Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Paul Feig (IN STUDIO) Suits Up & Ditches Stand Up For Directing

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

Dana and David welcome Paul Feig for a dapper deep-dive through comedy history. Paul and David relive their audition grind—including a Tales from the Crypt saga—before Paul breaks down why he traded stand-up for the director’s chair. He revisits one of his early gigs directing The Office, then shares stories from Bridesmaids and Ghostbusters. Plus he adds in some sharp SNL and comedy commentary. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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No purchase necessary VGW Group void war prohibited by law 21 plus TNCs apply. David, I have not seen you. I think the last time I officially saw you, we were both auditioning for Tales from the Cript. Shut. And I walked out of the audition, and David goes, well, Feege's here. Everybody else might as well go home.

Was Hulk Hogan and Mr. T. Doing an ad for something? Who knew they could go? The real guys? And they were doing the comedy of, you're like saying it over and over again. Yeah, exactly. You want to do this?

I mean, I tell you want it. You think it was going to be good? It's like, oh, dude, just, please. Oh, I did with a magician who had, who had dubs. Oh, you did? Yeah, oh, yeah. And they would just hear,

who, who, can they stay in your room? Okay, Dan, a big show. We've got Paul Feig. Now, Paul Feig, I don't know if it hits the ears, a household name, but you will know a lot of his movies. He's written or director.

Freaks and Geeks, he created. Right? That old show that got from Judd Apatow was involved in that to Seth Rogen to Linda Cardalini. There was a lot of big stars popped out of that. and also one of my all-time favorites bridesmaids he directed that we talk all about these things with him with paul and he did the housemaid that's when we talk about that's coming out uh the 19th of december right now so December 19th coming up i'm going to check that one out that's sidney sweeney uh and i think

that's more in the drama tip i think it's more of a i don't think it's a full-blown comedy but i like the idea we talk about that movie and the sensibility of it but yeah he was a real gentleman he dressed up you know i wore a tank top spade was shirtless but a half shirt uh and a dolphin shorts and a sailor hat and he had a nice suit on he's a real gentleman and uh it was really fun talking to him yeah uh also a simple favor he did that was with blake yeah he's done some great he's all over the place these movies that pretty much everyone has seen so i think you'll like the chat from his POV, so here's a writer, director, producer, Paul Feig. Paul Feig.

You know, I was watching Vertico last week, you know, and seeing San Francisco in the 50s, and Jimmy Stewart is just always in a suit and a lot of hats, but just suits. And then here I am at, and this is me dressed up, it took 10 seconds to put it on. It's a different time, it's a different time. But T-shirts are primarily what a grown men wear is just T-shirts and tennis shoes. That is true, especially in L.A. That's a very L.A. thing.

Yeah. But I always heard you're judged by how expensive your watch is and how good your shoes are. And everything else can just be tennis. Well, wait a minute. You had a good watch. I had a good watch. I'm not judging that way. No, we got a rush.

We can cut this part, but how much is on that left wrist? They're like, what is the price? Is that something that would attract somebody? I would be merciless. In a certain places, exactly. No, I have this watch dealer in Italy, believe it or not, who just sells it at cost because he's a Rolex dealer. So if you get in with one person, they'll, they have to sell the cost. They can't jack it up.

I have to say you are the best dress person we've had on the podcast. Oh my gosh, thank you. We've done 1,700. The least talented, but the best. Least talented. I saw your Wikipedia page when you're talking about it. I just saw the beginnings of it. That's right.

David, I have not seen you. I think the last time I officially saw you, we were both auditioning for Tales from the Cript. Shut the fuck up. And I walked out of the audition and David goes, well, Feege's here. Everybody else might as well go home. And then you got the part.

Oh, my God. Really? So have you held a torch for this a little bit? Oh, yeah, I've been waiting for this moment for a year. I don't like to resist to get back. Okay, now we know what's going on for the podcast. We don't know how to talk about the movies. Well, yeah.

You know, I did also a show called Monsters back in the day. Was that a cartoon? It was a, that was a movie, but I did a show, a scary show, and I had a doll killing me. Oh, I was the killer. Yeah. Well, the Tales on the Crip, you killed the Scotty Dog, I remember, because it was Julie Brown. Yes, I think I'm thinking the same thing. Yes, exactly.

That was probably the name of the episode. Yeah. Anyway, that didn't propel me as far as I thought it would at the time. What do you mean? Look at this place. But how funny that long ago. I know. I think we probably said hi.

various events but you're always so nice to me back oh good because when i was a stand-up when i see uh paul out first of all he looks dapper and i warn dana you better bring you dapper is it is a cool word it's the david nivini you know what the canon of dapperness should have a martini it's down to you and jbby's smooth at this point jbby i see he's got a hat oh i know look at his shit jbby with a hat he's hilarious he says a hat of the ammys which i'm sure everyone loves behind i did uh when we did ghostbusters i had jabby coming because i wanted to do kind of man on the street, things that we were going to put in the movie. J.B. I'm saying, I turn on the camera on the street. He talks for 45 minutes straight.

God damn. I will. I'm so unshooked. When did? It was hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The scene is a cutaway, J.B., and yeah, it's a montage. I know. He doesn't shy away from that. He's brilliant of Larry David to have him on. Yeah. Oh, I mean. Just that was just magic. The most brilliant character. Yeah. The editing should have won an award because they got to really tighten it up even on well they don't add it on that much right now when you wear this coat well well I mean there's a lot of held shots you don't even know well it's probably because when I did it oh a couple people remember when I did it we did it

I've told this before but we just were told different things we walked into a scene and then we argued and then we went back to one and they came up to me and said now be a little offended by what he says and then they go up to him and I go what's he doing they go you'll find out oh so it actually was kind of fun come back now it's kind of a different scene and the editing was in do you use one whole scene and tighten it or do you sort of use pieces but each one I had a for sure stance yeah and he didn't know it he's figuring we're both figuring out as we go or arguing but that was sort of very clever I think it's a brilliant way to do it's very good I think it's Gary Shanling was the first experience with that and I thought it was like magic yeah

Oh, no, totally. Three cameras at once. You'll say something like this or, you'll say something like that. And I'll do this and you'll do say something like that. It was like, I mean, I don't have to repeat these words all day long and finally get to the money shot? Well, that's when I was doing, I did a bunch of the offices. And it was kind of the same vibe on there. They were very, they were tightly scripted.

But then once you got to set, Greg Daniels was cool if you just kind of played. And so, like we did a Halloween episode once. And Greg allowed us to cut out a whole. storyline because we got on this whole tear with Dwight talking to Michael and Dwight was wearing the hood from the Star Wars, the Emperor, and he just got in this thing

where we got on an angle, it looked funny if he over enunciated the way that the guy in the movie does. And it just is back and forth, it was so funny that Greg was like, okay, we'll lose that other storyline because I just want to hang in the scene for long. That's really smart because I've worked in other shows where they just, you know, they're locked in keep any of that stuff. Do you find that as a director?

I do want to hear about your past because interesting how long you went before you really got under it with stand-up and acting and stuff um when someone is discovering it while the camera's rolling and you it's it's it pops even if they just change something or they literally add a new line yeah it's sort of a little bit of magic if it works right oh i'm so that's my joy place basically because i always try to cross-chute you know so that we're shooting both of both characters at same time so i mean bridesmaids that that opening scene with them in the coffee shop with just like five hours of it was scripted but then is like try this try that

imitate a penis do you know all this thing and out of that yeah these moments happen and be cross-shooting that you're on the other person so they're reacting in real time audiences pick up on that that's the magic of digital because I never did a movie when digital came in and so it was always

cutting you know always well my bridesmaids was on film still so we were stuck with those 12 minute loads okay something would just start to happen you're like oh no so that's why I gotta change the film on film and it It was 2011. Yeah.

Was that a concerted decision? Yeah, it was, the studios were still a little weird about digital. Yeah, in 2006, I did a movie called Undercompany Minders that no one ever saw. But my DP at the time was kind of, he was one of the four runners of doing HD stuff. So we were going to do it,

and the studio was really against it because they had just had a really bad experience on one of the current, the Superman movie they were making back then, where they shot on the Genesis system, and there was some line that went through it. They had to digitally fix the whole thing. But my guy was so adamant about doing it

that they ended up firing him. They made me fire the DP because they said, you have to shoot this on film. And it was terrible. That guy was halfway to Utah, where were we going to shoot the movie? And he had to turn his car run. It was awful.

And now, you know, industry standard. Yeah, sometimes if people watching don't know when you do movie, like you'll do coverage on someone, and then they have to recreate something and it's not the same reaction. It's just a real conversation. You can suck the air out of it. It's so easy. That's my nightmare.

It's like sometimes you just can't cross-shoot and somebody does something off-camera and you're like, oh, it's never going to be as good. Yeah. Could you do that thing again? It's never. You almost want to use just the off-camera voice. It was so perfect. Oh, totally. You're not even on them. You're like, that was just... I did a movie once where they... Dana's probably run into this

where when you're with comics, you probably run to, where you see the sneaky move I didn't pick up on where I did my coverage and they did theirs and I stuck to the script and when they flipped around they had lived for 20 minutes and I couldn't react because I wasn't on camera

you know totally and so I look dumb they're just scoring scoring and I'm just like this yeah I know exactly I've had that happen a couple times and I've actually taken the time

to turn the camera back around and say it was more because we discovered a bit sure we were on the other side and I was like you know then the crew gets all mad at you if it's fair it's fair and you go oh that's great

that's worth it we just did something and we said it's worth going back. That's exactly it. And they got old mad, but it's like, I don't have it. I don't have it. They get paid either way. Well, you'd be surprising how many directors do not at least intrinsically have your philosophy of trying to capture some kind of magic. And they torture you and they do a thousand takes and they're thinking of the edit and they're not trying to cut. So I was thinking one scene, there's so many in bridesmates, obviously. But when Kristen Wigg is kind of sneaking up in the front of the airplane, I mean, just the spontaneity of that.

and how it felt, and of course, her brilliance, but that must have been a thrill. That was, I mean, that was literally, that was the most fun day on that set because we just like, we do it, and I go, let's go again, and like, just, here comes Kristen, like, I don't know what she's going to do this time.

She doesn't know either, yeah. No, and it was hilarious. And, I mean, I just, I didn't want to wear her out. I think we did six or seven takes of that full scene just to get it, and then we were into coverage and we were playing around. And there's funny coverage, and then everybody, luckily everyone in it is good,

flight attendants are good. Yeah. Everyone's playing off it. and Maya playing it so flat is good because that's a choice too. She doesn't try to jump in and get some big laugh. She's like, you're getting laughs off her just staring. Yeah. But I mean, huge shout out to Mitch Silpa, who plays the, you know, stove, Steve, the flight attendant.

Yeah. Because he just played that like, you know, like an I Love Lucy, you know, or like a Jerry Lewis movie where all this stuff's happening. The guy just stares and acts completely angry. He's a straight man in that part. And also Rose, which I sort of discovered mostly on that. because she's such a knockout and then she was just really holding up and being funny and just everywhere you went was funny so obviously that was her coming out it mean she'd been on things but that was like yeah big comedy coming out because she had because she had just done get them to

the Greek and we were trying to figure out who to who to cast in that role we saw a lot of funny women for but it's just like I think we need like you know like a dramatic actress for that and Jed was like go down the editing room and take a look at her scenes from from get them to the Greek. And I was like, wow, there's something there, even though she's playing a completely different character. But, I mean, Rose is so talented. She's one of the most versatile comedy people I know, because she plays it so straight and she just becomes the character and doesn't look for jokes. She just is naturally kind of, her reactions are funny and playing well against fun.

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And he goes, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Oh, no, totally. We don't do that. That's this other line that's crossed. And why? Do you look at comedies, other movies, of your peers, or whatever, you don't have to bury anybody. But can you kind of intuit what's going wrong?

Because great comedies are rare. Well, it's the reason why comedy doesn't win awards. It's the reason why Steve Carell never won an Emmy for the office. That's crazy. Because if you're good, it can look effortless. It's easy. He's not trying, yeah. Yeah, and we all know there's nothing worse than sweaty comedy.

You know, when you see it all the time, and somebody just like, working so hard. Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, that's especially, bless them, like day players who come in, you know, and you hire, and they're so funny in the audition. Yeah. All I'm ever doing is like, take it down. Take it down.

And I get it. This is your one moment to shine and here you come, you know. Even as an L host, their publicist warn us at a time, they're so funny. And they can't wait to show you the funniness. We're like, God, just stand there. We'll just steer you around. There's been more. No better place I've seen people eat it than on SNL, like the guest host.

Yeah. When you just see, oh, my God. I remember there was the, oh, the sweatiest one I ever saw on there was from way back. It was Hulk Hogan and Mr. T doing an ad for something. Who knew they could go? The real guys. And they were doing the comedy of, you're like saying it over and over again. Yeah, exactly.

You want to do this? I mean, I tell you one, you think it was going to be good. It's like, oh, dudes, just please. It would be so much funnier, Mr. T was like, actually pity the fool that doesn't, you know. See, right there. I do so pity these fools. So can we just for a second, I mean, because for our audience and stuff, just a little bit of your biography. Sure.

Because there was an interesting thing, I guess, and I don't know, seeing a Woody Allen movie kind of blew your mind. I mean, for me, it was the party with Peter Sellers or other ones. So you had this as a young person, and then you went into performing mostly, right? You were dreamers to be on SNL, maybe? Oh, yeah, 100%. Okay. Yeah, and I actually signed with an interesting thing that happened where because I was a stand. Yeah, I started in Michigan and I was a kid in doing theater and there you go.

Bloomfield Hills. Wait, are you from Michigan? Yeah. How did I never know this? I just found it because it says Royal Oak and I think that might be in the vicinity of Bloomfield. Yeah, it is. It is totally. And I was like, this motherfucker never ever.

And go lions. I want to look up when I make the top 100 people from me. Michigan. I should have scanned the law orders. And then I claim if I'm from Arizona too, so I really get... Oh, there's. I try to get in that contest. You're a man of the world. Yeah. Me and Hugh Adams. There you go.

Nice. The big hitters. Yeah, so I wanted to be, you know, an actor. That was my goal. I wanted to be Steve Martin. I wanted to be... As a little kid. As a little kid. Oh, yeah. Like five years old. I just got I got laughs in front of a school play and was like... Addicted.

Yeah. And so I started doing stand-up when I was 15 years old in Detroit. It was terrible, obviously. Was there a big scene? Why was it terrible? Yeah, because I was terrible. We were all terrible. I know.

I was doing like Johnny Carson jokes and stuff like that. I did not know that. There we go. Thank you. It gave me an opening. There you go. I apologize. People were pressing the podcast.

Sure subject. No, it was big because the show, make me laugh was big. Howie Mandel. Yeah. I remember Bruce Baum. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike Binder, and Mike Binder was a Detroit guy. And so all these comedy clubs sprung up because of Make Me Laugh.

All these open mic nights. You know, what was that, Baby Man Bomb? Yeah, yeah. Baby Man, man. Yeah, and he put the thing up, and then he's in the club, and then he takes off zero-difference. I love the assortment pack of the weird, eccentric, you know, how comedians were so different. In those days, not everybody had his elbow on the mic saying he masturbated in front of his cats. I'm a jazz cane or Danny Johnson

Like every time I got an opening or an emce different Watching these guys And we always say they would Rarely change their act That was a new, that was the old way Oh no, it was like vaudeville You travel with that fucking thing I think Danny Johnson got it

Folklore says he got this great 20 minutes It killed every time In like one night, almost a fever dream And then just kept it for 40 years Yeah But that was that whole vaudeville thing Remember that like movies killed vaudeville because a guy had an act for, you know, 20 years,

and they put it on film. Okay, what else he got? So what was in stand-up, your best bit? My best bit. You must have a bit that worked. I did. I had two killer bits. Okay.

Killer bits. One was Willard Schmidt, the Woodshop teacher. So I had these glasses, and I would, and he's a stand-up comedian. Okay, that's funny. So I was kind of like very energetic comedians, but then I would do that. He's just completely flat, you know,

and all his jokes are about, like, you know, I had a kid in class, and I told him to stop fooling around. He continued to fool around, and they got his arm cut off. Then I go and tell a joke about something, and then I go back to another horrible story about something. Very flat. So it would kill. It would just kill.

So the teacher actually cut the arm off? Was that the idea? No, no, because the kid was fooling around. He didn't listen to the teacher. Oh, I see. So he got an accident. Exactly. Yeah.

And then my other bit was, my closeer was the Thirst and Howl Blues, which had my harmonica, and I would do this, oh, yeah. I can't even recall. From Gilligan's Island. From Gilligan's Island. Yes, exactly. And then the killer line, I don't know if I can get it right, but it's like... No pressure.

Now, that professor, he's really quite daft. He can make a coconut lie detector, but he can't build a goddamn raft. Yeah, yeah. And that would kill, so there you go. It's very true, though. Thank you. But this was back in the 80s. I can't believe it.

Let me tell you, my closer. Yeah, let's hear it. This killed. This killed every time. This fucking Dana. destruction it's sort of like as an extra beat one of my this has a boom boom at the end watch this watch this paul okay here we go so i said i talk about skin to max uh and i talk about all these shows i watch late at night all these all rated shows and i said HBO is a new show called new back

in autopsy we go into a corner's office and film a live autopsy let me tell you something HBO I can't whack off to autopsy or can I Bam Yep Wack off Wack off Music up Good night

People fly out of the chair That was a tough one I had them I had him a red light I have a Gilligan's Island joke That I did on S&L So we're doing

Jerry Seinfeld And my line was Okay It was like a game show Right And it was like If the professor They can make a radio

Out of a conganat Why can't he fix the boat There you go See Hi Campbell believe it. I like when someone goes, I saw Gilligan's Island, it was the one where Mrs. Howell didn't know what to wear to the rescue. Oh yes. Which was every episode. Oh, what should I wear to the rescue?

Love it. I got lauded. Funny, I got lauded back there because this was 85 when I was doing this. Yeah. And everybody was still doing hilariously, this sounds so old, jokes about the 60s. And so all these comedians come up and go like, you're the, you're the first guy who's made fun of the 70s. So I was, there you go. Oh, I was. Oh, I was. I was my peak in 1985. I know. I used to do Carrie Grant.

I do Jimmy Stewart. You know, all those were good. You do the hair back? You do Jack? Oh, yeah. No, I didn't do the hair back, but I did Jack. Leave a message. You know, whatever.

See, there you go. And it kills. You know, it kills. But yeah, now I'm, I don't do Carrie Grant anymore. Oh, I'd love to. When we work the retirement home. But I have a new bit now that I'm doing that I'm when I'm talking to Comcast and there's someone who doesn't know, I just use Carrie.

I use Kerry Grant's voice. I turned it out and all, but they still have no reception. And they don't respond or say, are you? Like, who are you? I can't believe it. I got to watch a big game. So anyway, so back to you. You are a stand-up, you're killing, and then you're directing hip movies.

What's this timeline and what happened? I was full-time stand-up from 85 to 90. Okay. I did, I got on a thing called the Paramount Comedy Theater, which was the first home video videotape like comedians special. I don't know if I remember it. Huh, I don't.

No, but it was only in video stores. Was it kind of like the HBO? Oh, it was only on the host. Howie was the host. And we shot it down at the Hermosa Beach, you know, the comedy magic club. And when Jimmy Miller used to manage it. Jimmy Miller, the Jimmy Miller.

Hey, fake, no one makes popcorn like my little brother. It's Dennis's brother, everybody. And he's exactly the same. accent but so i so i i did it and then so the guy that produced it i i went did my act it killed went great and it was really successful my first success is that the stand-up i had lunch with the producer a few weeks afterwards and he said you know they did not want you on this show like howie's managers hated your act from your tape so much they threatened to pull how we off of the special if you did it and he this guy

was kind of a fighter so he just fought to get me on there and the hilarious thing was after I my set killed his managers wanted to sign me they signed me and I this all comes back to when you said SNL because I said they said what do you want I said my dream in life is to be a regular in SNL they're like we can make that happen done first of all anything you should always run for the hills yeah of course and yeah then of course it never happened they sent my tape to Lauren he's like I don't sure what year what year they sent the tape this 86 that's when I got the show. Oh. I knew it. And I remember, would you take

a look at Paul Figgs tape dating or see if you think anything's there? No, I don't see it. Any glimmers? I didn't see it. I didn't see it. I didn't see your tape. I probably would have said, that man's going to make a hit movies. I don't know. It's very interesting how many people were stand-ups and ended up movie actors

or impressionists, Anthony Hopkins, just a fair impressionist. When I was coming up, all became writers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the That's the smoothest transition. Well, because they would have, like, killer jokes, but they didn't necessarily have, like, the greatest stage presence. Or you get tired of the grind of traveling. That's what I, that's what drove me out,

because, you know, my whole, those five years was, like, working towards becoming a headliner. The minute I became a headliner, I didn't like it. Yeah. Because it was lonely. Being a headliner is lonely. Like, when you're the middle or the opener, you know, the guys are back, you come off stage.

Everybody's like, yeah, that was so great. When you're the headline, you come off, everybody's gone to dinner. And you're like, nobody's here. I know a guy, Larry Bubbles Brown, from San Francisco. got to a level in San Francisco, he's headlining. He's great. He said, nope.

After about a couple times, said, no, it's the pressure, the end, just stayed a middle. I get it. And the road? I hated the road, too. Did you play Spellbinders in Houston? What are the places?

I was mostly Westco. So it was all up and down the West Coast. The Bay Area, I could stay in the Bay Area pretty much, you know, and not have, just drive to Santa Cruz, Cobbs, punchline. God, it's funny. we must almost cross past.

I know, it's crazy. No, it was the comedy condo that drove me out of the business. Oh, staying with the, okay, give us a comedy condo store. For people who don't know. No, they would buy this condo and have three bedrooms. Three bedrooms. One was the shitty one for the opener. One was the slightly less shitty one.

Yes. And then the beautiful one for the headline. The master bedroom or, yeah, the primary bedroom. You live with three people. And like one week, it's the greatest thing ever. Everybody's great. The next week, you're stuck. with some fucking guy who is the wars and they're all like trying to bring cocktail waitresses home

yeah and i'm just like i want out of this scene i don't want it yeah you're saying sex happened in the comedian's condo believe it or not for certain guys there were certain guys that were just total did you ever have share a condo with a ventriloquist i wish i did oh i did with a magician who had who had doves oh you did yeah oh yeah and they would just hear can they stay in your room no this was a twilight zone he really believed that chubes Chuck, Chuck Wood was real. And he said, don't look at Chuck. Don't bother Chuck. Don't touch Chuck.

Wow. In that rider in his contract, you can get to get contact with Chuck. Do you remember Emo? I stayed with Emo. Emo Phillips. And he was like, you know I was going to breakfast early? I go, oh, we're doing this off camera? I was I was going to say, like in real life, he was like, yeah, so anyway, dude.

But he was very nice. He would put, but he put all his joke cards out on fire. I think Dennis does this, writes him all out. And I was like, am I supposed to do this? like it was so organized and then he like Dennis they memorize him and I'm like no fucking chance even back in the early days with Dennis he'd do that

I know he has fought you've seen him with the cards right I don't know the other day we were talking about Lucy K and I just just about great stand-ups and I just thought Dennis it's Dennis's best special yeah he's put it up there he's very up there but so you're so how do you

so what happens next your stand-up is not you you tire the road tire the road so I go into acting and did that for like 15 years. It was like a regular on five different TV series. It would be like the fifth or six lead, you know, on dirty dancing, the TV

series was my first big one. I was a character that was added on, who was not in the movie. Norman, the bellhop, who wanted to be a stand-up comedian. So there you go. Yeah, exactly. That was, like, remember when they used to do the cartoons of like, you know, the Brady Bunch or the Partridge family?

And they'd add, like, a magical bird. Like, I was the magical bird on the show, basically. or the dancing pandas You kind of do have a timeless look Like I could see you On the Beverly Hillbillies as the banker Or you know what I mean You could play a lot of parts

Yeah I would I mean That's all the parts I used to get But yeah But yeah I was on the Tom Arnold You know Oh wait Jackie Tom show What Tom Arnold did you get? I got good Tom Arnold

Was he good time? Yeah I'm friends of Tom And I know he had some rough times there No Tom was great But they were still he and Roseanne But it lasted two or three seasons No only one season

that they, it's the first show, I think in history to get canceled in the top 20. Oh, wow. Because they kind of pulled the plug because they wanted to go over to do this Thomas and, I forget those producers, but they were CBS. And so they pulled them over there. I think we were ABC. Oh, with Thomas maybe? No, it was Thomason. They worked with the Clintons a lot, I remember.

Anyway, look it up, everybody. Did not know that. Well, impression number two. Well done. There you go. Was Farley on, did Jackie Thompson? Yeah, we did. He did that one episode.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And we finished the episode, I don't know if I should say there's not. We finished the episode, and the minute we were done, Tom and Roseanne had him taken away to rehab. Oh, got that episode out of him, though. Yeah, but he was the loveliest guy. I loved, I mean. Brilliant, sweet. The sweetest guy.

Last time I saw him. One of the kind. Joel Madison and I went to the Rose Bowl, and he was there with his mom. And he's like, hey, Paul. He was just the sweetest guy. Yeah, his very, very Midwestern. I mean, salt of the earth and probably the funniest person. Well, we haven't seen another.

No, I mean, not like that. It's been a while now. Exactly. Where's Chris Farley, the new Chris Farley? I'll just look for, you know, clips online. By the way, anybody over 180 is in danger of being, are you the next Chris Farley? You're a little heavy.

You have manic energy. We were just saying this morning. He's not, he wasn't that big during some earlier, movies it was really toward the end like i was so skinny and i was probably 135 in the movie so he looked big but i'll show you something on the way out but uh yeah where it's like oh he wasn't i think he gained almost 100 pounds right at the very at some point but you know jackie gleason was sort of heavy he'd go no way we go and he would move gracefully but chris was still an athlete as a as a big guy but all those guys they're like sumo wrestlers like uh you know belushi who wasn't

Lushie was his hero. Yeah. Lushu's even, I think, skinnier, and he was known as a faggot. He was just a little roly-pulling. Well, it's like, you know, Zach's, all Zach's on his show. He's always, I'm not fat. He's like, like, just like a normal-looking guy. You're either fat or not fatt or so he's kind of a fat guy.

He always has to make fat jokes about him. And then he's like, I'm not that guy. Yeah, he's like, you have a beard. It's not that. Yeah, I like when he's on his show and everyone shits on him. Did you all this time, because I, we know where your story's going. Were you a big, big movie fan? A lot of comedians.

I would, whenever I could, just go watch a matinee in a theater on the day of a show. So you had this lane of being a huge... Oh, yeah. That's all I wanted to do is do movies. Oh, the whole time. Yeah, yeah. I just, you know, my goal was to be back then Woody Allen. I was going to write direct and star on all my movies.

That was the goal. I did it once, the very first movie ever made, which has never been released, called Life Sold Separately. And I wrote, directed, and starred in it. And it was myself. And Penn Gillette was in it, actually. Oh, really? And then some friends of mine, Steve Bannis and Dave Gruber Allen, who, you know, who are all actors now and Carrie. Was it the sensibility of Woody?

Obviously, you're not doing a Woody impression, but it was just his whole. It was, no, it was about, I had, I only had like $30,000 to make it. So I had to, like, make it all in one field during the day on one day. So it was about four people who get some. Yeah, totally. Oh, yeah. You're like you save on wardrobe, save on lighting, exactly. It was four people who all get a message in their head

that a UFO is going to come to this one place and pick them up and take them away from their lives because they're all unhappy with their lives. I like that. Yeah, it's kind of cool. And so everybody shows up and they don't know why each other's there and they find out they have this common thing and it all kind of turns.

Then you go into writing. How do you get writing jobs? I never actually got a writing job. Oh, you're on Freaks and Geeks. I created it. Yeah, I created the show and then I co-rayed it. Oh, because Judd swore to me that you had nothing to work in. I knew it, oh, man.

Judd had me up this morning. I haven't heard you want. Well, just make sure you bring some Greeks and Breaks. Hey, yeah, I'm not Judd-Apter. I don't have a Jedd-Aptoe, but that's a substitute of pressure. Hey, I think friction greeks is mine. It's kind of like Judd. That's not just like him, exactly.

I thought he was sitting here. It's a book mark. Exactly. Hi, Jed, if you're watching. But, yeah, you, that was your creation. Yeah. And you shepherded it, and it's kind of has the cold following now, Or it's become a thing.

Which is nice. I mean, it's kind of stood the test of time, which you always hope. That's sort of. So you were in on casting, a lot of people that blew up? Yeah, yeah. That was all. Well, who was on there? Just for the people?

Just for the people. Seth Rogen, who discovered it's 16 years old in Vancouver. God, that guy struggled for a long time. I know, poor guy. He's Linda Cardalini, Jason Siegel, James Franco, Busy Phillips. Wow. Sam Levine. And, of course, John Francis Daly, who is now,

a big-time director, writer-director. I know. So they all have succeeded. All blew up, yeah. Yeah. So when, since we, this isn't a two-parter I want, it's like, when did you start, the first movie you directed for a studio or when you made this?

For a studio, it was the thing called unaccompanied minors, I think I referenced earlier. Yes. They fired my DP for wanting to shoot HD. Oh, okay. Yeah, I got that. Well, no, no, I'm sorry, no, it was a movie called I Am David that I did right after freaks and geeks

it was like a drama and that was the moment when I'm like oh I'm this will be my Oscar movie and I learned a valuable lesson like don't ever try to make movies first to win an Oscar well what are you learning at this point what are the basic things you do freaks and geeks and you're directing there and then you're going here

we know where you go or you become this great comedy director so you're learning stuff all along right well I start then I go heavily into TV directing because I directed I wanted to direct on freaks and geeks and they wouldn't let me because I didn't have enough experience or whatever. Finally, they'd let me do the very last episode that I wrote and directed,

and it came out really well. So then they go, oh, he knows how to do it. He actually knows what he's doing, and believe it or not. But then our line producer from Freaks and Geeks went on to do Arrested Development, and so he called me up and said, hey, they'd like you to do an arrest of development. So I ended up doing like six arrested developments. Which is probably, no, it's not harder. That's still, it's not a sitcom.

No. Did you ever do a sitcom? No, no, not three camera, no. Yeah, it's way harder what you're doing. Yeah, well, I don't know. It's closer to movies. Yeah. But the three cameras seems hard to me, you know?

Three camera, yeah, just a different muscle probably. You're definitely relying. Yeah, you got that audience right there. Yeah, I like having something happen, like getting it right once and never doing it again. That's why I love movies and single camera stuff, you know, because you just get magic ones. Yeah, yeah. When you get it right in a comedy, it's so hard. Yeah.

From the idea and the pitch to the script doesn't get right. And you've got to get that right. Then you've got the editing and the casting and then finishing it and the product. You know, then the marketing and the poster. And then the biggest problem is that everybody's got, everyone can agree what's dramatic, what's sad, what's scary, what's thrilling. Nobody can really agree on what's funny. So comedies are so divisive because some people love them and some people hate them. and trailers are really, you know, like lightning rods.

I mean, we put the trailer out for bridesmaids. People are enraged and angry and like, oh, really? Either like, oh, clearly all the best jokes are in the trailer, and then they were mad that they thought they knew that we were going to be making fun of Melissa McCarthy's character. It was like, no, she's actually the coolest character

and the little thing. But people, there's a hostility, I find, because I think maybe it was that people who've gotten burned by a lot of comedies over the years, you know, and so they came in, afraid to go into the theater. Not by yours, my friend. You've been some of the greatest comedies all the time.

Thank you. It's true. But, you know, but there's, it's just, yeah, there's a weird thing. And that's, like now there's not a lot of comedies, straight up comedy. Yeah, what, what's your thoughts on that? Where are they?

I think, I think comedy, straight comedy feels too frivolous for audiences for them in the last 10 years. You know what I mean? They want higher stakes. And I think, you know, it's the difference between, like, a movie that's about, like, or spies or cops, but, like, the villain is, like, bumbling. And so it's like, oh, so it's all comedy. So there's no stakes there versus I always go back to that movie 48 hours, which, you know,

oh, Eddie Murphy, this is going to be hilarious. First thing, there's, like, a guy gets, like, executed in a hallway. You're like, oh, shit. Walter Hill. But then it, yeah, but then you're like, oh, cool. So now when Eddie Murphy goes into that cowboy bar, I'm kind of worried he's going to get shot or something bad's going to happen.

It's not just a goofy comedy. Yeah, people need to stake. So that's why now so much comedy is in the form of horror movies. I mean, do you see weapons? I saw it twice. It's hilarious. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, it becomes hilarious. And Megan and those things, you know, so. Is weapons too scary for me? No, no, no, it's not. Is Megan too scary for me? No, no. You'll be okay. I would tell you, I would take it

I saw some blurb on you that I would love when I watched Megan I watched it like mystery science I just talked the whole time and was making myself laugh and I'm like why can't Dana and I just do this

where you just watch something and there's so many funny things to say yeah and Megan was funny in that way but I see why it worked also yeah well because you're still you know you're invested yeah it's I used to get really mad

at this film like it's doing exacts when they could use the word stakes yeah because I always felt like did they know what that means or not but now do they even know what it means sometimes people just repeat words i know exactly but you realize like it just audiences have to feel that there's the invested and you know like worried naked gun the the new one that came out hilarious watched it yeah it was but it was that there was no stakes it's

old school yeah it's old school so you really have to it's very tricky well i was really rooting for that too and i think it did pretty well yeah it did pretty well but because that kind of breaks the mold of what i'm saying but look comedy you know we say this this is how it is, then something comes out and it changes everything. So, you know, the biggest thing in comedy, and we all know this, is if you're inflexible in comedy, you're dead.

You know, if you're like, I know what's funny and don't tell me what's funny. If you don't evolve along with the scene, you know, keep your voice, but just, you know, don't be making dad jokes. The ones that stick out to me are Tropic Thunder, hangover, some of Will Ferrell movies.

Yeah, they just hold up. And then they sort of, it sort of changed, or it stopped. I don't know if it's political records or whatever the studios want or the audience wants. I just think it's what the audience want. Audiences are very fickle.

Yeah, exactly. Because we've done a lot of research in my company of this, you know, about like, why do sequels a lot of times not work anymore? Right. You know, because used to be like a sequel good question to ask.

Yeah, exactly. Because you think all people just show up. But the big question audience are asking now because they've got so much stuff available to them is why? Why do I need to see this? I really like the first one. Why do I need to see what's going to be different about this?

Am I just going to see the same thing again? And it's a valid question. You know, everything's expensive. There's something about discovering a movie too. Yeah. And you just don't discover it in the sequel. You found all your answers, kind of. Yeah.

And that's why sequels are so hard to do because you've established, you're not discovery. Yeah, the discovery isn't, everybody thinks they want bridesmaids too. And I'm like, yeah, it could be funny. But the reason bridemates works is, because Kristen Wigg, you meet this person who's just a complete disaster and she has to build herself back up and by the end she doesn't show happy.

So you don't want to go like. Was she a disaster again? Yeah, it's like where do you start? Yeah, right. Oh, she's messed up again. I don't want to watch this. We talked about that. There's one we did called The Wrong Missy on Netflix

and we wind up getting married that the girl's crazy and she's very funny. She's the whole movie. Like she goes bananas. But how do you do it where she kind of got her shit together and then there's different pictures? but you go, God, that's a tough one, because you almost want to leave it alone,

but there's such a feel for like, well, maybe do one with your studios. They pay you more, it makes less, so. I know. Oh, yeah, pay me more, that's the answer. You know, you've worked with a, this sounds like some social statement, you've presented a lot of women into comic films.

You know, bridesmaids, obviously. And then you love Melissa McCarthy, as we all do. So when you directed her in bridesmaids, and then you guys connected again. I would just speak to that. I mean, did you just sort of, we know her. I mean, she's so charming and whatever, but did you see lightning or biology

because there's more here? Yeah, well, we just hit it off. I mean, after, because, yeah, we did bridesmaids and we did the heat, then spy and then Ghostbusters. Yeah, so. No controversy in Ghostbusters, by way. Well, yeah, I was out of town. Did people talk about it?

Exactly, I loved the first one. No, well, you know, like with Farley and, you know, and people you've worked with, Like, if you're in sync with somebody comedically, that's like gold because it's so hard to find that, you know, where it's across the board you agree. She's a score. Well, I think for the performer from that side of the fence, if you have a director like you who's affable who gets them, who's smart, and wants to capture them, is not resentful of them or competitive with them. I mean, there's a lot of types of directors out there. And so that obviously just, you capture her.

Yeah, well, I mean, that's my, I always say, my biggest job on the set is to create a safe environment. everybody feels they can try anything because I used to, when I was an actor I'd get yelled at by certain directors like, what are you doing stop that? Oh yeah. I'd clinch up. Humiliated. Can I try something? Yeah. And then I try something and goes that's what you wanted.

Oh, no, no, yeah, really, that was terrible. Those are quotes, so that's what you wanted to do. This is in front of the whole crew. So why would you sabotage the person in the movie? It's so awful. I mean, I love my fellow GGA and yet sometimes I just go, you guys, come on. Well, sometimes there's

speeding it up they want to keep moving and also if you just go at the end can i try one but if it's someone like you and you're like excited to see it like hey if we can make it better and then like you said you stumble into something else that works that's the fun i think she can do that and i think she trusts you because i saw the heat and i was a sanderbillick yeah great and uh and then after that was spy spy and rose again yeah yeah yeah physical comedy always a verbal nonverbal comedy with Melissa is always great. She does that. She does, I mean...

Well, she'll surprise you with jokes and, like, you know, sometimes she'll be in the middle of, like, a really mean thing, and she'll, I can't say that. I'm like, Melissa, finish it. It's going to be the funniest thing you say all day. Yeah, at least for the outtakes, give us something. Yeah, totally. Because some of those movies, she goes off.

And then she can be very, you feel for. Yeah, well, that's the thing. And that's, you know, I... You know, because when we did the heat, there was a lot of, not backlash, but I heard, like, certain, like, entertainment reporters, like, well, she only does one thing. She's always just mean all the time.

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And then she was in a simple favor, or was that Blake Lively? No, I was Blake Lively. Okay. Yeah, I know they're always up to the same place. What's going on with Blake Lively right now? She's a great actor. She's fantastic. Are you going to jail?

I know, exactly. I have no idea what's going on. I know. I don't either. I'm team Blake. I'm definitely. Do you have any final, because we'll put it to rest here, do you have any final thing to say about Ghostbusters?

I'm glad I made it. I'm very proud of it. Okay. The people that had a problem with it, I'm sorry. Younger people really like it. It was a lot of mostly older guys who saw them when they were kids and they got really mad that I would touch it. It was with me going that I'm exactly your demo. Old cranky.

I should be an ex-cranky. I judge everything. I don't like anything to change. Why? That's not him. Wait a minute. I don't even like Dan Aykroy being older now. I'm like, I want him the way I saw him.

And so when I see that, I go, I literally go and I go, I got to be fair about this. I love Ghostbusters, but I think these girls are funny. So what do we do? So I go in and I go, it is funny. Now, that's just one opinion, but I paid. I went and saw it, too. I thought it was great. You go, well, those four people are just, it's different.

There's different jokes. It's not, it's not exact frame-by-frame recreation. No, because you didn't want to do that. But it was just, you know, it was, I thought it would be fun. What I didn't realize. It wasn't going to be fun. Yeah, I know. It was one of the worst experience of my life.

Not making it was fantastic, but all this shit around it. I mean, Donald Trump came out against us. Oh, there's a video. What are you doing? There's a video of him going, uh... We don't like it. We wanted Dan Ayquois. We got to have the other guys.

The ladies can do their movies. The men do their movies. Well, here's the exact vote. You can find it online. It's on tape. Oh, really? Well, it's on video. He goes, and now the Ghostbusters are women.

What's going on? It's the end of the world as we know it. It's not good. And let me tell you, I've seen it many times. There's ghosts and they're busting them. I know what they do, and they need Dan Aykroyd. They've got to have Eckroyd. I don't know.

So let's talk about your current movie, which I like these kind of movies. I saw the teaser trailer, but I thought it was kind of brilliant because it's just a, you know. And so it's called Housemade. The Housemade, yeah. With someone who I think is sort of out there now a lot. I think she's got a future, yeah, Sydney Sweeney. Oh, Sidney, you know. She's, you know.

And Amanda. Saffreed. And so tell us about this movie that's coming out in December. Yes. I am very excited about it. It's more of a straight-up thriller. but it's still in my own inimitable way. It's going to be funny at times.

It gets nutty, yeah. It gets, you know, in the weapons, you kind of way. It gets, but it's based on a bestselling book that's been on the bestseller list for a year and a half called The House Made by Freedom McBadden. And Brandon Sclanar is also in it, who's fantastic. And Michaela Moroni, who was in another simple favor movie that I did last. And it's just, it's a really fun, twisty thriller. You think you know where it's going and you completely don't know where it's going and then it twists again. I love it.

Yeah, I love thrillers. That's kind of all I watch. Well, it's good for Sidney's Sweetie, too. You know what? Yeah. She's great. Huge stars. I really like thrillers.

Yeah. You know what it is? I find I don't watch much comedy because I don't watch it at all. I know how the rabbit gets out of the hat. Yeah. It has to be something really different. Yeah, no, totally. Oh, I did just watch Friendship the other night, and that really made me laugh.

How was that? In seriousness? Yeah. You know, Tim is just so. If you like Tim. Oh, those two guys. If you love Tim, you'll love this movie. Sure.

There's some of the funny. There's a couple of sequences that are so funny. He's got some of the best clips. Yeah. You know, like everything is clips now, but it's a way to introduce you. It's like a little nugget. And then if I see it enough, it starts showing up. And I'm like, obviously I'm watching it because it keeps telling me, oh, you like this.

Yeah, no, totally. You're going to look at it again and then keep surprising me. It's very hard. Yeah, no, it's true. So I don't watch like it. But, yeah, thrillers and crime shows and all that. I love all that stuff. Yeah.

I watch them with my wife. And, you know, they're just fun. I do like true crime, too. Did you say it the housemaid, is it called? The housemaid, yeah. And did you say a little bit of what it was about or you don't want to say it? Oh, you know, I like to say, yeah, I guess I should do the plug. Yeah, it's about this young woman who's kind of living out of her car, a little down on her luck,

who goes and gets an interview to be a housemaid in this rich family's house and gets the job. And the woman who hires her seems like the greatest boss ever. And then things start to turn and get weird. I'm in. Thanks. It's all I need. Excellent. Living in car.

You're going to love it. Exactly. And it's a sexy thriller, too, I'll say that. It's kind of nice. I mean, I just want to... Everything for Eden was like, these two girls are going to hook up. I'm like, Eden was just like, I thought it was literally two girls hooking up. That was the pitch.

It was like, watch the series. It was kind of a soft core porn movie done by Ron Howard. This is taking you back to your skin of X days? It was. And I was like, oh, there's other people. Wait, there's some. sand? Actually, how do you, that sounded like an interesting movie because it was weird.

Like, I go, oh. Well, it was a true story, you know. How do you fight this idea that we all know it? I was in and out. Oh, Eden was a true story. No, I did like it. And Jude Laud. Good was in it. Jude, no, I love Jude. So when will it be on my machine? Eden. Well, it's going to be in

theaters. Believe it or not, I'm back. Oh, I'm sorry, Eden. Oh, yeah, I switched over here. We know about Housemate. Oh, no. Oh, sorry, let's go back. Because the Housemate opens December 19. And I mean, that is sort of the thing. It's in theaters. Yeah. And then you have to want, compel people to the theater thinking that, well, it'll be on Amazon Prime in a month.

So is there a strategy about that? It'll be on the machine soon. And is it always, always, I guess it's always on something else later. Yeah. It used to be DVD, used to VHS. But now, like F1 I saw, then it goes, it's going to be on Apple. I'm like, oh, I didn't want to wait. But, you know, it's like, oh, okay, but there's a window.

It's shorter. It's longer. I love the big screen is good. I'll tell you this, what I've discovered. This is because of this connectivity. Yes. It's either church or a movie theater. Turn it off for two hours.

It goes pitch dark. This sounds really great. You're in a stadium. There's almost no one there. It's fantastic. I mean, the world just quiets down. It's a way bigger deal than it was to me in the 90s. Now it's like, I'm going to turn it off.

Well, at home when I watch a movie, I look at my phone. And when I go to the theater, you're also disturbed. serving people. So it's one more reason to go, just fucking for a little bit. Even though you get itchy, you go. Oh, no, totally. Or like when you hear it like buzz, you know, you're like, wonder what it was. It's that. Let me ask you a question

about the summer blockbusters and which one that you might have enjoyed the most. I was in my own head because I did see all three in the theater because Jurassic Park. Right. Are they Superman? Mission Impossible. Superman. Those three Yes. All did really well and got a lot of people

in the theater, which is great for the movie industry yes do you have a favorite you're gonna love this you don't have to say i didn't see anything what i didn't see fantastic four no i'm i'm i hate to say i'm not a superhero guy okay what's your favorite movie in the last few years what's the movie that's really float floated your boat besides dunkirk yeah i'm just throwing stuff out there you go exactly once upon a time in hollywood uh that was i enjoyed that very much i really like that i i mean i have to say i think well there's a movie called abigail that i loved It was this vampire movie, but that's a straight-up comedy.

Because it's so bananas. You've got to watch it. That's on the machine. No, exactly. Yeah, that's on the machine. You can definitely get on the machine. I've heard of that. Megan, I thought Megan was great.

Okay. The first Megan, I didn't see the second one yet. Yeah, I mean. I got you. Is Allison Williams and Megan? Yes. She's the mom? Yeah, she's the, yeah.

It starts like a tragic beginning, right? Oh, no, totally. Well, it's actually a really funny beginning because it starts with the ad for the dolls, for this other dolls they're trying to sell. I got to see that. As I go like, Okay, it's so smart. They mix it.

You got to set the tone right at the beginning of a movie. Yeah, you said open, did you say that open movie? You got to get something right away. It's almost like a TikTok. We just got to let people know how to watch the movie. Right. Oh, okay. Horror films are the highest money makers per budget.

At the moment, at the moment. I was just curious, just before we let you go, it's just like what movies do you love, just off the top of your hair. You don't have to say your favorite. Oh, just of all time. You go way back. Of all time. I mean, my favorite movie of all the movie of all,

time it's it's a wonderful life and not that I think it's the greatest movie ever made but I think it accomplishes everything a movie is supposed to accomplish it makes you cry it makes you happy it makes you sad it takes you through dramatic things and it's uplifting at the end so I always love that one I concur I literally it's a thing my wife just laughs because if I talk about that movie with people and I just and I don't know if it gets me now but it's like a trigger you get emotional when the people come to the end and they say we heard no it's I'm feeling it we heard George but sorry yeah Bailey was in trouble I don't know why that gets me every time it's fantastic and you know the the backstory on that movie is it literally bankrupted

the studio that's really created it yeah it was uh Capra and some other guys started the studio Liberty Studios I think it was called to and and it was so poorly received and so destroyed by the critics crap Capricorn yes capricorn exactly cornball but it was only because when you know TV came around and they it was something that they could put on for free or for like no money so they just started playing it over and over again at Christmas time that's how it became this big way oh boy I kind of

like those stories I like those stories too because when the critics shit all over your movies maybe there's a second chance so what else is on your list off top of your head uh Dr. Strange Love one of my favorites of all time bringing up baby one of my favorite movies of all time that was with Hepburn

yeah and no and you're the the guy that nobody knows the, that you do anymore. Carrie Grant. Yeah, Carrie Grant, right. In one of his funniest roles ever. He plays a nerd, and it's hilarious.

Well, I like to bring a baby. It's something about the baby that I just love. It's a fun voice to do. It's the weirdest voice in film. Yeah, totally. It's fantastic. Do you like 2001 in Space Odyssey? I do.

I love that. You like that? I love that movie. It's so funny. When I was in film school, I had a friend and he was like, oh, man, if they made that movie today, the sound would be so much better. And I go, no, the reason that movie is great,

is because there's no sound. Like, where they're in space, it's just silent. Yeah. And it's so creepy. You know, when that guy's trying to get back in and they're trying to grab him,

it's like, oh, it's so harrowing. And then he goes, I never got out. That, for years it took me, I kept thinking about that guy who drifted off into space. And the greatest death scene in a movie.

Yeah, totally. I can feel it, Dave. I can feel it. Daisy. We're dear. Yep. And now here we are in the world of AI. Well, Paul, that's the scary part.

And we all, I can, in three years, I can make a movie with my computer. Like Apocalypse Now, right? I know. I refuse to believe that's going to happen. Garbage. Your movie's...

Apocalypse Now is garbage? No, I mean, if you're going to go make it on your computer with it. Yeah, I know, exactly. We'll see where it all goes. Exactly. So, um... Any final thoughts, David? I've been on the David Spade podcast.

I want to know if you would think I could handle the conjuring. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, I love the conjuring movies. But would you enjoy it if you do? No, I won't. I do.

I mean... That's based on if it's as any real, if it's as any real, if it's as any real. Is any devil? I can't take it. Go to see weapons. Weapons is a good. Okay. You and Dana both like it.

You will enjoy it. It's mostly funny and it's filmed. I thought the beginning, the first act is so interestingly. Yeah, the first act, you'll go like, oh, this is going to be really scary. And then it, because it jumps around different POVs of the different characters. And then, I'll just say Amy Madigan is brilliant in the movie. I didn't know it until I was going to know the end credits. You're going to get pop outs, you know, and you know.

when they're coming the camera's in tight what I do is I sort of squint there's not too many of those because I don't I don't like there's only like three of those kind of like right right you know um just squint during those I'm in my late late 40s take a beta blocker I'll take a beta blocker and go all right thank you Paul and I will uh thanks Paul we'll be housemaid we will go December 19 December 19th and theaters only theaters only I'm going to see it and then I'm going to hit you up after you bet I can't wait perfect all right bye guys I'm going to go they're going to Everybody.

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