Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - RE-RELEASE - Amy Poehler

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

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but Christopher Walken, who we all crack up about. She's just Amy Poller. I mean, she's so charming and fun and funny. And really one of those came during that age when women cast members kind of took over, S&L. Tina, with Maya. Tina and Chris and Whig and Cade and everybody, and we're going to, Rachel Dratch.

But anyway, Amy is a gem and it's so much fun to talk to. I would listen to this if I were you. And she didn't come on for a long time. We were so excited to finally get her, and it turned out to be such a good one. So here it is for you to. to listen to Amy Paula. I love your glasses.

Oh, thank. They're kind of 60s or something, something hip. Yeah, I get them off at Amazon. Mm-hmm. Because now I've got to use my readers, my readers, my cheaters. Got your cheaters. Give me them cheaters. Look at Dana, watch them go.

Oh. Would this change the vibe of the interview? It makes you feel more like. conservative like you're going to drop some politics. Really? Sunglasses? Yeah. Interesting.

Hmm. Would you agree, David? Yeah, I think I think there's a vibe. Are you guys forming an alliance? Yeah, we are. It's a little early, but I get it. You overlapped or did you overlap? I wish.

No. I mean, but David hosted. Oh yeah, that's right. Wait, can we, we can talk about SNL, right? Yeah, yeah, because we're not, it's already been on. But Amy did a funny. I just thought of this, Amy. Oh, you were my stunt double.

Yes, we did a sketch where I played David Stunt Double because we could probably be brother and sister. Like we have similar features. So I played your stunt double. And then that's all I remember of the premise. No, I think it was someone played The Rock and I was like the Rock's buddy in a buddy comedy. And then when we got to like climbing on a building, they brought in Chris and I think Chris. And that was you, which I thought would be a boy.

And it was you. And you're like, hey, we're going to do this. We're all good. And I'm like, and Seth, I think, was the director. That's right. I'm just remembering as I go. And I'm like, hey, is it weird? You know, I'm a guy.

And he's like, oh, it's all equal. And it's just stunt people. And I'm like, right. And I'm not loving it. And then when she gets on, she goes, oh, no, rock. It's so scary. I'm like, I don't think she should talk if she's my, he just keep, you keep like crying. and acting like you're me

and I'm like, that's not what I'd say and no one has any problem with it. No, and I think when I put on that wig and I think we looked a lot of life. It was pretty close. Yeah, it was pretty close. I'm going to say. Yeah, Dana, you blew it.

You missed out. British, Irish, Scandinavian, German. I wish. French. British, Irish all the way. Right. Mostly Irish. Mostly Irish.

My brother lives in Sweden. so sometimes I people assume there's some Scandinavian but no none that we can find lots of Norway lots of Scottish and lots of Irish I'm British American and Southwest I'm airlines have you guys done the have you done the 23 and me have you done any of that stuff terrified my son did and he had a disproportionate amount of Neanderthal so I don't know what maybe that X maybe that explains something i don't know was i he's half neanderthal and um my wife's half dutch there was no dutch no his grandfather was 100% dutch and there's no dutch and a lot of cave man anyway welcome we're this is we're going to do this for the rest of the podcast it's about genealogy today

by the way i love your podcast i've listened to almost every episode you know probably every single person on the podcast that's crazy so great uh that that I'm getting a chance to do it. I'm so grateful. You made my day. I love it. And, you know, we all, we, SNL, like you've said many times, is kind of the, it's like you were in very specific, like special forces. And you all just want to kind of share stories about the nightmares that you continue to have about it 20 years. It's all poor, poor rich people. It is funny. We're like special ops. We say war and then people say, don't say that. So we changed it. You're right.

We say it to SWAT team. I said it once here. It's like the Marine, and I backed off of it. In 10 seconds, I said, please don't write me any letters because it's fun to say that. I did not mean to equivocate it in that way. I would just say if someone is unknown, maybe in an improv group like yourself, and it is suddenly on national TV. And then we all, as an audience, we, oh, what's her name? Amy Poehler.

Oh, she's getting really good. a reality show. Oh, she's really confident. Now she's right. Lots of opinions. Yeah. Lots of opinions. Yeah. Message boards. Like I started when message boards came out. So it wasn't, it wasn't, um, there wasn't any Twitter or anything yet. But it was these message boards that used to spring up like the next day. And also I started around when 2001, Tivo, remember Tivo? Kivo came into place. So it was like, oh, I could fast forward. SNL for the first time. Like that was a gift. What a gift. What a million dollar

idea. Um, I'm not so sure that's a good thing, Amy. No, I talk to Tvo. We'd rather have them to like watch the show as opposed to. I mean, I'll go for a pause, but that's it. You record it and then you, you like never really watch it. Everyone has a Lorne. You might as well do your 10 seconds of Lorne because you have to have a Lorne. Oh my God. I love it. My Lorne

is not great. But yes, it's very... There's no... There's no... Yeah, it's very... My Lorne is a little more paternal, which is like when he comes on the floor right before a sketch and goes like, do you like these wine glasses? Do this table look right for you? And you're just so nervous. You're about to do a sketch

in a restaurant. You're like, what? Are you happy with the wine glasses? Okay, okay You're like, you mean on the table and the sketch? Yeah. Yeah, they're like five, four. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My first season, I don't know if he did that later. It was a glass of chardonnay and he would be outside, because then he went under the bleachers. Well, that was for the dress show mostly. But during the live show, you're so fucking terrified.

And Lawrence Wynne Row, the glass of wine, acting so like there's not a live TV show going on. It was just amazing to why. him try to buy osmosis calm us down I guess you know I'm really oh sorry go ahead I'm saying I'm waiting to get pushed out on updating that chair I'm in the dark and he's like do you know who's winning the Yankees I'm like right now I don't know I got I have to look at the cards it's a mind

trick the non-sec order to distract you from the the chair turns and there's 10 million people watching you go ahead Amy no I was going to say when you guys talk about your experience at the show too on on your on this podcast it kind of feels like the before times because my first show was two weeks after nine 11 so for like the first three years or so at the show you know the shardinay was gone it was very much like serious business to keep comedy afloat you know it was very like will we ever laugh again and how can we do comedy and you know new york is under attack And it was all this like, how do we make fun of politics? Like it was just this like slow build back to get to Palin and Hillary by the end of that run.

But it took so long to even, you know, so I can just remember starting that job and being like my dream job. I was 30 years old. I started. I was like, here we go. And then all that happened and it was like, will we ever laugh again? That was basically the headline. It's true. And it was like, could we though just a little bit?

Because I'm, because I'm here now. Yeah. It was intense. Yeah, I've been dreaming and working toward this for my whole life. Could I do something funny? How could you do such a stupid sketch when what's going on in the world? And you're like, oh, well, this is the idea is to get away. But it went on, to your point, it went on for a long time of the idea, when will the next attack come?

Yes. where it really are we it wasn't an awesome so there was a really anxious period if i don't know when it finally would kind of i guess 2004 it felt like 2003 2004 but don't forget you know there was like anthrax in the building when we were there it was like you know it was wild but i think it felt around 2000 i i had one year of overlap with will feral and he did a sketch. I guess it must have been 2001, 2002, like about a guy who was really patriotic and he was wearing like, oh, yeah. And the hot tub. He was wearing a speedo. He's going to work, I think, Dan. I think it was Matt Piedmont might have wrote. Yeah, I think you're right. And he wears,

he has, he's very patriotic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a big one. It's very will the way he wore the speedo, the way he's played his legs. I mean, he is, he's brave or whatever you want to call it. He's just out there. But so that was really broke the seal a little bit. Yeah. And he had, you know, we had stopped doing any bush stuff,

any, we didn't do any politics during that time. Interesting. But that was like a big, a big silly stupid, you know, guy in a speedo sketch. And the audience really loved it.

And you're like, okay, maybe, maybe this is going to be okay. Maybe so, but we did a bunch of dumb pop culture stuff because, you know, it was like, Britney,

Spears snake trainer was like a character I was trying to get on because because no one wanted to talk about news politics. So it was weird. You kind of appreciate the big silly ones more even later on. Big dumb. Whatever word you want to apply to them. Broad really just balls out funny where you get sort of you want to get that I love Lucy kind of roll of a laugh. I got it with the dog on. It wasn't me. It was that sketch massive head moon harry just unleashed a whole i love lucy type of laughter because i was fighting with a dog over a fake fake head fake brains but it seems like you know just as an overview here for a second you came on the scene and then by the time you left you were just as good

as anyone had ever done that show i mean you i believe and i say this to people with all sincerity I mean, like the thing you did with Maya, the Long Island ladies, you were both brilliant and you were just so in the pocket of that character, rhythmically. Like I watched the immersion of that. It was just beautiful to watch that sketch. Oh, thanks, Dana. That means a lot. That sketch, that felt like we could have only done it when we were like seniors.

Like we were relaxed enough to do it. Um, we wrote that with Emily Spivey, the great Emily Spivey. Yeah, we hear about her a lot. Yeah, you should have her on this. She would be an incredible guess. And yeah, we improvised a lot of that, like it was just a lot of overlapping. The cards were kind of loose. And we kind of knew what we were going to say, but not really. And I don't think we would have been able to do that in the first couple of years. I know I wouldn't have. I would have been two results. Yeah, that's what I mean. I find that a lot. There's maybe Eddie Murphy the most extreme the other way, like a confident in day one, apparently.

And then there's people who have a pretty quick run-up, but then something that just goes and goes, and then the audience discovers you, and then it's, you know, could you, I mean, I don't have to do that character for five seconds, but if you, what would she say to David and I right now? I mean, you know, it's a very important time because it's sweater weather, like sweater weather's coming. It's very, very, very, she's going,

having a lot of hot flashes and she enjoys the nip in the air. But we base those two ladies, we base those ladies off of ladies that were in, really one woman who was in the hair department, Jody Mancuso, who was running the hair department. She was like Long Island, like, or Staten Island. I forget. Sorry, Jody, if I forget. And she had like, she was very like, and like gave it to you straight and just like come sit, talk. Let's talk.

Like she just had this chatty, fun energy that was kind of flirty, very maternal. And Maya and I used to just talk with her like that and talk like her. And mine was a, my lady had a little bit just because I'm not particularly great with accents. My lady probably fell into like a little Boston at times just because that's my hometown. But so we played Betty and Jody and they were just, it was almost like those women that happened to have a TV show, but they weren't, they were just chatting anyway. So we had a lot of fun where we would just, the camera would just come up on us and we were already in conversation and the camera would pull away and we were still talking. So that was the kind of vibe. It was being a was from California.

And then when I started going to New York and meeting characters in New York, and they were recognizable in that sense of come, sit, have coffee, please, how are you? It's very, it's warm, it's extirviter, everything is out in the open. I feel spilcus, this and that. But you guys just nailed it beautifully. I don't know. I see it. I just saw it on Instagram, Amy.

Like, you know how they pull up old sketches? they just, they start traveling around because it is sweater weather. So they, I saw, I saw clips of that. And it's kind of fun when things live on or they make a meme or something pops out. Oh, it's the best. It's so cool. And then you go, oh, something mattered. Something I did in the old days caught somewhere, you know.

Totally. People ask me this sometimes, like, what kind of compliments do you like to get? And I always say specific ones. You know, I like that line and that thing. And so when you're out and about in the world, just what do people come up and say to you? Maybe they talk about some of your movies or certain sketches or... It's funny. You know, you can kind of tell, like, the millennials love Parks and Rec.

Like, that was their show. And that's a show that, like, a lot of teenagers discovered during the pandemic. So there's a lot of millennial and Gen Z love for Parks and Rec. The Gen Xers and above know me more from S&L. um or you know more like movie or like hosting stuff um golden globes yeah like they kind of know that more i think but or like maybe they saw mean girls 25 years ago or something but oh right but it kind of feels like i get a lot of nice women that's like my demo is nice you know Tina and i are on tour right now and we're having a blast and like we it's just like the nicest women

in the audience, just coming with their friends or their daughters, you know. So I get a lot of just, like, friendly women. So I'm lucky that I don't get, you know, occasionally. And I get mistaken all the time for other women, whether it's Tina or Dratch or, like, you know, they kind of mush us all together, which is, which is fine with me. Really? But that happens sometimes too, but it's okay. Well, my wife is not a comedy fanatic or anything.

But she, I told her that you and Tina were doing a show. And she goes, oh, I would see that show. Yeah. We're doing that show for your wife. I think that, well, she's a nice woman. I go back to that. So it's, you know, the Golden Globes kind of cemented it. And we all, we saw you do an update.

You know, there's Tina. And you guys have this connection, I assume really, truly, really good friends. And have the chemistry of Steve Martin and Martin Short. And so seeing that as like, well, this is going to be fun. Because when I think of you, too, even though you did satirical jokes on Golden Globes, it was still always fun. Yeah. I think that's a good brand to have. You're going to have fun.

It's underrated. I think you're right. I think I don't know. I am in no way an expert in hosting things. But one thing I did learn really quick was from S&L, too. Like if you don't look like you're relaxed or having fun, the audience gets very stressed. Yeah, they're worried about it. When I see hosts and they're either nervous or stressed or even like coming angry, like, I don't know why I'm here.

Like that kind of thing. It's like, oh, no, I get so stressed because you are hosting a party. You're supposed to look like you're having fun. Like, it's a party. Like, who cares? It's an award show. Who cares? You, Maya.

It was you, Maya and Tina was at the academy? me words? We didn't host it. We just like opened it because I think so. That was a good trick of like less pressure. They're not the host, but you're on longer than you should be. And you're just joke machine. And then everyone's like, fuck, where are these? Why aren't they here the whole time? It's so great. Yeah. You don't have a months of lead up like, what are you going to do? What's so funny? Because you know, those hosting gigs are a lot of work. They're hard. There are a lot of jokes to write and get through and then also you can get you can you know now they like are kind of you can fall into traps and you can people can get mad yeah and so you're like oh my god forget it then

someone always has a problem with it no matter what i know it's okay it's like when billy bob thornton got his emmy i think he goes uh i'm not going to say anything because you can get in trouble i'm substituting Bill Clinton as Billy Bob Thorough, I apologize. I'm not going to say anything because you can get in trouble for saying something these days. He just walked off, you know. But to the fun part, you might find this funny in a way because John Lovitz, I was the one and kept saying, John, you got to do stand-up. So I was kind of, I'm no expert, but I'm coaching him a little bit.

I go, John, the one thing you always have to remember right before you go out because you can forget, just say to yourself, have fun. And he goes, I did it. I tried it. And then I started having more fun. And then I was getting bigger. laughs, you know, John. So it's, it's an amazing thing, but sometimes you go, what is going on? I'm not having fun. I forgot to have fun. It's the hardest, I think it's actually like the last

piece. It's the hardest piece to learn because you're pushing or you're nervous or your head somewhere else. And then it, yeah. And then when you actually relax, the audience just relaxes with you. I mean, I learned a lot from Will Ferrell that way. And because I would watch him perform. and he had this, like, mischievous quality where him and the audience were in on it together, you know, was kind of like this bemused quality of like, can you believe we're all here doing this stupid thing? And it would, you know, just like the minute they see you sweat, it's, it gets so stress for you. They tighten up.

This goes to therapy or something, but try not to try, try not to push, try not to be desperate. Try not to rush it. Take your time, but be in the pocket. And of course, when that voice goes silent, then you know, you and Tina are just on a roll. Well, what do you guys do when this rarely probably happens for you anymore? But like, let's say you're trying new material and it's not working. What do you do? Do you pull back in that moment? Or do you put, Like, do you push? Because I'll tell you that what I have to work on is pulling back too hard and, like, getting sleepy.

Your joke isn't working and you go to sleep? I go to sleep. I go right to sleep. You recoil. You know, it's funny when I, when something doesn't work, there's, I had it happen on the road recently where the whole show is going well. And one joke doesn't click. And I go, I had to stop and go, literally no one bought that.

One person, and it wasn't a couple of you. Everyone said no sale, and I feel like you're wrong on this one. And I'm going to give you one freebie. And then they don't know what to make of that. They're like, well, you're mad at us, but it's like joke mad. But when something doesn't work in a regular set or if you're doing a set on TV, what happens to me is you get spooked like a horse because my brain goes, what happened? And I can't think of my next joke because it's preoccupied with, what do I do? Why? Wait, should I even do the next one?

What did it just, did I say it wrong? And then you're like, that throws you. If you take one extra second, they think something's up. It's got to be just so smooth like a play. Boom, boom. I know. I have a bit in my act. I won't even say the bit, but whatever.

It's sort of like two thirds of the way, like you're trying to bring it to the barn, you know. And the last two times, not land. ending. And I know Jerry Seinfeld, who's this Fangali about this, check the setup, you know. The setup is, you know, I did this for Steve Martin. Jerry's going to do a live album on vinyl and it's going to see a picture of him on the cover and it's called paper clips. Why? Just like that joke. Jerry, we love him. He's brilliant. But I think sometimes you, when you're first saying it in a joke and you're kind of

connected to it or a bit and then you can get a little bored or you maybe drop just even part of the setup or stuff like that kind of because you're doing are you actually out there solo in your show with Tina as well yeah we do some sketch we do stand up we do um do you do stuff together we do update we do yeah really oh great so what's your first line ladies and gentlemen here to do some stand up for our show is amy polar no way no way are you out of your mind I'm not doing with YouTube. I thought your first line would be you'd say what you'd say what's up and then the name of the town.

What's up, Chicago. Hey, what's up, Denver? That's a good first line. Here's my opener. I'd be like this. Hey, guys, Tina will be out in a minute. Just because I'm. Oh my God.

It's funny that you say that I'm like, I'm going to do a little stand up while Tina gets her IV drip. There you go. Well, I think we're, Dana and I were talking before. We brought you on because we're both on the road here and there. And there's so many things about the road that are so tricky and I see that, you know, it is true something about, like, the show is the fun part, obviously. And it's so hard just to get to their city. You just want to get high five.

Like, I got here. I'm in the theater. Get in the hotel. And I feel like shit. But here I go. Let's do this. Because you almost never feel great. And you're almost never like, well, that was easy.

It's like, this is problem, problem, and then the hotel and getting there and what's back state. There's so many interesting questions we were thinking of with you guys. When do you go on? Oh, I know. It's so fun because you're right. Every different theater and space has like a vibe and it has like the guy that's in charge, like the one that.

Character. Yeah, there's always the character. It's like, oh, I can't answer that. You have to talk to Dan about that. And you're like, okay, where's Dan? Like, it's always. Dan's like. He's always around. Dan doesn't come in. Dan zooms in from home.

My guy's usually named Dan as well. I don't know if he travels. Do you do a sound check? We do. We do. We do a sound play. Oh, you have to have a lot of you have stuff going on. Yeah. You've got a montage of greatest hits or whatever and you've got whatever. You have a piano player and stuff like that? No, we have some recorded music stuff, but we don't have a live, yeah. And you sing together? Live piano player. But it's, what's that? Do you sing a song together? Maybe. You have a good boy. Always, Dana. Have you heard her sing in the beginning of the podcast?

Tonight before I go to sleep, I'm going to try to figure out what can't Amy Polo. Yeah. With Amex Platinum, access to exclusive Amex pre-sale tickets can score you a spot trackside. So being a fan for life turns into the trip of a lifetime. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Presale tickets for future events subject to availability and varied by race. Turns and conditions apply. Learn more at MX.ca.

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Well, I really like the water. Like that calms me down. I like swimming and going in the water. Ocean Lake and swimming. And can you swim? No, I can't. I'm kidding. But I mean, I go to a hotel pool and I go

freestyle, and I go the length of the pool, and I'm completely wiped out. And, you know, I'm like sprinting, but I don't know it. And it's, there is a whole technique to it, but you've learned it, right, how to actually. I think if I need to get regulated, my nervous system, water does help me, whether even if it's a bath or just like getting in some water. But before a show, you know, I'm kind of used to, it's, it's funny. When I would do shows as an improviser and like sketch comedian with standups, I was always surprised. that there wasn't a lot of chit-chat you know there was there stand-ups were just kind of trying like walking around talking or with their headphones like thinking about their set and really really

and frankly trying to remember it which is half the battle very true and and you and with improv and sketch you know it's like you want to just like keep doing bits up until you go on stage it's like you want to just like make a connection with the people you're performing with and so i kind of tend to like want to just chit-chat and talk and and not overthink things. But now that I'm older, like sometimes I just want to like do some like light stretch, light stretching. Just some light stretching so I don't pull a hammy. Oh, definitely. You can't go high. And then your arms like, oh, sorry. I mean, I try to do a wide squat and make sure because I might get in that position or move around, stretch your calves. Yeah. Have you ever had any physical thing or cut

yourself on stage. Oh, my God, yes. Well, I'm just getting over this thing. I talk about it on stage. I'm just getting over this thing, which is, it's so embarrassing. It sounds like a, it sounds like a, it sounds like a bad cocktail. But I had this thing this year called frozen shoulder. No, all about it. Yes. I bet your wife. Like, was it your wife that went through it? No, no. It was our mutual manager, I think. Okay. Oh, it had a frozen shoulder. Yeah, I feel, What does it do? It's the weirdest thing. It comes out of nowhere.

And it's like from my anecdotally, I find it's mostly women of my age. But it's just like inflammation. And suddenly you just like can't lift your arm all the way up. And so it's this. It just feels like you're like, you just feel really fucking old. You just are like, oh, fucking hell, what is this? And it'll take about a year. And you're just like, what a year?

And it's proven to be about. a year. So it sucked. They're just making up names for old things. Frozen shoulder sounds good and you're like, well, it's that a real thing or I'm just falling apart. It's a real, real thing. I was doing a podcast with David. I never even said this before. We're doing what we've done a few live. And then my, I think it was my left foot. My toes splayed out in a spasm. And we're, and I was a massive pain, but I just was riding it out. Just riding it out. We're interviewing someone. Spade, take it. And I'm like, and it doesn't happen to me all the time. They just, the toes went out and got really angry. As soon as it was over, I just walked around. It was fine. But we have to,

we're supposed to do all this freaking stuff all day long, pulling and stretching and Pilates, all this stuff to keep us together. You know, so I did. I know. And I was so much younger when I was on SNL and I think about how much I just partied and just walked like I didn't do I didn't worry about any of it I just wasn't even thinking about

any of it I wasn't thinking about collagen I wasn't thinking about water nothing no wasn't even thinking about water did we know how do we did we I know I look at you see picture yourself because you're in show bitch and go damn I've I

did I know how cute I was yeah I know did we know young we were, is it all wasted on young? Who said that? Cold Porter, I don't know.

I didn't have a glass of water during S&L. I was there six years. You never had one. That just wasn't the thing that everyone, I didn't know what carbs where I eat fucking pasta

every day. Wally and Josephs, I ate pizza. And I always felt shitty. I never put anything together. I'm like, what is it? What is it?

I don't have the Rubik's cube to figure this out. I'll eat is carbs, no water, and Diet Coke. And my body is so sore, Amy, when I,

every day, it's like my shoulder's going, I open a car door and they're like, what? I'm like, I do this every day. And it's like, oh, what are you doing? Like it's, it forgets overnight. I'm doing basic things. I know. Well, you know what I, you know what is helping with this.

And I know this is probably like people listening are like, oh my God, be quiet. How old are you guys? Yeah. But you know what I've been doing is I've been doing cold dips. And they've changed. For real? For real? Yes.

I do cold dips. And it's. the game because that's a big deal now do you do it in a in a bathtub with ice in it you do it you take the or is it in a pool or a lake or where are you getting i have it like i have a cold dip tub okay cold dip yeah okay like a tub that i keep cold so and i have a like a sauna a little hut sauna uh so i do 15 minutes of the sauna and then i plunge in the cold dip and it helps a lot David. Inflammation.

Yes. I think you and Tina should do 10 minutes in a cold plunge doing update on stage. Just bring out the ice. That's a, I would love that. I think our endorphins would be flying. Sponsors. I'm an undisclosed location, but I have a pool for the first time in a long time. And don't heat it.

I like it as cold as I can get it now for that very reason. Wake up. You know, it's amazing if you get into a cold lake, because I was looking at it as a lake that's really too warm, how you really suffer for about 10 seconds. But if you're moving, all of a sudden, you're like, oh, it's fine. Yeah, that's the thing about getting older is, like, forced austerities. Like, what can I do to myself that a doctor is not telling me to do, but that I can do to torture myself?

Like, I have the privilege of cold dipping or, like, I only eat apples after 5 p.m. And it's like, why? I was like just that's what I'm doing now like that's how it's got to it's got to be good I know I'm trying something yeah well it's it's it's always nice you have to get a blood test and stuff and you're wondering well did they find something the doctor's talking to you and like it's fine it's good everything's okay so my guy my guy looks at my blood test I sit there and he goes hmm then he goes like this don't love that you know the worst thing your worst thing about you hear from a doctor.

I went to a dentist because I had that two things. This is what we're going to talk about. It's so tragic. And the guy comes in and he actually said, he actually said, wow, when he looked at my mouth. He said,

wow. I said, wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. He said it like,

oh, he said it like walking. He said it like walking. Wow. Wow. Yeah, three rounds. Amy.

I just said someone, were you in a walking family? I never saw that. I said to my friend, I go, look at this ridiculous. Oh, you all were walking in a sketch, right? Yes, and that was so fun because, you know, I think I, I, um, I benefited from low expectations. I don't think anyone expects me to pull out a good walking, but I was playing a little kid, like a little girl who was doing a walk-in.

And I had had, I had had a friend who had told me a story about Christopher Walken and that, you know, he was he went to uh he was on set one time and he was like you know are there any ghosts here like you know this place is spook he kept saying it's spooky which is such a funny word to say so i got to say ghosts and spooky and that was yeah that was enough did he care at all he he was one of the most interesting hosts um because he was really, he's really, you know, no surprise, eccentric dude. So he was really comfortable with silence. So, you know, most people, when you're just waiting around to run the scene again, you're just sitting on the floor like you chit chat, like, but he would want to just sit

quietly between each, you know. So he might have been the longest I've ever gone seated next to someone and not talking with five, six, seven, seven. minutes. It would just be me and him and we wouldn't talk. And it became like a contest in my own mind to see how long we could go. And he was, he was fine with it. He was fine with it. Can everyone shut up? Yeah. He was super, super talented and very, very, I swear. He's so interesting. He's riveting. The first sketch, I don't know what it was. Maybe I'm maybe a church chat or something. Anyway, we did it all. We rehearsed it. But on air, he never looked at me. He just looked straight at the cue cards and read it and it worked.

Yeah. And it was funnier, you know. I heard, I heard a rumor that he takes out, I don't know if this is true, but that he takes out all the, all the punctuation in his scripts. Wouldn't surprise me because his rhythm is so specific that might get him out of his, get out of his rhythm, don't like to pause in ways like that. I mean, John Lovitz again, my friend John, he's the kind of guy. goes, is it you?

Are you making up that dialect? Is that the way you really talk? And he said, Walkin just started laughing. You're making it up, right? Oh, that's funny. Well, that's funny. Yeah, he seemed like he had a good sense of humor about himself. Yeah, and who knows, you know,

there's certain actors who just extenuate their rhythms as they become film stars over the years like Al Pacino when he feels like it. Yeah. And Walken, too, he was in that Woody Allen movie as the psycho driver. it was in this set place. First time I saw it.

Yeah. You know. And he goes, sometimes I like to turn the car, I think of turning into the headlights. Yeah. And he goes, well, I wouldn't on this trip. Maybe put a pin in that. You know, it's like a crazy. Just, as soon as you drop me off, you can indulge your piccadillos if you want to go into the

and get some rhubob and, you know, run. But yeah, he's just one of the thrills of doing Saturday Live is just doing sketch comedy with someone like Christopher Walken. And, you know, I'm seeing him in the Deer Hunter. I just feel like, you know, growing up in the 70s, like I just saw every movie way too young. I would, I saw so many line-like images.

You saw that at what? Oh, I can't even imagine. I think I was seven. Oh, my God. And it was like, I learned about, yeah, I learned about Vietnam. I learned about prisoners of war. I learned about you know, Russian roulette. Russian roulette.

I learned it all from Christopher walking. And it was, and it was, It was like, you know, and then I went to first grade. Like that's, I got to, I'm heading first grade, guys. I'm tired. I was at the deer hunter last night. That they were getting slapped in the face in Vietnam. Now more the exorcist.

And they're forced to play Russian roulette. And they would slap them and say, mao, and slap them. Yes. And I don't know what that word meant in Vietnamese, but it's one of the most riveting darkest scenes in film history. Darkest. I saw the reefers with Steve McQueen when I was, I saw Bonnie and Clyde.

when I was like 11. Well, it's a little tamer. A little tamer. But there was a sex scene. It was a little, you know. So, but yeah, you've seen those 70s, badass movies as a little girl. We, and, you know, I was the generation that got, like, HBO and MTV, like, in our house. And no one was paying attention.

So suddenly you just, there are movies on that you should not, I should not have been watching. It's just that, yeah, no one knows. It's just the next movie on. And everyone's gone. You're like, oh, what's this? Oh, the omen. Yep, the yeoman. Let's see what this is about.

Oh, this might be fun. Hopefully, I hope you both didn't see this movie because it stayed with me and disturbed me very much. And I think it's Dustin Hoffman. I know it's Dustin Hoffman. It's the first straw dogs. Look it up, kids. I don't even want to talk about it.

Fucking love it sent me that the other day. Is that crazy? He sent me a preview. Watch this movie. Straw dogs with Dustin Hoffman? Yes. Is that weird? He's brilliant, but it is.

dark well I was just watching Midnight Cowboy the other day they had a showing of it in New York and I was like I love Midnight Cowboy I love Dustin Hoffman and that and I love John Voight

and then I'm like oh my God I forgot this giant horrible you know assault seen there's so many you know there's so much assault in that movie like flashbacks of what happens to John Void's character and his girlfriend and I just like I forget

with 70s movies you just be cruising along and then there'd be like a really violent scene. They were just, oh, no. And when now I'm the mother of teenagers and I, like, oh, you should watch this movie. And then there's just this scene that's always, oh, I forgot. This scene was in this movie.

It's brutal. I even got scared at Tommy, Dana. I was young and my brother took me. And the gypsy acid queen. And then she threw like acid the guy's face. So there's fire at the beginning. And it burned his face. And I was like, and I go, I have a stomachache.

and I went to the lobby and then I never came back because I got scared they go, what's up? I go, no, I'm fine. I just have some stuff to do out here literally nothing to do. What's the first?

Have you showed a movie to your kids where it blew their mind and it was kind of satisfying? Because at one point, I don't remember how old they were just my example. I put on jaws for them

and maybe they were sort of 12, 14, whatever. Okay, see you later, kids. So I come back 10 minutes later and they're not moving. They're not, staring. They just hit them at the right, you know, like, oh, man, this is amazing. So that was my. Yeah. That's, I mean, I have two boys. They really like a lot of sci-fi, you know,

action adventure stuff. But they, I remember when they were really young, I, Willie Wonka was the first one. I was like, I think you're going to love this and they loved it. And I felt really. And as far as comedy like it it you know what you don't love what your mom likes like your mom is lame like you don't want to like what your mom likes but so I almost had to let them discover S&L on their own and they're at the age now they're 13 and 15 where they're they're at that age where they're like I wonder what S&L is going to do about this like that's what you know and you know definitely their favorite anchors are Jost and Che and course they of course and they just don't want to watch they barely want to watch stuff i'm in it's like it's

embarrassing like it's their mom like right do they want to watch their mom on tv have you recommended comedies that they give the thumbs down like that you grew up with oh yeah oh yeah there's been so many things where i'm like that's funny now that is you should watch that that's funny oh that's funny mom you got to check this out this is really funny mom yeah and i'm always like turn that off that that guy is But I remember The Simpsons was the first crossover where we could all watch it. And they were kind of learning how to structure a joke. And I was laughing too. But yeah, it's always that group on SNL, for example, when you're 12 or 13.

And not to make you feel old, Dana, but that was you for me. Me too. Me too. I feel terrific. I'm the youngest I've ever been. this particular range. Your toes are not spasming at all. Everything is fine. No, no, nothing is spasmed during. And if they were spasming, I would cover for it. I would just get kind of quiet on the Zoom. He'd go like this. Slunk down a little bit. I'd be like that. In the frame

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write this whatever and sometimes not just obviously comedies but i'll watch a show and i'll be like this is so fucking complicated i am not even in the same uh genre i'm not a writer because the fact they have so many levels to these things and i go what is this dog shit i write why am i called a writer this is ridiculous i shouldn't even mean the guild well we just do bite-sized silly stuff. I know. It's goofy. Comedians don't really get awards.

They generally don't win Oscars. And we have the American Comedy Awards anymore. Oh, but you know what? You guys will be the right people to talk, the right people to talk to about this. What irritates me so much, though, is that once a year, at least, there's like someone that we would all consider

genuinely funny who gives a performance that's really good, you know, good acting performance. And people are always like, wow. And I'm like, are you, do you, like, I think acting and comedy are so combined. They're so close, you know, like you, one must be a good actor to sell a bit, tell a joke, to, like, there's, I'm just, I'm always surprised that people are surprised that funny people can be good actors. You know, so rarely are good actors funny, but funny people are often very good actors. And I always think it's just, I think it's, I don't think they get, I don't think people get, I don't think 20 people.

But it's such a rare commodity, but if we were, if comedy was outlawed, I would love to do drama or do, do kind of realistic acting, but it's, this is what I do best. I guess it's just a rare, rare thing. And good comedy performances don't really get the old Oscars and stuff. You see like somebody, you're not saying us, just saying other people that are great at it and they do a great performance. It's not even considered. No, it's crazy. There's a reason they say, well, who said this? Dine is easy, comedy is hard.

I know that was like from vaudeville or something. It's tough. That's why I'm jealous of musicians because when musicians have to play an event, they just get up there and they play their song. Like they play the song. Everybody wants that they play the same song over and over again that everybody wants them to play. And when you're going up there trying to do something funny,

people are like, give us something new. We don't want to hear your usual stuff. Yeah, I'm like, how about this? It's old. You can't repeat your bits, and then you have to create rapport, and, oh, it sucks. I always want to plug in a guitar, and, oh, my God. After every line you're judged, if they don't laugh, even people that aren't listening, like, I guess it's not going well.

But with musicians, here it is, applause. Here's the next one, applause. But there's no, like, I guess we did good. Do they yell out for you? Do you get yell out for you, David? Or does, do they yell out your hits or they or they yell stuff? I get sort of a sometimes a rowdy or crowd. I mean, Tina, what you, Amy, Dana and I have done corporates.

Have you and Tina ever done a corporate? Oh, yeah. I used to do a yes, yes. Oh, really? I mean, I used to do a lot of, we used to do a lot of corporate stuff for Second City back in the day. Like, you know, and this was before anyone, you know, knew our names, but we would have to go. We would get paid, you know, to like to do jokes about, you know, old John Miller. Yeah, Vice President John Miller.

Like, he's got crazy hair and he loves great, you know, wearing cookie ties. And everyone would be like, that's me. I'm John Miller. And you just have to do all these, like, specific jokes. So hard. It's so hard. I work with him. That's true.

It's so him. You're doing it. He's got three balls and beats his wife. Say something about it. I go, in my act, I don't know what. the same and then and then one guy laughs in the back yeah and everyone else like was that true what it's one guy sets you up yeah i knew the meet and greet i'm sure you've had this but i don't know if it's like alpha male stuff but you're kind i'm this little guy and i'm sort of the star of the show

but in the meet greet i have these guys just really kind of fucking wailing on my hand i mean and maybe they've had a couple cocktails they show off i'm like i had at one point then i got tennis elbows more more ailments so i had to do the fist bump or i had to kind of wave And they're like, I want to put my mitts in time with your mitt, squeeze, you know. I'll show you who's boss. I'm like, you're boss. We don't even have to do this. Yeah, you win, boss.

I go, I have frozen hand. And Dana has frozen elbow. And Amy has frozen shoulder. But at least my screen hasn't frozen. So, Amy, so you're going to therapy stuff. I mean, first of all, just career. I mean, do you have any bug? Are you going to try to do a dramatic film?

Or you're directing, you directed wine country, you're writing, you're producing, you're producing shit. I mean, what doesn't she do? Whoops. Don't be scared. You have new glasses. Don't run away from it.

She doesn't pay her tax. You just do a lot. Yeah, I have this production company called Paper Kite. So we produce a lot of TV and film. I like doing a lot of different things. That's why, you know,

and trying to stay, trying to stay doing a lot of different things because I find this business is very I mean the strike is a perfect example of it like it's really fickle it's really you have to stay you have to know how to pivot so like I like acting and stuff and writing stuff and directing stuff and so I try to kind of do you know whatever is the next thing I try to do is different from what I just did and but I haven't done I've been more into writing and directing than performing lately and the tour has been really fun because it's gotten me back into being excited and this podcast has been fun because it gets to play like a character but actually doing TV or doing movies like this so hard so much time so hard being on set it's just takes up as you guys know it just takes up your life. Movies is the hardest are such a chunk beginning middle end of your day and you know um I feel like so lucky like some right had such a show that I love that I couldn't imagine going to do something else right away.

And then, you know, suddenly I'm looking at whatever it is, like six, seven years later. But so, yeah, I'm just kind of doing whatever feels right to do next. And I'm so lucky that you brought up wine country. I have such a group of ladies. It's kind of like you guys, it's you guys with grownups. Like, it's just like I want to just keep doing stuff with the women I love. And they're so funny and there's so much fun. I mean, there's no better joy than doing stuff.

with your friends like that's success and you who was it i like that you know i love i love this phrase it's been used a few times in this podcast a murderer's row is such a funny but it was a murderer's row on wine country you know obviously my uh rachel uh anna yes we had a murderer's row in that movie paula pal emily spivey an agastire rachel dratch Tina fey my rudov but then when i was at SNL, I was lucky. I was in this group of Will Forte, Fred Armisen, Bill Hader, Andy Sandberg, Seth Myers, like, Kristen Wigg. That all happened in my years, too. Keenan Thompson. Like, it was just, so that was, they were so talented. People were so, so good and talented. And when I look at those cast photos of who I got, and also the beginnings and endings of my time

there, my endings, it was like, you know, Will Ferrell. Chris Parnell and then, and that was being in when I was leaving, you know, Kate McKinnon was coming in and like all these people were coming in that were. So that's the cool thing is you just, if you're lucky, you get some overlap with people that you just love. And that's the best. I had one year with Will and got to watch him. One last question from me and then Dana, whatever he wants, but you, you did Hillary and then was it Kate did it after you? Yes. Yeah. And Anna, I think Ana Gasser did it before me. Maybe did Hillary before me.

Yeah, there was a bunch of them. And I did it when, when Downey was writing a lot of them. And then, and then we did when Palin, that was like, first she was running it against Barack, you know, for the, to win the thingy there. And then Barack won the, what you call it, nomination. nomination yeah well first he won the nomination right he beat hillary and then palin showed up so it was so fun to be able to do those two characters together because you don't get a lot of like female politicians getting to even do scenes together half the time yeah so that was super super fun to do and it it felt like it was everybody was paying attention to that election it was very you know i played dennis i played dennis kucinich one time and everyone was like, ah. Look him up, look him up if you don't know who he is.

Dennis Coosinich. Well, then it became a lot, which, you know, we asked Keenan this question. And I've referred to it a couple times, you know, about great cast or great cast members. And he just said the MVP basically is the women of since the 90, late 90s. And we have Jan Hooks and Nora Dunner, our gender. But there's been so many dominant women. And even in later years now, the women play the male politicians. There's all the rules are.

So that's kind of cool. It's progress, I suppose. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was very, very lucky to be dropped into that show at a time when Tina was a head writer and Molly and Sherry and Anna had just left. Like, they had just done so much great work. And yeah, I mean, I just kept going. Just kept going.

Yeah, I think that wasn't always the case ever, you know, everyone has. their version of their experience there. And I think there were stretches when women did not feel heard, supported, encouraged. And I'm sure there still are places and stretches now. Like everyone has a completely different experience about their time there. But I felt like I lucked out in that there were these like just killers that were there crushing that I felt I was part of that group. group and I you know I felt very lifted up by them so I was very lucky it feels like it's been

wiped out if there was ever you know some dude in the 70s you know women aren't funny not Lauren but somebody you know like women aren't funny as many as well why after Lucy Ball and others they would say that Carol Burnett but it seems now it's like to me anyway being a baby boomer it's obliterated this is a funny person I don't think I'm watching a woman I just go they're funny they're funny so i guess i'm calling it progress a little bit at least and i would even i would even say to expand it less about gender like i find the more talented you are the less most unless you're yeah you're just not you're not uh that insecure like the funniest people i know love other funny people they that's what they love they get drawn to other people's work regardless

of race gender yeah they don't care but if it's people that like have their own stuff their working out. And here we are back to therapy. Dr. Sheila would be able to get these people in and talk and say, like, I know you don't laugh at this person, but really what's the thing about yourself that you're not, not laughing at? What's it? What's part about you that isn't funny that you're mad at the women that are funny? Yeah, what are you're mad about? But I do think, you know, kind of dovetailing back into the quasi-marine analogy or spree decor. But when you see somebody who makes you laugh, or me personally, who does this and knows how hard it is or just some whimsical luck that something hit you and the rhythms are right and it works. And then watching other people do it.

And then really in your own mind going, well, they're doing it, they're doing it, I think, better than me. You know, it's like, and you kind of connect to them. And if you meet them socially, places, there's a frequency there or a shortcut. It's a great way of communicating. And since humor is a good thing if you can have it, you know, in friends and relationships, it just cuts across. And anywhere I would be in the world, if a few comedians walked in, if it was any social awkward thing, even if I knew them or didn't know them, I would instantly be a lot more comfortable. Yeah, at parties, I go up, even those big Oscar type, you just zoom right over to the comedian. Anybody in the comedy world sort of gravitates together feel like you're all.

own little group. Totally. Absolutely. Absolutely. I feel like you're part. I mean, I'd really mean it. Like, I feel honored to be in a group that you guys feel like you're in, too. I mean, I feel like, I would zoom right to you and Tina. If I saw you out, I'd be like, guys, save me. What's going on? I'm saving this for them, but I am a licensed therapist. I just, it's a casual thing I got. And why do you feel that way about your peers, Amy? Well, why do you feel the need to ask? Yeah. Oh, yeah. check mate she's been practicing my therapist help me the one thing she said was she basically says life is a shit show don't get involved in this idea that these people are living these dream lives

on instagram or whatever it's all made up to to live is to suffer and to embrace it you like oh cool okay it's all right it's kind of like where we're talking about about s and l you have to kind of believe that no one's really thinking about you everyone's kind of thinking about themselves and if you take the pressure off of yourself that everybody's thinking about you, then you can have a good time. But most people are just thinking about themselves, you know, life is hard. Everyone's in their own head. It's the entire audience, yeah. And you know, that we all know that we watch really successful people who kind of get what would, you know, be the platonic version of all the stuff everyone move on and they're still just not happy. So happy is, is an elusive kind

of concept you know because going for content at this point if you're striving because it's not well another cliche so is it about the shiny things and the money or people talking to you at an airport ultimately it is but landing the bit right I mean for me anyway well David's different he's coming up listen coming up with ideas or something that makes me laugh is like one of the last joys of like it's still something works in your brain you're like Oh, this is, you can crack a code of a joke or an angle. And you go, fuck, that little things like that are really mean a lot, you know. Yes, agree.

And hopefully we can still do it when we're like not able to stand up. Lift our shoulders. We'll do sit down. You guys will do sit down. No matter what they say, if use it or lose it is a concept, you know. I think the more you, I mean, I think trying to memorize your act. Like say you have kind of a new act. I was shooting a special.

And just the exhaustion of your brain, it must be some kind of workout to keep you articulate or all things being equal because you'll stay more fluid longer and doing this, you know. When we started reading ads, I was dyslexic or something. Remember David in the early days? I was like, I couldn't really read them. And now I've liquefied my ancient brain and now I can just look at her radio. I heard Amy doing her ads and I'm like, this is liquid IV. I go, I'm drinking one now.

I go, this is similar, but thank you, Amy. Very nice of you to take the time. We love it. We love talking to you. And the best part of this podcast, we just get to spend like a, you know, a focused hour getting to know you in 20, whatever it is, 23. It's a very boring time in America. Nothing's going on. So it's good that we have.

We can figure out something to talk about. But anyway, well, we'll see. I love this is what I use because someone did it to me. See you around campus as if show business is a high school or something. Oh, that's cute. I love that. Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast app.

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