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Okay, our show today is someone we talked to.
Took a while to get him on, Andrew Samburg.
Andrew Phineas is his middle name.
Not many people know that.
Sanberg.
So he came on, he's just one of the all time greats on SNL.
He changed SNL.
you know with lazy sundays what was called i think it was called lazy sunday was the first video short
went crazy um and then i got to know him as he was playing um Maya Rudolph as Kamala was playing
her husband Doug so we got to hang out a lot flew back and forth a couple times so he he is
one of the smartest people I've ever met
he's really and funny as hell
so good dude I talked with the 50th little bit
he's on TV a lot
he's all over the place those digital shorts
were just kind of a groundbreaking
and he's got animated shows and all kinds of stuff
going on hot rod we just had Ila Fisher
and she was in Hot Rod his movie
he does tons of stuff
you know him you love him he's got great hair
here he is Andy Samber
You were on the show, and then you went to a sitcom pretty quickly.
Was it right, the next season?
Yeah, and I mean, I didn't want to.
Yeah.
And then it was just Mike Scher asked, and I was like, oh, shit.
I saw what he did with Polar, and I was like, it's good.
Yeah, I mean, if you, I sort of went in.
Polar.
Polar doesn't go down for anybody.
I love Amy Polar.
She doesn't want?
She doesn't go down for anybody.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
I just said it as a joke.
she's powerful she's a great comment no when you leave the show it's very scary and uh and then they said
which i used to say was uh you get like one kind of free shot you know like if you jump off
the show they go do you want to back then it was a little more going on in that world like
they said do you want to do your own sitcom oh yeah like polly shore got one you know this you get one
but it's very hard it's riskier and then just shoot me was already shot it was already at the
upfronts and they picked it and then laura sanjicoma was out there to announce it and the night
before they pulled her and said it's just we need one more thing to this so it's so weird so i got to see
the whole pilot oh wow and then the guy was from larry sanders which i loved and the writer steve levitan
and then um never heard he said you want to add if we just add you to hear about them anymore
that's wild i didn't know idea about yeah so i said i got to see it which has helped and i go
oh, I'm coming from the most competitive, toughest, funniest people in the world.
Not that they weren't funny, but they're all actors.
And I go, oh, there's no one like me here.
You know, I had a Dana there and I had everyone better than me.
And I was like, thank you, David.
Yeah.
And so, I'm saying because he's great.
And you go, wow, when I'm not in a room with Sandler, Rock, Farley, Mike Myers, Dana.
And I go, these guys are just great actors and funny, but there's not one like me exactly.
I could sort of jump out.
George Siegel said it's four actors and a cartoon.
That's what he used to say about me.
And I got, thanks.
You were the fonts.
You guys, it was kind of cool, but it's an observation.
Yeah.
Brooklyn, what was the name of yours again?
Just shoot me.
Just shoot me.
I'm sorry.
You guys also went, you were the stars.
You were the Fonses, but you had an ensemble.
Yes, that's the fun part.
And so that's not, like, hanging out in a movie, you can't do it.
You can do it on live streaming now.
If no one sees it, no one cares.
But in those days, like, movies you're hung out there, but I thought you.
Yeah, people see it.
And it was like you, I know, and your experience, I think I,
did know you right is the CBS Radford right yeah so you shot it same stage so you got into it and you
somewhat hesitantly but you jumped in you did your best because once you say yes to something right
yeah you got to try and make it good did you write on that and you're gonna be writing just casually but
yeah no I never I never was like in the room or had my name on a script isn't that great though
but weren't it was nice they give you good stuff anyway and it works anyway that's the craziest feeling
coming from S&L is having someone hand you great jokes and you're like wait I get to just have these and then
And everyone thinks I thought of them.
And then they go, how do we make these better for you?
You're like, what the far?
Oh, I don't know.
We were both stand-ups.
That was a revolution for me if Bonnie Turner gave me.
The church lady could say this.
Wow.
Awesome.
Yeah, it's true.
It does happen at S&L.
It takes a couple years before someone gives you a great joke, though.
Well, he came out of the gate huge.
Thank you, David.
It's true.
This is my favorite podcast.
He had to work a little bit.
But you get on there.
He came out of the gate and revolutionized Saturday Live show.
But we can get to that thing.
We'll get to that.
And the live show, though, I did not come out of the gate strong.
but you revolutionized the thing right
YouTube comes out
SNL's still going
and then you came in with your buddies
and it went boo it went
it was it was fortuitous timing
I like to say with the YouTube stuff
because you know
it started with like Albert Brooks doing short films
and McKay did short films
and it was like a long history of it
at the show that we loved
Shiller Vision's great
even like the Eddie Murphy stuff
doing like me where he was like walking
around town.
Like, there's always cool pre-tapes.
We just were like, we're going to do them every week.
It's hard, though.
SNL digital, he even got a name.
Yeah.
It's like an idea.
Yeah, and the first one was Lazy Sunday, if I'm correct.
It was the first one people liked.
Do you think you blew up YouTube or YouTube blew you up?
I think we are responsible for YouTube, and they owe us a lot of doubt.
I knew a guy who was trying to do YouTube, and he was like six months late.
he had all the technology the idea
Oh he's gonna do a YouTube
Yeah YouTube and then YouTube came out
And then I was with him
And he was trying to think of a name
He had Grupper
And then a friend of mine renamed it Crackle
In Sony Body
Oh yeah I remember those
But YouTube is such a perfect name
Like DocuSign
You have to sign documents
I have to I own DocuSand stuff
I shouldn't be promoting my portfolio
I mean I interact with DocuSign a lot
I do too
I think I love you
You know that
Danny, it's a penny.
I eat a penny?
You get a penny every time someone signs something.
Does an angel get his wings?
No, I do.
So YouTube was only out about six months, right?
Yeah, that sounds about right.
I mean, we hadn't heard of it until someone told us they just watched Lazy Sunday on YouTube.
Oh, wow.
And then we were like, what's that?
And then we realized, oh, someone finally thought of an actual good layout for streaming videos.
Because there had been tons of websites trying to do it.
And especially, like, comedy shorts and, like, that kind of thing.
And we would submit to websites, our Lonely Island stuff that we were making.
This is before us now.
Before us at all, yeah.
And we had our own website that we, like, somehow finagled server space on, you know, to have to ruin it.
Right around broadband was starting to come in, right?
I don't know. Broadband, I heard, was starting to come in.
Yeah, it was perfect timing.
Yeah, and you got to keep, you know, they just eradicated measles.
but um we you know we heard of youtube and then like the next week put all our videos on
YouTube because we were like oh this is the best for you shove them on there yeah it finally
works you found the spot yeah you and I just want to get the pronunciations right it's Andy
by the way I said it my Andy's name your name was David I want to say listen to this thing
that's what someone told me look his name was Andy somebody told him now called him David
no his name was David and my brother's name was Andy and my brother's name is Andy
and my name's David
You can't make this
Yeah you could
You can make it out
Was the person who told you
Adam Sandberg
Last name Opedia
Yeah
It was
It was Wikipedia
It was printed out
But I know about you
I just didn't know that
That's a tip
That your bandmates
Are made great
Aviv
Akeva
Shafer
And Yorma
And Yorma Ticone
Geez talk about
Wikipedia
Over here
Tacomi
to Coney, yeah, with N's.
But it's his fault for having that name.
Like, people, yeah.
I was Dana Garnie for years, and no one ever got it right.
You were, what?
Dana Garnie.
He was on, who's up next to stand up?
Well, by the way.
Dan and Garnie.
I've been.
Oh, you must have been.
I'm Adam.
Everyone thinks I'm Adam because of Sandler.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You think, hey, Adam Sandberg.
Oh, right.
It's too close.
One time I was doing standup before I got SNL and someone literally introduced me as
Adam Sandler.
And everyone went,
and I walked out,
I was like, no, no, no, no.
That's not my name.
Is that, I'm so sorry.
I also like him.
I got here to.
This is David Bowie once.
I got introduced,
here's my one they mess up.
David Bowie.
I go to the improv a couple times a week
just to give them a little treat, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Give him a taste of the magic.
They go, what do you want to say?
And they go, I go, just say,
because the last movie on Netflix was the wrong missy.
Just say the wrong missy and some other shit.
And they go, got it.
And they go, this guy was in the right Matilda, the quiet.
And I go, why is that one so hard?
They say it wrong every single time.
You say it wrong too.
I came up during the Rough and Tumble Club days.
My biggest intro from Tony DePaul, the Holy City Zoo,
and I'm a nervous stand-up.
Here he is, Dana Garnie, the man who invented the blow job.
That was the first one.
And that was it.
And you're like, I didn't ask you to say that.
That's a great one.
I always say some people think he's funny.
I don't know about that.
You know, it was rough and tumble.
Yep, yeah, yeah.
They're trying to nag you on the way up.
40 cedar.
Then Rob Williams would come in.
I just want to play and you do like three hours.
I'm going back to Brooklyn.
I want to go back to...
No, listen to this Brooklyn 9-9 thing.
Because he got it for an Emmy.
I think you won an Emmy.
Mm-mm.
Two Golden Globes.
Who does his homework?
I got some Globies.
Back when that meant something, you know?
Sure.
Do you want to hear people say,
don't ever talk about yourself on the podcast,
Guess what?
So here's what's going to happen.
All right.
So I'm in the audience and they go, Golden Globe.
By the way, we were back in fucking Azusa.
You know, they keep the people from TV, the Golden Gloves on TV.
Tom Cruise is up front.
I'm on a third deck where I have to take two elevators to get to the stage.
They know I'm not going to win.
So, and a trolley.
So I'm back there and they go, but it was a harder supporting category.
It was against Don Sheedle.
It was against every supporting category on TV and movies.
What was the category?
Supporting in anything.
Oh, four-year show.
Yeah, for you just shooting.
So I'm up against Gregory Peck, John, Don Cheadle,
the guy's in ER, it's drama, comedy, everything.
So I can't, I already won because I just got that far.
Yeah, that's crazy.
They go, uh, uh, that's-huh.
Seriously, Gregory Peck, that's not a joke.
Yeah, he beat me, yeah.
He did 90 seconds in Moby Dick, and he goes, I can't believe I'm getting it.
I'm looking for 90s, I'm like, no fucking shit.
Gregory.
I slugged out 148 episode.
Anyway, and then at the Emmys, they go like this.
David Spade.
I'm Gregory Peck, sorry.
I just spot on.
As I know Peck, that sounds like that's, that's Peck.
Everyone listening is going, it's not close enough to an old person.
I met him once, so what happens?
So at the Emmys, they go like this.
This is supporting comedy and they go, David, Hyde Pierce.
And if you saw the slow motion of my shoulders go up and I went back down and then went for an applause.
And I was like, did anyone fucking see that false start?
Yes.
And it's like, everyone saw.
I do feel like, I like it when people react negatively when they don't win.
It's real.
I feel like you can do it and everyone will think it's funny, but also you can just be honest about that.
I would just mouth what the fuck.
Yeah, what the fuck!
At least you're doing something comedy.
How many times were you nominated?
You won twice.
I was, for Brooklyn Nine-I-N-I, that was the only nomination and win was the show and me that year, and then never again nominated.
That's weird.
Yes, politics.
Why were you bad after that?
I just didn't care.
As I forwarded.
Your nickname was phoned in on the set.
I just didn't care.
You won.
On the call sheet, it said phone did.
It just turned into a paycheck.
I was like, fuck this and everything about it.
Have you seen these shows like you noticed the Emmys?
Because they sort of lost a little bit over the years.
But let's say, it's still exciting.
So they win something.
And someone that wins on a show or a comedy,
And then the next year they get canceled.
And you go, that's a mind fuck.
Like you just won, you go, at least we have a little job security here.
You're talking about the show got canceled.
Like the show, yeah, you like somebody wins or the show wins, and then the show gets canceled.
And you go, what happened in that?
Like, I guess it wasn't good?
Right, you go, not only are we not up for one.
Now we're canceled one year later.
Do you think they like hide that Emmy in the closet and like shame it?
It's sad, yeah.
I would take it out on the end.
Oh, are you happy, Emmy?
You happy?
You got the Emmy curse.
You stay in there.
There's a little Nicholas Cage sneaking in there for your fans.
Oh, yeah.
We can talk plenty about that.
We can talk about that.
It's hard to go.
You have so much, but the cool thing is you did 152 episodes.
Your first kind of thing.
I do my homework.
I love it.
I went to state school.
I didn't know that I did 152 episodes.
I'm a Bay Area guy like you.
So I throw down for you.
But not anymore.
Do you still stay up there?
I have a house up there.
In what area?
We don't have to use this.
Marin County. Oh, I love Marin.
That's stunning.
What's the address?
My wife grew up there.
We could do a little childhood stuff for a sec.
So what town did you grow up in?
In Berkeley.
Oh.
You were so disappointed.
Love Berkeley.
You used to go to the track meets there.
My first stand-up set was on Telegraph Avenue at the Los Alamander at Cafe.
Oh, that rules.
Hippie.
He's all hating this.
So are you kind of raised like a hippie or just?
Yeah, a little bit.
A little bit.
How many kids?
Just you were the only one?
I have two older sisters.
Interesting.
Yeah.
Baby Andy.
Sandberg's got cool hair, which always infuriated me, but...
Do you think I do right now?
It's pretty cool still, yeah.
Oh, sick.
No, you have a good-looking dude, which...
You have hair, and you have a jaw.
Yeah.
I need a lot of work up here, and I...
Even Bert Lancaster told me, how can you be a movie star?
You've got no chin.
That was a quote from Bert Lancaster to me.
What is he gained by saying that to me?
Exactly.
He got mad.
Because I jumped out of my chair so he could sit in my chair.
He was 73.
Yeah.
And he's coming over.
I jumped out.
He thought I patronized him.
You motherfucker.
Where was this?
Jump out of a chair for me again.
This was tough guys.
Year before I got S&L, I played the parole officer with Bert Lancaster and Kirk Douglas.
Ah, okay.
But anyway.
You know, when I beat Greta Thumburg at the Emmys, she goes, how dare you?
Good one.
How dare you?
I swung back for that week joke.
Go ahead.
How dare you?
Who's going to be married to that woman?
How dare you not clean your plate?
How dare you?
We're on...
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Did you have it like an artistic childhood and was there stuff going on in the house
with your mom and dad or how did you and your eighth grade buddies get so into comedy?
We just were.
I don't know.
You just met these guys like soulmates, right?
Yeah, actually I like just found a letter I wrote myself.
It was like a third grade exercise when I was eight where they're like, you know, say,
write a letter to yourself what you think you'll be in 20.
years. My mom just sent this to me from the basement. And it was like, I'm going to be a famous
comedian and I'll be married and I'm going to have two kids. And I was just like, oh shit, it's all
exactly what happened. How cool. Wow. How old were you? Eight. I don't know why. Honestly,
it started not to blow smoke, but I used to sneak into the TV room in our house and watch the
Saturday night's main event, the WWF wrestling thing. And it was only on once a month. He wasn't on
And every other time it wasn't on, it was S&L.
So by accident, I started watching S&L because I was like, oh, it's not on, but what's this?
And it was right when it was your first cast, and that's when I got into the show.
So you were like, when I, 12 or something, or 10, 12?
I mean, I don't say I might have been like eight.
Fucking shit.
I kind of think.
Wow, that's cool.
I'm 44.
I'm glad it didn't fuck up.
So I didn't make you want to quit.
Like, that guy's such a big.
No, I was like, you can do this.
This is allowed.
I want to be like, that guy.
I'm pointing at you right.
right now for people, because you can't see us,
but I'm pointing right at you, Dana.
We can never forget that.
I mean, it'll hit me sometimes.
If you're up there in a costume on a stage
somewhere doing something, you go,
this is my job, really.
Also, somebody's watching.
I'm working. I mean, you guys probably grew up watching SNL.
It probably wasn't that different
from how it was for me and my...
For me to run into Dan Aykroyd at the show
was just nerve-wracking.
Yeah, and then he talks to you about his vodka
for like an hour and a half.
Yeah, well, you don't have to leave the show.
You talk about investing.
He was an investor early on.
It's insane to bump in.
Anyone from that original cast, it's crazy.
When they walk in your office,
you ever see you walk on the offices?
And Ackroyd came in, knock, knock.
All right, sir, fair enough, sir.
He's good about it, too.
Accroids is very like, I liked what you did.
It was very funny.
And you're like, holy shit, this is crazy.
Every time I run into him, it goes,
you know, the church lady was kind of, you know, sir,
it was sort of a perfect comic character.
If I see him at the 50th, I'm waiting for it.
I go, hey, Dan, what about the...
Do you go to the 40th?
I was at the 40th.
Yeah.
Fun, right.
I did a video with Sandler.
We did the thing about everyone breaking.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, they put it in Shikhan Alley, but it played well online.
Shikin' Alley.
First of all, that should be your next musical video, Shikin' Alley.
Do you mean you presented it from a bad spot on the stage?
No, no.
I did not make that up.
People used to talk about it at the table read if you were in the second half of the read
right in the middle of the second half that's chicane alley where nothing plays because everyone's
exhausted yeah and then once everyone knows there's one or two left they laugh again yeah it's not bad
to be the air but you and sandler it got on right of course it aired and it played well but it was like
people were partying already and drinking and walking around i think mike and i went on last didn't we
wainsworld were you dead last i thought we were dead last that's great we'll see but that's a good
spot then they're waking up going to close over i said we should be really angry or really
flattered. I said that to Mike right before he went out. I think probably a little both.
It worked out. You know it was interesting. I probably shouldn't say this.
Say anything you want to me or David. It was such a comedy room and people are so fucking like
SNL competitive that like the monologue opening thing was Timberlake and Fallon doing like
SNL through the years and it was like a full on crowd pleasing showstopper. Yeah. And half the room
was kind of like arms crossed like uh-huh
I was like
Jesus I don't want anything I do to air
in this room we're all wounded little clowns
if he does good then I don't do good
and everyone at home was like
this is the greatest thing I was doing
bye bye and Jane Curtin was yelling
fuck you to me from the front row
yeah take your own advice and
get out of all nice people
Jane Curtin was cool
she's wonderful
will you be at the 50th we ask everybody
if I'm invited I gotta go right
You're going to be invited.
You never know at this point.
I heard there's no plus ones.
That's always weird.
So my wife's not coming?
Wait, that won't go down well.
You know, you weren't at Vanity Fair the other night, right?
I didn't go because of the knee.
Oh, the knee.
I just want you to know I was invited, though.
Oh, yeah.
Dana, this Vanity Fair thing.
I should have bought fucking Dana.
Oh, I couldn't.
I was invited for 25 years, never went.
So finally they stopped inviting me.
Oh, God.
For people at home, they hear about that vanity fair party, like the Oscar party, right?
So there's one at Gaios after that, which is really fun.
And that's, at least I know him, so it's easier.
But Vanity Fair, it's not an audition, but you just hear when, oh, if you want to go to the Vanity Fair.
I always thought I was always invited.
And then one year I go, hey, I didn't hear about that vanity fair.
I think I want to go to that and bring my buddy.
And they go, it's just so tricky this year.
I'm like, oh, what does that mean?
They're like, I can't go.
And they're like, it's not that.
It's just that you can't right now.
And I'm like, so it is that.
And then, but they, for people listening,
You know, you see pictures of the Vanity Fair party, but it's a fun party, but they stagger you.
Yes.
So you either go like Apatow, I didn't know anyone, and I got no plus one.
And I said, I think I'm going to go.
I get home for my shows.
I just want to go, at least do something.
I can't stay all the wake until a guy's party, but I go, I'll just go to this one.
Oh, wait, what's my time?
Yes.
And so I got 9.30, which is pretty good.
930 is not bad.
This is all embarrassing, Dana.
It's the cool group in life.
It's cool kids.
And they go, you're right between Gigi Hadid and Harvey Weinstein.
They let him out, just they furloughed him.
He's there.
I'm like, this is the only thing you get out for?
It's cruel and unusual not to let that man go to that party.
So I go embarrassingly.
But 930 is not bad.
One year I got, I got midnight and no plus one.
I didn't go too embarrassing.
Now you've got fly on the wall, so it's a hit podcast.
Oh, they know.
This is, it's intense.
But back to our guest.
No, I want to tell him, because I want to say,
because he's done this, it's embarrassing.
That when you go and you go the, you know,
you get out by yourself and I say hit Apatau and I say,
are you there?
And he goes, oh, I got here at five.
I got five.
He went to, how did he sound?
Do it a head call?
He went to, how did he sound?
Just give a head call.
Everyone has a little Apatow.
You cop an attitude and just say the name.
You do that thing.
I'm dead Apatow.
How are you guys doing?
I'm dead apatow.
I thought I was pretty funny what you did.
That's very funny.
He does say that.
He does say that's funny a lot.
So anyway, I get there.
I get the press line.
All the, I hit right when all the models hit and they're all 50 feet tall.
And I go, can I just cut in front of you guys and just,
and they're like, is someone talking?
And so I go, I remember I went up to Jessica Alba.
I go, oh, I thought you were Nancy Pelosi.
That was my joke to her.
Yeah.
And she goes, fuck you.
And I go, no, she's right behind you.
And I go, because it's funny.
Because one time she kicked me in the ass at the Golden Gloves.
And she said, hey, fats.
And I turn around, I don't even know her.
Nancy Pelosi?
No, I know, I'm sorry, I know, I know.
That's funny.
And I fell for it.
Hey, Fats.
Could I do my name?
No, I saw Nancy Pelosi at Wendy's once.
No.
I tried to get you back.
Nancy.
Nancy Pelosi always looks like she just sat on something cold and wet.
That's a night.
Sorry, that's my Nancy Pelosi joke.
We'll finish this.
No, there's no story.
I was just saying it's embarrassing.
And I go to the, and I went there and, uh, I went there.
And that was it, I guess.
So, wait, why did Alba call you fats?
She did because she thought it was funny, and I thought it was funny.
Oh, okay.
If you really were fat, that would be insensitive.
Yeah, I just, no, I didn't care of this.
It was back in the dark angel days.
Oh, we're talking, oh, we're talking to dark angel in her, Alba?
Well, that's what I used to get to go to the golden clothes.
Oh, yeah. So this time, I was just getting her back because sometimes if I see her, she says something like that.
So you guys have kind of like a.
She was funny, yeah.
You have carpet rapport rapport.
It was nothing mean.
It was just being stupid.
Carpet rapport, you're right.
That is a thing that if you go to a lot of award shows and award show parties,
you do start having like award season friends that you only see at events.
And it's a very strange phenomenon.
We're like, hey!
And you never see them again.
You're never like, we should exchange numbers.
You want to hear something weird for 10 seconds?
Just see them at that.
I went in 91, I think, because of Wayne's World.
So I look over, I think it's Juliet Lewis.
We'll put it in late.
Hey, thanks, pretty on.
I said Juliet Lewis and Brad Pitt
I think it was her
And they were dating
I see them off the side
And I can see that they're
Talking to each other
Whether they should come over
And talk to me
Oh that's right
Like nervously coming over
And did they
Mm-hmm
I go we're just gonna leave now
And he goes
That's a good plan
Like that plan
Let's face it man
We're mama goddamn has been
Sorry once upon time in Hollywood
Yeah I've seen it
Oh yeah
That was Brad Pitt
You were in that right
Yeah neither
No
11 times.
What I'm interested in right now
about this podcast,
I'm interested in Andy and his buddies
they make their thing
and then they come to S&L
and your first boom
and then you did come up
with Lazy Sunday at S&L.
So how to walk me to that process.
You meet Lauren,
you tell him,
what was your first meeting
with Lauren or the writers?
What was that vibe?
Well, we got the show actually
because we were writing
on the MTV movies
movie words and Fallon hosted.
I do owe a great deal
to Fallon. He said, oh my God, what's up, man? I know, he's
awesome. I love him. I did him in my audition because I knew he did
Sandler and his, and it was very winky.
Oh, wow. What was your take on
it was Jimmy Fallon at a funeral? It was like, oh my God, so sad,
right? I'm so sad.
What a tragedy.
Anyway, here's the next album.
I just took him to the anthros.
But, yeah, he's...
But yes, he was great, and he was super great to us,
and we got some stuff in the show,
and he, and Higgins and Shoemaker were there
for people who don't know who were S&L producers
and a bunch of the writers,
and we kind of hit it off with everybody,
so they were like, you guys should audition.
So...
How did you audition?
Yeah, what do you do?
Were you Andy Sandberg, or with your buddies, or...
I did a solo, and I did...
I had been doing stand-up for, like,
five or six years, seven years?
Really?
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Where were you playing mostly?
Well, I started off.
I was going to NYU for a couple of years,
and I started doing just bringer shows in New York.
So, like, Seller and Boston Comedy Club
when it was called that and Gotham,
all those kinds of places.
And then I moved out here, and, like,
the best I ever got to was doing a couple of shows
here and there at the improv.
And then I did premium blend on Comedy Central.
That was kind of the high, high watermark for me,
the stand-up.
Okay.
But so I did some of that stuff.
And then they were like, but you need characters and impressions?
And I was like, I don't have.
You didn't really?
Not really.
We just made up a bunch of shit like the weeks leading up to it.
And those guys helped me, Keeve and Yorm.
And it went well.
So they said, you need to come back.
And then they also had Yom audition.
And Keeve did a meeting with Lorne.
And we all submitted a writing packet together.
All three writing.
And you got a feature performer?
Yeah.
And then they got hired as writers.
They're writers.
It was a crazy dream where all of a sudden.
How three you guys did get on is very...
Well, to come in with your buddies from eighth grade
and now we're all on Saturday Night Live.
And we had already been...
I mean, we'd known each other a long time,
so we had short hand and we trusted each other,
but it was also like we had been...
We had spent the last five years in L.A. making stuff.
So we had kind of a rhythm of what we were doing already.
And a TV show on YouTube, basically.
Kind of, yeah.
I mean, it didn't...
People didn't really know about it the same way they do now,
but it was the same thing in that we had gotten
a lot of the bad stuff.
out of our system.
You have to practice.
Well, the thing is, is that, and for young people today, it just, I say, well, just do a YouTube
channel, do this and that.
And then you get two views or five.
And then you're reading about someone else with, you know, Rihanna has $500 million.
And to keep yourself going.
You guys obviously just loved it, even though it wasn't getting tremendous traction.
No, it was also just a different time.
Like, YouTube really didn't exist yet when we were doing it.
So you didn't have that compare and despair thing.
For us, it was like, let's just make stuff until we feel like we're going.
good and it'll it'll work itself out one way or another but we never thought we'd get
SNL that was like my big only dream and I was just Fallon saw something I even went and like did
the groundlings like intro audition for the classes and stuff and just tanked it
I just wanted it too bad you know I was like my brain went a million different places
isn't that the tough part of show is try not to try because whenever you push it never works
and yet you want to be present it's trying to catch the wind it's always there
But isn't it great when you're in the pocket and you don't give a fuck?
Yeah.
Like by year, I don't know what year did you kind of go, I'm not nervous on stage.
I'm relaxed.
Was it right away?
No, no.
It took me like, I think, 80 shows.
I think it was probably by like your four or five.
Yeah.
It's once you feel like you're not going to get fired.
Yeah.
I think is truly it.
And then you get genuinely loose and then people relax because you're relaxed.
Did you get picked up every year where it was like pretty much on?
Because I had to go home in May and he wouldn't.
decide. Yeah, you guys had a crazy stretch. I had to check out in my apartment. I had to get out and
then... Well, because the old guys, my team didn't leave. I stayed until 93. So you, you overlap and
that was a reason. But once we all cleared out, I think David had a pretty hot two years.
Yeah. When you guys were all there at the same time, like the two different generations,
we were. And you look at it, it's so rare in the history of the show where you look at both
generations and
it's fucking stacked in both.
That's the craziest part to me about
when you guys were on it. 90 to 93.
I feel like that was the most
loaded because we had David and Farley
and Sandler and Chris Rock and they're
coming up and doing stuff. Adam's getting
the guitar. He's going. And then we
had Phil Hartman and myself and Mike Myers.
Yeah. That's a lot of people making shit that
like ended up on a T-shirt, you know?
Yeah. Well, we talked with Lorne about that and it was like
if it's a team, you know, you've got
This guy can start or this guy can start.
So we had tunes as the cat, even with Jack Han.
Throwing tuneses.
But, yeah, even just like throw in deep thoughts.
Yeah.
Which was a constant on the show and super funny.
That always was.
And Mike would throw down a sprockets and or Wayne's world.
You know, Sandler would do opera man.
You know, it got greatest hits every show practically.
But anyway, enough about that era.
This is called Dana and David.
No, I love.
So I want to hear, if we can, tactily.
You go in to Rockfeller Center.
Yes.
What are you feeling?
And do you have a private meeting with Lorne or with the three of you or what?
You mean when I got hired?
When you got hired, first time you went and talked to Lauren.
They had me and Bill fly out.
Bill Hader?
Yes, sorry, me and Bill Hader to fly out.
I'm told to meet with Lauren.
You audition twice.
They're interested.
They want you to come meet with Lauren.
Me and Bill sit next to each other on a flight from L.A. to New York.
Marcy Klein had already told him
that me and him got the show.
Oh, wow, cool.
No one told me and Bill, bless his heart,
pretended the entire flight that he didn't know
so he didn't be the one to tell me.
He wanted me to have my moment
where I got to actually find out.
That's nice.
So the whole, he makes fun of me now
because we're, you know, we talk all the time.
He's like, you were like,
oh man, I wonder if we're going to get it.
You're fucking idiot.
I knew.
But so we get there.
He goes in for his meeting,
which is just saying hi to Lauren
because he knows he's got the show.
Then I go in and I talk to Lauren,
you know, maybe 10 minutes
and it's Lauren, so he gives you nothing.
Mention's nothing about anything.
Was there anyone in the room?
No, just me and him.
He never stands up and leans over the table and goes,
congratulations, you've got the job.
Literally, I think he...
Are here...
It's not like a real...
It's not like a real...
Now, you must do a Lorne or a Lauren impression.
It doesn't matter how good it is.
It's not good, but it's basically him being like,
so do you think he'd be willing to cut your hair?
I'm like, willing to cut your hair?
It was really crazy long.
I was like, oh, yeah, I'll shave my head if you want, whatever you want.
I was like, on Coke.
But that's a very specific, my brain is fine.
And he goes, and you think you could do this?
You think you could live in York?
And I was like, oh, yeah, I've lived here before.
I lived here for two years recently.
He was like, okay, well, we're going to all go out to dinner, so you should come.
And I was like, okay.
And I walked out.
And I looked around and it was like, Jen and Shuckus were there.
And I was like, and they were like, so?
And I was like, I don't know.
Oh, what happened?
And they're like, you got it.
So they were the ones who told me.
But Lord never went like, we're hiring you.
Those words never came out.
I never heard that either.
Yeah.
I don't think he ever does.
Some lieutenant comes up.
Yes.
And I mean, he like fell on the floor.
So where did you go to dinner?
Do you remember?
And how many people were in that dinner?
Because that's kind of a big thing to be invited.
Orso was a big one for Tuesday night dinners when I was.
I remember wherever we went, it was in that theater district area.
and it was me and Bill and a few other people
and Conan was there at a different table
and they were like oh Conan you should meet
these are going to be two new cast members
and I was just like freaking the fuck out
like my life just got so cool
yeah it's a cool factor all over the place
well well if it's not shitty crappy and cruddy
oh yeah and being all tall too so tall
so alpha dominating
that's an animated show
shitty crappy guy right after the day
when you did impressions like
You said, like, I didn't really do impressions too many, but did they assign you one or say,
hey, can you play this?
Or did you do Marky Mark?
That one, all my impressions happened on accident.
Like, I think Emily Spivey and someone else were the first ones to be like, oh, we put you in
this thing as Nick Cage.
And I was like, I don't do Nick Cage.
But so I just worked on it and it ended up being something I found out that I could kind
of do.
And Walberg, I was doing some bit with Jonah Hill, actually.
We were hanging out in the summertime.
And he's like, you kind of sound like Mark Wahlberg right now.
and I was like, ooh, anything to get on the fucking show.
Yeah, so I tried.
I tried that, and I wrote it with Steele.
But say hello to your mother for me is the funniest thing to say.
Which character says that?
He does Walberg.
You were the donkey or something.
Yeah, he talks to animals.
That was Steele's idea.
But you found that rhythm of that hook.
Yeah, it's funny.
Like, obviously you're one of the greatest of all time at the impressions.
and, like, I'm close with people also who are, like, Whig and Fred and Bill.
I mean, it's a whole other skill set, and I've never considered myself good at it, but
there's, like, a few times in my life where I have found it, and I'm like, oh, this must be
what it's like for them all the time.
Like, it is really fun to do it.
And it becomes its own language, and it becomes its own character.
Well, that's the fun part.
It becomes a character.
So I know many, many incredibly accurate impressionists that aren't intrinsically funny.
yeah but since you're a comedian when you did it it was funny and also it was accurate enough that
it represented mark walber sure sure so it worked completely how many times did you do that it was
kind of a hit i think only twice really yeah you did it was you did it to mark walber well he came
on the show and to basically he did a whole thing where he was like i guess they had asked him about it
and he said something negative and then i think him and his team were like oh we don't want people
thinking I'm being too much of a bummer about this.
So he came on and like pretended like he was going to kick my ass.
And it was very pleasant.
It was totally fine.
It was the episode that Palin was on too.
It was a crazy episode.
Oh, big one.
That's a score.
Yeah, your time was pretty heady, you know?
Yeah.
That election year and your bandmate, so to speak.
Yeah.
It was interesting for us.
Every election, we were there for two election years, I think.
And our joke was always like, oh, well, we're not going to have anything on the show this year.
because it became so political
and we just didn't really engage with that
we just wanted to make goofy shit
but now I think for everyone who works there now
that's just every year
yeah it's nonstop politics you mean
like it always has to be like about something
and saying something and addressing what's happening
there's I think they have less opportunity
to just do kind of weird ideas
the world changed
yeah and it's probably going to change back
I mean, that's how it's historically happened.
I like acid humor the best.
I like silliness, the best, if I have to say, madness.
And coming full circle back to you.
So, Lazy Sunday and the Princess Narnia, like, are you writing that when it's coming together?
I'm just curious, like, that's your first S&L?
Is it the first one or not the first one?
Or the second one?
We had made one short that aired before that called Lettuce, which was...
No, I'm kidding.
Hey, come on.
Hey, David, that's kind of mean.
He's our guest.
What are you talking about?
No, he said that he's part of S&L, not a pre-SNO.
No, it aired on S&L.
It was a Will Forty idea that we did with him, and we shot it on like a home camera, and it aired.
And we were like, holy shit, that aired.
And then Lazy Sunday was the second one that aired.
But that wasn't until the Christmas episode of our first season.
Did you show it to Lauren when you got...
it completely finished.
No, I think the first time he saw it, I think, was a dress.
And I assume you guys knew you had a hit with that.
No, no.
It felt irresistible to me.
Once it aired, we were like, oh, shit, this is, I think people really liked it, you know.
The crowd liked it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a new feeling.
And, you know, you came out real hot.
I don't really remember your beginning part, but I just remember knowing that you were there and you were good.
No, it was worked in, warmed in over time.
We were, we had been there up till Christmas at to that point, you know, and we hadn't, we had gotten stuff on and we were getting along with everybody, but we weren't like, we're killing this.
You know, yeah, so for us, it was still the mentality of, oh, it's going to air.
Like, it was that, it was still that early.
Yeah, you know, I think it's going to air.
And then the crazy thing that happened with Lazy Sunday was what you brought up was it all of a sudden became a news item.
because everyone was like, there's a website called YouTube.
And then every article about it was a picture of me and Parnell.
Yes, you kind of represented YouTube.
When you do this, do you say, does Shoemaker or someone say,
you should put a cast member in it with you?
Or is that your idea?
What do you mean?
Like it's you and Parnell.
Oh, yeah.
Well, in the beginning, like, Keev and Yorm shot one.
That was an idea that we all had when I was in L.A.
for an off week taking generals.
Yeah.
Time well spent.
Take those generals.
General's general meeting.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, you're just generals now?
Yeah.
They came back and they had made something and I was like, oh shit, it's that idea.
It's so funny.
And we showed it to Shoemaker and Higgins and they were like, you guys just went and made this?
We're like, yeah.
And they were like, do stuff like this for the show, but put the cast in it.
That was literally what they said.
Yeah.
And so.
They'd say put the cast from it because you're too new.
So did Parna, did you have to coach him at all?
because, like, if someone cast me in that,
I don't know how you,
you're double tracking to get,
because it sounds like real rap,
all your stuff does to me.
Like, yeah.
So do you double track?
You put effects on.
It just has this muscularity.
Yeah.
I mean, we had been making songs for fun,
and we had shot a few music videos for them.
That was like something we had sort of started doing
before us and L.
And we're like, oh, yeah,
we could try a song here.
That might be fun.
And we knew Parnell, quote, unquote,
quote,
rapped or fracked,
fracked as we call it,
fake rapping,
because he used to do it on update.
Like,
he did a thing,
I think,
like,
Britney Spears one week
was the musical guest
and he, like,
did a rap
dedicated to Britney Spears
that we thought
was super funny.
What a score for him
to be in that, though.
Yeah,
but it was also awesome for us
because he was fucking hilarious.
Yeah,
like, as soon as it starts,
you're like,
oh my God,
Parnell is so in.
He dedicates his brain to it.
Like,
him and Forte both have that weird,
like,
Gene.
of a performer where, like, they will never break no matter what.
Like, they're so in it.
They're really serious.
And, like, there's like a slight psychosis to it that makes you laugh so hard
because you can tell they're actually lunatics deep down and you love it.
There's something a little different.
Yes.
Yes.
Forte had his own lane.
He did some brilliant.
Yes.
Just only he could do.
I would say he probably of everyone, and this is saying a lot because I loved almost everyone I worked with there.
at the table, he was the person
I was always the most excited
to see what he was going to do
because it was always so weird.
He was so weird.
Yeah.
I remember the potato chip one
when he came in the whole time.
I told him about that and he goes,
you saw the potato chip one?
I just watched it one night on television.
I go, yeah, I was, you know, comedians,
we know where all the tricks are,
but, you know, to get surprised
by another comedian and the commitment.
Then you have to just commit, but...
And you give Lauren credit
for seeing a weird,
bit and it even bombs miserably and he goes put it on yeah and it takes balls to go we're
teaching the audience this is funny we're not saying oh it didn't do as good you know you just go no
this is what should be out there has that gear uh can i winsworld story yeah when i i sometimes do
stuff that i don't explain so anyway i was doing garst making a mechanical hand hope you've seen
the movie but in my in my mind the mechanical hand is going to strangle rob low yes so roblo
comes in before it's finished so then I beat
the shit out of it. So it's laying there at the previews
and I kind of liked it because it was my
shtick but I'm like, okay, I get it if you guys want to
and Lauren's like it's one of those things
you know like 20 years from now you're like
glad it's just there. Yeah.
So Lauren does have that quirky side to him.
Isn't that we fear change? It's that moment right? Yeah.
We fear change. I know the film. God, I love that.
What about? How do you react
to people coming up to you
the way you would have come up to someone else, you know?
Like, to come up to you guys?
I can't believe I'm me, Andy, Samberg, you know, at the airport or whatever, and they're usually very sweet and stuff.
It's an out-of-body experience, isn't it?
It's trippy.
I mean, the first time it happens, you're like, fucking I did it, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
And then, I don't know, I always just think about, and I truly, like, you guys are on this list.
When I was a teenager or in my early 20s, if I saw someone.
from S&L in real life, I would lose my shit.
So I try to always remember that I felt like that.
And the idea that somebody could feel that way about me is super exciting.
I never quite hit you the same way, though.
Like when I see Ackroyd or I saw Dana or those guys, it's never the same as when people
see me and I go, that's not that exciting when they saw me, but I go, I see these guys.
You know what I mean?
You got to remember like when it's whatever there's, everyone says this about S&L, right?
It's like when kids and teens are a certain age, that cast.
you're in that pocket
is their cast
and it means way more to them
than even the original cast
which feels impossible to us
movies too
when you grew up on movies
yeah
you see an act right after
Blues Brothers and shit
and you go
yeah
oh my God
but dude
Wayne's World and Tommy Boy
are those for me
way more than Blues Brothers
nothing against Blues Brothers
it's just those are my ears
where I was like
holy shit
I can't believe
that they're getting to do this
and I
it makes me feel like
I have a place on earth
like literally
because you want to do that stuff
yeah
and I still quote those
movies like every week.
Yeah, that's nice.
You can be you remember, we fear change.
Yeah, dude.
Did Garth say that?
Garth said that.
We fear change.
We fear change.
And that,
what about this pop star movie?
Oh, yeah.
I think I told that whole Vanity Fair story because Beaver was there.
I think that's what I was leading up to.
Is that right?
And he was wearing a blanket.
Remember that?
He's wearing a poncho.
Did you see that?
I wasn't there.
Let's look at a clip.
Let's go to the phones.
Bieber, but it wasn't really a Bieber parody, but they marketed it.
I like Beaver parody.
I like Beaver as well.
And we met him a bunch of times at S&L.
I'll say this.
Super talent.
I mean, obviously in that moment, it was like he was one of the biggest pop stars in the world.
Of course.
He still is.
So we're making a movie about that world.
So there are definitely jokes in it that are inspired by him.
Sure.
And you exaggerate a situation like he's a big pop star.
What's the funniest version of everything doesn't mean it's about Bieber.
Correct.
It's about.
But there's also a lot of stuff about a lot of other people.
people in it too. And then a lot of stuff we just kind of made up. Yeah. I will say this. Judd,
who bless his heart, is the reason we got to make that movie. Oh, that's right.
Fully produced it, fully ushered it, told us like, hey, if you guys wanted to make a movie like
that, I'll produce it and just gave us basically a free pass to make a movie. I think he was
in line with Universal more about making the marketing feel a little more Bieber leaning. And we were
like, this is Judd. He doesn't fucking miss. So whatever you guys want to do. And then we
ate shit at the box office
ate a whole big pile of shit
on a movie that's
that is funny though
that's a very colorful way to put it
I've been in a couple of stinkers
I'll tell you what it wasn't because
it was the marketing or the Bieber stuff
it was just like people didn't want to go to the theater
but also but now hasn't it
reference it still sorry isn't it kind of a cult film
in a way is it like the people who are going to love it
are going to be quoting it
and possessed by it I'm assuming
I mean most of my favorite comedies didn't do well
in theaters most
Wayne's World obviously is an exception
and you know
there's exceptions
there's Anchorman which I'm
is one of our all-time favorites
that did really well
but generally speaking
you know
like we were kind of like
riding spinal taps
coattails and when it came out
I just kept reading stuff about
how when Spinal Tap came out
it was in like six theaters or something
yeah
there was like wet hot American summer
there's a bunch of ones in Spinal Tap
and that's right
geez you know my whole
you were in Spinal Tap
Andy Sandberg is interviewing me today
and we're having a...
I was in Spinal Tap
The Mime Waiter with Billy Crystal.
That's right.
It's super fun.
Oh, wow.
How fun.
But to me, that movie was, to your point,
that was sort of like,
God, you can make a movie like that.
It's like the first mock documentary
that I'd seen is like,
this is so cool.
It's one high.
What's...
Have you watched that movie anytime recently?
Maybe not in the last couple years.
It's crazy how well it holds up.
Like, just the pace.
of it, and it doesn't seem like it's
rushing at all. They're not pushing, yeah, yeah.
But it doesn't waste a second of your time.
Like, it's just like, type it, type it, type it.
Every joke is funny, and they get out.
And it moves and the story makes sense,
and you actually kind of care in the end.
We did.
Paulik and I talked like Christopher Gass for like three years.
Yeah, every time we talked. And we actually played
Blackjack at Harris. We were playing.
And we just did a guy, we told it like this.
Yeah. I'll give you, I'm supposed to take your call.
And you want me to take a call.
And try to do it is real enough that they may be.
believe it?
When I did
cone heads
put the applause
Thank you
With Michael McKeon
I'd ask him
on spinal tap
And con heads
after, you know
came out
was probably better
than spinal tap
anyway
cone heads was
great
yeah
cone heads had
so many
funny people
in it
and never just
jelled perfectly
well I love
anything
where they're called
cone heads
in their heads
look like cones
I always like
the nail on
the head
maybe it was too
on the money
I audition
for spinal tap
that you might
find this
interesting
I came into Rob Reiner and the whole cast.
You did?
Yeah, to play the drummer or something.
Great.
And then I go, I go, this is nerve-wracking.
You guys are all friends, and I'm just walking in here.
And so they all go, oh, we get that.
They all just immediately left the room.
They just got out of the room.
I'm waiting there in five minutes, and they come back in.
They go, oh, we're a little nervous.
How long have you been in here?
But I think they felt sorry for me, so they gave me the mime thing.
That's nice.
This guy was in grown-ups, too.
Was I?
ever.
The cheerleader
scene, which was a
hysterical.
That was a fun day.
That was a great thing
to use guys like you
where not to waste your time.
It was like one bit funny
and get out.
I mean, yeah,
that's the thing too
that I know you know
about once Sandler likes you
and puts you in stuff,
he'll be like,
just come do a thing.
You're like, okay.
We'll figure out later.
Yeah.
He has a very sweet whispering thing.
He has a very sweet whispering thing.
And you'll be like,
and you'll be like,
Like with a bunch of sides on you and stuff.
You're going to be so funny.
There he is.
Adam has a lot of...
The best.
Yeah, the best.
A lot of rhythms to him.
So we should...
He's in hotel translating.
We should talk about some of these monster things.
You were in the fourth one, right?
Yes, Andy.
Yeah.
Were you?
Yeah.
Was Selena?
Yeah.
Oh, Adam wasn't.
Correct.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
You were in four.
We've been in four together.
You've been in the...
I was in two.
Trenches of a photo.
By the way, that is, like, the true, like, business joy of when Sandler likes you.
Oh, my God.
He called me after, we did, that's my boy, and he called me after that.
I was like, hey, we're doing this animated thing, and there's a goofy guy.
He's the only human.
You're going to be that guy.
And I was like, okay, thanks, Sandman.
And then, like, four movies later.
It pays off.
Yeah, I'm just like, okay.
I have a story about that, Dana, but it involves Andy, unfortunately.
Okay.
You have the floor.
Hotel Transylvania.
So do you remember this?
The first table read at Sony.
Yeah.
And Amy Pascal was there.
Yeah.
And it wasn't Selena.
Who was Mavis?
I truly have no idea.
Miley Cyrus.
Whoa, really?
And she was a half hour late.
And it was me, Sandler.
Everyone was there waiting.
Yeah.
And they're like, and it was dead silent.
Because, you know, Amy is the president of Sony.
Comes in.
Okay, we got a call.
She's on the 405.
off at Sautel.
Everyone's like,
Sautel.
She's still not here.
And it was like,
she comes on,
hey, sorry.
And then I sits down,
rightful to the script,
like,
I don't know if it's a cold read.
I was like,
first of all,
I love Miley Cyrus.
First of all,
she's a great singer.
She's unbelievable.
I just saw her do
like a prayer live
with her cowboy on.
She's a great singer.
This was just an off thing
because she did the table read
and the movie obviously
went fine
if they got Selena.
I don't remember that.
Right after.
That's so weird.
I don't know if Miley decided not to do it or it just was not a perfect fit.
But Selena is obviously unbelievable and great.
And she was.
Yeah.
I only met her twice along the way because we don't do that much.
You know, we don't shoot them all together.
I mean, we've never been in the room with her for anything but press.
I know, we did press.
Yeah.
We do all the press together.
And it's like, hey, this is fun.
Yeah.
This is a bunch of nice people.
Cancun.
Didn't we go somewhere before?
Yes.
Dude, that was crazy.
The Sony, like, retreat.
Uh-huh.
that was nuts.
And then my wife and I were like,
oh, we're going to go to Tulum.
Yeah, we're already here.
Yeah, you're in Mexico.
Go ahead, Dana.
Oh, I just wanted to,
because I know we have our producer,
Craig Holson,
gave us a list.
A super fan,
the huge, obviously,
dig in a box.
We can't get through all of them,
you know,
but dick in a box with Justin.
Also, dancing with Beyonce.
Oh, yeah,
with Bobby Moynihan.
Single age.
So if you want to talk about those quickly,
I mean,
digging a box.
Do you have to go to Beyonce or does Marcy or does someone go to her?
We wrote it.
Me and Bobby, I think.
I might be getting that wrong, but I think that was it.
And I think we knew Justin was around and could do it.
And then I think it was Justin that went and talked to Beyonce about it because we were like, well, he's very famous and she's very famous.
So that would probably go better.
She'll see his DM.
And also, like, it's him being like, I'm going to be an elitard, like, we're celebrating you, whatever it is.
But she was delightful.
She's such a sweet, wonderful person in my limited interaction with her.
But that one was fun because we just were like, there's no way people are going to be mad at this.
It's too funny.
It's great.
She rolls with it and it's all and having her in it.
Yes.
And then that's probably a blow up on video.
Also, her doing that song, like her performance of that song, that night on the show is one of the most incredible performances.
It's hard.
I mean.
Yes.
And they're in like giant heels and just fucking destroying.
Like her and Prince, I think, are the two people in my time there where I was like, I don't understand what's happening right now.
It's so impressive.
She seems like a very hard worker from like early age of like busting up and gives 100% in every performance.
She's a killer.
That song Check on it.
She has so many words in it.
There's a couple songs where I go,
how does she...
I mean, to do a whole concert,
and she has so much to do
and dance and sing and costume.
Her last album was incredible.
And everyone's in love with her.
Yeah.
And then, you know,
Dicking a Box...
Beyonce, if you'd ever like to come on the podcast,
I guess, I mean, you're always welcome.
Obviously, everyone likes you here.
Go ahead, yeah, Dick in a Box.
You know, it was fine.
We just kind of threw it together.
Any problems with...
That was the first one that went kind of sexual or art,
right?
Or that hard, because Dick and a Box.
was like on the edge, right?
Did censor people give you any...
We did the one with Natalie Portman at the end of the...
Mother lovers?
...of the previous year and it was filthy, but it was all bleeped.
But that was all her.
Oh, it was all bleeped.
That was all her.
People really like that one too.
What was that one?
It was, um, it was just her rapping real filthy.
Basically, she, she, like, loved Lil Kim and told us she wanted to do one and we were like, okay.
How great.
Yeah.
And you bleeped all the, all the words out.
Uh, yeah, a lot of bleeps.
I mean, that was the fun of getting to do so much pre-taped as we ended up.
There was not a lot of bleeps before us, I don't think.
When you do dick in a box to the audience, it says dick in a box.
No, I think it was bleeped in the room.
Oh, no, really?
Even for the...
Because it's live.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So what part is bleeped?
The word dick.
Yeah, Dana.
Yeah.
So you can't say dick, okay.
You can say box.
Well, couldn't they have just bleaked box.
Interesting you bring this up though, Dana.
Dick and you wouldn't know what it meant.
It could be Dick Wilson.
Could be dick in your pants like a medical thing.
Two things.
Two things about the bleeps.
We were told that because it was bleeped, people thought it was cock.
Cog in a box.
Even dirtier, really, right?
Yes.
And it sounds much worse musically.
And then a few years later, we aired the song, Jizz in my pants with no bleeps and no anything.
What's Jiz?
I don't know.
I still don't know.
I'm told someday I'll.
I'm told someday I'll find out.
But that one, it had to air after 1215 or something.
Like, it was like at the very end of the show.
Huh.
And I think whoever was running NBC at the time was maybe like Jeff Zucker or somebody
came down to the show and like they had a whole conversation about it.
Interesting.
Basically, we brought it in because we had already started doing albums at that point.
It was from our first album.
And we were like, hey, we have this video.
Maybe we could just play it a dress and see how it goes.
And then it was like, ooh, it went well.
And Lauren was like, so we should air it.
And they're like, but can we?
And we're like, we have a censored version, which does exist where instead of jizz you,
he just hear variations of us going, mm-hmm.
It's a lot sillier, but not as funny.
You could have a dick in a box and also jizz in the box.
You could.
With the dick.
Say more about that.
Well, I'm going to show you a chart how that could work.
Your odds, babe.
Where would you hold the box?
It depends on your age.
Dick in a box was revolutionary, but also.
I'm on a boat is so dry and silly.
It is dry as a boat.
There's nothing to it but that one idea.
What are you doing on the boat?
I'm on a boat.
I told you.
People being on boats.
Just being on boats.
There were a lot of videos at that time where the concept of the video was just they were on a boat and they were doing their song.
Rich and we're doing good.
Yeah, yeah.
Tea Payne was a great addition.
It's always fun when you just throw someone in that out of the blue, I think you pay.
hand over to him at the beginning, like you go down the line.
That's a laugh.
And then...
Yeah, that's like an old, almost like Marks Brothers style reveal.
Yeah.
It's hard to get people.
We were trying to get people of stuff back in the show.
And, you know, they don't know to the last minute.
Unless it's Geraldo Rivera, they're not coming.
Oh, my God.
I mean, especially once you start going into the music world, like, they're on their own
schedule.
Everybody in music does whatever they feel like.
So, what about Steve Martin?
And he goes, what about Geraldo Rivera?
And he goes, he's circling the building.
Anytime you say would he do it
He's circling the building
That was the one
I've stolen that one
What about Heraldo
Heraldo is the one
That was always circling
That we can always get
Warren will do that sometimes
Or he's just like
So-and-so is here
So put them in it
And you're like
Steve's coming
Yeah
We did a laser cats
And it opens with him
Having dinner with Senator Dodd
Oh wow
And we were like yeah
That was definitely
Who we were thinking
For this
Senator Dodd
Yeah he was around
I think Chris Farley
He picked him up and threw him around at a party.
He had Steve come in a Hollywood minute and stand behind me and just listen to it and drink, sip a drink.
Oh, my God.
And he goes, I want to drink and I want to sip it with a straw.
And we're like, okay?
And then he just stood behind me.
Steve Martin, my fucking hero.
Did he say anything after?
At the end, he goes, I did a joke about him.
I go, he's in a new movie where he thinks he's cool.
Hey, I have my shirt open.
I'm Matt Dillon.
And then he's standing behind me.
And then he taps me.
And I go, oh.
And then he tells me to leave
And then he sits down and does some jokes
And are they about you or just whatever
He made fun of me, yeah, yeah, yeah
You gotta, that's the deal
I had a sense of humor about yourself
I sort of embarrassed because I didn't love it
Thanks, Andy
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All right, give something else to him.
Give him another compliment.
I read that you especially had a fond heart for a great day.
I do.
I do love a great day.
This is a pretty cool video.
It has pathos.
It's funny.
You know, because you won't have a great day,
but he's got Coke all over us.
Yeah.
My own works.
Thank you for bringing up.
my own works.
I do,
I am proud of that one.
It came together nice.
Yeah.
I think it has a,
well,
it steps outside
all the other ones.
It's just so different.
That was the neighborhood
and it's all beautiful.
Yes.
And it's a different kind of
song for us.
It was more musical style.
We shot down on
Commerce,
which is like my favorite street
in Manhattan.
Made it utopian.
Yes.
In front of the Cherry Lane Theater.
Mm-hmm.
We've shot there a few times.
We shot this Akhmuddinajad one
with Fred down there too.
I love that street.
Anyway.
Wait,
And I forget to ask about Digman.
Oh, yeah, that's my show.
Digman is a show.
By the way, I saw a billboard for it on my way over.
It's huge.
I saw it too.
I was super, I was like, hey, it's real.
I was thinking of the voice you did it.
I rolled down my window and said, interviewing him.
Yeah.
Interviewing him.
And me, I was like, please fucking let Dana have seen this.
Dude, Billboards are all the matters.
Is it out already?
Are we promoting it?
March 22.
Okay.
I think it comes out right then.
So, yes.
We'll be out.
We'll be out.
That's today.
Digman is available because so hard to find.
shit on
it's today
no but where do you get it
oh comedy central
comedy central
I know
old school
hey Samberg
Samberg
it's the 90s
but we're on after
South Park
so it's the best slot
you get
oh the best slot in history
is that's your South Park
yeah that's good
oh this is South Park guy
hi how are you
I just shit my pants
I'm sorry this kid just fucked me in the ass
I'm like god is this a real show
I can't believe
when they get away when I see those clips
on Instagram I go
this is from a real show
or is it just a clip they made up
because it's so fucking filthy
I like it in my ass
Hey guys
South Park guys
Trey and Matt
and Matt
if you guys ever want to come on the podcast
Beyonce is going to be here
what if they all want to come the same day though
Andy will come back
no Digman
so I just watched it last night
Did you? Oh yeah
Oh awesome
They got it to me
Yeah, what's the...
Digman, it's an...
He's an archaeologist.
Yeah, he's an archaeologist.
They call him Archaeos.
It's a show set in a world where archaeologists are the biggest celebrities in the world.
So, like, there's like a Met Gala, but it's the Archie Gala.
And everyone's wondering, like, what museum they're going to be hired by.
And it's super silly.
I made it with my buddy Neil Campbell, who wrote on Brooklyn 9-9 and comedy bang and stuff.
And I've been working on it for fucking two and a half years.
It is.
How many episodes did it take so long?
First season's eight
and we're hoping
there'll be another one.
Yeah, it was funny.
I just watched it last night
and there's an assistant
archaeologist.
Yes, Mieter Jihari
who's super funny.
Oh, okay, I was wondering
who that was, yeah.
Do you need any,
yeah, if there's a season two,
do you need any guest voices?
Are you, would you guys want to do it?
Yeah, yeah.
And we've got motherfucking
Emperor's no groove right here.
All right.
I was thinking, I can do two things.
He knows his way around animation.
I can do a llama or an invisible man.
Okay, first of Lama, I think that sounds the same.
Well, let's hear the Lama.
No, because they all say, the Lama is, look at me and my bad self.
Uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, no touchy, yeah.
That was one that was a raffy.
That's a funny movie.
That was a great one.
That was a great con.
Yeah, you and Warburton.
Come on.
Come on solid barhogany.
The poison, goose goes poison, the poison.
He and God damn, Earth a Kitt playing Isma.
We're so hilarious.
Yeah.
Have you seen that movie?
Yeah, Dana wake up.
It's just like shockingly funny, isn't I couldn't?
Well, what year did it come out?
It took me three years.
90s, right?
Three years to shoot it.
Oh.
It's so hard.
It was mocap?
Say it again?
Motion capture?
I don't know if it was mocap.
Did you get it through a general?
Did you do a general when you got it?
Did he get it through a general?
I snagged it through a general.
I had a general meetings are where you go in and they tell you're good and then nothing
ever happens.
Correct.
I had one a couple weeks ago.
They wanted to, they just want to, they just want to hang out.
Did you like to play twins?
You should be
You should be in movies
You have both guys in the scene
It writes itself
How would you like to clumps it
The clumps but more clumps
The white clumps
And that's like the Eddie Murphy movie
It's called clumps it
We got this we all call it
When you're more than one part
You're clumps in it
See what they do is they cut tape
They let him do four hours
Of the makeup change
Then they start the camera again
It's like magic
Once he did it
It kind of should have been retired
I think
Because that was then
You're just like
How is this possible
No one understood
How can he possibly?
One guy's Arsenio sometimes
That's true
I don't think that's how it's pronounced
One of the movies is it
Coming to America
Just came to me
Oh yeah
Wait so Emperor's New Groove
I'll play llama and you're
But the show Digman is
It is funny as shit
I was just watching last night
Thank you
It's Andy Sandberg
Come on
So yeah and he's got
Well that's the
I mean not everything
You have a brand
Not everything you ever do
Is like
We're going hard funny
But this one is that
It's just jokes
We're trying to do as much
And it's a good story
Is it PG-13 or soft-ar?
It was kind of rough.
It's a little, it's, there's a bleeps.
Do you have all that stuff on there?
Everything's in, but when it airs on network, it'll be bleeped.
The fucks will be bleeped, and everything else can air.
What is that network mean Comedy Central?
Yeah.
Oh, because they've got a few in there, but it's not overdone.
No, no, no.
We try to sort of parse them out.
No, it's clever, but a couple times I go, oh, it's a bad word.
Yeah, it's not soft.
Nasty.
But that was kind of the idea
Like we worked together
You know on Brooklyn
Thanks
And we loved making Brooklyn
But it's NBC
So there were plenty of times
We were like
We were like
Just want to make a show
Where we don't have to cut
Just something borderline gets killed
I've done that before
And you go
This isn't even
We got to compete out there
Exactly
Exactly
It's very hard to argue
Because you're like
Who's gonna care
Yes
Our hope is that we made
Something that people
In comedy will like it
They say
That the half hour show
Network show is kind of the best schedule for a human being.
Well, yours was even...
Mine was harder. Mine was harder than his. He did it live.
Right. You were 17 hours a week, right? About 16-5.
And once it's like a hit and everyone knows their parts too and no one's stressed, you just show up, smash.
The audience is there to love it. Oh, yeah. And you were a single camera, so...
Will and Grace got down to a science four-day weeks, three-day weeks.
You know, I worked at Radford as a PA. Oh, you did? I worked on Spin City.
Oh, really?
I can't believe that. Get out of here, Sarge.
Sorry, he does.
Oh, you guys, what are we doing here exactly?
It's a soft Casey Kasem.
Got to give me a minute here, sir.
Come on, Sarge.
Give me a minute.
I'm Casey Kasch and playing Michael Fox.
In what, Prisoners of War or something?
Casualties of War.
The worst one to do an impression of no one's thought.
But you're doing it with John Penn.
Yeah.
What are we doing?
We're going to get this VC Gook Horre.
Get a tattoo.
Hey, come on, guys.
Get a tattoo.
I know it all.
Hey, come on, guys.
It's Casey Cashian, basically.
Is it really?
It's a little lower.
No, it's different.
But your case is good.
But you just take it back a little bit.
Come on, Sarge.
Don't make the audience think it's easy.
Audience.
It's not dissimilar.
You got to go on your tiptoes, open your eyes with.
I'm, hey, Doc, this is.
Oh, my God, I love him.
You're at home now.
By the way, when I was there, though, it was Charlie Sheen.
That's actually very good.
It was Charlie Sheen.
It was post Fox.
So it was a different.
Oh, Spin City.
Yeah.
Yes.
Did you do?
the sketch Hookers and Blow
with Charlie Sheen.
Did I do that?
Yeah, were you in it?
I don't think I was in that.
That was Matt Piedmont wrote that.
It was a body shop
called Hookers and Blow, spelled differently.
And it was Charlie Sheen was the pitchman.
Oh, my God.
And it aired?
Yeah.
Who played Charlie Sheen?
He did.
Oh, he did it himself.
Got it, got it, got it.
Well, good for him.
Yeah, by the way, Hot Chots.
Really good.
Hot Chats is funny.
It's really funny.
All right, what's your wrap up?
Blizzard Man or Shy Ronnie.
It's like a little game.
Shai Rani, you got to do with Rihanna.
That was the shit.
Fuck.
She's the coolest.
Yeah, that was kind of one of the sillier things.
The cool thing about her.
And her doing it is unbelievable.
Her doing it, but now whenever I see her, which is not often, she sees me and she goes,
Shai Rani!
Oh, cute.
Like, I don't know if she knows my name, but I'm happy with what I get.
Unreal.
You got everyone loves, everyone's love with Rihanna.
Damn.
Good job.
I'm jealous.
All right.
What else?
Should we talk about the Oscars?
I don't know.
fill in the blanks it's a new game we have
and you can always say pass
okay
Lord Michaels is
my dad
I thought that's what everyone would say
he is kind of everybody's dad
he is kind of everybody's dad
he's 13 months older than me
but he's like
one time I was
I had been doing pretty well
after a couple years and I like did the bit
you know where you like do
where you force it and you make your hands touch
he was reaching for his popcorn
Oh, my God.
And you're like a meat cute kind of thing.
And I was like, oh, look at that.
He was like, slapped my hand.
He went, but I am not your friend.
That's right.
And I was like, okay, yeah, sorry, sorry, Lauren, sir.
Yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry.
I like Lauren says anything like that.
Do you remember any Laurenisms?
And we always do this on the show.
I mean, he does.
The value of water.
Everyone knows that one.
Yeah, I mean, he always starts things.
It's that thing, you know, because it's like that thing.
And like.
Yeah.
It's like, you know, it'd be better.
If it was, like, funny, it'd be like a really, really good show.
It helps if it was good.
This is the last, we have two weeks off.
It would help if it was good note, rather a low note.
You know, I know that that's all designed to relax us.
Emily Spivey, I don't know if you guys know her, she was a writer for a very long time on the show.
She used to do a bit in the rewrite table where...
Is it going to be R-rated?
No, not R-rated.
where the phone would ring
or she'd pretend the phone ring
and she'd pick it up and she'd go, hello.
Oh, hey, Lorne.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, I know.
I worked really hard on it.
I love you too.
Like basically act like he was calling
to give her tons of compliments
because he never gives them anybody.
He'll always compliment
not when you're really killing a big thing
but like some exit
or when you have one line and some cowboys get.
By the way,
the one time he ever said something
overtly nice about something I did
in front of everybody.
It was a great day.
It was the meeting between dress and air.
He was like, can we like cut out of that a little faster?
Very funny, by the way.
And I was just like,
it melted to a puddle.
And I was like, God, why does he have so much power over us?
I know.
You fucking love it.
I'll never forget.
Well, you know, he's seen everybody.
Exactly.
He's seen every American sketch player and every...
He knows every move.
He knows every move.
somewhat equal to all those people that have been there before.
Yes.
Believe me, Andy Semberg was a very, very valuable player.
All right, Andy, I got to go.
I can't answer any of my own questions anymore.
About you that I answer them.
Okay, fair, fair, fair.
Fill in the blank.
I'm really bug by...
Bugs.
Yeah, that's the right answer.
My dream job is...
I have it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Positivity.
It's not a big...
bit. Like, I can't believe it.
It's like we were talking about.
Okay, finish a sentence. I did a Corona
commercial with.
Snoop.
Yeah, Snoop dog.
I'll tell you one thing about those commercials.
When you do them, you're like, oh, it's fucking Snoop.
These are funny. This is going to be great.
And then you don't realize they're going to air them seven billion times and like
make people hate you.
Even if they like it the first hundred times.
But that's, I guess that's, I should have known.
They're well known.
What was your money's worse?
There was always a little thing right at the end.
You're with him, and then there's something right at the end.
You do a little eyebrow thing or something.
I'm sure I've seen it.
Well, I did a few of them.
Yeah.
There's more coming, by the way.
Oh, no.
I know.
I sold out.
God damn it.
I took the checky.
No, Andy.
I turned out so many commercials in the 90s.
I regret it to this day.
Did you?
Getting commerce now is cool.
Ryan Reynolds just made 200 million of some gin product.
He makes so much money.
Yeah.
There's nothing.
There's nothing wrong with that.
All that means is freedom to do what you want.
It is annoying that he's making.
making so much money and he's good
and seems really nice
you wish he sucked a little bit
yeah but instead he's like
funny he's an advertising company a management company
he's kind of phone company
and his movies are all big and you want to watch him
he owns Northern California
I know he's good
he's the president of the universe
yeah oh this will be you won't want to do
you want to do this one
Fred Armerson is
oh man
that's good
Like it's too much, too much talent
My friend
Yeah
But also so good, so funny
Just makes me smile
Every time I see him
He was on last week, right?
He's delightful
And by the way, speaking of no pushing
Yeah
He never ever is sweaty ever
And it's always funny and weird
And interesting
Yeah, I could get sweaty sometimes
But Fred never would
Spade never gets sweaty
I'm not too sweaty, right?
No, you run it nice and cool
And it's always sharp
It's true
But you and me we want it
I want it
Yeah, we can very easy
stretch your body
We're like, I got a skill set
Let me show you, Motherbucker
Oh, you get one last year
Kristen Whig is
Also my friend
And one of the greatest
Yeah, yeah
One of the best
When I was doing Regis out there
I was guest hosting
And just kind of rehearsing all week
And then she comes in as Kathy Lee
With all this stuff
It was like I was kind of almost
Starstruck by
The meticulous business she had, her energy,
she was hypnotizing in this other rhythm.
It was really interesting to be around that.
She's kind of like Steph Curry of S&L
where you're like, she's super quiet
and seems kind of just keeping herself.
And then all of a sudden you realize
she's been fucking working hard
and is an absolute beast.
And like as soon as that audience is there,
you're like, oh, shit, I've got to get out of the way.
Oh, she has been thinking about this.
Is it okay to mention your wife is a famous musician?
Yeah.
I love my wife.
Neussam.
Joanna.
Joanna.
Sorry.
Went to state school.
Joanna Newsom,
singer-songwriter,
heart player, piano, and vocals.
I listen to some of it.
So I think that's pretty hip.
You're both artists.
Yeah.
She understands.
I mean, she's much cooler than me, obviously.
Yeah, she seemed incredibly cool.
She's that.
We're just,
what else?
She says hi.
She says hi.
So now, just to wrap it up.
So you're a dad now,
and so your world has changed.
Yes.
You and your wife are going to balance
this thing with your work
you have a plan
it's hard it's very hard
it is it's interesting
like figuring out when to work
when not to
when who works when
where
yeah spade what do you think
I think you're heading the right direction
that's my general
Spade do you think you want kids
yeah
I have a daughter and she's here
not here in the house I kicked her out
but she's here and she'll be
and we're going to go to the
lunch right after this
How old is your daughter?
She's 14.
We're going to take her to Beverly Hills,
you know, that little diner in the Beverly Hills Hotel.
No, we're going to something more grimy.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
In and out for her?
I don't want her to know that I have any money.
Just keep it quiet.
Well, this house is a little bit of a giveaway.
Oh, yeah.
In L.A., kids just think that's what houses are.
I know, this house.
I'm just kidding.
Andy Sandberg has been our guest, and he's been very nice.
And his leg probably hurts at this point.
No. I would do this for another seven hours.
And you're going to give us some bike it into the way.
Really? We could deep dive on how much fun it was to shoot laser cats.
Oh, I do like laser cats.
Well, when you see it, you're like, that's just kids' stuff. That's so much fun.
It was very fun.
I like shirrani. Okay.
Okay. This is we do our sum up.
Andy Sandberg, one of the all-time great Saturday Night Live.
What?
Revolutionize Saturday Night Live with a digital video.
Probably has 2 to 300 million hits on YouTube
Between all those videos
Money?
Well, no.
No, definitely not that'll be silly.
Definitely more than that.
Also one of ones we're talking about.
55 million just for on a boat.
I think I'm on a boat has well over 200 million.
Okay, so you're over a billion.
I'm kidding, if I knew this in the beginning of the podcast,
I think of myself as the new Rebecca Black, but thank you.
Okay.
I would have been nervous if I'd known that stat.
But yeah, it's pretty monstrous.
All of them are from years ago, by the way.
Doesn't matter.
Aggregate.
I think we have over a billion views on our YouTube channel, which I know because what else am I going to do during COVID.
And you can pay $2,900.
Look at the views.
Check those stats.
But now there's single songs by pop stars that have like over two or three billion or something.
Yeah.
Mr. Lizard has seven billion hits on his latest song.
Shabbadoo.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm trying to say, what's funny or bad bunny?
Mr. Lizard.
Well, we have been trying to get Andy for a while, because people ask about, like, there's people they really want to hear from.
So, really?
It's nice that you, uh.
Well, your impact on the show is huge.
You're part of the whole story of S&L.
Yeah.
And so we were very happy to have you.
And there's a chunk of time.
It's like, good to have Andy.
You did.
You had a lane that no one else had.
Well, thanks.
I mean, it's very much with Akiva and Yorma, too.
I always have to mention.
And with your friends who are in a lot of the videos and are really great performers themselves.
They are.
They are great.
Those are my butts.
Let's take our pictures.
All right, thanks, Andy.
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