Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - RE-RELEASE - Chloe Fineman

Episode Date: February 18, 2026

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Prices may vary by location. Chloe. Chloe Feynman, Dana. Lovely young lady that was with you more than me. I've only seen her. I saw it the Marcello premiere and then I saw her when I did the show but you're more familiar with her.

She's great though. Yeah, she's great and she's from the Bay Area and we did the Jennifer Coolidge sketch, which she asked me to do. She wrote it with Ariana Grande, remember her? And that was really fun.

That was a killer. That got big laughs. Yeah. So she's just a super talent, lovely young person, funny. She may do the most. most impressions on that show she's one of those people she could play characters do impressions i mean she's totally built for sketch comedy and she's drew barry more i think i hit her on dm i didn't know her

but i'm like that drew barrymore was a killer like trying to throw out confidence here and there when i watch the show um or even when i see stand-ups you know on my feed i'll kick him something just to say hey, one more person out there saying good job on that bit. But Chloe's great. We had a lot of fun with her, as always. And she's such a sweet person. So here she is, Chloe Feynman. Okay, Chloe, I have a character, a new character for you.

No, no. A person trying to get on Zoom with technical voices coming in. Go to AR7. Do you see a blue dot? Do you see a big yellow button in the corner? Push control alt. like some sort of Roman numerical numbers in the upper left hand. It looks like a kaleidos.

All right. Let's click out and try again. We've been through this for years. It's very common. Martin Short took 45 minutes. Did he really? Okay, that makes me feel wonderful. I was kind of given it, but I think a half hour.

Okay. And I took 10 minutes. And I'm, yeah, that's, are you guys in L.A.? That that factors out about right. Southern California Undisclosed location Okay Don't worry about it

Okay, okay I don't need any PAPs in my life Like I'm really Really getting followed a lot So you're in the white, hot world of Saturday Night Live And you're living in Manhattan Yeah

Wow Zoom in from the Kitch Did you live in New York before Or spent time in New York before you got SNL? I did Not to me, you're from Did you ever live in Northern California? Oh, yeah, no, I'm from San Carlos and you're from Piedmont.

Yeah, Berkeley is what I tell people. Is Piedmont-N? Because of Coughlin. Piedmont is a really, really nice place. I've done things there. Yeah, my brother lives there. But the name kind of sucks. Piedmont right now.

Really? That's insane. Yeah. Is it next to Cokland or not? Oakland. Oh, I get it. God, damn. I'll say it one more time.

I didn't know if you're going to walk you through all of them. You can only use that joke when someone near Oakland is on the podcast. My driver. I went to see my brother, of course, I had a driver. And he goes, welcome to Coakland. I'm like, what? I keep track of these Cochlin jokes. That's David's seventh.

In within four minutes. Wow. No, it was more of a marijuana place growing up. I grew up in Berkeley, and then in high school I moved to Piedmont. Berkeley is pretty cool. Yeah, cooler. The first time I lived in New York, I was like doing something. Anyway, I was like 25, 26.

And I'd never been to New York. So I just wondered, you'd live there before and then you get back and now you have the coolest job you can have in New York, probably. Yeah, I went to college here. So I've been here in the West Village for like almost 20 years. That wasn't on your research, was it? Okay. My first 20 minutes, I got to tear up. No, no, no.

Yeah, I went to school here. So I've been here since I was like 18. I'm 35. Oh, okay. Yeah. And did you ever walk by Rockefeller Center? You knew that's where S&L was and kind of go, huh? I had a really exhausted roommate who was an intern.

She was like a page. And she was so tired, but so happy. That was the only knowledge of it. I went to like drama school. So I thought I would do like Shakespeare. I never thought I would. Can you give us a little Shakespeare? What's the ultimate Shakespeare?

Robin Williams did a lot of, he was doing Shakespearean stuff. And he always had one leftover Shakespearean thing. He wouldn't use the mic, but he was just being Ron Williams. Oh, look, the moon. It hangs low like a testicle in the sky. Like that was, he did that a thousand times. A little bit of a hybrid. Uh-huh.

Yeah. Is this a dagger I see before? I guess is this a penis sussie before me? Come, let me catch thee. Here we go. Oh. Not too hard. Common problem.

If the mic went down, Robin would always go, oh, common problem. He had so many. We love him. But so what else do you want to talk about Sarah? Sarah Sherman. Oh, we know you're a dofy buddy. Sarah. Yeah, my little freakazoid.

How is, I want to ask you that you did the Paramount. She hit me up and said, we're doing the Paramount after you. And I was like, look at these girls. Within minutes, they're doing the same theater I'm doing after I've been sweating and slugging it away for 50,000 years. And then I think it probably sounded like fun, but how does that happen with you two? And then what do you do? That's a good, you know, we're very different, but it works. Yeah, two, I think we're obviously Sarah's like extremely disgusting and nauseating.

And there was like a 30-minute slideshow of like a vagina prosthetic that Louis was mad at her that he didn't get to make. And it is so disgusting. And then I come out and I do my impressions, but I make them orgasm. So it's like it's like a rated X. Yeah, yeah. I try and put it in it. It's an after dark kind of show. Well, you have your crossover audience from S&L, and so it's more potent.

And then it would be like me and Dana going out. It's like people that like it go, oh, if they like one, they'll take the other or they like you both. You know, that's always fun. And it sounds like it's a very intriguing show that I would see for sure. I think it sounds just fun because I don't know what it is. Right. And so people just want to go because you're both good and you're both funny. So that's good start.

And also your personas, we're just meeting you now, which is fun. and Sarah is sort of sweet. I don't know. You're not like kind of, you know, and then when you're working blue, it has this energy team. I don't expect it.

You don't expect it. Two nice little Jewish perverts coming out. Yeah. It was good. Yeah. I saw when we did Chloe the, I used to work at the show too. When we did the,

whatever, Sandler's tour, and then she was on a couple with me. It was so funny because I didn't know her at all. And then she was actually super easy to talk to, super fun. She's very magnetic personality because she's very sweet. And then she gets out. I don't know her act at all. Then you say, New York.

Where's my Yorkers? Sticks the mic out. And they kind of go, eh, there's a couple of here. All right. What about that pizza? How about the garbage? And then now they've stopped applauding. What about abortions?

What about that? And she goes on for another 19 times. We're on the side going. Yeah. Now I love it because she doesn't give a fat buck at all. No, no. She did a lot of chilling abortion material in Texas. Yeah, big abortion chunk.

It was great. That's all. And you got to follow it. I'd be backstage going, I'm up there going, should I do 7-Eleven and then McDonald's? If you're orgasm as your impressions, which are really stout and steep. Yeah, I want to hear a few of those, by the dog here. Which one just to get the car? Which one kills the artist?

Which one that they eat up? You know, it's different. It's different every place. I've been doing it for years. I'm always like, God, this is so hack. But, you know, not everyone's... I'd say, like, Drew Baramore starts strong. They all do pretty good.

And then I think I do way too many than I should. People get... And then they're kind of, like, laughing just to be nice. In Texas, the Ted Cruz orgasm does better. Yeah Yeah, there's like some old Like an old Melania Trump one I do them all

I just do them all Oh you do you do Melania Mm-hmm Mm-hmm Did I say it right? I think so Malania Malania

Malania Post enough Malia Yeah I know what we're talking about And do you do I've seen you do Men

Is it harder Or is there any Difficulty to do men I can do like beautiful boys. I think like a boyish, a beautiful boyish man is much easier. Real, real men. No, I think they're so hard. Harry Styles, I remember like doing in front of Harry Styles at the show and I bombed so badly. Horrible. Horace. Locking eyes. Was it on air? Was it? No, no, no. And like he was like looking at me and disgust. But yeah, doing it and I, and I, and I, most of the men I do, I happen to

do it in front of them. God, you just get him delivered to your front door. Timothy Shalamee is kind of you're, I mean, he's, he's so huge right now. Yeah, he's the only one who does him. There it is. Yeah. Yeah, but he's nice about it.

You can tell it's, I don't know, I'm like a lot older than, I just feel like this weird older woman, just like obsessed with these little boys. He's very kind about it. But it's hard not to, I don't know if you have this where you like slip into the slip into the voice when you're around the person. No?

Because you're sort of mimicking, you're picking it up as you go probably. Yeah, and they give you all these get like, yeah, he was totally, totally. Dan is great at that.

Well, we're, you know, sister brother from another mother. Yeah, with your Timothy, uh, you,

yeah, you find, you find these rhythms and hooks and then they really help you get in it. It's like, what's that sound you just made as Timothy? So like, yeah, it was like listening to a lot of interviews. This was like before he became huge.

I started working on him. And it was like, you're growing up in New York. You're growing up in New York as an actor. You're kind of like rhythm. Like goes like that. And then he laughs. Yeah. Just like a 19 year old billionaire.

He's like the most famous guy. They don't, they don't give a shit. That's why he doesn't get bad. You're kind of, you're in that mold where you're accurate, but you're also an abstractionist. You're making it into a character. I tried to. I think that's like after hearing, like Lauren will talk about other people.

You know, I don't know if he does that here where he talks about other people to to kind of have you lean insight into yourself. And he'd always talk about you or Fred and not being having a take. Yeah, not being like so. It's not like a biopic. Right. It's just sort of a It's probably going to get laughs. Sorry, Dan. It's probably going to get laughs. Meanwhile, I'm the guy that doesn't do impressions. But it gets more laughs. When I watch, you or Dana,

when it's a little, obscure and hokey. I say your little. Yeah, but I show your Lord. I sure your Lord. God damn, I thought of a good Lorne thing the other day. How long did it take you before you had a Lorne? Like day one or what? Yeah. Honey, I think as soon as I sat across the first time I met him, I was like, like, oh, this is never leaving. The first thing he asked, because you have to, like, meet him. He was, I'm from the Bay Area, and he was like, are your parents chippies? And then that was, I like when he talks nothing about, like,

you're auditioning for the show. Come in, come in, wait five hours. And then you come in, he's like, do you like baseball? You're like, what? It's just something, nothing about show business or anything. I just like to get a few. He told me once, I go,

Lauren, I'm looking for an apartment. And what are you up to, David? He's totally bored with nothing else to do. David, come in. And I'm like, oh. And then he goes, sit down. I'll make some calls. And then he goes, when he's done with the calls, he goes,

what's going on with you? Basically, like, are you still on the show? So I go, yeah, yeah. And I go, yeah, I'm looking for an apartment, but I'm a little torn because one's, like, upper west side and one's, like, lower upper west side. But one was a little more expensive. and he goes, it's important where you live.

I know. Right. I think it's more of the price point. Yes, wait. The thing he said to me, which is why I'm always like, which is why we're trying to do these paramount shows as much as possible. He was like, you always want to live in a place you can't quite afford. Oh, it's very close to what he said to me.

Exactly. It's very important. So money is not a problem. And I'm like, is it, though? I think it is. Yeah. Do you, have you been in a, like, okay, you're on 8H and Lauren's office is on the nine floor and there's glass.

I'm painting a picture for the listeners. And then you see the rehearsal down there and you're up there hanging out with him talking about something. And then in his own incredible Lauren way, you know, be like, Kevin's going through that, you know, it's the second season and where is this, you know, he cycle analyzes not in a very sweet way. way, not mean, but you always wonder what he says about you when you're down there. I'm so terrified.

I have very close friends who are writers on the show, and they just will not tell me. And I know it's awful and would like never get out of my hand. What Chloe's, is she's kind of stuck in a, uh, and you're like, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Or like, but then I feel like when he talks about other people and maybe it's that crazy making, but you're like, is he trying to say something about me? You know, where it's like, well, show and show is, you know,

if you're doing the same thing you did in your first year and your fifth year, it's time to go, you know, and you're hard not, hard not to be like. Yeah, it's hard to take it constructively and move on. Yeah, number one time he said to me, anything new or are you pretty much played out? Did Bush Sr. and Bush Jr. have another baby? There might be another third one to do. Yeah, and it does kind of scare you. I mean, this is in 80s, early 90s.

I'd worry about the show because he'd get me worried. And I'm like, it's summertime, and I'm like, and you're also killing on the show. Well, you know. Yeah. But it's remarkably the same. Chloe, I have one. He told me, this is the last thing we'll talk about.

He said, he goes, I see you on a lot of talk shows. I go, mm-hmm. And he goes. Anything to add to that? And he goes, well, they can't miss you if you don't go away. Ooh, that's a good one, though. That's a lot of talk shows. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, hey, not, no. It's like doing commercials. And I think he was saying in general with celebrities, do a movie, Laylo. That was actually the old school now. Yeah. Now it's podcast. But, you know, just go away. But that doesn't work anymore.

You can't go away. There's no way to do it. Back to Chloe's. Back to Chloe's. Back to Chloe. We like her pee foul. I'm trying to. Oh.

Chloe, what's a pee foul? Gosh, that was a bird. Is it a peacock? Yeah, yeah. It's like, ah, uh, maybe that was my first impression.

Yeah, we had a bird calling contest at my weird high school. Uh, and then we were flown and went on David Letterman when I was like 15. Fucking sweet. And he was kind of dirty. Yeah,

yeah, he said, or we were dirty. We didn't know we were, we were said something about like feeling your inner bird. But you were like these like 15 year old girls. It was weird, but it went on TV.

Was that dirty? I don't know. He was like, whoa. I think I saw that. You saw her doing her pee foul? Yeah, I remember the bird call thing and it sound, just do it again because it's reminiscent. I must say,

all the way far away. It was, the way. I have to get up. No, no. The way they do it in the high school is like, you kind of put on like sketch. It's like you do bird sketch. You like develop a skit. Right.

My friend and I just like some like arsenic and old lady. I don't know, were these two old British ladies? And then and then the bird call happens. And so the people who win the bird calling contest ultimately I feel like have not hellishly bad sketch comedy. That's great. You know, I do one. watch this. This is birds in the morning. God, I'm not hitting the high one. Wait, your sound went out. You do really quiet birds. Yeah, dude. I play it.

Wait, what's the other one? Oh, here's a bird flying away, ready? You know what? I could have fit right in to your high school. No, you totally, the easiest one with someone, if you like grab your throat for turkey, it's like, blah, la la la. That's like one. That's early first year. When you're a little kid and you're seeing people on TV doing what you're doing now, do you remember that feeling? And then you're actually doing it. It's kind of cool.

I mean, did you, I'm trying to think of your age group, like, who blew your mind when you were 10 years old? I mean, you guys certainly did. We had, I'm older, so we had VHS, like best of VHS tapes that I watched my reruns. Yeah. No, no. They were like compilation. and BHSs. And my best friend had all of them

and we'd stay up and watch them all the time as kids. And then when I was like in high school, that was like the Kristen Will era. But I've been watching it since I was like, I have a video of me as a toddler in Berkeley and the cone heads are playing in the back.

You know, it's just forever. Love the comments. And was your dad an actor or? My dad is an improv guy. No, he's in biotech. Oh. I just thought maybe. No.

He's insane. My mom is a painter and my dad, when my mom was pregnant with my sister, would take me to improv at Fort Mason and San Francisco. Okay. And there were a lot of, like, Robin Williams friends and her. Her her. And I would go to this class with Rob Schneider would take this drop in class. Yeah. And then I would do it.

I'm doing as a little kid. And then he retired, like, I don't know, 10 years ago. Now he goes twice a week once on Saturday in San Francisco and then in Marin and Mill Valley on Wednesdays with my mom. Mills Valley? Yeah. Schneider's from Half Moon. I have a house there. Do you?

Okay. I believe you and I might have at one point had the same doctor in Mill. Whoa. He would show you the other guys x-rays. Huh. I'll bring it up offline. I don't know. I had a weird doctor who claimed to like do you or do your doctor stuff. Oh, really? You should see.

Here's some clips of Dana's colonoscopy. No, if you have some times. I have a doctor. I still have an MD in San Francisco. Oh, no. Is this boring you, David? I'm sorry. Dr. Major says.

No, it is, but Dana also, when he calls in for his prescriptions, his secretary goes, oh, no, I need your address. Well, no, I call in for the same prescription every 30 days. She's very sweet. You want to do what? Oh. Yeah, I need the same one I did last month. Oh, I'm going to have to talk to the doctor.

And then 30 days later Hyatt's data Same prescription Same pharmacy Oh You want to do what? Well don't a lot of people call for prescriptions? Oh

Yes So what was the Wait I have a Chloe question Yeah Why I have more of my nurse impression I'm gonna Oh Oh

I love it She goes Oh she's confused Oh you have a question for our guests. Well, first of all, she's into fashion. I wonder if this green pops on Zoom. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Okay, that's one. Definitely. That's from someone who has an Instagram where there's always like, it's funny to see you go from serious, funny Chloe, then you're like serious, like knockout, like fashion show. Blue Seal. Yeah, that's good.

I won't bore you with that. But also Nicole Kidman, I did a comment on one of your Instagrams because the way you say no is so funny and I was trying to relive it with letters but how is the proper way to say no it's kind of N-A-R I think it's like N-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-U-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-E-E-R-R-R-N-R-R-N-I- It's so fun. I mean do you do you try to do these impressions or do they sometimes just come to you like do you seek okay, I'm going to do Nicole Kidman. Sometimes at S&L it helps if you're assigned someone. And you're like, okay, I've got to try to learn it.

Yeah. No one else does Nicole Kidman or is anyone else? Not really. I feel like most of my- Except for Keith Urban. Yeah, yeah. You cornered the market. I think I have weird taste.

I just like, I don't know. Meryl's, like I auditioned with like Meryl Street, Nicole, Greta Gerwig. Like I just really like. Greta Gerwig. Yeah. That was like, Greta Gerwig.

Lord last. That's a new one. That was the only one thing he last out in my audition. I heard him chuckle. What was your take on her? Yeah. It's just like, her like,

oh, yes, yes, and she talks and, you know, these little, yes, like shapes and,

uh, gestures, you know? Like, he, yeah, he had like a thing. That's funny if you didn't even know what it was.

Yeah, uh, yes. I just remember, it's usually like, I get inspired, I guess, when people win awards. Like, there's, like, them on talk shows you get a lot. But I think when someone's, like, having, like, an emotional thing happen,

I guess, like, waiting an Oscar. I just find it so funny. Like, Greta Gerwig was like, hey, yes, yes, yes. This women, yes, yes. Like, they're hyperventilating. That's how I got my... Francis McDormin was like, okay, I'm hyperventile, okay. You know, like, inclusion writer.

But, like, she had a hyperventilating. I don't know. That's usually when they come. to me. I don't really seek them out. It just makes me laugh so hard. About award shows and what you're talking about. Does it feel like sometimes they'll win the Oscar like Francis McDormann and then they'll come up and they're exactly the character like she's this tough kind of alpha woman. Yeah. Sometimes maybe to win an Oscar, you just go super far away from the character so that when you get up there, you're like talking

like this, you're playing some street hood or something. Uh-huh. Just an observation, go. This is like every, every acting class I was ever in. You're crying, you're alone, you're Italian, go. Go. Go. Yeah, she's a name.

I want to fan out on some of these. Okay, we've already done those, which I love. Reese Witherspoon, which is like just a sound kind of. Uh-huh. Yeah, it was like, it was like, I was watching her on Oprah. And the way she said, Oprah made me, or she was like, I'm on Oprah.

And she'd be like, I'm on Oprah. And she'd be like, I'm a murder. The way she said murder, like, really killed me. It's like, so like in her throat. Like, you know, it's like, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I realize. Yeah, really. Right. Yeah.

Kind of how I sounds. Jennifer Coolidge is just so Such an interesting You do that, right? You must No, no, I don't Who, Dana froze? Did I freeze? Keep going, Chloe. Almost in a Jennifer Coolidge way.

You can go. Yeah. Oh, I mean, everyone and I know has been doing that impression since we were like 10. Because we grew up American pie. Oh. Oh, that's right. Yeah.

But Lauren likes Greta Gerwig because I think when you come on SNL, I only had one impression, but if you come on and do something that hasn't been done. Yeah, like walking at this point. But to do early walking was great. Like I didn't do it. But when you saw, we saw me, I think Jay Moore, there was some back in the day. I'm like, oh, my God, because you don't see it. And then you see it.

And you go, oh, it's so clear. Totally. It's good to find those. And so if you see somebody new, that's great. Yeah, I also find, I think it was when I was like auditioning. There were, it was like, don't do Drew Baramore, don't do Jennifer Coolidge, don't do Christopher Walkin, just stay away. But then I ended up doing Drew Baramore just because I thought mine was really good. I was like, yeah.

But I do think that that's fun. And if I see people do like, God, I saw someone do like Rosam and Pike the other day. And I was like, that's awesome. Like that, it's exciting. you know. Yeah, because it's not someone who's over exposed. So then you really have to go, oh, then you go, oh, that's it. Totally.

It is fun. Yeah. I'm lazy. I find it hard. I find it if I make a goal of doing an impression, it's kind of a bad feeling when you first start and you don't have it at all and you just do it to yourself in a room and you have no, you're horrible. I can't do it at all.

Yeah. It's really a weird. How do you do it? You just, what's your process? I'm so sorry. It's that. No, it's totally that. I mean, I remember, and now I feel like once you've done enough of them,

I feel like in a weird way they all sound the same. And so you're like, I'm not good anymore. You're starting with the same voice, your own voice, and it's hard to make it so different every time. Yeah. It was easy when I was like alone in L.A. Like, Chalemay was really bad at first, but I had like the luxury just kind of being like sad and alone in my hot apartment

with no air conditioning. I don't know. Like, that was easy. And then I was doing stuff at UCB and the groundlings at the time. And the worst one I've ever done and I still can't get it was Lena Dunham. It was like for a UCB show. And I think it was like if they sound a little too close to your own, to my voice, it's like I can't.

My brain just like doesn't know what to do. Right. Also, I don't think people, maybe they know when they're listening. But a lot of it is also not just you. it's a writer knocking at your door at like 1 a.m. on Tuesday going, hey, can you do Sidney because we got to do an machine? You're like, oh, oh, tomorrow? Okay. And then you just have to kind of go, all right, I got to find something and then a funny wig. And then, you know, things could help it a little bit. But you've got to be ready when you get assigned someone in a sketch.

I do feel like if I'm really stuck, laughs are such an end. Oh. Yeah. Now, the way their mouth, what their mouth is doing and their, last. Anyway, that was that. Your health can move around a lot. No, it's funny, interesting, like, you're, okay, so you do all these impressions and everybody knows it. And then you're doing characters.

And you kind of, in a way, you don't want to be couched as, like, people today, it doesn't really matter to me at this point. Oh, you're the impressionist guy. Well, I go, what about Church Lady Garth and Hans and Franz? They go, oh. So, you know, inventing clothes. Chloe, just you as an actress. Oh, this is my new character.

You want to do it. You want to do what? I'm going to have to talk to Lorne. But I just thought inventing Chloe was such a cool. And Piper Dunster. And I feel like someone who has an ear and can do these things can also, of course, do all these other things. It's just, it's on demand. Saturday Night Live is a lot of demand for celebrity impressions.

So it's great for someone with your biggest payoff. Talent. Yeah. I feel like all of us kind of, you know, you like find the thing that you can get on the show in your first year or two. Sarah, disgusting, uh,

me. Sarah's like prosthetics, brilliant. And then I was like impressions. And then, you know, you're like, okay,

this is like my life raft. Um, but now that I'm in my fifth year, like I don't really done that many this year. I don't know. It's, it's nice. that we can stretch ourselves.

It's hard to keep coming up. Yeah, you go crazy. Like, guys, nobody do a six foot tall vagina this week because I'm doing it. Okay, is that like an update thing? Yeah. But Sarah says that like Sarah's done like amazing characters this year and like these awesome pre-tapes.

And I kind of really focused on pre-tapes for like back like last year and the year before that was like the thing. And I've done a lot more live. I don't know. It's cool. You can really like stretch yourself at the show. What was the character? you did a pre-tape with during COVID

where you had a short blonde wig and then you played both parts. OLE. Yeah, OLE. And then she was living with you and then you had to film. Did you have to do that all yourself or not? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, my boyfriend.

All the filming? Yeah, he was in the other room working on a quitty show wanting to absolutely murder me the whole time. RIP. Are you drinking hairspray? What is that? A water bottle? I have a notion.

I don't know what it is, but I, I, when I think of you as an actress and wanting to really commit, there's something in my head here that it's you and Sarah, probably presentational, like some sort of science symposium to high school kids or something. And there's little volcanoes and goo. And Sarah starts to make sexual innuendoes. And you just get really, really mad. Like you accelerate to, I will fuck you up, you know, basically. not saying that. If you do that one, you take her aside. I just think you letting go with that kind of

anchor on anger doing her. Maybe it's a sign to write yourself, but just the rhythm of that, I see you being so funny in that character. We were talking with I just, no, that's really we want to go again. Like

when it was Sarah's first year and we got the please don't, the PDD boys to stay up to like five in the morning writing this sketch where we were like, we were kids, we were sisters who had come home trick or treating. We were covered in chocolate, like, on a sugar high. And it was Jason Sudecass and him and Heidi were like realizing they were going through a divorce. And we kept like interrupting being like, I don't know. And it was the hardest bomb ever. The TD you guys were like, that's the worst

sketch we've ever done. And she and I haven't written since. We haven't done many things. It's so, really? Yeah, we got to get over. We realize that in Austin. Like, I haven't written with the PDD since this candy thing. It's like, really. You bought yourself a year probation. Can you get eye contact in the hallway?

Oh, yeah. We like love each other. I just was like, God. And it was so long ago. I think everyone's forgotten. But sometimes when you bomb that badly, it's like hard to recover a bit. Well, what if you did science fair and you're in high school? This is more of a sketch.

It's a little dryer. Oh. She goes, it's like the volcano is coming. And then you go, can I talk to you for a second? Same kind of thing. You pull her side and go, what are you? I want to see you escalating, getting angry, you know, like hair, a frizzy wig. And I will, I just feel like that.

I don't know. Yeah. Basically, I don't know. I love that. Do the PDD guys write their own stuff? No, they take your suggestions. No, they, yeah, they work. They work really well.

the cast and then they do their own stuff. So there's a couple. One for them. Oh, no. No, they don't ever do that. Although there's a writer, Jake Nordwind, who pitched, who he pitched something to them and it didn't, it didn't go. But, you know, they're open to, I, there's a lot of, like, today's Monday.

So when I get to work, everyone will be in Mike DeCenzo and Jake's office or PDD's office. And they all kind of, like, give each other ideas. in a way. Who's the host? Who's the host? Duolipa. Oh, nice. Who's the music?

Duolipa. Who's going to be in most of the sketches? There's a lot of doubles lately. I don't know if I love it. There I said it. There's a lot of duas. Get it? That was so bad.

Yep. I'm going to do it all week. I used to be a licensed therapist. Oh, I didn't know that. So where are you, you're five years in, you're doing great on the show, you have all your buddies there, you're in the trenches with everybody. Yeah. What's your, what is your headspace like? Are you feeling like, because some people like Eddie Murphy, day one, they're like at a 10.

As far as comfort there in your fifth season, are you feeling good, excited, or you're still, like, where are you at? Right. Where are you at? Where are you at? Where you at? I mean, we only have three shows left, so I definitely, and it's 80 degrees in New York. So it's definitely that, like, senior vibe. I also think senior items a little bit.

There's also, I remember there's like those life rafts you need in a year, you know, like you need enough things to hit to feel like you're not getting fired. I still, I mean, because I knew people in their fifth year who did get let go, you know, so it never goes away. It's a common feeling. Yeah. And I think now I'm. kind of like, well, so-and-so needs, like, making sure enough people need wins,

although that's just what other writers have said. They're like, I'm not going to write with you. They say wins? I don't even heard that. Wins, you know, just something that they make their mark. Really? No, it makes sense. Hits, yeah.

They were like, you've had a good run. We've had a couple doubles, but not a home run lately. Yeah, yeah. They're like, I need to help. Because when you reach out to writers, like, I need, I'll try and help you with this, but I need to help so-and-so get a hit. it is hard to ask a writer. I would ask Smigel or I'd ask Conan and they're like,

they're already busy with something. It's hard to go. It sucks. Hey, I have knock, knock. I have a dog shit idea that's not formed at all. Yeah. Did you spend three hours cracking the code with me to make it a C plus? Yeah.

Yeah. We're busy. No, I have a lot of like, I don't know. I'm not as like brazen about right. Like I'm like, I have to have, I hate wasting their time. And like, I'm the most nervous on the show just. in terms of like letting writers down and the fears that they won't want to work with me again because that is like the only way to survive the show and so yeah I don't really care about if the

sketch get I guess I only care about like well these people help me write it and if they cut it those people aren't going to write with me again you know so like that is a big part of it and and having enough yeah yeah and it is that thing of like I can waste this writer's time for like two hours trying to crack my horrible idea or I can just like, my wispy idea. Suffer alone until I somehow have an idea. I've gotten better with that. I don't like suffocate writers to help me.

I don't know. If I don't have something, I'll be like, I'm going to, I'm just going to sleep on this and not like ruin someone's. I don't want to ruin relationships. You just gave me a sense memory of like Tuesday night at 2 a.m. I know. And you're in a room. with the writer and everyone's just like this.

Yeah. And the idea is the souffle is just deflated. It's just like five minutes of no talking and then like, what if. Maybe if Farley could come in, you know, fall to the ceiling and save it. Yeah. That's not.

No one is laughing. Everyone's like bloodshot eyes. And it's like, well, Keenan could enter. Kenan's are. Yeah. You always get a lot. Yeah, 100%. Yeah.

Right. Keenan is so articulate and so clear and he has such a strong voice. And he has like a mischievous vibe about him. Like he's not breaking, but you clearly see he's enjoying it. By the way, I just want to ask you. He held together that beavis and buttoe. I was going to ask you that the beaves and butt head because I know you came in at the end, I think.

Yeah. And so I thought because Ryan Gosselin, is such a huge star and his attitude. He's kind of breaking the whole show but it's so entertaining. Yeah. But that's kind of a famous show

and now a famous sketch of the most broken. So just speak to your, from your point. I mean, it was, well, for Mikey, none of us knew that's what you, even when we were. Oh, really?

That's what I thought. They escalated it, right? We knew, yeah. Like, when we were, blocked in on Thursday everyone was laughing just because of the lines that Ryan and Mikey have are so stupid like I think Ryan has

a line yeah where he's like I actually have a really busy life like that would always make Mikey like the dumbest line ever actually and you think he's not talking to him he's like this guy over here yeah yeah and then they they ad lived on Thursday or maybe it was Friday when we were blocking the like

I don't know this hi John nice to meet you like that was added but then Yeah, just Mikey just looked so fucking dumb. It was, it was shocking. What was the difference in his makeup between, because everyone had seen it at dress. Yeah, we all saw it at dress.

I think it was just the, it was like this. He just changed it up a few percentage points. He just made himself like 20% dumber. It's all you need. Yeah, and Keenan never brought, like Keenan carried that. Like, I don't think the steps would have worked as much if you didn't have Keen and doing that.

So the point when like by the time it got rolling. Yeah. By the time it got to me, I was like, I can't like super break. It's annoying. Yeah. Right. It was already, yeah, because. Did Heidi stop?

Heidi was already. That was yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I don't know. I'll see her today. I've seen her two weeks.

Yeah. But Heidi never breaks. That was what was so like delightful about. That's very adorable. And it was more than a break. It was laugh out loud. It made me laugh. I think that thing as like 20 million views or something.

I mean, it's really kind of a. It's awesome. Did Mike? Yeah. Well, Mikey and Heidi have known each other forever. So I think it's also like two long time friends. I think she's, yeah, with a lot of love for each other. So it's like it was so hard.

Yeah, there's a lot of love behind that too. It was just great. It was fun to see. Everyone looked funny in it. The Beavis and then just seeing that. And then she really like got like she can't stop, which is always fun to watch. It's just a fun one.

And Ryan Gossack's a huge star. The construction of the writing of having Keenan be the voice of the audience like, a stupid AI conversation. They look like that and that, that, and then the seriousness and back and forth. It's sort of just a really well.

Yeah. It operated all cylinders. It did. But I don't know if you know this, but like they have pitched that sketch so many times. I didn't know this. Oh, really? Yeah.

There's a Joan. Hill dress rehearsal you can watch. Wow. Oh yeah. This is like the third time maybe. And they said the Jonah Hill one's like hilarious. It just never like made it past the finish line. So it was cool when air, when it happened on air, all these writers came down like Streeter Seidel was there watching it because I think he has taken that thing to table like five times. Jesus. Whoa. A motivational speaker didn't get on right away. That took a long time. Really? And that's people.

would be shocked. And actually the writer Bob Odenkirk had left and then we came back in the season and did it. That's a weird scenario. That's crazy. Have new cast members, which ones have come on since in the last five years so that you would be the Wiley veteran or you came in with Bowen and Shane? Shane for a day. Oh, yeah, and Shane. Yeah. Did you meet Shane when that happened or you never even got to meet?

No. No. A part of me like. No, I met him out like one of those like Lauren baseball games like two years later. He was so sweet. Can you get us some hot dogs, Chloe? Yes. What would you like garden? What do you want? You met him there? He was there? Yeah, at a baseball game like two years later. Yeah, it was crazy. Oh, two years later?

Yeah, yeah. But Bowen was a writer before I was. So I really felt very new. But Bula, Dan Bula and I were the same year. And then... Love Dan Bula. Genus. Jeannus. Gila, solid. Solid.

And you came in as feature writer or just feature or... Casse. Caste. What? No, no, feature cast. Caste. The teacher player. I think they call it a player.

Yeah. And then, gosh, who came after me. Then it was like Andrew just... meukes and I can't remember Do you know everyone who's on the show? Yeah, I do. I'm actually doing.

You're like, I'm blanking. I'm just trying to remember. It was like me and Bowen. Then I feel like it was punky Andrew Lauren Hall. Then came the Sarah Jage, this guy Aristotle year. Then they brought in a hundred people,

Marcello, Michael, Devin, and Molly. Who does he? impressions and she's not there anymore. Melissa. Melissa. Melissa was already there. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. She was like three years in when I started. Melissa had been there for four or five years. I see her and Marcello. One thing that speaks to your ability is the understudy sketch where you did Melissa and you did Kate to them. That was kind of interesting. How did they take that?

I was so scared, especially like. You know, I think we are all really close. But, you know, when I started the show, like, Kate had been on the show for, like, nine years and was a superstar. But it is one of the loveliest, weirdest. I was about to be, like, down to earth. Very down to earth. But, like, Pete, I was like, I think we'll get a kick out of it.

But, like, Cessley, I was really intimidated. All those women I was so intimidated by. But then it was sort of this, like, sweet. Sethley was, like, so into it, which was shocking. And Kate was great. And I was like, it was a thing, too, when I had started, if you had a pre-taped, I'd written, actually with Dan Bullough, we wrote this murder show. And like, just getting those super seniors to be in your video was so hard. So I was, like, shocked that they even were open to being in a pre-tap.

Can they turn it down? I've had, I've had things turned down. Yeah. What? That was already approved? Of, like, recast. Yeah, I've had that. Yeah.

I wouldn't do that. anymore. Yeah, I'm not revealing anybody, but, you know, but then you, have you, how many you turn now? Kate has never, Kate was always in everything and that meant a lot to me. I've never turned anything. I love the pre-tapes.

I could be there for hours. Pre-tapes are tough. Now, do you don't do them, when do you start? That's my last question. When do you start on pre-tapes? Because we used to only do them, Dana, right, right? After reetters, like on a Wednesday. No. Thursday. Wednesday, Thursday, kind of.

Yeah, yeah. How do you know what's approved before Ryan Gosson gets her? Do you get him working Monday morning? No. Well, now they're doing these promos. So, like, I have to shoot a promo tomorrow. Where you walk around with a host or do some bit? Yeah, they're like, can you do a do a leap impression?

I'm like, no. So I'll, I'll do like, I'll find some bird call version of her tonight. So you're literally right now, just for our listeners. So you've been assigned this impression. Yeah, I cannot say. By tomorrow. And you don't have it right now. She's British.

No, I'm not like a, like Melissa was part of Melissa's genius was, she could do these singing in prep, like Lady Gaga. I cannot think there's a wise with me. Yeah. Well, you'll have a funny wig. You'll have an accent. You're half of there. Yeah.

We'll be okay. But otherwise, yeah, Wednesday night, they pick your stuff, hopefully. And it's cool with the pre-tapes because usually you'll get an email like 15 minutes before the picks are out asking to Zoom. for your video. So it's really sick as hell to be like, oh,

thank God. Like we did a Pilates thing. Oh, you know, that's how you find out you got on? Yeah, yeah.

Email. Like a Pilates video and it was like, you got the, Bing, and we were like, you know. Oh,

and then when is the next morning? No, then we, then they have to build, they build the set Thursday and then we shoot it Friday. And then for like, the under,

when it would be like a me-centric, video that would be done sometimes they would pick it on Wednesday but not really and they'd be like we're gonna do this next week but shoot it like on Monday or we're gonna shoot it on Tuesday and then the writers were so bad they inventing Chloe we shot on Thursday so that was the next

day and we weren't sinking and it was when everyone was doing like rewrites I think and we had we wanted like seafood towers so we basically like stunk up Oh, I saw that. That looked expensive, by the way. It was really expensive.

It was really gross. And all the writers were like locked and they were so mad. Oh, yeah. That was beautiful. That rewrite table, Jim Downey was probably dated with 15 hours of, oh, just going over every goddamn sky. And you weren't even in them or you wrote one. You just go, Spade, wake up. What do you got for me on this one?

You're like, what if this guy says? Yeah. Yeah, that's a. That was a tough job that day. All right, Dana, what else you have for lovely clothes? You're off the show this week. There's no show this week. No, do.

We go back. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So I think we'll do another hour. Unless you have something to do, we could go into our second hour. No, no, no, no. Just say hello. Hello to the cast.

They're all brilliant. It's the show's cooking. Yeah, it is. It really, it's like found it. But we've like figured each other out a little bit more. Yeah, I do think that Brillopad Sarah Sherman The audience just keeps discovering Yeah

Crazy Sarah What did she say? The sun has knockers Oh yeah, she was on her show She goes, by the way, just FYI audience Dana and I I told her later, I go

We both found out later We didn't understand that joke And we just laughed because it was so bananas But she said, you know, they're saying Earth is flat But I think the sun has big knockers. I didn't connect that. And then we did all these jokes about it. And then later, when I saw it on a clip, I go, oh, I get it. I didn't even get it. I didn't hear the earth's

flat. So that was the thing that I thought it was a non-sec water. And I was like, why do I even say I'm in comedy? I didn't get it. I was so embarrassing. She did a bit and we thought it was funny anyway because she's like, you know, how the sun has knockers. The sun has a big, the son has a funny voice. Yes, she does. She has a, but you can go walk to work now. I could actually today.

Or do you have a limo? No, no, no, I like the, I'm near Westworth, so it's like seven minutes, five minutes on the train.

Get out. All right, our last thing, we'll let you go. Do you have a fake pitch for the meeting today? Like, or real one.

Chloe, this will be like, Chloe, anything. You're like, hi, Dua. That's how you start. Yeah. Yeah, hi, Dua. So over the break, that's usually how it starts.

I'm going to think. So I'm the worst at it. Yeah, mine are like weird. Everyone has their thing. Sarah is our Sarah. Marcello kind of does this like, uh-oh, so I was, uh, thinking that. He does like a chalemate, like sexy baby thing.

I take, I'll tell them. I'll add it one way and then the pitch is so bad. But then sometimes they do become sketches. Yeah, they bite on. The host doesn't know. They bite on a fake pitch and you go, uh-oh. Sydney,

Sweeney, I pitched through the Hooters idea where I was like, maybe we're working hooters. Ooh. And we're counting tips. I get $20 and you made like, you're like, cool. I made like $40,000. And then she DM'd me to write it.

And then we got in so much trouble for like sexualizing. It was so fucking funny. But it was you put. it over here. I know you purve. That was a good one, though. It was very funny when you're counting your money. Stupid.

Yeah. So stupid. Some of that, just silliness, I think this is sort of, I don't know, I just, the way the world is all this madness and everything. And just abstraction. That's why Beavis a butthead, maybe it decides, it would hit so hard. Yeah. Houters catch just, I think we're in the mood for like just madness.

I know. I think so. I think the political client. Like, we also like, it's, you, you can kind of touch it, but not really. It's like, it's, it's, it's open the, the door for weird, which I think is so nice. Weird is like a really, yeah, yeah, because I'm not the smartest with the political stuff. I don't, I do, I do these little shorts for this just because if I do Biden, I feel like I'm doing something really nasty and wrong. Yeah.

So I kind of have to do it. Yeah, yeah. People get so mad when there's, yeah. There's so many Trump jokes, but I have done some silly little things and people, I don't know, people seem to like that now. I don't know what you call it. Abstract or weird, weird. I like that. I like that a lot.

But movies are like, I was thinking that the Sasquatch Sunset, I don't know. Movies are weird. Everything's weird. We're in the era, age of weird. You know, it's funny because there's a lot of superhero movies because I figured out that the bad guy can't be a certain race or religion. So you make them just a monster. And then no one gets mad. Well, you know what I mean?

Or you can be a transformer and then I go, think of it. The influence on entertainment is because of the trauma of Hiroshima in Japan, there was all this radioactive Godzilla's movies and worse than there. So it is an influence on whatever the Zaggeist or the emotional, uh, freak, the emotional temperature of the culture. Yeah, yeah, totally.

So two people having fun being really silly and, you know, it's just great. So I'll be watching Saturday. Don't be nervous. Well, yeah. I love fun, Chloe. Thanks, guys. Chloe, thank you for doing a Zoom from the Kitch, your new sketch. Hey, you're welcome.

And sorry about being so inept at this beautiful microphone. And at least I have. You nailed it. I'm going to bring this to a pitch. I'm going to just pitch with a loose line. That would be so funny. Just stand up. Hey, I actually think I might do that.

It's pretty funny. Loose my. You go, hey, hey, do it. Doa, can you hear me? She's like, yeah, I'm two feet away. Okay. So, Chloe, so nice to meet you. So nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you, too. Okay, Chloe. Thank you. And I wish you all the best and keep having fun and say hello to anyone who would ever care. Anybody to listen. Hey, guys, if you're loving this podcast, which you are, be sure to click follow on your favorite podcast. Give us a review, five-star rating,

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