Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - RE-RELEASE - Dan Aykroyd

Episode Date: May 27, 2026

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when those old guys would come out of the office, meaning the earlier cast, he was probably 35. Anyway, he comes by the office. All right, sir, fair enough, sir. He would come in and chat with everyone. Very good, sir. That's kind of what he does, Tom Schneider. Yeah. For those who may be miss us when we had him on, it's worth a listen.

There's something about him that is so interesting. And he is, he's got such a wide range of things he's interested in, too, as well. well as comedy and performing in movies, but it's a fun, fun little listen. Yeah, he's not rotting on his couch all day. He's like looking for UFOs. He has a crystal head vodka companies into everything. Polter guys. All the supernatural stuff, really. Which got us Ghostbusters, which was a happy accident there. It did pretty well. Unbelievable. I think one of the Ghostbusters was going to be Eddie Murphy. I think one was going to be Belushi and I didn't work.

I think Eddie Murphy says that's the only movie he regrets, not doing it. I regret that they never made the sequel to Ghostbusters in a Western thing called Broncan Busters Ghostbusters. Yeah, there was some talk about that. Yeah, that would have been great. But anyway, here he is. The one and only my hero, one of the best of all time on Saturday Live. Dan Aykroyd.

I saw Chris two days ago and he's Stay at the Chateau. He love Chris. He must love you. He came over and gave me a hug. I said I was seeing you guys and he was, yeah. He should have been more excited about you seeing us, but that's okay. It's great when you meet someone who hasn't become a superstar yet.

Chris? Yeah, and if you treat them normal, they never forget it. If you're just reasonably respectful. He's pretty much of a superstar. Oh, yeah. And just, boy, from what I can gather, hasn't changed a bit. This looks like a congressional inquiry.

You are. Let's answer some questions. We're sitting on a table like a same Oppenheimer. The podcast is actually called the hot seat. It's a surprise. And you are. And we welcome Dan Aykroy to the hot seat. Heather,

help them with that. You know how to do that? I'll do the side thing. And will you bring a bottle? So, Crystal head vodka. Is that the one? Do you have plain?

Do you have any fresh squeezed orange juice in the house? in the house? Heather? I assume so. Did you ever win an award? Do you have any juice at all? Any cranberry or any? You know what we might have is a, it's not juice.

I might have lemon. Seven up. Seltzer. Is that nothing? It's not really. You don't have a juice like a hibiscus or cranberry or a. Habiscus. Yeah.

That's all right. Put some ice in there. Yeah, I will. Yeah. I'm just, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Don't worry about that. No.

But it's just if you, to sample it, it pops it better if it's, if it's cold. Oh, if it's cold. I'll put some ice in there. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll try some. I'm going to have, yeah. So, and please let me know. So I don't, let me know when we're rolling so that I'll do all the politically incorrect

stuff now. We're always rolling. We don't have to use it, but we're rolling. But you always have editing capability. You can always send you the raw tape. The conversation begins then. Okay. Okay.

Well, what you're doing there is your. You're pouring the mash. Okay, go ahead. Have you won awards for this vodka? Do you do a formal introduction or do we just? No, we do have Dan Aykroyd who's. I start everyone as Joe Biden. Get your facts straight, Jack.

That's it. Yeah. And then there was the other president you did so well and so beautiful. Gotta do it. Yeah. You know, the way that eventually, yeah. And it was a slur. You know, it's a Washington.

It became not going to do it, it became not going to do it. And in Washington now, there's a slur that is commonly used, commonly for a word that is frequently employed in the trade. Sir, sir, sir, it's senator, senator becomes sir. Sir, sir. It's Sewell. Soil, remember Sewell? Katan. How genius was that guy?

Sewell, do you remember Sue? No, Chris Katan. Chris Katan. He did Sewell. Because, yeah, I'm talking now, I'm going to tell you, say, I think, I guess you. You know, Sewell, the slur. Yeah. People slur all the silts a time.

Yeah. A little bit. Now I think he, a little bit, yeah. Can I do a six degrees of separate? I don't think that's the term. I'm in college. You're doing Jimmy Carter on Saturday Night Live. I'm recording it with a cassette and trying to steal, you know, playing a little team.

steal your Jimmy Carter and was in awe of it and then... To use where? In clubs. I was just trying to do what you guys did. You guys were like, to me, like badass rebel pirates.

Yeah. I think of Bill Murray and you. That's so accurate an analysis of us. It really is. Well, we were little. Look at us. We're like little people.

We're tiny people. But you guys were kind of strapping all over six feet. You would punch and or make him laugh. Yeah. But, and so you do, you'd copy you that Jimmy Carter. You know, he had that, he had that eye contact and a very soft way of approaching things.

And he ended up being, you know, one of the great post presidents and really a giant figure. You know what's interesting about him? Because I became fascinated by him because he's constantly referred to. So I read this book about him. Could not understand the idea of deficit spending. He was like, I don't understand. How we take him this much money. And we're going to give out that much money.

It makes no sense to me. But my Jimmy Carter I do now, I still do all the presidents, is that he had a nervous breakdown, put peanut butter on his head, we wand around the White House. Sir, are you okay? You got peanut butter on your head. No, I don't. I'm a peanut butter man.

I got peanut butter half, peanut butter soup, peanut butter tie, peanut butter shoes. That's good. I'm a peanut butter. I'm doing you. But here's the thing that got me crazy, is when you, you were visiting S&L and then you praised my joy. George Bush senior impression. So it was like 10 years later.

So that just, you know, these things are motion. Carter was unbelievable. You know, he was a nuclear physicist and an engineer in the Navy. And he helped set up Canada's reactor program. There was a captain of a nuclear summary. He troubleshooted, went up to Ottawa, my hometown there and troubleshooting a reactor problem they had at one point. In what year before president or after?

Oh, yeah, no, when he was, you know. Well, like just some president walks in. Let me take a look at that. I'll get back to the economy. I'm going to do this reactive for the other ones. Yeah, but well, the deficit spending, you know, look, we live in a country that is a fiat currency. Well, Canada as well.

Say, you know, fiat currency, all you do is you just print more money if you need it. And so, you know, spending, you got to spend the money. People need it. You got to spend it. We're doing that. And we're doing it. Yeah. We've got a third.

Don't let it sit on the shelf. No, it shouldn't. A third world debt load right now. Right. But because we can print more, why not spread it around? It's a never-ending thing. Spread it around. Modern monetary theory.

Now we're getting close to a trillion in interest on the debt. Oh, I know. It's really bad. Pouring hands. A little bit of that. A little bit of that. A little bit of that. I poured some for myself.

Now you'll notice our note's sweet, thank you. Sweet, vanilla, dry and crisp. Made in Canada. Can I ask you a question about this? We don't have to talk about the vodka. We can talk about that. No, no, I want to talk about that. This is going to integrate into you as a performer.

You were one of the first celebrities that made a... Oh, so sweet. For like, first time he tasted. Dan's drinking his own vodka. There's a, there's a, mm-cons in the back of, mm. Now, I'll do it. David has this other vodka. I won't mention the name sometimes.

I'm always looking for a vodka. So, Chris, go ahead. And I knew about this. Okay, we have here. David Spade is going to take the little ship. Am I smelling the notes first? Didn't you love Johnny? So he's going to have.

Last night he had two slippery monkeys at the hook and crook. What a great Carson, you all this did. Oh, I love Johnny. Ah, yeah. When he died, when the joke would die, that was the funniest, the way his reactions were. You know. Yeah, the deconstructing of the show. Dry, crisp.

You did it right. to finish. It's clean. It's, you'll, the sweetness from our corn there.

Yeah. And I'm a vodka guy. Yeah. Well, the thing I want to. David, most of the other vodka,

so I don't name names, but they put a lemonade, sugar, and they put citrus oil, they put glycol. Fuck down.

You don't need that. No. Don't need that. You know, if you're a bartender, you're making things where you add all kinds of additives in there

are St. Germain, you know, all kind of, Burnette Branko, all that stuff. Dictionary. Dan, are you

You know, so you don't need If you're a bar chef, you don't need Well, I don't know the story. How did this originate? I'm sorry, I just want to know how you... I just wanted a cleaner vodka, really. What year was this? We've been a decade and a half in the disc.

Now, there have been many vodkas come and gone. Come and gone. Many come and gone. And all the celebrities are doing tequila now. Well, many. You know what, there's 200. Sick. Celebrity spirits brands.

Too many. 200. I didn't even know there was... Two hundred celebrities. I got to get going on this. Yeah. But weren't you an early adopter? It seems like...

Sammy Hager did his tequila. And then I just began to research vodka and saw that, you know, that they were kind of polluting it a bit. And so Johnny Alexander and I came up with the idea for the skull. Remember him, you know, Johnny? Johnny Alexander, the artist. Yeah. Well, the skull is revolution. We met when he, when his girlfriend, or my girlfriend.

friend dumped me for him. Rosie Schuster. Oh, Rosie Schuster who developed Churchill with me. Yeah. I wrote with her a lot. A spectacular human being. Yeah. And a beautiful, beautiful woman from time. I didn't know she was Lauren's ex-wife for like a year.

Lauren's ex-wife. Yeah, well, I knew. You know that for that? I knew and it didn't stop me. Oh, boy. He was very magnanimous. But anyway, Johnny, I got it back because not that I took her away from him. That was kind of over with Lauren. and Rosie at the time.

But I was with Rosie, and she fell in love with Johnny and dumped. Gave you the Hezeman. And now we're friends, yeah, now we're friends, Johnny and I. And as Rosie said to all three of us one night at Davis's Memorial, she looked at Lauren, she looked at me, and she looked at Johnny. We were all sitting there like crows on a wire at Davis. She said, well, at least you have each other. Oh, we love Rosie.

So today we have the vodka company, Johnny and I. We're having a ball with it. It's really fun. You know, if you can drink moderately and respectfully, it's a good thing. Now, Danny, are you saying some of these, like, there's a lot of celebrities? I drink Urkels tequila, which is probably the best one. Urcles? I'm kidding.

I don't know. Yeah, it sounded real. He probably does. It's probably in the works. I've got Felix the Cat. What would that be? It's a logger and beer. Yeah.

Felix the Cat. You remember Felix the Cat? Yes. Oh, of course. Does he remember? Do you remember? Elwood Blues is partly. Oh, he's partly Felix the Cat.

He's partly based on Felix the Cat, the briefcase that has everything in it. Oh, my goodness. I love Felix. That's got to be brought back. That is a beautiful, beautiful character. That was one of my first animated memories. Oh, yeah, yeah. Fifty-eight.

Felix is, Felix is great. He's one of the Blues Brothers, Felix. Yeah. I mean, my God. He's black and white. I know. Yeah, that's a mission from God. Yeah. Now listen.

Now, when you do this, you're saying the azvotkas, they have, some of those things you're saying, that are in it, I didn't know all the words, but they might make for a hangover. The glycol certainly would. Okay. So when you have too many things in it, it's not great for that. No, no, of course now, you get to eight shots of this, even without the pollutants in there.

You're going to, it is ethel alcohol. So, you know, you got to be kind of calm about that. One of our new sponsors, I guess, is trying to mitigate that problem. Oh, we have one of ours that says it has hangovers. But you know what? Oh, it doesn't have hangovers? It mitigates them. It's not vodka saying it helps you with a hangover.

It's not a lot. Well, you know, try it. Yeah, try it. I mean. Now, by the way, the House of Blues, Dan, you don't know this. You were part of the House of Blues, and it was across the street. It's so sad it's gone. They dug up the coolest place in the world, and now it's some dumpy hotel that nobody cares about.

Well, Live Nation bought House of Blues in 2007. How much did they pay for? They paid several hundred million. Okay. Basically to save the company because it had had many challenges. And they came in and saved the company because, you know, the dot-com bomb 2008, all kinds of things, 9-11, all kinds of things fought against House of Blue survival. And Live Nation came in and saved the company in 2,500 jobs. And then across the street here, the leaseholder basically wanted the building back.

And so they just paid Live Nation, you know, a sum to say we want. to build our own thing here. And Live Nation looked at it economically and said, you know, we'd have to run a restaurant here for the next 50 years to make the money that was offered. So I understood the decision, but it's too bad. They took out our beautiful bar with the steel,

curved steel. And that was my office. I mean, I hung. I saw the gogoers. I saw so many. Oh, so many great guys. Yeah. Yeah.

There's a cool one in Anaheim, Vegas. They're still out there? Yes. Oh, yeah. There's 11 of them. And they are, they're rocking. The one in Chicago. It's just great.

It's a great brand. So another business thing you got into, it seems to me just listening to you, it's a super creative expression of yourself. Because the first time I met you and you sat us all, you were visiting SNL. It was me and Phil and John, my first season, we were at a restaurant. First thing you said was, don't be in a hurry to leave the show. And the second one was just about business and pay attention.

Well, it's show business, right? Yeah. But I remembered that to this day. It's always great to have great advisors. And, you know, any work that I've done that I'm proud of, it's because I've been with wonderful collaborators, any success I've had. It's consulting people who are smarter than me in many areas. And just the fun of working with just great people all the way through, you know, Murphy and

Murray and all of them. Jesus Christ. Yeah. And Lubbts, of course, we just think of him as he's, as far as I'm concerned. certain he's the price of it he's worth the price of admission to s andl generally his love it's just of love it's was there you know why do you say that's so funny he's i don't know where he got that character he's spectacular i did this thing it's going to be out in the next year uh the world in six glasses it's a documentary talking about all the fluids that have

influenced man and kind over time and i had him on there he came on and boy that was one of the most fun uh yeah huh i'll do it oh yeah he's so fucking Oh, no. He's just, he's just good. You put him in the wedding singer. He's funny. Yeah. I've had him in movies.

He's great. No, he is. He is. Jealous? Yeah. That's his big one. By the way, hey, I like your glasses. Jealous?

Yeah. You mentioned Trading Places and I, I mean, there's too many things to ask Dan Ack wrote about. I know. There's not much to ask other than the fawn over things, but trading places was one of the, those movies that just hit us hard, and it was an R-rated movie, and it was so fucking funny. And then you just, so I don't want to say, did you know it going in? But, you know, you get to work with Eddie and did you know him well at all?

Or was just, was it, was it a gamble to put Eddie in? Nobody, well, I think, you know. He did the Walter Hill movie. The Walter Hill movie and then Paramount said, yeah, he'd be good. And somehow that pairing came together. I didn't know him before we started. Of course, he was spectacular to see that talent grow and what he did in that film. And when I read the script, it was so intelligently written.

And I thought, yeah, this would be a great thing to play and have fun on because it was certainly different from, you know, anything I'd done before. And then Landis directing it because we made a couple of things together. So it was, you know, all the cylinders were clicking on that. Was it kind of like a 30 screwball comedy in that sense of this? It wasn't, in a way. It was so fun and easy to watch. It was written by a pair of writers. writers, Winegraden Harris, and they wrote it and corresponded, I heard, by fax machine to write it.

And I believe they did one other film, but that was certainly their most famous and well-known one. And so well-done and, you know, well-directed with great actors in it. Yeah, that's a AAA. I'm proud of that one. Jamie Lee is spectacular. Jamie Lee was so. She's in love with her. Everything was working and you eating the salmon out of your beard.

I mean, I don't know if it's an ad lib or what, but those are the texture things in movies where you stick with you forever. I think that was, I have a beard on, I see the salmon. I'm going for it. Yeah, there's the, you know, you come into the set, you know, you're looking around stuff you can use all the time. You know, we're desperate. How do I fill it with business?

So I have this of the beard and I love, there's a salmon, oh, yeah. I don't know if it was scripted or not, but I kind of remember it being spontaneous. I'm going to pick it up. beer aired it. I'm gonna go for it. But that's great because you look at scenes and and I almost forget that, you know,

we did Tommy Boy and same thing. You look at a day shoot and you go, is there anything funny here? There's a clip on with Farley. We're like, in the night before we're like, hey, can he bring a,

can you guys give us a clip on just for one laugh so we can, it's all about brake pads. It was hard to make it that everything funny. That reminds me that. You get there, you see a salmon, you see a beard, you want to shoot the beard.

And Landis was generous. that? Oh, about just grabbing things. Oh, no, he. So he was smart. No, no, he lets the performer go, you know, you know. And you mentioned Farley, of course, dearly beloved, dearly beloved, you know.

Of course. Mr. Aykroyd. Oh, gee. Oh. Could he be more in love with Dan Aykroy? It's unreal. I don't think so.

Coon hats, man. Cone hats. He was in the Conads. He played the beautiful part. Oh, he was good at Connads. Yeah, he was great. Oh, yeah. You know, when he would do stuff on the set and he'd move his head.

He'd move his head. and we're like, that's Akroyd, that's Bill Murray, that's Belushi. But the sweetest, the sweet, sweet, sweetest guy. Just a sweet, sweet, sweet man. Yeah. Just Zelensky. The name came back this year. I have a question.

You were the first. That's great stuff with his pants. Yeah. Pulling his pants up. He was so respectful and polite and church-going, you know, church-goer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We had a blast on Tommy boy. I remember one night when we were in like, I think you were showing us, is it where Rob Lo gets hit in the balls? I don't want to give the whole movie way, but when we, we're in like, we shot like 24 hours, and we had some factory in Toronto.

We got to go up there and we were getting tired. Magna auto parts. And yeah, there was the air freshener show, so many things. And then just to have you from the guy we love to be in the movie and then the movie worked out. I did. Oh, so much.

That's a good picture. That's a really good picture. The deer scene, I mean, that happened to Franklin and Davis, you know. Oh, is that deer came alive? A car, they went through the windshield. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I think that happens a lot.

Yeah. But I don't know how many times deer comes back alive, but that was the other. I think, I think in their case it might have. Oh, wow. Yeah. Frank was like, like, it's, wow, we got a deer in the back. Well, you've got to be here. We've got a show.

We'll take care of the deer later. Oh, I got to tell him. Sorry. We had Michael McKeon on. Remember Michael McKeon? Of course. Yeah, of course. I know.

His resume, it's like yours. It's exhausting in a brilliant way. And they're making spinal top again, I hope. Oh, I don't know. There's rumors of that. We don't ask the good questions. We just fawn, but we were talking about Connitz. He was my partner in Connitz.

And I was telling Dana that we were the immigration guys. Yeah. Kind of the bad guys, whatever. And it was peppered with, we didn't mention it, but I think Sandler was in the movie. Farley had a big part. It was his first movie appearance, Sandler. Oh, was it going on? Billy Madison.

Yeah, he sold the, he sold the, um, he sold the, uh, he sold the, uh, he sold me the ID. Oh, that's right, fake ID. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah. And we had Ellen DeGeneres, Drew Carey, Sinbad. I know. Every wheeler peppered that place. If you watch it, you go, whoa, hey, oh, look who that is.

It was a very good serviceable family comedy, and it certainly endures today, no doubt about it. Servicable. I think that wasn't in the pit. But they, well, you know, they were, they, he was always hungry for barely. No, I love coneheads. Yeah. I told Dana and Michael that he's, Michael didn't know this.

So, you know. It was supposed to come out at Halloween. They rushed it. Oh, is that what happened? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Stanley Jaffe there at Paramount. Prauded Lauren to get it ready. And Lauren and I were thinking, Halloween, Halloween.

No, we need it now. We need it now. So it would have done better at Halloween. But it did it as all of these things have a life now. Listen, nice. People wind up seeing them. Yeah. And when you're smoking weed in Washington Saturday Live in 1978, they come on.

And they're called the cone heads and their heads are like cone heads. That's the funny thing. And I wrote the thing. They're the cone heads and their heads look like that. No, that's good. Yeah. I didn't tell. I don't know if Danny members, I was telling them yesterday that, right?

You were probably narfling the Garthock at this point. But we were narwhal the Garthok. We were, Michael and I were in T-shirt and boxers to do a scene. And I was in my trailer and I said the AD, because I was so naive and so adorable and cherubic. But I said, hey, don't tell anyone and I can still work today. I do have chicken pox. And he goes, you have chicken pox? And I go, yeah.

But it's here where my shirt is and it's on my legs and you can't see it. And I'm in a scene with you and could have infested the whole. Oh, yeah. And he goes, okay, hang on. And they go, shutting down the sun. I'm like, what's going on? I didn't even connect it to me. And so they sent everyone home.

And I don't even know if you're working that day, but I was like, oh, my God. And so, and then someone goes, oh, that's going to cause a studio. You're in trouble. Everything was terrifying me to get fired. But wound up being a blast. But that's, remembering you have a chicken pox way late. Yeah. I know.

You didn't get as a kid? No. And I was such a weak little pus of a kid. I got measles knocked me out for three weeks, which was abnormal. When you were 37? No, no, that I got when I was a normal kid. Okay. But I was very frail.

You can't tell this athlete that sits in front of you today. No, that's right. Marathon runner. Marathon runner. Dana's a marathon runner. That was such a fun picture, Conn Hudson. And we got a great cast. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. It's, I'm proud of that one. I like that one. I love that. Do you, I mean, this is just fan type questions. Like, when you look at, you will be scared. You take a drag net. You take a.

be spared. You will be spared. I will place both of you on the protected rules. Say no more of it. Goodbye. Remember, I was behind Dave Thomas at the end. They brought me in for an extra scene. There will be. And I go ahead. Yeah, that was so good. I was just mock everything. You said, I just said whatever. I turned and went with the cone heads at the end. So this, you can order this on Amazon for like three bucks, right? For just people listening to like shrink when you see a celebrity. Were there two conad movies or just one? Just one. Hey, listen, I would do that.

character in a second. In fact, I have a story idea, but, you know, I'm too busy now. You are busy. You are busy. How do you sleep at night? At coneheads. No one's going to want another cone heads out there, Paramount Plus? No. Paramount Plus? No. Hulu is waiting. I know the guy who runs Hulu. Crystal Vodka, the movie. I'm going to text him. Yeah, no. I was on the Hulu there. I was, I did a little show called Zombie Town in R.S. Stein, you know, the goosebumps author. Yeah. So it's on Hulu now. It's called zombie town. And it's like, it's like, okay now, children of America, you're going to have to learn about zombies. This is an introductory movie about zombies for you, gentle and soft and kind of

funny, a little scary, yeah, so that you can step up to, you know, world of Z. What's that Z? World War Z. World War Z. I remember Lauren asked me when his kids were a little goes, I don't really understand Scooby-Doo. And I said, I don't really get why they love it. And it was To your point, it was the first time when they're a certain age, it's a little scary. The mask comes off. There's a haunted person. So that was the rocket fuel for that. You stepped them up to the exorcist.

That's right. I saw it at 17. I still haven't unseen it. 17 is even too early. Yeah. Well, we went in. I've never seen it. Don't see it.

I'm too scared. I guess it's brilliant. It's brilliant. I believe in that shit. I'm a paranormal guy like Dan. Dan, you believe in UFOs. I believe that they're real. Everyone believes in UFOs.

It's just where are they coming from is the only... But of course, there's... I know they're real. You can be a skeptic and say, oh, well... I'm not a skeptic, but I do have a question for you. Where are they coming from all different species? There's probably dozens of them. They come from the ocean?

There may be bases there. Go ahead. I love it. No, the question is... Look, I'm totally... Whenever I'm thinking about supernatural stuff, and I was go, we're here. So the greatest supernatural thing is that we exist right now talking here.

How do we get here? What are we doing here? So I'm open-minded to all of it. What I was curious about the United States Air Force that the sightings of the UFOs seem to be stuck in kind of a black and white, herky-jurkey 1950s motif. Can't they get more sophisticated cameras on these suckers so we can really? Well, there's more footage coming out.

And it is all governed now by the new, office at the Pentagon that handles this. And it is called the all domain because they go in water. They fly through water, a thousand miles an hour. So space sky water, all domain, anomalous, you don't know what it is, resolution, because they have to resolve. They've got military craft and equipment being exposed. So it's the all domain anomalous resolution office to figure out what they are.

And so that's, we actually have a Pentagon department now that's work. working on that or a branch that's working and you know all those sightings will be brought in by the military and brought in by civilians and and analyzed there so it's real again your question who where where are they coming from why I think a lot of them are just tourists I think it's not as scary a little bit because they and I'm scared of them even though I do is it dimensional well I should I think they they would have done whatever they're gonna done they're already here they've been here a million times they would they can take us out if they were that's why i feel a little easier they're not i don't

i don't think they're a threat however you know uh i'm kidding if you talk to some of the aviators down near marina del ray with the fire department the police department the sheriff's department helicopters and such they see them all the time and they seem to be bugging them and and flying them flying around and like challenging them i'm so do you feel in a way dan you were ahead of your time in a sense because now it's going more main street yes you were with the pentagon and And it's more acknowledged. And you've been talking about it for a while. Oh.

We've seen two here, unidentified media cops. Yeah, yeah. And my mother saw one. That was why I got interested in. My mother saw one in 1947, and she worked in the aircraft production ministry in World War II in Ottawa during the war in aircraft production for the fuselages on the hurricane. So she knew aircraft. And she said in 1947, she saw one on, uh, uh, the Spark Street there.

They're going to Ottawa now? Back then? They worked, yeah, yeah. They kind of buzz buying. They're going everywhere. Yeah, I don't think they want a formal relationship with us, but they will take advantage of us using their superior technology. Well, do you have any sense of being connected to 2001 of Space Odyssey?

Just the idea that we were seated here by an alien race still seems of fascinating. Yeah, you know, one of the favorite movies of a lot of people at NASA is the movie that that was made mission to Mars with had the face, the face on Mars in it. And the theory was... Gary Sinise? Yeah, I think so.

Mission to Mars. It wasn't the one with Matt Damon. No, no. No, it was one of Gary Sinise. This postulated that we were seated here. And there was some help was, you know, there was some help. Yeah.

And so a lot of NASA personnel see that as a kind of a viable concept from what I've, you know, what I understand. Well, of course. And everything's on the table. Unless someone has all this figured out. Have you seen any aliens? Because they have pictures of them.

I don't, I never know. Never seen a being. But you know there are, you know that people have seen pictures. Yeah, sure. Sure. No, all kinds of different shapes. And you know my poltergeist or whatever you call them experiences that are.

Yeah. Yeah, you really went through that. Yeah. And it was annoying to you that, your experiences. It wasn't something you enjoyed, right? It was... No, what? Well, the one that was the...

Well, there's many of them, but in this house we have, up in Northern California, it was built in 1912. There's three bedrooms upstairs. And so one night, and I didn't know what white noise was at this point.

Believe it or not, he just had not. It was the 90s or whatever. So I wake up to this, like an FM radio between channels, right? I'm going, why is everyone sleeping? So I walk around,

and by the time I get in the room, room, I don't hear it. But it was not a waking dream state. It wasn't like a nightmare. It was just like, what the heck? And so that room, I also had some, when I slept in there once because company's over, I had an experience there. But I've become less afraid of it because if it starts to happen, I just sort of go with it now. Yeah. Well, it happens to millions of people. Hans Holzer, H-O-L-Z-E-R. He was a great Ghostbuster, and he has a great number of books upon dealing with all of the things that he dealt with in his career. Yeah. Is that how Ghostbusters started as you just got into all that?

Well, my family was into it. My great-grandfather was a spiritualist researcher and all around the house in the cottage there that we had in the summers, which was the summer house where he lived, was full of journals and books and his writings. And so I was sitting there flipping through a journal from the American Society for Secular Research. And it was an article on quantum physics and parapsychology. And I just... went, okay, paraphrase psychology, quantum physics, the real terms, the real vernacular, the real research that's being done, marry that to an old style comedy like Abbott and Costello, Bowery boys, Bob Hope, and Dean, uh, Dean Crosby, who did ghost movies. Yeah. In fact,

hold that ghost, I think, is a movie with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin, and it's the first use of the term Ghostbusters. Somebody asks Dean Martin, who are you guys? We're Ghostbusters, he says. They saw. Where is it goes buzzes? By the way, just as an aside. Where ghost buzzes? I want to tell you. He says, yeah.

So that was the first use of the term. And it was a great tradition of ghost movies in Hollywood. I thought, let's marry the real vernacular or the real science, the real fact that people are seriously, you know, seriously into this research with an old style comedy. Now, as an aside, that movie, hold that ghost with Jerry Lewis and Dean Martin. Jerry Lewis does a walk down the stairs in the old castle set that it defies physics. The way he comes down those stairs and doesn't kill himself is amazing. He was a spectacular.

Was he trying to be... He was just coming down the stairs. Oh, just being... As like clumsily coming down the stairs. Not possessed or something. No, no, just clumsily walking down the stairs. And he, I don't know how he didn't kill himself. He was a masterful physical comedian.

Absolutely masterful. To your point. You got, you hung with them unless you must have known. Jerry Lewis? Yeah. Not really. I met the woman who played the ingenue in Cinderfella. Oh, yeah.

Cinderfella. And then I went and looked at a scene on YouTube of Jerry Lewis. There's a centerpiece where he's dancing around with the stairs, to your point, the physical comedy is breathtaking. Yeah. And it went on and on. He was directing it. You must have met him. I did.

Well, actually, I met, I talked to him on the phone. Schaefer hooked him up on the phone with me. one day. And Jerry and I said Jerry, can you, can you give me a gung-a-ung-g-g-mong? Give me a gong. And he, on the phone, I'll never

forget, over the phone, I heard, Nyang-h-h-h-h-n-h-h-n-h-h-h-h. It all comes from the Jewish Yiddish theater of the Lower East Side, the cats kills, all of that humor, the gung, the shoulder take, the spit-take,

the fork drop. Have you ever, if you ever, the fork drop's wonderful. You're sitting at dinner. Somebody says something and bang, the fork. That's all comedy from the Yiddish Lower East Side. You know that there's a wonderful expression for your show in Yiddish, the fly in the wall. And it goes, it's the flik auervant. That's how you say fly in the wall in Yiddish.

Flig Eiftervand. Let's get this, so we have this for our promos. That sounds like he's making. It's poetic. So the gung, he gave me a gong and all of that. that comes from that rich, rich tradition. Did you have other, like, heroes, like, did Carrie Grant ever reach out to you? Or other super, in the 70s when you guys were exploding?

Because Tim Leary and Davis were good friends. Timothy Leary? Yeah, Timothy Leary and Davis were great. I bought him. I bought him on our friends. I bought the last steak dinner that he ate before he died at the Marmot over there at the restaurant. And what did you put in it? Really?

It was already taken care of. And now everybody's doing it. for mental health reasons. And Timothy Leary, I met Jimmy Hoffa because I was going on to him. That's a big one. Giant Stadium, that's the last I heard. That was, yeah, yeah.

Well, you saw that movie with help. What's that noise? Met him. Heather said that. Lauren Bacall, I worked with her. I worked with Jim Garner. And Jack Lemon, I work with the Jack Lemon in a movie called American President.

And Lauren McCall was in that. Pete Siegel. Was that Pete Siegel? Yeah, Pete Siegel. Yeah. Yeah, and work with all great veterans like that. Yeah, that's what I was curious about. I was soon you intersected with them.

So neat, so neat. It's something special. When you left SNL, was there, so Chevy, we had Chevy on here. He was perfectly bananas the way we wanted. It was amazing. We're so mad we didn't film it. It was so funny.

Yeah, yeah. He was doing schick and stuff. No, his sticks and stones. His work with his fingers. If you never saw any other part of them to work with his hands, I remember he did something just like, you know, he's like, he's there, he's got the fingers walking, and then all of a sudden,

and it starts to go, and you just hilarious to control, you know. Well, we had this here, which is like 10 bottles on a tray, and he just waited, and at a given point, he just put them all down. He reached for it and it was just like,

they were flying, yeah, perfectly. But he waited. He knew, you could tell, he knew early on. That was his go-to. No, I love Chevy. No, we do too. And you stayed straight through. Like, he was the first year of S&L,

and then you stayed, how long do you stay, five years? Four. Four years? Yeah, and the reason we left was purely and sorely because, and we had to finish the Blues Brothers. Oh, really? Maybe it was a possibility we'd go back, you know? We went to Chicago, then the movie went sort of early summer, late summer,

autumn. But you were shooting. And we were shooting, and we had to go back. back to L.A. to shoot some of the stuff inside. The church scene, the soul food restaurant, all of that, it would be done in L.A. And we knew we couldn't go back. So I made the call to Lauren saying we weren't going to return for John. How hard was that? It was made a little, it was made a little easier because when Animal House was being done, they wanted me to play D-Day, and they wanted me to join Landisend and Reitman and, you know, John. And, you know, John.

in Oregon to do that movie. And I just looked and I just, John's gone, man, I just looked and I thought, you know, I can't leave Lauren here without a writer or an actor, you know. So I told him, I said, I'm going to stay. And I stayed on then. So when we left for Blues Brothers,

it was a little easier because I did stay on and I didn't leave for Animal House. Yeah. And there's like somebody, some analyst somewhere, some pundit or something said, oh, Lauren forced me to stay. Or was it, you know, you enforce the contract.

Lauren is not a dictator-slave driver. You want to go. You go. He's not like that. No. He encouraged us. He wouldn't want to look thirsty like that. He would say, hey, if he had to go.

Yeah. If you need to go, you know, that would be his thing. Yeah. And then you fell in love with his cast members. He did. To this day, he loves convenience. He did. My boys and my girls, he calls them.

Yeah. Yeah. No, he loves it. He loves them. You're no longer young people. You're just people. And people are. are either productive or dead weight.

It's my first day of work, and I need to make a big impression. Were you just checking me out? No. It's too bad. I see at least 15 ladies I need to talk to before my beta block wears off. My coworkers don't take me seriously. It's not a human. It's just a piece of meat.

Someone bring a gurney. When I came in in 86, because he'd had that five-year hiatus, constantly references to you guys, and it was so intimidating to me and it was like Danny did it because I'd come up with an idea Danny did that season two

and you know Chevy believes but you guys are the original and so there is only Billy Chevy Danny never the last name never said Dan Aykroyd never said Paul Simon

never said Paul McCarton and look how the show's going now so current so relevant and so extraordinary when you did Blues Brothers which is one of my all time great ones and I know you open for Steve Martin at the universe

so I heard that's a bad show of the century. Why there is a Blues Brothers, because John recorded the record from there. God damn. How do you do, how do you get Carrie Fisher? Was she Star Wars or was she? How did they go to be my girlfriend? Yeah. Oh, let's get into the Dan Aymecrowe.

Love line. No, well, because. It wasn't the Barbie part for her. She was good friends with John and just good friends with Penny Marshall and John. She was a whole. She was Penny's buddy and we just asked her to be a part of it. And then we fell in love. And we almost got married.

We had blood tests and rings exchanged and everything. And I was ready to spend the rest of my life with Carrie. And after we wrapped the movie, we got into Allier 24 with John and Judy. And we flew to Martha's Vineyard. And we flew to this house that Judy had bought me in the vineyard to be near John to plan future projects. Right. And I said, Judy, just buy me a house. I don't care what it looks like.

It was our first check from Atlantic Records. and she bought me a house and said, you're going to see your house tonight for the first time. And you're bringing Carrie home. So I brought Carrie home to this house I'd never seen. And it's night. And fog is like down and low. And we go in and walk in and they flip the lights on.

And I could just tell that it was not to Carrie's design sense at all. It was a mid-50s, a lot of modern furniture, very, you know, Eames chairs and stuff. And she, so that night was a difficult night. And then in the morning, I heard her talking to Paul Simon, her boyfriend at the time before. And I could hear her talking and hear, well, I'll be there and I'll be in New York tomorrow or today. And I thought, oh, she's leaving. So I said, you know, Carrie, the view is supposed to be beautiful in this house.

You should say, no, I have to get back. I've got to go back to Paul. I've got to go. I'm going back down. Please take me to the airport. Nothing rancorous or very amicable. I thought it was, we thought we were getting married. So I go, I drive her to the airport and get her on.

a plane, kiss her goodbye and say, I'll see you soon. We'll hang, you know. I love you. I love you. And, you know, she flies off and I drive in the Jeep back to the Martha's Vineyard House. And I'm kind of despondent. And I walk, I drive up to the house. And the fog has lifted. And I've got a 275 degree view of the ocean, the islands. And that this beautiful, beautiful promontory that the house was on. I thought, you know, she saw, saw that. by the day. We would have been married today. It's like Manhattan socked in. Oh, it's the only time we went. Is it always foggy? No, no, no.

And so, yeah, that mess. But we were good friends all the way right to the end of her life, of course. And Blues Brothers, I think it's one of those where a lot of people want to be around funny people. And she's like, if I, and she's a big star, but it's like, hey. I'm funny herself. Yeah. She's hilarious. Brilliant. She's great in that. Yeah, she's great. We had a ball, of course, you know, because we were making a movie and we were in love. You know, you're making a movie with someone you love. You can go to work in the morning with them. I can't imagine the rocket ship.

You know, I had my own little success there too Wayne's World. Anyway, but you guys, I'm doing it, David, there. Blues Brothers, when I first saw that, I was like, this is so electric on every level. Like, you're enjoying it,

you and John, the dancing and the energy of it. It was like, well, this is something new. Different, yeah. This is like really musical, too. Like the band was kicking. And then you guys were just so funny with all the shtick. To me, again, at just fantasizing about being on Saturday Live. Just those characters, don't get me started with wild and crazy guys.

Don't even start with that. Come on. I don't think I can do that guy no more. No, you can't play around with accents anymore. You can't have it. You can't even talk about the parts on a woman. And we look, they love our American bulges or what was the... Bulges, yeah.

Please, you will be shocked by my great bulge. You know, you can't watch it these things. I mean, I was so influenced by you guys, rhythmically, musically. What about you at Aretha Franklin? Oh, she was astounding. You had Aretha, I think. That is one of the greatest things. She was astounding.

She looked so cute in that waiter's outfit. She didn't want to wear the waitresses outfit. No, I can't. I get it. And then she's great. Debrain-Doulman, Landis' wife, the designer, designed this beautiful waitresses She looked great. It made her look great.

Yeah. She was a sport, man. It was even funnier that she had that. So supportive of us all the way through. She always wasn't. So was Ray and everybody. Yeah. And John Candy.

Yeah, we had another. Candy was in it. Legend. Yeah. And then we had Cropper and Dunn, who were Otis Redding's guitar players. So that made it happen. Now I still play with Jimmy, John's brother. We go out on, we have an active concert schedule.

We go out with a band that we got here from California and Texas that we put together over the years. and we got a, you know, we got a couple of games coming up. What's more fun than that? No, the music and I hear that guitar and hear just the organ and, you know, moving. I've got, you know, 78% of the moves left, so, you know. Pretty good. Last week it was 80, but declines. Yeah, I'm a low 40s.

I don't know. Yeah, it's not all clicking. Or it is clicking. God. So you're going along. there's trading places, there's Blues Brothers, there's all these stuff we could on Saturday Night Live.

Yeah. And then, and then, what's Dan going to do now? And then I don't know what the trajectory was, but then Ghostbusters was like, probably equivalent inflation adjusted, almost like gone with the win or something. It was like $300 million in 1984. That's right.

So like $800 million now or a billion. Oh my God. So what? Titanic. And you thought of it, the customer. That day, that day at the farmhouse where the seances took place where my great, great grandfather had seances from the 20s in that.

And I was sitting there reading that journal and I just thought, old style, Abbott and Costello comedy with the real science, marry it up. It's brilliant, but who's the first person you told? Well, that would have been Bernie Brillstein, I guess. Oh. Yeah, Bernie. I love it. And then Ovitz.

And then I turned a draft into both of those guys. and then we went to Ivan, and Ivan got it, how it could be fixed and made what it was. You wrote it fat, right? Well, not so much lengthwise, but it was a little darker. It wasn't the movie you saw, but it certainly had all of the stuff in there that became the movie. All the elements were there.

And then Ivan looked at it, and then Ivan said, let's go to Harold. And Harold looked at it and understood what I was trying to do here with it. And then we decided, what do we do about Cass while? And Harold and Ivan looked at each other. and said, well, if we could get Murray, we will give it to Murray. I mean, and then so we, he carried the ball for us. He was the master of those lines, those throwaway lines, his style.

One of the, probably the greatest comedy, romantic lead of our generation and maybe many, many. And him and Sigourney Weaver. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah, beautiful. Brilliant. Beautiful. It all came together.

It was just magic once a film works, any film. But when something like that, old and new, and then just connect so strong. I remember going to, you know, it was like Jaws in a way, huge lines, theater packed. Oh, yeah. It was a whole phenomenon. How fun to have that hit.

And because you could have screwed that movie up easily. I mean, it's a great idea. But everywhere along the line can know any movies, you go in where it's good and you go, God, where do we go wrong? The editing, the this, the casting, but to get it every step of the way and it comes out. Well, look at who was on it, right?

Harold, Ivan, the shooter. He had his great part. He was a great part. He was a great part. Moranus was a wonderful. Wonderful. Him and Sigourney and Ken. Him and Sagurni are big parts of why that movie works.

Great. Yeah. Yeah, no. Zool. Yeah, no. Well, and I was on IMDB today because I could not remember who Dan Aykroyd was. And so I looked him up. And even Ghostbusters, there's like 80 iterations.

It's like a cartoon of this. There's so many. Yeah. Because there's probably, I think there's, a new one coming out? There's, well, there's a new animated cartoon that they're working on right now. Okay, but is there a movie movie or not? I don't know what the status is with strikes and all that.

They're telling me not. Strikes over. Is it really? Yeah. Well, then in March, Ghostbusters, Frozen Empire with McKenna Grace, Finn Wolfheart, Billy, myself, Winston, Ernie, and Patton Oswald. Thank you very much, and Paul Rudd. Oh, sure. And Carrie Coon and...

You've already got a cast. We, and yeah, we, we are ready to go in March with a spectacular new release, a great new story, and it is going to be hot and really fun, scary, a whole new generation handing it to the kids. Really excited. We, we completed it in England, and it's going to be coming out in March. Oh, so you did do it. It's done. It's done. It comes out in March.

I just couldn't talk about it until this instant. I read about it. about this and then I thought maybe something happened. We have a... Yeah, gave me that blank stare. We have a scoop right now. I go fly on the wall. It's our first real scoop.

It is. Too bad this comes out in two years. I'm talking about it for the first time in any media right here. Yeah. So, yeah. Paul Rudd, you've got... Kelly. Pat Nosswald.

Yeah. Finn from Strangelswell. How about that? Stereical. As a genius. And a great, great comic actor. Oh, yeah. He is.

Great delivery. Yeah. Always, yeah. Any name ghosts? We got the Tic Tac ghosts from the Navy video. What's the plot? Oh, yeah, what's the plot? Or can you tell us?

Well, leave us to say that, you know, an entity is found in a psychometrically charged object. Too much. Thank you. That's all. I figured the whole thing out. Okay. I love it. I'm excited.

It's really good. And it's Jason Reitman? I'm going to do a pre-order right now online. Gil Keenan directed it, Jason's partner. I love it. Jason did second unit and they co-wrote it together. And of course the kids are wonderful. Oh, yeah.

McKenna, Finn, and... And you do, you're a guy? I do, you know, the enthusiastic, you know, wants to believe everything, you know. Yeah. Kind of a little kind of resentful that, you know, things have passed him by Ghostbuster in this one, you know, because he's no longer licensed. You always have that skill set of putting a lot of words together, really. That is true.

Like as a comic concept, you know. But, you know, that, does that something you did as a kid? It's like Danny Kay or something. My mother was French Canadian. And I grew up around French Canadians. And French Canadians, they speak very fast like that. He's not, no, no, no, no, you. Here in here, here, I mean, ma'u, no, no, no, no.

They talk a lot, a lot of fast. Bring me that right now. Give me the salt. Give me the pepper. Give me the steak. Give me the potato. You want some wine? You want...

They talk like that. They're fast. Yeah. The French Canadian. So I had this always, you know, and plus sitting around the table there'd be 14 family members. And, you know, you couldn't get a word in unless you interject it, injected it in there. So how did you go from like a 14-year-old, 15-year-old? And then you really...

Were you on SNL at 21 or 22 or something? Well, I was 23. So young. So just quickly, I mean, for your... Second City at 21 and 22. What, you're late teenagers? Michael's at 19. I worked with him on a CBC special at 19. And his show, Hardin.

The Heart and Lauren Terrific Hour. You were on that. It was on an offshoot of that. That's right. So you were like 18 or 19. You're on television in Canada doing sketchcom. That's right. That's right. 19. Okay. It's called a savant. Yeah. Well, it was it was called a subon. An early adopter. It was being steeped in improv. My parents sent me at 12 years old to Ottawa Little Theater Improv class. And so I was, I was a hard.

doing it sort of back then, you know. It just came to you. It's like Larry Bird. He said when basketball, he first got a basketball hands. He said the game came to me. So it just came to you. It was, it was, it was, you know. And then you worked your ass off, of course. Well, I was, it was, I was encouraged to pursue it.

And it was fun to do improv in that. Yeah. And then at Second City, I was learning all the techniques over again that I'd already, I'd already known at 12 and 13 years old at the little theater improv classes. Yeah. So started early, you know. It seems to me that in your, part of this. We're talking to Michael McKean and, you know, the Beatles and all the music of the

60s. And then the trundling along with Peter Sellers. And then you're all kind of new each other from 70 or 75 or, you know, it's very interesting because you were like the Beatles of comedy to me, the SNL cast. Well, you had the, you had the Lampoon crew. You had, you know, Chevy and you had Chris guest and Harry Shearer and you had Johnny Belushi and, uh, and, uh, and, and, and, and, and, and, you had the And then you have the Gilda, eventually, because Belushi stole her away there from Second City. Then you had the Canadian crew, Levy, O'Hara, myself, Candy, Moranis, Thomas. Yeah, that was. So there were two, and the Venn diagram kind of crossed, and some of those people ended up working with each other on various things.

Yeah. But I think my first, the first time, like, getting interested in entertainment, okay, I'm in grade three. Now, what the hell? In grade three, I'm like, five years old, maybe four or five. I'm grade three. So I go. You're 17. I was, I was, you know, I was, you know, five or three or four or five, I guess in grade

three or something. Yes. So what happened? And so they, they were doing an Irish St. Patrick's Day concert and they compelled me to learn McNamara's band. You know that song. da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-a-da-da-da-a-da-da-a-da-a-le-le-le-le-le-le-le-le-le-le. So they put me in a green bowler and a green vest and a green pants and leprecon shoes,

put me out on stage with a sync track. And I, you know, they made me learn it. They made me stay back from school to learn it. And so the concert comes and we go, I go to the concert and, I start singing and I'm like, oh, I'm just going to get through this, God. I remember it vividly. Oh, God. And I get to the end and finish and give the tap dance finish.

And they're howling the crowd. Whoa, really? You like that that much? And I'm thinking to myself, oh, wow, that's good. And so I was the big applause. And they take me off stage into the wings. I give back my bowler. And I'm thinking, oh, man, wow, that was very, very interesting.

And then two of my friends, Ricky and Greg come up, Rick Hollingsworth and Greg Chittavis. And they come up and they say, hey, yeah, that was nothing, man. Like the bad donkeys in the bad donkeys in over in the, you know, in the, in the, in the, Pinocchio, you know, the bad bad. Yeah, you're not so. Don't get cocky. Yeah, yeah, yeah, think that was good. You think that. Come here, come on with us.

Let me show you something. Let me show you this. Let's show you this. They take me across the street to the funeral home, across the street from the church hall where I did the concert. So I go from the elation of singing McNamara's band and getting cheered to two minutes later walking into the funeral home where seven bodies are laid out A family that had drowned in a car the night before Seven the father, the mother, the sisters, the brother

These cock blockers don't want you to be famous. Jesus is it. Look at this. And I walk in, I'll never forget that as long as I like. He'd rolled his car in the Gatnell River and drowned. And so they bring me from, you know, my performance goes across the street, euphoria to, whoa. But are they jealous?

I didn't. Well, that was, yeah, yeah, Nambi, Pambi singing. And they look at these dead people. So they go over and there were the seven on a baby coffin, too. Jesus, great crew.

I didn't do any jigs for years and years afterwards. That turned me right off any kind of performance. That's a true story. Isn't that weird? Oh, wow. That's horrifying. Seven bodies. The family and all beautifully preserved.

Never forget the dark eyebrows and the mother and father. I'm still. processing this story. The baby outfit killing. Exileration and they, yeah, yeah. At age five, six. They ruined it.

They ruined, yeah. So I didn't dance or sing for years after. Weirdly, my first gig was in a funeral home. But that's a whole other story. David? I played a dead body in that scene. No, you went on SNL, so you get there, what's your first big sketch that works?

Is it just the very first show? Bassomatic. Oh, the first sketch that works was the one that Garrett and I did as home invasionists to prove to the homeowner that their house was vulnerable. And so we break into their home to prove it was vulnerable, yeah. And then pitch them on an alarm system. Is that first show? That was the first sketch I was in, yeah.

First show, yeah. And that was the Wolverine one in the cold opening was John, the Wolverine with Michael O'Donogne. And then we had the home invasion sketch. You were after the monologue? After the monologue. When was it? Oh, that's a good spot. That's the home run spot.

Who was the host? your first show? George Carlin. George Carlin. I waited on him once at a holiday inn. I brought him oatmeal. He goes, oatmeal, drop the O and you have that meal. Did he really? Yeah. Why is there no

blue shoes? Big shoes, little shoes, brown shoes, girls' school shoes. It was, that was. He was working on a bed. Don't tell me about Richard prior to. I was a waiter at the holiday in. I waited on all. Oh, because it was next to the Circle Star Theater? Yep. Waited on Rich Little. Everyone said, go to you. Which holiday in on the Highland? No, this was on the

Peninsula was a theater in the round, like be near Michigan. No, no, Peninsula, south of San Francisco. Oh, I saw South of San Francisco. Yeah, I see. And they all stayed at the holiday. Yeah, yeah. So they were, you know, I gave Richard Pryor Damromba, stuff like that, you know. Yeah, well, you know, I find the great people are really nice.

The ones who are really great are nice. And the medium talent people aren't so nice, you know. I've kind of, I think that's true. You know, he was a great, Richard, or, well, prior. and Carlin. They were both, yeah. And they would have been gracious to you. Very nice.

I did a movie with Pryor. Oh, yeah. Very sensitive and sweet and... Yeah, great, great. Vulnerable. Did he host when you were there? What's up? Did he host?

Richard Pryor hosted. Sure, I remember helping to write that show. All right, sir. Fair enough, sir. Yeah. What's that problem? That's right. Yeah, Tom.

That's Tom. I think I was doing Harry Shearer doing Tom Snyder. He did a great Tom Snyder. Oh, really? Outstanding. Outstanding. Tom, everybody. I remember saying, I love Tom Sennie.

I was a kid, I didn't know. Dan, I'm so young. No, I'm not. But I was watching it going, I never thought of being on Saturday Live. I just was, every kid loves comedy. And I was like, oh, my God, and that's Tom Sennar. I was just starting to get why it was so funny. I didn't really get the depth of how funny it was.

I'm like, that's like the guy I just saw. And it was so good. It was like that dumb little studio and it's a little lighty and you have a cigarette. And all that stuff, I mean, Fred Garvin. Was his name Fred Garvin, male prostitute? That's right. Little lady. Say for the lady?

Yes, little lady. The name is funny at the time. Fred Garvin. That sets his title and he announces himself their way. But you know, the copycats and Rich Little in that generation, Frank Gorshman. Those are the shows I was watching. Oh, I love those impressionists, Rich Little, to Fred Travelina. Oh, that's right.

It's extraordinarily gifted. They were great. And that was like magic to me. But when you guys came in and did them in a different context, it was just postmodern. Yeah. You know, it's just a lot of great impressions on the show. Fartman was spectacular. And we've referenced you and Phil.

There's a connection personality-wise. So you both have so many interests. Yeah. Outside of being quasi-effortless performers and then would go read these journals. He was a pilot. Yeah, he's a pilot. He was sailing. He was...

I loved him. I loved him, too. He was wonderful. You did Bilko with him, right? Yeah, that's right, Steve Martin. Yeah, here's to Phil. Yeah, the rest of the soul. Chris, John.

And a lot to be thankful for at this time of year, Thanksgiving and Christmas. And the old vodka there in the skulls is available in stores all over the nation. All over the world. If you want to get a gift out to friend. Well, it makes a great gift. That's why I'm on this kind of little tuna. here because it's gift-giving time of year and we want to remind people that Thanksgiving and Christmas there's a gift you can bring home and you know everybody wants to get ahead.

Get head or get a head. Where do you get it? Is there a website? Is it? Worldwide web, crystalhead vodka.com. It's in most liquor stores across the country chains and otherwise. Crystalhead. And I think it's got a pretty big brand name. Yeah. I think people really are aware of it. But it's always good to stir the pot because there's a lot of people. A lot of room to grow. So, yeah. See? The bottle should be on your shelf if you have liquor.

It just looks cool. Yeah. It tastes good. It should be on every bar. Yeah. And the world. Crystal Head just in just a few seconds before we get out of here. How'd you come up with that name?

Well, it's based on the legend of the Crystal Heads, which... From Indiana Jones? It was referenced in the Indiana Jones movie. And they made a movie about it. In fact, we were developing... the concept kind of right in parallel. And I find out that Steven's doing this movie about Crystal Heads. So I actually called him to take a meeting to tell him, you know,

we're not copying your enterprise here. We started at the same time. And it takes two years to build a project like this. And so I said, you know, when your movie comes out, we will be out on the marketplace. We'll have been out a little before. But I explained to him that we, and it wasn't kind of a plagiarism. And it wasn't really. Crystal had there were 13 of them.

What if he stole it from you? No, the lead time doesn't work out in terms of like when both projects came to fruition. But the Navajo, the Aztec, the Mayans were supposed to have had these heads. And they were used for crystal balls. And so we decided we were doing this vodka that had no fluids that were pollutants, glycol, sugar. Lemonine, clean. And so we wanted to sell. the idea of enlightened, purified drinking of beverage alcohol.

And this was the perfect package to put it in it, put it in. Yeah. Very good. Yeah, it came from that. I have one more question before this young man takes off. During that, when you leave S&L, you did a lot of big movies. You probably got offered some. Any ones that you wish you did or there's movies that you got offered?

Other than James Bond? Yeah, I would have liked. Spies Like Us? I don't. Oh, Spies Like Us was so fucking great. I don't know that I was offered anything that I turned down and it became, no, I don't think so. No regrets where you go. I should have done that one.

Spies like us was unreal. That was you and Chevy. Yeah, I did audition for things that I didn't get. Oh. The People versus Larry Flint. Oh, really? I auditioned for the part of the lawyer, played by Edward Norton. Oh, okay.

And I auditioned for Meles Foreman, you know, and I read it a couple of times. Don, done. Do you work with him? My addition for Amadeus. Oh, did you? Yeah, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, stop acting. Oh, really? Stop acting.

He goes, stop. He was too bored with me. Oh, no way. I think we're ready to move on. Yeah, yeah. During yours? Well, I didn't know what I was doing, but I saw the movie and I go, okay, I see. They wanted a blonde-haired cherubic guy, boy genius.

Did you go off script and do chopping broccoli? No, but I... I want to be on Saturday Night Live. Yeah, I know. That was my thing. And you guys did and you were great. And, you know, today your stuff endure is just as strongly as anything that we ever did in that first cast. You know, if you look at church lady and all your impressions and, you know, and everything, you know, and your flight attendant, of course.

Oh, yeah. A classic, a classic. Oh, yeah. All of it. All of it. Great. All of it. My theory is this, is that music and comedy just have to reflect the times.

And so we were for our time. Yeah. And then I don't ever want to be a grumpy old man about Taylor Swift. She's no John Lennon, you know, that kind of thing. I said and tried to really do a deep dive into Taylor Swift because I want to know. And she's incredibly skilled. And same thing with Saturday Night Live now. This is their era.

And they're great. And they're great. And Higgins said, Steve Higgins, just said, Lorne wrote the Constitution. And then everyone interprets it for their time, for their era. No, the show's been really great. Really great. The Halloween show is outstanding writing. Really, really, very smart.

Is that name? Gurbavazzi. We had him on the podcast a couple days later. He was a great comic. He's a really good writer. He was so excited about that. He'd only done talk shows. Quality.

Quality work. Yeah. That's nice. She still watched. Oh, yeah. Well, when I'm awake, I mean, I live a very, very cool. Oh, it's life right now. Very quiet.

Good. I'm not in the cities. I'm in the country. That's where I wanted to be. I used to have a Grand National that was pretty sweet. Yeah, right. I right. The old Black National, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Black Grand National. Store you go to and everyone knows your name kind of thing. No, yeah. Oh, yeah. Going on the motorcycle or take one of the old, you know, the old cars in. It seems to me just from afar. You've always had one foot still in whatever you call regular life.

I would say. So, yeah. Recycle friends, get a steak. I don't know. I've heard things, but it seems like you've always kept that. Well, of course. For sanity, yeah. But I don't like living in cities anymore.

I prefer to live in the country just because I have tinnitus, you know, the ringing. And also to sleep at night, the blackness. You need the blackness to sleep. And where I have a place that the mountaineers coming in. And I can open my eyes or close my eyes. Black. Black. Yeah, yeah.

And dead quiet. All here is the coyotes sometimes. times throw a party. But it is so... So good. The deep sleep you get there. It'll prolong life that sleep. It really will.

Mine's being short and I'm about 40 feet from sunset. It's quiet and this is a fortress here, David. I just here. This is where I want to be during the Great Reset. Plus he's got a lot of food. He stocks a lot of food. This old thing. Dan, first of all, we've all

looked up to you. We, we, we, we, we're lovely guy. You're always nice. I interviewed you for Spin Magazine and I got an SNL. Yeah. And you're so cool. And just the fact that you still generous everything and talking to us. I love hanging with you guys. We love. just bullshitting about the old days. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there is an expression Canadian nice and I went to Canada once and did a gig and there. There is Canadian nice. There's Minnesota nice. But Canadian nice was like I was just at a table before I was going to go out there. And a guy was like, he saw me look at some water. Hey, did you like some water there? I can get some water for you. So there is Canadian nice, and Mike Myers yourself.

Yeah. It's very sweet, and my wife's Canadian, so I'm impartial. She's very nice, too. Sure, sure. She listens to the podcast. I just did Calgary last weekend, and it was nice. Yeah, it says Canada is just a cool country. It's not a rumor.

It's real. Yeah. Thank you, Danny. It's been such an honor and a pleasure. You've been a big part of the puzzle of our little project here, and we're so glad to have you. We'll hang again soon. Yes. See you around campus is what I say.

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