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Episode Date: December 20, 2025

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21 plus. Plus, terms and conditions supply. Drew Barrymore. Drew, Barrymore. Unversely loved. Mm-hmm. Very sweet. And I've known her since the old days right around wedding singers when I met her.

And we talk about that. And I saw her out the other night. And I never see her. She's one of the ones I just never see. I know. She works. Perfectly sweet and lovely. As you would think.

Yeah, she was when I saw her, when we were vetting our friend Adam Sandler at the Kennedy Center on her recent, I just ran into her and I'd seen some of her show and we'd had her on our podcast. And I said, you're really, really good at this. And she just paused and she's very sincere and her shoulders dropped. And she said, really, you think so? She's very vulnerable and sweet. And we enjoy talking to her one of our favorite podcasts. She's easy to talk to and goes anywhere you want her to go to. So I think this is a fun one.

Here, here she is Drew Barrymore. Bill Hader as kind of a, his voice has a treble softness to it. But then when he did Daniel Day Lewis, it just went incredibly deep. So his range is like really kind of interesting because his talking voice is very sort of soft, you know, here. And we had a great time. And then he's like, but I totally. I like that I try to do Daniel Lee Lewis and you guys both do it And I forgot I used to do it like crazy

His was so great I feel like we you know at some point we'll just tell I was going to say yeah that if they said you were the best ever I wouldn't slug him in the face But there's 50 people that could be mentioned You know there's it's just people love to have lists Yeah I don't want Maya Rudolph to go what's what's going on

But he's definitely up there Well, he just, it's kind of like Will Forte. That middle knots, that early to 2010 or 12, whatever. Nauts is the grossest. I know. Had a lot of talent. That's why I listed all of them. And I forgot my Rudolph.

There's a lot of talent. Where's that lady? Oh, my God. You guys, I've been here the whole time screaming. It was on fucking mute. Oh. I didn't want to interrupt you. I was like, oh, I guess they're going and riffing.

I just sit here. You thought we were ignoring you the whole time. fly on the wall. I was listening in. You were talking about Maya Rudolph and the knots or the aughts or whatever we're calling them. And I literally was like, oh, I guess when they're ready, they'll invite me in. But these are like the high class problems of our current world. You're on mute.

I can't see your screen is off. This is the new verbiage for us. But I actually have been sitting here waiting to jump into the double Dutch. literally I'm so excited that you guys would have me on your show

I love both of you so much I'm in I'm double dutching with you right now and I'm loving my wife said oh Drew's so sweet she's so fun

and has so much energy and I go you think I don't know I'll tell you what happens but already you hear exactly what she promised well she's so kind and she's definitely

right about the energy part I'm a lot I'm like a lab Labrador and heat I like the heat Yeah I've heard people say that Yeah

I am I but like With yeah Well that was my Go ahead No go ahead I like to interrupt Then I when I'm happy

When I'm intense I think I'm a whole other metaphor But when I'm happy I'm like Labrador and heat panting Probably trying to grab your leg You know Interesting

Well I read I read Some things about you last night, and it was truly impressive and exhausting how much you've packed in. I mean, my God. Labrador and heat, I'm going, and how young you are from where I'm perched, it's like, damn, you got, where does that come from? Where does the, where's the motor to do all this and then become a producer and now this? And I don't know, I can't even, uh, maybe, maybe a hard question to ask, more of an Oprah question or Larry King. I love it. I'm like, I did not expect the how do you do it question that's traditionally

a woman to woman. Oh, well, yes, and a mom working mom. Yeah. Yeah. I like like that you guys are asking it because we're real thinkers, Drew. Well, we love we love women, basically. I and I love and I love funny men. So this is a match made in heaven. A win win. I do it by burning the candle at both ends. I actually am here editing our next issue of a magazine that we're making. Of course. And I think about it's weird. A lot of people will ask that question. And I think I've been so passive about my answer because my humility wants to go no no no I don't do that much let me turn it back to you yes um and um lately I've been for this magazine um and trying to think of uh some content for it I've been looking at the how and the we not the how and the eye

but I think that it's really messy and I was brought up sort of we all lived in that world where we would see those articles where people were like 8 a.m. I drink my coffee and I'd do this. Okay. Mark Wahlberg. 2 a.m. 30. I do this. You know, and I never lived that life and it seems so type A and unattainable. And I was more the you never know where the day is going to take you whimsical or I will burn myself to a crisp and then I'll find that pocket of rest and wellness somewhere else. So I don't I don't know how anyone does it. And if they do it in an organized fashion, they have my deepest respect.

And if they feel like it all feels like putting out fires and kind of burning yourself out. and it's all like a higgledy-piggledy mess and it's super comedic and there are chickens running through the frame and like rando funny shit is going on. That feels so true to our, to my experience. And I would never preach to anyone that I have it together or that I'm a blueprint.

I am just a work in progress. And so far I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm shocked in some ways that, like, I am a relatively healthy person because I feel like I don't live a very healthy lifestyle. Jeez, and that's been Drew Baramore today. We appreciate it. No, listen.

That's amazing. Go ahead. I have a question. No one argues that she's busy. Her IMDB looks like a CVS receipt. And if you could see her Zoom, it's like, it looks like house and garden. Me and Dana look like we're in a bunker in Kabul. Yeah, we're.

Her place looks gorgeous. She looks like. Fresh as a daisy. Fresh as a daisy, gorgeous. Only because I have hair and makeup because I'm at the show. And by the way, on my headstone, will for sure say death by inspo because I'll have inspired myself into the grades. Like,

I can't even look at a woman's shoe without going, do you mind if I take a quick picture of that? Because that color tone would just be so great for the packaging on the next thing I'm making. Like, I cannot. I can't stop. And sometimes I feel like I wish I could just, like, have, like, quick temporary, you know, I think that's probably why I drank so much back in, you know, most of my drinking.

What do you mean? You had a problem? Just shut it down. I was like, just shut up. Dude, at seven, you were like, I can't take it anymore. Dude, you know what? Yeah. Yeah.

At seven, I was paying the red. And that's a lot of stress. That, yeah, a fairly uncommon thing for a human being in America to be paying the rent at seven. True. I can relate. Dana, I didn't tell you this. I was a child star too. I, when I was, my dad was in advertising, he was like a madman type of guy.

And when I was five, I was pretty cute. I had a good run from five to eight. So when I was five, and my brother's, my dad goes. why don't you be in this like Taco Bell commercial that we're filming because they were part of it and he goes they need some kids we'll throw you in we'll give you a 10 bucks and I was like holy shit so they put 10 one dollar bills out for me on my desk I probably got a thousand but they kept it you know and they go here's your 10 and then I and then they took nine of it and I go so you already took a cut I'm sure before I before I saw it then I get 10 and then you go we'll hold it and I go, wait, what's going on? And then I had a dollar left. They go, go nuts. You guys.

Drew's like, I hear that. I was still, I didn't put down my waiter's apron until 23 and a half. You guys start right out of kindergarten. Kind of a head, start. Can I ask you a question, Drew? Because you kind of talked about, like Reese Witherspoon. Okay, she's another, like, how does she do all that? And I heard her kind of own it, like in the way men can sort of own it.

Like, okay, I get out of my way I can do anything, basically. Yeah. Is it difficult for you to have that gear because people would say, I'm nice? They say you're nice. But, you know, where do you have that part of you that has an ego? Like, can kind of give yourself a pat on the back. I don't. So that's why you just keep going.

Yeah, and I hate those. And I know Reese. Um, so I, I, you know, she's just incredible that she is a good like hot question mark of how the hell does she do it. Um, I, um, I, I feel like I had so much opportunity because of starting as a kid that the gender effect never, um, had me. It never had my attention. It was squandered early because I started working as a baby and, kept working so I never had the um anything other than I could do all these things and they're my opportunities to screw up or make something of and um there were men and women giving me those opportunities um I just wrote the forward to the new ET book because it's the 40th anniversary

and I was talking about Kathleen Kennedy and Melissa Matheson you know I saw women at work um so So I just really didn't have that I need to be aggressive or act like a man to get anything done. I always felt permission to check in with my idols, the go-goes and Pippi Longstocking, who were all girl all the time, but they did everything that boys did. And it became my ethos on making Charlie's Angels was, why do women have to pretend to be men in order. to look strong and capable because the truth is in my world, if I was kicking butt with my girlfriends, we would totally be talking about last night's date while taking the bad guy down. And bad guy could be, again, bad guy or bad girl. I've never been affected.

Luckily, I've not had the unfortunate ingenue treatment of being held back or as I started a production company at 19. and it was really in the era of the power suit woman, I was, like, intimidated by that and just felt like, screw it. I'm going to be a girl with my corduroyes and my chance sport backpacks, and the work is going to speak for me,

and no man has ever kept me down. They've only helped give me opportunities, as women have. And I'm just, I'm a girl. And I think the one thing that's always stuck out for me about men, first and foremost, was that, like a lot of my comedy influence when i was young came from men there weren't a ton of female comedians there's so many more now i feel like the playing field is so much more equal um so i identified men a lot with funny and that was a good thing i didn't think of men as my

bosses or anyone who was going to hold me back or i had to be like them i've had to be like them i've I've had fortunate liberation my entire life like that. And I hate boss bitch. I hate it. Boss lady. It sounds like you're hanging a pair of balls on you with a bitterness. And I don't like that because I don't have one bitter bone in my body. However, if people have to put, you know, metaphorical balls on or a cape or do any mechanism to empower themselves, that I stand back and do not judge.

Because everybody has their process of how they get to bravery. She has the best answers. I know. Oh, my God. They're unreal. Oh, David Spade. I love you so much. I mean, my God.

We have to talk about S and Elsa. By the way, back to E.T. To have two women that high up in the chain must have been nice back then. And they must have had an even keel about them because you look up to them and you don't see them. I mean, there is equal up there with everybody that are running a huge, huge movie. That's good. That's a good influence early on. And Steven Spielberg was flanked by these two women.

Frank Marshall was there, but Kathleen Kennedy and Melissa Matheson. And so that was. Melissa wrote it just for our viewers. Melissa wrote it. She was married to Harrison for it at the time. They were very close. They had the script for years. They were making the Indiana Jones movies.

They were all a tight-knit group. And she had this script. It was called a boy's life. And, and yeah. That's what E.T. was called? Yeah, it wasn't called E.T. until after the film was made, I guess, maybe in marketing, I'd have to ask Stephen. It was called Little Gross Monster for a little bit, I heard.

Cute little alien. Okay, good. Dana, ask her a question about S&O. What are you doing? I know. I'm so, I'm so, I'm a little starstruck. I'm so excited. I'm fascinated by your life.

I, I, I think it's so cool. I'm starstruck by you guys. I mean, literally, you're about to bring up us now. And I don't know where your question's going to go. But boy, did that show change my life in so many ways. But in no way did I participate the way that you guys have. Tyler Reddick here from 2311 racing. And Bubba Wallace.

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She's five. I think I'm tied with Scarjo, who I'm pretty sure is going to beat me because. She's great. Oh, yeah. She's married to Colin. She's got a fast track. We're going to book her for three a year. Yeah, and she makes, you know, big movies that are going to, you know, I'm sure she's going to beat me, and I love her so much.

And we just did the show together. And if anyone's going to beat it. But here's a record I do hold that I think I will be, it will be bittersweet when it happens. I am still the youngest. Yes. House in 1982 at seven years old. Yes. And that one's going to hurt.

That's going to be hard. That's going to be a tough one. That's in really no danger. I don't know. I wonder, how has it not been taken? How the hell is that not happened? Well, because it's child abuse. Hey, kid, you're going to, I can't even handle it.

I was crying when I hosted and I'd done 200 shows. Yeah. You go back there and you're like, wait, what do I do? And the band's playing. It's terrifying. I'm 47. and I can't even. But was the monkey a surprise?

Yes. Yes. What's that? It was a non-sequit of David. Yeah, go ahead. We explain that because that was awesome. Tim Kaczyvinsky, who I had just an adorable crush on. I just thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

They didn't want me to have to deal with an opening monologue. And they sort of addressed that in the monologue. And they say instead, we're going to do a Q&A with, Tim and Drew, weird to say your name. And so he asked me questions on little index cards. And I- Adorable. And then at the end, he says, we have a surprise for you. And they bring out this monkey.

Chimpanzee, yeah. I don't know what the point of it was other than to be the cutest thing and the most delightful thing. the most delightful surprise for anyone, let alone a seven-year-old girl. I remember so many different emotions. Stephen Spielberg came, and he's very much probably the only father figure I've really had in my life. And he was very parental. And on the show night, he brought Robin Williams, which scared me to death because I was so obsessed with Robin Williams.

And that felt very intimidating. to me and um who's blabbing yeah somebody's auditioning back there sorry sorry um tell him you don't want to get spayed mad they're all exactly um so um robin williams so robin williams um and it was such a weird mixed bag because the there there i was in the opening scene which i didn't realize until way later how hard it is to get in the scene before the credits um Like I spent my young adulthood fighting to get in that opening scene. The cold open. And I was in it and they all circle around me and I'm sad about something and they are rallying me up.

And then they said, you know, would you like a glass of milk? And I remember my line was milk. I'm a Barrymore. I want to drink and make it a double. And, um, seven years. Seven is like, boy, little did I know how true that would end up. You were like, all kidding aside, make it a double. Was there, was there a family history of that at all or?

Oh, my God. I mean, literally, they all died of consumption. Literally my grandfather died of consumption. Um, I think Ethel and Lionel were a bit more put together. But yeah, total hedonists and, um, and artists. Um, and along. line of alcoholism and and yeah so it's highly genetic obviously it is highly genetic but i'm going to be the one who breaks that in our chain break it yeah i haven't i haven't had a drink in almost three

years and um it's it's a really good feeling what's your happy place how do you calm down then do you meditate to take a bath do you run around the block how do you calm that that thinking brain without alcohol. Yeah, and I'm not sober. I don't work a program. It's just I realized my relationship with alcohol was the most toxic one in my life. And when I'd been trying to master since I was nine years old and did start drinking. And that, yeah, I had to find a way, I had to find a different way to live.

And I can sort of trace every negative thing back in my life. There's probably alcohol dancing in there somewhere. And it's like the best breakup I've ever had in my life. And it's so confident and quiet. And I have a bar in my house. I serve people drinks. I have no hangups about it. I'm just like so psyched at this choice to finally cut this like cancer out of my life.

It's something, excuse me. Well, you feel better. I mean, there's a lot of positives. If you can get through it, it's a lot of positive. And so how did you manage? all these movies and this massive career while imbibing. Was it sort of binge drinking or would you, how did you manage people look the other way?

Yeah. I think, you know, when you do burn the candle at both ends and you are prolific, that's part of the fooling yourself. Like, but I'm doing all this work. So I'm functioning. Yeah. And that was definitely my justification. But I was more of like when I partied, I was the crazy one.

Like I can think of another S&L alum, Chris Catan, whose nickname and I for each other is rooftops because we would get wasted and jump off my roof into the pool. And I had a lot of fun with it. And it wasn't all bad. And then I think when kids came into my life, I realized that this was no longer sustainable and I made a hard choice and it's the best one I've ever made. When it was just me in my life, I guess I didn't matter to myself enough to find the balance. My kids mattered more to me than I did. And I found the balance and it didn't come easy and it wasn't pretty. And we all wish we had done things sooner.

But I'm here and I'm so happy to be here. And that in itself, I think, has replaced a ton of meditation and jogging and new agey stuff and self-help and self-care. just being a person who isn't corroded with guilt and dysfunction and blame like I had a bad girl narrative growing up so every time I did something wrong I went straight back to well you're a bad girl so what the fuck else do you think it's you you're the bad girl and if it's kind of your thing like she's the drinker and the fun party girl then you're like it's already sort of factored in so no one's going to get mad that's kind of what they want 100% I'm the good time girl. And I did have a good time. I wasn't willing to give it up for a long time.

I was balancing it in a way where I was working my ass off. I work hard. I played hard. And that was okay for 30 years. And then I think growing up isn't overrated. I'm totally into it. I really, I am, I feel so lucky to have arrived at a more peaceful, saner place. I'm 47 and I don't know if it, I just only know my own journey. I started so much younger than other people in many ways, but I think a lot of my wisdom came later and that's okay. I don't even ask people with their ages because I don't give a shit. I don't think it's going to tell me everything about you.

you're going to tell me, if I have to ask people what their ages, I'll literally say what's your number because it's not indicative of your journey. There are people who have clawed their way through life at such a young age and been dealt such strange cards. And there are people who just can't seem to mature no matter how hard everyone around them is trying. David? They won't. Did you say David?

No. That was a joke. Look at him in his mansion. he's very successful but he's the listen I was when I was nine years old my mom would say

you're not drinking till you're nine like Drew Barrymore and I go right that's a weird we had a tough rule no I've got my shit together Drew no I don't do you

but Drew no no we're comedians is about you we're damaged little clowns yeah we're little clowns it was a it was an interesting less than growing up being such a lover of male comedians, you know, so many wake-up calls on who used the sort of torture as an excuse to, you know, behave a certain way or be kind of an

intense person or, you know, and those who didn't, you know, and I would definitely gravitate towards the ones who didn't, but I, it, I, and my mom. By the way, when I was a kid, not only did I get to do S&L at seven years old, but my mom worked as a waitress in the comedy store. So I now have a character that I do for the digital on our show named Mitzi Banana Moore, and it's all dedicated to Mitzi Shore, really, and she's the inspiration for it. And I get to ask questions that I can't get away with on daytime television. And I got a wig and a look and a whole thing.

and I, you know. That's great. Sounds so funny coming out of you. Do you have a lot of Mitzie stories? Because we have stories about Mitzie, you know. Polly, sure, was my babysitter. Oh, wow. Yes.

Sorry. Was everything okay? I think so. Him and Donovan Leach used to like look after me sometimes. Like our parents didn't, I mean, my mom is an extreme case. And, you know, but like, A lot of people were in that time, like, we did not parent back then the way we do now. And it's crazy, the scrutiny and the helicopter parenting and the guilt and the books and the rights and the rungs and the rungs and the do's and the don'ts.

Yeah, my mom just left me with Polly and Donovan while she and Mitzie were off at work. It was fun. I loved it. And my mom gave me such a rich history on who each and every. comedian was and what their body of work was and what Steve Martin meant and what Robin Williams meant and who these people that came and did a set that night or here's the person up and coming. It's very in my DNA. And so for me getting on this podcast with you guys, like I'm the one freaking out. I don't know what so much of my life would be without the things that you both have put into the

world. And comedy is a very healing thing. I call it medicine always. And I've been trained like a little seal to appreciate and understand the power of when someone makes you laugh, they take away your pain and stress. They give you a respite from your trauma and your damage and your worries and the things you got to do and the things that have affected you. You are liberated and free. in that moment because your chemistry changes. You can't laugh and worry at the same time. I mean, by the way, the more you're worried, I hope the more you are laughing

because it's the only way you're going to survive it. Well, this leads me to a question because you're giving a background and what comedy meant to you and learning this in real time with you. What does it mean to have hosted SNL for you? So then you go into America's Comedy Palace, basically, and you host it six times. And what does that mean to you and how thrilling was it for you to then be part of it after the age of seven?

And then you're an adult, mature, funny person on that show. Thanks. What is it? I don't know. You have six minutes to answer that question. I really feel like that show is a. an institution. And it's a living, breathing tree.

It's a giving tree that new leaves come out of its branches. And these leaves are these people, these artists. Such good answers so far. Yeah. And I was so poetically, you speak like a poet. Yeah, it's unreal. Have you written a book of poems? You have, haven't you?

I don't I think. Yeah, I do write poetry. I love poetry. I read a lot of poetry growing up. And we get to bask in the shade and the light of that tree. And it's like it formed me so much as a human being. And I'm happy to say whether it's successful or not. I don't know.

I'm not objective about myself. I never want to be. But when I was lucky enough to get the show that I'm doing now, which is a talk show. It has my name on it. I actually asked for it to be named something else. They said, that's not how this works. I said, fine.

We'll go with the household name. You have a great name. Yeah, it's a cool name. One syllable and then three syllables. It's just, it goes, Drew Barrymore. It's just a cool name. Thank you, Dana Carvey. Dan, Garvey.

That ends in a smile. Um, I think, um, I didn't ever thought of that. Um, it's true. Um, I, I leaned in so hard to my S&L training for this show. Um, and a couple examples are that when we launched a pandemic in 2020, it was a very scary time to find a voice. I felt like it was, um, in order to be quiet. and be a good listener and be a student and learn. And so that was really intimidating. But I

tried to tap into bravery to be funny and have a show that really celebrated comedians and go hard on comedy. It was... Go hard. I love it. It was scary and I think it confused a lot of people and especially in that moment like what the hell is this pandemic here she comes again and um the Drew's news segment of the show from which I fought for since the pilot um I kept trying to explain it to everybody and um obviously there is this section of a magazine called the week that's called it wasn't all bad and it's just these tiny baby size paragraphs that are so funny and uplifting and weird and then weekend update and then you know i just kept saying i just like weekend update to me is is a drug i i i'm on that

feeder i watch it every week i've never i never i don't miss it i i i i love finding out information in a funny way. You could call it satire. You could call it pop culture. You could call it comedy. But like that news desk, I had a picture of Walter Cronkite, the weekend update desk,

and like the week magazine. And I think everyone was really scared because they were like, well, that's very written. And I was like, no, I know. I'm not going to write it. We're going to report. stories that give people hope because there is good news out there and there are life affirming

things and there are weird happenings and interesting findings. And we're going to be an aggregator for that. And then we can do commentary on it. I think Chelsea lately, honestly, it was a really interesting. Oh, yeah. You know, she did a format where they really commented more on like gossip and pop culture, but it was so much fun. And no one had done that. And she had a panel. And she had a of comedians and it was delicious and nobody had done that um you know drew during your during the pandemic it's even harder because it's an uphill battle everything in the news is bad it was so pessimistic and so rough that you're fighting through that clutter and if anyone just turn to the channel and see you they're like give me a breather here for a second i didn't know if i would ever be one but i knew

that i wanted and i thought i want to be a bright spot and not a blind spot i want you you to come here and not think that I don't understand what's happening all around us, but there is beautiful things. There are wonderful people. There is that good. And if we have to be reminded in life affirming ways that this battle is worth it, great. Then that's what I want to do. And how do I take us out while not seeming like I've lost the plot or I'm not in and aware and civic duty-minded of everything that is really happening in reality. And it was the weirdest seesaw ever to balance. But I would say that Saturday Night Live has been my biggest influence in my life.

Mm-hmm. Jesus. And now that I got to do a show that's not a movie or not a script or not a rom-com that probably involves a lot of people from. the S&L alum, you know, you can, you can see that love and that honoring and that adhesive sort of admiration I have for male comedians because I've spent so much time, you know. Well, how about Sandler and Fallon and you did movies with both those guys? Like, how crazy.

And I have to say that. I got to be in Wayne's world is Birgin-Kirgin-Kirgin. Yes, Beergan-Kirgin. Can we hear a little bit of Birgin-Kirgin-Kirgin from Wayne's world, too. By the way, I really feel like that was the, like, I'm, I, I was worried, sweet it, like anyone was going to be mad at me. Like, I made a real joke out of the accent because I didn't really study enough for it.

And I, it didn't matter. It was funny. I went for the broad comedy. And I was like, did I spend people with that? Oh, God. People's got to stop being offended. No way. But it was, I'm vegan cooking.

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What is it like to be able to have that, like, Jimmy Fallon came on this. show the other day and he's married to my partner. They fell in love on Super Pitch. So he's like, we're family. But we did one episode together here on this show where we were like, let's try impressions. And like I suck at impressions. Like what's it like to have that kind of access in a snap of a finger and be able to do any voice? Like I have to study and like take it so seriously that I almost lose the freedom and the whimsy. I got to learn it so well that then I can play because I've got it so fucking down that now I feel liberated and free because I've held onto it so tightly.

What's it like to just be like, ha, here, play, fingertips, access? Well, I don't know exactly what you're saying. But I think I've got a bloody idea about something you're trying. Michael Cain, everyone. Michael Cain, if I have to say it. I didn't know I'd. Listen, you're tremendous. Everyone says, excuse me, many people, Drew Barrymore, you, your show's terrific.

It's terrific. Excuse me, many people are saying. It's all inflection. Yeah. Yeah, and I just have fun with it. I'm in awe of, like, there's certain people do certain impressions, and I just love it, and I'm on awe of it. And Jimmy Fallon, his Neil Young, you know, is like insane.

Oh, his Neil Young is so good. He has so much talent. You know, I've talked to people there like he's with Justin Timberlake and they're doing, they're choreographing something and they go, Jimmy just one time. He's got it. And then he can sing and he dances and he does all these voices. And he's such a great, great talk show host because he's so such a great audience. But I think we're all so influenced by that Renaissance variety human that can pull out of the ether or have a premeditated. approach to it or access to both. Well, what's one that you learned? You talked about learning one and really owning it. Yeah, do you have a good one, load it up.

Do you do Chloe Feynman? Sorry. Jesus. I'm sorry. That's my favorite thing. Who is that Oscar? We've done dozens of these. That's my favorite moment.

Thank you, Drew. It's the most real moment. Thank you. I'm sorry. Now you're definitely the coolest. Oh, God. Good. Oh, good. I, um...

All right, that one's getting to my house now. It's just getting to me. Oof. Let's see. What have I eaten today? Chili dog, I can tell you. No, just only, only quinoa, like a quinoa porridge. It's pretty boring.

Boring. I, uh, oh shit, what was the question? Let's make fun of Sandler for the end. Oh, well, we have a lot of Sandler questions at the end. We got a little, let's, we got a Sandler question. We like to clown on him. I mean, God, do I just, I love him so much. You got some monster movies with him.

Adams made a lot of great movies, but I think 51 dates is like one of his very, very best. Because it was such a complete film and it was so emotional at the end. You know, didn't you find that to be an extra special one you did with him? 51 dates. You've done three. Fifty first dates. Fifty first dates. Or 51.

One. Originally, another title change, it was called Fifty First Kisses. And I think they thought that was too girly in the marketing. Like, dates is more gender neutral. Now, this actually became a really big study from me about men and women. This is where I really did take on gender. So Nan, my partner, had found that script. And it was a drama that took place in Seattle. And funny enough, she, like, wanted Reese Witherspoon to do it.

She was like, you're busy. I believe in Reese Witherspoon. She was a total fan. We've all been fans of hers forever. I've known Reese since I was 14 years old. Wow. And so she had me read it at a table reading. And I was like, oh, my God, this is the best script ever.

And we wanted to get attached to it as, producers at Flower Films and it disappeared overnight. Like it just someone gobbled it up and then her and I tracked it for the next like, I mean, years, several years. It went through different big directors and big actresses. And we just, Nan and I were like determined to track where this script went. And all of the sudden, it finally matriciated. relates over to none other than happy Madison.

Happy Madison. And that is to anyone who doesn't know is Adam Sandler's company. He's always done it with the same people. He always will. He's such a loyalist. And it was everybody I knew from the wedding singer. And. Oh, another great one.

Yeah. I love that movie. Oh, another monster. Well, I stalked him. I was like, I know that you and I are supposed to be Catherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy, except for probably through more of like a Marty Feldman Buddy Hackett lens. I'm not fancying myself, Catherine Hepburn, here. I've got purple hair and a leopard coat on and you're like sporty sport.

You're sporty spice. So nothing about this physically says that this is a match, but I am convinced, Adam, that you and I are supposed to be cinematic soulmates. And we did the wedding singer together. And then I think it was like 10 or 11 years later, I found out the script went to him. I ran into my trailer. We were filming Charlie's Angels on the Sony lot. Happy Madison was on the Sony lot.

And instead of running over to his office, I thought, I'm going to type out a letter for him. So I got in my Olivetti typewriter. And I typed out this letter to him hysterically sobbing. And this, I think the power of a letter, I've had multiple things happen that have changed my life for the better. or in palpable, powerful ways for a letter. Yeah. Don't deny the power of a letter. And I said, I know we've talked about maybe coming back together.

We set ourselves up real well in the first one, which kind of fucks us up for the second one because the expectations are going to be really high for both of us. And we can't do something that is less than. We have to do something equal or maybe even more than. and I am convinced that this is the movie. And I had someone run the letter over to his office. He showed up at my trailer, Barrymore. What are you trying to do?

What are you? Oh, boss. He said like, why do you like this movie? We're trying to make it into a comedy. And I said, oh, my God, really? And he goes, yeah. And I go, but okay, interesting. Well, damn it, you cannot lose what is so fucking important about this movie,

which is how do you make someone fall in love with you every day? And the poetry, like, as a woman, I've never been more fucking moved in my life. You can't wash that away with goofiness. And he was like, yeah, but we know comedy and we know what guys want. And I said, and you know what? I know what girls want. He goes, well, then obviously, you've got to produce it with me. And I said, well, obviously, we've got to make this movie together.

And he was like, so it's happening. And I'm like, is it happening? Really? Wow, what a great story. I love it. We went to work right away. And we got flower films, which was me and Nan and Happy Madison, which was him and the boys. And we sat there and we rewrote the movie based on what we thought.

like what we were all looking for women's side yeah women's side boy side yeah and this was in the day where as a producer early on I you know I was told you know men make the decisions about where to go to the movie that weekend and the girlfriend will go with that and that's a gender stereotype that I just thought oh god that's crazy all right well I don't know what to do with that information but thank you for telling me that and we tried to make it this balanced seesaw. And I, we met with directors and it was in Pete Siegel, who, you know, I always think I got lucky and had a knack for seeing things in directors that they

hadn't had in their work before. And with Pete Siegel, I knew he was the guy. I knew he got the tone. And this was going to be such a challenge to straddle. like whale sperm flying in faces one minute and trying to connect with the human heart and move people in the next scene. And I was like, this is going to take a very unique conductor to pull this all up and make everybody happy.

And I knew that Pete could do it because of our conversations. I knew he got it. Pete did another big comedy, Drew. What? Tommy boy. Oh, he was your director 10 years before, which is another really, really great film. Isn't that crazy? Look at your face.

Oh, my God. I didn't even realize that. That is a fucking masterpiece. Can you believe? I was saying, when you just said Pete Sigel, I go, you got the right guy. Oh, my God. Tommy boy. I mean, that's an iconic movie, David.

Iconic, like history books. Well, I love Tommy Boy And I'm thinking For you guys to balance that The team of you, Sandler And Pete And then you throw Rob Schneider In a coconut bra or whatever he did

Oh my god Ola! The best Oh, chopin That's a real guy he was based on A place we stayed in Hawaii Schneider does these great funny characters

But it's interesting Drew you say that That the bones of it was a drama Because that's still Whatever you guys did It's kind of what it is It resonated by the third actor.

When he's on the boat, he sees you again, it got me reclaimed. I mean, I took the ride with it. And that's hard to do in a comedy all the time. It's very hard to do. It was my life and very much with the show that, again, I am lucky enough to make. And we fight so hard for it over here. We have the best time making it. But making a show and broadcast daytime in this time is really challenging.

and we're trying to find new ways to reinvent it. But I want to be greedy in life and have all the tones. I think we have all the feels and therefore there are all the tones and there are all the life experiences. And no journey is devoid of tragedy and laughter and love and heartbreak and death and loss and ecstasy and sex. And, you know, maybe children, if you choose to go that route and, you know, relationship. It's just, it's all the things.

And so I don't like it's music, you know, and it's visuals and cinema. Like, it's books. It's everything. It's everything. And I want so badly to put everything in a blender. But then I think the trick is you still have to make it your own. You have to be you. but I love all the all the tones and I 50 first dates is definitely a fun tonal example that you can

kind of do both at all and really well done really well put together but I'm aiming for that for everything in my life can it can it like maybe the north stars can be simplified down to heart and humor maybe you're like Paris that Ernie's Hemman call it a movable feast. Oh, of course. That's a beautiful book. Yeah. Well, that phrase is just sort of encompasses kind of what you were saying.

The majesty and the symphony of life and all, you know, slings and arrows and ups and downs and all better philosophers than me have spoke to, but to live is to suffer and have joy every day. And we had a joy today visiting with you. We did. We got to let Drew go. I was a top job host in a previous life. I'm quoting Hemingway perfectly. It is such like, I was so excited to do this with you guys. I thank you for choosing me.

Thank you for having me. We're thrilled. Thank you for everything that you've done. I just love and admire you. And I'm, I'm. Well, you've brought an energy and a different point of view. And you're, you know, you're so far sort of an outlook. liar, it was really great to get you on our podcast. And here you used to speak to all this stuff.

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