Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - RE-RELEASE - Eddie Vedder
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To be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was kind of looked down upon.
I can see that.
But the one at 10, I was pretty hammered.
That was a surprise.
Well, they sent me the script.
Dana, we were going to, we were going to.
Yeah, for a moment.
I was excited for S&O.
I couldn't believe you were even possibly going to do that with me.
I was going to.
And the next thing, you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate.
it. Oh, that's right. I didn't really agree to that.
We got Eddie Vetter back. Here he is. Republished. If you missed it, you love Pearl Jam. You love Eddie. One of the great voices out there.
Cool shit, dude. We talk about some really cool stuff. It's always fun to talk to a world-class superstar, singer, songwriter, musician, Pearl Jems, Eddie Vetter.
Yeah. Dig it.
And good dude.
Got so many hits.
We break him down.
We break him down.
We break down.
We squeeze him.
We shine him.
We polish him.
We push him back out there.
And we fluff and fold him and put him through a car wash.
Here he is, Eddie better.
Thanks for coming on.
We're starting.
What's starting?
What you want to talk about?
Hi, Eddie.
Can you hear us?
Hey, David.
I can hear you great.
Good.
Good. You know, Eddie, I have a cool hat like that, too.
We've traded hats before.
Are you sure?
Yeah.
There it is. You still got it.
Wow.
It's a little sweaty.
Because as you can see, because I'm a bit of a rocker and sometimes I sweat when I'm working.
We're kind of rockers, too, in a way. I mean, not in the way you are, but, you know.
Oh, I would say absolutely you are.
No, no, we're never were, I guess that's the pinnacle in a way as a little kid of just in a band.
I mean, I was in a band with my brother.
You know, I had a Hardy Boys book as a snare and a kick drum was a basket and you know, one string guitar.
We all start out that way.
And then at some point we go, um, maybe not my, when the money's not flown.
When the money's, no, I got out of that in high school.
but what do you want to talk about
do you like to talk about your Netflix special first
you can do you can run this show any way you want
and then we'll um
well you know what
I mean the as heartbreaking is the
the EB subject can be
um yes
though also hopeful
another heartbreaking thing that
has been on my mind
uh was the loss of Catherine O'Hara
and I just wanted to
Look, I'm getting chills already.
You know, really only having met her five different times over the years, you know, and compared to the way you know her, you know, even I was just absolutely gutted.
And I just, I wished all the people that had never had the chance to be in her presence and to be in her presence and to,
have a laugh and she was she was everything and more that you'd expect or dream of her being she was
just such an incredible energy and that loss is is so profound and that's why that's been on my mind
for sure yeah over here too with me and dana yeah i spent more time with her than i did but man
that you can't find anyone that doesn't love Catherine Eyre out there.
Yeah, and just an effortless, brilliant performer,
always making the choice you don't expect,
making her peers laugh and the whole world laugh.
And her presence, just no apparent ego or whatever you call that.
I mean, she knew who she was, but it's just, I don't know if it's Canadian or what,
there's John Candy and others.
They're just sort of like extra extra.
And so Marty short as well.
Marty short, yeah, another.
Yeah, I was like to say,
Memorial at the Catholic Church this past weekend.
And it was really, really emotional.
And Marty gave the eulogy, and he was special,
yeah, funny.
Yeah, they always got to make some jokes because it's so heavy.
It's so hard.
Because she would want it that way.
I mean, they, you know, comedians kind of, you know,
want the music to carry on, really.
Of course, we're all sad, but we have all this stuff of her brilliance to share for a long time, forever.
I heard her sister was in attendance, obviously, but Mary Margaret.
Yeah.
Who's put out some great music that affected me deeply.
Oh, really?
Yeah, she had a great album, probably even in the late 80s.
I think Michael Stipe helped with it.
It was called Miss America.
Yeah, there's a, if you watch, David Sandborn used to have a show.
David Sanborn, yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that show.
Late show, and he'd get all these interesting musicians together,
and she, I think the song's called When You Know,
But if you look up her on that show, it's such a cool performance.
And you can see the sisterhood there.
It's kind of interesting.
We have this in our world, too, because I was looking up some of, you know, the bands of the 90s in Seattle and all that.
And I was just going to say, and then it had a list of like 50 other what they were calling grunge,
which I want to ask you about the names of rock over the years.
punk and grunch and he's a hard rock, alternative rock, you know.
So you must have known and know so many bands that didn't break through, quote, unquote,
and maybe that wasn't even their goal.
I mean, the goal for me was always that this would be my job, and I'll see how it goes.
But that was the dream.
What about you?
Well, oh, and before I forget, night music was the name of the David.
David Sandborg, Night Music, wherever you get your David Sandborg.
Night music
variety shows
Well you know
I kind of
My main after I graduated from
Things like Jackson 5 and Motown
When I was a kid
And then I had kind of some
Older brothers
Because I was in a
Group Home thing that my parents helped run
So then I was turned on to a lot of
Sly Family Stone and James Brown
And kind of more adult
Motown music and Stacks and all that.
And then there was kind of Beatles,
but then it became the Who and the kinks
and to the jam.
But the 60s British stuff
and stones, et cetera,
you know, that seemed like the most exciting time
to be alive, you know, when I was 15,
listening to enveloped and engrossed and all that British invasion stuff.
It seemed like Tuesday nights at the marquee for the Who and, you know, all those bands getting
together, or Hendricks showing up and blowing everybody's minds.
Yeah.
That seemed like the coolest time to be alive and you would read about it and think if I,
what it would have been like to, you know, I was born to, you know, I was born to,
late, you know, if you could have, and then in the wrong place, if you wanted to be part of what was
kind of one of the most, if not the most extraordinary periods of music. And then kind of waking up
one day, I remember almost to the day, waking up and looking around and all of a sudden
being part of a scene, a legitimate,
seeing that was a community and was all very supportive of each other.
And so of all the bands of note, you know, Soundgarden and then Alice and Chains,
and then first there was Mother Lovebone, which turned into Pearl Jam, but was Green River
before that, and then Green River, half of it turned into Mud Honey.
Mud Honey.
It's like the fastbacks and the U-men and, you know, these groups that, you know, these groups that,
Yeah.
Didn't quite.
Different levels.
Yeah.
Well, and I, Dana, you mentioned it.
You know, maybe they, that wasn't part of either their goal or their ambition.
Because to be honest, there was a real thing in Seattle where ambition was kind of looked down upon.
I could see that.
That's what the vibe was from afar.
Like we're not trying to be cool or commercial.
We got something to say.
It actually hurts us the bigger we get.
I mean, you guys took off.
It seemed so fast.
It probably was not as fast.
I don't know if anyone had a bigger first album.
I mean, it's like sort of like, just.
Was 91 that out?
Because there was, I looked up in 91, some monster albums came out in one year.
I think you probably heard this, but it was like Nirvana, Pearl Jam,
I think it was maybe Metallica, Van Halen, Guns and Roses, Use Your Illusion.
I was shocked by how many bangers in a row in an eight-month period came out.
And we tried to slurp them all over to S&L.
We didn't get everybody.
But one of my early shows was you.
Sharon Stone Show.
Sharon Stone.
Phil Hartman.
Oh, yeah.
I still have a...
You had a good...
pocket there when you got on yeah go ahead you have something with Phil you got a
photo a Polaroid was love it and Phil sitting at the end of the night and I came
across those recently and and it was powerful to see and you know not only having
been like a devotee of the show since staying up
late when I was 12, whatever it was, it was just such a formidable yet completely enjoyable
experience to actually, you know, be in those hollowed halls.
And I still remember making friends with a couple of the old dudes, you know, the crew guys
or the guy who sits in silver chair with the Saturday Night Live kind of calligraphied on the back.
and, you know, going back and seeing those people over the years was always real exciting, you know,
or getting to meet Don Pardo or, you know, all that stuff is...
Oh, Joe.
Eddie Veller.
You came on twice, and I saw in my deep research, even though I know you a little bit, but I think the second time you came on, you got three songs.
That is so rare.
Because I think you had maybe better man or daughter something.
You had three.
And the first time it was alive and something else.
And I thought, holy shit, look at this spoiled dude.
You get three they roll in with.
I forgot about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a big deal.
It was to us.
We were like, shit, man.
I don't think they told us until after the first rehearsal show, right?
So you do a first show at six or something?
Yeah, dress rehearsal, yeah.
In between, they said, do you want to do one more?
Got anything else?
What that means is one or two of the skits or whatever.
Yeah, Gap Girls got cut for you.
Thank you.
I don't think it was based on what we were offering.
I think it was the lack of good sketches.
Yeah, everything bombed.
Yeah, we bombed.
Norm was doing news at that point?
Was it Norm?
Was Norm doing the news?
It's a good question because it was 91 and 93.
It was probably...
It was Kevin Neeland and then to Norm?
Oh, it might have been Kevin.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It might have been the end of Dennis on the first one because 91.
That was probably my first year.
Yeah.
And Eddie and I are very close to the same age.
We won't say any numbers out there, but...
Yeah.
You had a birthday recently and I was like, okay.
I'm a half step up.
How is that?
Yeah, it was fun.
I'm a half step up.
So when I heard the 90s sound come in and from Seattle, let's say,
it did feel like something new, its own little mini renaissance.
It was different.
You know, there were hair bands in the 80s and stuff.
There was, I don't know, it was a different sound, which I appreciated a lot.
I just love rock.
I love whatever you guys were doing.
I mean, but I was-
Poison out of business.
Poison.
Well, I really want to pick on those bands, but you know what?
It was sort of a shift.
It was a shift.
It was very cool.
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There's only two quick things I wanted to ask you very quickly, just about, because I heard about the Who and Neil Young, you maybe like them.
But I thought of Roger Daltrey and you, and I did connect the dots between, there's some symmetry there with a big voice and also can go really soft.
So who's next?
The A side, it's maybe as good as anything that's ever been recorded.
it in my mind. And then Neil Young was maybe the father of grunge with Russ never sleeps.
Or hey, hey, my, my. Electric. Gong, gong. You know. So I heard you love those two things.
So I just wanted to co-sign that. Well, yeah, I think Neil has been given the moniker of
Godfather of Grunge, not just because of the flannel, but because of the sound. Yeah.
And his sound up close, you know, one of the very fortunate things, having worked with him and playing live, is the sound of his amp up close.
It's like standing next to an erupting volcano.
For sure.
Or the biggest wave at Yama May Abay crashing under the shore.
And then he seems to kind of lose.
himself in this way where he kind of starts shape-shifting and kind of turns into like a shaman
and then he seems like he's an old Indian and and then he turns into like a young kid and
and you're like in the cage with the lion um it's it's yeah it will vibrate your souls uh
yourselves it's unique because he looks like he's almost struggling or sort of spastic in a way
when he gets into that trance and then when i listened to his solo on quartets the killer which i got
to hang out them a few times and told him what it meant to me how that song first of all it's like
and then his solo in that and no one plays like neil there's others equally brilliant but he
has his own lane it's this magic you know magic yeah
Yeah, he channels, you know, he really channels.
And in order to do that, you have to be in tune to, you know, the energy, the, you know, whatever's out there.
And that's a skill in itself, you know, beyond, you know, the notes seem to come not from a scale.
they seem to come from a divine
to stay a child or be in touch with
that when your higher consciousness hadn't kicked in
and you're just being playful
like a four-year-old drawing
and yet you're a human adult
and then when you get in touch with that
that part of you, boy, it's a lot of a creative explosion
but Neil always felt like he was there somehow.
It's like a child up there in a way
in the purest form.
Well, in the way you just explained it, I think of some of the stuff we watch you guys do.
You know, there's still that playful and improvisational.
You know, you could say it's from doing a lot of reps,
but it's also, I think, it comes from, you know,
being, still having maintained that freedom and freedom,
flexibility of you know because then that's what becomes you know so funny and and so spot on or
or so quick you can i think like music and stand-up as you know it's probably similar in the way
that i could do a show and in three nights same theater and then they're all just a hair different
and no one really notice,
but I can tell this crowd is a little like this.
I was more like this.
I kind of adapted to that.
And it's funny how they can be a little different every night,
and maybe it's not as noticeable to people,
but maybe it is.
But I think that's what music is.
It's still the same set.
I'm still doing what I'm doing.
Like, you're going to do the same set list, let's say.
But you can tell some nights are a little different,
and you're rolling with something a little harder,
you're getting into something a little different
that you have before,
and that's kind of the fun.
of it is not just a rubber stamping it's it can be it can go almost anywhere and do you get nervous
before you play yeah i still do dana doesn't get as nervous but well uh when you're dancing for your
donuts like you're auditioning for laura micha and and you're 30 years old that's a different
kind of nervousness but now i do feel responsibility for to
I, as comedians, we're supposed to kill, quote unquote,
we're supposed to destroy.
We're supposed to levitate the room.
Slay.
Slay.
And I think that, yeah, I don't know if you have this,
but if a night's a little bit off,
the voice in the back of your head is still giving yourself notes a little bit.
While you're seeing while they're playing,
you're doing pretty good.
You're doing pretty good.
That's not going well.
When that goes dead quiet, then you're in the zone.
And nothing matters except,
expressing the rhythm of the words that you want to do in that moment or if it's nonverbal,
which is even better. And you want to get to that playful state and you don't always get to it.
That's why when it happens, have you had a moment like that in the studio or a live recording
where you just went to another place and then you're listening yourself back and you go,
man, they call it being in the zone, you know, it's fun. Yeah. There was a vocal on the last,
the last record. It was a solo record called Earthling.
Yes,
2022. Andrew Wyatt, Ringo,
Out in John, and Stevie Wonder.
Andrew, yeah.
Andrew Wyatt,
of course, every album.
Chad Smith.
Oh,
Jesus.
But it was funny.
I found out later there was one of the vocals.
It was put together of two vocals.
And one was at about
five in the afternoon or evening.
And then the other one was at 10.
once we got it put together.
You can't tell the difference.
But the one at 10, I was pretty hammered.
Yeah, we get that.
And it was kind of amazing.
And I was in a different form of being in the zone.
You know, I was just feeling it.
And by that time, the words and the phrasing had come together.
But I was just, so I remember that, or I remember not remembering that.
Yeah.
And then hearing it back, I thought, wow, that's pretty cool.
And didn't realize that the vocal, that they had been five hours apart, but they actually sounded.
Did you tell the difference in listening to it?
No, I couldn't.
I was surprised to hear that it was the two.
You know, listen to your speaking.
voice it's kind of uh your singing voice i i wonder one of the first time you about holy
shit i can sing because it it is a voice you're one of the voices yeah you know there must
it hasn't happened yet that's not also good we all think everything is still blossoming
this is this is very nice to hear i'll take that i have some more
You're the voice.
I mean, you could just go on at Google and Google your name.
Who are the?
I was guessing top rock voices and I scribbled some down.
I don't know if you'll agree, but I was like, mine are right, so you guys can agree or not.
Well, I was on the list.
I mean, I don't know.
We'll see.
Tiny Tim.
We're going back.
And then I got a shot.
If you start with Tiny Tim, I think I might.
90 Tim got mentioned on the podcast.
That is the first.
Tiny Tim was the very happy carrot top of his.
Yeah.
No, I, you know what?
I know the ones to get mentioned a lot.
I mean, Axel's got a very unique voice.
Robert Plant, of course, the basics.
But Bon Scott, would you give it up for Bon Scott?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Sickening, Dana.
I love Bon Scott.
And it was so hard to replace.
ACDC still crushed it after, but God dang.
Bon Scott was so interesting.
There's Bowie, Steve Perry,
Curveball, but Steve Perry.
Or what journey was, the notes that that guy hit, yeah.
Pretty impressive.
Eddie, you agree.
Even, I'm not saying even.
Sting has a very unique voice.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, Sting's voice can cut through the clouds.
And, you know, he does some early stuff.
sometimes friends will come over and I'll play him stuff they have never heard.
He worked with this German guy called Eberhard Schoner.
And he just does some insane stuff with his, at one point he basically sings the phone book,
meaning an article in a San Francisco paper or something.
Yeah.
And what he does with it is so extraordinary.
What you look at.
Not to mention he's incredible bass player.
Yeah, because he's always in the pocket.
He's not outside of it.
He's not, he's just, he's simple for himself, he says that.
But when I listen to synchronicity and the police,
and I hear Stuart Copeland and I'm going,
they're doing reggae, rock, jazz.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And just Copeland, you know, and of course, sting.
Very casual drummer that was, I think he was there then.
Very, I think I was a little starstruck because I was like,
oh, shit, is that Stuart Copeland?
I never see.
Wasn't Ringo and Stuart Copeland there?
You told me, and I was so jealous.
at one of the EB events.
Actually, that was my, that was my birthday.
How's your birthday?
Last year.
Were they your birthday gift?
I'm going to hang out with Ringo.
It was quite peppered with musicians that were.
Okay, lots of head turners.
But by the way, back to EB events,
I think, you know, a lot of great people play these events for EB,
which you work tirelessly with.
And it's such a great event.
And it's such an important.
you know,
thing to help.
And we meet the kids and they always,
the performances are great.
The kids are always so friendly and sweet.
They're having the toughest time out there,
which we can talk about.
But some of those nights,
I even think,
I think I did it once.
I think Dana might have done it.
Zach Alfenakis,
always good.
There's always like comedy and music.
I think Chris Cornell maybe one night in the old days.
So we are very blessed with those parties, but they're very, very actually important events,
which ties in this documentary about EB that Dana and I are watching.
It's very, very strong stuff and it's very pulls at the heartstrings.
I will say that.
Well, we're really feeling fortunate that it was, that it's now out there on Netflix.
I think you mentioned.
Netflix, a matter of time.
That's all you have to matter of time.
Matter of time.
Yeah, it will serve as a education on, you know, anybody who asks has curiosity.
Anybody who asks us about, you know, what is epidermalysis belosa, what is this EB?
Yeah.
This can forever serve as the answer to all the questions.
and you really get to know not only the kids and their families and the challenges,
but you get to meet these, you know, incredible people working on this whole community's behalf,
meaning the researchers and the genetic scientists, genetic researchers.
You know, they say this thing about heroes,
something like, you know, heroes aren't made.
It's more people face with, you know,
incredible circumstances or facing difficult consequence.
And that is where these heroes are born.
And this film is, it's really full of them.
Because you see how heroic and courageous these kids,
are. Oh my God. You see what the families go through, with the siblings go through. And you also see
that these, you know, genetic researchers going at it day after day with the funding that's provided to
them through these fundraisers, it is, it's such a, I'm so glad you get to know, I'm so glad you get to
know these people on a personal level because you see it's not just a you know people in lab coats
you know punching the clock this is this is their life's work they're they're dreaming about it
they're coming to work each day thinking about the new approach um trial and error they feel so close
you know it's a monogenic condition meaning it's just one mutated gene uh in the DNA
they've isolated that gene.
So now they're just trying to, you know, be able to fix that.
And, you know, the hope on the horizon is not only would it, that process when they figured out how to unlock this key,
it would not only, you know, we're on the forefront, you know, we're like on the runway at this time of genetic research.
research, E.B. in particular. But once that lifts off, it'll help thousands and thousands of other
genetic skin disorders. Yeah. Yeah. Because the kids, first of all, when I see them, I'd see a lot of
the same ones every year at the event. And always upbeat, always cool kids, always fun, up for having a good
time. I know they don't get to do that much fun stuff. It's just even some of the scientists and doctors
are saying when they get stuck, they go, we have these breakthroughs.
And then when it's stuck, you're just really helping with the pain.
It's not really helping them.
You're just like, they have to take bandages off, put them back.
It's just pain.
And it's just so hard to be a parent to watch that.
And I can't imagine.
So you're doing a good thing.
And everyone over there, obviously, Jill, your wife is working hard.
And just to be a part of it.
And we get to go just once a year in help or different little events you have.
But man, I'm telling you, they deserve a break, that's for sure.
Well, in this film is about, it was two years ago, we really wanted to get the whole community together in Seattle.
It was a whole day full of symposiums.
It was basically an EB summit with doctors, donors, families.
And then the music was just supposed to be kind of a reason to get together.
around the campfire at the end of the night.
And I will say it was, it was, it was difficult.
It just, the songs had more weight looking out in the crowd and seeing my friends,
the doctors, seeing my friends, the families and the kids.
It was, it was, it became very emotional and they filmed it and really not,
thinking, you know, we were just kind of trying to document it.
But then the more we saw, and then this great filmmaker, Matt Finlan, who we were working with,
another great Canadian, he was able to, and I can't think of anybody else who could have done this.
Really, because he had been working with EB stuff and with us for probably about five years at that point.
But at that point, knowing the sensibilities, the families, knowing them personally, and he was able to kind of ask them to be part of their lives and film some things that were uncomfortable and film some instances that would take courage to allow it to be filmed.
and it's really a great testament.
It's a wake-up call for people to watch it, you know,
so I think it's necessary sometimes to say,
this is really what's going on here.
Yeah, because I don't, you know,
even a few of the folks that came to have come to the events
over the years, the ones at Gerbitt's house in California,
they didn't really understand it until the film.
that kind of reminds you that there's there was a lot of education that was that seems to be
welcome now that people are seeing it. We're getting so much good feedback already.
For sure. It's very interesting that it's one gene, you know, because I'm sort of casually
know a cardiologist, P.K. Shaw at Cedar Sinai, and he's in their research labs. And a lot of
times it's like 20 different genes, 30 different genes, but just one gene. I'm very hopeful. I'm
hoping that AI for whatever monstrosity it may bring to us is also going to go, you know, make
these things to keep forward. And I'm hoping that within five or 10 years, cancer is pretty much
fixed. And I pray that this one is too. And, you know, and many other scleroderma, which is an autoimmune.
disease primarily but it reminds me of that because David and I I went to a few of those
with Bob Sagin and when you see a child pretty little girl in a wheelchair and then she has a
pink bone her hair you just it's very it's so I mean I had hard both Bob Sagin and I God
rest of soul we were just done after that we we had to go up and do comedy but it was this
like yeah so the the documentary I'm sure is
is just completely heart-wrenching,
but you can't ever bang the drum hard enough
for the amount of suffering that happens ad hoc around the world.
These parents just this just happened.
And so I couldn't respect you more for taking this on,
not for a day or a week.
I think it's been 15 years of this foundation.
And so kudos to you.
Thank you.
Well, it's a good team.
It's a great board.
We do something called Venture for,
philanthropy, which is a newer model.
So if we fund research and something happens because of the research, positive.
And for example, you talked about pain earlier, David, you know, we've been able to come out with now three FDA-approved treatments, not cures, but just treatments for the pain, for the wounds.
Yeah, great.
It's gene therapy, which is a newer thing.
And, you know, what you said, we might be in that perfect, you know, there is a wave of technology.
Even going back five, seven years, you know, computing power really helped, you know, map the human genome, et cetera.
So, you know, it being a single, single mutation, you know, we're lucky in that way because think of all the variables with the 20, as you mentioned.
Yeah.
But this hopefully would be, well, it is the start to cracking these codes.
Yeah, it's a hopeful time in medicine for sure.
Yeah.
It's wearing a fresh with all those new stuff.
Time shift.
Well, all those parties at Gervitses, the fundraisers are great.
Everyone has a good time in spite of what's going on, but we hope the kids come and get a breather.
I know there's a lot of celebrities.
We don't have to name them all, but there's a lot of people that really show up and help out.
And I think it's fun for everybody.
So people just watch the documentary.
Everyone has a documentary.
Watch the documentary, and they'll know if they want to make a donation.
Is it there or we can also put it in our intro or talk about it now?
Yeah, I'm not sure if the information.
I think it's more if you look it up.
It's just, it stands as a film on its own and EBRP, excuse me,
EBRP is the name of the organization.
And like I said, we have, we've been able to streamline the boat,
you know, all the things that you want in an organization,
including, I will say, these angel donors that come in and just take care of all the administrative costs for every year.
Which means all of these funds that are raised go direct to research.
You know, we have so many reasons to be proud of this and now to be able to be proud of the film.
It feels, you know, we're making more progress than getting,
setbacks. So we're in a good space. Nice. And really being here with you guys and talking about it,
it means a lot to us. So on behalf of everybody, we thank you. For sure, for sure. Glad to help.
It's glad to help. EB research partnership or EBRB, if that helped.
EB research, so you remember the RV research partnership.
I have another question before I get rid of you is, um, uh, song sung blue. Look who's in it.
Not really Eddie better, but...
A better Eddie.
Incredible simulation.
Yeah.
Did you see it yet, Eddie?
That was a surprise.
Well, they sent me the script.
That was a surprise.
Yeah, that is.
Yeah.
But it was really, they were really sweet people to know and a story worth telling.
And, you know, you talk about going from playing drums on your mom's cookbook to
you know, this guy, lightning, he had a dream and he wasn't going to let it go.
And it was, again, very, you know, what I will say is that to think that years after he passed,
you know his spirit has to be out there somewhere knowing and just inflated with pride knowing that
not just they made a film but fucking huge acman plays him it's pretty amazing and though
couldn't imagine couldn't imagine yeah for sure and kate hudson's amazing as um as claire she's
she's really yeah i'm in the middle of it i didn't even know it was real i'm in the middle of it
just thinking it's i like neil diamond i sang one of it one of it's i sang one of
of his songs in one of my movies.
I went in some in concert, and I was like,
oh, this sounds like it's up my alley, just on the perifial, you know,
and then here comes Eddie Vedder calling him,
but I didn't know that was real either.
So I found out later it was real.
You did call.
Yeah, they were, I knew this other man.
Someone you heard about, you just heard that they were out there.
It was kind of funny, and they were doing it.
And you're like, let's bring them out.
Well, Milwaukee had this interesting little scene of odd acts.
Another one was called The Frogs, which was a two-man, two brothers that would play songs like Adam and Steve, you know, drink dress up in pink sailor suits.
It was a thing.
But Nirvana loved them.
This friend of ours, Bob Whitaker, Mudhoney, we loved them.
And I think they turned us onto lightning and thunder.
And you just wanted them to, you know, another guy, Wesley Willis out of Chicago.
You know, you had an opportunity because the light was shining on you to share that light.
Yeah, it's very cool.
folks that you thought
deserved it.
And, you know, it wasn't always easy
because then
they might think like, oh,
you know, here we go.
And it's not, you know,
it's hard.
You,
you know, you hope they can handle it.
Right. It's so nutty. I mean, you called him.
That's a big deal. Then Hugh Jackman plays
him down the line but you just never know it's such an odd business and they're in front of a
big crowd for you guys and you did he call you to did he ask you to sing with him is that what it
was and that was real uh backstage yeah i think he asked um and that's how it's depicted something
like that and then you go out there and sing with them which is what a blast yeah yeah they were
they were very sweet and it was a big crowd for him and um and that was that was nice they're they're
Their cup was filled for a little bit there.
And then that movie is filled with, you know, there's some combustion, you know, accidents happen in their lives.
And they have to deal with that.
And it's a real story.
Yeah, very interesting.
Dana, you don't know.
Dana, we were going to, we were going to.
Yeah, for a moment.
I was excited for SNO.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I couldn't believe you were even possibly going to do that with me.
I was going to.
Eddie Vedder.
I want to see it.
Chopin broccoli.
And I was trying to think of how to do it, you know, because it's at, you know, that
what it wasn't, it wasn't within a sketch.
I used to do it in my standup act, just solo with a little piano if there was one available.
But yeah, I guess you were going to, maybe I was going to start and then you were going to come
out and she chop and then kind of wail on.
She chopped with your pipes.
Chopin broccoli, man.
Hysterical.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll get to it.
Maybe one day.
We'll get it.
You know, but yeah, that would have been a blast.
Well, I can't sing.
I mean, I'm a comedian.
I can fake sing, you know.
No, you could sing.
I think you can sing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I can sing a little like Neil,
because just because for whatever reason,
but a lot of people can.
But I can't.
When you see a real singer, you know,
it's like a real dream.
drummer. I fake it at a lot of things. When you see a real talent in music, kind of like, okay,
that was not my calling, but thank you. But we would have rocked it and I would have blown you
away. But my point is this, Eddie, shit job. Well, the thing is, I agreed to work with you.
And then next thing you know, they had me dressed up as a pirate. Oh, that's right. I didn't really agree
to that.
were you in Broadway show?
We're on the Friday night show.
Was it a Radio City musical or where was it?
I went to that.
Yeah, it was really.
And you were in the pirate sketch.
Well, they had a few band, Lady Gaga and, et cetera.
Yeah, there's a bunch of people in there.
I remember that.
Lady Gaga.
I was at that show.
It was a fucking great.
That one, they should have aired.
I guess they probably couldn't because all the music, but it was cool as shit.
That was good.
And we were going to do Tom Petty at one of the shows.
Oh, we were on the Tom Petty.
Oh, maybe one of the Bill Maher show.
Yeah.
No, at your birthday, I was, I said, or Bill Maher ruined it because he said, hey, are you going to stick around?
I said, yeah, I think we're all going to sing.
And then, and then he said, and we have to leave.
And he goes, no, Eddie's not going to sing.
he said you shouldn't stick around because he's not going to think we're wrapping up because so the cake
came up and then he goes everyone's taking off why is he sabotaging me we were going to sing
tom petty and so i left and then honestly an hour later adam called and said hey where are you you're
up and i go i thought everyone left and then who got to steal my tom petty song with you was
you know i think because you weren't there we just didn't do it oh good you know you
know what it's not the same yeah Adam can sing though Adam's good Adam's good
Eddie could play guitar yeah yeah he was yeah he was all green lights my god
and he can write yeah he can write I know no he can really play yeah that's a fun
thing we all I think we're in Seattle doing a gig was norm there when you came out to
see Sandler's tour and see have do you remember that I think or him was there's been a
couple, but Norm, yeah.
Eddie came out and did some Who song, and then we're like, okay, here's a real singer.
Here we go.
Oh, I forgot about that.
We didn't can't explain, I think.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
Maybe.
Hard to cover.
I think so.
I think that's where I snake that hat.
I think it is.
Where is it?
We could be twinning right now.
It's so similar to that.
It's exact same.
Mine doesn't have the writing up.
Yeah, yours looks a little newer.
You gave me the cheap one.
But anyway, Dana.
You'll have to come out with me and Eddie one day.
It's complicated.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall.
Or just listen to music.
I'd love to listen to the Beatles with Dana.
Are you kidding?
That would be a dream.
I'm so I'm not alone in this,
but I'm equally as possessed as Conan O'Brien
or J.J. Abrams or my brothers.
How can you do it?
How can you be around?
Oh, it's just, I just think that what happened in that Renaissance decade,
and I love their early stuff because they, people say, well, later on, they got better.
I go, no, no, no, for they were the best two-minute pop band in history.
Then, then those guys extrapolated into strawberry fields and Penny Lane as a, a double A-side single.
So I can't ever wrap my mind around.
Don't even get me started on the Beatles, but.
Crazy.
I just, you know, I'm from that.
Did you, just by random chance, did you hear the, Ringo is nice enough to come play?
We were talking about that solo record a minute ago.
Yeah, yeah.
Earthlings and Ringo came.
We were thinking, well, this really needs like a Ringo type thing.
And then Andrew Watt, next thing you know, had him on the phone.
We were going over to his house to have him play it.
And it was, it was.
It was so crazy because it literally right before our eyes, and he's such a young presence
and energy anyway. But he looked like he was 25 years old, you know.
Oh, there's got a certain style and you go, oh my God, unmistakable.
Yeah, he's got that shoulder roll and he didn't always go for the splash. He loves the tombs
and he gets in the pocket and this, I don't even know this is true, but you maybe tell me.
So Andrew Wyatt was at the S&O party.
And Jimmy Fallon's there.
Name drops, you know.
And they're going, we're big Beatle fans.
We're talking about Abby Road, you know, and they're like, oh, yeah, we're big
beetle fans.
Abby Road.
And I go, have you heard Revolver?
And I think both of them said, yeah, and I'm not really familiar, you know, and Andrew
too.
I go, you guys haven't hurt Revolver and your Beatle fans?
But anyway, that blew my mind.
But I don't have a favorite.
I think every album.
It's just something magical.
You know, my uncle had a Memorex tape, you know, those strange little cassettes that was like an L.
And it said, it just said Revolver White Album.
And that was one of my first forays into the heavy stuff.
Oh, just to hear it over and over.
Over and over.
And I thought it was all one album, although, you know, white album and Revolver.
That's a heavy listen.
You can trip out as a 12 year.
Yeah, obviously tomorrow never knows.
Texty, Sadie, happiness is a warm gun.
These are kind of these Lenny, just what do you ever you call them?
Bungalow Bill.
Bungalow Bill.
Yeah.
It never, right?
Dear Prudence, Eleanor Ribby.
Incredible.
And your bird can sing.
Two minutes of brilliance, you know, in harmony.
Julia?
I think Julia's in there.
A little, yeah, there's another linen.
It's, you know.
All right.
Let's let Eddie go.
He seems like a nice guy.
Do you have any last words for us?
Yeah, anything you want to tell us, Eddie, before you go?
I'm up.
Here he comes.
Oh, shoot.
Well, you know, I will.
I was thinking about Marty and Barton Short.
Yeah.
And I know it's, I heard he was magnificent at the service.
But I was going to share with you this, this funny thing that happened during COVID.
But this is how quick.
We were talking about how quick people are.
So present company, me excluded.
But then Marty, Marty calls up about four months into COVID, just out of the blue.
And he says, well, hello, Eddie.
I was just checking in, see how my young friend is doing.
And he said, how are you, a young man?
And I said, you know, I'm actually a little frustrated with myself.
Because what had happened when COVID hit, and I smoke and drive.
And I thought, oh, Jesus Christ, you know, this is, it's a lung thing.
It's a respiratory thing.
Like, I got to drop this quick.
Like, I'm going to die from this, some crazy fucking, so totally quit, feeling pretty good.
And then about four or five months in, something started happening.
And I stressed out.
Now I'm having a couple smokes.
And now I'm having.
So Marty said, I said, well, I'm frustrated with myself.
I'm smoking again.
You know, I'd quit because of COVID.
He said, oh, what do you?
Are you smoking?
Are you talking pot or cigarettes?
I said, I said, cigarettes.
He said, oh, are you still waiting for more literature on that?
And that, and that was the last time I ever had a cigarette.
Really?
Oh, really?
Yeah, just like that.
Oh.
I want to great.
I mean, maybe not really, but it makes for a better story.
You should never talk to him again because he ended on such a hit.
That's a great one.
Oh, no, he's full of him.
He's true.
He's full of them.
We love him.
One talk show appearance, he's got about 30 those.
He was on my idol list, him and Steve Martin in the 70s.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Still.
So in all.
They're still out there doing shows.
I know.
Between the two of them, you're like.
Gervitz.
I got to put them out there.
I go, Mark, they're a little old.
I don't care.
A hundred days.
He can love Eddie Veda.
Eddie Venna.
Eddie Venner.
Buy his money, I'd throw mine away.
That's some good Mark Gerbitts right there.
We went snorkeling.
He's my friend.
Who's better than you?
Who's better than you?
You're handsome.
He sat with me on a canoe.
This is the thanks he gets, this is the thanks he gets for hosting all these backyard parties.
I know. And having all comedians, and we all just make fun of them.
No, he loves this. He wants us to make fun of them.
Yeah, it's for circle.
All right, Eddie, thanks, buddy.
Thank you. It's been a pleasure, an absolute honor.
And hopefully we run into.
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