Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - RE-RELEASE - Jon Hamm

Episode Date: December 3, 2025

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Yeah, the one and only John Hamm, who's so brilliant in Mad Men, that was his coming out party. And then he's gone on to do all these things. Mad Men. Always in, used a lot in comedies. And for good reason, the guy knows what he's doing. very personable very studly a lot of fun to chat with i see him out sometimes and uh like just a good old school hang yeah since we recorded this i when i was doing s andl last fall i just hung out with him a lot he'd come to a lot of the parties super friendly guy and um and loves comedy you know

he can do drama he can do anything but yeah to be uh he uh he since this one, he's in a show called Neighbors, I think on Apple TV. He's fantastic and that fantastic. So this was us, me getting to kind of know him. And he loves comedy. He sent me some some really obscure, bizarre comedy clips. I mean, he's a, aficionado of his craft. Even he's just doing like the boyfriend of Kristen Wigan bridesmaids. Just more scoring. Yeah. Just you cut there. It's probably not supposed to be that funny on paper. Those two were hilarious ads. A movie as a whole is so great. So let's hear some John Hamm.

This is it, man. This is not going to be... It should be your nickname, Spader. Eagle Beagle. You can always test how old people are if they see his shoes as this regal beagle either get it or they don't. And no one gets it. You do.

I do. I do indeed. John, it's good to see you, bud. John Hamm is... Oh, we already introduced him, right? Okay. Do we start? Yeah, right? We've been going for about 20. So when you get up in the morning and you have your list, you're going to do this, call this person, a podcast at 11 with Spade and Carvey.

Does it make you happy or sad? Red Letter Day. You caught me right before I'm going to, I'm leaving the country, too. I leave on a vacation. Well, I am going to Switzerland. Weirdly. Are you for real? What are you going to do? Ski? ski. Yeah. I've never never. been skiing in the Alps. I've never really learned how to ski. Well, wait a minute. Were you someone who could ski as a kid, as a young man? Here's what my first ski lesson was. It was in St. Louis Missouri on a frozen golf course. And my friends who all knew how to ski said, just keep your skis pointed and keep your weight on your downhill ski and then pushed me. And so I immediately

couldn't figure out, they're both pointing downhill for me. So I didn't know which was which. and I immediately fell down. The parents at school, they'd all come in on crutches, like around December. You know, they'd go to Lake Tahoe to ski and then they'd all be kind of in a boot for a while. Yeah, we had a big diaspora of rich kids that went to, like, you know, Aspen and Breckenridge

and like Colorado, that was the move. But I was not wealthy. Let me tell you about my first skiing, Dana. Give me 20 minutes here. I went to ice, ice ski. snowplow. I ski like I'm looking for a contact lens, you know? Okay, sure. So I'm not good. My friends go, the best way to learn is go to the top of the hill, but it's really to ditch me, you know. So I have all the green runs. I go, let's go down, Pop-Tart. And they all go, no,

we're going to go down devil's ball sack. I go, no, no, that one sounds hard. I go, listen, I worked out. We're going to go down Santa Claus into jelly bean and then into candy corn and then pillow town. And they go, no, Hitler's a bowl. Here you go. Like, no. Yeah. Hitler's abortion. Here we go.

And I go, no, I don't know. That one, it's not on the map, but that sounds hard. It's not even a thing. It's going to be. And so the point is, Dana, some of those sound hard. I'm enjoying this very much. Did that chunk ever find its way in your stand-up? It was in my last special.

Okay. Got it. Bit alert. I remember it, but I was too kind to bring it up. I dodged a train, not a bit. cross-country skiing with my brother and his wife and in the woods lost noise and then suddenly a train and we dove into the embankment not funny a train a train you didn't see the tracks we did the tracks were covered it was really quiet maybe we're kind of yelling or whatever

and it probably was it was coming around to ben and then shi jill jill jish wow it wasn't like one second we would have been dead but it was like you know five seconds just prove the old saying never go cross-country skiing yeah and always dive away from a train that's coming at you that's what I say now what's what's your favorite podcast you've been on so far in the last since the pandemic John because we want to try to top this is up this is this is up there I was very much looking forward to this now I you know I know both of you sort of separately and here and there but it was it was a very exciting thing to be asked to be a part of so I mean it's the jury still out but I mean

I mean, I guess it's show business, but yeah, we're thrilled to have you on the show. Thrilled. We did a deep dive. We do our homework. John's from St. Louis, Dana, where my daughter lives. Isn't that real? St. Louis, Missouri. What is she doing in St. Louis?

Well, actually, I'm sort of. Yeah. Who? Well, we'll get to that later. We all do Woody Allen. Don't mean to be didactic or facetious. No, you're a wonderful guy. No, he's a beautiful guy.

No, he's a beautiful. Full intelligent woman. It's just that the location is a sensitive, you know, I feel of rock croppings. All the age, you know, I'm like, sorry. She lives where it gets a little more good looking towards Springfield where Brad Pitt's from. Okay. That's a good plan. Fair enough.

I like it. Oh, here's Brad Pitt from Once Upon Time in Hollywood. Go ahead, David. Yeah, let's face it, buddy, this is Leo. Let's face it, buddy, I'm a goddamn husband. Would that guy say to you, you want me to go to Italy and do Italian movies? Don't cry in front of the Mexicans. Look, I'm your gopher, man.

And I kind of like watching your house up in the hills all when you go off and do your things. But where I come from, going Italy and doing an Italian movie, ain't the worst of it. Did you see the movie, John? I did, yeah. I was like, does John seen it? I was wordlessly enjoying it. Do you watch your movies and television shows? Yes.

I wouldn't say I watch, I wouldn't say seek them out. but if they happen to be on and I'm in the mood, yeah, for sure. Because John Lovitz on Monday would be down the hall with a VCR watching sound like lying, John knows this, and laughing his ass off and his sketches. I always felt I would look at them, but trepidatiously, like, feel like I'd be too critical or too self-conscious, you know, that kind of stuff. You know, it's funny, I guess having done, you know, we did 90-some odd episodes of Mad Men. So I'll put, if one happens to be on and I'll click on it, I'll go like,

when was this like what was going on in my life and what was happening and yeah sometimes you go I remember that day it was cold and we came to the set late there was a problem with the lights or some days sometimes that's I have no I mean it the show debuted fifth over 15 years ago I think the debut was 2006 so whatever that was 16 years ago and it went off the air in 2015 so that's seven years ago so it's a very um It's very weird. Well, if I was in a show that good, I think I might look at it. You know, like, like Bert Lancaster, I did a movie with him once. He goes, how are you going to be in television? You've got no chin. So I don't look great in a profile. Like, I'm going to be funny.

So, but if you have a movie star head, like, yeah, he does. Movie star heads are different. You know, there's, you know, I don't know, James Brolin from back in the day. Brolin's got a big dome. And it's just a good cranium. and then a chin. I'll tell you, it's a, it puts you in your place, too, being in the SNL makeup department because you see all of the heads of all of the people over the years.

Oh, right. Yeah, it's creepy. Sitting there lined up like little soldiers. And I will say I was in the, probably in the top one percentile of head size in that, in that room. I think only, only Affleck and Brolin had me. Really? Uh, on head size. Affleck has a noggin on him. You know, told me George Siegel, I did a show, them and he said i have a movie starhead meaning him he said you don't meaning me and um he said you might have trouble in the movies and i said well thanks for that is that same thing is

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But I have a two-part question for John is it? Okay. I have a three-part. Can I first just insert? Insert, because we'll get it out of the way. My Don Draper impression? Yeah. Oh, yes. Don Draper is asked to give someone a ride to the airport. I don't even know you. That's it? Wait.

That's it. No, that's not bad, though. Well, I can't. It's a soft one. I don't even know. Is that your hook? Is that your hook? I see it in memes.

He's on memes a lot. Oh. On Instagram. Yeah, I don't, I've seen some of the memes. I don't know if that's one of them. I know there's one of me like. laughing and drinking that it gets used quite a bit but uh that might be a gif might be a gif let's not it's a blurry line i don't want to confuse the issue yeah no one no one in the history of film or

television has made a smoking a cigarette cooler you know maybe McQueen or Bogart but there's yeah there's it's it's pretty it's pretty rare company that's for sure there's a you really got that it makes you cooler for sure i mean well it makes you sicker yeah i mean well There's a big debate. Is it worth it to smoke? Look, the science isn't in. Table the lung damage. Let's just go with how hip it is to the way you did that. The science is on its way in, but I, you know, some early reports say it's bad for you, but I say it looks cool, so it's sort of a coin toss. I say, yeah, do your own research. All right, I have another quick, a 30-second compliment.

Let's get Joe Rogan in on it. We compliment our guests here, but this is just an observation. from me is that when I watch Daniel Craig doing James Bond, then I met him at the Oscars, name drop, and he's still Daniel Craig, but he does this thing that becomes James Bond. And I felt that you did the exact same thing on Madman. You have John Hamm, and then either your jaw or your shoulders, just like, it's just an interesting connection for me. I really felt that.

There is a part of it, you know, that's very, very, you know, depending, you know, when I'm wearing the suit and the thing and the hair slick back and all that stuff. It's obviously very different. The way you carry yourself. There's very much a, you know, I am playing a character on that. It's not just me wandering through my day. Daniel Craig is a character actor. I think you are too. Yeah. I mean, I remember the first time I hosted the show, we had a, we had several Mad Men sketches at read through. 27. Yeah, sure they load them up. Hey, because you're going to get one at least. So you might as well throw everything. Yeah, just. One made it on the air. Yeah, for sure. But it was funny because, like, you know, I had spent the time up to then doing other sketches and reading, you know, various funny parts and this is and that's.

And as soon as it got to the Don Draper, I sort of dropped into the Don Draper voice and everybody kind of went. Oh. It's a character. Every girl slid off her chair. That's what that sounds. Yeah. And the cadence, the rhythm. I mean, you're married with the writing.

Very much that stuff too. Very cool. David, did you have something before I interrupted your 20 minute question? Yeah. Thank you, Dana. I'll get back to you. I have too many. One was I was in at the Mirage this weekend.

Oh, I appear there sometimes. Whoops. But I was with, first I saw on TV. I watched Mr. Mrs. Jones. Keeping up with the Joneses, yes. Yep. Is that what they,

the final title was? Yep. Yeah, they went with that. And then, uh, and he's just done that and I go, you work with Zach and I, Gall, is that how you say your name? Gall, Gal, yeah. Gal, yeah. Gal Godot.

Great. Jesus Christ. she's beautiful and then um it's it's a resting thank i mean i'd be sick so you're welcome you did a good job in that because it was so funny i was about to see you and i was about to come dink around and look at your stuff when i got home and i go ooh i get to watch this and uh what a fun sort of different movie to be in and then i was with ray romano we do shows together and we golf sometimes and then talk about a quick impression i think dana he does a ray romano everybody kind of does a ray romano but i never heard one really and I fucking work with him well we always there was a joke that we had going on I forget

who started it um but there was it it was always like that you could do uh Brad Garrett and Romano very like having a conversation you know right you know right he's back here oh come on and then and then Brad Garrett is uh Raymond so it's just back before come on Raymond come It's mice and men. Yeah, it's really Lenny and Squiggy. It's different versions. That's it. See, I love micro-impressions where it's just the essence.

You don't need to say anything more. I love Ray. He's, I mean, everybody loves him. It's been established at this point. They need to show after that concept. But, yeah, he's, he's awesome. Super sweet. Here's, here's my Barney 5.

Ange. So, that's only one word. That's all you need. Barney 5. Oh, Landy. Oh. Anj. Here's my Christopher Walkins, he's a magic trick.

Quick. Wow! That's it. We're done. Hey, Dana, did I tell you and John, you can listen? When I, when Ackroyd said we should do Mayberry, me and him, I should, that was back after Conads. He goes, you know, maybe we should do Mayberry RFD. I play Andy Griffith.

You've got to save the money. You know, you got to save the money. He was always very business. off about aliens. But yeah, I love Danny Eckroyd that we should have done it. Well, let's think for a second of a John Ham, David Spade. That is too late, I guess. Can we put you to in a series live streaming? We call Ted at Netflix. You're already on FX, Hulu. I don't know. You're everywhere. But by the way, on Seqwer, I'd love the Apple commercial. Oh, thanks. What about John Ham or what happened? Yeah, everybody with John Hamm.

I mean, that is so... That was the name of the commercial. Was that the name of the commercial? Yeah, that was the name of the campaign. I love it because they say it on the top in quotes so you get your like call sheet. Everybody but John Hammond. The hammer.

The fucking... That's just like a great, a great commercial. Yeah, you did a good job. And just the way you played it, it was terrible. It was funny too. Like my friend, a guy who I've known, who's a buddy of mine,

you guys may or may not have met my, my very tall friend named Tall John, who is the comedy writer. He used to write for Sarah Silverman's a show. he works as sir yeah yeah yeah i think you've met him at lago or something and uh it's hard to he's hard to miss he's 610 but uh he uh he used to write promos for the wb back in the back in the day he and drew goddard and this guy wayne mcclame who was directing it and he used to direct the promos so it was like we used to all go out and get beers and stuff and hang out in the late 90s in

l.a when we had no money and we would go to lago or we would go see comedy or what have you and uh and now uh it was very strange to like see that dude on a on a set of a commercial that uh that uh i was sort of nominally the star of which was was pretty cool well the tall guy he would be at um sarah sovman's roof party he would actually stand on the sidewalk and we'd be on the roof um but uh you know you would go to largo would you go to largo a lot because i know you like comedy and you'd go see stuff right yeah that was my that was my entree into sort of cheap entertainment because uh great l a even back then was expensive sure i did not have much money and so So for, you know, whatever $2, $5 drinks or whatever it was.

And I didn't have to wait in line because I usually knew somebody. And I got to know Flanney and the game. Flanee. Nisest club owner. Yeah, he's great. But it was a pretty hot moment in time, the late 90s. And, you know, it was everyone from, you know, Zach was just starting up. He had that weird show on VH1.

Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Odd fit. And then guys like, you know, Bob Odenkirk and Sarah and Tenacious D. Shit. Paul F. and Doug Benson, just all, all those guys now that are sort of the eminent screes of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of L.A. comedy is, is, uh, that's when they were all going. It was five bucks. It was like, it's great. It's still, I don't think it's that expensive. Largo is still a great place to go run stuff or go just jump on somebody's show or. I think the, the last time I saw you was that, was that. Oh, yeah. Sarah. I think so. There's a photo of you and Sarah. Do we take a picture? Yeah. All right. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Post it, tag me. I bombed at Largo a lot.

I tagged the shit out of you in that picture, I think. Anyway, can we for a second talk about, like, just right before Mad Men and SNL? Because that's really interesting because people or... Explosion. Our listeners may not know this. So, you literally were still... You came to LA. You were still not working, making a living as an actor until 29 or 30.

So you had years of waitering. I mean, I was just... Yeah. How long that go on? Well, when I got to L.A., I moved out to L.A. in 95. So, and I didn't stop waiting tables until I was 29. So I had about four years of kind of roaming the desert, so to speak. And weirdly enough, I got a text from a number that I didn't recognize about a month ago saying,

hey, is this, is this John Hamm that used to work at this restaurant? Belmont. I used to work at down in Venice. And I said, okay, I haven't, yes, this is, but that's a very weird way to refer to me. okay yes yeah and they were it used to be owned by Dudley Moore and Tony Bill it was called 72 Market Street it's not there anymore but it was like a really cool Venice restaurant you know Sean Pan and Angelica Houston and Robert Graham and all the cool Westside folks would would hang out there and I was a waiter there

and so that was the first time I ever saw paparazzi Richard gear came in with someone who wasn't Cindy Crawford you just broken up with Cindy Crawford and it was like, oh, it's a big deal. So anyway, they were having a reunion of this thing, so they're trying to get everybody that used to work there. And, yeah, fun fact, the guy worked with at that restaurant left the job to go to Juilliard, and I didn't see him again until the pilot of Mad Men

where he played the young tobacco executive, like the younger... Oh, how weird, protégé. Oh, wow. Did you wait on famous people that you admired and stuff? Did you wait on famous? You know, the only time I really waited on anybody famous was Don Henley once. Oh, okay.

Couldn't have been nicer. There was a run there when Mitch Glazer, who you probably know, Dana, or maybe you do too. Kelly Lynch is a. And Kelly, they're neighbors now and I used to go and run catering at their house, which was very weird. Wow. I heard you worked on porn sets as a fluffer. Did I read that right? What is it?

What does that do? What does that mean? That was my first question. Certainly, there were no genitals touched. I was in the art department. There's an art department. Whatever that means. Yeah.

I mean, it was softcore. It was like, you know, Skinnamax. Was it Emmanuel? Late night, whatnot. We shot in these dismal, dingy places down in L.A., downtown. I love it. These stages. Was it like, like, really like Skinnax?

Like they'd be kind of naked, but they weren't real. It was like some dude in a, you know, a sock and a, lady with patches on her whatever's and uh and it was go time and then you know then they'd have like these ridiculous scenes of like what do you mean you you're you're lost yeah i'm gonna be a ride i've got mining rod my i i i i was just walking by and and i happen to have a boner but right here i got an extra one you're borrowing oh shit well yeah no i got the job from a girl i went to college with who was like she was like i can't do this anymore it's like soul crushing I was like, I'll do it.

Oh, soul crushing. I don't do anything. How about entertaining? Yeah. Kevin Neeland and I did a bit on S&L where we sat in chairs like we were porn stars and we were bare, you didn't have like we were naked. You can't see. And we had people attending to our crotch.

It was like, yeah, yeah, powered up nice, yeah, trim it down. Yeah, make it nice for the people. Yeah, put a little fence around it. I mean, we went nuts. I remember that one. You remember that? A little fence around. Yeah.

John knows S&L. John is, I watched. the monologue this morning where you were an ad guy. Of course you knew you're going to have to do an ad one. I thought it was funny. And Bill Hader, you kept saying, no, ma'am. And then he goes, I'm not a ma'am. And then you go over here and do something.

Then you come back to him. And then Andy Sandberg trips you up. But I thought that was funny that you can actually think of them on your own. No, that was funny. I've done it. I've hosted three times as well, John. So we should talk to Lord. If you want to have a three-timer club,

do it. It's fine. You know, it doesn't need as much. Everyone's got along. Go ahead. John, which one of the 18 Madman sketches were you sort of gravitating towards? John, you can pick one, maybe two. Three is too much. I just feel like maybe one after update.

One maybe, maybe a commercial parody. Yeah, yeah, the three-timers, not as much play, the three-timers. You know, it's don't get anything. One thing I'm curious about is we go into your S&L experience is like, so Madman comes out, it's only on like a year or a year and a half. I mean, so you get that.

You're starting to feel you're riding this rocket. Your whole life's changing. And then you get the call. You weren't even on Madman that long. That's my curiosity. Before Lorne, who loved it immediately, told me about it. Now you go, you're going to host SNL. It just seemed like a rocket ship.

Yeah. In fact, I remember when my agent said they want you to host SNL, It was in New York City, it was at a, like a Mac, you know, back when they had magazine things. It was a magazine cover that I was on a party for it. And my girlfriend at the time and I were about to leave the country to go to this trip we had planned. I had been working all year. We were like, we have to book this trip and it'll be great. And it was the week that they wanted me to host SNL.

So I had to say no. And I thought, like. Oh, you said no to SNL? to go on vacation? Well, that'll be the end of that. I guess I'll never get asked, but at least I was asked, you know, blah, blah, blah. And immediately came back, it came back. Well, how about the following week?

And, uh, okay, that sounds great. Like, sure. And not having any, any idea of what it entailed at all, other than knowing the show and knowing, you know, kind of the, some of the people at that point, I knew, I had met Amy and, and, um, and, um, and, um, and, um, and, um, and. Oh, was that circled. Yeah. Yeah, that crowd.

Great one. So there were a couple people that I knew that were, that had been there for some time. But yeah, it was, it was a real, it was a real eye-opener to the first time, to say the least. And that was also happened to be the episode that Amy Poehler was wildly pregnant and then had her baby Saturday afternoon. So we had to completely re- Oh, wow. Retool the lineup. And is it true that she found out during rehearsal that her? Her doctor had died and then you calmed her down.

I'm sure you've told that story. Well, what did you say? And then she laughed her ass off. Go ahead. Tell her. I was sitting next to her. We were shooting a thing with Jimmy Signorelli. Yeah.

The late, not even it was late, but the late, great, so to speak. Filmmaker. Guy who did all the pre-tapes. Yeah. We're sitting there. We're in some weird office space in Midtown. And Amy is, you know, nine months pregnant. And I'm sitting there.

And it's like a, it's a Matt, it's a Don Draper. Here's how to like, here's how to pick up ladies. Like, rule one, be Don Draper. Like, okay. And so it was really funny. Like, Fred Armisen is playing the guy. He was like, hey, maybe you want to go on a date. And they're like, get lost, weirdo.

And then I'm like, hey, how about it? And Polar's line is, let's get me out of this skirt. I want to have that career. Can I go back in time? So it was really funny. But we're sitting there in the makeup chairs, you know, they have the kind of temporary thing with the with the lights and the mirror set up and I don't know really anybody uh especially the makeup artist or the hair people or anybody I'm just okay and um kind of going along and then

um polar gets a call and uh hello um yeah I can't what what you're gonna be kidding me and then immediately starts to like get emotional and sob and stands up and walks kind of behind a you know a thing and I'm hearing like now I'm hearing like sobbing like and and I'm like looking at the hair the makeup person is like frozen I'm like do you what uh what do we do and what do like if we do go home like what's happening to recast so it's like this is all takes place in about 35 seconds and she comes back from around the little fake wall And it's clearly been like crying and everyone's like, Amy, oh my God, is it, what's happening? She's like, you won't believe this. I just found out my, my, my, my, my, uh, OBGYN, who's been with me through this.

This is her first child. It's been with me for this whole trip. He just died. God damn. Like no way. Like no way did this happen. And I was like, oh my God, Amy, that's terrible. Um, but this is like a really big thing for me. So can you, pull your shit together like now and she immediately was like like laughed like cracked up so i was like thank god that could have gone that landed nicely my question for you about jim signal is if this you're shooting something on a saturday or was just during the week it was during the week okay good that story started to not check out yeah okay because you they got it i think people at home don't realize when you do s andl and if you're a host you for sure probably don't get like

the first night is kind of easy. You meet Lorne. You go to a Monday meeting and everyone kisses your ass and you're like, this is John Hamm and then everyone politely applause. And they go, next week, Sharon Stone. Everyone goes, yay! And then you immediately feel like an asshole. The inside joke every week.

The inside joke we do every week. And then, but then you kind of go to dinner or so. I don't know what you do or you just leave. And then you go, this isn't too hard. And then Tuesday, you come in and it's writing day. Wednesday is where it's, yeah. Wednesday is the crazy day. Yeah, Tuesday's the, right.

is or so dinner night and the host comes back after yeah and then and then writes and hangs out and i think that's when even when i went back to host twice not three um that uh which which they're really not giving parties for the two timers for sure so i go and they go uh and even knowing the drill i'm an or so nervous going i don't i think i got to get back there like i want to get back there and just go over everything because i'm fucking starting to freak out uh that i'm not Because even Tuesday day, no one does anything. And then no one's getting written. You're like, guys, we have all this time we're wasting.

But every week is the same thing. Pizza is just hanging out, wasting time. Wasting time. The entire system is based on procrastination coming from ADD. You can't really focus until there's a hard line. We've got to go now. Yeah. So when you walk in there, were you more, okay, you did it three times.

What was your nerve rate coming into that? office on Monday, sitting there with all these sketch players. What were you, were you out of 10? Or were you sort of naive, like maybe this will be fun or what were you? Maybe it'll be fun. It's true. It's true. You go, maybe this will be fun and easy. And then you quickly turns, you go, God damn. Well, David's right, though. Like, there's nothing on Monday that is really, if you haven't done it before, that suggests this is going to be terrified. Yeah. So they start you out slow. It's a bit backloaded. Everybody's like calm and relaxed and they're pitching ideas. is it'll never make it.

The first time I came in and we had the meeting on Monday, the writers all came in dressed in 60s gear. Oh, really? That's cool. Everyone from Paul Appel to John Malini to call in. Everybody was like, just as a salute to madman? Yeah.

Oh, wow. I've never heard him do that. Lutz was dressed up like Joan. Like it was amazing. Like they all just raided the costume department and came in like that. So they're in awe of you at this point, which is nice. I was like, okay. Well, they would love to be able to, comedians want to be able to do what you do.

You do comedy and that. But yeah, we kind of respect actors. So, but it was weird. It was, you know, there's nothing to suggest like, oh, this is going to be terrifying. Until Wednesday, when you have a packet of, you know, 25 sketches that you have to read at that table and try to get laughs. And you've seen them for exactly, you know, maybe an hour or two to kind of go through. But you can't. I'm sure you don't even get to all of them. There's no way. No, not at all. There's no way. I mean, it's, you know, it's a phone book size thing.

And writers come in just to tell the crowd. Hey, can you do a thing where you, uh, where you do a voice and it sounds kind of like the okay, you get to do that. Right. Yeah. Which, which one is this? I'm sorry. Right. And then you're kind of Russian in this one, but not Ukrainian. Just play that a little bit. And then you're like, okay. You don't have to sound exactly like an elephant, but just do whatever you can. You're like, right. And your head spinning going and then Lauren's like, every five, six seconds for about an hour until you go in that packed room with a low ceiling and everyone waits for Lorne and then he comes in and regally starts the read-through

and it's like four hours of cold reading essentially. Cold reading. Solid B-O like off the charts. Everyone in there is sweating and grossed out and there's no ventilator. Someone goes crack. Lorne will go crack the window. And then someone reaches back. I got it, Lauren.

That would be me usually. I got it. Fayian, David is a waiter. in an Italian restaurant, David goes to the table. David puts down the water. I wrote this stupid one for Farley when we had no ideas. I wrote Goo Goo in the Honeypot and where he was a, so stupid, but it was like an eight-foot honey pot and then he gets in there and he's stuck in

honey in a diaper and he keeps crawling out and he's covered in honey and they go, Gougar, were you in the honey pot? He goes, no, I go, I saw you in this area. Perfect for Farley. Yeah. And he goes, David, do you think we can do it? I go, it's just stupid enough. It might work.

So I handed in knowing I'm light that week. And then Lauren gets through and he goes, go-goo in the honey pot. And then he turns the whole sketch over and goes, Wayne's World Cold Opening. I go, oh, he skipped it. I've never heard of skipping it. Unheard of. He didn't skip when I did funny little poopie head. He should have.

I did funny little poopie head with Jan Hook. She was Mrs. Funny Little Poopie Head. And I had massive stage direction where Lauren had to say funny little poopie head. over and over again. And with his boy, a funny little poopie had to sit down. Funny little poopie had sits down. It's like that thing

that funny little poopie had. But he bailed on your sketch because that sounded funny to me. And he never mentioned it. I know Farley would have crushed it. Farley would have killed. I think Sandler later wrote one. It's like not even writing.

That one he isn't even really writing either, but I think he put one where it's a film piece like for Signorelli where he's in a pool and he just puts all this. sundant oil on and then he just tries to get on the raft for about four minutes. And he can't get on the wrap. And he's going, oh, God,

which, you know, we've gone to that well before, but it seemed to work. It never does. Never not funny with Farley. Yeah. And then I think that one even got like,

at least red. And then it's, the sketch is like one paragraph. And then Farley struggles and screams for 45 minutes. Farley falls down. Farley had Dennis used to go, Hey, Farley, you got Farley.

Yeah, Farley falls down. Anything else in the tank? Anything else for us? Dennis would just take, get rid of, just lay waste all the junior varsity. You know, Sandler, they're not buying the cookie guy, okay? Spain, wait until carving leaves, because David would sit behind me and Lauren would go, David's ready at any time, would you're not? With Instacart, you get groceries let over deliver, and with Instacart's in-store prices at select stores,

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I love Bill Hater and love his Vincent Price. And then you came in and did James Mason. And you must have loved that because you did it great. And every line killed with James Mason. First of all, that, that sketch is so, talk about so weird and specific. And it crushed, like a sketch should not kill that hard when it's that. Especially a sketch about a relatively obscure 50s, 60s. Exactly, very obscure to the young audience.

Tell me at, Dane, I didn't see it. Clearly, nobody knows who Vincent Price in the audience. It's just a funny character. He's got a fake bird, and it's all black and white, and he's like, I don't even know if he's really trying to do it really accurate, but it's just a funny, hello, I'm Vincent Price. Yeah, it's just kind of just off-putting, and then Fred Armisen is Liberacee is. Yeah, it's just, ah, and Fred could all do all that all day, very musical.

And then it's like a TV show, and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's going badly and he's getting frustrated. The whole trope of like, you know, bringing in special guests. I mean, now we have our special guests. Yes, isn't this a great show? Gary is Fonson, again, like no one, no, no, no one has any sense of who that is except that she's a weird. It's got a lot of views.

I think people just, those get passed around, you know? I, uh, I had to, um, you know, we, we did that for Dress and it was Dean Martin at Dress. And, um, really? So, and it kind of fell flat, I guess my Dean Martin wasn't very good. But also, Lorne was like, well, here's the problem. It's a drunk playing a drunk, and it's a hat on a hat. A hat on a hat. Hat on a hat, that's very long.

That's a big one. Who else can you do? Right then? What? Really? At like 10.30 on Saturday night, the show's on in 45 minutes. Come up with another obscure impression that will make sense. Weird.

and you can you can get a 10 out of 10 on it nearly nail it uh and so hater comes in my dressing room and he's like uh hey man yeah uh i don't know uh i said i said this is gonna sound weird i said i can kind of do a james mason he goes no way no way do it and i was like perfect i don't know and uh that's it and we and he goes perfect that's it that's done and i think he and malaney had written the sketch together so i can't remember who wrote it with him but um but then we did that like and again it was And that was at, like, yeah, 1045. So, you know, we're all up in Lawrence's office. Like, so John's going to do, is it James Mason?

Okay, John's going to, that's going to change from Dean Martin to James. So get out on the cards. None of the lines changed. Just very casual. He's always that he was an alcoholic, right? He was drunk and lascivious. It was just funny, you know, sexually inappropriate. Yeah, it was just hysterical.

But that is, that's impressive. The reason I could do that is because we, me and Paul Rudd, growing up, up would we love the movie heaven can wait and oh yeah i saw it james mason plays the the angel who kind of shepherds warren baities you know journey whatever it was yeah but his line is you're dead joe and so that's what we would always say to each of randomly how you doing charles groan and diane canon the whole freak the movie is perfect fucking great movie jack warden jack warden oh yeah Hey, Max. So that was that your...

Jack Gordon has one of the best lines in all of cinema, I think, in a little movie called Shampoo. Oh, wait a minute. I saw it a month ago with my wife because we see it every year. The movie's so good. And the line is... The line is, now that's what I call fucking.

So he catches Warren Beatty. He doesn't realize it's Warren Beatty fucking his own girlfriend. His own girlfriend, Julie Christie. But he sees him through a door. way and he goes, and that's what I, geez, you got, so you're a warm baby, 70s warm baby, you know, shampoo, having can wait, the parallax view. We want to, there's nothing better. The parallax view.

Wow. I've gotten, I've gotten to hang out with him on quite a few occasions. He's a great guy. I mean, the stories are, you cannot have a dinner that's less than three hours of him. I hung out with him once, yeah, it's very, he's very bright. See if I can find that. Yep, there it is. Oh.

Oh. oh wow so what what year was that were you you probably 2016 he just showed a picture everybody did he reach out to you or how do you guys have dinner or did mutual he was a fan of the show oh yeah he would have that show oh were you getting cold calls kind of yeah some stars yeah and then he uh he and annette had some friends that like one of them was a guy named bill pope who was the director photography for baby driver so i think that was probably probably around... Baby driver, let's not forget.

Baby driver. I think that, yeah, that makes sense because he was probably 30 or something when 1960 hit and that the end of that era of, you know, slapping them on the bottom and all that pre-feminism. I mean, you know, his first movie was like barefoot in the park maybe or was that Robert Redford?

I can't remember. That was Redford. It was 58. But didn't he do the play? He might have. Yeah, he might have. He did wearing shoes in the park. Huge Redford fan.

I tried to convince my sons who are with me up here. Oh, he's a fucking stunned. So watch three days of the condor with me. We watched podcasting the Sundance Kid and they loved it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It doesn't get much better. How about the sting?

The sting. The sting. Shit. All the president's men. Don't get me started. The horse whisper. Whatever. He's amazing.

But the electric horse. I think you mean. The horse whisper. Is that with Jane Fonda? Oh, he had the electric horseman and then the horse whisper later of 98. Yeah. John, do you have any parts that they came to you and you had to pass up on that you didn't do that you would like to? Um, I couldn't.

Other than me and grownups, other than my part of growners. I'm glad you said now. I have, I've had pretty good luck, honestly, of the things that I've turned down or not been able to do have not come back to kind of harm. come back to kind of haunt me or or anything like that i was i was sort of loosely attached to gone girl at one point there was a there was meant to be a situation uh and then it was because madman was shooting it was like oh okay i can't do it like that that that's that's the way that goes but i really liked that book and like the guys from st louis and they did a good job with it yeah ben did a great job ben's phenomenal i love that's great those uh you know but i haven't had

very many of those those are like a few and far between which is which is nice like you don't I have a lot of like, it's only, uh, but yeah, like you said grownups, that was a, that was, when you said no to grownups, um, no, but you, now when you get involved with something like curb your enthusiasm, is that something because you know Larry or he just likes you and says, hey, do you want to come on beep, boop, pop, I had done a weird little movie with Larry that was for HBO, I think, called Clear History, where he invents, uh, a car. It's, it's a very, convoluted setup like most of his setups. Yeah. And he invents this car and it goes sideways and he forgets about a lot of the, and I play the guy that owns the car company like

Elon Musk or whatever. And we had a really good time. We shot it in Boston with Greg Matola and had a great time doing it and made each other laugh so much. We had so many great people in that film too. And Michael Keaton, he had Hayter, Jimmy Tingle. I mean, I mean, like, all these Boston comics. Jim, what a great name. Yeah, stand-up. Yeah, we had all these like Boston comics that were, that were bopping around coming in and out.

And it was really fun and funny. And we got to know each other a little bit and played a little golf in Boston. And ever since then, he's kind of kept me in mind for stuff. And I've been able to do the show a couple times. It was always really fun. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. He's kind of a genius, I guess.

I don't know where he had some frequency of all his own. You know, I've been watching a lot of old Seinfelds, too, like, which, which hold up so remarkably well, like, other than kind of the fashion, uh, yeah, which stands out a bit, but, uh, the, the, the jokes and the, and the stories. And you can, you can so clearly hear Larry's voice in George Costanza. And not only that, but just in the, in the, in the stories, like the, the, the setups and the, and the particular kind of annoyances of, you know, the one was on last night was the parking garage where they just get stuck in the, parking garage for the entirety of the episode. Yeah. It's those little observations, little stand-up observations, but extenuated and just shot well. There's a liveliness to him. I mean, Larry, when I was watching your episode last night, the two Larry Dave, it feels like he's not breaking, but he's, he's enjoying it so much. He's kind of smiling a lot in a lot of his lines, even when he else. Jerry had that too on Seinfeld. You could see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Adam in his early films had a little bit. It brings a lot of charm to those. It does. Because, like,

It's very subtle. Yeah. We know it's funny. It's funny. You know, John, did you have this experience? So I did a curb where they, I guess this is how they do it. They have a loose script. Yeah.

Which, this was the fun for me, because I don't improv a lot. I mean, in these movies, we do a couple things, but a whole scene where they go, okay, you're leaving a Lakers game, you run into Larry, and they go, you are going to defend yourself with whatever he's going to say to you. And then they go over to him and they talk to him. And I go, what's he going to do? They go, you'll find out. So that's all we got. And then we meet with a crowd and then we both have a friend with us. And then he starts going after me about something and I start defending myself. And then we cut. And then we go back and they go, now brag about what you're doing. And then he's going to do something else. And it was so fun because you got to be on your

fucking toes and he's great and everyone's everyone in the scene is always good because they're going to hire everyone good is it like that kind of that's that's pretty much it i mean the last you know the last one i did was with albert brooks and laura kightlinger and you know jb and you know so many everybody at that point kind of get knows what they're doing yeah on that's on that set and you just kind of it's not unlike s andl you just want to try to stay out of the way and understand that the process is going to be the process and it's going to work and you can contribute where you can. And that was my, you know, I was able to do that and pitch ideas and say like,

what if I'm, you know, this or what if I'm that? So what kind of ideas would you pitch? And were they? I had that my idea for this last one was that my character, I'm about the least Jewish person in the universe. Like I'm a Roman Catholic from St. Louis, Missouri. Lutheran.

But I said like, you know, what if I, what if I'm just like understand, like, I'm trying to like pepper my, my. conversation with like Jewish to sound phrases and words and you know but I get them wrong or I'm funny almost right with them or and they thought that was a pretty funny and they don't really it rubs them wrong a little bit kind of like what do you that's not what you're gonna say like yeah yeah but but delivered with like the ultimate confidence like most you know that that thing in LA of people that 100% wrong but but saying it out loud and proud my life that's my whole life

I know it's amazing people have no information have you know yeah fake until you make it. What's the one thing of the madman? What are the couple things that people stop you and they know you from? What's the easiest stuff? Oh, the fucking town guy. It's a great movie.

I love the town. I get that in Boston and I get that in airports. The TSA love the town. Yeah. The TSA loves it. Yeah, I see the town and that's one when it comes on and that's one of my movies is on. If it comes on, I watch the whole thing, unless Ben Chwombers is on.

And so I, the town is such a badass movie. And I love it's all Boston. It's all fucking weird. Not weird. It was just cool. It was a really fun one to make, too. Like, we were all kind of, everybody was, you know, Renner was just coming off of Hurt Locker and Rebecca Hall had, I think she was an Iron Man or something.

Like, everybody was kind of coming off their own thing. And it was Ben's second directorial effort. And his first one was so good, Gone Baby Gone. Yeah. So it was really kind of fun and exciting and Warner Brothers like left us alone really. I didn't do it. Yeah. This thing.

And it was, it was great how it all, it was like kind of this weird perfect storm. The other guys in the, in the crew with Ben and Jeremy were these kind of local guys that were just kind of scary enough to be believably, you know, kind of low level criminals. Yeah, sure. It was fun. You know, it was just fun. We got really, really lucky. We got to shoot in Boston in the fall and it didn't snow or rain or any of that stuff. We got to bang around Fenway Park, you know.

Yeah, it seemed like you had run of the town. How has Ben as a director? Like, how did he? I mean, he's great. And like I fell for him. Obviously, it's like that's the hardest job on the set, especially when you're also the lead of the film. Yeah. And he's also in Boston, like everywhere he goes, he is remarked.

And he's a big dude. Like, he's probably six, four, six, five. Like, he's a tall guy. He's not, like, he's not hiding in plain sight. Right. So everywhere he goes, bad, hey, he's Jesus, you know. Hey, guy, what's going on, guy? Hey, he's fucking being ass like, get over here.

Give me your fucking hug. Too good for us, guy. And that's his mother, ladies and gentlemen. I got to tell you. Thank you. God damn. But yeah, so it was, obviously, it was, he had a lot on his plate, but he pulled it off And he did the smart thing, which I think the lesson to be learned from that is, is like he hired amazing department heads.

Like our director photography was this guy Robert Ellswitt who shot, there will be blood, among other things. And, you know, one is fair share of hardware. And he had really, really talented camera operators and art department people and stuck guys and second unit. But you guys seem to like block off chunks of the city and get to drive all over and do everything. It's fucking it's fun on a movie You're like you run the whole town It's great Yeah especially and especially that guy

In that town That's for sure You know do a movie with me In Scottsdale Let's see what's going on Yeah In August We'll see what's up

Yeah We shoot in the afternoons You'll enjoy it We shoot at dusk for one hour It's called sunburn Slash windburn I always watch movies To see how many nights

They shoot To see how much Complaining I would be doing I'm like Look those fucking nights Man why do you even Say anything What if it's vampires

I could never But They're in the daytime Yeah They don't drink blood Ruins the whole movie I don't care I'm like it's easier to shoot

Do you have a wish list of like If you got a script across your desk Like would you like to do something Way way comedic or Or you know like I've been told by a prosthetic makeup artist That everyone wants Rubber on their face

Ever since Churchill with who won the Oscar. Sorry, one of my favorites. Gary Oldman. Gary Oldman, yeah. So now everyone wants some prosthetics because that's how you get at least a nomination. Like for you to hide John Hamm,

you know what I mean? Would be kind of interesting. I hate sitting in the makeup chair. Damn. I cannot stand it. And there goes your Oscar. Yeah, there goes my Oscar. But let's be honest.

It wasn't happening anyway. Did you wear a bald cap on SNL? We're jumping. around oh yeah for sure oh yeah they're popping wigs on and off you like crazy so the one of your own hair is always like a little wrong and you're exactly you're like this is me and my own hair in the monologue and you're still got a bald cap on everyone's like it looks like shit yeah uh but at least i'm now sweating from my dome of my head all the way down my back oh yeah no any you know the fun thing for me would have been to be a part of the star war stuff

stuff, but that's, I think that ship has sailed because I was such a huge Star Wars fan back when I was little. And I, you know, I remember being like in third grade or something and, and Star Wars coming out and it, you know, it starts with the big crawl, right? And it says episode four, and you're like, episode four, like, what are you talking about? What did I miss? Yeah. What did I miss?

Like there must, there were three episodes that just didn't exist before this. It's so weird they started like that. And yeah, a new hope, episode four. And so then, then like the rumor mills start. among the third graders of like well you know there's there's nine of these there's meant to be nine of them we read it in like Fangoria magazine or something you know and like you that you thought wow nine nine more Star Wars that's going to be amazing and they're not meant to be completed until 2019 which back then was you know 40 years later

you're like what I got to wait 40 years for these like no way they go and two are going to be good so you don't know which two literally at your age you would you might I'd have had Star Wars little figures. Oh, I had figurines. I had a poster. I had sheets. I had the whole deal. It was a big part of my life.

So I had the little Darth Vader-shaped case that you kept your little guys in. Hot. Yeah, so anyway. But, yeah, I didn't, I never got the call for that one. But I don't know. It's never too late. We shot Fletch, which we were reboached. Oh, you did.

I knew you. Fletch. Whoa. Oh, that fall. Oh, I love it. That was pretty exciting. We were going to ask you about Fletch. We got to do that.

That was in Boston again. The third book in the series takes place in Boston. Hey, Fletch guy. How did you, I mean, obviously you've been asked this question, but like, how did you evolve it to match, you know, John Hamm? Well, part of it was, you know, obviously I looked at it kind of like, and Greg Matola, who I worked with on this, we both kind of were like, it's kind of like a cover song, right? It's a cover version of a song. If you already have, hey, Jude. Yeah.

So why would you do it just like, hey, Jude? Like maybe mix it up a little bit. And so we were very cognizant of not doing Chevy. Yeah. And not doing, you know, teeth and wigs and this is and that. And we wanted to, we wanted to still make it funny, but we wanted to keep it more in line with the tone of the novel, which is almost more of like a hood on it. And, and he's still a wise ass.

still gets himself into trouble and has to talk his way out. And it's still funny and there's really, really fun to play. It was. It was super funny. And it was John Slattery's in it with me. And I got, you know, your bandmate, former bandmate. You guys have a lot of chemistry. We got the band back together in some way. So, uh, we had a great time. There's, uh, it was a blast. It was a, it was a, that was another character in my youth where we all. Oh, yeah. A huge movie and, uh, enjoyed that. Did you do characters in it where you're undercover? like with a mustache or something do you do any of that or we we didn't we kind of shied away from that we thought that that was a real good way to get in trouble in trouble with whoever

the comedy police sued by chevy it's fun to be the guy talking your way out of something and over the line basically the act as a actor right it's really fun like i was that's hard to do that's not my car that kind of stuff yeah oh no i i just came by to say hello and if you we got i got we had another part that was really fun for me because i don't really had a chance to do this a lot was like developing the script and then having like zooms like this but with comedy writers and having everybody pitching ideas and thoughts and we had like we had like murderers row we had paul appell we had bill hater we had so many great Robert carlock we had so many great minds that were kind of throwing out what a gift one of the best ones was and i won't ruin it

but it's it's basically the end of the movie that bill hater came up with it was like he's like i never seen this but what if you do this and he explained it to me i was like that's a great idea and we immediately stole it and put it in the movie what was it he can't tell you oh you can't tell us let's guess okay i'm beat bill hater all right what what if like uh all right at the end of the movie right you go uh hey uh you wake up right i'm doing i don't know where i'm doing i don't know where i'm you say it's a medium hater yeah it's a medium hater there's some One thing that's unique about Bill, he's so brilliant. And a lot of times comedians aren't an audience, but man, does he laugh?

He laughs. He's a good laugher, that's for sure. Lafers are so important in comedy. People forget. Well, now that's a must see. We can look for that. So John was, I have one question. I know we've got to let John go soon, but he's got to go to the airport.

A lot of the female fans asked if you would wear sweatpants to the airport. I don't even understand that question. I tend to dress up for the airport. Thank you very much. My grandmother taught me to wear a nice clothing to the airport. It's a big weaner question. I think that's what they're getting in. I have a feeling it was.

I like it. You were, we're about to say, bam, bam, thank you ham to this guy. I was waiting for that one. I stole it from your monologue.

Yeah, Wem bam, thank you ham. That was exactly the same one. Yeah, that was, they called you the hammer or hammer time or something.

Spader, what is that skateboard deck behind you? John, finally someone fucking asked me the tough questions. Dana doesn't care. What about what that That's how I paint

That's like what I do Go ahead This is There's an artist Richard Prince And this is a skateboard deck Because I used to skate I still milk it out

I'm not any good But my brother gave me that Because he's big into art And But I didn't know what to put in the background John's like Oh I have louvers I want everyone to know

I'm rich I have a skateboard deck That was signed by Tony Hawk Somewhere in here I think I might have Tony Hawk The best one Dana

The best skate So, guy, you're going to Switzerland. We've never had someone on the podcast who was leaving to Switzerland. You skip the fact that Tony Hogg was my stunt double in Police Academy 4? Was it? Dana? Your skate double? And he was about 6'10.

Yeah, he's a little. And he rides goofy. No, I ride goofy. He rides regular. I ride goofy. Yeah, John, we could tear it up. Fucking Melrose going to Belmont. William Morris drops you and then you become John Hamm.

Do you ever run into those guys and you get up in their face? a little bit or oh hi William Morris remember me yeah don't you think there's there should always be one person working for WME his name is William Morris so that you could go and be like you're the guy yeah the guy the origin of the it's literally like some schmuck in the mail room like what I just I what I didn't even want to work here they just made me I I went over there when they I started with Endeavor when they started that's how old I am and then they merged this Yeah. I'm boring in the audience again.

Okay. You know what people love to talk about? Yeah. Agencies. Well, they love to talk about people who doubted you, then you made it, and then you shit all over them. They like that revenge of the, hey, William Morris. You were in a Super Bowl commercial, but Seth Rogen did one with your precious

Paul Rudd. Were you jealous that you weren't the other guy, and it wasn't you and Paul Rudd? You know, I think that, yeah. The short answer is yes. Yes, that's the right answer. And knowing probably within the ballpark when we got paid for that, I'm really jealous. But yeah, you know, I think that, you know, the, the fun thing about commercials now is that no one gives a shit. It doesn't matter.

In 15, 20 years ago, like George Clooney did an ad or Brad Pitt did an ad and everyone that thought the world was ending. Yeah. Like, yeah, well, we're allowed to do that now? Like, cool. No one cares. Europe and they didn't know about it. But now, like Mel Gibson selling a Japanese whiskey or something. Yeah. Now you could do them. You can do commercials. There's no different thing. And you can be proud of it. Live streaming and movies. Everything is just obviously. When I started on

OnlyFans, everyone's, all right. Well, let's let John go. He's got a flight. Isn't it Only Fan? Only fan. No, mine does pretty well. I do pretty well. Half a million a month. Yeah. Gross, though. Look at Dana. I'm rich. I have stairs. Oh, people can't see his house. And a dark room under the stairs. I know, where are you? What if my wife came out of there with handcuffs on? Yeah, that's just, this is. Is that where Harry Potter lives?

Is that the lovely bones? This house was built in 1912, and yes, it has ghosts, and they visit all the time. Yeah. Are you in the San Francisco area? Yeah, yeah, Northern California. Russian Hill. Redwood trees and stuff. The same heights?

Yeah. Just my wife grew up here in this town. So just have a house here. I got to go to the Lucas ranch over in the Presidio. Oh, you did. That was pretty neat. That was pretty neat. That was as close as I got to being on Star Wars.

Well, guess what? I kind of know George Lucas and keep your phone close because you should definitely be in a Star Wars movie if you want to. They're going to keep making them. Oh, no, they had to take a break because they got greedy and did one every three months and everyone needed, we need two or three years. Oh, yeah. Did you go to the kennel where they keep the baby chew bottle?

luckas. All right, I'm out of jokes. I got to go. First comes a joke. Then comes no laughter. God damn it's failure. First try a joke. Joke not work. I try do. Then comes unemployment. It's no try. Babbas, bubitts. Is no try. Only have, I can't, I don't want to get blue. Anyway, I'm going to sing. We always close off with a song. Thank you. No, we don't. I would have gone with it. It's raining madman. Well, we've got to thank John for being super cool. And whenever I see you out, you're always nice.

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