Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - RE-RELEASE - Molly Shannon

Episode Date: May 20, 2026

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So I just saw Molly recently, Molly Shannon, and she is on the show. We had her a little bit ago, and she is always such a bright light. When you see her, she always smiles, she lights up. She has something to say she asks about me. And I think she's starring now with Will Ferrell in his new show, Hawk, because he was at the golf tournament. And, yeah, Will Ferrell is a golfer. Yeah. And I think she's the ex-wife, which is perfect.

Those two are so funny from S&L. Yeah, they've done a lot of things together over the years. Yeah. And a lot of people I know, she is definitely an S&L one. And especially women come up and go, Molly was so great. And she's such a good vibe. And she's kind of quiet in her life. And then she has these, you know, big characters.

So a lot to go over with her. Yeah. Yeah, you'll see. We talk about what she does for working out. That's very funny. It really surprised me. And she's just kind of in the running for as nice a human as you could kind of interact with. You know, this is just for me.

I was on a flight American going to New York. And this one was kind of like asking me questions and this and that. And she said that Molly Shannon went up and talked to her for two hours about her life and her family. And, you know, just the nicest person. Oh, really? She really gets into it and you go, oh, is this person actually listening to my story? Yeah.

Yeah. So I decided to try to go up there longer than Molly did because I was just competitive. Yeah, for sure. I'm kidding. No, she's very nice, really funny, super talent and just a great hang. So I would check this out if you didn't hear it the first time. And if you didn't hear it the first time. Do it.

Do it again. Why not go back for seconds? Here she is Molly Shannon. Amazing. great idea. Congratulations, guys. Thank you, Molly. And, you know, Molly, a bunch of high school friends and I chipped in and we bought a Bitcoin,

so I'll let you know how that goes. Okay, great. I like how we're very quiet. Yes. I have a card. You know, I like when people talk this way, like, sometimes if I, if a fan comes up and it's like, I just wanted to say that, you know, I'm like, I feel so relaxed by your voice. So I'll keep talking to them if I like the voice.

I think that you, I think I relate that to you, because maybe you talk like that in sketch, there's something, or maybe we've talked about the voice. NPR. That's where you did it. I've talked about the Senate of interviews, but I actually have something called ASMR for real, which is like a type of response to certain voices where you feel really relaxed.

That's what it is. It's real. I've had it since I was a kid. So Store, the game that we used to play, David, is kind of based on that. But it is really real. Like if a certain, if I ask, like a stranger for directions and say they had a certain voice.

they were like, okay, let me just get the map. And then they touch the map and they have a certain type of voice. It puts me in a very relaxed state. So is it like Zellick, Woody Allen, that you start to become them in a way? Like, hi, Molly. I'm just a really big fan. And you go, thank you so much. I love that.

She just keeps asking for directions. No, it's not like that. I love that for you. It's a feeling of like it feels almost like getting a massage. It's like, oh, this voice. I did it too. It's like when you were a kid and people would read your stories. If you got the right voice to read your story, that's what you want it.

Yeah. Some teachers had it. Sometimes when someone read you, go to sleep, you know, when you're little. Yeah. You just go lock into it and you go, oh, it's the best. And then you zonk out. It's great. Teacher would read the story and I'm in second grade and the teacher was like 25 and had like

nine long stockings on and a short dress. It was just sort of, it made you feel funny. Oh, boy. It made me feel funny like when I used to climb the rope in gym class where that came from. Anyway, I don't know where I went there. Wait, wait, wait. So you're saying that she would have stockings on. Well, just that first time I'd seen an adult woman, and they were very beautiful.

They were second grade teachers. It's the 60s. Anyone can be a teacher now. And they were pretty young women, and they would have just a normal skirt on and crossing them on crossing their legs. And I'm seven, eight or nine. I just sort of got a little tingling. It's when you start noticing women and you go, oh, I like this. And then they're not doing anything wrong and everything is sexual to you.

Yeah, they're just really sweet. They're just living their life and you're like, whoa. Yeah. She's walking. That's great. It's like when you love the felon love with the life card. Remember in seventh grade? I just made this up.

You know what I mean? I was like there's so much in her book and it's the only thing that isn't in her book about the life card. I have a question from Molly about your book. Okay. Great, David. You worked at cravings. Is that in Santa Plaza right here? Yes.

It's right near. Is it still here? No, it closed down. That was here forever. It was here forever. The best grilled lemon chicken salad and really good pasta. I worked there for about four and a half years. I love it.

I read all that part of your book and then I started in the beginning this morning. It's really compelling. Thank you, Dana. It wasn't like, oh, we get a book. We got a, okay, what? Dana's one was like very well-written. And I wanted to ask, how old were you and how long did you go at cravings? And when did you leave cravings?

How old were you? Because that's the only thing I didn't get. Yes, I worked to Cravings for four and a half years. And I got Saturday Night Live when I was 30. So, but I had left cravings, I think, a couple years before that. So from 23 and a half to 28. Something like that, yeah, about like that, yeah. But we had fun.

It was the, it was, it was, he, uh, Abraham, our boss hired really good people. So we would have parties at night and dinners. We had a blast working there. That's right in that strip where you can sit on the street at sunset, right? Now, it said here, um, that you were, was it improv and you would call people to come to your shows like a bringer show like you'd say, is that true? You made a bunch of phone calls. It said like 500 to get 200 people to show up.

Yeah, I would use, I was, it was before email, so I would tell my customers, oh, I do this comedy show called the wrong. You got to come see my show. What's your name? And they're like, oh, Ben, I'm like, oh, what's your girlfriend's? And Melissa? Okay, Ben and Melissa, give me your number. So then when I did a show in Santa Monica, I would pack the house with like 200 people, and I would just invite one industry person per show and make it like this hot show. But really, I was calling everyone myself.

Hi, Ben, I met you at Cravings. Can you and your girlfriend Melissa come to my show? Yes, okay, great. And I would make all these calls. And when I got Saturday Night Live, I took that box of name and phone numbers that I'd saved from all my waitressing days and threw it in the dumpster because I didn't have to call anyone anymore to invite them to my show. That's nice. Did you like the dumpster on fire or?

It sounds very dramatic. It does. You're sorry. No, I didn't light it on fire, but it was dramatic in that I took that box and I was like, you know, all the little papers went flying. By the way, it worked. All that work paid off. It did. Go get her then.

Yes. You got Marcy. Now, where did Marcy see you? Marcy Klein, talent coordinator for us and L. Marcy Klein came, flew out. Thank you so much. Thank you. Oh.

She's sweet. You, almond milk. I got to get some pastoddy. We had Molly some coffee in an Ellen mug. Yes, with almond milk. That's so nice. I, sorry about that. Can you just fill that anywhere, Molly.

It doesn't matter. Marcy Klein came out to see my stage. show. The Saturday Night Live producer and talent management well she wasn't a talent manager but she was in charge of talent or something. I heard he had a couple of headings Marcy. Yeah she was the

producer, talent coordinator but she came out to L.A. and saw my show and loved it and then she was like I'm bringing to New York to audition for Saturday Night Live so how fun. Yes. And you're on. Marcy was a big part of all that because she was there when I was there. She was in on my audition. She was in on yours probably

huh? Nope. Whoa. Do you guess it was at Dana's audition? Go ahead, Dana. Okay, this is a 30 second story about me. Okay. I was on SNO. I played Brown University.

Wow. And there was a woman in front that was kind of heckling me or friendly or whatever, and she had gigantic hair. So I did a comedian's trigger calling her big hair woman. That became a runner. It's an old comedian. So, hey, big hair woman. What do you say? So it ends up, that was Marcy Klein.

And then Marcy, the year, next year, comes to SNO. I remember her from Brown University. So when we have her on this podcast, I'll call her Big Hair Woman. Oh, that's. She has an incredible. And your audition. What famous singer was at your audition? Well, that was, I did it in Santa Monica as well, a little club called Igbies.

And Rosie O'Donnell was playing there. And I had to ask, I didn't even know Rosie O'Donnell. She seemed like the most confident person I ever met. Yeah. Could I lean in on your show and I'm going to bring Lauren Michaels? And then she said, okay. And then we flipped a coin. I went on first.

Lauren walked in, Brandon Tartikoff, head of the network. I go, God, I'm getting really nervous. And then Cher settled in. So that was my trio, three shot. Here's your life. If I didn't make it that night, I think I'd be working at, what was it? Cary's, Carnies. Where'd you work?

Cravings. I know it's gone, but I'd reopen it so I could work there. And how many minutes did you have, Dana? I was actually doing the stand-up thing route. So I had an hour, hour, 10, a stand-up. Amazing. But you would audition at the Comedy Store, and you'd. You do five minutes.

What was not special? Get off. Didn't work. I bombed every time. I followed Kahnison once. Dead silence. So this time I had it too good. In a real club.

Yeah. And I was just scared out of my mind. When Marcy saw you, did you, how was your nerve level at that point with your act? Were you getting really confident or were you nervous when Marcy was there or you didn't know who she was? Oh, let's see. She came to my, yeah. So she flew out and came to see my. stage show, which was about an hour, the Rob and Molly show. And I was definitely nervous.

I was, well, I was very excited that we got her to come see my show. So I was just thrilled. So we kind of, I had kind of taken off a year from doing the shows because I was like, I don't know if I have the heart to stay in this business. So really, a year before that, I really thought I might quit because then become a real estate agent or I don't know. But then I heard Marcy was coming to town, so I whipped together a show for the last minute. And I paid for the band and asked my partner, Rob. I said, do you mind? Could you do one more show, please?

And I'll take care of everything. I'll invite everyone. I'll just, all you to do is show up. And he said, okay, so I was just really just excited that she was there. And it was a great feeling in the audience. And so, but yes, I'm sure I was nervous. But then for my actual audition flying to New York, I had five minutes at stand-up New York with, and I got to do characters. And let's see, I'm trying to think.

Yeah, so that I was definitely very. very nervous for. Because you don't stand-up. Well, I'm just interested, you know, if anyone's hearing this and they're like at a theater group in high school or something, that you, Molly Shannon, was thinking, maybe I'm going to quit. Maybe I'm not going to do this. Yeah, exactly. I think we all think that.

And then 18 months later or something, you know, a talent coordinator from SNL and then you're on your way. So we had reinforcing mechanisms being stand-ups. That's how I made a living. So I couldn't quit. But I quit several times in college. I mean, I bombed so bad. So how did you deal with that?

Did you feel like you went into kind of a depression? Let's see. I never really got depressed for a long period of time, but I remember I had an audition on a lot in the Valley. I forget if it was CBS Radford. And I remember not being asked to stay. It was one of those things where you could see the girls who were going to say were going to go straight to producers at 5 o'clock.

You kind of know. They stay hang around. They hang around. You kind of know. And you say you can go. Yeah, and you get to know the girls on the circuit, kind of the comedy girls or Groundlings girls. And I went and did my thing. And they were just like, thank you, Molly, you know, like next.

And then I walked out to the room and you could see the girls who were being asked to stay. And I was just like, bye, everyone, good luck. My heart melted, you know, crushed. And I went out to the parking lot. And I saw this great actress named Catherine La Nassah, and she's just so lovely. And she was like, what were you auditioning for? and I think I forget what it was, but she was just so casual. And I remember she was like doing stretches by her car like ballet and stretching her leg.

And I was like, oh, I wish I could be easy, breezy like Catherine Lanasa not caring. And I was feeling dark like, oh, this is so, so much rejection. And I think I'll just go to Gelson's and get a half a chicken and go home and go to find shades and call out of night. Half a chicken. That's so stupid. I love it. It kind of sounds delicious, though, in a way. It was delicious, yeah.

And that is what I did. But I just, in that moment, was like, I don't think I have the heart for this anymore. This is just too hard. So much rejection. Yeah. So that's when I gave up for a year. I would be sitting in auditions, and it's so depressing with Brad Pitt next to me and going, like, are you reading for Hunk also? Oh.

Well, let's see who gets it. Let's stay friends after, though, if I get it. Anyway. I read for Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward. Did you really? They gave me a scene partner and I sucked. You've seen my movies. I mean, I don't know what I was doing.

So Paul Newman's there and I'm in awe of Kooland Luke. And he had these red socks on and John Woodward had a little dog. And I just got confused. But I'm with a scene partner and she was really good. But we just fucked it. And we went outside the room and I go, man, that went bad. She goes, you fucked me, man. Oh, no.

And Robbie Benson got the part. Robbie, if you're listening, you took her down with you. Robbie Benton really dig in a movie. Harry and Tonto it was called. Robbie Benson is a badass actor. But yeah, I felt bad that I took her down with me. Oh.

And I apologize to Sherry O'Terry, Terry, years later. No, I guess that's a joke. Were you just cold reading the scene? Yeah, you'd get it. You'd hold the script and you had a few minutes to look over it. It was a terrible. Were you a good auditioner, do you think, and just had bad luck, Or were you?

Let's see. I think, well, what about you about you? So I can't imagine you messing that up, Dana. I was terrified of acting. I was good at, like, doing my own comedy. Yeah. But to me, actors were, it was, I never took any acting lessons. I never did any theater group.

So it was like, what? I got to sound like someone else. It seems very easy now to me. Like, I can really act good now. Yeah, yeah. But I'm a little late to the game. So, you know, sometimes people look down on you, like, if they hear you're a standup or maybe improv,

if you're with actor-actors and I've been in auditions, and they go, so you're a stand-up, and I go, yeah, and I see them going, oh, boy. Like, they know, they think you're already, they're already winning. And they kind of are, because it is harder. Yeah. I thought I was so naturally good,

and I heard Eddie Murphy never took a class. So when I moved out here, I got some auditions right away because I was like, blonde, I was 20, I looked 15. And then I was like, I'm so naturally funny. So I didn't know what I was doing, but I'm just like reading. And I was, And they're like, he's horrible.

Like they just go, he doesn't know what he's doing. And I go, no, I'm naturally gifted. And I wasn't. And then I had to do two years of class because they wouldn't bring me back for auditions. They said he's too green. Oh my gosh. And it was such, all my heat went away. I got to town.

I had some heat. Yeah. And then it went away. And then two years later, I'd start again from scratch. That's so good. I know a little more. Like, I don't know how to hold the side. They don't look up or look down.

And you just need to have a little confidence to go in front of an acting teacher, say, when you walk in, do you do this? And she goes, no, that's a red fly. So then I just learned, oh, so if I just go in and I don't do these things, at least I'm in the mix. I read for Brandon Tartikoff. Did you? And right before, and he was going to give me a holding deal.

It was already all set. And I walked in, and this motherfucker, Dennis, somebody, head of casting. I'm in the waiting room. I got a coach. I went over my fucking size. I didn't know what I was doing. And he walks and he goes, oh, I think we're going to do these. Oh, no.

Took it out of my hand, put in a new thing. And then I go, this is a new scene. They go, yeah, they go, ready for you? No, no, I didn't have the balls to go, give me a second. I walked in, I just read it off the page. And I go, thank you. And I go, and my manager, Gervis, he goes, how'd you fuck that up? I go, what do you mean?

He goes, no development deal. He said you're too green. I go, well, they did the old switcheroo on me. He goes, well, no one's going to remember that part. I read a love scene with Lynn Stallmaster in a room and a dark big casting director, right? Oh, yeah, Lynn Stallmaster. He's a man. He's a man.

But it was just me and him alone reading a love scene. So I'm with this guy in a room and the lights are down. I care about you so much. Don't you understand? Yeah, well, I like you too. My name's Judy, as you know. I mean, it's like so. It's so hard on this.

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No, he looked 15. But you could play. I tried to audition with your, I had a box of props. Gross. and I waited at the improv. And you know, it's funny, I had a Batman sweatshirt on, just sort of signal I liked comedy. Like, this is kind of like a tough.

That's a good idea. It's so gross. But I was like, I'm kind of funny already, right? It was just a bat. And I was like, huh? And I got my top of the crowd and go, you don't even need to audition. I know you got something going on.

That's funny. And so I got, and then, Danny, you might have done this day, go every three minutes, they pull it out of a hat. But I think it's all rigged because it's even worse, because you don't get sick

in to buy your audition. Every three minutes you're sick because they go, is this it? Jim Squamckmire. Nope, nope, got three more minutes. And then that's all until midnight. Then they go, just go home. That's it, folks.

And I was like, oh, I never got picked. So I gave up again for a year. And then I came back to L.A. See, everyone quit. Try it again. Everyone quits. It's just the way home. You have to be a quitter.

I want to hear what happened when you walked into an audition room because when I walked into it and I'd see all these versions of myself. Yeah. Like really young boys. auditioning for the same part. Boys look at men with no chins and just sort of like, so I'm like, oh, this is me.

I'm part of this tribe. So when you walked into a Molly Chan, did you see versions of Molly? I mean, I definitely, when I started to get further along, there were definitely like, you probably audition opposite Groundlings girls, like really talented, kind of those really fantastic comedy girls. But before that, no, I don't think so. But I would usually audition for like the best friend or whatever that type of thing. When did you get really, when did you kind of, or did you always have it?

Because I was reading your book last night. But I just, your internal confidence. I'm always fascinated by that. Or is it? Because I would say mine would go up and down. Do you have, do you have, I mean, there's a Molly in there that goes, fuck these people. I'm fucking great, right? Yeah.

Get out of my way, you know? Or how do you process your talent and what happened to you? How do you process? Or is it just surreal to you? I think sometimes if I felt like I remember auditioning for a commercial and I was a waitress at the time. I didn't have a lot of money but they were just like kind of rude. These like producer writers were all there and kind of blaming the actors and no, no, you know. And I was just like, and all these really cool actors were auditioning.

And then I went and did it and I think they weren't really paying attention and they're just like acting disinterested. and they were making everybody wait for a really long time. And then I think when I was finished, I said, you know, the problem you have is the writing. The actors are all really good. These people are talented. You've got to fix your script. This writing is not good enough. Good one.

Because I was just like, I just, so I could be tough that way and just not care if I knew that something was right. I would get, I think sometimes that's a good, you know, sometimes if you feel angry, that can be healthy, you know, standing up for yourself. So I definitely did stuff like that where I was like, I don't give a shit, you know. They start treating you so shitty sometimes in those auditions. You go, anger. They don't even look up. They don't do anything. They know they're not taking you. They look at you, look down and go, oh yeah. They're out. And then they go, go, we're not doing the other scenes. That's the worst. Because you're the one person before you is there for 25 minutes.

And they're laughing and chuckling and really click in the heels. And then I read one scene. And they go, we're just doing one. I go, well, we're just doing one with you. And I go, Yeah. So I was so good. I got it just from that. Yeah. They're like, we'll explain it in the parking lot and get them out of here. Exactly.

And I understand I was working with the public all the time as a waitress. And so I was always polite. And so I just thought, yeah, it's disrespectful to treat people that way. So at any level, I don't think that. I do think subplanning anger for fear is just a nice move, you know. Like, I have a fear of flying. And sometimes I'll just manifest anger to myself. Fuck this thing.

Let's fucking light this candle, you know. Yeah, you know. It's just a good way to get aggression out, you know. Yeah. Wait, you mean that you, so you'll be. Fearful, anxious. To fly and then you'll start saying like, fuck this plane. Yeah.

Fuck this plane. Let's light this candle. You know, I don't know. I never see you mean anyone, though. Unless it's really, really. People like me, I'm a nice guy, which is kind of, it could be also, what an obnoxious, passive aggressive guy. You know, it depends what song you like.

But I had horrible anger issues in my 20s, and I would be nice until I wasn't nice. Never make a nice guy mad because then they have all this suppressed anger stored up. And I would go zero to a thousand with a bank teller or a director. And I never had a middle gear. Then I figured out, I have all this anger from my childhood, so I've been better. It's like Molly said, if you're bullied, I get that, I get bullied all the time. So all my whole life. So if you get pushed around, you get this.

or someone's very disrespectful. I snap on a dime. David, did you get bullied when you were a kid? Oh my God, nonstop. You did feel full what? When you were in grade school? I was a bit of a pipsqueak. I wasn't this strapping athlete you see today.

And I was always pushed around and I didn't have a dad. You know, and I was mad. My dad wasn't there. So one time I fought back on this kid in sixth grade and he kept push me and hitting me for no reason. And it was so humiliating. And then I'm like, it just came out like my dad left me. You want all this anger? And I just went bananas all.

on him. Wow. And he went down his back and I started beating the shit out of him and the whole school was watching. And he crawled up and he goes, the coach is coming. And he ran. The coach was not coming. What was his name? I love Oscar.

Oscar. Oh, yeah. Ranler brings him up a lot. Ronnie Carrasco is my last fight. Ronnie Carrasco, you know, called me out in seventh grade. We're terrified all day. Then this kid was like in fourth grade go, we could hear the punches, man. We could hear the punches.

And then you just get him in a headlong. Anyway, I had boys in high school. I should say all their names right now because they deserve it. They're funny to hear. When I would walk by, they would neigh at me like, oh. And it really hurt my feelings all the time. It's like, why are they doing that? Do they think that I look like a horse?

And it was humiliating. And I wish I would have spoken up or told, you know, the head of admissions or the headmaster. But I never did. I would just take it every day. And then I heard that it was because there was a horse named Molly in Animal Farm. And that was it? And that was it? Even dumber.

But every day. So mean. God, if we could call those guys right now. Get it out. They were twins. Hatsholes. I'm not going to say. No, no, I won't say.

All twins are on standby right now. Two twins and another one. And they were such dorky twins. By the way, Sandler bullies me because I told him that story one time. 10 years ago. And then now we're like we're doing a gig in St. Louis. And he looks out of the crowd and he goes, I think Oscar's here. And I go, we'll get the fuck out.

Oh, he kind of drool. He drops my heart for a second. Was he? Oh, shit. So you talk about him a lot. I just did to like those guys just because of the story. Oh, funny. I never heard Oscar.

Oscar. He just was rabbit punching me, which is illegal. I'm talking to some people at Little League and he just starts rabbit punching me in the back of the head. I'm like, and then immediately a circle around me. I go, no, no, there's not a fight. here, wham in the face. I'm like, I don't know, I can't get mad. I don't know what we're fighting about it.

If you'll explain it to me, I'll gladly mix it. Well, at least it was outside the house. I got beaten in the house and outside the house. No, but I kind of ran, which is. You did, why, Dana? Well, you daddy liked to get a little. Physical? Throw things around.

This used to be like a fun. I have a lot of questions for you. There's plenty of people had a couple whoopens. I'm not exotic. I was sort of the drill back then. But my child, that's a whole other issue. I have so many questions. Molly, if you don't start a podcast.

You're the most curious guests we've ever had. We can't even get to. Dana, you can't let that slip by me because now I have so many questions. Wow. I know. We'll talk afterwards. Okay. Is that still rolling?

We're going, right? Yeah, yeah. I want to talk about. Yeah, it is. A lot of things. I have to ask you about a stand-up comic name. I don't like that. You did a character, right?

I don't remember. I think I remember. Oh, Jeannie Darcy? And it was, don't get me started. Were you very, like, very monotone? Is that what you said? Yeah, she's kind of like on the spectrum maybe, but trying to get into sin of comedy. Has a lot of dreams, but really not gifted.

But she's like, don't get me started. Don't even get me started. And she does comedy about dating, but she's probably like, you know, very out of touch with herself. But so she does, but I love doing that character. I did it at the very end of S&L. And I purposely did it to not get any laughs because I was kind of sick of always, hey, you got to make a more. I know. That's funny.

That's funny. That's great. And I really just did it to. Because your jokes aren't really nailing it, right? They're probably bad, right? Yeah. Intentionally bad. Yeah.

And I did it to kind of make Jimmy Fallon laugh and Will Ferrell laugh. It was really kind of just for them. And the audience did not get it at all, which was perfect because I wanted it to be like dead silence crickets. And it took a while to get it on because, you know, if you put something through one, and it doesn't get on. You really shouldn't push it again. But I pushed it through again. And it finally got on update. And it was great. Would you do it with Jimmy? I did it. Yes, I did it with Jimmy. Yes, I did it with Jimmy. And then Scott Whania

wrote a version where I was performing at an old age home and like, don't get me started. Don't even get me started. Oh, yeah. I remember that. You know when men leave the toilet seats up and she would do this dorky comedy about men versus women. And basically, in the sketch, there were people dying in the old age home being wheeled out who would die. Their pulse has stopped and I'm still doing my stand-up and I have no, I don't, the character has no sense of she doesn't care if people are laughing or, yes, it was the most fun. So do you feel like you're more confident like that?

I feel like I was the most confident the day I stepped off S&L. Is that right, Dana? I kind of always have a part of me like maybe two more seasons because I finally didn't give a fuck in the best sense of that expression. Did you feel like at that point you're making Jimmy Fallon laugh? I mean, you must have evolved in terms of just, you know, after doing, you did 100 shows. You just feel different about doing SNL, right? At that point, there's a confidence. That's true.

I think Lauren's world is so different than Hollywood. Like, Lauren doesn't care when anybody thinks. He's like, I like, I like them. He'll take somebody and he doesn't care. He does his own thing. That's what I found refreshing, whereas maybe I felt the town of Hollywood before I got SNL was a little more like kind of people following people or, you know, Lauren just decides what he wants. He doesn't care what's being.

And they leave them. They don't fight him on everything. Yeah, he's so good. So I really liked Lauren's world. And yes, I felt like it was like a comedy boot camp. I felt like I got to a point there where I really started to enjoy it. I was like, you know what? I'm not going to worry about if I get something on or not.

I'm just going to enjoy it like a creative arts camp. Like I'm working with these amazing writers and such talented people that if I start to look at it more as like an arts camp, like a fun. You know, that then I could enjoy it more. I mean, look, we all know it's competitive, of course. But I changed my philosophy about it like three quarters of the way through there. I just started to really enjoy it. It's fun.

Like pretend like it's like a summer camp for creative people. Did people call me down? Because when I was battling nerves, and we've talked to Bill Hayter and others around the nerves of S&L. And then I'd come out and I would see, the church lady said, and I would see Phil in his costume, Phil Hartman. and I would see Jan and they would call me down. Like, these are my people.

I love it. They're so good. It's so much fun to have people that are pretty much whatever damage, why we do this, who we are in this little tribe against the world. It's nice, isn't it? That is so cool. So it sounds like what you're saying is that you would just feel like you're just with them and you could like tune out the outside.

Well, what do you see Will Ferrell there and you're walking into the set or Anna? You got yourself. You got somebody good. It's kind of calm me down a little bit. You're more excited and you're in it together. Exactly. Exactly. I actually, Will and I wrote the sketch once where we were two characters. We did at center stage, so there's no excuse to not get a lot of laughs because it was easier. And we played two characters who'd recently lost 100 pounds. And the sketch twinked. Not a laugh. But Will and I made a deal when we went out there. We were like, okay, if it's just crickets, we're just going to commit harder. Yeah. See, I love that. And we were looking at one another and like a twinkle in our eye like, oh shit, we are bombing.

And then we just performed it harder and harder. Like, can you believe it's a hundred bath? And nobody was laughing. I wish I could have a copy of this sketch. And it was just exactly like you say, Dana, like such a bonding. It's like, it's all I cared about was me and Will, Will and me. Nobody else matters. And this might be the most fun I have ever had.

And I feel like you have to embrace the bombing as much as the scoring because they really go together. You know what I mean? It might be a cleverer a bit because sometimes. the audience doesn't, if they don't get it, they sometimes feel like they're missing it. And they go, this is good because in the old days you do a sketch like, Cheapurger, they don't know why it's funny. And then they go, remember that great sketch? And Dan Aykroyd goes, oh, Conan's bombed three times.

Like they would just keep doing it. And then finally it clicks in that people go, I love this one. And it takes a while to get why it's funny. And sometimes it's not so easy where it's just like, joke, joke, jokes. Or I'm a crazy character. And they go, I get that. But when you're doing something very dry, that's fun. and if they stick with it,

sometimes by the end of the sketch or the next time you do it. You know, Molly, you did all these styles. You do this sort of very subtle acting. Yeah. And then you're doing Mary Catherine Gallagher. Yeah, yeah. And so that would be if the sound broke at a bar,

they're watching SNL, the sound was off. That was still going to get laughs. And then it was also funny with the sound. It was like an atomic bomb of comedy, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's so sweet. That character was so fun. I mean, yeah.

Did you not audition with that or am I crazy? I did not audition for that because there was a woman who around town who is calling herself kind of the unofficial talent scout who I won't say her name. But she was like, whatever you do, don't do that. Little character, Mary Catherine Gallagher, when you audition for Lorne, because if you do that, you'll never get hired. What? So I listened to her. Yeah, isn't that crazy? What a braille.

I had it with church lady. I had managers that said, you're doing that too much in your act. My stand up, you're coming off gay. You know, this is the 80s, the worst case. And here we go. I'm going to only do five minutes out of a 75-minute stand-up set. I'm only doing five minutes. Nah, it's too much.

You're coming off day, kid. Interesting. And did you do it when you had that stand-up audition when Lorne, Michaels was there with Brandon Tarterka? Yes. Yes. Yeah, that was in my quiver. And I bet Lauren loved it.

Lauren was, he said he knew at that moment. You know, I went through a further audition and I was terrified, but he said he'd already decided at that moment. Thanks. You had me a special. I love Lauren. I love the Lauren. You know what?

The thing is great about Lauren, because you're making me a nostalgia for him. Yeah. Is that he loves funny people. He loves us. He loves us. He just loves it. We're doing this. Yeah, yeah.

He really does. It's so sweet. He is truly a legend. And the thought of him not being there is just, uh, or I can't even imagine it. It's his show. You mean the show. It's his show. They've become one.

They've integrated. And he has so much love. You know, people don't know that about him. And he's such a deep thinker and loyal and funny and so intelligent. You still talk to him already? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, it's fun to talk about the show.

He's sort of has this, you know, he's a little intimidated first because he's so like, but he's so vulnerable underneath all that. It's still your boss always forever. It'll be like, that's my boss. Yeah. But he's sentimental. I mean, now that I'm back. After I turned 60, I just told people I love them and stuff, really casually.

Sandler did it when he was in his 20s. You're coming off gay. You're going off gay. That's what Sandler said. That's so funny. Your agent calls you out of the blue. I heard you told your friend you loved him. You're going to gay. Are he still there on that lady character?

Double gay. Get out of my sight. Wait, who's a manager who said that? You can't say? Oh. No, that's okay. You don't have to say. You don't have to say.

Yeah. It was a, you know, look, they... It was the Twos. It was the 80s and, you know, whatever. I don't know what I would say, but it was a big talent agency. And I don't think they were trying to fuck with me. And they really believed that because if you're not listening to the character, well, well, well, just sounds like, you know, you could say it sounds like a stereotypical. I'm playing some effeminate character instead of a church lady.

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And I think I remember when I was still there, we had overlaps because we did play store. You guys were cast members together. And lovers. And you weren't were, I know you wrote, but were you also paid as a writer or not? No. Not the whole run. Paid as a writer, no. Isn't that crazy?

We were there. We all wrote. I think they dropped my writing credit when I went full cast. but everyone still writes for themselves obviously. Yeah, we write. And people at home don't know that if you write, it's fun to write with a writer from the show because you have to have someone watch it, you know,

like from the booth when you're rehearsing, if you write it yourself and there's no one else involved, who's watching? I don't even know who watches it. You have to write to get yourself on the show. You got connected with Steve Corrin. Who'd you write the best with? I wrote with so many different people like Paula Pell and Steve Corrin.

But basically it feels like when I first got there, I was so, you know, oh my gosh, how do you figure this out? But it just takes, you know, feeling comfortable with one person in the room. I think you have to be able to be yourself. But I always tell people who are trying to get into writing, if you just have that one person that could be in the room with where you don't feel dumb throwing out ideas and you can really fully be yourself, that's all it takes, you know, or write by yourself. And if you're a writer, it's good to lock into someone else that's good because if you can write for someone, you see these writers that are like Tim Hurley's with Sandler for every movie. Like there's a lot of people that are double up and they just do movie after show after movie. And it really is important to find someone you can lock into on the show. I think what I was saying about Mary Cathar's, I think they were using steel folding chairs.

And I remember going, are those real steel folding chairs? There's no, she keeps falling on. I remember feeling worried for you. I mean, I've seen it live like, whoa, that looked gnarly. I'm back on to whatever you're falling on. I didn't, I was kind of reading your book last night. Like you were like another type of Farley. I mean, I don't think many people threw themselves around the 8-H.

Like you did in that character. And you kind of got in a hypnotic state in a way or you'd be read. I would just talk about that. Yeah, I felt nothing. I didn't feel the pain when it was going on. I would throw myself into metal chairs and do crazy stuff. And I look at that now and I'm like, oh, my God. I'm so glad I didn't break my neck or my back.

Yeah, I wasn't even thinking about that. But then the next day when I would wake up, I would definitely feel like, oh, my muscles hurt and I would have cuts and bruises. So I would feel the next day. But I also liked it because I felt like I worked really hard and threw myself into the character. And I really did want to perform and be physical and be like the boys when I started. And I really wanted to do that.

And then it also helped me kind of pour my nervous energy into the character. character because I was so nervous. So the physical aspect of it felt like a release. I got that. Yeah, yeah. And so how big, what was the evolution of that becoming a movie? You did it and then you did it and then it became a huge hit and it was exploding. And when you come out and you get applause, I mean, that feels great, right?

That feels so good. I guess especially because, well, it took a while to get on because I put it at the read through and then Lauren liked it right away. He was like, let's wait and save it and we'll do it with Gabriel Byrne. And then yeah, yeah, perfect. Yeah. So then Gabriel Byrne came. But then when it, for the show order that, that week for the dress rehearsal, it was on the bottom. It was at the bottom. And I was like, why is this at the bottom, which means it's probably going to get cut for the dress show. It was late in the show. It was late in the show. They think it's not going to make it. They think it's not going to make it. Yeah, they don't have a lot of it. And so I.

And so I, that, but that was kind of good because I thought, oh, I'm going to have to show them. And I think because I'd read it at the table, they weren't understanding how physical it was going to be. And because I'd done it in my show, that character in my show for so many years, I knew what it was. When I did it in my stage show, I would climb the walls and get up on the rafters and they'd have to pull me down off the wall. And did you have the outfit, sorry? Did you have the outfit in the stage show? No, in the stage show, I think I just wore a black skirt. She became a Catholic school girl.

Because it was very funny look with the underwear and her. Bobby socks, yeah. Yeah, go ahead. So then I thought I'm really going to have to show them. So that was kind of good. So for the dress show, I just really went crazy performing it. And people went crazy. It got such a great response.

And then I went into Lauren's office between dress and air to see what made it to the live show. And my sketch got moved from the bottom of the show to the top. Yeah, number one. And same thing happened with a church lady. Is that right, Dana? Something about these characters. Yeah. Did you have the smell of the armpits and superstar on the first one?

I did superstar as a joke. I threw it in for my friend because we used to always, my friend Deborah Palermo, as a joke, I used to always go, superstar. So I did it for her. I threw, I exited the stage as Mary Catherine Gallagher. Then I came back in and slid on chairs and just under my breath went, superstar for my friend at home watching to make her laugh. So we just thrown in back and then we kept it in as like a refrain. And then it became, it's just like a great exclamation point. Yeah, exactly.

Someone who just fell all over the place and owning it. Yes, exactly. And it's also. And so proud of it. Yeah, and it's a representation of my childhood, of overcoming hard stuff, and still having resilience and hope and maybe stumbling and falling and maybe looks like she's not going to make it. And then they rise above the wreckage.

It's a repeated dance of those themes. So you were able to, sometimes people ask me where things came from and all that. And I try to come up with an answer. Sometimes I'm not sure. But you were able for yourself to figure out at some point that that character was a manifestation of stuff that happened to you. Exactly. And it was like self-care, basically. Yeah.

I get to reenact this, but be superstar at the end. Exactly. That's so interesting. Yeah, it's like healing. Yeah. So before I was even in therapy, I would do the character on stage. And I remember a friend came once and they said, oh, that character, the schoolgirl, or wasn't a schoolgirl then, Mary Catherine Gallagher seems, she seems angry. I was like, angry, really. I didn't. I thought, oh, that's interesting. But because the original scene was just a girl auditioning to try to be in a David Lynch movie. And we would just improvise it. And I'd be like, no, no, you're not understanding. And I have to prove myself and get this person to, you know, like me and cast me. And so it was just a little exercise in trying to be seen and understood. And so, yes, so that's where art can, like, save people.

You know what I mean? That performance as a release. And does that make sense? So sometimes you can be in the, like, so in your work and being creative and not realize what it is you're trying to express and not be able to be objective about it until later. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think, you know, in a cartoon way, I think that's a really evolved way to think of things in that character.

I did a lot of passive-aggressive characters because I had trouble expressing anger. because I grew up with a lot of anger in the household. So you were just taught to suppress it. So Hans and Franz, I don't know. You can't even look at me and you're, you know, church. Well, you're in one quite knowing you're doing. So all my characters was kind of angry initially and passive aggressive. I guess that was healing.

So let me ask a question. So you felt so in your house, but you said that your dad could be really aggressive and violent. Yeah, but you had to, did you, what, how did you have to make? A shell's. H-HELs. I'm going to disappear, basically. So we weren't like, I asked Sandler about that.

Abash, oh, and his family was just like, they get yell at each other, nose to nose. Are you want to get some ice cream? Okay. You know, healthy. Yeah, yeah. This was not that. But it was the 60s, five kids, a lot of independence. See you later.

You know, so, I mean, I survived. And what was your mom like? She was sort of very sweet, but very dainty and very, and very. very much under his thumb. And she was the artsy one. Interesting. And she into you being creative. These big families, you know, we raise each other a lot.

We scrambled. It was like if there was sugary cereal, get it now, you know, that kind of stuff. Yeah, yeah. So anyway, it's very interesting. It's always fascinating. Like, David, he had an easy childhood. So it's still, he's so fucking funny, but with just a, oh no. David, David, what you're kidding?

David, you were raised by your mom? Yes. I'll take this question from Molly. Yes, you were raised by your mom. My mother, I was saying about Dana's mother. Like, it sounds like mine. She was very, like, creative, and she was a writer, and she loved artsy stuff, and always wanted us to do anything like that that we thought was, my brother was more artistic, you know, anything,

comedy, anything, she loved it. She loved writing, so she would always push that, but the dad wasn't around. I think you had sort of the reverse of that with your mom, and you had a tough, I think it's a funny. because all these comedians, it just always sort of is the same type of story where it's just tough, you know? And a lot of people have tough growing up. I mean, that's not a lot.

And they're not all comedians. Yeah. It's just, that's why we're not that special in that regard. But I did, I was lucky to have a mom that was very, you know, she had it dealt some tough cards,

but she tried her best. And the dad wasn't around. But I think the mom really tried to make up for it, you know. That's great. And she was great. She still around. Thank God. because that's a tough one.

I think that plays in everything, you know. Yeah. It only takes one. It's like I think you need something, yeah. If you have one good parent. I like the figure of sweets,

they say having a champion. Yeah. And when I was reading your book this morning, your dad became, your champion, like you can do anything. My mom was like that with all of her siblings.

That's, you know. Yeah. So it was, we did, we had a about. With all her children or all her siblings? With all of us kids. Oh, with all of you kids. That's so great.

So she's supportive that way. Did she stay married to your dad? She did. She did that so interesting. Interesting. You know, 1940s, 19-feited. I understand. It's that generation.

You don't leave. Well, let me ask you this. So she, so did you feel like you had to be more like her? No, I kind of took care of her. Yeah. Yeah. You did? I was her surrogate.

That's. That's so interesting. That makes sense. I had that a little bit with my father, too. There's nothing to be embarrassed about it with a... Oh, no. It's just normal codependency. How do you get attachment? How do you get loving? By behaving this way, you get it and you don't. I went to therapy too. Maybe we went to the same therapist. You are, I have to say, I don't know how much more time we have. We've already guessed quite like you. You're so interested in us and we love it. The narcissist. It's so interesting. Well, you guys are so talented. And I have to say it's so fun doing the show,

because I would rather hear you guys talk. Yes. We would too. Seriously. We're listening to this particular episode want to hear about Molly Shannon. Well, I like talking about anything like that because I think that that's, it helps so much. I like talking about it. Therapy helps so much.

Yeah. How long did you go? A long time. Okay. I went five years, but maybe I'll go back. That's great. She's driving me nuts. Molly's got such an interesting disposition because you're always upbeat and you're such a good listener.

and even we don't have to talk about it. But when we were at that norm thing the other day, you're such a good articulate speaker, and you speak from the heart about any subject. And just weren't out and you meet people. You're just very locked in. It's very hard. You don't see that a lot.

You think you do, but you don't. And so it's very, and then your whole upbringing, and just to this point in your comic, it's just, we're also been to the ringer in a weird way. Yeah. And it's funny because when you finally make it, you're like, what the fuck was that about? Yeah. Was it worth it?

But you're very, I just have to give you a compliment that when you're out and about, she's got such a good vibe about it. Everyone loves this. You must have a lot of friends. If you're a curious person, people like that. That's what I was going to say, but don't you think, like, sometimes I think going through that's tough stuff when your little does give you that kind of command of an audience, that control. You have to have some kind of weird skill to be able to, you know, do what you guys. guys do like get up and perform and know how to like hold a crowd. I mean, that's not an easy thing. How do you think your childhood gave you that ability to do, to have that special skill?

Oh, God, these are really good questions. It's maybe attention. I'm actually been recording the I, uh, yeah, I'm going to use it for my book. Hello, Dana. Hello, Dana. That's funny. Well, hello, Dana. Oh, my God, it feels so good to laugh. Oh. One thing I will think, though, is I don't like, I feel like, I feel like the healthier I become, I feel like I don't want to keep going toward, there's old patterns of going toward pain or this or that you're not good enough. It's like, oh, my God, after a while. Enough. Yeah. You know what I mean when you have your health and this and that?

Be happy, right? It's like, oh, my God, give me a break. It's the great thing you get. I have to ask you about the show where you, a QVC, it's called, I love that for you. I love that for you. And we talk to your lovely coast. Sure, sure. Do you know we talk to your lovely coast?

I actually saw the first two episodes last night. I saw one. That's so sweet. I love when you do characters and then the character does a little character voice. It's so funny. That's so such a specific thing only you could say. Oh, I love it. Just do a little bit because your characters like talking and then it's like whatever you do.

Well, you're for the people at home. Yes. I mean in their car. This is on Showtime with Vanessa Bayer. Yes. I love that for you. Vanessa is such a doll. I love that for you.

It's a really quirky, cool, smart show. You say what it is. Oh, yeah, I play a host of a home shopping network, and I'm like the queen salesperson, and I can sell stuff. Like, this is the cutest little jar of sugar. You see, you know, and Vanessa taught me how to do it, but this is what these women do, and they're very good at selling stuff. It's very funny to watch, yeah.

But Vanessa grew up watching it, so it's based on her childhood. And Vanessa and I were both from Cleveland, Ohio. And Vanessa is another one who she seems almost like she could be psychotherapist, not an actress. She's very calm in real life. Did you find that? Yeah, she's so grounded. I could see why you two would connect.

Yeah, yeah. And you played Molly, you saw one and she plays the CPC girl. And it is kind of funny for you because I like it because it's very calming to hear those people talk like you said. And you're just so happy. I could just drone on and watch them for a while because they're very interested in what they're talking about. They're very interested in the audience.

Yeah. And they're just talking to you and they don't fucking stop. And it and they showed Vanessa going through the audience. audition process of that show. And it seems very hard that show. It made me scared to be on QVC because you just got to run it. And they have a graph showing when the sales go down. You say something wrong.

And she accidentally smells something that acts like it smells kind of bad for half a second. And then the sales fucking plummeted. Yeah. Just now half a second because you didn't. I have a friend who trained for it for his for a shampoo line. And he said he was terrible. But they put you through training and there's a certain type of language I have to use, but he said if you talk about like, Mama or God, the ratings go up.

Like, my mama says, you know, this sugar is the best. Thank God for, you know, church on Sunday, you know, sales, tick, tick, tick. So there's just certain things. I wonder what we should say in this podcast to make our ratings going. I know. You don't say anything. Hallelujah, David. Hallelujah.

Hallelujah. Praise. No, I don't want to say that. I don't go for ratings. Yes, I do. No, I do. Molly, we... So, Molly, how do you...

Do you like apples? Do you like apples? What's your favorite? Have you ever... I know you like half chickens. Can I ask you a question? Have you ever at a dinner, been to it like a group dinner and just there was like a little bit of a silence or a lull on a conversation just said something just to fill the air? David, you go first.

That's all I do. That's a good one. That's all you do. Yeah. I go, do you like apples? I go, I go, I go to... I go to... what's your net worth?

That gets everyone going. Or have you ever encountered anything supernatural besides meeting me? And then people have ghost stories. And I did that with Julie Roberts and Tom Hanks and these people at this Shakespearean comedy thing. What's that? What is that? Tom would have, you would go on and you would do Shakespeare. But you could do it any way you wanted.

So I was just doing it as like, hey, how are you doing on Shakespeare? It's a big charity event he does. And this was 10 years ago. So then Julia Roberts and all these actors and we're all around a table and it's a little bit of like that small talk. Well, I think so. You know, you guys ever seen a ghost or any supernatural thing and then everyone has a story? Yeah. So Molly Shannon.

That's great. I ask you. Yeah, do you have you encountered a UFO or a ghost? Something you couldn't explain that kind of freaked you out. I lived in this apartment in Hollywood, Nan Ray used to live in. I like your question, Dana. and when I was a struggling actress with my roommate Brian Donovan and it had cathedral ceilings

and it was across an El Pollo loco on the corner of Fountain and Vine and I had just like a lot of... That's scary over there. Yeah, a little scary, but they're old Hollywood. Franklin Hotel or something. Yeah, yeah, it's a... It's a bit sketch, though. And we live there together and I remember we had a party

and this guy, this guy was at the party was like, Them's ghosts in here. And I said, really? Where was he from? He was from Arkansas. Does that scare you, though, about ghosts? That would scare me. No, because I didn't really believe.

But I would have dreams at night. I don't know if it was sleep paralysis, but I would have a dream where I was being held down only in that apartment. What? Did you have you ever had that day, I've had it at San Yer Cedro Ranch, which I made my wife, we left the hotel in the middle of the night. Wow. And I guess I had it twice.

Yeah. What the fuck is it? Yeah. Like a feeling? It's from nightmares. It's the feeling of a horse lying down on you. And then I had the house we have up in Northern California. It's from 1909.

I had it in there. Also, a white noise I had in there too. Interesting. Why is everyone sleeping? One hour's all right. Wait, what the way? Where's that going on? Yeah.

You're only those two things. But I'm not afraid of anything anymore, really, at this age. That's so good. But what happened? So he says, ghost, did you meet the ghost? No, but I would just feel like I was being held down or I would feel like there was somebody at the edge of the bed holding my feet down and then I would wake up. But it was only in that apartment when I left it never happened again. Isn't that weird?

We got to be scared. We got to get Dan Aykroyd on this podcast. He loves this stuff. He's into it. Wow. That's so cool. He would really be fascinated by that. Oh, my gosh. But you wouldn't, I would be scared shitless.

Yeah, I was a little scared. When I hear any noises, I'm scared. And I had another scary thing at that apartment, too, where there was in my bedroom a peeping Tom in the alley like I saw ahead while I was changing. And I was like, And so then I ran out to the front and called the security guard. I was like, Andrew, Andrew, come here, come here, hurry, hurry. And he came into the door and I almost have to get up and demonstrate, but I don't want to go away from the microphone.

Walked in and he came in, what, what, what? And then while he was in the door, he got in and then he slammed the door shut with his foot. And it was within seconds that I realized, oh, no, that was him. And now I just let him into my apartment. Isn't that scary? He was like, this, I'm going to demonstrate. He was like, what, what? Molly's standing up.

He's kicking her foot back. Scary? And now you lock. That's right. Then he was in the room with him. But I did quickly get him out because my, I just. Did you figure it out? There's a killer in the alley.

And you realize he's a killer in the alley. Hell, I didn't see anything anymore. You can go now. Yeah, I was like, oh. Me. You know what? You think there's a killer in the alley. He should have done, Molly.

He should have closed the door while you were behind him. And he should have gone, he's not in the alley anymore. And then he goes, he's in your room and turned to you. And then you would have gone, oh, my God. Oh, my God. Did you ever see that movie when a stranger calls? Calls come from inside the house. I don't see that to me.

I can't. Spat lives alone in a 19,000 square foot house. But no security. Are you, David? Well, I definitely haven't seen any scary movies. I would not see it. You wouldn't see how our film in this place. I didn't see any of the biggies.

No. No. No. Why am I inviting? I have enough nightmares. I want to add? No. No.

Exactly. It's stressful. All right, Molly, let's get me out of here. Molly, she's been great. We have one final question. Yes. She's the greatest guest ever. What did you eat for breakfast?

Dana first. Jesus. Dana first. Dana first. The same thing I have every day, Molly. I had one egg and one egg white. What a pig. I had some avocado I sliced up.

I had a half piece of sourdough toast. You're gay. Toast. You're gay, you get the gay. That's the name of the episode. So on avocado toast and those two things. And then my wife made a thing she calls a green drink, a little bit of pear and spinach and stuff like that. That sounds similar.

What did you have? That sounds exactly. A chicken. I had a Gelson's half a chicken. No. I just had a smoothie. I had a banana almond milk smoothie right before I came. David, what did you have?

You know, the big story is when you said that about Gelsons, when I moved out here to stay with the funny boys to do stand-up, I had no money. Yeah. And I just had change. Yeah. And he goes, you can keep the, there's change up on the counter if you want it. So I felt so embarrassed.

But when I went to do stuff, I would scrape the change, and I went to Ralph's Unfound way down. there. Yeah. There's Ralph's or something. And then I went and I got the rotisserie chicken and the thing. Same thing. And just took a harsh.

Because there's a lot of food for the price. I ate a hur. And they come home. I go, oh, hello. Christ, like, Kucho over here. I really went at it because I haven't eaten all day. Yeah. And then I know if I get a spot of the improv, you get a free pineapple chicken where

it's like a little breast with a pineapple circle on top. Wooft. Yeah. Because that was it. You don't know where the next one is. And so, but this morning, eggs. Oh, eggs. Eggs, scram.

And the only interesting thing, I've well done bacon, that's not that interesting. And then I have a little plain oatmeal, sir. A little plain oatmeal, no bread. Yes. I try not to eat too much wheat now. God, we're so old. Okay, good. Sourdough, it's the most benign.

Come on, it's Joe Biden, a sourdough. Okay. I know, it's inflation. I'm doing Biden. Is that it's inflation? It's a population. It's a part of the Caribbean. Is it a joke?

What? No joke. It's no joke. I'm not getting around here. Molly, a final question. Yes. Oh, we get the last one on her? The decks are clear. The kids are great.

Everything. What's a Molly's super day? Like, your mental health day. This is Molly's day off. Okay, I like that question. I definitely like to exercise because it relaxes me. Do you go for a hike? Run?

A run. You run? Yeah, I run. I ran this morning. Because it calms me down. I just can't do it anymore. I hike, though. You can't.

Well, hiking is so good. It has to go up a hill, though. That's amazing. So you start out with the run. Running and I would listen to a good podcast or a good interview or, you know, the daily or NPR or books on tape. So I'll do that while I'm running. Oh, okay. And then I also like swimming.

So a good day would be to swim for one hour. Wow. Wow. You're my hero. That's what I want to do. It makes me feel so happy. I've been starting to. to attempt to do it because they have a little pool at this one house.

Oh, that's so nice. So where do you go? Where do you swim? We have a pool in our backyard. So it's like 40 feet or 30 feet, 40 feet? I'm not sure, yeah, maybe. So you get in and you go back and forth. You're switching strokes?

No, I just do the breaststroke the whole time. And I also listen to interviews when I'm swimming. Do you get your hair wet? So how do you do that? I just have a speaker. I don't have the ear pods, but I just have a speaker. So I'm really like, you know, listen. Oh, you're kind of like this.

It's on the side of pool. So you come out, what gets you more just zen down? The run or the swim, or is it just the two together? That's a really good question. I would say, what do you think? I'm just coming on to the idea of swimming. So I feel like, especially if it's deprivation where you have earplugs and it's like people come out of the pool, like, whoa. In my olden times, my other times, I think hard cardiovascular breaking a sweat.

Yeah. But basically, let's put it this way. Your perfect day is 10 a.m. and you're basically blasted in a good way. Exactly. After you're running, your hour's swimming. So you're just like this. And now what do you do? Exactly. Then I guess if it's like a perfect day too, I might go to a steam, get a nice steam or sauna. And it makes me so relaxed. And I'm like, well, you're asking like a really fun day. This is like, well, like, this is your dream day. This is your dream day. If I have a little bit of free time. Then I would maybe, I mean, if it's a dream day, maybe I would, I mean, I haven't done this for a while, but I would love to go to a. pretty park in nature and sit and do creative visualization if you're asking for a dream

day. Like a meditative visualization. Yeah, meditative kind of writing. Some writing. We know some part of these things you do all the time, but now it's loaded into one day. Yeah, loaded into one day. But then, let's see. Did you go out to dinner with your husband?

Oh, my God. Well, that's later. So after I pick up the kids. My husband likes to stay in and cook. So I don't, but I love that about him. I love going out for dinner with friends, but he likes to cook, cook dinner and stay in. And of course, my ideal, my favorite. favorite thing is just spending time with my children. So they're 17 and 18 and I'm going to pick

my son up today at school. And my daughter and I are going to get acupuncture today. So I like stuff like that, you know, stuff that makes your body feel good. Everything to make you feel better. Do you watch any entertainment? Do you watch movies? You watch dramas? Yes. I just finished watching the dropout, Mike Show, Walter Show, with Amanda Seafreed. I loved it. That was so good. And my husband and I love documentaries. We're watching Love on the Spectrum right now on Netflix. Oh, Rosie's watching that, yeah. We're getting some high-fives in the room. Love on the Spectrum.

Just watch Pam and Tommy. Did you watch? It was so funny. Tommy's sons bought my old house in Encino. Really? That's so cool. They're in my recordings to do and in my pool. Oh, my God.

But I'm happy for them. Go ahead. And yeah, but no, yeah, my husband and I love documentaries. That's our favorite. Yeah. So watching TV with your husband, hanging with your kids. Hanging with my kids. Jacuzzi meditation, be it apart, relaxing, steam.

Yeah. Okay, I love that answer. Yeah, exactly. I'm relaxed just hearing that. Oh, good. And just hanging out in the house is so fun with my kids. There's nothing that makes me happier than just having a free day where you could just stay in your house and do whatever you want. I love that.

Yeah, I love being a dad. I love that hanging out with my kids. It's the greatest. Yeah, me too. It's my. Well, Molly Shannon is her tell me your book. It's called Hello. Molly.

A great title. Yeah. Because it's that you can never forget it. I love Molly. I don't you think? It's so clean. It's not like, my journey to the thing. What's name of your book, David?

It's stupid. It's not Hello Molly. It's harder to deal with. What was it called? I think it was called. Oh, one of them was called, this is a good one. A Polaroid guy in a Snapchat world. But that's a good.

A Polaroid guy in a Snapchat world. Because I talk about how the difference is when I grew up. Now it is now. Everything's different. I like that title. I like it. But Hello Molly's so clean and simple. You can sing it.

That's what's good. And you're also, I love that for you. Hello Molly. She's won awards. You've worked consistently ever since you left S&O, it seems like you're always doing stuff

with Will and they're hiring you for this and that. Now you're in this show. Life is good. Yeah. You're healthy. You can run. That's cool.

You can swim. We learned. Yes. Swing. Breastrope only. Well, you do or you don't get your hair wet. That's what we other people want to know. If I have a nut, I know, I like that that you're asking, David.

If it's a nice blowout, I would probably toss it up because I wouldn't want to ruin it. And then you're going above the water. Yeah, above. And just a very meditative back and forth. Yes, with some good reading material. Maybe I would listen to a New Yorker article on Autumn, the app. I do love that about modern digital technology. Isn't it the best?

Just you're driving and you can listen to World War II books. And like, so Hitler decided it was too late, you know. Yeah. I just can't get enough of that stuff. Is that right, Dana? Oh, I love documentaries, too. I kind of like everything. If wife wants to watch The Crown, I love The Crown.

And I like 2001. I see that every year when she's not around, you know? Yeah, yeah. So I like all of it. But I mostly like dramas and adventures and stuff. Yeah, exactly. Did you see the original staircase documentary? It's on Netflix now.

That's excellent. About the guy who maybe pushed his wife down the stairs? Yes. Yes. That's a good one. You know what, those things. You want to look for dysfunction, cow sales. Oh.

About a 60s pop band, family band. It's about their dysfunctional family. Very reminiscent of mine in some ways, but it's also their fame and their trajectory. The cow sales, I think it's called on Netflix. Oh, that sounds good. I'm Ted Sarandis's cousin. Yeah, wow. I also support Netflix on this podcast.

Or my special on that. Hot Ted. All right, bye, guys. Nice to meet you. Okay. Okay, good. Yay. Yeah, we do it.

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