Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - RE-RELEASE - Will Ferrell

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:15 Yep, such a crack-up. And Will is, you know, just funny. I mean, just listen to this, you'll laugh. It's a big audience there. He's always upbeat. He's game for anything. think he's the same as we are he comes he's not walking through it like when we had sandler he's trying to get laughs he's cracking up we're all cracking up making fun of each other these are the kind
Starting point is 00:01:39 that are i like the super fun just goofy stupid shit we talk about s and l obviously but it just is the crowd likes us and we go a little long but it's great it's worth it's worth the ride yeah it was definitely fun he's very sweet the first thing he said when he got to goes hey man sorry i i've been really busy out that I haven't been on your podcast till this long or whatever it was I go no it's fine really we're just a thrill and that's a night he got smother with autographed people out back signing shit oh my goodness I got mob because he he had a system to get out then you drove by off I got out well I was the last you guys celebrity with a small C there and was like cut it out man I was in a myasma of young people like it was like a rave off and I was
Starting point is 00:02:26 sign this and they were crushing each other shut up dude fuck you man it's like come on the show's great but that's not on the this next podcast all right here he is with with no further ado and no notes we just winked it will fail David and Dana Sinitory Dana Dave We're just to fly on the wall Down the hall
Starting point is 00:03:04 of S&L It's pretty good S&L. S&L. S&L. Dana and Dave. They got it. They know. Thank you. Hey, Dan, how are you?
Starting point is 00:03:36 That was Jimmy Fallon. on our podcast, got an acoustic guitar and made up that theme song as Neil Young. So, yeah. Now, can we play it again? Okay. Listen, let's, let's, thanks for coming. Let's get our buddy out here.
Starting point is 00:03:50 We got a good crowd. They know the show. They know Largo. And they've been waiting. They just heard the Gettysburg address read to them. So, uh, they're excited. A lot of rules. Ready for some jokes.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I talk to this guy backstage and he's not really on tonight. But you know what? Dana and I are going to cover for him. We're going to, he's going to come in the hot seat. He's one of the, I hate to say, all-time greats, first ballot Hall of Famer. John William Farrell, here he is, from S&M. Another step. Yeah, I know it.
Starting point is 00:04:23 All right, a little more applause that we got, but who cares. There he is. I'm going to go all sideways. Test, one. I'm kind of in front of you. Check, one. Will this is sybilance. Did you like they got my chair
Starting point is 00:04:47 from a fucking yard sale? I was like, that chair was put together like 15 minutes ago. I'm getting a better, I'm getting a worse, okay. This is a good angle too.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Yeah, I know. It's weird. To try to talk to day. So, Will, were you impressed when you first met me? If I lay back enough, I can catch both of you guys I can't even see you at that. I said, come on, he's not that tall.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Get him a five foot eight seat. Now he's got a bad back. Listen, I remember the night I got Spinal Bifida. I was at Largo. Spinal who? Oh, that was a great heavy metal band from the 70s. Okay, so, listen, we got time for one guy. What was the last time you heard a spinal bifida reference?
Starting point is 00:05:34 I don't know. I just said it, and then I felt like it's mean because it's like... It's very Dennis Miller. It's a spinal bifida, okay? The starting linebacker for the Detroit Lions, all right? Also, too, if anyone's worried, I brought my wallet. I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Look at how fat it is, you rich. Damn, that's a fatty. That's a movie star wallet, right? That's just from Elf? Do you carry cash? I still carry cash. You carry cash? You carry cash?
Starting point is 00:06:02 Yeah. There's going to be a fun giveaway tonight. Cash. I'm just handing out cash. I don't know there's an ATM here. Spinal Biff in a night in the Larkin Theater. Did you like some gum? Gum and get some.
Starting point is 00:06:18 You don't have to have it. Is it a trick? Is it a trick? No, it's nothing. Dana, all kidding aside, let's get to the series. Let's see. Where I'd like to start? Yeah. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I know. I can't see you at all, but it's okay. I know. I'm not holding it? Yeah, I don't mind. Thank you. I feel like, yeah, this is more Tony Bennett kind of.
Starting point is 00:06:41 The best is yet to come and I feel fine. Didn't you do Tony Bennett on the show? I did not. Oh. Anyway. Let's go to questions. Robert Goulet.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I did Robert Goulet. What did he sound like? Alec Baldwin did Tony Bennett. That's right. He did a great Tony Bennett. Okay. No, I did Robert Goulet. Bob.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Bob Goulet. Yeah. And he just had a very deep voice and referenced his appearance in Camelot. Camelot. Then we just write him in weird scenarios. I think he did a rap album with Jay-Z. We did a sketch with Jay-Z. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Yeah. And we also did a bit where it was Robert Goulet's musical called Red Ships of Spain where he didn't realize he was making out with his daughter his real-life daughter
Starting point is 00:07:43 Anna Gastar played his daughter at very Anna played his love interest in Red Ships of Spain it turns out was his daughter
Starting point is 00:07:56 the whole time you can't write this stuff oh you did write this stuff I did well let's go back to the beginning will let's go back to begin. Can I do a childhood chunk
Starting point is 00:08:06 to get us all warmed up? Oh, okay. Because I want to take Will to 10 years of age. That far back, okay. That's here. Okay. But hold on. I just want to say it's a pleasure to be here. Thank you. Thank you. Great to be here. You guys. Very nice. Thank you. Dana Carvey,
Starting point is 00:08:22 one of my all-time favorites. You can't tell me. Great. Sketch players of all-time. David, you did stuff too that was interesting. But. Thank you, Will. You're on the Mount Rushmore. We're going to the after party together.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Spade. Little train that could, you know. Listen, it took me a lot of. Charlie Hustle Award every year at the banquet. Give it to Spade. I. Charlie Brown, you always knew for him. But in all honesty, Dave was, you were still with,
Starting point is 00:09:04 the show when we all got hired and you were you were like a big brother to us you kind of showed us the ropes yep and uh we had a year overlapping a year overlapping you were super cool to me especially to all of us took me to dinner multiple times hung out gave us words of wisdom you remember one time i invited you over to the upper west side to have lunch and then i yes ate before you got there yeah isn't that funny isn't that funny why i remember that but you always eat before i know but he wasn't even late it was not even his fault i just it was i don't think i was at all. No, it wasn't. It was my fault.
Starting point is 00:09:37 But that was just, maybe I was nervous. So he's eating a meal when you walk in. I guess, I think I was finished. And I used to back, wait, sorry, what? No, not at all. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Back in the days where I was thinking, do I want to get into comedy? Can I even get into comedy? Do I even have the guts to even try this stuff? I would go to open mic night at the Irvine Improv. Oh, I love that place.
Starting point is 00:10:04 and uh almost get the guts to sign up but sit in the back of the house okay and just watch the comedians and and go oh i'm funnier than them yeah yeah oh i'm funnier that ooh no not that guy that guy's really good but spay you hosted one i watched you host open mic and uh next i know you're on s and you're like what the fuck really i guess anyone well then anyone can do it on But you were super funny and relaxed. I was like, oh, man. You know, when I saw you on SNL and you guys, Farley, Sandler, those kind of guys,
Starting point is 00:10:43 that whole team that I was with left one year, I heard they got fired. I did not know they got fired. Did you hear that? I heard they got fired. I want to meet the guy who fired Ms. Farley and Adam Sandler. They got to go!
Starting point is 00:10:53 There's nothing there. No more gas in the tank. Chris, come in. Get him out of my sight. I don't see a track record. I don't see it. Nothing there. Lauren was like, Chris, come to my office and clean your locker.
Starting point is 00:11:12 But we, well, I stay in an extra year, which I don't know if that was good or bad, but I stayed. And then I think maybe you and Sherry O'Terry and maybe Molly, they all came in. And the first show that you did, because I felt like sort of went to college but came back and sat on the wall in high school. Like I should have just left with everybody. Right. But I stayed and did like, I had five minutes a week to do my own thing. You want some more glory. But yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Yeah. I was milking it. Yeah. Some to the kitty. Ew. So then I said, okay, I think the first show you did that I remember you did get off the shed. Is that, is that true? The first show.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah. And that was one I didn't know. I didn't know your audition. I didn't know anything. And I thought, uh, this guy's got some fucking game. Because it was such an odd ball. Didn't see it coming. didn't know where it was going sketch
Starting point is 00:12:01 and then I think did you think it's what I auditioned with actually you did get off the show the audition because I saw I saw a clip of you doing the cat and maybe that's sort of a viral clip to dead silence am I crazy it was it didn't do well
Starting point is 00:12:15 no it was literally it was just a guy in his office who was like you didn't give it much setup by the way there's no there's no set up I want to know what played to silence so Lord Michael's sitting there if you got anything else
Starting point is 00:12:30 and you pull this out. Well, we've heard the shed thing, but is there something else? In 8H with a spotlight on you. Horrifying. No one else in there except Lauren in the back
Starting point is 00:12:44 smoking a cigarette, just his little ember of a cigarette. Holding that little bit of a cigarette. Yeah, a tipporillo. It's funnier when you say it. And the premise literally was I think there was a table and a chair and a phone maybe a prop phone
Starting point is 00:13:03 and it was like please hold all my calls and then I just started playing with cat toys like an adult on the ground like hitting a toy like that yeah and then the secretary would buzz again and I'm like yeah tell him I'll call them back in 20 minutes and I go back on the ground but it was to dead silence I was shocked and I remember thinking in my head like well this is going to be a really
Starting point is 00:13:29 good story when I go back to L.A. And they're like, what happened? I'm like, well, I thought that would be funny to play with cat toys on the ground. They're like, wait, you did that in your audition? You're like, no, it was funny. The guy who fired Sandler and Farley loved it. He loved it.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Now that's comedy. Because the guy doesn't play with cats. I think I'm living in a walk in a little bit. Sorry. It was cat toys. He like lays in the ground and bats around like a piece of yarn and plays it like that. And very funny. And I was watching it because it was like
Starting point is 00:14:00 it was like on Yahoo News I'm like they're like Will Ferrell's first audition I go oh I don't think I ever saw this and then you do that and it was like crickets I go yeah who's there Marcy and Ken Among and that's it that's it because no one not you're not required to go to auditions I don't think I only went to Louis CK
Starting point is 00:14:17 was like Bobby Van Rye going get him next time guy yeah yeah stage manager nice try kid so you do that you do get off the shed did anything do well no because there were no laugh he yeah i think Lauren did they tape it and watch it
Starting point is 00:14:34 they would tape it and watch it was being beamed back to like Burbank at the same time it was being he's at hamburger hamlet I'm using the technical term beamed yeah local reference it was beamed you're being beamed
Starting point is 00:14:49 but Molly Shannon told us something about you very specific that I love she said that when you were in a sketch on SNL and it started a tank we're all being on always that you would triple down. It would go harder at it. Like commit. I'd either commit
Starting point is 00:15:05 or slow it down even, yeah. I'd take longer pauses in between to torture lines to where the point Wally, the Q card, Wally, a Q card would be pointing.
Starting point is 00:15:22 You have more. So sometimes if the Q card guy thought you weren't seeing your line, they would point at it at the line. Frantically. So I took like a 15 second pause before I delivered the next line.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Wally's... Yeah. You're in blue. That's you. But yeah, we would... I had this perverse thing of like, okay, audience, you don't like it now.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You're really not going to like it. I'm going to punish you for hating this sketch. even more that's a good angle break out on a cold sweat you had some kind of confidence but I want to talk about when you I first met you and I knew I would like you because you did something yeah I was coming back hosting you know hey watch out we had a couple nominations how are super nervous and but you came up to me yeah and you had a shirt I know you had a shirt with a zipper I think and you just got really close to me right in my space unzipped it and this massively hairy chest and just leaned in with a smile hi I'm will you know I didn't quite In real time I realized Okay, he's doing shtick But for a second I thought
Starting point is 00:16:37 Is this guy have spatial problems? You know? Just let him do his thing But he's leaning in And that zipper came down A little more, a little more Than the belly bun and he wants you to get his scent And then he'll relax
Starting point is 00:16:53 Musky But that was that was fun And that was when we did Did I do Rossboro and you did Larry King, because Lorne Michaels talked about that. I did a fabulous Larry King. Lorne Michaels called you out. That sketch was great and you were great
Starting point is 00:17:09 as Larry King. Oh, I was so terrible. You never posted, Dana? You were like, don't worry about it. I'm going to carry the whole thing. Well, I had an ace of my pocket by the name of Ross Perot. So it's the easiest laugh I ever got in my life. I was like, all I could do was like,
Starting point is 00:17:27 I'm Larry King, here we are. Ross Perrault, what are you? I think you carried it beautifully was a precursor to Alex Trebek playing the sort of straight line. That was good. People know your cues but being funny with the straight line,
Starting point is 00:17:43 you know. But anyway, that was funny. But I think we did Bush and Bush Jr. I had the antlers. I kept banging the antlers. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I'm doing George Sr. who's 6'4 and W's 511. So I had Herman Munster's shoes like to hear and they patted me up
Starting point is 00:18:02 he's coming in as my little baby son basically so at one point Will plops on my lap there he are son how are you and if you play it back on YouTube you hear me go oh we're on a deer hunt or something or hunting deer I tried to yeah there was
Starting point is 00:18:20 because I'm rattling the antlers another time we were out hunting and I told you to go out so that I would get taken care of yeah it was clear Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just keep down into the woods. Keep walking. And then, Daddy.
Starting point is 00:18:33 It was of Mice and Men moment. Yeah. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Yeah. Well, I played a Ross Perra in a rehearsal. He was in the wide shot. I was in a wide shot as Ross Pro. Do you remember playing Woody Allen?
Starting point is 00:18:52 Do you remember we did a sketch? Was it the Woody Allen? Yeah, you did Woody Allen. Was it the Woody Allen? in a classroom scene with Seinfeld or Jason Alexander or was I just playing him
Starting point is 00:19:05 or something I think you were just playing him did you do I don't even mean to be didactic or facetious but Android Previn yeah I was playing the actor
Starting point is 00:19:14 the actor who was his buddy I forget which film it would just go Max Max! Max you're crazy Max yeah yeah maybe it was some smigel sketch I did it once
Starting point is 00:19:26 once a cold opening where Rob Schneider was playing soon ye yeah and i can't i know yeah it was the early 90s right so i come out i'm gonna do a citizens cancel i come out live and there there's no rob schneider playing soon ye and the cue card guy's going like this and i'm like i can't even you know she's not even here you know i don't know what i'm going to do you know because i can't so i had to just do that he's in the he's in the makeup still he was in the makeup chair sorry sorry about that i didn't know wouldn't he i'm sorry I thought it was gap girls.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Sorry, go ahead. We do a lot of characters on the show. No, but when I came back to host, Will, no applause. When I came, when I, no, I'm just saying, you pick your spots. They're hanging on your every word. Yeah, they're good listeners. That's why. All I remember, they're really good listeners.
Starting point is 00:20:20 All I remember was, I think there was an Army sketch, and then you had a hard brim hat. Do you remember the idea of this sketch? And then when you came up to me in air, you were poking me in the face with your hat, brim. Sensitive. Stephen Craig wrote that sketch. Oh, yeah? Yeah, it was...
Starting point is 00:20:36 What was the story you were... A sensitive drill sergeant. Yes. But I barked out all the commands, but it was all loving therapeutic advice. Yes. And then when you got up to me, you hit me in the forehead with your...
Starting point is 00:20:52 And, of course, it threw me. It was like an old... Point Farley used to just start to make you laugh on it. air but uh it was really just fun being in a sketch with you because when i did my year where i stayed too long uh is what we're calling it now uh but i had my own five minutes and then i but i didn't do sketches so i felt a little weird because you guys were doing stuff so we weren't super connected but i would like to see you guys and stuff but coming back to host we were all part of it that was fun because all the whole thing i remember hosting was that one sketch with him and because
Starting point is 00:21:25 you know some work some don't obviously And I think that one is where when I hosted, Sandler was going to be in my monologue. Remember he did an audience member? Oh, what are you doing? You're so mean. He would stand up. And so we had a whole monologue that. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:21:41 No, he was like a very timid guy with glasses and called audience member. And then he had done it a few times. And so he's doing it when I host. And then that morning Waterboy opened or something, he had to fly back to L.A. And then they go, Lauren goes, well, it looks like Adam's out. I go, out of the monologue? Well, I don't have monologue. And he goes, well, aren't you a stand-up?
Starting point is 00:22:03 And I go, I mean, sort of. I don't really do it anymore. I work at this fucking dump. 20,000 hours a week. I haven't done a set in eight months. And he goes, maybe just seven minutes. That's all you need. I go, yeah, but I need it polished.
Starting point is 00:22:21 I can't run to the comedy story. I can't run anywhere. So I put together, I don't know how we got to do. It sounds like a fun challenge. It was a challenge. And it was, I did a bit about a polar bear and I did a bit about something else. But it was kind of fun and terrifying.
Starting point is 00:22:35 And then I remember your sketch. Thus. That was great doing it with you. That's all. Every moment of S&L, fun and terrifying. Yeah. Very scary. Do you remember, have you ever said no to a Tuesday dinner at Orso?
Starting point is 00:22:48 With the host? With host and the one. I think I finally over, because I remember you guys talking about this in one of your. one of the podcasts that you finally work up enough courage to say no but I think it took yeah because I remember you saying Dana you're so ridiculously true five seasons before it felt like it was like your home gym or before you stop yeah and I literally remember your words it literally
Starting point is 00:23:20 took me five years before I didn't feel nervous every single second and you you had the same experience. Same experience. And so by year six and seven, I think I was I finally had the guts to be like, I'm not going on a Tuesday. Usually, there's a Tuesday day. By then you, I think somewhere you, you went to this other gear. I don't know what
Starting point is 00:23:40 when it happened, but you got good. I think it was the last week the last week of my last, yeah. Your last show. My last show. Cowbell and then I think you left right after Cal Bell, right? Every every best of sketches in my
Starting point is 00:23:56 last show of the seven seasons. I heard Caldell. I was on fire. You asked them to do Bike Bell. So were you nervous then because Bill Hader told us that he was having panic attacks the whole time. I never was able to see it. Like literally panic attacks in the bathroom by himself crying.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And, but you control it, but were you breaking out? I never got that bad, but there were, um, there was just, you know, it got less and less with each year. Yeah. And it would always surprise me. especially after that first year where you're like, okay, I think I've gone through everything you're going to go through
Starting point is 00:24:33 where you potentially are going to get thrown. Yeah. It would just come out of the blue where it would be, I don't know, it wouldn't even be like the first show of the season. It'd be something like the seventh show. It's like, why do, I don't have a good feeling.
Starting point is 00:24:49 This is not going to be good. It's an anxiety cooker. It would just come out of nowhere. Yeah. And that'd be fine. the rest of the year, but it's inexplicable. It's two things happen, I think. There's people like Eddie Murphy was a savant, you know, basically at 19.
Starting point is 00:25:05 But I think for most people, you get a little more confident, and then the audience starts to see you, and then you get a little more confident. And then finally, when the audience sees you come out, they're kind of excited, and then it builds on it. I've seen it happen with a lot of cast members over time. That's why Lauren says, do, you know, well, with me, I was newer, but like a feature player, but do a few lines here, a few lines there. just to get them to see your face and know you're part of the situation so then they know okay he's one of these guys and then they will buy you when you do a full sketch but you came you were one of the ones that like dana where you came out and you had to be a full were were were you a full cast member when you spent well we were we were really lucky because that year before yeah uh got rid of all that dead weight was when they got rid of the deadly sandler farley sandler get rid of them cleaning out the dead wood Myers this clown
Starting point is 00:25:56 Fires Dana. He's good. Phil Hartman. Spade me. I was hanging out of the door like Titanic. I love it. You know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:08 So, fumigate the place and start over. So we had a brand new, we had a brand new cast and a brand new writing staff. Very weird. So we didn't know any better. We were like, it wasn't that,
Starting point is 00:26:21 because I've talked to past cast members who were added one at a time, like by themselves and that's super or mid season to try to break through that way in fact molly was mid season the year before i got there oh she was there and we were laughing because she was like what is this you guys get like cue card training and and you get shown where all the here's the wardrobe department here's your quick change area i didn't get any of that my god yeah and and she was just laughing going she was like i was a little mad actually you guys got to did you get trained on the cute did you do you remember anything like that
Starting point is 00:27:00 no one even talked just terror i mean my thing was freaky because i in the first show i was in the cold opening and i didn't know it was the cold opening i was just in it i did i knew it was my first time doing sketch comedy it was hard for me not to look at the audience like a stand-up yeah you know and then the church lady popped and came in and i had sigourney weaver and phil and jan and so then that took off crazy so i was just in boiled in water immediately and then chop and broccoli but no one Chopping broccoli Cheaping broccoli Which
Starting point is 00:27:30 That was in my first show That's your first show? Yeah Oh my God The cutaway to Phil By the way Oh yeah Just him and Joe
Starting point is 00:27:38 Everyone just going This is the worst song ever And then Phil Hartman Just going Yes Phil Hartman I'll give you As great a compliment
Starting point is 00:27:47 As I can You remind me of a lot of people Peter Sellers And you also remind me Of Phil Well thanks Because you were You were Alex
Starting point is 00:27:55 Terbeck That would have been what Phil would have played that character. But Phil Hartman and Dan Aykroyd were like my guys I looked up to. Because I just loved how they could swim. They could be the main guy or be the background guy. Yeah. And that's what I loved about ensemble comedy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And, you know, everyone who knows them both just said they're kind of scientist, comedians. They would just, Phil would read, you know, books about Evan Rood motorboats on the set, and then pick up a script, kill it in the rehearsal, come back. And Akroyd's the same way. He's interested in science and astronomy. He came to host when we were, I don't know if it was that first year or the second year. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:28:32 He comes back to host. And I'm in the room. I think it's with Tom Janice and Adam McKay and Kekner. And I just can't, I don't know what to say to him. I'm just sitting in the chair. And I'm just like, that's Phil Hartman. And he finally picks up on it. He's like, what gives with the Farrell kid?
Starting point is 00:28:54 what you got your tongue it's like do i walk out of the room i was like no i just what these guys said let's just uh yeah i mean i'm writing the thing that they're going to write for you too and uh but he was just uh what a great yeah there was just something about him and he was so effortless and he didn't care, and he was so assuming about it. Yeah. And we, that's why we nicknamed him the glue. He was just somebody who was always there. But, God, he picked up on the fact that I just, I wouldn't, I couldn't speak.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Yeah, couldn't speak around him. God, that's so interesting, because now we have data of where you went and where you're still going. Yeah. And to hear this stuff. I feel like it kind of. Yeah. Stopped. Do you remember when I ran?
Starting point is 00:29:50 I stopped. You remember when I ran to at the Laker game? say it. I haven't seen you in a while. I run into the Laker game. You're like, oh, hey, Will, hey. Hey, hey, sorry about the career. I came and hide my jealous rage.
Starting point is 00:30:07 You're like, hey, by the way, I'm good to see it. Sorry about the career. Yeah, sorry everything went up on a fucking rocket ship. No, because the first time I saw you was at Butterfield and Butterfield. Oh yeah, you heard me Oh man We worked at an auction house That is Christie's now I think on a sunset
Starting point is 00:30:29 And I was buying Elvis Memorabilia And I took my Oh Elvis's credit card New money Yeah And I bought an Elvis set list Joey Esposito
Starting point is 00:30:41 Who is Elvis is one of his buddies Was there authenticating stuff I got a set list That he wrote out his handwriting And I love Elvis I bought one of his guns And then I bought a And then it's watch.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And I thought it was cool as shit. And then you worked there. Yeah. And then you, I had my Lion Cruz, which I still have tonight. And I, you walked me out.
Starting point is 00:31:02 And that's where I met you. And then I, when I saw you at us now, I think we remembered that you worked there. Right? You didn't work there. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 00:31:09 I worked there in my, my then good friend. And that was the last time I was funnier than you. Later, my wife. And, oh, yeah, she worked there. Oh, that's right. She was the auctioneer. Oh,
Starting point is 00:31:20 Hey, badda, yeah. Exactly like that. Hey, badda, hey, badda. Hey, ba, da. Can you yell out a number? You keep saying, hey, better, hey, better. We can't follow the bidding. But it was interesting seeing you there, and then, obviously, we joke around with the monster movies after that.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I mean, we could talk about SNL because I was going to ask you, before we get to all these movies, what was your favorite commercial parody you were in? Do you remember commercial? parodies? Did you do a lot or not? Yeah, I didn't. I was a little bit bomb. When I first started, I wasn't in, I don't think I was in any of those initial commercial
Starting point is 00:32:01 parodies. Usually it was sort of like jury duty because it takes you away from the show a little bit because you have to dedicate a full day to shooting it during the week and now they do a lot of pre-tapes during the week. You see the host in a lot of, I mean, they beat the shit out of them out of them. But you'd come sometime in September to start. You can go do them early? Oh, yeah.
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Starting point is 00:33:13 price, on link on c4 or in magazin. One thing I'm just quickly very interested in because I, you know, you think everyone knows everything about you. But what was that transition from USC to being, to the ground lanes? And then how long at the ground lanes till you got on SNL?
Starting point is 00:33:30 How fast did you get on SNL from when you started? So, I graduated SC in 90, moved home immediately, which was great. Back to Orange County? Back to Orange County. Okay. Good move. Everyone was super psyched about that. So that's in 1990?
Starting point is 00:33:51 Yeah. That was 1990. I'm back, Dad. Yeah, I'm back. Thanks for the education. Yeah, thanks for the degree. And I then was going to try to be a sportscaster. That's what I studied at SC.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I was going to go in. But at the same time, I thought, I better, I better try this comedy thing. If I'm going to give a shot. Because that was from a childhood sort of inkling, prankster and all that. Always liking it but too afraid to try it. And that's when
Starting point is 00:34:27 I started taking classes, the growlings, trying some stand-up comedy. Pretty darn good. Do you ever play the cannery down in Newport or the San Juan Depot where an actual train goes through?
Starting point is 00:34:43 You're set. Why are you performing? Official comedy clubs. Yeah. Okay. But I don't think I was in that club. You're like shakies. Nino's in Long Beach, an Italian restaurant.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I did not. Yeah. All the big spots. I did. Yeah. Sir laughs a lot in Glendale. Godbusters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:01 The rib tickler. Minneapolis I play. That's real. But I was doing some stand-up. I was doing, and growlings, you have to, you work your way through this school. Yeah. And, but the courses are so booked up. You'll finish one level.
Starting point is 00:35:17 You gotta wait six months before the next one opens up. So then I was just back at working odd jobs. I was a bank teller. And this is in 91, 91, 92. You're still doing odd jobs. And then I think 93 I'd get into the main company at, or the Sunday company at the Groundings. Did you have a character that you had developed at that point that got you to that?
Starting point is 00:35:41 Was Harry Carey around? Harry Carey was in the main company. Yeah. So the Sunday shows like, their minor league team and then you get into the main company and that's when get off the shed sketch
Starting point is 00:35:57 I had done and I started doing Harry Carey that was during the baseball strike one year inspired character and I thought oh baseball there's no baseball games right now wonder what Harry Carey's doing
Starting point is 00:36:12 with his days I thought it'd be funny I should set him in like an act class doing a play reading of a super dramatic play. Perfect. And so I wrote this sketch about Harry in a community theater rehearsal space. And, you know, I was like, okay, let's take the scene from the top and, you know, right. And then it was Harry Carey doing like, damn it, Carol, what happened to us?
Starting point is 00:36:44 I look at your eyes and I don't see love anymore. Boar. You disappear. I literally, your face from this angle. I didn't see Will for a second. I remember Maggie Baird, who was,
Starting point is 00:37:01 she played my wife, but the other act, they had to play, I said, you guys have to play it really, like if you can make yourself cry, do it. So they're reading the lines like,
Starting point is 00:37:09 I don't know, I just, we're distant. And she's like getting herself to cry. And then I'm playing off of that. Perfect. It was madness, but the audience, I knew it was working when the audience was laughing
Starting point is 00:37:22 without any knowledge of who Harry Carey would. They'd just be like, who's that crazy guy you do with it? Yeah, yeah, they just sounds funny. So I'd done that, and by that spring of 95, that was when we'd heard SNL's looking to recast. So it was pretty fast. It was like two years. Did you have anybody in a position of authority,
Starting point is 00:37:45 a mentor or someone at the ground lines or someone who pulled you aside at one point said i i think you're really can do this or it was a really supportive i mean was everyone sort of given you feedback was it more supportive than s andl well i would say typically yes but we the group we had at the show yeah you were kind of like you got kind of lucky we got lucky our back was in that group That would have been Molly and myself. Chris Catan? Chris Catan came later. Anna Gassner.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Anna came the next year. Sherry. Sherry O'Therry. Norm was doing Tim Meadows. So, Tim, Jim Brewer. Wow. So everyone went on from there. Steve Carell's wife, Nancy Walls, who was on us to know.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And it was a lot of people who had done sketch comedy. So everyone was just kind of like pulling for each other in a very on SNL way because we knew like, ooh, the show's about to get canceled. Not to mention everyone in network television saw there was blood in the water. So we had to go up with Mad TV premiered. Oh, yeah. Howard Stern had a sketch comedy show. Oh, really? Your first year?
Starting point is 00:39:03 All that was funny. But I think, and you did your show? In 96, yeah. That first. It made half an episode. They pulled us out. Were you guys doing it on a Friday night, maybe? I would, I think, though, it was right after Spin City or Home Improvement.
Starting point is 00:39:20 And there was a fourth, there was a fourth, there was four or five different sketch compi shows that whole year. And in Living Color might have still meant on. Maybe, yeah. Yeah, the state, maybe. So, anyway, so we were, we were like actually pulling for each other. Sort of friendly. Was cheerleaders that first year?
Starting point is 00:39:37 It was that first year. So you had a couple that really works. no danger. No, no. There was Yeah, no, no. Don't ruin the flow. You're getting it wrong. When I say my stuff. Yeah. No, no. No, but cheerleaders must have, I think it crushed from immediately
Starting point is 00:39:54 and then you did it a few times that year. So, you were in no danger feeling down deep. You might get fired or anything. You were doing well enough that first year to go. I'm pretty solid. Except they did a thing where I think we were signed for the first nine shows. Oh, going to pick up? Oh, gross. But then, but then, it was a gross pickup.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I mean, it's just. But then they, dare I say, they broke the contract and they said, nope, you're just picked up. You're picked up for just five more shows. Wow. And then we'll see if you're picked up for the last five. This is your first season. Just getting these little pictures. That's what happens when I date girls.
Starting point is 00:40:35 They pick me up for two more dates and then they go, we'll see how it goes after that. I'm sorry I don't have to laugh No, no, you don't have to do It's all right They thought you said it So he started laughing No
Starting point is 00:40:47 He's been so But it was still So It was still It was still Heroing It's by the way I don't think
Starting point is 00:40:54 You're ever Relaxed there going I got it made here So I don't think That's ever a feeling If you're new Even if you're doing great Except those last couple seasons
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah At the end Right But I did have a fantastic So when my Arbitrarily That my last year when I just decided
Starting point is 00:41:11 that would be my last year for no good reason. Yeah, for no good reason. Yeah, whatever. Just felt like the right amount of time. Lauren took me to dinner to talk me into staying. Chili's? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Houston's? I can get us in. I can do Hillstone. Houston's at 9.30. Does that work? After the rush. Yeah. These dinners are very interesting. So Will you're going to stay
Starting point is 00:41:41 That's how he does it sometimes You'll stay another two years Oh yeah, I just tell you He'll tell you what's going to happen It was at pastis Oh Okay But how awkward
Starting point is 00:41:50 Because you want to say no You want to leave right Well you'd already filmed old school But we'll get to that right During Yeah that was in the can That was in the can
Starting point is 00:41:59 But no one knew You didn't know where it was That was in the can That's a term for It's been filmed It's edited But they haven't shown Because they used to have a cell
Starting point is 00:42:08 Wait, you did that in a summer and then you came back into the S&H? I think I did it partly through part of that, the fall of that seventh season. Okay. So how did Lauren pitch you? Lauren said the most, he said, so I understand
Starting point is 00:42:22 you're thinking about leaving. And I would just suggest this. You're at a high point right now. But you want to start just to begin to dip. and then you should leave. And I was like, but Lauren, that seems counterintuitive. Work for John Lovett.
Starting point is 00:42:50 When Lauren doesn't really want to hear an answer, he always goes, just think about it. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, just think about it. It's that trajectory, I'm going to draw the chart on a napkin. And I remember, I'm going, yeah, let me just think about waiting for me to get. And then leave it. I will think about that.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And you just said, I'll think about it. And then we never talked about it ever again. But it seems like, you know, you did Molly's movie. You did a lot of, you did the movie with Chris, and you, you know, you were kind of, and then you'd done cowbell and everything else. It seemed like your timing was impeccable. I mean, you were ready, but you could have killed for three more years in the show. If you wanted to. I mean, if, no, if anyone had put a show biz gun to my head and said,
Starting point is 00:43:36 this is all you get to do. I would have said, great. Yeah. That was the hardest, most fun job I've ever done. Most exhilarated, bizarre. Right. Yeah. But yeah, we...
Starting point is 00:43:48 I couldn't hear you. Did someone put a gun to your head? Someone put a gun, Elvis, one of Elvis's old guns. Oh, God, damn. Bought an auction to my head. Don't use mine right back on me. Comes around. This crowd does not know what to do because...
Starting point is 00:44:04 I think I was in a dark night. Club in Scottsdale. Where I'm from. Camelback in 54th. When you did, so in the summers, you did, that's what we would try to do is a movie in the summer. So you did, what was the first one? Was it superstar?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Were you in Superstar? I was in Superstar. The first one, was it Roxbury. I think the first one was Roxbury. I heard the original title was called A Day at the Rocksbury. Then you go, maybe night. Night. Oh, we're doing Burry.
Starting point is 00:44:36 this month. Is there any way you could still shake your neck like that or no? It's too hard. I don't know if I can't. I don't know if I remember what the motion was.
Starting point is 00:44:45 It was... Oh, man. Is this love? If I did it now, I would just hold my head still and go, try to trick the audience. Like a little cardboard cut out.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Actually, that's a sketch Katan and I would do at the groundings. Oh, you brought it in. So we brought it. So we brought it. that in, but do you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 I'm sorry to interrupt you, but for the audience, if they don't know, but we say it sometimes, when you come on, when I was there, you would say what sketches you had when you came in
Starting point is 00:45:18 or what characters. Right. And then you own them, even if you did them on the show, I think Mike owned Wayne, Wayne's role. And then I was just, no, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:29 No, they were pretty tricky about that. I don't know. We'll own it even if we don't own it. Maybe 50, 50? And then whatever you came up within the writer's room,
Starting point is 00:45:40 they own, right? Is that how to work? Yeah. So if you came in with that, and then I think it's more incentivizing if you would think if it was a sketch, they own, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:53 because Lauren was doing a lot of sketches for a while. Like even Tommy Boy was sort of us at the office based on, what was that movie? You guys. What was Tommy Boy about? I get the top of the hand.
Starting point is 00:46:05 And then And then Wayne's World Let's get some box office numbers out here Roxbury versus Tommy Boy No Tommy Boy Let's see We was pulling coin down town
Starting point is 00:46:19 We weren't a big hit though Rocksbury maybe made 30 We barely We made probably 35 We barely Really? Yeah Wayne's World was the big hit Yeah
Starting point is 00:46:29 Tommy Boy made like 50 No it just made What about black sheep? what about what black sheep black sheep made about the same but they sort of did better in
Starting point is 00:46:43 as it went on like on video but but some movies like that in hindsight you probably thought they made more but it didn't
Starting point is 00:46:51 it opened number one and so did black sheep but it wasn't like a huge killing but it just sort of resonated over time which helps because a lot of them do better
Starting point is 00:47:00 and they don't resonate you know how it is you got a lot of movies life on actually all as DVD years did well, but to other people. Not really. DVDs are huge.
Starting point is 00:47:09 What was your biggest bomb, by the way. Live streaming is so over. Let's get some hardware going. I want to put it in a slat. No, it was like, I remember Walmart said, every time people throw in Tommy Boy or Joe dirt when they come by in the aisle, and it doesn't go down.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Every week they get the same amount of people, they just go, I just throw in. I just throw it. So that made money, I guess, for them. But not really me. I like those ones that kind of live on. There's not that many. But when you came out,
Starting point is 00:47:40 so old school was such a monster. Was your idea to be naked and streak because you did that before? Or... It seems to me that you wanted to treat America. You got a comfort level of using your body, you know, in a very funny way. I had a comfort level.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Yeah, I had... You would streak in college, right? Or is that made it? I had. Yeah, I had. my dad's in the audience tonight. Oh yeah, you're trying to overthink your answers. I, I streaked in college,
Starting point is 00:48:10 dad. Your dad is out there right here on our audience. It's true. But yeah, well, I was always that was the thing I loved about Chris Farley. Yeah, Chris would do it too. I remember thinking, okay, I'm going to meet people
Starting point is 00:48:26 that are just as funny as me and people that are much funnier than me, but the one, I'll just, they won't be able to out-commit me. It would be, it was like, My promise to myself. You fulfilled that promise. I don't think anyone committed harder. I had no problem taking my shirt off during sketches and things like that.
Starting point is 00:48:45 But I do remember reading the script for old school and reading that joke. And there's sometimes a disconnect that you read it and you go, oh, that'll be funny until the day you actually have to perform it. And you come out of your trailer. What are you wearing a robe? How do you come out of your trailer? I agree to shoot this. And we were shooting.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Will, it's time for the run down the street. Little marble sack. Yeah. As they say. In the industry. Yeah. And yeah, we shot it here in Montrose. Anyone from Montrose here tonight?
Starting point is 00:49:23 I've only heard about that on the members of the band Montrose. But yeah, we shot that right out here near Altadena. and I just remember we were shooting in in front of a bunch of stores, storefronts, and there was like a local health club. And there was all these yuppie people working out, getting their power walking in. And I said to the PA, like, does anyone, has anyone told them what's about to happen? Because I'm in the robe and I got the marble sack attached to the crucial area. And does anyone know I'm about to drop the robe?
Starting point is 00:50:04 And do we want to tell, you know, some kid on a headset like, what? Huh? I don't know. We want to get real reactions. Okay, back to one. I think we're going to film it now. We're ready. That first take, I'm running.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And I'm trying to, I'm like, honey, we're all going through. I'm hearing off in the distance through the window of the health club, Oh my God! Oh! Oh! So many pews. And then we shoot it, we cut, we reset. Another take?
Starting point is 00:50:43 He's not going to do it again. There's like one old guy in there still power walking. Extra. By the third take, health club totally cleared out. No one wanted to watch me run naked down the street. How many takes? it was probably more than we needed camera from behind and from behind crane crane shot got to bring in the the super 50 techno yeah um yeah side shot yeah and then camera
Starting point is 00:51:13 in the car where I go in butt first to sit down so yeah bunch of shot bunch of day and I know this is supposed to be out well I remember that movie day and I mean well can I say one embarrassing story oh this remind me a walk I have to move for this is it's not worth it at all. But we'll take it out later. So this is embarrassing because one movie I did called Warning Shot, it was sort of a drama and there was... Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Warning shot. That's when you played the Kingpin, right? Oh, yeah, it was a bad guy. The drug lord. So I was a drug lord. Dana, I knew you'd see the trailer. So I... You sent it to me. Dana,
Starting point is 00:51:55 we're taking this all out anyway. It doesn't matter. I got to watch Warning Shot now. Well, watch it on the plane. I want to put it in my notes. Here I am. You got it down for sure? Warning shot. Warning shot.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Okay. And I don't want to give the whole thing away because everyone's going to run home and watch it. Who directed Warning Shot? I don't know if we had a director. I realized halfway through we were just all talking. AI directed it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 So they said there's a part where I get Squibbs, Lingo. So there's a gunfight. You're going to get shot. So they have to leave me, they have to squib me up. So they put like little, you know, Pepsid ACs on you that blow up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:38 Like whatever. But they have to, I don't know if it's electronically. They have to tape it to you. Right. And they actually make, it like makes a spark or something. A little small explosion. Right. So they tape a couple here to my bird chest.
Starting point is 00:52:55 And then, but I'm at lunch eating a burrito. and then they go, hey, shooting after lunch, I go, but like you, I don't even think about it. And then I go, oh, wait, I have to, this guy's coming in here. So the special effects guy's got like a ponytail, you know, this guy. He comes in, hey, it's like a sound guy that's in your face. It's never there for when it goes wrong. Yeah, he goes, we're going to do these.
Starting point is 00:53:18 And you might feel a spark. And if there's a full fire, we'll, you know, we'll address it then. And I go, okay. Which means it's happened. Yeah, which means it's his first day. So he goes, they just pulled me off this other thing. Home Depot? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:34 So he goes, okay. So he wires me up like shirt off and then they go one, two, three, four, let's say. And then they tape them down and now they stick them on. And now they have to go down my pant leg and then, you know what I mean? Like out the back, the wires. And then the guy has like a little blow-up plunger. Yep. So I have to put my pants on over that.
Starting point is 00:53:56 So these are on here, and they go back like six feet to him, and he's like, got it. And then in my trailer, and I delicately put my shirt on. They go ready for you. So I start to walk out. He's following me. And then I start drifting off on the way to the set going, what are my lines, blah, blah, blah. Take that, dagnav it, or whatever I'm saying. And you were playing like a macho bad ass.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Yeah, like I'm a tough guy. So I'm just, I'm, this is the embarrassing. I'm drifting off. And then I go, and then three, two. in a row just to myself I don't care I'm just walking
Starting point is 00:54:30 and then I hear behind me hey come on man I forgot I forgot he was six feet and already leaning over hey come on man
Starting point is 00:54:44 because I'm first team the worst thing he can say is come on me he wanted to bust my fucking head and I go it's cool
Starting point is 00:54:52 it's cool it wasn't cool it was so horrible I I couldn't apologize, but I had to laugh so hard first because it was so uncool. And then he's walking through. And then guess what?
Starting point is 00:55:05 The squibs went wrong after that. Squibs were a relief after that. I just walked on the set. I go, are we ready? And he's like, blam! And I'm like, oh, early? It's usually the indignant special effects person who they get mad at you,
Starting point is 00:55:24 even though they didn't have it hooked up right and so filming a night at the Roxbury we one of the gags was we're driving we're doing the head thing yeah and then Catan smash it does it so hard he smashes his side his window his passenger side window with his head and it explodes but that's all squibbed up so that's supposed to just crack smack that's supposed to crack with the aid technology timing when he touches it down special effect guy same same guy yeah he's waiting by the console you know going hot cool dialogue coming in hot yeah you're timing it out you're rehearsing how many head okay we'll do it on the fifth one and on the fifth one chris will go like this so we're doing you know what is the and we're doing our thing and
Starting point is 00:56:17 One, two, three, four, whack. Side does nothing. The side doesn't break. Doesn't break at all. Guy comes in, it's like, I don't, it's all checked out or something. Wasn't plugged in. As if we're supposed to go, oh, great, no problem.
Starting point is 00:56:45 Fuck. But Catan's got, like, a Shiner. Weld. Yeah. And he's like, do we trust him? Do we do it again? He goes, are we doing it again? But it's, they get so excited when they discover their issue.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Yeah. Yeah. He's like, it wasn't my fault. It wasn't plugged in. You're like, that's still your fault. Isn't it funny? It wasn't plugged in. Can you believe it?
Starting point is 00:57:12 Styrical. It wasn't plugged in. Show business is different. That's all we're saying. It did. But I do love the guy like, come on, man. Oh, he just kind of.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Come on, man. He did, the harshest he could go is, hey, come on, man. Like, and then I was like, oh my God, he can't yell on me. It's so, because he just. But we always found that with the effects guys on SNL. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Like, if you had a gag, you had to bar for something. Like, please, we need so much blood. It's supposed to be over the top amount of blood. You got it. It's going to be so much blood. dressers show like one spot and you'd look over and the guy would be like I don't know what I'm sorry I don't know you want more than that you're like yeah I want the funny version of the
Starting point is 00:57:58 funny version and like then add a hundred percent to that we did it with alec Baldwin and we were in jay more we were all like every cop that came to a set goes I think Phil comes up and he goes this is the sickest most gruesome set you know I've ever seen car crash right he throws up and then he goes captain captain what's going on then he throws up and it was just a joke of we all throw up and like me and jay by the time we got there we were newer and we had two lines but the throw up wasn't working as well and it goes it's same thing up your leg up a hose and it got him back and then at rehearsal we're like guys more the same thing yeah please funny throw up it's got it goes everywhere and it's too much no one's mad it's too much is
Starting point is 00:58:43 better. And I think by the time we did it, it was either a leaky faucet, you know, it just barely in your life. And then it's funny because you're like, it's just a little because it's coming out of your arm. Little spittle. You have to act like you're barfing and it goes like that. Right. There's a... Spray my whole face.
Starting point is 00:58:57 Funny. Anyway, that's not. That's neither here nor there right now. No, no. No, but... Do you have any other stories you like to share with? Did you do... Were you an anchor man? Because I didn't read everything. I know you were in... No.
Starting point is 00:59:13 I auditioned for it, but I was the guy, Ron Furgatby or... Was Burgundy, that wasn't something from S&L, right? That was something you thought of after. That was after. Yeah, that was after the show? And was that one of your first, you left S&L? Was that one of your first starring in movies? Old school, old school.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Came out? Came out after I left. Crushed. While we were filming. Yeah, so I left and I didn't really... Crazy. I had old school that was film, but they held on to it, which is usually a bad sign. We didn't release it until later.
Starting point is 00:59:51 After Anchorman. No, no. Before. So it was old school. And then we were working on this script about an elf. Oh, Elf was back then? That was not enough. That needed a bunch of work.
Starting point is 01:00:04 So when I left the show, I didn't have this stack of scripts waiting for me. But holy shit, they come out with those three. Old school elf and Anchorman were the first. first few movies I did after I left the show. That's unreal. At old school, you go, you're crazy. Is that what you say that? After the trend dart? Yeah. Yeah. Hosterical. Yeah. So many parts of old school were great when Vince Fong goes, hey, you need some sand. I got a sand guy.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Everything about old school is funny. Love that one. Elf obviously was such a huge home run hit and still to this day. But Elf was, that was a little scary. only because I'd come off of S&L and old school known probably for doing more PG-13 edgier stuff. And then you're in a...
Starting point is 01:00:57 And then I'm in this family thing. That's risky. Going... This could be it. I don't know. I'm just sitting around... It's a big swing. It's a big swing.
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Starting point is 01:01:42 But your style, I guess I'd say, is you just, you never wink and you commit like a dramatic actor. Yeah. And that's what kind of holds you up. Well, Elf, all those things. Thank you, Dana. Yeah. I'll say the same thing. I said the same thing.
Starting point is 01:01:55 I said it before you got here. It's Dana. You can do a trick that Kevin Nealyn can do. You can lower your IQ just 20 points. Right. Just with your eyes. Very subtly. And it's genius.
Starting point is 01:02:12 but every time we were doing Hans and Franz cocky idiots and we were talking and they go 5, 4, 3, I'd look at Kevin and his eyes would just go really dumb yeah, he could lower his IQ like 40 points but you have that skill set of being able to just take IQ off with just something about your eyes
Starting point is 01:02:35 I think that's good. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah. You need that. Kind of like a guy, what was his name? Sounds Sellers Peter Sellers
Starting point is 01:02:44 It's kind of like that guy Pete Sell I call him Pete Sellers Did Because you do have Some symmetry with him A lot of comedians
Starting point is 01:02:51 Want to claim Peter Sellers But I do think You have something And you know That cocky idiot Character That also is very
Starting point is 01:03:00 Dry Extremely bizarre Word packages With a lot of Physicality Anyway I just I've been researching You
Starting point is 01:03:07 For that's That's how started thinking of the Ron Burgundy character because I was watching footage of this news anchor who had been retired for 20 years, but he's still talked like this.
Starting point is 01:03:23 And I walk through my local market and I'll be ordering, you know, I'll be buying my groceries and people will hear my voice and they'll know, they'll ask me, were you in news? And I say, yes, I used to be. And I thought, who talks like that? Like, what?
Starting point is 01:03:40 You're not a news guy anymore. And I thought, oh, that's funny. Someone who never loses that affect. Yeah. But all the stuff writing that, San Diego's funny, casting it right. There's so many ways to do a movie wrong. Even if you have a funny character. Like, you got to get it directed well, written well, perform it well, edited.
Starting point is 01:04:01 There's so many ways to ruin it along the way. And that's why sometimes you sign up for a movie, it just doesn't come out. Because there's so many ways to mess it up. But to have all those work all the way. through is very, very tough to do. And Ancerman is one of those that has hit on all cylinders and then the sequel, I was watching the
Starting point is 01:04:18 fight scene from the sequel today. And it's so fucking funny where you're thinking of different ways, they have different news people and then everyone's playing it as funny. And they keep coming in their different groups. All that was funny and topping the first one was hard, but you did that with that.
Starting point is 01:04:33 Also, two days with Kanye West. I figured out that was Kanye. I'm like, Kanye made this cameo, but he filmed his thing, and then he just hung out the next day. I just stayed, yeah. Playing Yeezus for us over and over again.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Whether you wanted to hear it or not. Yeah. That's demo jail. Yeah, it was wild. Interesting. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:00 Yeah. It's funny. I used to be, yeah, whatever. I had a guy like that, and he would play his album over and over in the car and then in the house. And then you didn't want to say, no, you, you already played it. but I'll listen to it again give you another shot at it yeah yeah that was funny because I saw Kanye
Starting point is 01:05:16 I was like oh my god is that Kanye like was he around back then I guess he was it must have been pretty new no he was yeah he was pretty old I think whatever it is yeah whatever the answer is but so you're also your bandmates on that which you've worked with a lot Paul Rudd
Starting point is 01:05:35 yeah who's awesome obviously Steve Correll Karell is so funny. Krell got a great funny part. Yeah, it was a great group. Kekner. And McKay, who we'd met at S&L. And so it was a...
Starting point is 01:05:51 You guys just really knew what you were doing. We just felt like we were playing with the house's money. And, you know, they had... DreamWorks had said no to it initially. And then later came back. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. They had a bunch of people had passed on it.
Starting point is 01:06:08 I think we had 10 or 15 different financiers or studios pass on it in one day. It was a great. It was a great day. That's a horrible. It was McKay and I calling. Did you hear about this one? Yeah, that's a pass.
Starting point is 01:06:22 But you go excitedly pitch it to everyone and then you just hear, pass, pass, pass, pass. You just hear, the call should be coming in. Pass, pass, pass, pass. Oh, my God, that's sickening. It almost doesn't ever work after that. If one passes, it gets like a stink to it. Like the other one's here. And they go, oh, something's bad about it?
Starting point is 01:06:38 Oh, we don't want to either. So you do that. Is it what happened, Elf came out or something? And they go, oh, well, we'll risk it now? No, it was old school. Old school, oh. Came out and they thought, oh, wait, we have this other script with him. We should do something with him.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Now we like it. Hey, that made money. Let's do a chart. We take it back. We take it back. We like the thing about the newscasters. That thing. But we were trying, they just couldn't wrap their heads around it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 That would be funny. and I was trying to say it's it's kind of what Austin Powers will be to the spy genre you know it's like but anyway so when we finally got to make it
Starting point is 01:07:15 it was we were like let's just hurry let's just shoot what because they may shut us down at any point movies do the best feel like that's and then it was
Starting point is 01:07:25 one of those where I'm guessing you know the last couple takes do whatever you want just keep doing shit just act stupider and stupider and then someone's got to pick the one
Starting point is 01:07:36 one that you live with forever, but then you go, God, there was five other ones that were just as ridiculous. Did you ride that way, I mean, because were you on 35 millimeter film in the 90s, and then you get on the Anchorman set or whatever, and you got digital for the first time, or no? When did digital come in? Not until Anchorman, too, yeah. Oh, because then you could improvise for 20 minutes. But we would do it anyway and just run out of, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Because it's expensive, but you just, yeah. Okay. And, uh, but yeah, we would just, we would just go until we heard that film run out and, and go to the line producer and just say, you got to, you know, can you give us cover here? We just need more film stock. I don't know what else to say. Yeah. And luckily they, they, they, they, the studios usually once you got going, they were, they were okay. Or they see the dailies. They know something's happening. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And Talladega Nights is another monster. So that one. no questions just when did you get the applause yeah no and um blades and and riley was that one of the first with riley or he was also when i saw no so john john did uh the table read for anchorman and we really wanted him to be in it and he was doing he had to go do gangs of new york or something you know some some bullshit scorsesey thing and uh yeah and uh yeah i'm out here priest so but you know it's good you guys
Starting point is 01:09:04 guys want up in that oh and stepbrothers so you guys round up in those and uh yeah so these are consistent successful comedies yeah very very hard to do yeah yeah it's been uh big hits it's been good which is why it's just fun to use your guys podcast to announce my retirement yeah and uh yeah so should we be honored do you feel like you're hogging all the good movies or something Give us someone else a chance. Yeah, I want to, I want to do, we should do a remake of, I've already forgotten it. The farty blood guy character. Warning shart.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Warning shart. Yeah. Your joke. I didn't, yeah. Warning shart? Yeah. Let's do a shot for shot remake of warning shot. We could put a little more money, get a director.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Get that same effects guy. Yeah, the effects guy. That guy's still around. You ever have the sound guy getting your face? Hey man, we're just going to... Why are you up here? I'm like, sir, sir, I got it. They're like, it's going to go right down your pants.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Do you a lot of problems. Go up your funnel and I'm like, where does the need to go? You want a waist? Do you want an ankle? What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? Can I tape this to your chest?
Starting point is 01:10:23 What do you like? Can I tape this to your chest? Is that all right? Do you want it up the Bhole? Do you mind hold? Do you mind holding? Better sound up there. Do you want to put it in your beard, bury it in your beard?
Starting point is 01:10:36 Do you mind swallowing this microphone? It would help production. I want to get the sound of your digestive juices. Can you learn how to use this boom mic? Take it home with you on the weekend. Can you hold it just out of frame into your own frame? Yeah. It's a good arm exercise.
Starting point is 01:10:55 It would help. Yeah. I used to feel sorry for those guys with the 40-foot boom. Oh. For like 20. On a long take. and I'm like, I got another funny idea and they're like, motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Yeah, keep it rolling. This guy's triseption. And they'll cut and the guy's like, lays down in convulsions. Yeah, yeah. We got it easy. God damn. I have a question about.
Starting point is 01:11:22 I know, but don't you, don't you feel you'd be fired from every single job on a movie set except for the ones that we get to do? Right? Like a real movie? That's what I feel like. Well, I mean, it seems like you were all most of the time working with like-minded spirits.
Starting point is 01:11:40 No, no, I mean, as an actor, all the other jobs are so much harder than just... Oh, yeah. Totally. Goofing around. Right. Yeah. I would rather just goof around and have someone shoot it than... I could never do a real job.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Is I don't... No. Wait. I didn't know. Doesn't my question make sense? Yeah. No, I'm just saying... Between, like, camera, direct.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I didn't know. All these other jobs. To be an actor, it's like, that's the easiest one. Oh, that's why they all hate us. Because they go, look at you, and they go, look at you coming in here, tra-l-la, oh, do you have to memorize three lines? Yeah. And they're like, I'm like, give me a minute.
Starting point is 01:12:19 They're like, he's coming. You know, it's all that stuff. And they're all waiting, and then you walk out. Can I get a quick spritz of final net? All right, ready. Final net. That goes with. Isn't that airspray?
Starting point is 01:12:33 It's my mommy's dad. Is that one of your guys' sponsors? FinalNet? Yeah. We have... Hey, our sponsors are here, I think. Show of hands. Now, when you...
Starting point is 01:12:44 I'm going to jump around here. I'm going to jump around here. You're going to jump around? Rapid fire. In any... Norm was in Jeopardy with you a lot. Yeah. Any funny Norm stories or anything about Norm?
Starting point is 01:12:56 Yeah, my God. Because... That was... Jeopardy, again, one of the big sketches. is that one of those big sketches everyone remembers. Yeah. Always funny. Darrell was funny and Norm was great.
Starting point is 01:13:08 Yeah. The best Norm story was, I think it's the one where he's wearing, he comes back, he's wearing a big foam cowboy hat. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, that's funny, huh? Look, wearing a cowboy hat.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And anyway, there's some beat where I, where I have to be super exasperated with him, and I yell at him, and we get out of that. the sketch and norm comes running after he's like hey well everything okay i go yeah why he's like you you seem kind of mad at me out there like no norm i'm i'm act we've done it this is like the fourth time we've done the sketch no but that time it just seemed like you're really we're mad i'm for some reason i said no we're good that's very norm right there buddy that's his sense of humor
Starting point is 01:13:58 I ain't seen kind of mad there for a moment, right? But he was not, I don't think he was doing a bill. He might have been serious that you were screaming. He also was very sensitive in that way too. He was very shaken. Yeah. And then. Because you can commit hard and you probably scared him.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Another, another great norm story has nothing to do with Quebec. Was, and Catan told me about it. They were on a flight together. Back L.A. to New York. Chris had taken off his shoes. and he can't find his shoes. They're about to land. Can't find his shoes.
Starting point is 01:14:35 He's going to the flight attendant. Have you seen my shoes? I took him off. He's like, I don't know. He's like, Norm, come on. You took my shoe? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I didn't take your shoes. Why would I take your shoes? It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I've never taken. He's like, come on, give me back my shoes. I know you took them. I know. Norm's like, I don't know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Catan has to walk through JFK. with no shoes with no shoes just in his socks an entire season goes by and then Catan and Norm are jousting back and forth about something
Starting point is 01:15:14 and then Norm finally goes oh yeah and one other thing I did take your shoes that flight in November flight November I took him I threw him in the trash can just so you know
Starting point is 01:15:28 Yeah, because I saw his shoes there, right? I just kind of grabbed the shoes. So, yeah, you were right. He used to give Kitan so much shit. Oh, my God, yeah. He was tough. Okay, let's see if we have anything else. Well, before we let you go.
Starting point is 01:15:45 Oh, and the other thing I was thinking about today, Downey used to give me the great, I loved being. Jim Downy, sorry, Jim Downy, legendary writer who came up with Strategory. Oh, he did. I had the 18 too writing for me with Al Franken and Jim Downey. But Downey, I loved being in Downey sketches for a number of different reasons, but the best was between dress and air, and you'd do it every single time,
Starting point is 01:16:14 and I would laugh hard every single time. He'd go, great job. Take it down about a thousand percent. And then I would just, yeah, San, I'd be like, uh-huh, yeah, okay. And he's like, I don't know what happened. You must have gotten into your big juice or something. But he would literally tell me to take it down a thousand percent. Worst advice, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Did you? Made me laugh every single time. And he would never say he's joking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I remember one time I did a joke on Hollywood Minute about, with jokes, you know, they had some had a little more of a, some were clever, some had a little mean streak. But I did a Jim Carrey one.
Starting point is 01:16:55 The funniest part is I liked 99% of the people. Of course. And Jim Carrey, I was just trying to get a foot in the door at S&L and whatever it took, but Jim was doing these, you know, the movies that I loved, but I said, and they would always prod me to go farther. Right. Because it was like through them, I dare you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:13 I said, oh, Jim's Carrie after this, one of his movies, just rushed to the hospital after an overdose of overacting pills with Play It Too Big Juice. And the crowd just stared at me. and it was too soon don't mess with our fucking guy Jim Carrey and I was like no I love you know anyway that was cut after dress
Starting point is 01:17:36 but uh but dress hers was a good but that was those guys and they would write me the roughest Hollywood minute jokes like the rewrite table they go
Starting point is 01:17:45 Jim would be like oh you would never well no you're too much of a pussy and I go no I'm not what and then he'd tell me I go yeah I'm too much of a pussy
Starting point is 01:17:55 I'm not saying And then he goes, of course, because you're a pussy. And I go, why? But it was all whatever he wanted to say and get the anger out and get to me. Well, then they hide behind the whole. I know. That's why it's so funny. They get to say whatever they want, but I would have to sort of temper it.
Starting point is 01:18:11 But always funny. I mean, they're always just, they're just fucking wrong. Wait, one last Norm McDonald's story. Yeah. Sorry. Which is a made-up marketing word. There's no word in the Italian language. I thought that was genuine in time.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Yeah. And one day we're sitting around in the writer's room having lunch, and we're doing a bit where I'm like, hey, guys, this lunch is pretty good. Abondonanza, right? And everyone goes, yeah, abondanza. And Norm's sitting there like, Norm, come on, just say it. Say Abondon. He's like, no, I'm not going to say it.
Starting point is 01:18:55 I'm like, come on, Norm. just say it. Abondonza. I won't do it. I'm not going to say it. We get like 15 of us like, come on, Norm. It'd be rude now. We've all said abondonza. You should just say abondonanza. No, I don't want to say it.
Starting point is 01:19:10 I'm not going to say it. I won't say. You never would say it. Anyway, that's the end of the story. Yeah. All right. Well, I think we were going to have a few people to ask a question.
Starting point is 01:19:26 A penny saved is a penny earn They say, right? That's like a 100% return. You can't get that anywhere. Is that what he'd say? I was just talking on the phone with Norm, you know? You know, you should bury some money, right? Because then later on, your relatives will dig it up
Starting point is 01:19:41 and then have money, right? He just had the driest, funniest, funniest five. I didn't have a TV the first year and I was on the show because I just didn't buy one because I thought I'm never going to be in my apartment. So I'd go and watch the NBC sports feed. on like a Sunday. Norm, of course, is in there.
Starting point is 01:20:01 And Norm enjoyed gambling on sports. Sure. And we were watching some game, and I'm like, ooh, got to watch out. You know, University of Cincinnati, they're pretty good in the mud. He's like, really? And I go, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I think they're like 750 winning percent. and rainy games. Ah, I didn't know that, yeah, okay. Logs it away. I think we're doing a bit. Right, right, right. It's no way. How do I know that stuff?
Starting point is 01:20:37 Yeah. Week later, Norman's like, you cost me 35 grand. I'm like doing, what do you mean? Cincinnati, University of Cincinnati in the month. Like, what? You said they were really good, and rainy, rainy, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:20:57 you bet on, I was joking. And you bet that much? Yeah. Yeah. Why are you telling me that amount, too? That's like when Norm asked Lovitz for, give me $200 so they're playing a casino. Oh, that's funny.
Starting point is 01:21:12 You know, he's like, John's like, okay. So the next day, John, huh? Lend, land. And he goes, yeah, yeah. And then Lovitz like, can I get my money back? And he goes, no, no, no, I lost that. I lost all of it.
Starting point is 01:21:25 He goes, why are you, man? I lost $8,000. Yeah, he goes, you only lost $200. You only lost $200. We love Norm. There was only one norm. It was amazing. A comedy genius.
Starting point is 01:21:38 So Will Ferrell. Dana, I think they want to ask a few questions in the audience. Yeah, yeah. Then we'll get Will to his limo. I was just going to butter up, Will. I was going to say to Will, because he loved sports. Like if I was going to do a sports team of S&L stars, you know, I put you at the power forward.
Starting point is 01:21:58 Oh, okay. Maybe an Aykroyder, Phil, at the center. Yeah. Maybe Bill Hader. After that, I never try to pick SNL people because then I go, fuck Adam Sandberg. I miss him. But I would, you.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Lauren said that about you. No. He's a top two at least. Top two. Well, is he possibly one? I'm not going to say, but he's a top two. Top three. Top three.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Where in that three? I don't know. We don't know. I feel. I feel like the general consensus is me, Dana, Will. In the history of S&L. I think it's Spade. And sometimes it mixes up.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Dana, Will. Will, Dana, me. Yeah. Yeah. But we're up there, man. It's lonely, but we're up there. No, yeah. Now, I was sort of an intern there for six years.
Starting point is 01:22:47 David Spade plays the little engine that could. But who got an incredible career? Who did World Missy? 800 million minutes. Yeah. 800 million minutes. That's how it goes now. Six billion minutes.
Starting point is 01:22:59 That's a hit. That feels good. I don't know. It sounds like a lot of minutes. Yeah, six billion. It's the biggest film in chili. Oh, yeah. They love you in Uruguay, kid.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I can't step foot in Bulgaria. Lower Mongolia. Go out there. We're going to ask, Will, we'll get four questions in the audience, and then, Will, you don't even have to answer if you don't want. Just make them feel stupid. All right, does anyone have a question And then he'll run out there
Starting point is 01:23:32 And then oh, we got one over there Let me see Oh, too late He was over there Oh no, I'm over here Hello Do you guys have a favorite sketch That literally just never made it even past pitch
Starting point is 01:23:46 Like not something that got cut for time Or cut from rehearsal But you pitched it and you thought it was great And it just did not go over I had a sketch that that tops my list I had written a sketch about a guy who looks exactly
Starting point is 01:24:04 like Gabe Kaplan from Welcome Back Cotter and Colt, he's a super and he works in an insurance he works, the insurance company works for, he knows that Gabe Kaplan is a client and it's the day that Gabe Kaplan
Starting point is 01:24:22 came in to renew his insurance coverage, but no one told him. No one told my character that Gabe Kaplan was there. And I was... How did this not get on? Are you sure this did get him? It got on.
Starting point is 01:24:38 No, it got on a dress. But it was so silent. At one point, there's the smallest laugh in the world. Like, kind of in the upper deck there, you just hear, he-he. But it died so hard. So that was But it worked great at the table
Starting point is 01:24:57 I have one quickie which was a guy I'm sorry buddy He was obsessed with Kurt Cobain After his death And I worked at Baskin Robbins And I wouldn't wash my hair And Bob Odenkirk and I wrote it And it was
Starting point is 01:25:10 Kurt Every time I was trying to name ice creams after him And then when people come in They go My manager goes, you got to wash here I go no Kurt He Kurt and dirt You can't wash him away
Starting point is 01:25:21 and then again, crickets. But that was Crickets at Readthrough with Odenkirk, who's a great writer. And it was a fully formed sketch and it just didn't work. Season two, we're doing a press conference and they said, do you have any new catchphrases to me? So I just said, my new catchphrases,
Starting point is 01:25:39 I got to, got to, got to go. So I wrote a sketch called Funny Little Poopie Head. And I was Mr. Funny Little Poopie Head. Jan Hooks was misfit And it was really If it had gotten on I would have enjoyed it
Starting point is 01:25:55 But it was just to hear Lorne say funny little poopie head So there was so much Stage direction And Lorne Michaels had to say that Funny little poopie head walks into the room Shad Funny little poopie head walks across the room
Starting point is 01:26:08 That kind of And then he goes I got to got to go And then Jan Hooks' hook was And I'm gonna go on with him Never made it to air Only at the Largo Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:20 All right. Next one, Greg. Anybody? They're slow to the... Oh, Greg. Yeah. Hey, you did a college game day in 2010 with Lee Corso. What was he like?
Starting point is 01:26:36 Is that for me? I don't think I did. I don't remember I'm being in it, so... Was that you? Oh. It was a film called college game day? Would that have been outside the Coliseum? Oh, before the SC Oregon game, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:58 Easy Rain, man. Are you wearing an N95? Yeah. Or in Corso or so? Yeah. Yeah, definitely outside the Coliseum. Yeah. Yeah, course, I'm an excellent driver.
Starting point is 01:27:12 I don't remember having much interaction with Lee Corp. I'm sure he was nothing but lovely. What about Lee Van Cleef? Did you ever do anything with Lee Majors? All right. Lee Van Cleef and I. Can we just ask this guy? This young man you've had your hand up for so long.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Go ahead. I think for the podcast. Thank you. Hi. Will, Dana, you guys were part of a video where you played the Bush's. Oh, all the presidents. For all the presidents for Ron Howard.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Do you guys have any stories about that? And David, will there be? be a sequel to that movie. Don't make up a question for me. You love these two. He's huge and chilly. And David, are you taking
Starting point is 01:28:01 an Uber home? First of all, that was with funnier die, four funnier die or die. That was for funnier or die about passing legislation. Yeah, some legislation. And I remember we just did our characters one at a time. We had all, everyone who'd played a president
Starting point is 01:28:17 on SNL. Yeah. We even had Dan Aykroyd do Bob Dole I think I know he was there Bob Dole Acrooy or was it Norroid Acroid did Jimmy Oh Jimmy Carter Oh yeah probably Jimicada
Starting point is 01:28:30 Oh did you Nixon Oh God he did a lot Yeah I'll just do all right Wind me up Chevy did Ford Chevy did Ford Fred did Obama Yes
Starting point is 01:28:44 Wow Oh wow Do you carry you wrong way I just remember when I was doing something and you said liked it afterwards i don't i was just ad living as george bush senior and the phrase came out he went full fecal i don't remember what it meant but i remember he came out after him like the full fecal part you just remember things and full fecal full fecal got a dead fecalcation yeah i'm
Starting point is 01:29:14 getting more relaxed all the time i know yeah we're finally relaxed we got one more question all right Um, hey, this is a pro well. Um, whenever you are on S&L, you would often go on Conan as different characters. You would never come on as yourself. Um, was Conan aware of this? Cause I feel like he was not in on the bit and he was often surprised when you would do this. No, he was just very good at acting and playing along because they, that, I mean, did you ever try to surprise them with anything?
Starting point is 01:29:49 But then you would add live and stuff. It might have been because Conan and that whole stuff, they were so into, please do whatever you want. Yeah, yeah. That was like the greatest show to go on that early Conan because they were just
Starting point is 01:30:05 embrace any sort of bit. It was like, I have an idea where I want to get in a drum off with a kid drummer and he's going to be much better than I am and then I'm going to chase him out of the state
Starting point is 01:30:21 you know and they're like yep let's do it okay I have another bit where I want can you set up a pull-up bar and I want to do I want to do a setup where I'm going to do as many pull-ups as I can do and I'll give $10,000 to charity
Starting point is 01:30:38 and I can't even get one pull-up you know for every pull-up Yeah, Airpool, I'll give, and I just struggle. Like 15 seconds. You're like, I did 30 yesterday, what's wrong? I can't get one. Oh, well, too bad March of Dimes, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:00 But they would go for everything and... It seems like you always had a gear where a lot of your stuff, if the sound broke, I call it funny with the sound off, it would still work, you know? Just because, like the cowbell guy. Just the way you were dancing around. Just all that. Walking was good in that too, right?
Starting point is 01:31:20 Oh, my God. Yeah. Do people know, is this true that you tried it out with different hosts and it never got on until walking came around? I tried it. Well, it's funny. It was the season before was Norm's last season, because you guys were talking about it with Downey, the whole Norm getting fired. And then strangely enough, he comes back the next year to host. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Which was bizarre. Yeah. Yeah. But I tried it at the table with Norm as the record producer. Yeah. And it worked fine, but it just didn't get it picked. And then I brought it back later going, oh, no, I'm going to rewrite this for walking. It's hard to do it twice.
Starting point is 01:31:58 It's hard. Yeah. I was there that night. I was doing a guest spot of something. Oh, okay. And I remember that destroying and. Yeah, and we were way over. And Will, where were you?
Starting point is 01:32:09 I was about to say you weren't dead center. No, it was way in the corner. The corner. Fuck. People don't know. That's the worst. Do you remember, what was the audience can see? I mean, how did that come out?
Starting point is 01:32:17 Just suddenly, because it's such a bizarre incredibly inexplicable idea. That's why it's just as funny now. You could watch it 20 years later. You look funny. It's a weird song. Yeah, listening to Blue Oster Cold on the radio. Yeah, it was just that cowboy.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Hearing that faint cowboy going, does that guy have any friends? You know? Was that the only song you ever got to play Calball on? Yeah. like, I'm going to write that as a sketch. It's nothing you can pitch. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:48 And so I write it and I rewrote it for, for walking. And I was just like, oh, I know that if Christopher Walken says, I have a fever. Yeah. And the only prescription is more cowbell. Only he can make, get a laugh off of that. You can't lose because the stiffer he does it, the more he's married to the cue cards. I have a fever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:09 And they all, and you're like, you're like phonetically almost getting through it. And it's so fucking funny. And I remember, is Kevin Pollock here? Could you do Christopher Walken? I think he, is he here? Oh, is he here? No, Kevin Pollard. So this is the world's greatest Christopher Walker impression.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Oh, shit. I have a fever. Prescription is more cowbell. Kevin Paul. You. Kevin Pollack. Kevin Pollock happened to be here. But you would say to Walkin, you go, hey, Chris, you're just killing it.
Starting point is 01:33:53 You're so funny and everything. It'd be like, we should have Kevin to it. Really, because I have, I have no idea. I just say the lines. He doesn't even get the sketch. And I was like, well, you're doing great. If you say something. so.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Okay. Like I got in trouble for a fever for cowbell. I'm just doing Kevin now, but yeah, there was something magic about that thing. Anyway, that was something special. I like those ones that live on forever. Those are great. Yeah. So Will Farrell,
Starting point is 01:34:33 you are one of the all-time. You're still going strong. I don't know what you're doing next, but I was going to ask you, what's the longest break you've had in the last 24? years from doing show business it seems like you've been did you have six months off at one time oh sure so you take breaks and what do you do
Starting point is 01:34:50 during your breaks you ran three marathons long time ago um that was just a passion yeah just wanted to run I retired in 03 and uh Lauren wouldn't take you back
Starting point is 01:35:04 right are your kids all taller than me yet oh they're my 13 year my 13 year will dominate yeah yeah I know kids are 11 when they're duller than me. I'm like, oh, you just hang out, right? I love Uber driver for my kid, you know, I have a sophomore in high school,
Starting point is 01:35:22 go to basketball games. I just love it. Yeah. 10, 11, 12, and you're driving them to school. And I play a day in the live for them. Right. You know, and they play me hip-hop and stuff. It's a fair exchange.
Starting point is 01:35:33 But there's a lot of fun and cool bonding. Because I was noticing my kids weren't talking to me in the car at a given age when I'm driving them to school. And then I would put, on AM news radio and a man was killed today and shot blood was flying and they're like dead what was that what's going on so that really would open them up but you must have had experiences like that maybe it was but truly you must have made him fans and we we've made a concerted effort to just take the whole summer off every no matter what I'm working on so we go uh I did that too
Starting point is 01:36:07 we go to Sweden of all places every summer so we have my wife Swedish we have a place out there the boys all speak Swedish they hang out with their cousins that's too cool so they're just bonded with Sweden yeah that's hip yeah isn't most of life just I feel like even really busy people most of life is hanging out and talking absolutely isn't that what we do most of time I mean we're working stuff but we just got and what trying to watch something on TV with your wife I mean that's you watch live streaming shows yeah do you watch uh all creatures great and small if you want Liquid Xanax, this is this brilliant show that's
Starting point is 01:36:43 just so 194. I thought the Beatles documentary was that, too, in a way. Oh my God. We talked about that stuff like that. Get back. Yeah. Unreal. You know, it's nice you to say that. You know, I do'm a bit older now. You know, we appreciate.
Starting point is 01:36:58 We appreciate that you like it. You know. But we were just lads plonkin. I don't know. I don't know who that is. Is that Billy Preston? Billy Heidel Did you meet McCartney, Will, when you're on SNL? Do what?
Starting point is 01:37:14 Did you see McCartney? Was he on when you're on? I think he was 93, right? He was on, I know, when I was there with... He must have been. I know Mick Jagger. Oh. Jimmy did that Mick Jagger.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Oh, I came in Lawrence's office. This happens you at Saturday Night Live once. Lauren's office in 8-H just during the... And I just walked in and no one told me and then just Mick Jagger's just sitting there. with a little sweater and corduroy pants on and combed hair, you know. Lorne likes to blindside you with a big star. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:44 He likes to collect China in different coffee cups. Tell them about your stamp collection, Mitch. He's very, what you would call aerial dite. The dinner where Lauren tried to convince me to stay longer. Yeah. Who was there? He kept saying, Mick may stop by. I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 01:38:03 That's what I tell people, but he never stops by. All right. And we keep talking. And he's like, so Mick, you know, he could, because they produced some movie together. Right. And I'm like, yeah, fine, okay. And then all of a sudden, Lauren's eyes go, why? He's here.
Starting point is 01:38:19 He's here, okay. You, you sit there and I'll, no, no, no, no, no, I'll sit here, I'll sit like this. And you sit over there. No, no, no, no, you sit. Hi, Mick. Hello, hi, yes. And I say, he wants your seat, move. Move, move.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Move. You'd be an idiot. Did you always have to guess when he said Paul? Because there were two Pauls, Paul Simon, Paul McCartney. Paul's coming over. Which one? And so, that'd be McCarty. I sat there awkwardly for 45 more minutes.
Starting point is 01:38:50 Waiting? No, Mick showed up. And I didn't know what to, once again, I didn't know what to say. Yeah. And then the next day at rehearsal, Lauren was like, wasn't that the greatest dinner? And I think he was just excited that he said a celebrity was going to show up and they actually showed up. What was your most start-struck moment?
Starting point is 01:39:09 You know, for me, like, meeting Charleston was a big deal. You know, like, whoa. You know, because you meet these hosts, and they're sitting down there, and then they go, would you like to go say hello to Robert Mitchum? Sure. You know, it's like, you're walking down the hall. She would come in. Get in there.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Sharon Stone. No one's in there. I'm like, okay. And then you go in there. She's alone. She needs help. She's reading a magazine. She's like, what?
Starting point is 01:39:29 And I'm like, I'm supposed to, I don't know. You know what I mean? You know, Marcy. Did you accept me with George W? They called me, he was in the studio because they were going to tape one of those election specials and they had Gore do his part. Yes. Clear the studio. Then they bring W in there.
Starting point is 01:39:47 They call me at home. They're like, get down here. W is a huge fan. He wants to meet you. And I just started doing the impression. And I was like, okay, okay. I go down to 8.H. There's 100 reporters, everything.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Yeah. And it was like Ayala and Marcy. You're like, go, go up there. Just go and talk to him. And I'm like, even the Q car guy's going, get up there. Wally. Hi, I'm Will.
Starting point is 01:40:14 I could tell he has no idea that I'm the guy who plays him. Because you hadn't done it during the debates. Exactly. Okay. So it was fledgling. It was fledgling. And then he doesn't know me from Abby. He could care less.
Starting point is 01:40:28 And you got bamboozled. We both just did this to each other. He did Roxbury. How did you? Yeah, we did Rocksbury. Did you awkwardly say Abu Danzas? I go, uh, thank, thanks so much for doing this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:41 This is, uh, you got a lot of, is this a hectic work week for you? It's like, yeah, it's a busy week. Seems like a lot. But you could tell he was stressed to be there. It was just like, and Al Gore was there too. And Al Gore was there. Yeah. And commanding the room.
Starting point is 01:41:04 Oh, yeah. He seemed. We're going to put it in a log box. He was like totally presidential. And W was. But then when they debated it flipped. Yeah. Well, W.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Yeah, well, whatever. How did you, like, did you have to study tapes? So you just kind of got it just by watching him? Watching. Daryl Hammond helped me a little bit. Tightening the neck, right? That and squinting a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Yeah. Yeah. But you could, you did kind of look like him when you got the whole. gear on. But I think it got better over time, but at first it was not. Same with me. I didn't have Bush senior at all. Only Rossboro was quick because it was such a cartoon right away.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Can I finish one time? Uh-huh. Can I finish one time? Can I finish one time? That's all it needed. Just that. It's basically James Brown. Can I do it on the one?
Starting point is 01:42:02 Great political. Can I do it on the one? Yeah. Get on up like a sex machine. Sorry. Just stick. Phil Harmon playing Admiral What's his face? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Oh, that guy? Which one? No. Stockdale. Is that it? Stockdale. And he couldn't hear out of one to hear that? Perrault was driving him.
Starting point is 01:42:23 You guys did the driving stuff. Yeah, and then, yeah, why don't you take a walk over there? And then he's just going, hey. Yeah, who am I? Where am I? Where am I? Where am I? He was doing Scott Dale who was confused.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Politics is fun. All right. All right. We got to let him. We'll go. We should let him. We do. We do?
Starting point is 01:42:41 We want to go on. What do we do? All right. Can we do three questions? Favorite toy as a kid. Don't think too hard. Probably Legos. Legos?
Starting point is 01:42:52 Yeah. Wrong. His was stretch armstrong. Or micranots. Did you have a bicycle that you really liked? Yeah. Schwinn. Schwin.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Stingeringer. Stingray What was the TV show or movie Why is that funny? Because I think he said And he said, yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, yeah, that one. Well, the Schwinn was famous.
Starting point is 01:43:15 I think there was only one bike. I had a Sears front loader. My parents read out of money. Yeah. So you're a little kid. You're like 8, 10, 11, and there's a TV show or a cartoon or a movie
Starting point is 01:43:28 that just made you love show business or just blew your mind. I'll give you an example. Ben Stiller said it was the Poseidon Adventure. That made him want to be a filmmaker. That was a cool movie. Gene Hackman. Well, I always love Shelley Winters.
Starting point is 01:43:44 She sure had a figure. Yeah, I would say Poseidon Adventure, too. Gene Hackman is unbelievable. It's up there. That's how we'll live. Up there. One inch thinner. Tried, Kevin.
Starting point is 01:44:03 I'll remember the real answer driving home after this but the one thing I saw Jason the Argonauts it could be you know I saw those and Wild Wild West was kind of my age group Land of Lost I loved
Starting point is 01:44:17 but that didn't make me want to go into show this Little House on the Prairie Can you want to go into No no What made you want to go Well I loved We're not leaving
Starting point is 01:44:28 We're God No this is we went past It's too hard The pressure is building. It's a nine parter. Okay, these are the shows I loved. I loved Happy Days or Burn and Shirley. That block on Tuesday nights.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Yeah, Tuesday night. By the way. And then I loved Saturday night was Fantas Island Love Boat. Shit. Me too. See, those are so relaxing. We need shows like that. Just.
Starting point is 01:44:54 But I wanted to live on the love boat. I wanted to be. Yeah, because it was calm and fun. Oh, it was calm. Fun gas every week. and Julie that coked up cruise director yep she was great yeah
Starting point is 01:45:08 I watched that same block Laverna Shirley happy days then Laverna Shirley Fonzie jumped literally jumped the shark I remember watching it I made my mom watch it with us I was like watch Isn't funny to think that Henry Winkler he was the coolest guy in America
Starting point is 01:45:21 at that point in time Couldn't believe it it was so cool yeah And the toughest guy I knew people thought he could beat up anyone The Fons could beat up anybody He never really got in a fight to be honest No he just he was all He'd snap his fingers and they'd run or something
Starting point is 01:45:32 I don't want to date myself, but mine was Danny Kay. What? He never could say he was sorry, right? Fonds. Fonds. Yeah, yeah, I thought he couldn't say, yeah, he couldn't say something. Maybe I love you. Maybe sorry. Let's call Hank Winkler. I don't know. He's great and Barry.
Starting point is 01:45:50 You know what? Let's look at a clip. Hey, what are you going to look at the old man. He almost got it. Biff it up. He just got a little touch. A bunch of bifida. I did. Spinal bifida. That's what we're going to name this episode.
Starting point is 01:46:07 That's going to be in the... It's like not funny. I don't know why we keep saying. Hey, let me take it down as Danny Miller. I can't Christ sakes we heard from the spud man with the spinal bifida. Raspberrys in the sound effect guy's face. Farrell laid down. The feral cat brought it heavy today.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Yeah, you did bring it, man. You're funny as shit. My Lincoln Town Car is waiting for me. I always request a Lincoln Town, a late model Lincoln Town car. Did you buy something when you first got a million dollars? You buy a crazy car or anything? I bought a...
Starting point is 01:46:46 Something from the Elvis store. I was like, sorry, I don't want to be the joke of the thing. It's all good fun, Davey. I bought one of Elvis's guns. I looked at the Providence. Then it realized Spaded was the previous owner. By the way, when he worked there, you were very polite. You're very nice.
Starting point is 01:47:09 I don't think you said you were in comedy at all. I don't think you told me that. In fact, I still worked. I got hired at S&L, but they don't pay you until you show up. I had bills to pay. I was still answering the phones for like a month and a half. Did you have it transferred to your office? Answering the phones at where?
Starting point is 01:47:27 Here in L.A. Oh, okay. At the auction house. And my coworkers were like, didn't you get it? it on Saturday Night Live? I was like, yeah, but I don't leave until August, so I'm here.
Starting point is 01:47:40 And they don't pay you anything. I read, it said you were the highest paid cast member ever. I don't think so. They said it was, but what was your starting salary? Like when you first got on, do you remember?
Starting point is 01:47:55 Because there's a per show. It was a per show. Yeah. I'm guessing 6,000. It was something like that. It was 55 or 6? 4,500 times 20,
Starting point is 01:48:09 90 grand, keep 30, broke even. Easily. Star Saturday Night Live. 900. I mean, 900 a week to write. 1,500 bump if I got on update or something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:22 But the male prostitution paid the bills. Yeah. I ran a glory hole on 18. We don't want to go. all that specific. It was just you were a friendly guy. I never got that reference because they'd be, if your sketch ever scored,
Starting point is 01:48:39 they'd be like, oh, that was a real glory hole. And we're like, what does that mean? But, yeah, never mind. Aspade. All right, we're going to take a break and come back with our guest today. Will Finius. Second half will be better.
Starting point is 01:48:54 Yeah, second half of the show. Let's give everyone a five. Take five. See who's take five. I'm going to talk with a Swedish accent. The wrist. Is this offensive to this accent? That is really authentic.
Starting point is 01:49:06 I'm a lot of Norwegian. We don't like the sweets. I know. That's a bad rivalry. Well, yeah. Is the Swedish chef get a lot of Poon Tang in Sweden? Be honest.
Starting point is 01:49:20 The Muppet character? Yeah. Who else? Hernd is Shurnda. Skernda. You watch the Muppet. You know the human hands. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:34 That guy was talented. I knew that when I watched. That guy was talented. He could cook and he had a presence. That made you want to be in show business. That's the thing. God, that's your answer. We were trying to help you.
Starting point is 01:49:45 Sesame Street. Yeah. All right. Good Lord. They're turning the lights up. Okay. Okay. You guys, thank you.
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