Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - REACTION - SNL’s Big Cast Shake-Up

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

Dana and David break down the Saturday Night Live cast shake-up, spotlighting new additions Tommy Brennan, Jeremy Culhane, Kam Patterson, and Veronika Slowikowska. They also share their thoughts on ca...st members being let go and Please Don't Destroy being destroyed. Along the way they revisit their own SNL days, swap behind-the-scenes stories, and reveal what it really takes to land a spot on the show. But first, David relives his performance in Alaska while Dana recalls a near-death bus ride to Hearst Castle and calls to Comcast in his perfect Cary Grant voice. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:11 Welcome to an episode. Thank you. I'm happy to be your guest. I got a great story for you right off the bat. Okay, but first, let's just say there's a lot of stuff going on at our our alma mater. Old S&L. A lot of stuff,
Starting point is 00:02:29 a lot of cast changes going, some personal things out there, people we know, what's going on. So we're going to go over that comprehensively. Peace by piece. Peace by piece. And it's going to be a barn burner.
Starting point is 00:02:44 But first we're going to do a little catch up because I haven't seen him in eight hours. We had breakfast. The S&L stuff, lots of rumor, lots of innuendo. intrigue palace intrigue who comes who goes why why what where what do we do when the world ash why exactly you know that so uh jfk during the cuban senior crisis yeah no could have been bobby kennedy
Starting point is 00:03:12 senior during the cuban missile crisis but i was it bobby kennedy that said that i believe i believe what do we do when the world ash why but it could have been jack anyway back to your week You'll never guess who killed Bobby Kennedy in the kitchen at the Roosevelt. No, I will never guess. See your hands or hand, isn't it? You're kidding, you're kidding. Is that his name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I wasn't even doing this joke. I was saying he was a bus boy there and then I was going to promote busboys. Oh, wow. That's a stretch. I know. I was really trying to link it together. God, my hair's getting long, dude. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I don't know what's going on. I would have happened with the tide walls. You got kind of a, you're turning into me. It's kind of fluffy. Well, I'll start this with this. This is a hat from my gig I just did. Okay. It's black, though.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And it's black. What does it say on it? I can't. There's Alaska. Hmm. Do you know where Alaska is? Nebraska is a corn husker. What's in Alaska?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Alaska are the blubbers. The blubbers. The blubbers. Wow, that sounds. That's their NFL team. I bought it hook lines in the blubbers. I had a gig up there. It's the Keystone State or something to do with mining.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Is it? Heather, see if Alaska's the Keystone State. I don't know what it's that, but it's something to do with. Heather jumps off TikTok quickly. Her TikTok is rocking. Okay, go ahead. So, Dana, I have a gig up. Pennsylvania is the.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Oh, Pennsylvania is the. Well, I was close. What's Alaska, though? No, another question. Alaska is just the, you know, at the Grizzly or something, or something to do with the, yeah, I could get on the tip of my brain. I think it's called the Bring a Coat State. Is it really that cold?
Starting point is 00:05:11 So why, I mean, while she works on this, why would anybody go to the trouble to play Alaska? Like, if I could beam to Alaska, I'd play it there tonight. Right. It's called fan interoper. interaction and the people matter to me. Are you, are you, I'm just going to say this because you can't say it. Are you gigantic in Alaska?
Starting point is 00:05:32 I mean, is that your, I will say. Are you Jane Gillis in Alaska? Yeah, they're appreciative when you come up there because, listen, the gig I did was a state fair. These are things as a comedian, you know, that watch for these early warning signs. State fair equates to kids. one problem with state fairs Alaska is the last frontier okay that makes sense
Starting point is 00:06:01 and it was true so state fairs I did one with Gary Shanling open forum RIP that one of the greats we did it in Arizona where I'm from and it was one of those things where it was one of the events
Starting point is 00:06:15 so it was come one come all everyone could trickle from the corn dog hut into there from Indian fry bread from the tilt a world They all go in. All this stuff. And so it was kids, all ages. And I was like, but it was probably 3,000 people.
Starting point is 00:06:30 I proceeded to bomb unsurprisingly. But Gary did pretty well, but he's pretty clean, I think. Remember, you got to clean it up a bit. Innuendo, but clean. Yeah. Yeah. So this is, you would have killed. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:48 And, but state fair, I thought. In that special. It was intriguing because it's a state fair. But then it says three in the afternoon I go on. Now, it stays light until about midnight. Right. And I didn't know it was outdoors. I didn't really think of that part.
Starting point is 00:07:04 So it's very challenging. I kind of liked the challenge of this is a lot. So when I get there about a week ahead, I put it on my weather on my apps. And it says where I'm performing is 70% chance of rain. I was like, oh, I forgot about rain. So, anyway, long story longer, I go, you have to go through Seattle, layover, bleh, not direct, huh?
Starting point is 00:07:32 And you know what I hate to say? An unnamed, this happens to all airline, I just want a TV to veg out, just kill time, right? They say, oh, this flight has TVs. I said, thank God, I get there, it hits me, there's no TVs, and I go, where's the TV? and they go, it's on your phone, silly. So they announced that they had TVs, but they meant it was because you were carrying a portable TV, i.e. your phone.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I think that's false advertising. I'm going to call bullshit on that. What's the name of the airline? Let's get sued or sue. It's also called being rat fucked. So I don't want to look and download 18 apps and then get on why. It's just too much. So it's like taking a date.
Starting point is 00:08:20 and you go to a drive-in theater and she goes, where's the screen? I go, it's on your phone, dip shit. You thought, why would you think it's there at the drive-in on the screen? Driving theater with a big screen? What era did you come from? When were you born?
Starting point is 00:08:34 If you want to hold it out like this. We go to a field and we look at our phone to hold them out. And we cuddle up and watch TikToks. Cuddle up. There's some marshmallows, maybe a thing, and you go home. Woo, woo, woo, woo. All right, hats coming off because people got to see the scary hair.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So that happened. I have a question for you. Also, they have, go ahead. Ambient sound. So when you're on there, outdoor, there's a thunderstorm. Because when I did one for a second, I heard a country western band kick in to the point where the whole amphitheater I was in outdoors could hear them playing. Yeah. So I'm doing my acting.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You know, my own day, my own day. And then the rodeo across the way, it was huge. I'm, Billy Nockno now is on this thousand pounds. So all this ambient noise, and I'm going, well, isn't that special? Nah, God, do it. You're trying to be louder. Well, I just, I just broke down the show and started singing with the band or pretending. But did you have ambient sound?
Starting point is 00:09:33 Was sound okay? Well, I had Bobby and Dan Levy with me, and we, you're like, that's incredible. We have two others. Well, because, and I have to do an hour, but they, when I, before I left, I said, hey, Alex, uh, manager, this feels like a clean show, right? that's a little harder so I got to go through everything and really he said no they said no restrictions I go are you sure because kids are at the so anyway we go there I go over to the petting zoo they have a little petting farm pet the goats and uh did you get a snow cone
Starting point is 00:10:07 now I got a reindeer dog and it started to back up on me about two hours later I go I think Christmas came early a corn dog is called a rain dog is that it's up is that's a corn reindeer dog. Oh. Because by the way, up there, they're like, you should have a bison burger, the reindeer skewers. I'm like, I don't know. I'm not here to experiment. I think you go on a, you know, kind of a state fair tour because obviously you took to it and you crushed.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You know, I wound up when Bobby went on. It was so sunny. We weren't worried about the rain. He had to wear sunglasses because the sun was setting. And Jim Gaffigan had did this gig and he said he had to wear sunglasses. And so I guess they understand it. And then when Dan went on, it was getting cloudy, so he was okay. When I went on, the first thing I said, I went up and then someone put on their poncho.
Starting point is 00:11:01 And I go, look at this guy, put on their poncho. It's not even raining. And they all go, it is raining. I was like, it started raining, joke one. So the audience is getting wet, but you have a thing on top here, like a pavilion, and they're all getting. It's getting into one of the worst. I did Laughlin, Nevada, the same thing with the raking light with, like, 40 people in a 2,000-seat amphitheater with Chris Katan and Tim Meadows. What's a raking light mean?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Raking, like, right in your eyes. Like the sun was trying to go down. It was like just blinding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Well, I said, and it was raining on him. So I said, the guy backstage who runs it told me it might rain. And I said, well, if it rains, they're going to start to leave.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And he said, no, in Alaska, we're not a bunch of pussies. And I said that. And the crowd went, ooh, ah, they loved it. They loved it. By the way, not one person left. They got rained on. It's Alaska. That's what they, they're Alaska tough.
Starting point is 00:12:04 They're tough, man. I like those people. So I had a good time. The only last thing I'll tell you, and then I'll tell you 20 more things was when I was sitting at breakfast waiting for those guys. I'm on like a bench seat along the wall. The hotel's packed of the fucking gills for some reason. And then this woman next to me, she goes, she's staring at me. And I just keep like reading the menu. And she goes, ho ho. I hear making noise. And she goes, Dana Carvey. Oh, wow. Classic color. I go.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Uh, close. Then I keep reading. She goes, you're Dan at Carvey. I go, I'm not, but yes, I, I know, Dan, I know what you're saying. And it's, we used to work with together. We used to have the same job. Then she goes, but you're that guy. And I go, and then she goes, I don't have my phone because I left it in Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:13:06 I go, what? Dude, if I left at my room, I'd be fucking flipping out. three minutes ago I'd be like click glitch glitch glitch glitch so she finally goes
Starting point is 00:13:20 I could tell by your voice her Dana Carby she kept hammering and everyone now in the restaurant I'm like it's not him but
Starting point is 00:13:27 anyway I finally have to say no no I'm a different guy and then well will you sign it sign me something because I don't have my phone so I sign it David but I put
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Starting point is 00:15:44 We went to Hertz Castle again. We were gone a couple weeks ago. Whoa. And they have this thing with these giant buses, big, heavy, eight-tire buses. And they go up the 1600 feet incline around hairpin turns up to the castle. Then you see the event, and then you're coming back down. So we sat in the very front. And I'm watching the guy downshifting.
Starting point is 00:16:07 it looks like you're going 30, 40 miles an hour, right at a hairpin turn. There's no guardrails, and he's kind of like straining to turn. If one tire gets out, we're trundling down. Trundling. And right before we got another thing, the guide, we have been guided the whole way through, a very nice woman. She goes, hey, well, isn't that special? I gave her a hug.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And then going down, I was really nervous. My palms were sweating. I was watching the driver. He had a cloth, and he was watching. wiping off the sweat and just so then I came up with this idea just hit us like a ton of bricks I don't think it'll be funny on the podcast but I just did a news report ladies and gentlemen at this hour the church lady is no more as if I trundled off the thing but no church lady went to heaven the church lady is no more I don't know where that phrase comes from but the church lady is no more
Starting point is 00:17:01 but anyway it was a fun trip but you should go up there where is that I had um Central California, you know, it's near south of Monterey, north of Papadaba, near Pasoobos. It's about a guy with a billion trillion dollars who just kept building and building this giant thing. Charlie Chaplin was there, Winston Churchill, you know. They were there this weekend? Yeah. Carrie Grant came by. I didn't believe it.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I told you that the other day that I used old-timey movie star voices when I'm calling Comcasts. Yeah, I like this. And they're like, so have you tried turning on off your machine? And they don't know who Carrie Grant is. So the whole time I'm just going, yes, I did. I turned it on and not, but nothing happened. And I'll turn it on enough again, but nothing's happening. Well, they go, well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Let's see, do you want someone to come out? Well, that would be very nice. If you could have someone come out and take care of my gumcast. I used to have TiVo that I have Spectrevision. And I don't say, who is this? Are you making a fun? This is the way you talk. They just accept Carrie Grant completely.
Starting point is 00:18:10 We should bring back that talk again. It sounds cool, actually. It is kind of a very strange accent. And sometimes I kind of do Henry Fonda. I'm trying to watch the game. I'm not getting any kind of reception here. And they don't say, hey, are you Henry Fonda? They just work with you.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. So anyway, that's a little fun, little side note. No, that's it. other than that, I would not go to that place. It's not far enough for me. I like to go to super effing far. I got confirmation because I said our mutual manager, Mark Slurvitz, book me where David went. And I am going to play it in the dead of winter. They would love you. February 1st. It's called the ice bowl that day. Actually, Alaska was really fun. And it's fun to see a place that you never, ever go. And it was a good reason to go. And then,
Starting point is 00:19:04 we drove around and we ate and everyone kept pushing the salmon on us. Have you tried that salmon? The funniest part was everyone. They all have like a Canadian accent kind of. Kind of. I'm sort of cheating it, but everyone has either new balance or Roku's or snow boots or just boots. It's all boots. And then we leave the hotel. We see the guy in an empty room, the shoe shine guy. And I'm like, who's got who? Not one person had a hard shoes in that hotel. And he's just a broke shoeshine guy from another era. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I want to go there. Honestly, I would love to go to Alaska because I'm from Montana, which has a lot of that. But Alaska's like 2.0 as far as underdeveloped, grizzly bears everywhere. I mean, you saw the grizzly man guy. It was in Alaska.
Starting point is 00:19:56 The guy who just got killed by the grizzly bears because he loved them too much. I've decided I could maybe beat a bear. in a fight if they were declawed then to make it even couldn't they just go like that and you'd be dead i don't think they need the claw no because we we would grapple a little bit right and then it would be fair and then also they'd have to be roughly in my weight class so you would they would know they were in a fight a grizzly bear versus you declawed they they would know they're getting something you would you would make your presence known as a physical being they would
Starting point is 00:20:33 try to make themselves bigger, I go, oh, to scare me, it doesn't work with me. It works the other way around. It doesn't work with me. Because I hit a fly in the shower. I shouldn't even tell you this. I was getting in the shower. Where are we? Okay. I'll save this for next episode. It's too good. We have, we have pressing news. Yeah, we have pressing news about SNL. Beep, beep, beep, beep. We're the last people to report on this and we're the S&L. We were just there. No, it's happening live in real time. So basically, well, we can do these in different chunks. There was two big things that caught my attention.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Well, three big things. One is the people that they let go, they're not coming back. Two is the people that they hired. And then the fact that please don't destroy, please don't destroy. Please don't destroy. So that was disbanded in a very unique way. Please don't destroy. Please don't destroy.
Starting point is 00:21:33 And they ask nicely. The exit people, Heidi Gardner, Devin Walker, Emile, Michael Longfellow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Heidi. Rosebud. Rosebud Baker as a writer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 We had on the pod right before that. And she did feel a bit waffly. Right? Yeah. A little bit. you know, I just say there's two lanes. There's one lane where you're a little iffy. Is this the right thing for what
Starting point is 00:22:06 I should be doing with my resources? My personal talent. Am I getting paid enough to make it worse my while? If you're the tip of the spear, if you're on the show all the time and you're really killing it, then you don't, you want to stay, you know?
Starting point is 00:22:22 And also, like Rose, but there's also not just her, but there's a mental aspect of like, Can I take it another year? I mean, you know that sinking feeling. You don't know it. I know the sinking feeling.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I had a weird time. When you're not in, when you don't get anything past readthrough, and that is the longest week because you get out at Wednesday and you're like just staring. And you're just invisible because everyone's like,
Starting point is 00:22:48 all right, I got to direct my sketch. I got to meet with Keith. I got to put this set dressing together. I want to go to wigs, figure that out, hair and makeup and talk to the cast and everything's happening around you.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Now you've got to start, on Wednesday night thinking about the next host going what can I write for next week because I didn't get anything on as a writer or performer and I think some of these guys had that problem that if you're a cast member and it's just like such a mind effort to sit there and wait and wait and watch.
Starting point is 00:23:17 I want to be happy for it and cheerlead because you want to be part of it and then you just go, shit, I'm not really part of it this week and then all Saturday and watching things kill and that's tough. Well, the first time that when I, I went on years ago, there was just three main male cast members. It was me and Phil and John Lovitz left over from 85. And so, and then we had Kevin Neeland and feature A. Whitney Brown
Starting point is 00:23:44 and so forth, and they became maybe. But it was, it's very interesting how for a long time, it's 17, 18, 19, 20 people. And so there's some people, if you don't get on the show, Devin Walker had told me this because I was just out there. You were out there. Hunter Biden you became Hunter Biden. There was no more of David Spade. It actually was a great look and you were great. But Devin had told me that when you don't get on the show a lot, to your point, then when you get out there and you have a moment, you're not just sort of relaxed because it's like if you don't score here, you go back in line. So it can be emotionally violent, depending where you are on the show, or it could be a magic.
Starting point is 00:24:29 ride nothing likes killing on live television um we can bounce bounce around to get but the one that got my attention the most was the please don't destroy uh because it seemed to me they're really popular they were an which is the group of three the sorry the group of three guys ben marshall john higgins and martin hurley he yeah um and they do these short films kind of esoteric ones that you know was, you know, Timothy Shalame or whoever. And Taylor Swift has been in them. Like, they get big stars in them, yeah. So that really surprised me.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And on a human level, I was surprised that they kept some of them. So John Higgins is not going to be part of S&L. And he's on, yeah, Steve Higgins' son is. He's not at all? Not at all. Ben Marshall, the taller guy with the Fair Hair, he's going to be a feature player. And then Martin Hurley, Tim Hurley's son,
Starting point is 00:25:32 in fairness, he is going to be a writer. But John Higgins' dad is Steve Higgins, who does is the sidekick to Jimmy Fallon, the announcer, and also writer-producer, been on the show in and around this. Is he the head writer? I don't think so, but he's just been a producer-writer there for like 20 years, or more, I don't know. And that's his son.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And I don't know how the decisions are made, but that's just on a human level. It's sort of like, you know, it's don't know. I mean, you know, that didn't hit me that if they pick up one as a cast member, it immediately breaks them up. And now they're not on the show because they were only really in those things. And they also wrote. They were writing sketches.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Oh, okay. they were writers and then that was the thing they did it wasn't on every week please don't destroy me short film but i was on consistently it seemed me you seem to me eight to ten episodes a year sure um so you know as far as you know martin hurley he his dad's a great writer tim hurley wrote is writing stuff with sandler all the time and did write a lot of classic movies so but these are they would call them nepo people but they're really talented All three of them worked together. I never saw that one was above of the other.
Starting point is 00:26:56 I thought it was very, they had a lot of chemistry. And so that was kind of surprising. How mentally tough. That really is drama. I mean, my gosh. Yeah. Because it's so tough there anyway and they were making some headway. And I think they did a Please Don't Destroy movie.
Starting point is 00:27:15 They did. And I do think, I'm not sure, but I think they do own Please Don't Destroy. And I think they're currently doing some dates. So we'll say they probably have eels, but I don't know. Oh my God. So the one guy has to say, I'm going to take this. I'm going to be a cast member. It's fucking awkward for sure, right?
Starting point is 00:27:38 It's just weird. Yeah, it's like the three food is. And they take Mo Howard, but then, you know, Shem doesn't get anything. It's not literally like, I'm trying to think of a trio. The Marks Brothers, we're taking groucho, but not hard. I'm not saying it's that, but it is different. They have a fan base.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I mean, they definitely, sometimes they would wait a week for a host or something like, they would write something and go, oh, when John Hamm comes, I'll do this, you know. And then to write for the show. But so one is going to be a performer, probably still a writer. One is going to be a writer. Writer, Martin Hurley. Yeah. And Higgins.
Starting point is 00:28:18 John Higgins. He's good, too. He's a son who's very good, very funny, is just not good to show anymore, you know. So it must be just awkward for his dad and everything, you know. So, I mean, he's very talented and they're all talented. And, you know, everyone at one point is an ex-S&L cast member or writer. You're always going to be post-S&L way longer than you're on SNL. So it does happen eventually, and he's got a good foothold as far as being seen as a great writer, great performer, along with his two friends, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:57 Right. He could be thrown in movies. I mean, any of them. I think one of them was unhappy Gilmore, too, I think. Probably. But I don't know that is any bearing on who stays, who goes. Yeah. So that's just a, uh, heavy one.
Starting point is 00:29:12 On top of everything else, on top of just that, you know, it's already a full cast. And Heidi, do we know did she leave or was she? From what I know as of this recording, that it was not her idea to leave. Now, I could be wrong about that, but that's what I read. That would be a little shocking because she's really one of the core ones you know from that show. And she always does a great job. You never know. And it is a hard thing.
Starting point is 00:29:45 But I was really, really surprised. I think she's got a likeability. She can play real straight newswoman, serious. She can play big, broad, funny, physical. So I was surprised by that. She has finished a full eight seasons, which is right up there, you know. Eight is a lot. Eight's a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Eight is enough was a show. Eight is enough. who got their name eight is enough based on what you just said. It knew that eight is a lot. Based on the, there wasn't even SNL then, but that's a whole other story. I mean,
Starting point is 00:30:25 when you look back, Dana, as you were brushing against earlier when you were talking, the first cast was maybe eight. Total. Maybe. Seven or eight. And that's why they were all stars. They're all in everything.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And you're like, you kind of look like this person, you do it. As we said, Dan Ackroyd, mustache play nixon don't wear a wig nothing you're just nixon and it all worked when it was up to us when we were there it was really fat and uh i think it stayed pretty porky because right now once you guys were added and a lot of us were different words it's chunky right now it's
Starting point is 00:31:06 yeah it's some blubber lean and mean and now it's chunky and flubber they need a little fucking I've ozempick over there It's a sink or swim It's a hedger bet You go or you don't go It reminds you of hunger games You're sticking out the window Send in this
Starting point is 00:31:26 You know like in hunger games Just to cause trouble Right or gladiator Bring in Brutus and see if he can stab anybody If not When Joaquin stabs him And he goes hey good luck out there And he's like
Starting point is 00:31:39 I'd love to get stabbed in the movie just so I could do that moment of like, and then you go, I know it hurts and it hit an artery, but I'm still going to be out there for a 40 minute finale. My character would pull it out. And then like, slow motion.
Starting point is 00:31:59 All right. So let's just give our props to Michael Longfellow, a really cool. Longfellow, dude. All these people. Emil was, an adorable person and funny out there, you know, so it's, it's, it's just, they can't have
Starting point is 00:32:18 a hundred cast members. I don't know how these people feel, but I give them my props for being, I was there with all of them. Yeah. You spent some time. I was there for 10 freaking weeks. Yeah, you moved there and deserted me. But, um, Lauren and I talked a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Next year, Dana, what do you think? Where do you, where do you want to go? And, um, I said a lot of things. And Dana, I was. Also, I'll say on the new cast, there's only two I know briefly. Okay. Veronica. I'm going to screw this up.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Sure. Okay. Who are we looking at? Which one's this? Oh, there she is. Here's a new cast member. I'm done, done, done. She does these goofy videos all the time.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I'm done being the beauty standard. I'm done being Mrs. Beautiful online. I'm sick of it. Okay. I'm sick of this making the money. I'm sick of this making the money. I'm sick of it all. Okay. I'm done. I don't know of me for my mind. If you crack the skull open and would be able to read it like a scroll, you would find some fucked up shit. I'm not kidding. Okay. Well, then what is like, so why are you posing like that then if you don't want to be? Stop, Kyle, sexualizing me. It's fucking disgusting. This is all she does. Okay. Then stop doing that and say like. Sherry-O-Terry vibes.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Yeah, it is funny. She is fucking full bananas. But she does these on Instagram and she's funny. So she will be play. She has characters. She also is in tires with Shane and she was on there this season. So listen, she's good. High qual.
Starting point is 00:34:00 She'll be good. There's brilliant people that are soft-spoken or on their back foot and have a dry kind of quirky way about them. When you see her, on her front foot. She's like, she's got a neurotic or she's portraying a neurotic energy with a lot of pop to it. So I can see that. That can pay off. Kate McGinney vibes. You don't want to put any, you don't want to. I can see some sherry O'Terry in there. Yeah, sure. It's a little, it's a little nuts. And she sings, which also helps because if you can sing on that show,
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Starting point is 00:36:12 see the Tim's app for details at participating restaurants in Canada for a limited time. Cam Patterson is a dude on there. He's on, our friend Tony Hincliffe. Yeah. Yeah. And let me tell you how I happened to. I was on Tinder.
Starting point is 00:36:33 It was 3 o'clock in the morning. You know, at 3 o'clock in the morning, you want to fuck something. something real bad. So I was just swiped like a motherfucker. I was just sending out hair marries like a bitch, right? And at one swipe, I just seen some big ass titty. So I was like, hmm. So I just went, I want to suck your tities. And she responded, well, come suck them then. Touchdown. So I get to the crib, right? And I don't see big ass tities. I see Dwayne, the rock Johnson in a wheel. So now I am terrified. I'm scared of shit. So when I get in a house,
Starting point is 00:37:02 I lock myself in the bathroom and I start doing research, right? I want to make sure she really elated, right? So I made and I scrolled and I found out she was born elated. So I'm like, oh, cool, we can fuck now. But I don't know if I'll notice or not. If you have a fucking a girl you think might be a dude, your research never stops. So 30 seconds in, we fucking the missionary, right? And she think I'm trying to choke her, but I'm feeling for Adam's apple. This is a sort of clip. You ain't going to get me, stupid. Dumbass. I won't point. We were
Starting point is 00:37:37 fucking I felt so safe in her strong ass arms. I just let myself go. I felt free. I felt so free. And we were fucking and at one point she bitched spressed me out of her pussy.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And I just went, I was having a great time. Okay. Is there a longer clip? Cam is funny. I saw Cam at, I went to the stand when I was in town in New York last time
Starting point is 00:38:04 and Tim Dillon was on. I went on a show. it was me and Tim Dillon and Cam. Yeah. And Tim was hilarious, of course, and then Cam. And those two guys are both in Bus Boys. And I wanted to see Cam because I hadn't really seen him much. And I never seen him in person.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And he has a very interesting take on these stories. He had a story about his sister that was really funny. So long story short, I could see Cam on that show. I could see it. Eddie Murphy vibes, that kind of stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming because it's sort of like, Like, tell that story on update and how much would he have to compromise the rhythm of the language?
Starting point is 00:38:43 You can't say, fuck, so I want to go make love to her, you know? And so that's the only thing I would see. He must have bits where it's just there, it's clean, right? Yeah, really rough on the edges stuff. And, you know, on Kill Tony, that's kind of how the vibe is. But people like that and appreciate it out there. Now, does it tame him down too much on SNL? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:04 No, no. But he has a very likable vibe about him and a charismatic vibe. So you're compelled. There's something about him that's really, really. Yeah, he's a good looking kid. He's a great, a lot of charm. And he's telling the story that's like, and he's still just really likable throughout. I want some tithies and I see, you know, it's like, but there's something about his utter honesty.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Yeah, he knows what he's doing in the stand-up. And there's Tony Brennan, I don't think I know, maybe. I know. No, let's try Tony Brennan. Oh, okay. I've seen this kid. All right. Yeah, you don't see eight a lot anymore.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I think mainly because it's the wrong choice, probably. Is that kids? You can't love eight kids individually. You manage them like a sports franchise, you know? Like you love the overall team, sure, but you'd trade a couple players. Absolutely. We all have these weird individual relationships with our parents in my family. Like me and my dad are in a fun spot because my dad's a doctor and I don't have health insurance.
Starting point is 00:40:11 It rules because any time he's like, I don't believe in your career, I'm like, dude, same here. Right back at you, Doc. That's what I never call. That's out of pocket. Unfortunately, when I lost my health insurance, my dad kind of became my go-to doctor. That's not a great relationship to have. have with your primary care physician. Me and him have to have little medical check-ins.
Starting point is 00:40:38 He'll be like, hey, you should drink less. And I'm like, hey, you should hug more. Let's treat the root cause, not the symptom. That's good. Okay. So that was about him being from a family of one of it, eight. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And I was on Fallon, it looked like. I do like he wears a windbreaker too. That's a funny look. That's a cool different look. He has a bit about that. that jacket, I saw it in a different clip. Yeah, I know it's a clean cut, good looking kid. You know, they're all different so far.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I think that. Yeah, he's got a tinge of Mullaney in his looks. Okay, yeah, who else? Should we go down and show the rest, I guess? Well, there's one more, I think. There's, is there one more? We did Jeremy for the first time. Are you ready for the blue?
Starting point is 00:41:32 Because we are about to set, sit, sit. Oh, what's this? Hold on. Wow, this is actually, oh, really, it's really helping. I feel great. Avast ye, matey. Ar, we no longer respect you. Oh, come on, listen, hey. Hey, listen to me, you pirates.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I won't be challenged like this. Oh, you sound stupid. You sound like you sound like. me dad listen i'm not your father i'm the most feared pirate in all of the seven seas we're gonna go in there and pillage and kill who's with me damn it okay why does this pirate now sound like he's a two-bedroom on wall street this is an improv show that's kind of okay so that's off a show pirate eats a throat loud because i think that they got that and then they improvised it yeah i guess yeah well that's pretty funny okay um
Starting point is 00:42:32 So that's the whole squad, and he's probably from an improv background. Well, I didn't know his complete improv, but yeah, he sort of was, in his eyes, he was having fun, you know. Yeah. And it's always going to project that. For sure. So it's hard to tell. We wish him all the best. We're not saying we're talent scouts, although, you know, Dennis recommended David.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And then Lauren asked me what I thought of David. And I said, uh, what, what's, why are you pausing? Oh, David Spain? Well, what, just say if yay or nay, I just need an answer, please. Uh, uh, well, I co-signed you. Yeah, you did. And Rob Schneider. No, it's a big. All that stuff obviously was the biggest push because they hear stuff on the streets everybody gets it from some whisper of like have you heard about this guy this guy's seen him in the clubs you see cam uncilled tony so something happens and someone sees you on instagram or and then enough people talk that they take a look and then your your reps are pushing you i guess and then but if you have people on the inside going oh i know this person they're great
Starting point is 00:43:53 you know that that help me it helps a lot of people yeah because there is uh there's that thing But there is sort of like, I think, for Lauren, is how he's said this before, but does the cast, will they be friends? Will there not be conflict? Will there be someone you want to have dinner with or hang out with? You know, it's that sort of, you don't want someone who is bringing toxic energy into the thing, unless they're a genius or they're fucking brilliant. But most are pretty humbled by that show, even best. And this new cast, I mean, I think we can wrap up with this because this show is. mostly going to be about that today. But I think it's a good mix of those people we just saw.
Starting point is 00:44:37 So I think they'll do a good job. It doesn't mean it won't be very dramatic, as always. But I think they have some talent there. And now the fun starts where you've got to start writing and go, okay. And we didn't get Ben Marshall, but he's been on there and please don't destroy. He's the tall. Oh, right. We didn't show. Light hair. But we've seen his work, his vibe. He's funny. And when is that first show? I mean, it is September. Holy October 4th So it's still like a month
Starting point is 00:45:05 away of them hanging out there When you're new and you're around the office for a month It's very stressful You know Because you know it's out there Where you got to go on live
Starting point is 00:45:16 We went on a Were you there When we went to Mohunk To all hang out Yeah On a getaway Cast to get together Hangout
Starting point is 00:45:27 Get us all kind of Together Sandler and bunk beds and Farley. Mohunk. And every time someone talked about Montauk, I thought they were saying
Starting point is 00:45:37 Mohunk wrong. I'm like, oh, we went to the coolest place Mohunk and everyone's like, no one's gone to Mohunk except. No, it was a haunted hotel. I did a movie there and it was absolutely haunted.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And Chris Farley was sleepwalking and we ended up spooning. You know, he came to my room and it was like, you know, he crawled in my bed. Sure. You know, there's one quick story then we can end, but Norm said that when we were in that haunted hotel, Farley said, Norm, I have to tell you a secret. Come with me. No one can hear. And he goes, all right. Because you always go along with whatever Farley fit. And he walks him down. Then he goes, go down this elevator. Then they go in this fucking dusty room underneath. And he goes, Pat's a girl. And that was it. I love when someone goes so far. We'll push our family. questions to next week because I like this talk.
Starting point is 00:46:33 But we're going to come back strong next week. We'll show clips. We'll do news stories. Any feedback on this? We're just like you. We're fans of the show and we just sort of went over everything and, you know, let us know your take. And God bless all those people because it's just a lot of the family is your siblings, whoever. And it's a lot of try to have fun.
Starting point is 00:46:58 It never works to say that. But that's, that's the goal is when you're out there, have inside your brain be having fun, if possible. And the people leaving are a little disoriented right now, but it will all be, it's all works out. Well, they're already, Heidi Gardner's a big talent. Yeah, she's going to go places, yeah. I see her on TV every three seconds. She's on commercials. Gosh, she does a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah, she's great. Okay, thanks, everybody. Thanks, Dana, for coming by and doing my show. And thanks for having me on again, David. It's been 200 times in a row. I appreciate that. And we'll see you guys next week. See you next week, guys.
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