Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Sarah Sherman and Dan Bulla

Episode Date: May 17, 2023

Audience dysmorphia, touring with Sandler, and collaborating on sketches with Sarah Sherman and Dan Bulla. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.co...m/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Whether you're doing a dance to your favorite artist in the office parking lot, or being guided into Warrior I in the break room before your shift, whether you're running on your Peloton tread at your mom's house while she watches the baby, or counting your breaths on the subway. Peloton is for all of us, wherever we are whenever we need it, download the free Peloton app today. Peloton app available through free tier, or pay subscription starting at 12.99 per month. Sherman Dan Boone. Yeah, you can sing that one, share, share, share, share. No, that's hard part. Dan Boone.
Starting point is 00:00:51 Dan Bula, Sarah Sherman. Dan Bull is a writer, producer of SNL. He also writes with Sandler, produces stuff with him. I think he did a ridiculous six. He pays the piano on all Sandler's specials. He writes music with him. I think he did a ridiculous six. And he pays the piano on all of his specials. Yeah. He writes music with him, writes jokes. He's funny.
Starting point is 00:01:08 And he's a huge writer on Sarah Night Live. And he's bonded in a writer release since with Sarah Sherman. So we had him both on. Yeah. And so this is a really, really good episode that gives an insight into how they're creating this, this very cool stuff they're doing on SNL. Sarah is one of the breakout girls that is very interesting. She's got a mullet haircut.
Starting point is 00:01:28 It looks like Jane Fondin, Clute. She's very adorable, upbeat, and bull o'luxy. Looks like Donald Sutherland. Yeah, he looks like a cop from a 70s movie. Well, that was from Clute. Oh, I see. I'm gonna get my own rough. Yeah, but you had Jane get my own roughness.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, but you had Jane Fonda and you had Clue. But you know, I think she looks more like leather Tuscadero. I think she has kind of a young energetic, I can see, almost a punk attitude in a fun way. There's something about her. She's kind of nuts. I mean, we, we, we, she's a little great. I'm like, she's so confident, but then we'll find out what really is going on inside her brain.
Starting point is 00:02:12 She dresses in clown clothes, which is funny. So it's hilarious me. She, everything she wears is hilarious, and she goes on tour right now. But we talked, you know, you get a little inside deets on actually writing everyday to us and out what's it like? How do they break down a sketch? How do they come up with it? How do they pitch it? How do they add to it?
Starting point is 00:02:30 If it makes it, if it doesn't. And yeah, and then you go to a sketch away. She's doing some stuff on update that's never been done before. That's really, you'll hear all about it. It's pretty revolutionary. Yeah. And they think visually in a different way than we did. So what they're doing is very different. And also just, yes, she dresses in clown clothes and Sarah's big influences are kind of like shows that are on Nickelodeon in the 90s and stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's what you wouldn't expect. But anyway, it's gonna be an interesting little list in for you. Yeah, they were a lot of fun. It's kind of a different dynamic. There's four of us talking. So obviously, Dan and I were freaking out because we couldn't talk as much. little listen for you. Yeah. They were a lot of fun. It's kind of a different dynamic. There's four of us talking. So obviously, Dan and I were freaking out because we couldn't talk as much.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Well, actually for me, it was kind of fun because I go, can I interrupt all three of them in a 10 second period? Boom. I interrupted you. Jumped on Dan. Boom. Cut off Sarah. That's a trifecta.
Starting point is 00:03:19 In my head when they're talking, I'm just like, this doesn't remind me enough of a story about me and I go, now it does. Here I go. Boom. I see on the Zoom, I see the single tier coming down your cheek and I go, every quiet. I'm ready to go because I'm about to tell. His day was about to tell a story. And I go, you guys are gonna sell you know what else was
Starting point is 00:03:37 and they're like, go ahead and I go, it was a stormy night. They asked you, did anyone, did you ever have to leave in the summertime and bring all your stuff back to California? Remember they brought that over? Oh yeah, they said, because I used to have to. I used to, they wouldn't say I was hired back
Starting point is 00:03:51 so in May, this is before Uber Eats and all the stuff you guys have, I would be like this. I'd have to get a mattress and just check out of my third straight place, to do, to do, to do, to take the mattress down, throw it on the to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to a bowl for my cereal. It was real bearbottles. Me and the Summers, I would just look for bigger, better apartments. You know, I know, really, really, really, really, great to go.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Let's get a 20,000 square footer. Yeah, warm bucks. And I see you on the bus hanging out the window with kind of a hobo stick with the clothes on the back. Please, sir. Yeah, little one. Can I get some supplements, foaming tuffins? Only became a superstar later in life.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Meaning, meaning at 32. Are we still doing it? Here's Sarah and Dan. Sarah and Dan, two of the nicest people you've ever wanted to listen to and meet. Can I ask you a quick question? Like, we're going to get into Sarah Sarah Squirm and you and Dan and everything. But when you're growing up, what do you see that turns you on initially, like a cartoon
Starting point is 00:05:12 or something that gets you into this path of whatever you call your style of humor? You have five seconds. Like Peeley's playhouse and running Stimpy and like I really like the nanny Nanny of all as far as Goth and and and sort of using Grotesque things and all that word that come from squirmish, you know, like That stuff is from like garbage pale kids and like Ren and Stimpy like Ren and Stimpy'm gonna check that out. It's fucking garbage-failed kids too, it's funny. Oh yeah, they're vomiting and stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:49 My kids are your age and so I saw all those, you know, randomly as I was walking through. People don't bring references as they're comedy heroes as much as you think. I think it's kind of cool. Garbage-failed kids, now I'm remembering. Yeah, it's a lot of vomit and like puppets you could buy or toys that had vomit elements
Starting point is 00:06:06 to them and stuff. Professors and goo and yeah. And it's funny, they're all punny and cold cut is a slice up ham-hawk. All of the slices have different bases on it, cold cuts, cold cuts, and cutting it's hilarious. Well, Dana, for the audience, is right on SNL and works with Adam Sandler a lot. I think you guys write together a lot. And what is it, Dan, of her, I'd say, quirkiness, I don't want to undersell it, but for Sarah's
Starting point is 00:06:44 be such an adorable face with this crazy shit coming out of her mouth,'d say quirkiness, I don't want to undersell it. But for Sarah's, be such a adorable face with this crazy shit coming out of her mouth. It's kind of part of the appeal probably, right? Yeah, I mean, Sarah came in to the show. Like when new people start, it's always takes a minute to sort of get what they're all about and find their roicing stuff. And Sarah came in and like right off the bat was pretty
Starting point is 00:07:04 obvious like what her influences were and just like I remember the first table read being like damn this person is fearless you know it's just wild energy just like it was it immediately like this person has it you know and has something to make and stuff. Yeah, I watch in your stuff. You seem, you don't seem to be ever pushing or trying. I mean, you seem like a veteran. Like the way you present on SNL is not normal for how soon you are into your tenure. So.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's truly, there was one show, Dan can test this, because I get psych... I go psych... I get psych hotically nervous and I really had to puke before the show because I was like anxious and so I took a zofran To get myself from stop because I didn't want to obviously Nausea thing Doodling it's like they give it to like pregnant women with like morning sickness so they don't put their brains out.
Starting point is 00:08:07 And I like needed it to act really fast. So I like to, I chewed up this like pillier so it's a swallow and it turned my tongue completely white. And I was like, oh shit, like I have to go do a sketch where I'm like, the whole sketch is just someone saying it's like crazy. And I go like this like my mouth. But my tongue was white from chewing this like drug and so that I ate a bunch of candy
Starting point is 00:08:33 before the sketch to like die my tongue a different color than white and so like I have like a bright red tongue during the sketch from like eating a bunch of it might have the stories like awesome. right red tongue during the sketch from like eating a bunch. It might have had this stories like awesome. No, we like it. We like the craziness of the show because your nerves come out in those crazy ways. I remember being in that eighth floor bath
Starting point is 00:08:57 and it's way in the back past page just, but going back toward the elevators and you can go way back and there's a bath in there looking at my nose going, it's dead quiet quiet here and I have to go out there. And in 10 minutes everyone will see me across country. It's not like you film a movie and then it comes out a year later. You could walk off in the phone or ring
Starting point is 00:09:14 and I just saw you. And you don't have cell phones back then, so you have to wait and just wonder if it was any good, very odd, but I'm glad you get nervous and you don't look as cool as you look out there. But what, isn't it, you get that first laugh, do you calm down at that point a little bit? Because that was big for me, I'd be so terrified.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Then if I got a laugh, it took it down 20%. No, and then I come off stage and it doesn't matter how well it goes. I go straight to Bull and I go, I'm gonna fucking kill myself. I'm gonna fucking kill myself. There definitely have been times Sarah walks off and she goes, was that okay? And people are literally still laughing and clapping.
Starting point is 00:09:53 It's not over yet. People are still laughing. You did great. I think we're all crazy. After Jewish Elvis, I thought I was gonna die. I was like, I literally thought I was gonna die. And I was being crazy and I come backstage and I'm like, I literally thought I was gonna die. And I was being crazy and I come backstage and I'm like soaking sweat. And you're like, that was great.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And I'm like, you know, and I do that thing where I'm like, well, you're just like saying that because you're like trying to make me feel better because I'm clearly having a panic attack and I'm like, everyone's lying to me. Textbook crazy. Yeah, we've talked about when people change their compliment from great to good.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Sorry, David. Well, it's, yeah, I mean, let's say that was good. You almost got a great and then they switch it halfway. I don't like that. That was great. Good. But Dan, you saw that one, Dan. Did you see that one?
Starting point is 00:10:38 It was, what was it, explain that sketch quickly, Sarah, because I think it was Austin Butler was in the front row too, which probably made you nervous. I literally, yes. Doing Elvis in front of like actual Elvis, because I think that Austin Butler is actually possessed by the spirit of Elvis. Like I, right. It is this generation's Elvis.
Starting point is 00:10:59 So the feeling to have the real Elvis, I think that, I think that's a very, very nice thing to say. I don't know why people think of him. It's really been a Clinton meet, had a baby with Elvis, I think that's a very, very nice thing to say. I don't know why people think of them. It's really been a clinton meet, had a baby with Elvis, I think. Yeah. But so you didn't feel that went well, and you were especially nervous doing Elvis
Starting point is 00:11:16 in front of Austin Butler? I don't know. I think I have audience dysmorphia or something where I literally sometimes I'm so black out panicked that I can't hear laughs. And so even a lot of times in standup, I'll be like on stage saying like, I can't believe I'm bombing right now
Starting point is 00:11:38 and you guys aren't laughing at this. This is the funniest shit I could ever, you know, whatever. And everyone's like, you're not bombing. There are sometimes when you win, not you, but when you're, anyone is doing their act and people are sort of smiling and watching and they're just not a loud audience because there's like not one person's left loud.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So the whole crowd has decided, we're not gonna go big on this one. We're just gonna like it. And then you think you're eating it. And then everyone's like, I thought it was good until you told us we were bad and you were bad And then they then they go, oh, I guess you didn't do well, but we liked it and you go, oh, but that happens a lot and I we did the road Dana is it and we were on the road and Mr. Carvey if you was with
Starting point is 00:12:23 We went out with Adam and Bula works with Adam and they run this fun tour. And how did Sarah get on that tour, by the way, before I tell my not interesting story? Sandler likes her. He thinks she's great. Oh. Can you believe something like that, David's brave? No, I think it was something else. But no, yeah, I liked her.
Starting point is 00:12:45 And I saw, I think that first thing I saw was your update where you were in Collins, maybe is dressing him or something. And then you were doing live reports from there. And it was very clever. And I was like, who the fuck is chicken? And then I think I asked Bula or somebody. And then, and then you pretty soon after I saw you, you were going to be on
Starting point is 00:13:05 one of the gigs that I was on and you were super fun right away. We had a blast. I had a blast. You wrote me a joke. Oh, it is? Yeah, you wrote me my joke that I love it. Oh, should we do it? Yeah, you, because I have like, like 10 minutes, I don't know why, but like
Starting point is 00:13:28 during these samler shows, I'm from a 15,000 people, I'm like, you know, I'm just going to do 10 minutes of like big fat pussy jokes. Oh, God, damn, that's right. And then it's so, that's what I would do. I think like my instincts are bad. Anyway, um, well, how does his audience take those jokes? I mean, are, is it? I can't tell. I think they're wrapping their mind around you because if no one's Sandler for 30 years, so when, when newer people come on, obviously, they like you
Starting point is 00:14:01 from SNL, obviously, you're a funny performer. And the stuff is so out of left field, you have to admit it takes people a second just to adjust. And once they get into your vibe, they love it. Like, I would, of course, we're laughing at something inside because you're doing your New York thing. And you're keep going. And I'm like, is she still going? And I thought, how balsy for this when it's this big crowd? And you don't even know if they're in to it or not. She doesn't care. It's just a blank slate of just going,
Starting point is 00:14:29 they got the best pizza. It was got the pizza screaming and putting your arm out in her head to the side. But it was such a cool style that once they buy into it, that's where you go to the next level. You're like, it's so brave of you to bomb and eat shit in front of 15,000. You know what was great is that you don't care at all that they weren't doing anything. You didn't care at all. No, I'm up there going doing my 7-Eleven jokes, going, ugh, like me.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Well, you wrote my favorite joke. You wrote it. I've got so much old meat between my legs. I gotta keep a silica pack and are my underwear to keep it from going bad She says Old me between my well Dana. I think we got there because it was already I didn't get that joke out of the blue I didn't know you know she does jokes about I
Starting point is 00:15:26 No, she does jokes about, I don't know how I remember, I remember David coming up with that whole thing, the whole When sir, have you ever talked about what's inside your pants? There might be something there and here's a starter joke Yeah, there's been there's a whole history of Referring to one's genitalia in a drugatory way men and women. No No, Dana, you don't understand. She talks about it in her act in front of people. No, I'm sure that couldn't be right. Anyway, Sarah, you are on the precipice. How do you spell that? Of being famous and the audience will then give you even,
Starting point is 00:16:03 like my standup got so bad as I started getting paid so much more because I was doing no standup. So I was getting paid 50 times as much and I was terrible. So welcome to the future. But that's, are you pretty much, if you play clubs in New York, don't they kind of go,
Starting point is 00:16:19 go go at this point when you come out or if you turn that corner where people, her, I love her. It's interesting. You might have to have another therapy session. I can't really tell. Like, I think, because now, like, you get intro'd, like, you know, coming to the stage, this person's on SNL, like, people at clubs are like, ooh, like, I came in from Indiana, I have a weekend in New York, and now I'm getting a nice little treat. And so you get a little bit of a safety net
Starting point is 00:16:52 with that a little bit, but you also, I guess, get a higher expectation because people are like, oh, you better do the job. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Or they think it's Chris Rock. You know, you know from SNL. I know you get these intros that are too big. I hate it, right? The intros were. Here she comes. Fashioned your comedy seat belts. I make them read my whole wick
Starting point is 00:17:19 a pay-dee a page or whatever it's called. W called. He was nominated for two K-Belays Awards. So I just kept this fucking guy up. From 1986, please welcome Dan O'Flarfo. But so I don't know how much time we have left, David, but we have a lot. I want to get into these two's collaboration. Yes. Why don't we just take one at a time? I do think the Colin Rostin run and the conceit of that,
Starting point is 00:17:51 we could start with that if you want, was so jaw-dropping to me. Like, why didn't anyone else think of that, the conceit of what he says, and then it's a news report. To me, that's just inspired. Like, when did that moment hit somebody who ever wrote that, that idea?
Starting point is 00:18:12 Or have you done it at some other theater? But it's such a great. He, I hadn't gotten anything onto the show. It was like my first season. And Colin was like trying to help me out. And he was like, let's get you on update. Like that'll be fun. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:29 And I had tried other things that like didn't work. And then I was like, I guess I could just be mean to him, even though his idea to be nice and let me on update. Me name is funny, because it's here such a cute face. And it was actually James Austin Johnson was like, he told me that other people previously, like years ago, had done update pieces, like remote, and I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:18:56 I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. I was like, I'm not going to be able to do that. He told me that other people previously, like years ago, had done update pieces, like remote. And so, initially I wanted to go into a bathroom that was, and go to a toilet that was filled with piss
Starting point is 00:19:18 and be like, Colin, is this your piss? It's really dehydrated. And everyone was like, oh, okay, hi, maybe not bad. You know, I did one with Christopher Walken where they let me go to like, you know, ninth street, I don't know if you're still there dinner. I went to ninth street and in this no storm. And I had him cover the desk for me.
Starting point is 00:19:40 And then he goes, throws to me live. And every time he throws to me me I can't hear it. I'm not. And so I'm just singing. I'm like, I love it when you call me big pop and he's like, David, our what's the weather like? And I go, isn't this clown supposed to throw to me? And then all you can do is hear me talking like they do off camera and ask for gum and
Starting point is 00:20:02 he's just staring at me and he goes, I don't think he can hear me. I don't know how to do this. What am I doing wrong? And then we keep going back and forth. But that was kind of hard to put together because I was out of the studio. So do they, are you saying you don't do anything out of the studio anymore? Or you were in studio in addressing him, right? Yeah, we're just asking gonna wear a set a set Wanted it kind of close because we didn't want it to look like a pre-tap You could definitely tell that it was I moved from the studio and I walk outside to a fake dressing room set So it was like trick to mean So Colin Joe's that the joke is on him It's supposed to be a dressing room and then what
Starting point is 00:20:47 do you find in there just for our listeners? Well, I find like an intern in a cage and like a... Intern in a cage, like posted on his mirror that say like you're going to be the next Marvel superhero. And then I'm supposed to hold up a like bikini babe picture of me. It was like a body builder body with a bikini with my head Photoshopped on it. And the joke is supposed to be like, oh my god, Colin, why do you have all these pictures in the dressing room? And I go to hold up the picture. But
Starting point is 00:21:14 during the live show, I like accidentally threw it. Yes. And so I went to hold up a big punchline. And it was. Hahaha. And didn't you, but then you kept going, but it didn't look like it was bad, because I think I saw that one. It was still funny. Yeah, everybody afterwards was like, well, that's the magic of live TV.
Starting point is 00:21:36 Anything that happens. Yeah. Well, it would have been funny if I got some I fucking punchline for the two of us. That would have been great. Well, it was at your close. I wonder if there's a mistake and you covered it beautifully. I mean, then it's like so extra alive, you know?
Starting point is 00:21:49 That's the great thing about SNL. The mistake stayed in. So it was. And Colin was laughing too, because he saw exactly what happened in the moment and knew that you were just gonna be staring at cue cards. Like, oh, I have three more lines about this thing. I'm not gonna have it.
Starting point is 00:22:04 You could tell he was really laugh. Yeah, he was really laugh. He was so good at laughing. It's awesome. Well, I know he has a likable, he has a face that looks young. I don't know. There's something about his persona that's so gentle
Starting point is 00:22:20 and likable and sort of conservative in a way, a brilliant writer writer of course. But roasting him, I don't know, there's a magic to it. He just goes, hey, it's like the 1960s or something. Hey, stop that. And you're accusing him of all kinds of horrible things, basically. Hey, the only reason the bit works is because I'm like, you're a pedophile and he's laughing and laughing, so it looks fine. Es el único momento que funciona porque yo estoy en la petición y es la verdad.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Y también, en el momento de que todos estos cosas son muy buenas, porque no se ve ningún momento. El segundo que usted dice es algo que hay un headline sobre esto. Eso es muy bueno, obviamente, de la gente está en la petición. Vamos a hablar con eso antes de que llegamos. ¿Hay cosas que te dejan pensando como por qué los vostéisos son contagiosos? Pero MailChimp no. MailChimp analiza los datos de millones de correos electrónicos para ofrecer recomendaciones personalizadas para mejorar el contenido de tus correos electrónicos, segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más adivina menos y vende más con IntuitimailChimp. La marca número 1 en Imail Market yña Automatización. Empezado hoy mismo en MailChimp.com. We also watch Meatballs. Oh, you're looking at Bula. That's how we started working together.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Yeah. That's a minute. Well, I know how does that come Bula? And you think of this one? What? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:37 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I's how we started working together. Yeah. That demanded, well, I know how does that come Bula
Starting point is 00:23:48 and you think of this one, of course. I don't know, I was too. Sarah and I had not really worked together. She had asked me to write a live sketch with her and we had a lot of fun. It didn't go and had some like technical problems that drew us and it didn't. I'd meet that I'd meet that I got two into like,
Starting point is 00:24:04 you know, when you have a lot of physical things going on in a sketch that like I don't know I just like forgot to say my line because I was like I have to throw a bunch of in the sketch I had a throw a bunch of birds at someone Yeah, it's Like you do live birds, but yeah, like everybody like my birds real birds like stop seagulls, right? Sarah worked with That one's that's hilarious look a big seagull here But Sarah had done like those updates with the please don't destroy guys and with solace and yeah
Starting point is 00:24:42 And had been working a lot with them their They're hilarious. And then we worked on that together and had a good time. And then meatballs started because I was reading that that children's books scary stories to tell in the dark to my daughter. And it had this this like the famous story about the girl with a green ribbon about her net around her neck. And they take it off and her head falls off or whatever. And I was thinking about like doing something with that, but that would be fun if instead of her head falling off, it's like something totally different. And then
Starting point is 00:25:13 yeah, this kind of went... There's a meatball for the audience at home. There's a meatball living on her neck at the talks with a face. And she's on a date. Actually, the funniest thing to me is Sarah, and then whole schedule is how normal you're trying to act on the date. You know how hard that was for you, by the way? Yes, that's why it's funny to me. You're like, why?
Starting point is 00:25:34 To keep in such a nice date with a gentleman caller, I'm like, who is this person? And then he's flirting with you, and then he asks you to immediately, he goes, what's that green ribbon and then you hear music come up? Like eerie music and you're like, oh, I was hoping you wouldn't notice. And then you pull it off and there's a meatball and you're like, I hope this doesn't ruin anything with us. And he's like, no, well, yeah, it's weird.
Starting point is 00:26:00 And then then you have like 11 meatballs on your body. It's played out so nicely, because I watched it twice because I'm really sort of fascinated by it. And of course you and Chris played it so real, which was great. And then the escalation, by the time you get to the piano under the armpit,
Starting point is 00:26:17 like it kept, it was paced so beautifully, like okay, they've got one, people. And then the catching us of all the singing over each other, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And you all the singing over each other, you know, you had the throw up, I don't know what we're getting the whole schedule, but it doesn't matter. And then, and then how do you finish it? And then you have the twist with the kiss. Don't want to give it away. So it's like, it's kind of what I call it sort of a perfect sketch.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Yeah. We just landed perfectly right on air. I mean, with the pre tapes and- I'm really ticklish. So when they were gluing the meatballs in my armpit, it was like, it was like a blonde animal torture. I know how to not be tickled. My doctor just told me last week, just a regular physical. If someone's tickling you on an arm, put your hand on their hand. And that stops the tickling. on an arm put your hand on their hand and That stops the tickling
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's the fear of doing it yourself somehow and he's was tickling me and then I put my hand on his hand And it didn't tickle anymore. We try to educate her tickling you. Well, that's It was a double appointment with some tendinoon we got bored It was no it was a tickle fight. We were both doing it. Well, because he's doing the thing cough, cough, he's grabbing my back, breathe this and that, reaching for lymph nodes. I'm like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, he goes, that's what happened. It wasn't a list. No matter how much you wanted it to be in David.
Starting point is 00:27:39 My doctor laughs and he goes, oh, my God, you have cancer. I mean, you have cancer. It's worse when he's, he's better when he's laughing. It sounds like it's hysterical. You know, so you did that, which I knew I was guessing Bulu was involved in that. Well, Bulu wrote that was all Bulu. We had not really worked together much and he called me and he was like, I have this good sketch idea.
Starting point is 00:28:03 I was like, oh, I think I said a good sketch idea. Yeah, I was nervous about it. No, you said great. You said, if you said you don't say no now, I'm picking up the phone and calling my lawyer right now. Just yes or no, you got two seconds. What you said, I mean, I don't know what it is, I mean. It kind of, once you saw people in the meatball,
Starting point is 00:28:22 prosthetic or whatever, or how they're keyed in, you must have started going, okay. That's really fucking funny Yeah, it felt good like I remember at the table read it was so you know It's so musical and I had all these overlapping things and I was nervous about like whenever you do music stuff at the table It's always you got a hose to us to learn 40 things And then you're trying to teach them a song and hoping you're gonna remember you know you do Oscars, Isaac. Yeah, for Oscar Isaac. What is Oscar Isaac in? Why don't I know that? He's in Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah, you don't have to lean all the way into the camera with that. She creates her own close-up. That's brilliant. Listen. Oh, you got me. Oh, you got me. Oh, that's one of those. How did that song build? Did you write that overlapping on a keyboard and I did like a full demo of it that night on like Tuesday night, probably like three o'clock in the morning where I do all these parts. And then yeah, I taught the cast how to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:20 She's a story through you had to try to tell them. Yeah, I kind of kind of, they kind of nailed it. I read through what you do go over the piano. Is there still a piano in read the room? Eli was playing piano. Yeah, I don't, I don't. She don't, but you're like, Eli, I just have so much going on right now. Can you just cover this part? I have to deal with the cast deal. Yeah, but the music all synced up. But yeah, when we saw the prosthetics, it was awesome. Who's saying it's a lot who's the last woman to sing in the Army pit? Yeah, early XCX.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Charlie XCX. Oh, yeah, she was saying it. The musical guest. The musical guest, you got her face singing beautifully. I love you to everybody. Publicist. Hey, does she want to stick her face in the giant meatball? I love you. Check it out on YouTube. We have a lot of publicists. Hey, does she want to stick her face in the giant meatball? I mean, just run it by or at least in the publicists.
Starting point is 00:30:11 I think she's just so overwhelmed this week. It's probably not the week. Any other week she would do it. You're going to be in the armpit on this one. It's a good spot. What? This is the mic drop of that sketch. It's a closer.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Yeah. Also, what about the babies in the crib, Dana? Do you see that? I don't know if I got that one far, which one? It's a one when I was in the road with these. Okay. Let's break that down. I was so, so it's basically, was Selena Gomez the first time?
Starting point is 00:30:41 Yeah. So Selena was a host who's great. And then she's got a baby monitor, but she's trying to have a, I love me explaining it. She's having a couple people over while she's babysitting, right? Sarah, you just tell me. Yeah, no, I'm not. Are you off the book? Do you remember? Yeah, I am. And then she goes, and she has a monitor out there in here. And she goes, oh, and then they look at it and it's a really funny visual of two babies in a crib with like a, not a black light, but you know,
Starting point is 00:31:11 that like a night vision with the white eyes of two little bald babies and a crib and they're kind of rolling around and then and she goes, they're fine and then they keep getting noise here and every time you cut, I don't realize it's a whole another set and they're live. It's Sarah. And who else is it, Boen? And Boen. Yeah, Dress. Yeah, so fucking funny though.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Well, I had a baby, congratulations. And, Masha. Sure. And he showed me that he could like on his phone, like you could, he has like a baby monitor app. Or whatever on his phone, he could see the little kid like rolling around. Like a monitor app or whatever on his phone. He's a little kid like a ring app. Yeah. Yeah, and so we were so then I was like, okay, that's a stitch.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And it was fun because people all to like play with scale really crazy. So like make me emboin look like two little bald babies. We had to build a giant crib with giant teddy bears to make us look tiny. Yeah, that's really funny. Yeah, because I didn't get that that I thought was a pre tape and then you went on the road, you said, oh yeah, no, we're in the other sketch and no wonder when's laughing
Starting point is 00:32:14 so hard because you're over there acting ridiculous. And then you're rolling around and they go, oh, they're doing this now and then you're like doing some results and jumping out doing stuff that babies can't really do. And hilarious. But we had two sets. So there was like the set that, oh, there's a whole other set. Yeah. So Selena was like one set, which is like a living room. And then on home base, we had this giant crib that was like, oh, you know, to make them look proper baby size.
Starting point is 00:32:40 But as you're cutting back and forth, like Sarah and Bowen would run out of the crib and like break down or like acro bats would like come in and do like flips and then run out and Sarah and Bowen would go back in. So it was like when the camera was off, we would or Sarah would run out and a full size, Sarah dummy would go in and Bowen would be swinging around. Yeah, I think it was Selena saying, hey, we can have some beers. It's all good. They go, I think you should go check on these kids and they'd be doing something so ridiculous. She goes, no, we can have some beers. It's all good. And they go, I think you should go check on these kids
Starting point is 00:33:05 and they'd be doing something so ridiculous. She goes, no, no, they're fine. And then there was like another kid in there. Yeah, a post-molone. Yeah, they're like, hey, there's someone else. There's another baby in there. She's like, oh, there shouldn't be. But no real reactions.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And then a post-molone, gaga, or whatever. Yeah, I guess. We did, we did another installment of it. I guess this year where it was like the two babies on a sonogram. And so we have like, Sessley as the gyno with the little like, whatever sonogram wand. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Oh, right, right. OK. So I was trying to me and bowin' like inside the womb. Where did you, what was that set? It was like a whole, that entire thing was like a full green screen circle. And the floor was green and everything. So we were able to make it look like an ultrasound.
Starting point is 00:34:01 And then same thing, they were like bringing in props where they're on pogo sticks and stuff. They ran out and we had break dancers come in and then same thing, they would like bringing in props where they're on Pogo sticks and stuff, they ran out and we had break dancers come in and it's always nuts. Yeah, I do like that, because you don't know what's every time you cut to, there's gonna better be another cut to you. So, do you guys, I mean, this is,
Starting point is 00:34:16 this is what Lauren Michaels would probably call, it's fresh. There's been elements of this sort of style of comedy you guys are doing, but you're accelerating it. It seems very fresh. It's new, it's what the kids love. So are you, it feels really fun to write for this kind of comedy visual with giant effects
Starting point is 00:34:42 and props? Are you, I think you guys are more focused on that because I have a couple ideas for the rest of the season. Well, I just like incredible shrinking stuff. Like what if Lauren, you accidentally for real shrink Lauren, he's like six inches tall, he still has this Lauren genius brain. It doesn't matter that I'm tiny,
Starting point is 00:35:06 I still can run the show. He's always getting stepped on by cast members. I don't know. This is, yeah, it's like Ant-Man. Well, I love visual comedy where if the sound broke, you would still love the bit. I love that, you know. Ant-producer.
Starting point is 00:35:24 I saw Molly, I saw a lot of Molly last week. Which she what she difficult to work with Molly Shannon. She's so difficult. Really, one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life. Yes, human niceness. 10.0. Physical. You know, I was bummed, Dana, that she wasn't at the Mark Twain Adam Sandler And then she wasn't at the Mark Twain Adam Sandler fond fest because she is so great and she's such a great speaker. What are you pointing at, Sarah? Did you miss me? Well, I think in that context, I did miss you because I always do.
Starting point is 00:35:59 But I think Molly is so good at speaking better than most of us that she's so lovely about it and selfless. And then they're self-bish me. So it's good balance. So, but she was at the spillover party that was two weeks before that we talked about once. By the way, Sarah, just so you know, sorry, Dave. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:20 I liked it in a rub. David has been talking about you on and off for months and singing your praises. See Sarah see even though I you think when you when you just whole interview it's over you're going to walk out and light up your sig and go he said I bombed on a sandwich to it. That's all I heard. And I didn't say that. I said you're too smart for half of my because you they have to get into your comedy. And then once they did then they fall all the way in but when you're doing different stuff it's not served on a platter you know you have to think of a little bit so I was watching the side and you're
Starting point is 00:36:55 bombing with me too but that's because I'm not smart I don't get it so later it's only 10 minutes right then Adam does three. You guys guys in the back waiting or something. I know he destroys. He walks on stage and flexes cigarette. I mean, go spade. Keep it to six tonight. I'm like six minutes. Not super star. I'm pocket. Nive. Man, I'm a wallet. Dan was in on that one. No, but Dana, we do the show, Sarah. My real question is, how did you handle the midnight dinner after the show? I don't know how Dan does. What, what midnight dinner? I'll have to move the seats on the road.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Oh, and would they add up Sandler? Yeah, you guys go out to dinner, right? No, only times I've been on the road, there's just like that's a barbecue backstage that everyone like hoax down and then they leave. Horks. No, that one I think. Not horks. Bullah taught me about horking.
Starting point is 00:37:53 That's a whole thing. Horking's when you spit, isn't it? You hork up a lugi? No, I think that's hot. That's hot. Hork up a lugi. No, I think. I wrote in a sketch once, somebody's horking down something
Starting point is 00:38:04 like a farm animal. And Sarah was like, what is that? Is that hork horking down something like a farm animal. And Sarah was like, what is that? Is that horking down asparagus like a farm animal? Oh, I like that. For my sketch that never's all the right of that. That's a reed through trick or should I ever go trick? Because if someone laughs at the description, he goes trick. Now, that's not a real laugh.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Don't count what you can laugh about. That's a real laugh. Have you guys ever shocked each other? Were like, you pitch something to the other one, the other one, go slow down man, come on, that's too far. I don't think so. Or is there are no limits? It's whether you can get it on the show, right?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Is there been anything I've pitched to that you're like, no way? I don't think so. In terms of, I don't think she's ever pitched something with that, it like makes me feel like, I don't think so. In terms of, I don't think she's ever posted something that makes me feel like, oh, no, I would never do that. I think we do. We do really think, we are trying to write for the show always. Maybe you think it's not comedically might not work. Yeah, for sure. Or it might not be like, the host doesn't have a big enough part, or not sure if it's producible on a week
Starting point is 00:39:06 or things like that, but. You know what, I, stuff will happen while I'll, I'll just say something that I think, I'm just pitching it to like get energy going, and I won't even think anything of it. Like with the eyes, replace, like I'm like, what if it's a sketch where I got my eyes replaced with googly eyes, and I was just saying like, what if it's a sketch where I got my eyes replaced
Starting point is 00:39:25 with googly eyes? And I was just saying it, thinking it wasn't possible. But you then bullet starts like all of a sudden, like he'll just start riffing and a whole sketch will get creative. But it's like, I kind of said it like I was kidding, but you were like, oh, that's a legitimate sketch. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It's hard to tell what idea is going to kind of, well, do you go to make up and say, if makeup can do it, we should try to do it. If not, let's not waste our time, right? Well, Louis in makeup will make anything happen. It seems that they have do anything. Yeah, that's true. They never want to turn down anything. They want to, yeah, really try it because they get bored too.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Totally. And he, I mean, he is unbelievable. Talk about like a superstar. He, like, yeah, he's never once told us it's not possible. He'll push it further every time. It's awesome. And could we get his full name? Sorry. I don't think I've met him. Louis. Zacharian, he's the makeup of HECK Scott, and he's so awesome. Yeah. The roller coaster, we did a sketch like that. I get stuck on a roller coaster for 100 hours and so my face is like blown out.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Like my hair is blown backwards and my mouth is blown permanently open. Right. And so like on a Monday. so like on a Monday, on a Monday I was like, I said to Louie, I put that like dentist, what do you call like a mouth speculum? Yeah, it opens your mouth.
Starting point is 00:40:54 And there's something. Yeah, so I said to Louie, I'm like, is it possible to build a prosthetic that blows my mouth open? But like the speculum you use at the dentist has this like plastic bar that goes under your chin. So like, you know, as a press, I ask and I'm like, is there a prosthetic
Starting point is 00:41:13 you can build that doesn't have these extra plastic bits so it can look like it's like part of my face. Right. And so we like pitched it to him like on a Monday and he's like, like he's just like, we wrote a sketch around him being able to build a mouth prosthetic that were, you know what I mean? And is he at read through? Yeah, are those guys at read through? Aren't all the departments? So it sounds, I don't know, just maybe as a jealous X-Cast. I love the world you're working and
Starting point is 00:41:42 it just seems really fun. Not easy, but really fun. These big visual elements and having the subversive dialogue or whatever you're doing with it to get it not just a visual joke. I love it. I want a host now or guest spot so I can be in something with Sarah and Dan will write it with us. I couldn't I just come out for one sketch. Anytime the next five years, I still look pretty good. I mean, come on. I'm pretty good. I still look pretty good. Dana looks really good.
Starting point is 00:42:11 But it sounds like so much fun. And I had a connection with Bonnie and Terry Turner and also with Robert Smigel and specific and others, Al Franken politically and Jim Downey. So it's very nice. It's a kind of communication, a friendship you guys must have of having this similar sense of humor and sensibility. It's kind of magic, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:42:33 When you find someone like that, I'm sure there's others you're connecting with on the show, but Smogel and I would just, I'd come in and start doing Regis, and he would immediately start picking it up and we just start going. So with you guys, was there a moment, or kind of like holy shit, like Bob moment,
Starting point is 00:42:48 we're gonna be friends, we're gonna write a lot together, or just sort of happened. When Bulla called me and was like, oh, I have this meatballs idea, I was like, oh my god, I feel seen, you know, because the show is scary, because it's, you know, it's a live show and for a million people, of course it's scary. And, you know, I went from doing like crazy, like performance
Starting point is 00:43:13 art comedy to like doing that work television comedy. And like, so it's, it was a scary kind of transition for me a little bit. And so, like, the second, like, like, Bolo was like, what, you know, what about this crazy thing? I was like, oh my God. You know, whatever. I'm like, not explaining that well.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Thinking out of the box, yeah, for sure. It's different. Writing is really hard. Writing takes so much intellectual and emotional energy. It's exhausting. So, just, we've all experienced a great writer handing us something, you now have it with Dan.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And it's like, okay, that's awesome. So the writer's jealous though, Dana, do you think? That they're like, can I borrow him? Well, Dan, do you have any, do you like to be on camera? Have you done performing yourself? For me, I used to always like, when I came up, I was in Chicago doing scotch comedy and improv and did all that.
Starting point is 00:44:08 And then when I moved to Los Angeles was still doing that. Now I don't really, I mean, I'll perform with Sandler on the road and be on stage with him and do all that. And he always puts me in movies and stuff. And I love it. I like that. But really, I don't, it's not like I'm sitting here
Starting point is 00:44:24 with aspirations to be a cast member at SNL or anything. Were you kind of successful just out, right out of high school or something? Have you just had kind of a lot of success throughout your career? Really, I mean, when I, out of college, I didn't really know what I was doing. I was working as a sports writer and Chicago and my friend John Greenberg who got me jobs working for the Associated Press and covering the Chicago Bulls and all the professional teams there. He was like, let's take, I'm going to take a writing class at Second City, do you want to do it?
Starting point is 00:44:55 And I was like, sure. And then really fell in love with doing that. And yeah, I don't know, but I was like in LA with nothing going on when Sandler like did you grow up middle class or what was your home life like? grew up in grew up outside Chicago. Where did Sandler find you though? You know, he had just signed his first Netflix deal and and was looking for movie ideas. So I had like a movie I had like a meeting set up with him to pitch something. And then he was also looking for music for a benefit he was doing or something. And I sent him a demo for a song.
Starting point is 00:45:37 He really liked it. And we met up and really hit it off and then just kept talking and I kept sending him songs. And we just... I heard you wrote this song called Oyes, where it goes like this. Oh yes and I kept sending him songs. And we just, I heard you wrote the song called Oh, yes, where it goes like this. Oh, yes, oh, yes, oh, yes. Not that I don't remember that one.
Starting point is 00:45:52 And that was it. And you go, do I need to keep going? What must be fun writing with Sandler and music with Sandler? Yeah, because he loves it so much and it's so great at it. He's the best to work with. And he truly would like, I mean, I was living in a crappy apartment with my wife in L.A. and wasn't working professionally and comedy at all and totally scooped me up and saved my ass. I still talk to him, I mean, I talk to him for half an hour this morning on the phone. He's the greatest. I owe him everything. So at the Mark Twain, we all gave our props. He's just such a unique guy.
Starting point is 00:46:28 You know, and to know him is to love him. Anyway, so Dan, so now that you've gotten Dan, Dan has a good disposition and a good temperament. So I think it's good when you're a performer, you're a little crazed. I know I am Sarah's a little bit Adam. I hide so much the roasties from the world. I this was just survival instincts for my childhood to be this guy. Yeah, he's a calming presence. So I think he takes it in like a machine and takes in the ideas and sort of puts them back. But Adam, I think from what I see, we'll want to write after the show, write on the plane, write at at breakfast right like anytime he never stops Yeah, and he's just always driven so you got to be ready
Starting point is 00:47:09 I see Dan beat up on the road because he's going to sound checks Then you know you're traveling in style, but you're still traveling. It's different times on it's freezing I think we're in green. We're in green zone with South Carolina. That's an I started feeling crappy and then That might be that might have been the spare ribs, a horknight, I think, because we usually go straight to dinner from the show and it's a three hours show. And then you go straight to a dinner and I didn't see Dan over the corner slumping going,
Starting point is 00:47:36 okay, we got to get up and fly to another city and just start over. And I get to sleep a little more, you know, everyone gets a little more of a breather, but he's, they beat him up, you know, still performing and you got to perform for two hours out there. Could you be a road monster, Sarah? Yeah, I was just gonna ask you about,
Starting point is 00:47:53 Oh, what? Would you be a road monster if the people, the 10%ers go, Sarah, we can book you every night for the next six months. Do you want to do it? I mean, or would you temper that a little bit? Or do you like it? I will go anywhere, everywhere all the time. Perseverance to it right now, right? Yeah, yeah. On the hiatus, as I do a lot of shows too. But I wanted to sing dance praises for a second one more time. Please, please do.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Okay, so like, you know, we were just talking about, because, you know, you're talking about dance temperament and like, you know, good attitude or ever. And so we're doing all these crazy sketches where it's like crazy production and like the sketch where I have boobly eyes for eyes, they had to like, so I'm basically, I'm fully blind because there's boobly eyes over my eyes. And in order to give me like any vision at all, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 00:48:45 I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 00:48:53 I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like,
Starting point is 00:49:01 I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to be like, I'm going to style. And I'm so I'm getting like literally put into this like jigsaw torture goggle helmet before going on live television like totally wicking out so scared and I'm like in the makeup chair just like spiraling and then I just feel Bola like right behind me. I like sneak up behind me and go like,
Starting point is 00:49:25 you got a buddy, you're a ruckus that. You got, you know, like, he's really good at that. Like, it's like, you know, or like the roller coaster schedule they taped up my mouth, like they had to spray my mouth and teeth with water. So that my throat wouldn't dry out during the sketch. And like bullet just comes up behind me and the makeup turn is like, you got to put it in your back.
Starting point is 00:49:49 You know, like, it's over in 10 minutes. I like that. Can I just say three minutes ago, I thought you were referring to me, David, when you said Dan, Dan's temperament. So I responded to it thinking you were mentioning you do have a good temperate. But I do think Dan has a very relaxing nice presence. Well, I mean Sarah also sees how I am fully crazy intense to I like we are rewriting things a million times. I'm never willing to accept it when it's like 90% on the way there. So I'm not the easiest person to work with.
Starting point is 00:50:22 except that when it's like 90% on the way there. So I'm not the easiest person to work with. But Sarah's worked with, I mean, everybody here loves working with Sarah. She worked with the, please don't destroy guys. A team two. First of all, they've had some big hits, like the Six Flags thing was awesome. And like, it was really funny.
Starting point is 00:50:37 So she's and Celeste, like we talked about. And I mean, across the board, people love working with Sarah. I've worked with, you know, when I started out, I was working with Stephen Castillo, another writer here, and then I worked a lot with Pete. But I think when Sarah and I really started, when we started sharing an office and working really closely together,
Starting point is 00:50:55 it's like Lauren always says, you know, like you find your people here eventually at the show. And I know that was true for you guys, and there's comfort in knowing like, okay, we're going to come up with something. We know how to talk to each other. We know how we have a shorthand together. And that's really helpful. Helps you get through a week after week. And you're both there tough, tenacious. I mean, if Sarah has the overcomer stage fright and land it and not have it affect the performance, I don't see that at all, but the fact that you can control those nerves.
Starting point is 00:51:27 And then Dan is a tenacious writer. That's what you need, all that tenacity and toughness. But it's very sweet. That's why I'll take away from this podcast. He comes up behind you and he says, you're a rock star. For a performer, that's great. But he got this, you're rock star.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Baby, it's always the same thing, right? Baby, you got, what is, you got this? It was with me at dinner. He goes, you can hork this. He whispered behind me. It looks like 30 ribs, but you can do this. John Levin will do the opposite though. Before I'd go out really nervous on the soundset,
Starting point is 00:51:58 he goes, you're gonna destroy. You're going to kill. I go, John don't send jinx for a comedian. Yeah, he's trying to jinx you. Don't ever say you're going to, you know, you're all to try them. Dana, I have another question for up. I know they got a big day. We'll let you see their Dan or Sarah. You know, once for Sarah. Okay. It's such as a screenwriter on Jack
Starting point is 00:52:21 asked forever. That's so interesting. How crazy. Where do they find you for that? Cause I used to, I wrote with Eric Andre a lot for like the Eric Andre show and Eric knew that I was like a huge Jackass fan. And so when they were like looking for writers just like pitch ideas for the movie, Eric was like a make a wish
Starting point is 00:52:45 He was like come on. Let's get Sarah in there like make her day. She has to be Johnny Knoxville How fun and you're like they go and what do my balls do in this sketch and you're like well I showed up to the writer I Worked for like six hours. I was so excited that I showed up to the like pitch day with like drawings and diagrams of like crazy stunts and I was like, okay, that's cool. No, that is cool. That's where he thought out. I love it. I would love it. We have Johnny on this podcast. Remember what happened to him?
Starting point is 00:53:20 It was like he had a number two pencil up his thing for two years. Johnny, yeah, yeah. And he said it was a smile and he's totally relaxed. I'm like, what? He's like, I have to pee out of my mouth now. We're like, why? What happened? He's like, oh, it's such a long story. That's all.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Yeah. I put my head in a meat grinder, but it was a really funny sketch and we kept it in. Anyway, I hope they're safe. That thing thing boy. You ran track in high school, Sarah, because I did too. Did you really run track? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And what was your event? The mile? The mile. Whoa. Were you a champion? I was like pretty good. Wow, were you a champion? I was like pretty good. I like, I was like a little over,
Starting point is 00:54:11 I think it was like 5, 30 mile or something like that. That's good, that's very good. Yeah, but I think being, I don't know if you feel this way, but like being a high school athlete, I think somehow I got like ruthlessly competitive or something for a house. I think that's like helped here. Yeah, I'm always psychotically competitive.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Dennis Miller and I would talk about it because he would sometimes, Carvey, I had shot and froi for you, okay? Which is a German word for taking joy in your friends' failures. And I go, Dennis, I have everybody. I mean, it's just like the rubber hammer on your knee. It's a reflex, the little kid inside you, reflex, you don't actively sabotage your peers,
Starting point is 00:55:00 but you want to beat them. And that's just the way the human brain works. But yeah, I mean, when you want to beat them. And that's just the way the human brain works. But yeah, I mean, I, what, when you got into comedy, did you feel like, okay, now I'm a sub five-minute myler? I mean, like, I've now where I really belong. You know, that feeling, like, maybe I, I'm going to do this anyway. I had like, I, I always wanted to be a comedian, like since I was like a little kid. And like, it was like one of those things where I like, it was so dramatic.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I like quit the track team to like go be a tree in the school play. And like, you know what I mean? Like, I think I just, I happen to be good at running, but I was like, I don't care if that'll help pay for college I want to go have zero lines in the course of the musical. Your parents are like running is gonna pay for your college Oh your daughter's on Saturday night live. That's great. She was a really good runner I don't know what she gave it up
Starting point is 00:56:02 Do you think you can be more in a race? And like not a mile, but like a a hundred yard dash. Honestly, no, he could beat me at anything. I was the mile and the two mile and whoops, the three mile. Oh, Dana, I heard Dana, I wouldn't keep asking me to tell you or to ask you that you won something running. I was okay, but there were better guys in front of me. And once I figured I can't beat those guys,
Starting point is 00:56:29 we had a 4-10 mileer on our team. Oh, God. And it was kinda like, oh, okay, I see what that is. So I was running 4-27, whoops, how'd that come out? But I was like in eighth place. Wow. I was in tenth play, you know, because that was the running boom back then. But there's one
Starting point is 00:56:47 that I have. That's like being at SNL, like you're the great runner and everyone's, you're like the 10th funniest guy. But I just want to do these quickly, because we have it just a few more minutes. And you guys have to get, I wish I had a better pitch than your head goes giant or something. I got one. You know what I say? You're going to have a date with a guy. You're going to be for a date. Yeah, he's really nice.
Starting point is 00:57:10 He's this. He's that, but he can't keep it in his pants. Oh, really? What do you mean? So he comes in for the date and he literally can't get out of his pants. And then you introduce a product called a hooter clamp, which it goes around like a chastity belt for guys who cannot keep it in their pants. Okay, I'm getting incredible team smiling. This is so flattering.
Starting point is 00:57:35 He can't keep it in his pants and Dan, there's a song there. He's a nice guy. He makes a lot of money, but he can't keep it in his pants. That brings in the hooter clamp. Anyway, just a, just a thought. That's yours, Ron. Do you go, uh, before we go, do you do a Lauren impression? Everyone seems to have either one word or one thing.
Starting point is 00:57:58 And Lauren loves it. We love him. Right. I don't and I wouldn't dare. You're allowed, Sarah. Well, our just not derogatory. It's mostly about his giant brain. I guess mine is for the listeners at home. They're going to be disappointed, but it's, but it like this. What is, what is it? Just hair slips, chin down, eyes up, sort of a knowing glance. That looks more flirty.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I do, one of my lorns is the motorboat, lorn. When lorn is making a really good point and you accidentally interrupt him, it's that thing of like, you know, when people, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, it goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I was during dress rehearsal, you're under the bleachers sitting as a writer. If you wrote the sketch, you're under the bleachers sitting next to Lorne while he's watching it and he gives notes and gives thoughts. On a big television. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 And I had a sketch once that absolutely bombed and like I'm sitting there sweating bullets. It was when I was really new and gets absolutely zero, absolute death. And at the end, I'm just dying to get out of there. He's not saying anything the whole time. And at the end, he just turns to me and he says, they'd be drinking white wine, not red because it was like a brunch.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And I'm like, this is a sketch that has no, he can't, that's the only thing he can think of to say other than like, like, this is a sketch that has no, he can't, that's the only thing he can think of to say other than like, well, this has zero. Yeah. You're like, we don't, I don't think we need to worry about what the wine is as we're cutting. Oh, you know, we just, it's 50 years almost and it's an amazing personality to hold the show the same.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Like David and I talking you guys, obviously, we know what it smells like there. We know the elevators. We know walking into 8H on a Thursday. We're like the show's Saturday. You know, it's like, it's really fun to talk to people currently doing what we did. We've had a lot of alumni, but you are currently in there. So we'd like to bring you back in another month and just call it pitch hour. And we just try to get data. I just try to get stuff on the show through you.
Starting point is 01:00:48 And we don't even need a credit. But look, I call you Bula. I think I call you the wrong name this whole time. That's all right. Everybody in the Santa World World calls me Bula. Everybody here calls me Bula. Look at that. Who's that?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Ah, can you see that? Who was that David's Bay? Amen, Brooks. That's Adam's first album. I got a picture. Okay, favorite, where you go? Favorite movie all time. Just blink or movie that you'll watch again and again. It's not my favorite movie. Okay, but you'll watch it. But I was telling full of this for some reason I've seen Scorsese Kate Fear Okay, and I rewatch it over and over again because for some reason it comes for me even though it's one of the most Drainian
Starting point is 01:01:39 Brilliant brilliant film brilliant Dan That's so great. I know I couch it cuz best is I go like a movie you will see There's as a no an ulterior way to think of it alternative. Yeah, this might be my film Body the body doubles at Melanie Griffith. Wow How about body heat anybody body heat pretty good, right? right yes body heat is good I remember When I was little I wanted to watch the movie heat and my mom brought home body heat from Sarah you do Good voice I have a great I think
Starting point is 01:02:21 I have to say, good voice. I have a great, I think, grating awful, boys, that, um, when I was very interesting. Yes, and all, I think, well, my problem at work that I'm working on is that I scream too loud. As you quietly say that, you go, I scream too, you just catch yourself. I was noticing how nicely articulate in your volume
Starting point is 01:02:43 was up because it's a rock and roll. It's not jazz. A lot of times SNL there's ambient noise and less you're in the cold opening, which is eerie by yourself. Five seconds and that Everything's quiet. But throughout the show there's movement and noise. So you kind of have to project more ways than one Dan, Dan That the learning curve is that because from stand standup, you think you have to, you know, I'm performing in like a back of a bar in a barbecue restaurant over a football game. So I know a room performing extra screen. Yeah, spend there in the cowboy bars, the hunky-taw show,
Starting point is 01:03:20 sure dick. And then a beer comes by your head. Those are terrific nights. I enjoyed meeting you both so much. And Dan, now I know the, I have a comprehensive view of you. Yeah. So I hope I wasn't a dick at the. Oh, no, no, no. I don't. Give me a D chord, bitch. No, we had a friend was dodging people to ask him to help with their, there's 80 comics you have to speak. And he's like, Dan, who didn't ask you me? You did not ask me. I didn't ask for help from Dan, even though we were all shitting, but I want to be the, I actually said the day, but I'm like, you're one of the only people here who didn't ask me. And he said, yeah, I went to Jim Downey. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Did I go to down? no, you know what? Downey, Dennis Miller gave me a joke that got cut. I did the shortest, Dana, and I got four jokes cut. How embarrassing. Wasn't I the shortest? They cut out my Trump and my Dennis, right? Oh yeah, you had Dennis in there. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. Dennis Smell. Well, everyone got hacked. They cut 90 minutes out of that. I don't care I'm glad sand man was happy. He was happy is laughing I mean you can't get any better now It's like after a while to embarrassing like every show is like we're working on another thing about Adam
Starting point is 01:04:35 How gradi is like got it. Oh quickly Sarah. Oh forget it all right Great okay, every quiet Let me do my David's freedom. Oh great great. Okay, every quiet Okay, oh sorry, I have to take this my Rolex was calling hello Are you plotting your own? Thank you Sarah that was nice David Selfie on the road too. Wouldn't that fun? Sorry, remember that yeah? Yeah, I said, come on, dude, let me wear the big roller. I'm going to get together with Dan, you know, behind the scenes over the months and say to Adam,
Starting point is 01:05:12 so yeah, I'll just open for you and then do an hour of just singing and dancing and can't do everything. Now, yeah, there's no way Adam Adam can find the way. Oh, Sandman rules the day. And I love the way he does it stand up. I just feel so relaxing, you know, I might see on another one, Dan. I'm trying to get out there again with you guys. I told him I'm getting there, but I'm sure I'm nice to see you. I'll see you guys later.
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