Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - SUPERFLY #61 - Tommy Boy Turns 30!

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

David and Dana talk flying and crime before being joined by Tommy Boy director Peter Segal to reminisce about Farley and the film. Finally the guys get into the headlines -- accidental text messages, secret underground cities, and Stephen A. Smith vs. LeBron James. BetMGM.com/fly  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This episode of Superfly is presented by O'Reilly Auto Parts. The professional parts people at O'Reilly Auto Parts are your one-stop shop for all things auto. Do it yourself. You can find what you need in their store or online at OReillyAuto.com. Everyone I know is on the road. They always are like, we stayed in Airbnb and that's just a more common thing you hear all the time. Hotels are great, but come on. I mean, when you can just pick everything about it you want, like here's my hotel today. Theyels are great, but come on. I mean, when you can just pick everything about it you want. Like here's my hotel today, they didn't even give me my breakfast.

Like Airbnb, wake up, whip it up in your kitchen. Yeah, and get a kitchen, get a pool, whatever you want, and it's all custom, and you just go online, and you see how it's rated, and what people like. And so I guess I'm gonna say it's just freedom. Yeah, listen, you got more space, more privacy. You can be closer to where you wanna be. Yeah, I was staying at really nice hotels that I like

in this area that we would go to. And then we found like a little house. So you kind of had a house, you know? And it was spotless and you just drive up and you get the key out of this thing. You go in and there's a bottle of wine and a note. And it's just a great experience. Yeah, the people don't have to, I don't think,

but they always seem to put little extras in there for you. For your next adventure, people listening, maybe give it a try. They won't regret it. You make the switch from traditional hotels and let us know. Superfly. I'm gonna zhuzh up the background soon, everyone.

Just so you know, it's not gonna be, it might be green, but I'm gonna put some stuff up. You know, I should put a shelf, put some cool things. And, well. Cause when I watch a podcast, I'm really looking at the background. We both have the literally worst ones, but. Well, I have the most benign, it'sign. It looks like a set of nothingness.

There is nothing. It would be better if it was a fake green screen of just that. I just got this one. Yes. At one point, I just go like this and it's a part of a curtain. We'll get to your carvy sign to match my spade one back there. Okay. Maybe I'll put my tour dates. Oh, yeah. Tour dates. Tour dates. And, uh, maybe I'll put my tour dates.

Oh yeah. Tour dates, tour dates, DavidSpade.com. Where am I going? Yell out cities. Boston, New Jersey. Boston. You don't do it because it's easy to do it because it's hard. Boston. Next. Des Moines is almost sold out. Des Moines is- Might have to add a show in Des Moines. I don't know if we're gonna add one. I played the county fair there. Hold on. De Moines. Might have to add a show in De Moines. I don't know if we're gonna add one. I played the county fair there. You know, I don't like adding shows. I like to just do it, fill it up,

and then just come back on the next round and do it again. Right, they add one and then you have that second show where it's a little sparse and it's kind of a wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah. Yeah, sometimes they fill it up second. Meh, wah, wah, wah, wah like a second one. So I'm doing ABQ Albuquerque.

Albuquerque, okay. Portland has done a lot. 5,000 feet. And Portland has love. I've been there the most, but they always have a good crowd. They always show up. What is it? The Albert Schneidser Theater?

I think it's the Albert Schneidser. I played that years ago. Yeah, I never forgot the name. I could never pronounce it, but the Albert Schneitzner. Arlene Schnitzer. Arlene Schnitzer Theater. Something like that. That's why the audiences are good,

because their expectations are so low going in there with a name like that. Schnitzer, oh, Omaha? Omaha. Gets a shout out. Try to get some new insurance when you're out at Omaha. It's a shout out. Try to get some new insurance when you're out at Omaha. That's it.

Try to get some stakes. That's the health insurance capital of the world. They must've been so stoked when Peyton Manning was like, Omaha, Omaha. Remember that? Peyton Manning, football player doing audibles. Omaha, Omaha, Omaha. Give me some of your week before we get into the hard hitting stories. Uh, went to LA flew.

My wife and I flew to sun Valley. I'm not the happiest flyer, but it was, it was nice. It was one of those kind of smaller planes, maybe a 40 cedar. I don't know how Kevin Nealon would have done in this thing. I mean, I hit my head constantly. Just, oh, you hit your head and Kevin Nealon would have done in this thing. I mean, I hit my head constantly. Just, oh, you hit your head and Kevin Nealon's. I'm hitting my head.

I'm land of the giants in this thing. And then if you come into Sun Valley, I'm kind of like, okay, it's it's kind of tight. We're going to make a turn. I'm not really. I look out and it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what? I mean, it literally I couldn't exaggerate how close the mountains were. Have you ever flown in there? You could count. I always think, do you guys know what you're doing?

Well, I found out later and I'm not saying the airline or whatever, the flight attend said, well, just, they probably don't want me to tell you, but they have to have special training to be able to fly into Sun Valley. So you get extra training. So they get in some simulator. So we got shit box hills on both sides. We'll try to snake through. That's right, Clem. Pass.

Dude, terrifying. It's like Aspen is a little scary. So it's 6,000 feet. You feel a little funny, you know, unless you hydrate. So- Oh, you get sick at altitude. I do the gig. I do three or four meet and greets.

Mix and mingle is different than a meet and greet. Grip it and rip it. What is it called? A grab and grip or something? A grip and grin. Grip and grin. It's fine. It's part of the thing.

Everyone's incredibly nice. Everyone is all ruddy faced and they look like they're about to- Ruddy faced. Well, they're just sort of, they're in puffer jackets and boots tucked in and they're ready to ski. It's like a nice area, am I crazy? It's gorgeous, it's gorgeous.

And we had, the flight was until five and we stayed there, we weren't really thinking about anything. So we'll pick you up at three, 15 minutes to noon. They say, hello, this is the front desk. We need you out by noon. We need you out in 15 minutes. We've got stuff scattered.

Audio room. Yeah, get out. I go, oh. Get fucked. What do I, get out now? I mean, stuff was, we were ready to gather it up, but then our contact person bought us two hours so we could get out at two. So we went down to have lunch.

And I don't want to exaggerate how mellow this waiter was, but he literally, he took our order and he's about seven feet away. So I'm about to fly. So I'm like, could I have a beer? And he goes, uh, huh, huh. No, he didn't even say yes. He just, I, about, I don't know, gummies or just so mellowed out to gummies. He's like, uh, what kind? I go, I don't know, Stella, uh, I'll check.

So then 10 minutes later it comes back, we don't have that. Well, I'll take anything. What do you got? You got this? He goes, let me go check. So he's gone another 10 minutes. He comes back and he's like, I go, do you have like Coors Light or something?

I think so. So anyway, it took 40 minutes, but he's a very nice guy. Yeah, he was mellow. Yeah. I did a flight where, two things that bother me now. One is, Good.

Do you ever get the window shade? Doesn't go down, you need a ball peen hammer. I'm like, It's like, to put it up, plus it's my weakling neck, I'm like, trying to, you know, military it straight up, and then, deesh, deesh, deesh, and then. Deesh, deesh, deesh. For that, you know, because it just goes up

like a quarter inch every time. Like, I can't spend this much effort and energy just to be blinded by the glare. And then the pilot does this bullshit. I don't know if you noticed this. You get on and you're just sitting there and they go, well, we got everybody on. We're about to push off.

Just waiting for a little bit of paperwork from the flight attend. I'm like, paperwork? Are we, do you have a briefcase? Who has physical paperwork? He's like, we're just waiting for a Xerox copy of a couple things. And then, is anyone out there of a printer?

I mean, what are we talking about? Does anyone email you anything? Yeah, Jesus, you're gonna be fuffling with envelopes when you're gonna be getting on the joystick to get us vertical, okay? Yeah, you gotta collate some documents first. I mean, I'll tell you, yeah. Who comes in like a mechanic?

Like if you could just initial here, press hard for copies. Oh, they do sometimes they have to sign off on the plane and the guys, the technicians are coming in and out. They got big orange jackets on. They're coming out of the cockpit and they're shaking their heads. And we had some technical issues and it is just that some idiot in the back couldn't get the window up. It's usually like a tiny thing. Like it's a beverage cart and has a stray wheel. But here's two things. I didn't want to be a silly senior. During the flight, it's like,

okay, you press a button and then the thing comes over the tray. And so this particular plane I'd never been on, you know, you press the button and it folds out from inside and then you have a tray. So everything that easy. No, but everything I tried, the trade didn't come out, but I said, I didn't want to ask for help. Okay. I'll press down here. Press here. So flight attendant, 27, right out of Utah state. All right, let me get that for you, sir. Press the button. Boom. So the other one that bugged me and that you remind me is he goes, well, we have, it's a one,

one plane in one plane out. So we're going to have to wait a little bit. Um, let's something happens. It's a flight attendant set. Take your seats. There's a, there's, we can, we can go now. You know, so everything is a little intense. Just take a time. Relax. I can, we got a window. Let's go. I really should have. Exactly. Yeah. We're fourth in the lineup here, we got a window. Let's go. Everybody shut up. Exactly. We're fourth in the lineup here, but if everybody sees this. So anyway.

No, fuck they moved us. Go, go, go, go. Scramble. Oh, go, go. Yeah. One guy goes, we were going to wait an hour. We get to go now. I'm like, we were gonna wait an hour?

I didn't know that. So I did my rodeo shtick to make, cause the flight at 10, I could shake her hand. That's how small the plane was. So I did my rodeo schtick to make, cause the flight at 10, I could shake her hand. That's how small the plane was. So I did my rodeo star, I'll go back here on an airplane. So I loosened the seatbelt as far as I can. I grabbed the edge of it and I say to her, rodeo guy on an airplane.

And I go like this. And you zip it tighter though. I zip it super tight as if he's gone a horse. You know, if you had to go. Yeah, that's good. I saw that. Yeah. So she loved it. I saw that. Yeah, so she loved it. I saw that live when we flew to our gig. I did it, yeah, I do.

I have plain shtick. You got some shtick. We got some solid shtick. I don't have any more great stories, but oh, should we introduce Pete? We'll talk about Tommy Boy anniversary real quick. Oh yeah, the one last thing, our car got robbed at LAX. Oh, wait a second. This is a headline. Well, last thing, our car got robbed at LAX. Oh, wait a second.

This is a headline. Well, we decided, fuck it. Let's go old school. We had a lot of time. All right. Let's drive the, let's drive the airport, man. So horrible. LAX.

So first of all, it's like, is it fucking east, west, north or south? So we're, we're fun. We're suddenly make going around a roundabout. We're heading away from the airport. Yeah, you stupid idiots. That's where the control tower is, and it's getting smaller. So let's go with you.

And then we get up on top, we park the car, and when we come back to the car, we know, what the fuck? So it looks like ramshackle inside. So we opened it up, they did. I had a mini iPad there. They didn't take it. What they did was they left a big red canvas bag in the front seat. Left it. Left it.

And I did just fucking clue. She said, I know we go. We went down there for prints and we saw the uh, you know, whatever airport police people, there's no way they're going to bust anyone. They were smoking weed down by the machine. Yeah, man. I mean, so anyway, um, we got rid of the red canvas bag and we got out of there, but that was strange.

And we know why it happened because it was my wife's car. My car, if you walk away at locks her car, you have to put your hand on the handle. So I went back for something and long story short, we made it home safely. And now we're here now. Well, I like these. You know, things that happen in real life, that's a tough one. I would get so infuriated if that happened. It gets it gets a weird feeling.

Like someone got into our car and was shuffling through it, trying to get stuff. Someone fucked with you. It feels like bullying, feels like shit. And of course no one does anything. And then they, if you go to the police, they go, and LA of course, like, you know what you should do is put a cage under your car so people can't get under and get your catalytic converter. You know what else you should do is you should put more locks. I'm like, how about throw criminals in jail? They're like, no, that's how we draw the line.

We have a plan. We're working on it, but right now we don't really, that's not our thing. Yeah. The criminals in jail, the fucking good guys being the victim. It's like the good guys are the ones they go after. I don't know. Because I just saw an England, was one of our stories coming up is like, you know it's bad when everyone's carrying a machete. And now, you know, they're carrying a lot of machetes.

Now machetes are illegal to carry around the streets. When was that okay? If I saw someone with a machete, I'd shit my pants. And so many people are walking with machetes to rob people and hack people on the streets that they go, okay, it was fun for a while, but x-nay on the machetes. So isn't that crazy?

The machete, the name of it and the strength of it, it's a fucking sword. You're walking around with a sword. You can behead someone in a second. I knew someone, Francis Cronin, he was in the Irish army in the UN in Africa. Francis. And when you would talk, he'd go into the town

and you'd talk to townspeople. Most of the time the dudes had a machete just in their hand, just just sort of just walking around. It would make me um a little uh give me anxiety. Yeah. Because what are you doing with a machete? Even a knife is bad but a machete means real biz like I'm up to really no good. What I would do is have a fully loaded bazooka and just be holding that and just chatting like, you know, I don't know, partly cloudy tomorrow. I'm not sure what's up, but do the sound effects of a bazooka going off. You rack it in there.

No, it would be. It would be louder than that. Slow motion. Just a reverb from the thing. The kick. It's that. And then it comes in. But dude, machete, you don't have to be a pro.

You just start swinging that thing and you're gonna cause some damage. I know. So I'm glad that England's come to their senses. Okay, when we come back from this Pete Siegel interview, I'm going to show the stories about Machete, just to show it's not made up. Okay. So Pete Siegel, my director from Tommy Boy,

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which I don't like to say what anniversary it is, but it's a lot. It's a while back, but. Number three. And we have the director. Well, it didn't take long. The director of the movie is actually talking with us. Yes, this is Pete Siegel who had a huge hand

in making Tommy Boy hit. Thanks for coming on. Thank you for having me. Yes, we are excited to have you. The funny thing about Tommy Boy is I keep reading different stories about it because, you know, it's the anniversary so more things pop out you and I probably are in charge of some of these stories but there's

just so many I wanted you to tell Dana first and then we'll get into you just saying anything you want about it was when you got hired that the hiring process because I remember it got a little sticky. Well, I had worked with Farley twice before Tommy Boy, once on an HBO special I did with Judd Apatow, and then on a sitcom, The Jackie Thomas Show, which was a loose spin-off of Roseanne. I just knew him from those things and I just thought, gosh, if I ever got to direct a movie,

I would love to do his first starring role. Then about a year later, I get this script on my desk. I had then gone on to make my first movie, Naked Gun, the last one, and got this script called Billy the Third, a Midwestern. I didn't really know anything about the process. I've learned a lot over the years since then

how that script got to me. And I said to Lauren, I said, I've got a lot of notes because I love these guys, but the story is kind of wonky. And he said, we're just going to tell the Turner's what you think. And he said, we're just, you know, going and tell the Turners what you think. And I said, do I hold back? He goes, no, no, just go in. Pretty good. The writers, the Turners.

So I went in and just, you know, guns a blazing, notes, notes, notes. And they looked at me, blank expressions and was bye bye. And I left and that was it. And then I thought, okay, well, I guess I blew that one. Weeks went by, weeks and weeks. And I get this, and I think I checked with my agent, hey, have they hired anybody yet? Oh, they're still looking.

I'm like, okay, yeah, maybe some other people are feeling the same way. So I get a call then from Sherry. She said, I want you to come back in and tell me everything that you told Terry and Bonnie. I wanna hear it myself. The head of Paramount, sorry. Wow, Sherry Lansing.

So I thought, uh-oh, I feel like I'm on the causeway. I'm all alone. So I went in, I hit that hallway, that long hallway to her office, and the door opened like she knew I was coming and just arms out, honey. And I, you know, the hook line and sinker, they were in. Well, they were also desperate. They had, you know, blown the hiatus.

They desperately needed someone to come on. Right. So, so that's how I got it. That was part one. This is a long story. So I'll just. I like when it gets a little ugly. The timeframe is the hiatus because of is the summer height is messing out.

Yeah. So there's a time problem. We have a window and we blew that window. And what that means is now Dave and Chris are going to be having to fly back and forth doing Saturday night live and shooting a movie in Toronto at the same time. Oh, right. This is bad.

They could do it. You know, and it made the movie more expensive too, because it, you know, what could have taken, you know, 30 days was now going to take 45 days because we only shot three days a week with the guys. And did you stay in Toronto and just chill and maybe try to do pickup shots or anything you could without us? Yeah, I remember one time, you know, with Farley especially, no one could double him, you know,

so he had to do all his own stunts because he was a better athlete than any of the stunt guys his size. But one day I had to shoot a shot of Tommy Callahan walking away from the funeral down this row of beautiful fall foliage and I used his double. Chris hated it because he said, that's not how I walk. No more of that. I'm going to do every single shot.

I'm like, okay. Well, then we're just here and wait. Who was this guy? Danny? Remember his stuntman. I think he used him a lot. I don't know. Mine was Danny.

His was probably a great stuntman by the way. Yeah, great stuntman. The walking is a good inside baseball thing to talk about because actors get very particular about that. Yeah. Well, the first time I went to I think Chris was new to the show went to an SNL party. We're out on the sidewalk. hey lady, whatever he does. And then he just jumps up in the air and just flies on his back on the cement. You know, so this guy was a stunt.

I mean, who's going to double off for you? He could really throw his body around, obviously. And he probably got hurt quite a bit. Well Dave, you tell them about the two by four. The two by four at the dinosaur place? Yeah. Prehistoric forest? Yeah. Well, you know, I don't really remember this except remembering on the day of they take it, they score it, they take a two by four, part of it's supposed to break easy and it's made of balsa wood maybe. Yeah, with like a little rubber padding on one edge.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what it is Dana, so, but I'm supposed to hit him in the face. We start a fight, which is a funny scene. We have this huge fight, but he sticks his head out to get hit. And of course it's not an exact science, but I swing. And I think, I don't know if it didn't break or did break,

but Pete you might know more, but I definitely hurt him a little bit on those because even if you get hit by an egg carton, empty, it still hurts if someone's swinging at you. Try not to hurt the guy, but it's almost impossible. They didn't have it perfected. You finished that one. No, I think you hit him with the hard part of the two by four and yes, it broke and he went down and you know, uh, that that must've stung.

He wasn't happy. Well, he, he, he was very good at taking hits and also I, no one else knows how hard he's getting hit. You know, you can't tell. at taking hits and also I, no one else knows how hard he's getting hit. You know, you can't tell. And that was obviously a problem and, um, but he just gets up. So, uh, probably stage five concussion should have been chopper out of there. But when he, he doesn't want to show any weakness and he wants to show he's a pro and he wants to always get hit and fall down and, and show that, look, this

doesn't bother me. And that's a pro, but it's also tough because these days there's probably more scrutiny on it. But we're running sort of ragtag mission out there and we didn't really know. I don't think Pete knew. We just, it just, you go back and I think, remember one time when the coat didn't rip

when he was doing Fat Guy and Lacote and he's going, he's screaming, because I saw this on some out takes lately. They made it too tight and he's trying to rip it. It's really hard to rip a regular coat without being scored and cut in the back. So he's screaming and he gets mad because he's like putting everything into it, every take.

That's the hard part. No rips. Could I, I just have a question going back a little bit because I want you as a director and just in the broad strokes without laying claim, but just what was the besides whatever the story was, the first draft, cause you got, you know, the first draft people just kind of throw it out there. What was your, besides the specific notes, what was missing and what did you capture?

Cause obviously the movie is now a classic comedy. I mean, it's the movie. And so can you remember like the core things you were trying to figure out with that script? Yes. Originally, I think Lauren had pitched the show. Obviously this was a vehicle for Dave and Chris, but the story had a lot of the Rob

Lowe character in it, and he was a lot more integral in that story. As a matter of fact, it was more about them being stepbrothers. I thought, I don't think that's the story. I think the story is about the two guys who do not get along at Callahan, who have to work together and save the factory and save the town. And I also thought that there was, you know, another story between a father and son. And I knew that that was very important to Chris because he had a very close relationship

with his dad. And so those two things unraveled, you know, what we had in the first draft from the Turners. And then- Who are great writers, by the first draft from the Turners. And then... Who are great writers, by the way. They're great writers. They're great writers. I just had a different take. And then Lauren said, okay, I'm going to send you out, you know, some help.

And he sent out Jim Downey and Fred Wolf. And Downey came out. He had apparently just fallen in some poison ivy. And he was... Fallen into a vat of poison? His face was caked with calamine lotion, but like dried up kind of feeling. And he came out with... Good look. For like a week, we had lunches and stories.

And then after a week, I was starting to panic because this was the week that the script was gonna be saved. You mean you're just talking but nothing's being written? That's how Downey writes. He talks about everything else in the back of his giant brain, things are happening. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then finally on Friday,

they were gonna catch a plane to go back to New York. I said, so what about this? And I held up the script. He goes, oh, that's, I can't help you with that. I can't. I can't. He was there for a week. Fucking downy, I love it.

I remembered walking, you know, in the parking lot at Paramount. And I told Fred, I said, dude, you guys are my lifesaver. That was a swing and a miss. I'm out. And so I quit. So you quit. Oh, listen to this. Oh yeah. And so I quit. So you quit. Oh, listen to this.

Oh yeah. And this is Fred Wolf now. Yo, I was telling Fred, cause you know, he's my pal. I knew him from before this. Hey, you're really good. That's really funny. No, seriously-

I'm gonna tell you something Pete, I'm gonna talk about Dana in a minute, but I wanna talk to you. Hey Pete, no seriously, PD, I know you love Fred. Go ahead. So you quit. I quit on a Friday and on a Sunday, you want it ugly, Dave?

Yeah, I'll give you ugly. So I heard I get phone rings and my wife answers it and then she covers it and says, it's Sherry. Jerry Lansing and apparently this wasn't the first time that she used this method but she said, I have a team of attorneys speeding to the studio right now to strategize how to sue you for tens of millions of dollars and to take your home from you. And I said, have you seen my home?

Have you been to the home? It's on wheels. You can just pull it. I said, checkmate. Fine. I'll go. But this is going to be a disaster. And she said, honey, I know you're going to make it great.

And I have to say, you know, she, you know, all these years later, uh, she was, uh, so responsible for helping us keep this thing together. And here we are talking about it 30 years later, I credit her. It seemed like it was a natural thing because of the history of like Laurel and Hardy and sort of Chris, which we can talk about more about being sort of quintessential

as far as a big comedian and throwing his body around. And then David and them being at that very close friends, the chemistry, you know, it's the comedy team. It's Wayne and Garth, it's Abbot Costello. So I think focusing on that obviously worked beautifully. And you had Rob Lowe and you had the other stuff, but yeah. And Brian Dennehy got that in. Brian Dennehy is so solid. Bo Derek, great in the movie. But you know, the interesting thing is, so solid. Bo Derek, great in the movie. But you know, the interesting thing is, Chris was obviously

hilarious on his own. But, you know, Dave, you were the engine, you know, to that machine of the two of you, you had to be, you know, you would pitch and he would hit, and he would knock it out of the park, but those balls wouldn't be flying anywhere if it wasn't for you getting under his skin, you know, and getting that out of him, you know. Yeah, I appreciate that. I mean, you know, those kind of movies, it is obviously could not be done without Chris. I think there's people that could have played my part, but it was, I lucked into it and it was really fun to figure it out as we went and all of us up there and just taking a movie about brake pads, you know, trying to make it funny because that's the original movie.

Two losers with a dream or it's just always a likable motif for a comedy film. They're on their adventure. They're trying to make it, you know, and, but the likability is huge. Dana, when, you know, we're doing it out of sequence, obviously we're flying back and forth. I'm getting skinnier, he's getting fatter. That's probably true. We both feel sick and tired, and the whole time. And so when it's all over, we know that scenes are funny,

but we don't know how the movie's gonna be. You know, that's the problem with shooting out of sequence, which if people know that's pretty much every single movie, you could shoot the finale the first day. You don't really even know what your characters are like or you're not really jelled into it, but that's the hard part. So it's up to Pete to put it together.

And so Pete and also Bill Kerr, the editor, but Pete's putting together these driving shots, add some music, just makes it all make sense. And the way he shot it, we can't tell because I don't know if we had playback back then. We did, but yeah. Maybe we weren't the ones to watch play. But you know what I mean? It was sort of up to Pete. But the point is he made it all flow, added so much more. So when you see it, yes, it's funny performances,

but everybody cannot, there's so many people that cannot drop the ball. The editor can't, Pete can't, we can't. And if you get it all right, you know, you've been in a couple of those that when it works, it's so hard to get it right. Directors medium and landing the pathos on the boat at the end. That's unique where it doesn't come off forced, it really comes off like, whoa, that hits you. Well, we had, when we started filming, only 66 pages. Because-

Oh yeah, I think I remember that. We started over, that's- A little wispy. A little light and a little ophish. That's just so we can start. We have a really have to have a fake reason to go. Exactly. Shoot something while

they're writing or whatever. Yeah. So the fact that you guys read SNL gave Fred and me extra time to work on the script. And so as we were going, it was so exhausting because of this pressure of, you know, laying the train tracks out in front of

the locomotive every day that we did not know how the story was going to end. I had no idea. And then Fred came up with a miracle scene, the scene where the guys are walking with Dan Aykroyd in the factory and the test dummies and all that. And that came in and suddenly I thought, oh, okay, I see how the story can end, but how can we wrap this up emotionally? I always had this idea of Tommy talking to the spirit of his father up in this water tower that we built,

never actually used in the movie. It was corny and it didn't work, you know what I was thinking. And so we're kind of stuck on like, we called in this writer named Len Blum, who had written Stripes. Stripes. And I said, dude, I don't know how to end this movie

emotionally. And he said, let me take a look at the footage. And he saw the sailboat scene earlier after the funeral. And he said, well, why don't you just revisit that? And that's where he can be talking to the spirit of his father. And the answer will be the funeral. And he said, well, why don't you just revisit that? And that's where he can be talking to the spirit of his father and the answer will be the wind. Tearjerker. No, it landed.

That was it. Yeah. Well, I just, this inside baseball, people would like it. Like when you first assembled and you do a test screening and you get cards back, what was the first test screening like? What was the range of the scores? I think the highest score we got was an 82.

So we started in the seventies. But one thing, you know, cause I had just come from Naked Gun and the Zucker brothers learned from the Marx brothers who rehearsed all of their movies in dinner theaters so that by the time they got to the set their material was tight and they knew what worked in front of a crowd and what didn't that saved them. What the Zuckers did is they started recording the audiences sound wise so that if you

say well that got a big laugh and then you know David if you were there said that got kind of a medium well let's go to the tape. It was in period. But then what we did, I had just been given a Sony Handycam for Christmas, and it had that night vision. And so I said, hey, I got an idea. Why don't we hide this under the screen and so we can see the crowd,

and that'll help us shape the movie. That was the first time night vision was ever used. Interesting. And now it's standard. Okay, so you see the crowd, That was the first time night vision was ever used. Interesting. And now it's standard. Okay, so you see the crowd, you see the laughs, and then you're going to do a re-edit based on? If they don't laugh, you cut it out. You know? And then if you see them shifting in their seats, they're bored. Look at what are we doing that's going slowly here. You know, that... And what was David Spade's biggest laugh of the movie?

You know Pete, I have to say that if I can remember back those old screenings, I think maybe the one that tested the highest was the deer smashing the car and us watching. Maybe. But over time, it is not the number one thing that is brought up. And what is? I mean there's a, you know what happens over time when people see it five, ten, twenty times? It's throwaway jokes. Yeah. That they remember. I mean from Stripes, from all these old movies you picture. Scared jokes. It's a Cinderella story

and Caddyshack and just throwaway lines. But I think there was maybe Fat Guy in a Little Coat, obviously people still are aware of. One of my favorites was caught from you guys, and Fred and I were just like desperate to write down anything that you guys did funny in your interaction. Farley comes out of a wardrobe test in his suit, the iconic brown tweet. And he said, David, does this suit make me look fat? And you fire back. No,

your face does. I'm like, that's going in. Yeah, that's what that's how we just leave. We heard about this thing he would do at SNL fat guy in a little coat. Okay, we'll put that in. But he he never sung it. You know, um, yeah, that was a good one. One thing that happened in the boredom of making a movie, because you and Chris were used to live TV, one take, three cameras, done. Yes.

Suddenly we're doing multiple takes, multiple angles, and it would get boring. But in that boredom, so I shoot Fat Guy Little Coat, I shoot Chris's side, done. I turn around because we only had one camera, we were low budget, turn around, I'm getting Dave, and I's side, done. I turn around, because we only had one camera, we were low budget, turn around, I'm getting Dave, and I thought we were done.

That night, Bill Kerr, our editor, calls me and he says, oh my God, you gotta go back and reshoot this. I'm like, what are you talking about? You didn't hear Farley off camera. He started singing it and getting all goofy. Like, did? He goes, yeah, look at the dailies. So I looked at him and sure enough,

we turned around the next day and re-shot it. Because Chris was talking and singing while David- He was bored so he just starts fucking around, right? Well, his sound was messed up and he was just bored and didn't know how movies were made, like his sound. Got it. Well, I think he was just doing it, not even to get, just like bored.

And then it sounded actually funnier. I remember, I saw an outtake recently, that I don't remember of course, where we're in bed at the hotel and he talks out to Lensky and I go, well, me and then Chris starts hysterically laughing and I try to hold the take because maybe you use that one but when people laugh it's funny but sometimes you can't use it.

But if you wait a hair longer sometimes you can't use it. But if you wait a hair longer, you can cut away after. But he laughs and he goes, what a fucking dick. Because I don't know, I guess it was the same thing, just giving it a different reading because of just we've done it too many times, you know, that kind of thing. Sometimes things happen. That is the thing about film is you're supposed to not, the crew's not supposed to laugh and no one's supposed to laugh.

And so there's this dinner table tension at Thanksgiving where you're not so, where someone's saying the Lord's Prayer and so you're laughing. So there's that tension there that does create kind of fun moments. I remember seeing one of the, another outtake I'd forgotten about was

we shot most of what was Callahan in some abandoned post office and it had holes in the roof and birds would get in and birds would start chirping like crazy having a fight in the middle of takes and Chris could not hold it together because he just put me up at the birds on the set. Did you know, I remember there was some scuttlebutt about Bodare cutting her hair, is that not true? I don't remember that. She had long hair from, obviously everyone knows from the movie 10.

And she was doing a different movie and she came right to the set and she had short hair. I don't think anyone knew. And we didn't know, I don't know if it was an issue or not. I think everyone was just surprised. I don't, yeah, it kind of rings a bell. And I just heard an interview she was doing just a couple of days ago, where she said she was not even shooting another movie,

she was doing another business in Asia. And she came and got a phone call and was on the set the next day coming out of the pool in a bikini. Oh yeah, yeah, I think I did hear that. And then she said, she said, well, I must have been replacing someone. And I said, I don't think we had anybody.

I don't remember. We were just so disorganized. Disorganized, yeah. We were just hiring someone the next day. So the first time I met her, she comes out and they have to show the wardrobe to the director and she comes out in a robe and she goes, what are you doing? Yes, they do. So she opens up her robe and the first thing I'm looking at is both Derek from Ten showing

me this bikini on her. I just stared straight at her eyes and said, fine, that's fine. Fine. Could not be more lovely. She was such a sweetheart and such a great, another addition, you don't really talk about a lot, but she was so good to have in there

because people loved her. I think you said she was the biggest star in the movie, right? Well, you know, like- She'd just come off of 10, yeah? Yeah. And we had come off of nothing. Also, was there, remember these old outtakes

that I think Skippy had that they are somewhere, maybe I have now, by the way, Pete gifted me with Skippy. When he comes to the door during housekeeping, and I think you said do one with undies on, one with maybe a robe, and then one with nothing. Yes. Right? Just to have it. And then I did tell him, and whatever you do, for the love of God, do not turn around. Well, of course that's all Chris needed to hear. So he turned around and started flailing around his wiener,

just dancing straight into the camera. And I just said, this film will be burned. It will not. He said, hi Sherry. I think you mentioned that. hi Sherry. I think you mentioned that. Hi Sherry. Yeah, I don't think those ever got out any fun outtakes that I see on Instagram. Do you feel, I tell you, I felt spoiled coming from SNL with Dana and these guys, just on

a writing level and performing level. And then I go to Tommy Boy and then I've done, you know, some things in life I really love and some things that are a little tougher, you know, but don't you feel spoiled when you get on a set and it's not like that and you're like, Oh my God, this is going to be tough. Yeah. I mean, you know, people say because that movie is, is so well remembered, you must have had a blast making it. It wasn't fun making it. Wasn't that fun? Movies aren't fun to make. If you tell me it's a hit, if you,

I'll give you a hint. This will be a big tip for everybody. If you tell me it's a huge hit ahead of time, it will help a lot. But the fact that you don't know any bad ones are just as hard to make as the good ones. Yeah. That's the unfair part. Yeah. Yes. You know, you worked all this, you did all this work and it, and it makes your career worse. Yeah. That doesn't make sense. No. And sometimes when things are going too well, I start to not trust it. And then I get into a weird mood that, oh, everyone's so nice. Everything's so great. Everything's so funny. This movie is going to tank. Yeah. You never know.

Well, I don't know if people understand this. Like, what was your longest day? Because on low budget films, sometimes you got to go with gold. Oh, I know that one. All right. I mean, because people, that's why you don't even know if it's English. It's 24 hours. How long? I think I just saw, I just saw Pete on the set of Busboys and I, did I ask you this? That the factory, I think we did almost 24 hours. Is that possible?

Close? It was definitely. Because we went day to night and then we shot overnight until like 6 in the morning. In the high teens, did you say? It had to be. Yeah. Wayne's World had a couple of those. Were you say? Yeah. It had to be. Wayne's World had a couple of those. Were you like?

I think we only had it for, and we flew in on a weird thing like a, you know, after the SNL after party, and then we start Sunday morning and then we only have it for Sunday, but we go late, but they open Monday morning. So I think it was one of those where we all remember things differently, but I just remember that was, I think we had a lot of cast in it. We had a couple of stunts and all that stuff just slows everything down. That was a long one, but I think the most painful one was cow tipping because it was a night shoot in the cold of the great white North.

And I don't know, my God, it must've been zero degrees. And Chris had to dive in the mud under a cow. And- Where were you? Yeah, and the sun was coming up. If you look hard, you'll see right over his head, when he comes up with the mud mask, that you see the sun starting to rise,

that we were just running out of time. Yeah, do you remember the coldest day? I'll tell you this, Dana. Dana's glazing over, but here's the coldest day. Not at all. I'm just cold right now. This is a riveting reveal. I would say, Pete, because it started getting cold and then it got cold fast. Spade from Arizona was not ready and not loving it. I would say probably in my estimation, we're standing by a billboard yelling about the

bees to the cops and then we're going, oh my God, Zelensky. I think we'd loop some of it because I couldn't formulate the words because my jaw was frozen. Well, what are we looking at? I'll see your cold and raise it on a movie I did. We only have light clothes on. Were you in Canada or? Toronto. Toronto.

Okay. Yeah. My movie took place in Ontario. Something like that. We were minus 30 Celsius in me, Nicholas Cage, and not Celsius. Oh, paradise. Yeah. Trapped in paradise with John.

And we just fell down in the snow. It was all night shoots. A lot of frostbite. We were wrapped up like the mummy and then they take it off and they, uh, was, uh, go fans for the, for the snow, you know, so everything was going to be overdubbed, but yeah, so you guys were definitely below zero probably at night. Oh, I think we were on, we were close to that because I remember we can't keep shooting like, and night shoots on top of that, because I remember going- Probably the same. We can't keep shooting like,

and a night shoots on top of that. Like every movie I do now, we're like, let's do splits or let's do some other way. Yeah, nights are the worst. Fucking worst. Okay, well go one more day and then we gotta get Steve. It's like- Or Guy Pico.

How to put in context this movie. One thing I was gonna say, and this will be a compliment alert for my partner in crime, in comedy, is David can really, he can do the cut. You know, he can like do a kind of little, but it's always likable. It never comes with teeth.

And so all his little put downs of Chris just always never went to the other level. So that's the chemistry of the two of them. And then with Chris Farley, just thinking when you watch his, you know, guy down by the river and this movie and stuff, I just don't think we've seen another Chris Farley. There must be at one point we will. He's just a singularity in comedy in the last 30 years. And there's been brilliant people and brilliant movies,

but he's something unique about him that is sort of irreplaceable right now. I mean, right? Fellas? Absolutely. At the 50th, yes, and on 50th, I bumped into Paul Walter Hauser, who's going to be playing Chris.

Oh. Chris Farley story. And I said, look, grab a lunch. You know, I'll tell you stories. So that's going to be. Oh, he definitely should. I talked to him at one of my shows. He came and we talked about it.

He's got an uphill battle, but I said, you know, good luck to you, the guy's a good actor. Chris had that throaty, I'm just, you know, that thing, that that's really hard to you. The guy's a good actor. So just had that throaty when I'm just, you know, that thing that, that's really hard to duplicate. He put so much into that, you know, that that, that would be what I would try to advise that actor to try to get that tone and get that energy. I says, I says, I says, I says, I go, you're making that a full update? Ben, he goes, oh yeah.

He goes, I says the guy, I says the guy, I says, I says right to him, I says, I says, I says. That's his whole bit. I go, a fucking full update? He's like, yep, and it's gonna kill. And then it did. Shit, that's so funny. Well, Pete, thank you, bud.

Thank you. I will say to in this point quickly, when I'm on the bench, I don't know if it was your idea or whoever's idea, I'm kind of borderline mean to Chris, the whole movie, but when I'm on the bench and I say he's my only friend, that erases it. Dude, I just watched, there was a screening last night and exactly when that scene came up,

that was really nicely done the way you did it. It was very genuine, it was very real, and it kind of made the whole arc of your relationship with Tommy Callahan work, that scene. Yeah, it helped it make sense. The put down, the put down, the put down, the put down. Yeah, because he just feels sorry for me. It's like a song and then he's my only friend. It's just filmmaking. Well, congratulations on being the director of one of our all time classic comedies and everything else you've done.

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Conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. Okay, so that was Pete Siegel. Great talking to him. I do want to jump on that. We talked afterwards about a musical for Fat Guy and LaCote and the Tommy Boy musical. Yeah, the Tommy Boy musical. I was serious. We talked afterwards about a musical for Fat Guy in a Little Coat and the Tommy Boy musical.

Yeah, the Tommy Boy musical. I was serious. And then on Broadway, and then we could do Richard, my character, who never had a friend. And so I get to do a... Your idea was a song. Yeah, you sing a little song. It'd be so funny. I never had a friend. I walk away from Tommy on the bench and go sing. Yeah. And maybe I thought this is interesting casting. I get played by Ariana Grande and don't do anything to her. Just the way she just looks like me. Actually, she could pull her

hair back. She looks like your little sister. Just put little bangs on. Yeah. I'll tell you one thing, doing that SNL in the fall when she was host, that gal is multi-talented. I mean, she could do anything. Literally, she could probably work up an impression of you if she had to. She's had an incredible year. I have to say, I thought I was calling this early the last time she hosted, that I wanted to get word to her, so funny. And she's really good. She did Jennifer Lawrence. It was funny. Yeah. Then she goes in the thing where she sings all these different songs in the radio station. Different voices. And she's so talented and she's such a little twig and she just rips it out with a great voice

and she's cute, funny. I mean, I don't know how she does it. That's a tough, that show is tough. And I'm so tough and makes me crumble. But she, I did Jennifer Coolidge with her and Chloe. And that was fun. She had a blast. I mean, I think that people don't do sketch comedy all the time. When it's working, it's really fun.

Right. I almost want to see Wicked literally just for her because I just want to see, I don't know, nothing about Wicked, but she's good and she sings well. It's Wizard of Oz basically. Yeah. Did you know that Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man that he didn't already have? Who is that? Go. I know what it is already. I'm just saying for people listening, I'm going to give you That he didn't already have. Who is that? Go. Who is that? I know what it is already. I'm just saying for people listening,

I'm going to give you three seconds. America. That's the band America. Yeah. And that song is. And all that's left is nothing to the 10 men. I never understood that as a kid. Have you ever realized some words as a kid

you don't understand because you don't know what it means? Like they say like a phrase or something you've never heard and now you get older, you go, oh, now I get what that meant. I know I thought. Right, because you remember the movie, you had nothing. I did know he was saying Oz. That was such a clever little thing to say.

Yeah, instead of the wizard of Oz. Oz never did give nothing to the Tin Man. Like the Tin Man didn't have a heart, right? Yeah. Yeah, but they said, but he didn't already have. That he already had it, the whole thing. Yeah, he had it. The whole thing of the movie. I didn't get it heart, right? Yeah. Yeah, but they said, but he didn't already have. That he already had it the whole thing. Yeah, he had it. The whole thing of the movie.

I didn't get it, the whole movie. Anyway, so. You were too. We'll quickly show the machete story just to show it's true and then we'll move on. This was it. Ninja swords. Ninja swords. I eat machetes.

Even worse. Ninjas are the band. Ah. Geez. God damn. Okay, enough of that one. What's the next one? Give us anything. We will do anything.

I read an article I don't have a picture of, but I thought it was interesting. Lie. The divorce rate of people in their 40s and 50s has quadrupled. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. Well, this is, we'll go back to divorce rate,

but Trump officials texted attack plans to a group chat. Oh, everyone's Well, this is, we'll go back to divorce rate, but Trump officials texted attack plans to a group chat. Oh, everyone's heard of this story from a secure app. They don't want to say signal, but I'm on signal for a fantasy football chat, but it's supposed to be airtight. And this is a mess. This is something when you hear it, you kind of go, whoa, whoa, whoa, what?

Like how in the fi-yuck does that happen? And can you imagine the person that had to deliver the news to Trump? What are you saying? I don't understand. What are you saying? What are you saying? Say it again.

They fucked up, they fucked up good, they're fucking morons. What are you saying? I don't understand. What are you saying? What are you saying? What are you saying? Say it again. They fucked up. They fucked up good. They're fucking morons. I'm not going to fire them, but that's a fucking move you'd never fucking make. I mean, you know, right? I will say, if somebody screws up, Republican or Democrat, the first thing they say is, you should quit. And they always go, guys, why are we even doing this? You think I'm ever going to quit? And there's no one on either side that's ever just going to quit. They have to be literally pushed out with bulldozer. So so they don't do it. But that thing's funny because I thought it'd be funny for you

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Okay. Okay. Oh, there's, oh, this is a story. They came out last week, right? When Superfly, I didn't know enough data. Now I have even less. There's a vast underground city below Giza pyramids, which, yes, not to be confused with, I'm a geezer.

Egypt's pyramids, scientists, wild theory claims, experts debunk it. I will say it's a riveting story, if it's close to true, that they have these, you can't see, but in those infrared heat seeking, that photo above, it says, they're too specific. Now, if you can't see it and you're just going, there's a mass down there, there's something down there,

and it goes down about three football fields, that's interesting enough, but they're like, oh, and it had sparklers on it and a Christmas tree light. It's underground, you can't know all that. Right? Well, look, this is a provable thing. Right now, people said it's real. Someone is debunked.

So somebody go in there and dig them up. Let's dig them up. Then send Biden in there. Go on there and check and check to see if it's a Pachoma paratachal, the pharaoh. Look, paratactal. the pharaoh. Look. A hundred. Paratactile? What was it? Tubaku, I can't remember the famous. Tin Cup.

Just go with Tut. Tin Cup. King Tut. Tutankhamun? Tutankhamun, that guy. Remember in fourth grade, you'd study the Egyptians. Yeah, we got a lot in common. By the way, they still don't know

how the pyramids got built. So come on. Fuck dude, it's so dialed in. There's copper in there. There's things in there that make them like electrical rods for some UFO shit. I'm all in. I want a secret alien city to be there.

I honestly do. I really want a secret alien city under the pyramids. I'm scared of it. So we can kind of relax and go, we're not alone. Like, does it really matter that we're not alone, but we may not be alone? I'm a little, my conclusion is that we aren aren't alone and I'm a little relaxed about it because they could kill us so fast that at least they're not doing it.

But I had heard Roswell was lightning knocked him out of the sky and then they were like, they don't feel so hot, you know, because they crashed. They're like, everyone just be cool, nothing to see here. And there's like, oh, there's a lot to see here, dude. I know. That's them talking to the aliens. There's a lot of shenanigans with the JFK report coming out. A lot of let's keep that quiet.

A lot of shh. That so you don't have to be a conspiracy theorist to kind of ask questions like, okay. I think if any of that shit happened, even 9-11 right now, people would shoot so many holes through that so fast. Back then it was a world all through life. This is what's in school, this is what you're taught. But when people ask a few questions and it trips them up, you go, wait, it shouldn't be that hard.

Like, what's this, what's this? So it is fun to follow those stories. Some are true, some aren't, but. Oh yeah. Stephen A. Smith. There is no doubt that LeBron James is the second greatest basketball player of all time. None, no doubt, never in question.

Well, Stephen A. Smith would take a swing at LeBron. This is where it goes a little haywire. I don't think he should bring this up because when I saw him talking, he's like, obviously LeBron could pound me fine. But LeBron's like a physical specimen with the best doctors and trainers in the world. The best sense of the word. So yeah, and one's a sports reporter. So it's like,

let's take that out of the equation of who could win it up. But anytime you get in a beef with someone, there's always in the back of your mind, what if we get in a fight? Because it gets tempers flare. If LeBron put his weight behind it at his size. He could really hurt somebody. Oh yeah. Stephen A. Smith's kind of slender. I mean, he's pretty tall, but he's not LeBron. And he knows, but it's just gotten to playground stuff.

LeBron did post an image of him 10 years ago. He said he had dislocated shoulders of him boxing. And Stephen A. Smith said it was a bad look. And then he came back today with a 15 minute diatribe. Yeah, defending the whole thing. He wasn't making fun of Brawny. I mean, it just sort of, who was it, Albert Brooks, that said life is like high school with money?

You know, guys. Yeah, I mean, it's also like, there's people I don't like out there in showbiz and it's like high school. You're not going to get along with everyone. And so it's okay to do that. What the hell did they say? When I plug it.

Now, when I plug in my phone, can you hear what it says? It took a hair too long that motherfucking. Okay, I'm going to give everyone one more shot at it. Now that you cannot talk, shake the phone up. Look, there's Harper. What is that about? Okay, ready? Oh, everybody quiet. On the set, we're rolling.

Beep bop boop. That's a good one. Ha ha ha. Every time you plug it in and people aren't ready for it, they go, what is it? That's something you say. That's one of your. That's something I say and Heather told me that you can, I think her says, hey Heather, so if you plug it in, it can say something very short. And I was like, and I go, oh no, it sounds too robotic. So I go,

oh, maybe it should say something robotic. Okay. So Stephen A. Smith started about LeBron and Brawny. Well, Stephen A. Smith, I don't know the, I didn't listen to everything, just said that he- Confrontation on the court. About that. And he was just saying that he did not believe that Bronnie James, who by the way, dropped 39 this week in the G League, was ready for the NBA. So that was, you know- So yeah. So LeBron saw him at a game on the court and said, hey, to the effect of don't shit on my son. And so I get the emotionality of it and I get that side. I think this leads and we'll talk to our friend Ted Sarandos. One night only, Stephen A. Smith and LeBron

James sit down and talk it out. Then LeBron James will put on a hundred pound weighted suit and they will go three rounds with David Spade as the referee. I'm the ref? Okay. And Dan Aflarfo is the announcer. No, you're both the announcer. No, you open. I do cute, Dan. I do. You do a few up front. Sweet potatoes, sweet potatoes. Just that part of your act. And then, uh, yeah, celebrity boxing should come back. I'm just on team Brawny. I think he's in the toughest position for any young athlete. I think he's brave to do what he's doing. LeBron's being the dad and I hope in the end of the day,

Brawny becomes a good NBA player and his dad will eventually retire. You can't play to 50 in the NBA, can he? You know, let's look at a clip. What a hot take I had there. Yeah, that was a hot take. There's a Luke take. Mm hmm. All right.

Next story. Sweep a Taurus. Sweep a Taurus. Oh, I thought this was interesting. Oh, it's, it's one of of those you have to listen to it. Is it too boring? He wanted a comedian to, you know, that's what you do in big comedy movies. And Jim wanted an actor who would make him listen, who would react, who would get it. It's a

buddy buddy movie. And the studio wanted a comedian. I can't, a comedian will just try to top me and then we're into that. And that's not what this is. This is, there's a heart to this. There's these two guys. They're stupid as hell, but there's a heart to them. I got the role and I was aware that others wanted someone else, but I knew that Jim, Pete and Bobby Fairley wanted me. So we all went to Breckenridge, Colorado. It's an interesting show based story. And the first day, first morning we shot the scooter. Me and Jim driving down the mountain pass,

and I say, I gotta pee, and he says, I got this script ahead of time. That was the first morning, first day, pulling into Aspen supposedly, and the snot coming down, getting off the scooter, that was morning one. Hilarious, he stays on his back. Jim didn't work the rest of the week.

We went to the lodge, we did the chairlift on the pole with the tongue on the pole. Didn't work the whole week. Why, because he was broken? We did the week. We went to the lodge, we did the chairlift on the pole with the tongue on the pole. Didn't work the whole week. Why, because he was broken? We did the watch. Sitting there getting pulled on. I didn't figure it out either. We did.

Going into the ski lodge, crashing the skis. Funny, funny. Physical comedy. Now we do the snowball on the head. Now we get to Thursday and Friday and Jim hasn't worked yet. And I may be in Dumb and Dumber but I'm not stupid. The audition is still going on.

I come to find out they're gonna assemble these scenes featuring me, and we're all somewhere gonna look at them over the weekend. Without listening. And somebody is on call. Somebody, who's a comedian, is waiting to hear whether he's gonna go do the movie or not. Mr. James Carey. But you could feel it.

Welcome to Hollywood. Maybe I'm being paranoid. I don't know. Okay. I wait Sunday. I get the call. See you Monday morning, 6 a.m. Huh.

Maybe I'm wrong. Going to make up Monday morning. Cliffhanger. Now we're shooting a scene with me and Jim. Jim walks into the makeup trailer, pats me on the shoulder, leans in and says, just keep doing what you're doing. They love you.

Kept walking. Jim carries a friend to this day. Okay. To this day. That's what he said. All right. That's cool. They offered me or they reached out to me to play the sidekick. For real? Yeah. That doesn't seem like a stretch.

Well, I think Jeff Daniels was great. And by the way, all those scenes that they showed were physical comedy. You know? You mean great. I didn't think of that. The tongue throws the snowball because it falls down. Throws it too hard, I think. But it worked. it worked great. He played it, you know, he's a serious actor and he hosted SNL, incredibly down to earth guy.

Lives in Michigan his whole life. And he played it, he played funny, it really worked. And with Jim Carrey is such a supernova, you wouldn't want anybody trying to, you wanted something juxtaposed to him. So it worked, I mean, it's a juxtaposed to him. So it worked. I mean, it's a classic comedy. It's great.

That's what he's saying. The studio wants a comic. He's, Jim wanted him and he's basically Jim saying, You got a tryout. We can't have two Jim Carries. We have to, and that's what would have happened. And that was his tryout. I thought that was interesting that people don't know

he had the whole week with no scenes with Jim and everyone just watching and going, then they go, is he funny? They're saying can he be funny? Yeah. And he did a good job. Yeah, he did. He was absolutely hilarious in the movie. Well Dana, you were perfectly pleasant today.

You were a lot of fun. I thought that Pete Siegel, he called you Dave and you called him Pete. I called him Peter and I call you David. I thought that was kind of interesting. But it was nice revisiting that movie and we had fun talking about everything. T-boy keeps, we had a lot of trivia in there I liked. And I'm feeling more and more positive the more I hear information from other funny people and people in the industry, not to jinx it, but this movie, Busboys. I just feel like it's the right timing for sort of what's coming out.

I'm just saying. I'm gonna look at it this weekend. I'm gonna look at it rough. And then we get to start to needle it. So I'm thinking it might be good. So I'm excited. It felt funny and we did it. So let's see.

This has been a presentation of Odyssey Superfly as executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss-Berman of Odyssey, Heather Santoro and Greg Holtzman. Hope you liked it.