Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - The Chris Farley Tribute Episode (Part 2)

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

It’s been 25 years since the great Chris Farley has passed. Join Dana and David, along with a plethora of special guests as we celebrate Chris through stories, memories, and laughter. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Tell rock, that's too funny. Rock, what's the longest set a middle act has done in your days in the clubs? You're the headliner and the middle is going, leaning into it. What's the longest set you post to do 20? Yeah. I once did. I was the middle for Larry Miller. Oh.

Oh, Larry Miller. And Larry's. I was cocky and I did probably about 35, 40. And enough to take the room. Good. And, you know, I'm good. I mean, it didn't affect him, honestly, but he definitely pulled me to the side and let me know that was not to be, you know, hey, this is not how we do it in the majors.

Yeah. And you do, yeah. But it was great. It was like a great week because he actually listened to my act and instead of just being like fuck this guy, right? And basically he had me help him write jokes for the like literally, it was a weak, Larry Miller. And I don't know, like at nine o'clock,

we wrote jokes from nine in the morning to about two in the afternoon. We went over to his acting, like he made me, he was like, okay, kid, let me put you to use. Did he have a cigar when he said that? He might just laugh,

obviously. Yeah. Well, you got a good guy right in front of you. You're on the vote is boring. And 99% of comedians don't do that. And they should. And they should. Like, he totally put me under his wing for a week.

And this is a joke. This is a premise. This is, and he would help me with my act. And then, OK, this is a tag. Yeah, you lean in too hard on this tag Yeah, but he is good. He's worth listening to one you know one of the best comics I haven't seen that guy Larry Miller Yeah, he's tight. Yeah, I had a guy do 70 as a middle and the cops comedy pub cops pub in SF in the day. I'm the headliner. 70 late show. He wouldn't stop. They did the lightness in that. It was 70 minute

middle and and he did say was that 70? He played innocent. But then he partly the whole act in defending the cave man. And so he hires other guys to do his act and he retired in the Tony sub-Burbs of Marin County. Wow. That was a first like one-man show guy. Like he did it and then he hired someone else to do his exact act. That's so interesting. He franchised a Togo sandwich.

He's the only comedian that had a franchise of a Togo sandwich shop. So then he franchised his act. Yeah, you know, anyway, enough about that. So let's get back to, okay, yeah, Chris, how are you, first of all? Yeah, for some. I'm okay.

How are you? Are you kind of tired? Are you overworked? Are you on a day off? I'm not done in a road since March. And I'm not done for lunch. I've probably done about 90 shows now, something like that. Where are you in your own head? Because I know you're going to do a live special in your own head.

Are you at eight? Are you at a nine? Are you thinking about it at 10 at times? How are you feeling about your set? I think, personally, the set, how do I explain it? The live experience is good, so I'm having really good shows. But in my shows, probably about an hour and a half, hour 40, right? I gotta get it down to an hour. So in some ways, I don't really know the special yet. Yeah, I know.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Pacing wise, what do you cut? It'll feel different. Yeah, I'm like, okay, you know what I mean? Pacing wise, what do you cut? What it'll be able to feel different? Yeah, I'm like, okay, what's the narrative of it? I mean, yeah, I could string together, you know, whatever, 50 and hour worth of good jokes. But I'm like, okay, what's the narrative?

Which the theme, like, Tamberin was your last one. Yeah, I guess, what's the kind of theme of this one? Like Beyonce. But who is it? She has a theme. It's not even like a theme. It's like who the fuck am I this year? Yeah, I got you.

You know what I mean? Yeah. That's like, yeah, who am I? Yeah. Anyway, let's talk about our buddy Chris Farley. And we're here to celebrate one of the all-time greats. And is it like a date? Is this the date that?

It's 25 years ago. This is the year he passed away. Okay. Okay. 25, I would have guessed 18. 25. I'll get you started. The only two cast member, only two people on earth that only called me lady

were you and The other Chris Chris Farley and Chris rock which I thought was so funny never said my name ever even carvee or whatever Both consistently lady lady lady lady Why you and Chris had that connection but it was so funny you still yeah I mean you were the lady and it was it was a term of end of it it was because you were yeah I you know I don't know much older are you I mean I did that I don't know this guy well enough to call him Dana. So I can say,

like in, it's like a grown man. I'm a half-chicaron man, we're chillin'. I'm a half-generation up, but I think what happened, I went on Letterman and I was ridein' high and he goes, there's a lot of new cast members coming in. And I said, you know what I say, you know what my name is?

I'm the fucking church lady, and I give him a cup of coffee with a fake cigarette. And I think you and Chris saw that and took, you know, just said, lady the whole time. Yeah. We might have, I mean, well, I remember I used to,

but sometimes it's fate. I used to watch Letterman. I used to go down there and sneak and just watch him work on his monologue and just like, because he was downstairs. Six A, I believe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I never, I like fucking idolize that guy. But, um, wasn't that great building to be in Rockford, the center? It was amazing building to be in. You and Farley got hired. You started after Schneider and I, then there was a summer and then you guys came on first. Me and Paul, we got hired the same day.

We started the same day. I guess we got hired the same night. I don't that they were doing auditions in Chicago. Okay. Did I meet for all of that night? I don't know if I met him that night. I don't think I met him until I got to 8-H. And you know, Chris and Chris. Yeah, you had that going on. We kind of had the Chris and Chris thing going on. That lasted a little bit. Good jumping off for you.

I was in Brooklyn. I was, you know, you know, life. So I'm the black guy who lives in Brooklyn. you know, life. So I'm the black guy who lives in Brooklyn, and it's like, hey, is he safe living in Brooklyn? You know, whatever. Yes. I'm the one they worried about. That's what I'm trying to get at. Really?

I was the one who was like, hmm, what's going on here? Let's, you know, and be sure he's safe. Yeah, and Chris was obviously a danger to himself He was very very spontaneous. He was the most He was Wisconsin Dundee because he would just go, David. There's a McDonnell's here and there's one in Wisconsin Like yeah, is it on wheels? No Chris and when you go to the ATM

He'd keep pulling $20 out and then we go and he goes, I have to go to the ATM again, I go, Chris, take out 200. Like, what are we doing at 20? What's 20 getting anyone? He gets to hit the fight. Because he was like just a midwest. So I mean, I'm Arizona, I'm not big time,

but I knew to take 40 out. You knew that. I knew that much. You're big time, Davey. to take 40 out. You knew that. I knew that much. You're big time, Davey. You're big time. Yeah, we were rolling around, but I was, I was flat floored by Farley. Probably the first read through. Yeah, I mean, the thing about Farley was, he was, I mean, I never felt that competition thing everybody talks about, but I, you know, I guess, you know, whatever, it was a very competitive environment, but no one was competing with Farming. Yeah, true, true. No one, he was ahead.

Even thought, you know, I made it was just like he's Michael Jordan. Yeah. And get him the ball. Like, no, definitely give him the ball. If he wanted that take the scene, he could take it. If he felt like it. And he was a nice guy. So he'd lay back sometimes. But if he wanted to go to a move that no one else has, that energy he could explode with literally never had one bit of like, had one bit of like, hey, this guy doesn't write sketches. Why is he in everything? Hey, he's like none of them. None of, why is he in nine things and I'm in one?

Cause he's better than you. That's right. Cause he should be in 10. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, remember the first, I think the first showback might have been Kyle McLaughlin because there's a twin piece thing. Kyle McLaughlin, you know Connor.

Okay, so Chris, Chris, not the night she ripped up the Pope thing, but was it before the unmemorable night? She said anything up except Spade's heart. Yeah, she was cute. After she ripped up the Pope, everyone stopped flirting with her. So she had, oh, Farley and they wrote a twin peak sketch

because obviously all summer it was a huge show. What's the angle with Kyle McLaughlin from Twin Peaks? And I think Schneider might have cracked that code of like, he, they solve the case, but they still think it's, he keeps it going, or something. But Farley was in one scene in handcuffs, and he was getting laughs, and he had really nothing to do, and that was the first time I was like,

there was nothing in read through, and then he's out there, and everyone's staring in, and he's just flipping his head back and forth, and then getting, and you're like, oh shit, I get it, something's going on here. No's just flipping his head back and forth and getting, and you're like, oh shit, I get it. Something's going on here. No one did distress better than Chris. The way he was like,

Kenis and had his rhythm, Chris had his explosive rhythm. It was, there was all method to his madness. It was extremely irresistible. He had a way of stepping into funny. Like, it was just on his shoe. He didn't know how he got there. It's just like, yeah, yeah. Ah!

Fucking guys gone. And the funny part was Chris, he was always sort of in awe of literally every other cast member. Like, just going so funny, feels so great. Oh my god. And then everyone's like, wait, you're the great one, dude. Or even Belushi. And you go, there was a point when I said, actually, I think you're better than Belushi's like, shut the fuck up. I'm like, I'm telling you, it's been long enough where

I'm starting to flip going. We're loving Belushi, of course. And I'm like, it's getting close, dude. Yeah. I mean, I'll take my guy in that fight, but yeah, my blue shoes great obviously Farley Had a warmth to him Yeah, Farley's you know unhate unhateable. He's unhateable and He's what this guy that you know, he's just He's just always himself You you know what I mean? In a good way.

You mean like, yeah, he didn't have to really, you know, get into character or anything. He was just fucking funny. You know, and you just bought that he was whoever, he was playing. Yeah, anybody. Yeah, I just play any character one line. He's getting a laugh. Um, so so so it's very. Yeah, it's yeah, I mean, yeah, sad we are friends not here, but it is curious to like, it's like, wow, what that guy have done, you know, when I see like Sandler and something like

uncut Jim, it's like, yeah, Farley, Farley could have done that. Farley could have been in, you know, he's literally that level of actor and that level of like, you just felt for that guy. You just, you know, okay, whatever that Chris Farley was gonna take me on, I was definitely ready to go on it.

Yeah, if he ever played sad in something, yeah, he would just own the audience, you know, if he went back, but the great thing is we have data now, and when you look at his best of, just Chris is Farley's best of, it's the best of the best of. You see, you know, it's like, we can look at and go, okay, those 10 sketches,

nobody has another 10 like that. So it's great that we got to see his greatness. And in Tommy Boy, I think really captured a lot of Chris. It's great that we have some data on how brilliant and lovable he was. Do you remember Rock, we there for Japanese game show? Japanese game show, I don't know if I was there for that. I think Mike Myers. Yeah, yeah.

He just played a tourist on the Japanese game show, the only one that couldn't speak Japanese. And he just kept going, I, they told me this was a different thing. I don't know I'm on a game. I shouldn't be here, my wife, and they're like, I was like, how about everyone's talking Japanese? And then they cut off

someone's finger when they get the wrong answer and he goes, oh, he's scared. Screaming. You remember that one Dana, right? Oh yeah, in massive head wound area where everyone had to do a spit tag basically at Chris, you know, again, it's just the way he turned, the way he held his body and the way he just said,

whoa, you know, it was just like boom. Right, a perfect surprise take. the way he held his body and the way he just said, whoa, you know, it was just like boom. Right. A unique version of a spit take. Yeah, that's the perfect hit it every time. Hey, you guys just have like take contests. Yeah, well, we just keep out, you know, out to the other one. Yeah, I just remember like, okay, triple take.

So, just, what the fuck is going on here? I remember like, okay, triple tape. So, okay. Just just just just just just just just just just just

just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just

just just just just just just just just just just just just just just just

just just just just to the moves, play the scales. We did a weird acting thing, not even acting for real, but there's that song by smashing pumpkins. It disarm, it goes, the killer and me is the killer and you, you know. And they say that line four times, and every time when it came on, you go, okay, you're sad, right before the line, then he goes, the killer and me,

is it gonna be emalsed, but he acts sad, then you go, now you're scared. The killer and me. So yeah, every line, then you do it to the other guy. And you yell what the next one is and they have to do it. And it sounds so stupid because it was. And, but it would kill some time at 4am. When you didn't want to write.

Yeah, yeah, I remember those games. Anything not to write. Anything not to write. Yeah. Yeah. Procrastinate for as long as you can possibly procrastinate. Oh, because that's the worst. Circle the wagon for 10 hours. Eat a lot of food. Yeah, and then pray. I remember him calling his father after every dress rehearsal. To not talk about the dress rehearsal, to talk about what we had to eat. Wow, wow, that's a funny, specific memory.

Great, then we had peas, and they had turkey like every, because I should have a dressing room with the guy. Oh, close. Up close. OK, so I had an office and a dressing room. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, well down on the, on nine or something. Yeah.

Yeah, so I had a, yeah. I, what the fuck?. Yeah. Yeah. So I had a yeah. I What the fuck? I don't know what I don't know. I had a dressing with a Whitney and Chris Farley. Wow. That is a sitcom or a movie. A Whitney was probably interesting. Oh Yes. Oh A Whitney Brown writer on on SNL. Yeah. Back in the day. Back in the day. Rock, you know, we had hard lines for the people listening and see you have a phone

you're addressing them and you can call your friends after the show. Did you see the show or whatever. And one time he was on the phone with his dad and you know, I think it's common knowledge he was scared, not scared of his dad, but his dad was a very important. Very respectful. Yeah. And he knew not to act up around him. And he's talking to him.

And then Marcy or Aaron walked by and they kicked the cord accidentally and he goes, hello, hello. And he flipped out and he goes, he's going to think I hung up on him. Oh, terrified. Terrified. I was like, sorry, just calm back. No, you don't get it. We were like, oh my God. So that was a quick window was like, sorry, just calm back. No, you don't get it. We were like, oh my God.

So that was a quick window into like, ooh, yeah. Yeah. Woo! Lot going on there. John Farley is Chris's youngest brother. And we would all hang out in the old days. And here's Johnny. Hey.

Hello. Oh boy. Chris. John. Chris. Where are you? Are we contacting Chris? Mm-hmm.

Chris, this is a weird job. I got it. Hey John. Tenants, are you driving or you're in the back seat or you're in an Uber? I got in the car, it's way too loud in the house. There's kids running everywhere. Oh God, you're giving it to kids.

They're a nightmare. Oh God, the washer and dryer, the children, ones on Zoom, I'm on Zoom too. You're on everyone. Hey, what about, I'll start with a story, Dana, that I forgot about. You guys go. Black sheep or time boy, but we can cut it if we want. But Johnny, I don't know if you remember this, you probably heard. So, Jesus. So there was a guy that was in charge of, God, I forgot his name, that was in charge of, Farley. And, and so for the movie, it was Tommy Boy.

Farley and and so for the movie it was Tommy boy every the first day He would give him a thermos full of cappuccino or express or whatever is the most the strong one and before each Each a steak Dana he would do a shot And I go Chris you have to pace this up. This is is a long scene and it was the scene where we're eating bread, or like he's ripping the bread up in front of the waitress. And we realized he's a good salesman. But it was the first scene that took a lot,

and the first day is hard, we're trying to figure it out. And he's getting so gacked out on this. And he gets so fucking mad. And then every time he, at lunch, he goes to sleep and then no one wants to wake him up because he crashes so hard. So a couple weeks into the movie, they go, Sherry Lansing's coming today. They tell me and I go, oh, she's coming today. She's here. That's the head of Paramount. Sweet lady, she's going to check on her movie. They do this once in a while on the set like Dana, probably in Wayne's world. So everyone's, you know, Sherlock's, you know,

everyone's like places everyone, you know, here comes the boss and he's sleeping. And so they go, hey, I go to somebody, go wake up Chris, I go, I'm a fucking waking up Chris. And so she comes up and she says a a couple polite things to me and then oh the daylies are fun. Hey, I got a run is Chris here. I'll say bye or say I go oh that's his trailer. So she walks over to his trailer and everyone's just staring and she's like knock knock knock Chris. And he goes get the fuck out here, you dumb cunt. I'm sleeping.

And he goes, Chris, it's Sherry Lansing. And he goes, hey, Sherry. And he cracks the door. And he's like, hey, I just took a little snoozer. And then she's like, yeah, just saying how I got to run. And then he stares around and everyone glaring on, who didn't warn me. It's so awesome. Oh my God. That was my job growing up. I had to wait Chris up down in the basement. We all all four boys were down down the basement.

Mm-hmm. And I also done a hill. We weren't like all four of you in one room. All four of us. No, we had there was like it was Kevin and I in the first room Mm-hmm. It was supposed to be Tommy and Chris in the middle room And Tommy goes get out You're a monster so Chris had to go back. There's a two rooms behind the furnish room Which was the scariest that's where the devil was? Oh, and so the furnish room not Chris's room But you had to get through the furnisher, I'm not Chris's room, but you had to get through the furnisher room

to get a- Most paranoid Catholic family in America. Oh, God, it was terrifying. Because the thing made- No, it was like how long ago long that furnace was terrifying. And so I had to go, every time I had to go to Mass or go to like dinner, I had to be the one that goes downstairs, creeps into Chris's room and toes and awake up and and then kick over

One of his mystery jars of mountain dew. I would assume it was but it didn't it smelled like pee. Yeah really hot Okay Yeah, he goes no like it's not sure he goes no Yeah, he goes no like it's not sure he goes no That you guys said it was gross. I'm like I hear it was that it's undetermined. We can't know what it was far away His room was far from the bathroom right I understand you're but anyway, so it was more McDonald's at SNL I don't know that wasn't that far I got Yeah, I got, uh, yeah, I got a couple, uh, things to talk to at me.

You had to bring a pillow with you for whatever projectiles coming at your head and then run and then go up to get to try to wake them up so gingerly. Yeah. Was it first school or church or what was your church school? All that. I go to dinner. Yeah. We usually, you know, go out to dinner on Wednesdays and Fridays. We go out to dinner and he'd be in the second. The local stay-cows. One

time Johnny, he said, uh, Chris goes, we were driving and he's in the back as kids and he goes, mom, pull over. I'm a, no, no, dad, pull over. I'm hungry. I'm starving and mom goes, Christopher, you just ate an hour ago. And his dad goes, hey, good boy. Good boy. I had to, uh, yeah, if I ordered something on the menu, you'd always hear a whisper from Christopher or Kevin or somebody, you better eat all of that. Because I was the skinny one. I could eat and just be like, I'd leave things on the plate. But they were, it was called the clean plate club. Oh, yeah He would say I remember the clean plate. I'd say that a million times. I go and off with that one

But he also oh God, oh what about the yuck bag when you would eat? No, that was I always said that's a normal thing Dana anyone You know After you eat you'd have to upchuck. All right. Listen, now we have just your standard everyday grocery bag, the paper one.

Right. And in the summertime, we'd have ears of corn. Lots of them. There's seven people in this family. You're looking at 14, two ears, each. Fourteen ears.

Tons of headaches. A couple extra down. Yeah. And there's the bone from the T-bone part, and then... The gristle. Yeah, so then my mom was like, I don't want all this crap on the table. I'm gonna take this garbage bag,

and we're gonna call it a Yuck bag. A Ducar bag. Don't ever tamper down this story. You go, yeah, it is a beautiful story. It's not really. So it's a modified grocery bag, and now it has a new deter. Yeah, so we'd all be throwing our ears a corn and tea ball in the yuck bag.

And the yuck bag, the whistle and fat. And my mom would put it down and then the table would look like we didn't eat. But yuck, you ever make the yuck bag not sound fucking gross. What about, I can't, sorry, didn't interrupt you, I interrupt you, John. I like the idea that you lived across the lake from either a prisoner in St. Asylum or something. And who was there? Who was there? The Madoda Mental Health Institution.

Beautiful grounds. So we lived on Lake Mendoza, which I believe Otis Reddinger is still down there hanging out. He's sitting on the dock by the way. He's sitting on the dock. Not really on the dock, probably still on the plate in the seat. But it's, now we're on a bay part of it all. And so we're on one side. And then around the bay is woods, pretty beautiful woods. But if you look a little farther, there's a weird smoke stack and a big brown buildings, you know, brick, those huge bricks looks terrifying.

From like, you know, they, whatever that beer facility from Strange Brew, remember that movie, Strange Brew? Oh yeah, yeah. yeah, and it looked terrifying. So That was the mint of and in them when we were little kids There was a lovely fellow by the name of Ed Geen that lived there and He liked to make furniture out of people. So later on a few years down the road when we were button college another fellow a few years down the road when we were at Boughton College. Another fellow took up presidency there by the name of Jeffrey Dahmer.

So we had like the All Star list, the Harlem Globe Trotters of the... You knew that he was there. Yeah, we knew he was there. And were you scared or you make jokes? You sneak out to the prison or what? It's a lake. You can hear everything.

You could whisper and you could hear echoing across the lake. And we're in all our doors, all of our bedrooms have doors that open up into the backyard and not very secure doors. These are just flimsy little doors. And you hear all of a sudden the dead of night, the sirens go off, you lift you head up out of the pillow,

look out the window, and you'd see the lights going off, and the sirens going up to like, sweet Jesus. It was before helicopters, but there were slides and dogs. So there's always someone escaping, and they don't say who? Yeah, no, they have no clue who it is There's someone who has escaped at Geen could have been he was a little older by the time we were around Jeff Dahmer anybody Jeffrey Dahmer was the guy that terrified me

Just he lived there he lived there for a while live there Yeah, and I don't know why I mean, what kind of institute is it? What are they doing there? And they're learning there. Yeah. And they don't look like real competent guards holding up. And it's noted that the gate was a chain link fence. That was it.

It's limsy. Yeah, chain link fence. Wow. And you hear that. And that best was that when you hear that Me and Kevin would be like oh my god here it comes you'd see the silhouette of Chris in the in our doorway With a pillow is just a big fat silhouette going shut your mouth sit down sleeping here in between your beds He'd sleep in between our beds

He'd sleep in between our beds because he was scared. The devil room of the furnace and the convoy. Yeah, it was a combo. What about when in the movie Shrek, I don't think a lot of people knew that it was Chris as the voice of Shrek for a long time? Oh my God. We go, and we visit him in LA. He'd be like, God, David, I gotta do this guy. This thing called Shrek.

Nobody knew what it was. Ah, cause you have to film those things for years. The voices. How long does that take? Well then they do animatics. He's coming back. He's coming back. Yeah, for.

But if you don't know it's a hit when I did Ember's New Group, it's grinding like three years in. I'm like, is this still an honor to do this? I don't even know, cause it could be shitty. You don't know. Oh my god, I know. No, no. It's just work for a while. You're like, okay, okay. I didn't even know if, because it could be shitty. You don't know. No, I don't know. No, I didn't know what it is. It's just work for a while.

You're like, okay, okay. I didn't get paid much, and I don't think Chris got much up front for that, but anyway, go ahead. So yeah, we had like, he had like five days left, and they were, he was, he shot it all. And then I have a bunch of pictures of, but he must have taken out of pictures of like the, I must he wants to take an out the, um, the animators of that,

uh, the writers and the animators because they sent them like a book of all the different photos they had shot up of them. Uh, they're pretty fine. So he almost finished the movie. I didn't know he went that for five days. Wow. I've shoots left five day, five days. But Johnny, did they ask you to cover it? Yeah, but it was like right after, you know, it was right after, 97, I was like, no thanks, now I'm looking at it like,

dear God, what have I passed up? Oh, you can't, they, Dana, they said you could finish it just mock Chris's voice. Do you, were you able to do that? You sound like Chris, but you kind of, yeah. I mean, if you, if you're, it you're a little bit, can you do Chris? You don't know. You have to go over here.

I don't know. I don't know. I was in a good old radish. Yeah, yeah, I know. It wasn't Scottish. I'm sure he was like, I just got pleased. I've got to be an older or something like that. I know what they had to tweaking of the levels of things I could think of.

There's you, there's donkey. Here's me. Here's donkey. But I didn't do that, which is a bad idea. Yeah. Well, who needs a billion? It reminds me of every goddamn time I see him. Now, you remind me every time you go, I would buy lunch if I finish Shrek.

If I finish Shrek. I go, all right, up. We all have something return down, you know. I know. Couldn't they have released it and then to ask me and I could have gone, oh, redo it. I mean, well, you probably did the right thing. I mean, it is, I mean, that's too soon to ask you to do something.

Oh my God. Yeah, I was way too soon. So I was like, yeah, forget it. I remember hearing about Shrek with Chris and I was like, Shrek, he's like, it's like a cartoon. Like we didn't know what you know. And it's not real people. It's like drawings that they make moves.

It's called Tom and Jerry. And a motion or something like that. Should I be Foghorn Legs? Now, see, well, I'll show you. Chris O'Neal said he was uh... map only was a crack combination of loghorn leghorn and my dad i go what really i don't know what it is that i like

uh... when he gets his voice i yeah yeah bill shakes fear i can't see how i can't see too good i hate them rabbits. Oh, no, that's the thing. What about, and Matt Foley was a real guy. Was a priest or something? Matt Foley was his, yeah, buddy at Marquette, and they played rugby together.

And he went off to be a priest at Jesuit priest there in Chicago. So Odin Kurtz and one of those hilarious, yeah. They wrote, you know, when you write sketches, you put in like someone's name, you know, and that name turns into something that's people know now. Yeah. Odin Kirk was doing a second city with Chris,

and he got hired on there because somebody had left, and so they put Odin Kirk in there, and I think all the other, Chris was the only one who was like, don't worry, Bob, I got you. And all the other cast, somebody said, I think Odin Kirk goes, somebody kicked me when the lights were down in between scenes. And Chris is like, what's God doing it? Uh, but he had brought, uh, he had brought that fully to second city.

He wrote it. He, I think we, you guys, we talked about, yeah, and he got to us now. And he said it didn't get on right away, which is shocking. No, can you believe it didn't get on right away? I know. Was he full commitment? Because the air show, the one that's famous, the commitment was, it felt like I've never seen anyone commit harder

to any extent. Oh, it's spot on to second city, same thing. Same thing, same energy. Yeah. Yeah, same energy, same eye, and Odin Kirk and wrote it for himself and he looked at Chris, he was like, fuck, this is yours. Oh yeah. That was very generous.

It's hard to give up a good one. Oh my god, yeah. It was so funny. It was so funny. Oh my god. This is so funny. We're doing Bob Odeker. Yeah, I agree.

Her buddy. You know what they always had to think of a new hook for Chris, like, you know, when like, where the, I was the elf, like they'd always cram me in as something like, he's Santa and I'm the elf or whatever. Motivational Santa, motivational art. But they go.

They did a motivational prison, motivational. I like when Phil goes, you know, they have to have a new beginning. We got a motivational set here. He's been down in the basement eating coffee beans for last three. I was made no sense. Yeah, just to make any excuse of why is he so wise. He's so freaking amped up.

David, I got one question. Did you ever notice that? Well, what was the basis behind? Did you remember the sketch? What do you bench? Oh, how much you bench? Everyone had fake legs and you had real legs. I think that was Fred Wolpe.

That was funny because it was about everyone talks about how much they bench. These juice had idiots and they're all sitting around. They're all of huge muscles, but they all have spindly legs that were like computer-generated little sticks. Because these guys never do leg day. They call it golf teas. That look, golf teas. Yeah, where you're just no legs

and you go up. And Fred was like, do you care you just use your legs? Because they're so skinny. And then I go, no, it'll be funny because someone will figure it out. Halfway through, they go, wait, it's fades real. I know, I didn't figure that out. I looked at that with hilarious.

Hans and Prons didn't have prosthetic legs. They had two tiny legs. Well, I don't know if we had some thigh padding or whatever. I'm not sure. And we had those short-cut baggy, but we had big, big biceps and shoulders. I love being in that outfit, man. Fucking hot.

It was all about the clap and then the flex after. Well, they were paranoid, delusional people with imaginary enemies. They never lifted a weight. They never lived in a way They just would have managed people who doubted them and if you don't think about properly Pumped let believe me now and hit me later. We could very easily come to your house and stretch your flap in the shape of a rope ladder So you can crawl down in the sewer because that's what losers live, you know, it's all the more Sorry, I had to fit that one when they gave you a two heart of a question. You guys got confused.

Yeah, yeah. We don't know. Muscles are confused. I can't believe it. That we love those characters. I like how easily you do Hans and Franz again. Yeah, I can't believe me later. Hilling now.

That was Kevin's. Oh, so funny. First of all, I like the gap girls. Oh, yeah. I was in the gap girls, David. What about Chris? He always put me in all the sketches when I went to visit him and said, it's in a lot. So I was in gap girls. Oh, yeah. I was in the gap girls, David. What about Chris? He always put me in all the sketches when I went to visit him. And it's sent a lot.

So I was in gap girls once. And then I was in a one with Bill Murray called the whip master. What was that? What was that? The whip master with a Schneider. Hi. The gap had a guard, Tom. All right.

What's your name, Johnny? Because, yeah. Because Frank and was talking about Al Franken said he stole some jeans when the guard was crying during Hey Jude. And they had a guard because the gap was so into the sketch that they would send us a real corner of the store. So they would make it look exactly like the gap for planning. So tons of clothes.

Tons of clothes and it was all real and all expensive. And then they had a guard there, which was very odd, but I love it. I just made it made it more cool. I loved it. Oh my God. Yeah. Another last thing is cleaning up is, Spade says when McCartney came on to Sarah and I left that when he was walking down the hallway, the Farley boys were all there drinking and hanging out and said, hey Paul, you're getting a little salty up top. No, that was Tommy that said that. I wasn't even in New York, I wasn't there. Should I ask Tommy when we talked and if that was him? Yes, but Tommy said that's a palm of cart.

Tommy said that out loud because, and I was like, you did wow. Salty on top. Here, no, he said, here was the quote, he's drinking. And they walked from the music to the stage. He's got his earpiece in with a bodyguard, and he's got 10 feet where he has to deal with real people, like all these clowns that are jammed

and they're with the red cups. Drunk and he's like slow motion. They're like, Pommacarni, 30 seconds, and he walks out where I'm like, oh my God, Pommacarni. And then Tom Farley with his red cup buzz goes, hey Paul and Paul turns and he goes, getting a little gray.

And then he goes, touches his hair as they open the door. Then you see him go on the monitor. And he's tuning his guitar. And he looks at a monitor and looks at his hair and goes like, where was it gray? So you can get in my head right before I go on live TV. He told me that story, Paul did. And his thing was the same thing was said,

except Paul remember saying back, I'll have to shake in some story, Paul did. And his thing was the same thing was said, except Paul remember saying back, we'll have to shake in some soul, Jim Peppa. That was his quiz. There we go. You know, there we go. Sergeant Peppa. And we go, you know, we were lads, you know, we were lads, we were chums, and we plunked, you know.

Great. He goes all the way back to that. Yeah. He just talks off being lads. Yeah, we were lads. You know, we've sit and plunk, you know, look at He goes all the way back to that. Yeah. It is talk of being a land. Yeah, we would like, you know, we've sit and plunk. You know, look at Johnny. Look at me and we'd be plunkin'. That's how we came up with Abbey Road. Anyway. I fit these in for a new story. John Farley. There's a last story. One more. Here he comes.

One last one. It's a good one. We're loving this. Kevin, I wear it. it was Mother's Day coming up and it was after the Mother's Day specials. It wasn't that we were gonna get mom something or maybe it was for Christmas. We were gonna get mom something and we went down, looked around New York and we found this cute little brooch

that goes a woman's brooch, the clown that goes on and we're like, oh, we'll give this to mom. Went back upstairs into the crisis dressing room and we put it by his chair and then we went out and looked around and watched the show and we see the closing bows and we see Chris getting up in the closing bows and he's wearing the brooch.

And he goes, thanks guys, this is a great brooch. I love it, it's a clown. And we were like, that's for mom, that's a woman's never es para mi, es para mi que no me pide. ¡Vamos a ver, Daniel! Pero, MailChimp, no. MailChimp analiza los datos de millones de correos electrónicos para ofrecer recomendaciones personalizadas. Para mejorar el contenido de tus correos electrónicos, se segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más, adivina menos y vende más con IntuitimailChimp. La marca número 1 en Emilio y Marketing y Automatización. Empiezas hoy mismo en MailChimp.com. Vas a vender a tus públicos de marcas competidoras en número de competing with the number of clients in 2020-22.

John Lovis was not part of this, but he forces way. Yeah. John sent in a tape. We decided to use it. No, John. John Lovis has some really funny personal interactions with Chris, so this was a slightly different flavor. But always fun to listen to John.

Chris told me he didn't like either one. All right, where'd you want to ask? You mean our friend Chris Farley? That's funny. All right, so that's what he said. The joke. Mmm. That's what we do on this podcast. It's called you two should have a show together. You ever think about John on the last thing

We had Mrs. Farley and we she said oh when I do the mother's day special We had lunch with Donald Trump and I go there's gonna be crab cakes and I go Dana go ahead Like it wouldn't believe you know you're gonna see a lot of crab cakes. And many people say they're not very good. They look at them and they say, no, but we're gonna do it anyway. And we're gonna do a lot of the crab cakes. It's just a song. I'll teach you the song. I just hilarious.

It's, you know, I got the gutter. I didn't mother. Oh, his mother is adorable. She wanted to call her Mary Ann, but we called her Mrs. Farley throughout the interview. And the end she goes, you can call me Marianne I know what like kids. She's adorable I know she's nice. I haven't seen her in years. She's very nice lady and his older brother Tom was very cool Yeah, John do you have any stories you'd like to share about our the great Chris Farley? You you at you didn't you did you

I have a lot of stories about Chris. Yeah, we've ever meet him Yeah, I'll tell you good and bad stories the first time I met him was in the offices of brilstein gray and he was gonna be on snl and um and I knew that he he said he idolized john bulushi and I remember at the time thinking that everyone really do everything they could to help John Belushi and Bernie goes we did everything we had a 24 hour bodyguard. He goes, yeah, but I go and it was so unfathomable to me when Belushi died and just go something's wrong like I don't know.

You know, and that was my naivete because I will do you really did everything. That's what people think people think you're not doing anything people ask me. Right. And I realize of course they did, but you know the person has to stop But anyway, I didn't understand I just thought God really everything so when I met Chris He was all I lies Belushi and I knew he was in the drugs and stuff. I just said this guy's gonna kill himself So I did a movie Mr. Destiny that I was a Supporting role and a star Jim Belushi and I work. Destiny that I was a supporting role.

And I started Jim Belouchi. And I worked on I knew how I'm supporting role. So I called Jim's agent at the time was a guy Mike Mentionl at CA. So I called Mike and I told him about Chris and I said, could you ask Jim to call this guy? Because he's gonna get on SNL, he idolizes John. And I'm afraid he's going to do something to himself.

Anyway, after Chris passed away, I ran into Jim. I said, Hey, did you ever get my message from Mike Manchell from me that I said to call Chris? And he said, Yeah, I did. I go, Oh, did you call him? He goes, I did call him. I said, What did you say? He said, I said, My brother's dead, you get it.

And that's what he said. And, but this was before Chris was famous or anything. So then you gotta look, well, what happened? Who is one of his closest friends when he passed away? Your arrow's point to me, John. I think so. Your square is lightening up. It's like a game shot.

It comes back to space. It's like a game shot. It's like a game shot. It's like a game shot. I think your square is light. Like a game. So I'll come back to say. Thing. And we have a winner. We have a tie. I'll tell you two stories. Two funny stories about Chris. Number one. Well, it was the funny one. So, he said, um, so we were close friends, you know, and, and you know,

Gerberus and I had that beach, and you guys would come over. Yeah, yeah. Now, Chris would come over a lot. And so one time, this is when he was a, he was sober for three years. And I'm talking to him in the garage in the beach house, and I said, Chris, I'm not only saying this story, so maybe it helps somebody who's addicted,

but anyway, I said, Chris, it's great that you got sober. I go, but now you got to lose weight. I go, my dad's a doctor and I always be with very blunt with Chris. I go, my dad's a doctor and I'm, I told him about you and he said, oh, that's too bad. He won't live to 40. Because if you're weight, you got to lose weight and he was, no, John, my dad's like six, six or six, five weighs 600 pounds. He's, no, my dad's, 600 pounds, he's 65, it's still alive. I go, well, Chris, and I said, but you gotta love yourself. He did get you there, though.

Yeah, that was a good point. So I go, Chris, you gotta, you have to love yourself. And he goes, okay, but John, if I love myself and I love drugs and they make me feel good. And I deprive myself of drugs, isn't that deprive myself of love? So we started laughing. Got you. Twiping and I said shut up, you idiot. Look at our Russ. My face. Funny, but it was not. I go, you idiot. He was our rest, Mike. It was funny, but it was not. I go, shut up, you idiot. He was laughing too.

He said, yeah, Chris, they make you feel good, but they kill you, you know. I think people need to know when we do all these stories and we talk and we laugh, we're not laughing at anything about morbid, about the death. It's just the way we're always together laughing about stuff like this.

And the way friends laugh about that stuff. It was funny. I mean, it was a funny thing. Everything is funny when you're with comedian. So everything we would make fun of, even if it's you think you shouldn't. So. Well, he was making a joke about it.

Yeah. Of course. He was always kind of joking, even when he was serious, you know. I mean, I remember one time we went to, I don't know if Dana, I think it was Dana and you David and Chris I know is you and Chris We went to a Laker game in my car you know then and then and Chris had like six beers and

Then we went to a that club bar one and I know David I don't forget Dan David was there and I go let let's go to bar one. And we go and then and Chris leans into me, go, I just do the bag of mushrooms or something. I go, Jesus. You know, I mean, he was just, his appetite was amazing. But he was a great guy and he was the funniest. And I, two things he did that were so funny.

One was I had, I used to have a super bowl party at my house because I was fun. And then I had a, David was there and Chris, one time David came and, with a lot of people and Chris came with his brothers and everything. So I just got in these two new cats, kittens. So I put them in a room,

there's like a hundred people at my house. Anyway, I put them in a room in my house and shut the people at my house. Anyway, I put him in a room in my house and shut the door and put his sign up. Do not enter cats inside. So about half hour into the party, I'm walking down my hall to my bedroom and I hear Chris go, John. And he's in the bedroom with the, where the cats are.

And I look in and I had these rolls I had the party was catered like For hot dogs and stuff, but they were shaped like a you know football and he had the kitten in the roll And like he was eating it like it was a sandwich Yes, like a sandwich and it was the funniest of course he wasn't hurting the cat And my cat was just hanging there had no idea idea the little kitten, you just had no idea what was happening. And he said, he was in a bit in a sandwich,

yeah, with Farley just biting on the sandwich. And I have a picture of it. It's on a Twitter. How did you take a picture of it? Did you have an idea? I said, I was crying laughing. I said, I go, stay here. I got to get a camera to take a picture.

I've seen this picture, we will put it up on my Instagram. Yeah, it took a polar. It was the funniest thing ever. And then, well, I, you want to hear another story is a temp matter time for one more. Ranch year. We have editing capabilities. So I wouldn't put a raw. So I had, I was at the beach and I had this girl girl over that I like. So we're out on the deck facing the ocean. It's really pretty and stuff. And we had an outdoor shower. Anyway, Chris was there.

So I'm talking this girl and stuff. And then I hear this voice, John. Like usually. John, what? So I turn around and he's naked and it's just covered in soap with his hair and his whole body from head to toe Throw it away so um it's all right. This is the picture so I say to my friend. I got the girl I go She doesn't see it so of course I say turn around the her turn around what turn around ruin her life

This is your first date Yeah, so she turns around and she's like, oh, she's these Chris. And Chris is like, oh, and he's screaming. Forse, I'm crying laughing. Yeah. And she's beat red. So then later on, about 10 minutes later, he walks, he's tall, he's got a towel around himself. And he walks in front of us face in the ocean, he drops the towel. And he he walks in front of us facing the ocean and he drops the towel. And he's right in front of our lounge. He's like, you know, two feet away and he drops the towel

completely nude and says, hello, manaboo. And then he's laughing and then he bends down to pick up his towel. Well, the momentum Balls between his legs and training the girls face You're a very observant person She screamed she screamed again Well, this is didn't you ended up marrying her. And that woman is my real Farley stories. Not the fake ones that you guys tell. He put the, he put the towel around him and I go, Chris Camille and I go, when you bend over your balls, my three legs right in front of you, no, I go, yeah, they do. He goes, no,

on, John, I go, no, I go, ask her. And he looks at her, he goes, did they? And she looks at looks at him beat right where their head shaking up and down. He's like, oh, it was hilarious. And then there was the fire story at the well. I can't believe Jennifer Aniston had to put up with that. She wishes, she wishes it was her. John, this fire was so real wise, you might get upset. Is she? Oh, I'm going to call it my wife. Anyhow, okay. All right. Oh, the fire story in 9B3. I was shooting a film called City Slickers 2. I don't know if you guys every story you have starts with a

promotion for a movie. So I'm in Culver City shooting movie. What movie was it? City Slickers 2. Oh yes. And the fires are raging. Oh and for some and I can see it on TV and for some reason I was talking to you David. And and I think you said you called over time with the fires and you called Chris. I go where is he goes? He's out in the ocean in front of your house and Chris said You said house the beach and he goes it's nice, but it's really overcast and I think David you said you idiot That's not clouds. It's smoke from the fire And by the way the fires were so bad The house I bought in Malibu,

which is right down from here. Oh, it burned down. It burned down. So I bought it after they rebuilt it, because I was, Yeah, it was five houses away from me. The fire was so, across the street, the fire station was on fire.

So they had these helicopters. That's not good. So I call Chris, no, that's right, David told me he was in the house. So I call Chris, you're in the house. Yeah. I go, you got to get out of there. But can you get some stuff in my room? I go, can you just get a bag and put like this in this? No, I'm only getting three bucks. I'm like, God, damn it, Chris, you asshole. Get the shit you fucking ass. So you wouldn't get it. And I remember watching you sing and then,

and there was a helicopter above the house. My house that were rented with the garbage, and you could see it, the house, and you could see that it was all of a sudden covered and smoking a cup of crap, the house just burned down. And it didn't, but the fire was directly across the street from the house. I mean, it was that close.

And Chris just thought it was overcast. And David had to get out of there. Idiot. Well, did how did he get out of there? Got to find out how you'll get mad. Call it. You're why I've swam up on a raft and said hop on. So predictable.

He drove out of there, but it was okay. I remember I think Gerber said he was driving. He could feel the heat on. He's driving on. It's so hot. It was Harry from the mountains, but the hill directly across the street was on fire from the beach. And they would jump.

The whole of those houses got burned. Houses on that beach got burned. I didn't like that essential nervous system didn't work. I go, Chris, can you at least, let's say it's clouds. Can you feel the heat? Yes, okay, it's a fire. And then you had to go. Yeah, you had to tell him.

Yeah, he couldn't get it that he shouldn't be out in the water anymore and we had to come in. But John, you did a coneheads with him? What, you didn't have any scenes with him? I was in conehead, I didn't have any scenes with him. I'll you didn't see him. I was in conehead. I didn't have any scenes with him. I'll tell you though, I think he was a great actor. I saw him.

He guessed it on a Tom Arnold at a sitcom. I remember he guessed it on it. And I remember watching him and that. And I thought his acting was great. I like, he really can act. No, but I mean, you know, he wasn't just being silly. It was, it was, I mean, he was, he had the whole package. But the funniest thing was, you know, when he first got on the show, like you, David,

you looked up to day and eyes like your heroes. So anyway, yes, because we were there before. And then Chris started doing movies. And I said, Chris, how much are you getting paid in that movie? Cause six million dollars. And then he looked at me, goes, John, stupid. I said Chris, how much are you getting paid in the movie? He goes $6 million. And then he looked at me, goes, John, stupid dumb, the picture.

Oh, and now the student has become the teacher. Wasn't that something I told him? It's a great movie. Probably, but he said it was very fun. I've heard that when he started doing well on the show. Well, honestly, I think I said it. And then I said it one night to you know who. And then she said it to you, Dana.

I just thought it was one of young cast members started getting good. I'd say the student becomes the teacher, but maybe I did it as a pawn. No, I believe you. Well, he said it to me. No, it's a good one. It's a good way.

Yeah. Did you, I'm trying to think of an item from right before he got the show. I remember he was visiting the show. The first thing I heard about him was from Bob Odin Kirk. He was, oh, this guy, where did this guy get? He's so funny. He's so funny. He just stands there and he's funny.

He's going to be the funniest guy in the show. And of course, I'm like, well, I'm sure he's funny, I don't know if he's funny. I can calm down. Of course he was hilarious, but I mean, yeah, I'm sure. Off screen, everyone goes, who's the funniest ever? And Chris, I mean, you guys are hilarious,

but he would do anything. Well, yeah, he would throw himself on the sidewalk. He'd just be, hi, lady, and he'd just like throw himself down on the sidewalk. He goes, I'm a trainer and he started to push up in front of girls. Like, what the fuck? He's like, I run a gym nearby.

He just does push ups and they just keep walking. Yeah, I mean, there's other stories about him that I, I'll tell you guys. They make the other one. No, they make the other one seem mild. I can't tell him. But you know, he was a great, well, there's a show stopper. Now, all our fans are clicking off.

Yeah, I just say one and we'll cut it out later. We'll cut it out later. Okay, because your time's up already. No, I can't. I'll tell you, I'll tell you guys in person. Why don't you tell me when you take me to catch steak and my fucking fish is $150. Why don't you tell me when you take me to catch steak and my fucking fish is $150. Why don't we all go to dinner tonight?

No, I'll buy you dinner, even though you're making money off my stories and I'm making shit. Make it money off my face. Might wanna turn the podcast back on. Lie on the floor. Yeah. Why aren't you two in John's joint? The new podcast from Cadence.

It's John's joint. It's speed. I'm doing a podcast. They go, hi, little fly and I'm on a wall. Oh, I don't know what day and day but our stings. Then I play your podcast. I go, well, be back next week. That's what they're saying. Darn you love it. Don't you? You seem like a great guy. I should do a critique of your podcast. That would be funny.

Uh, we're going to play it back. I'll tell you where they were right, where they were wrong. Um, the thing about David and Dana, it's that thing of like, they're both on the show and they're both blonde. And David looked up to Dana and David Dennis Miller. And then he got on the show and then he He had his little up to eight Hollywood piece and then he grew and he came partners with Farley And it said thing of like you know

Yes, that's a good that was a good Lauren. We got a Lauren. I'm well. Do a compilation. He's still looking for the new Chris and he found it You know He's still looking for the new Chris and he found it. You know, every time he sees a fat person, he feels like this might be it. Every time he sees a fat person, an angel gets its wings. What?

What? What? It's a wonderful fatty. The new motion picture. I actually love it when Lauren was on, I go, I appreciate that I could have had trouble the first three. It's like, you didn't get a give up on me. He goes, you were supposed to be there the whole time.

That was always the plan. I never told you this. I thought you were bringing the show down. And I said, Lauren, it's either, if you want me to come back. I appreciate your candor. I gotta get you. How would you have done that Hollywood minute? Let's see if you could do the bye-bye character

You know the flight attendant the Hollywood minute. I would have done it really Do it look oh yeah good is this thing still I'm having a good party recording aren't you fuck yeah, we're gonna trap you But boy Bye-bye everybody good bye-bye Do your catchphrase good bye everybody good bye bye. Do you hear catch phrase goodbye everybody goodbye. I'll give you on I'll give you when you're vegan saying ready. But everybody goodbye. Well, it wasn't just saying that it wasn't just a whole sketch.

Yeah, it was a whole thing. It was too complex. No, it was very simple. His name was Mr. Canby and he was the richest man in the world. And he was an idiot and he had all these businessmen on his board and he drove them nuts. And and he said, I'm leaving. Goodbye everybody. Goodbye.

The goodbye, Mr. Candy. See you later, everybody. Goodbye, Mr. Candy. Goodbye, everybody. Goodbye. And then I'd leave. Like, what do we do? I was gonna go buy Kit Kat. Well, goodbye, everybody. Goodbye. Cause I'd leave. Like, what do we do while you're gone and go, buy Kit Kat, well, goodbye everybody goodbye

because I'd be eating a Kit Kat and I'd leave. And I'd leave. And I'd leave. And I'd leave. And I'd leave. So he'd leave the room. For worse. And then Phil Hartman and Dana and Whitney Brown,

they go, God, can you believe we work for this idiot? He's such a moron and feels like, and then Whitney's guy, Whitney goes, yeah, buy a, you know, buy 300, buy 500 shares of KitKat, he hangs up, he goes, God, it's so stupid, he's such a moron. And then the phone rings and Phil goes, hello, what?

You don't say, you're kidding. And Whitney goes, what, Phil goes, KitKat just went up 300 million. Shoes. And then I come back, and then I come back in the room. Hello everybody. I forgot my wallet and then So after the sketch was over you'd have to get a quick Bigger over Mr. Can be and then Phil goes Mr. Can be kickcat. I just went up 300 million I go well you see by what you love and you can't go wrong and at that

Lauren first out laughing hissed historically. So after the sketch, you would get ready for good nights, right? When you'd finished Mr. Kenby, you'd have to do a quick change. I'm just saying that was the sketch. Because it was all in one minute. And then Lord does, you can't say goodbye, everybody. Goodbye is ridiculous. I know.

But it was on the 1257. But that's here. You have a state going, but bye, but bye, but bye, yeah, and Lauren goes to genius. Yeah, I thought you couldn't say that. No, so I ended up sticking in and at the end of it, I did tales of real blood. I go, good night, everybody everybody. I go, goodnight everyone. I'm evenly quince. Good bye everybody, good bye. So you know, and they told me that I stuck, I stuck it in, and the whole control room,

they said everyone applauded and cheered like, yay, got it in. Just like I got it in Dana. You know what? I don't know what? What? I don't know what he's saying. We just air that part of the whole sketch and not air anything else.

Nothing else. Just look at buy everybody, goodbye. It was a great... Go ahead. Money, he wants money! Oh, Jesus Christ. You need so much more guys. Where do you guys making? Hmm.

Peanut butter. Peanut butter sandwich. I'm gonna get paid for this. No, but if you did get paid, I would say. No. I'm leaving. Bauderick came off of the movie 10. She did Tommy Boy, she was an international star, a lovely lady, and here's her recollections.

David's wearing the bathing suit you wore in the movie 10. Just that church to be pithy. So I thought it was a bad choice, but he's wearing it. Well, Dana, I will tell you that Bo was in Tommy Boy. Uh, yes, and Master of the Skies, but Tommy Boy was a bigger hit. She was in Master of the Skies. I mean, of course. Sorry about that. Yeah, I opened it. I think yeah, I think you were in the oh, yeah It was sort of like you were flying around and then Then she turns into James Brolin. I believe right it was as if James Brolin could

Put a disguise on and look like bowdaring anyway It did 40 million domestic and a hundred with video. So it was still not to anybody. I didn't get any of that. But anyway, thanks for coming on. But Tommy Boy, which has gotten shinier and brighter as I like to say in these 30 years, it's sort of a cult classic now with Chris and you and Rob Lowe. So anyway, do you have a question, David? Since you were in the movie as well. Well, I just want to say that Bo probably might have some musings. And you don't need to have a hardcore hilarious stories. But I know that Chris liked you a lot.

I thought we all had a really, it was a bit of a tough shoot at time. But it was really fun and one of my great memories, obviously. And you could not have been sweeter. Do you remember anything about that movie that jumps out at all? I remember in, I don't know David nobody's ever told me who dropped out that I took oh That I jumped in and took that part You know, but I can't even tell you I I know Julie Warner was Chris's girlfriend in it. You were Brian Denny

That's such a good question. I don't know. Yeah, I was just curious because I was in Hong Kong working on a clothing line of all things, trying to check out whether they really had slave labor or not, and at the factory. And I got a call and I had been i promise jump on a plane to caronto that night oh my god got in the self-president i thought i thought i thought that afternoon wow the bathing suit shot

was that when you were in the pool and you came out and met denny and brine i mean and farly yeah it was it yes off the plane in the pool. You know, that's such a good question. Who was it?

Well, we're lucky it wound up being you, because just, you know, I don't want anything different about that movie. It worked the way it worked, and I wouldn't have any other way. And so exciting to have you there. I thought we had a good time there. We didn't all do all our scenes together. I wonder, Dana, if Bo was there,

if she remembers when Farah and I got an argument when he stepped on my hand with the two and if you're sandwiched and then we walked into the scene and I think the scene was Bo and Rob. Is that possible, Bobo? Yes, I don't remember one art. There you go. I remember quite a few. There you go. I remember quite a few. You guys, you guys were, I could say, brothers and sometimes lovers. Yes. I think we always used to joke that we were like an old married couple except we slept in the same bed. But you know, we would go back and forth as Bo knew, like everyone knows, Toronto, to

SNL. The worst part about it for me was I wasn't in much and I was a writer, so I would sort of have to write my own stuff and I didn't have time to write anything. So I'm like, do I have to come back for read through if I'm not really in anything? And Farley would get 19 sketches written for him. So it was tough for me just mentally and humiliation-wise to go all the way back and then come all the way back, but the whole experience in hindsight, like surgery was one of the best of my life.

I mean, I think you must hear about Tommy Boy still. I hope you do. I hear about it all the time. I was just at the big chargers, Kansas City game, Sunday, and everybody was coming up and talking to me about that. It's really, especially in a crowd like that, you can imagine. Oh, that's right in the pocket. I have to say, I think about Chris, I'm not even lying when I say every day because there's little things. And Tommy Boy, we would play sometimes at the hotel or in makeup. The stupid song, Maxine Nightingale, you got to get right back to where you started from. It's like just a toe tap of a song.

And it just made us in a good mood. And we'd play it and it was so dumb. But out of nowhere that song comes on. There's a lot of songs that you don't realize remind you of people. And then dancing in the moonlight, we try to get in the movie, and we didn't have time to shoot it,

but that song now reminds me of him. So there's a lot of that kind of thing going on, and it really tugs your heartstrings, because if I don't hear about Tommy Boy, I think of something about him or Black sheep or, you know, I have his Tommy Boy jacket in house and there's pictures up. So it's just, I'm not going to get away from it. I don't want to get away from it. We talked at the very end.

But was right, there was some tension here and there. Overall, we tried to laugh off everything because it is fun to do movie. It is hard, but it's fun. It's fun. You know, you guys were great. And did you have any sense that it was going to be a big hit while we were doing it? Not really. I think we were just so excited to be in a movie and letting it just come up with stuff on the set and we had a script that was kind of funny. And then we just crossed our fingers, but we weren't in that ethernet of people that were doing big movies.

So to have a sleeper do well or open number one was such a big deal. And it was never that huge of a hit, Dana. It wasn't like Wayne's Road is over a hundred million. This was, I think it capped out like 35 million, but it lived on and then it did bigger in video and on HBO. And then, you know, it just started, it just kept going. So I really like that. I like that it meant more to have it keep going.

So Bo, can I ask you a question? Do you, so when you got on the set, was that the first time you met David and Chris? Yes, yes, and I had just blown in. the first time you met David and Chris? Yes. Yes. And I'd just run in. Yeah. And you met them. I'm which one was your first impression of David or Chris, who was the more gentleman? Just, you know, because Chris, what a horrible question. I'm just trying, I'm just trying to jog memories or stir the pot. But Chris liked beautiful women and he was had a very funny flirtatious way about him

and a kind of an energy about him. I don't know if he ever picked you up or anything like that, but physically, but he was a big. He's a hugger. A big teddy bear, but he must have been very enthusiastic to meet you. I'm assuming. Yeah, he was.

He was doing that scene where it was out in the little tiny, dingy boat on the lake. Oh, classic. When it was half thinking. Yeah, and he, and he came up and yes, he knew he was churning on the charm. And he was just adorable. You know, he has that. I think he had that strike t-shirt where it's belly hanging out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I didn't really know who everyone was from the telegram on the telegram didn't give us the buyover.

The telegram or the fact we had facts. Chris Folly, stop. David Spade. I'm a bronze. Did it, did it, Chris Folly, stop. Need you immediately. Yeah, yeah, yeah, David Spade. Yeah, anyway, but yeah. Yeah, the David was, David was, I remember you always had low

blood sugar and someone had to go get you a tuna sandwich. But Chris was just charming, just fantastic. Chris had always just eaten a tuna fish sandwich. And do you remember the the the cappuccino missing that exotic thing that was in the trailer and Chris would go in and down three calling hot cappuccino right before it takes. Of course, yeah and he would get he would, in quotes moody later in the day. You were both moody. I know. It was crazy. It was crazy. But, uh, yes, uh, he, um,

the, the cappuccino was really to get up Dana because we hadn't done a movie and he would drink a, a quick shot between each take at the beginning. And then we all realized, this is not. That's going to come back to haunt you. Yeah. So we sort of paced it out. But most of the movie is memorizing lines. And you know, it's getting colder as we shoot. And you're just trying to just keep the balls in the air and keep it fun and get lost.

But yeah, I mean, I, I remember the last time I saw him, he was trying to ditch a reporter. And I hadn't seen him for a month or two. And he said, can you cover me because he had two gals he ran into and he goes, can you run a smoke screen? And I said, yeah, I can buy you some time. And he said, there was this movie he wanted to do. He goes, all people care about his Tommy boy. I don't know why we're not doing those anymore.

Let's just do those again. And it was really nice. And then he went, and then he took those girls that had got drunk and then they went to Hawaii. And the reporter for Us magazine goes, hey, where's Chris? I go, I think he went to the bathroom. And then about 10 minutes, and he goes, did he take off? I go, yeah, I don't know, dude. And then they

wear a hair behind him. And then my manager called and goes, did you know, Farley just charged three tickets to Hawaii and his card and now he's over there? And I go, um, I didn't, but it feels like those pieces fit together. I want, I want to be that spontaneous. I want to kind of like just say to my wife. Let's just go to the airport. Don't even pack. Let's just go pick a place to go. That's a good thing he would do. But Bow is used to flirting so she could tell if Chris could have it out. You're so perdi. Yeah. He would crouch. She can see it a mile away. I could see him crouching down. Yeah, he just had such a charm and an earnestness too. Yeah, I never had to argue with him, but David is scrappy.

Physically, if he had to fight Chris, it would be a match. But Chris, it might go up to 10 seconds before I lost. He was double your size or maybe triple. He was pretty big. Maybe it was. Maybe more. You know, I used to tell him he's a good looking dude. I thought he had cool hair.

I go, you're actually a good looking dude. Cause he couldn't believe all these girls liked him. And he goes, I'm fat, but they just want somebody funny. I go, you're actually not a bad looking dude. And you are fun to hang out with. And so I don't know if Bo can vouch for that. But as a as a girl, he wasn't a bad looking dude, you think? He's very cute, right? Yeah. He was cute. He was

either beautiful. Yeah, see? His eyes were really pretty, really pretty eyes. But and I remember we were in the same thing happened. I did a movie with Deadly Moore. And Chris picked me up. We were all going out to dinner and then a blues club, I More. And Chris picked me up with the role going out to dinner and then a blues club, I think, and it was just the two of us in the car. He was speechless. Could not speak. So shy. Just had the hardest time. Sure. Everybody gets that. I mean, that's, you are slightly intimidating for when they don't know how nice you are. No, no, no He just I it happens. I think a lot of people who are funny

Gen to You know put it on when there's an audience and then all of a sudden one on one just free time Well listen you got to work with them and that was that's fun and Got to know them and we had a great time sneaking over to that press rail at night and spending our pretty him. Yeah. No, it was great. Did you ever run into him since then?

I remember the premiere. I think Clooney was at the premiere because he was, my mom said, George Clooney's flirting with me. I go, I don't know. I think he just said hello. I don't know if that's what that is. But Chris was there and we saw you there.

I'm sure, right? Were you at the premiere? Yeah. And then after that, did you ever run into him? Did you come to SNL? I didn't. I didn't. I never saw him again.

That was the time. And he was really sweet. He was very thankful because, you know, now I can't get arrested. But then, you know, I helped kind of open the film in a way. And I did a lot of publicity because you guys were known in one sector, but not necessarily. You weren't known much at all of you were like, I mean, if that was after 10, in that movie, I'm not, I wasn't in showbiz really when I was after 10, but knowing after 10, that when that came out, how much it must have changed your life and how, you know, when big movies come out and they do so well that people just freak out.

And that's kind of, seems like it must have been one of those. So of course, you would have been a huge, huge help in getting that off of God way more than this. He was so sweet. He was so grateful. Yeah. Well, I am too, because that really got it going for me too. Well, it's fun. The movie is evergreen and it's just going to

trundle along and someone somewhere is watching it right now and join it. So it's fun to be part of a classic. Yeah, it's keeping the lights on at TBS for the last, you know, yeah. Thanks for sharing your stories about our friend Chris and we're just kind of celebrating him. Yeah, I love them. I just love them. Lucky to know him. Next up is Brad Kravoy, who produced Chris's movie Beverly Hills Ninja. What year did you make that movie with him?

I think 1997. I don't know, I could find out for you, but it was right after Kingpin, Dumber Dumber Kingpin and then somebody said, you know, you got to break out a little bit and what about Chris? And so David, I just learned about you and Chris at that time because you had just done Tommy Boy, right? Right, right, right. Right around that time because you would just done Tommy Boy, right? Right, right, right. Right around that time.

And I don't know, he was just the greatest. I wanna talk a little bit about Ninja because it's come back in the news. Of course, you've heard that Christian Bale says it's a masterpiece in his favorite movie of all time. You guys know that, right? Oh, I love that. I heard that.

I read that. That really made me laugh. Yeah. Well, we heard today that Jonah Hill's favorite movie is Tommy Boy. Yeah. So Ninja, that's, that was a, a big one. You know, I have first a question and we get to Ninja on Kingpin was Chris talking to you about playing Randy Quaid part? I thought that was happening. Well, I'm a, I love Chris. Okay. He's, he was such an, I mean, you guys know better than anybody.

He was such a sweet, but funny guy. Well, love to entertain. So, you know, working with the fairly brothers, they have very strong creative visions about who they like. I, I wanted Chris for that, but I think if he'd been Bobby wanted to go a little different direction and they did a great job, you know, Randy quaid and Bill Murray and Woody. So, you know, that's how that went. And so that's why when I got this script for Beverly Hills Ninja, I was so happy because it was really perfect for Chris. And as far as I could tell, nobody was ever thinking about him for that role, because it suited him so perfect. And when you think about it, because he was such a physical comedy comedy guy and the role is a fish out of water comedy It was like I couldn't believe it when I got this script. It was it was amazing

But the thing is it almost never happened because I mean you're you guys work with Mark Gervitz and He tortured I think I think there's a drop more there Gervitz tortured me to no end and Bernie a little bit, Bernie Brilston, but Gervis in particular. So when we finally figured it out, okay? And Chris did, you know, agreed to do the movie because of Gervis.

I think Gervis ultimately helped. I said to Chris, I said, you know what? This guy, Gervis, he tortured me. What's your best prank we could play on him? So what we did, we had a night before Cast dinner at the old palm member on Santa Monica, right around Ohini. We had the room and We always called him Mr. Dark Cloud Gervis because you know Nothing ever good was happened from this movie or any movie.

Yeah, it's never going to happen. Yeah, that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that Indian tribe. So we made a couple calls and I got the chief to come to the dinner at the palm. And Chris was basically set to settle for Mark. And the chief came with a bunch of his buddies, they did a little powwow around the dinner table and then presented Mark Irvich's chief dark cloud with Indian headdress. So if you go into his office today, because someone said they were in the office pre-pandemic, you would see it, but with the world away, it's going, I'm not sure he has the nerve to present it in public anymore, but it's probably there somewhere. But Chris was so happy to pull this prank on Gervis. Like he was beaming.

I mean, he was so happy happy he was so happy to get through it yeah Gervis for the audience is Dana's manager my manager Chris's manager all this whole time so that's that is funny because he's very tough on these deals but I remember I think Chris got six million it was in variety on the head on the cover and we all saw it At SNL in Lauren's office laying out in that outside office Dana We were waiting to go in right and we were all like what the fuck no one knew and and Chris is like is that a lot? Did he get did he get that much? Brat I mean did he get six million or is it, is it classified?

You know, what was it? It was it in the ballpark. I would say he had never received a paycheck as large as that. Then maybe after, but I don't think Tommy Boyd come out by then. How did David had, had, had Tommy Boyd come out? Well, no, I think Convoy came out, then Black sheep, and then I think Ninja. But Tommy Boy, he had a set price, and then Black sheep, he had a two-picture deal

because of, you know, he made a two-picture deal with Paramount, but I didn't. And so I actually got more than him in Black sheep because of a contractual snag. They just, I had to renegotiate and his was already set. And it, oh, believe me, that fucking burn his onion. And then, you know what I mean? But then he went sky high.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what we made up for. And that's a grievous kept on saying, you gotta make more of this space. He's got a grievous beard. Well, good god. He blew by me on a rocket ship. And I think maybe was he in talks to do cable guy back then? And then that fell apart because I think black sheep.

I think the timing on that, you know, worked to help you on that movie. But you know what? I know he was so appreciative of earning what he did earn. But to me, he was like, cure comedy genius. Like, I remember when we were gonna do the movie, we wanted to work on some scenes on the script,

like some set pieces. So I went to Chicago, I went to his place, we hung out. And this is like, it was defining moment in my career because after we were finished for the night, he goes, oh, let's go out partying. And he took me to this place and he became one of the characters from SNL and everybody there loved him. And he was like going crazy, was sweating all over the place, he was dancing. And he was just having a really fun time. And that to me is like, how I remember Chris, he had that side. He just loved

life so much. And he loved to please people with his performance and his humor. I don't know how you felt working with him, but that was my experience. He would light up the room because people would light up and he saw him. And he would go out of his way, you know, to be nice. So we had to make a wish, wish on Beverly Hills Ninja. And I remember when the K came to set, like, you would think Chris was his big brother. You know, he took care of him all day. He went and made sure he was okay. Like, it meant a lot to him to look after somebody. And I just think it says so much to him. And I did a little research. And I remember now what happened because he said, Oh you we take care of my buddy Chris Rock because I think at that time Chris was was just emerging

you know 25 years ago Chris was just building his career but everybody knew like Chris was a genius. I mean Chris is a comedy genius he's just unbelievable for what he does. So he goes he was in ninja right right and he, you gotta find a part from my buddy Chris Rock. I said, are you kidding? Of course we're gonna find a part for Chris Rock. Pop was, yeah. That some people didn't accept the idea that we'd have another star like Chris Rock. And I kept saying we gotta make this part bigger.

We gotta make this part bigger. We pay Chris well, but the part was really bad. And to this day, when I see Chris, and he talks about Beverly Hills Ninja, he is not happy about the role he played. He played a bell hop. And the director and me, I think, had a little thing. I don't know what happened. The next thing I do, I'm looking at the dailies and Remember from set the chris was chasing around some chickens at the hotel and he was pissed And he still talks about today that wish we could edit that stuff out because it's horrible. I mean Chris rock. He's the best You know, he's so I think it was between leaving us and L

And his special coming out being huge. So there was that in-between period for about a year where he took a job, got paid well, and it maybe, you know, that happens in movies. It's not perfect and obviously he's way better. But, you know, it just, we all were in cone heads. That wasn't the best movie in the world, but everybody from SNL was like, jury duty. We all did something that, and that wasn't a huge hit, but Chris is in it. I was in it. Adam was like, jury duty, we all did something that. And that wasn't a huge hit, but Chris was in it, I was in it, Adam was in it.

Everyone had something to do in it. And those things happened, but Chris, rock, obviously, land on his feet. And we talked to him just recently with this thing. Are you dead? Yeah, we talked to him just now. He was really slamming you, and I'm kidding. No. And I'm you and I'm kidding.

No. And I'm kidding. I'm kidding. He also had me word one year. He did his monologue and I just finished a movie at Cuba Good and Junior. I will not say the name. And the first thing he says when he gets up there, he was saying, anybody ever seen that movie that Cuba did?

Oh, that was my movie. So he's not happy still. He's still talking. Did you, Brad, did you ever go after him for any other movies after that or was it an engine? That was it, was it pretty much toward the end? Well, the thing that I learned, because in my family, there were so many that had issues

of addiction. And so I was always really sensitive to that. In my family, there were so many that had issues of addiction. So, I was always really sensitive to that. And I just kept thinking he was so perfect. He was always on time. He was always so professional. You know, he wanted to do the best job. As long as he was scheduled. And then the second, you know, the movie ended, it seems like things went a little bit crazy, right?

Because it was unscheduled. And so I definitely wanted to work with him again. We talked about a couple other projects, but it didn't come to be. And the status part, I don't know. I mean, I don't want to get, this is like an upbeat thing, but he always would say, you know, my idol, my idol, John Boulouchy, and I want to be like him, and, you know, it's going to end like that.

And I said, Chris, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're the new version. The ones built the last, right? And I mean, John Boulouchy genius, right? But it was, he just, it was like his older brother, almost like his idol. And he just emulated everything he could. It seemed to me at that time in his life when I was with him. And it just, it just didn't have to be because he loved everybody. Chris, you know, he was also really spiritual. There were times like I think we had to work on a Sunday and he asked to get, you know,

a local, local church member to come give him communion on that day like you know He was really spiritual guy. Yeah, every Sunday. He'd keep going all night. Let's trade to church Not no joke. He would just go. I got to be there. I got to be there no matter what at like 7 a.m. Mass or whatever and he go and then he goes okay back to normal. He needed that you know And he loved you like and so that was the one thing we try to do is to find something that you guys could do together that wasn't a Tommy boy type thing, you know, because that's such a great new.

They're all gonna just turn into that if we did him. That's the way it is, but it's funny. I remember Acroid pulling him aside to tell him Belushi was my guy and you just can't do it, you know, you can't go down that road because Chris love Belushi. He'd wear Belushi's he'd find his pants and wardrobe that were still there to set it on the inside And he'd wear him under his pants. He put his pants on then he put his other big pants on Just to get the magic of whatever, you know, so he was and Belushi day. Day, I think they both died at 33. So it was,

it was leading down that road. And he always had a caveat where, well, Blue Shoe party hard. And if I want to be like him, you know, even though he knew Downdeep, it wasn't really the way, but it is, it was, unfortunately, the road he went down. the road he went down. Mm-hmm. But I'll tell you, he'd be so happy now to hear the Christian bail arguably one of the best actors of his generation saying that Chris Farley's performance in Beverly Hills Ninja was a masterpiece. I love that.

I love that. He'd be so happy. I can, I mean, it's Christian bail. You're right. Probably arguably one of the top three actors out there. Unbelievable. Yeah, it's good. It's good as it's ever been. Well, just the fact that he's still like a worldwide star,

partly. I mean, everyone, it's getting to the point now, unfortunately, where I meet younger people that don't know him and I just go, that's just the way it is. You know, there's just going to be a wave of people that just don't know him anymore. And it's, unless they see these movies, but they always play, but that's where you get a little scared. You're like, oh, you got to remember them.

And that's why things like this are good. Just keep it out there, it makes people go look them up if they don't know him. You know, it happens to anybody, my son, at one point a few years back, he goes, hey, dad, who is Johnny Carson again? You know, so it's a, Of course, he just don't know,

and it was ground in our memory banks every day of our lives. And then it's just not. But, you know, when you make a movie like Tommy Boy, or really Beverly Hills Ninja, they're evergreen, you know, and they're silly, and there's a magic. A lot of young people really like to look at 90s comedies and 80s comedies. There weren't as many rules,

and they were just more overtly comedic. I don't know how you describe. You could speak better to that Brad about just the change of how to make a comedy today versus back then, but it is a different time. That's all right. Dana, your comedies, if you don't mind me saying, were really important for that era

because the first one you hit out of the park with Mike was incredibly good and funny and counter the cultural life. Cause it seems like every 10 years there's a comedy that comes along that sets the table right for the past 10 years it's different, it's special. And people start talking about it and you did that. And I don't think Beverly Hills Ninja was exactly in that category. It's more traditional

fish out of water. We'd seen that before. You know, crocodile, Dundee came out where, you know, fish out of water. I'll say, a guy comes to LA. So, uh, and I feel like Ninja was special in that regard because you saw a different culture through the eyes of Chris' character. And you saw it was like to live in sort of a society that had ninjas, because that ninjas exist. Ninja exists. Listen, it's a funny premise.

You get the funniest guy out there arguably at the time to do it. And it's a good recipe. Why not make that movie, you know? And I think Nicolette, I think you really like Nicolette Shirt and they got along, right? No, they really got along. And I remember we were talking about casting

and we were suggesting different names. And I said, well, what about one of the most beautiful women in the world, great actor Nicolette Shirt? And he goes, he was doing cartwheels, yeah. Yeah, he was so happy. He was doing cartwheels, yeah. Yeah, he was so happy. The other thing too, like, he did so many of his own stunts and he got messed up a lot with those stunts. Like, I can't even imagine somebody today

doing a degree of stunts. He voluntarily did. And one of the times he butted his head and like the wood was supposed to break and he hit a stud. And he had this huge bump on his head and makeup, you know, had to cover everything up and he wouldn't complain like he would just like keep going. He would just keep going because he was such a professional. Like, you know, in Tommy Boy, I have to break a board across his head. And you know, so they scored and it's Balsa wood, but it's still a fucking board across your head.

And I did one and he's like, God damn it. You know, after the take. And so the guy comes over and I go, score it. So it's basically falling apart. It should be Styrofoam, but it was actually very light wood and they scored it so it would break. And I did it again and Farley's like, lately I'm going, all right, I got one more in me and that's for him to complain.

It must have just concussion protocol because I keep going, I don't want to hit him and they're like, just one more and Farley's like, I can take it and you seem going, do not hit me here, Hit me here. I'm like, what are we doing? And today they never would let us do that. It was like, no way. It's too dangerous. Also would, yeah, just get a loud sound effect on it. And it gets styrofoam and ham go, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh All the things that Chris is so big physically and he could move around so that we would do this stunt casting

He would do himself and the fight with Robin shoe his co-star and he could move around Yeah, he was agile like that was the thing was so weird He was like and he could have been a gymnast because he does all those flips He could do this flip and even doing these swirls with the kicks against this ninja guy, like, and he was kicking his ass. It was incredible. He can kick and stand like ballet stance and kick his leg really high to the side. I'm like, oh my God.

Yeah, I remember that move. Yeah, you know that one. Hey, look, yeah, no, he was an athlete. We've talked about that. He was a, you know, a heavy-set athlete, but underneath he was just so flexible, agile. And what a great physical comedian. I just could throw himself around.

Well, Ninja was the movie for that. You had him doing a bunch of different things, which just played into his stuff. You know, that script had been around for a long time. And we had it, we got it, we figured out, we figured out the last act, make a little bit better, a little bit more funny, and then work on him to make it better and he had really good instincts about comedy, you know, physical comedy in particular to try this to try that. He's, you know, he's good that way. He really understood the genre. I mean, you would know better than anybody, David Hepburn, you know, working with him on SNL and the movies, but he really understood comedy. Yeah. Well, Dana worked with him too.

We know it very well, and it's great talking to guys like you. We appreciate it, Brad. Thank you very much, buddy. Jim Belushi was nice enough to talk to us. And this is one where it gets a little deeper because of his brother, John John and John's heavy influence on Chris Farley. Jim looks good. I'm doing art.

Jim looks great. I saw you last. I saw you was at the 40th in New York. I believe. Oh yeah. That was a great night. Great time. My favorite joke in that show was the Immamorium. Remember that joke? They showed love it.

They showed. For him, we'd like to do a section of the Immamorium, those who passed John Belushi, Gilderadder, John Lovery. Yes. And then they cut the John. He felt like, I'm alive. Here. John's comedic persona is very specific

and that was an inspired thing. And of course he loved it. You know, so yeah, he's there's only one John Nevets. Jim Belushi from... And almost feels like I get to see Jim Belushi never and then we go into sort of a serious subject. But you know, Jim, well we talk a little bit before we get to Chris Farley, but love it's probably go,

the world, according to Jim, like he would do that for 20 more years, but anyway, we love John. He's been part of our show celebrating and remembering the one and only really, Chris Farley, such a sweet brilliant guy and Any comments Jim you you have a connect connection Love Chris I felt a special connection to him because

He had such a special connection and desire and love for my brother, John. Yeah. So when he would see me, he would light up, and I'd go, Chris, I'm not John. But you know him. And I know, I know what he was so great.

There was so much to say. I know, I know, I know I know but he was so great I know I know I know Anyway He kept going on about Jan you know my side no I know he was beautiful. He was beautiful as tell to me I know I say I know you had to stop you got to stop chasing him Chris. He's come on. He's gone I know I know I love him so much He was so good. He's gone. He's gone. They know I know I love him so much. He was Oh, good. That's a Chris you can't follow John You can't follow his track

And I did drugs He's dead You can't follow him with the drugs To find out who he was. I mean, I did it myself right after John died. I kind of increased my intake to try to get close to what John must have been feeling. And then one day, what the fuck am I doing? And then I just kind of cleaned up and stopped. But I told him that story too and I said

you've got to stop you got to fucking stop Chris I know yeah he's always nodding and said yeah I know I'm I'm going to going to but it was so you so beautiful you so beautiful and I just kept repeating it. Chris, he's dead. Stop it. You've got to stop. I know, I know, I know. It wasn't a very successful one. Yeah, so obsessed with John. It's like he wanted to be John. Yeah, Jim, I don't know if you knew

that when he would get the wardrobe, once he figured one of his pants said Balushi in him Because of the same size that he would wear him even if First I go to these blue shoes. I go I know Chris It is very exciting to be on that show and see someone from the shows before that we all looked up to and And then he would wear them under his regular pants during the show and just for luck, for magic.

Yeah, I know, I actually the first couple of movies I did after that, one movie's spelled, I took a little hat of Johns and I wore it in the movie just to kind of bring him along. And another movie I wore, belt of his, just to kind of bring him along. And another movie I wore a belt of his just to kind of bring him along. But, uh, yeah, you know, a big sin is an obsessive behavior. And it's just extended into obsessing about John. Yeah, true. Was it was it something, you know, obviously you'd think, well, maybe he admired John, because John was was a pretty big guy and very physical

and very spontaneous. And I mean, was it just relating to him, you think, over, is there something deeper just about John's personality that Chris admired, you know, and emulated? I mean, who knows why we have certain idols, but clearly John was his idol, comedically. Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know what it was. I mean, you know, he died at the same age. You know, I don't know. He just, you get obsessed with the guy. Maybe it's because he's Chicago. They were the same size or spontaneous. Yeah. I think he saw himself growing up going,

oh, there's a guy like me and he's like, and he's from Chicago. You know, he always a guy like me and he's like any some Chicago You know, he always talk about like any Bob his head like a croit and you know listen We all grew up loving a pollution acroid and that whole everybody, you know and and when you're in it You think you're shitty and they're great and then it takes years to someone to say oh Chris you're great and I said you're as good as Blue Sheet toward the end. I said, I sound crazy, but it's great as he was. You're up there dude. He's like, no, don't know. Never say that. Yeah. But the truth was he was great.

And again, cutting it short for a crowd that could have seen a lot more. And you're right. There's no telling them no. And if you say it too much, we would have problems because you know, he, he, he, he goes away from people to do that. And that's just normal. Yeah, that's normal. A addictive behavior. I mean, even John in the end, Danny said some very interesting and that was, you know, when John died, the people that were around him, Danny didn't know any of those people. Yeah. None of them. So, you know, Alex kind of created a community that will support them, you know, and indulge them in what they want to do.

Same lifestyle, yeah. Yeah, they separate the people that are trying to help you. Yeah. Addiction separates, you know, isolates. I just want to emotionally talking about this. Does it, I mean, it's sort of something that I'm just getting in touch with now. You know, John, of course, I knew it was your brother,

but I can kind of in touch with now. You know, John, of course, I knew was your brother, but I can kinda sense it's frustrating, and then Chris too, and you tried to warn him. I mean, you're just sort of someone who's dealt with this and it's, you're in your own lane in terms of emotional frequency because of this connection between Chris and your brother. And I don't know, it's just, I'm so outside the world, but you're inside it,

and I kind of feel like. Yeah, well, you know, it's something that, look, addiction, addiction comes into a family like a snake and it kind of wraps around your legs and then your hip and your waist, your chest and then your neck until it suffocates you and somebody dies. Every family that has addiction in it, there's a possibility of that strangulation. And a snake got John, a snake got Chris, the snake has got a lot of people. Addiction is, it's a bigger issue shows up everywhere.

What happened with Chris and I have a John, I've witnessed it everywhere in my life and I watch, I watch it. I watch families just get devastated by an overdose or a drunk driver or drunk driver, you didn't kill them. So it's devastation alcohol and drugs are they decimate the family. It's terrible. It's terrible. And I always thought it's a junior and I used to joke about it. I mean, well, this is the decade of readjustment It's gonna take us a decade to readjust

from John's death and Not taste forever. Yeah, you lose a brother you lose a son You know you lose a daughter is it's just it's one of those devastating things in life and you do learn from it you do grow from it you do get insights and wisdom and the truth for me is that after John died you know it's like if somebody died in your family David I wouldn't know unless you told me, right? But with John, the whole world knew this. So no matter where I would step in life, people would bring it up. Yeah.

I mean, a very loving way, you know, sorry, I really loved him, I really loved him. But another interesting thing that happened is that is over these decades, people have lost their brother, sister or parent to especially a drug overdose they would search me out and I would come to me and they would talk and I'd look at them and they would check me out, see if I was real, and then they would break it and tell me that they lost a brother. And they would look to me for advice. And I thought one time I go, okay,

that's one of the reasons I'm here is to help other people with the suffering of loss. here is to help other people with that suffering of loss. So I've been educated in so many different ways because of that loss. And Chris, again, imagine when he's done for you guys for his brothers, his mother's, you know, you carry it with you. And you just, you carry with you and you just, you learn and try to put a positive spin out of the hell, others. You can't compare, I mean, we can't compare to the brother and, and Chris was such a close friend, but even then, you know, I can think about it every day, and I think that's kind of what you're going through right now. You can think about it, but if you really start to think about it and you hang on for it too long, then you're gonna break down

because it's just too heavy. I can skim it. I can talk to people out on the street. And then, but when it goes to the next level, you go fuck it. It's too hard. I can't talk about it. We're skimmers, my friend.

We're comedians and we scroll on. Fuck yeah. I mean, people go, hey, or some are people to this day go, hey, and then they meet me and then they go, by the way, sorry. And I go, sorry about what? They're like, yeah, Chris and I go, oh, yeah. And then just just bummer and then they go, okay, later. And I go, well, thanks. Then I walk away thinking, oh my god, don't we think about that? Yeah, I get it. And so instead of trying to get away from it, I just, I just engaged it. And so, okay, this is where I'm thinking, this is what I'm feeling, what am I supposed to learn now.

Again, I keep trying to bring some kind of value in my life and some insight and some wisdom to help others, but then when it comes into addiction, people are addicted. You can't really help them. There's nothing you can do except for be the reality principle with them and say, hey, you know, you're addicted. You're addict. You're destroying yourself. You're destroying your family.

And man, I'll be stopping. And you got to walk away. Yeah. your family and man, I'll be stopping. And you gotta walk away. Yeah, the attic has to wanna stop and that's the linchpin. You can't, you know, his question is why didn't you stop him? It's just so naive for people to say that. Yeah, you get mad at the attic, you know,

the nests would start to encode a penalty. So you can't get mad, you gotta mad at the addict, you know, the next one starts to go to pregnancy. So you can't get mad. You got to get in compassion. Yeah. See them as sick, um, that need help. Yeah, I heard one thing at the Betty Ford client. They said, you know, if you had a relative that had cancer and you were sitting in the bed next to them, the hospital name. They started swearing at you and yelling and thrashing. You wouldn't be mad at them with you. You would understand that this disease is eating them alive. And you can only sit there with an open heart and compassion. and the problem with alcoholism and drug addiction, you don't think of it as a disease or illness. You just get mad at them, which only enables them to continue on their path.

Yeah. Morgasm and excuse not to see you or hang out with you or talk to you. Yeah. Well, they also, their brain has been hijacked and so they tend to lie, cheat and steal, but it's not who they really are. It becomes primal, the desire, you know, like water and air. And so it turns into number one and then everything else who cares. Yeah, completely all encompassing.

Yeah, it's such an interesting lane you've been in John. I'm sorry, Jim. It's just this has been a very unique part of our of our honoring Chris and remembering Chris. Well, I remember I'm a very, very funny man. He was one of the funniest guys in the world. Man, he used to make me pee in my pants. That's what I was going to that's exactly what I wanted to ask you to close this out It is seeing him move around like that and his comic moves in his rhythms His commitment all of it was I mean I I've literally

Let go of your and peed in my pants with people in my life Don candy my pants with people in my life. John Kennedy. I love John Candy. Oh, Jesus, I gotta go to the, I gotta change my pants. Yeah, yeah. No, Chris. Yeah.

Well, Jim, thanks, man. Now I think it's thanks for digging deep and just even talking about this stuff. It's hard. It's hard for all of us. It's harder for you and It's been 40 years since John I hate that hard. I don't mind talking about it. I Learned a lot. It's good to pass on and talk about it. It's not so hard. Chris is 25. That's crazy 25 years. It's like, you know, I've been too sure,

grow up and go to college since they've passed, you know? All right, see you, Jim. Thank you everybody. We really appreciate it. So nice to see you and all my love to the spirit and Chris and maybe floating up there, having a good time right now. Chris and maybe floating up there having a good time right now.

Conan who's such a great friend of both of ours is is another different flavor here because we're sort of all over the map with highs and lows and thoughts and remembrances. I might move into one of Adam's nine houses that he bought the block. You know, because I go by that house back, I used to run a lot and I would run by his house and he keeps swallowing more and more property. I love it. And so I'm just thinking if I was an 85 year old person who lived contiguous to his property line, I'd be so terrified that my time is up. Locker and shows up and says, hey, it's time. Yeah, because he goes,

he goes, I had my daughter over there once and he goes, all right, why don't you guys all go over to the other kitchen and at the other house and they all went over there and made cookies and stuff. This is a full house in Palestine. Yeah, yeah. This is what we do at dinner. Okay, a full house and palatine. Yeah. Yeah. This is what we do at dinner. Okay, we'll start.

We'll say, okay. Conan is one of us, was pretty tight with Chris. We did the show with Chris for many years. Showed Chris around, we hear? Yeah, when he got worded. The tour guide for Chris Farley, the first day. I have a very clear, one of my clearest memories was I was working at SNL as a writer and you know that Lauren has that office.

He has his office on the ninth floor. And you know, everyone knows that the writers, not everyone knows, but people should know that the writers and Lauren, the early part of the week all happens on the 17th floor, and then after read through everything moves down to Studio 8H, where they're getting the sketches on their feet and they're constructing the sets, and Lauren has an office that's on the 9th floor, it's small, but you can walk from that office as a glass door right out into the audience. So it's right there, and that's his command center for the second part of the week.

And what he does is he would have meetings with people, but Lauren famously would keep people waiting, obviously not a homocartney or someone like that, but he would keep people waiting. So I will never forget, I came down to nine and I walked in and there's this guy sitting there and Chris Farley's such a presence that you can tell, this is a special person. He like in all the best ways, he's sitting there and I started screw, you know, having fun with him.

Roan together. We were just we were just riffing with each other. And he had such puppy dog energy. He had incredible, like puppy dog energy. And you know, he was new. He had he had been at SNL. I mean, it's he had been at second city. And he had worked with Odin Kirk. So Bob came in. I think Bob gave me a heads up. My friend Chris is coming, but I didn't really know Chris. So we start just goofing around like kids and we are kids. And so then I said, I'll give you a tour. You want a tour of the place? And he went, sure, sure, boss, sure. You know, he goes right into character. So I said, come with me. You know, kid, kid and I start I lead him through the studio And it's a totally bullshit tour. I'm doing this stuff that you guys would you know see that guy over there

That's camera man. You're gonna like cameraman and Someone would be lifting a boom and I'd say up with that boom guys. Let's go and he was cracking up and then he was doing it too And he was playing the part, he's such a good natural fun improviser of the kid from the Midwest who just got off the bus and has a cardboard suitcase. Oh, wow. Golly, gee, really, Mr. And he was doing all that. And I was being a big over-the-top city-slicker blowhard. I mean, it's so much fun with him. And then he was an absolute delight, you know, just such a delightful presence on the show. We all remember that, I think that chip-and-dale sketch is where things really blew up for him that Jim Downey did. I believe

it was Jim Downey. And I remembered. Early on. Yeah, I remembered standing, I'm probably 15 feet away from Patrick Swayze and Chris Farley when he rips his shirt off and does that. And I mean, it was just an atomic bomb blast in 80. I just screams of laughter. Working for the weekend comes out. Yeah, everybody's working. And of course, Farley doesn't just commit, he goes to 190.

And so that was really nice. I left SNL at some point, I left SNL and I went to work on the Simpsons out in Los Angeles. And I would see Chris on occasion here and there, but I didn't see him as regularly. Then, when I started the late night show, Chris was great. Chris came down. He was on the show. He was fantastic. He was a juggernaut. And then one of my things that we did is I was always been obsessed with that thing on the three stages where you know, Molarian Curly see these women that they find really attractive and you cut to and it's Molarian Curly dressed as women. And I always loved such a stupid idea that

men would be attracted to the female version of themselves, which is usually pretty hideous. But it's just one of those comedic premises that you have to go along with. So we did a bit involving pre-tapes where Chris and I are talking at the sat, you know, talking at the desk, chatting, and then Chris kind of notices, hey, look at those interns over there. And I go, huh, and I go, hello. And then it's me and Chris dressed as pages, I guess we're pages. And we're dressed as women. We're absolutely hideous. But we're doing all that kind of stick like you. Oh, I think this one likes me. And I think that one likes me.

It was just so much fun to do that old, I think it must be a Vodville bit. Oh, yeah. To do that with Chris was a real joy. He could turn himself into a 10 year old boy in a second, you know, with the index finger and the chin goes down Yep, and then kind of swaying back and forth Yeah, he could yeah, you come at him with any bit you just start anything and he's immediately doing it He doesn't ask any questions. It's just bits of hoi. He's into it. Yeah all the time And loves it. Yeah, and kind of just the way a fish is meant to live

in the water. And when you see a fish swimming through the water, there's no question as to why it's in the water. It's genetically engineered to be there. That was, I think, Chris in the world of comedy. He just was supposed to be there. And that's, that was his natural habitat was, you know, inhabit, you know, just constantly, what is the bit required?

The bit requires for me to be the skipper on Gilligan's Island, then I'm the skipper on Gilligan's Island. You know, it requires for me to be a big over the top. A little bit. Exactly. You would just walk in. I'm going to go get some cocaine. Yeah.

And he was so, he was, uh, yeah. little bird. Exactly. He would just walk in. I'm going to go get some cocaine. He was so dull. He was constantly morphing, jumping around, whatever. But if the bit required, kind of the way I think musicians, if one person's playing open chords, low down the neck on guitar, the other person should go up the neck to compliment harmonize. I think that was what he had naturally was, you know, if you're playing the alpha roll, he'll immediately, you know, take the weak position. If you are riffing around and you're acting like a nerd or a weakling, he'll immediately go to boy yourself together. You know, and just kind of magically, I don't know, it's so much fun. I would like people to know that however much joy he brought to people honest and now in those

sketches that you can watch and in his movies and his work, whatever he's doing there that's making you happy, you have to understand that stuff was happening all the time in life that was hilarious and there were no cameras. I like when we walk in your office and you go, well, well, well, crappy and cruddy, right on time. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well well crappy and cruddy right on time Yeah, it's or he'd peek his head around your office and or my office he go David it's always a bit he can't sit still like Chris I'm trying to write David I have a secret. It's like what's this one? What are we doing? What's going on? Yeah. I love it though, because everybody at the show, which is a gift that I kind of realize at the time, but I realize more later, everyone, especially when I was there, was so good and or better than me that when you run into Conan, you're suddenly going to be better because you're with a guy that's so smart and funny. And then you turn and there's Dana and then there's Dennis Miller and there's Chris Rock and

Hallway. So whoever you're joking with or thinking of bits with, it's, it's so beyond the level I was used to that it really was a gift. Well, I think to be with some, the funniest people. Yeah, I think that was true for all of us, though. I mean, all of us, and that is one of the real joys of being lucky enough to get into this business is you find yourself with, you're hanging around with, oh, I'm hanging around with a, you know, a Chris Farley and David Spade and Dana Carvey and Kevin Neeland and, you know, and then incredibly funny writers, you know, Smigel and Odin Kirk and Greg Daniels, and you're just, and so what happens is you get spoiled and then people are so funny and so quick. And then you go to, you go to like, you go to a barbecue somewhere and people are working in finance.

You're just not having as much. You realize, oh, I'm spoiled. That's not the real world. This is the real world. Occasionally, you bump into a funny person, as opposed to things are jam-packed with incredibly funny people and funny in different ways. Yeah. That was fun with the fun.

Like, Jack Handy. I could never write anything like Jack Handy, right? No one could. No, no. It's just such a, everyone's got such an interesting angle. I go to that read through table and just go, what am I doing here? It just took a year just to go. This is how you write a sketch. Forget about it getting on.

Let me just figure out how this is working here. It's so complicated. But, well, no, it is, you know, it's that old rule, like play tennis with people who are better than you. I don't play tennis. I knew when I raised my kids up in Northern California, there was a banker, very nice guy. Whenever we'd walk down the street,

I would do one of my things that I do. I just look at him and go, interesting. Huh. Yeah. And for five years, he go, interesting. Huh. Yeah. And for five years, he go, what do you mean? Nothing, you know? And then finally like five years later, he walked down and looked at me and said, interesting.

Huh. It's just the passive aggressive character that I do of starting to get it and all that stuff. Right. I think Conan, you degree that Chris, comes off as kind of a doofus dummy in his characters, but he had such a way of understanding every bit so fast what you were doing that he got them all.

It wasn't like, what are you doing? What do you mean? You would maybe think he was on top and he would laugh. You can tell just people, not what they say, but what they laugh at. If they laugh at the driest, weirdest jokes, you laugh at everything and you go, shit, I was, you know, that he catches so many things and that would maybe surprise me. Yeah. Yeah, I think, well, there's a real sweetness there and a, also, he was, it's true and I think it's a really good point that, you know, he was famous for being, you know, what he would probably call fatty, you know, who falls, fat fall down.

But he was very intelligent and highly just adept, very quick. And he saw things, he understood things. And I think that was, you want to make sure that people know about that too, that he, you know, whatever struggle he had with, I'm just fatty fall down. That wasn't, that wasn't true. Most of us, and most people I talk to in comedy and not just comedy, but specifically comedy. And I'm talking about people who are very successful have they have a problem. You know, you've heard of body dysmorphia where there are people who are way too skinny and they're ill and they, if you ask them what do they look like, they'd say, well, I'm really fat and it's an actual medical condition. I think there

are people that have career dysmorphia. They don't understand how much they bring to the table and they tend to run themselves down and they tend to say, oh, I'm no good. I can't, I'm, you know, I'm not nearly as good as these other people and you're looking at them thinking you're fantastic. You're amazing. Yeah. After like three weeks, four weeks, every host that came in would zoom right to Farley. Yeah. I remember when Michael Jordan hosted the show and there was a basketball hoop set up in

eight H and it was this him and Farley just playing two on two or playing horse and you could tell that Michael Jordan was incredibly fascinated by Chris Farley, the energy and funniness of him and the way he was made him. And he was good at basketball. And he was a natural athlete and his charm. And he was like, I just watched that and said, let Chris and Michael Jordan go at it, you know, that'd be a good pay per view event. I heard just Michael Jordan adjacent story, but I remembered when he was there that week

doing a thing about the Globe Trotters, it was a film, and I think Robert's Michael did this. Robert said it was fascinating because Michael Jordan was watching, basically they just got, I think the premise, if I have it right, I may not, but I think the premise was that at the beginning Harlem Globe Trotters were all white. That was an integrated.

Yeah, and it's a really, it's such a great, Robert idea. They don't want Michael Jordan, right? And they don't want Michael Jordan, because it's like, it's crossing the color line for the Harlem Globetrotters, which it's okay. It's a perfect comedy idea, courtesy of Robert's okay. It's a, it's a perfect comedy idea. Criticie of Robert Smigel. But then, um, Robert, I think mentioned to me that, you know, Michael Jordan was in between takes. He's there. And the writers, they, they, they got writers and interns to fill out the numbers, you know, so there's some cast members there.

But there's also just, hey, you, kid, because the point was they wanted them to look kind of pathetic Steve Corn. Yeah, whatever. So they grabbed a bunch of people and that Jordan was watching 21-year-old writers and interns take terrible shots and clang against the rim or miss or complete air balls. And Jordan was standing there and Robert was right next to him and Jordan was being critical of them. Cause he's so competitive. Sure he's had. And he's like, oh, yeah. Yeah. So like a, a 22-year-old who's never touched a basketball in his life, but is just there to fill out the back of the frame,

basketball in his life, but it's just there to fill out the back of the frame, takes a shot and gets an air ball. And Jordan was like, God damn. It sucks. What's wrong with him? I just love that. It's the thing I keep learning again and again and again in this world, which is that there's a reason people are where they are. So you can, some people can think, well, you know, Bruce Springsteen's, he's just Bruce Springsteen. So that's why he's Bruce Springsteen. And you realize, well, what is it that got him there?

And then, every now and then, when I've had the pleasure of talking to him or interviewing him or spending any time with him at all and any capacity, he's like, yeah, I think if I, I think if I'd, I think if I tried a little harder, I could do this new thing with my voice. And I'm just really trying to do that. And you're, what are you talking about? So the rest of us, you're on the, you're on the top of the highest mountain in the world. But he's thinking, yeah, I can do a little better. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think I could just do this thing a little better. And I think, yeah. I think I could just do this thing a little better.

And I think, you know, Michael Jordan is, you know, people say if you play like dominoes with him or cards or anything, he will try to kill you. Yeah. And take and if he look and if he loses, he's really pissed. So, um, yeah, yeah, drive that's not going to. Yeah. and whatever. And it's the thing that got you there doesn't go away.

So whatever you had when you were 14 that turned you into that person doesn't suddenly leave once you've achieved success. I think it's like the doctor, your leg is over the table and he does little hammer. And it's like a reflex. So if I do a corporate date, I'm not thinking about the money. I want them to say no one's ever been as funny as you. Even though it's insane, they don't even care.

But it's just a reflex, you know, it's like not even just a- No, it's funny how people think when you're out in front of people, you're never, I mean, I think all of us, you're not thinking in that moment, this is what I'm getting to do this in terms of, you know, any financial reward, my pay is gonna be, when you're in front of people, you just want it to go really, really well.

And anything less than that is going to bother you for a couple of days at least. I know, it's so crazy. That's what you're thinking about. And the fact that someone goes, yeah, it was pretty good. I'm great. Dana was here a couple of weeks ago, and he really killed it.

You were not, but you did fine. Anyway, here's, you know, you owe you some money. You just, you just wanna die. You know, you're gonna give the money back and just go fuck yourself. I don't. Just take it, I don't deserve it. It's fun to care, you know, just like never let it go.

No, it's not, it's not fun to care. Well, well, it's the opposite of fun. Compared to sin, but you get, you get the moments where it worked out and rather than like, well, what does it matter? I have a bathtub that's made of diamonds. Exactly. No, no, I completely agree with you.

Two sides of the coin, just in and the yang. In and the yang, you probably use that one a lot on the podcast, don't you, Dana? Yes. I'm so glad that this format exists, this podcast format. And one of the reasons why I do find it therapeutic. I do find today, when I knew that I was coming in to talk to you guys, this is technically where we're doing some kind of a job here and making something. It doesn't feel that way at all. We're here to talk about

Chris and we're here to remember him and enjoy him and you know keep his spirit alive which doesn't need us to keep his spirit alive. But I don't know it's just it's very, I was when these things are over I feel like I don't need to see my therapist now for a couple of weeks, you know. Where were you when you, I know we're supposed to stop right now, but where were you when you heard that he died? I was, I remember this exactly. I'm getting ready to do our show, a late night Show, which is on the sixth floor. And down the hall from us was our wardrobe room,

and Deb Shaw was in the wardrobe room. And I went in there and Andy had to go in too because we had to get fitted for some kind of sketch. And it was in the afternoon before a show. But close to when the show was going to be on and someone just walked in and said, Chris Farley died. And I just, yeah, I just was, we were all stunned. And I remember this.

I said, someone's asked, like, oh my God, you know, how old is he? And I just said, probably 33, because I knew that he had talked about how much he admired Balushi and wanted to emulate Balushi. And so I said probably 33 and then we turned on a TV and they said, you know, has died at the age of 33. So I remember saying that before just because I knew that that was such an obsession. I had been like all of us really, I had lost regular touch

with him. And then I saw him, there was something called the Aspen Comedy Festival. It doesn't exist anymore, but it was a big deal. And they sent a lot of us out there to be part of it. And I, yep, you guys were there. And I was there to interview different people on stage and do panels. But there was a big, there's an opera house there to huge venue and they got so many great SNL people there up on stage, it was a big night. And I remember Chris was funny, great SNL people there up on stage. It was a big night. Yeah, I got that sort of.

And I remember Chris was funny, but a little kind of like roller coaster almost coming off the tracks in a perilous way. And then afterwards, there's a like a skating rink outside, you know, near the opera house. And the comedy festival had organized some kind of party and Chris was there and He did not seem well and he seemed he just I mean to me it's the One of the saddest things is meeting him for the first time and spending all that time with him and he had that puppy dog. Good cheer lighten his eyes and then when I saw him towards the end. The. The kind of.

I don't know what to say I would anger I think he was angry and. He was angry and angry if anyone I think suggested that maybe he needed to look after himself. And there was a lot of heaviness. I don't mean physical heaviness, but just a psychic heaviness. And that's such a painful thing to see up close, you know, and to see someone like Chris go through that, I mean, it's the oldest story in Hollywood. But to see that arc, I think, was tough, and I'm sure you guys had more experience with that. You specifically, David, than I did, but I just saw, I hadn't seen him in a while, and I saw

him at that Aspen Comedy festival at the skating rink and was trying to, you know, sort of talk to him and say hi and he just seemed, you know, impatient, angry. Yeah. Aspen was a tough trip across the board. I had the same experience. Same experience to do at Conan, yeah.

Yeah, Aspen was just a tough trip because he got there and he just got in everything and it was almost like downhill from there. When I saw him the next day, he hadn't gone to bed at all. So his eyes are sort of rolling back while he's talking to me and I'm like, you should get some sleep.

And then, oh, who is that Dave spade over there? And but he's doing it for a crowd of idiots, of like people that stayed up all night with him. He always would find people that would be willing to party with him, of course. And it's in that somebody I don't want, you know, none of us would probably gravitate to. And they're all there for the wrong reason. And then he's doing stuff and goofing around. But then he slows down. You see him just staring into space. You go, oh, shit. You just hope he'll turn it around. I think we all did. He just, but then when you hear the news, you're not shocked.

It's just so sad, but it wasn't out of the blue, really. Well, Conan, thank you for talking to us. Yeah, I'm really glad that you guys are doing this, you know, not just, you know, for all things SNL, but specifically for Chris, because I think it is good to remind people that as legendary as he was and is, there's a person there. There was a person there who brought a lot of joy to a lot of people, but also had clearly a lot of pain. And so I just, you know, I was raised Catholic. I'm hoping he's in a better place, you know. Yeah. Well, this is the heaviest ending to any podcast I've ever done. I don't know.

Who are we talking about? Who are we talking about next? All right. Well, thank you for listening. And I think we're just going to end it with Adam's Chris Farley song. So here it is. All right, guys. Kind to do this one. This is a very special song. I hope you like it. It means a lot to us. Here we go. First time I saw him he was sweeter than shit Glad jacket and bell too tight He wasn't even doing a bit

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It's waysy when they're in places coffee with boulders He went fucking crazy The sexiest guy throwing me loafin' the bear Without a thereby no lunch, lady, no lady, lad You know I made a vow, thinking about a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man, I'm a man After a show we drank a quarter jackass and stick the bottle round up his head, that Catholic boy always showed up the morning man. We tell him, slow down, you'll end up not blue. She can't even say those guys are my heroes, that's all I'm finding, damn it. I ain't making that shit up, that's the truth about my boy for his father.

I saw him in the office crying with his headphones on. Listed him to a Casey in the sunshine band song. I said for the how the hells that making you so sad. Then he laughed and said, just think it about my dad The last big hang we had was that TV Meadows wedding party We laughed our balls off all and long all because of farting. What a few more slain than party came to an end. We flew out to Madison to bury our friend. Nothing was harder than saving the back, The same bath, some watching Princess Father of Easter to cry

Hey, bud and laughs moved on, but you still bring us so much joy But you still bring us so much joy. Make my kids laugh with your YouTube clips, or Tommy Boy. And when they ask who's the funniest guy I ever knew, I tell them hands down without a doubt it's you. Yeah, I'm missing it, I watchin' you try to get laid. But most of all, I'm just watchin's you, yeah I'm missing it now I'm watching you try to get laid But most of all I'm just watching you fuck with Spain You're an egg tonight party but I still wish you here with me And we will get on a plane to go shoot

Blood on three You're loving to save without you, boy. And that's why I'm saying it about, I'm saying it about my friend Chris, Paul Hauling. And if we make an up noise, maybe he'll hear us. Give it up for the good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good, good Thank you.