Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Zach Galifianakis (LIVE SHOW)

Episode Date: March 8, 2023

Between Two Ferns, The Hangover, and SNL with Zach Galifianakis. Live from Largo at the Coronet. Recorded March 1, 2023. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://ww...w.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Whether you're doing a dance to your favorite artist in the office parking lot, or being guided into Warrior I in the break room before your shift, whether you're running on your Peloton tread at your mom's house while she watches the baby, or counting your breaths on the subway. Peloton is for all of us, wherever we are whenever we need it, download the free Peloton app today. Peloton app available through free tier or paid subscription starting at 1299 per month. Hey David, no offense or nothing. I love when people start, no offense or nothing. No, no, no, no, no offense or nothing, but you're wearing FYI, another one I love, you're
Starting point is 00:00:41 wearing the same hat you wore when we were interviewing live Zach Gallifonakis. Oh, yeah. Was that a theme with you? No, I just I like to be close to Zach or what? I like this hat and God damn we had a blast to Zach. It was fun. Don't have to swear no gosh dang Gall darn it, but I got a little zippy. What's it called? A three-quarter inch? Three-quarter sweater? You got the dime? You can get a little $12 grand. What did you ask me?
Starting point is 00:01:09 I don't know. Who are you? What? I don't like talking. A hundred grand, but that's $7 million. Who cares about numbers? That's not Zach Gavagloss. That's Joe Biden trying to pronounce that. Zach Gavaglosses.
Starting point is 00:01:22 That's a hard-can exact clap from that smile. You know. Yo, come on man, kick your ass. He's gonna just buy the end, he'll just be threatening. He's gonna just buy the end, he'll just be threatening. He's gonna just buy the end, he'll just be threatening. He's gonna just buy the end, he'll just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening.
Starting point is 00:01:36 He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening.
Starting point is 00:01:44 He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. He's gonna just be threatening. Oh man, Willikers. A ball. Okay, so this is great. Let's, should we talk about Zach? People I was asked, is are we cold in here? Are we hot? Is it bright? Why do we have sunglasses? Why do we do that? All we know is we look cool.
Starting point is 00:01:52 It's all that, it does matter. But it's about, it does not matter. 91 degrees in here right now. Well, we never saw that. And then they go in the scary part as they think they look cool. Look how we phone in the podcast. Of course we stay cool, even if it's hot.
Starting point is 00:02:03 We've got one foot out the door half the time. Dude, I phone that, suck, green. Peep, boop, boop. I love phone. And last night I fell asleep twice. Is that what? Zach was so funny. He's so quirk, quirk's a hoi, is really the theme.
Starting point is 00:02:16 He's a very interesting actor, hilarious comedian. Yep. You never know what you're gonna get. We were lucky to sit with them because we all think he's such a high up there on the... I said to him at one point, you only do cool things. It's true. He turns down.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I think we didn't get to the point last night because people go, oh, hang over. Between two ferns is a home run, obviously. Plastic. And they don't see him a lot, but he turns down so much and that's not really usually the custom. He breaks that.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Yes. So it was fun to talk to him and we laughed our ass off. He has an incredible sense of humor. He's one of those comedians who will laugh incredibly hard. Yeah, it's very nice when comedians give it up and laugh. Yeah. Charming family man, very, as a lot of integrity organically without wearing on his sleeve about his work, like, talks about how he just doesn't want to do things
Starting point is 00:03:10 because that wouldn't work out or wouldn't be very good. So he was such a fun guy to hang out with, David. Unlike me, I do things that are horrible on purpose. No, I don't. Well, I've got subsidies. And I can say the church lady is for sale if anyone's listening to this intro. I think one of these shows you got there. You got a dress like church lady, one of these two whole thing. And yeah, I think we should.
Starting point is 00:03:40 We should have special guest appearance church lady. I got the full gear on. And you could maybe interview one of the people, one of our guests. Geez, you got me busy. How about you dress up as Joe Dirt? Dana. I'm not a clown.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You win. You're not a clown, you're Joe Dirt. I am so similar, Joe Dirt. It's not even that much different. There's not. I'd have to get out of the cobwebs, go to the Smithsonian, get the codes, get the one. My wife says, how was Joe Dirt today?
Starting point is 00:04:06 I said, you mean David? She goes, oh yeah. Oh, it says, is that a different guy? That's his alter ego. It's like Santa Claus. Well, let's go. Oh, that's rapid. So why you should watch this?
Starting point is 00:04:16 Zach is one of our favorite guests. I do believe he's one of the, uh, 100%. Seminole comedians of his generation, he's, he, there's only one Zach and he has a very time finally tuned since the humor and it's a hell of a nice guy so enjoy the show David I agree Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! Hey! I did an impression within the first 20 seconds. Damn, this chair, look at our chair differential. The fuck, I'm like a muppet. You're like six, two, and that thing. I'm gonna get up front, be like this. What's up, Zach?
Starting point is 00:05:16 What? Where is it? Zach here, yeah? I got up at six. That's it, we're warning them. I'm just gonna be back. I'm punchy, I'm over tired, I'm like a baby. That's it, we're warning them it's gonna be bad. I'm punchy, I'm over tired, I'm like a baby. I'm over tired.
Starting point is 00:05:29 That's the beginning. Alright, Zach. Welcome Zach, Alvin Accus. I'm over tired. I'm like a baby. I'm over tired. That's the beginning. Alright, Zach.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Welcome Zach, Alvin Accus. Zach, Alvin Accus. Sure. It was a little louder for Zach if anyone's counting. Oh, right. Okay, Zach, that's... That's... Zach is...
Starting point is 00:05:55 Zach is... Zach is... You're... Yeah! I'm just gonna say, you're something else, man. Yeah, something else. Thanks, something else. You look like Wolverine right now with that hair.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Oh really, I'm sorry. Cool. Actually have a cool hair, which plugs are coming in nice. Yeah, a lot of plug work, a lot of plug work. A lot of nice props coming in. So how you doing? Is that it? I'm half mile away from you.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I'm doing well. David, why is that chair of that way? This one? I don't know. It's a, for a't know. It's a... For orthopedic issues. Oh, okay. He likes to be...
Starting point is 00:06:28 Seems... A wreck. Oh, I don't know. This is good. Okay. Anyway, we don't have to talk about it. No, it's all right. Zach, enough of this bullshit. So Zach, can we butter you up a little bit?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Yeah, let's butter him up. Okay, how the fuck did you come up with the two ferns thing? Because that's too crazy. Some of you remember. Come on, come on hot. Right out of the box. Because that thing is I saw every episode today. Oh.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Today? Well, they're, they're, they're, why, I've seen them before. Yeah, I've re, I'm almost 80. I have to refresh my memory. This is an illusion. It's a lot of blood and gut and sweats and tape. So when did you come up with that?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah. It was part of a pilot that they were doing and this guy, Scott Ockerman, was producing it. Scott Ockerman. He asked me to do... LAUGHTER Come on up, Scott. He asked me to do Come on up Scott, but
Starting point is 00:07:33 He just said would you do something and I just said I For some reason I had this thought I just said Can you get me two ferns and some kind of celebrity. And I had worked at a cable access show or station I interned one in college. And so I kind of like that world, that kind of low-end desperate, try to wait a way to communicate. I actually had a tape to class at a cable access show about how
Starting point is 00:08:12 to, how to waltz. And I got my two friends back when you could do this stuff. You can't do it anymore. And we just put him in gowns. And it was a very straight video and dance lessons on cable access on how to walk, with not trying to be funny. So that kind of weird world I knew, Scott Akraming asked Michael Sarah to be in the first one.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And we just kind of made it weird and creepy. And I always thought celebrity interviews are, what do you mean, ridiculous? No, they are. It's like, he's talking like Axis, I would say. Oh, yeah, I got it. It's a little, yeah. I mean, it's just such a bizarre thing. But let me ask you a question about this.
Starting point is 00:09:07 So the guest comes in and I understand from my research today that you didn't really prep it with them. Did they have cue cards? Or they don't even know what's coming and then you guys just go right at it or do they kind of know where you're going? No, nobody really knows what's going on. I mean, even us, I mean, we have written things down and I think the idea is.
Starting point is 00:09:38 They don't need to be funny. They just need to kind of answer questions. And I think the awkwardness kind of fills in the rest of it. And then often as part of it is improbbed. And we just kind of, or I'll give them something to say back at me, that's very mean. So it's kind of a very give and take. It's not a prank. I don't want to prank people. Because I'm sure people, you know, the publicist in this world are very hawkish and they don't want you to do anything where you're gonna look stupid so you take the
Starting point is 00:10:12 Michael Sarah one maybe and and they either see that because that probably goes up on funny or die maybe back then pretty quickly and then that catches on so they go someone might even call you and say hey I'd like to be on this because it's my type of humor and the people you have on obviously are funny and they're huge stars and And when they go along with it makes them look better. It's all good It's sort of when you're on SNL and you go with it like they if you let them make fun of you and goof around it seems to be funnier Yeah, I mean, there's that that is all true. I mean, but there's been some times when I've Go sideways all true. I mean, but there's been sometimes when I've go sideways. Well, that's what I should ask.
Starting point is 00:10:46 I don't know if I've even spoke about it, but there's been a couple of instances, and I don't mean to bring people up, but the name of the show is name names. The reason I bring it up, The reason I bring it up, because I was just talking about it to somebody they had lunch for some reason. So I interviewed, they brought it up and lunch today and they interviewed, I mean I interviewed,
Starting point is 00:11:19 Jennifer Aniston. Yeah. You know, you know, you know, it's a smart water. We all, we, Jennifer, if you're listening, we've only know her because of smart water. Right. What about her shampoo commercials? She's got one. I mean, I mean, I don't, I guess I mean, I don't know. So did you say something to do? You thought it crossed the line? No, no, in the wings, I guess, I mean, I don't know. So did you say something to do with your thought across the line?
Starting point is 00:11:45 No. No, in the wings, I had a Brad Pitt look alike. Ha-ha. Fuck off. Fuck off. Yeah, boy. And so I wanted to tell her about it before, you know, we started filming, so I kind of asked her,
Starting point is 00:12:02 if I could have a word with her, you know, like a vice principal. No, but- Someone who looks like Brad Pitt might be expensive. Well, now I wasn't- How many people look like- What? That's how I'm doing. I'm scale minus 10.
Starting point is 00:12:17 So, you pull her aside and you say, is it okay if we try this or not? And I said, I have a Brad Pitt look-alike here. And as soon as I said it, I read doing it. And I said, I have a Brad Pitt look-a-like ear. And as soon as I said it, I read her face. Yeah. And it was her. I felt so bad.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And I don't even know anything about that thing. I mean, I know there was in the things, but in the papers. So I don't know much about it. So of course, I called it off. So I went up to the Brad Pitt look at it like, to tell him we don't need it. He's wrapped. Yes, and as a joke, I kind of went,
Starting point is 00:12:53 well I said, listen, we don't need you. Thanks for coming. And as a joke, I said, do you happen to look like anyone else? And without pausing, he goes, Colin Farrell. So there's those little... Don't get rid of me yet.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I am a chameleon. Oh, it's a bogey. Jennifer is very funny. Yeah, she's very funny, girl. I think that might be, you know, they, they, they go on there to be fun. He says he's reading the papers. You're calling her a girl. It's 2023, guys.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Is she funny? I mean, is she a girl? Yeah, she's great. She should be a woman. I guess you go on my point. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I say girl a girl. It's 2023, guys. Is she funny? I mean, is she a girl? Yeah, she's great.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Should be a woman? I guess you go on my point. I'm sorry, I say girl a lot. But she is very fun person. I think when they go on, they kind of know what they're getting into and then it probably goes a hair farther than they think. And yeah, I mean, I think the idea is to try to rattle over. As much as you can read people and push it.
Starting point is 00:13:48 There's been a couple of times that, um, Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that. Why? Well, has a bedtime work like would you do one with Mike Tyson? I, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, I, I, I don't really do them anymore. Oh, okay. So...
Starting point is 00:14:09 Sean Penn's scary enough. But... But you're a fan of Don Rickles, right? Because you did that show. So Don Rickles, to me, as a kid growing up, was the funniest guy on television. Is he here? The reason is because he, everyone loved him,
Starting point is 00:14:24 he'd put you down, and then he'd go, the show started, put it in the corner, give him loved him, he'd put you down and then he'd go, the show started, put it in the corner, give him a cookie, he doesn't know. It was so dry and so bizarre, there were no jokes. Do you feel like that was an influence for the character, the fern guy character, to ride that line? Because it's funny because you're going right
Starting point is 00:14:39 at some sort of truth about them. And if they have a sense of humor about it or a perception of them, they laugh really hard. Right. I mean, part of it, I mean, if you to really break it down, I guess, is that they are, they're a public figures that people kind of want to, unfortunately, jab at any way.
Starting point is 00:14:59 There's some of that to it. And I think in the end of the day, I think it's the media and all the thing. Every hype people are human. We're all, you know, obviously. And I think people that are willing to make fun of each of themselves. I think that's a real nice attribute to someone. Even if it's staged a bit, I think being able to laugh at yourself in that kind of way is a nice thing. No, I've been asked to do them with other people, presidents of companies, and big Pepsi has asked to sponsor it to get blown out of proportion.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And I've always just wanted to keep it free online and keep it clear of those other things that get in the way sometimes. Yeah, the monetization people would come in and go, we've monetized it a bit. Oh, good. It only just only in a way that we see fit. Right. I mean, we've been asked to, I've been, I got asked to do a Super Bowl commercial using it. And it's coming out next week. I can't remember a really good deal.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I did a puppy bowl commercial earlier. I'm for sale. Church lady is locked and loaded first of. No, go deep. By the way, first of all, I'm ready. I'm going to set up. I've done Dana and I both, obviously, sell out kings here. We've done, but we all are.
Starting point is 00:16:31 We do corporate gigs, and when you do them, they go, our CEO, do say something about it. I don't even know if the guy works there. He's like, when you get up there, he's got three balls, he beats his wife, do something about that. Just throw it in there, mix it up, throw it in the middle. And then you go, and then you do it, and everyone goes,
Starting point is 00:16:48 what? And you go, this guy worked with you. He just told me, so they try to do that. And that's kind of what they want to do to CEO, like, Rostum or something. And you go, it's not even funny. It'll probably be hard. Sometimes they're drunk.
Starting point is 00:16:59 And I was playing Earth Wind and Fire was supposed to. I was opening for them. The CEO got drunk. The CEO got drunk. I was, the CEO got drunk. It went on for like two hours. So I was gonna pay a lot of money. They go, you can only do 15 minutes, but I went over a little bit.
Starting point is 00:17:13 And I guess Earth and Wind came out, but fire wouldn't. Yeah. That was a long way for that joke. That's a good joke. Yeah, I don't mind it. Did you really open for them? I did open for them. I opened for a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Tower of power, Todd Rungrin, you know, Robert Palmer. Really? I bombed every fucking time. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Your hero will be on in a second before, first, Dan and Garfo. Pfft.
Starting point is 00:17:35 They must have ruined your name when you first saw my god. Oh my god, everybody. I mean, how would they say it? Well, they just try to make it sound somewhat ethnic. And they're like, give it up for Baklava Rodriguez. What's the... But in high school, I was Zach Gellafagot-Nakis.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Which is... That hurts. I was dating a car keys. Now, Zach. Zach,! ¡No, no! ¡No, no! ¡No, no! ¡No, no! ¡No, no!
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Starting point is 00:18:29 Sim, la marca número 1 en Emilio Marquetinha Automatización, empieza hoy mismo en Mail Sim.com, vas a vender a tus públicos de marcas competidoras en número de globales de clientes en 2021-2022. The first ferns I saw, these ferns are like tall pine trees by now. When I saw the first one, I didn't know what it was. Someone just sent it to me and said, look at this. And so I thought it was a real interview and then it was Natalie Portman who I love and so I was, of course, in a Jell's rage immediately. And then you were saying, you had great jokes and that I won't repeat them
Starting point is 00:19:06 because I'm not good at that. But you said so many jokes. And it was so, and for her to play along, and I thought it was real for a while, and then I go, Jesus, this is so weird. And then it took me a while to figure it out too long. And then, then, so I started going, oh, this is great.
Starting point is 00:19:22 And then when you would do them, you obviously didn't overdo it. You didn't do too many, they weren't super long. It was just a great, great bit that lives out there on the internet which everyone should see. I don't know why I'm going with this, Dana Jumping. Would you like to say anything in your defense accent? Wow, I mean speaking of that, when we shot shot it that when we shot in a garage and I think we shot that one in garage
Starting point is 00:19:49 Right around here right in Hollywood somewhere and the the thing about that one is There's a line in it not to be vulgar, but it's a Something about did you shave your, okay. You said, you hear it? She was in V for Vendetta. Yeah, and then there's a punchline, did you shave your V for vagina or something? Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:15 That one caught me off guard. To Natalie Portman, in a garage. Yes. In a garage. In a garage, right? Which moves tools about. By the way, I barely understand that joke. They got it.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I know. I think I don't know. It doesn't quite know. There's something that's funny. The fact is funny. I think it's the fact that I'm asking this. Yes. So anyway, if I remember correctly, she was quite good with the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:20:41 And then we sent it to her, just to show it to her. And I had asked that joke to be left out of it. I said, can you edit that out? We'll send it to her. And her note was, where's that vagina joke? Oh, really? Oh, I love her. By the way, just we didn't know if that was the exact note.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Where is the vagina joke? Something like that. Like something on the bun. Yeah, by the way, there's a dog in that dinner. She's on the hip, me too. Yeah, she's on the hip, but there's a dog that you keep cutting to, which is even funnier. Yeah, that was, I think that was a real dog.
Starting point is 00:21:16 The dog rolls over his back and then when something dies or just sits there, then they cut over the dog. Just, it all works. And then I, Sean Penn won, Sean they cut over to the dollar. It all works. And then I, Sean Penn won. Sean looked very cool in that one. Yeah, I'd be scared of that one. And then, and Sean Penn can, yeah, I had a fight with him. I was in a dress at the time, but, you know, he said,
Starting point is 00:21:38 you can hit me harder. Yeah. I would like to one day talk to him about the one we did. Because he was ringing it up, because it was. It was an interesting day. Well, was he truly a center? Was he a great actor? He was very quiet.
Starting point is 00:21:55 He's a good actor. So he can. Or he's a good actor. Um, um, ha ha ha. And I, I think he may have been ready to deck me in real life. I don't know, maybe he was doing a method thing
Starting point is 00:22:10 and I don't, so he held it so serious that you weren't sure if he was serious, he might have been. Yeah, and I have worked with him. I mean, I know that I know him, but he has a good sense of humor. He's really funny. Yeah. Yes huge laffer and It loves to go see stand up, but I in that moment It was I remember why was it something you was it a line that you gave you said something?
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah, weren't you playing your brother or something in that? I was playing this over the over the well, it's not really over top. There are people like this in the south. Really into him for the wrong reasons type person. Okay. And how does that guy talk? Well, it's based on a character I used to do in high school called the, I think his name was a, of the Affeminate racist. And I remember that Skittles, yeah, but so that's great. So it's just a guy that talks like they yes. And so friends of mine that were black in high school would bump me in the hallway,
Starting point is 00:23:27 so I would, this character would be released. And I would say to them, my mom told me not to talk to black people, and they would go crazy with die laughing, because they understood at the time that I was mocking it all. You know, so that's where that came from. That was as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:23:51 Well, there was something Dana where he goes, Sean, and he's doing this, and he's sort of prodding, he goes, did you get in that? I'd get in that Hollywood just so you could go to all the parties and all the wrong reasons that Sean wouldn't want. Sean is very funny, unlike his persona out there and so I like these going along with it But he was so serious then he goes I can walk over there knock you the fuck out right now And even I was like god damn he got a good read I think he knew it was funny and interesting I think he was good. I don't think he was offended. I'd like to ask him. We haven't spoken since
Starting point is 00:24:24 His kids and my kids went to school together, or at least played sports together up in Northern California, so I'll talk to Sean. Yeah, ask him. Ask him. I'm curious. Hey, man. I want to smoke. If you could smoke and not get diseases,
Starting point is 00:24:41 I would definitely be smoking right now. There's nothing cooler, right? It's like, tell some more, Zach. Anyway, can we go back to you as a young person then? Like, you strike me as an introverted extrovert, like you're shy. In a way, I think we are maybe. Well, I think I am, but yeah, well, it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Anyway, but then you have this powerhouse thing that comes out like in high school. Did you go to the theater group or are you just funny with friends or what were you like in grade school, high school, just walking around? Just walking around. Just walking around.
Starting point is 00:25:15 This is the Beverly Hills. I mean, I think I was somewhat quiet, but I think, I mean, humor in my family was seen in very high regard. So my cousins, my brother, my family is funny. I kind of watched them even as the quiet person I thought I was or I think I was. So I was kind of this more kind of observant kid that thought maybe one day I could through my observations maybe make a thing out of it. And you were thinking that like at age 8, 10, 12, I mean, but young, young, you got the idea maybe you would do this for a little bit. This
Starting point is 00:26:02 is gonna sound weird but it was at my parents' conception of me. Mm. That sound weird at all. My word to sound, I was killed. My brother Brad, I got three older brothers. He swears he remembers being born, and he's serious. Really? Yeah, he has a photographic memory,
Starting point is 00:26:19 just some remembering born. Yeah. I'm not kidding, Brad, the guy that's going on. Funny, younger really pays off, and I think that's for all of us. I'm not kidding, Brad, the guy that's going on. The guy that's going on. Funny, younger really pays off. And I think that's for all of us, like at dinner or at school, like I was at a school that was, I was a little bit of a Pipsqueak
Starting point is 00:26:33 hard to believe. And always bully and push around. But if you could, I would quietly say jokes to my friends or under my breath. But that kind of, if you get a little something, that's all I had. I wasn't super athletic. I was, so if you have some little hook like that, you go,
Starting point is 00:26:47 ooh, my dad thought it was funny. People think it's funny and then you go, and then you try to, maybe that's kind of like that for a lot of comedians. Well, the tall guys didn't have to do anything to get the girls. We, on a bioevolutionary level, we had to be funny. Zach, you're not that short.
Starting point is 00:27:05 You're, you're, you're, you're, I'm around six two. Okay. That's a gigantic chair. It's, it's an optical illusion. Same with me, I look like I'm a foot shorter than you. Look at this. No, that's a good, that's a good, places.
Starting point is 00:27:20 No. Okay. I like it up here. So, Zack, so you're, did you take theater? Did you go into that kind of stuff or you're just like? I just was not I Never did I did public speaking competitions. What I did that once
Starting point is 00:27:39 How's that conversation a lot? It sounds good. I wrote the speech. And it was called you and I and tomorrow. Seriously? Yeah, that was the name of it. Yeah. Was it a public serve? It was a... I don't remember how an eye and... We should do a remake.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, there was a speech contest in North Carolina, locally, and then you could go to the state finals, and my brother and I were kind of into it. But never really, no theater, none of that. My mom tried to get me to go to the School of the Arts in North Carolina. She did urge me to go there. She knew that I had, I mean, she knew that I was eager to figure it out. What's this, we school here?
Starting point is 00:28:23 School of the Arts in North Carolina. It's a really good school in Winston-Salem. So she really, she was your champion. Play she bought it. Oh, my mom was, my mom would be like, he's quiet, but I swear he's funny. Like I would hear say that to my aunts and stuff. And did she want you to play piano?
Starting point is 00:28:40 Where did you learn to play piano? Oh, right. So I learned piano. I don't know how to play piano. That's piano. I don't know how to play piano. It's a, I don't know how to read music. So I don't know why I was getting ready to tell you, well, I learned piano. I don't know piano.
Starting point is 00:28:55 You seem pretty good to me. Well, I can fake it. But for some reason, only sad music comes out of me. Yeah, and it goes well with the jokes You know, didn't you do a VH1 show and I think you why do I think there's a piano at the beginning of that? I did I had a I had a talk show in VH1 years ago and There was the piano was involved during the monologue And I think that's why I had to show it because I was like a musical act at the time.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Was it sort of a variety where you could, because you're not, you didn't want to just interview like Johnny Carson like normal straight interviews, I'm sure, right? I was just trying to figure out the format had been beaten to death and I just was different, but interesting, and sometimes funny, funny was kind of last, but on that show, we would have, we would have it make it look like no one wanted to come to the show, so we would have one person in the studio audience,
Starting point is 00:30:01 but we would have a laugh track of a six-year-old. So it was very bizarre. audience, but we would have a laugh track of a six-year-old. So it was very bizarre. Yeah. It was really a weird show. Can we find this somewhere? I know. Most of those episodes are dramatic. Can we find this in a six-year-old?
Starting point is 00:30:18 It's, I don't think they're online. I don't know if they are. I remember, what was it called? Do you remember? It was called 60 minutes. Nope. It was it was called late world. Late world? Yeah. How old do you when you do late world? Uh, 30, 30, 30, 30, you know. So how long have you been? I don't know. How old I was at 35, maybe. I need numbers.
Starting point is 00:30:46 How long did you do stand up in clubs before you got that show? Oh, I was still doing stand in that show failed and I went back to do it in open mics. So I had a talk show on VH1 and as soon as it ended, I was like, well, back to the old, so I just went back to the coffee houses in Culpeercity. And you weren't really making a living then it stand up
Starting point is 00:31:05 or just a little bit. There was a time where I could go on the road and, you know, do make a living. And I was making, before, I was making a living for a while on the road, yeah. And you had an hour? Of, I had an hour of, sometimes the material was a little bit too bizarre sometimes and I there was some alienation.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I mean, it was funny when you were telling me about I opened for this sugar hill gang once and I said a hip hop, hippie. And I remember getting kicked off stage because I made fun of the Bible. And I didn't realize I was performing at a Bible school. And this is how they kicked me off. The woman just came up to the stage and she goes, hehehe.
Starting point is 00:31:56 So yeah, all those shows, all those shows. Did you have a Southern accent when you got rid of it, or did you actually have a little bit of a... No, I mean, I'm going home in a couple of days and I it'll just go back. It just it turns back on. It's just as a it's an easier way to it's North Carolina. I mean, what is a well, not Mississippi. No, it's like Appalachia North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Appalachia and a lot of people speak through their nose there. And it's like, how are you? And if you go east in North Carolina, it's very breathy, and it's really beautiful, and it sounds nice. But so there's all kinds of different accents that you must pay attention to. What did you think of Daniel Craig's accent and knives out?
Starting point is 00:32:39 Why thought it was kind of cool? But I always find Hollywood always does the gum with it when I declare I have never seen such a, you know, well, I thought we all, we all, okay, so, we got a little bit of that. I think we got a little bit of it. It's a little fog horn, yeah. But I thought, I thought it was great. I mean, he's pretty, he's a cool.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It just has to be funny or sound weird. I think no one's that checking. But you can go through all of the Southern accents. I'm pretty good with knowing where in the South someone might be from. I'm pretty good at it. Okay. I did a movie and a... I'm talking about this.
Starting point is 00:33:19 What about from? You don't seem to know where I'm from. You don't know. He doesn't know. You don't know where I'm from, boy. I had a friend, I had a friend from Mississippi. He kind of talks like this. I'm from Columbia Falls, Mississippi. Sounds just like No More Pile. That's right. Be a rope.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And he reels in sear fella. Well, these snaky fellas trying to get your money, Dana. These are direct quotes. He'll be thrilled. He got laughs. But Dana, I did a movie where I was sad. I was sad. Alcenseeer, Feller, what, these snikey Fellers trying to get your money, Daina? These are direct quotes, he'll be thrilled he got laughs. But Daina, I did a movie where I was playing, they go, you're gonna play New Hampshire accent. So first of all, that's a tough one.
Starting point is 00:33:55 I feel, I smell an Oscar immediately. So I say, they go to a dialect coach. So I go to dialect coach, I'm like, doing it, and they go, that's a little more Boston. I took two lessons, right? For the whole movie. And I'm like, listen, Guy, and they're like, that's more in it, and I go, I pulled her aside.
Starting point is 00:34:16 I go, here's a deal. My audience is four to eight year olds. All right, I just have to sound funny. All right, they're not gonna go in there with a microscope. They go, oh, he's sound. If I just don't sound like Joe Dirt won movie, they'll be happy, all right? They'll go, oh, that one's different.
Starting point is 00:34:34 So it was a kids movie, and they're trying to get you to do a head-to-head show. They're not supposed to be kids movies. They turn into it, because you're the star of it. Yeah. Because all my movies aren't TBS, because it's the Grown-ups channel. And it's just a rotation of every move.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I could have helped you. Do you remember those petridge farm commercials? Petridge farm. Petridge farm. Fake, indelicious. That's the only way I could do New Hampshire. Petridge farm. Is it an inner confacanize it?
Starting point is 00:35:00 Petridge farm. Come on, different blue berries. Strawberry, flavors. That's the expert over here. I don't know. Let's take a tour of the South berries. Strawberry, flavors. That's the expert over here. I don't know. I don't know. Let's take a tour of the South again. Zach, I'm playing.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Miami, what do they sound like? I'm playing Durham. Durham, is that a city? That's a city that's where Duke University is. And I'm excited to playing that, but any trouble? Should I worry about? That's where my dad's from. That's where he's...
Starting point is 00:35:23 I don't have any comps left, but I'm... Pfft! Pfft! Pfft! Pfft! I swear my dad's from, that's where he's... I don't have any comps left, but um... AHHHHH! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Oh, you were in the, how far did you get in the scouts? I heard you were in the scouts. Uh, it was an Eagle Scout. Is that the complimentary molestation? Where's my nose? Where do my nose go? Oh, here they are. Hey there, I'm kidding, Zach. We're taking that out.
Starting point is 00:35:54 No, no, that's fine. We're taking that out. No, that's fine. Or we're putting on a loop for promotion. Zach's like, that was actually written down. I'm walking out of it. That was actually written down, I'm walking out of it. Oh, well let's ask him about what you want to ask. I want to, well, we can start with the hangover.
Starting point is 00:36:14 You were in the hangover. This is like, this is like, this is like, uh, the... Well, hangover was like, you were in the hangover and then everyone applauded. That calls... A plot! God damn it. They don't know, They don't know. Hangover of the last 20 years, the two that got me the hardest as comedies,
Starting point is 00:36:30 because I don't really, I see all the strings. Hangover and Tropic Thunder. Those are the two that caught me flat-footed. Yeah. And you were in which one? I was in, um, I was in the, hangover, yeah, in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:36:44 So you go from comedians, comedian, people know you, you're going along, you've done a special live purple onion, stand up special, and then Todd Phillips calls and you go on what happens next. Are you, are you the first choice for that or do you know, do you remember? Uh, it's a real question. I, I mean, listen, I've been a fallout on every movie I've ever done. Yeah, it's, oh my God.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I don't know, that's not a mean question. That's just like, sometimes the movies come together and they go, we got, this one would be a good accent. Obviously, Zach's great. It's a funny part to play. And they let you do, it seems like Todd, who seems like a really funny, cool guy, let you do what you do.
Starting point is 00:37:24 And, well, I think he I think he was doing I think he was going to stand up clubs I think that's what he had told me and then that's where he knew me from because I don't know if I'd done much otherwise To be seen on on screen, but So he asked me an audition. I think I was living in Canada and I just, I'm in terrible. I just don't like the audition. I'm, it's, I'm not, I've always been bad at it. I, I usually make, I usually get, I mean, I was just, I have so many stories about, I we all do, but, um, Could you tell us one of a really?
Starting point is 00:38:05 Well, I mean, there's just, I mean, I don't want to, but there's just so many, you know, I just was so not into the process of it. I mean, the first time I ever got a laugh in an audition was when I first auditioned for a drama. And they were laughing at me. Well, sometimes the problem is, if you're a comedian, you read things and it feels sort of stiff because you're a bit quirky or charactery and so when you're reading super flatlines that are just written for a generic comedy, they'll
Starting point is 00:38:46 tweak them later if it's him or somebody, but as is, it's sometimes for your personality, maybe it doesn't, it's not hilarious when you do it because it's so basic, but if you brought your stuff to it, then it's funny. So maybe he saw, if you could bring your weirdness to it, then it's great. Well, I think also at that time, I was a bit older and I think I was kind of not to be cavalier about it, but I think my attitude was, well, this is probably gonna end soon, meaning this pursuit of whatever this is.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Oh, I see. I don't really care as much because I'll just kind of try to exit without caring. If that makes any sense. Oh wait a minute. So you were that you get the hangover thing and this is pretty much a mic drop. I'm out of here. No, meaning I'm not going to get this job.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I will just I think my mindset then was you know, I tried doing Chobas, you know, at that time, I mean, you know, you kind of beat yourself up sometimes and I didn't really know what I was doing. And I mean, who does? But anyway, I flew down from Canada in audition and I think I remember leaving getting into my stretch, Hummer. So you were doing well.
Starting point is 00:40:05 I'm telling Sugar Ray to scoot over. Sugar. Oh God, I laughed, but I did a pilot with 20 years ago. But then I got the job and then you do the show up for work and you start acting in it. I remember going to dinner with the other actors with Bradley and I forget the other names. And Helms.
Starting point is 00:40:37 It's only Bradley, who gives a shit about the other guys? Bradley Cooper. Bradley and Ed and I think Ken and we were all at dinner and I said to them, this movie seems good. I've never had this feeling before. So I felt there was a real kind of energy on set there that was, you know, sometimes that happens and it's not,
Starting point is 00:41:07 it doesn't translate to the screen. It's great energy on set and everybody's like, well, this is, and but that one Todd is a very good editor and a really good director that knows how to steer that stuff. Sure, you sort of need all the components and you can lose it anywhere along the way, but if you do it and you're doing like, maybe you're doing extra takes where you're just trying different jokes, the screwing
Starting point is 00:41:26 around. For plus we all remember the hangover wasn't a huge movie and it was probably not a big budget and no one, you're not going into it going, oh, I just got the Avengers. It's like, oh, I just got a comedy. It could go away. It could be nothing, but it turns, it blows up obviously in a huge thing.
Starting point is 00:41:43 So it would be probably even scarier to audition for something. If you know it's that big, like people that are auditioning for the sequel are like, holy shit, this is a huge movie. Yeah, I had to audition for the sequel. You did? That's so cool. That's cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I had this guy come up would. How? That's, that's sharing for Brad Sprin. You were so good in the first one. That's great. I had this guy come up to me once and he goes, hey, are you an actor? I go, yeah, he goes, are you the guy from Hangover 2? I don't even know how I answer. I think I just walked away.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I didn't know what this, I think I just walked away. Where's the baby now? He's still standing there. I think I did, like, talk to him. I think I did, like, talk to him. I think I did, like, talk to it. I think I just walked away. I didn't know what to... Where's the baby now? He's still standing there.
Starting point is 00:42:27 They did like... Todd! He had a baby! That sounds like Brody. Brody! Oh my God. Brody Stevens is a great comedian. No, he's a perfect friend.
Starting point is 00:42:43 He's a perfect friend. I was friends with. He toured me for a while at the very end and passed away. And God, I was just thinking today, because I knew you were close to Brody. And so I was clicking from your stuff, because I don't honestly, I don't know who you are. And I was clicking from you and then I'm jumping
Starting point is 00:43:00 over to Brody, trying to remember all his jokes. And I just saw a clip of him, classic Brody, not bombing, but getting so mad at the crowd in the crowd, it's like, we didn't do anything wrong. They're just not laughing that much. Right. And he's going, arms, cross negative. And he was doing all his jokes.
Starting point is 00:43:16 I'm dating a girl from Greece, the movie, she's 75. You know, I was trying to think of all these jokes he has, Dana. I don't know if you knew him, and everyone, I remember we'd stand in the back and laugh. I, uh, that talk show in VH1, I was talking about earlier. He was the warm-up guy, and I would like peek behind the curtain and see what was going on. And Brody just would be going,
Starting point is 00:43:39 WAPER, or Big Mac, you make the call. That's actually probably pretty good. I mean, for warm-up guys, just energy, right? You know what? He did it on our lights out show, and I'd peek my head at the same thing, and they'd go, hey, something's going on up there, and he's going, you're negative, you're negative.
Starting point is 00:43:58 You don't deserve David Spade. He was in police academy for, he's from Michigan, and he's not coming out until I give the green light. And I'm going, what? Why is he yelling at the crowd? The crowd is like nine people, you know. But he had so many goddamn fucking children. One of my favorite moments with him,
Starting point is 00:44:19 God, it's early on, and we were hanging out. My apartment in Santa Monica and Margaret Treu was on television and we were just watching in silence. I don't mean it like that, but we're just watching it. And after a couple of minutes, Brody just yells at the TV, not trying to be funny. She had a sitcom, why come me don't have one? LAUGHTER
Starting point is 00:44:46 LAUGHTER Why come me? Why come me don't have one? He answered his own question. LAUGHTER He goes, I'm doing pretty well in show business. I, uh,
Starting point is 00:45:00 I finally, I'm finally able to take my mom out to lunch and pay for her house. Is that it? I'm not a to take my mom out to lunch and pay for her. Is that it? I'm a professional mangler. One more. I'm not a member of the Mile High Club, but I did masturbate on the Ferris wheel at the Pomona County Fair. So many jokes. He was so funny. But I'm saying it because he was in, I think you put him in one or two things, because he goes, you know me, I'm the guy from Hangover.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Hangover to, do date, cut out of funny people. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think Todd saw Brody, Todd Phillips saw Brody, while I was doing shows at the old Largo. So that's why Brody's in those movies. I didn't have anything to do with it. If I had something to do with it,
Starting point is 00:45:50 he wouldn't have been in any of them. Todd's got a good eye though. Yeah. But I miss him so much. I was missing him so much. David, I may have told you this the other day, but there was an apodcast, so I'll say it again. But I was missing this guy.
Starting point is 00:46:09 We're talking about Brody, and he was known for alienating audiences. That was one of the reason I think comics like... Like Charms, yeah. ...proversely is we would all rush out to see him turn audiences away. Yeah. We had a few of those in San Francisco. And he's bombing in Montreal who used to have the space belt team and blah blah blah. And
Starting point is 00:46:35 Brody just looks out at the audience while he's bombing and he yells out, no wonder the The expose left. He was a pitcher at ASU, I think, and he goes, I threw 88 with movement. He would say that in the middle of his act too. A very funny guy, I don't know. I wanted to read all his jokes. So, hang over, worked out for you. Is that the end of that story? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Did you, when, so this is the first time you're getting actual extra, extra money. Did you buy a Roller Royce or anything? I mean, what did you, did, so this is the first time you're getting actual extra extra money. Did you buy a Roller-Payton or something? What did you do anything with, what was that like when you first had extra extra money? Yeah, I bought four elephants. Smart. No, I, I mean, I bought a place in North Carolina, a farm.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I'm not a farm, but a place to try to be a farmer. For a nickel. But I don't live there anymore, but yeah. I got that, and then I... You went home and bought them all. Just a show off. I don't remember. I got a lot of fur coats for all my aunts.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Sure. Did you... Everybody gets a fuck out. Everybody gets a fuck out. Did you like to farm, right? I mean, my fantasy is to be a farmer one day, but I look, that's hard work. It's like for some entertainment guy to say that is kind of but that's what I I feel like you've not not farm It's more gardening to be honest, okay, but I have a tractor Tractor I'm getting driving around no data. It's for my in-stuff around? No, Dana, it's for my insta. Oh, I got it.
Starting point is 00:48:29 I got it. I'm masturbate. Ladies and gentlemen, I, um, you got it. Let's go. That's Brodie again. Uh, oh yeah, he goes, I did, uh, I've, I've did I've been doing porno I do a one-man scene on a yoga mat in chats worth I don't know let's talk about baskets baskets was a great show I don't have to tell this crowd you know tell this crowd Jack they know baskets That's it you only do cool stuff seems to me. I've done a lot of shit. You do a lot do cool stuff. It seems to me. I've done a lot of shit. You do a lot of cool stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:08 You do cool stuff. It seems like you do it on your own terms. Like they let you do your thing, which isn't always the case with everyone. It's sort of the dream for any comedian. Like let me just do my own thing. Kerr was always an example of like that would be fun to do something like that, where you can just do your own thing. And it's very, very hard to do those things.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I mean, people look at it and go, that's such a great show or basket. But to write it, cast it well, make it make sense. All that stuff is exhausting. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of thought that goes into it. And sometimes you get lucky. And most of the time you get unlucky. But sometimes you get lucky with things kind of come to place. I mean, I think that show,
Starting point is 00:49:49 if I could bore you with it a bit, is a, we were just trying to be, I had not seen regular people on television portrayed without, I just wanted to ground a comedy so it could be a comedy. So it's a shame I would on it with not this. I wanted to be dusty and I wanted it to be more real than I have seen, especially the comedy world. And I asked John, a cry's all the director of it, can you can you figure out
Starting point is 00:50:20 this this this dusty world I'm trying to tell you about in this rodeo clown world? So, you know, we did our research a little bit and started casting and writing it. And, yeah, it's a show I'm, it was so fun to work on. And, yeah, it was a lot of fun and a lot of work. I was just thinking about Louis Anderson when I was talking about it and I just heard he died today He would have fucking laughs. Yes I would have every comedian laughs at any joke like that. You know When did that strike you when did you figure that out? I'm gonna have ask that any joke by that, you know. Oh my god. He was the, he, Louis was. When did that strike you?
Starting point is 00:51:05 When did you figure that out? I'm gonna have Louis play my mom. Louis CK and I were, talk. All the Louis. Well, there were two Louis in this conversation. Louis CK and I were talking about the mother to cast the mother and he was asking me what I was thinking about. And I said, well, oh, I'd already called this British actress
Starting point is 00:51:27 name Brenda Bleffen, who I really, really like. But for some reason, that didn't work out. And or she didn't get the email. That's what I think. There was just no tuning at the email. That's what I think there was just no tuning at the email. So I was telling Louis I was kind of imitating the voice. This is a story I've told him many times but and I was doing the voice and he looked at me and he goes like Louis Anderson's voice And I said, yeah. And Louis goes, should we call him? And I went, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:11 And that was it. And that was, there was this weird, Louis had, and I didn't know this, but he had been channeling his mom on stage for a long time. And that was kind of a luck, that was the lucky part about it. But I had always loved him. I loved his vulnerability,
Starting point is 00:52:32 even in a stand, if you can observe these kind of things, it's fun to kind of try to figure out. And I thought he can do it, but I don't want it drag. Right. It has to be real. The first day they put a lot of makeup on him and I said,
Starting point is 00:52:48 can we get some of that off? He's the part. So just, you know, we put some wonderful costumes on him and the makeup was wonderful. And Louis is, you know, I think when you come from such a background like he did. I think his tenderness came from pain. On cue. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:53:26 I told my managers, like, what if I say something cool? Someone wrote. Make sure you beep something. I get choked up talking about Louie. Beep it so it breaks up the ice. That's a good audience. breaks up the ice. I would die laugh at work with him. He was funny every second. Oh my God. Yeah. God, he just made, he just was so great. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:54:09 You know, I don't know. You probably knew, Louis. I, when I first got to town, I was 20, I was 20. This is at least eight years ago. I was, I was, I was. So, I don't know where, I saw Louis somewhere, and I didn't know him. I mean, I was in the hallway at the improv,
Starting point is 00:54:24 but he was nice. And, and I was in the hallway at the improv, but he was nice. And I was trying to audition at the improv of the comedy store. Those are the big ones to get in. And that was 20 and OK act. I had about eight minutes. And so he says, why don't you audition for Mitzi? And I go, oh, I don't even know how to do that. And he said, I'll bring it down.
Starting point is 00:54:43 So I went down there and met him. He went and told Mitzi on like their audition night. I don't even know how to do that. And he said, I'll bring it down. So I went down there and met him. He went and told Mitzi on like their audition night and I went in the comedy store right here. Did my set, did okay, came out in the sidewalk and sent it just to there and he came out and he goes, mm, she didn't like you. I go, aww. It's tough, man.
Starting point is 00:55:08 I auditioned there once and then you have to go see Mitzi. Did you go over to her? No, he was a middleman. He spared me watching her go. I'm sure she would have been rough for about it. He was like, yeah, 20. I auditioned and she said to me, get some puppets! It's not bad advice. Hey, I auditioned for her and nothing to do.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Nothing's happened. You got here in the main room. Yeah. Next night. Do you have anything else to ask? No, it's Fiona Apple. Do you want anything else to ask? No, it's Fiona Apple. Do you want to do something? Wait, SNL.
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Starting point is 00:56:30 The next year's flute? Yeah. You just came- You had no lines. You just came out, played and playing. I didn't know that was you, I saw it. Yeah. But it was something very indelible about that.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yeah, I remember that. It was- I still have the jump- I have the jump suit. It's in my closet. Uh, I usually don't keep any of that stuff, but I have. It's quite comfortable. I wear it in a lot in Canada,
Starting point is 00:56:53 why I'm chopping wood. But yeah, that was a flute. I remember they had like a double-thin guitar, and I was like, that seems like, can you build a flute where the guy does this? And yeah, they do. Yeah, that's a great thing about that show, as you are like, is it like, can you maybe get a prop like this?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Yeah, sure. Yeah, it's my thing. You can do anything within 24 hours. And you did, I read one, maybe you were brought in as a guest writer. Some of the days had there was a Britney Spears catch that you pitched an idea with you and Will Farrell. Yeah. 10 years before you were brought in as a guest writer. Well, I thought I was brought in as a cast member. Hmm. You were making a cast. They never tell you what you're brought in. No, I couldn't
Starting point is 00:57:42 figure it out. There was a weekend. I was like, oh, I don't, I guess I'm writing. So I wrote, looking back, I feel really bad about it, but not that it was a, there were two sketches that I pitched to her. And it was just she and I in this office alone. And Britney Spears. The first sketch was Will Ferrell. We were going to shrink him down to be the bodyguard to her belly button. You love it. Love it. Right? That sounds great.
Starting point is 00:58:20 That sounds funny. So that was basically what I said to her. I remember a tumbleweed going through the comfort stage. On my back, I mean, it's not her fault. And then I thought at the time, because she was so kind of pop sugary, I said, look, I think it would be funny if you're doing a straight interview with something like entertainment tonight, and you're just answering these banal questions.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And you happen to be bleeding from the mouth. I like it too. This sounds like a mind-to-shoot. And she just looks good. I just remember she looked at me. And then I remember looking at the ground. And the ground. And I remember looking back up,
Starting point is 00:59:19 but we made eye contact. And she goes, yeah, that's funny. She was nice about it. She was very sweet. She was very nice about it. And that's a funny, that's funny. Ah. She was nice about it. She seemed very sweet. She was very nice about it and that's a funny, that's a great show for her. Yeah, blood coming down and trying to, I don't know, I thought maybe it would be kind of a fun thing,
Starting point is 00:59:33 but you know, I mean, it didn't work. It didn't work for her. Oh, exact pop stars shouldn't really bleed on her. Oh, number five, 40. So you're monologue, I mean, the second one, where you stripped your clothes off, you had a little red jumpsuit on, and then you had a board with letters on it.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Well, I, no, no, it's fine. Well, it's something I had been doing in my standup. I mean, in my late 30s, I was going around the country with the board and a little orphan anti-dress and glitter. The dress too? Oh yeah, I have- Oh, that was in your club act? Oh, well, at this time I was kind of doing bigger
Starting point is 01:00:17 club act. Bigger club act. Can you got your club act in your regular? I was doing Uncle Tampon's comedy cave in Tampa. Oh, Uncle Tampon's comedy. No. I was doing shows. And so I had that when under a thing that I was doing. It was something I like doing.
Starting point is 01:00:38 And I was trying to be absurdist and somewhat political at the same time back then. And sometimes, you know, the only way I felt like I could pull that off or at least to have a message or two was to do something very weird. And there were a couple of political jokes buried in that that. And then I would change it from time to time and I actually got someone tried to sue me because of what was on those flip charge years ago. Really? Yeah. So I perform as little orphan Annie and close out shows and by the time I was ready to
Starting point is 01:01:21 do Saturday Night Live, I mean I think it was 39 dressed as little orphan Annie in order to go in the country. Yeah, but this bit is tough. Yes, it's very interesting and a very like, you know, much too old to be doing the other thing. Yeah, yeah, that was tough. But, they're like, John Ham to this last week, you're like, what?
Starting point is 01:01:40 I've been sitting on this. I don't even know you. Yeah, that's, yeah, I remember that bit. Yeah, God Jesus, it haunts me. Do you remember the first time you met Lord Michaels? It doesn't have to. Anything else about him? No, I don't remember the first time.
Starting point is 01:02:02 I mean, no, I do remember in his office. Yeah, in his office, when you know when you host, you go and you go into that awkward meeting thing that is very fun week. You're excited. You're coming off that hangover heat. Everyone loves you. If you're hot, you feel yourself getting less hot.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Lauren has a lot of floor. When you know your hot, you're cold. Anyway, let's bring everyone in. They bring everyone in and then they pitch all the ideas and says, yeah, he has popcorn. All day long, unsalted. Is that salted, isn't it? Butter, butter. I've always liked butter.
Starting point is 01:02:43 He's an interesting person. Giffy pop. Giffy pop. Or role-rednade's him. I don't know. He never talks about it. I don't think he knows I'm doing one. It's so bad.
Starting point is 01:02:55 But Dana's is. He asked me once on an airplane. I've been doing it for years behind the scenes, but it was too embarrassing to do it in front of him. So he asked me, he said, like, um, you know, what would you do me? What, like, what do you do? You know, and I barked at that moment, you know, but years later, I was at a restaurant in with Lauren and its two assistants in Rob Lowe in Santa Monica. And he said, you know, do it for me. So I started to do it. And I said it was just him at the board on the Wednesday night picking the show
Starting point is 01:03:27 and he would get mad and go, I still have no fucking first act. And then he would go into the bathroom. And coincidentally, this is true story. So he's doing that. And then he tells me to tell the Paul McCartney story when I met him at Lauren Michaels' house. So I'm doing a poll like this,
Starting point is 01:03:42 going on and on, like that. Lauren's looking up and going, it's could be yes, yes. And I did an impressionist tap out and it's Paul. And I'm going, doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop doop. Oh, Paul was behind you and he knew he was coming in. I had it, I get tapped out.
Starting point is 01:03:58 I once I had John Travolta, I was on stage in Denver and I'm, you know, these guys are going crazy like that. And then tap out, it's John Travolta. Yeah, it's an impressionist tap out. But anyway, Lauren, I think at this point gets it. Everyone does it, I think he's kind of likes it. I believe it's funny.
Starting point is 01:04:18 It's so funny. It's funny, it's so funny. We all love him. I mean, he's brilliant that Lauren, his isms, his life little things. A marriage is a prison everyone's trying to escape into. That's a great one. Wow, that's good.
Starting point is 01:04:36 I mean, and he's got tons of those. He talked about funny people. Were you going to live? Are you going to be around funny people? Because there's like only 900 of us on the planet in any given time. And 900 was like the perfect number. Like, really? Is that about it? Like 20 in Poland and like 18 in Europe.
Starting point is 01:04:53 There's only 900 funny people on the planet. Feels a little heavy for Poland. But Lauren, you, he's it. Little heavy. Maybe, maybe low teens. So you do the hangover, you do the basketball, you do basketball, you do basketball, you do basketball. This is a big summary. Big summary.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I have some basic questions for you. Yeah, go really out. Let's drill on the basic questions. When you give the charity, is it for ego fulfillment or to help people? It's a good one. Yeah. I think if people don't know that you've given, then you haven't given. Yeah!
Starting point is 01:05:38 Finally! Or at least that's the motto of this fucking town. When I do the wire, I call the press people the exact same time. I go, this wire's not going out without Yahoo News knowing. Let's put us all on one email. The best thing about being famous is... Uh, good table at suit plantation. I think hang on. Feature film? No. Oh my best feature. Oh. I thought it was like, looks. That's what I, that's how I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I. I just got it in there. You do what I am, Path is. Not really.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I'm not really. I'm Path is the field feeling. Oh, I do. OK, I'm that one. Yeah. You are so totally that one. I am. Can I tell you, David said that I was driving here tonight.
Starting point is 01:06:57 And David, a few years ago, a bunch of people were in the green room. And we were all just talking about stand up and when we were used to do it, how we, the old days, and David just goes, when I first started doing stand up as everybody leaves the room. And it made people start to go.
Starting point is 01:07:24 It makes me laugh all the time. I think about it all this time. No, do you or he was here two weeks ago and I talked him for three minutes and I laughed so hard. I go, I can't talk to you anymore because I knew we were doing this and I go, God, he makes me laugh so fucking hard. And then I came over here because you're one of my favorites and I start to watch you stand up and I go, oh no, and then I had to go after you and everyone's like, oh, that's not
Starting point is 01:07:43 true. And that's weird because that's a different interpretation of how I felt after that show Oh really you handed me my hat like that was a tough set Well, I do that to get in your head No, no, he's all right He left his hat on stage, so I grabbed it and he was leaving and I went back and Some Davey Crocker and it's like some and I gave it to him and I was like, hey fuck that crowd That's a good one then they go, huh?
Starting point is 01:08:18 That's That's the worst thing you can hear when you get all fucked that crowd That's just you bomb. They don't get you. That's the worst thing you can hear when you get a fuck that crowd That's what you bomb. They don't get you. That's the worst God damn it. Okay, well, let's let him wrap up. He's been good. He put in his hours help me How how what so this is a podcast? I don't know we will we'll edit it We'll find six minutes. I mean how like how what you You sit through it and you edit it, and you don't know if it has anything. How long are the, how long are the years?
Starting point is 01:08:48 Seven hours. No, they're usually about an hourish. Okay. So we just went over an hour or 10. Okay. Yeah. Are you angling for more money? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Yeah. Are you amazed how disorganized an amateurish we are? Well, I thought they were, I know. I actually, the fact that you guys, and I saw you guys get these chairs out of your cars. We're on a budget. Plenty is tight. So, I was impressed with that.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Very impressed. This is so funny. I like it. I'm a little nervous talking to that. It's fun. It's great to see you. I don't see you much. Always fun to see you on stuff. And it to that. It's fun. It's great to see you. I don't see you much Always fun to see you on stuff and it's great and no bullshit We think here we we better our people up but we're sincere
Starting point is 01:09:32 You know, you're you're one of the the Mount Mount Rushmore all-time comedians. It's so funny of our generation Yeah, very interesting dude always interesting. I I mean, very interesting, dude. Always interesting. I put, I draw a line, but she knew and will feral, only in the sense of the commitment, because we'll say no one will ever out commit me. But you commit, no one can out commit you.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Well, will is, will is will is guys, Jesus, that the way he goes and, and even does like side bets when you're at work, that he, I can't, he would he that man is I remember when we were working together at the time it was the um terrible yeah and then the news was the terrible uh Penn State uh yeah and Will's a big sports fan and he was following that stuff and I at that time I was working on getting the statue of who's pin states coach Paterno. I wanted to put that Will's yard. I'm a big molester fan I was following that case too.
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Starting point is 01:10:57 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm very much. Thanks to the audience. Thank you. Appreciate it.
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