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Welcome to Focus, a productivity podcast about more than just cranking widgets.
I'm David Sparks and joined by my co-host, Mr. Mike Schmitz.
How's it going, Mike?
Pretty good.
How are you, David?
It's nuts here, man.
The wind just keeps blowing really bad.
My life is you wait until the wind wakes you up, then you check the WatchDuty app to make
sure there's no local fires, and then you go back to sleep. So that's, that's my life right now,
but hopefully these winds will end soon and we'll be okay.
Well, we don't have the, the winds or the fires. Um,
it's been a negative 30 degrees Fahrenheit though.
The last couple of days. I don't even know if I could do that. You know,
I just don't know how I would survive that.
It's a basic basically like Hoth from Star Wars.
Yeah, and that's like the best look on it, right?
You know?
Yeah.
You add Star Wars to it.
I was once in Minneapolis taking depositions
and the whole downtown section is connected by tunnels.
Like even the homeless people live in the tunnels
because it was January, super cold.
And the deposition was like three days.
And on the third day, the witness kind of cracked
and gave me all the evidence I needed.
So I was feeling really good.
And I decided to walk back to the hotel,
which was like one block away outside.
I can't believe how cold it was.
I just can't even get over it.
But you know, growing up in California,
you just really have no ability to cope with it.
Or no clothing either to cope with it.
It's true.
It's not the heat, it's the humidity that gets you.
There you go.
Either way, we are the Focus Podcast.
Today we're gonna be talking about the new release
of the Productivity Field Guide.
I have been working hard on that now for really a year.
And this was the guide I released last year, but now I've been teaching it for a year,
learned a ton from the people taking it, and made some modifications, and I've got an
updated version.
Yeah, you've been busy.
Before we get into the specifics of the field guide, I would love to just ask you, you've been busy. Before we get into the specifics of the field guide, I would
love to just ask you, you mentioned you incorporated a bunch of new stuff from teaching it the
first time. What was the most surprising thing from teaching the material or what was the
biggest insight that you got from working with people going through it?
The big insight was I had been living with this stuff
for like 10 years and that's the problem.
When you teach something you've been living with
for 10 years is you take for granted certain ideas
that you don't make explicit and people just coming
into it will go down the wrong path.
So I clarified a lot of that stuff.
Like a good example is a big tenet of this system for me.
And we talked about it a little bit last year
when this released, but to me the foundational element
of my life are my roles.
The father, husband, Max Sparky,
all the different roles I fulfill in my life.
I like to look at that as like kind of the top level
of how I look at myself and try to improve myself.
But I use this Greek concept of arete,
which is kind of the ideal version of yourself.
And so one of the things I teach
is that you figure out what your roles are,
and then you figure out the ideal version of yourself
for each role, and you use that kind of as a compass bearing,
when you do your reviews, am I making progress?
And one of the things people would tell me is they're like,
well, the problem is, I feel like I'll never get to RIT,
so it's just constantly disappointing,
and they're getting it wrong.
I mean, you should not be judging yourself
against the perfect version of yourself.
You should be aiming at the perfect version of yourself.
You should be judging yourself against the version
of you three months ago that started the journey.
That's the only person you should really ever judge
yourself against is yourself.
Don't look at other people.
Don't look at the ideal RIT.
You look at am I closer now than I was before?
The thing you and I talk about on the show
about the gap versus the gain,
a lot of people just kind of took for granted
that they're supposed to judge themselves
against the ideal and that's not the way it works.
Yeah, the gap versus the gain is a really powerful
Powerful idea and just to summarize for people who aren't familiar with that
the emphasis is on the progress that you're making not how quickly you are able to achieve a
specific goal and
When you approach it that way you can look back at where you started
you can measure your progress forward as opposed to oh man I haven't achieved my
goal yet and that creates the motivation to keep going and ultimately I think
leads to much higher levels of productivity and ultimately you're doing
more of what matters so kind of the whole idea behind the Focus podcast, if you ask me.
Yeah, and the concept of Aruite for me changes.
Like, as a father, a good one is the dad one.
Like, as a father, when I first started doing this,
my kids were like in elementary school,
and now they're college graduates.
Well, the ideal version of a dad to a fifth grader is a lot different
than the ideal version of a dad to a high school teacher. And that's different. And
so over time, you will adjust it. So you don't have to worry about, am I there right now?
Because there is going to move on you. But the question is, am I pushing toward it?
And that's the key.
I mean, don't be hard on yourself.
It's like that's a good example of where people
were getting a little hung up and I was able to kind of
really address that with this updated version.
All those hangups people were hitting going through it
the first time and hopefully give people more of a path
towards success.
I taught this thing.
We ended up with a couple thousand people going through the course in one way or another.
I did a free course over the summer to high school and college kids.
We had the customers that came in and a lot of people in the Max Barkie Labs were beta
testers in the process.
So there's a lot of people that have gone through this
and that gives you a lot of great feedback.
Nice, so let's get into the details.
What's new with this one?
Yeah, so the course itself is 70 plus videos.
I say plus because I keep adding more.
As things come up.
You just can't help yourself.
Well, yeah.
Like I did one on analog tools.
You'll like that one, Mike.
I did it at my writing desk.
And during the video I kept saying,
well, there's an easy way to get my handwritten text to OCR
now, and I'll show you to that later.
But the video came out really kind of nice as it was. When I was editing, I'm like, I promised to do OCR now, and I'll show you to that later, but the video came out really kind of nice as it was
when I was editing, and I'm like,
I promised to show how to do OCR,
but I didn't really want that to be part of that video,
so then I ended up making a tech video
of how to use ChatGPT to get OCR
of very bad handwriting like mine.
So, you just keep adding new videos on.
So, I think it's like about 20, at it's, I think it's like about 20,
at this point I think it's 22 new videos.
The book, because this one comes with a book as well.
And the book went from 100 pages to 140 pages.
I added a bunch of text, you know,
talking about some of the different questions and ideas.
The book is in three formats.
It's in PDF, EPUB,
standard and EPUB flowable. So if you want to change the font
size or whatever, you can do all that. So try to make it as
easy as possible. And then there's two versions. That's a
standard version. You get that stuff. For the plus version, you
get all that plus a 12-week seminar. And that to me was another thing I learned last week.
Doing the webinar was, I think, a huge plus
because a bunch of people that were going through it
together could get on the call with me
and just talk about where they were having problems
and where it was working and challenges they were facing.
And to me, the webinar course surprised me
in how useful it was.
I mean, you always know those are gonna be good,
but for some reason, this topic really gets people
talking about things that are important.
And so I'm really looking forward to doing that again,
but that's a quarter long webinar series.
And the way it works is I do them at different times because I have customers like in New
Zealand but also in Germany.
So you've got to have them at different times.
I do some on weekends, but all of them get edited and uploaded to the course as well.
And then with the Plus version, you also get the full webinar series from last year.
So you get to watch all the webinar videos
from last year if you want.
So it's a lot.
And if you're listening to the show,
you can use the discount PFG 10 for 10% off.
Productivity Field Guide, right?
PFG 10.
And then if you bought it last year,
you should already have received an
email from me with a special upgrade discount. And if you did buy it and you didn't get that
email, let me know. I'll take care of it. But that's kind of the foundation of this.
This is the one productivity product I make every year. To me, it's the most important
thing I make. I mean, it's the most important thing I make.
I mean, it's the big one for me.
Yeah, I was just about to ask if that was the plan
to release the annual updates.
I know some people may not be thrilled with that,
but if you look at how much new material
that you've added to this,
the upgrade pricing that you're offering
is still a pretty great deal.
Yeah, it's a big upgrade discount.
But what I tell people is, look,
if you bought it last year and you're happy,
you don't wanna get the upgrade, that's fine.
But there's a lot of people
that do want more material on this.
And I have a lot in my system I need to get out on this.
And so I'm gonna do upgrades with it,
and it's up to you, you know, it's fine.
I'm okay if you feel like, hey, thank you a lot for that,
I get it, now I don't need any more of these webinars,
that's cool, but if you'd like some more help,
there it is, and you know, part of it is gonna be
related to the market, there's a tremendous amount of work
that goes into this, if nobody buys it,
then I probably won't do anymore.
To me, it's the, of my professional life, it's the thing I'm most proud of.
Like when I look back, I mean, all the cases I won for clients, all the field
guides I've made, none of them have ever got the kind of response this field guide
got in terms of like hearing from people all over the world who are using it.
Hearing from people.
I just got an email yesterday from somebody who, him and his wife went through in terms of hearing from people all over the world who are using it, hearing from people.
I just got an email yesterday from somebody
who him and his wife went through it over the holidays
and now they're both on track and they're very happy with it.
It's like, I love teaching about things like OmniFocus
and shortcuts and that's awesome.
And I'm glad I can help people with that.
But you don't get emails and contacts saying
you changed my life because you taught me
how to make a shortcut.
Whereas this does have the potential
to help people really kind of turn things around.
And so it, you know what I mean,
if you're at the end of your life,
this would be something I look back on
with some degree of pride, like actually I did help people.
And I don't know, I get kinda hooey
when I start talking about this stuff.
But it's just something I'm very proud of.
Well, you should be.
It's pretty impressive, everything that's in here.
You mentioned the webinars, and I agree with you that going through it live with somebody is a different
experience and you get much more out of it than when you just go through the
material on your own. That's why I'm a big fan of the cohort-based course model
but this isn't exactly that and I think this is sort of your version of it though.
Do you have currently the outline for the types of things that you're going to be covering in those webinars yet?
Yeah, but it's not finalized as we record.
That'll get added to the course that you outlined.
A lot of it will be stuff from the course, but also some of it will be kind of new stuff that came out of doing it last year.
But yeah, it's going to be 12 weeks and you're going to get your money's worth.
Nice.
But yeah, so that's been my big project is getting that kind of finished up and polished.
I spent a bunch of time, I spent some money too this year,
I got a better mic and I just kind of like,
every year the production values bump up a little bit
as I get better at it and understand it more.
So that, you know, it's been fun
kind of putting all this together.
I mean, the thing about this course for me is,
this is stuff I developed just to help myself.
I didn't really know that I would share this with anyone,
except it just started to kind of matriculate out from other stuff I was
doing.
Like it was kind of in the background of things I was making the OmniFocus and
Obsidian Field Guides in particular are ones where I kind of made reference to
some of the stuff and I wasn't sure if anybody would care.
And it was very surprising to me how much people did care and how useful it was to others
last year.
And like I said, it's a lot of good feels related to this product for me.
Do you get into the tech stack at all?
You mentioned OmniFocus and Obsidian Field Guides.
Those are two separate products which are just specifically how to use those particular apps.
How much overlap is there with this?
None. None. I really, like all of the stuff I do in it, I largely use Apple Notes for almost everything I teach. This system does not require you
to master any complex software.
And in fact, you could do it with a legal pad.
And one of my goals is I want to remove as many barriers
as possible for people to try and use
a roles-based RIT kind of system.
So I felt like me getting into using OmniFocus
and Obsidian and all this stuff to do this
is just too much.
Like you're watching, you're like,
wait, I gotta master another app just to do this?
I don't want people to feel that way.
In fact, this year, I have moved a lot
of the roles-based Areté stuff into analog because for me personally,
doing it slower with a pencil and paper seems to pay off some dividends that I didn't realize.
And I apologize every time I mention that in the course because I don't want people
saying, oh, now I got to go get a fancy notebook. It's like because I don't want people saying, oh, now I gotta go get a fancy notebook.
You know, it's like, I don't want people to feel that way.
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All right.
So with all of the videos that you added to this version, David, you gave me gave me access
to it and there were a couple that caught my eye.
So I want to ask you some specific questions
about some of the updates here.
One of the new videos is titled
Sparky's Happiness Formula.
What is that?
This is something that just kind of came to me
in teaching it and living this stuff.
So I kind of explained in the first segment,
to me the foundation of it is you pick your roles,
you get your best version of yourself,
and you keep iterating on that until you get better at it.
And I was reading, I read a lot of classic philosophy,
Hellenistic Greek philosophy.
That started for me in college
because I studied political philosophy
and I had a great teacher who really pushed me
into all those guys.
And I'm not on the stoic bandwagon here.
Actually, maybe I'm more of an Aristotelian, I don't know,
but I do definitely follow a lot of those writers,
including some of the stoics.
So I've read a bunch of stuff there,
and the thing that's interesting to me back then
was the really aim of philosophy in that era
was happiness.
They're like, okay, what is this human experience?
Like at this point, they have a civilization,
they've got bread on the table,
they've got a roof over their head.
So the point of philosophy to them was really more of,
it was a different tenor than it is today.
Today modern philosophy is like,
let's sit around and able gaze about whether or not
we live in a simulation, you know, that kind of stuff.
Whereas they looked at philosophy back then,
I think a lot more the way modern civilization
looks at kind of self-help stuff,
like how do I improve myself?
And they really, a lot of them, were thinking towards,
they called it euda-mania, but it's really happiness.
You know, what is, how does this human form I'm in become happy, given that
I have my basic needs now satisfied? And a lot of them came up with some formula, because
there's different ones, the cynics, the stoics, the, you know, the different schools, but
they all came up with the kind of some formula to it, but a lot of them kind of resolve to ethical living plus something.
And to me, it's ethical living plus the pursuit of your arati.
And the reason I realize this is not only a way to be more successful and make progress
on the things important to you, but I think it also leads to a happy existence. I don't mean that it frees you from suffering if somebody dies or you get sick or all the
things that life can throw at you, but I do mean that in general, as a human being, if
you are pursuing intentionally the best version of yourself in the areas of life that are most important to you,
and doing it ethically, it's hard not to be happy
with your existence and not want to jump out of bed
every day.
And I compare the version of myself
before I started exploring this stuff
to the version of myself now, and it's night and day.
So I call it my happiness formula.
I don't mean that I have some magic solution here
that works for everybody, but it definitely works for me.
And having taught the course now,
I've heard from people for whom
they are having similar experiences.
And this is just something I cribbed
from a bunch of 3,000-year-old Greeks.
Everything is a remix, right? Yeah, yeah. But I fell into it, is my point. And this is just something I cribbed from a bunch of 3000 year old Greeks.
Everything is a remix, right? Yeah, yeah.
But I fell into it is my point.
I just kind of fell into it.
I didn't mean, like when I started this exploration,
I was in my 40s and I was realized I had gone adrift.
You know, it happens to a lot of us, right?
I was successful.
I was a busy attorney.
I had wife and kids,
but I felt like every day I just woke up
and just did whatever was thrown at me,
and I didn't have any direction in my life.
And so I went back and started rereading the stuff
from college and this stuff just kind of,
it took years for this stuff to kind of fall in place for me,
but then I look at myself now versus myself then.
Now it's 15 years ago, and my existence
is entirely different, and I'm much happier. So I don't know, it's weird, but it's 15 years ago and my existence is entirely different and I'm much happier.
So I don't know. It's weird, but it's true. This maybe is beyond the scope of the
productivity field guide, but you talked a bit about Aruate and that obviously is very personal
and you have to identify that for yourself. The ethical living piece, do you have a definition for that or at least
what it looks like for you? I think you know, right? It's like that Supreme Court definition
of pornography. I can't describe it, but I know it when I see it. You know as you go through your
life if you're doing the right thing or not. And for me personally, that is a big deal.
I mean, everything falls apart if I don't live ethically.
And it's a challenge when you're a lawyer
because there are so many ethical challenges
you face every day and you have an obligation to your client,
but you also have an obligation to the truth.
It's tough.
That job really puts you in a sticky place sometimes.
But that's one of the reasons why I'm happy
not to be doing it anymore.
But you know it, and anybody listening I think
should probably know if they're living
an ethical life or not.
I just kind of leave it at that.
I don't try to define it.
Sure.
The other thing that stood out to me from something you said already
today with recording, but also you've got a video titled Sparky's OCR trick. I think this ties into
the analog tools. We can't just let that flow by. We got gotta dig into that a little bit. So what is this?
So I've never been able to take a picture of my handwriting
and have it turned into text reliably.
I write in block caps like an architect.
And I've done it since I think I was a senior
in high school.
My handwriting has always been printed block text.
So much so that when I took the bar exam in 1993,
they used to make you write out a handwriting exemplar
just to kind of to prove it was you.
Back in the day, that was how they did.
I'm sure they do something more sophisticated now.
But they say, hand write out this paragraph,
and that would be used against you
if they thought you sent someone else
to take the test for you.
I couldn't remember how to write a Q.
I'm so stressed, I'm in this three day test.
I'm like, how do I hand write a Q?
I hadn't written one for like 10 years.
So anyway, I write out.
And when you do the block text,
OCR gets constantly confused, it makes it all caps,
or it just doesn't do it well.
And one day I thought, just for giggles,
what if I gave it to ChatGPT?
So I wrote a prompt explaining that I write in all caps,
like an architect, block text, you know,
the capital letters are bigger
than the non-capital letters.
So I wrote out, like I took a few minutes
to make a prompt that I thought would work,
and I took a picture of a page of notes,
and it got it right on the first shot.
And then I've kept that kind of prompt
in my chat GPT history, and I keep throwing more at it
and whenever I see mistakes,
I explain to it what mistake it made
and now it's almost like a perfect engine.
I can put almost anything into it
and it gets it out of its text.
So for people who do traditional handwriting,
they've probably had for some time now
the ability to get their handwriting
turned into reliable text
on a computer, but for me I finally got it with ChatGPT.
And so I made a video showing how to do that.
That's like the most techie video in the whole course.
So good on you Mike for finding that one.
Yeah, well anything AI I'm kind of fascinated by.
On that note, a couple AI notes. Yeah, well, anything AI, I'm kind of fascinated by.
On that note, a couple AI notes. The arite statements, a couple people
who went through the course last year wrote me
and they would write their arite statements
and then they would, and the way it works is like,
you pick like, okay, let's use the example of husband.
Like, okay, I've got an orite statement
of what is the ideal husband.
So here's a couple of them.
It's a bunch of bullet points for me.
I put Daisy's needs and concerns above my own.
I always keep my promises with her.
I'm fully present.
I give more than I take.
I look for secret ways to make her life easier.
And it goes on for like, I've got like 15 of these points.
And so I write them out, and that's the RTA statement
that I look at, and then when I do the reviews,
I read that and say, how am I doing on some of these
things here I could improve upon?
But some of the people went through the course,
took theirs, and then they sent it to ChatGPT and said,
you know, this is a list of my ideal virtues as a husband.
What do you think I missed anything?
And people would basically ask chat GPT to read it
and give them ideas for additional points.
And I thought that was really good.
I mean, whatever it takes, right?
So I threw some of mine at it
and it didn't really give me much.
I think I maybe took one or two on the whole list,
but I thought that was an interesting use of AI.
And then another one was,
I took, as I was prepping the update,
I took the, because I wrote a book,
I recorded seven hours of video,
I put all the transcripts of all the videos,
and then I took all of the transcripts of all the videos, and then I took all of the transcripts
of all the webinars from last year.
So it ended up with like hours and hours
of these transcripts, and then I fed it all to Notebook LM.
And then I, so I made the world's expert
of the productivity field guide in Notebook LM,
and I started asking it questions like,
what was the most difficult thing for people to do?
And like, I started asking questions to get feedback.
And I had made a list of additional points I wanted to make
as I was going through teaching it,
but it was good to have that feedback mechanism
from notebook LM also giving me ideas of things
that I should make more clear and improve upon with this new edition.
Nice. Yeah.
I've heard a lot of people talk about notebook LM and I think the way that you're using it is pretty interesting.
I have not done anything with that.
But I think that's the real value of the AI stuff, is it can summarize everything that,
and use as a data set everything that you've created
around a particular topic.
And if you take the time to put your own arate statements,
and for me it would be a life theme,
but same sort of idea, you know, all this stuff in there,
and you've created this tool where you can kind of
just query like, hey, what's the thing that I should do
in this situation?
And it's gonna search all that stuff
and spit some things back to you.
Which again, isn't the thing that you just wanna automate,
but it's an interesting data point
and using it as a conversation partner.
Be like, hey, you said this was really important to you.
Maybe you should think about it from this perspective.
Oh yeah, I guess that makes a lot of sense.
I guess I'll do this then,
because it's in alignment with my vision and my values.
I think that's pretty cool.
Yeah, it really was useful that way.
Another thing I did with this new edition
was I published my entire RTA statements
for all of my roles, which was a little intimidating.
Last year, when I released the initial version,
I think I just gave a partial list for a couple roles.
But I felt like that stuff is so private,
I felt like I shouldn't share that.
But one of my big lessons teaching it
is people just need examples to get an idea
of how to make their own.
And the more I read it, I felt like,
there's nothing in here that's secret.
It's just like, these are the roles I'm pursuing
and how I wanna become better at them.
And I just did a block and copy.
I didn't read them again.
I just put them in a book without like checking it
because I knew I would edit myself if I did.
But I put them all in there and I just figure heck with it.
I mean, if this helps people learn it better
then it's okay with me.
with it. I mean, if this helps people learn it better, then it's okay with me.
Nice. All right. The other thing that you have talked to me about a little bit, I know it's
a work in progress and probably worth unpacking here is the whole idea of softer time blocking.
Yeah. Want to talk us through your evolved approach to your time block scheduling?
Yeah, I mean, so the course,
in addition to all the heady RTA rules stuff,
there's also a tactical section of the course.
So I think the most important is the beginning
where I explain this whole system
and you kind of come up with a way
to pursue your better self.
But then I also share some of my favorite tactics
and I'd call that hyper scheduling for years.
I really probably should call it block scheduling.
I think hyper scheduling has an implication
that it's hyper, right?
You know?
But either way, so I, there's, we do work,
I work with the people that go through the course
on doing block scheduling.
A lot of people are intimidated by it,
or a lot of people are like,
look, I got a job where I just can't block
that much in advance, you know,
and is there a better way of doing this?
So I came up with a couple alternatives
just in teaching the materials,
and one of them, I ended up using myself,
and I still use it as a daily driver.
So my scheduling and block scheduling has changed a bit.
My life has got to a point because of choices I have made
where there's a lot of reliably repeating blocks.
Often on Mondays I write blog posts for the week
and I write a newsletter and often on Wednesdays
I record the lab report, a podcast for the Max Markey Labs,
and there's just certain days that I do think,
certain days that I podcast on and do podcast prep.
So I have a lot of repeating stuff,
and that would make it easy to block the whole week out
very easily, but not everybody can do that.
So the softer approach, what I consider,
is where you write down the blocks that you wanna do.
Like maybe you start with a week list.
And I'm just using myself as an example.
Like each week I spend two blocks of sponsor time.
You know, whether it's recording ads
or corresponding with people about ads at the website
or recording ads for the shows and about ads at the website or recording
ads for the shows and all that stuff.
I do it usually on Monday and Thursday, and it's about an hour each.
I know that's a block that I'm reliably going to need.
In my list of weak blocks, I'll have sponsor one, sponsor two.
Then on Sunday, I'll handwrite in.
I can do this analog or digital.
You can pick your poison in terms of tools,
but you can say on Monday and Thursday
I'm gonna give a block to them,
but I don't put the time in.
And some of this grew out of talking to Khrushchev,
who talks about kind of like giving yourself the out
of not picking up a block every day,
but just considering it.
But mine are a little more firm than that because I actually do need to get these done.
But I give myself flexibility as to when it gets done.
And that's just an example.
I have them for writing.
I have them for research time and all the different things that I do.
And I've got a series of these each week that I kind know, I kind of make fit in as I go through the week
and as the week evolves.
Like if something happens with the family
and I need to spend, you know,
a bunch of time dealing with that,
then those blocks won't happen that day, that's okay.
I can push them to the next day.
But they don't really get a time until the morning of.
And then, or the night before,
because I actually do it the night before.
But when I'm actually right on the day,
then I'm saying, okay, I am gonna do that sponsored block,
I'm gonna do it at 1 p.m. tomorrow.
And that's when I kind of like lock it in,
whereas the way I would originally teach it
is like you would do that on Sunday for the whole week.
And I try to be just more flexible with myself about these,
so then when you don't put it on the calendar early,
that gives you an easier excuse to move it around as needed.
So that's a piece of it.
Make sense?
It does.
It's interesting because the planning your week on Sunday,
for example, which I've heard you talk about previously,
I've always felt kind of bad
because that never has really worked for me
I tend to to time block just the day before but I've kind of adapted my approach to a little bit and and I like
What you've before I get to that I like what you've done. We're basically if I were to summarize it
You're sort of mode blocking before your task blocking. Yeah, is that accurate? Yeah
mode blocking before your task blocking. Yeah.
Is that accurate? Yeah. So you're figuring out, this is the mode that I want to be in during this time.
And then you're figuring out when right before you get there,
this is what I'm going to be working on. I think even, you know, if,
if people are averse to the whole idea of time blocking your tasks,
you probably don't even need to go that far. As long as you know,
I'm going to be writing during the next hours, when you get there and you sit down to write,
you often know this is the thing that I need to write. And that's the trick
with all this stuff I think, is identifying enough structure that you
know what to do when you get there and you've removed the barriers to doing
the task, but also you've not spent hours fiddling and planning
just to have your perfectly time blocked day
completely get blown up because life has life to you.
Yeah, exactly.
In fact, that's a whole nother topic.
I did a whole video on adaptation
because I feel like as important planning is,
the skill of adaptation is just as important because everything
changes on you. Another even simpler block scheduling technique I teach is for people
who are adverse to it. People are like, look, I don't want to do all this time blocking stuff.
I just don't want to do it. And one of the approaches I would teach is like, okay, that's
fine. You don't have to, but tell me the one thing that's in the back of your mind
that you can't seem to get done.
The sales report or the, whatever it is.
It could be a personal thing too, the taxes or whatever.
Okay, so let's say just pick the one thing
that's really bugging you.
Block just that. Figure out a time you can do that. Say next Tuesday you. Block just that.
Figure out a time you can do that.
Say next Tuesday I'm gonna do that,
next Tuesday afternoon I'll do the taxes.
All right, write that in the calendar.
But don't do any other time blocking.
Do your life as normal.
But next Tuesday, don't miss that appointment.
Do the taxes and then see how you feel.
And like it's always the,
the way people feel is always the same.
There's a sense of relief the moment you put it
on the calendar, cause it's like,
that's no longer the boogie man that is just haunting you.
No, you've addressed the boogie man,
you put him in a cage on Tuesday,
and then on Tuesday you'll slay him,
and then you'll feel a little more confident.
And I'm like, then after that,
pick the next thing
that's in the back of your mind,
the next boogie man and put him in a cage.
And you don't have to do any more than that.
Don't go any further.
Don't do any other additional blackmailing,
but just use that one trick,
just to take care of the one thing in the back of your mind,
or maybe two things.
And then, you know, so I taught that in the course,
a lot of people like that kind of approach,
but it's funny to me,
because then like three months later,
those same people would write me and say,
oh, now I'm fully blocked scheduling.
It's almost like a gateway drug,
but you don't have to go all the way with it,
but that is at least a way to get started.
Sure.
Yeah, I like the putting the boogeyman in the cage
via intention setting.
That's an interesting visual. You should definitely get some art made for that one. Yeah, I like the putting the boogeyman in the cage via intention setting. That's a interesting visual.
You should definitely get some art made for that one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
So I have my, my own, uh, update on, on time blocking, which I wanted to touch
on real briefly here and it kind of ties back to the, uh, the AI thing because
we got a, an email from somebody who I'm not going to spoil the
thing that they shared because I think this is actually a cool idea for a future
show,
but they had plugged a prompt into chat GPT to ask for a term for something.
And I thought that was pretty brilliant.
So I have been doing this like modified split time blocking ritual and I didn't
have a term for it and then I just took this approach and what I came up with or
chat GPT came up with is block priming. Now this is basically doing my time
blocking two separate times. Once at the end of the day as part of a shutdown
routine and once at the beginning of the day as I am getting clear about what I'm actually going to be doing when. And that sounds maybe
like repeat effort, but actually what I've found is it's splitting the effort. I don't think it's
any additional effort, but what it does by doing it at the end of the day, the pre-time blocking,
is I actually am more effective in hitting that
shutdown routine which I've always struggled with and the way that this
works for me to get into the nerdy details for a minute is I have mentioned
on the show an app called Morgan which I have fallen in love with it's got a
whole bunch of calendaring features but it's way more than a calendaring app
it's kind of hard to explain if If you just go look at the,
the website, it'll look like a calendar app,
but really it's a scheduling app and it helps you find those spots in your
schedule where you can take intentional action on the things that are important
to you. And, uh, not too long ago,
they added an integration with obsidian, which is like catnip to Mike Schmitz.
Yeah, yeah.
So I've got my whole Obsidian task management system.
I've got the dashboard, which shows me the tasks,
and I can go look at that and kind of get my bearings
for what's going on.
But then those tasks,
which are using the Obsidian task plugin,
can actually get
piped into Morgan and with Morgan you've got an interface where on the left you've
got the tasks. That's like a sidebar sort of a thing where you can see
everything that's due tomorrow, due today, things that are overdue, things that are
coming up in the next week, and they're all broken down into the categories. And
then on the right you've got the calendar so you put in your calendars
and you can drag your tasks then from that sidebar into the calendar
and it's not just a specific app. So this is you know to me this is better than
dragging something from an app like OmniFocus into Fantastical because if
you work with other people you probably have tasks in multiple places. So in
Morgan you can have obsidian tasks, you can have notion tasks, you probably have tasks in multiple places. So in Morgan you can have Obsidian tasks, you can have Notion tasks, you can have ClickUp tasks, you can have
Todoist tasks, they can all be listed there, and then you can drag those onto
the same calendar as you plan your day. And so what I do is I look at the things
that are coming up tomorrow in my Obsidian tasks specifically. That's the
the one that really I'm focused on right now. Although as I continue to work with more
people in Notion, I'm probably going to bring that stuff in there as well at some point.
But I'm looking at the things that are due tomorrow in Obsidian. I'm going to the daily
page for tomorrow in Morgan, and I'm dragging those important tasks onto the time block
plan before I shut down for the day. So I'm not time blocking the whole day, I'm just figuring out you know this
specific task that I have to do, I'm gonna do it at this point. And then the
next day when I get to the the co-working space generally, I like going
there, getting in the car, having that transition time of a you know 15 minute
commute, it's not that big a deal to me.
And it helps me get into, okay, it's time to work mode as I walk into that
co-working space. Then I'll get there, I'll open up the fancy notebook, I'll
open up the Morgan plan for today, and I will use that as the foundation, but then
I'll fill in a couple of gaps with the rest of the time until I've given every
hour a job. And then from there I've got the time block plan and the fancy notebook.
I'll write down the three tasks I'm gonna do
on the note card, prop that up in front of my desk
and work off of that as I go through my day.
And I love this.
I don't even know how to describe
what a difference this has made.
And it could be just anchored to the fact
that I'm actually shutting down now at the end
of the day and I'm able to disconnect from the
Open from the things that have happened during the day and I'm closing the open loops before I go spend time with my family
Or go to the basketball game or whatever
but this has been a huge benefit to me and
thank you to
to a listener TJ for the idea of using chat GPT to
coin the term block priming. I looked at Morgan I also looked at motion which is
another kind of AI planning calendar tool. I don't know if you're familiar with that one.
I've heard of it yeah. For me they For me, they just don't really resonate.
I don't feel like I need AI to help me plan my day.
I know what's important.
In fact, I've kind of gone the opposite direction.
So the way I do it now is I use the blocks as the driver.
So a good example earlier,
I'd said I'm gonna do two sponsor blocks.
Well, what am I gonna do during those blocks? Well, in OmniFocus, I've got a list called sponsor and there's,
let's say there's, you know, 15 things in there. I'll go in and do as many as I can in the time
allotted it and then I move on and I don't think about it anymore. And like if I have a list where
I'm consistently not getting the stuff I need done,
then that tells me I need to give a bigger block to that thing in my life.
And it just allows you, using the calendar blocks as the foundation,
it puts that limitation on you because you only have so much time in the day
and you can only have so many blocks.
I mean, one of the reasons why the Automators podcast
went away is because I realized I had more blocks
than I had time to do it all.
And I had to like give some things up.
And so I gave up one of my shows.
And that's the way I've been doing it.
So I kind of call it block-based task management
where the block is the unit and the task manager is just the
list you go to.
Yes. So I agree with that. I don't keep an insane list of tasks in Obsidian either. So
it's just like some big things that show up in my daily list. However, I do find that having the tasks
and the calendar events in one interface,
which I can use then, which is sort of designed
to be a time blocking tool, has been really helpful.
And just to be clear, like Morgan, the way I'm using this,
you can drag the tasks into the calendar.
You can drag them in from multiple places. And if you go to the website, they'll talk about the AI
features. I don't use those at all. I'm just using this as a calendar app with the ability to,
at the end of the day, spend five minutes to decide where am I going to do the thing that is
due tomorrow. And also kind of get a handle on, you know, if there's too many things in that list,
then I have got to be ready to to cut.
But I like knowing that the day before, as opposed to I'm walking into today and,
oh, my gosh, look at all these things that I have to get done.
If I if I see five things in the due tomorrow list,
I'm going to decide right then and there this one's not getting done. If I, if I see five things in the do tomorrow list, I'm going to decide right then and there, this one's not getting done.
And I'm going to bump that to next week or, or whatever.
The other thing about, about Morgan is it's actually a great calendar app.
It is not cheap, but neither is fantastic.
And it's got the booking pages and all that kind of stuff.
So you can, you can, it's, it is a scheduling tool, you know, it's got the booking pages and all that kind of stuff. So you can, it is a scheduling tool.
You know, it's given you everything that you need,
not just to plan your tasks by using a time blocking,
but also to wrangle schedules and calendars
with multiple people.
And I think it's really well done.
Yeah, no, I get it.
And like I have used the feature,
the way you described where you drag a task
out of OmniFocus and put it on to Fantastical
and it creates a task for it.
But I just don't do that either.
I really just, I think we're kind of doing the same thing.
I'm just doing it the hard way
and you're doing it more technically,
using the link between Morgan and Obsidian and your other applications.
I think the important thing for me is that we are both bumping up against the limitation of time
when we do the planning, which allows us to be a little more realistic about what we do.
Yes. And just to be clear, the way that the integration works,
you're not syncing back to Obsidian,
I'm gonna do this task at this time.
It's literally just a planning tool.
What is nice is that at the end of the day,
when I am doing my block priming,
I'm also looking at the tasks that I scheduled that day,
and I can just check them off.
The only thing that gets synced back to Obsidian
is that this task was done.
And then whatever repeating setting I have for those,
like for example, I've got one for
publish the focused episode that goes every two weeks,
and it's linked to the checklist
that I've gotta go through before the episode gets published
just to make sure that I don't
forget anything. And because it's all plain text using that Obsidian Tasks plugin,
I can check the box in Morgan and then next time I go into Obsidian, it's deleted that previous
version of the task because that's the way I have it set up. And it's created the next version and
it's adjusted the due date appropriately and all that kind of stuff. So that's the way I have it set up. And it's created the next version and it's adjusted the due
date appropriately and all that kind of stuff.
So that's the thing that really clicks for me
is that it's not just an add-on sort of a thing.
They actually worked with the developer
of the Obsidian Task plugin, which is the foundation
of my crazy task management system, which I've got a video.
I'll put it in the show notes that people really want
to see what that looks like. But that's really the glue for this is that it's
built off of that Obsidian Task plugin. And that integration is just so nice. And it's got these
little visual flourishes. So like when you check the box to complete the task in Morgan, you get
the little confetti, you know, the little dopamine hit like, hey, you got something done. Good job.
you get the little confetti, the little dopamine hit, like, hey, you got something done, good job.
So yeah, I'm very impressed with this app. And I've seen people talk about it for a long time. I mentioned this in the video I did on this block priming. Danny Hatcher is one person who I've
heard rave about Morgan for years. And I've looked at it and it's kind of, I don't really get that.
Why does anybody need this? And then when they added the Obsidian tasks integration,
I tested it out for myself. And I was like this? And then when they added the Obsidian tasks integration,
I tested it out for myself and I was like,
oh, I get it now, this is great.
Well, I guess I gotta look at it again, Mike.
But yeah, it is a nice looking app.
And it definitely looks like kind of like
the calendar for Obsidian, right?
So that's a whole different thing.
Like if you're all in with Obsidian, why not?
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All right, Mike, what are you reading these days?
I am reading a book for Bookworm naturally,
but I wanted to make sure that I mentioned it here
because it's fascinating.
It's Poor Charlie's Almanac. And the story of this is it's a book by Charlie Munger. So it's
talking about his life. It's got reflections from his kids. It's got talks that he gave.
But the real interesting thing about this is that it's published by Stripe Press. and there is a free online version of this book that is just absolutely
beautiful. It's a
incredibly well-designed
webpage. So I will put the link to this in the
show notes for people who want to take a look at this, but the website has a bunch of additional
photos and things from the life of Charlie Munger, which I guess people aren't familiar with him.
He's the right-hand man to Warren Buffett with,
forget the name of their company,
Berkshire Hathaway, is that right?
That's it.
Yeah, so very successful investment firm.
And it's a lot of interesting tidbits from his life and just kind of the lessons that he's learned
along the way. I mean, you always get the blurbs of the books and they're always a little bit
fantastic or extreme, but there was one from somebody who said that this is a million dollar
education in a book. And I don't think that's necessarily wrong because it's edited versions of a lot of his real popular
talks that he gave at business schools and commencements
and things like that.
So I am really enjoying this book so far.
And everyone should go check out the free online version.
I will check it out.
I am not reading a book.
I've been spending all my time on this update,
but I bought a book.
Does that count?
Sure.
Yeah, so I've got a book that I haven't read here.
I can't recommend it,
but it was recommended to me by a listener.
And it's called, I've Got Time by Paul Lumens.
I don't know if you've heard of this book.
It's called, The Zen Monk's Guide to Calm,
Focused, and Meaningful Life.
So somebody told me, you should check that book out.
He says a lot of the same stuff you do.
So I don't know if it's any good or not.
It's sitting here on my shelf.
As soon as I get this Productivity Field Guide shipped,
that's the next book I'm gonna read.
Nice.
Speaking of your shelf, I think maybe we'll talk
a little bit more about that in in deep focus for yes
You do it looks very nice
All right, you got any shiny new objects you go first I need to think
Okay, well I've got a long-term shiny new object
Well, I've got a long term shiny new object.
The seed was planted on this podcast a long time ago when we were talking about how I don't really have anything that I do for fun, just for me,
like just just for fun.
There's no productivity benefits to it at all.
And I think I mentioned probably on that episode, I don't remember which episode that was,
that, you know, I've been intrigued by this idea of the, uh, the steam deck.
Are you familiar with the steam deck, right? Yeah, it's a PC in a, in your palm.
Yeah, it's kind of like a very, uh, ergonomic Nintendo switch plus plus.
And I know they just announced the, uh, the new Nintendo Switch. So maybe the timing on this is terrible for me,
but I did get a Steam Deck.
And the thing that pushed me over the edge
is that I am a huge Civilization fan.
Are you familiar with the Civilization games by Sid Meier?
Yeah.
Yeah, so Civ 6 came out, I don't know, 10 years ago.
And I've been starting to see all
these ads all over the place for Civ 7, which is coming out in a couple of weeks.
And it is Steam Deck certified.
So I have pre-ordered Civ 7 and I've gotten a Steam Deck, and it is going to become my
civilization machine.
Nice, nice.
And you can play it in bed.
Exactly, yeah.
I've got a couple other games that I've collected
over Steam over the years.
Steam is available on Mac now,
so a handful of games are, if you buy them via Steam,
you can play them on your Mac.
So I've got a couple of those too, like Firewatch,
and I think there was a deal on Skyrim a couple weeks ago, so I bought that.
And yeah, I got the Steam Deck actually yesterday as we record this, so I haven't had a whole lot of time to mess around with it.
But I have played with it a little bit.
I got the OLED version, so the screen looks great.
The blacks are really black, which for some of those, atmospheric type games is important.
But yeah, this is gonna be fun.
Hopefully I don't lose too much time
to playing the Steam Deck.
Yeah, just whatever you do,
stay away from Ghost of Tsushima.
That game will take all of your time if you find it.
I remember you talking about
the open world Harry Potter game
that's available on the steam deck as well.
Yeah.
I've resisted so far.
Yeah.
Look out.
Yeah.
I, you know, I really haven't, I don't have any thing shiny.
You knew I have upgraded some of the gear.
Like we said during the show, I bought a new microphone.
I got a shotgun mic on your recommendation and that helped the audio and stuff,
but I have just had my head down
on productivity field guide so much.
I'll tell you one thing I did buy.
The plotter has now got me on their whale list,
because I bought the book, I bought the notepads,
and they sent me a thing out
where they had a time-limited notepad
with a foil stamped cover
of a Japanese temple. And I just bought it. I didn't, I'm sitting here looking at what
am I going to do with this thing? It's like, it's the same, you know, you can pull the
paper out and put it in notebooks and all that. But yeah, that was kind of a splurge
buy for me, but I haven't really spent much money lately. I've been too busy getting all this together.
So I don't have anything really too shiny and new lately.
Maybe in the future.
Well, that's all right.
Yeah, I made up for you, I think,
this time around with the OLED Steam Deck.
Yeah.
All right, well, that wraps it up for today.
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