Follow Him: A Come, Follow Me Podcast - 1 Kings 17-19 -- Part 2 : Dr. Camille F Olson

Episode Date: June 26, 2022

Dr. Camille Fronk Olson returns and explores evil Queen Jezebel’s reign, Elijah’s struggle with discouragement and loneliness,  and the still, small voice in times of trial.Please rate and review... the podcast!Show Notes (English, French, Spanish, Portuguese): https://followhim.co/old-testament/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcastYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FollowHimOfficialChannelThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Executive ProducersDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: ProducerKyle Nelson: Marketing & SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Show Notes/TranscriptsJamie Neilson: Social Media, Graphic DesignWill Stoughton: Rough Video EditorAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsKrystal Roberts: French TranscriptsIgor Willians: Portuguese Transcripts"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com/products/let-zion-in-her-b

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to part two of this week's podcast. Before we move on, let's just talk a little bit more about Obadaya. Don't you just love him? I mean, he's so real. Like, hey, I'm doing my best here and you're asking me to put myself out there in a way. I...
Starting point is 00:00:20 You're gonna blow my cover. I've been feeding these guys, and what if he kills me, who's gonna feed my hundred small p-profits here? The widow of Zeraphat is so faithful. I just so faithful. I feel like an obadiah, faithful, but like, I know what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I'm gonna be long out to dry here. But nevertheless, I'll do it. I'll do it. I just wanted to mention that that I think I can identify with Obediah going, Hey, I am faithful. That's a lot to ask. You can't prove it, but there's a lot of connections that many scholars have said the widow whose oil is multiplied in second Kings chapter 4. She talks about her husband and what a great faithful man he was. Some have wondered if that isn't Obadiah.
Starting point is 00:01:11 So it's a fun thing I always like to consider as a possibility when you see that Obadiah may have died. He may have been killed. We don't see him again after this, but we see a widow and it might be his widow and how Eli should the prophet is going to help her out in her tremendous need. We don't know what happens to Obadi.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I like him and I just like the way you told the story. You want me to what? Okay. He'll kill me. He'll kill me, but I'll do it. Look at this. Isn't this another one of our habits as well when things go wrong?
Starting point is 00:01:50 And we know we haven't followed the Lord would love to find someone else to blame it on. Verse 17, it came to pass that when Ahab saw Elijah that Ahab said, aren't thou he the trouble of Israel? You're the one that has brought this famine upon us. And this is one of those places where I feel like there's so many different ways to define Israel.
Starting point is 00:02:11 He's talking about political or the land of Israel right here. Yes. Because when we say hurrah for Israel, we're talking about the house of Israel. And covenant Israel under the covenant. A group of people there, but he's talking about my land, my country that I'm king of Israel. My kingdom, I'm king good point.
Starting point is 00:02:32 You're the one troubling my Israel, and there's so many different ways to look at Israel. You have to look at context because it can be confusing who he's talking about. But it's funny that, oh, no, you're the trouble, I have it. It's not me. Yeah, let's see. Who was it that first shook the commandments
Starting point is 00:02:50 of the Lord of Jehovah? And thou has followed Baalim. Baalim is the actual Hebrew. The I am is masculine plural. So that's the whole pantheon. You see Ashirah, and Yaman, and and Mad, and not all in there as well. Here Elijah sets up a contest. He's saying, put down the gauntlet.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Let's put a contest between our gods. You have your whole Pantheon, and oh, let's throw in all your prophets that are around, that you haven't killed, and neither of we killed them. Thank you. They're still around here, almost 1,000 of them. We get 450 profits of ball and 400 profits of the groves. So what are we talking about? These are ashuraws. Jezebel would be very intertwined here with the profits of the groves, which eat at Jezebel's
Starting point is 00:03:43 table. And let's go to Mount Carmel. Do you see the E.L. on there? That doesn't surprise us that that would have the name of God in it. It literally means vineyard of God. And we've already described Mount Carmel. It is just verdant, green, lush with vegetation. So Elijah chooses a spot that would be ideal for the worship of Baalim.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And he says, bring all your prophets, those false prophets that you claim are prophets. And then he makes this famous question in verse 21. Such a great question. Isn't it? How long halt ye between two opinions? You're right on the fence. How long halt ye between two opinions? The Hebrew word is in the idea.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You're not paralyzed there between those. You're actually waffling back and forth. It's kind of the word limp. You're limping. You kind of go over there and you go, oh, maybe this is better over here. Then back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, fascinating. How long limp you between being fascinated and entranced by the world and all the world says is important and what that God says.
Starting point is 00:04:59 How long can you limp you between two opinions? If Jehovah be God, then follow him. But if Baal, then follow him. Make up your mind. Don't try to head your bats on everything and think you can appease them all and get the blessings from all of them. And that people answered him not a word. Then Elijah says unto the people, these are Israelites, these are people
Starting point is 00:05:28 who have the heritage of the covenant, even I only remain a prophet of the Lord. Of Jehovah. Just the small caps, it really helps to see it here when it's this contest like this. I agree. But Baal's prophets are 450 men, and then we can add 400 of Ashras. I think Elijah feels alone. Later, the Lord is going to tell him that there are some faithful ones still in Israel. But you don't know them.
Starting point is 00:05:59 They're frightened of Ahab and Jezebel. Elijah feels alone. I just think anytime that we have ever felt alone, as the lone believer in an environment where people are saying, you have no idea what you're talking about. This is not true. There's Elijah. And then he says, okay, here's let's get two blocks. Now, go back to the Pantheon, who's represented. You get the chief God, L. There is. You go get two blocs. Now go back to the pantheon, who's represented? You get the chief god, Elle, there is. You go get two of those and you choose one for yourself. You can have first choice. You could choose the one that you think is the very best and then cut it in pieces and lay it on wood. Who's the wood?
Starting point is 00:06:41 There's the groves, ashara, and put no fire under it. I will dress the other bullock and lay it on wood and put no fire under. So it's even Stephen. This is we're doing the very same thing. And then we're going to each call upon our gods. And I will call the name of Jehovah. You call on all your gods. You've got a bunch of them.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Go ahead. Grab bunch of them. Go away, I'd grab any of them. And the God that answereth by fire, let him be the true God. And they all, all the people, oh, this is a good, oh, great. Yes, that's great. Sounds like the first reality television show, right? Live audience. Let's see what happens. That is great. The attention is going to be building here.
Starting point is 00:07:31 And so here come all the prophets of Baal. They dress the the bullock, put it on the wood, and then they start in verse 26 from the morning until noon. They are crying out to Ba. Oh, ye sky God. You know, it's end down fire. You're lightning bolt. Please consume this sacrifice, but there was no voice nor any that answered. So they leap on the altar. They're trying to get his attention dancing, leaping. And at noon, Eli just starts mocking them. Oh, cry louder. For he's a god, get his attention.
Starting point is 00:08:08 He's either talking or he's off hunting or on a journey or talking to somebody else. Maybe he's sleeping, talk louder, maybe he got to wake him up. I think word does is fantastic. Did their legends talk about their gods doing stuff like this? Oh, yes, that would be a rationale for what them not answering. their legends talk about their God's doing stuff like this? Oh, yes, that would be a rationale for what them not answering. It's he's not just making that up in their legends,
Starting point is 00:08:30 that's what their God, he does stuff. I mean, you were talking about that pantheon, how they hated each other and more of a human sounding dysfunctional pantheon. Cry louder, he must be asleep. And so in verse 28, what do they start doing? Cutting themselves. See, that's another way that they could get his attention. And now it is midday, is past, and now it's the time of the evening sacrifice. And sacrifice and Diverse 29. There was neither voice nor any to answer nor any that regarded.
Starting point is 00:09:09 And so Elijah said to all the people, okay, thank you. That's been an all day experience. Thank you very much. I'll try on my side. And he brings the people come near and to me. Now get this. And all the people came near and to him. Now get this and all the people came near and to him and he repaired the altar of the Lord, the altar of Jehovah that was broken down. That what does that tell you there on Mount Carmel? There must have been a place there to worship. Yeah, there used to be. But see, Jezebel and Ahab tore down all those places to worship Jehovah. How does he build up the altar now for this one? He doesn't specifically with 12 stones. And a 12 stones to remember,
Starting point is 00:09:54 12 tribes of Israel. This is bringing the Israelites back to their very roots. Yeah, this is like getting out your colonial hat and your star-spangled banner. Remember your history. He built this altar in the name of the Lord, but he now is going to add something. He's going to put a trench all around the altar. He puts the wood in order, so you got ash ra there, you got L there, and then he puts four barrels of water. There's yom, right? The sea god.
Starting point is 00:10:29 of water. There's yom, right? The sea god. And he pours it on soaks, the bowl, and also the wood. And then he does it a second time and a third time. So how many time he deserts around four times each of those three times. So 12 times he's drenching it with water. And now it comes verse 36, the time of the evening sacrifice. You just I didn't catch that the 12 because it's four barrels of water three times. Yeah. So you get 12 again there. So things are saturated. And verse 36, he then prays to Jehovah. Now, notice how we use the words here, Jehovah, to Jehovah. Now, notice how we use the words here. Jehovah, God of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel. So again, reminding them this Jacob, it's Israel. This is the God of Israel. Let it be known this day that thou art God in Israel. And that I am thy servant, that I have done all these things at thy word. Notice how heart might mind and strength. Here he says, hear me. Oh, Jehovah, hear me, that this people may know that
Starting point is 00:11:48 thou art the Lord God, Jehovah God, and that thou has turned their heart back again. And suddenly, just like that, the fire of the Lord fell and consumes this wet bullock and the wet wood and the stones. I forgot to mention that the stones, the 12 stones, that could be a knot to the other fertility goddess and the dust. There's the knot as well and licked up the water that was in the trench. Yom is no more. And the people sought and they fell on their faces and they said, Oh, Jehovah, he is the God. Yes, Jehovah, he is the God. With that, then Elijah follows the law of Moses. I've got a cross reference on verse 40 to Deuteronomy 17 versus one through seven, where the law of Moses says, if you have Israelites that truly go out after
Starting point is 00:12:48 and worship other gods, you put them to death. Deuteronomy 17 went through seven because he now says, okay, you people take the prophets of Baal and let not one of them escape and they took them down to the Brook Kishon, which is there at the base of Mount Carmel, and he slew them there. In essence, there's Mott, the death, the god, the underworld. And Elijah said into A-hab, okay, get the up, eat and drink. That's usually what you do when you're victorious in a battle, right? It's saying Elijah is victorious and he's making a hab, eat and drink. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:26 this is part of his irony and sarcasm to him. Here comes the rain. And then he goes up, they eat and drink and Elijah went up top of Mount Carmel and he cast himself down upon the earth and he put his face between his knees. Here he is, this is a prayer again. And he said to his servant, go up now, look toward the sea and he went up and looked and said, there's nothing. Because where would you see that would be the way this storm would come.
Starting point is 00:13:54 So you'd go out there on that point that goes out over the sea on three sides. There's nothing. He goes, go back and they go back seven times. There's symbolic seven, too, isn't it? And on the seventh time, there arose this little cloud. And then he said, okay, go up and say to Ahab, prepare thy chariot and get thee down
Starting point is 00:14:15 that the rain stopped thee not. Remember the story of Barack and Deborah, the prophetess with the Canaanites, that the chariot's got stuck in the mud because of the water? Well, Canaanites that the chariot's got stuck in the mud because of the water. Well, it hasn't started raining, but this seems to be very similar that this is him saying, A-hab, you get on your chariot and you ride back to your capital, get down before the rain starts. There's not a drop of water anyway. There's a little cloud out
Starting point is 00:14:41 there. It came to pass in the meanwhile that the heaven was black with clouds just like that. And Ahab rode and went to Jezreel, but verse 46, the hand of Jehovah was on Elijah and he goes on foot. Supposedly, this is about 20 miles. You've got to say Elijah knew how to travel. And who gets to Jezreel first? It is Elijah that makes it before Ahab does. Probably he got stuck in the mud there because of all the rain. So there is another way that it seems like that this story is saying Jehovah is more powerful. Elijah can go on foot faster than Ahab can make it. Cool chapter. I thought I knew about this chapter.
Starting point is 00:15:27 This is so great. We've got the prophets, but he's called, Elijah has called, he's doing this to help the heart of the Israelites as a whole. So there would have been probably a multitude of just your everyday Israelites around. That's who he's saying choose. How long call ye between two opinions?
Starting point is 00:15:46 How long are you going to limp between these? He's not trying to convert A-hab. A-hab is, he's gone in these priests, but he's saying there's some people and you keep going back and forth. A-hab's not going back and forth, but the people are. Truly, if it had been the other way around, which we know it never would have, but had Prophets of Baal, Ben Victoria's, they would have certainly taken Elijah's life. I was going to say, yeah, there's so much in 18. You could learn from Ahab, right? Art thou he that trouble with Israel? This idea that we love to blame other people. We look everywhere else. We blame the church. We blame our parents, we blame,
Starting point is 00:16:25 even the weather for my problems, except for myself. And then how long halt you between of two opinions? That could be the title of my autobiography. How long halt you between two opinions? Why are you going to put both feet in? I've heard you use the phrase Hank, don't confuse who are your friends and who are your enemies. There's a time when the Nephites think that King Noah is their friend and the Benedictine
Starting point is 00:16:48 is their enemy when it's exactly the opposite. Are Daohe that trouble with Israel? Well, actually, A-Havier, the one who's troubling Israel, Kingdom of Israel, maybe as well as House of Israel, right? Take responsibility for your own decisions. And then I noticed Camille, as you were talking about, they're calling upon this other God, and there's no answer.
Starting point is 00:17:10 There's nothing, there's crickets. says that too is like one 19 or something. It reminds me of the hymn, where can I turn for peace? Isn't it? Where can I turn for peace? Where is my solace? When other sources cease to make me whole? That there was no voice. I call, I ask, I beg. Start cutting themselves. And what is interesting is in chapter 19, Start cutting themselves. And what is interesting is in chapter 19, there are last chapter, there is a time that Elijah will experience where it seems like God is silent. The Lord sometimes answers us with silence. We need to be prepared for that as well. Yeah, Elijah has a moment of just take my life.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Sometimes you get the fire of the Lord immediately and then other times. What are you going to do when the fire doesn't come? Type of thing. Chapter 18 is very dramatic. It was dramatic for a people who really couldn't make up their minds, who really weren't ready to commit. They were ready to blame somebody else for when things went bad. Oh, then that must be that God. Oh, this works. So I'll give credit to this God. And the Lord is much more overt with them.
Starting point is 00:18:32 He wants to make sure you there is no question in there, relatively immature, unsophisticated faith to get them back on board. But he will bring Elijah to greater tests, not just tests, but ways that strengthen and make Elijah much more like the one he serves. He really is a type of Christ through much of this. You think about the Savior, Golgotha, on the cross, my God, my God, why has thou forsaken me? Definitely, the Savior knew about feeling alone. Elijah knows about feeling alone, and he will
Starting point is 00:19:19 see that again in chapter 19, but he knows the Father and he is not swayed at all. He remains steadfast and immovable and goes through with whatever the father asks of him. You see faith at every level in these chapters too, don't you? All right, to take us through 19. Okay, all right. Now, no, you think we just build up Jezebel and where is she? But first one, Ahab told Jezebel all that Elijah had done. Oh, would you love to be a fly on the wall to see Jezebel's reaction? How he had slain all the prophets with the sword. And Jezebel sent a
Starting point is 00:20:00 messenger into Elijah's saying, so let the gods do to me and more also, if I make not thy life as the life of one of them by tomorrow about this time. Like words. She threatened. And when he saw that, Elijah, he arose and went for his life. I mean, he doesn't stick around. I think you just say he is petrified of Jezebel. And I think as much as you've seen the people the day before,
Starting point is 00:20:32 perhaps say, oh yeah, Jehovah, he is God. Oh yeah, that's the one. I think Elijah knows they're fickle. They really still can start waffling again if something bad happens. And so he takes off and he goes down to bear shaiva, which is another hundred miles away. These distances that he is going remarkable. He's a traveler.
Starting point is 00:20:57 He went a day's journey into the wilderness from bear shaiva. And he came and sat down under a juniper tree, and there he has requested for himself that he might die. I think he's saying, I've done a good work. I think it's it. I can't handle it anymore. So he's so discouraged. I don't think he's seen the people really coming to the fore as he would hope.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And he said, it's enough now. Oh, Lord, Jehovah, take away my life. For I am not better than my fathers. It's a discouragement. And an angel touches him. He eats. You've been going, you've been traveling a lot. You've got to get strong again. And so he eats. And then a second time verse 7, he does it. And the angel awakens him. And verse 8, where does he go? All the way down to Mount Sinai. Remember, Horab is another word for Sinai, the mount of God. So he's gone. another word for cyanide, the mount of God. So he's gone. Remember that in Deuteronomy, we saw that the distance between cyanide and cadetche-barnea, which is not far from where bearchava is, was 11 days, but they took 38 years to travel it. Well, here he's just done it probably in about 11 days. And he's lodging there. And now it's the word of the Lord comes to him in verse nine.
Starting point is 00:22:28 What do we do is now here? You think of how many days? It's been pretty quiet. He just says, I've had it. I just don't think I can do anything more. I mean, do we have days? Do we have weeks? Do we have months like this?
Starting point is 00:22:43 And he said, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts, for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down by nollters and slain thy prophets with the sword. I even I alone am left and they seek my life to take it away. You say, it's not just Jezebel seeking his life. The people will get it to please Jezebel. You feel for this man, this wonderful man. And he said, go forth and stand upon the mount before the Lord. That's the Lord's answer.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Go there on Mount Sinai, just like Moses did. The Lord passed by and here we go. The Lord is gonna teach him something else. I taught the people up there at Mount Carmel with drama, with the fire coming down out of heaven. And licking up water, they sought. And nothing really changed. Visual display. The Lord is going to teach Elijah a more refined and perhaps more long living a testimony of witness that has more longevity than anything they saw on Mount Carmel. Remember, President Joseph Fielding Smith taught the Spirit of God speaking to the Spirit of Man has power to impart truth with greater effect and understanding,
Starting point is 00:24:06 then the truth can be imparted by personal contact, even with heavenly beings. Through the Holy Ghost, the truth is woven into the very fiber and sinews of the body, so that it cannot be forgotten. That's elder Joseph Filding Smith from the instructor, October 1935. But I believe you find it in the manual, Presidents of the Church for Joseph Filding Smith. It's in there. And that would be a great reference for this. Absolutely. Just keeping that in mind. Look at chapter 19, Absolutely. Just keeping that in mind, look at chapter 19. Verse 11, the Lord says,
Starting point is 00:24:47 Go forth and stand upon the mount before the Lord and behold the Lord pass by and a great and strong wind. Rent the mountains and break in pieces the rocks before the Lord. I think you can see the Canaanite saying, yep, there's Baal, Baal is here, but the Lord was not in the wind.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And after the wind and earthquake, can you see and not the earth, the soil, but the Lord was not in the earthquake? And after the earthquake, a fire, that lightning or fire coming from, but the Lord was not in the fire, but after the fire, a still small voice. And it was so when Elijah heard it that he wrapped his face in his mantle and went out
Starting point is 00:25:35 and stood in the entering of the cave. And their voice came to him saying, what do us now hear Elijah? Now it's coming through that still small voice that he's going to learn this. As he says for the third time, I have been very jealous for the Lord God of hosts because the children of the Lord have forsaken thy covenant and thrown down by alters
Starting point is 00:25:56 and slain the prophets. And I even I alone am laughed and they seek my life to take it away. But he will now teach him through this still small voice. I think there's a lot to unpackage and those few verses and the manner in which the Lord speaks with him and what Elijah does in covering himself in circling himself with this mantle. When I think of this mantle and we see in first Kings 1, 8 it's called Harry. It's like an animal skin. John the Baptist is kind of likened to him because of the camel hair that he wears. Whenever I see
Starting point is 00:26:34 this I think back to Adam and Eve in the garden and that they were given a covering of an animal skin by the Lord Jehovah. And the way this mantle, as it's called here, Elijah reverences it, and that we see it in the rest of this chapter. Again, I wonder if there isn't something in this as far as a token, as far as a symbol of the Lord's covering, like he gave to Adam and Eve, and like in a sense that we can receive today of the Lord's covering, like He gave to Adam and Eve, and like in a sense that we can receive today
Starting point is 00:27:09 when we make covenants with the Lord. You remember, Kefar in Hebrew means covering. I feel a reverence that he uses as he wraps his face in this mantle after hearing the still small voice that just pierces him, as Joseph Fielding Smith said, probably going right to his DNA, every fiber and tissue of his being. So it's in that context then that verse 15, the Lord says, now I want you to go to Damascus. That's 500 miles in the other direction. And anoint a king there, a king for Syria,
Starting point is 00:27:47 Haseyl, and Yehu, when you get down to Israel, he's going to be the king after Ahab, because Ahab's days are going to be numbered here. Yehu, the king over Israel, and all, by the way, I've got one to take your place. You're not leaving before there got one to take your place. You're not leaving before there is one to take your place and who does he choose to take his place? A man by the name of Alisha and anoint him to be a prophet in thy room in thy place.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Ah, if he goes right back up to Syria and then to Israel right there in the shadow I mean annoyance a king when a hab is still alive. I mean again. This is plain with Fuego, isn't it? I think one of the best things he tells him is verse 18 Yet I have left me 7,000 in Israel all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal and every mouth which hath not kissed him. There are 7,000 faithful worshippers of Jehovah who have kept the covenant. That's going to be the foundation for a ministry that Elijah and Elijah are going to serve together. We'll say goodbye to Elijah in chapter 2, I think it is, of second kings, and Elijah will serve alone. But for about seven years or so, it seems
Starting point is 00:29:12 like Elijah and Elijah are serving together. This is the way Elijah learns about it. Verse 19 of chapter 19, he departed Thence and found Elisha, son of Shafat, who was plowing with 12 yoke of oxen before him. He's out working in the field. The fact that he has 12 oxen might be an indicator that he's quite well to do. And he was with the 12 ox when Elijah passed by him and cast his mantle upon him. This is the very setting where we talk about, I mean, we feel it, that April conference of 2018 when President Nelson, that solemn assembly when he was sustained as the new prophet. And you could feel it. The mantle came upon him.
Starting point is 00:30:07 It is here. Elijah puts his mantle upon Elisha. And immediately Elisha left the oxen and ran after Elijah and said, let me say goodbye to my mother and father and I'll follow you. And so he goes back. He sacrifices a yoke of oxen as evidence. This is something very sacred. He knows that and then follows up and
Starting point is 00:30:34 goes after him. And this partnership is a dynamic duo. They are incredible. Elisha's name means incredible. Elisha's name means, my God is salvation. My God is my help. And so his name also makes a reference to that. That chapter two of Second Kings and we shouldn't go, but just to kind of tie it in. Second Kings chapter two is when Elijah now is taken up. The Lord does take him not with death, but he's translated and is mantel. That same mantle falls off and falls on to Elijah. And he becomes the capital P prophet among all these great people in the land of Israel. A. Haban Jezebel end up having a demise. I think chapter 21 of First Kings is not in the reading assignment, but if you want to get the real true heart and soul of Jezebel, you got to read chapter 21. Chapter 21 of First Kings, if you want to know Jezebel and why her name still today is
Starting point is 00:31:42 a synonym for evil incarnate. It came to pass after these things that Naboth, the Jesuerylite, had a vineyard, which was in Jesueryl hard by the palace of Ahab king of Samaria. So Naboth is probably of the tribe of Ephraim. His family has inherited this. It's been handed down all the way since Joshua led the children of Ephraim, his family has inherited this. It's been handed down all the way since Joshua led the children of Israel in here. It is his inheritance.
Starting point is 00:32:11 He cannot sell it. He will not sell it. Is sacred to his family. Ahab wants it and he goes, Oh, please give this to me. I will do greater things with it that you have and it's worth a lot of money and I'll give you a whole lot of money for it." And Nehboth said, no, I won't do it. I can't do it. Verse 3,
Starting point is 00:32:33 the Lord forbid it that I should give the inheritance of my father's unto thee. So Nehab goes home and he just mopes and sals and lays himself on his bed and turns away his face and won't eat anything. And it's just not fair. And Jezebel comes home and says, why is that I spiritual sad that thou eatest no bread? And he goes, because I speak to Naboth the Jezerealite. And he said, I ask you for his vineyard with money. And he said, no, he won't give it. Here's Jezebel. Verse 7, Does Thou now govern the kingdom of Israel? Arise and eat bread and let thine heart be merry. I'll give thee the vineyard of Neboth, Israel. I'll, you know, act like a king. I know how
Starting point is 00:33:18 to get you that. And how does she do it? She gets people to bear false witness against Naboth and charge him with blasphemy. And as a result, they put Naboth to death. And Jezebel comes back to Ahab and said, well, there you go. Naboth is dead. The vineyard is yours. And as a result of that Elijah comes down on them. Verse 19, Elijah says,
Starting point is 00:33:47 to Ahab, thus sayeth the Lord has thou killed and also taken position. And thou shalt speak unto him, Ahab, saying, thus sayeth the Lord in the place where dogs licked the blood of Naboth, shall dogs licked thy blood even thine. Spoiler alert, that is going to happen to Ahab. But I love this verse 23 and of Jezebel also spake the Lord saying, the dog Shelley Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel. How are the prophecies fulfilled? Just because you might not get this in your reading assignment. Check it out. Verse Kings 22, verse 34, is the battle that Ahab is involved in, and the king in verse 35 has been shot, and he stayed up in his chariot against the Syrians,
Starting point is 00:34:37 and died at even, and the blood ran out of the wound. And then verse 38, after they had come to kind of clean up the chariots, verse 38 says, and one washed the chariot in the pool of Samaria, and the dogs licked up his blood. And they washed his armor according to the word of the Lord, which he spake. Yeah, you don't get her demise until clare over in second Kings 9. She is feeling pretty sassy, it seems like about life always, because she seems invincible. But remember when Elijah was sent up to Israel
Starting point is 00:35:14 to anoint the next king, Yehu. Well, verse 30, Yehu comes after Elijah tells him, yep, Ahab is dead, you go take over. Yeh who comes into Jezreel and Jezebel heard of it. And she painted her face and tired her head, you know, teared it up and fixed up her hair, put on her makeup, looking just as gorgeous as she can. And she looks out at the window.
Starting point is 00:35:41 And Yeh who appeared at the gate and said, had Zimri peace, whose sleuth I master. Zimri was a former king in the northern kingdom and he was only king for one day. And so she's kind of like haunting him saying, oh, you think you're king. No, this is curtains for you. And then he lifts up his face to the window and asks to were three unix who were there. And he says, throw her down so they threw her down. And some of her blood was sprinkled on the wall and on the horses. And he, Yahoo, trod her underfoot. And when he was come in, he did eat and drink and said,
Starting point is 00:36:25 go see now that cursed woman and bury her for she is the King's daughter. And when they go out, all they find of her is her skull and the feet and the palms of her hand. My goodness. Nothing more to bury. So yeah, it's a mighty demise. I just have to add one more. And I know this is way beyond the chapters we were assigned, but you've just got to see when the Lord says,
Starting point is 00:36:50 A-hab did more evil than all those before. Guess what? A-hab and Jezebel have a daughter. And anyone who says women are innately more spiritual or just lovely and they don't do anything wrong, one, you've got Jezebel, but we have prime example number two. They have a daughter named Ephalia and they married her to whom to get more leverage and control and power and treaty alliance with the southern kingdom with Judah, they marry Ephalia to the son of the King
Starting point is 00:37:28 of Judah. And the time will come that her husband, Joram, becomes King of Judah and dies. And Ephalia will kill all of her sons and all of her grandsons. It's the only time you see a woman ruling on her own as queen over Judah. She has a demise like her grandmother, but Ethalia, Ethalia, the daughter of A. Haban Jezebel rules in the Southern Kingdom. Taints the Southern Kingdom with the worship of Baal
Starting point is 00:38:04 and Ashura and N knot and yam and mott as well. Bad seed this family. John, you'll have to help me here. Jisabel reminds me of amalakaya when she says, I'm going to kill him, right? Doesn't amalakaya say I'm going to drink the blood of my life. He's for to drink meronize blood. Yeah. And what does mormon say at that point? We shall see. Thus, while amalakaya had been obtaining power by fraud and deceit, Marlena, on the other hand, had been preparing the minds of the people to be faithful. He talks about how rash the promise was.
Starting point is 00:38:35 It's just Mormon being kind of, we shall see this. Oh, as an editor, he puts, he puts Amalakaya, Marlena, side by side as an editor, which is kind of fun to see. Oh, that's his fun. He knows what he's doing. Norman says, kind of like Jezebel, but behold, we shall see that his promise which he made was rash.
Starting point is 00:38:55 This was probably not a good promise to make, just like Jezebel. We've got to wind up with something a little more positive, don't we? Then the demise of Jezebel. And you had the widow of Zeraphath, right? Same city? Yeah, perfect. Well, the same area. Zeraphath is not Sidon, but it's close.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I mean, they're like eight miles away. We walked through the demise of Ahab and Jezebel. But let's come back here to First Kings 19 before we wrap up. I really like this story where this angel comes to Elijah when he is in a really bad spot. And he brings him just a little cake, a little bit to drink. And he says, the journey is too great for the. I just thought, man, I can, I could probably list a couple dozen angels that have come into my life just at the right time, brought me a little something.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Right? I remember when my dad passed away. There was a knock on the door and there's Alex Baugh, who just came over, gave me a hug, brought me a treat from Costco. He said, I was just on my way home. He is not on his way home unless he's going south of BYU to get to Lyndon. That was a moment. The journey is too great for the, and Alex Ball was an angel. I could list how many others that have been angels in my life to hard journey.
Starting point is 00:40:15 We can take that role. There's lots of different definitions of angels, I think, and one of the statements of President Spencer W. Kimball that I think about so often is God does notice us and he watches over us but is usually through another person that he meets our needs. And that goes back to Elijah. It's not in an earthquake. It's not in thunder. It's not enlightening. How does God meet our needs? Another person shows up like an Alex Boll. Like you, and a sister showed me her phone every morning, a reminder came up that said, who needs me today? And it didn't say does anyone need me? It just said who?
Starting point is 00:40:53 And then she would try to act on that each day and kind of be an angel that way. Well, I am just struck by two. Just it seems like the Lord's awareness and reminder that he is aware, that the journey is sometimes too great for us. He stretches us. We see miracles and his grace makes us equal to what is needed, but there are sometimes added pouring out of love and grace and mercy upon us that remind us that he is so aware and he recognizes our hurt and our discouragement. I think it's in those times when it is more quiet and we just
Starting point is 00:41:34 feel like, is he there? Sometimes it's these little gentle feelings of his awareness that helped me come through. And I think of the challenges that Elijah went through. His life was being sought everywhere it seemed like. And he is racing hundreds of miles on foot to do God's bidding. And it makes me think of our leaders today. I think my prayers for And it makes me think of our leaders today. I think my prayers for President Nelson and those who work closely with him, the quorum of 12 and first presidency have increased in sincerity more than ever as I just see the the mantle that they carry. I was really touched as I read Elder Holland's talk from last conference. There was a part of it that I didn't remember when he gave it. I printed it out to read often enough. This is just April 2022. General
Starting point is 00:42:34 conference, Elder Holland said, the leaders of this church are giving their lives to seeking the Lord's guidance and the resolution of these challenges. As he talked about the hard things that we are suffering today, and I think I don't have a clue just how much they give of themselves, their lives. And then he said, if some of the challenges are not resolved to the satisfaction of everyone, perhaps they constitute part of the cross Jesus said we would have to take up in order to follow him. People like our apostles today and Elijah of old remind me that fallen earth is fraught with
Starting point is 00:43:20 challenges with with trials with stumbling with hurt and pain and fears. That is where we discover that still small voice very often that brings us back. Just discover that there are blessings that come on top of Mount Sinai when I have been fed by the angel of the Lord. October 2018, General Conference, Elder Detod Christopherson, told the story of Elijah and Ahab. He went through the story, especially he focuses in on what happens on Carmel. He talks about this, if God is God, then serve him. And he said, today, Elijah might say, either God or Heavenly Father exists, or he does
Starting point is 00:44:06 not. If he exists, worship him. Either Jesus Christ is the Son of God, the resurrected or demur of mankind, or he is not. But if he is, follow him. Either the Book of Mormon is the Word of God, or it is not. But if it is, then get nearer to God by studying and abiding by its precepts. Either Joseph Smith saw and conversed with the Father and the Son that spring day of 1820 or he did not, but if he did, then follow the prophetic mantle, including the keys of sealing, that I, Elijah, bestowed upon him. He goes on to give several examples of people who kind of what you might say, pick a side. They choose what side they're on.
Starting point is 00:44:44 I wanted to share one of the three, and I hope everyone will go find this talk. It's called firm and steadfast in the faith of Christ. He ties it back to the still small voice. He says, this is back to the talk. A man who grew up in the church served as a full-time missionary and married a lovely woman was surprised when some of his siblings began speaking critically
Starting point is 00:45:03 of the church and the prophet Joseph Smith. After a time, they left the Church and tried to persuade him to follow. As often happens in such cases, they bombarded him, with essays, podcasts, and videos, produced by critics, most of whom were themselves disaffected former members of the Church. His siblings mocked his faith, telling him he was gullible and misled. He didn't have answers for all their assertions, and his faith began to waver under the relentless opposition. He wondered if he should stop attending church. He talked with his wife, he talked with people he trusted, he prayed, and as he meditated in this troubled state of mind, he recalled occasions when he had felt the Holy Spirit and had received a witness of truth by the Spirit. He concluded, I love what he says,
Starting point is 00:45:49 If I'm honest with myself, I must admit that the Spirit has touched me more than once and the testimony of the Spirit is real. He now has a renewed sense of happiness and peace that is shared by his wife and children. Just kind of a modern day Elijah's story. I am so glad you shared that. I think that is so timely. The one I keep hearing today is, yeah, I'm a member of the church, yeah, I just don't agree with President Nelson or whatever. You know, the idea that we can pick and choose. Elijah and the widow of Zera Fath remind me that even without having all the answers, we can know because of what he has done
Starting point is 00:46:34 for us in the past, he will continue to help us in the future. Have that rock solid commitment to follow him. That sounds like the name of a podcast. Yes, even through a obadiah in their Camille, you want me to what? Just one of the things that just loved about this year studying the Old Testament was the realization that especially with Moses, when he felt so inadequate and I can't do it, they won't believe me and the Lord never said, I'm going to solve all your problems. He just said, I will be with you. And then we look at the way they set up the tabernacle with all the tents around and everything and it was this symbol that I'm
Starting point is 00:47:16 with you. All of these problems are still happening to these people, but there's this assurance, I'm with you. So it's not, why doesn't God just solve all of our problems and take them all away? Well, he doesn't, but he'll be with us in the midst of our problems. And that's what I keep seeing over and over again in these stories. So yeah, you've got a long journey,
Starting point is 00:47:36 but I'm gonna come and I'll actually cook some food for you on this little fire, but just so that you will know, you're not alone in this, I'm going to be with you. And we will have discouraging times. And we will have times that we say, oh, I failed at once. Can you sing the song of redeeming love now? I love scripture for what it teaches me from these individuals who carried on even when they couldn't see the next step ahead of them. And that is the widow of Zarafath and Obadaya and Elijah. Camille, I like what we've done today.
Starting point is 00:48:11 We've had a dynamic story with powerful characters. On one side, we've had Elijah, Obadaya, and that amazing widow of Zarafath saying, here's what to do. On the other side, we have Aab and Jezebel saying, here's what not to do. As we come away from these chapters, then, what are you hoping our listeners walk away? Knowing, changing, feeling? I just think one of the most powerful messages that comes through here is Jehovah's Awareness of all of his children, whether they be of the House of Israel or outside the house of Israel. There is good that comes from the widow of Zeraphath that will inspire a prophet,
Starting point is 00:48:51 and there is good that comes from servants of a wicked king that inspire that same prophet. I sense in so many ways, God is no respecter of persons through this, but also how easy it is to have more power and fame and authority and have it corrupt you as we see in Jezebel and Ahab. Somehow through it all, Elijah remains humble, so humble, and so willing to continue to serve. Whatever station we are in, whatever our circumstances, that when we have an opportunity to help, when someone asks for help that we would be willing to step forward, whether it is feeding 100 prophets in caves or giving the very last out of our cupboard. It's in those extremities that we discover him and that we not be afraid of what he
Starting point is 00:49:56 he desires to show us. With a still small voice, I think that's a compliment when we can hear and understand a still small voice versus having lightning coming out of heaven. That is promising. But not to get discouraged. If there are times of quietness when it seems like what is happening, I guess my mission is over. I guess I should die. There's nothing left.
Starting point is 00:50:23 It's sometimes in those quiet times that we learn things that we could never know if we were feeling a more intense relationship with the Lord. Again, it was after that that Elijah discovered the still small voice that before he might not have felt. What a fantastic day. Camille, we love having you on follow him. I love being here. You're quite fun to hang out with. Yeah. What a fun conversation we had today. We just like everybody listening. We hope this isn't the last time we have you. We want to thank Dr. Camille Frank Olson for being with us today. We want to thank all
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