Follow Him: A Come, Follow Me Podcast - Bring a Solution • followHIM Favorites • November 11-17 • Come Follow Me

Episode Date: November 7, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, welcome to Follow Him Favorites. This is where John and I share a single story to go with each week's Come Follow Me lesson. John, we're in Ether 1 through 5. You've told me you have a story that fits with this lesson. It's such a fun story. It's so interesting. The way the Lord talks to the brother Jared, he says, I've heard you say it this way. We can't see, we can't breathe, we can't steer. Those aren't the best boats. Yeah, this design isn't working for us. We have these needs like, you know, oxygen. When
Starting point is 00:00:35 the Lord asks them what to do for air, Lord tells them exactly. When the brother of Jared says what I would do for light, the Lord says, what do you recommend? What I should do that you may have light in your vessels, Ether 223. Well, this reminds me of a story when I was a missionary in the Philippines, I was with Elder Phil Broderick from Oram, Utah. Great guy. I at that time was in a mission office and I went in to tell my beloved mission president, President Menlo Smith, hey, something just happened here, he just said, elder, by the way, never come to your boss with a problem. Always come with a recommendation.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And then he said, go get elder Brodericks. So it got elder Broderick. He sat us down and he said, I want to teach you something. President Smith was all about a real leader trains leaders. When he leads, he would say, he said, I want to show you something. I call it the five levels of delegation. Level one, seek problems, solve it, keep it to yourself.
Starting point is 00:01:30 He said, you're not there yet. Level two, seek problems, solve them, report back. You're not there yet. I don't want you to do that. He said, I want you at level three, seek problems, study it out in your mind. Recommend a solution. What you just did was level four. Come and tell me about the problem and say, what do we do?
Starting point is 00:01:51 And he said, well, maybe there's a fifth level where I find out about the problem and come to you. I want you never to come in here with a problem, always to come with a recommendation, and that was life changing for me. I used that when I was a bishop at the ward council. Don't dump the problem on the bishop. Dump the recommendation on the bishop. Tell me what you've thought about
Starting point is 00:02:10 and wrestled with and everything else. I used that when I was in continuing education at BYU. The thing that was amazing about that, Hank, is something happened after President Smith went to Singapore. You go way back in your mind, Hank, before cell phones. Can you do that for me? The phone was attached to the house. I remember.
Starting point is 00:02:29 We didn't have a way to get in touch with President Smith and something came up in the mission. My memory was it was the Manila MTC wanted to change the date they were sending up missionaries. The way communication was there, we communicated with, it was almost like telegraph. They called it RCPI, radio communication of the Philippine islands. It was these little guys on scooters who would bring around little notes. Really? Okay. Yeah. It would have been terrible. We couldn't change the date. I remember sitting at my desk like this, Hank, going, what would president do? What would president do? What would president do? What would president do? What would president do? He had
Starting point is 00:03:06 trained us to think what would president do. I came up with something. I called the Manila MTC, convinced the mission president there. And I was so grateful for that experience. Now, the best part of the story, Hank, is one night President Smith was telling us that he was not a member, he married a less active member, she had a Book of Mormon, he read the Book of Mormon, and the story that touched him was the way that God dealt with the brother of Jared. Because it matched the way he worked with people. And ten years later, he was my mission president.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I think this really stood out to him What we that I should do that you have light in your vessels because that was one of his levels of delegation I've used it ever since Wow, that's awesome. This was a while ago. This is the 80s Yeah This is the 80s and you still remember in that kind of detail because I used it as a bishop all the time because if everybody, instead of just handing problems to someone, how does the Lord do it? And how does section nine tell us?
Starting point is 00:04:12 You go study it out in your mind and you wrestle with it because that's how you'll grow. That's fantastic. Fantastic, John. We hope you'll join us on our full podcast. It's called Follow Him. You can get it wherever you get your podcasts. We're with a couple of doctors this week. We're with Dr. Crystal Pierce and Dr. George Pierce.
Starting point is 00:04:32 We have a really fun time in these chapters, so we hope you'll join us there. Then come back next week, we'll do another Follow Him favorite.

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