Follow Him: A Come, Follow Me Podcast - Doctrine & Covenants Section 1 Part 1 • Dr. J.B. Haws • January 6 - January 12 • Come Follow Me
Episode Date: January 1, 2025What can you learn from the preface of a book of scripture? Dr. JB Haws explores the background to Doctrine and Covenants 1, including resources to help aid study in 2025.SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTSEnglish...: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC202ENFrench: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC202FRGerman: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC202DEPortuguese: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC202PTSpanish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC202ESYOUTUBEhttps://youtu.be/NIUXQP_LC3sALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTESfollowHIM website: https://www.followHIMpodcast.comFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookWEEKLY NEWSLETTERhttps://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletterSOCIAL MEDIAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastTIMECODE00:00 Part I - Dr. JB Haws00:34 Intro01:06 Hopes for 202502:39 Come, Follow Me Manual04:17 D&C 1 - Preface 07:00 Background to Section 110:07 William McLellin’s account 13:16 Matt 14 parallels15:47 Young members and 10,000 copies18:28 Book of Commandments background25:22 Order of the sections27:36 Joseph Smith Papers website32:36 Resources for 202537:25 Order of sections38:38 “Typology of opposites”40:21 D&C 1:1 - Audience42:45 D&C 1:2-3 - Attention and typology of opposites46:39 D&C 1:16 - Idolatry and Scripture Citation Index50:35 D&C 1:14-17 - Relationships and calamities55:41 D&C 1:19-28 - Weak things of the world58:45 God proves He wrote the section01:02:05 End of Part 1 - Dr. JB HawsThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: ProducerKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesJamie Neilson: Social Media, Graphic DesignWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika : Portuguese Transcripts"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com
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Coming up in this episode on Follow Him.
A C.S. Lewis quote that just as rings true to me is,
we might think that the Lord wanted obedience to a set of rules,
whereas He really wants people of a particular sort.
That's what I think Doctrine and Covenants 1 is calling us to.
Are we becoming people of a particular sort?
Is this who we are? Is this who we want to be?
Hello, my friends. Welcome to another episode of Follow Him. we are, is this who we want to be?
Hello my friends, welcome to another episode of Follow Him.
My name's Hank Smith and I am your host and I'm here with my co-host, John by the way,
the only true and living co-host upon the face of the whole earth, which with I, Hank
Smith, am well pleased.
Yes, I am living.
I can verify. Yep, I am living.
I can verify.
Yep, I'm still alive.
He's still hanging on, folks.
John, we are also very blessed
to have Dr. JB Hawes with us.
He's been with us before, and he is a good friend
and an amazing teacher.
Welcome, JB.
Thank you, thank you.
So glad to be here with both of you.
This is great. We are gonna have a lot of fun.
Let me ask both of you,
as we are beginning this year's study
of the Doctrine and Covenants and church history,
as you look down the road and for our listeners,
what are you hoping happens?
John, let's start with you.
Looking at these revelations
and hearing the voice of the Lord,
who was it, Hank, that talked about
the red letter edition
of the Bible and how if you had a red ink edition
of the Doctrine and Covenants, the whole thing would be red,
almost the whole thing.
Yeah.
JB, what are you thinking?
My mind went almost to the same place as John's.
I love that sense of, like Elder Maxwell said,
the thundering directness of Sinai,
that we're hearing the voice of the Lord
all throughout these sections.
I also love this line from the introduction
of the Doctrine and Covenants, that these are real people
in real situations getting real answers to prayers.
That kind of concrete process of watching Revelation happen
is all throughout the Doctrine and Covenants.
And that means something for us,
trying to get Revelation in our lives.
Oh, beautiful. And speaking of Revelation, one thing I love is we have the doctrine covenants. And that means something for us trying to get revelation in our lives. Beautiful.
And speaking of revelation, one thing I love is
we have the benefit of living long after these revelations.
And you can see the Lord laying things out a little bit
at a time for the prophet and for the rest of the saints.
And we see it and we think, oh, I know what's coming.
He begins to even mention Zion.
Oh, the cause of Zion, the people of Zion.
And you and I are thinking,
oh, I know what that's gonna eventually turn into,
but it's fun to look at it and go,
wow, they didn't know.
As the Lord gives them a little piece at a time.
John and JB, our lesson today is entitled Harkin OV People.
And we'll just have one section of the Doctrine
and Covenants. Doctrine and Covenants, section one. I'm going to read from the Come Follow Me manual.
And then JB, let's hand the reins over to you. John and I are excited to see where we go.
Here's how it starts. November 1831. The restored Church of Jesus Christ was just a year and a half old.
Though growing, it was still a little-known group of believers living in relatively small
towns led by a prophet in his mid-twenties.
But God considered these believers to be His servants and His messengers, and He wanted
the revelations He had given them to be published to the whole world.
Doctrine and Covenant section 1 is the Lord's preface or introduction to these revelations.
It clearly shows that even though the membership of the Church was small, there was nothing
small about the message God wanted His saints to share.
It is a voice of warning for all the inhabitants of the earth, teaching them to repent and
establish God's everlasting covenant.
The servants carrying this message
are the weak and the simple.
Sounds like the three of us today.
Yeah.
But humble servants are just what God calls for,
then and now, to bring His church out of obscurity
and out of darkness.
What an opener.
So JB, with that, how do you want to take on Doctrine and
Covenants 1? How do you want to introduce the Doctrine and Covenants to us? Because this is
our very first lesson in the text. Oh, fantastic. I love that opener for the Come Follow Me manual.
What a well written and well framed and I think exciting, drawing us in, hooking us in.
Doctrine and Covenants One is such a great place to start,
not only because it is the preface,
but because I think it does some things
for the whole Doctrine and Covenants.
It's a place where historical context
really makes this section come alive.
So I think it's worth talking about what's happening
and what's the historical story behind this section. The other thing I love about Doctrine
and Covenants 1 that I think will be great to talk about is how does it set up, how does
it frame the rest of the book, the themes that will help us think about the Doctrine
and Covenants throughout our study of it. Doctrine and Covenants 1 reminds us over and
over again how fortunate we are to have prophets, that this is the Lord's pattern that the Lord
works through servants and what a miracle it is to have those.
Those are a couple of things that I see in Dr.
Cummings 1.
Yeah.
The restoration bursts onto the scene in this section, right,
JB?
It is not a, Hey, let's fade this in.
It's big.
Yeah.
Well said.
Do you know what I love about that intro you read?
It's, that's so good.
This is a handful of people in a handful of towns
with a 20 year old profit, but you read this section
and it's like, it's big enough for today for 17 million.
You read it and you think, wow, it worked for them.
It works for us now.
Yeah.
John, JB, almost like a patriarchal blessing
where you're going, I'm a very small person.
I'm usually pretty young.
Someone gets a patriarchal blessing
and here are these great big prophecies,
these great big promises.
You're almost thinking there's something bigger in mind here
than just this small little group.
So yeah, JB, let's do a little historical context.
Well, I think the first thing we notice when we come to Doctrine and Covenants section
one, we're looking at the section heading, is we notice the date.
This section is out of order chronologically.
So comes November 1831 and it's Hanks, that great intro that you read.
The church is in existence organized
a year and a half earlier. And so we asked the question, maybe first off, why is this
section out of order chronologically when so many of the other sections are going to
follow pretty much a chronological sequence? I think that is the story. This section was
given as a revelation to be a preface and And the Lord calls it my preface to this Book of Commandments.
That's what makes this section, I think, special
and stand out is that it's place of honor
as a revealed preface.
The Lord wanted us to encounter this
before we study the Doctrine and Covenants.
How's this coming about?
What's the setting that brings this together?
Joseph Smith has been putting revelations to paper for a couple of years now, starting probably with
what we have as Doctrine and Covenants 3 seems to be the first one that he dictated or wrote down
or committed to paper. And so we've had now a collection of 60-ish revelations that have
been written down. A conference that happens in Hiram, Ohio on November 1st and 2nd, 1831.
So Joseph and Emma have been living for a couple of months with John and Elsa Johnson
in Hiram, Ohio.
And we just have to say, everyone should put on their list to visit the Johnson Farm in
Hiram, Ohio if you got a church history trip.
That is one of the all-time great church history sites.
That home is just remarkable.
The conference meets there, 10 elders are coming together and the high on their agenda, prime on their agenda is should the revelations be printed?
You can think about why that question is probably roiling around in their minds.
These revelations are meant for the world.
The message is so powerful.
But they only have handwritten copies. And maybe you can get a copy if you pass by someone who has a copy or if you're in around Joseph Smith and you handwrite something. But the question is,
how do we get these more accessible? Well, that also raises some questions in other people's minds,
should they be printed? Are these the kind of things that we want the world to have? Does this put us in a precarious spot with some of the
bold claims in the Restoration? Are the revelations ready to be printed? Are they in the kind
of format that we're going to be happy to show to the world? So all these questions
are all about in the minds. One thing I think also too was that there were some enemies
of the church who were making some claims about the revelations,
what was in them, and especially the kind of claims against Joseph Smith's character
and the things that the revelations were instructing people to do that simply weren't true or don't show up in the revelations.
So perhaps publishing could exonerate the prophet and show that the rumors were false.
So all of these things are in the mix.
In the conference, they vote to print
10,000 copies of the revelations. That goes so well with what I think John said about
this being big enough for the world. I mean, this is double the print run of the Book of
Mormon, the initial print run of the Book of Mormon. And then you just think about what
this says with the membership of the church at the time, how small they are, but what
they're thinking about looking forward, we're going gonna print 10,000 copies of these revelations.
They have a big vision.
There we go, yeah.
They really sense that this is meant for the world.
And so in this conference,
and maybe this is also helpful to think about,
Doctrine and Covenants 1,
is it situates itself chronologically
with a couple of other revelations of Doctrine and Covenants.
So Doctrine and Covenants. So Doctrine and Covenants 67, the
conversation about when the elders are worrying and maybe having some concerns about the language and are the revelations polished enough.
Doctrine and Covenants 68, great instruction about
whatsoever you speak by the power of the Spirit is the mind of the Lord the will the Lord and his scripture that comes out from
the same conference
then a testimony that the elders sign
affirming sort of like the testimony the of the three witnesses and the eight witnesses that affirming putting their testimony to paper that they sign
the divinity of these revelations either at this conference or the day after what we now know as Doctrine and Comments 133, which was intended as an appendix to the revelations.
So we have this flurry of revelations at this conference and the decision to print 10,000
copies.
And so the question comes up, and this seems to be the account we have that I think gives
the best account is a William McClellan account.
He's remembering this several decades later, but
it seems to fit all of the circumstantial evidence that we have, was that some of the
elders were writing a preface. They wanted to introduce this book. Then William McClellan
says the others picked it to pieces and asked Joseph Smith if he could seek the Lord's revelation
for a preface. Then William McClellan gives this
great description that Joseph stands by the window and slowly dictates sentence by sentence
as Sidney Rigner writes this down.
That's the account of where the preface comes from.
And who is William McClellan, JB, for those of us who are pretty new?
This is great too, because William McClellan is new on the scene and you can feel
his enthusiasm. He is a new convert, a school teacher who encounters missionaries, is so thrilled,
comes to Hiram, Ohio to meet Joseph Smith and also in the same time frame he's just had a revelation
dictated for him. What we now have is darkening coming at 66. He's in the mix part of this
conference, a new convert and going to become one of the original 12 apostles, but feeling the thrill of this.
And he plays a role in this because he also by the accounts was the one who made the attempts
to duplicate a revelation or write a revelation when others were criticizing it. What we have
in Doctrine and Covenants 67,
is part of that experiment and lends his voice of testimony to the revelations and the divinity
of those.
Do you think, JB, that the Lord said, yeah, go ahead, give it a try, write the preface,
and that'll help you appreciate what you're going to get. Yeah, I like
that reading. I think sometimes we think of this as a mark of rebelliousness or
maybe even a mark of cynicism, but I think one way to read it is William
McClellan feeling obedient to this instruction and feeling that maybe this
is part of the way of affirming the testimony for everyone else involved. I
like that reading of saying,
as you go through this process and realize
how futile that effort is or how difficult it is,
that it proved to be an important mark of testimony
or confirmation may be a way of saying it.
Another piece of evidence for those who participated
and bolstered their willingness to affirm
these revelations are
special. There's something different about them. I wonder if that's Nephi too. We went in, tried
to get the plates our way and the Lord said, all right, let's try my way. Let's see what happens.
I love that backstory in section 67. If I can jump over to New Testament for a minute. You guys all know the story of Matthew 14 of Jesus walking on the water and them seeing
him and Peter saying, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
And he does it.
And then when he saw the wind boisterous, he began to sink.
And I love the Elder Holland comment about, while his eyes were on Jesus, the wind could toss his hair, the spray could drench his
robes, but all was well, he was coming to Christ.
It was only when he took his eyes off the Savior, and you go to section 67, and I love
this, okay, your eyes have been upon Joseph.
And his language you have known, and his imperfections you have known, this also you have known,
but look at the revelations.
There is no imperfection in them.
And then it's this, let me write the preface, and it's, whoa, that message of your eyes
are in the wrong place.
What are you looking at?
Who in the world could have written this?
You read section one and you just think, who could speak in the name of God that way? Because that's not
anybody's voice but the Lord's. To read it like you said, JB,
well I'll give it a try and I'll give it a try and then you read
Joseph stands by the window as William McClellan said
and gets this and it's like wow. Listen to the authority that's talking here
in section one.
And to me, that's a really cool message of your eyes have been in the wrong place.
Now look to me and here we go.
I love that Matthew 14 connection, John.
That's really powerful.
I think this is something that we see again and again, and maybe that we all have to
confront as we think about looking forward to the doctrine and covenants.
This is in a lot of ways is the Hiram Page moment, the Oliver Cowdery moment, when doctrine
and covenants 28, we have these situations where there are other claimants for revelation
or people who are claiming that they've received the revelations as they learn outside their
stewardship.
And the thing that I love is again and again, the answer that comes back is there's something different
about the revelations that are coming through
the Prophet Joseph Smith, and they sense it.
So that Hiram Page renounces the seer stone,
Oliver Cowdery agrees to talk to Hiram Page
and to work this out and to disavow those revelations.
There was just something different they could tell.
I love those repeated moments that we're gonna see
in the Doctrine and Covenants story.
John, I'm sure this is something we're gonna bring up
over and over, but Joseph Smith in November of 31 is 25.
In our world, he's a kid.
I have students at BYU who are 25.
JB, what's Joseph Smith like at 25? I mean, he's been tutored for quite a while,
but when I have read about him, he is not the Joseph Smith of 1843, 1844, you know, those
couple of years before he dies. He is still learning here.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. That kind of perspective is always helpful when we think about the Joseph Smith and
not just Joseph Smith, but all of his associates.
I mean, we are talking about a group of young people who are leading this work
and are engaged in this.
I think it's also worth saying he's already faced some pretty difficult things.
He's already faced some family tragedies, the loss of children.
He's already had a lot of displacement in his life, moving around a lot. He's also already
started to engage in some very big projects like the building of Zion in Missouri. And
so we have sort of two church centers now. He's living in Ohio, but through him, the
Lord has called individuals to be building up Zion in the Jackson County, Missouri area.
So he's now managing two church centers.
He's on the cusp of some pretty difficult persecution that's going to be happening in Hiram, Ohio.
Four months after Doctrine and Covenants 1 comes the March 1832 tarrying and feathering.
He's translating the Bible. That's one of these big projects at the
Johnson farm. And so that he's in the middle of that. That's another thing that can help us think
about what he's thinking about all of this time, sending out missionaries and saying, we're writing
this gospel to the world. It's big. He's 25 and he is, the work has just really ballooned.
He's 25 and he is, the work has just really ballooned.
To me remembering that makes it come to life in a way where you think, how is this possible?
I look back on my twenties and think,
I had no idea what I was doing.
And yet here he is being used as this instrument.
Yeah, sitting there and going,
let's do, let's say 10,000 copies. Wait, wait, wait, what?
Who do we think we are? Who does God know we are? Who does Joseph know we are and what's coming to
print 10,000 copies? Few people in a few towns with a 20-something year old prophet. Well,
let's make 10,000 copies. That's right. JB, do they call it the Doctrine and Covenants?
Good question.
No, the first edition of this book
is going to be called the Book of Commandments.
Here is kind of a replica.
So small pocket size, the idea was
that we could be more transportable,
easily carried by elders as they're traveling.
Now, JB, you are either Andre the Giant or that is a
very small book. Will you hold that up again? Is that smaller than your phone? Definitely smaller
than my phone, yes. So pocket sized. I'm so glad you brought this up Hank because I think we
shouldn't move too quickly past this title. This is the idea that it's going to be called the Book of
Commandments. And we see that in section one, verse six, my preface under the Book of my commandments.
And I think it's worth pausing on this because this word gives us a window into the way early
saints thought about these revelations. To me, one of the great stories that brings this to clarity is something that Joseph Knight
remembered about an interaction he had with Martin Harris.
So as Joseph Knight's remembering this, it's March 1830, the Book of Mormon is hot off
the press.
Joseph Knight is watching Martin Harris having a conversation with Joseph Smith.
Martin Harris, Joseph Knight says, is carrying several copies of this newly printed Book of Mormon, and he's panicked.
He said, no one's going to buy them. There's an intentional boycott. People are just going to reject this. And Martin, of course, he has a big stake in this. His farm is on the line.
And he's panicked. And he says to Joseph Smith, no one's going to buy these books. we're in trouble. And then he says this great line, and I think in today's vernacular, we would say, I must have a revelation. I
must have some inspiration. But he says, I must have a commandment. I need a commandment.
And what he meant was, I need a revelation. Joseph Knight ties this to section 19. What
Joseph Smith said was pay heed to what you've already
have, the revelation you've already received, section 19. But I love that
Martin Harris in this moment of need, he says, I need a commandment, I must have a
commandment. That's his word for a revelation from the Lord. We see that all
over the early, Dr. Connison, the early Saints kind of language is that they
think of these as commandments. I like to ask myself that question, how would
I approach this book differently if I think in terms of commandments, these revelations
are commandments. The Lord wants us to do something. These are messages of action. I
love that title. I think it's worth us keeping the back of our mind that another equivalent
for the word revelation in these sections could be commandment. Almost to hear the Lord saying, I've got big things in mind. Follow me on this.
Yeah.
I love that insight, JB. It's not here's a book of some sound advice, take it or leave it.
This is a book of commandments. What's the first word, Hank? Harken. It's not just hear this,
hear it and obey it. Here it comes.
I also love that Martin Harris attitude. And I think, man, how could I have more of that?
I want a commandment. I must have a commandment. I want direction.
It's like, are you sure?
Yeah, that's right. That's right. Yeah.
You're going to get more than you bargained for.
I need to hear it. I need to have something to have faith in. Let me hold the paper.
In response to this conference and this decision to print 10,000 copies,
John Whitmer and Oliver Cowdery take the manuscript copies of the revelations that John Whitmer
mostly had been faithfully copying into a manuscript book and then they travel from Ohio to Missouri
where WW Phelps had been called to be the church's printer.
Where the press is.
That's exactly right.
Oh, okay.
That's sort of our last step of moving
from handwritten copies of the revelations
to printed copies is that they're gonna carry
the manuscript copies of the revelations
to Missouri for WW Phelps to print them. These 10,000 copies they decide to print need to be printed from
over a thousand miles away in Jackson County. Now, JB, this is a big question to ask, but if I'm
new to the church, new to church history, who is in Missouri? Why Missouri?
First Vision, New York, Emma Smith, Pennsylvania,
right on the border of New York.
I think in my mind as I'm reading,
oh, they go to Ohio, right there in this section heading,
I know they're in Ohio.
And then all of a sudden, J.B. Hawes brings up,
oh yeah, we need to print this all the way out in Missouri.
I know this is a lot to ask,
but what would you say is a brief background for someone who's kind of new to this?
Yeah, excellent question. That is one of the things that makes Doctrine and Covenants 1 both intriguing and interesting, but also that requires a little bit of digging into the history because it comes out of order.
So there's some of the story that we have to fill in. I think you mentioned it early, Hank, is these about Zion we're gonna see coming up in all of these early revelations as we come
to section 28 and then through the early 30s of the Doctrine and Covenants sections,
the Lord is calling a group of missionaries to travel from New York to
what we now know as is the state of Missouri on the edge of what was Indian territory in
1830s United States.
This group of missionaries led by Oliver Cowdery, I'm going to also include Parley P. Pratt,
Peter Whitmer Jr., Ziva Peterson, they are going to travel that really long distance
to the border of the Lamanites.
They stop in Kirtland, Ohio area. That's where
Parley P. Pratt had been living. He had some deep acquaintances there. They meet Sidney Rigdon and
Sidney Rigdon's followers. In the matter of a couple of weeks, several hundred people have
joined the church and are baptized. The missionaries that are headed to Missouri continue on. They end up in Independence, Jackson County, Missouri.
Sidney Rigdon, who had joined the church in Ohio,
goes and meets Joseph Smith, and then Joseph Smith receives a revelation for the New York Saints to gather in Ohio.
So that's why they moved to the Kirtland area.
Then in the summer of 1831, Joseph Smith makes a trip to Independence, Missouri, and
there are several others who are called to live there. Edward Partridge, W. W. Phelps
as the printer, and the revelation is that this is Zion, the spot of Zion. So this is
where we come in sections 57, 58, 59. There's the building up of Zion, Independence, Jackson County,
Missouri area. And then the church where Joseph Smith is living and headquartered in the Kirtland,
Ohio area. We have these two church centers going because of the projects and the revelation from
the Lord to have different people in different places. So those of you who are listening,
you feel pretty new to this. Don't be frustrated if you're a little confused. What JB just talked about, this will play out. In fact,
section one, if we actually put it in order, where would it be JB? Like between section 67,
67, 67 and 68 happened at the same conference. Yep, exactly right. So we have a lot to learn before we understand the story that you're telling us thoroughly.
Yeah. Okay, I think I can pause and say,
all right, I might not know all these places and people, but eventually I will as I keep studying.
Yeah, definitely. I think that's a very good way to say it is that there's something about
this section that the Lord wants us to see first, but we shouldn't be intimidated that we don't have the story yet because after
this section, most of the sections move in chronological order and as we work through
them we'll pick up that story and then when we get to 67, 68 we'll say, oh yeah.
Okay. I really like that. I don't like heading into things a little confused, but if I know,
hey, eventually you're going to get to know this.
Maybe this is a little odd to say, but it's almost like a movie that the opening scene is somewhere in the middle of the movie.
Does that make sense? And then you've got to go backwards and see the whole story up to that point.
So when you see that opening scene in a movie, you're thinking, who are these people? What's happening? I don't know anything about this. Oh, we're going to go back. And by the time we get back to that point, you'll know
everything. No, I think it's a good analogy. And I also think that helps not any of us to feel
intimidated that we're encountering this kind of midstream, mid-story. Yeah, it's kind of like,
if you write a book, Hank, or if you write a book, JB, you kind of know what's going to happen, but these are revelations that
are ongoing. I can see how the Lord could write a preface and say, let me go back and tell you what
this all is, this book of commandments. I frequently tell my students when they write a paper,
don't write your opening two paragraphs until you've written the paper, because you just don't know
what you're going to tell me. So write it, then come back don't know what you're going to tell me,
so write it, then come back and tell me what you're going to tell me.
Jared Sussman That's a good way to look at the preface.
Let me tell you what I'm about to tell you, because it is so big and grand, this preface.
Pete Slauson Yeah.
John Ligato As we're thinking about the overall year of
studying the Doctrine and Covenants, I wanted to mention one resource that I think can be a great
study aid for the Doctrine and Covenants, and that's the Joseph Smith Papers website. And the Joseph Smith Papers website is
packed with information, but I think there is one section of that website that's especially helpful.
So this is josephsmithpapers.org. The subheading or the tab that I think can be most helpful for
the Doctrine Covenants is the Documents series.
What the Joseph Smith Papers editors have done with the Documents series is they've put in
chronological order all of the relevant Joseph Smith documents. That means all of the sections
of the Doctrine and Covenants, all of the revelations, show up in chronological order,
and they have these fantastic, brief, but really
thorough historical introductions for every section. Maybe the best way, the
easiest way to navigate is when you click on the Documents tab, it shows you
year by year. So you'll see 1829, 1830, 1831. You can look at the date in the
section heading of the Doctrine and Covenants, click on that year, find the
month, and then you can click on that section they have in the section heading of the Doctrine and Covenants, click on that year, find the month,
and then you can click on that section. They have in the date of the revelation, and then
they have in parentheses the section number and the Doctrine and Covenants. You can click
on that. So you can see the earliest transcript of the revelation, which is very cool to see.
But then you can click the historical introduction, and it gives beautiful background of what's
happening at that time. That might be a great way to get the story if you want to familiarize yourself, okay,
what's happening when this section is being revealed? That Doctrine and Covenants, the
document sections of the Joseph Smith Papers website is invaluable.
Yeah, and these are high resolution photos. I'm zooming in here going, you can go in pretty
far. You can look at the ink in the page.
There's another thing that brings the story to life.
You're seeing these handwritten revelations being put to paper.
The first times they were put in English, you are looking at it.
That's right.
Yeah.
And JB, I love your initials by the way.
JB, what did we hear in our Master's program over and over again?
Go to original sources, go to original sources. Now, what are we looking at? The source document.
Right on. They have source notes for every document, so it'll tell you, is this the original,
is this a copy of the original? In almost every case case that Joseph Smith paper letters have worked to find
the earliest known existing copy of these revelations, which is fantastic.
05.50 And I've noticed JB, maybe you already mentioned this, but I've got the original
document on this side and then on the right hand side, I actually get the words. So if I can't
quite read it. 06.00 Right.
06.00 Exactly. 06.00
Wow, this is fun. My wife does not allow me on the Joseph Smith papers website because I If I can't quite read it. It's a little easier. Right. Yep, exactly.
Wow, this is fun.
My wife does not allow me on the Joseph Smith Papers website because I get lost.
You disappear.
For hours.
I know.
Yeah.
It is so good.
The other thing, talking about not being able to read it, JB, will you hold up that Book
of Commandments again?
Did they not have eye problems back there? I see the church history
movies and they're singing out of hymn books that are that small. And I'm like, are eye problems
a 21st century thing? How did they read that stuff? Benjamin Franklin's bifocals, I guess.
All right, JB, that's a wonderful resource. I hope everyone will take advantage of the
Joseph Smith Papers website. And JB, this isn't a small project, the JSP.
Yeah, this I think will go down in history as one of the monumental projects that the
Church's history department has ever done and will ever do. And it's been two decades and more in the making.
One other tab we should mention is that they have a glossary of people and places.
You can just look up anyone involved in Joseph Smith's life, mention in the papers, mention
the Doctrine and Covenants, it's alphabetical.
And it becomes this really nice encyclopedic quick reference for identifying people and places. That's another
great tab on the Joseph Smith papers.
And there is a lot of them.
That's right.
This isn't a short list. This is wonderful. JB, John, there will be critics of the church
who say the church hides things. The Joseph Smith papers is as transparent as you can possibly be.
Here is every single document we have of Joseph Smith. High-resolution photos. Go
ahead and take a look for yourself. I love the phrase, you don't need to
protect the truth, it's like a lion, Just let it out of its cage. It will protect itself.
That's Joseph Smith. Be open and transparent. You will see who he really is.
Since we're talking about resources here, both of you, even on my Gospel Library app, I have the Book of Saints, which is, JB, maybe you can speak to that.
I have Revelations in Context. I have podcasts, Joseph Smith Papers podcast,
Saints podcast. I think I could spend every waking minute this year
studying these revelations and the history. And we hope everyone does.
I mean, that's-
Yeah.
Yeah.
JB, tell us about Saints.
Yeah, Saints is a can't miss.
A lot of listeners have probably encountered it.
It's a brand new four volume official history
of the church that is all of the things
that you would expect a history of the church to have all of the things that you would expect a history
of the church to have.
It partakes of those wonderful characteristics that you talked about the Joseph Smith papers,
Hank.
It's open, transparent, dealing with everything in the church's history, but in a way that
is so gripping, the narrative style.
It's written very much in story form, focusing on characters and important moments in church
history. It's a page turner.
The other great thing is they've got it in audiobook form so you can listen to it.
It's a great way to encounter the historical story behind the Doctrine and Covenants.
And Saints Volume 1 covers the years of Joseph Smith's ministry, essentially.
The volumes 2, 3, and 4 come all the way through the present.
The Saints footnotes take
you to so many places and so it's a great place to start and then whatever subject you wants to dig
into deeper, you can find it in the footnotes. The apparatus behind Saints is really, really
helpful, that kind of research apparatus. And I'll just say to all of our listeners,
this is a sacrifice. When we first started, John, come follow me.
I thought, okay, you know, I can dedicate some time to come follow me.
I can dedicate a couple of minutes every evening.
But if you really, really want to come through this year with something special at the end,
you do need to take some time to do this.
There's some things you might have to set aside.
You might have to set aside talk radio.
You might have to set aside a little bit of sports, not much, but a little bit of sports.
Whatever you might say, I'm going to make my car, my come follow me time.
I'm going to make my laundry room, some come follow me time, my walks, my running. I have a friend, Ry Eakins, who listened to our
podcast and other gospel oriented works, why he snowboards. We've got the tools here, but I hope
everyone listening will think, you know what, I'm going to dedicate some time to really understanding
the church and come to love, love these people.
And I think we could use the word invest sometime.
I like that, John.
And speaking of investment, John,
we actually haven't asked JB yet about his background.
You can get a full bio of JB on our website
or come to our Instagram, Facebook pages.
You can get those, but JB, just give us a brief background
on your investment into history.
I just can't ever go anywhere
without mentioning my hometown.
And so I was trying to think of a way to bring that in.
Hank, you just offered me that chance.
I grew up in Hooper, Utah.
Hooper, Utah.
Which is this beautiful beachfront community
on the shores of the great Salt Lake west of Ogden.
Hooper was originally called Muskrat Springs in pioneer times Utah.
So that's where I just think, you know, when you live in a place that you find out the
name of the town was Muskrat Springs, you think I want to know more about history.
That had to be where it started.
We'll have to say this. Those of you who are on YouTube, come onto YouTube if you're from Hooper and leave JB
a message.
We'll make sure he gets all of those.
I did a fireside out there once and I think every other person asked me if I knew JB Oz.
I did my PhD in American history at the University of Utah and great experience there, such great mentors and colleagues and fellow students.
I love history. I love the story of the church. I love the story of the church in its social and cultural contexts and how we see the ongoing restoration.
Beautiful. We should also mention that there is a wonderful woman listening. Her name is Laura.
Laura, we are grateful for you.
I don't think we'd have JB Oz if it weren't for Laura.
Amen to that.
Yeah, she's my wife.
My wife is an amazing person, incredible person.
JB, we've had you here for a little while.
I'm excited.
I have some background.
I now have some resources.
Should we jump into this section itself?
Oh, yes. One thing I think about when I think about these little like historical replicas.
So here's the Book of Commandments and then in 1835, the Doctrine and Covenants, so you
can see the size difference. So the first edition of the Doctrine and Covenants. One
thing that I think maybe will help us think about section one and its importance is that
the orders of the sections in various editions of
the Book of Commandments than the Doctrine and Covenants has changed a lot. Sometimes they group
them thematically. Now we've gone to mostly a chronological sequence, but there's been one
constant. Section 1 has always been first. I think we can see why as the Lord designates it as his
preface, but I think the responsiveness of the leaders
as they printed these editions, keeping that constantly first matters. It prompts in us
the question is, what is it that the Lord wants us to see before we encounter the revelations?
What is it that he wants us to understand about what we're going to read? So what are
the some of the themes that section one lays out that are going to
help guide us through the rest of the revelations? I think that's a really productive way to
come at section one and noticing some of those things.
A lens almost. Here's your lens. This is the way you're going to view this.
One of those is what Steve Harper, one of our great colleagues at BYU, called the typology of opposites.
I'll mention Steve Harper's book,
Making Sense of the Doctrine and Covenants,
which is a top-notch commentary,
takes section by section and provides great background
and some really great things to think about.
And in his reflections on section one,
Steve notes that section one sets out what he calls a typology
of opposites. And if you think about this section, we encounter things like Babylon and Zion.
We encounter things like the righteous and the rebellious. So it sets up this, what Steve calls
a type and an anti-type or these contrasts between entities, between people,
between mindsets.
That's going to play out through the Doctrine and Covenants is to think about choices, Zion
versus Babylon, righteousness versus rebelliousness.
That can serve a couple of purposes.
One of those is that I think it highlights that the Doctrine and Covenants is a book where agency plays a significant role and it wants to emphasize our agency, our role, our free will.
We have choices to make. These choices are really before us. This typology of opposites sets that out. The revelations are going to highlight the choices that are before us.
I have written in my notes here, I don't know who said it,
but section one, the Lord declares war on Satan.
Now you get to pick your side.
Wow. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's good.
Let's jump into the section.
Hank, do you want to read verse one?
Absolutely.
This is pretty cool.
Our first verse of the year.
Here we go. Yes. Harken, O ye people of my church, sayeth the voice of him who dwells on high,
and whose eyes are upon all men. Yea, verily I say, Harken ye people from afar, and ye that are upon
the islands of the sea listen together."
I think right from the get-go, if we think about a preface setting the thematic tone,
laying out framing what we're going to see, I think there couldn't be a better place to
start that these messages are universal.
We're hearing from the verse, the voice of the Lord, his message is for everyone.
He wants to reach the islands of the sea.
He wants to reach everyone.
His eyes are
upon all of us and I think that's reassuring, encouraging, fantastic. Yeah, it tells you what
he has in mind. This isn't just for 1,500 people in Ohio and Missouri. Yeah, definitely. Can you
imagine those who were trying to write their own preface, Harken, O ye people of my church, saith the voice of...
Who would dare say something like that?
And it lets you know, no, this was dictated from somewhere else.
This was not somebody coming up with something.
Yeah. To my church, and by the way, to the entire planet.
The Isles of the Sea listen together.
I remember President Eyring beginning a talk
by reading this verse once.
I was sitting in the Marriott Center.
I will never forget it.
Listen together.
It was a great moment.
So that's a great verse.
I'm thinking of something that Richard Bushman said,
see if I can paraphrase it,
that in his biography of Joseph Smith, Rustman said, see if I can paraphrase it, that
in his biography of Joseph Smith, Rough Stone Rolling, he was talking about section three, the first revelation that Joseph Smith put to paper, but he had such a great insight that the
voice in these revelations is independent of Joseph Smith, above and beyond Joseph Smith.
We just see that over and over again, that this is coming from outside of Joseph Smith. And so
sometimes in when the revelations rebu of Joseph Smith. And so sometimes in when
the revelations rebuke Joseph Smith, he includes it because he is just recording or dictating
or putting words to the inspiration that's coming from heaven and it's independent and
above him. Then we come to this verse two, a phrase this time around really hit me maybe
in a way that I hadn't quite noticed this before.
For verily the voice of the Lord is unto all men and there is none to escape and there is no eye
that shall not see neither ear that shall not hear and then here's the phrase that hit me this time
neither heart that shall not be penetrated." There was something intimate
about that last phrase, something that just caught me a little differently than eyes not
seeing, ears not hearing, but that every heart shall be penetrated. I think that's both a
realization of where things are going to end up. So this is certainly an apocalyptic revelation. It's a revelation
that's talking about end times, it's talking about wrapping up scenes, it's pointing us towards the
culmination of the Lord's work. But I love that idea that every heart will be penetrated. This is,
I think, leads us to those every knee will bow, every tongue will confess that Jesus is the Christ,
that hearts will be penetrated too, that there will be
a feeling that accompanies this, that every heart will be reached in some way.
That struck me as really powerful.
If anything else, this will get your attention.
Yeah.
I studied the call of Isaiah.
Let's go to the Old Testament for a second.
The call of Isaiah that is repeated in every one of the gospels and the book of Acts.
And what's the idea that,
Lest they see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their heart, and be
converted and be healed.
Eye, ear, heart, there, again.
In a positive way, understand and be healed.
The Lord's saying every heart is going to be penetrated.
That stands out.
Yeah, thank you, John.
And then maybe as we come to verse 3, this might be another place to settle back into what Steve Harper, we mentioned before, about the typology of office.
It starts with, and the rebellious shall be pierced with much sorrow.
This is hard. We feel the feelings of this.
Still thinking of this idea of hearts and feelings and pierced with sorrow and rebellious leads to
that. One thing that strikes me about this typology of opposites in the way that Dr.
Cunant sets this up is in some ways it doesn't feel totally applicable to real life situations.
It's hard to group people into one of two camps. It's hard to group people
into one of two camps. It's hard to group people into rebellious or disciples.
Individuals are a little more complex than that. If we're not in either or, if
people just aren't either or, and it's not easy to group, one question we might ask
ourselves is why does the Lord teach this way? Why bring up these typology of opposites?
Why talk in stark terms?
One possibility that I might propose is that it's not good for looking at others.
This is not prompting us that we should be judging others and putting people in these
categories.
But what it can do is it can ask us to think about our own hearts.
The typology of opposites has more of an
instructive value for us as individuals because we're not in a place, it's not our job to judge,
categorize others, but we can look at our own hearts and say, if I'm honest with myself,
I can confront that question. Am I in the rebellious camp or am I a disciple? Am I hearkening? Am I not? Am I headed towards Zion or am I not?
And maybe this opposite, the value is in having us do some introspection in ourselves and
say, where's my heart?
Not that I'm classifying others, but maybe I should classify my own thoughts, intents,
desires, my heart.
That's great.
I'm reminded of Matthew 26, 22, the Lord is at eye. Yeah. You read this and say,
does the shoe fit here?
Am I rebellious or are there certain things I'm rebellious about? Maybe little things. That's great.
If we're jumping ahead, John, what you're just saying, this verse 16, I think that there's a connection here.
I just really love this in terms of asking ourselves questions. One question we could ask,
what does obedience look like in Doctrine and Conducts 1? We're thinking about if it's a call
to action, if it's a call to do something, and if it's setting up these opposites gives us a choice. What does
obedience look like? Well here's verse 16. They seek not the Lord to establish
his righteousness but every man walketh in his own way and after the image of
his own God whose image is in the likeness of the world and whose substance
is that of an idol which waxeth old and shall perish in Babylon, even Babylon, the great,
which shall fall.
That prompts the same question that John, that you raised is in what ways am I
walking my own way?
Are there idols that are holding my attention?
Obedience looks like being able to reject that, to give up those idols, to
not seek after the image of the world.
That's a verse that really calls those questions to my mind.
You could reverse it. You could say, to be obedient is to seek the Lord, to establish
His righteousness, to not walk in your own way, but walk after God. Don't seek after the world
or idols and don't go after Babylon. Don't go after the world or idols. And don't go after Babylon.
Don't go after the world.
I think of our listeners who are thinking, how can I be happier?
How can I make my life better?
That's one way and we can all do it is say, in what ways am I, am I really seeking the
Lord?
Am I trying to establish His righteousness?
I think it was Brigham Young who asked another apostle, whose kingdom are you trying to build? The Lord's are your own. This is such a
powerful section for prompting those kinds of questions. I love how you sort
of reversed that Hank, to say what does obedience look like? It looks
like doing these things. I see a Lewis quote that just as rings true to me is,
we might think that the Lord wanted obedience
to a set of rules, whereas He really wants people
of a particular sort.
That's what I think Doctrine and Covenants want us calling us to.
Are we becoming people of a particular sort?
Is this who we are?
Is this who we want to be?
One other little tidbit that's kind of got my mind going
is there's a great website that
everyone should know about the scriptures.byu.edu it's called the
scripture citation index and I'm sure it's come up a lot on your show Stephen
Little and Richard Galbraith put this together you can see every time that a
verse has been cited in general conference you can go to doctrine
cabinets one and you can see how many times verses have been cited. Verse 16 is number two on the list of most cited verses from section one.
It's been cited 55 times. So I think there's something that our church leaders are coming
back to this verse again and again as one of the standout verses from section one is this idea of
walking in our own way, seeking after the Lord. There's something to be
thought of in that. Maybe if we back up a couple of verses, the other thing that I find really
interesting about Section 1 is, like so many of these kind of sections of prophetic warning,
I think the Lord is often more descriptive and predictive than he is prescriptive.
So in other words, he's saying,
these are the things that are just going to naturally happen.
If you choose this path, this is what is going to follow.
We read a verse like verse 13,
and the anger of the Lord is kindled.
I think that can sound maybe harsher
or maybe give us the wrong impression of the nature of God.
Whereas I think what this might be saying is this might actually just be a
description of the consequences that happen when we make choices. So in other
words, verse 14, the arm of the Lord shall be revealed in the day cometh that
they who will not hear the word of the Lord, neither the voice of his servants,
neither forgive heed to the words of the prophets and apostles, shall be cut off from among the people."
That's just the natural consequences of the choices that we're making.
For they have strayed from my ordinances and have broken my everlasting covenant.
One thing that I've loved about President Nelson is this reminder helping us to see that covenants
are all about relationship. What these verses in section one are saying is, if you choose not to be in a relationship with me, then
this is what's going to happen. I'm not going to force you. I'm not a god of
compulsion. I won't force you into relationship. And if you choose not to be
in relationship, then I'll allow that choice, but you'll be cut off. Here are
the consequences. And I'm predicting rather than prescribing or cursing
because this is just naturally what's going to happen if you choose not to be in relationship
Two things there I
Whenever I see will not in the scriptures. I like to ask what's the difference between will not and cannot?
It's not those who can't hear the voice of the Lord's those who refuse
It's not those who can't hear the voice of the Lord, it's those who refuse to hear. I am choosing not to hear that.
Like you said, here's the natural consequence.
That idea of don't think of a covenant like a contract, you do this, I do this, we sign,
we stick it on the shelf.
A covenant is an ongoing relationship.
Where I am weak and the Savior is strong, I benefit because of
that relationship. I have access to His strength when I am weak and I love that
idea of a relationship because then you get the idea of loyalty in a relationship.
Yeah, yeah. And not just some contract you throw on the shelf that, okay, you do
this and I do this. We've heard that more
recently, that idea of make sure you're thinking of your covenant as a relationship, not just a
contract. Thanks for saying that. Oh, thank you for that. Really nice putting a point on it too.
Maybe while we're in this section of verses, if we ask ourselves one question, well,
what does obedience look like? How do we see the Lord framing obedience in section 1? Another framing principle I think is
going to help us as we come to the Doctrine and Covenants is what do we learn
about the nature of God from section 1? And that's gonna be something we're
gonna see just weave its way through the Doctrine and Covenants. Verse 17 we start
seeing some really interesting and telling and beautiful things about the nature of God.
Wherefore, I the Lord, knowing the calamity which should come upon the inhabitants of the earth,
called upon my servant Joseph Smith Jr. I remember an electric moment. John, I think this was in our class with Richard Bennett, a great BYU professor and historian. He called this the proactivity of God. Normally we think
about the first vision experience, for example, of that Joseph Smith approaches the Lord and
the Lord responds. But that's not how it's framed in verse 17. Knowing the calamity which
should come, the Lord says,
I called upon my servant Joseph Smith so that he was proactive.
He was reaching out.
And we think, what do we see in Joseph Smith's story that shows that proactivity?
Well, how about his reaction when he reads James 1.5?
The Lord, you can just sense he's calling to him through that verse,
other experiences in his life with his family,
so that the Lord is the one
doing the initial calling, the reaching out. I love that indication that we have a proactive
God who calls on us, allows us to respond, but he's calling, he's proactive.
I'm thinking of Elder Ciron's phrase, he is in relentless pursuit of you.
He is in relentless pursuit of you.
Man, so well said.
And then I also love this sense that the Lord seeing calamities
and that he's provided a way
to overcome all these calamities.
And it starts with calling his servants
and then the revelations that come
and all of the things that are going to follow from that.
Then we just get this great litany of results
that what happened because Joseph Smith was called
and what is going to come out of the restoration.
You know what I love about what you just said, JB,
that proactivity of the Lord, I feel like yes,
the restoration, the first vision, yes, there is a God
and he is real and then it seems so much that comes afterwards is what kind of being is God.
And there were some different ideas out there. All of this tells us, oh this is what he's like.
He is relentlessly pursuing us. He is proactive, knowing what's going to come. I called upon my
servant Joseph Smith and we learn such wonderful things about his nature as this Book of Commandments Doctrine and Covenants unfolds.
Now, here, here, I think this is just giving us a great glimpse into those things and the
kind of things that can give us confidence and instill in us hope.
And then it talks about us in verse 19, the weak things of the world.
My son got some barbells and I know that I am one of the weak things in the world.
Notice in verses 1 through 6 we have who he's talking to, then 7 through 10 what he's talking
about.
And now we're moving into the why.
Why we're doing this.
I know what's about to happen.
I called Joseph Smith.
Here's what can happen for you.
If you listen, if you pay attention,
here's all the good things that can happen in your life.
Is that kind of a decent way to outline it?
I think that's a really nice outline. Yeah
Underscoring this is that idea that the Lord is calling servants if you're an honest Bible reader
We just have to confront this this is the way the Lord works is his pattern is to call
Prophets to call his servants and then to speak to the world.
Who is speaking to what and why?
That's a nice way to break down the section.
I want to help you.
I want to save you.
I have this numbered 10 promises starting in verse 19 and ending in verse 28.
The weak things of the world shall come forth and break down the mighty and strong ones.
Two, that man should not counsel his fellow man, neither trust in the arm of the Lord.
Three, that every man might speak in the name of God the Lord, even the Savior of the world.
Four, that faith might increase in the earth.
It's kind of fun to see that proactive God listing, here's what I want. Here's what's possible.
And this could be a good chance also, JB, to really talk about, I mean, this is the
first time if you're reading the Doctrine and Covenants for the first time that you
get this name.
I called Joseph Smith Jr.
JB, in your studies of Joseph Smith, which I'm thinking have been pretty extensive, what have you found?
Such a profound question, but what a beautiful one.
I am so struck with Joseph Smith's courage in responding to the revelations.
his sense of his own weakness, his own humanity, but the confidence that he drew from knowing that he was on the Lord's errand. They gave him a fearlessness that
always impresses me. And I'm also impressed that, as we're gonna see in
this Doctrine and Covenants Church History year, that when things were difficult, they faced some horrific challenges that instead of dampening
his enthusiasm or instead of causing him to pull back, he thought bigger. He was emboldened
and he was still open to responding to the Lord's command to do more projects, to expand
his thinking. He was indomitable. The
great quote that George A. Smith is the one who transmits this to us about being
in the lowest pit of Nova Scotia and having the Rocky Mountains piled on top
of him that he would come out on top. There was something indomitable and
buoyant about him and I think that probably disposition and personality was
part of that but more than that I think it was the confidence of knowing that he was on the Lord's
errand and that the Lord had called him. He just had that absolute faith that the Lord
could make him what he wanted him to be.
And he calls him and all of us in verse 19, the weak things of the world. It's kind of
a hard thing to hear when you're Joseph Smith or any of us and the Lord says,
I chose you.
So everyone would know it was me.
Like I took the one that you would never think could do something like this.
It reminds me of the Old Testament.
Here's Abraham, just this guy.
Abraham and Sarah, just this immigrant and his wife.
Look at Mary in Nazareth, just a teenager
in a tiny little town, and then you have it here again, a teenage boy. I called him this
weak thing, and he's going to do something great.
When you put it that way, it made me think of the Gideon story in Judges, where the Lord
sort of intentionally diminishes Gideon's army,
just so there would be no way of mistaking this on their own power that you just cannot look at
this and say that I have trusted in the arm of flesh and we've turned out well, part of the
testimony is there's only one way to explain it and it's the miracle that the Lord is behind it.
I think two of the context, we we think back at historical context, so imagine
we've got this conference happening in November 1831 when this preface comes out and there are
just 10 elders. I mean, the conference is 10 elders. They're going to be charged to go out
and spread this message. And you can imagine how weak they have felt. You can just hear this preface
speaking to them in their immediate
circumstances of their feeling their own weakness and reminding them, this is what I've always
done. This is what the Lord is saying, I've always done this and you're going to be able
to do this too as weak things.
Coming up in part two of this episode.
Just that reassurance that we can be forgiven.
That's going to be a doctrine coming to steam that we're just going to see over and over
and over how often the Lord is promising and reassuring forgiveness.
And his Isaiah 1, Scarlet things can be made white as snow or section 58, I the Lord remember
them no more. I mean it's just this beautiful complete totality of
forgiveness and fresh starts.