Follow Him: A Come, Follow Me Podcast - From Crime to Christ • followHIM Favorites • September 16-22 • Come Follow Me

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone, welcome to Follow Him Favorites. This is where John and I share a single story to go with each week's lesson. John, we're in 3rd Nephi 1-7. I was reading about the Gadianton robbers and how some of them converted and came back to live among the people. And I thought of a story I've heard you tell many times about a man who converted to the gospel. I was leaving a mall downtown Salt Lake City, and there was somebody standing by a table at Desert Book at a book signing. So I went and bought his book. This guy's first name was Mario.
Starting point is 00:00:33 He's part of organized crime, Hank. When he gets home, his wife says, Hey, I let a couple of young men in suits in the house. And he's like, what? Yeah, a couple of young men in suits, they were missionaries. He's like, they're not missionaries. They're federal agents. I told you never open the door for anybody. They have this big fight. She's like, no, no, they were too young. I don't think they're federal agents. Long story short, he's watching for him the next day.
Starting point is 00:00:58 And he says they round the corner. One of them looked like he was about 12 and the other was maybe 18. I thought, okay, here's what we're going to do. I'm going to open the door and see if they'll walk past me because a cop will never let you get behind him. And I didn't know that. He learned that in organized crime school. He opens the door and these two elders walk right past him. Okay. They're either really highly trained or they're missionaries. They sit down and start to talk. Mario eventually becomes convinced, okay, these guys are really missionaries. He starts firing every tough question he's got at them until it gets so late, one of the missionaries start looking
Starting point is 00:01:38 at his watch. Finally, Mario's like, what's the matter? The missionary says, well, we have these rules. We're supposed to be in at 930. It's 930 right now. The Mario says, if you guys leave now, you're never coming back. The missionary is like, do we call our mission president? Yeah, there's the phone. So he picks up the phone and Hank, this is not a,
Starting point is 00:01:59 this is, this is an old phone. And he calls the mission president, hey, president, we got this investigator. That's what he calls the mission president. Hey, president, we've got this this investigator. That's what I used to call him. He has all these questions and he wants us to stay, but it's nine thirty. What should we do? And the mission president says, well, OK, I'll tell you what, you can stay till ten thirty. Let me talk to your investigator.
Starting point is 00:02:19 The mission president says, sir, would you follow these young men home tonight and make sure they get home safely? Because, you know, there's some shady characters out there. Mario's like, yeah, I'll take care of them. Mario keeps taking the lesson. Eventually he joins the church and the bishop says, Mario, you're in. I know we love you, but you need to be all the way in." Mario's like, they know I'm still doing illegal stuff. He has this horrible decision to make. Do I leave the church or do I leave organized crime? Wow. How do you normally leave organized crime, Hank,
Starting point is 00:02:59 in a box? You don't. Yeah. Cement over shoes in the East River. No, they kill you. Yeah. What happens if you leave the church? They send home teachers. And so he's like, which one of these is worse? He plants, he schemes, he hid in a cabin, even his wife didn't know that he had. And this is how determined he was. I have got to stay in this church. I found something wonderful. He calls the boss and says, I want to meet, I want out. I've joined this church. He just screamed at him on the phone, finally set up a meeting.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And he says, I walk into this abandoned warehouse. I hate my word. If anybody sets up a meeting with you in an abandoned warehouse, what does this tell you? Don't go. He said, my uncle was standing outside with a bat, my uncle hitting this bat into his hand. And I don't think it was, hey, when we're done, let's play baseball, right?
Starting point is 00:03:56 He's hitting this bat into his hand. And he pointed at this table, like sit down. He goes in there, he sits down. He says that the crime boss stands up and screamed at him for half an hour. It's finally like, is it my turn? He's like, look, I've joined this church and I've become what we used to. Remember, this is an old story. I've become a Mormon. And the mafia boss sits back in his chair and he goes, gets back in his chair and he goes,
Starting point is 00:04:24 Mormons. I know these people. Mario's first thought was the Mormons are connected. Oh, wow, what a scam. I should have seen this coming. This is brilliant. He's like, no, that's not it. He says, I know these people.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Apparently what happened, they had a newly elected governor in this state and he was a member of the church. This crime boss brought him a briefcase with a million dollars in it and said, hey, you do your thing, let us do our thing, look the other way, here's a million dollars tax-free. And this governor, latter they say, governor said, take your money, get out of here,'m gonna take you down and this crime boss was like you're gonna be one of them if you do everything these people ask I got nothing to worry about and he walked out of the abandoned warehouse and Mario said think I'm gonna take a bullet in the back and he never did now you're the bishop What calling do you give this guy? I don't know. Primary, right. He
Starting point is 00:05:32 was called to teach the 10 year olds. He said, when the bishop called me and oh my goodness, Hank, I've been in this position before. The bishop called me. I said, Bishop, I got to tell you something. I can't read. And I could just imagine the bishop's, you'll be fine. You'll be okay. Here's the manual. You're holding it upside down. Imagine how humbling. Mario walks into this room. He says, there's three 10 year old boys there. And he had to tell them, grown man, boys I'm supposed to be your primary teacher, but boys I can't read. I love the definition of the pure love of Christ. Love for Christ, love from Christ, love like Christ. Three 10-year-old boys said, sit down, we'll help you. They're reading
Starting point is 00:06:26 the manual and they're sliding it back and forth and passing it back and forth and Mario says those boys taught me the gospel. And it wasn't what they read, it was how they treated him. If you get this book, the dedication says to my 10 year old primary class. I was speaking about this at a big event in Cincinnati once. Somebody raised their hand. I mean, we're in a room with 2,500 women and I just thought, take the comment. And I did, and this woman says, I'm sitting next to the person who wrote that book. She was the ghostwriter for the book. I talked to her afterwards and she said, yeah, he passed away last
Starting point is 00:07:05 year as a temple worker. I'm looking at 3rd Nephi 5, they did forsake all their sins, their abominations, and their whoredoms, did serve God with all diligence day and night. And it talks about the Gadiant and robbers and Mario didn't do anything as bad as these guys. As many as would repent of their sins and enter into covenant were set at liberty." It's such a cool story. So when I read this, I think there's hope for everybody. Wow. Set at liberty. And that's not just a physical freedom. That's a spiritual freedom that he found. Oh, absolutely. Changed his whole life and passed away, firm in the faith, as a temple worker. How cool is that?
Starting point is 00:07:48 That's great. From crime to Christ. I love it. We hope you'll join us on our full podcast. It's called Follow Him. You can get it wherever you get your podcasts. We're with Dr. Craig Manning this week. He's awesome.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Come and see what he does with these chapters and then come join us next week. We'll do another follow him favorites

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