Follow Him: A Come, Follow Me Podcast - "Why is the law of chastity so important?" : follow HIM Favorites

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everyone, welcome to Follow Him Favorites. If you've been following this year, you know that Follow Him Favorites, we ask a single question of the lesson. And the lesson this week is in second Samuel. We're talking about King David and the Goliath he couldn't kill, which was this abuse of his power. John, I have students and children that I get to teach the law of chastity, too. And I think a natural question is when I'm getting such an opposite message from so many other media sources, why is this one so important? Right? Why does this one matter so much? What would you say to someone who says, why is the law of chastity so
Starting point is 00:00:42 important? That is a get out the proclamation to the world on the family type question, isn't it? Because it's all such an important part of God's plan is families, but in the right way, I guess. And so maybe a little bit of trusting God's commandments, I think also, I remember Sherry Ducing and one of her books once, I thought, oh my goodness, that is so insightful.
Starting point is 00:01:03 She said, I've never heard anyone who has said, I'm a happier person. I have more peace of mind. I feel better about myself as a result of breaking the law of chastity. And so of course, you're not going to hear that. So there may be a, I trust God element. He loves me. So sometimes he says, I love you like this. I love you. Sometimes he says, I love you like this. That'll shalt not. Another thing I think is maybe a better question for us and a really one we can really apply in all of our teenage young adult friends, all of us really, is what strategies do we use to combat temptation regarding the law of Chesset or even thinking about it, kind of like bringing in this David story. And for me, Hank, I just think that when I teach the war chapters
Starting point is 00:01:51 in the Book of Mormon, I teach Alma 52 as a why did they leave their stronghold thing? And I always bring in this story of David because there were little kind of little steps where first he wasn't where he was supposed to be. He was up on the, it says at a time when kings went to war, he's up on his porch. Then he sees Bathsheba, oh, cut it off right there. Go inside, singing him, whatever, right? Then there's another step. We'll go find out who she is. So they find out who she is, they come back. Well, okay, David, can you stop there? But then it was what? We'll go send for her.
Starting point is 00:02:24 It's just the story. it's a punch in the gut because this was David that slew Goliath but his own lust and curiosity there, you know, is too much for him. And so I think we all can see that lesson. Elder Maxwell said something once and some of the young people might now remember Elder Maxwell, but he says, initially when a temptation comes, we are stronger than the temptation, but then he used a word
Starting point is 00:02:48 dalliance, like we dalliant it dalliance turns things upside down. And suddenly the temptation becomes stronger than us. And so you got to not take that extra step each time like David did. And so maybe we can learn that great lesson from him as quickly as you can realize what's happening, cut it off, don't leave your stronghold. I don't know, is that help, Hank? Well, John, what you're saying here reminds me of King Benjamin, watch your thoughts,
Starting point is 00:03:19 your words and your deeds. David's thoughts became words. Let's inquire after her, right? Well, go find out about that, find out about that woman. And those words turned into deeds. So if he could have controlled the thought, if he would have had the thought and then walked away, the thought never becomes words, right?
Starting point is 00:03:39 But when the thoughts become words, then he still could have stopped after that. You know what? Forget about that inquiry, I sent. Forget about that. I don't want to know. But those words then became deeds. I like the commas.
Starting point is 00:03:51 Watch your thoughts, words and deeds. There's a comma between each one. You can stop. Yeah, like there's a sequence. Even I think Jacob that we both love in the book, Mormon, talks about, I can tell you concerning your thoughts, how you're beginning to labor and sin. All of this starts with a thought. So if you can cut off the thought, then you won't go further type of a thing. Easier said than done, but yeah, but the formula is
Starting point is 00:04:13 right there. And when we have an awareness that, you know, I need to change my thoughts right now. So much of a better place to start and an easier place to start than when it starts becoming deeds. So. I love how you said that, John. You're saying, I'm having this thought. Having the thought does not mean you're broken. It doesn't mean you're sinful.
Starting point is 00:04:32 It doesn't mean you're awful. What are you going to do now? Right. Right. What are you going to do now that you've found out you're human and you've had a thought? What are you going to do? You asked about ways to flee temptation, right? How do you get away from temptation?
Starting point is 00:04:44 There's one thing that I learned years and years ago, maybe it was my father, a church leader or a seminary teacher, I don't remember who it was. It went something like this and I've kind of developed it in my own teaching. When I go out and use a hammer, I don't think about that hammer's past and I don't think about its future, and I don't think about how it feels at the time when I use it I use it because it is an object. I just smash that hammer and guess what John when my hammer breaks Guess what I do? I throw it away and I get a new one. Well people are not objects David uses Bashiba as an object
Starting point is 00:05:23 Something for him to use. He doesn't think about her past. He doesn't think about her future and he doesn't think about her feelings. That's abuse, right? Doesn't think about her husband. For me personally, I've always tried to remember people are not objects. If someone is being used to the point where,
Starting point is 00:05:41 you don't care about their future, you don't care about their past, you don't care about their feelings, you don't care about their past, you don't care about their feelings, you're in the wrong place. That's one reason to me, pornography is so offensive, is that people become objects, to be used and then thrown away and a new one. I can get a replacement anytime,
Starting point is 00:05:58 especially with technology. People are not objects. Don't use people as objects. They are children of God. The worth of souls is great in the sight of God. Now, John, we don't want anyone to come away from following him in favor. It's feeling guilty. What are we going to say to those who kind of
Starting point is 00:06:15 sit and listen to this and go, oh man, what if I've really made some serious mistakes? How do we help them? Yeah, I'm so glad you said that because I think Heavenly Father knows the world he sent us to. I think he knows this 2022 world's pretty tough. I love the metaphor of the covenant path. There are off ramps, but there are always on ramps. Just get back on the covenant path. And you've
Starting point is 00:06:44 got help, you've got a quorum, you've got covenant path and you've got help. You've got a quorum, you've got a bishop, you've got someone who can give you a blessing and you just relentlessly keep coming back on the covenant path. And I think you grow stronger. Maybe it's not as fast as you want, but you keep coming back. Yep. Keep coming back. I hope that's encouraging to people that there's always a way back. The Lord offers that sacrament table every single Sunday and there's a way to keep coming back. Hopefully that's helpful.
Starting point is 00:07:14 That's a fantastic thought, John, that you can come back. We're kind of like a car and we get beat up a little bit on the roads of life and we go see the mechanic and the savior is an excellent mechanic. He can straighten out any misalignment. He can fix the dense. He can make it. So every time you come out of that mechanic shop, that sacrament meeting, you're a brand new car. You have that brand new car smell. So please come back. Please return. Don't say I've gone too far, I've done too much, it's too embarrassing, it's too shameful, it's not. Please come back. We want you here. None of us is perfect. None of us has walked a perfect road. We're all here because of the great mechanic. So you can join us. Come join us as we all try to visit the mechanic shop as as easy as we can. And my fear, John, is it that
Starting point is 00:08:05 someone could go, well, if I can just fix it, then no big deal, right? Then I'll just keep sitting. Yeah, you could fix it every time. The problem is eventually you won't want to come back to the mechanic. It won't be appealing to you to get fixed up. Please repent, come back to us. Yeah. And we don't want it to sound like, well, if I mess up, I'll just do this. Well, if I mess, no, we're trying to make progress. We're trying to become more like the savior. We're trying, ultimately, we want to lose desire for sin. But Joseph Smith said, thankfully,
Starting point is 00:08:36 this is a station to which no man ever arrived in a moment. There's miraculous stories like King Benjamin's people, but even then, I don't think that was permanent when they lost all desire for sin He said now you got to come back tomorrow and I'm gonna tell you I'm gonna give you a name and you're gonna take this name upon you And that name is the the mechanic you've been talking about the name of the Savior So even for those exceptional stories there's a growth process and it's not immediate I'm glad Joseph Smith said that but we're trying to lose desire for sins slowly over time and the Savior is the only one who can help us do that.
Starting point is 00:09:11 That's my belief. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. Well, thanks for joining us today on Follow Him Favorites. We hope you'll come back next week. Come join us on our big full podcast. We're interviewing Dr. Michael Goodman. He has a PhD in marriage and family development.
Starting point is 00:09:27 We'd love to have you join us on our full podcast and join us next week for another episode of Follow Him Favorites. Thank you.

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