followHIM - Doctrine & Covenants 67-70 Part 1 • Brother Peter Vidmar • June 23-29 • Come Follow Me

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

How do Olympic dreams, pioneer faith, and gospel perseverance all tie into one extraordinary legacy? Olympic gold medalist Peter Vidmar shares powerful lessons of faith, perseverance, and the early hi...story of the restored gospel–including the remarkable story of his ancestor, Solomon Chamberlain, who had a vision of the Three Degrees of Glory before the First Vision.SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTSEnglish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC226ENFrench: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC226FRGerman: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC226DEPortuguese: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC226PTSpanish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastDC226ESYOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/qrTRsyAvNxwFREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKSNew Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBookOld Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBookWEEKLY NEWSLETTERhttps://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletterSOCIAL MEDIAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcastTIMECODE00:00 - Part 1 - Brother Peter Vidmar00:49 Peter Vidmar’s bio07:59 Handstands with missionaries10:39 Come, Follow Me Manual12:28 1 degree to Joseph Smith and the  3 Degrees of Glory17:58 Missionaries serving through hardships20:38 “Doubt not, fear not”23:14 No one can survive being put under a microscope25:03 Joy in others’ success29:58 Elder Holland the parable of the laborers in the vineyard33:55 Dwelling on the past37:24 Applicable bits of counsel40:40 Avoid distractions43:32 The gift of a generous coach50:01 Chocolate on a soccer uniform54:58 Parental patience and sacrifices1:00:28 Family motto: We don’t quit1:04:22  End of Part I - Brother Peter VidmarThanks to the followHIM team:Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, SponsorDavid & Verla Sorensen: SponsorsDr. Hank Smith: Co-hostJohn Bytheway: Co-hostDavid Perry: ProducerKyle Nelson: Marketing, SponsorLisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show NotesWill Stoughton: Video EditorKrystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, WebsiteAriel Cuadra: Spanish TranscriptsAmelia Kabwika: Portuguese TranscriptsHeather Barlow: Communications DirectorIride Gonzalez: Social Media, Graphic Design"Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonaldhttps://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Coming up in this episode on Follow Him. I'll give you an example. 1983 World Gymnastics Championships in Budapest, Hungary. Going into the horizontal bar finals, I was in second place. I was ahead of all the Russian and Chinese gymnasts. There was one great gymnast from Japan ahead of me. I had a certain combination of skills that I developed that was my trademark at the time. That's what got me into the finals. I made it successfully. And now I have a chance to become the world champion on the high bar. Hello, my friends. Welcome to another episode of Follow Him. My name is Hank Smith. I am
Starting point is 00:00:36 your host. I'm here with my co-host, John, by the way, who does not mind being my equal, he does this not grudgingly. John, that is Doctrine and Covenants, section 70. The Lord says he wants the saints to be equal and this not grudgingly. That is you, John. If you don't mind me being your equal. I'm just happy to be here. It's pretty incredible to me. When I was 12 years old, I sat and listened to John, by the way, at youth conference.
Starting point is 00:01:07 If you would have told me one day, you're gonna do a podcast with that guy, I would have first asked what in the world is a podcast? And I was only 13 at the time. Yeah, yeah, 12 and 13. John, we are joined today by brother Peter Vidmar, who needs no introduction. For those who don't know, I am very nervous to have brother Vidmar here. I know you're not, John, because you and he are friends. We are. We sit together on the
Starting point is 00:01:40 Young Men's Advisory Council. They used to call it the Young Men's General Board. Maybe it sounded too much like Young Men are Generally Bored, so they changed it to the Young Men's Advisory Council. Welcome, Brother Vidmar. Welcome to follow him. It's a thrill to be here. I feel sub-equal here with both of you. I still wonder, how did I get on this podcast? I listen to it, I watch it, and I think, I'm not a scholar. I don't have that spiritual gray matter, but I'm gonna do my best today. I'm thrilled to be with you.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And yes, John is a dear friend. I've admired him for many years. I just pinch myself that we get to serve together. It's been an absolute joy. Yeah, well, when John and I talk about potential guests, your name is in lights for John. It's this short of idolatry, I think. All right. John, let's continue in the Doctrine and Covenants here.
Starting point is 00:02:36 We're in Hiram, Ohio. The church is what? A little over a year and a half old. When you think this young church, brand new in Ohio, not even there a whole year, what comes to mind? Some of these early missionary efforts come to mind. How that must have been, you might have some printed revelations, you might not, but you're going to go out. I was talking with my family about this last night. People were hungering for this New Testament church. When they heard about a restoration, those missionaries were so excited to go out and tell
Starting point is 00:03:12 people about it. As we've looked at before, as those missionaries hit Kirtland, Hiram, Thompson, Ohio, the church blossoms with growth in Ohio and we move to Ohio. Brother Vidmar, Peter, as we're looking at these three sections, what are you looking forward to? At the beginning in 67, the Lord talks about the prophet's weaknesses. In verse 4, he says, I the Lord given to you a testimony of the truth, the Lord's bearing testimony of the truth of this work. He says, which are lying before you, your eyes have been upon my servant Joseph Smith Jr. and his language you've known and his imperfections you've known and you sought in your heart's
Starting point is 00:03:57 knowledge that you might express beyond his language. This you also know. He's basically acknowledging, I know he's not perfect. Isn't that great? What a support for all of us. We all know of our imperfections. I know of my imperfections, yet the Lord still allows us to serve him, allows us to do all we can in his church and in his gospel. Even with our weaknesses, maybe we can do some good. In my previous life as a gymnast, I mean, I was always overwhelmed with my inadequacies. That's why I tried to get better was because I would do something and it wasn't very good. I'd do it again. It wasn't very good. I'd do it again.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It wasn't very good. Eventually, I started to get the hang of it. Pretty soon those weaker things became stronger. That progression, I think, is something that's universal. It's physical, it's also spiritual. He's teaching us that in section 67. Fantastic. John, there may be a handful of our listeners who don't know who Peter Wiedmar is. Maybe they've already googled it, now they know. But for those who don't have the internet in front of them, give us a bio. I have a short bio. It doesn't do him justice.
Starting point is 00:05:07 I may keep adding Peter Glenn Vidmar. He served as award mission leader, public affairs specialist, early morning seminary teacher, bishop state presidency counselor, mission president in the Australia Melbourne mission. Did I say it right? Don't pronounce the R's, Melbourne. Melbourne, Melbourne mission. He's volunteered at a number of sports community organizations, received a Bachelor of Arts degree from UCLA in economics. He also had an internationally competitive career in
Starting point is 00:05:37 gymnastics. Okay, that's an understatement. After I finish the bio, I'm gonna come back to that. He became a professional speaker at corporate meetings and events. He was born in Los Angeles to John Red Vidmar and Doris Marilyn Neely Vidmar. He and his wife Donna, who is awesome, have five children, nine grandchildren. They live in the Heber area. As of last week, 10 grandchildren now. Yeah. Little Rumi Vidmar was born. Yeah. So cool. Here's what I remember, because I got home from my mission in late 83 and 84. I'm watching the Summer Olympics. People are saying, that guy's a Latter-day Saint, that guy's a Latter-day Saint. We're watching Peter Vidmar win a gold medal in a team for the gymnastics
Starting point is 00:06:23 team, a silver in the all-around, and a gold on the pommel horse. Maybe people can YouTube some of these and watch. Peter, can you tell us what score you got on the pommel horse there? Lee Ning, who is the great gymnast from China, he and I were tied for first place going into the finals on the pommel horse. Back in those days, the scores carried over. Your previous score was added to the final score. Nowadays, it's one shot, you go out there and whoever wins that one performance wins the gold medal. Here was an accumulation of your compulsory score, your optional score, and then your final score. I was tied with Leaning. He went up before
Starting point is 00:07:01 me and he scored a perfect 10. I'm pretty good at math. So I knew that the time for the gold medal I had to score a perfect 10. I was fortunate that I did. What a moment. I've seen the video. Peter is surprised when he sees the 10 in lights there. It is such a cool moment. Hank, we talk about this. How long is a routine on a pommel horse? How many seconds is that? I don't know, 30 seconds. 30 seconds. How many years of preparation? How many hours, years of workouts for that 30 seconds, you know? Malcolm Gladwell in his book The Tipping Point talks about the 10,000 hours, that that's how long it takes to become world-class or something. I did my
Starting point is 00:07:44 math when it was all over and I think for me it was about 20,000 hours that that's how long it takes to become world class or something. I did my math when it was all over and I think for me it was about 20,000 hours in the gym. How cool is that? It is what it is. I'm no different than any other athlete that's trying to make it. You just got to put in the time. There's no magic formula. Peter, when you were a mission leader, did missionaries ever ask you to, you know, do a routine or do a handstand or something? Well, I'm dressed as a mission president every day, so I'm in a suit. I actually performed on the pommel horse for audiences up until age 52. I tried to stay in
Starting point is 00:08:16 shape on it. Then I realized that eventually I'm going to start falling off the pommel horse in front of audiences and they're going to say, now there's an old guy clinging to his past. the pommel horse in front of audiences and they're going to say, now there's an old guy clinging to his past. I decided this to stop. On the mission, when I arrived, I had an elder Wynira, a wonderful elder. I think he's from Perth. Everybody's bigger than me, but he was bigger than me. He looks at me and says, President, I heard you were a gymnast. I said, yeah, I was a gymnast. Well, can you do a handstand? And I said, of course I can do a handstand. He said, you want to have a contest? This was the mission leader council.
Starting point is 00:08:51 He's one of the zone leaders. And I said, yeah, I have a contest. We'll win. I said, right now. Really? Yeah, right now. And he said, okay. So he takes his coat off.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I take my coat off. And then they'll do Stanton Weiser from Ogden, Utah, walks up, hey, can I do it too? I look at him, he wasn't a big kid, he was a little guy like me, looked pretty fit. I eyed him up and said, yeah, you can do that. Now we kick up to a handstand. Elder Renear will admit he didn't last very long, he falls down. Then all I hear as I'm holding the handstand is, come on Elder Weiser, come on Elder Weiser. I said, is he still up?
Starting point is 00:09:26 He's still up, President. Wow. Now, I hadn't trained for this, OK? I hadn't been doing handstands as mission prep. I can do a handstand, but now I'm getting tired. I keep hearing, come on, Elderweiser. I'm wondering why they're not cheering for me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Finally, Elderweiser falls down. Now, of course, I'm still up there, but I probably had 10 seconds left in me, if that. Wow. But I acted like I had 10 minutes left in me when I got down. I'm thinking to myself, man, I'm gonna be so sore tomorrow, because that was everything I had. Elder Weiser, bless his heart, we would have a challenge at every Zone Conference after that. He beat me every time. Wow. Really? I started training. I would get up in the morning, I'd do my little morning run-off, then I would do a series of handstands, hold it for a minute, rest for a minute, hold it for,
Starting point is 00:10:16 thinking, oh he's not gonna beat me this time. He beat me. I hated that. But he's such a great young man that I thought, all right, all right. It was a fun little tradition at the Zone Conference, as anybody that wanted to have a handstand contest with President Vidmar. Oh, that's great. Because that's the only thing I could beat them at. They're all big rugby players, a lot of them. I'm not going to challenge them to rugby, that's for sure. It reminds me a little bit of John, have you ever heard the Wilford Woodruff story where he wrote in his journal? He said, today was a hard day. I got out shucked by my grandson, chucking corn. He's 90, shucking the corn. Well, let's get underway here. I'll read from the Come Follow Me manual. Then Peter, let's see where you're going to take us. This is how it starts.
Starting point is 00:11:02 From 1828 to 1831, the prophet Joseph Smith received many revelations from the Lord including divine counsel for individuals, instructions on governing the Church, visions of the latter days, and many inspiring truths of eternity. But many of the saints hadn't read them. The revelations weren't yet published and the few available copies were handwritten on loose sheets that were circulated among members and carried around by missionaries. Then in November 1831, Joseph called the Council of Church Leaders to discuss publishing the Revelations. After seeking the Lord's will, these leaders made plans to publish the Book of Commandments, the precursor to today's Doctrine and Covenants.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Soon everyone would be able to read for themselves the Word of God revealed through a living prophet, vivid evidence that the keys of the mysteries of the Kingdom of our Savior are again entrusted to man. For these and many other reasons, saints then and now consider these revelations to be worth the riches of the whole earth." John, isn't this where section one comes into play that we talked about in the beginning of the year? Yeah, right on this area because they were thinking if we're going to publish this, let's write a preface. They make a few attempts and they're just not good. Boy, Joseph, doesn't he walk over to the window, starts dictating section one, which is awesome. Mind blowing. Go back and read it sometime. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Wow. Peter, what do you want to do from here? In that preface as you talked about some of the people going out with copies and pages to teach and preach the gospel. Imagine the enthusiasm they had, that that's all they had but they still wanted to take it with them and go share it with others. Something that we could learn in terms of missionary zeal. If I could go back a little bit, talk about my personal family history. I mentioned this to John a while ago in that my great-great-grandfather, Solomon Chamberlain, was baptized by the Prophet Joseph in Seneca Lake. He wrote a little autobiography. He talked about when he was growing up that he didn't feel
Starting point is 00:13:05 like he lived a good life. He'd been praying for forgiveness when he was about 19 years old. He said, like Enos of old, I felt like my sins were forgiven because I'd prayed so earnestly to be forgiven. He said that then he had a vision of three heavens and their glories. These are his own words. And the third one far exceeded the others. Then he went from church to church sharing what he thought was the truth that he'd been given to much disdain, of course, and ridicule. But he also said that he received a vision and impression that the Lord would soon, in his words he said this, raise up a church that would be after the apostolic order, that there would be in it the same powers and gifts
Starting point is 00:13:50 that were in the days of Christ and that I should live to see the day. Get this, and there would a book come forth like unto the Bible and the people would be guided by it as well as the Bible. Then he says the next sentence in his biography, this was the year 1816. Wow. This is four years before the first vision. I'll just share one paragraph and then we'll move on. But he said, about that time that Joseph Smith found the gold record, I began to feel that the time was drawing near that the Lord would in some shape or other bring forth his church.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I made some inquiry through the country where I traveled if there was any strange work of God, such as had not been on the earth since the days of Christ. I could hear of none. I was living about 20 miles east of where the gold record was found, on the Erie Canal. I had occasion to go on a visit into Upper Canada. I took boat for Lockport. Then the boat came to Palmyra. I felt as if some good spirit told me to leave the boat. This was a few miles from where the record was found. After leaving the boat, the spirit manifested to me to travel a south course. I did
Starting point is 00:14:58 so for about three miles. I had not as yet heard of the Gold Bible, so-called, because that's what some people called it, I guess, in that area. The Book of Mormon. Nor any of the Joseph Smith family. I was a stranger in that part of the country, a town where I never before had set foot, and knew no one in the town. The next day, he ended up essentially feeling to move in a certain direction and knocked on the door of Hiram Smith. He met Hiram. That's when Hiram shared with him the story of the words of the Book of Mormon, what they knew. When he shared his experiences with Hiram, he says, who told you this? And he said that the Lord told me these things a number of years ago. If you are a visionary house, I wish you would make known some of your discoveries,
Starting point is 00:15:43 for I think I can bear them." That was his introduction then to the restored gospel. But he said that after I'd been here two days, I went with Hiram and some others to Palmyra printing office, where they began to print the Book of Mormon. And as soon as they had printed 64 pages, I took them with their leave and pursued my journey to Canada. And I preached all that I knew to all both high and low, rich and poor. And thus you see, this was the first
Starting point is 00:16:08 that printed Mormonism was preached in this area. That was his experience with the restored gospel. He went through other challenges and trials. He lost his first wife in winter quarters. He said essentially all the happiness in my life had vanished when that occurred. But he stayed faithful, he crossed the plains, ended up of course here. Those are my gospel and church roots. I revere the sacrifice that Solomon Chamberlain made for what he knew to be true.
Starting point is 00:16:38 As you mentioned in the preface that people are just taking pages with them to go share this message before it was even completed. You see then that inspiration and that impetus for Joseph to say, let's put all of these revelations together into a book that we can share. Wow. John, I don't know if our listeners know how rare it is to have family that goes that far back in the history of the church. He has these visions when Joseph Smith is 11. Yeah, it's prior to 1816, four years before the first vision. He's being told, hey, hang on, it's coming. Yeah. Goes to Hiram Smith's door. Yeah. Ah, so good. Oh, it's Solomon Chamberlain.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, Solomon Chamberlain. You could do your research in church history. There's a little vignette about him. His history is published. He is early, early in the restoration. Pre-restoration. Pre-restoration. Yeah. That is fantastic. We don't know if he was present at the organization of the church in the room, but we'd like to say that he was there. Yeah, Seneca Lake. That's where the first baptisms were. Why don't we jump into section 67 together, start pointing out things we want to talk about?
Starting point is 00:17:59 This sounds great. I was sitting here looking at verse one thinking, I should send this to my son in Uruguay. Listen what the Lord says, behold and hearken, oh ye elders of my church who have assembled yourselves together, whose prayers I have heard, whose hearts I know, whose desires have come up before me, behold and lo, mine eyes are upon you. Suddenly these verses you say, listen, apply this right now, the Lord, he's got you, he's watching you. Suddenly these verses you say, listen, apply this right now, the Lord, He's got you, He's watching you. Peter, I'm sure you've got so many stories about your missionaries and their families. I had so many missionaries, so many times as I would meet with them, I wanted to take
Starting point is 00:18:36 my badge off, hand it to them and say, why don't you run the mission? Because there was such a spiritual depth to them. Many of them had endured tremendous hardships just to be a member of the church. Some whose families completely disowned them. Here they were on a mission soon after their conversion. You had missionaries from other parts of the world where the church is not officially recognized. Well, the church is recognized in China, for example. We do have congregations there. But I had a number of missionaries from mainland China that served in Australia, fantastic missionaries, every one of them. I loved that time to serve with them. And
Starting point is 00:19:15 you had missionaries from Taiwan, missionaries from North America, all in the Chinese program, all working together to share the gospel of Jesus Christ. But many of them gave up quite a bit. You cannot do any even shallow dive into church history without finding unbelievable sacrifice. But that goes on today. That still happens today throughout the world. I saw that firsthand with so many of my missionaries. They inspired me. they made me a better person because of their faith. Hank, could you read verse five? Hank Absolutely. This is one we both love, huh, John? Your eyes have been upon my servant, Joseph Smith Jr. His language you have known, his imperfections you have known, and you have sought in your heart's knowledge that you might express beyond his language.
Starting point is 00:20:05 This you also know. They don't like how he's talking. They're like, I could probably do a better job than Joseph. Emma said so many times that he did not communicate well. These educated church leaders thought maybe we can clean this up a bit. Maybe we can make it better. Phelps, Cowdery, McClellan, sure. I'm more educated, sure.
Starting point is 00:20:28 In the timeline, this is about, thank you for bringing that up, Hank, when they were, yeah, let's write one, and it turns out to be section one. The sections are not chronological in the Doctrine and Covenants. Mostly they are, but one comes at about this time. Do you know what I love about verse 5?
Starting point is 00:20:46 What's the theme for the youth for this year? Doubt not, fear not. Look unto me, doubt not, fear not. What I love about this, it reminds me also of section 19 verse, learn of me, listen to my words, walk in the meekness of my spirit. This verse 5 sounds a little bit like, walk in the meekness of my spirit. This verse 5 sounds a little bit like, brethren, you're looking at the wrong thing. We're supposed to look to Christ. When I think of the story of Peter walking on water, how Elder Holland
Starting point is 00:21:15 said while his eyes were fixed upon the Lord, the wind could toss his hair, the spray could drench his robes, all was well, he was coming to Christ. It was only when Peter removed his glance from the Savior to look at the furious waves beneath. Look at what the Lord's saying here. You guys, you're looking at Joseph and his imperfections you've known and his language you have known. Then skip ahead to verse 9, but look at the revelations. There is no imperfection in them. There's no unrighteousness in them. Most of the critics of the church, where do they mostly focus? Yeah, let's attack Joseph, his character. Let's attack Joseph.
Starting point is 00:21:52 His weaknesses. Here the Lord is pointing out the prophet's imperfections. He's not a perfect man, but he's the prophet. He's supposed to be perfect. That should give you and I hope because with all of my imperfections that many are aware of, many aren't aware of, I know my weaknesses. Yet the Lord still allows us to serve him, allows us to do good things, to serve in the church and in callings and in the gospel, warts and all, that we still have a chance to try to make a difference. The Lord knows that we don't measure up to the Savior's perfect standard.
Starting point is 00:22:29 He's saying, look, even my servant Joseph had little imperfections. It's okay. Where's your heart? Keep serving. Don't pay attention to those things. We know where Joseph's heart is. And look unto me. Look unto Christ, that's where you should be looking. Exactly. That verse five, your eyes have been upon Joseph. That could be 2025.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Joseph Smith is, I think, more attacked than ever on a daily basis. I think the Lord would say, look over here. Look to me. Why are you looking at him? Yes, he has imperfections. Yes, his language isn't perfect. Mine is. I have no imperfections. Look here. We had our stake presidents reorganized. Elder Patrick Ciaran came and after we sustained our new stake president, he said, now, don't put him under a microscope. He can't take that, neither could you. If it's kids do something that makes you raise your eyebrows, put them back down. He was so delightful. Our eyes are supposed to be fixed on Christ.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I love how the Lord says, don't look in the wrong place, look at the revelations, look at me. Look at me, yep. Let's take a look at verse 10. He says, and again, verily I say unto you that it is your privilege and a promise I give unto you that have been ordained unto this ministry, that inasmuch as you strip yourselves from jealousies and fears and humble yourselves before me, jealousies and fears and humble yourselves before me for ye are not sufficiently humble the veil shall be rent and you shall see me and know that i am now but the carnal neither natural mind but with the spiritual i wonder if that's not also a message for us today because social media is filled with jealousies, fear and envy. We only see everyone's best day, their best experience. We only see their best part of their life. They create an impression that's not real, that life is always like this. What do we get from that? Sometimes our youth especially will say, well, my life doesn't look like that. They wish their life was different.
Starting point is 00:24:46 They're envious. They're jealous of what they see, but they're not really seeing the bigger picture. Heavenly Father and the Savior is telling us, hey, forget about those things. Don't have fear. Don't be jealous. Be humble. Blessings will come. I have a question for you, Peter, because of your athletic background.
Starting point is 00:25:08 That's very difficult to do as an athlete. Strip yourself from jealousy. Oh yeah. It was there. I really, really wanted to be good. And I trained hard. Half of the United States Olympic team came from my gymnasium. Three of the six members of the team came from UCLA.
Starting point is 00:25:25 They're dear friends of mine, Tim Daggett and Mitch Gaylord. My standard, what I was shooting for was across the gym from me. When I'd see someone do something amazing, I'd think, Oh, wow, that was amazing. I can't do that. It was great because it motivated me. It made me want to work harder. But then they'd have success.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Maybe I'd fall off the pommel horse or fall off the high bar at the next competition and let me want to try harder. It's amazing how I evolved from trying to compare myself with them, knowing farewell that they had strengths that I could not ever match up to. I had strengths that maybe stood out that maybe they couldn't do as well. Once I realized, wait a second, I've got to be the best that I can be. My job is to try to do perfect gymnastics, perfect what I'm trying to focus on. Then what happens is you start to go from envying your teammate to celebrating your teammates success.
Starting point is 00:26:27 Those little petty jealousies that weren't real and natural were in our 20s. We're 20 year old kids. We're trying to all make it to the same level. To reach my goal, I've got to defeat my best friend. So I won the gold on pommel horse and Tim Daggett, who I was just talking to yesterday, won the bronze medal on the pommel horse. He wanted to win the gold, I know that, but it didn't take away from our friendship. As time evolved as a team, by the time we got to the Olympic Games, we really were together. We were a team. We desperately wanted our teammates to have great success and do well, because we kind of had a little chat before the Olympic games and said, if we can all hit our routines,
Starting point is 00:27:08 if we could win this team gold medal for the rest of our lives, every one of us can say, I'm an Olympic champion. Instead of saying, well, I was on a team in which we had a champion here and a champion there because they put a gold medal around every team member's neck. We got up in the victory fan. Each one of us got a gold medal. All six of us can say, I'm an Olympic gold medalist.
Starting point is 00:27:27 That team victory was far more important than what followed the individual accomplishments after that. We realized that. We realized that fortunately, before the games began and we really pulled together and it was a magical moment for us. But no, those feelings, those are real,
Starting point is 00:27:45 but we have to not compare ourselves with others. John, having known you for many, many years now, you are one of the most humble people ever. How do you not get jealous? You just don't. You don't get jealous. John, I know you. You love to see other people succeed.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Hank, I'll back you up 100% on that. I've always admired that most about John because I look up to him so much. He's just, yeah. Okay, new topic now. This is awesome. This goes with this. Alma's getting home from his mission. He could have looked at the four sons of Mosiah and went, wow, you guys did a lot better than I did. I'm in Alma 29, 14. I do not joy in my own success alone.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I'm thinking of you, Peter, looking at your teammates. But my joy is moreful because of the success of my brethren. He says, when I think of the success of these my brethren, he's like almost has an out-of-body experience. He's so happy for them. In the Book of Mormon, people are always falling down. They're out for a few days. That model of being happy for the success of others is, I guess, what we all aspire to.
Starting point is 00:29:03 But I love, Peter, that you could share that and that you could say we were in this together and felt that friendship. I watch lots of sporting events. I see particularly in gymnastics watch the competitors cheer for each other. It's pretty cool to see that. Remember that while I'm competing with my teammate, I am simultaneously competing against him for the individual honors. You genuinely want them to do well. It showed also in the gymnastics training environment because I'm going to give Tim advice. He's going to give me advice saying, Peter, why don't you try doing it this way or that way? That advice he's giving me might be exactly what I needed to defeat him in the competition.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I would do the same for him. Incredible. That's something that we were able to push aside and really pull together for the betterment of the team. Not easy to do in my sport. I'm sure both of you will remember April, 2012. Elder Holland gave this talk on the parable of the laborers in the
Starting point is 00:30:05 vineyard. How some of these laborers get really jealous of what happens. They look sideways. I'm going to read just three paragraphs. I wish I could read the whole thing. He summarizes the parable and then he says, it is with that reading of the story that I feel the grumbling of the first laborers must be seen. As the householder in the parable tells them, I paraphrase only slightly, my friends, I'm not being unfair to you. You agreed to the wage for the day, a good wage. You were
Starting point is 00:30:35 very happy to get the work and I'm very happy with the way you served. You are paid in full. Take your pay and enjoy the blessing. As for the others, surely I am free to do what I like with my own money. Then this piercing question to anyone who needs to hear it. Why are you jealous? Because God is kind. Brothers and sisters, there are going to be times in our lives when someone else gets an unexpected blessing or receives some special recognition. May I plead with us not to be hurt and certainly not to feel envious when good fortune comes
Starting point is 00:31:12 to another person? We are not diminished when someone else is added upon. We are not in a race against each other to see who is the wealthiest or the most talented or the most beautiful or even the most blessed. The race we are really in is the race against sin. And surely envy is one of the most universal of those. And then this made me laugh. Envy is the mistake that keeps on giving. Obviously, we suffer a little when some misfortune befalls us, but envy requires us to suffer all good fortune that befalls everyone we know.
Starting point is 00:31:47 What a bright prospect that is, downing another quart of pickle juice every time anyone around you has a happy moment. To say nothing of the chagrin in the end when we find that God really is both just and merciful, giving to all who stand with Him all that He hath, as the Scripture says. Lesson number one from the Lord's Vineyard. Coveting, pouting, or tearing others down does not elevate your standing, nor does demeaning someone else improve your self-image. So be kind and be grateful that God is kind. It's a happy way to live.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Do you know what it reminds me of? The quick Stephen Covey analogy of the scarcity mentality says if life is a pizza and you take a big piece, then there's less pizza for me. But the abundance mentality says life is a pizza factory. If you're successful, I can be so happy because there's infinite pizza out there. What the Book of Mormon described, what you just read, it's kind of an abundance mentality where we can say good for you and mean that. Good for you, I'm so happy for you. You've shown us that, Peter, in your example of your teammates. The nice thing is that the plan of happiness is not at all like a sport. There isn't one champion. There isn't one victor. We all can receive the greatest of all blessings if we simply follow the
Starting point is 00:33:10 plan. It's available to every single one of us. We all have different abilities. We're all lacking in certain qualities and abilities. The Lord understands all of it. In verse 2, Behold and lo, mine eyes are upon you. I know you. I know what your strengths are, what your weaknesses are. I'll work with you. We're gonna be okay if we do our best to follow the plan. I love how Elder Kieran in his last few addresses as the newest apostle talks about this incredible joyful plan, the plan of joy. Heavenly Father wants us to be happy. That's all he seeks is our happiness. Sometimes I mess it up with my own misconceptions. I have one more athlete
Starting point is 00:33:57 question. Okay, I'm not gonna hold myself to that. I might have more. In verse 14, look at this quick statement, let not your minds turn back. I have a note my margin don't dwell on the past. When I think of any athlete, even golf, you've got a couple of bogeys behind you, how do you not think about the past, Peter, when you get up there? Performance anxiety has always fascinated me. How Richie Saunders can get up there and hit a couple of free throws when the pressure is unbelievable. How do you do that? Not look back and say, oh I've messed this up before. Well I'll give you an example. 1983 World Gymnastics Championships in Budapest, Hungary. Going into the horizontal bar finals,
Starting point is 00:34:45 I was in second place. I was ahead of all the Russian and Chinese gymnasts. There was one great gymnast from Japan ahead of me. I had a certain combination of skills that I developed that was my trademark at the time. That's what got me into the finals. I made it successfully. And now I have a chance to become the world champion on the high bar. In the warmups before the competition began, I was having trouble with that combination of skills. I started to panic and I thought, what am I going to do? My coach is trying to help me. I didn't feel great about it.
Starting point is 00:35:14 I decided to go for it anyways. This was my chance, maybe my only chance, to be a world champion at anything. The gymnast that was in first place blew it, made a mistake. All I have to do now is make my routine successfully. I'll become the world horizontal bar champion. I made the first skill and then the second skills and coming around to catch the bar, the bar was not there. I dropped about 10 feet to my stomach. I got back up. I finished the routine. I was devastated. I thought to myself, is this who
Starting point is 00:35:44 I am? If I make the Olympic myself, is this who I am? If I make the Olympic team, is this going to happen six months from now? All those doubts crept in. But along with that, I remember when I was walking back from the arena to the hotel, I was alone because no one wanted to talk to me.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I said to myself, never again. I will never make that mistake again. I've got to stop taking that skill for granted because I train that skill like all the other skills we do in gymnastics. You've got 150 different skills that comprise all of your performances and you got to perfect all of them, every one of them. Some of them are easy, but some are really hard. That was a really hard one.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I didn't give it the attention that it needed. For the next six months, I focused on that skill a little bit more, a little bit extra, almost every day. Fortunately for me then at the Olympic Games, I did the exact same routine, essentially, scored a perfect 10 on the horizontal bar. I look back and say, I'm so glad I failed. I'm glad I had that mistake because it made me what I needed to be down the road. If we allow mistakes, whether they're regular old mistakes you make in life or sin, if we allow that to change us to be better,
Starting point is 00:36:57 then we can become a stronger person. We can rise far above where we were when that happened. It takes effort. It takes diligence. It takes effort, it takes diligence, it takes patience as well because some of these things take time. People don't ever realize that patience and diligence go hand in hand. Know that something won't come for a long time, but you still got to work on it every day. The more I can apply that in more important matters and spiritual matters, the better off I'll be. This section is so full of applicable bits of counsel.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Strip yourselves from jealousy, humble yourself. We could spend another five hours on how to do that. I wouldn't be any closer than I am now. Carnal mind versus natural man, that's in there a couple of times patience I would love to ask you both how you have developed patience I know you're patient I've seen you be patient in stressful circumstances how have you learned to control that Peter same question to you I'm sure there are times where you're competitive and you're angry you're just able to be patient
Starting point is 00:38:06 and not dwelling on the past. Verse 14, all of these in this little section, the Lord is saying, hey, I can give you the right ingredients for a happy life. I like that President Heakley said that he used to say to himself every morning. I thought, wow, what would a prophet of God say to himself every morning? He would say, things will work out. Do you remember that, Hank? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I'd been a bishop before, felt some of the weight of that. When I heard President Hinckley said that, I thought, imagine shouldering the weight of the entire church. What do you got to do? You keep your eyes on Christ, and you say things will work out, and you do your church. What do you got to do? You keep your eyes on Christ, you say things will work out, you do your best. Boy, that was so President Hinckley. You continue in patience. When our missionaries would come into the mission every six weeks, we'd bring them in. The first day they've got jet lag, they're tired, they're exhausted, but we send them out to the streets
Starting point is 00:39:02 with an experienced missionary having street contact right away. It's kind of a shock for them. But the next day we go through the introduction, welcome to the Australia-Melbourne mission. As we finish all the administrative things, the introductory lessons we give them, I share with them Joshua 1 from the Old Testament. You think about Joshua having to replace, to succeed, Moses of all people. I love to share this with them. The Lord says to Joshua,
Starting point is 00:39:38 Moses my servant is dead, now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel." Then he makes a promise. Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses. Jumping ahead to verse 5, there shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life. As I was with Moses, so I will be with thee. I will not fail thee nor forsake thee. Then you hear it for the first time. Be strong and of a good courage. For under this people shalt thou divide for inheritance the land which I swear unto
Starting point is 00:40:15 their fathers to give them. They're getting ready to cross over Jordan finally after 40 years of wandering in the wilderness. Josh was thinking, me? I'm the guy? I have to now lead the children of 67. He says, let not your minds turn back. He says, turn not from it to the right hand or to the left. Thou mayest prosper with us wherever thou goest. In verse 17, he says, let not your minds turn back. He says, turn not from it to the right hand or to the left. Thou mayest prosper with us wherever thou goest.
Starting point is 00:40:42 In verse 17, he says, let not your minds turn back he says turn not from it to the right hand or to the left thou mayest prosper with us wherever thou goest in my mind I think don't get distracted don't look to the right don't look to the left don't look back look forward where you're going verse 8 he says the book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth but thou shalt meditate therein day and night that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein then you'll be prosperous you'll have success i tell them where do you look you look in your scriptures you look and preach my gospel those are the things you read and focus on don't get distracted then in verse 9 he says it again
Starting point is 00:41:20 have not i commanded thee be strong and of good be not afraid, neither be thou dismayed, for the Lord thy God is with thee, whither soever thou goest." I asked the missionaries, why did he have to tell him three times? To be strong and courageous. He was feeling weak and fearful. That's how missionaries feel. Those first couple weeks in the mission, what am I doing? I've thought about this, I've sung songs about this, but now I'm actually here. This is different than what I thought. I just remind them to be strong and courageous. Don't get distracted. Study the things that you've been studying. The Lord will give you success. And then you see after that that Joshua stands up there and with power he starts to lead because he feels that strength that comes from that
Starting point is 00:42:04 admonition from the Lord to get rid of your fears. I'm here with you. I'm going to guide you. I'm going to help you. Missionaries need to feel that out in the field, especially those first few weeks and months when they're not quite that sure of themselves. This phrase in verse 13, continue in patience, was the name of a talk given by President Uchtdorf in 2010. The reason I know it so well is because I decided to listen to it every day for over a month to see if I could somehow develop more patience. Something that I was actually impatient about was me developing patience. He
Starting point is 00:42:42 told this story, he said when he was 10, his family became refugees. He said he knew how to speak German and Russian, but now everything was in English. He said this was hard for me. There were moments when I truly believed my tongue simply was not made to speak English. The curriculum was new and strange and I fell behind. For the first time in my life, I began to wonder, maybe I'm not smart enough for school. Fortunately, I had a teacher who taught me to be patient, to be steady and consistent in my work. Patient persistence, he calls it, and I would learn.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Over time, difficult subjects became clearer, even English. I began to see that if I applied myself consistently, I really could learn. It did not come quickly, but with patience, it did come. Peter, have you seen that same thing in your career? I had an incredible coach. His name is Makoto Sakamoto. He was the best gymnast in the United States
Starting point is 00:43:44 for many, many years. After finishing his career in the 72 Olympic Games in Munich, he wanted to start coaching. I was one of his first pupils and I stayed with him for 12 years. He's still almost like a second father to me. Had some health struggles as of late. I've gone to visit him. He taught me patience. He taught me to be consistent, know that things will take time.
Starting point is 00:44:06 I remember when I left for my very first training camp, we went to the University of Nebraska. They had just built, at that time, it was the best gymnastics training facility in the country. They built this spectacular gym with the foam pits that you can fall into. They didn't have those in my day. It was just the hard floor and a coach
Starting point is 00:44:22 who's hoping he's going to catch you. I thought, I get to go train at a pit. I get to learn some new crazy skills. I'll never forget before I left, because my coach didn't go to the camp with me. He says, Peter, just so you know, when you come back, I don't care if I learn anything new. I just want you to tell me that you worked harder than everybody there, that you were the hardest working gymnast there. Part of me was going, oh man, but the other part of me knew that he was right. I made it a goal. I was the first one in, last one out. I tried to make sure that whatever conditioning exercises we did, I did a little bit more. I respected him so much. I wanted to be able
Starting point is 00:44:57 to look him in the eye when I got back and say, I did what you told me to do. But I wanted to learn something new. I wanted to come home saying, hey, I just learned this new skill or whatever because they have this foam pit to land into. He taught me that those things will come, but the work ethic has to come before anything else. You need to have that work ethic. Part of that work ethic, of course, is having the patience that things are going to take time to perfect, especially. Pete The same thing works in our discipleship. It's going to take time. The Lord says, be one of the hardest working children I have. I don't know if we all have the perfect modus. I wanted to be a hundred percent home teacher,
Starting point is 00:45:36 yet we've got to try. The Lord will help us with our modus if they're not right. I will hear somebody say, well, I'm going to wait until I'm doing it for the right reasons. That can be a really long wait. We can't stagnate. We've got to go. I know my own kids have got this seminary thing and then they come home. Okay, that was really good. I'm glad I went to that thing.
Starting point is 00:46:00 I guess in our discipleship, it can be like that too. Peter, maybe share what your coach has meant to you in your recent contact with him. My coach made tremendous personal sacrifices for me. He taught me there's a gospel message when you put all of your effort and work into helping someone else, not even thinking about yourself. The first few years that my coach coached me, first couple years he worked at a bank, he could only coach me in the evenings. I would show up at the Culver City Junior High School Girls Gymnasium. We would set up the equipment and have to take it down every day.
Starting point is 00:46:33 It wasn't like a permanent facility. Then he ended up getting the assistant coaching job at UCLA when I was a junior in high school. So I knew I wanted to stay with him. And that was my choice to go to UCLA so I could stay under his tutelage. But what I didn't know, because he never shared it with me, was for the first few years he had no salary from the university. He was a volunteer coach. The way he made extra income was he would translate business journals from Japanese to English or English to Japanese and he got paid by the character, like two cents per character or something like that.
Starting point is 00:47:08 He would coach me. He'd go home, have dinner, and then starting at around 7 o'clock at night, 8 o'clock at night, he would get down and translate these journals. Would do that till 3 o'clock, 4 o'clock in the morning. Then he'd get a few hours of sleep, then he'd get up and he'd go off and coach. Never complained about it, never talked about it. I can't repay him for that. I went to see him. He had a little episode. It was in the hospital in Hawaii where he lives now. He coached at BYU, by the way, for about 14 years. Not a member of the church, but coached at BYU for 14 years and created a number of national champions, all Americans. BYU was always about top five in the country in gymnastics until the program was let go.
Starting point is 00:47:49 He was an amazing coach. I talked to a bunch of teammates. Gar Giong is the coach now at BYU, was a gymnast that trained at BYU with Marco and he got gymnast that he was training with at BYU. I got some UCLA gymnast from way back when, got some Olympic team members. We did little videos, little messages to cheer up Marco while he was in the hospital. Well, I would sit with him, show video after video after video from all these athletes that he coached over the years.
Starting point is 00:48:14 In his own humble way, at the end of all of that, before I went to go home, he says, Pete, I think I did some good, which is the biggest understatement in the history of sports. He did more than that. He did so much more. I'm grateful for mentors. Sometimes we don't say thank you enough. Sometimes they don't even know the good they've done for you until you have mentioned it to them.
Starting point is 00:48:39 They just go about doing good because they love people, but they don't realize the impact they've had on people's lives. I can't tell you how many times I've heard in a farewell, I want to thank my parents, my leaders, and my coaches. Coaches who teach them good things and perseverance and patience like we've been talking about. I remember my high school football coach, Coach Bill Jacobson. I loved him. I would run through a wall for that guy. I knew he loved me. I knew he wanted the very best from me. This lowly little nobody high school kid, he saw someone he could help. John, Peter, have you ever had Center of the Universe Syndrome? This is from President Uchtdorf's same talk. This is where he says
Starting point is 00:49:30 impatience comes from. He says impatience is a symptom of selfishness. It is a trait of the self-absorbed. Oh man. It arises from the all too prevalent condition called Center of the Universe Syndrome, which leads people to believe that the world revolves around them and that all others are just supporting cast in the grand theater of mortality in which only they have the starring role. John, have you ever in your life had Center of the Universe Syndrome? I don't think you have. When I was a toddler, yeah, that was probably everyone exists to get me my ba-ba.
Starting point is 00:50:14 How do we not be impatient when I'm in traffic or something? I get impatient. Where did you say that comes from? It is the trait of the self-absorbed. It is a symptom of selfishness. Peter, any thoughts on that? How do you not be impatient with our children, with strangers, with the church even, or our church leaders? How do I overcome impatience? I only have two items on my desk. One is the Aaronic Priesthood theme. It reminds me of my calling and these wonderful
Starting point is 00:50:46 young men in the church, what their potential is and what my potential is. The other one is a photograph of my five-year-old son who's now 39. So it's been on my desk for 34 years. I'm driving to soccer practice. My son has like seven cowlicks in his hair. It's impossible here to comb. His mission, it was awful to try to comb his hair on a mission. She got a part in his hair, she combed it, she got his new little soccer uniform on. He gets the picture where you're holding the ball, the ball literally is this big compared to his little tiny body. While we're driving over there, he's eating a piece of chocolate. He's eating it and then he's wiping the chocolate on his
Starting point is 00:51:27 jersey. Now instantly the fear that comes into me knowing that my wife's gonna see that I didn't stop him from wiping the chocolate. I just looked at my son and I said, Timothy, I can't believe you did. What are you doing? You're wiping the chocolate on your uniform and your mother got you ready for the picture. We're gonna take the picture in five minutes. How am I gonna get the chocolate off? I remember being so impatient with him
Starting point is 00:51:54 that I could see these tears just well up and these beautiful little brown eyes. I saw him turn and just feel awful. At that moment, I knew I was the worst father in the world. I felt so condemned by his tears. I thought, I can't believe I just did this. This kid is my firstborn. Oh, I'm trying to get the parenthood thing right. I just looked at him. The rest of the drive was, Timothy, I'm so sorry. I shouldn't have raised my voice. Timothy, I'm so sorry. Will you forgive me? I felt so bad. The picture came out. No one could
Starting point is 00:52:26 see, but I could see the little stain on his shirt. I framed it and I stuck it on my desk. It's been there for 34 years to remind me to don't be a lame dad. Just be patient. The small things really are small things. Let them go. I've failed to take heed to that message many times in my life, but it's been a constant, consistent reminder because I was so ashamed of myself for this sweet little innocent five-year-old boy. What a vulnerable tender story. I don't know what this feels like, you guys, to be an impatient father. This is all new ground for me. We've talked about this before Hank, the idea of using family prayer to repent in front of your kids so that they know, hey, I'm working on it too. When they can hear you repent, it models that they can do that. One of my favorite evidences of the Lord's patience is the fact that the sacrament table
Starting point is 00:53:26 is bolted to the chapel floor. It's not wheeled in at Christmas and Easter. The Lord is so patient with us. He's like, you're going to need this again in six and a half days. You know, you're going to need it tomorrow probably, but come back here in seven days. Let's do this again. As we're talking about Joseph Smith and receiving callings, I remember I did not expect this, but when I saw the hands go up to sustain me to be their bishop, that
Starting point is 00:53:59 feeling of with their help maybe I can do this. Seeing that sustaining vote, that means a lot when you see that. It's like they knew my faults, they knew my imperfections, but we'll sustain you in this bishop. I had to repent in front of them too. Hank, would you not want to be a 15-year-old Aaronic priesthood holder in John Bytheway's ward as your bishop? I don't know, you'll have to ask him. Well, John asked me to speak once. I came to his ward. I was talking to one of the youth, a teenage girl. I said, how do you like the ward? And she said, John Bytheway is our bishop. How do you think I like the ward? I was like, say no more. Really?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Oh, you said that. Yeah. I got to write that in my journal. Another talk I tried to listen to dozens of times was The Power of Patience by Robert C. Oakes. General Oakes in the Air Force. Yeah. He told this story. Recently, I attended the funeral of a lifelong friend. His son told a beautiful story of parental patience.
Starting point is 00:55:06 When the son was in his youth, his dad owned a motorcycle dealership. One day they received a shipment of shiny new motorcycles and they lined them all up in the store. The boy did what every boy would like to do. He climbed up on the closest one. He even started it up. Then when he figured he had pushed his luck far enough, he jumped off. To his dismay, his dismount knocked the first bike down.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Then, like a string of dominoes, they all went down, one after another. Can you imagine the scratches, John, and the dents, and the... His dad heard the commotion and looked out from behind the partition where he was working. Slowly, smiling, he said, Well, son, we'd better fix one up and sell it so we can pay to fix the rest of them. I think my friend's response personifies parental patience. That's a good story. Elder Robert C. Oakes. He wrote a little book about some of his experiences
Starting point is 00:56:08 in the Air Force. He actually had to eject out of an F-111, if I remember right, broke part of his back. Wow, what a reaction that fast too. Don't you think you'd have to say, I got to go in the other room for a minute and punch something. I'll be back. I've noticed for me as I've worked on this, being mindful of how I feel inside, being mindful of, oh wow, I'm starting to feel frustrated, I'm starting to feel angry, I'm starting to feel... it helps me. If I'm mindful, I can stay on top of it. I can say, I've got to slip out before something happens, not after. Let me give you a hypothetical of a little league basketball game where an impatient father yells at the other coach.
Starting point is 00:56:56 Not the refs. The refs are usually just the little teenagers that are doing the best they can. But the other coach, I decided to... Well, it wasn't me, it was hypothetical, where this person decided to yell at the other coach and the other coach yelled back. And then this person in this hypothetical story finds out that this coach is in his stake. He is the high councilman over his ward. Oh, all right, that's a complete hypothetical, John.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Continue in patience, the Lord says. We have all heard testimonies that begin with an apology about a war basketball incident. War basketball was invented so that we would learn verse 13. Keep repenting. My parents were amazing people. My mother was the most responsible person. I was never late for any appointment or any workout. She was so punctual.
Starting point is 00:57:52 She felt that was important that you keep your word about things. She passed away too soon. My father was an example of patience to me. My dad was my influence for going into gymnastics, John Vidmar. He was born in Chuquicamara, Chile. My grandfather worked my influence for going into gymnastics, John Vidmar. He was born in Chuquicamara, Chile. My grandfather worked in the mining industry back in South America for an American mining firm. My dad ended up settling in Los Angeles, went to school in Cal Berkeley, got his engineering degree, was in the Navy during the war, met my mom at a USO dance
Starting point is 00:58:21 in New York. Wow, no kidding. My dad did gymnastics when he was a teenager, when he was in high school in Los Angeles. He used to also go down to Muscle Beach down by the Santa Monica Pier. Used to learn gymnastics down there. Used to wash dishes at a restaurant in downtown LA in the evenings. He'd have enough money to take the bus down to Santa Monica and learn gymnastics skills. I never saw my dad do gymnastics because when he was 27 my dad contracted polio. It left a lot of damage to his body. He lost the use of about 30 muscles in his body. My dad's left arm, the deltoid, didn't work. He couldn't
Starting point is 00:59:00 raise his left arm. His tricep and his right arm didn't work. He couldn't push with his right arm. His neck wasn't as strong as it could have been. Where it was really obvious was my dad's left leg. It was the size of a number two pencil. The skin wrapped around the bone. He had a little bit of a contraction of a quadricep. With the help of a brace, he was able to fling his leg forward and lock it into place. My dad walked with a really big limpus whole life. And I'm fully cognizant that so many people have struggled physically with other ailments much more severe than my dad. But this is the man that I grew up with. Never complained about what everybody else called a handicap, at least not in front of his kids.
Starting point is 00:59:35 When he was now moved back to Los Angeles working in downtown LA, I was about 10 years old. My father came home from work one day. I heard my mother gasp. She was getting dinner ready, she saw my dad come through the front door and I heard her say, John what happened? I jumped off the couch, looked up at my father, his glasses were broken, he had dried blood all over his face, and he said, ah I'll tell you what happened. I was walking across the street at 6th and Figueroa in downtown and my good leg got stuck in a pothole. I knew my bum leg, that's what he called it. I knew my bum leg wasn't going to support me. I knew I was going down. I just couldn't get my arms up fast enough. Hit the pavement face first
Starting point is 01:00:14 and I broke my glasses, bloodied up my face. Everybody stopped traffic, got out of their cars. They rushed to me. They picked me up. They dragged me across the street. Then I had a homeless man walk me to my office and I reached into my pocket to give him some money and he wouldn't take the money because he said when he was a kid he was a boy scout. That was his good deed for the day. And then my dad started to laugh. He said, I just got to be more careful next time. The unwritten family motto was that Vidmars don't quit. My dad had that motto, you just don't quit, keep moving forward. I remember a brother or sister would call home from school having a bad day or a
Starting point is 01:00:48 bad week. I could hear my dad in his warm and friendly mechanical engineered tone of voice say, uh-huh, yeah, I know, okay, now you're having a bad day. Well, things will always get better. You know what the family motto is, do the best you can, we'll talk to you later. We hated that. I told you about my coach, this incredible coach that I had, even at a young age, when I got a chance to learn under Mako Sakamoto, the workouts were hard and I wanted to complain, but I had to go home every night to that guy, to John Vidmar. And I'm just so grateful for him trying to be cheerful. Now at the end of his life, my dad suffered from post polio syndrome.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I believe that Boyd K. Packer struggled with that a bit too, because he was a polio victim earlier in his life. All of his good muscles started to shut down. My dad went from walking with a limp to walking with a cane, to walking with a walker, to sitting in a wheelchair, to finally moving around in an electric wheelchair. Then everything just rather rapidly started to shut down. My dad was going, we knew he was leaving this world and the family had gathered around him for those last few days. My father had been
Starting point is 01:01:51 unconscious for about a day and a half. My niece, Jenny, came in with two of her teenage sons. She walked to the foot of the bed with a very loud voice said, with a very loud voice said, hey grandpa it's Jenny I got Stephen and Charlie here do you have any advice for them? I was just about to say, Jenny dad can't hear you. But instead I saw my father turn his head he opened up his eyes just slightly looked at his two great-grandsons and said, always say your prayers and never give up. Those are the last words I heard my father speak. And in a way that kind of summed up his life. When he says always say your prayers, he says, you've got to have faith. Have faith that you can do everything that the Lord has in store for you to do. But at the same time, that's going to take some effort too. You can never give up.
Starting point is 01:02:44 do. But at the same time, that's going to take some effort too. You can never give up. I'm grateful for that. It's like a motto for me. So your prayers don't give up. It's simple, but it can be very effective if I really apply it in my life. Coming up in part two of this episode. We always lined up in front of them before and after workout, begin and end the workout. And he says, oh, by the way, guys, workouts next week, we're gonna start again on Sundays and add an additional workout on Sundays. I just, I didn't know what to do. I'm a deacon, I got the priesthood,
Starting point is 01:03:12 I'm 12 and a half years old. And I walked up to my coach and I said, I can't go on Sunday. Oh, this Sunday you can't? No, I can't go on any Sundays. Why? Well, because I'm commanded to keep the Sabbath day holy. I just don't want to do gymnastics on the Sabbath.

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