followHIM - From Crime to Christ • followHIM Favorites • September 16-22 • Come Follow Me

Episode Date: September 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, everyone. Welcome to Follow Him Favorites. This is where John and I share a single story to go with each week's lesson. John, we're in 3 Nephi 1-7. I was reading about the Gadianton robbers and how some of them converted and came back to live among the people. And I thought of a story I've heard you tell many times about a man who converted to the gospel. I was leaving a mall downtown Salt Lake City, and there was somebody standing by a table at Deseret Book at a book signing. So I went and bought his book. This guy's first name was Mario. He's part of organized crime, Hank.
Starting point is 00:00:36 When he gets home, his wife says, hey, I let a couple of young men in suits in the house. And he's like, what? Yeah, a couple of young men in suits. They were missionaries. He's like, they're not missionaries. They're federal agents. I told you never open the door for anybody. And they have this big fight. She's like, no, no, they were too young. I don't think they're federal agents. Long story short, he's watching for him the next day. And he says,
Starting point is 00:00:58 they round the corner. One of them looked like he was about 12 and the other was maybe 18. I thought, okay, here's what we're going to do. I'm going to open the door and see if they'll walk past me because a cop will never let you get behind him. And I didn't know that. He learned that in organized crime school. He opens the door and these two elders walk right past him. Okay. They're either really highly trained or they're missionaries. They sit down and start to talk. Mario eventually becomes convinced, okay, these guys are really missionaries. And he starts firing every tough question he's got at them until it gets so late.
Starting point is 00:01:36 One of the missionaries start looking at his watch. Finally, Mario's like, well, what's the matter? And the missionary says, well, we have these rules. We're supposed to be in at 930. It's 930 right now. Mario says, if you guys leave now, you're never coming back. The missionary's like, can we call our mission president? Yeah, there's the phone.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So he picks up the phone. And Hank, this is not a do-do-do. This is a re-re-re-re-re-re. This is an old phone. And he calls the mission president. Hey, president, we got this investigator. That's what we used to call him. He has all these questions and he wants us to stay, but it's 930.
Starting point is 00:02:12 What should we do? And the mission president says, well, okay, I'll tell you what. You can stay till 1030. Let me talk to your investigator. The mission president says, sir, would you follow these young men home tonight and make sure they get home safely? Because, you know, there's some shady characters out there. Mario's like, yeah, I'll take care of them. Mario keeps taking the lesson.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Eventually, he joins the church and the bishop says, Mario, you're in and we love you, but you need to be all the way in. And Mario's like, oh, they know I'm still doing illegal stuff. And he has this horrible decision to make. Do I leave the church or do I leave organized crime? Wow. How do you normally leave organized crime, Hank? In a box. Yeah. You don't. Yeah. Cement overshoes in the East River. No, they kill you. Yeah. What happens if you leave the church? They send home teachers. And so he's like, which one of these is worse? He plans, he schemes, he hid in a cabin. Even his wife didn't know that he had. And this is how determined he was. I have got to stay in this church. I found something wonderful. He calls the boss and says, I want to meet. I want out. I've joined this church. He just screamed at him on the phone, finally set up a meeting.
Starting point is 00:03:35 And he says, I walk into this abandoned warehouse. I think if anybody sets up a meeting with you in an abandoned warehouse, what does this tell you? Don't go. He said, my uncle was standing outside with a bat. My uncle hitting this bat into his hand. And I don't think it was, hey, when we're done, let's play baseball, right? He's hitting this bat into his hand.
Starting point is 00:03:58 And he pointed at this table, like, sit down. He goes in there. He sits down. He says that the crime boss stands up and screamed at him for half an hour. It's finally like, is it my turn? He's like, look, I've joined this church and I've become what we used to. Remember, this is an old story. I've become a Mormon. And the mafia boss sits back in his chair and he goes, Mormons, I know these people. Mario's first thought was, the Mormons are connected? Oh, wow. What a scam. I should have seen this coming.
Starting point is 00:04:33 This is brilliant. He's like, no, that's not it. He says, I know these people. Apparently what happened, they had a newly elected governor in this state and he was a member of the church. This crime boss brought him a briefcase with a million dollars in it and said, hey, you do your thing. Let us do our thing. Look the other way. Here's a million dollars tax-free. And this governor, Latter-day Saint governor said, take your money, get out of here. I'm going to take you down. And this crime boss was like, you're going to be one of them. If you do everything these people ask, I got nothing to worry about. And he walked out of the abandoned warehouse.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And Mario said, I think I'm going to take a bullet in the back. And he never did. Now you're the bishop. What calling do you give this guy, Mario? I don't know. Primary, right. He was called to teach the 10-year-olds. He said, when the bishop called me and oh my goodness, Hank, I've been in this position before. The bishop called me. I said, Bishop, I got to tell you something. I can't read. And I could just imagine the bishop, Bishop, you'll be fine. You'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Here's the manual. You're holding it upside down. Imagine how humbling. Mario walks into this room. He says there's three 10-year-old boys there, and he had to tell them, grown man, boys, I'm supposed to be your primary teacher, but boys, I can't read. I love the definition of the pure love of Christ. Love for Christ, love from Christ, love like Christ. Three 10-year-old boys said, sit down, we'll help you. They're reading the manual and they're sliding it back and forth and passing it back and forth. And Mario says, those boys taught me the gospel. And it wasn't what they read. It was how they treated him. If you get this book, the dedication says to my 10-year-old primary class.
Starting point is 00:06:48 I was speaking about this at a big event in Cincinnati once. Somebody raised their hand. I mean, we're in a room with 2,500 women. I just thought, take the comment. And I did. And this woman says, I'm sitting next to the person who wrote that book. She was the ghostwriter for the book. And I talked to her afterwards and she said, yeah, he passed away last year as a temple worker. I'm looking at 3 Nephi 5. They did forsake all their sins and their
Starting point is 00:07:12 abominations and their whoredoms, did serve God with all diligence day and night. And it talks about the Gadiant and robbers and Mara didn't do anything as bad as these guys. As many as what repented their sins and enter into covenant were set at liberty. It's such a cool story. So when I read this, I think there's hope for everybody. Wow. Set at liberty.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And that's not just a physical freedom. That's a spiritual. Yeah. Spiritual freedom that he found. Oh, absolutely. Changed his whole life and passed away firm in the faith as a temple worker. How cool is that? That's great. From crime to Christ. I love it. We hope you'll join us on our full podcast. It's called Follow Him. You can get it wherever you
Starting point is 00:07:56 get your podcasts. We're with Dr. Craig Manning this week. He's awesome. Come and see what he does with these chapters and then come join us next week. We'll do another follow him favorites.

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