Fore Play - 12-year-old Tiger Woods says to 2010 Tiger Woods, “What the hell happened, man!?”

Episode Date: August 2, 2018

We introduce a brand new segment this week... and it absolutely delivers. In Headlines, we've got Tiger playing potentially 7 of the next 9 weeks; the Ryder Cup fast approaching; and Phil and Tiger continuing their bromance. In From The Gallery, we rank — from one to four — the best number of people to have in a group and also discuss how sports betting will change fans at golf tournaments. It's a BIG stretch of golf coming up. Let's do this!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Kind of dire times for the Foreplay brand right now. We're in, not in a studio. Everything's booked. The company, you know, it's struggling to accept the fact that we're doing two shows a week now. Yeah. As everyone knows, we're looking at a new office, so hopefully we'll have many more studios. But at this point in time, we are doing it from Eric and Ardini's office. We're just sweating our dicks off sitting in Ms. Nardini's office.

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Housekeeping is a big one. I call it that on the radio show in the morning when I go through with the cousins, but then there's really nothing to go through. Right. That's just, they're just alive. It's just like we're back. Kind of the whole gist. Merch, we got putter head covers.

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Yeah. I'd be the number one question I've ever gotten is, is your putter head cover magnetic or velcroed? And luckily, we have the right answer. It's a huge. huge plus that we have in magnetic. I mean, I have a Scotty Cameron head cover, and it's Velcro, and it's the worst thing I've ever had to deal with. Every time I have to do it, I just,

not only am I mad from three putting a hole after I just skull-fucked a ball across the fairway, I am now trying to get this putter cover on, and it's wet, and it's making this noise, and it rubs against your fingernails. Magnetic is so clean. You can hear it pop when it connects. Velcro might be the worst invention of all time.

Like, what is Velcro? I mean, it's for, Velcro is for when you can't tie your shoes. Like, it's necessary when you're incapable of tying your shoes. Well, as a small child, at a certain point, you graduate to tie in your shoes. Or when you're Leonardo DiCaprio and you're throwing Zaz across the office and they're sticking to the, uh, you ever see that movie? Nope. Wow. What are you talking?

Oh, Wolf of Wall Street? Yeah. Gotcha. Yep. You've never seen Wolfel Wall Street? No. I'm just not a movie guy. Strange fella.

What does that mean I'm not a movie guy? I don't like sitting down and watching movies. That's what that means. So you wearing, and by the way, just an update, it's the second show of the week. Trent is still wearing the same outfit he was wearing on Tuesday. It's the same outfit different clothes. No one would know that because you're wearing the same outfit. And you're not a movie guy.

We don't have to really get into it. No, I'm not a movie guy. And I just, I don't see all these movies that people talk about. And then I get caught in situations like this where they're like, oh, have you seen this part where he apparently throw midgets against the wall? and I have to be like, no. So I'm not, I wouldn't like, I don't see a ton of movies, but I would never say I'm not a movie guy.

Movies are awesome. That's not what I'm saying. I always enjoy myself when I see a movie, but I just don't like, I don't know why I don't like sitting down for two and a half hours and just being like, all right, this is what I'm going to watch. I definitely don't go to the theater because if I go to the theater, I can't check my phone and I get anxiety about it. So we also have in the store a Saturdays for the Boys,

putter head cover that just went up. Also fire. Another big question that we get is, where's the mallet head covers? They're coming. They're work in progress. We just blew it. We didn't even think about it. The mallet situation.

Yeah. So we got to go through the design, then order them. It's only going to be a couple weeks, actually, not that long. I got to get myself a mallet. Well, Tiger's got one. I know. We have to. It's crazy.

We don't have them. It's crazy. I haven't been putting with a mallet. It is wild. It's really good point. I mean, think about that. So go to store. barstoolsports.com.

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You know, he took a lot of heat. He was wrong. All of that. It was the good, good situation. Now there's one thing that I said wrong. I must have gotten 150 messages from people about this. Yeah. Was that I said another option your buddy has.

is that he putted his lag putt right and put it up to like a foot and a half and he could have just finished out because you can keep your turn it turns out you can do that in stroke play but not in match play in match play it goes apparently rule 10 dash 1c we have the rules in hand the answer is provided for match play there is no penalty in either form of player if a player plays out of turn however when a player has played out of turn and match play the opponent may immediately recall the stroke played and require the player to play in the correct order. So if you went up and finished out like a three or four footer and kept your turn, the opposing player, if they were away, could in theory be like, you got to redo that. And then they make theirs and then they make you hit your butt. Again, you want to talk about gamesmanship?

That's gamesmanship. What Andrew, my opponent, should have done, was let Kyle tap in and then been like, oh, yeah, you were thinking about giving me a, a good good. Why don't you fucking re-ball that thing? And let's go, buddy, because you obviously were too afraid to put to begin with.

That's why he gave me the good good. Now you got to hit it. Well, at that point, you guys aren't playing golfing where you're just fighting. You're just fighting. There's a brawl in the course. The police have been called, and you guys are getting kicked off.

I'll tell you what, man. That podcast on Tuesday really made some ways. I mean, my friends, they gave it to me. Ryan Whitney gave it to me. The entire fan base of foreplay and Barstle gave it to me. I mean, everyone. Dave's that.

in the car sitting next to me. He's like, heard you lost an argument. It's just like everyone. Dave gave it to you. It's just like he's like, he's like, he's coming back. He's coming back from vacation. He just sees Twitter, you know. It's like, I leave you alone for one month and you go and tarnish everything. I think that was it, man. You get out of the, you get out of his, like, aura and his, his little, whatever energetic field that comes around him of just success, because obviously anyone that's usually around him is getting lucky in some sort of way, right? I mean, you look at like, totally. He's got his deal with the devil. Right. he takes a month off

I mean the first day he stepped on Antucket John Tavares left and then ever since then I've just had a bad month like a real bad month I've just lost everything When I go on trips with Dave Like everything goes great for me Yeah Well I'm just like you're just really close to him

For like five days straight It's just things just go well It's like chicks that never look at me Or like look at me Dave's just like he's just a beacon of good luck Because he's sold his soul to the fucking devil It's crazy man I mean, when we go to Vegas, Tommy Smokes is walking around making like $15,000 on bets and stuff.

It's like, it's nuts. It's like, and then Tommy Smokes comes here and he's sitting at the intern table flipping coins and shit. We need Dave back. Gaz's, his entire existence is proof that Dave's luck works. He's just always around and he's still doing fine. This is like the fifth time we've used this analogy, but it is the Tiger Woods commercial with Dave. When Tiger walks on to the range, everybody stinks.

He walks on, everybody's sick. He walks away. everybody's a train wreck again. Correct. That's pretty much the day of effect. So Frankie was wrong. I was wrong in just a slight part of the whole deal, which was that in match play, you cannot go unless you are away.

Basically, you can't just choose to keep your turn. There is a case where you can go if you're not away, which is that your partner must be away. And if your partner is the furthest away, he can defer to you. So if you've got like a four-footer for par and your partner has a 25-footer for par, your partner can be like, yeah, but I want Riggs to go first. Riggs can bury, I can bury mine for PAR and move on. Anyways, this isn't a rules podcast. So we had a bunch of people tweeting at me.

And a quick shout to those that reached out to me saying that they 100% agree with me, you're even more wrong than I am. Yes. Because not only did you, I mean, mine was genuine. I really didn't know. You can't listen to that podcast and then go on to Twitter and message me and be like, you got them, Frank, because God damn did I not. I do thank them.

I thank them. I just didn't get them. We also, we have announced, we got a new segment. We got a new segment coming. It's going to come in at the end of the show. It's based around the dream for some idea. We're going to get into it more,

but a new segment coming at the end, I think people are going to like it. Segments are sweet. Segments are fucking awesome. That's how you keep people moving. You keep them excited. We've got a new segment coming, so get jacked up for that.

Congratulations to you guys for getting a new segment that's going to be injected right into your ears. Headlines, Tiger Woods. So Tiger's playing, it appears very likely that Tiger will play seven of the next nine weeks. That's bad. I mean, that's very exciting. It's hard to even imagine that after, you know, what we went through the last couple of years. Yeah.

And we talked about the stat, the fact that he's won 18 times since 2008 is the second most on the PGA tour until, which was the first most until, a couple days ago. It's shocking because he's been, like, dead on a fucking hospital bed for half of that time. But he's playing very likely seven in the next nine. So he committed to the first two FedEx Cup events. That means he's going to play Firestone this week, the PGA Championship next week. He'll take a week off, which I believe is the Wyndham. And then he'll go two FedEx Cup events.

That's four. Probably the last two FedEx Cup events as well, which would be the BMW at Aronimic. and the Tour Championship, which gets him to six, he'll definitely be on the Ryder Cup team the week after the Tour Championship. How about Jim Furek still just playing out that story line that he's like, well, I don't know.

It's so dumb that they have to do that. He has to do that. Yeah. Jim, buddy, you're not fucking saying no to Tiger Woods. Tiger Woods does it come, and he's playing seven out of nine weeks. He's almost winning major championships. He's got the fusion stripe, the fusion surgery, all that. And he's going to come text Jim Fierick,

be like, I'm on the team. I want to play and Jim's going to be like, no, I'm going with fucking sneds. Like, what are you talking about now? Jimmy is, Tiger may not even hear from Jim. He's just going to show up. Yeah. And no one is going to do anything about it.

That's just how it works. You would be, Jim Fierick would be kicked out of the Ryder Cup. He'd be kicked out of America. He'd be shamed like he was in Game of Thrones. They'd be walking him down the streets and he'd have to be naked and they'd just be screaming shame at him if he didn't put them on them. The two organizations that run the event,

the European tour and the PGA of America would just, they would just kick, he just, Jim Fear just wouldn't be a part of it. Just like the two weeks before, after he made those captains picks, he would just be out and they'd get a new captain in. And then maybe like,

he gets to just repick and then they would just pick Tiger Woods. And then you never heard from Jim again. He was just one of those like seamen that were just on the, just at one of those lighthouses. He never played golf again. He never saw him. He was never existed. No joke.

I was watching it. So this is what would happen to Jim Fury. I was watching, and this is going to get weird for a second. I love that. I was watching a Netflix documentary about the space race. Okay. I have my doubts about that, by the way, but you can go on. Well, it was actually, Frank, I know you're a big moon landing guy.

Yeah. So it was actually, it was, and I'm not, I'm not a conspiracy guy. Right. I've said that many times. Not a conspiracy guy. For whatever reason, I just, I've been watching a bunch of other type shit, like the office I've been watching the West Wing I watch and then Tiger Woods highlights I watch.

So I wanted something different. So I got into like, I was going through like space documentaries and shit and this one was a conspiracy about the moon landing. And to kind of set the whole stage, they talked about the Russians and how there's a big belief among a lot of different people that the Russians, even

before they had their, before they put the first person in space successfully, that they blew it and like killed a couple people trying to put people in space, but they never told anybody because the Russians are like they only release good news. That's like the most obvious thing I've ever heard in my life. So,

of course they killed people. Then they were going back through once the fall of the Soviet Union happened. They uncovered a bunch of the documents and stuff. And the Soviets were literally, they just erased people from pictures. Like, there'd be a class of like six astronauts, right? Like,

they'd go all the way through the whole thing. And there'd just be five of them. Just a little white out, a little white paint. Let's put that on there. To the point where one guy's hand would still on the, like the far shoulder of the boys and the guy's just gone.

They just erased them. And it turns out that they, those guys like, that one guy got into like an altercation on the subway when they were in Moscow or something. So they like booted them and exiled them from the program. And they just delete them from all the pictures. And when they

uncovered the documents, no joke, the guy, he was just in the pictures. The pictures were normal. The guy was just there the whole time. But the ones that had been released over the last 40 years. Yeah. Not there. That's what happened to Jim Furik. Oh, I love it. Just out.

It's like, where's Jim? It's like, well, you can see by this picture here. He just wasn't present. Who's this Jim Furik you're talking about? We don't know who that guy is. Could you imagine? Could you imagine Jim Furik doesn't take Tiger Woods? And then not only do they remove him as captain, but if you go back, look at like the

2016 Rider Cup, the 2014 right? Jim Furik's picture, he's just not in the pictures. When they show the highlights, it's just like an invisible person hitting a golf ball. It's like no one in history has ever shot a 58. It just didn't happen. What's that movie, Hollow where the guy becomes invisible? Trent's not a movie guy.

Oh, well, I've never heard of it, but Trent's definitely never heard it. But it's amazing because there's like parts where he's like, he's like carrying stuff around the house and stuff. That would be Jim Burek hitting the butts. Like there's the invisible guy. Jim,

don't do this to yourself. Don't do this to your family. And that's not a threat. He's to pick a guy. No. Just pick Tiger. Yeah, he has to pick Tiger.

So everybody knows he's picking Tiger, which would be seven out of nine weeks. Tiger even said, God, that's a lot of golf. It's a ton of golf. What are you expecting going into the seven to nine weeks? Are you expecting, what are you hopeful for? So think about this, too. When you play, well, we'll get to that.

When you're playing seven out of nine weeks, that means four, right, if he makes the cut every time, he's playing tournament golf significantly more days than he's not. Like, he's playing tournament golf four out of seven days in a calendar week. Right. So, like, every week. week he's just playing tournament golf way more like a whole day more than he's not playing tournament golf like every day day yeah there's a couple days here and there and even when he's not i mean we'll get to that he's like grinding and practice rounds and shit so like we still get tiger content no matter what day of the week it is for the next two months so he's so prepared for this stretch he knows he's playing a ton of golf that he took a

week week and a half off following uh the british open he toured switzerland he was in switzerland with the family, which we kind of knew this a little bit. We saw the picture of him where he looked like he was going fucking parachuting. Yeah. Remember that picture? Yep. There's some random guys stopped him in some small town in like Switzerland and took a picture with Tiger.

I'm talking. Tiger had like, he had like parachute pants on. It's the same thing we talked about a couple weeks ago where it's like let this guy out of the like non-tournament mode and he's going to dress however he wants. He's going to put parachute pants on and look like a fool. Yeah. He dresses like, yeah, he dresses like the kid from Big Daddy. Yes.

That's just what he does. He's like a child on the loose. He's a child on the loose with a wardrobe, and he's worth a billion dollars. So he can just wear wild stuff. And he does. But anyways, he said, quote, we just toured Switzerland had a great time hiking, being up in the mountains, and just enjoying one another's company. Oh, that's nice. Sounds like a lovely time.

A little R&R. So it had to be the girlfriend and the kittens, the two kids. Yeah. It would be my guess. I would imagine. Yeah, because I saw him after his round at the open, she was definitely there with the kids. So it was probably all four of them. Um, so then he said, he's like, yep, I took some vacation.

He showed up at Firestone midway through the last day of practice day, which again, he's won there eight times. It's not like he has to study the golf course, but he hasn't been there. I don't think he's been there since like 2013 or something like that, 2014. Yeah. His last time he played there because of all the injuries and, and not being top 50 in the world and all that. So, um, so anyways, he took it.

He went as late as he could. Now he's ready to rock. Big news out of the practice. today was that he played with Phil and Tiger Tracker reported that the two of them were just grinding over putts. I'm woke on these practice rounds

of their playing. I think it's a promo tour for their match. I think it's building up the hype. Definitely. Yeah. Definitely. However, I also don't think that the two of them aren't playing for money. Phil always plays for money. They're definitely playing for money. There's no doubt about that.

Like they said, Tiger Tracker said he's grinding over puts. I just think that they're playing these together and they're like, We got to build this up. People see us playing together. Like, God, I hope that match happens. My reaction, I laughed out loud when I saw the Tiger Tracker tweet because just when you read it through and you're just growing through Twitter, I didn't even like, you know, I'm not even processing that he's out there for a practice round. I'm just like going about my day, totally forgetting about Tiger for like an hour of my life. And I see not sure if Tiger and Phil have a game going, but they are certainly grinding over putts, birdie at the second for both.

I'm just like picturing a gallery following these people and they're just nailing. Puts for Birdie and just daggering each other as they walk off. Like, this is a fucking practice rack. Yeah. I mean, this is the difference. There's a press pool following and reporting on the two guys playing golf on a win. Yeah. And they were on the range.

You see that video of their swings all synchronized up? That's beautiful. I mean, promo tour. How pumped was that camera guy? Because think about how many he saw where they weren't synced up. Right. He's just in there like, all right, all right. I was a little off on that one.

Yeah, he's like, God, that one was fucking half a second off. And then he finally got the picture. He's like those guys. when you watch planet earth and they sit out there and they try to capture the snow leopard for like nine months straight and then finally pops up like imagine with those fucking yes yes yes uh what's the uh what's the other one the shark when the shark breaches the surface oh those ones are the best and that guy they get the slow mo cam on it so that guy was there for two and a half years actually yeah that guy is just jumped in a second half that guy is drinking champagne

right now he's like i am the social media king i am the man oh it's great about zach johnson playing in that group and no one cares. Good for my guy, ZJ. I'm happy for him. You're still, you're clinging to ZJ? Well, I think we swung too far in the other direction. When he said they lost control the course at Shinnock, we beat him up like a punching bag, and I feel like I need to rein you guys in a little bit.

He's a good guy. He's a two-time major champion. He's won, what, 12 times on tour. He's good. And he gets to play with Tiger and Phil, so he's got to be something. There's something to him. Yeah, I mean, I don't discount that he's a nice guy, whatever. He does have an incredible,

incredibly interesting and powerful resume with the St. Andrews, British Open, and obviously the Masters at Augusta. But he's just a dork. I mean, he's a dork. Yeah, he's vanilla ice cream. Yeah, and then when vanilla ice cream goes and just...

It's sour. More dramatically than anything I've ever seen. We just left his ice cream out on the fucking counter. Says that they lost the golf course. Like, he just lost his grandmother. We're not going to, you know, we're just not huge days. I'm just saying that sour ice cream has, you know,

a clare jug and a master's. A master's. That's fine. And a green jacket. It's like going to 16 handles and dumping in some like gummy bears and stuff. You know, it's good at first. And then it goes down to the bottom.

It's all soggy. I don't even know what you're referencing. I don't even know either. I just know that he's referencing something smart. Oh. Yeah. That's probably why I don't get it. Anything else on ZJ?

I don't know. Look, beforehand I didn't hate ZJ. But I don't even hate ZJ. I just wouldn't go as far as to like defend him or be excited. Well, I'm put in a precarious. We're from the same town. You know what's hard for me right now?

A tiger being back makes me hate everyone. You guys find that you're doing that? Like, I'm not rooting for anyone's success at all, unless it was like kids the other day. But I'm not rooting for the success of anyone aside from Tiger. I would argue with that that that's where a lot of the JT hatred comes from. Because we're like, in any normal tournament where Tiger's not involved or a tour where he's not involved,

we'd be like, all right, these guys are all cool. Anybody, I think that makes us, gives us a little bit more of an edge for everybody else. I mean, J.T. specifically, he's just a loser to a matter, whatever he played in. Okay. You also, you realize when Tiger is in the mix, how minuscule and insignificant almost everybody else's story is. Yeah. With the exception of a couple guys, like Phil, Speeth, Rory, because they're amounting, like a real number of majors and entering, like, the all-time race. ranks to some degree.

Whereas like, you know, when Jimmy Walker won is PGA, right? It's like that is in the history of golf, that is a zero. Like no one will ever, ever talk or remember or care about that. Yeah. Outside of like Jimmy Walker and his small bubble of buddies.

Whereas like when Tiger Woods is doing something, there's a potential that that will go on the wall of the greatest career in the history of golf. Or like that that will be used. as evidence whenever you're making an argument that this is the greatest person that's ever played the game. Yeah. And even when he loses, I feel like I'll look at, they'll be like, oh, remember when Molinari won

the British Open? I'll be like, yeah, that's the one Tiger didn't win. Totally. That's the one where Tiger almost like completed the comeback of being back and all that. It's just, you just realize that these other guys and you realize how much you had to work to really build a lot of the people up. Not the megastars. The megastars are there.

Like the guys that I kind of list there already Even DJ is kind of a mega star Number one in the world All that he's got like the intrigue with the Polina J.T. Speath, Rory, these guys They are mega stars But even when you get into like the number 15, 20 guy in the world It's like those stories are just

You're talking, you're telling me Tiger Woods And then I'm like this guy's Somehow on the same level I'm supposed to give a fuck No, I don't give a fuck No What the hell would I give a fuck? Not the same level It's just I can't do it with this other guy

Like it's like Tiger is such a bright light that I can't see anything else. Yeah. It's too fucking bright. I want to. I'm trying to, right? But the lights are distracting. Right.

It is literally distracting. We're bugs and moths, just looking at the fucking light. Everything he does is, it's just distracting. I can't fucking help it. And clearly, everyone else feels that way too, because if you tweet about that, you get more fucking action than anything else in the world. No doubt. There's nothing better. There's nothing better than easy Twitter numbers during Tiger.

I saw that, and I also saw you went out and said that Tiger Woods will win one of the next five majors. I believe you tweeted that this weekend. I was drunk on a boat. Yep. On Saturday. And I was just having a reflective moment. And I was just sitting there trying to think because I got my whole crew, almost the whole

crew, huge golf guys. So everybody wants to talk about Tiger. This was like less than a week after the Carnusie situation. So we had had a deep talk the night before. We had a couple chats on the Uber on the way to the boat. We're on a boat on Lake Michigan, overlook in Chicago. I was kind of off to the side, having a beer, pull my phone out, kind of checking Twitter for a minute.

And I just started thinking and I was like, Pebble Beach next year. I was like, Bell Reeve, which, you know, he's coming off playing well, but I don't know if Bell Reeves suits him. But Augusta, we've got Pebble Beach. We've got, I can never, oh, we've got Royal Port Rush, which I feel like nobody,

they haven't played there since like the 50s. Yeah. So he's got as good a chance as anybody there. And Bethpage, where he's won and almost won the second time. So he's got a list of, the next five majors. Three of them, he's won major championships at. One of them, he won by, he's won Augusta by 12.

He's won at Pebble by 15 before. And then even in 2010 at Pebble, when he was coming off the worst six months in the history of planet Earth, maybe, he almost fucking won at Pebble that. Listen, I don't think it's a stretch. I mean, how can you, after seeing what he did at Carnusti? Man, you said, like, when you said Beth Page, I got a tingle all at my body knowing that is coming. awesome to like my hometown

that's gonna be so awesome god imagine he walks into birelli's imagine he goes off the beaten path because like we're a couple miles away imagine he just fucking stumbles in you gotta be tweeting out of like the whole week before dude i mean people that have played people that have played in beth page tournaments

have come like christopher mcdonal shooter mcgavan the actor just like he was playing in a some sort of tournament there he came in which is huge burrellys when birelli's gets some love the islanders guys are in there all the time Yeah, but I want Tiger. I want Tiger.

That'd be something. I bet you do want Tiger. Do you have anywhere nearby for him to park his yacht? Shit. You think he's taking the yacht? It might be too inland. It's way too inland. I mean, he'd have to go to, like, Freeport.

What would the drive be? From, like, the nearest. I don't know if, like, yachtable area. Yottable area. Nice. It's a place in Freeport has boats, but, like, they're little tiny, like, normal people boats. I've never seen the fucking yacht.

The wake from Tiger's yachts. doesn't matter. He'll destroy the heart. He'll park the yacht and he'll take a helicopter wherever he needs to go. True. He doesn't chopper into Bethpage though. Not yet. Imagine that entrance.

He came into Bedpage and a chopper. It'd be incredible. When I was catting at the garden. Like a black and red chopper and then he gets out wearing black and red. When I was catting at the Garden City Men's Club, there was tales about James Dolan choppering and he had his own helipad at the golf course. And one day I thought I like saw, like I got out of my car. car. I got a little late and I thought I

saw and like heard it in the distance but I never really, I was like, I was a little too young to ask questions but apparently he would just land it like right by the putting green and it was like a fucking like awesome thing. It was like behind trees. You couldn't see it. I believe Bloomberg does that at Deepdale. It's just such a power move. Choppers to the golf.

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Okay, from the gallery. Now, this first one from Stephen is actually a really good one. I had to go deep into the, from the gallery. Deep. I'm talking. So what happens, I go to the four blight email, and I type in from the gallery. and I've read all the ones since like January.

So I was going back to some that people were sending us in like, I don't know, Thanksgiving. Wow. Of last year. So some of these people that are going to be here in their name and their question pop up are going to their heads going to pop up from the desk. What the fuck did he just say? Stephen, he says rank from worst to best, playing by yourself, playing as a two-sum, playing as a threesome, playing as a four-sum. I have a newfound favorite. Did you call my name?

Yep. I have a newfound least favorite that's just that I just started developing hate for this year. Actually, not just this year, but recently. It's the playing as a threesome. And the reasoning is, I guess it's pretty obvious. I see you guys shaking your head. I mean, the reasoning is that you just can't do anything fun, right? You can't play in a match, which I always fuck up, I guess,

because I just don't know how to play match play. And what my problem is on Long Island, on Long Island, when you... I say on Long Island, too. Yeah, that's the right way. If you say in Long Island, you are like a psychopath. You can't do that. You're not inside the island. Also, I had the big debate over what you call the train.

That was crazy. We're not going to get that because I think I made... You said the leer. What I said was I understand that it's people frowned upon saying leer, but from an outsider's perspective, it's by far the most sensible one. L-I-R-R, man. It's easy to say. The L-I-R-R is hard to say, but it's just what we do.

And you know why it's hard to say, why we say it? Because taking it is hard, and it's a hardship-type thing to take the Long Island Railroad. You don't want it to sound efficient. You don't want it to. The Lear sounds like... It sounds like a Lear jet. Yeah, it sounds like you're just... Sounds like you're being lifted out of your bed and, like, brought to work in Manhattan.

Sounds very streamlined. Right. Lear sounds like it's a train on water. So it has a clunky name because it's a clunky train. Right. The L-I-R-Rs should sound like it hurts to say it. The Lear sounds like one of those trains that they have in Japan that float. That's exactly what?

Where they go like 290 miles an hour. They just arrive immediately. In the new Incredibles movie, which you haven't seen Trent, I'm sure you haven't because you're not a movie guy, but they have like this train that like goes really fast and the Incredibles save it. Anyway, ever since, you know, I started taking a cart when I'm golfing, you know, you start to learn how to drive and shit and you get to take a cart. I used to love that shit.

And I'm starting to hate showing up with three sons. And it happens a lot with my group of friends. friends like you just can't get that fourth guy I played just recently I love getting in a cart and I love driving by myself it's like the funest thing to do for some reason like driving a golf car it's like just fun it's golf and then it's also like go cards right there's nothing I hate more than when a golf course which I guess is like only what they do in Long Island because I always say when you try and rent a golf car it's like you're giving your life away here you have to like sign over your waivers it's like buying out right what they do recently that I've been seeing is that they're starting to put

single just like in my golf cart and it is honestly i have horrifying uh anxiety when i go up to a golf course and i know that i'm going to be the third knowing that i now have to share a golf cart and share my experience of the day with just a stranger yep that's why threesome's are the worst that's why they are by far and away the worst so we have three people that we have two friends that i know and we're playing and they're in the other cart and then i'm here and instead of them instead of the golf course just being like oh yeah take another card out there it's not like we're the fucking schenicock and we don't carominy how much more damage is four more wheels on the fairway and around the greens and shit gonna really do when there's fucking golf cars everywhere but they stick this old smelly man

sitting next to me and he wants to know everything about me and almost suddenly starts giving me tips i mean this happened to me recently i just was so angry i was so angry i was playing with my dad and my girlfriend's father and then i'm playing with mike like mike's just like in my car his name's my and i have to just like the most do you have to act like you like go look for his ball and he sucked. Like you don't give a fuck about Mike. And he was hitting the balls into the fescue and I had to be like, I'll help you out because you're my cart guy.

And he would say little jokes. Like he'd hit a bad shot. He hit a bad shot once. I hit another bad shot. He goes, that's cart golf. I'm like, you shut your fucking mouth, Mike. We're not playing cart golf. It shouldn't be golf golf golf.

It shouldn't be garts. Ah. So, yeah. I mean, basically in that situation, that's one of those where Mike's like, yeah. So, like, I live over. You're like, dude, I don't care. No part of me cares where you live. Plus, I paid for a full car.

If you want to be cheap about it, like, are you giving me half my money back? Like, where is Mike showing out of this money? I would be furious if they may be paid for the full car. That's my least favorite. And then my favorite, I mean, has to be by far. It's a foursome. Yep. Yeah, foursome.

Forsome, no-brainer the best. Threesome, no-brainer the worst. Yep. I get a little tied up between twosome and playing by myself. I really. There are times where I really enjoy playing by myself, but only if I'm actually by myself. That's 100% right.

Because if you're not, if you just get paired up with another group, then it's like, then it's the worst. Then you're Mike. Then you're fucking Mike. No one wants to be like Mike. And nobody,

contrary to popular culture, you don't want to be like Mike in that situation. You're Mike. Oh, man, you don't want to be Mike. But to your point, when you actually get to play by yourself, that could,

that could nip the heels of number one. There is correct. There is almost nothing. better than a twilight round in a cart you buzz up it's like especially in summertime where you can kind of play to like 915 or something when you buzz up to the tea at like 630 in a cart by yourself it's a freeing and there's no one for like eight holes and you're like I'm going to play this golf course in two hours and 10 minutes and I'm going to play it by myself and I'm going to play lightning fast this is going to be awesome it's like the only downside is you don't want to get a hole in one

as we've talked about before but everything else is better when you're by yourself. Yep. Foresom is obviously the best. You got three buddies. You know, there's no anxiety going into it because there's no one that, there's no Mike that's going to jump in your group. There's no awkwardness of like, I hope they don't pair us with this or that or cart.

Do I have to ride in a car? You know like a week in advance who you're riding in the car with, what the match is, what your team is. There's chirping going on. The bets are on the table. Yep. It's the best. Forcum's the best.

Everybody knows that. That's single, um, Twilight round that you're talking about is a huge hack for any public, you know, a public golfer that doesn't have access to a grass driving range. You go out there, you drop like 15 balls or whatever, 10 balls, and you, like, hit just multiple shots onto the green. You have no one around you to yell at you. You just practice. I used to do that all the time at the golf course by my house.

Me and my dad would go out there and we'd be like, we're going to wait for just everyone to just be done, and we're just going to wait back here, and we're just going to keep playing this whole over and over again. Basically, it's a free grass driving range. It's the best. I completely agree. I think that's a great play. one thing I would advise if doing that

is instead of aiming at the middle of the green go like 20 yards shorter so that all your balls land on the fringe and you don't bang up the green but that means yeah it's a Frankie Borelli move so I get it. Borelli's are aiming right for the flag What do you think I was doing man

I mean I'm shooting darts out there I think you're aiming right at the flag Of course 100% But like I said with the other thing How many times am I hitting the green Because I just can't hit those fucking shots Right we're giving you too much credit Right you're acting yeah

No I get it you're right But you know For all the people out there Don't do that Tyler asked, how will live sports betting change golf and golf fans at events? His main point was, look, the NBA has become the first one to embrace. They've partnered with a sports betting company has partnered with the league. They're essentially, everybody's talking mostly about how much real-time betting is going to change.

You know, how you're going to be able to bet on like free throws and all that. And they're like if you can move that to golf or translate that to golf and you're sitting there with your phone out and everybody's sitting there with their phone out on the green on like let's say the 15th hole at the Honda Classic or something. And Kevin Kisner has like an eight footer for par. Is everyone is half the crowd going to start just booing him and screaming for him? Like what is that going to be like? And I think that's a really good question because I mean, yeah, because basically. Basically right now, I mean, you can't really bet like that. Right.

This is going to, yeah, this is going to, legal betting is going to open up way more opportunities for things just like this. And I think they are. I think you're going to have people rooting against people in real time. And I don't think there's many golfers who are going to like that very much. I think golf is going to be one of the most noticeable differences. People are going to be rooting against players. And they very rarely root against players. Right.

Unless they play like daily fantasy, but not like a crowd of people at a golf tournament, aren't necessarily the demographic for daily fantasy, but everybody gambles. Right. And even like you said, in daily fantasy, there can only be a very small percentage of the people in the crowd that would really be rooting against a significant player or a certain player or whatever. Whereas when you're actually doing like live betting, there's like a one side and another side.

So you're talking half the crowd is against that person. Or not half the crowd, half the crowd that's betting. Right. Which is going to be. Which is a significant number because tons of people bet. Right. Uh, it could be, it could get dice. I love the, all the prop bets you can do too probably where it's like, uh, Tiger Woods will not three putt the entire round.

And just like little bets within the round also like it just makes things so much more interesting when you're watching it. Um, someone could be just be out of a tournament, but you're still watching him. My funnest betting will be just like betting on KJ Choi to just not three putt like you just fucking locking you. Yeah, but the problem with that though is that you have to. pick a guy who's going to be on TV. Oh, true. You know what I mean? Yeah,

take KJ, Choir like he's just, nobody's gonna, they don't show KJJJ. I was thinking more of like you're at the tournament, you get to follow them. No,

that, yes, that will be fantastic. And that's, that'll be where the fandom changes the most. Because people always scream at guys on their TV and shit.

Like, you're way more willing to be openly against somebody when you're just at home with the boys or you're with your, yeah, just you're never going to have us all the time when our freaking enemies

walk in this, this, I mean, because we meet a lot of people from different teams and shit. And it's been happening to me a lot. All these Red Sox keep walking in. And I'm like shaking hands and shit. I'm like,

I was just like cursing out your entire family last night. Yeah. But once I see you, I'm like, hey man, what's up? Exactly. But if you had a few drinks in you,

you might be acting a little different. For sure. Or you have some money on the line. There you go. Or both. Everything. And then it's real. Real hairy.

Yeah. Trentani and I had that experience actually with Bryce and Duchampo, where we saw him. Yeah. We had been chirping him last year. when he was and this was weird chirping him for a different reason we didn't we didn't think he was kind of necessarily a dickhead at this point we just thought it was annoying that he was this darling and all he had done was miscuts at this point he had one of the tournaments nothing like that

and we had actually had a couple podcasts in row we were pretty we were kind of pretty aggressive we were we were mean about him talking about him and then we went to an event we were on the driving range and we saw him walk by and we just were like we're stunned amazed and Trent was like what would you have done if he would have said something? I was like, I would have caved immediately. Oh, yeah. And he's a bigger guy than you realize.

He's taller. You may have said things like. He's built almost like a line man. Huge fan. Totally. Like that could have come out of my mouth. Yeah. If he would have looked to me directly,

like I would have been like big fan. If he comes over like takes his hat off, shakes your hand, what are you going to say? What am I going to be in your asshole? Yeah. In the dream you're like, fuck you, man.

I hate you. But in real life, you're like, I love you. Correct. So again, I think betting will change all that, which is good.

Frankie, one of our listeners' name is Frankie. Hey-oh. He says, if playing Augusta meant you could only play the par three course and then couldn't step foot on the premises ever again after that,

would it be worth it? Would you do it? Absolutely not. Okay, I thought you were going to say absolutely and that would have been the wrong answer. I could not care less about the par three course. And it's one of those... When you compare it to going to Augusta, I mean,

the whole experience of Augusta I love. I love the part three course. Yeah. I'm watching it. I didn't get to experience the par three course when we went to Augusta because it got rained out. That's right. You guys went the next year.

Then we went and we were right next to Tony Fiena when he broke his ankle. I mean, there's history that's been, you know, there's a lot of historical like clips of fun things happening at the par three course. And, you know, it's a nice little cute golf course on the side of Augusta. But if I'm just never, especially with our access and we're able to just go to the masters and it's like actually a thing that we can do. If you tell me that playing a part three course that. No one, I mean, is they going to move the needle if I tell people I play the part three. That's the problem. The biggest issue is if people are like, have you been to Augusta?

And you're like, yes. And they're like, what was it like? You're like, I only got to experience the part three. They're going to be like, you're a crazy person. And I don't want to talk to you anymore. I kind of want to try to play devil's advocate here. But no, I just wouldn't even, I would say no. Like, there's just holes on the part three course that don't do it for me that, I mean,

you just never get to go to Augusta again. I mean, if you're a guy that you know you can never, ever, ever, step foot on Augusta. You obviously take the, you take it. It all depends on who you are, I think. It also, if you do this, it erases just the hope that you have, even if it's small, that one day you will play Augusta. It's like, it's gone.

Just having that, that's like a North Star that you chase all the time. Yeah. I disagree with that. If what you said, Frankie, if you had one chance to go and this was your only opportunity, you would say yes to the par three. Well, no, this is the only, he's saying if you know you're never going to get to go to Augusta anyways. I still, oh, okay, yeah, yeah.

I'm a guy just like a regular, like a guy that has no inspiration or like has no like money or whatever to be able to go to Augusta and just doesn't know like how to enter the lottery. And he's just accepted the fact that he's just never going to go to Augusta. Yeah. And he gets presented with this opportunity to just play the par three course and they're going to be like, but you can never step foot on the other side of the road. I think he's just like absolutely because I was never going to step foot on the other side of the road anyway. Sure. All right. we have got this Sunday night

we have Rough and Rowdy Now look if you haven't if you haven't watched Rough and Rowdy before I really can't explain how much you're missing out This is and we get the perfect dosage of it Just every couple months You get this madhouse Which is just a packed stadium

In a small pound With locals going absolutely crazy For 40 fights of amateur people largely like hillbillies beating the shit out of each other on live pay-per-view commentated by our own Dave Portnoy

Big Cat oh and Bill Burr Oh just the biggest comedian in the world right now Yep It's pretty good It's insane You're getting like three hours of a Bill Burr Like stand-up comedy mixed in with him like talking about

Like funny things that are happening front of him I won't say it's better than that But it kind of is because he gets to be spontaneous Like he just gets to watch something and comment on it. I mean, Dave, obviously, we've seen he's incredible. Big Cat, Dave and Big Cat announcing this have just proved that they're just incredible. And that's like what they were born to do is like be able to talk about these funny looking characters that are just putting themselves in funny situations. But Bill Burr talking about like the average person doing stuff is that's like his whole bit.

Right. Like I would watch or I would listen to Bill Burr like commentate on paint drying. But then you give him a bunch of hillbillies throwing haymakers at each other and it's even better. Yeah. And this one's in Youngstown. So you not only have that hillbilly factor, but you also have these, like, Italian, like, these guys are boxers and they think that they're professionals and they're coming out thinking like the music's going to be playing for them and they're going to be knocking people out. Because Youngstown's like the birthplace of boxing. I didn't know that.

Yeah, it is. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. It sounds like the birthplace of boxing. I think they're putting a mural up in Youngstown with like the Barstow logo on it because they're so happy that like we're coming there and doing like this huge event. So there are like 40.

fights. We've got our very own gay Pat, who is our gay blogger, fighting this guy Bray, who is a convict who did like four or five years in prison, who is not exactly the biggest fan of homosexuals. No. We have an ex-police officer obligated to step down from the police force is fighting a skateboarder. Yeah. Police obviously hate skateboarders. I mean, the police officer, gay pat's fight. I'm going to be there. I'm going to be on the roast. I'm always on the roast for Ruff and Rattie. It's the coolest thing I look forward to. Um, it's very tiring because they always give me this big camera and I heard I'm getting an even bigger camera this time.

They're like, they're bringing me one like from the truck apparently, whatever that fucking means. It's going to be this like little, I mean, I have a very little figure and I'm going to have a, uh, a camera that's, you know, double-sized. You're twinky dink. Um, but that fight with the, so gay pat's fight is going to be huge. Obviously, it's pride versus prejudice is the name. It's the best boxing name, I think of all time. Yeah. ever um but that cop fight man that is moving the needle because he did so basically the backstory

of that for anyone that doesn't know rhone our our our guy rhone went for this hilarious run through or what do they call that like a drive promo oh you're talking with the cop yeah with this cop right around right around right around right around like you would see on cops and rome was in this hilarious character and he was you know acting as though he was like commentating cops which he was actually He was going to like actual calls and shit with this police officer. And the police officer couldn't be more respectful of what we were trying to do. And he was trying to show like how like boxing means him and everything. Anyway, the video comes out and the mayor, I guess of Youngstown or whatever, got wind of it and said that it wasn't professional, that the guy did it.

And he said that he would be terminated and that his job is no longer ready for him when he comes back from this boxing match. And Dave caught wind of that and said, well, he's still going to fight and we're going to pay him double his salary after his fight is ended. so we're going to do the right thing. And I think that just, like, the police force is riding for this guy because they know that he did the right thing and he's, like, fighting this punk who doesn't give a fuck about anything. I mean, in the videos, the skateboarder's like, I don't give a shit about this pig and shit like that.

So, I mean, I couldn't be looking forward to, I could not be looking forward to that police officer fight more. Like, honestly, that's my favorite fight I think I've ever had leading up to the rough and rowdy. Pre-order Rough and Rowdy 4 at buyr-r-n-r.com. Right now, it's a, only 1599. If you wait until the day of the show, which is August 5th, that's Sunday night, August 5th, coming up. The price skyrockets to 1999. So you save yourself, uh, you save yourself

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for some? It is. Very old, very overdone. However, what we're going to add is categories. So we're going to do Dream Forsome. We're going to do it once a week as we're going to try to do. And it's going to be Dream Forsome of X. We're doing Dream Forsome.

of Tiger Woods is this week. So it's yourself. You get to play around the golf with three other people, but those three people have to come from the category of they are Tiger Woods. They're just different Tiger Woods. It's different years, different versions of himself. Yep. Whatever.

We might do, we might do, I don't know, golf celebrities. We might do U.S. Open champions sometime. We might do, who knows what we might do. But we're doing Dreamforce him. You can submit it to us. You could email us for a play of Barclos Sports. Ors.com, say, hey, I want to know what your dream for some is from this category or for that category, from golf announcers, from presidents, from whatever.

This week, it's Tiger Woodses. Frankie, you're up first, different Tiger Woodses that you would want to fill out your dream force. So I do a very wide range from 1981 all the way up to 2018. 81? Yeah. Wow. So my 1881, my first Tiger Woods is also, are we picking three of them?

and I'm the fourth. Yeah. Okay. So that, I'm going to have to choose one here. Yep. No, you got to figure that.

Because you're in the force. That's not. You don't want to just, you don't want to. I mean, I would just follow. You could just pick four tigers and just walk behind them.

I would absolutely. No, you don't get to be there. Okay. This is happening in a bubble on a golf course, but if you don't put yourself in the bubble, it just happens and you know that it happened,

but you don't get to actually be a part of it. 1981, Tiger Woods, he's like five years old and he's on that show. I think it was called, that's incredible. And they're basically just going through a five-year-old Tiger Woods's day and he goes onto the golf course and he does this little like shimmy dance after he makes his putt.

If you put me on the golf course with cute little old five-year-old Tiger Woods and he's just fucking nailing 30-foot putts and doing that, you know that historical dance he does where he walks to the, oh, for those listening home, I just knocked something over in Eric and Nardini, our CEO's that. You just knocked a phone. Like an actual, we have like landlines. She has a landline? Frankie was just doing the shimmy and he knocked that. Anyway, so Tiger, little Tiger does this little shimmy.

And I would love to play on a golf horse. And Tiger Woods, who is owning the golf course, shooting lasers at the age of five? Love that. My second one is 1996 Tiger Woods when he won the U.S. amateur against Steve Scott. Fucking Dagger City. Tiger is just nails. I would love to have the competitive nature of a young Tiger Woods in 1996.

When Steve Scott, I have that correct. Steve Scott's the one. that told him that his ball wasn't marked the right way. So Steve Scott tells Tiger with the girlfriend when he had the girlfriend. Right. His girlfriend's caddying. And then in the book, it's funny in the book that they go through like Steve Scott's like beautiful life ever since about he's like an assistant pro at a club and all that.

And you're like, hey, Armicottayette, like nobody goes to fuck about it. Tiger ended Steve Scott's life that day. Correct. Essentially. Steve Scott had all these aspirations. He's going to go pro and all that. Tiger just literally squashed his ambition forever. And I just want to see that competitive.

I think that was when Tiger was, I think that's when Tiger first tasted blood. That's when Steve Scott's girlfriend said to interview that like, every time Tiger hit a great shot, we'd be like, great shot Tiger. And every time we would hit a good shot, he wouldn't say him.

I love it. And that may sound like someone you don't want to play with, but if you're a Tiger fan, that is peak Tiger Woods of who you want to play with. Even though he wasn't peak Tiger Woods yet, that was like him, that was him first tasting blood. Like, oh my God,

I can murder people out here. I like that. Now my last two I'm now looking at that I just don't know who to pick because can I tell you who I'm deciding between? Yeah. So it's 2006 British Open Tiger after his dad had passed away. I picked that because I feel like that was like the apex of when weird shit was happening in Tiger Woods's life. I would love to have the stories. Tiger was like living separate lives and shit and like he was just that was when Tiger was like out of control, but he was in control on the golf course.

I think I would love to have that guy. but I also would love to have 2018 Tiger Fused Woods in my in my foursum. So that's the two that I'm deciding between. Well, it's okay.

You didn't know the rules. So you can have four. I think if I had to choose. We talked to them, we talk to them, Marshall, you get to play as a fives. Yeah,

you know what? If I'm going to do a four-sum, I'm picking 2018 today's Tiger Woods because he also has the crazy stories. He may not let him out, which is the only thing that I'm nervous about.

He may not like, he may be a little bit too defined about his stories. I also have 2018 Tiger on my list, and that's why, picked him because I think he's softened now. Not that he's going to give all the secrets, but he's definitely more conversational nowadays.

I think about the shit he was saying in 2006 though. Like, yeah, you got here what I did last night. Like, tell me, bro. Tell me what you fucking,

what a four hours that were doing. But that's also part of it too. Like, I think over the course of the round with 2018 Tiger, you could get him to break a few times and get a few stories. So go through them. All right. So yeah,

I got 2018 Tiger. I have 1989 Tiger, which if you've read the. book, it's when he's, uh, it's his first national amateur tournament. He plays with, uh, he gets match up with John Daly. Oh, oh, you're right. And he almost beats him. This is a really good one. So he almost beats him. And that's to me is when Tiger really was like, oh shit, I can actually, 14 at the time. Right. He's, yeah, 14 or 15. So he's matched up with John Daly, who's relatively unknown at that time. But he's basically beating him through nine holes. And then John Dio is like,

fuck this. And he, he ends up beating him. But that to me is the tiger who's like, all right, I can, I can play with these guys and I'm fucking 15 years old. I'm gonna be the best ever. And then my other one is 2001 Tiger. After he wins the Masters. And then he's just, I just want to see what that looks like up close. Tiger Slam.

Yeah, after he wins a Tiger slam, I just want to see what that looks like up close. Yeah, peak tiger. Yeah, that is probably peak like golfer in the history. Well, they say that's like the end, that was the run of the best run of golf ever seen. Right. Right.

Right. When he finished in 2001. Yep. Yeah, because he held, that was a Tiger Slam. He held all four majors. So my first one is I believe it's 12 year old tiger But it's the year We're all just playing with toddler tiger

It's pretty great Kind of weird I'm surprised nobody said Two-year-old tiger On the Ed Sullivan show You just walk around 18 holes with him He'd probably get tired The whatever year it was in the book

Where they say he went 32 and O In the tournaments he played that year I think it was when he was 12 I just want to see how fucking good that is Like this little child beating everyone that badly, I have to just know. Like, could I play with him?

Or would he just dust me? It's basically what I want to know. I think, like, at age 12, he's old enough that he would just dust me. But I have to know. I want to know how far. That's a good debate. That's a good, from the gallery.

What age tiger could you beat? For a lot of our listeners, probably like four. I would crush Ed Sullivan, Tiger. No doubt about it. Five-year-old Tiger would absolutely beat 99% of, People. Yeah, he might, like, he might beat me.

Yeah, he might beat, I don't know. I think he beat me. I wonder what ain't. That's such a good from, we might have to do that next week. My next one is 2010, like, March Tiger. Okay. Before he came back. That's dangerous.

Could you imagine how interesting it would be just being like, buddy? All the other year taggers were like, you really fuck this thing up, man. And then I also put in there, 2007 Tiger, who he won like the PGA that year. And that was before like his ACL shot and all that kind of along the lines of what Frankie was saying in the 06 Tiger in that that's like peak like he's fucking everything that moved. He's winning major championships. So to put that tiger and 2010 tiger in the same foursome. I like that you're having the tigers interact and how they might bounce off each other. This is a very, like, we're a sociable group.

Oh, I didn't think of 12-year-old tiger interacting with. And then you've got 12-year-old tigers in there like, what are you guys doing? What the fuck? What the fuck happened, man? Well, now, hold on just a second. You didn't look like that. Where the fuck is, y'all? Where's half your money?

What's going on? What happened to the road? Put some roguing into that hair. And he's just like, guys, like, look at how good we're doing. We're 12. And we got everything, everybody loves us. 2010 like what are you doing dude oh the best is the tiger sees 10 tigers like I got bad news that third tiger shows up and he's just got like the droopy eyes

and he looks like fucked and they're both just like covering the 12 year old tiger's eyes like don't look cover his ears he can't tell to hear the stories so I just think that that dynamic and just being in that group kind of mixing it up the iK 12 year old tiger you should have heard about what he was doing and to the neighbor Like, you won't believe in just. And then, you know, and then see in 2010 who's like devastated and he's like, I can't believe we're talking about this. And if we're doing this whole time, this whole time travel thing, Tiger Woods meeting, you

know, the ghost of his future, he would just be like a robot. He would never get in trouble and he'd win a million majors. So you'd be doing Tiger Woods. You're saying it would affect how 12 year old tiger goes around his business. Oh, yeah. Well, then would Tiger Woods be Tiger Woods? It's like the butterfly effect. What do you think like, like,

What kind of impact do you think 2010 Tiger would have on 2007 Tiger? Like, do you think 2007 Tiger would be like, I got to stop? I got to tell somebody we got to figure this out. Like we got to change. Part of me thinks 2007 Tiger would just be like, fuck it. Let's do it? My question is, do you think, I think we've actually asked this in some form, but do you think if 12-year-old Tiger knew what his future was going to hold, he would take it?

12-year-old tiger? Yeah. Well, he's 12. He doesn't fucking know any better. All right. I don't know. 12-year-old tiger yes i think but wasn't he at this point based on the book he was like not happy that his dad didn't treat his mom great and all that type of stuff so like maybe his being like

wait i was gonna do that to wait what right i'm trying to think of what an age of what age because he was super mature because when you're 12 and you hear about the things that he that happened to him even the bad you still like oh i won all these tournaments i did all these great things but as you get older you're like that shit's like not worth it right it would be hard for him to take out of his own future like I'm going to win the masters by 12 I'm going to win basically the grand slam and I'm going to do it by winning the u.s. open by 15 by winning the british open at san andrews by 8 like i'm going to just do all this amazing stuff and you're going to just i'm just not going to be guaranteed to do that but come on right he hits a rough patch but then he ends up happy which we're

yeah 20 18 tiger i would love to him to talk some sense into 2010 tiger so i was going to be mostly okay i was debating between 2010 and 20s 2018 tiger for my third but i just thought getting him right in that emotional vulnerable state might be like hey tiger i'll be your shoulder to cry on let's talk about tiger may be too reserved yeah he maybe but he's but no i feel like the other ones were more reserved isn't he like chatty now and friendly yeah but i feel like when you were in tiger's crew back when he was tiger woods i don't think he held anything back right he's playing the stories of the way he would talk to people and like the the language he would use this probably happened

Yeah. When he played golf with, like, Barclay and Jordan, he was swapping stories with those guys at the same time. I think that's a good point. I mean, our own Liz Gonzalez, who's the host of Barsaradio, she said that she was like a waitress in Texas when he was at Peak Tiger. And he like was sending her messages saying like, you have any whale sperm? Remember that fucking story? He told like a joke or something like that. Yeah.

Wait, you're saying we're believing Liz Gonzalez stories? Honestly, I don't believe one story she's ever told. But when she said that Tiger tried to hint. with a whale sperm joke, I thought that actually made sense. Okay. I just, I don't know about that, maybe, maybe. But regardless, it would be interesting.

Everyone out there listening, very curious to hear, very curious who the three tigers are that you would play with to round out your foursome. Send us suggestions for Dream Forsome categories going forward. These are obviously fun. I thought this was a rousing success.

I mean, once you start talking about the tigers interacting with each other, because I hadn't thought about that. I'm just thinking about my own selfish reasons. Like I want to see this stage, this stage, this stage, but 12-year-old tigers being like,

what is going on, fellas? You guys, like, come on. Rain it in a little. This is Christ. This got out of hand.

All right, that's it. We got, we got Firestone. Enjoy Firestone this week. We'll be back on Tuesday and then on Thursday. There's a very good chance. We are in St. Louis for the PGA championship.

We're working on it right now. We're talking to the PGA of America. We're trying to get credentialed. It's looking likely that we will, in which case, at least some of us will be there. We'd love to see as many people out there if we're there. So let us know. Hit us up. Go, Tiger.

Hit it hard.