Fore Play - 2022 Major Predictions, The New Telescope, & The Stealth Era

Episode Date: January 6, 2022

We each predict who will win at each of this year’s major venues: Augusta, Southern Hills, The Country Club, & The Old Course at St. Andrews. Frankie tells us about the new James Webb Telescope that... will either find an extraterrestrial Tokyo, or nothing. The new TaylorMade Stealth Carbonwood driver is upon us. Riggs is getting tased. More.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, I presented by Barstool Sports. Welcome back. Second show of the year 2022. For usual, we have a lot to get to. It's just myself, Frankie and Trent, Lurches. I actually saw Lurch last night. Lurch is dressing up in costumes and shit for AXon, which I was, I actually crashed the Axon little party last night because a bunch of our buddies
Starting point is 00:00:29 are there. Josh, Lurch, shore, a bunch of people that we know. So I went down in there. Very funny story of our guy, Lurch, who, so we're, and he's gonna, it's tough that he's not here, but this is kind of what we do. I got this from Frankie, where we just talk shit about him because he's not here. It's very nice. He can't defend himself.
Starting point is 00:00:47 But we're hanging out. It's a coronary dropout, which is a great little spot here in Scottsdale. And AXon, like, read it out the whole place for their sales teams and all that. And me and Josh are hanging out. We're hanging the Lurch. Lurch kind of disappears for a second. look over and there's this big like buffet line you know and it's got all the different and maybe 10 of those things with the the lids on him where you reach the lurch is walking lid by lid just lifting each lid just seeing what's in there all by himself j is there looks over points at him
Starting point is 00:01:18 lurch sees that we see him and it's like fuck you guys whatever and like disappears or so well like five minutes later he pops up just sitting at a table by himself just housing food and And I got a great picture of him. He came running over all rattled. Like, you motherfuckers, you all people I was hoping not to see was you guys. So Lurch is not here right now. He's clearly doing Axon stuff, work stuff all week long. But another point to that whole thing is that I will be getting tased tomorrow morning.
Starting point is 00:01:46 What? Really? Yeah, they were talking about it last night. And they were like, dude, since we're all in town and you're here, you should get tased. And I was like, well, what's that really entail? And they were just like, we've all done it. That's a big thing at Axon. Everybody just gets tased.
Starting point is 00:01:59 For like five seconds, it really hurts and you can't move anything. And then you're just fine after that. And I was like, fuck it, I'll do it. Wow. And you get no, you're just getting tased to get tased. There's going to be footage. So I imagine, you know, could be a good little video. I guess in my mind of justifying it as like content.
Starting point is 00:02:17 I don't know. But so, yeah, they kind of just talked me into it at the bar last night. And I was like, yeah, sure, I'll go get tased. I don't know if that's going to be fun. That'll be definitely interesting. It's going to be a life moment. Just getting tased to get tased. Smitty got tased in the office once by Ebony,
Starting point is 00:02:33 and it almost sent him into a shock where he had to go to the hospital. Right. So there's two different types of tasing, if I'm correct, where there's the up-close one where they jab you with it, and then there's the one where they shoot you with the little, which one are you getting? I think it's the shoot. Bro, they do that in the hangover,
Starting point is 00:02:52 and Zach Alfenakis takes one of the fucking face, dude. So I believe that the, again, the M.I. the kind of what to expect is they hit you with it for about five seconds it really hurts you lose control of everything I mean everything but they do it in like a controlled environment I think where a couple people catch you maybe you're on like a mat this guy was explaining it to me last night who is the head of training and ops and he I will say he had a very maniacal smile on his face the whole time that he was describing what he's going to do to me and I was like this guy's he's confident that it works but he's not confident that I'm going to like enjoy it and he just
Starting point is 00:03:28 at the end of the night, gave me one of those taps on the shoulder and a laugh and like, I'll see you Thursday morning, Riggs E. And I was like, all right. I wouldn't be so much worried about the pain as I would be worried about my, my tase face. Like, I'd be worried about what my body and what my face looks like when it happens. Like, you know, guitar, guitars, when they, when they're really, when they're really going at a solo or a riff, they kind of get a crazy look on their face. I feel like it's similar when you get tased.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I think you have no control over what's happening. and you could just, you could really just, I don't know, I can't wait to see the footage. I want to say that. Yeah, I'm definitely worried about that, if we're being honest. You know, I think they said they have a super slow-mo camera that's going to film the entire thing, and then they'll capture it on phones as well. So, yeah, I just said, fuck it. It's five seconds.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Five seconds. Five. One, two, three, four, five. It's over. All right. But five seconds for that. but videos and pictures last forever. What if you fucking,
Starting point is 00:04:30 what do you shit your pants? I think that does happen to people. Your heart just stops beating. That's the other thing. I would never get tased because I have a heart condition and I'm pretty sure if I got tased, my heart would just explode and I'd die.
Starting point is 00:04:44 100% your heart would explode. Your heart hates you. Yeah. Well, I don't feel good about that. I want you to do it, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't call you a pussy if you backed out of it.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I'll say that. Look, if there's one thing I learned in the last, you know, four months, I could back out, I should back out of stuff. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah. Probably no. I don't want to ruin the thing, though, because Axon, the other thing is you're not getting anything out of it, really. I know we're talking about the content side of it,
Starting point is 00:05:14 but Axon, I get it's like a, it's like a, it's a, write a passage or something. Initiation. A little bit. I don't know if I wanted to use that word,
Starting point is 00:05:21 but if, if, it's like, well, they're all wearing, they were all wearing, like costumes last night. I think I saw a picture of Lurch
Starting point is 00:05:28 wearing a Batman costume. Spider-Man, I think. Spider-Man. And Josh was wearing Buzz Lightyear costume. So there's some sort of cult going on where it's an initiation. Well, that's the other thing. Yeah, I agree with that. I love Lurch and Axon seems like a great company. We obviously
Starting point is 00:05:44 love Isner. But Lurch in my life is a constant reminder why I got out of that life. Because I just, I know, I kind of know what's going on. I see glimpses of it. And again, And Isner seems like he runs his ship. It seems pretty cool. But like the whole corporate thing is just not for me personally.
Starting point is 00:06:00 And I know Lurch loves it. He's always circle back, put a pin in this, whatever. But like I, Lurch being a constant presence in my life is also a constant reminder of why I got out of that life. And I'm actually grateful to him for that. Yeah, I see that as well. I 100% agree. When those pictures come through, I know that they all think it's going to be funny, but it's a little bit depressing on our, on our end of just like, ugh, like we don't want to be
Starting point is 00:06:24 part of that. And we do, I feel a little bit of a tie to axon. We have a, we know, you know, there's a little bit of cross pollination with Lurch and with Josh and with a bunch of our friends and the Dadbod classic. So yeah, I just got kind of caught up in the hype. They told me it was five seconds. They've all done it. They survived. I did ask. I said, what is like one and a hundred people die from this thing or how's that work? And they're like, no, no, no. It's like way, way lower than that. I was like, but you tell me it's not like zero ever. And they didn't. And they didn't really give me an answer. I don't think that happens. And Axon, Taser's done stuff with us before, with Foreplay, with the Dave Portnoy show. So yeah, I just got, I got caught up on the hoopie.
Starting point is 00:07:05 I figured it's five seconds. There could be a cool video from it. If the video is really, really bad, I think I'm in control of it. So I will just, although I don't trust like Josh. I think Josh would make sure it gets out there. Totally. Yeah. I might have to do something where I have full control. No. I would not do it. I'd just choose not to. Okay. Right? Unless Dave Portnoy was tasing me, I'm not doing anything. Like if Dave Portnoy said, you were two minutes late to the office, I have to tase you in the forehead right now.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I would say, give it to me. Just shoot me with a real gun if you want to. At this point, it doesn't matter. But if Josh Isner is trying to tase me, see you later. I just didn't, I couldn't really come up with many big time negatives was my thing. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know. And you had a few soda pops at this point, I imagine? No, no, I went down.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I had one beer and I went up. Went to sleep. I also, I wonder if there is like, is there any sort of machismo tied to it where there, everybody's talking about it? Like, we've all done it. Why don't you do it? It's sort of that deal, which, you know, that could happen. What's that term there? I'm vulnerable to that.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I'm vulnerable to that. What's machismo? It's like meatheads. It's like macho. Machismo. It's the first time I've ever heard that word in my life. Really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:33 First time anyone's ever used it in my presence. Machismo? Let me just quickly get a... Come on, bro. Come on, dude. A machismo? How do you spell that? I have no idea how you would spell it.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's M-A-C-H-I-S-M-O. It's a strong or aggressive mass. masculine pride. It's a great word. That was happening last night. This is basically direct machismo decision. Dude, I've never heard that. I can't believe that.
Starting point is 00:09:02 No one's ever used machismo in my presence. That's a fact. I need you to work it in sometime this week. I will. Podcast, but maybe in casual conversation. I'll absolutely use that. Okay. Shopify.
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Starting point is 00:10:57 was the American guys Patrick Reed, Jordan Speath shirt. I think that's right, where they had the winter hats on. They were dominating over in Europe somewhere. I think it was on the road. Yes. I remember, I remember, I believe it was on the tail of a horrifying Dave Portnoy email where he yelled at us. That's right.
Starting point is 00:11:17 I don't remember what it was about. I don't remember what it was about, something about the Ryder Cup, but I remember all caps and a lot of exclamation points. So, and I remember being scared. I believe that the, the incident, the time the shirts went out, was 2016, which was at, um, Medina. I think that was at Medina when the U.S. won.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And the, uh, that was like Reed, um, when Reed took down Rory and all that was going crazy on Sunday. And the picture of that shirt was from the two years prior when the two of them had the winter hats on and the USA sweaters on with just the flag. Remember when they did that with the USA sweaters? It just had the American flag and the phone was awesome. So that was the shirt and it just
Starting point is 00:12:01 said American guys. The incident was I believe it was like midway through the Rory versus Patrick Reed match and Patrick Reed was making bombs and shushing crowds and going just nuts and
Starting point is 00:12:16 Dave hit us up and was like Hey guys, anything going on on the Rider Cup was the first paragraph. And then second paragraph was all caps, wake the fuck up. Yeah, that's right. That's right. He slow played it. I remember that now.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Now it's all coming back to me. Really unfortunately that I'm having this memory again. But yeah, he slow played it at first, kind of like, hey, anything going on in the Rider Cup? And then just full dragon breath just burned us alive. And we put out shirts. We were hoping to like, you know, make it work that way. And those are the moments where you really.
Starting point is 00:12:50 do feel like just turning the lights off is better than dealing with what you're dealing with right there right you're staring at that email and you say nope don't want to deal with this ever again i mean a dave port on an email like that is straight out of the scariest horror film you can possibly think of your body gets really hot oh really hot they should put you with all those things all those little stickers and they should put you inside like an MRI yeah and they should analyze your brain every time someone gets one of those emails from Dave or text. And that was my life for like five or six years, where each time you get that ding, the ding in the text just sounded different, even though it wasn't. You knew. I'd be in the shower on like a
Starting point is 00:13:36 Saturday, getting ready for my day, and all of a sudden I'd hear a ding in the room outside, outside the shower in my bed. And I said, well, that's Dave for sure. That's Dave for sure. And I'd run out all wet, puddles all in the hallway in my room and I'd look at it. It's a Dave Portner. I said, now how the fuck did I know that? And then it'd be like, how come we did this yesterday? Are you going to fix that or something? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:14:01 And I'd just be like, hot again. Wouldn't even have to dry off. I'd instantly be dry. The weirdest things happen in my body. Yeah. No, it's, yeah. We've all been there and it's a tough spot. I'm picturing that ding like a church bell, like,
Starting point is 00:14:16 don't. And you're just like, well. Now I got to go deal with that. Dude, I had this extra sense of knowing when that ding was his. And I think that's pretty similar probably to most people that have bosses, right? I mean, you work in any sort of environment where you have a boss, especially like a high-powered boss like Dave Port and I, where he's going to let you know how he's thinking and he goes 100 miles an hour of all times and pushes you to try and be the best that you could possibly be. You're going to be in the crosshair sometimes and you're also going to be on high alert at. All the time. If you're not high alert with, if you're not on high alert with your boss,
Starting point is 00:14:53 and what are you doing? Then you're just, I don't know, right. You have no emotions. And the other side of all that is what you just said, where you get way better at your job. Like having that, coming out the other side of that, you're just like, all right, now I know what to do. Riggs and I are like, all right, now we know what to do. And we sold a bunch of those shirts. And then we continue to the podcast. We continue to do the videos. And you just like keep rolling along. As as hot as your body gets and as mentally straining as it can be, you come out the other side. Like, that's what this company is built on, essentially. And you, you largely do it and you come out the other way that, the way you're describing
Starting point is 00:15:30 because you just want to ensure that you now do everything professionally to avoid ever having that sensation or feeling ever again. And I would say on my phone, you know, if I, when I really check my phone, the only thing on earth I'm checking for is to make sure there's not a text message from data. important. That's really it. And I had a story last year, I think it was last year. And I had a girlfriend at the time was dating school and it was always kind of getting in trouble or just not being fully there because I'm on my phone a while. Checking social media. So we went out to dinner. I said, during this dinner, okay, I'm going to just not look at my phone at all. I'm going to put
Starting point is 00:16:11 it in my pocket, turn it on the silent mode. Let's engage with one another. Let's enjoy the food. Let's just be immersed in each other's company. It's going to be great. I remember about 45 minutes in, I said, now there's something has happening right now. I don't know what the fuck it is. But I have to. It was like I was already gold in the synagogue scene. It was like, I have to check this phone right now. I just, and sure enough, I had a text message for the first time of two months from Dave Portnoy.
Starting point is 00:16:35 That was just like, he needed some shit from me. And it was like 8 p.m. on a fucking Wednesday. And I said, now I have to leave this dinner. This dinner is over. We are not talking anymore. I will fucking talk to you tomorrow. My life is now over. for the next 24 hours and thank God I check that thing so you're right everybody I think everybody
Starting point is 00:16:53 does have a spidey sense when it comes to a boss you have to otherwise you can't survive and how amazing must it feel to be the boss to send out that feeling you know I don't know I don't know about that I well there's a lot that comes with that you have to become the boss you have to be the person that is able to be the boss but I'm saying that one feeling of being able to affect people on that level it's like when you send a text message, you're sending out stomach cancer or something. You know what I mean? It's the power there is, is enormous. I, but I would imagine in their position, they're just like, there's, there's so much going on for them that they're not even thinking about what that's doing. They're like, I just need it done. I don't even know. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Totally. Oh, absolutely. I'm just saying any boss on the planet, the Jordan Belfords of the world, like all these people in these movies, these high powered. bosses that have gone to the time. Elon Musk. Bezos. When you get a text message from Jeff Bezos, imagine, imagine what happens in some manager's brain at Amazon when they get a text from Mr. Bezzi. Are you kidding me from Jeffrey? Oh my God. When there's, when there's billions of dollars on the line, oh my God. Yeah. That gives me that. Oh, I can't even sit here. And you know, you know Elon's just the meanest texture on the planet because he has no social
Starting point is 00:18:19 skills whatsoever. He wants it done Elon's way. He has a higher way of thinking. No one thinks like Elon Musk. He has his own brain and no one else will even come close to it. If you're not on that level which you're not able to, he's probably angry. So you're probably never able to make
Starting point is 00:18:35 Elon Musk happy. There is a boss mentality it seems like of just they've with withered away when they communicate with subordinates. Any like typical social BS. All of that, they just weed it out and they just go direct. And that makes it even worse because it's like there's no
Starting point is 00:18:56 BS in. There's no way of sugar coating. They just hits you right in the fucking heart with it. And it just stings, man. It's like, well, you know what's good and different about Dave is that the meaner or harder he is on you, the more he actually likes you. That's true. means he's more comfortable with you. It means that he would, if he's able to yell, he's also able to bring you out to dinner on one of the trips and like hang out with you and gamble with you
Starting point is 00:19:25 and do all the things. I think the difference between that and most bosses is that when, when a other boss is very mean to a person, they want to be mean to them because it's their power, it's their power struggle. They want to be able to like hold power over somebody and just like beat someone down. Like, I'm sure like my buddy Rob like just gets beaten down by his boss or just, doesn't give him the time of day. Won't give him any out of boys. But there's no dinner after that. There's no hanging out.
Starting point is 00:19:51 It's just go home, be miserable. You suck. I'm good. I'm big. You're small. I'm right. You're wrong. And Dave couldn't be the more opposite of that.
Starting point is 00:19:59 So when you are in the crosshairs of Dave Portnoy, it means that on the other side of that, there is light on the other side of the tunnel. That's true. It's almost like you strive to get yelled at by him. Because it means that you are in a position of being important enough for him to care. And then that is a great spot to be in. Look at like Jeff D. Lowe was screamed at. And given, I think, a countdown, if he didn't get into his office or on the radio show within five seconds or five minutes, he was fired.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Left out the way. He says, do not come back. You're done. That was after the great, the great Duncan Awards. After the Duncan Awards. He got absolutely shat on. And then Jeff D. Low went on to make like four different new shows, has like the coolest. Him and Ken Jack have the coolest podcast about movies.
Starting point is 00:20:44 and they're just doing great and they're doing fantastic. And now Dave likes Jeff D. Logos on a show all the time that doesn't. It's great. You know what I mean? Like he went from almost being fired and not even talked about to now he's the guy. But I don't know that that means you want to be getting yelled at by Dave. I think you do. I think there's a weird part of your brain that's like, give it to me.
Starting point is 00:21:06 No, I think weird part of your brain is like give it. I don't, I don't know. There's people at bars who that want to be in the position to get yelled at. Yeah, you want to be in the position to get yelled at. Yeah, absolutely. position to get yelled at, but you don't want to actually get yelled at. No, if you know that it comes with being yelled at, then you take it. You take it. You absolutely take it. There's people that are just skating by that they don't even, they don't
Starting point is 00:21:23 have any conversation with them whatsoever. And you'd rather the conversation be, what are you doing? I'm mad at you. I hate you. Because that means that he's caring about. But there's people that do really well that aren't getting yelled at. Like Big Cat's not getting yelled at by Dave Portnell yelled. No, but Dave would yell at Big Cat more because he's so much more comfortable. I'm telling you that he would absolutely scream in him if you had to. He would say it. He would say, but he doesn't. I'm still saying you don't want to be getting yelled at. by date is what you want to be in a position where Dave's comfortable to yell at you but I don't want to be getting yeah we're we're sort of right we're middle of the road there in terms of that
Starting point is 00:21:52 like he is comfortable yelling at us and boy he will like you know so but again I'm with I agree with Frankie he's right like the more comfortable he is the more he'll do it and then you go out the other side you go out to dinner and it's great it's he really I mean he really is a great boss honestly in that regard I know we're talking a lot about it right now but he is yeah no I grew that you would rather have that where it's like direct and honest than all you know any kind of weird you know vague confusing bullshit you don't want that um you guys mentioned or frankie mentioned the movie podcast i watched don't look up finally and i really enjoyed thoughts i thought it was really good yeah that was really funny i thought um i thought leo was great leo is just the best always and
Starting point is 00:22:35 jennifer lawrence is the love of my life hard not to hard not to like her jona hill was funny i thought the whole thing was great really good glad i watched it you guys had me worried. You guys had me thinking that at the end I was going to be super depressed, which I kind of was. But it's also like, it's a funny movie. Well, it's also absolutely what's going to happen. Yeah. Maybe not in our lifetime, but it's just a little depressing that that's absolutely what's going to happen. That ending and just the animation and the CGI and knowing that that's what's going to happen to this planet is horrifying. Yeah. I didn't need to see someone spend all those millions of dollars to recreate.
Starting point is 00:23:12 like I would have been fine living my life not seeing that visual. Sure, we think about what's going to happen if the sun explodes. They're saying the sun will explode at some point. That's the most horrifying thing ever. I think you got 10 billion years. Right, but at some point it will. So that feeling of saying this all will be gone is horrified. And then seeing it, you hear about all these things.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Asteroys are going to hit the earth. This is what would happen. All these tidal waves and all those things. Someone putting in the time effort millions of dollars to recreate it. Didn't need that. I didn't need that. I don't need to have a visual. When they're having their dinner at the end and they just get like brutally wiped away and that was tough. I didn't need to see that. I thought the scariest character in that whole movie was the billionaire sort of based off Elon Musk, all those guys. Those guys, I'm scared of those guys. I've been making fun at Elon Musk for years just because I think it's funny and because he makes sort of weird decisions because he is so like his own brain. But he is like the scariest guy in the. planet to me in that regard because of exactly what that character is like in that movie because
Starting point is 00:24:17 they're like that a guy like a guy super smart like that will see something and even if like he'll compute something that won't have the greater good in mind but if it has some sort of benefit over here he'll he'll just do that and that's very scary to me and then they're always right until they're extremely wrong just like that guy and then it's over for everyone you put all of your trust and all of your money and all of the power into this one guy who has this amazing idea and then you hope that it's right and then when it's not it's over he has to the back i love i love you on musk i love you on musk i know guys fucking great yeah he like i i understand his greatness for sure he's he's the smartest dude in the world he's the richest dude in the world he comes
Starting point is 00:25:02 up with ideas that nobody else even thinks of but being that smart i i think there's an element of danger there. Have we talked about this James Webb telescope on here yet? I'm not going to get into the whole space thing. I won't get crazy. I know we have to talk about golf. We're going to do some predictions. We're going to get into the whole thing. I can't wrap my brain around this James Webb telescope. Do you guys know anything about it? No. No, I know nothing about it. 10 billion dollar project. I'm going right off the top of the head here. This is all the knowledge that I've tried to take in. I'm trying to absorb it. I'm trying to relay it here on this massive podcast, all these hundreds of thousands of people. James Webb Telescope, it's been in the works for, I don't know, 30 years.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Some people say it is the most advanced piece of technology we as humans, mankind have ever released into the Earth. It took all of this work and all of this research to figure out how to get this telescope into orbit a million miles away from Earth. So that, so the Hubble telescope is like so far, however far away from Earth, this is going to go. even more further away from Earth into this ridiculous orbit zone. I was going to say, I grew up in the Hubble telescope was our satellite king. That thing was people were raving about that thing. So, dude, the things that the Hubble telescope are able to see are enormous,
Starting point is 00:26:22 but the fact that we are now going to be going to a million miles away and the things that had to happen for the James Webb Telescope to deploy and get ready. Dude, it gets ready in space, right? So you send it out in this, like, module or whatever. And then 375 movements have to happen. over a month. So each day movements happen. You have to watch these simulations guys. These solar panels
Starting point is 00:26:45 come flying out. All these layers start to move up. It's all these ridiculously large sizes of these like aluminum solar panels or whatever the fuck the thing is. And there's the size of the sizes of tennis courts. Like you
Starting point is 00:27:00 think that it's like this little thing. There's sizes of tennis courts. Each panel are slowly moving out. You know how many things could go wrong when it's in fucking space? And the benefit of this telescope is that we are going to be able to see literally the beginning of time. It's going to go so far and have such a reach with what it's going to be able to see, that it's going to be able to see the very first stars, which we've never been able to see before. And they actually said they do not know what they're going to see.
Starting point is 00:27:29 It's so advanced and so incredible, such an incredible piece of technology, that they're not sure what to see. Then there was a story that broke that they got like four. 14 theologists into NASA in the coming months, in the leading months up to the launch, to talk about how are they going to break it to the world when they find something that they, number one, can't comprehend. And number two, like, if they find life, which they do think they're going to find. It has an infrared sensor or infrared technology where there, if there's LED lights on a distant planet or galaxy,
Starting point is 00:28:03 it will be able to detect it. So, like, if there's a Tokyo or New York City on a, another planet, you will see the infrared light coming off of, the LED light coming off of that that piece of planet. How the fuck can they do that? Right. How in the fuck can anyone do that? I'm just letting you know what's going on up there.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I don't know how it got to that point. I do know that. I'm not saying they can't. I'm just saying, you know, I can't, we talk last show, dude. I can't cook grilled jeeps. I just like the furthest sophistication I got. And these motherfuckers, they can stint it. Infrared right.
Starting point is 00:28:38 light on planets and stars from 14 billion years ago. What are we talking about? This coffee table that this laptop and this microphone are sitting on, I put this together. I bought it off Amazon. And every time I move it around a little bit, a piece falls off. And I'm just waiting for it to collapse onto itself.
Starting point is 00:28:57 And that is the level of sophistication that I have. The fact that these guys are, these scientists or whoever they are, are building something that then builds itself in space is really, is a hard thing to wrap my head around. It's just building itself. It's building itself. And if one thing goes...
Starting point is 00:29:13 I was talking with hubs about this. He wrote a great blog on Barses Sports about it. It is actually the craziest thing that humans have ever done. The European Space Agency combined with us to get in on this. It's the technology is... It's $10 billion. So if one thing goes around while it's building itself, done. It's over.
Starting point is 00:29:30 It's $10 billion just explodes in fucking space and we never see it again. But it's gone well. I was just looking while you were giving your... little monologue about it. It looks like it went well. Yeah, so the hardest part, the five-layer sun reflector thing has officially been put into place. It was the hardest part. 75% as we're speaking right now, 75% of this telescope is intact and it's on its way. You can go to James Webb telescope.com and NASA, whatever, and you'll see the actual, you'll see its route and where it's at and they'll also show you a little
Starting point is 00:30:05 simulation of what it's about to do that day. And then they go live each day and talk about it at NASA. So dude, I've been... Look, where is web? This is like one of the links on the site. Where is web? Bro, it's so exciting. There it is. The day that it starts shooting back information, this world
Starting point is 00:30:21 could change. And they are pretty prepared for that, which no one's talking about. It's almost like, don't look up. They're prepared for something to be seen on this fucking telescope within the next 10, 15 years for us not to be able to handle. So we all need to be prepared for that. This also goes to show that I just have too much news in my life
Starting point is 00:30:40 that this has not come across my desk yet. You're talking about it like how it, and I believe you that it's the biggest thing that's going to happen. They're sending back data. Could be aliens. Could be a sign of life. There could be a Tokyo 25 million miles away or whatever. And I'm just sitting here.
Starting point is 00:30:56 This is all new information to me. Haven't seen a word about it on my feed. So I'm probably following the wrong. people or there's just too much else going on out there that I just haven't seen it. It's a sad world we live and we're living in a horrible world right now where a lot of things are happening and media sucks on every side, every channel, no matter who you fucking follow, whatever. The fact that we're all not going to Times Square and like cheering when this thing hit orbit and going crazy that humans, mankind sent something a million miles into space
Starting point is 00:31:26 to go look at the beginning of time. Are we, are we using our brain? right now. We're talking about whatever we're talking about right now is Joe Biden, whatever, is Donald Trump, whatever. Who gives a fuck? We've got something in space that these dudes in like Houston made and they're flying this thing a million miles into space and they're going to see the beginning of time. Yeah, but like, somebody could also argue like, what's that going to do for me? People would be like, what's that? And also, what's that going to do for me? And also, what's it going to do for you when they shoot that info back and there's nada. There's nothing. out there. That's going to be that's, it's fun and exciting to think that there's another
Starting point is 00:32:08 civilization that we're going to find wherever this thing is headed. The other side of that is like, what if it's just a dark screen? You're just like, all right, so we'll just keep looking. Right. What do they find like a hundred million like Mars? And everyone's just like, all right. I think that's just as interesting. I think that's another piece of information. You're like, wow, there's really nothing in there out there at all. I think that's just as interesting. I think that's just as groundbreaking. That's not just as interesting as finding fucking aliens out there. Another,
Starting point is 00:32:39 another Tokyo. Are you kidding? If you're in, if you're in as deep as I am with space, you know there's something out there. So if you were to tell me, if you were to tell me that there's literally nothing out there, and we're just the only somehow lucky people to just be on this blue planet
Starting point is 00:32:55 and we're just floating around space and we're the only ones in this vast, endless, endless vasts of fucking space. if you're telling me I'm the only thing, the only little speck of life, that would be almost as groundbreakingly breaking news as telling me that there's a bunch of people playing beach volleyball in a Tokyo city a billion miles away. I think that would be just as breaking news that we're the only fucking psychopaths floating through space that we can just go, I can go lick my asshole if I fucking take a red on my chest.
Starting point is 00:33:25 The problem is not that the problem is that this thing can't tell you that there's nothing. They can just find nothing for a really, really, really, really, really long time. Right. That's what I've, like, I've combed everything. There's nothing there. It's over. Like, they could just constantly send back stuff that like, uh, uh, Neil deGrasse Tyson is
Starting point is 00:33:43 like, this is super interesting, but you show to an average person. And they're like, whatever. I, I don't give a fuck about that. Well, the big thing is that they're going to see. They're going to every, every, um, what's the word I'm looking for? Every, um, and I said we weren't going to talk about space, but every single, what the fuck is the word? Um, when it's not a fact, um, um,
Starting point is 00:34:02 Theory, every theory, every theory about how the world started or how the galaxy started has all been based off of what we've been able to see so far, the data that we have so far with the Hubble telescope and all this stuff. And now that we're going to be so much further, all of that's going to be rewritten. That's not crazy, interesting to you guys. Like the stuff that has been theories is now going to be put to the test. All these theories about Big Bang and how stars are born and like where we came from. That's all going to be like put to the test because now they're going to get actual finite information that they didn't think was once possible. Yeah, but Riggs is right. You led with, we're going to find another Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:34:44 And that's super interesting. Well, they have the technology to do that. And Riggs is also right in that the information that is largely going to come back, I would imagine, is something that Neil de Ross Tyson is going to be super giddy about. And it's going to be big words that I don't understand what the fuck's going on. So, so the only thing that you're going to get perked up for is if they find aliens, if they tell you this is how the world started, you wouldn't, you wouldn't get up for that. You're not, you're not, you're not super- know how the world started, but it's based off of all, it's based off all theories, right?
Starting point is 00:35:12 They haven't gotten that far yet. It's like if this is true from how far we can see, it must then be true based on the facts that we have further on, further on, further on, from space. Now they're going further on, further on, further on from space to see if that is then true. It's like confirming all these theories. But it's a little bit like, uh, if somebody confirms that like the molecules that they thought came together made this countertop that I'm doing the podcast. I don't give a fuck. Just give me a countertop.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Like it's, you know what I'm saying? True. Yeah. We want Tokyo. Me and Riggs want Tokyo. Yeah, that's right. We want space Tokyo.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Look, you can't lead with Tokyo and then give us like nothingness. That's just we're going to, we're going backwards. I hope they find it. Well, and also the more like if the information does come back and there is no Tokyo that we find yet, like we're dealing in a space where. these things take time. And if they don't find it in the next couple of missions, like next thing you know,
Starting point is 00:36:07 we're 100 years in the future, we're gone and we never saw anything. That's what sucks. And that's why I'm so hungry to find something. I want one little piece of information that's going to change my life. I want it. I'm hungry. I want to tell you, Frank,
Starting point is 00:36:19 I overall agree this is extremely exciting. I just want to prepare you for, if they send back some shit, that's not really that hyped. I don't want you to get slandered on the internet. I don't want, you know, me and Trent to be really depressed because you promised us Tokyo and we got a new molecule or something.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I don't want any of that. So I'm just trying to prepare for that. But I didn't know a lot about this. I'm going to read the shit about this fucking thing. As I saw it, the name of it on Twitter that we did it successfully. But I thought that could be a new fucking cell phone tower up there for I didn't know. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Not enough people. Not enough people are talking about it. Look, if they can, if they, if they find other like they can clearly just prove all of a sudden that there's just other civilizations out there. A, that's awesome. But B, I'd be a little bit worried. Like hasn't wasn't hawking always like, do not send messages out there. Like we find out there. There's a good chance that if we're, let's say, we're 10,000 years advanced, what if they're two billion years advanced? Like, look how far we've come in the last 100 years. Now you're
Starting point is 00:37:25 telling me there's a civilization out there that has been doing what we've been doing for 100 years. They've been doing that for, let's say, two billion years. That's horrifying. They're going to see our fucking big solar thing that took 350, you know, perfect thing. And they're going to be like, oh, we're going to go eat these people. That's a good idea. The thing that, yeah, I agree. And it's amazing how much you can advance in those years, right?
Starting point is 00:37:50 I think who was it, Galileo or whatever, no shodamas, all those guys. Galileo, I think, was the first one with the telescope, right? Who was the first person with the telescope? Galileo. Galileo was what, 430 years ago, 415 years ago maybe? Galileo died in 1642. Holy fuck. Pretty good there. Pretty good. Pretty fucking good. So 415, whatever, 400 years ago. And now think about, he was looking out at this whatever that was, a little piece of plastic telescope. And now, 400 years later, we have a thing orbiting a million miles away from Earth. Think about not, not that much time. When you think about time, when you think about how long time has been around, 400 years is the tip of my pinky. It's nothing. Nothing. I watched a video on YouTube the other
Starting point is 00:38:41 day that I thought was interesting where it's talking about what we're talking about where when the chances that we find another civilization, that is, at the same technological advancements that we are is incredibly slim. The likelihood that we have been going at the same pace is incredibly unlikely. So that leaves us with the chances that either A, they are super duper, duper, duper far advanced than us, or B, they are not nearly as far advanced as we are. And we are running the risk that if we run into A, they're going to have way more than we have and they're going to be able to defeat us if it comes to that. Or we get, we go to B where we discover, you know, they still, they haven't figured out the iPhone. They haven't figured out the advancements that we
Starting point is 00:39:23 have. So that's the risk you run. You either run into A or you run. Or you run. into B. And if you want to risk that as a human species, which I think that we do, it sure seems that way, you're hoping that you run into B. I will say an impending alien war would be thrilling. I mean, I know it would suck and we're really, really likely to just get annihilated. But imagine the buildup to that. Like the aliens are coming for us. Like, oh, we'd be so fun. We're about to have a legitimate war with fucking aliens from another planet because we set web up into the sky in 2021. I mean, that would be. Or we run into B in this scenario and they've got sticks and they're like, and we have nukes. So it could go either way. It's the multiverse thing where, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:15 there's all, you could still have the same type of world, but there's different decisions going on in each one. Like at each point, the superior people on that planet made different decisions in our superior people. There, our Elon Musks are working on battery operated cars. Their Elon Musks are working on changing their eyeballs to lasers. You know what I mean? There's something that's different in each universe, which is what I think. And there's no way it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:40:41 We just happen to follow our path. They follow their path. There's no way they're similar. Their path is absolutely, if they've been around for longer, way more advanced than ours. There's no sticks. And also, who's to say that there are sticks in another universe? Who's to say that there's any of this in other universes? Maybe the humans are particles or something.
Starting point is 00:40:59 You know what I mean? You don't know what that thing is. No, but I'm brain's going to fucking explode. I know. And whenever you picture a scenario like this, you think, everyone thinks, because it's more fun or more interesting to think about it than being far more advanced than us. But like I'm saying, it could go the other way. It really could.
Starting point is 00:41:15 They could just, they could be microscopic. Right. I mean, that's like there's, we were just microscopic at one point. Who's to say they have eyes, nose, ears, and they like to jerk their cock off to fucking porn? You know what I mean? Like, you have no idea that they're human beings. They could be, like, they could be anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Even, even air to us is our thing. You know what I mean? Even oxygen to us is our thing. We don't even know if that. Our atmosphere is very much our atmosphere. Like, it's very specific. Even light. Haven't they done a lot of, like, the same theories about what they're trying to confirm with
Starting point is 00:41:53 the origins of the universe. Isn't, aren't all those same calculations and theories and everything agreeing that like water is the center point to what life, like life that there's no like based on physics and chemistry and everything they've looked at that like you just got to have like water to have life and water breeds a certain type of life. See,
Starting point is 00:42:11 that could be factually correct maybe, but I would say that is that is factually correct towards life as we know it. Our life. But in our galaxy, theory, but there's one. Right, but their theory is that like the known universe, which they're not going to be able to see beyond the known universe. Like the universe is everything is like governed by the laws of physics that are not like just because you go to a different solar system based on all the way those planets like interact with one another.
Starting point is 00:42:40 They interact with dust clouds, the comets and meteorites that come from there. All of this is based on the same laws of physics from everything they've been able to see. So unless you go outside of this universe, which is like not possible. I don't think that Webb could just go outside of the universe. Like, based on everything that they've come up with, it has to be, or their best guess, and again, it's just a guess, is that, like, life is based on, like, water and, like, oxygen. And if you don't have that, you can't have life. That's what I've read.
Starting point is 00:43:12 That's what I've, like, read. And therefore, even though shit could be crazy different, it most likely is from a life standpoint, that it needs to be somewhat relevant because it's based on the same shit, that all the life here is based on even though there's billions of different species and shit. Right. They're always looking for water. That's the number one thing they're always looking for. That makes me feel a lot better. And I know there's
Starting point is 00:43:32 going to be a Facebook dirt. He said he wasn't going to talk about space today. And I'm here for my golf fix. Can't they talk about a cool story in golf and find a golfer that's trying to make the tour? Well, listen, this is some crazy shit that's happening in our fucking world. And we got to talk about it. And speaking of technology, we also got to talk about the stealth driver,
Starting point is 00:43:51 Video just came out on YouTube, the advancements in technology in the golf world are psychotic. What a pivot. The advancements and technology in the golf world are psychotic. I also, I don't think I've ever laughed harder at a four-play video than I did yesterday's video. I don't know why. I was watching it with my dad and we're watching on the TV, and I couldn't believe we put that video out. I couldn't believe Taylor made allowed us. to put that video out.
Starting point is 00:44:23 The first 10 minutes, if you want to talk about trying to, like, show off a golf club, right? You're like, look at this amazing new driver. Look how great it is. Look at all these amazing bombs, right? We didn't get a ball in the air for eight to 10 minutes. Trent never hit a ball in the air.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I couldn't get a ball in the air for eight minutes. I needed a shaft re-change. I needed a degree change. I needed all these loft problems. They needed to put a new grip on my... Like, if you want to talk about trying to sell a golf club, that had to be the worst video ever made for a company until we ended up painting it well but i laughed so hard because that's us that is us we get invited to this thing this amazing
Starting point is 00:45:02 taylor made media day all the people from taylor made are so jacked up look at this new golf up the club's amazing amazing it's incredible tiger woods uses it and tiger woods put it in play and out drove jt it's amazing he has half he has half of a right late bro go back and watch that video and watch the first couple shots they're like all right trent let's see it He misses the golf ball. He misses the golf ball. It barely gets off the tea, the tea area. It is so funny.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Yeah, I mean, yeah, no, it is very funny. I would argue that makes Taylor made the smartest company in the world because they got the DJs, they got the tigers, they got all these great guys who are striping this, this fucking thing. And it's a beautiful driver. And then they've got us, the regular guys who, you know, it's going to take a little bit. We're not, you can't just put a new club in my hand in a. immediately think I'm going to be hitting beautiful shots. So it's a nice mix, I think.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Dude, I was the first one to hit. And, you know, he gave a whole presentation. He said, you know, a lot of people think we've been working on golf clubs for a year since we're working on this golf club for 20 years. We said, wow. And then he said, this is the first carbon wood. There was the new age with titanium. That age is out. The carbon wood age is in.
Starting point is 00:46:16 And we said, wow. And then he took the fucking clubhead cover. off the top of that puppy and it looked like Darth Vader, the stealth, the red and the black, like he's arriving at the Death Star. We said, wow, I said, all right, Riggs, take that first swing, let's hit it. And I just snap hooked one left out of the driving range. Well, that was a moment where I wanted to deliver for the engineers and this massive company that worked so hard on this club and all the marketing schemes.
Starting point is 00:46:44 I wanted to say, man, it's impossible to hit a bad shot with this thing. Nope. First one just over the top, close club face, violent hook left. And I said, wow, it felt like it felt really good. And then you're right. We eventually started to hit them really well. You do pick up ball speed with the club. They're going through all the science about how all the guys that they tested without changing anything else picked up ball speed five, 10 mile an hour ball speed. They were picking up, aka hitting the ball significantly further. So the stealth is amazing. It's just when you put us out there, it's inevitable that we are going to hit bad golf shots. It's in our DNA. It's what we do. Dude, it was so funny. But yes,
Starting point is 00:47:23 we did end up finally crushing balls. I mean, I got up to, I got up to a 307. At first, I couldn't get the ball in the air, and then I hit one 300.7 yards with all this crazy spin rate and it was awesome. The club feels amazing. The stealth is an amazing piece of technology. The fact that it took them 20 years to build, to be able to figure out how to make a carbon-faced driver, be able to withstand all of that striking and all of the wear and tear of the drivers that an amateur golfer puts on it is amazing when you think about how soft carbon is like if you think about like carbon hoods of a car when you see all those like awesome looking cars they say like oh if this thing gets in a car accident it's done right like it's made out of nothing it's so light it's so soft it's so
Starting point is 00:48:07 flexible and the fact that you're able to i mean a bryson de chanbo type swing is going to be able to crush golf balls and it's going to be fine it's going to be strong enough it's going to withstand all that pressure. It's amazing the technology behind it. Isn't there like, what's the number? There's like a blank 60 layers, 60 layers of carbon there. It's nuts, man. And the ability to be able to change it from a draw to a fade to straight is awesome with the weight distribution. And I saw some people with some thoughts about the red face. Honestly, maybe on video or pictures, it looks a little bit different than what you're used to because it is a little bit different than what you're used to. when you see it in person and definitely when you like match it dude i had the red i had that red um shaft
Starting point is 00:48:50 going into the red face yeah it is it is such a conversation piece where you're like who what fucking driver is that man and at the end of the day aren't they always trying to just make drivers like that where you get to just gloat and show off how cool your new drivers your new piece of equipment your new gift your new toy i think they nailed it man it's such a wow factor and when you see it in person, it's so much better than pictures and on video. I'm telling you, addressing the ball, you feel like it's been supercharged by fire. Like, you're about to play some crash bandicoot episode and you're about to hit a ball a billion miles away. I couldn't agree more. I could not possibly agree more. It was, it is weird. I saw a few people
Starting point is 00:49:32 commented that too, because when we, when they first put that puppy in our hands, not one of us thought anything about the aesthetic or the color other than this thing does look like it's from outer space and it's came from the aliens that have been sophisticated for two billion years and created something within all the confines and the rules and regulations of golf that we're able to use and it just hits the ball further. It's an incredibly empowering feeling when you grab that stealth. We fucking loved it. And then everyone that we filmed with, we talked to off camera from Rory to DJ to Sergio to
Starting point is 00:50:05 Matt Wolf, like every one of them. We're like, yeah, what do you? You know, that was kind of the classic like water cooler. were talk throughout the whole trip when we were down there filming with these guys. He was like, oh, yeah, what do you guys, you guys get to hit the new driver yet? Yeah, what do you think? And every one of them raved about it. So clearly, Taylor Made has figured it out.
Starting point is 00:50:22 This stealth thing, ours are coming. So we had a funny moment. We were, like when we were leaving, this is like right before Thanksgiving. And there's an embargo and the information and they don't want it to get out before they want to announce it and all that stuff. And here us goons are with like this incredibly secretive piece of technology at Taylor Mades are off for two decades. And we're like, oh, yeah, we can just kind of leave with these, right? And somebody, a couple people were like, you know, what, sure, whatever? So we put them in our bath out ready to
Starting point is 00:50:49 leave. And then somebody who actually knew came flying over on a golf car. It was like, you guys cannot leave the property with those drivers. We're not letting Rory McElroy go home with his driver, let alone you guys, whatever. So we are now going to get ours in the next day or two and actually get to hit them outside of just a couple days that we had in Florida. And I am as giddy about that and having that item, that weapon in my household on my person, that I've been about any piece of golf technology, I think ever in my life. And also at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:51:19 if you're watching that video being like, these fucking guys don't deserve these drivers, they can't even hit them. Number one, you know how nerve-wracking it is to hit a driver in front of the person that made it? I mean, what a terrifying thing to have to do. You guys get, when you're listening to this, you men and women that are listening to this fucking podcast right now,
Starting point is 00:51:36 whenever you have a first tee shot or you have to hit a drive in front of people, unless you're the top 1% of golfers on the planet. Even the top 1% of the golfers on the planet still get nervous. But your average just weekend hack, there's no worse feeling than having to put a ball in the air in front of your buddies, in front of a stranger, in front of your boss. Maybe you have to go out there and impress a client. Like, you have all this pressure to hit that ball up in the air.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And now imagine these people, this group called Taylor May has invited you out there to come test their brand new 20-year driver that they built. The man who was behind us built it. He invented it. It was his. It's his baby. And he goes, yeah, test it out, man. And I just dummy mark the bottom of it, didn't even hit the face, just dribbled it off.
Starting point is 00:52:20 That is the most relatable, obvious swing of all time. What was I going to do? What was Frankie Borelli going to do, drive a perfect draw to $295 carry? Like, yeah, it works, man. Like, no, man, we have to work it out. We have to see if it works for us. That's the beauty of Taylor-made. They have a lot of different drivers.
Starting point is 00:52:37 The Sim, the Sim 2. Now the new stealth. Like, you find out what works for you. This happens to be the best driver they've ever come out with. We're going to try it out. We're going to use it. If you've watched the video, if you've seen everything on social,
Starting point is 00:52:48 go try it out. What you're going to see is a huge club face that you've never seen before, and you're going to fall in love with it. They were able to make it bigger because it's lighter. And that right there is going to blow your mind. And you're going to see with me in the video, it takes a lot of changes because it is a bigger club face,
Starting point is 00:53:05 It is fatter. There's a lot of differences between that and the sim. So maybe you need to change some stuff. Maybe you need to get a new shaft. Maybe you need to go lighter. Maybe you need a new degree. It is a big, it is a big endorsement for getting fitted because like your shaft. And that matters for your golf swing in enormous amount.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Like all of us, you know, we were kind of, they went in. They built these drivers based on the specs from we got tested a year ago. Our swings change every 18 holes, let alone every day, every week over the course of a year. So the same shaft that was like perfect for, or the back. shaft for like my swing a year ago when we got tested. It's different, like different spin rate. You're coming in a different, you know, angle of attack. And so, you know, they tweak that. And then all of a sudden, same swing. You're not changing anything on your physical person or the way that you swing the club. Yet it's the same club head, different shaft, different tweak on the loft. And all of a sudden, you're just roping them.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Frankie's hit them 300 yards. That shit matters. People should get fitted and they should get fitted for tailor-made clubs, clearly. Because it works. It just fucking works. I saw a lot of people in the chat saying, oh, we're not as lucky to be able to get fitted. And I think if you look in the right places, you will be able to get some sort of fitting. Whether it's not the official tailor-made fitting at the kingdom, obviously we're very spoiled with that. I don't take that for granted one day. It's amazing that we get to do that. But you go to a Golf Galaxy or PGA Superstore or any of these places, they will help.
Starting point is 00:54:24 There's more than qualified people there to help you figure out your numbers. They have trackmans there. They have the simulators there. you're able to get a fitting and attach that to the price of your clubs. And it's worth it. Whatever it ends up being, however you need to do it, it is worth the price. It is worth the time put in. Some places will do it for free.
Starting point is 00:54:43 I'm telling you right now, you have to do it because if I would have gotten that first stealth off the rack, I would have never hit a fairway for the rest of my life. I would have just kept it in dribbles down to the right. And that has no, that's nothing negative about the driver. That's nothing negative about the club face. It's all about it just wasn't built. for me, I just couldn't do it. It was too stiff. It was too long. Everything was wrong. So you have to be able to be like if you bought if you bought like ice skates off the rack, no idea what size they are.
Starting point is 00:55:11 No idea what they mold if you, whatever, they could be any size. Imagine you go out there and you're, you're a size fucking 11 and all of a sudden you have size 15 skates and like they didn't get like you just wouldn't even be able to stand up even though they're the best technology in the world. Like so in terms of like size and and molding them to like your feet, that's what. what the golf and the fitting and all that is. And you're, not everybody has the resources, get it. But if you're playing golf and you're spending five, six, seven hundred dollars on a driver,
Starting point is 00:55:40 and you're spending $50 around, $100 a round and playing 20, 30, 50 rounds a year, then that extra $100 or wherever it is for you to get fitted and therefore make you hit your driver that much better throughout the year is an unquestionably great value. It's not even close when you spread it out over how much you're going to spend playing golf golf's already expensive get that but man getting that driver fit having it you know the correct um everything in terms of the partnering it with the shaft in the loft in the line what you need how how much loft you should get nine degree or ten and a half degree or whatever in your driver that shit's going to matter and it's going to matter the way that you drive the ball like i played the best golf in my life this summer and it wasn't even close i don't think that's like
Starting point is 00:56:24 uh uh coincidence that we got fitted for the best clubs in the world and that taylor made dialed us in So that was the most fun I've ever had playing golf. I think people should do that and want that if they're playing. It's already, you know, most likely it's expensive. You spend a good amount of money on golf. I think that extra hundred bucks, a couple hundred bucks fee to get fitted for everything to be perfect is worth it. Dude, wait until the people's, I don't know if it's already been put out there. I'm sure it has somewhere, but those stealth irons also.
Starting point is 00:56:53 We're going to put out a video with that, which is actually pretty, I think I have to use those. It's pretty mind-blowing guy. Like that's a mind-blowing video We use right now the P-770s And the P-790s Trent and I use the 790s Riggs uses the 770s It is mind-blowing
Starting point is 00:57:10 The The Fuck, what was I going to say? Like, it's not the challenge It was the Yeah, we just did like a What would you say that we did? Experiment, would it be an experiment?
Starting point is 00:57:23 Yeah, it was a kind of an experiment we did To see how much better Riggs would be With and Lurch and Trent They didn't have lefties, of course. just a lefty fucking buy it. People are just... I think you've talked about on the pod, but you are a nuisance when we go to these Taylor Made Media Days
Starting point is 00:57:38 because I think you're the only left on property. I was the only lefty at Taylor Made Media Day. That's including all the professional golfers that were there. They had to build me the set. They had to build me a driver and all that stuff. It's horrifying. They should have rallies and all these things out in New York City because of lefties being completely ostracized in the communities
Starting point is 00:57:55 because we're just not, we're not thought about ever. You go to a fucking... You're not represented well. You go to a fucking... fucking pro shop. You go to a fucking pro shop and you ask for a right-handed glove. They look at you like you're the dumbest person on the planet. They're like, why would we carry a glove that goes on your right hand? Like, what are you talking about? It's a nightmare. Um, so when we have that video coming out, it is mind blowing how important it is to really find the right cavity back or the right
Starting point is 00:58:20 type of, um, you know, muscle back iron that you're going to want to use. We all want to use the butter knife looking amazing you know stainless steel shines when you take it out of the bag it looks like a it looks like the best golf club that tiger woods would use it looks like a blade man when you look at the data i mean dude not to like not to um spoil the video but rigs was i would say 10 to 15 times better with the stealth irons trying to hit greens it was phenomenal the difference yeah so the thing was we were at the we were at a par three at where we were filming and it was like 155 yards into the wind, water short of the green. And it was like, all right, we're going to put you on track, man, and we're just going to see the result, just the physical actual result, hit three shots with your current, you know, irons, whatever you would hit in there.
Starting point is 00:59:17 And then hit three shots with the stealth irons. And I ended up hitting six with each. And I believe I went five for six greens regulation with stealth iron. and I was using a club less. So I was using like an eight iron instead of a seven iron. And then with mine, I think I went one out of six. Yeah. It was eye opening.
Starting point is 00:59:37 It was eye opening. Dude, lurched a lurched at a 230 yard four iron, I think. Yeah, with the stealth. Yeah. With the stealth. So yeah, it's really cool what they're doing. This technology is insane. The stealth irons look awesome too.
Starting point is 00:59:51 They're definitely getting them to look a little bit more appealing. Those very forgiving golf clubs. The 790s are also, and the 770s are the best irons we've ever hit. So at some point, it is one of those things where if you want to get fit, you want to see what you can do. Like, there's definitely a benefit to sticking with the 790s and 770s just because, number one, they look unbelievable. Number two, when you are hitting them right, there's no better feeling on the planet. It's just the stealth. It's just great to have options.
Starting point is 01:00:15 The stealth, man, like Trent was like, I'm using the stealth going forward. Oh, the stealth irones are going in my bag. I love the 790s. They serve me well, broke 100 with them. We made a lot of good videos with them, had a lot of fun with them. The stealths are going right in my back. Because I had them just like Riggs did. And it's just the difference is it's just for my, I don't even know, like, I don't know if the skill level is the thing or what it is.
Starting point is 01:00:38 But like just with those, I was more comfortable. I was hitting it further. I was hitting it more consistently. And that's what I, for a guy like me, that's what I need. And that's what the stealth irons provide. So if that's what they're going to give me, they're going on the back. For sure. I mean, we're going to the kingdom in a few weeks.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And I'm going to tell them, convince me not. to use the stealth. Right. You guys have to come up with some science, technology, results, numbers. You have to convince me not. Otherwise, I'm leaving with the stealth irons. I don't care what anybody says about me. I'm hitting greens.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I'm hitting the ball a little bit further, a club further, two clubs further, whatever it is. And it's just easier. So you're going to have to convince me not to leave here with the stealth irons. Otherwise, that's what I'm doing. And I don't give a fuck. And that's what it's all about. Hitting it further, hitting it better, more consistency, all that stuff. I know, again, sometimes you get caught up in the mature.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Chismo of hitting these like these nice irons like Frankie described, these knives, these beautiful things. And the stealth irons are beautiful, by the way. They are immaculate. Yeah. But they're seeing you sometimes people get caught up in that sort of that hype and all that. The goal at the end of the day is just to play better golf. And if the stealth irons are going to provide that, which I'm pretty damn sure that they are, that's what should go in your back. Yeah. I just got a DM, a live DM from a guy saying, hey, Frankie, love the video last night. I don't think I've ever been more convinced to go get a fitting and try and buy the stealth driver than watching you hit worm burners for the first five minutes and then a 300
Starting point is 01:02:00 yard drive consistently for the final five minutes. It's so true to be able, if you watch that video on YouTube, you'll see the progress in all of us, even with the three wood. The first couple swings were tough and then everyone started flushing them. It's, Taylor Made is doing stuff that you can't even comprehend, just like the James Webb's guys. Taylor made is the NASA of golf exploration. They're trying new things and it's working. Tiger Woods saw this driver. Tiger Woods saw this driver, said it's an amazing piece of technology and put it in his bag and used it in his first round back from, it was probably the most anticipated round in the last 10 years of golf and he used a stealth driver. And they finished second. They finished second. They almost won the whole thing.
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Starting point is 01:06:21 So we got some golf to talk about. We got predictions. So 2022 is the year of the tiger, as everybody knows, as we've discussed at length. The major championship venues this year are phenomenal, I would say phenomenal. We have Augusta National, of course. Everybody knows that every year. Then we have for the PGA Championship, Southern Hills, which was recently redone by Gil Hans. A lot of history down there in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Tiger Woods won the last time they had a major championship there, which was in 2007, the PGA Championship.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I was there with my brother on Sunday, first time I've ever seen Tiger. It was incredible. And then the U.S. Open is in Boston, the Country Club TCC, Brookline. I actually used to play in the member guests there a bunch. One of my buddies from school was a member there, Willie, and I played in, they called it the Squirrels. And it was, I think, three years in a row we played there.
Starting point is 01:07:15 So I know that, of course, pretty well. It's a classic old school U.S. Open course. They've done a bunch of renovations to try to make it, you know, a little bit more model. That's where Francis, we met, you know, had his victory in 1913. They had the U.S. Amateur there as like the 100-year anniversary of that in 2013, I believe. So a ton, ton, ton, ton, ton of history at Brookline. They had the 99 Ryder Cup there. That's where the putt was made on 17.
Starting point is 01:07:44 Everybody went bananas. And then the old course at St. Andrews, everybody knows that one. Tiger Woods has won twice there in terms of major championship. So, 2022 predictions, I think that to have a little bit of fun, I think we do this every year and then we just forget what we predicted. But we're going to go through the major championship venues and we're going to predict a winner. Who would like to begin? I can start. We're going to do all four
Starting point is 01:08:13 Are we going to go tournament by tournament? You want to do all four? Let's go tournament by tournament so people can really digest each tournament what we think is going to be the winner. Okay, I like it. My first, what do you want to start with? Do you want to start with the Masters?
Starting point is 01:08:28 I think we go on chronology. So Tiger Woods, obviously, we want to talk about for me, I don't even know if he's going to play in the thing. So I'm not even keeping, he's not in my discussion to win it. Unfortunately this year, I've said many times I want him to win every tournament
Starting point is 01:08:41 he plays in every major for the rest of the world for the rest of time. I just don't think it's realistic. If I'm going to make an actual decision, if I'm going to make an actual prediction, my gut is telling me to go with none other than Justin Thomas. Justin Thomas has one major win. He's got 14 wins on tour. The guy is an absolute weapon on the golf course, but he has to take that next step with majors. And I think he has to start this year in 2022.
Starting point is 01:09:10 You think about Justin Thomas and you hear one major win and that's a problem. I'm sorry, it is. He has to be able to win majors. He is a major winner. There's no doubt about it. He's always up there in the money rankings. He's always up there on PGA Tour wins. This guy has to start winning majors.
Starting point is 01:09:26 He is a competitor. He is a winner. He loves to win. He will win. And I think he starts at Augustine National. I can picture him wearing the jacket. I can picture him doing all the media after and talking about how this was his number one goal in life is to win the fucking green jacket and this is this is it he's here to stay he's going to be one of the
Starting point is 01:09:45 greats of all time Justin thomas has that fire in him he does I'm telling you I'm not just saying this because I like the guy and I'm not just saying this because I picked him every single tournament last year I'm telling you he needs to fucking do it he has to it's time Trent um I think that was that was good Frankie I thought that was I like I can also picture Justin Thomas in a green jacket I think that's a big part of it you can picture somebody wearing that thing. Justin Thomas is up there. I'm going with for the Masters. I'm going with Jordan Spee. I know that he's just, he always plays well there. He's got great history there. He's also got not so great history there, as everyone knows. But we're sort of, the Jordan
Starting point is 01:10:27 Speeth comeback tour was a big topic of conversation last year. He started playing well. And I think the Masters, every single year Jordan Speeth plays in the Masters, I think you got to give him a shot. I would love to see him fully emerge as the guy he sort of used to be at the Masters again and really start to roll the Jordan Spee thing all the way back. So I'm going with Jordan Speed. I really think it's hard to doubt a guy like that given his history there. And again, people can say that there's also another history there that would say that maybe he's got some nightmares there.
Starting point is 01:11:01 But I'm going with the positive. I think Jordan Spieth, he's my pick for the Masters. So a lot of us, all three of us are pretty much on. And the same or an extremely similar page here, I have. I picked one of the two guys that you guys picked for a lot of the reasons. And I picked Jordan Speath. And I do think we spoke a lot last year about Jordan Speath, is he back? Is he back?
Starting point is 01:11:25 He was getting a little bit of the tiger treatment of like, okay, he's contending an event after event, top 10. He got a win. Does that mean he's fully back? I think a lot of people are like, you know, he's fucking close. But no, that's not because the Jordan's. Speed that we know from 2015 won two major championships. He was three or four shots total away from winning all four major championships that year. The following year, he's got a five-shot lead with a few holes to go at the Masters.
Starting point is 01:11:50 Ends up collapsing, not winning. But then still after that, he won that British Open with all kinds of crazy theatrics on the back nine against Matt Coucher. Jordan's beef will be Jordan Speeth again when he wins a major championship. I think that's going to come at the Masters. I think that's a tournament clearly that Jordan Speeth is going to win. many times in his career. He won in dominant fashion there, when he won the first time.
Starting point is 01:12:12 The year before, he almost won against Bubba Watson when he basically was in high school steel, it feels like. And so he's going to win the Masters Tournament. And the final thing that really convinced me is when I did play in the member of guests at Whisper Rock in April this last year,
Starting point is 01:12:26 two weeks after the Masters tournament, our final little matchup that we had on Friday was with Michael Greller and Jim Bones McCai. Super nice guys. We sat down for about an hour afterwards, had a bite to eat and a drink. And Greller said during that conversation, man, that is a tournament that that kid's going to win many, many times.
Starting point is 01:12:44 And so his confidence, his belief in Jordan Speeat at the Masters tournament, combined with everything we're saying, Speeth is my pick. And then to jump right into the PGA championship, Justin Thomas is my pick for the PGA championship for pretty much all the reasons that Frankie Borelli said. Justin Thomas is going to win more than just one major. He has to.
Starting point is 01:13:05 You can't have 14 wins in the third. PGA tour, be as dominant in the Rider Cup as he was, win a players championship, have the year where he had the 63 in the U.S. Open. He won a major that year, and he shot a 59 that year, so he can check as many boxes as you can. He's going to rack up more major championships. I don't really know why I picked kind of him to win the PGA out of all of them. I just think he's going to win a major this year. I absolutely think he's going to win a major this year.
Starting point is 01:13:30 I want him to win a major. I think JT is awesome for golf. He's a really, really good dude. He's cool. He's tight. with everybody from the Woods family to Michael Jordan to us to like other people in the golf media he's just a man so I think he's going to win at Southern Hills the PJ championship Trent you want me to go next I think we're doing yeah I like the thing we're doing
Starting point is 01:13:53 here oh we're doing like a snake draft sort of deal yeah we kind of snake drafted it all right so PJ for me and honestly it took every fiber of my being to not pick this guy to win all of them because I think he's set for a monster year and just a monster career in general. Colin Moore-Cowl. PGA. I really did one. You could have put him in every single slot on these four majors, and I would have been totally fine with it. He's just a stud.
Starting point is 01:14:20 There's nobody that has, to me, in my personal opinion, that has a higher upside in golf than Colin Moore account. He's just, and now that we've gotten a little closer with him, we see him every year at the Taylor Made Media Day, he's just got it. And he's got that psychotic side of him. Everyone sees the poster on interviews where he's very nice and he's he's stunningly good at like, you know, talking about his life and what's going on and what he wants to accomplish. But then you get to, when we hang out with him, you see just how driven he actually is.
Starting point is 01:14:52 And I think we've talked about either on this podcast or just between all of us where he's got that little bit of tiger in him, which is always a dangerous comparison to make because you don't ever want to say that. but he's got whatever Tiger has. He's got that drive. He's got that one. And I think he's going to win at least one major this year. And I would not be surprised to see it. At least one of them happened at the PGA. So took it right out of my mouth.
Starting point is 01:15:17 That's my pick for the PGA at Southern Hills. Colin Moracawa, no doubt about it. You look back, you know, Southern Hills, Oklahoma. Tiger Woods, 2007 won there. And, you know, you do some research about the PGA championship. And at Southern Hills. and you know that you need a long iron, you need a really good long iron to be able to compete there at Southern Hills.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Tiger Woods won 2007 one of the best iron players on the planet to ever live. Kalamara Kawa also probably the best long iron player on tour. His approaches into greens are fucking psychotic from long distances. We saw it up front. We saw him hitting greens at Taylor Made Media Day from 265 and up, and that video will be coming out also. So, Kalamarkow just has the hit factor. He is poised to win for sure.
Starting point is 01:16:06 The last two winners at Oklahoma, Tiger Woods, and then Reteef Gousson, and the more you look into those guys, they're both great iron players. So a great iron player is going to have to win at Southern Hills. I'm picking Kalamarkow for those reasons and those reasons only. And also, he's just got the killer instinct, man. He's going to fucking murder you. And he's not going to stop until he wins. So if he doesn't win this, he's going to win the next one.
Starting point is 01:16:28 That's the type of person he is. and he may not show that, but when you talk to him and you really start to peel back the layers, you see that he is built from the same cloth as Tiger Woods. He is. There's certain guys that just have that fire in them, and I don't know how he got it.
Starting point is 01:16:43 You know, Tiger got his one way. I don't know how the hell Colin Morikawa has it. Maybe you're just born with it. Maybe it's just Maybe it's just Maybeeline, but it is what it is, and Kalamorakaa is my guy. I wonder. Yeah, in 2021,
Starting point is 01:16:54 Kyle Morcao was number one in strokes gain on approach of the best iron player in the world. 2020, he was number two, only to JT. In 2022, currently he's second. They've only played a few tournaments. So he'll probably finish first overall. He's such a stuff. If you're playing in a course where the experts and all these people that are doing
Starting point is 01:17:13 predictions and they're trying to figure out what kind of game you're going to need at Southern Hills, they go back to Tiger Woods and Reteef Gousson and they say, how did these guys attack this golf course? And it's with Long Iron Play. I'm going to pick the best Long Iron player and the best approach player on the planet. And that's Kyle Morric Allen. All right. line United States Open.
Starting point is 01:17:32 I think it's going to be a classic U.S. Open. It's going to be really narrow fairways. It's going to be thick, ass, rough. What do we got? So for the U.S. Open, I'm very excited for this. I really want to do a behind the greens there. I want to get all into the history of the greatest game ever played at the country club. This is where my guy, Francis, we met.
Starting point is 01:17:54 This is where my guy, Francis, we met, won the U.S. It was the U.S. Open, right? Because then he Yeah, it was US Open And he was a caddy there He grew up on like the fucking I think he literally grew up on the 17th hole Their house was like on the 17th hole
Starting point is 01:18:08 Yeah, he did I just didn't know because I know he won the amateur also So I didn't but that got him into the US open So yeah I haven't seen that movie in forever But it's still one of my favorite movies Um Francis we met the whole history behind it I love it brookline Boston
Starting point is 01:18:19 There's gonna be a ton of stoolies there I can't fucking wait That's gonna be a great event My winner may be a little bit of a shocker But I think this guy's also poised For a great year He's always in the he's always in the mix.
Starting point is 01:18:32 He's always in the conversation. And it's Victor Hovlin. He's had his best finish at the U.S. Open. That was in 2019. He was T-12. He also tied that. So he was tied for his best. He also finished, I believe, in the open T-12.
Starting point is 01:18:46 So Victor Hovlin is just in the mix all the time. He kind of has that mode where he gets into it. And he's kind of smiling around and he's wincing and he's squinting. And you think that he's not really all there. competitively, and then he just goes on these runs where you can't believe how fast he's shooting up the leaderboard. He has skill that you can't measure. He's just fucking unconscious sometimes.
Starting point is 01:19:09 And I think he's poised to win a major. I really think that Victor Hovlin would be that guy. If I'm going to look in this long list of golfers, who's going to take that surprising jump to the major? I think it's Victor Hovlin at Brookline. I like that pick a lot, actually. I think I would agree with you on all your points. Is it my turn?
Starting point is 01:19:28 Do you know how Snake's work? I kind of forgot You're in the middle The matter Which way we go Yeah I get confused So U.S. Open Brookline My pick
Starting point is 01:19:38 Is Is a guy who Another one who I just We keep saying this Who I think is poised To have a really big year A big like he's going to take that That major leap
Starting point is 01:19:49 And it's Patrick Cantley I think he is It's one of those things Where it's again Where you said Frankie Where you can see Justin Thomas We're in the green jacket
Starting point is 01:19:59 I just feel like Patrick Cantley is a U.S. Open winner. I'm trying to think. I think last year you finished in the top 20 somewhere. That could be wrong. I don't have all the – I didn't do a ton of research on this one. But Patrick Cantlay, to me, just feels like a U.S. Open winner. He's got that – you just need – there's certain guys who are U.S. open winners.
Starting point is 01:20:17 You just have – it's a fucking hard golf tournament. Sometimes, you know, the U.S.GA has been known to lose the golf course if you ask Zach Johnson. But it's always just a really hard test of golf. And I think Patrick Cantley has that steep. has that medal to be a U.S. Open winner, and that's why I'm picking it. Who are you calling Riggs? Getting a delivery right now, so I'm trying to take this. Oh.
Starting point is 01:20:44 Are we going to, do you want to? Oh, no, he still has to give his pick. I was going to say, I could go on to the open, but he's talking on mute right now. He's on mute right now. You, yeah, with that would definitely know. I like that pick, though. Yeah? Patrick Cantley.
Starting point is 01:20:58 Yeah, he's got that crazy eyes to him. And yes, him at the Ryder Cup. he definitely showed that he is ready to jump into the world of I'm better than you and I don't care who knows it. You know what I mean? There's that upper tier, that upper echelon of guys. And we always talk about the top. I didn't know what to do that. I don't know what to do.
Starting point is 01:21:21 That's fine. That's no problem. It's all right. That's no problem. But yeah, I like Patrick Cantley. Again, in this sport, this shitty sport that we watch, we're rooting for everyone. There's no wrong answer to me. I think when you make the points,
Starting point is 01:21:35 it feels right, right? Like it feels like that's the right answer, but at the end of the day, we're going to root for whoever the fuck is in the end, whoever is holding up the fucking newest open trophy or the Clarichoga wearing the green jacket. I don't know. How am I supposed to choose between a Kalamara cow
Starting point is 01:21:49 or a Patrick Cantlay or this? I'm going to try and make the points, and that's who I'm going to bet on. But fuck, man, golf is so hard. Oh, we talk about it every year. And whenever a tournament comes down to the wire, the margins are razor thin. A shot here,
Starting point is 01:22:03 over the course of four days. Like, it's four strokes back. You got crushed and it's one shot a day. It's nuts. So it's, I mean, we're doing this because predictions are fun and it'll be fun to look back on. Like a couple of these guys could just miss the cut of these tournaments. But right now, Patrick Cantley, to me, in my bones, feels like the U.S. Open. I like it.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Who do you got, Regs? I got Roy McElroy. It's been eight years, I believe, since Roy McRoy has won a major championship, much like Jordan Speeth, like Tiger Woods, we love comebacks, I love comebacks. I think Roy McRoy has to go on another tear. We've been saying it for probably five years
Starting point is 01:22:41 since we started doing this podcast. We've been saying it's going to be Roy McRoy's time. He's finally going to break through again. He's going to become the Rory of old. We saw him win in the fall. We spent time with him, so hopefully we can claim that he got the four-play bump in 2022, but finally opening up and spending time with the boys
Starting point is 01:22:58 and letting us record some videos. Boom, he goes out and wins a major championship. I think he's definitely going to win one this year. I think U.S. Open sets up for Rory and the fact that he hits it long and straight. One of the best drivers of the golf ball in history. His first major championship win was a U.S. Open, even though it was soaking wet at congressional. He went out there and got the win. His last three starts in U.S. opens.
Starting point is 01:23:21 He finished tied for seventh, tied for eighth, tied for ninth. If you recall, he made a hell of a run at Torrey Pines before kind of running out of gas on the last six or seven holes in the back nine on Sunday. But I love Rory. He's always been one of our favorites. We watched him hit a ball, preposterous distances right in front of our faces with the new Taylor-made stealth driver with the cool red face, carbon wood age.
Starting point is 01:23:42 So I think you pair all that together. I think Brookline is destined for an iconic winner. I root for that place because it's got such cool history with Francis we met and all that. Boston doesn't get enough golf love. There's phenomenal golf in Boston. So I want the city of Boston and Massachusetts and the country club to have like a, you know, those pictures and that history of who won this U.S. Open there. I want them to have somebody at Roy McRoy.
Starting point is 01:24:12 So I'm rooting for Rory. That's my pick. I mean, you don't have to tell. I want Rory to win again as bad as anybody. That would just inject a lot of life into a game that already has a lot of life right now. You don't have to say it. You didn't pick them. So you can move on.
Starting point is 01:24:28 You didn't pick your guy. I didn't. Maybe, yeah, I love Roy, though. You didn't love him 10 minutes ago. The old course at St. Andrews, I'm going with Tiger Woods. I think it's... Wow. It's a bold pick. I'm aware of that.
Starting point is 01:24:46 You're a bold man. I think that the only thing in the world that could top what Tiger Woods did in 2019 when he won the Masters tournament, after everything that he had been through, after 11 years since winning a major, after dozens and dozens of journalists and blue checkmark losers, counting him out saying he would never win again, how emotional and cool that was.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I think the only thing that could top that is him coming back and winning another major championship, and the only thing that could top that is him doing it at the oldest golf course on planet Earth, him doing it after the injury, after the leg and the pictures juxtaposed of his car upside down and shredded and mangled. And then him crossing the Swilkin bridge with people formulating and jumping over the
Starting point is 01:25:34 fucking, uh, the burn behind him as he comes up 18 with a red shirt and black pants and Charlie's flown in for it. I think all of that. There's just no way I can't pick Tiger Woods. I understand that it's unlikely. The guy might not even start in the tournament, but he won there in 2000 by eight shots. He won there in 2005 by five shots. He said many times over it's his favorite course in the world.
Starting point is 01:25:58 So you bring all the history in and the claret jug. There's really no course outside of Augusta National. I think that on most people's minds is iconic in golf with one exception. And that is the old course at St. Andrews. So you pack all that together. Tiger Woods is my pick. It's unlikely. I get that.
Starting point is 01:26:16 But there's no way I can't pick Tiger at the old course. I have to rock hard right now. Yeah, you painted a hell of a picture there. We'd all sign up for that right now. That would be as hard as the bridge. Right. Man, man, that's a tough one to follow, I will say. When we started doing this, I thought there's no way that anybody's picking Tiger
Starting point is 01:26:36 for these tournaments. As much as I wanted to, I was thinking there's no way. I think if Tiger Woods wins at the old course, I think Old Tom Morris comes down from heaven and just brings Tiger back up with them. I think they both float away into the clouds and we never see Tiger again. I figured it's unlikely that any of us are right in our picks anyway, so I'm going to go with Tiger and if it happens it's just something to dream about and think
Starting point is 01:26:59 about it. That's great. Totally fair. All right. For my pick at the open, I'm going with Colin Markawa. I said I wanted to put him in all these places but I'm putting him in two of them and this one, on top of everything else that I said before about how great he is and how good his game is. I also think he's a
Starting point is 01:27:14 historian and he wants to win at a place like this and he also wants people to know that his game can win anywhere. Like he wants to win all different types of tournaments. Tiger is also like that where it's like, doesn't matter where you put this guy, you put him on a patch of grass with a golf ball and a few clubs, he's going to be the best person out there. I think Colin wants that and I think he absolutely wants that reputation at a place like the
Starting point is 01:27:37 old course and it starts this year. So I'm, I'm picking Colin Morikawa at the open. You're going back to back claret jokes for the Morikawa, man. I am, yeah. I, again, I, I just, outside of Rory, this guy is just, he's got me, he makes my nipples hard thinking about it. You're going three majors in like one calendar year for our guy, Kalamorakaa. That would be a fucking monster season. Would you be surprised? No. No.
Starting point is 01:28:03 No. Nothing is surprised me. It's not a calendar year. What do they call that when it's like, um, is it like a tight, like when you go from like the last, it would be like the last open to this open? Like, what kind of year would that be? Uh, it's not a calendar year. Calendar year is a 22.
Starting point is 01:28:19 No, it's not a calendar year, but within. within a year, I guess, but I thought there was a name. It might just call it within a year. Okay, yeah. So you're saying that within a year, he's going to win three majors. Yeah. I like that pick, man. If you're going to pick a guy to do historic shit out of this group of guys,
Starting point is 01:28:38 I think Calamarkow is a great bet. That's historic shit. My pick, and this is no surprise because he's the best golfer on the planet, it's John Rom. John Rom's going to go to St. Andrews and he's going to dominate. It's just as simple as that. That guy is ready to win the claret jug. He only has one major.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Every fucking time this guy tees up a golf ball, he has a chance to win. And the fact that we haven't picked him, we've had three picks for four majors, and this is the first time someone says John Rom's name. This guy is a problem, no matter what tournament he's playing in. You look back at his history at the open. He started in 2016 at Royal Truon.
Starting point is 01:29:14 He finished T-59. Next year, Royal Burkdale, T-44. Missed the cut of Carnus. He probably wanted the. to kill somebody, behead them. I mean, think about that flight back from Carnacy. 2019, he comes back after that beheading, after that bomb exploded, after he probably needed all new windows in his house.
Starting point is 01:29:32 And he comes to Royal Port Rush in 2019 and finishes T-11. And that's only because he finished on Sunday with a 75, probably killed somebody after that. This guy's just gaining anger and confidence as he goes along. It's like a Pixar character where like he's just eaten up all the bad times and all the good times and he's getting bigger and stronger and his monstrous body is getting bigger and he's just overtaking the world. Then 2020, we didn't have one because of the war of COVID. We just didn't have a fucking open.
Starting point is 01:30:03 And then 2021 at Royal St. George's, he finished his T3. Should have won the fucking thing. So the reason I bring up his history is because he's progressing towards the top. He's been doing this whole career. He's been around since 2016, but he's really on the scene in 2020, 2020. 2019. This guy is here to win. I can picture him holding up the claret jug. I can picture the fucking buildings behind him and him in like that nice dusk lighting of him just winning the fucking open. And we're all going crazy at this guy's still the best golfer on the planet. John Rom,
Starting point is 01:30:38 no doubt about it. He is going to win the open. Send it to me when it happens. I want to be right. That's a good pick. But I was hoping we were going to go John Romless so people would freak out. Yeah, I can't. You can't. Nobody picked the best player in the world by a pretty wide margin, although Collins is right there. Like, I was hoping nobody would pick him. But again, it's a good pick because he's John fucking wrong. He's John Rahman. I mean, the guy's, the guy is allergic to finishing outside the top 10 in majors. Allergic. It's crazy. We've read, we've read, we've read the breakdown of his majors finishes. The fact that he doesn't have 10 major wins at this point is
Starting point is 01:31:17 is insane. He's, he's been one or two strokes off like six times. The guy is, he's unbelievable. He's a problem. That guy's a problem. He is a problem. Trent, do you know who's next or no? What? Well, we're done. We're done, right? Okay. I was like, you threw me a curveball there. Who, who would have a prediction? I have a prediction that the number, the most common comment left on any of our graphics and social from these predictions will be, Way to go out on a limb there, which is one of the most preposterous things I ever hear and it always drives me crazy because there's nothing that constitutes that you're supposed to go out on a limb. We're just trying to predict who's going to win the tournament. Correct.
Starting point is 01:31:59 I mean, you also said Tiger Woods. I said Victor Hovlin. I mean, Trent said that Morcawa is going to win two fucking majors this year. I think that's kind of on a limb. And it's pretty crazy. Like if you look last year, I mean, Hedeki Matsuyama, Phil Mickelson, John Raham and Kalamoraka. Like you get a little bit of a mix of everything every time with these things. My, I did just, I came up with three or four names that I was like, once I came up my own
Starting point is 01:32:23 predictions before we did the show that I was like, it was hard for me to leave them off the major list. And you guys covered every one of them. It was obviously John Rom, really hard not to pick him. Colin Morikawa, incredibly hard for me not to pick him. Patrick Cantlay was on my list and Victor Hopham were on my list. Those were guys I had slotted in and I had to take them out. So it does feel, you know, like that's sort of the trend as these eight names or so.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Most of them are in the top eight or ten. But yeah, I mean, it's also exciting because all those players, I think, are fun to watch, have cool storylines, are pretty young with the exception of Tiger Woods. So, yeah, it's be a good major year. People are going to probably say way to go out on a limb. But the chances are we go 0 for 12. Yes. pretty damn close to positive
Starting point is 01:33:14 that we're going to go over 12 I think it's like a 95% chance we go over 12 yeah it's it's far better odds that we are going to go over Just think about it let's say we pick the favorites or close to the favorites in most of these majors
Starting point is 01:33:28 Those are still what like 10 to 1 12 to 1 pre-tournament pre-majors Like they're not giving it's not like Some maybe one guy would be like 5 to 1 So it's still not, it's not one-on. It's not an obvious answer. It's not. Right.
Starting point is 01:33:45 I wonder if you took all the actual betting odds from the Barstville Sportsbook for every one of our picks, I wonder, and you put like 100 bucks on every single one of them. I wonder what the actual plus minus would end up being out. Right. Because unless it's, unless it's just like plus, then everyone's an idiot that says way to go out on a little. Like, there's probably no chance we would like, you know what I mean? I wonder we could do that math. I wonder how hard that would be.
Starting point is 01:34:08 We have to contact some people at the sports book, see if we can figure that out. Those people just see big names and think like, oh, good, good guess, but they just, but like chances, the chances are, they're definitely not going to win the tournament. I'll go out on, I'll go out on one limb. I'll go out on a limb. I'll say that our guy, Harry Higgs, is going to win a golf tournament this year. Love me. Yes. That's my, I think that guy, I don't know if his brain can compute not winning one this year.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I think his brain mind, wait. his I think his golf mind is way too expansive and way too dedicated to this sport to be able to just he's gonna compete this year man he's he's going through swing things and swing changes and him and his caddy
Starting point is 01:34:56 his brother it's just the whole story behind it he's progressing he had a bad year he had a good year he doesn't know where he was at he's ready to fucking compete we saw it in his eyes He talked to us for like two hours at the Taylor Made Media Day, and we just saw this guy is the real deal.
Starting point is 01:35:14 He's got the mind of a fucking winner, and he's just got to put it out on the course, and I think he's going to do it. I think this is the year that Harry Higgs wins a fucking PGA tournament, and we all go crazy for him. I love it. I've got a prediction. I'm going to say our guy, Max Homa,
Starting point is 01:35:29 enters the top 10 in the official world golf rankings this year. Wow. Where's he is right now? He's currently 35th in the world. He's won twice. believe in the calendar year of 2021 because he won the at Riviera
Starting point is 01:35:45 with Tiger Woods and then he won Fall event and I just think he's going to do it. I think he's going to win a couple more times this year. His play is going to be that good that he will crack the top 10 in the official world golf rankings at some point this year. Look at our guy Sam Burns in the top 10.
Starting point is 01:36:03 I'm looking at the list right now. We love Sam Burns. I just didn't expect him to see him all the way up there. What do we think about Scotty... Sorry. What do we think about Scottie Sheffler this year? Had a great Ryder Cup. Took down the number one player in the world.
Starting point is 01:36:18 Took down the number one player in the world. He's got that it factor also out there. Man, it's hard to see to not see Sky Schaeffler being in contention for a major this year also. I agree with that. That guy fucking stood on the putting green for 45 hours at the Ryder Cup to work on his game. Made us wait. I mean, Trent almost passed out waiting for this guy to stop practicing. I was so ready to leave.
Starting point is 01:36:39 I wanted to leave so bad. I was just like, this guy is not in the mood to talk to three fucking podcast media idiots. He is at the Ryder Cup. He was on that putting green hour and a half, two hours. Honestly, we stood there forever. I'm glad we stayed because it was good to see him.
Starting point is 01:36:56 But yeah, he's the guy who clearly wants him. He is number 13 in the world right now. Yeah. He'll get top 10, no problem this year. I want the top 10 to be filled with our guys. Yeah. Well, when we start golfing with guys like Rory Macaroid and all these guys, it's going to be pretty easy. It's easier.
Starting point is 01:37:13 It gets easier. Where do we think that Kevin Kisner is at in his life? I've been thinking about him recently. Like, where's, he's 37 years old, you know, probably not his favorite year finishes, right, for Kevin Kisner. I mean, at the end of- He got a win. He did get a win. He did get a win.
Starting point is 01:37:33 I'm just saying, we know Kevin, we know Kisner. Like, I wonder where he sees his career right now. He's obviously round and third base or like where does he see himself, right? Like where are his expectations going into this year? I'd love to know. Has it changed since we talked to him in that historic phone call of what was that, 2018, 2019 when we talked to him about what he thought his finishes were going to be. Like has he gotten worse?
Starting point is 01:37:56 Does he like his game? I'd love to talk to kids again before this season. I have no inside information, but I just feel like he's got to be pretty happy overall, I would imagine. He's just like a rich, really good golfer coming off a year where he won. He hates when he doesn't do well, though. I know.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Everybody, I know what you mean. But like, if you're, and I don't know if he would be able to look at it this way, but if you zoom out a little bit, he's 37. That's, that's really not that old, especially for a golfer. And he's, like I said, coming off a win, he's made a ton of money. He's, people love him. The internet loves him. He seems, I would hope that he's in a good place because I think he's doing pretty well for himself.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Oh, there's no one in a better actual mindset. than Kevin Kisner on the planet. That's not what I'm saying. I'm attacking this upcoming season. It's like a baseball player where he's like, fuck, I don't know if I'm going to hit 300 this year. I don't know if I have that in me anymore. Is Kisner at that level yet?
Starting point is 01:38:49 Or does he still have a fire? No, he's got the fire, man. I think he's very much got the fire. I think the Ryder Cup stuff fires him up. I really do. I think he takes a lot of that stuff, like personally not in a negative way towards anybody on the team, but I think he wants to be respected.
Starting point is 01:39:05 He knows he can win tournaments out there against the best players in the world. He had chances. Like those couple years ago, man, at the British Open and at the PGA championship, he had multiple legitimate chances to win major championships. Those were only a couple years ago. He's at the tournament of champions this week. So, yeah, there's always the funny kids mindset of like, I'm here to collect a paycheck.
Starting point is 01:39:25 I can finish 20th and make, you know, a million dollars. And it's great. But I think it does fire him up. I think, too, I mean, he's got another in his mind, probably another like five, six years where like he could make a real play. push and really get out there and try to win some big, big events. I think that's, I think that's what drives him. So yeah, I think he's still into it.
Starting point is 01:39:44 I think he's a prideful motherfucker. I mean, we've heard him. He chirps as hard as anybody. He's got that, you know, that little chip on his shoulder. He's an athlete, right? Like he fucking loves Georgia and football and sports and him being like a top level, you know, golfer in the world, being able to compete with these people. I think that's going to drive him for a while.
Starting point is 01:40:04 He works hard on his body. Like he's down with JT. a lot, you know, grinding on his swing. So I think that fire is still there for kids, for sure. But yeah, I mean, he's got a couple young kids, you know, it's like, imagine it's, it's, that definitely factors in and it always will. So I wouldn't even be surprised, right? Like, kids could be an iconic. I see kids as an iconic champions tour player someday. Like, I feel like he could go out there in his 50 to 55 and just keep raking in money, like a, like a Jim Furek or something. I feel like he would love that shit. He's, he, he's, he's, he, he's, he's, he's, he's,
Starting point is 01:40:37 He's already like a, he's a cult hero. Like the exposure he's got on this podcast. Like he's, he's big. Like, I feel like like the mainstream. Like, I don't know if my, well, my mom knows who he is because of me. But like, people know who he is in like a very cool way. I don't know how to describe it. But like, he's obviously a great golfer, one of the top in the world.
Starting point is 01:40:59 But he's also this figure in the golf world that is a very cool thing. And I wonder if he probably likes that, I would imagine. But it's just he's a different type of cult hero in my eyes. Yeah, totally. And you say 37 is not old, but golf is fucking strenuous, man. That schedule is insane. You look at these other sports. And when these guys are starting to get 37, 30, 39, obviously coming to the end of their careers,
Starting point is 01:41:22 it's amazing that we think of golf as like, oh, he'll play until he's 50. He'll play like Phil Mickelson. He'll play until he's 55, 60, they'll just keep playing. Bro, these guys play. They show up to, we've talked to Pat Perez about it. I've talked to all these guys. It's a fucking grind week after week. showing up on Monday, practice around,
Starting point is 01:41:38 practice around Tuesday, proam Wednesday, they show out on Thursday, then they have four days of competition, and then like you're flying all the place. I think Cald Morikawa in one interview, maybe it was with me where he was like, I think I had like 20 days off this year, where it's just you never stop.
Starting point is 01:41:54 There's just, there's no days off. And you think of any other athlete, hockey. I mean, when you're a 37, 38 year old hockey player, you're like, I've got one year left maybe of doing this fucking shit. I got three kids at home, my wife at home, I'm done. Like, I've given my, I've given everything to the sport. It's amazing we think of golf as like, oh, they'll play forever. They'll just keep doing it.
Starting point is 01:42:14 Which then he makes it even more amazing what Tiger Woods is doing. With all the stuff he's been through and just like, he could just easily give up. A kidzer could just give up and his life is done. Set. Perfect. Never has to work a day in his life. His kids never have to work a day in his life. He's fucking happy as shit.
Starting point is 01:42:29 But he's going to go out there. He's going to grind for like 10 more years and just try and win fucking tournaments. It's amazing. Golf really is amazing in that aspect. Yeah, and not everybody has that forever, right? Like, you're right, Frankie. And that, you know, I don't know that kids will want to have a Kalamorekala, like, schedule and only have 20 days off. In fact, I know he doesn't.
Starting point is 01:42:49 Like, he wants to go hunting and fishing and hang out with his kids and drink beers and, like, not have to focus 100% on, you know, being as healthy as he can, being as in shape as he can, flying from this venue to that venue, seeing the course, like, you know, putting up, do we do it? That is an absolute grind. And if at some point, I can't blame anybody for just being like, you know what? I don't want to grind that fucking hard. So, yeah, I'd be curious. I mean, I imagine we'll just get him on the show and fucking talk to him. But I'd be curious his thoughts on that. And, like, he also could go into media and have a great media career, whether it's with us or whether it's on one of the, you know, a golf broadcast or whatever.
Starting point is 01:43:23 So he's going to have a ton of options, which is cool. But he's also 37. We're talking about him like he's 50 occasionally. So it is weird where it's like, he could in his own mindset be like, yeah, a couple more he's up and I'm out of here. Or he could be like, I'm going to play. like golf for another 15 years. It's really like up to him, which is what golf, what makes golf really cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:42 Rory Macros put up an Instagram video of him saying, saw everyone else talking about the new stealth driver and I thought I'd give it a try. I think I'll keep it in the bag for the season. And it's just him roasting a driver down the middle. I saw that while one of you was speaking. I pulled that up on Instagram and I almost came myself watching it. Oh my God. It's so good.
Starting point is 01:44:01 It made me want to go to the driving range so badly and stand far away from the ball. like he does and just rip at it with a driver. Speaking of coming. Okay. I came hard last night because of McCar. Did you guess this is a hockey podcast? Trent, have you seen this? You had to have seen this on the Twitter.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Yeah, where he does like he stops and he goes. The spinnerama. Yeah. Have you ever seen anything like that? Have you ever seen a sport move more beautiful than that and then the finish to tuck it top titty right there over fucking Mark Andre Fleary's fucking shoulder? Trent, what did you think of that as not a hockey? guy.
Starting point is 01:44:35 Well, getting the sense from the podcast right now, I feel like I'm not appreciating it appropriately. I thought it was a good clip. I thought it was great. But I feel like, like when you're talking top titty and all that, like I, you're, you're speaking a different language. It was a sweet move for sure. He's on ice skates, man. He's on,
Starting point is 01:44:52 no, I know. Blades of steel. And he's whipping himself around like that. Did you see the snow he produced from that fucking stop? I mean, he sent, who was that to brinket? Who did he send? whoever he sent Kirby Doc
Starting point is 01:45:07 Doc, Kirby Doc, he sent Kirby Doc past the James Webb telescope. He's now floating somewhere in another stratosphere
Starting point is 01:45:15 of our galaxy. He's never to be seen again. Kirby Doc is never to be seen again. And overtime, three on three, you let that guy do that to you? Are you fucking insane? It's one of the best,
Starting point is 01:45:24 it was one of the best in-game moves I've ever seen. It was incredible. What I really enjoyed most about it as a St. Louis blues fan, just watching the Blackhawks look pathetic, was fantastic. Like 77, Kirby, he like, he just, he, he, he like skated through the boards and didn't
Starting point is 01:45:42 even realize that, like, the car was just gone. And then was it Flurry that was in net for that? Yeah. Flurry, I mean, he put a little juke on Flurry. Flurry, like, slid to the other side of the zone and he just, a short side top titty to him. And I just, I took so much pride and enjoyment and watching the Blackhawks get embarrassed like that. Um, uh, uh, I, I, I love the, the, the Colorado Avalanche, obviously it's tough because they're up against the blues all the time, and that's going to have to be a battle we're going to have forever. But outside of the blues, I always love that the avalanche. I like that they were the Colorado Avalanche. I like their jerseys originally when they went, whatever it was, 96, when they moved from Quebec.
Starting point is 01:46:19 So they've always liked the Aves. And then when Taser went there a couple of years ago, I always like talking about the Aves. So I root for the Aves. So watching them embarrassed to Chicago Blackhawks, that clip, that clip was awesome. And that's so hard to do to spin like that, that quickly against an in it. HL player and leave them in the dust. That's like unheard of. And the handles for a defenseman are psychotic.
Starting point is 01:46:40 So, I mean, they've got quite the team over there. Devon Taves. I heard Devon Taves is ruthless to you via Twitter, via text. When the blues to the avalanche. He's like, mean to you. He sends them to me all the time. I'm like, I can't believe he does this. Yeah, he's mean to me.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Like when they, yeah, he's mean to me. And like when I tweet about anything avalanche related and like it doesn't work out in my way, he just buries me. and then like text me about it. So yeah, he, like, he's such a nice guy though.
Starting point is 01:47:10 The avalachalue beat the blues and he'll text Riggs and be like, you're pathetic. It's just like, it's unbelievable. It's like Riggs is the first person he thinks of post win against the blues, which is amazing. Dude, he sent one time when they beat the blues,
Starting point is 01:47:24 he sent me like a Tiger Woods gift right after the game of Tiger, like fist pump in after they won. That was like he was in the locker room still. I think he still had his fucking cup on his dick and he sent me that. gift of Tiger winning but he's such a nice guy that he'll do this chirp me I you know me I don't just cave I chirp him back and then it always comes full circle to him being like Riggs I really hope you and your family are doing really well how is your little nephew and I'm like fuck fuck you but like he's really good he's cute
Starting point is 01:47:51 thank you for asking like he's the man he's the man I miss that fucking guy on the islanders dude then like the team misses him too it's crazy he's such a good talent he likes my tweets sometimes. That's the extent of my relationship with... He loves Trent Daddy. Dude, the whole NHL loves Trent Daddy. I gotta get Trent Daddy to another Islander game. It was amazing when they were all looking at them sitting there in the first row. They were starstruck. It was like
Starting point is 01:48:13 Spike Lee at a nick game. Trent Dad was on the glass and they were all... There was murmurs on the bench about Trent being in the building. I'll go to a game whenever you want to go to a game. I had a lot of fun when we went. All right. I also have to say
Starting point is 01:48:29 that the blues I know the Rangers are getting a lot of traction for being a wagon and all that. I mean, St. Louis Blues might be the best team in the NHL. They're phenomenal. Phenomenal. They won the Cup, obviously, two years ago. I think it was Rick Tocket, who just said recently, like, anybody who's not paying attention to St. Louis Blues is a Stanley Cup winning team this year,
Starting point is 01:48:48 is just not paying attention to hockey. They're built for a seven-game series. I think that's correct. So as a Blues fan, they're 7-1 and 2 in their last 10. Could not be more excited about the San Luis Blues. Yeah, hockey's tough right now. The Island just haven't played in, like, a month. it's getting crazy all these games are getting canceled they were the guinea pigs of the
Starting point is 01:49:05 covid era of 2021 um they got like they had to play six games with six players out they lost all those and now they're suspending games so it's a real nightmare but with the full roster the non-covid affected islanders they're they're the same team they were last year man if you're really looking closely nine points in nine of the last 11 they've won like four in a row at home they are just playing that boring quote unquote hockey where they're just pummeling guys in the fucking offensive zone and just and just wheeling it around the offensive zone not getting any shots on net just tiring out the defense finding a way to squeak by one or two and they're winning games so yeah i mean the rangers are a problem for the my whole life i've always said that i think i like
Starting point is 01:49:50 watching the rangers lose more than i like watching the islanders win so to see them have some success is scary. I will say that they're like 17 and oh against lottery pick, lottery pick teams. So maybe when it comes down to like when they play actual competitive games, it's going to be a little bit different than them winning every single night. But I'm not going to take anything away from them. They're playing well and welcome to the league. It's been like five years that the Rangers haven't been involved in this NHL season. So it's nice to see them back. And sure, they're just staying healthy. It hasn't become a, it hasn't become a who's better than who. It's become a who can stay healthy compared to who. That's what it's become.
Starting point is 01:50:24 So we turn the mics off five minutes ago. Like I got this is like a, I felt like a peek into your room like at night when we don't record. Like you're just like, yeah, welcome to the fucking league. Rangers guy. He had been good in five years.
Starting point is 01:50:40 It's just like talking to nobody. It's just like injury competition right now. It's just an injury competition. At one point you stopped looking at the camera and you were just looking off. And I really think Riggs and I could have left and nothing would have changed. It's like we used to do a show with cousin Mike and Merr. Oh yeah, it would do. Just one question and then you just log off.
Starting point is 01:50:59 I used to love doing that on the Barsal radio show when I was a producer for Dave. We used to do, Rick's was the host too. We used to, when cousin Mike would go on rants, we'd just go to commercial for two and a half minutes. And we'd come back and he'd still be talking. And as a listener of that, it had to be so fucking funny and unique. We were just talking about that in Arizona, just how good that radio show was. how different it is. Like all the cast of characters on Barcelona
Starting point is 01:51:28 Radio, that original one back in the old office where it was just 12 to 2, and everyone was on high alert in the office. Who's going to get called in? What kind of drama do we have? Is it Smitty versus Nate? Is it office manager, Brett versus Dave? Is it, who is it?
Starting point is 01:51:43 Who is it? Who's going to get it today? And then all these fights that Rico Bosco calling in, no one knew what his face looked like. No one knew who he was. And you'd play his music whenever he thought he'd be wronged. And then something about Larry, King would come up and then all of a sudden I'd take the phone call inside the inside the producer's room and they would be Mike Portnoy and I'd just hit the law and order
Starting point is 01:52:02 music and then mid-conversation Dave would just be talking and you hear do-dum-dum-dum and Dave just goes my dad's on the line like this it was so such a unique show where music played a role into who entered the room I used to take such pride in that where I you have to visually without visually showing what's happening it's a radio show I had to figure out a way to make people know what was going on outside the office. And that was by playing music associated with that person's personality. And we had so much fucking fun with it. Oh, my God. As an outsider of that, like that show, that original show, it was from 12 to 2, 2, you had to be focused on Twitter. You had to be focused on the office. And you just had to get to 2 p.m.
Starting point is 01:52:44 If you could get to 2 p.m., you'd be fine. But if you did not make it through 2 p.m., that rest of your day, all the way up until basically noon the next day when hopefully somebody else, would get dragged, you were fucking miserable. You shot a pit in your stomach. You get in those crosshairs. It was awful. Frankie was the grim reaper. He'd come out to the blogger area and be like, hey, Smitty, can you jump in the radio room for a second?
Starting point is 01:53:04 And it's just like, God, damn. Any time, who was, whose ever name it was? Like Reg's just saying, you would be, like, thankful that it wasn't you. But one, at some point, it's going to be you and you just go in there. And Frankie's like, hey, Trent, could you just hop in there really quick? And you're just like, God, damn it. And I just come out and I would smirk at you. I'd like laugh and like, dude, I got to bring you in here.
Starting point is 01:53:21 And people under the breath of like, motherfucker, frank, you fucking piece of shit. Just don't fucking even look at me. Yep. And Nate, I remember I used to walk at, and Nate goes, go back in your room.
Starting point is 01:53:32 He'd see me like meander out. He'd be like, go back. Don't, I don't want to be brought in. He's also the one guy who would say no. He'd be like, no, I'm not going in there.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Oh, yeah. And I'd go back and say, Dave, Nate's not coming in. He goes, you tell Nate he has two seconds to come to this room. And he'd fucking mozian on in there. I'd be like,
Starting point is 01:53:46 why? The best. So good. All right, boys. We got a little bit of island golf this weekend, tournament of champions. Pretty much they go out. They collect a paycheck. They play a beautiful golf course. Always fun to watch because around the country, it's called it, middle of winter, January, post-holiday gloom, all that. And you get a little PGA tour golf for the first time. I saw Patrick Cantley hasn't played tournament golf in like over
Starting point is 01:54:08 a hundred days. I think Rom hasn't played since the Ryder Cup. I believe he hasn't played either. So it'd be nice to see some of those big names out there playing again. We'll be back on Tuesday. We got more videos from Banda Dunes from Taylor-Make golf, all that stuff. We're going to be rolling out in the next few weeks, the next few months. So a lot to look forward to. I think that's all I have. You guys have anything else? I've got a couple.
Starting point is 01:54:33 Well, first, to that point of guys not playing Dylan DeCherer tweeted out the other day, Bryson DeChambeau, Patrick Cantlay, Daniel Berger made a combined zero PGA tour starts in the entire fall. And then Rom, DJ, Speeth, and Phil Mickelson had one each. we do talk about like these guys not having off but they definitely do take their spots um some guys more than others obviously like you didn't see more Kyle on that list or whatever but at the end of the day like these guys are um ready to rock now it's truly the beginning of the season and it's going to be fun to watch them tee it up because you haven't seen these guys in months which is fun um aside from that i do want to say about youtube well i want everyone to subscribe to the youtube page
Starting point is 01:55:16 and then also to this podcast, unsubscribe, resubscribe, leave five-star reviews. We've seen that that does a massive improvement in our rankings and all this stuff, and we know that other shows do this, so let's just do it for ourselves. Go leave a five-star review, say something nice to filter out all the fucking psychopaths on there that just want us to die and kill ourselves. And then YouTube, Trent and I, and then we're going to try and get more people in the mix. Rigsie can maybe try and get his Xbox set up. We're going to do that whole in one challenge, man.
Starting point is 01:55:48 And we're going to figure that out hopefully within this week or I don't know when, but I want to do it soon. So keep an eye on for that. We're going to try and make a hole in one. And then we're going to donate all the money that gets donated in that crazy super chat on YouTube to the first tea program. So try and raise a lot of money for the first tea and then try and make a whole one. Last time it took 16 hours. Great.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Sounds like good. Well, if you get two, you know, one or two more people in the mix, hopefully cut that time. That's true. That's true. And I'll know what's coming. Last time we did it, Frank, he sandbagged me and he made me do it for longer than I thought. We were four hours in and I just tweeted out, we're going all night. And Trent was like, I'm not prepared for that.
Starting point is 01:56:31 I think you said, like, if we get 2,000 likes in this video or whatever, we were like 1,500 off. And I was like, there's no way this is happening. And then I think Dan Katz got involved. I think Kevin Clancy got involved. I think, you know, some of the heavier guns got involved. and it happened in a millisecond and that was a long night. But I'm going to know that it's coming this time. I'll get the rest that I need and it's going to be a good time.
Starting point is 01:56:54 I don't think it'll take as long as time, but we'll see. No. Well, everybody, enjoy the golf this weekend. We'll be back next week. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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