Fore Play - A Saturday Tuesday Show

Episode Date: May 2, 2023

We record on Saturday, and Michael Sweeney with an incredible story joins (01:55:05), so this one’s fun. The Islanders’ season is over; will Rory apologize in Charlotte; how did people entertain themselves 130 years ago; NHL video coach Aron Augustitus (01:38:43) discusses challenging replays; plus we take a few From The Galleries.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Sad day on the four plate podcast. We're incapable of doing a podcast not at the normal scheduling time and not talking about it. So we have to talk about it. So we're recording on Saturday, which is the day after the New York Islanders have been eliminated in horrific fashion. I know that's top of mind for really probably everyone on the show because it's top of mind for someone on the show so much. It's just a sad day. It's a sad day in the four play universe. I was rooting for the islanders big time.

And you just hated to see it go down that way, Frankie. It's fucking devastating. There's really no other way to talk about it. It's a devastating day. It's been devastating for 29 years of my life. I live and die with this team. The highs and the lows. The highs are high, even though it's round one.

And the lows are real low, like real dark low. Last night was a weird, weird dark night leaving you. Yes. Throughout a lot of the season, I really felt like there was no chance this year. A lot of injuries. They didn't play well. They went on like crazy losing streaks. They were out of the playoffs for 70 to 80 percent of the season felt like. And then all of a sudden they just like surge back. And, you know, they get Boer Horvatt and like the island is rocking and they make the playoffs on game 82. And it's just like, wow, things are happening. Carolina has a bunch of injuries. You're like, this is a perfect setup for the islanders. They avoided the Bruins, which in hindsight. We'll see what happens with that, but they're going to game seven. But, um, and it's just like they outplayed Carolina for a lot of the games. Game two, they blew a lead late in the third. A puck was off fucking Seroquan's head, miss a high sticking call. And then they fucking lose an overtime.

They lose an overtime in game six. It's one of those series where it's like it could have went either way. And that's really frustrating. Last night, the Islanders fucking dominated for 40 minutes. I don't know if you guys watched, but they, I watched the fucking, they were, they were controlling that game. and they just couldn't get more than one goal. And when they went to the third up one, nothing, I said,

this is a classic case of, you wish you got more than one. Like, Carolina is on the road in a game that they want to close out, and they're in the locker room in between the second and third being, like, we survived. Like, we survived the push. And, like, we just need to get one, and it's ours. And that's what happened.

I mean, Seroca made 39 saves. Everyone's going to talk about the last one. The last one's a shit fucking goal. But if it wasn't that one, it was another one. Like, he made some outrageous saves. in the third period that was like you should have lost the game three one at that point um yeah it's really fucking tough i love this team and uh i love this like squad and i don't know if this is like the last hurrah for a couple of guys yeah who's who's up contract wise there's a lot of guys

scotty mayfield's a free agent and fucking like you know clutter bucks coming down the last years of his deal and bailey was getting scratched it's just like that core we might see a different like team next year whether that's good or bad i don't know um Zach Parizzi might like hang it up. They said he was like staring at his skates. He wouldn't take his skates off all night. Like in his lot in the locker room, guy played like over a thousand games.

The NHL is fucking awesome. The fact that how much he cares about this team. So yeah, sad fucking shit, man. Sad shit. You could take a little solace in the fact that, uh,

the New York Rangers are on the break of elimination. So that's, I imagine you've shifted your focus. We'll see. This show's coming out Tuesday. It's tough. It's tough to talk about games that are going to happen. You know,

like the Bruins. If the Rangers lose all is good for me. It's just another year that like, we didn't, win, which is the same that's been for me for 30 years, the same that's been for the Rangers for like 86 out of the last 87 years. So we'll see what happens. I think the devil should be able to pull it off. This is probably going to be played back for people where the Rangers just completely just ramshack the devils in two games and they go on to win the Sal Lake Cup. But if that happens,

I win $26,000 in the Barstall sports folks. So that's fine. So yeah, so people, folks know, we're, uh, we talk a lot about the travel. We got Barstow Classic and Palm Springs on Monday. we've got the USGA trip coming up for Jonesy and Alex Bush. They're going to do basically U.S. Open and U.S. Women's Open Media Day at LACC Monday, Pebble Beach on Tuesday. They're going to be out there capturing all kinds of stuff, drone footage, whole by whole, all kinds of cool stuff that we're going to release. The women are playing the U.S. Open at Pebble Beach for the first time.

I believe that's never happened before. So those guys are flying out Sunday. They're filming and playing the courses and they're going to come on the show next week. and the weeks around the U.S. Open weeks and talk all about that experience. The three of us, me, Frankie Trent, have, as we've rubbed, everybody's fucking face, has been able to play Pebble Beach, Dad Bob Classic, Josh Isner, the whole deal. So we figured this opportunity, send those guys. They're the ones that are capturing stuff anyways, and they've come such a long way

and there's absolute professionals at it. So, anyways, they've got a huge week coming up. So the reason we're recording Saturday beforehand, it's not like this is a huge week. It's the Mexico Open. Something crazy happens. We can obviously record a little bit on Monday and toss that in. to the show. And then we've also got this week, I know Dan Rababort's feeling under the weather, so we're going to get a quick update because you are debuting a new video series called Sidegig.

Yeah, I'm really, I'm really excited. In some ways, this is like, it's going to sound very cheesy, but it's kind of like the summation of my career thus far. Like, I've never, you know, this is the biggest project that I've done before. The concept, if people aren't familiar is basically, you know, it's kind of been a white whale for me always. It's like, you can interview guys at golf tournaments. And it's fun and it's cool. You know, you do it at the press conference. You can interview guys on the podcast, but I've always wanted to get like inside and be like out there with them for a couple hours, just shooting the shit. Because when you get on a golf course, you open up.

You know, that's just how golf works. It's their comfort zone. This is what they do. And these guys, you know, a lot of times when they're in the media, you know, after around there. People are looking for quotes. People are looking for headlines. But this is just a free flowing conversation. So I went down to Houston a couple weeks ago with Saif, the Gala, who did.

us a real solid by playing unbelievable at the Masters and then finishing, I think he was like third or fourth at the RBC Heritage. So, Solly's up to number 22 in the world. He's got a certain swagger and a certain energy. He's 22 in the world. Yeah, he's 22 in the world. He's moving up. He's a stuff. Yeah. And so we, we, we, I caddied for him in a friendly match against one of his buddies, who's a mini tour pro who actually played in the U.S. Open at Tori Pines, qualified. And, you know, saw that I go go pretty far back. So it's, it's, you know, it's, it's sort of an interview, but it's also a lot of the, the catty X's and O's conversations that people seem to love on social media. We get really nitty-gritty into, you know, I'm trying to hold an aid against this wind,

you know, I don't want to miss right of this pin, but I feel like it's going to skit that kind of stuff. But also we talk about, you know, his parents and their arranged marriage and his siblings and, you know, dealing with money. And it's a, it's a dream project of mine. And I'm really, really excited for everyone to see it. We're going to do a few more this year. So I'm sure we're going to learn from this one as far as camera angles as far as how it was shot um but really really excited to hit the ground running and i really hope you guys all check it out super exciting just new series is just great for our viewership our fans people that want to watch us doing different shit it's great and we're attacking we're attacking every angle of the game of golf you can go on our

youtube page and watch us play matches you can watch us do obstacle courses you can watch us break down guys like history and their families and you can do catty angles it's fucking we're hitting it from every single angle i think this week this week is a good example of sort of what we're doing. You guys are all doing your thing. The boys are going to play Pable Beach and LACC. I'm going to Charlotte for To Go Hollow, you know, to do my journalism thing. We're just, we're hitting it from all angles. And I'm really, really excited. So this side gig is going to be on YouTube, what, Wednesday night, Bush? You got a scheduling situation here? Wednesday night. All right, Wednesday night. I imagine we'll go 7 p.m. Side gig, Dan Rappapaport, saw Hitha Gala, who he's a star,

Full swing made him a star. He's playing great. He's ranked ahead of Tommy Fleetwood, Billy Horshiel, Jason Day, Justin Rose. He's ranked higher in the world than all those guys. So he's playing some fucking golf. I thought that episode in Full Swing when he was at the Phoenix Open and they were cut into like his dad who was all like rooting for him and then devastated when he had a couple bad holes down the stretch. That vaulted him into big time stardom. We've had him on the show a few times. And then for you to go down there and do that, it's going to be.

I'm very, very excited to watch. So, yeah, people will be ready for that Wednesday. All right, Dan, do you want to duck out for you sick? Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I also, well, I also wanted to say this is that this is a turning point and I want to be held accountable with my health and my, like, I've been getting sick way too often. I've been getting, I've been treating my body like shit, traveling, chewing tobacco, smoking, all of this shit. My body is tapping out. And I'm 28 years old. I'm too young to be like deathly sick.

I think I've been sick like three, like really sick three times this year, which is, and not COVID, which is just not okay. So I'm, um, it's almost like my body's, it's my body's teaching me a lesson. Yeah, the first makeup call was you guys talking about Tony Gwynn. And then this, things are, things are going to change. All right, Dan. All right, that's the guy, Saturday morning. That's the guy's struggling on a Saturday morning. That's, you know, that's just what you get with that. You know, we have been a part of the Chevy EV family. We got big news. And that is that the first ever all electric silver auto evi is out it's officially barstool's most valuable truck we got the chance to see it we had a cool little commercial we were in like a warehouse garage we saw the orange one the blue one the white one

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You're going to love playing with the different vehicles and the options that got. You're going to be blown away and all the lines of Chevy and all the brands that you've come to know and love that got them in the EV models. So go on over to Chevy.com to learn more. I don't know if we've ever done this show on a Saturday. What do you guys normally do on a Saturday? What's your Saturday? Is it Saturday right now? Dude, it's Saturday right now.

It was Sunday. People are going to be like, why, you know, but we just don't ever do a show on Saturday. So I'm kind of, I want to look inside. It's rainy. It's so rainy here on Long Island. But what do you guys normally do on a Saturday? You know, if I don't have golf scheduled, which when I live out here, I usually don't, because the courses are so jammed up. If you don't schedule something way in advance.

So I'll kind of mosey around. I went and got a coffee this morning, walked I got a coffee. I'll do a little bit of stuff around the place. I don't know, fucking clean stuff up, do laundry or something. the afternoon I'll probably saunter up over to Greyhawk, maybe get a beer, maybe hit a couple balls, maybe play nine holes with some of the staff up there. And then usually take it relatively easy. And the reason I take it relatively easy, I think, is because Thursday and Friday, you just go so hard. You're just so excited.

You're so excited to get there. And I just can't do like three or four days in a row like you used to be able to do when you're younger when you're in your 20s or something. So it's like Thursday night because with us, we front load our week. We do classics. We record the podcast usually Monday, Wednesday. we film videos by Thursday night. You're like ready to go. And then they just go too hard.

You kind of recover, but it's still Friday. People are excited. So you go Friday. Usually Saturday, I kind of chill at this point. Yeah. Usually Saturday for me is like, get stuff around the house done day. Get stuff done around the house day. We'll go to like Lowe's.

I'll take the lady to Lowe's and we'll go to like hobby lobby. I enjoy that shit. I talked about that couple shows ago. Like I enjoy like looking forward to the weekend and like adding things to the house or I'll go to like Best Buy, see if I can get some new tech. We just redid the front of the house with all the landscaping. So like just looking at that shit and like making sure everything looks good. And what can we order?

Can we order like low voltage lighting and start lighten up some of these, some of these plants? Just a bunch of boring fucking old man shit. And then I always have like something planned with friends like tonight. We got some people coming over just to have wine and watch the Rangers. Hopefully they lose. And the weekends are fun because our schedule is so crazy. When we're not when we're not traveling, almost every day feels like a weekend because

we're able to kind of be home. and do whatever we want. Yeah. But I really enjoy like when the nine to fiveers and the people who are actually doing real jobs when they have the weekend off. And it's like now we all can be excited about Friday night, Saturday, because they don't have to do anything tomorrow. It's always like I would love to do stuff on Sunday.

And they're like, oh, like I'm not traveling until Tuesday. I would love to do something tonight. And they're like, no, Saturday's our night. Saturday is the night to do it. So yeah, I'm excited. Tonight should be a fun night. The dirty little secret about getting older is that the trips to Lowe's and the trips to target those end up being pretty fun.

When you're young, you're just like, dude, I'm going to drink Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and probably Sunday. That's just what I'm going to do in my 20s. And you look at the people who are like as you're on your way to the bar, you see people pulling into lows and you're like, what's that guy's life even like? And then you get older and it's like you become interested in doing those things. And it's actually good to like, uh, fix up the house or like I clean up my apartment. I get everything organized.

And it's so when we do travel, I come back to a clean apartment. It sounds so lame. If you're in your 20s right now, they're like, these guys are 55 years old and they need to like get a real life. But you end up maturing into like, I kind of like going to Lowe's and looking at those flower pots.

Dude, I can't tell you how sick Target is. Target is awesome. Like that place, when you walk around there, dude, you go from one section and next, like you go to the home decor section and you just see a couple things and

you're like, that's going to make my place look kind of nice. And then you can just walk. walk from that section, two aisles over, and they have like TVs and fucking like sound bars and shit. And you're like, oh, that'll make my setup nicer. And yeah, you end up spending hundreds of dollars he didn't plan on spending. But if you just go to Target with no plan, like no real game plan even, you come out of there with some great stuff. And then it inspires you to keep your place clean. You go back. You sort of move stuff around. You're making it look nice. And then I don't know if you

guys do this we do like we talk about how much we travel i like to come back to a clean place like you're saying so i like to make my bed i like to like even try to wash the sheets scrub stuff down a little bit so that when i do return that moment and we're so all over the place it might be a fucking tuesday and it might feel like a friday where it's like dude from this tuesday that we just got back from a long trip till next monday i don't have to fly anywhere i basically am on vacation for five days like we'll do our podcast and all bullshit but like it feels like you're on vacation for five days when we're just home. Agreed. It's awesome.

And I'm like really in the thick of all this decorating stuff. We're opening up that new bar in Long Beach, the Burley's Tap Room. And I really have enjoyed like designing that because I, I love having a clean slate. I had a clean slate with the house. I had a clean slate with the bar. And like seeing like your idea come to life is one of the coolest things you can do in this life, I think, like regardless of what it is, whether you're painting, you're drawing, you're designing a house, you're designing a house, you're designing a

room, you're just like doing a renovation or restoration. Like being able to like see something and then do it is fucking awesome. And like you have all these crazy ideas. I'm like I want these vines on the wall. And I want to like, I went to Lowe's yesterday. I got these like bistro lighting. I'm like, wouldn't that look cool over like the new pizza oven? And like we're putting it up and we're like, it's like an aha moment. You're like, holy shit, look at that. That looks unbelievable. And you know that like people are going to come into the place and be like, that place is cool. And it all came from my brain. Like that's that's such a cool feeling. of like designing something that people are going to be like inside of it's very strange but a cool

thing um that's awesome yeah it's fucking it's so cool imagine what a golf course architect must feel like like if they if you design something and you go through all this grind and you move all this dirty and then like years later you just see people out there loving and appreciating and playing this great game on your golf course that you're oh my god i can't even imagine all the shots All the shots funneling off the green into a collection area. Like that's why we put that there. Or like a mound pushing balls off, like not getting onto the green if they don't have the right club. Like legitimately moving dirt to affect a guy's day is so cool.

If I were to design a golf course, I would and then put it into like where people can play it. I would be worried that I would have made one glaring mistake and people be out there shooting 63s. And I'd be like, why is this happening? Those guys put a ton of work into it. Once people are playing it, that's got to be a crazy feeling. You just put all the fairway bunkers like 30 yards not far enough. So everyone just hits it past them. Right.

Or people are shooting like even guys who are like one, two scratch or shooting 93s. And you're like, I fucked something up bad. Yeah. I don't know what it is, but I fucking blew it. God damn it. I got to give a shot at. So we went to, we were in San Diego on Thursday for the Varsal Classic. Incredible scene.

Everybody was pumped. It was a classic. San Diego day where it was fucking overcast in the morning, shit cold for like an hour and a half. And then by the hour and a half into the day, it was like 70 sunny bluebird day. It's also a Thursday event. You notice a huge difference. Like the Monday, the Monday events that we do, there's actually more almost excitement in the morning because you can tell people are hyped up. And then as you get through the day, yeah, people start drinking a little bit more.

And there's obviously excitement, hype, but people have a great time. But you can tell the scary start to kick in a little bit from people being like, this was the three-day weekend that I was excited for. I took Monday off work. And like the classics pretty much over. I'm about to like come crashing down. I got work in the morning, whatever. Similar with like Tuesday events. Thursday event is the beginning for a lot of people like we just talked about. So that Thursday afternoon at the San Diego stop at Maderas, which is a phenomenal spot, the whoop was high. People were, people were buzzing. We ended up doing the putting contest. These poor guys were lights out and then horrible.

and it was just a two-man race at the end. So we ended up just doing a boat race to decide who won the putting contest. So each guy just picked three guys because neither one of them were big drinkers. Each guy just picked three guys. And then they just did a truly boat race to see who ended up winning the whole thing. So the excitement level was incredibly high. It was an awesome crew. Everybody had a fantastic time.

And then I got to give a shout out. We on the show, we like to attack or shit on airline service when you get bad, whatever. I got to give a shout out too. there is a fantastic old Asian lady server at the Southwest Terminal in the San Diego Airport. And the San Diego Southwest Terminal is, by all intents and purposes, not a place that anybody wants to be. It's like a circular, one of those circular terminals with like six gates. And then not much to be like writing home about in the middle. It's kind of like a Hudson News thing and like a little pizza joint.

And then a small, tight bar. And the bar is a scene because you got the Southwest crowd. And again, everybody's packed in like fucking sardines, kind of miserable. And in that environment, you got to be on it to have a chance. Otherwise, you're trying to wait for your tab. You're going to miss your flight. People were in and out, whatever. This lady was one of the great servers of all time.

I was sitting there. Every time she would, a new person would walk up, she'd be like, can I get you a drink? What would you like? Bang, hit them with their tab as soon as she brought the drink to the point where after about 30 minutes, every person that showed up, I was like, you got to order something from this server. She's fucking phenomenal. And she was just on it.

And I know there's so many people that listen to this show that travel like we do, that this Southwest Terminal at the San Diego International Airport, you're going to know who I'm talking about. Go to the bar there and look for this little sweet old Asian lady who was fucking on top of it. One of the better servers I've ever seen in my life, which changes everything. It changes everything. It's a huge, huge asset to have someone like that that can just do all that stuff.

especially now we're like interviewing people for this new bar and you're like you just got to be good you got to you got to be better than what you think and that stuff like doesn't actually translate you just need this that old Asian lady that's there just knows it's like it's like it's ingrained in her she just knows how to do it better than anyone else you can't teach that she's born with it and she kept doing the it was great she kept uh after i i've this like Thursday evening so i ordered a beer and then she came by and i was like can i grab another beer and she's like oh you want one more And I was like, yeah. And then like 10 minutes later, she came back and she's like, you want one more and gave me like a little laugh.

And then by the time I got to like my fourth, she would come over and giggle and be like, you want one more? And I was like, yeah, one more. So she got it. She was awesome. So I recommend if you're in that area, if you're in that terminal, sneak on over to that bar. It was like one of the outer high top tables that was kind of a community table with like eight spots, you know. And go get a, go get a drink. Go experience that service because it was fantastic.

and life-changing. Another note that I wrote down, golf course trash cans are just too small. You ever notice this? Every golf course trash can you see is for whatever reason, one of those tiny little rinky-dink fucking trash cans

and they're always overflow. Always. It's not even close. It's like every time you see it, you go by, they're packed with truly cans, beer cans. And then if one person gets like a food item

that comes in one of those little, styrofoam boxy things, then the whole trash can situation's over. Because one of those things takes up the whole trash can and then everyone else that has one there just pile on them up. What's what? Where are the people that are just, just get bigger fucking golf course trash cans? I've never, have you ever seen one that's a normal size? Is it a trash can issue or is it a maintenance issue?

Are they not clearing out the trash cans? Well, my thing is that they're so small that I think you would need a army to handle Oh, are you talking about the little ones that are next to the ball washers? Yeah. The real little ones. Yeah. Yeah. Those are small.

Those are real small. Those are really small. And every time you drive by one, it's overflowing. Yeah. They're the standard. It's like comes in a package. Like golf course gets the ball washer and the little green thing that sticks in the ground. Yeah.

Those are way too small. They need to, they need to revamp the size of those things. If you left like a bunch of trash bags out there, I'd be happy to take that one out, play it next to it and put a new one in and then a guy who comes around he just grabs the the full one i'd be happy to do that yeah and you're putting the maintenance people who are behind the eight they have no chance they can't keep up with that those tiny little fucking things and they got they got all kinds of issues they're fucking running all over uh and then the other note i wrote down is there's a starter at maderos who brings the starting gig more fire to the starting gig than

anyone i've ever seen in my life and they at the beginning of a tournament shotgun start you know, it's very important where you go out and what order and the whole deal and the people lead you out. And we had one of the one of the caddy girls who I believe was, you know, she stands on like the Taylor Made, uh, fargiveness longest drive hole and she documents it and runs the show there and tells people they're going to do. So she was going the guy. We do the national anthem and they're like, all right, wait until the person that's leading your section goes out and you follow all the people. Everyone's like, yeah, no problem. And this girl gets in her cart and starts driving out.

because she's not part of the actual tournament. Well, the guy didn't know that. And this starter, I'm talking, she's lucky she got out of there alive. This starter immediately goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, and yelling. And it's, I mean, it's a quiet golf tournament. No one is making any noise in this guy, beelines down the car, and screaming at her.

I thought this poor girl believed she was about to be shot to death. I mean, it was an absolute seat. And this guy brought that kind of fire, the whole, the whole rest of the day. I mean, he was coming by, he was on top of people with pace and play. If there was like a four second gap between the first group and the group right behind them, he was going over, harper people on the tee. So I got to give shout out to that guy because he was just all over it with the starter gig, took it more seriously than anybody I've ever seen in my life.

And you've got to kind of have that if you're going to run a tight ship at a golf course. Is Madeira? Is Madar? Probably played with Nate shot. Is that that course? Yeah. I love that golf course. Awesome spot.

Jimmy Butler has that huge house overlooking? He does. A lot of those big. California homes. God, the taxes on those things must be outrageous in that house. You guys just ever go on Zillow and just like look around? It's awesome. I think I do that. That's just been like what I do now. Instead of going on Twitter and Instagram, I just look at Zillow.

Ever since I got a house, I like had to delete the app. Oh, true. Now you're looking at like, oh, what could we have got? Yeah, you just can't. It's not healthy. True. I still, I go on it all the time as a guy who's sitting in an apartment right now. It's great.

Yeah, that was like the funest times. It's so much fun. You're looking at a house that's like three million bucks and you're like, that's, I mean, I'm never going to get that. And then it gets sold and you're just like, all right. Or you like, you just judge the people that live there, like the way that they set it up, you know, like that wall doesn't need to be there and shit like that. Like, look how disgusting they made that living room.

I would never do that. I guess it's judge. Yeah, me too. And it's endless. You can look at, I look at Cedar Rapids or you just look somewhere in Montana or somewhere in Florida. There's houses everywhere and they're for sale everywhere. It's fun.

It's a very fun activity. I completely agree with that. If you go, like I'll even do it up near like band and dune sometimes and just look at places that are like on the cliffs of Oregon that cost a fraction of what a shoebox apartment cost to buy in New York City or in Scottsdale or whatever. So that is a very fun activity. So the Wells Fargo is next week. A couple things of note. We got to do the for the cut. We got to come up with that bad boy yet again.

A couple guys skipping. Scotty Schaeffer and John Rahm are skipping the Wells Fargo. It's a designated event. They're number one and number two in the world. It'll be the first skipped designated event for each player per the PGA Tour rules. Players are allowed to miss one designated event, but if they don't play more like McElroy has done this season and skipping two, which I'm sure he's going to answer to next week. They lose 25% of their player impact program earnings.

In McElroy's case, that was obviously the $3 million that everybody was hard. harping on um billy horschel tom hoagy russell henley justin rose lucas herbert and erin wise are also eligible top 50 players not playing the wells fargo this week i guess we'll probably hear from rory for the first time this week on the skipping of designated events that he's been getting a bunch of shit for yeah he'll have to talk about it and the more i hear about like the three million dollars the more like i just realize he doesn't give a fuck about that it's money that he doesn't even have in his bank account it's like money that oh i'm going to get two million instead of five okay You know what I mean?

It's like it's not, it's something that he's not, he doesn't have to write a check. No. So at that point, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It's all extra money. He's just like, I won five million and now I only get two of it. Okay. That's fine.

I just don't have to show up now. It's amazing. Yeah, I would imagine he's going to address and he's got help to say something about the schedule. Maybe like maybe next year it'll be a little different. I think even, I think Rom said this week, like he wish he had had more time. after winning the masters than going straight to the RBC. So he's going to say all the politically correct things

because that's what Rory does. But yeah, that $3 million, dude, doesn't even, right, you're not writing, you're not losing $3 million. You're just giving up money that you haven't gotten yet. Give him back house money. Right. Do you envision him using any sort of excuse or like an injury or like personal problems?

Or do you think he's just going to stick to just, you know, didn't feel right, needed the week off, tired? Yeah, I think he's going to apologize. guys, I think he's going to be like, I just feel like he's always honest and we always are impressed in these types of things with how he handles it. So I think he's going to come out and just be like, you know, I get it. I totally get the criticism. If I, if I were perfect, I would have just played. But like, I just wanted to get the hell out of there. I missed the cut. I just wanted to take a few weeks off and like, I probably shouldn't have done that or I get that that's,

you know, contrary or contradictory to a lot of the things that I've been preaching about. I think he's just going to kind of own up to it. That's my guess. Yeah. He might use the word selfish. It might be it was a selfish decision. I think that's, I think we're doing Rory McElroy press conference bingo, I think selfish is on there. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. I think that's like the number one draft pick.

He might spin it in a nice way where he's like, I just felt like I was going down a path where I wouldn't be Rory McElroy for the rest of the season and I owe it to the fans to like reset and like make sure that I got my game right and that my head was right. And now I'm ready to go for the rest of the season. I could see him like spinning it into like, I did this for you. Do you think on that same bingo card

does he mention the children? Yeah. That he disappointed. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if we're honest, Rob's kind of been burying him a little bit. I mean,

John Rom's been out there being like, I know that the kids want to see the Masters champion so I could never let them down. It's like, Rory had to be sitting at home reading that being like, Jesus Christ. Come on, John.

Yeah. Fuck. So, yeah, I think he might, he might mention. You might see Roy McRoy, like if this was the Sergio Garcia social media PR campaign, remember that after he had the bunker incident. And then like every post he had, it was like him with children and stuff. I think you're probably going to see a little Roy McRoy sign in some autographs next week at the Walls Parca. Oh, you're going to.

You're definitely going to see it. And again, he's not disingenuous, but this is just how you do it when you miss out on an event that, yeah, you were supposed to go to. Yeah. And look, Rory's been great throughout the whole thing. we love we're very very very very very very pro rory but you literally you simply deserve to get a little bit of shit when you pull um this kind of move i was thinking a little bit about it yesterday of like rory for the last year and a half has been everywhere everywhere always all at once whatever fuck that is he's been everywhere and he's gotten praise for that and i remember during the open and when he won

the fedex last year everyone's like i can't believe this guy has been able to shoulder this load he's been the guy talking and and lobbying with players and explaining them why the tour is doing this and that And then he's also winning. He's playing amazing. Every week, every day, it was like this new comment. Rory handled this question, this so properly. He's the greatest. We haven't fucking heard a word from the guy in like three weeks since the Masters.

That's, that's, we haven't seen it anything like that in the last year and a half. Yeah, true. Yeah, we're hearing from him daily like a whole year. Now we haven't heard from him. He's Rory everywhere. Maybe that's part of it too. That's what he's going to be like I just had to recharge the batteries. You know, I've been, I've been the guy.

He's not going to say that. But he's just, you know, he's got to recharge those batteries at some point, I guess. He's got to recharge. He's got to fucking recharge. Wells Fargo's awesome. Charlotte, the whole deal, Charlotte's a great town. We were there. Obviously, the president's cup was just there.

Big boy golf course. Tiger Woods always played it. It was always part of his schedule. So anything that was on Tiger Woods schedule has been elevated for the last 20 years as kind of a big boy event. Rory got the win there, Max Homa got his win there, that 18th hole with the whole creek and everything going up the left side, kind of an iconic hole. So it's a great event, great tournament, big tournament, a lot of big names, even though those couple guys are not going to be there. Rory will be there almost everybody in top 50 with the exceptional, like a handful of guys are going to be there. So big event, kind of the last, I think this is the last big one until the PGA championship, where this is, you know, this is going to be for a good number of players.

The last time we've seen anybody play before the PGA, Oak Hill. I believe Alex Bush, who's in the cloud right now, was playing golf right next to O'Kill yesterday, Bush. Is that right? Yeah, yeah, I went back home, had to do something back home, and then just played around, and they're all set up. I was playing at Rondicoit, and it's, you know, right on the other side of the trees from there.

That's where our event is, yeah. I even realize that it's that close. He's like, you could see all the tents. Yeah, you can see all the tents. Yeah, it's right there. What's that Wells Fargo? Oh, the Wells Fargo wagon is a coming down the street. I've never heard that.

Now, is that from the music man? Is that from the play The Music Man? Do they talk about the Wells Fargo wagon? Oh, the Wells Fargo wagon is a coming down the street. Oh, please let it be for me. You never heard that? No, I also don't. Now, is that an ad or is that from the Music Man?

I don't know why the Music Man is coming in my head. I think I was in the Music Man when I was in Fourth. grade at McVeigh Elementary School, but I'm pretty sure. So I watch TV and I see Wells Fargo ads and I don't know that one, but I have not seen the music man. So I don't know. Frankie just went away. You've been doing this last couple podcasts where you disappear and then you come back and

you're out of your mic. You might be back now because you disappeared again. It's a little bit like it's almost, I'm almost fear that it's a horror movie. And when you flash away, when it comes back, we like this moment, we don't know what's like anything could appear in that room at that moment. Are you back? I don't think so. You are.

Yeah. You're back. Dude, this might, I, I, I, fuck this thing up at Borrelli's. I, like, whatever we were doing, we were, we were hooking it up to like, we were putting it inside a plastic cup. And like, it must have just the way I did it. It does not hold anymore. This doesn't hold anymore. I fucked it out.

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From the music man? From the music man. Yeah. I just never seen that. It's come, it's from the music man, man. That's a show on Broadway. Yeah, dude.

It's made, It could have been. They sing about a movie. I'm going to. I guess so. That's how I remember it. It sounds like it had to have been a fucking,

are we allowed to play this or is this like for a little bit of it. Play it. For like 10 seconds. Yeah. Play it, dude. Fucking play it. The top comment on YouTube is this is how I feel after I order something off

Amazon. It's a great song. Let's rip it. You know what I got to get by the way? I'm going to get a record player. You guys talk me into that. You guys have record players, right? I do have one.

Yeah. I actually was thinking about it this morning because it's a rainy day and I can't go anywhere. Not that I really go anywhere anyway, but I was going to put on the record player, just play a couple Sturgle Simpson records and just hang out, dude. How nice is that, dude, with the rain, a little, ah, it's so soothing. I recommend it. And it's a cool thing. It's maybe a little lame that you're getting it because it's cool, but I got one because it's cool.

And then you buy records off Amazon. It's fun, dude. It's really fun. There's a little kid. He's got a little bit of a lisp. I remember that. He'd jump out and I remember that being a huge role in the McVeigh version of the music man. But yeah, you got to listen to him.

I hope I get my raisins from Fresno. The D-A-R and Santa Canon boy. Oh, yeah. Isn't it amazing how things can just sound old? Yeah. I just know if you would play that and we hadn't been talking about it, I'd be like, that's an old-ass thing. Well, why they used to talk like that? I'm going to go down here and I'm going to go to the bakery and I'm going to get myself some bread.

and then I'm going to come back. I'm going to give my wife a smooch and then we're going to sit down and we're going to watch the program. Like why did they talk like that? Why couldn't they just be like, yo, I'm going down here. I'm going to get this. I mean, maybe not yo,

but like, hey, I'm going to go get some bread. I'm going to come back. We're going to watch movies. We're going to have dinner. 1920s like Yankees broadcaster. Yeah.

Oh my goodness. Babe Ruth has done it again. We're here again. It's just like, what are you talking about, dude? People actually talk back that. It's just when they were in a play or when they were doing a Yankees broadcast.

I think they had to talk like that. No way. No, I don't think so, dude. I've watched too much old footage to know. No, I think it's got to be the recording just couldn't get it right. Like that there's no way. They definitely spoke like they were. No way.

I just think that was language. I think that was the English language back then. I think it was more proper. I think it was like, I think it just was very, very different. I think the way they spoke was like, I think it had a little bit of an accent. I'm saying, it had a little bit of an accent. an old accent. Away from the stage, away from the microphone, if I went to the store, are they going to be

talking to me like that? I think they'd be like, I think, I think it would, I think it would stun you. I think if you went in a time machine and you went to the Wells Fargo Center, whatever they had, and you said, I want to pick up my package, the way the person would speak to you would, would blow your mind. I'm pretty sure. I don't know. I, the, the, the, the, the, you could be like, hey, Trent.

I don't know. Yeah. Hey, Mr. Ryan. I know they would call me Mr. Ryan. Like, Mr. Ryan feels like very official. it felt very more like they'd be like we're going to go down there it just felt like Dan Soder says I'm gonna get me a car

white picket fence that can't be how they spoke I got myself a house a picket fence I just know I feel like everyone would be wearing like a nicer like a nice suit everyone wore suits everywhere and they'd be like Mr. Ryan welcome to the Wells Fargo I guess is that if that were staying with Wells Fargo Dude do you know how wild it is to think like people in like people in 1890 believed

that 1890 was the most futuristic modern time. Yeah, that's stunning. Yeah, ever. Like, they didn't know that they lived in 1890. They were like, this is it. This is the, we're in the future. Like, we have, there's like oil and trains and shit. This is crazy.

And we're like, we're like, dude, you lived in 18. Like, you're an ancient. Like, yeah, you're, no. Like, you're just too old. That's like antiquity, basically. And then people that lived in Rome in like the year 50 AD, we're like, This is it, dude. There's a giant fucking coliseum and an aqueduct.

And like, this is insane. And we're like, dude, that was 2,000 years ago. What were you guys doing? I've been on TikTok. We're in the future. You got to put yourselves in those shoes now and be like, what's, you can't know because it's impossible. But people are going to be saying that about us in 100 years, 200 years.

Yeah, they're going to be playing the shit. These guys are 100 years ago. Look at these ancient fucking people. What are they doing? It is true that this. podcast is going to pretty much live forever. The audio files live forever. Yeah.

That's bizarre. You want me to listen to? Yeah. First of all, if you're listening to this in that in 200 years, like what are you doing? Once the sun explodes, it's over. No, but that's going to take a long time. You think?

I think that takes like billions of years, dude. I think we're billions of years away from that. Dude, how about this, the James Webb stuff? That's so unsettling, though, that at some point, it's, it's inevitable for this to, end. I like, have people understood that? As everyone listening to this really grasped the fact that we factually know that this world will not exist at some point in the future. Like, there's no hope.

There is no hope for it to, for it to stay forever. It will. That's Elon's point is we have to, we have to find another planet. Like, we just don't have a choice like this. Right. Otherwise, not only will we be, like, like, all traces of all of this will just be gone. Like it just not even close to any salvageable trace that all of this occurred. Gone. Even if we've got like a billion years before it happens, we've got to figure out how to get off here and live somewhere else in that time frame. And we just have to build.

Think about how long it took to build all these cities and all this stuff. We just have to start from where we've really not that long. It didn't take that long. Relatively of time. It was like a fucking fraction. Like, think about, it's been like, I don't know, however far you want to go back, a couple thousand years and even that's pushing it. It's been a couple hundred years since things have really taken off. Think about a civilization.

A couple hundred. That can keep, keep things together enough that doesn't destroy itself. If it can go for a few, even a couple thousand years, a million years, who knows what sort of advancements you can have. But the problem always ends up being is it ends up destroying itself. So, yeah, 200 years. from now, if it all just goes to shit because we drop nuclear bombs on each other, then you've got to start all over again. I don't

think the human civilization is capable of keeping itself together for long enough to have an exit plan, is my guess. What if Mars just nuclear bombed itself? Yeah. Just like 10 billion years ago or something, you know what I mean? Like, just they fucking just, they just nuke themselves.

Dude, I was watching this YouTube video about the Mars, the latest Mars rover that's over there in this thing. And like, this thing's unbelievable dude what this what this guy does and how this guy like cruises around takes selfies takes like takes fucking scoops up samples and then has the technology within himself to study those samples and send the results like via radio signal back to earth and then there's another fucking thing that they're sending out there that is going to actually pick up

the stuff from this guy that this guy has been holding on to like some interesting rocks and stuff that this guy's been like you guys are going to have to come check these ones out and we're like sending a fucking another item there that in the next few years is going to get there grab some of this stuff that this guy says is interesting this rover guy and they're going to bring it back to earth and be like let's check this shit out how fucking crazy crazy crazy what are we talking about the thing we got to think about and i think i saw this on tic-tok i tick tock man it makes you think about things that you just you weren't thinking about I can't get away from the breastfeeding videos on Instagram Reels.

That's a personal issue. It's not a personal issue. I don't know when it started. It knows if you can't pause for half a second and it's going to be like this guy loves breastfeeding videos. Do you ever try to trick the algorithm? You ever try to trick the algorithm? I saw it. I saw it pop in there and I go now what the fuck is that?

And that what the fuck is that has ruined my my whole entire being on Instagram. My whole timeline. My entire thing is just T and A. Mine is exclusively today. I got to get golf. I got to click on some of these golf ones. You got to start watching just swings. What did you say on TikTok chat?

Oh, it was that the question of sort of what we were talking about before where if a civilization is able to keep itself together for, let's say a million years. That isn't us. That's someone else. Like the way we look at aliens now is, oh, did you see that UFO in the sky? I think aliens are here. But if there's a civilization that was able to keep itself around for a million. years that didn't destroy itself.

They're probably so advanced that we're, they've got, the guy could be staying right next me. We're talking technology that is just like, just not even, we can't think of it because we haven't been around that long. Like, if a civilization has been around that long, we, we think that they're going to show up and their spaceship is going to hover over Manhattan. No, dude, they're going to, they're just going to be in my apartment already right now, and I just don't know it.

They're on a communication level that's like a thing that you're not thinking about. We're thinking about it in our terms, though our terms are, if this exists, we're talking millions of years of advancement, you're not even looking for the right thing. Like they say are the human like I can't see all the particles that's running around. But like at some point, another civilization, they may have even been born with that ability or like they have possessed the technology to be able to like see that and interact with that and like be that. You know what I mean? Like be the particles. I mean, it sounds insane. That sounds like we're saying crazy. shit but like is it though isn't it crazy that we're all just fucking particles like we're not actually sitting down on our chairs right now we're actually floating you ever see you'll see you'll see videos no yep no particles can actually touch each other they don't touch each other we're not right like i'm not touching these these air pods or i'm actually not even touching these

you're not touching them a surface level you're not touching it but i'm just not too why does it feel like it though that my big my big gaping hole don't take anything like wow my big gaping whole with all this is that we just there's one thing we're just missing about it because there's just no way that the distances make sense like there's just no way like there's there's like oh yeah this this galaxy is like a billion light years away so you would have to travel for a billion years at the speed of light to get there that's just not that's like we miss something that's there's there's just a different way to do it there has to be there's just no i can't that's not that's just not You can't have that.

We can't have that. Right. I saw something the other day that was, they were like, if you travel this fast, it would take you this long to get to the moon. If you travel this fast, it'd take you this long to get to Mars. And then the one to get out of our galaxy or whatever it was, you would have to travel at the speed of light for 45 billion years to get outside of it. And it's like, well, well, then what I don't understand.

I don't even understand what that means. Science, you guys are missing something. Like that's just not, that's not really got to figure it out. There's some other civilization. they just hit a button and they just get wherever they want to get. They're like, oh, we're going to go check on these Earthlings. We're going to hit the A button and we're just there. There's no

they don't have to travel for 45 billion years at the speed of light. Like they're in fucking the mid-millian Falcon? What are we talking about here? There's no way. We lost Frankie again. Frankie is exit of the podcast. The best part is that we're talking about how

sophisticated people are and we can't even record a podcast properly. At some point, They will come back. At some point, they will figure out how to move particles from one place to another if they haven't already.

It's just a matter of, will they be able to do like the mind and the thinking and the brain? You know what I mean? I guarantee that at some point in the future, they'll be able to take your being and just zap you somewhere else.

Maybe not in the galaxy, but in another part in the world. They will, they'll figure out how to recreate your molecules by just like taking yours and then producing yours somewhere else. I just know it. I think they're doing that with like,

actual objects already. It's almost 3D imaging where they're taking something and then they're just like producing it somewhere else. That's like that's a very obviously not what I'm explaining, but it feels like the ground level of it where you're like you have this idea and you just throw it into the computer and just produces it. It just makes it out of whatever matter that's there. I do think at some point they will make humans to just be like, I need to be in China and

you're just going to like be zapped there. But will they be able to do the thinking and the mind and the creative? Like will that all go with it? Like, memory. Will that go with it? That's where it starts to become like, what is this whole thing that we're doing here anyway?

You know what I mean? Like what are memories? What is thinking? What is all of that stuff? Yeah. I know I agree. I just think it's heavily dependent on whether we can keep this thing going or not. Because even if you look back at,

um, a TikTok again, I'm in pyramid TikTok about like how did these things get built and no, we don't have a clue. Nobody has a clue. Water levels. Everybody's got a theory. I saw the water one the other day.

it's it's nobody really knows and whatever the traces of what it was got wiped out by something so we just don't know what happened they're just the pyramids survived but the way that they did it seems to have not survived so whatever built it is gone do the they were just on like peyote and shit and they like saw that you know their brains went to a place where it's like oh shit this is how you do stuff you just got to take a bunch of LSD yeah I know I've seen I've seen a lot of this stuff online uh where it's like aliens came down and just showed us how to do a bunch of shit and left. And that like, like, isn't there, wasn't there a huge advancement in technology in like the 70s or the 80s where it's like like shit just started popping off where like the internet just got invented and everyone's like what what do you talk like where did this fucking where did this even where did this even come from? Like who even who even thought about doing this and how is it moving this fast?

Steve Jobs took a bunch of LSD and made the Mac computer. I just watched again because I saw in the movie theaters. I watched the Ashton Cutcher Jobs movie. It's good. He looks like Steve Jobs a lot so I can kind of get behind it. He's not the best actor in the world. He's good. It's good.

It's a good movie, but they make him look like a fucking huge asshole, which I think he was. He was. He was. But he didn't invent shit. You know what I mean? Like he didn't do shit. He made a thought about it. Right.

You got to have an idea. He saw like someone fucking around. Steve Wozniak was fucking around with it. Steve Wozniak was like designing it in his living room and Jobs is like this could be the future. Like that's where he had the vision where Wozniaks like this is just a cool thing I want to jerk off to. Like it's just like.

Yeah. He also I feel like because I've, I've gone down all those rabbit holes too. He like he was the bold visionary, not necessarily the genius like coder. And he would got it. Like he was like the iPhone. Like we're going to have. He just was like the iPhone's the thing.

I don't necessarily know how to make it. But here's what I want you guys to make. and then like the iPad. Like we talk about we all have iPads now. He was like, yeah, the iPad's going to be the thing and the fucking iPod, which they started with.

Like nobody, nobody was doing that shit. He was like, this is what it's going to be. We're going to put 10,000 songs onto this little white iPod. And nobody thought of that. You know,

I don't think he was some genius that knew exactly how to do it. But he's like, hey, you minions that work for me, build an iPod. They built an iPod. He put it, he's in his black turtle neck and fucking jeans

and up there with the screen. Next thing you know, everybody's got to have an iPod. It's like he was unbelievable at that shit. That is what I actually saw Bill Burr talk about. It was a long time ago on Conan. I don't know if you ever put it in one of his specials or anything. He's saying that exact same thing.

Like basically Steve Jobs had the ideas, but he didn't have the idea to actually make it work. And then when they would present all these things, he'd go out there in his turtleneck like, I'm the genius. Look at what I did. He was good at, he was good at speaking and also like pushing the envelope

open within his own company. There was one line, I think, in the movie where he's, like, selling the very first Apple computer to, like, a local computer guy. And the guy's, like, computers don't go for this. Like, and he's basically saying, like, you can't compare what I'm giving you to anything else that's ever been done. Like, this is new. So, like, I make the price.

You know what I mean? Like, he was, he was like a visionary in that point where it's like, who would even think to describe something like that? Where you're like, no, no, like, you're comparing that to just something that you already know exists. This is, like, we've, like, we've. You've just peered into a new dimension. And like I tell you what that price is now.

And it's just like, oh shit, you're right. Like, yeah, it's a personal home computer. It's never been done before. I also, and I brought this up a couple months ago on this podcast, but it's like, didn't it feel it's such a fucking shitty thing to say, like a dumb loser in his fucking house to say this right now. But like doesn't, didn't it feel like it was easier to invent stuff like back then? Doesn't it feel like everything's already fucking been invented?

You know what I mean? But it's such a dumb thing to say. because like you could just come up with the next phone. Just no one's going to come up with what that is. But someone's going to do it. There's like it's AI. It's AI. AI is a thing.

In the next 10 years. Like millions of things are going to be invented. Like we're just like, what do you mean this thing's coming? Like what do you mean this like Snapchat AI is answering your questions that you answer? You're just like, what is that? I don't even know what that is.

We did talk about it because and I was saying I'm stunned when new things are invented. Just like at one point. It's easier to like make a refrigerator for the first time and like, like oh like our food's just going bad we need something to be cold and you're just like all right let's build this like box that can get really cold and it'll just like preserve all the food and you're like that's a fucking invention and like oh like we can't like we can't move from this place to that place we need like something that can like roll and you're like it's a wheel like just like a lot easier than thinking of like secondary thought processes from a fucking internet base called

AI and like I don't know. It just feels like it's way more revved up. It's almost like comparing sports from 2023 to like 1920 where it's like it's way harder to score a goal in the NHL now than it was in like 1937 where it's just like things just weren't as advanced and it just felt like it was easy. But to them it wasn't easy. No. I get that. Think about that. Think about how many 10 like 10 to thousands of years and billions of people it took for someone to be like, all right, we've been doing, we've been fighting with this bow and arrow and a sword for forever. What about a gun? Like, what about a gut? It took billions of people that lived and died and went through war before someone was like,

we're going to do it with a fucking gun. We're going to put this gunpowder. We're just going to shoot metal balls and other people. That's way better than these fucking bows and arrows. The Dolm's going to look at it in a way where it's less. It's less about inventing something new as it is improving on the thing that's kind of already there. Bow and arrow gun example. Even the computer, like the first computer was the size of this whole apartment building. Like the whole, every floor was like, it's like, this was one computer.

And now we've got it in our phone and you can, it's tinier. It's like less about. Yeah. Like even refrigerator was like, I'm sure the first one was huge and like, yeah, we can keep three stakes in it. Right. And now you can, you can, you got huge refrigerators that are efficient and you can put them everywhere. Like that's what it's about. You're rarely, rarely, rarely, rarely going to come up within a.

original idea like a super original idea all the original ideas have been taken i've still i've still never gotten a good answer for just how they kept things cold before electricity in hot places there's just no answer below right is it down below down down down below what everybody had a cave like what are talking about i cold you ever feel the bottom you ever feel the bottom of like you stick your hand in dirt and the dirt's all cold not a no it's a hundred degrees out here that i think if you dug deep enough in Arizona, you'd start to get some chill in that ground. I really do. I think if you went like, that's what I'm saying. Every person just had a, they had a hundred foot deep cave. Maybe.

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It's such a hard answer because you won't know. Yeah. I mean, if I, if somebody comes up with something right now, cut it and we're going to become billionaires. What could it be though? In like in what in what in what facet of life could there be something that we've never seen before? Well, that's where a guy like Elon is very interesting because he with the

neuraling thing is probably the only one that we're going to. That's something. Yeah, we talked about this couple episodes ago. That's the one. Neuro link is something where it's like it's nothing right now. No. But still, that's like an improvement on just like, it's kind of like connecting your phone to your brain, really.

Instead of like having it here in your hand, it's just plugged into the back of your fucking Matrix head. Man, people are going to hate us after listening to this. Really? It's just like a lot of just like, they're like, oh, fuck, I can't, you know, I don't know how to answer if there's a fucking new invention coming. I'm going to have to take that gun away from their head while they're listening. to make a little bone arrow.

It could have been a bow and arrow. Do you think? Yeah. I'm not going to ask that question. That's kind of a fucked up question. All right. People saw from the bow and arrow. Is that you're going to ask?

Yeah. Yeah. Do you think that was like, was that a way that people, who go up, yeah. Fire it up. No, you can just go right in.

Really? Maybe not. How? Turn it sideways backwards on yourself? Again, I understand. That's kind of grim. I'm just curious about the logistics of it.

Shoot in the air and you're like, all right, here I go. Because someone commits suicide now. You're saying, pull, you grab the gun, point it, pull trigger over.

Could you do that with a bow and arrow? Silence. I don't know. I guess you're shooting it straight up. You'd have to be an unbelievable shot.

Shoot it straight up and then have it come straight back down. You have to factor in the wind? I don't know. I don't know. It's all right. It used to be a game

people played where, I don't know if people actually played it, but they would say that everyone would kind of stand in the circle. One guy would shoot a bow in the air and then everybody runs.

It's electric. It's kind of electric. I mean, It's potentially lethal, but it's Russian roulette with a bow and arrow. I mean, yeah. How about Hamilton was just killed by a duel? Like that was just like a legitimate duel. Two guys had a feud and they had a duel and one of them just died.

That can't be the way of subtle arguments. I went on the White House website. No, it's on the Internet. That's what you're supposed to do. I went on the White House website a couple weeks ago and just stared at all the president's pictures. And I just really tried to look at them and be like, that guy led the country. country. And I really tried to think of like what their personalities were like, like, if you go back and look at like the first 10 or 20 presidents and you just stare at them and you're like, that guy legitimately ran this country and there's like the reason why it's where it's at right now, it's pretty impressive to just like stare at them and think about all that shit, like picture them in situations. It's this is, we talked about going to lows. We talked about the things that make you feel like you're getting older. It's a it's a stage in life when you get interested in presidents. When you,

you start to really look back at like who they were because what you learn in school is very like it's shallow to a degree where you're just like this guy won this and he was the president but if you go back and learn about them I mean they're some of the most interesting people that ever live just by happenstance you just like you look at the guy like john tyler the 10th president of the united states you just look at him and you're just like you know what was that guy's story and we think about how like impressively large presidents are now like how i mean obviously it's been ramped up because of just like you see them everywhere everything's a global um story every single day but like who were these guys you know

millard fillmore like that guy was a president of united states some of the early ones you don't they don't you don't even think about them it is it is just think about how different it is too it's like abraham lincoln do when he used to like go meet with people and stuff a lot of times he just rode by himself. Like he didn't have a security detail and stuff. He would just, he would just ride places by himself. Right.

Yeah. You can't do that now. You wouldn't, you just can't. The president of the United States. Like, I'm just going to hop on my horse and like go talk to Tim about, you know, whatever. It's also very interesting to get into,

um, I read a book about it recently like the how media changes over time and how the, how the debates were just so different back then. We're talking seven, eight hour debates where one guy gets, get his entire point out. literally gets to speak for three hours and everyone there's crowds of people standing around listening intently being like okay this is how this guy feels about a certain issue guy talks for four hours then the next guy gets to talk for another four hours crowd still there nobody will even listening intently and then that's sort of how they decide things smash cut to now the debates are it's it's more theater than it is and it's obviously been ramped up the last few years but it's back then it was very slow And it was like, oh, that's how he thinks about this.

Now it's, you got 30 seconds and then you got 15 seconds to respond to whatever he says. And it's just everything is going a million miles per hour faster than he used to. Dude, back then, like, people had nothing to do. Like, what would you do? If you're not working or eating a meal, like, what are you doing? You don't, you just read a book. Like, you had a book that was kind of the only entertainment option in the world. Right?

Like, from, if you woke up on a Saturday. And you just were off work that day. And it's 8 a.m. You wake up. What are you doing? You got, there's no TV. There's no phone. There's no internet.

There's no, what do you do it? What are you doing? You're going to the debate. You're going to the 10 hour to park. You're like looking at birds and shit. Like what are you doing? Franklin Pierce. Like this guy was the president of United States.

I went to Pierce, I'm Metro. I know that guy is. Rakes, your dad kind of looks like Dwight D. De Eisenhower. Do you ever get that? Really?

Hold on. Let me show me picture. I can just, I could see like a, I can see a resemblance. You see that? Oh, yeah. If he threw a hat on, if he threw like a, like a, like a, like a, like a, like a camo

hat on or like a fisherman type thing. Uh-huh. That's him right there. My, uh, my dad gets Mark Messier a lot, too. Oh, yes. Holy shit, yes. He looks exactly like Mark Messier, dude. Holy shit, yes.

Oh, wow. Your dad looks exactly like Mark Messier. I did. That's pretty, like, like, legit could, like, sign autographs. I mean, identical. Dude, and when I was a kid and playing hockey still, and I'd be walking around with my hockey bag and hockey sticks and airports and stuff, people would stop my dad and be like,

and he would play along a lot. That's wild. Mark Messia, he'd be like, oh, yeah, great to me. And then after a minute, he couldn't hold it in. He'd be like, I'm not Mark Bressier. He'd just fucking look like it. That's electric. That's so sick.

He looks just like a whole guy. It's incredible. It's absolutely incredible. And then my uncle, Paul, who's my dad's, brother, obviously. He looks exactly like Larry David, my uncle Paul. I mean, exactly.

It is unbelievable. Yeah, it's uncanny. See if I have any, I don't even know if he's on like Facebook. I want to show you a picture my uncle Paul, who's the man. And he looks, because he came to the Minnesota Barstool Classic a couple years ago. And people literally thought it was Larry David. That's amazing. Wow.

We got to get Larry David in the mix. That guy's a big golfer. He was a the Laker game last night. How do we get Larry David on the show? I mean, how do you get the funniest guy in the world? Like, that's kind of what you're asking. Right, how do we do that? He's one of the most sought after people, and he's a guy who doesn't really do interviews.

What was the last interview you saw Larry David do? He doesn't do shit. Isn't one of the episodes out at Riviera? He's probably a member at Riviera. Let's all go play Riv. I'll go play Riv. With Larry David. Rive. I would happily go play Rive.

I know Dan's played it. I'm trying to find this. I got to find a picture of my Uncle Paul. You're going to be blown away. He's not a social media guy, so I got like, I have no idea how to track down just a random photo on my uncle. Neither is Larry. Have these guys ever been in the same room together? That's exactly right.

I don't have any family members that look like famous people, which is unfortunate. That sucks. That's a shame. Not a one. How about you trying to look at like? My aunt looks like Phil Mickelson. I told you guys that. I think you've mentioned that before, yeah.

Speaking of Phil, playing really well. He is playing really well. My grandpa, my pop-up, the originator of Borrelli's, he looked like Larry David. He's got the white hair, the glasses. He would look like a more Italian, not Jewish. Yeah. If you're thin and have glasses and you get older, you kind of look like Larry David. It's the white hair on the side.

That's the key. Yeah. Give me a fucking photo. My dad looks like Super Mario. You guys know what? You know what Mario's last name is? Didn't this? Was this a problem recently?

Do you know what Mario's last name is? No. No. It's Mario. They're the Mario Brothers. Mario and Luigi are the Mario brothers. His name is Mario Mario Mario. No, it's not.

It can't be. Shut up. Go look it up, pitch. Dude, it's the craziest mind-blowing fact of all time. They're the super Mario brothers. Yeah, but that's just because Mario is. Mario is the alpha.

He's the guy. He's the one. Really? You don't think Luigi's last name is Mario? I think people didn't think of the... Hold on. Hold on. No, I don't.

I think people didn't... When the originators, when they created it, I don't think they gave him the last name. And it ended up being... I mean, he's the main character. If we're talking about main characters... It's called the Mario Brothers. But what I'm saying is, I don't think they meant it to be.

That was their last name. Yes, they did. If you look it up, he's called Mario, Mario, and there's a whole story behind it. I say Mario. I said Mario to begin. I said Mario to begin, because I'm converse. informing to fucking bullshit. I think they were forced into that,

the story and everything. I think they were forced into that. I don't think that was the original. That wasn't like Lord of the Rings where he had the backstory from the very beginning. George R. Martin was, he didn't write the back story. Think about how my mind that is,

though. They've always been called the Mario brothers. So they have to, their last name has to be the Marios. And you've just never thought of it. You've never thought Marion Luigi's last name is Mario. Because I know that it's not actually. It is.

There's no way, it is. The origination of it is a whole. whole thing. Mario Mario. When did they come up with the story is my question. I mean, now you're asking you're asking. Mario, Mario, Mario, Mario.

Mario. Mario. It's like George Foreman's kids. All George. That's fucking crazy. From the gallery. I'm going to do a little bit more research on that and I'll get back to you about. You know who's from the gallery is brought to you by now? Who is that?

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They got forced into it. Yeah. That was plain as clear as day, dude. Yeah, I don't know how you didn't see that one. But it makes sense, though. It makes sense. we've just always just ignored the name. Like,

we've acted like, Mario is the main character. So they're the Mario brothers. I get that it doesn't totally track. It doesn't make sense, yeah. But it's just you're saying like what it is because that's what it is. But like if you really think about the name,

so were they. If you think about the name, like they just fell into the story. They had to. That's what I was saying. It's like the Brelly brothers. You were making it be like when they drew Mario for the first time, they were like,

there's Mario, that's what I thought. Yeah, that's psychod. Because the name is, The last name brothers. Like, you know. You're arguing a point that was just proved incorrect.

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He caught me on a day where I was like, I was thinking I'm fat. I'm the fattest guy in the world. I got to get active and I got to figure this thing out. I am now, I'm a part of this group with him where we track our fitness every day and we're against other groups. And I have to. Benjamin Severance. Yeah.

He has an answer to text about four play in like four months. Well, he answers my text, I guess. Maybe send the stuff my way because he, uh, we're trying to lose weight together. So I'm just in this group that he runs where, you know, if you walk a certain amount or if you do a certain amount of pushups, you get a certain amount of points and you're trying to beat these teams. So it's just, I just, you reminded me of that when you brought up his name. So that's something I'm involved in.

And I'm kind of bringing the group down. Who else is in this fucking group? It's random people that he knows. that I don't know. We're all in a group chat together, and, you know, they're sending messages back and forth

about working out, and I feel a little uncomfortable because I don't know anybody, but that's something that I'm currently in, and I'm kind of dead weight for the last couple of days. I haven't done anything, so bringing the group down. All right.

From the gallery, presented by Taylor May, go to Taylormogoff.com slash barstool sweeps. Chris asks, if a player never won a major, how many players championships do you think a player would need to win to be considered for the Hall of Fame? So what if somebody won no majors, but they won five players championships?

I don't know what the basis of the Hall of Fame is. Hall of Fame debates always, like, throw me off because I don't know. Do you even have to win a major to be in the Hall of Fame? Can you win like 16 events and just be like a majorless Hall of Fame golfer? I feel like the going rate for like a baseline career, Hall of Fame career right now is like two majors and 15. wins feels like yeah i think that's what dan said on the last show because i think he actually mentioned that but it's it's it's it's a little bit there's obviously wiggle room because i was just thinking like on hell cabrera he won two majors he won a u.s open and the masters he's not a hall of fame guy

but freddie couples i think he just won the one masters as his only major but i think he's clearly a hall fame guy right yeah yes so there's exceptions i guess it's sort of the eye test almost like fred couples is a hall of fame guys on all the teams everybody's boy won a major one the masters got the beautiful swing yeah that's something i guess i don't know enough about the golf hall of fame where can you be can those intangible things factor into your candidacy like fred couples feels like a yes that feels like a guy who's like of course fred couples is a hall of favor right but i just don't know how much that weighs into it if you win five players that's a pretty big deal and no other like are you saying those are the only events that they won

also got some other PJ tour way. I think every time the players comes around, that guy's like, like, like, immortalized. This fucking guys won five of these things. Yeah. Yeah, that guy's the guy. He's like, dude, this is his turn. This is his place like that. I'm trying to think like did a, like Steve Elkington.

I think he like he won the players like twice, I think. But he also won a PGA, I believe. I want to say no to that. But I think it probably, it probably five is a number that's like really, really, really stunning to me where if you win five of the same majorly elevated event you know state like just everything about it 17 you're just like you're dominating that place every year they're making a huge deal about the players and you're winning it that's a pretty big damn that's a pretty big you're a big time golfer if that's happening you're in the news for like half a decade dude from

like from like if you're 25 years old to when you're 45 years old you got a pretty standard 20 year career out there you win five I mean it's one out of four like every fourth players you just win it right that's a couple of them you're probably winning like three in a row too you know what I mean like that's right you win yeah you win two out of three or three out of five or something you're like this guy just wins the biggest event that's not a major all the time that I think you might get in there if you had a little charisma I think you might get it you need some other wins I don't know if you could just have five wins on your right I agree you got to be that would digit wins I think what a career five wins five players championships every

everything else is he just he can't the guy can't get missed cuts and right so it's like jack's got three fred's got two elkington's got two hell sutton's got two d l3's got two and tiger's got two so that's the list we're looking at right now but let's give a let's give a little shot on love to our guy hardy you see hardy posted his instagram yesterday he's just rocking the barstle golf hat's always rocking the barstle golf hat's crazy love that guy he he he i think me and frankie and him have a little side text and he'll just send us videos of him like on the driving range just grinding like he'll literally get to a new stop find a driving range and he's out there he sets his phone on the ground and he takes videos of his swing so he loves it i don't know if we've told this before it's probably been

removed enough now but it might have been a year and a half or two years ago that he hit us up and was like i got a big round of golf coming up and i really want to rock barstool golf stuff we're like no problem he played augusta national with like the whole manning family and he is wearing a Barstow golf hoodie and hat in his picture on the Hogan Bridge on the 12th hole at Augusta National. So that guy is my fucking favorite. I love Hardy. Yeah, we do.

He's the best. Actually, speaking of hats, I know that we're not like officially announcing it, but we can try to tease it, you know, the PGA championship hat that you're wearing right now, Riggs, all these things, they sold out so fast. We still have a couple of hoodies left. The white patch hoodies are still available. but the unreal crossover hoodie, the one that goes within a fucking blink of an eye

every time we release it, that's sold out. We are restocking, I'm hearing. I'm hearing that hats are going to be available. So I don't know if there's a wait list or you're going to have to keep up to date with when we do release this. It's probably going to be around

when the tournament actually happens, the PJ Championship, but there's going to be a chance for once play is actually happening, you're going to be able to buy the merchandise. I know a lot of people, especially people around Oak Hill, I was talking to guys like,

um, um, who, uh, Merles has like a bunch of buddies that belong to O'Kill and they were like, dude, like we didn't pay attention for one day and we missed all the merchandise we wanted to get. They're like,

we belong to O'Kill. They belong to the golf club. And they're like, we want the Barstall PGA merch and they, they couldn't get it. They were like, we, it's,

the hats are sold out. And I told them we're restocking them. So like people want it, regardless of if they want it to get for the tournament. I mean, how often do you actually go to the tournament? I like to just buy shit. Even if I don't go there, I just like to have this stuff.

It's like commemorable. It's like really cool. It's once. It's fucking exclusive. So people are going to have a chance. We are going to restock that. So all the people messaging us, that is coming.

There was also a one of the from the gallery submissions would continue to move on. Alex said, is it ever okay to wear merch or gear from an event you did not attend? Bang. And I think the answer is unequivocally, yes. I think the event is a no brainer. I think the event is a no brainer. The master's a little bit.

different because the masters is like it's when you wear it they ask you like oh what year did you go yeah but i think every like i think it's fine to wear anything else from an event it's like it's golf courses and the masters to me that i feel like you have to be there to wear it golf course thing is an interesting one because i do get it but i also like my brother for example when i go to if i go play wing foot or i go play oak monitor so i'm always like dude i'm i'm gonna get you maybe a shirt from the pro shop and he's like fuck yeah and like where is he's all the time. So I don't know that I'm kind of with you. I don't know that I necessarily

would, but events and like PGA championship gear, all that, I just think if it's cool, the logo's great, I want it. And I remember probably 10 years or so it goes, way before we were doing any of this, our friend Pete, mine lurches, buddy Pete, got to go to the Masters

like last minute and he sent a group text out that was like, I'm going to get a bunch of hats for anyone who wants one. Do you guys want a hat? And everybody said yes, being like I want one. So I look back on that now. because we've been to events and I kind of feel a little bit more like you do, Frankie, but then looking back at my former self, who didn't have all the cool golf related opportunities and gear that we have.

And I was like, yes, I want a fucking master's hat. So bad. Yeah, for sure. For sure. Yeah. No, I agree with that. You can always lie, too. If you want to lie, you can.

Just lie. It's just cool stuff, too. It's cool stuff to own. It's like what part of being alive is. You just like own a bunch of cool stuff and then you die. And it's like, that's just another cool thing. Yeah. I think if I had a master's hat and I hadn't been there or a master's hat.

shirt and someone was like what year you go i'd say 2017 baby i was there who what a i was there for the Thursday around like say the story of like yeah like i just like my buddy brought this for me he went dude i will say i brought uh when we had the classic in arizona here a couple days ago i brought the uh lawn chair that i bought at augusta i brought that out there and put it on the first tee and was just watch that first tea and many people were like well this is augusta a chair. Was this at Augusta this year? I was like, yeah, this chair last time it was used was on the 12th hole in Augustine

National. And they're like, can I touch the chair? So people are like touching the chair that was at Augusta. I was like, I totally understood. I was like, yeah, it's pretty. That chair was at Augusta national. They've really got to figure out when people just want to touch a chair that was there. I get it too. That fucking chair is that. You told me that chair right there. That chair was at Augusta.

Oh, yeah, the chair was at Augusta. Let me touch that fucking chair. So, I mean, I totally get it. I understand. Hey, we got to do for the cut. Dan Rappaport submitted his for the cut for the Wells Fargo at Quail Hollow, which is a great golf course. We loved it.

We were there for the president's cup. That was Snap That Son of a Gun. We had all kinds of fun stuff with George W. Bush. Speaking of presidents, that's the only president I've, I believe that's the only president I've ever met. George W. Bush. Yeah.

Frankie's got a couple. You got two, Frankie? Yeah, I've got Donald Trump and W. I think I just got, I just got Bush. I didn't meet Clinton either. He was at the president's company. He was right there. He was right there.

He was getting, because I was in that corner, dude. I remember he was getting dominated a little bit by W. He was like, W was in his element. And slick will he wasn't, he wasn't. He wasn't by any stretch of the imagination. Like, he would have lost by decision, I guess. He didn't get dominated, but he was beaten by George W. Bush in that corner, just in terms of just charisma and everything. He was, W. He had way more life to him.

Might be age-related. Sure. I know he's had heart issues. I feel like he had a huge heart surgery, like 20 years ago, it feels like he's still kicking. Speaking of having cool things that, like, people like to touch, I have, I've got cufflinks from the Oval Office that have just a presidential seal on them. that are that it's like when are you going to use those never never i've got that and i've got a towel that has a presidential a golf towel okay because trump was like i heard there's a golfer in the room and he flinged it at me dude it's like how do you know who told him that

the craziest experience in my life people are going to like politics you can't bring that guy's name up without people like they're gonna fucking puke on themselves or what i mean my like the podcast might just stop playing right now because I'm saying the guy's name, but just the craziest experience of all time. Like, I have pictures on my phone that are legitimately the crazy. Like, it feels like we were in like Madam

Tuesday, like a legit Hollywood movie set. Like, I have a picture of Dave just like kind of shrugging at me, being like we're just in the oval office right now. Like, we went from the pizza place yesterday to just like in the most powerful exclusive room. In the, we're talking about like galaxies and light

ears and stuff. The only place where we're, we're know that there is life. It's like the most important room here. Yeah. You know what I mean? And we've made it that as a civilization. So maybe it doesn't have actual any value to like the galaxy. But it has a lot of importance here. For what civilization has built up, it's the most important room in the world, I would say. It's the office of the most powerful man on the planet. It's crazy. And we were there while it was like being used. Like it's not like it was a tour. It was like there were phone calls being made. I don't care who it was. You were, that's one of the cool. could have been anyone that's ever existed you were in the oval office with the president of the united state the sitting president of the thing on a non what are we what are we doing here that's yeah it's like the way that the way that's talking about it in like four years it's like the craziest thing it's ever happened into office that's the craziest thing it's ever happened to me and i had a crazy

mustache right that was my favorite part i had an islanders run it was right after the islanders run it was during covid um the islanders were like on that huge i think they stopped sports at that point remember it was just like everything was just kind of stopped. Oh yeah. And yeah, it was just fucking I had a huge mustache. I was growing it. I think we had played like Kevin Kisner. I had the same mustache for Kisner.

It wasn't really an honor thing. I think it was like a COVID mustache. Yeah. No, presidents are cool, man. Like the discourse has gotten so crazy in that even that video that I put up with George W. They're like, you're a war criminal because you shook his hand. It's like, I don't know, man.

I don't know. I don't think so. And I like, people are crazy. Crazy. Last night, someone, Stu Feiner bought a bunch of Bud Light down to the seat and somebody looked at me and goes, are you going to drink that? And I said, uh, I looked at him. I said, are you a psychopath? And he's just like, that's just crazy. I was just like, you mean like the most popular beer ever made? You mean like, you mean anizer, but I was just like, I don't know what you're like, whatever you're

talking about. You, you have the right to talk about whatever you want. But like, yeah, I'm going to drink the, Stu just bought me a beer. I'm just going to drink this beer. The world's actually crazy In that regard where it's just like It's beer, man Let's just be normal Like everyone can just be normal Let's just be normal

Everyone just be normal But the fact that like I've always been afraid to talk about being in the Oval Office Has always been such a weird part of my life Where it's like I've hid I have a picture of my phone of me With the president at the desk It's just like I've never once talked about it

It's just like I gotta hide it It's like everything is so crazy It's just unfortunately you do kind of have to hide it It's so stupid. It sucks. It's just like not worth posting because then you've got to fight everybody. I know. People are fighting each other in the comments and it's just like.

Well, luckily the people listen to this show, you feel like everyone's like just a normal person. Like obviously there's like people out there. They're probably getting mad. But it's like at some point you just got to just like just be normal. Like on all accounts I love about the Barstall classic is how you really learn that everyone that's is just pretty normal. Like all the people that we chit chat with and we see out at these golf events that we host,

They're just normal people that are laughing and hitting good shots, bad shots, hanging out with their buddy. They took the day off work with their dad. And they're just normal human beings that are happy to be there. You've got to remind yourself of that. But that is, that is so sick. You were in the Oval Office with the sitting president of the United States. That's just awesome. There's no other way around that.

I got a message from a guy we talked about, this is way off topic. We talked about video coaches, how they do the replays and the challenges. Oh, I got that. got that to him that guy would be pretty cool to talk to he's the assistant video coach for the columbus blue jackets and a large part of his job involves challenging plays during games would happy to be talk would happy to talk to y'all and give you some insight into what we do that would be pretty fucking cool just fucking get him on right now we send this guy a link he might be it's it is a saturday he might be i guess he's emailing us on a he just fucking emailed us he's dm and everybody let's

get this fucking guy on it what else are we doing it's Saturday. I got a tuna. I got a tuna bagel downstairs. I probably got one day left until, what does this come out? Tuesday? We'll get canceled for talking about all this stuff. True. This is there. This is our last show. Hopefully made it to this part of the show. I won't sleep for three nights now. I'm playing golf in the morning. I'm just joking. Corey Kisper with our boy Corey Kisper. Oh, cool. Good looking guy. That is the one thing. It's like, it's the fucking joke. It's the joke where it's like, go to the golf course. You're out. The Islanders will have a tea time tomorrow. And it's like, yep,

like we're definitely going to golf for sure. Like, you know, like Corey Kisper missed the playoffs. He's just golfing. Like that's what you guys love to do. It's like, it shouldn't be a dick. Yes, it's a day because like you should be playing hockey.

You should be winning. But like if it wasn't rain today. Don't play that sport you love. I would definitely be playing with them right now. If it wasn't rain. Go out of that beautiful course and play that fun game. You loser. It's like,

well, man. Okay. It's like, it's a place that you should go to like get your mind off it. Like you love the sport of hockey so much that you need to like, go out and play another activity just to keep you're fucking like your mind okay you can't just sit at home mm-hmm we'll see if this guy calls by the

time we finish but i doubt it i doubt it get him on next show it's perfect for hockey playoff time i would yeah that's just cool it's like what goes on back there dude how about the hand pass one from last night in the bruin's game did you see that frank i don't know if you were like because the games were at the same time no dude they put up the score a couple times on the jumbetron like people were like moaning and grow like it was crazy how many goals were being scored from in that bruin's Santhers game. Like we would check it would be four three.

Then it would be four, then it was five, four, then it was five five. Then it was six five. I'm like, what's happening? Dude, the Bruins, I believe, were down three, two. And then they score to go three three. And then they score again to go four three. Or maybe it was three two, either one, like really quickly. And the fucking one of these guys, one of these video coach guys clearly saw something because

watching in real time, we didn't have volume at the bar. We were up at Izzy's, but like in real time, I don't think anybody noticed shit. And then they go to. a review and you're like what do they review it and they're reviewing a hand pass in the corner and the puck which is like spinning on the ice one of the bruin's guys is down and it like grazes his finger and then the bruin other bruin's player picks it up like basically don't and it was technically a hand pass like it definitely was but it had zero effect the puck moved a millimeter from this puck grazing the guy's finger and they call no goal they call the goal back

because it was technically a hand pass so this fucking video guys that's got to be similar to our blue jackets guy were like that's they were on the ball they're like that was an illegal play we're going to call them back on that it was fucking nuts i haven't watched all the um highlights yet because i just can't bring myself to do it i saw the final goal it was right in front of us but i went back and watched us see how the fuck it went in the honor game i went off his fucking skates just like a freak shit um when the when the when the um hurricane scored the game tire is like 10 minutes left the game tie and goal. I saw the ref go to the, I think it was the linesmen, go to the referees and do this,

like the hand pass motion. And they all kind of huddled. And like, I actually said like, what's that? Like I point, it was on the other side of the case. I'm like, what are they talking about? And then everything just kept going on. They dropped the puck. It was one one. I'm like, what the fuck was that? So I wondered if the islanders had hand pass. And then Carolina had cleared it by just touching the puck. But originally, like when I first saw that hand motion, I thought that Carolina had handpass and they were going to like disallow the goal. And then I went on Twitter and saw at the same time

Ryan Whitney wrote what a hand pass that was. And I'm like, wait a minute. Did we just get fucked? Like I didn't know. I didn't know if they were talking about it online. Because like when you're at the game, you have no idea what's going on sometimes. You don't know the conversations they're being had.

So I'm like, it was at the same time, dude. It was crazy. I also do think that Kane's goal, he did pass it to himself. They talked about that, but he didn't grab it. So there was a conversation about a drop? Yeah, they were wondering because what you can't do, what you can't catch it and throw it down. Can't cover it.

But you can sort of lead it to yourself? Is that, that's what happened. Now, did I get fucked or was it the right call? No, it looked like he just kind of brought it down. Did he close his hand on it or what? I don't think he did. I wish he had. That's always a gray area too, because in order to like, when the puck's in the air,

in order to get it with your hand down to, you have to like control it. In order to control it, you have to close your hand to a degree. Like you can't just, you know, it's not hotcakes. You're not like this with it. You grab it and throw it down on the eye. So it's always a little bit of gray area. I mean, like that would be tough to like disallow it. Because, I mean, earlier in the game, Freddie Anderson, like, went to go shoot the puck down and

Clutterbuck just caught it and put it down and shot it back at him. It's like, obviously he caught it with his hand. Clearly. Clearly. He didn't like palm it and pop it up. I was fired up for that Calgle. I mean, I don't. Oh, my God.

I don't want to get into it. We don't have to get into it. It was right in front of me, too. But I just, I know I play golf for that. We all played golf with that guy. And he's such a normal. No disrespect. Cal, he's a normal looking guy.

Everyone else is Barzel and Brock who's eight feet tall. He's a little disrespect. He's going to love that though. Cal is just kind of like, I saw him and I was like, that's like a normal guy. And then I watch him, I watch him score a playoff goal and I was losing my mind. Yeah. I was fired up. Dude, that guy's fucking awesome.

I love him. I hadn't talked to him since the scramble basically. And whenever, uh, when, when the penguins lost to get you guys. into the playoffs. I texted him like, wow. And he responded in two seconds and was like, how about that? The boys got life. How about the fact that I didn't tell you guys this? I forgot to tell you guys this. How about the fact that Cal Clutterbuck? I get a text the other day from Justin Thomas. And it's a Calcutterbuck jersey. Happy birthday, by the way. It's Saturday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Justin Thomas. 30 years old. Impressive guy. Really impressive first 30 years for

you, J.T. He texts me and he takes a picture of a jersey. It's a Cal Clutterbuck jersey. And he goes, can you believe this guy? And Clutterbuck sent him a jersey, like framed. And it said to the only Pence fan I know. And he signed it. And I was like, that's just, and JT's like, I was like, well, now you have a real big decision to make because you have that wall of fame. He has that wall of fame in his house where it's like Michael Jordan, Steve. Pry. Yeah. I mean, it's everywhere. Even during the Sunday conversation, like Glennie Balls was talking about it being like, that's the craziest wall ever. I think it's in the background of the Sunday

conversation you can see all the jerseys um and i'm like are you gonna put cow clutter buck up there next to like wayne gratsky it's like that's actually hilarious and he's like i set the back to him he goes i'm gonna use it as a dormat or something like that clutter's the fucking best man and he's a stick i would put him as the best i'd put him as the best i would put my money behind cal clutterbuck is being the best hockey golfer i would he he's up there he's got to because he hits it a mile too but he shot like a 66 one i text him like how'd you play a day he's like i shot a 60s I'm like he goes low low like low and kisner said he's a player kiz played with him for a week when they went on that trip that weekend and kis is like never seen a guy drink and play as well

as he can yeah they went to that a hoopy match match club that everybody raves about in like south carolina wherever that is uh yeah he's he also is the most impressive tee off on top of a beer can player i've ever seen in my life yeah he's he's really really impressive i'm said this guy's going to come on. Straight and far. This guy's going to come on and talk about being a video coach for the Columbus Blue Jackets. Vroom is the better way to buy your next ride. You never have to haggle or negotiate the price of a car so you know you're going to get a good deal. Obviously buy a car is an enormous decision. With Vroom, you can shop thousands of cars right from your phone, have your next ride delivered right to you. You have a full week or 250 miles to make sure your

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How do you say your last name? Augustitis. Augustitis. That's a real vampire shit. You nailed that. Yeah, that is, dude. Well, we appreciate you hopping on so quick. Basically, we're just, we're having, it's obviously a Saturday and we're just kind of just talking until we just don't want to talk anymore. This is coming out on Tuesday. For sure. You know, I'm a dead man when it comes to hockey right now, so I don't really want to talk too much to you in regards to your sport because of the New York Islanders. But Columbus Blue Jackets didn't have the greatest season ever, so we're kind of invested in the same boat. We talked the other day about video coaches and challenging and off sides. And last night, we were talking about how. We just talked about how the Bruins had a hand pass and all of this stuff goes on behind the scenes.

Now, you are a part of that. Like, what is, what is this system like? What is, what is your process like? What are you required to be doing during the games? How much, how much do you do in regards to the video? Talk to us about all the aspects of that job. Right. So, uh, so during the game specifically, like, so we have this, this computer.

It's called the Hawkeyes, the program that it runs on. and it basically like whatever I work on on the computer the coaches then can see it on the bench so you can see the coaches look down at those monitors on the bench that's all connected to the computer that is running in our back room uh so there's two of us they got those monitors like in the floor right yeah so there's most drinks they're in the floor some of them they kind of like tuck them on the corner of the bench um but that's all connected to the computer that I'm running in the back like in our locker room or you know coaches room. whatever building we're in. So I'm just checking everything as the game is going on, right? So off sides are easy to check like puck editors zone. You know, you're checking it. You know, if it's blatantly obvious that it's onside, you're not going to waste time checking that.

For the most part, though, it's just like basically watching the play like a couple seconds behind and trying to, you know, make marks on if something, you know, is close to whether it's high stick, hand pass, things like that. More so for like the one, like the, with the Bruins one, right? Like, I didn't see what angles they had in the room at the time, but that's typically like a TV angle that you don't get in the moment, right?

So you have to wait for a replay to come from the TV booth to then get that exact angle. Because if it's on that normal camera angle, you can't see that. He touches that puck. But then when you look at it the other way, like you're like, okay, obviously hits his glove and goes to him. So you're using as much time before a goal happens to like, you know, be ready for it because you only have that 20, 30 seconds after that on a play like that. Like you have to really lock in on exactly what time you want to look at something.

So are you guys in communication with the coach where like the other night where there was an on side off sides and they took back a Carolina goal because they went back and they said, oh, that was actually off sides? Are you in communication with the coach where you say, hey, that goal just happened. But two minutes ago there was an off sides. Yeah. You guys got to challenge that. Yeah, so there's, so I have a radio in the locker room.

We have one coach on the bench who has an earpiece center radio. We have one coach who sits like either, you know, up in the stands or like up in the press box. So all three of us are in constant communication. Like there's a close call like, you know, the guy upstairs may see it. He's like, you know, check that entry or anyone the coaches on the bench or like check that entry. So you're constantly checking things like as it's going. But it's three different people that we're all, like involved in it. But I'm the only one that has the control.

of like the video of it and then showing it to the coaches on the bench to then for the off sides ones black and white right like it's off sides or it's not so like those are the ones you're just telling them hey this is off sides we're challenging it the ones where it becomes closer are like the goal interference ones where you know you kind of want to have a conversation with the other two guys and what do they see on it because I may see one thing and they may see one thing well if we both see two different things odds are that we're probably not going to get the call we want because it's so 50 50. So you're trying to get on the same page as everyone.

But there's three of us in constant communication throughout the game. Is it just like jubilation when you guys get it right? Like are you guys going crazy back there? Like when when you call a goalie interference and like maybe it's your call and you're like, I'm telling you guys this is goal. Like that? You guys go bananas? So the off sides ones, right?

Like you know. So like those you tend not to, you know, you're just like, okay, like we knew that was coming back. but the goal interference ones are some of like the biggest roller coasters of emotion because you never know what they're going to end up calling and like even if you're like man like there's no way this could be a goal like sometimes we've had ones where we're like oh we have no idea how that they didn't call that back so when they call back the goal interference ones it's the best feeling like just this is crazy for fans to hear because a lot of the biggest moments of these games are decided between you this guy in the stands and the coach like like you guys are

legitimately making a difference on what is called. I would, I would argue, like, some of the biggest moments in the game. I mean, every time something's called back, it's a monumental moment in the game.

I mean, we had one this year, we had one game in Dallas this year, where we had two challenges called back. And they were, I mean, within like five or six minutes of gameplay of each other. And like,

just something that, I was like, oh, two goals just came off the board, and then we ended up winning the game. Like, things like, when moments like that happen,

you're like, okay, I kind of have an impact. Otherwise, you know you just feel you're just i'm doing my job the same way that any guy in the ice is doing their job and helping us win so that's kind of like the mindset of it all so it's like everybody's just got to do their job to like help us come in a hockey game do you give them like do you ever give do you give the coach like a percentage on it like he is he like what's this goal interference

like what do we feel and and are you are you like 50 50 are you like 75 we got this yeah it's typically like the 50 50 or yes or no like it's you're never like like you know it's the one where you're like 50, you like, ah, you know, we could, we couldn't. And that's when it becomes more situational, right? Like, you know, if you're down two goals late in the third period, like, you're probably going to take a chance on one. But if you have a one goal lead and you're laying a third period or you got a one goal lead early and you're playing a team like, you know, like Boston who's got this great power play right now, like, you probably don't want to, like, leave a 50-50 chance. Like, it's typically 50-50 and up is when you're going to make

the call unless it's like extremely situational within the game. It's electric. It's not an electric. What a gig that is. Dude, that's fucking awesome. That hand passed from last night's game and the Bruins one. That was crazy to me how good the video guys must be because I feel like that wasn't on anybody's radar in real time. Well, so that's the thing, right?

So like I'm literally watching the play like seconds behind. So like watching it on the screen, like seeing if something happened, then look right at the monitor and look again. So watching everything twice if you think it is. And then, you know, a lot of what I'm doing during the game, and like as far as like the video that like we're capturing for ourselves and the coaches like it doesn't need to be like on at that exact second like I can like go back in a game and fix stuff so for me like my main priority is is like watching to see if we're going to challenge play. Man that's a awesome.

I love it. How, how are you? If you don't mind me asking, how old are you? I'm 27. How'd you get into this? Post college. I got an internship with like the hockey ops. So did a, did a year for an internship with the team with Blue Jackets and then did like

two years like you know part time but like you know full time kind of helping out just like with home games and then the last two seasons uh been downstairs full time with the coaching staff just keeping it going so sick yeah so you like get them uh outside of the replay stuff you get them like packages for going over you know just like x's and o's type videos with players yeah just like getting getting other team systems down uh our one video coach he does more of like the five on five stuff you know four checks neutral zones like de zone coverage like things like that um and then i get the special team stuff ready for our power playing pk coach who are going to go over it so we all kind of like have our own job but yeah the days leading up to like i typically am working like three

four games behind and then just pulling all that video for the coaches and then they all just rip it through it's amazing it's amazing it's absolutely amazing yeah i mean we're watching like we're watching three four games of a team before we play them and then then using all, like, it goes from like 175 video clips to like 100 to like 45 to like 30. And then we show the team like 12. So like it all just gets chopped down like through like meetings and like each person's eye who gets on it. Dude, I cannot wait for games. When CBJ has a goal ballback against the opponent, we're going to go crazy.

You know, it's funny. It's funny. I'm from Jersey originally and like we played the doubles like last week of the season. So like all my buddies like my family were all. the game and we had a challenge we called the goal back and like they're losing their minds in the stands and like they're all huge doubles fans and they're like what's wrong with you like we just got to this is something to look forward to for next season or 100% wow all right Aaron this is great I love yeah do well thanks for hopping on that was awesome perfect insight happy to help out guys

love talking thanks man yeah appreciate it that's great what a gig what a funny thing where you take away happiness from the other team. That's like, that's your job. That's a cool gig. I don't know. Yeah. That's like he's obviously, he probably played like growing up and he just loves hockey and like this is how

you getting into a sport do you love. You're just like, I'm going to be the video guy. I'm going to try to take calls and goals off the off the board. That's pretty cool. Really cool. I love that. Really cool. And that's just a lot of work too.

Oh, yeah. Watching a lot of brutal work. He said it pretty like nonchalant, but watching three or four games of a team before they come into town is just. just a lot of watching games. I mean, that's like nine hours worth of watching games. It's like footage. Yeah.

Imagine two, you're watching like the Arizona coyotes for fucking four games before. Just be it like, he probably sees the differences of like you could see Carolina has a ridiculously, ridiculously, ridiculously aggressive penalty kill. And like they do something that other teams don't. And he's like highlighting that stuff and showing like this guy goes here when it goes

there. And you could actually see the difference. And we should go. here and we should move the puck here it's like it's amazing that's amazing stuff for just a fucking what i should have pitched in my play oh shit be like you guys see the much of this you guys see any of this because their play's great i'm about to we're about to change the world we're about to change your reaction you tweeted out your play you tweeted out your play what you think was close to your play and if that is true that happens all the time that little chip pass as a

guy goes flying in it's like a little bit it's sort of my play it's it's got the spirit of my play it. Yeah. The guy, because like when we talked about it, we were talking face-offs and then it lets the defensemen all get into the zone. What that video of the star, what they did last night, that's more of what I'm talking about where it's more of a jumbled mess than it is. All right, we win the face off. Now we set and the guy starts to move it. And now that other guy is going full speed. It's more like everybody's kind of spread out, but we need one guy going full tail down the ice. That happens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Seeing it and seeing it and seeing, you say like that's what I was thinking made me think like yeah that that that does work

so yeah you were on it you were on it Trent yeah no and I also should say that you know I don't watch hockey so it sounds like that's a play that exists but I think I made it up so going forward that's going to be my play we'll give it to you I can't wait for Columbus to call goals back next year they're very excited I like that guy yeah me too uh all right that was a fun little Tuesday slash Saturday show we'll be back um on Thursday we want to do for the cut second show of the week. Yeah, we got to do for the cut. I picked Taylor Pindra.

Did you pick him last week? I think so. Okay. I pick Tyrell Hatton. He's playing well. He's playing well. Oh, the Wells Fargo wagon is a coming down the street.

Oh, please let it be for me. I'm picking Doug Gibb. Nice. Do you do a Dan Rap pick. He picked Wyndham Clark. Okay. Very nice. Good looking guy.

I also in having a, I have a good gambling week with the Kirk show this week. I had two hits right out of the gate. I had Taylor Pindrith to win a matchup and Mark Hubbard to win a matchup on their Thursday rounds. And they both won. So right away, I got two wins. And then I took a Tony Fienow, Patrick Rogers, boosted one of those two to win the tournament at plus 550, I think it was. And Tony Fee now currently has a two-shot lead in the tournament. Look at this.

Look at this. I know. Some good picks there from that show. So yeah, we're looking okay this week. All right. For the cut, make sure you check that puppy out. We'll get that out on social so you see all the, so you see the odds.

It's a bet with bar stool. It might be more bets with barstool. And then it'll be up there. But Taylor Pendrith, Wyndham Clark, Tyrell Hat, and Doug Gim, all to make the cut. We'll be back on Thursday. Real quick, I want to give a shout out to Colonial Springs Golf Club,

our place. they are having their U.S. Open qualifier on Monday. So good luck to all the people that are playing at Colonial Springs. I'd like to go over there and just kind of check out like what's going on. Maybe I'll stop by see like how people are feeling. Tea time start at 7 a.m. I think I'm going to go check it out. I love that.

That's a tough golf course to play your fucking, your, your, uh, qualifier. Yeah. You play Pines Valley combo from the golds. I think it's like 74.5 144. Something like ridiculous like that. Like close to Bethpage Black rating is slope. So really ridiculous golf course so tight. Can lose every ball left.

And the greens are running insanely, insanely firm and fast right now. So good luck to everybody. God. I mean, I think they said last year when they did it like, what was it like? Around par was like a really good score. Like two under was like getting in. It was nuts. So shout out to Dan getting that place and Gene getting that place dialed in.

Fuck, man. US Open Qualifier, Colonial. Let's go. Let's go. All right. We'll be back on Thursday. Hit it hard. I got to tell you I had a few people over to the place last night.

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Mike Sweeney. Perfect. You might not have heard of Mike Sweeney. If you are a golf Twitter perv, like us on this show, we live in this bubble. This story has been told a few times by a few different outlets, but I'm told that Not everyone eats, breathes and sleeps golf like we do. So I'm excited to bring it to the foreplay audience. Before we start, I do want to give credit to Ryan French, also known as Monday Q info,

because if you guys don't follow him already, you need to go and do that. He was with the FirePip Collective. I believe now he's working independently. And this is what he loves to do is find these stories that you won't find anywhere else because he's the one digging through the mini tours, digging through the qualifiers. So shout out to Ryan French. and shout out to Monday Q info. So Mike Sweeney has quite the story.

He played in this last week's corn fairy tour event. But the reason that people cared and that it was an interesting story is because you currently don't have a home. Or is that right? Yeah. My situation now is better than it was last year. Last year, 2022 was kind of when I was living out of my car for a good three or four months stretch.

I still don't really have a home, but like I have places to stay, which is nice. Okay, so we had a foreplay first, at least in my experience. We record on Riverside on this app, and I told my, you know, Mike was asking if I needed to download anything, if he needs to download anything or anything like that before the interview. And I said, as long as you have a computer, you're fine. He goes, I don't have a computer. So I've never had that. And our last guest was literally world number one, John Rom. So we give you the full gambit here on the four play podcast.

Awesome. So let's get into your story. So tell me just a quick rundown of kind of the jobs and your path between high school and moving to Florida in 2018. Yeah. So while like my senior year of high school, I started working at this equestrian farm. One of my friends was working some weekends there. And he's like, hey, they're looking for some extra help. And I didn't have a job.

I was like, sure. So I ended up working there for about probably three years up until maybe like six to eight months before I moved. What does working at an equestrian farm look like? Mowing grass, cleaning stalls, bringing horses out to the paddocks, giving them hay, just whatever you guys are probably thinking. That's probably exactly what I was doing. I was thinking a lot of like big piles of horse shit. There's definitely a lot of that sitting around for sure.

Yeah, I've definitely had my fair share. So you're working at the equestrian place and then what? I started working at a bowling alley as well around the same time. I went to community college for one semester. Wasn't my thing. We'll just say that. And then so I started working those two jobs. I used to bowl a lot back in Connecticut because we had winter, obviously.

So couldn't play golf here around. So I needed something to do in the winter. But basically did those two jobs just about up until I moved. So you moved to Florida in 2018 and you turned professional. Yeah. What was your game like at that time? And what did that look like? A game was really bad.

Like probably, like, if I could put it up against, like, a strobes gain statistic, like, against the PGA tour, I mean, I'd probably be last in the field in every category when I first turned pro. Fair enough. Yeah, it didn't. It wasn't fun to watch. It wasn't fun. Like, in Connecticut, like, you know, you can shoot even Paul. You think you're pretty good. Then you get to Florida against people who play golf year round.

You're like, wow, I'm terrible. You know what I mean? So I knew I had a lot of work to do. And the summer of 2019, about six months after I moved here is when I really got to work with my coach, Billy Orr, who I'm actually sitting outside his indoor facility right now. I want to hear about the deal that you had with your dad. Yeah. So I don't know the exact time in 2018. It might have been like February, March, April.

She's like, hey, would you want to move to Florida? I was like, absolutely. And then as we got close to us going, we came, like he told me the deal was like, I could stay in their house. my dad and his girlfriend, Linda, I could stay in their house until I turned 25. And I said, you know, I got, I was 22 at the time. So I was like, that's, let's do it. Absolutely. And then what happened?

So you go to New York. This is all a drawing from the Monday Q. So you go, you go back. Yeah, walk us through that, that timeline. You go back to New York and then you come back to Florida. Yeah, I took an assistant pro job in New York because they offered me free housing and free food and a job. So I was like, I could probably save up some money for the next winter when I come down here.

And as you might expect, I didn't end up saving as much money as I wanted to because I played a lot of tournaments that summer. Like New York State Open, met open, traveling around hotels, stuff like that. So, I mean, I had a little bit of money and then I got back down here and I stayed with my dad for a couple of weeks just because I was playing a couple tournaments. And then after that he was like, hey, where are you going to live? What have you figured out? I was like, ah, I haven't really figured anything out. I'm probably just going to stay in my car for a little bit because, I mean, as you probably read in this story, I kind of had this whole like, I could pay for golf.

I could pay for a place to live. Couldn't really afford to do both. So I'm like, just put the money in golf. And obviously we're here now. Obviously, it was the right decision. Right. And this is kind of what I wanted to get into because, you know, we talked to guys at the highest level of professional golf who they don't even check

their bank accounts because winning $3.6 million or whatever it is doesn't really mean all that much to them. You know, a guy like John Rom, I was looking at the stats and he's already 12th in PJ tour career earning. I mean, these guys are playing for an unbelievable amount of money now. You're on the very, very opposite end of that spectrum. Yeah. Why keep going? I mean, there's people who are going to think about this and be like, why don't it would just get a job? Like, why don't you just go get a job and say, you know what I mean? But what is, there is something about this game that just bites you. Yeah, I mean, you definitely,

you definitely have to love it if you're going to do what I'm doing right now and do what a lot of us are doing. Like, if you just like slightly enjoy it, but it's not really your passion. Like, it's not for you. Like, you have to genuinely love and enjoy this. game with all your heart to keep doing what we're doing here. So what is it, what does it look like? Like what, so you, you qualified for the tournament in pretty dramatic fashion, take us through that, that process and then finding a hotel like, yeah, because the corn fairy,

the corn fairy tour is not five star hotels and, and rental houses for the week. Yeah. So just, just to kind of preface this, I, I went to the Monday qualifier. I had $1,200 in my bank now. That's the amount of money I had. Total savings check. I had $1,200. So contrary to what the stories have written, it only cost me 300 to play the Monday because I have Canada status.

So I get to save an extra 200 bucks as opposed to the normal 500. Beautiful. Nice word. So I had $1,200 when I went to the Monday. I drove up there with my friend Peter Bradbear because like I told you, well, not you. I told Kyle that my car actually broke down a couple weeks ago. So I haven't had a car. I'm actually sitting in my dad's car right now. So I drove up there with my friend Peter Bradbeer.

and we split a hotel room for two nights, played a practice round, and then obviously we made it through the Monday. And then you made a hole in one? Yeah, my fourth hole in the tournament. Yeah, I birdied 10, made two pars, and then just genuinely just slam dunked a four iron. I think the number was like 227 or something like that. Did you just think at that point, like, I mean, things are just going. This is like fairy tale stuff.

I know Ryan was like blown his load. He tweeted like, Sweeney's near the lead. It's like, bro, it's Thursday. morning. You ended up missing the cut, but was it hard to get your emotions kind of in check after like such a, you know, you make it through. You get your first start in a corn fairy tour event and then you ace the fourth hole. It's hard not to think that someone's tapped you on the shoulder. Yeah. I mean, I've always just kind of been take everything as it comes and just kind of stay in the moment, relaxed. Like I've always feel like I've been very good at that regardless of what my

scenario is. So like I wasn't really freaking out like my friend in the crowd was. All the crowd was freaking out. And everyone's like, oh, what does he do? I'm just like, I just went to the next thing. see shot. I was like, hey, let's get this in the fairway and keep it moving here. You know what I mean? Yeah, you don't want to get ahead of yourself. You played enough tournaments to know. Yeah, exactly. So what does your schedule look like? Like, what are the next couple weeks look like? So originally that was going to be my last Monday qualifier for the corn ferry. Right, because you played a few, quite a few? Yeah. Because I have full Canada status, which I think the first tournament starts June 12th. So I was just going to play a couple of mini tour events. Actually, three days from now, I have U.S. Open local

qualifying over in Fort Myers. I'm going to go play that this week. But it looks like I'm going to be able to make it to the Monday qualifier in Missouri on the 15th due to some good fortune and assistance I received from this week. So right. So let's talk about that assistance. So, you know, Ryan ended his story saying that you didn't have much money in your bank account. Yeah. Your dad is, do your dad pay for your hotel? Is that right? As soon as I Monday, my dad, my dad's been on a cruise the last two weeks. That's the only reason I have his car. So he's like, he's like messaging me through WhatsApp. He's like, hey, just like use my credit card, get a hotel. Just like do what you need to do for the week. It'll be okay. I was like, all. Thank you. How was the hotel?

I thought it was fine because it's what I'm used to. I was told that people on Twitter thought it was the biggest piece of garbage you could possibly stay in. But are we talking like bed bugs? I mean, apparently that's what the review said. I thought it was perfectly functional. Like I thought it was okay. You escaped, you know, not a single bite on your body. Yeah. I'm functioning. So, you know, Ryan posts online that you're not doing great when it comes to finances. You know, you couldn't afford a hotel. Your dad has to pay. And then there's this amazing outreach of support from this community of golfers online that

Ryan has really tapped into his audience, that they just love supporting golfers. And so what happened? Ryan asked me if it was okay to put my Venmo up there. And I was like, I mean, I wasn't really in a position to say no. So. And yeah, I mean, I think even. right now, I think there's still some people Venmoing me on and off every now and then. Obviously, it's

slowed down a bunch, but... How much money did you get Venmoed to you? Probably shouldn't say that, but I mean, it's definitely a lot more than I thought I was going to get. Come on. Five figures? Four figures? I mean, it's... There's no shame in it. I mean, what do you mean?

It's enough that I should be good for the whole Canada season. I mean, that's unbelievable. Yeah, it's absolutely wild. basically crowdfunded travel for a whole year of your life. Like what what does that money mean for you as far as your stress levels and your ability to chase your dream? Yeah, I'm still not 100% sure if it's actually like sunk in completely yet that I'm not going to really have to worry over the summer or struggle. Like I don't think I've ever had more than $7,000 in my bank account. That's strictly because I finished fifth at the mass open and got a check for $5,500.

So I'm not really sure how to handle it and deal with it yet. But I mean, it's awesome because I mean, I've been talking to my family and they're all getting ready to try to chip in to at least get me funded for my first five events, which I'm guaranteed starts in. So this is nice that I'm not going to have to, you know, reach out to them and have them put their heart in money towards my dream. You know what I mean? So that's, that's awesome. And right, you didn't play college golf. So, you know, and you said you didn't really, you didn't really start improving and getting better until pretty recently. Do you feel like you're still, is there still room to grow?

Oh, 100%. Yeah. absolutely what parts of your game do you feel like you can you can improve based on the stats from last week i guess the putting's got to get better i lost like two and a half shots strokes gained putting on each round uh first and second round so i mean there's the five shots right there that i missed the cut by just in putting so let alone two doubles and a triple that i made so um that's actually what i came into work with my coach we got me on sam putt lab we're taking the look at everything i got going on right now trying to figure out what the move is so oh dude you're

big time now. You got, you got the money. You got Sam Putt Lab. I mean, you're just, you're living like a PGA Tour Pro. Yeah, that's right. So you're staying with friends. Where are you sleeping in like these days? Yes, basically, um, friends couches for the most part. I'm probably going to end up staying with my dad for the last couple weeks until I leave to Canada. But at the moment, like I'll be sleeping on an air mattress in my, uh, my friend Taylor's living room tonight. So shout out to Taylor. And despite how hard this is, right? You're sleeping in a motels where it feels like there's bed bugs or people say there's bed bugs you're you're trying to scrape together cash to pay an entry fee you seem like a really happy guy and and i'm just you know

would you i guess you'd rather be doing this than than like a real job yeah because i mean like we said when i first moved to florida in the article i worked at subway for like a year and a half a year a little under two years and it's just like that was just the most brutal thing of all time like i absolutely hated everything about that so i mean the fact that i work a couple days at a golf course out in the carp barn and then i get to play golf regardless of what my bank account looks like like you can't really be upset with that and i guess the the sort of carrot at the end of the time or you know the potential prize of getting on the pGA tour and how much money there is like do you do you see that and draw inspiration from that yeah see i've i've never really felt like

the money was the driving factor it's just like i just really like winning golf tournaments and i really like having success. Like there's no better feeling to me in the world than just like going to a golf tournament and knowing you were the best player at the tournament that day. Like there's a certain feeling and like confidence and happiness that comes with that. And obviously like the money is great. Yeah. You feel like you're like swinging your dick around there. Exactly. I'm like a man. So I mean, it's more just like I like I said, the love for the game and just like the desire to want to be better. And there's always room to improve. Nobody ever perfects golf. So there's always little things you can do to get better. And I think just.

that desire is kind of what just makes me want to get there. Yeah. Well, you've had a smile on your face for this entire interview, which I think is pretty remarkable given your circumstances, though I suppose you probably feel like a rich man now with some money in your bank account. Not quite. No, I'm still salty. I miss the cut.

I'm not going to lie to you. Yeah. No, that's a true golfer's mentality. Well, we'll be rooting for you on the Canadian tour this year. And I'm really happy for you that, you know, the community reached out and supported you. and now you have some runway. So now you have runway.

You got to run with it. Now you got to play well to justify those, justify their investments. We won't call them donations. We'll call them investments. I like that 100%. Yeah. And then I guess like when you win your first PJ tour event,

you can pay those people back. Absolutely. Does that work? That works great for me, Dan. Perfect. All right. Thanks, Mike. We appreciate it, pal.

Thank you.