Fore Play - A weekend at Kisner’s

Episode Date: November 14, 2019

We spent this past weekend with Kiz in his hometown of Aiken, South Carolina. We played his home course, Palmetto, and recount what it's like playing a round with tour pros. Then we played Sage Valley, witnessed a Kiz & Dewey clinic, and a private Lee Brice & Tyler Farr concert. Riggs then (~86:03) sat down for a hilarious round table with Kiz, Chappell, and Dufner. Shoutout to the Kisner Foundation. What an epic weekend!!! You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We weren't in New York for a long time. Yesterday's show, I guess Tuesday's show, he heard us talk all about Pinehurst and Tobacco Road. Very unique format. We went through after each round, basically did a half hour or so on that round on the golf course. What we liked about it, what we didn't like about it, what kind of experience that was. because most of you out there that are listening,

if you're a golf fan, you probably watch a lot of golf, and you also probably play a lot of golf. You love to go on golf trips. You love to book them with your buddies, with your dad, with your family, whoever. So what better way to advise you how to do that than to just talk about our experiences right after they happen?

So big shout out to Pinehurst for hosting us, our boy Tom Pashley. Tom is the man. Who is the man. Yep. All of our caddies there. Logan, Austin. Thomas

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Scott'sdale He was driving to Scottsdale And he said that he was just like pumped up Right to run through a wall Listening to like Recounting like our Our experience

Now on this very show What we're going to do Is we're going to go through Our entire Kevin Kisner weekend It was so Notable There was so many worthy moments That it's worth it

For us to just talk about the whole thing kids is so close to the program. He's been so important for us in a million different ways, being tight with a guy on the PGA tour. He's the first guy that we were really close with. We've kind of been with him since he really started to rise. I mean, this last year was his best year on the PGA tour.

He won the match play, which is a massive event. He was on the President's Cup team two years ago, and he's just opened the doors. He's boys with a lot of the guys that we've been able to get on the show from, you know, J.T. And he's just been the man. He's given us endless, endless, endless, to. amounts of his time, content and all that. So we went down and spent the whole weekend in Aiken, South Carolina, with him at his home course, played around to golf with him.

So we're going to go through that entire thing. Last thing I'll say about the Piner's thing before we get to that is, oh, and also a little teaser where you're going to hear on this show at the end of it is about 15 or 20 minutes of a roundtable discussion that was incredibly funny with myself, Kiz, Kevin Chappell, and Jason Duffner. Duff is laugh out loud, funny, his little one-liners, but the setting of that was that Kisner's event. There was, you know, part of the entertainment for everybody coming and paying X amount of money for a table to be at the VIP event. Part of the deal was, you know, that they want

to hear kind of from the pros and a funny little chat, and it was just that. We'd all had a bunch of drinks, and we were just kind of firing from the hip, and they were kind of roasting each other. Duff was roasting Kiz about his short game. Kiz was roasting Duff about his putting. It was very, very funny. So that's coming up at the end of the show. Stay tuned for that. Last thing I want to say on Pinehurst is that for anyone upset that we didn't necessarily reveal all of our stories of Pinehurst, you know, imagine how vivid and interesting that podcast was. Now, think of that in like each day of that podcast, each day of that trip as like a 30 or 40 minute show that's got drone footage, that's got interviews with the president of Pinehurst,

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Go to that link or just go to the app store and get Supreme Golf and you're ready to rock. Okay. Aiken, South Carolina. We finally made it down to Kisner's hometown to Kisner's home to his home courses. He's got a couple clubs that he belongs to down there, Palmetto Golf Club, Sage Valley. We've got a lot to get to. A lot to get to. Sage Valley.

Just hearing that makes me tingle. It's a beautiful place. Just a gorgeous, gorgeous. Hard to not rank that in my top three golf course experiences. I don't know why. I mean, we've played crazy, crazy golf courses, Pebble Beach. MPCC, all these at West Coast places. I don't know how you don't put Sage Valley up there.

I mean, so jealous from the trip. Rigg showed me a couple pictures because after the J-C-O event for the listeners. So Lurch was a part of none of this. Yes, but I'm just coming back to say hello. Everything we're going to talk about, all our great experiences. I'm just like the viewer. I'm bringing the viewer into the room. Nothing.

Mm-hmm. Yep. So I had to go to Chicago for a work conference. What did you do all week? I had to present the people talking about data, metadata, metadata. Did you sit in a cube at any point? Last week? Yeah.

No. I was, I mean, I sat at a booth and then did a presentation to a room of people. What kind of booth? What do you mean booth? Like at these conferences, it's basically like showing off your brand, who you are, what you do. You sat at your company's booth. It's like innovation lab. It's like when he goes to the high school.

Yes. One piece of paper. One piece of paper. And I wore my company shirt with like a blazer on it. Did you bring swag? Huh? Did you bring swag? Yeah, we have like water bottles.

Phone char shirts. You really are in that whole world. Whole world. That I've been running from our entire lives. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And I'm just living the middle ground.

Right, you're right smack down in the middle. So anyways, Jake O'Envent, that was awesome. Then I fly to Chicago and we literally just, when you guys went left, I went right in the airport. Yeah, gave you a nice hug. Yeah, I didn't even hug you were just gone. You guys took an elevator up and then it was just gone, goodbye, and I was just on my lonesome.

We had so many bags that we just, we neck hugged, basically. You were so excited to see me and my bags go, I bet. Well, no, I wanted to, I wanted to give you a proper send-off, but we both had so many bags in our hands that we just like went chest and. You guys did a literal necking. Little necking. We did a necking. It was nice.

Part of ways went to Chicago. But anyways, about the Sage Valley, I was, Riggs showed me some photos. That place looks impeccable. There's, there's one thing that you need to talk, that they need to talk about, about him almost killing Chase Rice.

Oh, true. We didn't talk about that. I didn't almost kill it. Well, you just got, so Lurch is this big body, he's got a big baritone voice, everything about him is just larger than most, right? That's why his nickname Lurch.

Right. Chase Rice played division. one football doesn't matter we're behind we're behind the uh stage at the jaco an event everyone was like laughing it up and mucking it up oh where are we going afterwards you know people had some pops in them and truelys and drinks in them and lurch was like mucking it around thinking he's this like extrovert walking around like oh i can speak to people and i can like you know i'm gonna i'm gonna make a scene back here so he's like messing around people he we talking to larry fleet he's like trying to sign larry fleet to a contract and all this stuff half of the

Essentially, you're like, oh, you're incredible, which we all said to Larry Flea. And then Chase Rice, like, leans over and he's like, these guys are assholes or something like that, right? He said that to Larry Fleet, like, stay away from these guys. And Lurch, instead of being like, all right, he, lurch, like. Are you how funny? And I just come up. Lurch like, with his big, bigness, just pushed. He pushed Chase Rice to the point where Chase Rice lost his footing and almost snapped his ankle.

And he went through, like, the tent. Dude, he went, like, into the tent onto a pole and was like, oh, he had to catch himself. We're all like, oh, like, Lurch, really. I think at one point I said, relax. At one point I said, relax. I told you to like relax. Well, that's because you're scared of your own shot. There it is. That's exactly. You are. You are. I'm not scared about. What does that mean? You're a person. You're a person. Let's have fun with people. You didn't have to push him into the tent. So I gave him a light nudge. Chase Rice is fine. He smiled. He smiled. Off he went. I don't know that he did. I thought he thought he thought it was too hard. That's my, that's my take. Well, that's because you're just scared. What do you think? You're just live your life. Trent, what do you think? Because you're probably a guy that wanders around. I talk a lot of shit, then I run.

You only talk shit when you have the islanders and like Matt Martin behind you. Which is fine. And then you poked a guy in the face. You should have your ass kick for that. But I didn't because I know how to talk shit in the right way. I'd say there were two seconds where it's like, I don't know which way this is going to go. Like I don't know if Chase Rice is going to be okay with this. He was fine with it.

He was just fucking around us. What you guys didn't see is side stage when Jimmy Buffett would play and Chase and I were just standing there talking watching. Okay. So we had a rapport. We had some more rapport and rapport. banter than maybe Frankie's I just remember you like had you were rubbing you're rubbing rubbing nipples like you were like rubbing

you were like you were bodying him up a little bit I gave him one this is crazy talk you bodyed him away from the scenario you body him away from this from like the area yeah Trent Smirgin's mind and two of you look at me is disgusting by the way because you're both giddy that you like think you have a little fact toy that you're kind of battling me on but no I didn't

I have a photo of Lurch and Chase Rice standing near each other you know what I think it is Did Larch just... Chase Rice is about the same size? I don't know how much hanging out that is going on there, or you guys just standing here? We're looking at Jimmy Buffett. All right, there's a difference in Chase Rice standing side.

Just standing near each other. Stage side, stage side? Stage side right? Yeah, and he's standing right. Exit stage left. Either way, he's fine. We're fine. I think you just, you get a few pops in you, get a little loose.

You forget how big your body is and then you start shoving people. There's definitely truth to that. There's definitely truth to that. You did it. It became more of a country strong. I think I would, I always say I would have been a great 1960s athlete. because I never really went to the gym, but I feel like I've got some good old time.

I can see that. Yeah. You were born with dad's strength. Yes. It was just a very funny moment then when even like Jay Goan got involved. It was a little bit like, whoa, like, relax over there. I don't know. He just went flying.

It was like, it was, you know, it's like when Shrek and like doggy, they're like, when he like just tries to mess it a little bit and he touches him and he goes flying halfway across the world. It was like,

just relax a little bit. You're big boys. I apologize. To Chase Rice. If it affected you, I apologize. apologize it, though, was not the goal. It was just, you know, in good form of banter and laughter. He said, you know, watch it, boys. And I gave him a little shoe shoe.

Yeah. So the Kevin Kisner Foundation. You go to KisnerFoundation.com. You can go help them out. I'll give a really quick background, but essentially Kiz and his wife started his foundation a few years ago. If you recall with the MetLife Challenge, which Kiz won because of us, you're welcome Kiz. He won $750,000 for the Kisner Foundation. But he and his wife started his foundation a few years. years ago they do it a big event every year which is essentially like putting on a wedding or talking with kids about it he's got fucking people coming in from all over the country he's trying to get entertainment they set up a huge tent there's food it's it's a whole whole whole thing it's a process it's one event every year that they do the kisner foundation event they do it in aiken his home his hometown they do it

or near there they do it at sage valley one of the course he belongs to it's it's gorgeous we're going to get into sage and all that but they do this they raffle off a couple different things they auction off a few things and then they they sell you know table spots so that they can raise money for their foundation very simple and kids said to us maybe six months or so he always said i you know i'm not inviting any other media whatsoever i just want you guys to come i want you to bring your camera boys i want you to film whatever the hell you want to film and i want you to cover the event um and and just come down and have a good time so we did so that's the background of the whole thing this was the weekend kids have been calling me every week basically for three or four months he's like i got all right there's this schedule. I got this going on. These musicians are going to be in town. So he takes it very seriously. It's a big part of his, you know, his whole operation. His wife, Brittany,

who's an angel, she takes it very seriously. It's a huge part of her life, kind of running this whole thing. He's got, like, board members. He's got Leanna, who's a full-timer, who kind of like runs the event. That's basically your full-time job. So, again, it's a serious operation. We drive from Pinehurst to Aiken on Friday. About a three-and-a-half-hour drive.

Yeah. From Pinehurst to Aiken. We go straight to Palmetto, Kiz is like, look, I got these musicians coming in. They're going to play Palmetto with us. Turns out they got jammed up. They couldn't make it in time. So we rolled into Palmetto on Friday. Palmetto Golf Club and Aiken. It's a phenomenal, phenomenal track.

Same guy who designed Shinnecock, I believe, designed Palmetto. Kiz lives on the 17th hole. His backyard walks out to like the 100-yard market. We walked there once we got done. Let's go to kids's place. Kids just takes his private or his personal custom golf car. He just drives it through like the wedges and then he's just on the golf course. So that's how close it is.

It's a boys club. It's very chill. It's very relaxed. A bunch of his guys there. Everyone there is like boys with kids. The pro Brooks is like boys with kids like you do whatever you want. Bears are $1.50 at Palmetto. They're literally $1.50.

So we rolled in there. We had a couple hours to kill before we teed off. Kids is like, let's get a couple beers. Let's give Frankie a chipping lesson. I'm sure a bunch of you saw that on Instagram. You know, very funny. Frankie's just sculling chips across the green chunk and chips. He's like, are you ever going to teach me anything?

You ever going to help? And then he's like, just now just chip with your left hand. And Frankie hits like five chips in a row perfectly just with his left hand. No joke. I've never hit a chip so soft and high and short in my entire life. They were landing. Beautiful. They were landing four feet in front of me with perfect speed.

And I'm like, dude, you can just tell the difference when I get onto the course how wrong it is. It looked like your left hand was just a feather. It was perfect. The extension of your body was just a feather at that point. Dude, that, that chipping lesson and, like, all the little things that Kiz has taught me and even, like, Brownie and the pro there at Palmetto, and we'll get into all those guys. But, like, when they tell you the slightest thing, you just take, like, when anyone is standing on T-box and a buddy's like, oh, you think you're coming from the inside or whatever, it's like, it almost rattles you more where you're like, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. And now you're telling me, and, like, now I got to do this. But like when Kevin Kisner tells me that like I'm on my heels or whatever,

I'm fucking standing on my toes the next swing, right? And it works. Like they do things that they know work. They're not going to give you anything that's going to like ruin your life. They're going to give you things that help you. Now, I wish you would have given me a full swing lesson before Palm Meadow and not basically before our last round. Before Pinehurst. The one that the viewer saw was you green side.

And it was like, can you get this on? And you hit it as low and as far away from the green as I've ever seen. This is crazy. That was your first chip of Pinehurst number two. Really bad. We're not here to talk about Pirates. Really bad. But that was not a good chip.

That was not good. So we hang out for a couple hours with Kis and with Scott Brown. Shout out to Brownie. We didn't know him really before. But anybody who remembers at the Zurich Classic, you know, it's the team event. And Kiz plays with Scott Brown every year. They're both Aiken boys. They're both members of the same club.

They hang out all the time. They play golf together all the time. Their families are friends. And so we finally met Brownie, who's the fucking man. We spent the whole weekend with him, gambling against him. And they'll be playing at the Zurich Classic. Again, they lost in a playoff to, who was it? Like Jonas Blixed and like somebody else?

I can't remember who they lost in a playoff a couple years ago to somebody. But anyways, they've had a good run and they play the same exact type of game. That's why. 100%. They literally hit the ball the exact same distance. They hit it straight. Play it like the exact same game of golf. So doing alternate shot and those types of things in the Zurich Classic format.

It's not surprising to see why those guys dominate that thing and do really well there every year. But we hung out Brownie the whole weekend. He was awesome. And as we're realizing, like, the musicians aren't going to come. We're going to play as a five-sum. It's going to be the four-play crew, Kiz and Brownie. And we're going to play his home course. We're going to play from the tips, which is like 66, 6,700 yards.

And the M-O on the place is that it is treacherous around the greens, which it was. Like crazy runoffs, wild undulations, and just very treacherous around the greens for any amateur who hasn't played there before. So Kiz is like, Riggs, I'll give you, first he's like, I'll give you, all right, you're a six-something. I'm like a 6.4 index. He's like, I'll give you 11 shots. and then someone else is like, that's not nearly enough, right,

because I'll give them 12. And then I start going, well, that's like six aside and three holes a sudden. He's like, all right, well, fine,

we'll go up to 13. Eventually he got it to 14 shots. He's like, I don't give a fuck. I'll give you 14. So we played for 100 bucks giving me 14 shots. 14 shots.

Okay? 14 shots, which is ridiculous. I'm six fucking handicapped. 14 shots. He killed me. I mean, and there's a lot of chatter beforehand.

A lot of chirping before him. Kiz couldn't have cared less. I think he slung like one club. He just like was hanging out by the first tee. And he was entertaining, right? He's got his sponsors are in town. He had like, we had like six fucking groups went off the first tee on Palmetto. And Kiz is hanging there with everybody.

So he had a lot going on. But then we played and, and he gave Frank. So he did match play against me, giving me 14 shots. Killed me five and four. We'll put that whole video out. Then he decided to do 25 strokes against Frankie. Stroke play. Stroke play.

I was pretty confident. I'm like, if I just sure. shoot under a 90, I have a chance. Yes. I mean, Riggs being, you know, I don't know your average score, but it's probably like... 82, 83? So I'm talking like he's got to shoot 68 or better. Yeah.

They, so Brownie told me in the clubhouse after we made the bet. He goes, there's no way Kiz shoots worse than 66. He goes, there's no way. And sure enough, it's par 71. And I don't want to give it, I mean, you'll see the video. It's just a lot cooler. But Kiz was 5 under through 14 holes. and he played the last four holes with a five iron only.

So, you know, he couldn't have shot worse than 66. There's just no way at that point. Frankie makes a nine on the first hole. Yeah, so I walked up to the first tee feeling really good. I'm like, if you just break 90, if I break 90, if I break 90, he has to shoot 64. Yeah, I win. And, you know, I step up to the first tee feeling, okay. I just got the chipping lesson, you know, he said he was going to, him and Brown.

He said they were going to help me fucking, you know, catty all day and all this stuff. and I score a nine. I card a nine. I score a nine. You're so disoriented thinking back to it. He goes, I score a nine. Because it feels like it has to, your drive one into a phone.

A nine feels like a score, like a touchdown or like a like a home run. It feels like a big number. Yeah, you didn't make a nine. I didn't make a nine. You know, I scored. There's fireworks going off when you finish that all. Dude, I was in,

I was in places that Kiz has said he never seen anyone put the ball on the first tee. You know, like, I'm talking, I couldn't even make contact. I went OB twice. I was dropping balls, sculling balls, couldn't hit my putts. They were making it go in the hall. There was no gimmies. I mean, it was crazy.

And he was upset. He gained six strokes on me on that one hole. Yikes. So, you know. Five. Oh, didn't he make a, oh, he made a four? He made a four. I thought he made a three.

No, kids made a four. Okay. So he beat me by five strokes on the first. You're down to 20. So, like, all of a sudden, I'm like, well, now I'm Fuck. Yeah, and then he birdied the second hole, and I think you bogeed it. I think I tripled.

Tripled it. It was over. So then, like, literally after two holes, he went from 25 shots to, like, 17 shots. It was like, oh, no. It's to stroke a hole the way out. You know, it's funny, though, it was, like, for the video, especially, like, at some point, I ended playing pretty well. Like, I actually, like, beat kids in a hole, like, a really tough hole.

And, like, I played him, like, you know, a long par three. I, like, just beat kids. Like, I played really well. And then, you know, I went on a little par streak on the back. Like, at one point, he was switching. to the five iron, he's like, all right, this is now a match that I have a five iron in my hand, and I need to, like, beat you by a couple

strokes here, so it did get pretty close. Now he did use a five iron for five holes. Four holes. Four holes. 15, 16, 17, 18. Yes, he used a five iron for four holes, but it came down to the end between me and him, the 25 strokes. I think with a five iron on the last four holes only, I think his shot

68 still from the tips at his home course, but still. It's crazy watching that. And this golf course at Palmetto, We got a lot of messages about it that you're going to love it and all this stuff from people around. And it's definitely different than any of the courses that we played down there in the Carolinas. It's more like tree lined and it feels. I don't know if it's also because it was like the fall. It just felt different.

Like it was a lot more like elevation. It's very chilly. But like it was just super like you can tell a pro loves this course because it's like it's got like a lot of length to it. But it's also like has it. I don't know how to explain it. It's like. You know a video? Yeah.

But, like, that first hole is so unique looking. There's not much damage, but it's just, it's wide open. It's kind of like wide open. But then, like, you get up to. I thought it was more wide open than the Carolina. Then you get to the greens and it's like so tight. Like, there's nothing behind. The greens are just treacherous.

Certain spots you can hit the ball in the green. That's fine. If you're, like, above the hole, you're fucked. If you miss the green, you're fucked because you can't, like, get up and down. We're just not good enough. You have to pitch it way up into, like, a slope. There were some pin locations. Were worse than diners.

By far. Yeah, I thought they were, too. It was just really hard. huge mound that you and I were down in front of So it was, Palmetto was really, really I went into the street on the third hole. Yeah. There's a road.

There's a car? Yeah, yeah. There's a road that lines like the left side of it. And I, you know, I have a little cut, as you know. Sometimes we can do a slice. So I ain't left thinking it's going to cut and land in the middle of the fairway, which usually does. I hit it.

No cut. Zero. He crushed it. Hiked it. It goes straight. And we're all just standing there waiting to see what happens. It's not turning. This one's not turning.

It actually turned left. We're just waiting because we can hear this street there. Yeah, it goes quiet, quiet, quiet. Everyone just goes really quiet. And then we hear, it's just a car down shifts and it hits the side of a car. And we're just like, oh, fuck. And then we just kept playing. Just like if I get another letter, it's going right to you.

Yeah, I was bad. I was also, I thought I was going to play well there. I did not play well. I thought you were going to play well. The course beat the hell out of me. The reason I thought I was going to play well and going back to Frankie, he gave Frankie a chipping lesson. He gave me an irons lesson on the driving. range because I told him I was like I can't hit my irons I'm afraid of the ground I just pick it clean

and if I try to hit the ground I end up digging a hole and he's like he changed two things on the driving range two things and I was hitting my irons pure the seven iron you never heard in your life dude it was flushed it nuts and also there also on one of those I hit it it went right and I hit the catty barn correct that made really that one it's got a metal roof it made a really loud noise that one made me like I actually cringed bro I went down to my knees and like what would hit the catty barn and I was it I went into, I thought he hit someone's fucking, like, Cadillac or something, like a really nice car.

Like, I thought so, I thought he hit someone's fucking S and Martin at this. That's like a big tin caddy barn basically. He hit it. We just knew it was going towards the park lot and then you just heard aluminum. Boom. Boom. And I was like, other than those two, he had me hit my irons like crazy.

You know, taking a divot, the whole deal. I made a five on the first. Oh, he made a night. No, he moved the ball back. And then he said, when you look down, when you're looking at your irons,

how many knuckles can you see? On my left hand, I said, zero. He says, when I look down, I see three. So he said, make sure you can see two knuckles and work it back on the back of the ball in the back of your stance. Put it by your right ball, your ball testicle. And then just swing like you normally would. And I was fucking nukegown. Everybody's doing it.

I bet you so many people at home are doing that exact thing right now. This is just how I hit my irons. When I look down, I don't see anything. You have your club. You have your grip. Yeah. So you're on your left hand. Left hand.

For right. So you had to basically you had to move your left hand to the right. So you turn your left hand so you can see knuckles. Right. And then you're right there. And I could see two knuckles. And then he's like, just swing. And I swung probably five times.

And it was unlike anything I've ever felt. It really was, man. You were flushing the golf ball. That's great. And I tried it on the first hole. I hit my, I had a good drive. It actually cut on that hole.

You were the only one on the fairway. Five of us. Two PGA tour players, a six handicapped, like a 10 handicap. And then Trent, a 25 handicap. The only one on the fairway was Trent. Probably 215. out there. Whatever.

And then I was like, I'm going to try this iron thing. I brought it out. I hit it. I hit it really, really well. And I was like, I'm going to shoot a 95 today. That's what's going to happen. And then it all fell apart on three and then continued from there after I hit a car. An early Trenti?

You hit a car. But then, but now I have something to work on. And that is a great feeling. That's like a really cool feeling of, all right, I'm going to, if I ever get out to a range, which is impossible in New York City, I'm going to go and I'm going to work on my irons. And that'll give me something. Because if I can hit my irons well, things will start to happen. Things will really start to happen.

Because my driver's fine. Everything other than that is decent enough that I'll be able to shoot in the mid-90s. It's the irons that suck. If I can get that perfected and somehow, it's going to be awesome. So let me say this about the round two. One of the more infuriating things I've ever experienced, a lot of people are probably wondering what's it like to play with professional golf or with kids. Kids is just like you would imagine him out there.

He's funny. He's comfortable. He's hilarious. And he talks an insane amount of shit. To the point where, and this was infuriating, Kiz is also way smarter than I think people think, like he is a very, very smart, witty person. For sure.

And his ability to immediately off the T tell us exactly how the hole was going to play out was infuriating. And he would do it to the point where, you know, I would hit my T shot and then within, like while my ball's in the air, he would go, all right, that's not bad, but it's in the right rough. That's an automatic bogey. I'm going to hit driver out there.

I'm going to hit a wedge to about six feet. I'll make it. Birdie bogey. I'm two up. And that literally would happen. And it happened like that. on every hole to the point where he would even predict it right like when he would lose the hole he'd be like ah riggs he finally with a great drive i know he's actually a decent wedge player

he can hit that to about 30 feet he'll barely two putt it'll be close but he'll make parnette birdie it's tough for me to burglis this hole so i'm actually gonna lose this one and you would do that and it would fucking happen you know what it was in fury it was it was my mind you were in a match with this or it was different just watching him and i was in a cart with him i mean he gave me 40 strokes it wasn't actually a thing we were just like i was just able to watch him and it's crazy you know what it felt like i was just thinking about this. Like, watching Kisner golf while you're golfing alongside him,

you ever play like a racing video game and they'll have the ghost car that's like, this is the record? This is like what you should be doing to make sure, like, you make the record. He is the ghost car the whole time. Like, you'll hit him and be like, all right, I'm like, I had like 220 with a cut. I'm going to be screwed going in. And then he just hits a drive and it's perfect. Then he hits a wedge and he hits an iron.

And it's all perfect. It's like that ghost car. You see it. Like, I wish I could do that. I'd be playing way better if I could do that. And he's just so consistent. And then he can put. I've never seen anybody put like that.

No, and you know, he plays golf like, I guess the best way he says, like, when you play a really hard course in the Tiger Woods video game, where you, you don't, it's not like when you play an easy course and you can shoot like 50 or 48. Right. But when you play those really hard courses and you can hit, you hit every fairway dead straight, and then you hit it to like 10 feet every time and it just comes down to how many puts you make. Right. That is how he plays golf every time.

He legitimately hits it down the middle of the fairway every time. I was surprised as how little he moved the golf ball left to right. Off the tee, he did a little bit, but with his irons and his wedges, they all just went dead straight. Like if he, he would hit a little bit of, like, he would hit whatever tee shot is required. Sometimes he slung a draw out there, but it only drew maybe five yards. And sometimes he would hit a cut that cuts like 10 yards, but he would hit the fairway every time, maybe he missed two fairways, barely the whole time.

And then his irons, he would hit them dead straight. And if there was like a front right pin, he would hit it 10 feet, left of the pin and like just passed it. And if there was like a back left pin, he would hit it 10 feet right of the pin and just short of it. And like he just played the whole round like that. If there was a par five, he would hit it down the middle of the fairway. He would have like a meter long iron in.

He would hit it to like 20 feet, barely misses eagle putt and tap in for Bertie. And it was just like, it was automatic. We talk on this show a lot about how, oh, Kisman's one of the guys. He's one of our good friends now. You forget that he's a PJ tour pro. He's so cool and down to earth. When you're out there playing golf of them, you never forget. Because first of all, in the first tee, I was like, I'm, I'm,

I'm not playing with a PJ tour professional number 33 in the world. We were nervous of shit. Everybody was nervous. Totally. And then you almost missed the ball. You did. You hit a badge. And you never.

You want to be worthless. You want to be like somewhat good and be like, oh, he. There's no water at Palmetto. I hit one into the water. That's a fact. They don't consider the water like in, they don't consider the water like in play. It's not in play on the golf. It's not in play on the garlic.

It's like a little thing that like water just, water comes from off the course. Water comes from off the course. course and like goes a little bit into where the carts go. And that's whole one. Whole one. You hit in the water on whole one and that's not in play. Correct. In your first round with a top, you know,

what I barely made contact. It's like a 120 yard carry to carry the water. And Frankie hit like a low, low bladed driver right into the one. Good for you for rebound and making spars after that. Because that would be. Yeah. And Brown,

Brown, he was just as good. Dude, that's what I was going to say. You can tell the difference between, uh, pro and average like fucking hack any day of the week with whatever club but i think the biggest difference comes with the consistency on where they hit the ball on the club face like especially off the tea i've never seen so when brownie and kisner both would step up to the tea they had the

same exact swing sound ball flight ball and and like the path to the fairway that i'm like i'm talking to to a centimeter of a difference like same noise where it made this like how like when we hit a drive, it's like a ringing sound and I don't care like what driver you have. Like if you, if they would have taken any of our drivers, they would have made it sound different because they're coming at a different angle. They're, they're hitting it right on the center of the ball

of the face and it's it's like a hollow, just like a perfect, perfect contact noise. They're doing what everything that's involved was designed to do. Correct. Right, our drivers are like, the technology that was created for this swing, they're doing. Our drivers are nice enough to give us like,

all right, we've made these, these heads are huge. You guys aren't going to, you're not going to fuck it up as much. But they're, I mean, they're just like, yeah, the equipment that they have, they're just like, I'm going to use this perfectly. Like, we have huge misses and it's nice enough to, like, forgive us on some things. They don't need that. They just hit it perfectly every single time. Also, the ease in which they can hit long irons is crazy. Crazy.

They can take a five iron from 200, whatever. But, like, it's easy and it's effortless, and the ball flies off the club. Like, it's never has a chance to be short, ever. No, it's right online, and it's the perfect distance. and it flies with that perfect trajectory every single time. It's the consistency for me, man. When you were talking about the video game, I just think the control that you have within the video game

of just bringing the joystick back and forward to have that in a golf swing. That's what they have. It puts my mind in a pretzel of that. Because when I take the club back, I mean, I have somewhat control, but nothing, really. It could go, really could go any. You asked me, like, if I was about to swing and I'm mid-swing, and you paused it,

is going to happen here, be like, I have no idea. I'm hoping for success, but I could chunk it, I could push it way right, or I could pull it 30 yards left. You know that feeling when you stand, like, you're standing on the tee with a driver, you tee that thing up, you say you're about to pull the club back, and then you look out there and you think like, all right, this could go low left, high right, high left, straight. It could be a cut. It could be a straw.

I could hit like a low missile that like, oh, there's actually not a bunker out there, so that might run a little bit. You have no clue. Or I could top it and it's going to go nowhere. Like your dispersion is infinite. it's honestly infinite at that moment. You think it sounds exciting, but it's not. It's terrifying.

You know, I'm going to say Tiger can hit like nine shots on the range. Oh, yeah. I can hit that at the top of my swing, but I don't know which one's going. I don't know where it's going. I can't predict it. It makes it so difficult to aim, especially the first tee of the day. Like, where should I be aiming? Because, like, if I'm going to draw this, am I going to cut it?

Am I going to slice it? Am I going to hit it high, low? I don't know. Do you think if they hooked up one of those meters to your swing that you'd ever be in the same? So you know how like the green would be in like the top and the green would be in the bottom? Do you think after 18 swings you'd be in the in the green? 18 holes or 18 swings? Like 18 swings in a row?

No. I mean the answer is no. Right. I would hope that I have. Kisner was in the same spot at his top of the swing and the same spot at contact. I would hope that I have like maybe like 30, a third to half would be like pretty close to this. Yeah, I would say by the 18th hole, I am using a completely different golf swing than the first hole. Correct.

100% completely different every time. I mean, that's definitely the case. 100% of the time. It is a completely new golf swing. So playing like goalie growing up, you kind of just go into the crease and you're just hoping your stuff shows up that day, like a baseball pitcher kind of like that your curveball drops.

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Dude, they just know so much more about the swing. Like, their knowledge of it helps them so much more physically. They're just human beings like us, right? They just have tapped into their brain a certain, like... They understand the swing. They understand it, right? Like, it's like their science. It's their life.

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Playing golf with these guys, it's as cool as it sounds. We have footage. We filmed the entire thing. Kiz beat me. He made a put on the

14th hole to beat me 5 and 4. Boy, can they read greens too? God can they read green? Brownie, so my turnaround, you asked, you're like, oh, it's impressive that you actually were able

to string a couple holes together having a 9 and I was plus 7, I think, after 2. It was just a disaster. Brownie started like, being like, all right, we've had enough

of this knocking around the greens thing. you're going to listen to me now, and I'm going to tell you where to put. And boy, did I fucking start putting. Like, he was draining me in from 15, 20 feet. He's like, just put right here, Frankie, and do this speed. And it would just go. Well, I got you going on the putt to the picture thing.

Dude, there's two things that changed my game, and I'm really looking forward to playing again. And it all happened at the end of this fucking trip. Yeah, I did. Which sucks because, like, I mean, I guess it's better for the video. When you find a hot streak at the end of a trip, it's so fun. I really think it's just massive changes to my game that will help. me score significant. Right. Like I could have used that iron lesson in any uptick in Varel Beach as opposed to Aiken South Carolina. Pynhurst, that was a nightmare

until I got like a good caddy that was kind of telling me the paint to the picture thing. But I was blowing putts by. Riggs tells me, why are you looking at the hole? Like that's why you're three putting and four putting. Like you're you're 30 feet away on a downhill slope at the fastest greens east of the Mississippi. And you're like blowing these things off the green. Don't put to the hole. you, if it's that downhill, put to, or if your caddy's going to give you a spot, put to a spot that's way before the hole. That is your hole. And like, I used to caddy before. I don't know why I, like, I would give people lines, right? Like at Garden City, Men's call. I give people. This is your hole and stuff. But like, for some reason, it's like I've always mentally blocked that out when playing. I just look at the hole now and just putt to the hole and I blow it by. So Riggs gave me that tip. And then, fucking Kisner, which we'll get to Sage Valley. But we're at the driving range of Sage Valley. And he goes, why are you on your heels so much? Like he said it to me like I was an idiot. I'm like, I don't know. Like, I haven't hit a real golf.

I haven't had a... I don't know. There's no reason why I'm on my heels. I haven't hit a pure golf ball in 14 years. Like, it's like maybe when I was like a child and I had those like the little yellow golf ball with the with like, you know the plastic one? Of course hit bombs in their backyard. That's probably the purest ball.

You know why I'm on my heels? I'm scared, man. I'm scared of everything's happening right now. He goes, go on the balls of your feet right now and hit a drive and tell me it's not going to be better. So like, I was like, okay, I'm going to go on the balls my feet. And I tell you this lurch, I didn't. miss a fairway at fucking Sage Valley. I missed one because I hit it two straight and it rolled into the

rough. That's crazy. He hit the ball on a string. Every single hole. And it's just the balls of my feet. I was on my heels. I'm taking swings. I'm lifting up. I'm dribbling the ball off the tee. It makes so much sense. Yeah, balance does. Balance. Balance makes sense. And spine angle. You're changing your spine angle. Changing your spine angle, being on top

of the ball, on the balls of your feet, attacking the ball. You're not looking up. You can swing slower. And then Brooks was telling you, the Brooks, the pro there, was telling you to go back slower. Yeah, they're like going your head like 20%. Dude, you know what changed everything for me? Everything for me.

We talked about this at the end of our Sage Valley 9 and then before we got to the part 3, which you were lights out on. Which I was lights out on. And we'll get, we're not here yet to talk about Sage. We'll get to it. But I do want to make this point really quickly, which was another thing kids said is that your club should be going its fastest at impact. Oh, yeah.

Your club should never be going its fastest until it hits the golf ball. Which like was a little bit above my. head. I didn't understand. It takes you a second to process. You guys think about that. Because you think like your whole down swing, it should be going its fastest. And it's like, no.

It's like that's where everyone gets fucked up is they start, you get so anxious that like at the top of your back swing, you basically reach like your climax and your top speed. And then your transition and everything goes out of whack. And it's a miracle that you need from there to make good contact. He's like, if your, if your tempo is where the club goes, it's very fastest, the moment that it strikes the golf ball, you will pier the ball almost every time. Yep. I started doing that on the part three.

recourse and we'll get to that. But that was, that was like life-changing. And that was the very end of our trip. So I, too, cannot wait for our next trip. That means we're doing the Matthew Fitzpatrick where we think we're back. I know I'm back. I feel super bad. You say that one comment, everybody erupts.

I got something. I don't think I was never good. So I don't know about back, but I have now arrived. I feel that's how I feel with the iron. Five rounds of golf. I broke 90 once. And I don't think I'm, I think I'm going to play. I think I'm going to play light out.

Well, I would have broken 90th stage value, so it would have been twice. Yeah, I agree with that. We only play nine holes. Yeah, we only played nine. So let's finish up. The Palmetto was, if you get a chance to play Palmetto, which you probably can't because it's private, you've got to get out there. It's a very fun, phenomenal golf course. A boys club is a very fun crew.

It's not just like a men's club, but I meant boys where it's like got a lot of camaraderie. And they have guys like kids and Brownie walking around. The pro is a stick. Oh, yeah. Brooks? Brooks. Brooks came out. He's slinging it. How old did you say he is? If you had to guess. 55.

Late 55. Hitting the ball further than kids. Yeah, he was. Off to two. Dude, they were like, they were talking. They were like, dude, Brooks will come out of here sometimes with us. And sometimes he'll shoot like 62 and dust him. He was crazy.

He played in the Heritage at Harbor time. He played the PJ Tour. Really nice, too. He was so nice. Oh, he was. He was. He was. He missed their tips.

You got all these guys sitting around this, like, old school clubhouse where they have all this like they have a they have a southern style they have a dinner napkin from augusta right is that yeah yeah from the masters you know they have all these signatures from these old school people like byron nelson brian nelson bobby jones it was really cool vibes because you're only 25 minutes away from august which we'll get to the next thing i want to say uh afterwards we go over to kis's house um he and his wife welcome us over to this house he and his wife welcome us over to his house he got a bunch of friends visiting as well so they're probably like 15 20 people over at kiz's house uh we have been drinking all day so we kind of

of like stumble over to kids his fucking house uh he's got his trophy from winning the wgc match play sitting on the thing and he's like boys we got a drink out of this like i never drank out of this before like what so we filled that thing up with cheer first of all he almost dropped it oh yeah it's on top of this insanely close to drop it's on this really high like uh shelf and he's like grabbing it because kids is not the tallest person in the world it's actually pretty funny watching him struggle to get this we were chirping him so hard you're too high for you so it is too high for him and he's trying to like kind of slide it off and it's fucking made out of like there's a bunch of parts

to it like I don't think he realized it yeah the bottom comes off and he I don't think he looks like one cup but like the more you move it it like the middle comes away from the bottom and the top falls off and boy we almost had I mean people ran to his rescue and like yeah what was it like a ceramic it was like ceramic it's like making a pot

class yeah so if you drop that thing it's gonna it's gonna be in 75 pieces yeah it wasn't like a boxed that thing no yeah so he uh so he gets a trophy we ripped the top off we pour a bunch beer and we're all drinking out of his trophy. He's like, y'all want a flag? He goes and gets a flag and, like, signs our flag and churps all of us on one of the flags from the tournament.

We hung out with his wife, who's an absolute angel, and she's like, you guys need anything, like you need any snacks. Here's where all the drinks are. Great, great time. Yeah, he gave me a magazine. He was on the cover of Golf Digest, maybe, and it was about puring your irons. And he was like, here you go, Trent, you can take that. That was me.

I was like, thank you. Take that to the bathroom and just sit down. I mean, he goes, Trent comes to North Carolina, a. South Carolina walks away with a magazine. I mean, I'll read the shit out of that article. I need it. I need it a lot. But yeah, that was awesome.

So then we went out, we went, myself and Andrew and Jake, we went out for a little dinner. We went at Kraft and Vine. Is that the name of the place? Craft and Vine is where we went. We had a nice dinner. Good spot. I recommend get the pizza. It's great.

And then afterwards, we were kind of talking to your dinner. We're like, how far is Augusta from here? I was like, I think we're in Augusta. We stayed in North Augusta, right? We stayed in North Augusta. And then we drove over to actual Augusta for dinner. And I think it's pretty close. look it up is four minutes away.

Augusta National. So we drove by Magnolia Lane. We just drove right over there, buzzed right by it. Couldn't see shit. So you crossed the state lines. Did you have to go over anything? Yeah.

There's no like tolls or anything? Nope. I mean, we're in the south. It's just a sign that said, welcome to South Carolina. Really? Welcome to Atlanta. Or welcome to Georgia.

Yeah. Yeah. When I drove from, I drove my car. Is our hotel in Georgia? It was in North Augusta, South Carolina. Okay. Yeah.

It's confusing. Yep. And then you go across the river, which is a five-minute drive, and you're in Augusta, which is in Georgia. So you drove by Augusta late at night? So we drove by Augusta at like 10.30 at night. We drove right by Magnolia Lane. You could see the Magnolia's barely,

and then you could mostly just see an armed guard standing out there. I think that's crazy. That is crazy. This time of year? I've also never heard of a town. What do you mean this time of here? Well, just... It's like when the course is open.

Yeah, yeah, that's true. Just thinking about up here and how golf season is pretty much over. Yeah, it's over. Yeah. We drove by August, it was cool. They were like, because Andrew, you know, these guys never been there before. Yeah, totally. It would be awesome.

I would love to. I think there's like January 14th. Yeah, oh yeah. I think always. I would say always, right? I think so, too. I would say all right. Yeah.

Arm guard is crazy. It's just a difference between just your average guards. I mean, it's the most famous golf course in the world. Let me say this. It was dark and it was nighttime. It looked like he was armed. I don't know. I would be surprised.

That's speculation. I would be surprised if he's not on. Okay. I would speak. I ought to be honest, I was picturing him with an M-16. So were we, now. Totally. That could have been like, you know, that could have been like cautious thinking all those.

Like, oh, man, that guy, he was like ready for war. I like the thought of him being armed. There's a huge difference between a guy who's like at the front desk taking names for people. Like me. As a security guard. Or a guy, an armed guard. He was like, no, no, no. He was not like a senile guy in the fucking hut.

Yeah. Like, what's your name again? No, he was standing out there at attention. Oh, yeah. No. If someone was, let's say this, if someone was clearly like a threatening figure looking to get in that lane who's not supposed to be there, that guy was going to stop it from that. Okay. Okay.

I like that. That's what I'll say. Do you guys agree with that? It's kind of surprised there's only one. He was kind of like a ninja. Okay. Ninja's are all. This guy has a mystique to him.

You just drove by him and we got to do it. Well, the road, you got to realize the road is like a major, like almost, it's like a four lane highway. There's like a denies across the street. So how much should have a look did you get that? Exactly. We can't go that. I was trying to go so slow and the cars was buzzing behind me. I was going like,

four miles an hour trying to go by it it's augusta national yeah is augusta is really cool wake up the next day uh sage valley so sage valley so sage valley is 15 20 minutes away from augusta it looks exactly like augusta it's the same terrain as augusta they keep it

and the same kind of shape as augusta like that that master's green basically dude it's i actually felt like i was repeating myself too many times every tea box i walked up to i said this looks like augusta To the pictures To the point where I think Like people start

Like the caddy was like Yep That's like what it looks like Like Shut up I had a hell of an experience In my caddy But go on to where you were just going

So we arrive at Sage And I cannot wait to talk about Frankie's caddy I actually told Lurch this story About one of the reeds that he gave Which is the greatest line I've ever heard of Caddy say But we get to Sage Valley And we had heard a lot about it

I think the background is like somebody Wanted to get into Auguster was trying was interested and and it wasn't working out. So this person, you know, founded Sage Valley very nearby to essentially be like his version of Augusta. Kiz told me that that is a, uh, a rumor, but that he thinks it's like bullshit. That's kind of my vibe I get to.

Because he said the guy like, he said that the guy built it for tax reasons and like wanted to make like a playland basically like with all this. And it is like a playland. It is. But the only reason I tell that, you know, rumor or is to to kind of like reinforce like how much like Augusta it is. Well, I think 90. 99% of people think that that is the story because I heard it from multiple people that

heard that we were playing there. And Kiz is just like Kiz. You know, Kiz is like, nah, he's like that's some bullshit. Kiz doesn't even like playing certain courses like he, you know,

because of layouts and, and designers and stuff. So he's, when you talk to the best of the best, they're different, right? With like, quite different.

They don't have like the amateur way of thinking. So we roll up to Sage and it was everything you could imagine. It's southern hospitality. They're taking care of everything. There's cottages all over the property. The, The clubhouse and locker room was, for an amenities guy Lurch, I'm rattled that you missed it because the locker room,

you would have been Mr. Taltime the whole damn day. We get there. They're like, anything that you all need. You're with Mr. Kisner. Anything you all need. We're like, yeah, we'll do like a drink. They gave us these transfusions that came in like these like chalices, these like big goblets of transfusions that we got.

And then we had a phenomenal breakfast. They said you got to get the biscuits and gravy. they brought us like on the house. Biscuits and gravy. Complements of the chef. Complements of the chef. Delicious breakfast. Look about a feel good meal.

Biscuits and gravy. Oh, man. Come on. That's a good comfort food. That is a comfort food. That might be number one. Especially when it's chilly out and they give you warm biscuits and gravy. The biscuit just melts in your mouth with that hot gravy.

I sit on the bathroom. I sit on the bathroom. You go stumble around the bathroom. Dude, the showers were Aaron Hills level. Yes, they were. That white tile. This is a place. If you're walking on the floor and you're thinking in your head,

I wish it was a little warmer. The floor is just becoming here. It was that. It senses your brain just good. And there was like, it was cool too where the locker room, like the actual rows of lockers just opened up into like the main locker room, like boys bar area.

So like, it just all felt like one big thing. And it was all like this really fine wood TVs that games were on. And then we almost were like, do we even want to go play golf? Because the amenities were so phenomenal. We roll up to the range. The range is this like expansive range, perfect grass. The caddies, they got your bag for you.

They stand right behind you, which is always very, very nerve-wracking when your caddy stands behind you on the range. This guy's about to see what I am. He's just sizing up his time today. He's going to see. There's no hiding out here, boys. There's no hide. I think it's worse feeling than on the first tee because you really hadn't swung yet. And you're ice cold and you know this guy's going to be judging.

judging you the whole day, judging your character, judging how much money you have, all this stuff. He's like, I hate this. It actually makes it easier when the caddies are kind of jawing themselves and not paying attention to you. I think at Aaron Hills, they were just talking amongst themselves for at least my first 10 to 15 swings, so that made it easier. But you know, they're always looking. Oh, they're always. They're picking.

It's the next four and a half hours. They do that as, I want you to feel comfortable. Yeah. You feel like I'm not watching, but I'm watching. Yeah, but I'm not. I want to know exactly what I'm dealing with. playing for a hike or are we going for a golf round? What tools do I have when I go to that first tee?

And I'm about to find out right now. Range was great. We rolled out. We played the back nine because we didn't have a ton of time. Like there was a, you know, we were there to work. Like, especially Saturday. We were there to get a lot of footage and make a video out of the whole thing. And there are some aspects of it.

We were going to, like, go up on stage and try to run this thing. So we had some preparation to do. So we couldn't play the full 18. But we played the back nine at stage and we found out very quickly like, holy shit. This place is magnificent. It looks and feels exactly like Augustin National, as we said many times. Frankie, my caddy Chase was the man. He's a fan of the show and all that.

So he and I had a blast. Frankie's caddy situation was quite different. So we roll up to the, you know, we had the whole experience and the breakfast and everything. We roll up to the area where we're going to be getting our caddies and the range. And Riggs had a caddy already set up for him. Andrew had a caddy. And I'm just standing there like no one's taking my bag. And they literally call on the monitor.

like I need another caddy out here and out comes this like old 60 year old actually I think he said it was like 59 58 but he looked whatever he looked like he whatever tall big black guy and I'm like all right well let's let's go like let's have a day now Clarence his name was Clarence and he comes over and I hear him say like I don't do nine I'm like oh man like he doesn't do nine holes he's arguing with the caddy master I'm like oh man like this guy he rocks over he's like all right like here's your clubs whatever I hit some balls, I tell you, I shit you not, I sculled and topped 15 balls in a row. Couldn't hit the ball. I was just like, sore, tired. You know how you can just hear it? Dude, at one point, things are not going on. Where you hear the strike and then like a tenth of a second later, you hear it hit the grass. Like, do, do, do, where it goes through the grass.

Now, this is, kids hadn't gotten to the range yet. This is pre-kis telling me to go on the balls of my feet. So this is where I was at, dribbling everything. I was on my heels. I was healing the shit out of these swings. and I see Clarence like pick up my bag and kind of like walk away. Like he just couldn't look at it anymore. I couldn't even hit any more clothes if I wanted to because he just took my bag.

It was over. I was just like, I went to Riggs. I'm like, my caddy despises me. He hates everything about me. He hates that we're playing nine holes. He hates that I can't hit the golf ball. He told me, he goes, I'm feeling under the weather. And then he watched me hit the bad shots and he got all mad.

I'm like, this guy knows he's in for a day where I'm going to be spraying the ball around. Yep. He's best. So we go to put. They leave. Our bags are gone. And we're putting. And then we don't know how to get to the 10th hole after we're done putting.

Someone picks us up in a cart and they bring us over the 10th hole. We drive around this hill to the 10th hole. And we finally see this course. We're like, oh, my God, Augusta National. This thing looks just like it. And I see the other caddies waiting on the T-box for them. And my caddy's laying down on the ground. And he just goes, you can just toss that.

You can just toss that putter on the ground there. I'll grab it later. I'm like, okay, Clarence, like, we're going to have a day. here. At this moment, I am, my eyes, I am bright out of it. This is awesome. Frankie is going to be a train wreck. This, like, psychopath has this caddy. We're going to hear about this for the rest of our lives. Like, we just started. I was so excited at this point. So I step up to the first T at 10th T at Sage Valley. I'm actually feeling somewhat confident. I didn't want to hit while, so kids wasn't there yet. And I'm like, can we please hit so that

I don't want the professional golfer behind me anymore. Like, we all saw what happened to me yesterday. I made a nine. I scored a nine, and I just don't want it anymore. I want to hit before he gets here. I feel pretty confident he gave me this fucking tip on the tee box. I just striped 10 in a row. I'm good. And set up to the first tee, and something happened.

And then Kiz drives up, and I'm like, all right, here we go, he's going to watch. So Clarence was there, kids is there. Long story short, I pipe one right down the fucking middle. Felt so good. It was the best job I had of the week. And Clarence looks at me, he's like, all right, like, let's do this. Like, all right, like, you got some game. Like, kids is whatever.

go have a great day we go out there and clarence all of a sudden starts talking to me like like he wants me to shoot a 36 today like he was so i i can't explain i think it was because my next shot like my next few shots were just so on right like i ended making a bogey on 10 11 i striped another one right down the middle it was like it's go time like this guy can play like i made a par dude i've never seen a player caddy have the relationship that he and frankie had the rest of the round they were like the same person dude clarence it was He was incredible. Started looking at me, and he would stop me.

And he's taller to me. A guy was probably 6'4. He was huge. Massive dude. And he'd be like, all right, son. Like, this is what you're going to do. Like, you're going to take this driver. You're going to put it out towards the left.

It's going to come back a little bit to the right. We're going to come back a little bit to the right on the green. We're going to putt for par. Maybe even make a birdie because this is a burtieable hole. Dude, I'm like, holy fuck, Clarence. I go out there. Crush one. He goes, that's right, boy.

Like, we're like, let's go. Dude, all day. I'm like, that's right. Dude, when he would read Greens, he'd be like, he, at one point, I'm like, Clarence, how are you so fucking good at this? He goes, I caddy to Augusta for, like, since I was 14 years old, Augustine National. He goes, and I learned some shit there. I'm like, I bet you fucking did.

He said I caddy for Clint Eastwood. Like, oh, I'm talking the, the, the top of the top. And I'm like, well, now you got Frankie Burley. And we were fucking won over through like five. We were playing golf, man. There was a moment, and this is the greatest moment I've ever heard from a caddy. This is the 11 poised. Sage Valley.

And me and Frankie, Frankie hits, plays the whole great hits one down the middle, hits one to like 20 feet in the green. He runs at about five feet by the hole. And I chip one on the guy, I missed the green. I chip one.

I got about six feet. I'm a very similar line to Frankie. And, you know, my catty's like, dude, I think it's pretty much dead straight downhill. I'm like, I hit it,

I hit it like, I probably pulled it a little bit or something, but I hit it just misses a little left and low. And Clarence walks right in and he goes, I hold on son. I saw something funky there. It's one of the all time. He watched.

That's so good. He watched some funky there. He watched Riggs. We had no joke the same line. He watched Riggs. Miss the Putt and he goes, now hold on son. Now step off real quick.

I saw something funky right there. I'm like, okay, Clarks you tell me. He goes, we're not going left edge. We're going right edge now. We're going right center.

This thing's going to come back. This thing's trying to come back. No joke. Thing fucking turns right in part. No joke. No problem. That's amazing. Right in the heart.

I saw something funky there. And it was the best call. And he, like, when he said, that with that voice, it took everyone on the green back, like, you know what? Something funky is going on. We need to figure it up. He had this old school old man's southern accent that just made you listen to him.

Like, I just wanted to sit down and just listen to his stories. Like everything he said was just had wisdom behind it. I mean, he said, what was the one thing he said about butterflies? Like he said, at one point he's like flooded down there like a butterfly. Like as I was hit an iron, it's like flooded down there like a butterfly and hit the green. And then the- He was. Because if you can make your ball like a butterfly like a butterfly,

Butterfly? Oh, my God. Just drift up there and then sit so softly. Yeah, that'd be nice. And kind of like blend into the scenery. Yeah. That is. So what was the par five that I hit the green two?

That was probably the 16th hole. So the 16th toll is a dog leg. 15th or 16th. 15th or 16th is a dog leg right at Sage Valley. Again, looks exactly like Augusta National. Your approach that looks like you're hitting into a green at Augusta. I bombed the drive right down the middle, a little bit too far to the point where it was in just like the first cut of the rough. I only missed fairway the day.

Clarence is like, no problem. We're teed up. We're teed up in this fairway right here. We got about 210 to the green. And now I go, oh, that's a four iron for me. He goes, no, it's not. He's like, we got some wind behind us. You're going to take a nice five.

You're going to hit this thing 190, and it's going to get there. I'm like, what? I'm like, he goes, do you trust me? And this is after me trusting him. I was at the point where I trusted him. I said, yes. He goes smooth a five iron. Take a five iron.

It goes perfectly onto the green. I have now maybe like a 40 foot put for Eagle. Yeah. So I'm putting for eagle and I end up leaving it short. It's probably my worst putt of the day. And now I'm putting for Bertie. And it's coming down the hill and he reads the whole thing. And it looked like it was going in for Bertie.

And as the thing's rolling in, he goes, let him know we know the man. Let him know we know the man. And like it just misses the hole. He's like, oh! Like he's talking about God. It was just so. It was just such a great caddy. And I feel so bad that I'd ruin the round on 17.

18 where the wedges got to me. I started chunking wedges. I was still hitting the ball pure, but, you know, I chunked him. I made a double, triple to end the day. I ended up in a bunker, sculled the fucking bunker shot. And you have great caties like that. It just excentuates around. It makes it for so much fun.

I told him, I said, Clarence, all I want to do today is shoot a 44. That's my goal because I was like, I wanted to come out here and shoot an 85, 88. I just want to have a good round out here. And the whole time, he's like, we're not just going for, we goes, we're going 39. We're breaking 40. We're breaking 40. You had it.

And I had it. You part 17, 18. I would have done it. Dude, I'm convinced that he, this is his playbook. I'm convinced that he breaks you down on the range so that he then like seems even more magical on the course because there's no way. And I missed. I didn't, we, me and Andrew had no idea any of this was going on on the pre-round stuff until we went over to putt.

And then Frankie like, whispers to us like, are you going to what's going on with my county? We're like, no. It was talking about. So I had no idea that was going on. But it's got to be in his playbook or something because he was on the course. he was as good of a caddy as I've ever seen in my entire life. He was just, he and Frankie were on such a same page. It was magical to behold.

He made the experience great. Same with like Logan at Pinehurst. Like if you have a good caddy that really lets you like roll the rock as they were saying like just you basically hit it where I tell you. It was he just made all the difference. And like he just knew the course different than even the other caddies are there. No disrespect to them. But like there were times where I heard the other caddy be like, oh, 175. And he'd tell me like, no, no, you're playing this thing 190.

Like the wind swirls. At one point, Riggs hit one really short. And they were saying, did you hear him when he's like, when you pass this tree, the wind comes back at you? He goes, it's just like Augusta, like at number 12. Like he goes, when you get past to a certain point, this wind comes back at you. You need to give it even more because you're going to flutter this thing like a butterfly. When it gets that high, it's going to need more. So hit this ball.

I'm like, Clarence, we're 150 on the card. And he's like hit at 190. I took like a five iron at one point from like 155. Yeah, that's full trust. That's full trust. Yeah, because it takes a bit to get there. Oh, yeah. For sure, because you're like, I don't know, man.

But this guy knows, man. You don't Patty at Augusta since you were 14. No, unless you know. Totally. Unless you know. So anyone that ever play Sage Valley ask for Clarence, you're going to have an incredible, incredible experience. You're going to have a striped the ball.

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You got to go to letgo.com slash Barstool to check it out. Part 3 course. So this opened like three weeks before we were there. They have a part 3 course at Sage. I think every, we think every course in America in the world should have a par 3 course because they're just as fun as it gets. So much fun. So much fun.

We have a little nine hole part three course there. Of course, I had a deal going with Brownie. So Kiz and Brownie and Tyler Farr and Lee Bryce were in the group behind us at Sage Valley, which is laugh out loud funny. Dude, I sent the message. I'm not the biggest fuck country fan in the world. I sent the message to my buddies who are big country fans. I'm like some country, I wrote some country guy, Lee Bryce is eating breakfast with us.

And they're like some country guy. I paid 400 bucks to go to a Lee Bryce concert. Dude, and Lee Bryce was like this big, like hilarious guy. He was a man. He was laugh out loud funny. Rocking Clemson gear. He played for them, and he was just ready for the game that night. And, man.

So they're in the group behind us, and Brownie, as we're walking out of the first tee brownies, he's like, you want to do a birdie bet rigs? He's like, I bet you, I bet you $100 you don't make a burty on this nine holes at Sage. This was when we played the back nine at Sage. And I was like, done. Like, you know, I can make a birdie. Come on.

And there were a couple, both part fives that had good chances didn't make a burty. So I go that hole nine holes, don't make a burdy. Of course we get to the part three course. I burdied the first hole, the second hole, and the fifth hole. Yeah. I couldn't miss. I shot two under on nine holes on the par three course. Now, it is a part three course.

A couple of the holes were like little wedges, but also a couple of them. Like, I hit seven irons into a couple of them. Yeah, it was a tough par three course. And it was like, I don't know. We were talking about how this is like a gust of level. These are like, it was very, very nice and difficult. And some of the greens had a lot of movement to them.

It was tough. There was bunkers everywhere. Everywhere. Sure. But the part three course was, it was so much fun. We had a couple double transfusions. Shout out to my guy Chase, who was on my bag, who was getting us through that nine holes playing lights out golf.

And then right after that, kids, you know, we went in, we showered up. We had a couple drinks in the clubhouse with Tyler Farr and Lee Bryce and Brownie and Kevin Kisner, which, again, is preposterous. Kiz then did like a clinic where Dewey showed up. Our boy, Dewey. Duy. Duis is a catty for 11 years they're going on. So nice and so full of love.

and energy. So funny. It's every time we see him again, it's like. Brings a smile with your face. Yeah, it's like seeing an old friend because he is. He's just a friend now. And every time we see him, he's the nice to do in the world. He was great on the mic.

He is. He is good on the mic. He's like, he can tell stories and obviously kids will like throw it to him. And he'd be like, oh, boy. He tells the whole story. It's awesome. They're rapport. They're great together.

They are. So they did like a, you know, one of those classic driving range clinics right right in front of everyone where kids is hitting shots. Dui's like calling him talking about their process. how they factor in wind. What's the most important thing to them? You know, how important it is to shape the shot correctly off the T to make sure it ends up in the fairway, like all that stuff.

And then people were calling out shots. Like, oh, kids hit like, you know, hit a five-iron. It was like a little cut. He would just do it. So it was the clinic was very cool. They had J.T., who is, uh, kids' swing coach was there. He was kind of chirping back. I think Frankie got roasted like 15 times during the clinic.

Every time Kiz wanted to explain where not to hit it on a green or like what not to do at the swing. he'd say like we don't want to be like frankie there like so he was showing like little wedges into this par three and be like all right so we left that on the wrong side you don't want to be like frankie and just like spray it everywhere and everyone would get a chuckle at one point i was like this is your fucking if like like like i said out i'm like this is your fucking event kids stop stop bringing me down all right like just go go hit golf balls i was like starting to get a little like upset no i actually wasn't but i don't regret if you had attacked kissner

fuck you kids what what that'd be great for the video it is talking about my wedges every second of the day, man. It also was crazy that, like, kids was, like, look into us to, like, almost, like, break the ice. That's how close we've gotten with kids. Right?

Like, he, like, make eye contact with us and, like, and, like, and, like, he can't hit a wedge for his life and, like, and, like,

and, like, the crowd would kind of chuckle. Yeah. Like, we've gotten to this guy. Right. Right. Right. For sure.

For sure. For sure. For sure. For sure. Oh, yeah. And that's what we did. And that was kind of our, that was kind of our,

That was what we were there to be made fun of, basically. It's like anytime he needs to community. That's my whole existence. That is kind of. That's kind of true. You should make fun of us. Yeah. Like,

it's fine. It's obviously like a serious foundation event. But if you can make fun of somebody, it lightens the mood. Always. And so Kiz had, I think he had like 18 pros that showed up to the event. There was golf on Sunday,

which we ended up taking off. So we weren't there for golf on Sunday, but there was golf on Sunday. A bunch of pros showed up. So before the dinner and after the clinic, you know, there's, I think it's like the Tom Fasio Cabin,

is what it was or the cottage. And we were hanging out up there in this area where the pros are arriving. Our buddy Kevin Chappell showed up. Frankie and I, of course, played Aldera, his home club with him up in Seattle. Seeing him was like seeing an old friend also. Big time. He shot 59 in the PGA tour since the last time we saw him. I said, congrats on the 59 chap.

He goes, we're just getting started, baby. Yeah, he's fired up. Yeah. Duffner walked in. We never interacted with Duff before. So then Duff walked in, just like, just identical to how he walked in and arrived at the PGA championship in that video. He's the same level all the time.

All the time. He's like, he's just, he's like the Leo in the departies. Like my hand doesn't move. That's like he's just chill. Consist it all the time. Every minute of every day. It was very funny. So we got the round table thing going and he was hilarious on that.

You're going to hear that now in a few minutes. We're getting up to that. But, uh, but this was of course the night that LSU, uh, beat Alabama in Jake, our producer. He's the biggest Bama guy in the world. was actually wearing a Bama quarter zip and a Bama hat. And Duff, who is an Auburn guy, was just chirping Jake as we're like watching the game. And he's like, oh, you got to fire your coach.

It's like, what? That's a great line. It's awesome. Because Jake was like, well, we're still going to be fourth in the rankings and we're still going to win the national championship. And then what do you say to you? He said, like, oh, everything always comes up for Alabama. But I texted my friends and I was like, you guys will never guess who's chirping me in any sense of the world. then they just said who i said jason duffner and they said you should leave the room because no one

should ever chirp you especially jason duff that was a terrible story i mean it's a tough night for you and jane alabama it was tough yeah no it was funny on baby sorry about that that's all right but uh so you know we had the dinner and and kiz is very good up there on the mic he was you know obviously running show and and telling everybody about the foundation he's got his sponsors are there um there a bunch of stewies there that have bought table spots uh that are huge you know that are huge fans of Kiz and that love the show and all that. So we were kind of mingling, hanging out. We did the roundtable thing, which was Chappell, Duffner, Kiz, myself.

They told some funny stories. They're ragging on each other about their games and all that. And then after that was like a private concert, basically, where Tyler Farr and Lee and Lee were up there on stage. I loved a Lee Bryce comment from earlier in the day because we were hanging out with kids in the locker room. We're having a couple drinks before the clinic. And Kiz is like, you know, he's trying to make sure everything goes right.

He's like, all right, Lee, like, what all you need up on stage? You need it? Like, are you going to have any of your boys up there? what all do you need on stage? And Lee just goes, I just need myself in a guitar. That's what he said. And he also said, I need the Clemson game on somewhere. Yeah, he said that too.

But, you know, Tyler Farr had a couple of his boys from his band up there, which is normal, like, not a big deal, but Lee Bryce legit. He just says, I just need myself in a guitar. And they played, like, the four of them, it was Tyler Farr and two of the guys from his band, and Lee Bryce up there, and they kind of went back and forth, played a couple of their songs, played a couple of each other's songs, did, like, some, a bunch together, and played for a couple hours. uh up there on stage while everybody was just ripping drinks there was like an open bar uh it was a blast it was at like the hunting it was at this tent by the hunting lodge at sage valley which is like a 10

minute drive away so kids had like all these um sprinter vans also known as splinter vans that took everybody there it was a it was an amazing operation and it was as fun of a night as we ever had so again the kisner foundation if you're like i told kids after he's like thank you so much for coming i was like dude if we don't get invited to this next year i might fight you because that was so much fun as fun of a weekend as we've ever had so a big shout out to kids sorry lurch that you missed it

did bring you back something someone came up to us with these ball markers oh yeah I can't remember the freaking name atomic atomic ball markers yeah but whatever they go is cool and he gives us these these ball markers with these logos on him use the logo me and a towel right made a

lurch logo with lurch swinging and it's in towel time it just says lurch on the back of the fucking ballmarker it looks like a lady's golfer in a skirt yeah it looks like a lady golfer in a skirt or an obese man in the towel yeah either one but the guy did make his ballmark yeah he made riggs one he made riggs on with riggs z lasers and he had lasers coming out of riggs his eyes i look like a superhero it's awesome it's incredible yeah it's awesome these look great oh yeah it's cool dude but the uh we'll have all the footage

from this weekend we're going to have i think we're going to have three full videos like we're going to have the um chipping video that frankie got chipping lessons from kids we're going to have a full 18 whole round video of us playing palmetto with kiz where we all had different matches going and then we're going to have a video uh basically like reliving the entire experience from you know the concert sage valley um the round table all that stuff so there's a ton to come out from the whole thing it was a blast kiz is the man kis is the man uh brittney his wife an angel and uh and yeah i think if you don't go to the kevin kisner event next year the kisner foundation event next year uh you're dumb that's I think.

Dumb. Think about what we have coming up for people, like once like, I guess, like January or hits. Like we're doing a video from Tobacco Road, Pinerce number eight, piner's number four, piner's number two, the cradle. Palmetto. With Kiz and Scott Brown. With Kiz and Scott Brown.

Then we have fucking Australia coming up, which is just outrageous. And all those videos, like it's going to be nonstop craziness in, in golf video form. And we're going to be at the President's Cup. Yeah, the President's Cup. With our buddy, Tiger Woods, the boss man. Justin Thomas. J.T. is going to be there.

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I think Patrick Reed was probably the most controversial of all of them. Interesting that he left off. Ricky Fowler, Kevin Kisner, and Kevin Nye, I think, was kind of up there in a lot of people's minds. Patrick Reed has been playing very good golf lately. Yeah, that's not really the issue. Like what's that going to be like at that locker room?

Yeah, and that's the thing is like how rocky everything was at the Ryder Cup last year with him, with Justine, with the New York Times interview. He suored everyone on the team from the captains of the team to the playing partners to like Jordan Speat and Ty. Like he kind of sewered everyone publicly and then they picked him for the team. So it's a little bizarre. Having said that, he's what? like, what is he, 15th, 13th in the world? Something along those lines. Is there anything about, like, Patrick Reed being a Nike guy that, like, they want to sort of

repair his, like, team image with, like, how bad things went last time? Probably. Like, they told him, like, hey, I think you need to pick Patrick Reed so that you can show that he's, like, a human being and, like, he's not, like, uh. Frankie, where did you see that take? I swear to God, no, I just, and I'm so fucking dumb that I type to. Your logic plays out if it goes that way at that way at the, the president's go.

I typed in Patrick Reed just to like double sure that he was all Nike stuff. I remember him wearing the red and black. I'm kind of into that take. I haven't heard that one yet. Yeah. I could see that being a factor. Like I don't know that actually. I hope not, but maybe.

But like at some point. Would you be surprised at that? No. No, I think that it's like, I think that his image was massively damaged with all that. The one thing I will say is that Tiger Woods, as much like pageantry as there is around these types of things, like Tiger Woods does not. want to be a losing captain of an American team to Ernie Ells, who was like one of his rivals.

And no one in that world or that circle is going to be like a no person to Tiger. No one. No one's like everyone's a yes person. Tiger is basically the president of American golf right now. Like the president of everything. He has the executive of it all. There's no one that he reports to as the captain of the president's cup team. He doesn't have to report to Nike.

He doesn't have to report to like the PGA tour. He isn't report to anybody. They're like, you're fucking tired of what. You do whatever fuck you want. And he wants to win. And he wants to win. I think his main thing is like he wants to win. So I do think like, a part of me thought like that they, he picked Patrick Reed as like a, hey, us picking him and then him having a smooth experience throughout this week will like repair the image.

It'll make sure going forward for American teams that like Patrick Reed who's going to be on all of them is not looked at as a negative. He's looked at as a positive. but then I keep thinking like Tiger just wants to win there Yeah but it also it also proves that well not really because he Oh was he the best Has he been playing the best golf out of the people that were left off He's been playing really well then that would show that like Everything that people have speculated and said about like that when everything went down was like kind of true

Like Tiger picking him may show that like a lot of the people diffused afterwards being like You know it wasn't that bad like in the locker room I think a lot of people have taken it away Didn't Brooks say that? And like, Brooks was like, it wasn't that bad. You know, people are always going to, like, fucking take things out of context. So, like, I think that had Tiger not picked him, even more so, it would have been like, oh, I guess something really was wrong because he doesn't even want him associated with the team. Yeah.

I just think that, like, I think it would have been very easy to explain away. Like, if you picked Kiz, which I think he should have, Kiz is a 15, 4, and 2 all-time match play record. Yeah. Okay. He drives the ball straight. He puts the ball great, which are very, very crucial attributes to have in these team-type tournaments.

Likeable guy? He's beloved. He literally was the, he had the high, he won in the like, who do you like to be paired with most on the PGA tour? He was the number one choice on the PGA tour. He's loved by these guys,

all the guys in the locker room. He was great when he was on the President's Cup two years ago out here at Liberty National. Same side as the Barstall Classic Championship this year. we do. So like it would have been so easy to just pick kids, I think. I don't know that he would have had to like explain away a ton of Patrick Reed stuff. But then again, like the media are vultures.

I could have seen them all the questions being like, hey, Patrick Reed's clearly the obvious choice. Was it all the negative stuff? And then rehash it all from last year. Oh, that would have definitely happened. Right. That would have definitely happen. Maybe they wanted to avoid. So a little peculiar.

Brooks Kepka is kind of the big question mark right now because he's injured. He left, literally left Asia to go back home because he was injured. So if he can't go, it's like what happens then? Tiger made it sound like in his press conference that Ricky Fowler is the next guy up. I think he said like, it was so hard to leave Ricky Fowler off the list. Which would hope. So then we need two people to get injured. How did he say he goes, I as the captain picked Tiger Woods?

Oh, yeah. They did a third person thing. Yeah. Yeah, he loved that. He loved that. Yeah, definitely. He also did that. He like, one time when he won like the AT&T or like the, the, the, the,

The D.C. tournament, I think is what it was when it was, it's his own tournament. And he did a whole, like, I've always wanted to do this. Like, all right, now let's welcome up our champion, Tiger Woods. And then he, like, stepped one to the side and was like, thank you so much. The boss man's got some quirks. Oh, yeah. He's a little quirky fella. I want the boss man to be a weirdo.

Me too. Do you think I want that guy to be a normal guy? No. It's not possible for him to be normal. Nope. No chance. I want you, boss man, do your own fucking thing. Anybody laughs at you.

You just kick him out of there, kick him off the team, kick him off the continent. whatever you got to do you're the boss man so those are the picks and then myacoba this week this is the mac coocher tournament where he took a local caddy last year won the tournament won like $1.4 million and then tipped him like a couple grand uh everybody roasted him for that that turned into a whole thing so coocher's kind of in the spotlight this week as returning the defending champ in about as negative of a light as you can do uh so keeping on that kids all those guys they took a chartered flight after they hung out with us they took a chartered flight sunday down to tournament so kids and then we're playing good luck to those boys i think that's all we got shout

out scott brown brownie making 9.1 million on the tour just a fucking i thought at first i thought he just worked at palmetto he's i didn't know yeah yeah immediately right like i knew the name once i met him but like like seeing him i don't know i don't know what he looked like you know i mean you just see a guy at a golf course 9.1 1 million million he's so good he's and he's the man Yeah, he is. One of my favorite people I've met on the golf sports. He's such a nice dude. No joke.

He's so nice and he cared about helping you. Like, same with kids. Like, they care about helping you. You'd think that it would get, like, too far away from them. Like, oh, I'm a fucking pro. Yeah. Which is always great. Dude, I was playing, like, he was legit caddying for me against kids.

Yeah, it's crazy. And I was playing a hundred-hour match against Brownie. And he was, like, legit cadding, giving me really good reads. And, like, fist popping me after I hit good shots. Like, hell yeah, Riggs. It was funny. kids was chirping him he's like brownie's a pGA tour member he's like we've got to find him something to do on the weekends he's like maybe like uh be like in the national guard or something

she doesn't make great chirp yeah those guys are best best guys all the time i love him bowl i just want to be from there and hang out with them me too imagine just hanging out at palmetto kids was walking around eating uh dirt like cheetos chitos he loves cheetos he loves cheetos he says that's a one snack his wife gets him at the uh the that he wants he wants chino chico flay like ordered to the place they were all it was just so many beers it was so much fun