Fore Play - Abraham Ancer And The History Of Incredible Inventions

Episode Date: March 4, 2021

“The wretched Borrelli” comes face to face with Abraham Ancer (41:10) where he rationalizes his tweet stating he wanted Ancer to, “quit the game of golf” once Tiger beats him in the Presidents Cup. We dive into the media taking Ancer’s quotes about Tiger out of context during the Presidents Cup, his tequila company, what it’s like playing with Kiz, his caddie Dale’s diet and hot dog reviews, plus tons more. Before Ancer we react to Bryson saying he feels like he’s in Narnia when he works out, the most important inventions in human history, breakdown the 2021 Barstool Classic, and more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, four play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. We've got the whole squad right now is myself, Frankie Trent, Lurch. Big thanks to Jake and Brendan. As always, they're going to be behind the scenes next week all week when we're out in Vegas filming. So those guys deserve a ton of credit. Thank you. We have Abraham Answer on the show.

We got a little bit of history. The wretched Borelli, as old Hugsy called him, just chirping the shit out of Abraham answer when he played against Tiger Woods. This guy is cool as shit. He just was awesome. He got a great vibe about him. I gave him a great intro, and I want to, the reason I want to shout that out, A, you guys didn't compliment me on it, which I'm a little upset about.

And B, I have to say that I got inspired by Whitney, because I was watching some of the Chicklets interviews when they were, they interviewed like Crosby two years ago and McKinnon. And his intro, and again, it's like, I guess. I guess I'm not technically supposed to compliment Whitney, but whatever is one of the funniest people in the history of the internet. His intro for Sidney Crosby was just one of the most electric things I've ever seen. So I want to step up our intro game. I don't remember what you said during this intro.

It was when I went through the whole 28th in the world and he's got dual citizenship. And I'd say he might have one of the best beards in the history of sports. And then we went on the whole thing about his beard. The dual citizenship one, I remember. I remember you say that. I remember you said that. I remember, be like, oh, wow. That's an interesting fact. I like that.

That's a hell of a factory to spit out. Like, it was like your, like, pump up intro. Because I have the city. He went through the process to be a citizen in two different countries. And they approved him. And now that's, he could, he could live anywhere. In those two areas. That's pretty much what I did.

It was part of my, part of my spiel. And it was fucking great. So we'll work on it. All right. You guys don't remember it. We'll work on it. Anyway. Abraham answer holds a very special.

place in foreplay history. I don't even, he didn't, I mean, he is very essential to putting us in a position where we went to war with old man media. That was, it was that tweet from Frankie Borelli about how he wanted Tiger Woods to beat him so bad in the singles match on Sunday that Abraham answered quit the game of golf and, you know, old hugsie, Jeff Shackleford, all those old motherfuckers, you know, they got their panties in a bunch about all that and that really took us to a different place in a different level than we had been before. We've talked about the infamous car ride after landing in Tasmania going from the airport to the golf course and how that hour was spent going to war with old man, me in a quiet, a mostly quiet shuttle. We didn't say much to each other

until one person laughed being like, this is pretty crazy and it was full on war on Twitter. Also, it was extremely dramatic because we would go in and out of service. So you'd put a tweet out there that you'd be like, this could be a bomb of a tweet. I don't know. We're just kind of firing. Then you'd lose service for three or four minutes. Open up your Twitter and be like, oh, okay, we got some traction here. It was that car ride where Frankie Borelli famously coined the phrase, put him in a home.

At one point he said, I think I'm going to tell, I'm going to say to old Huggsy that we need to put him in a home. And it's, you know, history, it's a history after that. And he like workshops. Hugsie, Shackleford. They're all sitting there with their new white, new balance. and Suzanne, you wheel them over to the corner. They can look at the, they can look at the little garden outside that, that is in the middle of all their rooms.

This is such a vivid memory though, because like, obviously, we were going through Tasmania when this just exploded. And it's just like so vivid of us all being in that bus, scooting along with barely any reception. And just being like going through Tasmania and not looking up until we arrived because everybody was just glued their phones as ripping tweets out. And I think Frankie did just at one point just yell out, like, put him in a hole. Yeah.

I remember being very nervous about tweeting that because I had never been a part of like a big fight on behalf of like barstool and our brand like that. I'm always on the other side with Dave, like watching him murder people. And I was like, man, we're like going to war with a major media conglomerate of like people. These people that sit in the tent and they're complaining about us. it's Shackleford, it's Huggsy. All these people are going after what Barstall represents because of us. Like a tweet I sent something that we did in Australia. It was already a crazy trip for Barstall to approve in the first place.

I was like, I don't know, but then it ended up being the best thing we've ever done, I feel like, because it just propelled us away from that. And it allowed the average fan and the person with a brain in this country and this world to see like, oh yeah, these people are insane. and like the foreplay guys are just saying it how it is and they're kind of like normal like they're just saying things that are funny and that are just whatever someone says at a bar and hugsie saying something that he learned in his like speed pathology class in 1927 at the university of york and he doesn't understand what funny is anymore and he just gets mad at the world because it's

passing him by right also like their drives were coming from their own insecurities like we weren't saying that we want hugsy and shackle and the old guard to go out of business, we were saying there's a different way to do it, and we're going to do it our way. That doesn't affect what you guys are doing, but you're clearly bothered by it because you get mad anytime we do anything.

So we were just saying it's a different perspective, not that you guys can't continue to operate, it's just that we're going to do it this way. And so for them to come at us for no reason, we were obviously going to fight back. And you're right, Frankie, it put us in a completely different stratosphere. We also, like, we don't, we didn't know if we're Twitter war guys, right?

like we weren't Twitter word. I think we were mostly always like, yeah, we support the shit out of bar still sports, but like we cover golf. We just laugh about golf. We're not out there getting into these like heated debates. And like even if, uh,

some of us do like to be confrontational argumentative, it's always with each other. Like, and there's never a very serious underlining tone to it. Whereas when we, when we were getting into this, it was like, okay,

we've gone off the cliff now and this is real. And people are attacking other people's careers and livelihoods. and what they stand for. And you don't know if you're some of those people. Like are we? Is that what we do? And then next thing you know, like I said, we jump in and out of service. And we were just, we were at the forefront. We were on the front lines of what had turned into a golf media war.

And then the funniest part was the juxtaposition of like, we finished our little war. And then we just got off our van and we're on the beaches of Tasmania. And we're like, oh, we're just going to play golf for the next five hours. Like that was that was the rest of our day. at one point I called another grown man in Jeff Shackleford a miserable fuck just like you're saying like not necessarily Twitter war guys I'm not opposed to a Twitter war like I mean I've been at Barcelona for a while I've seen a lot of wars and I've been a little bit involved in a few of them but this one was you're right it was ours and to send out a miserable fuck tweet about another person it really felt great honestly what's saying that out loud is great like just what a tweet What's your favorite war you've ever witnessed or been a part of at Barstool? It's pretty easy for me.

It was when the Nate Dog ended Adam C. Best. For any Barstool historians out there, and I won't get it all right because it happened so long ago, but that's the first one that jumped to mind where Adam C. Best tried to cancel Barstall sports for, who knows, God knows what he was talking about. What was he writing for? What was he writing for? Oh, um, out. Fan-sided? I want to say fan-sided.

Okay. He was like his own website, wasn't it? What? It was like his own website that he had started or something. It was just like a little like Rinky Dink sort of off suit that wanted to be Barso's Sports. Rinky Dink is such a degrading term. And then he caught the attention of the Nate Dog, who we all know very well and like very much, actually. And he just went digging through Adam C. Bess old tweets.

And Adam C. Best had a rough, rough Twitter history. and Nate Dogg just sent Adam C. Best to the shadow realm. He completely ended his life and his career. Rightfully so, because the guy, he was being incredibly hypocritical, and Nate Dog sniffed it out and took it to him. So that is definitely my favorite Barstall war that I have with. He came out guns and blazing at Barstle, and he had no idea that we had this dog chained to like a wall,

just waiting to release at him and just bite his face off. And Nate, the day Adam Stee Best went after Barstle, his career ended. because Nate Dogg never allowed him to beat Adam C. Best ever again. I mean, he deleted his Twitter, right? Everything was over. He just didn't wipe himself all the internet. The dog didn't even let him breathe for a week straight. Oh, what do you think about this?

What do you think about this? What do you think about this? It's just like, holy fuck. He beat him so bad that we now refer to when something like that happens to getting Adam C. bested. Like that's how you know you got got by the dog. Yeah, I think his final nail on the coffee. and he turned into Professor Nate and did like, he's not even a video guy.

And he did the whole breakdown with the web. And it was, you're dead. The guy's gone. So I think you're right, Trent, that's probably my favorite. And, and yeah, I mean, as being a part of Barstool, I think it's been about five years from me and Frankie now. It's been, what, like eight or so for you, Trent? And it's like, at the point, at that point, you're just going to be in the trenches sometimes. Like Barstle just riles people up at times.

And the most comforting part about the little war against old man golf media was that it's easy to come from a place when you know you're right. Like nothing we've done is, you know, in like poor faith or to be malicious. Like we just make people laugh about golf and we're huge fans of certain guys on tour. And that's pretty much all we've ever done. And so like when you come from that vantage point, it's very easy to be like, no, we can get into it with these guys. like what's our track record? Yeah, and they just never really, they never understood,

and Huggsy, I'm sure, would like to take that back at some point if like the way he wrote the wretched Borrelli and how fucking old he sounded by complaining that I said, I hope that Abraham Answer quits the game of golf after Tiger Woods is done with him. We attacked that tournament.

We flew across the fucking world to go watch Team USA, play Team Europe, and, well, the international team. And we attacked, that tournament. Thank you. We attacked that as it as it was a team event.

We want the team USA to win. It was like I watched it as if I was watching like the 1980 miracle team. I wanted dominance. I wanted wins. I wanted comebacks. I was going to root for a winner and I was rooting for a loser, which we bring up in the interview with Abraham Answer. Like that's not very common in golf.

It's usually just match play that you see stuff like that where you're actually saying, I want you to lose today. You don't do that on a regular Sunday when you're rooting against the fucking leaderboard. you don't say like I hope this guy loses unless it's bryson de chenbo sometimes because his fucking videos are being outrageous recently bryson's on such a weird social media kick right now someone needs to get their man's as the kids say but um you know hugsy just didn't come at that we bring a different vibe to golf and that vibe is like we want someone to win so much that the other person cries that's like what barcel sports is like we we think that way with all of our sports

teams why can't we bring that to golf so i think we exposed a really dark and bad spot of the golf media and it was a long time coming for those guys. What was his initial response to you? What was the thing that like, what did he say back to you? Because there was, something about us getting like credentials. Like this is.

Oh, that's right. That's right. That really, yes. Yeah. This is what we credentialed. These guys got credentials. Yeah. He's fan boys get credentials.

Yeah. We got, yeah. That was like, I think that was the Shack comment, but that was also a day after like it had started to fester a little bit when we got the Kessler Corain quotes. And then people weren't happy. That ended up leading to amazingly like three months later,

I had a phone call with Bob Herrick from ESPN, who was at his son's soccer practice and was like, yeah, I just want to talk things through. Because I was, you know, that's very nice, Bob. So now I've seen whenever I see him in tournaments and stuff, it's totally cool and we get it. But, but man, we enter a space there that nobody knew the President's Cup was going to bring out.

And it came out, you know, in the context of, we had just put out a video that's got millions of views of us getting a fist pump on Tiger Woods or GM USA, once. We were on like cloud nine and boy, am I happy that that whole thing happened, but it's always, it's always fun to relive that and that is connected to today because one of the catalysts for that entire thing, Abraham Answer, who was a total stud for the international team that week, is on the show for about 30, 35 minutes. He talks all about the tiger match. He talks all about the different comments. He's got a tequila company. He talks about his caddy, Dale, who does the hot dog reviews

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I mean, he said, during a training session, Bryson says that he feels like he's in Narnia when he's going through these swing repetitions and swinging as hard as he possibly can. He feels like he's in a magical world. You guys have to read this article because the way that they describe him, taking these 90 swings and trying to get progressively faster,

today is the day, Bryson screams at himself, Do it right now in all cast. Dude, I wish there was footage of that. At one point, there's a quote that says, I need to get taller, Chris. Tristan screams, I need to get taller. I mean, it's a nightmare. This wasn't, it's not niche.

It's not niche to us because we have a golf podcast. We talk about golf a lot of time. But that's an SNL skit. Him yelling, I need to get taller, Chris, would go right on to SNL. if golf were like just as the biggest sport in the world that is that's incredible dude minutes later the heavy breathing continues he can't stand still pacing the room removing his soaked shirt finally lets a shoulder sag and calms his bulging neck it's like a runner's high de chambos

says dazed and dripping it's like narnia i'm in narnia right now it's got a fucking lunatic it sounds like he's working so hard that it taps into the dmt in his brain and it makes him feel like he's on an acid trip. I'm in Narnia right now. It's a runner-time. He's, what does he say? He's rerouting his central nervous of his CNS, and it's just making him trip balls, it sounds like.

Now I'm picturing him on like a table getting stretched out. Like for three hours a day, he's stretching his body to help team of the game's an intricate it. He's something. Move the legs, Bryson. He shouts that at himself. Okay, I am done.

I am done with this. I'm done with you right now. He's screaming at himself as he's sitting golf balls. Does it say screaming? Does it say Bryson? Yes, Bryson screams at himself as he attacks another swing.

He's fully in the Patrick Reed boat of he just delivers content all of the time. You might hate him. You might love him. I don't know. I don't really care. That guy delivers all the time. Like he is preposterous. And we, you know, like, think about our history with him.

We were so convinced at first that it was just a show and that he actually wasn't like a crazy person. with all this. Then we were fully convinced and now he's gone, what, 15x more off the reservation since those original storylines that he was doing. Like, he's gone. He's in Narnia. He's in fucking Narnia. I'm in Narnia right now.

We're lucky to have him. We're lucky to have him as people who cover the game of golf. We are blessed beyond belief to have Bryson DeShambot a part of this sport. Because I don't see it getting any more sane at any point. Like there's no

way it's going to turn the other direction. He's going to be like, no, that stuff, it just didn't work. So I'm going to move on to the next thing. He's going to push this thing that he's doing with distance as far as he possibly can. And I don't know where it ends. I don't know where it ends. I thought, like, you're saying, Riggs, there was a time when we're like, oh, this is, yeah, he's doing this different thing. He's going to try and hit the ball as far as he can and whatever. That was a year ago. And it's gotten only crazier since then. So I'm, I'm excited to see where it goes, honestly. Always. And again, he just delivers. He brings it. Everything he says is kind of must read. You can't believe it. And he's the U.S. Open chant, right? So it would be

one thing if he's like 120th in the world, pretty solid PGA tour player. I mean, he just won the U.S. Open at Wingfoot by six shots and did it swinging like a lunatic. I mean, he's amazed. I do want to say there was a period of time, and it was right after he won at Wingfoot where people thought he would, he cracked the code. And he was going to win every tournament going forward. hasn't totally shaken out that way. So it's like anybody who had that fear, and it's not a fear, but it was kind of like,

oh, he figured out the game of golf. He figured out if you just hit it as far as you possibly can, over all the things that are going to make you shoot a bad score, then you win every single tournament. It's nice knowing, and I'm not a purist by any stretch of the imagination. But it's nice knowing that you just can't figure it out that way, but I'll tell you what, it's really fun watching him try. It's so much fun.

And, you know, it's, it's amazing to me that you can still, after all of the research and the hard work and the, you know, 100 years that golf, many hundred years that golf spent around, that you can still come up with new ways to find new heights. Like, that's, I've already thought, like, everything's already been invented, not even just in golf, everything in the world. Like, how can someone come up with something new? but it's like we've come this far, but he's thought about new stuff all the time, new ways to swing, left ankle up, left ankle not up,

like come up with more strength, wit, whatever. And he's just coming up with or working on coming up with new ways to find distance that other people couldn't find for a hundred or several hundred years.

That is amazing. And at some level, it's extremely commendable. Yeah, it's a joke. This guy, what he's doing is, I can't look at it and not laugh in his face.

It's ridiculous. But also, you want the U.S. Open and it's cool that he's doing it. So I'm still torn on the guy. To this moment, I'm just torn on the guy. What's the most recent invention you guys like have come across, right? Like not an extension of something that was already invented. It's not a new app.

It's not a new feature on a TV. It's not a new speaker that's already been invented. Like what's the latest? See, like that's an invention you're showing us there, Lurch, is like the vision thing. Yeah, virtual reality. I would say that's pretty new. that's not an extension on our on already well that's what I wanted to get your feedback on is that just like more of the same because it's just a different way to view something or is that like I would say that's new like I was going to say an air fryer but if we're talking about extension that's an extension of an oven or microwave if you're talking about a purely original invention I don't know I don't know I don't know the answer either but I guess every invention is always an extension of something right like you're mopping the floor with a like a rag and you're like oh we can make a fucking swiffer mop and that's like an invention

let's put us let's put a stick on the end of this rag right or like now let's make a vacuum and you know what I mean but um damn I don't know like what I'm looking around my room thinking like what's totally new and I like the first video game was an invention it was like what is this thing like you can like you can maneuver the pong you can move the two players and hit a ball back and forth. Like, what does that even mean? Like, I'm trying to think of if we even can achieve that anymore. Well, that's what I meant about Bryson.

It's like, how can you get, how can you come up with something that has, there's fucking eight billion of us that have been doing this for years now. Like, what, how could you come up with something that wasn't already come up with? I don't know. I don't. Talk about underselling a human race. You go, we got eight billion of us who've been working on it for a couple of years at least. We've been working on things for the past, you know, a couple of years.

Yeah, no, it is hard to come up with a purely, like, it almost at this point, a purely original invention has to be alien almost. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we could be missing stuff that we're going to get tweeted at, but I- 100%. Something's obvious. There's something's, like, obvious that I can't. Like the wheel. That was fundamentally new. Like, what's the wheel in today's day? Right. It can't be like a Tesla car because that's just a car that's been modified to be different. Yeah. The invention of whatever that engine battery is sure, like that is a new way of doing that. But the concept of a car is not is not new.

I mean, the internet was like fundamentally new. When somebody created the World Wide Web, that's like, that's just that we're doing something different. Yes. What about like the plow? The plow was fucking huge, I feel like. Dude, the plow's been around for what are you doing here? What? What?

Hold on. Trent's with me. I mean, that was, I know it's been around, but I'm just saying that's like we're talking about invention. That, you know, somebody brought up the fucking wheel. You're telling me the plows old. Like, boy. Right.

I mean, come on. What are we doing? The internet may be the last great, like, original invention. Now, that could sound like the dumbest thing of all time if someone tweets us out a billion other, like, original huge inventions. Right. But where this room is, that's the number one, I think we can. get to. Yeah, I think that's a good place. Yeah. So when I was trying to express earlier that I

didn't express particularly well was just, and when I said a couple of years, I did short sell it. It's if you think about it, like billions of people have existed for what we've been doing this for 12,000 years or something since you go back to like prehistoric times. Dude, I don't know. I'm so bad with the years. I don't, how long have we been? I mean, humans have been around for like a. Yeah, they've been around. for way longer than that, but in terms of like civilized coming up with inventions and shit and like tools, I want to say 12,000 maybe. I don't know. I'm going to because I think like 10,000 BC and now we're in the year, you know, so now I'm going to go 12ish thousand years. Totally could be

wrong. Could be off by somewhere between 5,000 and a million years. I can be off by. And people have just been thinking about coming up with new ways to do shit for that long. And there's been a lot of them. How can I come up with something that hasn't already been thought about? There's just no way. Nobody outside. If you don't fall bar so close, you're not going to care about this next thing I'm going to say. But Tommy Smokes is going around the office today throwing craft singles of cheese at people. And he almost came in this room and I gave him a look that I was like, if you come in here, I'm going to kill you. He's just throwing cheese at people. I hate to derail the conversation, but that's just, I just had a moment where I thought I was going to get attacked with cheese.

What a loser. So the period of human history between the use of the first stone tools was about 3.3 million years ago and the invention of writing systems. But I don't know how much they classify that as like civilization or if those people were scratching shit on the walls and they're counting that. Right. I don't. Jake just texted us that track man is an invention. And I think that's a pretty damn good point. I don't know that we ever had the ability to use technology to track the ball, speed, flight,

spin. It's a pretty good piece of technology. Yeah, that's new. That's huge. I mean, yeah, huge. I would say the combination of trackman and the tracer. Like, imagine we watch golf and guys would swing, and no one could see where the ball went on television.

Like, you just couldn't see it. It was like that until relatively recently. Right. Fox did it. What was that? Really hoping that we just. Relatively recently. I was really.

hoping that we skipped right by it but i meant to say relatively and i sound like i had how many ls do you do you think are in relatively what how many ls did you just did you just put into the word relatively i put three or four and that's just not the way that it's supposed to be bringing up shot tracer makes me think that we're missing a bunch because like if that's a really good invention there's millions of others that one felt obvious too yeah that's the most obvious ones ever have um people tweet of Madison, we'll move on. The Barstall question. Before we go forward, actually,

is the shot tracer that kind of analogy, just in innovation on the NHL's puck tracer that was out there earlier? Nope. No? No, I think the puck tracer was a joke. I think somebody just drew it on and did it horribly,

and they got rid of it. I mean, no, it was a terrible outcome. Like, the shot tracer in golf is certainly way better, but you got to think that's just changing it from what the NHL try to do, which was horrible when it would go from like green, which was a slow pass to like on fire. My dad would call Fox. Like every time there was a game on,

he would find the number, call Fox and be like, this fucking sucks. He just hated it. Now, I could be wrong on all of this, but like Joe Buck was talking about Fox and like what it meant to golf and stuff.

And like that whole team, like when they were changing, over the U.S. Open coverage and all that stuff. Was it the U.S. open coverage? Yeah. And he was saying like, man, they're so revolutionary with their invention of things like the shot tracer. And maybe Lurch has a point where like that team was doing stuff that was innovative for

the NHL to try and like track a puck. They had this like, you would assume that the technology for Fox started with tracking the puck. And then they expanded on that to now track a golf ball just a lot better. Like that, like Joe Buck was in like. tears talking about how they have advanced technology on watching the game of golf and other sports so much by using these inventions of shot tracers they were the first shot tracer and usage of that on on screen there's definitely something to that because yeah you know 2015 chambers bay when they took over for the first time they were they were all in on being

innovative and not every part of it works but a lot of it we still have now because they they went after And to think that, yeah, Fox, just in general, has been kind of going after and trying to evolve the production game. There's got to be something there. I think Fox was the first, I think Fox was the first company this year to use that crazy 8K camera during the football games. It was either them or CBS.

But I'm pretty sure that, like, that first game, when we were all going crazy, I think it was like the Fox HD cam, everyone was saying, like this fucking camera on, on Fox. And we were like, who the, like, that was almost an invention that every fucking shot of the Seahawks game was that first Seahawks game. It looked like, it looked like a video game.

So Fox knows what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, it was Fox. I don't even know what that was, honestly. What's an AK? What did they do there with a dude? There was just this like, it was weak. It may have been like division football, like the divisional round or something, but it was later in the season or the playoffs.

And all of a sudden they show you this one. shot in the end zone of the Seahawks game. And it was this like gimbal, um, perfectly, um, um, like centered and balanced camera where it didn't shake it all.

And everything around the players was blurred out. And the players looked like they were in a video game. It was so clear and such a different perspective that you felt like you were on the field. It was the craziest camera angle ever to the point where like now everyone's using it. Like you'll see it. They, they were using it actually, um, in the last golf tournament, the guy's walking down the fairway.

You could tell that everything. else was blurred in the background. So then are we getting to a place where those are those cameras are going to replace the cameras that we normally see sports through? Or are those specifically up-closed cameras? Yeah, I think because of like the point of interest, like the point of view of the camera, I don't know that you'd be able to film a baseball field with that like field of vision.

I think it has to lock in on something. I think it would look super weird unless they can figure that out. That's another invention. But like I don't know how you'd be able to show like the wide range of screen. and blurth. Like you have to see what I'm talking about. They blur out everything around what they're focusing. It's like a portrait mode.

It's like a portrait mode picture, but it's real life coverage and it looks so good. Along these lines, it was announced that the PGA tour partnered with Amazon Web Services and they're going to work towards having live, you know, the option to watch live, every single golfer shot. Now, I didn't bring this up earlier and I'm not going to go too crazy for it because we've been around the block long enough to know that this will not work seamlessly. This will probably take a very long time. It will probably piss people off for, I would guess, years to come still, but it seems like it's a step in the right direction. So kudos to them, you know, it's going to

revolutionize, in theory, sports betting for golf, which is good, speaking of which at Bay Hill this week, Arnold Palmer Ivitational. We are going to do yet another prop bet, another booster, and we're going to have Jordan Spieth and Matthew Fitzpatrick to finish inside the top 30. Matthew Fitzpatrick loves tough golf courses. Bay Hills, tough golf course. Spieth has clearly been playing well for the last month and a half. So we're working on those odds right now, but by the time this podcast comes out, you will have seen it.

And so, you know, enjoy that. Hopefully you got on it. Or if you're listening to this late Wednesday or early Thursday morning, you still have time to get on it. If you are in Michigan or if you are in the state of Pennsylvania, Barstool Sportsbook, Spieth, Fitzpatrick, get on it. Two guys who once upon a time would be mistaken for each other on television. You remember early on when Matthew Fitzpat,

when Speed was near the peak of his powers, and they were just putting all the Under Armour guys in similar speed outfits, and Matthew Fitzpatrick would pop up before he was more well known than he is now. You'd be like, oh, here's speed. Turns out it's Matthew Fitzpatrick. I did that's... Bye, Arch. Oh.

Oh, you know, my heart. I just came. Get him, buddy. Go get him. See you, boys. How busy is that Axon business that you're fucking hopping out of here every 20 seconds? I literally go 9 to 7 p.m. Just like calls.

My God. Like I've got a laundry. Tonight I'm going to be up till 10 p.m. Getting back to people. You need a new invention to stop. I need to hire people. And that's his oldest time. You can go.

He needs clone technology. He needs another lurch. I hope he doesn't. I hope whatever drone is about to sell doesn't go through. Just remember. Come on. I know. That's malicious.

He's gone for five seconds. You already have done. No, I take that back. Barstall Sportsbook, Jordan Speed, Matt Fitzpatrick, top 30 at Bay Hill. And also the Barstall Classic. So a quick quick update. We've revealed the schedule. If you can go check that out, Barstool Classic.com.

Registration will open Wednesday, March 10th, at noon eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific time. And we'll have pre-registration 24 hours before that. So noon, Tuesday. That doesn't affect that many people this year. It's just folks that made it to the Barstool Classic Championship last year. And a few other people whose events were canceled because of COVID. There were some states we can go to hurricanes. So those folks get pre-registration.

But noon, March 10th, noon Eastern, Barstool Classic.com. You know, I expect the thing will sell out very quickly. So if you really want to play and you really want to get on it, be sure to be ready on the website. Noon Eastern, Wednesday, March 10th. It's going to be great. The Barstall Classic Championship is at Pinehurst, four days this year. It was extremely fun last year. It'll be extremely fun again this time.

And a big thanks to Truly. Truly's got a new thing out. It's iced tea and truly. And it is phenomenal. Really? Phenomenal. I, um, what kind of alcohol is in there? It's too much, as you saw off in this past weekend. But it is, you know, they've got the, they've had the lemonade that came out. Those were good. They've had their traditional. Those are good. These, These blew me away. The iced tea ones, which are going to be at all the Barstall Classic events, which is something that we're going to be kind of talking about, a good amount this year.

They blew me away. They got a bunch of different flavors, and they got their real brood iced tea and put them together with truly hard seltzer, and you've got yourself something that is so delicious. It's perfect for being outside and playing golf. So big thanks to truly for eventing that and for believing in the Barstow Classic for, you know, three years straight now. And they also, you know, they believe in the Barstall Classic before it

was a thing. It was like something that we just had on a piece of paper in an email maybe. And they were like, yep, we're in. We're going to sponsor it. That allows us to book Pinehurst. That allows us to not charge a thousand dollars a person, but to keep it at 400 person, a few venues. We do 500 person if they cost a lot more. But people got to realize on the entry fees. Like, we lose money. It costs us more money to put them on than we get from the entry fees. Of course, it costs a good amount of money. The food and beverage costs a good amount of money. Our team traveling around the country costs a good amount of money. All the signage, arrive and it feels like you're at a tour event on the driving range all that stuff costs a bunch of

money and pinehurst four days at pine hers for those that make it the championship cost a lot of money so you add all that up does 400 bucks per person offset that not even close so thanks to truly and to our other sponsors who have come in and been able to support that event because it allows it to be as cool as it is without us having to charge a ridiculous amount of money i get the 400 bucks a good amount of money but it could be way higher and truly is the best for helping us out. So Barstville Classic, registration opens next week. Be ready for that. You tweeted something out that really resonated with me.

And I actually, I've repeated it to multiple people because we've been talking about the classic with like buddies or whatever. And someone was like, oh yeah, like it looks awesome. I can't wait to do the Cherry Valley one. I was like, you see these people complaining to rigs about the price. And you said something that you're like, how could you complain about something that we invented? Or like that wasn't a thing before, right? Like we say what the price is, because we made up the tournament. Like, what are you comparing it to? I don't understand what people are like, how could that possibly be $400?

Like, well, there's a simple answer to that. It's because we just said it's $400. And we're a business and we're successful business. So like clearly we have gotten to that point. And what I said in the tweet, Frankie, right? I said, I don't understand how you can complain about something that previously didn't exist, that we went out and worked hard to create and make it exist. And that you have zero obligation whatsoever to participate.

They don't have to play. If it scrolls across your Twitter timeline, you go, nope, that's too much. Just scroll on to a different tweet. If you think back to three years ago or whatever, and say that it just didn't, it didn't exist. It's not an idea that came up. You would not, you today, you would not be complaining about anything. Right. It's, you know what I mean?

That's like how I'm trying to explain it. It's like, all right, you're mad at $400 and you can't play in it. Well, if it wasn't invented and wasn't $400, you wouldn't. you wouldn't be playing in it anyway because it wouldn't be a thing. So stop complaining and just don't play in it. There's going to be up every single. How are many golfers? How many people play in each one?

It's about 108 golfers per course. We have a few sponsor teams and stuff. But we 90 to 100 stoolies, you know, common golfers out there per venue and we're doing 26. So we'll have. It sells out in four minutes. So it's like if you're going to complain about the money and like not getting a spot, They're selling out. And like Riggs is saying, we need sponsors to even get this thing rolling.

It's not like your entry, entry fee is really doing anything. And on top of all that and this fucking complaining culture now that we live in, when you finally get in and pay the 400 bucks, if you're a good enough golfer and you make it to Piner's and you make it into, is it the top four teams, the top eight golfers from each one? Yep. So the top eight golfers from each leg of the tournaments.

I mean, you get to go to fucking Piner, stay at, this fucking awesome hotel, be able to be able to be in the mix and go to the range and play the cradle and play multiple rounds for the chance to win $10,000. So what the hell are you complaining about? Like enter it, try and win it. And then you won't be complaining with your 10 grand. So it's a no-brainer when you factor everything in. People clearly don't do that when they tweet things at us on the internet.

We're aware of that now. But it is always going to be frustrating. And the value, again, is a joke. Like, we could charge me more and sell the thing out. but we're not here to gouge people and we luckily don't have to rely on that revenue to drive the entire thing because truly and our other partners have come in. I'll talk a lot more about the other partners, but, you know, truly this, they're our title sponsor.

They've been there since day one. They're phenomenal. And look, like you get a full round of golf. Like Aaron Hills in his peak season is $300. Alone just to play Aaron Hill. So we're charging $500. You get a caddy. You get a round of golf.

You get food and drink all day long. you get the excitement of you could advance in a golf tournament and you get the chance that if you do advance that golf tournament you get three rounds potentially at piner's maybe four and food and beverage there so it's a joke I mean and you get a gift bag so like the gift bag comes with that costs us money after I even mention that like we come up we have to our merch team we come up with stuff we create designs that takes people's time that they get paid salaries to have to work on those things plus it just cost money to order stuff that goes into your bag so the values awesome to them It doesn't bother me except occasionally on Twitter when I fire back at people. So anyways, barcelagascar.com, big thanks to truly, and you've got to try their new. Their new ICT stuff is really good. All right. I think we're good here. Bay Hill is going to be great this weekend.

The Arnold Palmer Invitational, it's that time of the year where we get to see Arnie ripping driver off the deck on 18, which is one of my favorite clips ever. So I love when that circulates on Twitter. Tiger's one here nine times. So Tiger will get brought up a lot, eight times as a pro. one time as an amateur. And we all know Bid Hill. We know the 18th Green with the Rockwall.

It's just fun to get to this part of the year where you know the courses and we're getting close to the master. So everybody enjoy Bid Hill. Enjoy this conversation with Abraham Answer, who's a very cool guy. All right, folks, we're joined by a very special guest today. We have the 28th ranked player in the world. He has dual citizenship in Mexico and the United States of America.

The 2019 President's Cup, He went three one and one. It could only be described as an absolute problem of the United States of America, which I'm sure we will get to. He apparently dabbles in tequila. And I believe you have what I would call one of the most well-groomed beards, I think, in professional sports. It just always looks good.

Especially when they zoom up on you after those shots, they do those shots. It just looks really good. We have Abraham Answer on the show. Welcome to the show. Thanks so much for having that. And on the beard, I think I've just got it lucky. I'm not always on TV. And whenever I guess they assume in,

that happened that morning that I trimmed it. So I've been getting lucky. Well, it's always looked good and it's just stood out to me. I'm like, dude, that beard looks so much better than my beard. It's just old. Yeah, coming on this show, it's actually not fair because other than Riggs, I can't really grow anything. This is kind of as good as it.

Frankie is an absolute debacle. So you're going to look the best out of us, no doubt about it. To be honest, it helps a lot when you have darker, just darker hair. makes it more than defined that if you have blonde hair or you know what I mean that or lighter hair that that's kind of what I think makes the difference definitely it's just clearly defined and it's again it's just stuck out so whatever you're doing keep doing it um you mentioned you're down in san at so what's kind of what are you going through schedule-wise where you're at kind of with

with your game what's going on this week yeah so right now I just got back from the wC in Florida, which I thought it was awesome. Never played that course before. So I have just a week to kind of get prepared for the players next week. So I saw my trainer this morning. I like to work out and see my trainer make sure I'm feeling good. And then the afternoon, I use it to practice. But I've only had a couple days and I've got to make a trip down to Tequila Halisco. I've got to check up on a couple things with Fletz Azul. And so I mean, on my week's off, they're really no weeks off. I have to be really smart with my time so I can make everything work. That golf course concession, that golf course looked impossible.

It was tough, man. And we got lucky with the weather. I guess the last day was the day that we had a little bit more of wind. But if your short game is not sharp, man, it can definitely tear you apart. It's a cool golf course. It's fun, but it's really tough. For us watching it on TV, like when we see a guy, just everyone's like, no, you have to be there to really see the undulations and the slopes. Like for some reason, concession shows really well on TV. You can see these mountains on these greens. Is it even that much crazier being on the green in person? Yeah, I've seen, I saw a couple of shots on TV and I was like, oh, it looks kind of severe.

But when you're there, man, especially 13 in the Park 5, everybody can get there. But, I mean, they put the pin on the front one day. And, I mean, there's no room. I mean, there's literally no room for you to land the ball. So you can make a birdie, but you can also walk out of there with a double and being right next to the green. It's pretty crazy. So, yeah, the margin of error is very, very slim out there for sure.

Do you prefer that kind of golf? Like, do you feel like that helps your game versus kind of the rest of the field? I think so. I like golf courses that you have to be very precise coming into the greens. I think that's something that I can do very well. of just kind of big greens that you can just pound it and just hit it really anywhere. I like golf courses like that, but you need a little bit of imagination around the greens and just if you hit a bad shot, there's no easy up and down.

You know, I like golf like that. I think it's fun. Yeah, and I mean, Royal Melbourne, right, where you had for a lot of people kind of the breakout where you really became a star, that place is known for being diabolical around the greens, Alastair McKenzie, so I think it probably makes sense that you like that kind of golf. I do. I just, I like going into a green. And if you miss a shot, you have like three options. You can play like a flop shot or you can play like a bump and run or a straightforward chip shot. I mean, it's, I think it's fun instead of just like hitting into the rough and just you only have one shot, it just like gouge it out. So I think, I think that's the golf that I like to play. And I enjoy it. I like short game stuff and all that. So, yeah. President's Cup, just like looking back on it, was that the most fun you've ever had? It was. Obviously, on Sunday, it was a little devastating for us to lose, but it really was.

We never really get to experience team golf like that. And for me being my first time playing it and having Ernie as my captain and all my teammates and, I mean, the assistant captains, it was awesome. And just being able to connect with guys from all over the world because we don't speak the same language. You know, it's not like we hang out all the time. So being able to become a team in just one week, it's tough. And it's been tough from previous years as what they told me. It was just tough to feel like a team. And I felt like that week we were actually a team.

And it was a really cool experience. I learned a lot about my teammates, my coaches, but also about myself, how I can handle pressure or just see what I'm kind of capable of in the moment and it's something that I will never forget. It was a lot of fun. It's, it's interesting in that, you know, when you talk about it, like the Sunday was devastating and like a lot of people remember the tiger stuff, which I'm sure we'll get into, but what people don't realize, like, how much more that event was about. And we even said as huge, you know, Team USA guys, we're rooting for the USA guys. We know them better. Like, we almost felt, and we talk with like Trevor Hillman about this a lot.

Like we're good friends with him about like people almost felt like you guys were, you deserved it. You guys brought, you came together here from all these different countries, different continents and you guys brought it. The crowds were awesome. And so I do think like, yeah, the tiger match.

And again, we'll get to that. But like, you couldn't miss that week. You just like, I think people need to kind of be reminded that every time they cut to the TV or like we were there and it's like Abraham answer had a big shot, you just delivered.

And so I guess when I said like that must be the most fun you ever had with those crowds and everything, maybe it was a bad taste in the mouth at the end. But for pretty much that whole week, you were just on fire. Yeah, yeah, it was fun. There were so many shots that I still can just remember the feeling or even just a look, some bunker shots and chip shots and puts that I'm like, you're just black out. I mean, it's just, you're not even thinking and you're just kind of reacting. It's pretty, pretty sweet. in a golf course that is so demanding. Yeah, and I just play with Louis this Sunday,

and we were talking about a little bit, and me and my caddy remind me of some of the shots, and Louis was like, yeah, I just, when we, and they played, I think he said, what he said, he was there for the first five holes, and then he was just watching. And for like a guy like that, like Louis like that, I mean, that is so awesome for my guy like that

to say that. And obviously, I mean, gives me, confidence, but it was just an awesome week, you know? It was cool. It was, it was very cool. The Tiger stuff, you know, that's obviously we're only like a week removed from the accident, so everything's going to be tougher to talk about. But do you feel like you got misconstrued or the comments got misconstrued because people were, you know, using it as going after you. Our own guy, Frankie Borelli here, had a tweet that I'm sure we can get into. But, you know, when you look back on that, how do you feel it was portrayed

the couple comments that were made between you and Tiger. Yeah, I mean, it was definitely annoying because when you say something, idolizing someone, you know, that I mean, Tiger is my hero since I'm three years old. He's one of the reasons why I'm in the PGA tour and why I wanted to be a professional golfer. And so they asked me that question a month prior to the President of this Cup

in Mayakova, my home country, there like so are you looking forward to the president scup i'm sure who are you will like to be paired with as partners or who you want to play in the on sunday in the finals and care of my rights i think it was like i know paulkin really well neman we played together a bunch but i was like i'll just be happy just to be there and on sunday me imagine that i mean i will absolutely love to play against tiger woods being my hero growing up in the president's cup that would be absolutely insane like a dream from true And then it happened.

Like on Sunday, it just happened to everything lined up. And then on Saturday night, they announced it. And then all the, just the media started going crazy and just saying, Abraham answering quotations,

I want Tiger. I was like, Jesus Christ. They really did forget about that second part where you're like, he's my idol. I've loved him since I was three years old. They made it seem like you were pumping out your chest

being like, I want Tiger Woods. I want him. I'm going to stare him down and I'm going to beat him. It is pretty wild how the media takes that and just throws it. And I'm sure we're guilty of it too.

I'm sure we probably took some of those quotes and were like Abraham Answer, once Tiger Woods, he doesn't know what's coming. But it is pretty wild how they whip everybody up into a frenzy. It's part of, I mean, it's part of social media and how the world works now. You have to be careful of what you say.

Obviously, I didn't say anything wrong, obviously, but they can make it sound in a way and they just run with it and it makes a headline and it's going to, and if it's going to sell, I mean, they're going to say, you know? And at the time, it was a perfect thing to maybe to give the U.S. or

just the President of Scope add a little bit more so people would be talking about it and yeah that night I had to just I didn't I saw it for the first time I was like man I'm not going to look at my phone for like a day and a half because it's going to suck so on our

side I had a tweet out there and honestly it propelled us into a world we never knew we were going to get propelled into basically what I thought it did was add to the team aspect of it. So like when you came out with that quote, never wants it across my mind that it was like a disrespectful,

like I want tiger because I could beat him. It's more like it's them versus us and he wants Tiger. So like for us being the biggest tiger guys ever and we're team USA, we were in Australia. So like we're like we need this fucking W. Like we've traveled across the world. You know, I saw what you said and I tweeted out.

I want Abraham Hanser to quit the game of golf once Tiger Woods is done with him today because I was like like damn yeah I know I'm sorry but listen he said he said damn dude going into that competition like I wanted you I wanted you to lose so badly that like yeah yeah like maybe you just like packed it up and you're like that's it it's dumb but that's like how we talk that's like I'll say that about my hockey team like I want the rangers to never play again once the honors is done with them because honestly the president's cup brings that sort of competition we don't get to talk about golf like that when it's one regular Sunday where it's like who are you going to pick just two random guys in the top five going into Sunday no this is mono

imano it's answer versus woods I want one guy to win I want one guy to cry that's how sports work so honestly I I I love I loved it I I it's I'm sorry that it got screwed like like no you don't have to be sorry no I'm sorry that the media turned it into like this like it's a disrespectful thing because that's bullshit like you you up there and say I want Tiger Woods on Sunday. If there's a guy, if you ask a guy in all of the world professional golf, and they asked in between those 12 guys or however many players there were, who was you going to play?

If you don't say Tiger Woods, like, there's something wrong with you. You want to be the best. Well, not just because of the being, like the experience. Obviously, you want to win and I wanted to win. I mean, there's no debating about that. But, I mean, having a chance to play against the best player to ever. ever play the game. I mean, that's, you know, now, like, with all, everything happened, like, you don't even know if you're going to be able to play again just a regular round and

golf with them. So it's, you know what I mean? Oh, dude, a hundred percent. It was the, it was the right answer. It was like, of course you would want to, no pun intended, no pun intended, of course you would want to play Tiger. Like you said, everything that comes like, you got to play one-on-one against Tiger Woods when he's the captain of a team on four on soil with everybody going crazy and he wants to win as badly as you want to win. And like, that is an iconic experience that what, like 10 people have had maybe in the history of the world? Like, course you would want that. You'd be crazy not to want that. Absolutely. And I mean, like I said, that experience, I mean, I was nervous. Yes, I was extremely nervous. And I knew going into that and after that,

there is really no situation that I'm going to go and be in that I will feel more uncomfortable than that. Like, I don't think there's going to be a, you know, some puns that I have. there or whatever shots, like that is probably the most nervous I've ever been and hopefully that I will ever be. You know what I mean? So I knew going into that, that was going to help me a lot no matter what the outcome was and I knew he was playing really good. He played, I guess, one time and then he took all the time off and up until the singles. And he had been coming from a good stretch of golf. He won obviously Masters and won the what else he went. I know.

He won't, yeah, the Zosso, and he was playing some good, really good golf solid. And the man did not miss. I mean, he missed a couple of iron shots in the Part 3 in the front. But other than that, I mean, he made every single putt that he had to make. And it was an awesome experience. Was there ever a moment where you stepped back and were like, holy shit, Tiger Woods is playing on his A game against me in a fucking one-on-one match right now? Well, yeah, I mean, I was seeing it definitely on the back nine and just the intensity. I played with Tiger before a couple of times, and super nice.

We were chatting about whatever, you know, friendly and just great. Me and McKay were talking about just random stuff, and it was awesome. But you can just tell that day it was completely different. Like, it was an absolute, he was in an absolute mission. And, I mean, it's different. It's match play. I mean, I get it, but the intensity was definitely there. I mean, he was playing some really good solid golf.

and he's done it for a long, long time. So he knows what he takes in those situations, and he did it. I mean, he played really good. Was there any? I feel like I played. Oh, go ahead. I said, I felt like I played really good, too.

I just had really maybe two iron shots that I regret, but other than that, I still played pretty dang good that day. When you say you regret an iron shot, what does that mean? Like, you regret, like, the club you took? You regret the way you attacked. No, just like, I mean, just like a missed shot, for example. I remember nine. You were tied going to nine, and I just, the only place you can't miss it is, is in the right bunker.

And I kind of just didn't catch it right. And I kind of flared it a little bit, hit the lip and came back, and that was good. So, like, and, you know, in those situations, you just can't miss in the wrong spots because just one shot can change the whole deal on that day. So, and yeah, I mean, I missed that and I missed that hole. I lost that hole and then lost the next one and battled back a little bit, but then it was just too far ahead. Yeah. And you just, I thought the whole week you handled yourself so well.

It was so impressive. And you played so well, three one and one record and going into that environment against Tiger. And with all the other bullshit in the comments, I just thought you handled yourself so well. So that was for a lot of people, that was like, oh, this guy is the real deal. So I just like, it was, you, you were extremely impressive, I thought. Thank you. I appreciate that. Folks, another way you can support us if you, if you care to support us.

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YouTube 4 play golf one time in your life, do something. Tequila. So, you know, we already mentioned a little bit tequila. How does one get into the tequila game? I put down to my little outline here, like I don't know if you're an entourage fan, but Avion from the show Entourage, that's like what I think of when somebody dabbles in the tequila business.

So how did you get into the tequila business? So that's really all I drink, to be honest. So whenever I want to go have some drinks, I, that's the only thing I drink. And it's been like that for like, hold on, I'm 30. Yeah, about when I was like 23, so seven years. And in a pro-am in, where was it, colonial, I got paired with Aaron, my partner now in Fletjezul.

And we just, a Mexican guy as well. And we just started talking about tequila and, I mean, what we like to drink or whatever. And then we mentioned that it would be an awesome. them to one day have our own brand or whatever and we've been already i mean we're not connoisseurs i mean we just we love and we have a passion for for tequila for a long time and then one one thing led to another and i had some connections in in mexico and they said you know what let's let's do it let's give it a go and and try to bring the best tequila we can we can bring to the market so

we started working back then this was a little over four years and uh we haven't stopped so we barely launched this it's going to be a year a year now coming up so it's been cool man it's been awesome you're so fucking cool dude like like you have just such a like the branding being you know a mexican with the tequila the the the beard everything about you is this fucking solid dude you got it going you absolutely have it going like you you can't match up with like a pinocalata company like you got to be sipping on tequila that's just your brand that's what you look like, like that's everything that you are. That's fucking awesome. And I, well, thank you. But I, thank you for the compliments.

There's so many people coming into the, all the tequila world and there, there's somebody just jumping on this. I mean, I don't want to call it a trend, but there's a lot of famous guys coming out with, with tequila, but they're like, you're like, come on, man, they don't really, they don't really like, I don't know if they even drink the, Kila, you know what I mean? It's just kind of, it's not upsetting because it's part of this is how it works, but you want to be, or I want to be really genuine of who I am and what I like. And if I'm going to be a part of something, I want to be really passionate about it and be really behind it and seem to get going, bring something up from nothing. So I'm really

proud of what we've achieved and we just started. So hopefully we can, we can grow this a lot bigger. Well, it's, right, like it's, I wouldn't say easier, but it's, it makes more sense to be successful with it when it's something that you genuinely love. Like you're, it's very authentic and your instincts and that are going to be better because you just like tequila. So if you've been in that world and that's what you like to do, like you said, and you get some other people that it's clearly just a business and they're trying to find

somewhere to put their money. Like it's interesting for me that you as a professional golfer that again, we see in these arenas and inside the ropes playing, do you find yourself trying to take, I don't know if it's like practicing or learning, to the business world? Are you reading books about business? Are you trying to, like, how are you trying to get more into the business game? Yeah, I mean, like I said, it's tough just because we're gone all the time and it takes,

it takes quite a bit of time golf does. Yeah, I have to be really disciplined with my time and how I manage it. But yeah, it definitely intrigues me. You never know what it can happen to me. I mean, I don't want to jinx myself or get hurt or something. I want to have something other than golf. Obviously golf is my passion is what I love to do, and that's what I want to keep doing for as long as I can. But also, I enjoy business, and I enjoy things that I have fun doing and what I'm passionate about.

And if I can make some coin from that, I mean, that's amazing. That's really what you want. But yeah, I mean, my Aaron, like I said, like I said, my partner, he's been more, he's a young guy too, a little older than me, but for what he's achieved in the business world, he's very young. and I've learned a lot from him. So he's been kind of my mentor in the business world. So how do you say it again? And where can people, how can people get involved? How can they get it?

Can they get it? What's the, what's the gist? Of my tequila? Yeah. I don't even know how to say. I'm wearing right here the hat, Fletcha Azul. Fletcha Azul. How long did you guys think about in mole over logos?

Quite a bit. we have a great marketing team VP agency that did the logo for us, but it was everything in, in our brand has kind of a little bit of history or something from the bottle to the labels to everything. We all, we like to do everything together and not just like, yeah, here's the idea, go and do something, you know? Right. And if you look at the logo, I mean, I don't think you can see it here, but everything in there has a meaning. Fletcher means arrow. So you got the little arrow going up, which is blue, which is azool. I don't know if you can see it.

Yeah, yeah. And then you got the plant the agave is what kind of goes that way. That's the plant where the tequila comes from. And right in the circle, it has a little bit of a round thing. It kind of around the arrowhead. And that makes the koa, which is, I don't know if you've seen pictures of the guys kind of harvesting the agave like cutting it. They use a round thing called the koa and that's in there as well.

So everything is, there's so many little things that you can look at and that you have no idea, but when you like realized, like, I didn't realize that thing was in there. So it's been, it's a 10 out of 10. Yeah, like that's real passion. Like to be that involved in the details of it, like, that's clearly something you're very passionate about. Absolutely. Yeah. And it's a name that it resonates a lot with me and Aaron's just life coming from humble beginnings in Mexico

and not really knowing what we're going to do. and we thought about the name of Fletcher because of Fletcha by itself, an error by itself, you can't really, it doesn't do anything. You know, it has to be propelled back

and pulled back and pull back until you can launch it forward and be successful there at the end. But yeah, that's kind of how the name came about. And Fletcha, I think it sounds good. English and Spanish is not a word that it's that hard to pronounce. It doesn't get botched up that much. Yeah, I mean, Riggs had a real tough time with that,

but the other two guys, here we we had that from the get-go um hard to pay attention what a bunch of hard hard to pay attention to you with that that that piece on your wrist there look at that fucking thing oh my god that thing is unbelievable i don't think i've ever seen a watch that thick um speaking of like that and like purchases and you said like coming from humble beginnings what was the first tournament you made like your cash in and like what was the first thing you did after really like making it right like you finally like got some big money in the bank what was the first thing you went out and purchased uh that's a good question i i've been actually very smart with my money um

but i've probably in my house i will say uh here in san antonio that's probably the best like big adulting kind of purchase i haven't really spend much on like uh cars or jewelry or anything like that. I've been I've been really, really smart with it. And that way, that way I can have some, some of these businesses too. So just to start some time, you need some money. You don't have a bright red Ferrari sitting in the garage or anything? No, no, no, right. I have a truck, a pickup truck that I take to the ranch. I mean, I guess that's another big boy purchase. I love the outdoors and ranch and all that stuff. And so I have some property outside of San Antonio.

We always talk about because we're buddies with Kisner and he tells like Riggs like that feeling. What is it the Wednesday after? When is it coming? Wad Wednesday. Wad Wednesday, you guys just get in like a text message from the tour. It's like you've made X amount of dollars. It's got to be the best feeling of all time. Every Wednesday it's a good way. If you play good or the Wednesdays are amazing.

Yeah, the tour sends you a text saying what how much like how much you made that past tournament and it's like wired to your account. That's pretty neat. It's great. Talking about kids is one of my favorites, man. We played the first two days at WGC this past week, and man, we have a good time. And I wish I'd play with him every single round because I have a great record playing with him.

I play for some reason I played really good when I'm paired with him. What is he like from your vantage point? Because we all know him as just, we can't believe he's a professional golfer. Like he's just this, he's just this regular dude that goes out there somehow gets on the other side of the ropes and is like a top 30 player in the world. What, what, what is he like from a competition standpoint? Does he kind of get more serious or no? I mean, he definitely gets serious out there, but he's still, he's still a kid.

He is hilarious. He doesn't have a filter. He just says what he thinks. And he's a regular, just kind of regular guy that is a really good golfer. I mean, he really is a really good golfer. I think I compare a lot of my game to his, to his game in some ways as in, because we're not like the tallest guys. He's even taller than me, but we're not like the tallest guys out there.

And we hit it somewhat about the same distance. And we just find the way to score. And, but yeah, we get along great, man. He's, he's fun to chat with and play some golf. Yeah, he gets Wad Wednesday. I can always tell when he's had a couple, you know, Budlights the night before. He's having them early on a Wednesday.

And I just like RSM week, I think right after C Island when he finished, he lost in the playoff. I just get a text screenshot phone that was just like $719,000. You know, deposit into your bank account. He's like, Wad Wednesday, Wig. He's a fun. He's a legend, man. He's so funny.

He is great. It is cool. Like Frankie said, like we know him as, you know, buddies, but we're kind of like whatever, media, podcast, entertainers. And so to hear other guys like inside the ropes that kids is, kids is just kids, Dewey's great. So speaking of, you know, Dewey and Caddies, your guy, Dale, as do does the hot dog reviews.

And, you know, Frankie Borelli up here is filmed pretty much all the pizza reviews that Dave Portnoy does. So you got a little connection to the review game. That is funny. And Dale, he's a great fan of the pizza reviews. And the funny thing is that people with like, hey, he's like, he's so funny. Is he like acting? Or it's like, dude, the guy is not acting at all.

Like this is the guy that is, that's how he is. And he's just now he's got a phone in front of him. But, I mean, the guy is not like acting or trying to be funny. That's just how he is. And he's funny. He's like the nicest guy. Once his tournament mode, you get, obviously, we get really serious and we get to work. But it's fun.

fun to be around him. He's got the worst diet in the world by a mile. Clearly, if he's crushing hot dogs. There's no other person in the world that eats worse than him. There's not. I mean, there's no way. I can sense that you give it to him. Like, that's been said to him from you, right? Where you're just like, you eat like absolute trash. Well, I mean, yeah, I don't even have to say it. It's just like, I'm just concerned for his health, like, to be honest. But what's this guy eating? What's this guy eating? You get to a, you get to a, you get to a. tournament, whatever, Monday, Tuesday. What's this guy eating throughout the week?

So let's say we rent the house and we're going to stay together that week hypothetically, right? And I'm going to go and I was like, you know what? I feel like cooking this week or grilling out or whatever. He will not eat anything that we all eat. He will not eat a burger. You will not eat it like a steak. He will not eat anything. He asked me, he's like, Dale, I'm going to get some stuff. What are you like? What do you want? Well, give me some. chicken nuggets, but they have to be certain time because the breadings got to be perfect. And all the candy, all like the gummy, all the gummies that you can lay whatever, worms or anything that has sugar, all the sodas, all the chips and fries.

Obviously, hot dogs, this is one of his favorite things. And if he's going to eat pizza, it's got to be just cheese pizza, berry light sauce, and well done. It has to be well done. If it's too gooey, he wouldn't eat it. What a legend this guy is. I thought you were explaining Trent's die, by the way. I was going to say, when you started talking about sugary candies, that guy sounded like my best friend.

Like, I very much relate to that. So, you know, yeah, I like shit. It's a great life. I very much enjoy your like shit. I bet he does, too. It's a great life until it's over. Right. It ends earlier than you would prefer, but it's a great run.

I got a feeling he's going to be like 100. I mean, he's probably somehow he's going to make it to 100. I hope so. Yeah. And then the dart, it seems to me he smokes a dart at hole too. This guy is such a legend.

You hear these stories about, you hear these stories like this lady is like 108 years old. It was going viral recently, 103 and she like dipped, she dipped raisins in like tequila or something. But this guy's going to live until he's 115 just eating gummy worms every Thursday. It's unbelievable.

I mean, and nobody. like it's been some some tournaments or places that we go and we get invited to like a really super nice dinner he's like hey bring your cat here and I'm like he does that he's like man I don't go like you know I don't eat anything it's like dude you got to go so he's sitting there and he's like no thanks I'm good thank you I'll just have a beer oh thank you like and he's got to be tough for him because he has to say no a lot and just generally he doesn't like any other like normal food he doesn't so he's like he gets this like gag reflex if you

try something. Dude, that picture of you guys at the, at Augusta National when he's just ripping that dart is one of the more iconic, it's one of the more iconic Masters photos ever taken. Yeah. I mean, if you think about it, old times, I mean, you got Jack and Arnie and there's a ripping dart from the TV. Oh, yeah. I mean, just walking down the fairways, it was just a normal thing. Now it's like, this guy smokes. Are you kidding me? Are you allowed? It's like, dude, what are you talking about? It is. I love that picture pop. up and just gets tweeted at us sometimes out of the out of the clouds and it makes me laugh every single time. I mean, he looks like the caddy from like Happy Gilmore, the guy that you just picked off

the street that you just like it's a good blend between, uh, happy Gilmer's catty and Sagalafanac is in the hangover. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Um, all right, Abe. Well, look, man, we really appreciate this. Um, we appreciate you taking the time. We appreciate you. I'm sure you're sick of talking about like Tiger Woods in your match against him and we obviously won all the details. But you're the man, like Frankie said, you got a really cool thing going with the tequila and you've got the look and you're a really good golfer. So congrats to you and all the success. And again, we appreciate you taking the time. I got to get one of those hats, by the way. I got to get a hat.

Send me on the email. Send me your address. I'll tell the boy that I don't have any with me. actually, this is the only one I have, but I'll tell them to send you one for sure. I got to get the logo is awesome, the history behind it. So it's really cool. So again, thank you. We appreciate the time and hopefully we'll catch it with you soon. Thank you. Thanks for inviting me.

You guys are awesome. Well, thanks, man. I really appreciate me. I don't hold any grudges for your, for your Twitter. Don't worry. Thank you. I appreciate it. I'm glad we worked this out because I had many sleepless nights after sending out that

tweets. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure you do. Thank you. Thanks, bro. Thanks, I appreciate it. Take it easy.