Fore Play - After the final Ryder Cup

Episode Date: October 9, 2018

Still reeling from our Greg Norman interview and inspired by the Ryder Cup drama, we're back and firing on all cylinders. We're back to digest and react to all the past week's Ryder Cup fallout. Did DJ and Brooks fight each other? Was Paulina involved? Does Spieth hate Reed? Does Reed's wife run his show? Was Jim Furyk disingenuous in his Golf Channel interview? Does Furyk just not have a brain? Is Tiger even more back now that he sucks at the Ryder Cup again? Lots of hot action. Lots to cover. Let's go! You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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The Shark himself was in studio. Legend. Many people were calling it our best interview that we've done. It works out so well when you get someone in studio. And then when you make that person Greg fucking Norman, it just takes it to the next level. Trent and I talked about it in the few minutes that we did last show before kind of leading into the great Norman interview, how he has every right in the world to be sort of above us

to walk around in his own world to be largely impoverious to everything that's going on around him he was not like that at all. Aside from everything about him and he's awesome, he's worth $300 million. Yeah, that number doesn't make any sense.

He doesn't have to come into this god forsaken a hellhole of an office that we have and come talk to us for a full hour. For no reason. For no good reason. He just came in. He wasn't promoting anything specifically.

He doesn't have a new line. Say a word. word to us about promotion. He doesn't have like a new line of shark gear coming out. He's just in town. And he wanted to come hang out with us? Where do we sit? And what do we want to talk about?

He couldn't be more in the mix. Like even when I went to go to the pizza view with him, he's like, when are we doing this again? And I even asked his publicist, like, why is Greg doing this? Like, I said that to her. I was like, why? Because I have that same question. Whenever we do something with these guys, right?

Like, sometimes we'll go to the, these guys will have to, like, travel and sit in these cars. And sometimes they'll meet us for, like, pizza reviews, like in, like, queens and It's like, these guys are worth like hundreds of millions of dollars, right? Why? And she said, she says, like, he just can't stop. Like, he didn't, he couldn't stop when he played in his career. That's what he told us.

Like, if a guy had 500 practice swings, he'd hit 700. Yep. Like, he just can't stop. That's why, like, Paul McCartney still, like, comes out with new music and tours the world. That's just what they do. It's just like they can't live. Greg Norman can't live without just talking about golf. He just being around work and work ethic and just owning life.

Can you imagine owning life like that? No, he's inspirational. I just put together a nightstand in my room. Oh, yeah, new move to New York for Frank. New move to New York. Wow. How long did you take you to walk towards this morning? Eight minutes?

Six minutes. Wow. What was your old commute? It was like an hour and 20 minutes. Yeah, yeah, door to door. I had like my dad drop me off. We were rushing. We were making, sometimes we'd see the train coming and I'd make him just like,

shout out to my dad who would always drive. I'd make him just drive on the other side of the road. I mean, talk about, like, waking up at seven o'clock in the morning. What are you driving the inside of the road? What are you talking about? So at the station that we go to. Get there faster if you drive on the other side of the road. Yeah, the station we get to, right?

There's a spot where the things come down for the train tracks, so all the cars stop, and we need to make a left before the train tracks. So I would always have him, there would always be a backup, and I'd have him get on the other side of the road and just speed before our car comes our way, and we'd make that left, and we'd, like, catch the train. But that was an intense couple minutes. A lot of stress every morning. My dad's, like, sweating. I'd have to text him when I'm on the train, like, thanks for that.

I don't know why I'm putting you through this shit. I should just move out. So, yes, a lot easier. But to my point, I put together a nightstand. When you open up this box, you see a million fucking nuts and bolts. I couldn't believe what I had to do. But I felt so accomplished after I had worked so hard, and I built it. It's kind of like, you just feel good when you're working all the time, right?

Yeah, totally. I came back from work, and then I worked at night, and I did that nightstand. Greg Norman's just working. You must feel great to just, like work and be successful. Yeah, and leave New York and be like, man, we dominated New York. We went to all these different places. We gave awesome interviews. People love us.

Everyone commenting on us. Like Greg Norman's like the most likable dude I've ever watched on video. He is awesome. If you have not listened to that interview for some God-Persaken reason, go listen to the Greg Norman interview. We also, so it's off season right now for golf. It's the low season. We're cutting back to one show a week. We're going to obviously work to get guests.

We're going to fill those shows with as much awesome stuff as we can. If you remember last winter, we had Gil Hans on who talked to all kinds of awesome, of course, architecture. We had Steve Rabadu, who is the course superintendent at Wingfoot. Steve Rabadu. It sounds like a boomerang. So we did all kinds of cool stuff. We are talking still with the shark and with his folks about doing more of an in-depth, like Greg Norman Unchained episode, where we maybe throw back a couple cocktails beforehand, then turn on the cameras,

turn on the audio, turn on the record button, and just let it fly. so there's been talks about doing something like that with his people. So it's going to be an awesome offseason, but we're cutting back to one show of a week, so we're going to cram a lot in there. We have maybe the longest outline I've ever written with the stuff to talk about, all of the Ryder Cup. We had to shelve a bunch of it because of the shark. We didn't want to obviously clutter last Thursday show.

We want that one to be clean. It also works better that way for the archives. Like when somebody goes back to, you know, listen to the Greg Norman interview. I don't want there to be 30 minutes of random BS on there. I want them to be able to just get the Greg Norman stuff. So we shelved a bunch of stuff A bunch of writer cup gossip A bunch of drama

A bunch of back and forth So we gotta get to that Okay This weekend I played Shinnock Yeah you did No big deal I mean that was crazy

But yeah Kind of came out of nowhere I started posting about people like What is what is happening right now Couldn't believe it Usually I'll like send you a message I'll like reply to an Instagram I didn't even want to do that for this one

He knows Riggs knows And he didn't even like You knew that everyone knew where you were playing because you didn't tag it. You didn't write anything about it. That's what I found very interesting. They're going to see the clubhouse and be like, oh, that's where he is. Didn't post anything.

I just post the picture up. It's it. Like the first picture, just like on like the whatever hole it was, like the third hole. It's like there he is. That's like that's just what I have to say. So Shinnock, you know, the first time that I was ever there was when we did the Mulligan Challenge with Dave. And I had been all jacked up for weeks leading up to this because we had two spots in the U.S. Open Media Day, thanks to our close.

personal friend, USGA. We had two spots in there. It was all set up as a Monday. We were going to play Shinnecock. We were going to be able to talk about it three weeks before the U.S. Open. I'd never even seen the place. I'd never been there.

I couldn't wait. And we got there. And like the day before, obviously the USGA caught wind of the mulligan thing. Dave hijacked the whole day, which to be honestly, it ended up being like the best thing it's ever happened before, play because we got credentialed. The USDA loved us. We used the U.S.GA relationship and showcased how well it went to get credentialed to the PJ and the Ryder Cup, so it couldn't have gone better.

But in that moment, on that Monday, when I realized, like, a hole into the thing, two holes into the thing, I'm trying to hit an approach shot from like 140. And I look up, and the flag sticks out, there's 100 golf balls on the green, five cameramen, Dave, Zaz running around. Zaz running around. I was like, I just can't, fuck. I cannot play the golf course. I just can't play the golf course.

Here I am at Shinnock. Supposed to play Shinnock. Can't play Shinnock. So a couple of people that were up there that we became really good friends with. We're like, look, I know this sucks for you. We're going to get you back. out in the fall when the course dies down, wow, wow. So I cashed it on that ticket.

Shinnacock is, seeing it without all the tents and all the bullshit, it was a different place. It was spectacular. It is the best golf course I've ever played. It's not, that's different than my favorite. My favorite is still Caput Cliffs,

but it is the best golf course I've ever played. From like an architectural standpoint, from simplicity, it doesn't rely on these crutches or like views or anything. I love views and all that stuff, but it doesn't rely on any of that stuff. It's just built so perfectly, like that dark, like dark brown Shinnock Fescue-only look that it has, that only Shinnock looks like that.

It just makes it stand out. And then all of that with the clubhouse is just constantly in the background. Like the clubhouse is like the North Star. And it just at every point in the golf course, you can see it, all of that, how open it is and expansive, all the little runoffs around the green. Like people got to remember there's like no rough really around the greens like your ball just catches on the slope Like you put it like three feet past the pin you're like I'm gonna have a three footer coming up the hill You've got like 40 feet and you have to chip over a balker

The ball just caught a fucking slope So so playing it experiencing it in in its pure form was one of the coolest experiences of my entire life That place now I can see why Greg Norman the shark said On Thursday show that I was like what's it what's your favorite golf course in the world? He's like there's three of them and Michelle Dinnercock was one of those three. Yeah, that's crazy. Completely makes sense now.

How'd you play? Not good. Not good. Here's a question. What T's the key to play from? So a lot of people chirped me about this on my Instagram. They've chirped me for playing the red T's. Look dumber, people.

The red T's are the tips there. Oh. So there's the, there's the open T's. And then the one T's closer to that, which are the club tips are the red T's. So we played 6940 is what it was. Nice. Very nice. Pretty deep.

I shot 85. Oh. And it was, I had, dude, it was the weirdest round of golf. I had, like, 13 just tap in bogeys. It was like every hole I was tapping in for bogey. I had one double on the 11th hole. I hit it. That's the one, the part three, everybody, that's their big lines.

Oh, short is part five in America. Right. That's what they always say. And I made five. I fucking hit in that front bunker, hit a great bunker shot out of there to, like, 20 feet above the hole. It was like a front right pin, punted it off the green. into the rough. So that's the one that was by our radio setup.

Yep. Wow. With just a fucking crazy. Yes. That's where Phil. Yep. That's a crazy town green. Phil just like disrespected the rules on that hole.

No, that was on, that was on 14. No, that was 13. That was 13. Okay, got it.

But that was on the other side of where you're talking about. Parthry's like the, you're shooting it up. Yep. You hit it uphill. It's like 155. I hit an eight iron that came up like a foot short. It took it this,

like we're all looking like, that looks really good. And it was the kind of bounce. Everyone went, Oh! And it bounced straight backwards into one of those huge bunkers. Again, hit a great bunker shot. Had like 20 feet down the hill for PARs.

I was all jacked up. I'm going to fucking beat this hole. Let's go. I putted it into the rough. Legit off the green. Got up and down from there for a double. So I had one double. I had probably 14 bogeys.

A double in like three or four pars. That's not that bad of a day from the club tips. Honestly, I shot at my title. I drove the ball great. I just was struggling to, like, hit just to hit greens. And when you miss greens there, it's like, what can you do? Yeah. I could barely put the golf course.

So I would have, like, on a ton of holes, I had, like, 25 feet for par. There's lagging up there close. Tap in bogey. Just tapped in for bogey a million times. So anyways, Shinnock, fantastic. Red T's, you guys are idiots for chirping me. How dumb do you look? You must feel like idiots.

I have my own hole in Scotland. I saw this. What is this? Yeah. Some guy emailed me, and he's like, you have a hole. with your name on it. It's LARGs golf course on the west coast of Scotland. It's the 13th hole, 382 yard par four, and it's named Riggs. Yeah. The guy had a status for the boys flag, too. What are the odds that, like, the guy's playing that hole is a huge Barstow fan, knows enough

to, like, oh, Riggs and, like, combine it with you, and then he happens to have just our merch. Also, so one guy, another guy was tweeting at me and was like, dude, I live like 20 minutes away from that course. I've played it 100 times. I never knew it said Riggs on the side. Jesus. Yeah. So, anyways, got my own hole. If you ever play Largs, L-A-R-G-S. Yeah, but you're going to get a lot more pictures now.

Because a lot of people probably just went right by. I had no idea. Because who reads, like, the hole? Yeah, exactly. You just look if there's like a picture, maybe. Yeah. And then you just buzz right by. You never see it.

Actually, when he sent me the picture, I didn't even see it. I looked at the picture like 30 seconds. You're like, oh, that's good. That's good. Right. But he's like, it's named after you. You're like, I don't know what that means. And then eventually I saw just rigs right in the middle of the picture.

So that was cool It looks like Largs is the town Largs Really? Yeah Largs is probably the golf course too True Because it's not uncommon I have a town

In a golf course named the town The car is named after the town Like Bethpage Black There you go It's a Bethpage New York Carry on Yeah, large golf club Bang

You act like you're like Like you were like telling me I was wrong That's not the name of the course That's the name of the town We got to the bottom of that mystery Yeah frankly Nice to look golf course right next to the water.