Fore Play - Alfonso Ribeiro twists our brains

Episode Date: February 13, 2020

Alfonso Ribeiro, the famous actor, and host twists our brains into pretzels with his analytical approach to golf. He breaks down what it’s like playing the Pebble Beach Pro-Am, working with Kevin Na’s swing coach, and giving us advice on how mentally to better our own games. He also discusses bringing that analytic approach to his career. Afterward, we ponder microchips inside golf balls to help players find their ball!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Alfonso Ribeiro, big-time golf guy. So you just walked into Barstall HQ, first kind of impressions walking into Barstool, checking out our office. Well, it's all new. I mean, the last time I came to Barstool, like, it was literally did not look like this. How about we just go there? We're just going to be pleasant.

Yeah. It was in like an office, then it was like just not. really new. It feels like a little bit of a facade. Like this is too nice and like state of the art and it's not really us. It's just, but it's, no, it, it, listen, everybody needs to go to work and feel like they're going to a nice place. Okay. You know what I mean?

You can talk about whatever you want, but it's got to feel nice. I'm going to work today. What he's saying is the last place was a dump. Yes. And he couldn't believe that he was brought there and that he likes this place a lot more. I'm going to go with the last part of that. Okay. Because I'm PC.

Because I'm PC. So speaking of work, you got a couple things going on. A couple things. America's funniest videos. Absolutely. You know. So like the greatest family show in American television history, right? Like it's 30th season.

Iconic for the show. My fifth season is the host. And like what's better than watching people do really dumb stuff hurt themselves but want us to laugh at them by sending us the video? So you get the approval of them. to laugh at them and we get to laugh over and over and over again. And I get to go to work and actually one of the things that I'll do is, so I typically have to do

the voiceovers for all of the videos that need my voiceover. But I won't watch any of the ones that I don't have to do voiceover on so that when I'm actually at the taping, I can enjoy them for the first time. It's genuine. Right? At the taping. And I'm like, this way it's like, it feels

less like work. You go and it's like, wow, didn't see that one and can laugh and have a great time. I actually enjoy the taping as much as the audience gets to do it. That's very cool. You ever slip up? Like, oh, shit. I'm good at that because I have kids.

So I've learned how not to allow that slip to come out. I always say, I know my audience. And when I'm there, I'm pretty good at making sure that, because we have some kids in the audience. Absolutely. I've become America's dad. I have to be, you know, very responsible. It's amazing. My golf song hasn't made it on.

that show yet. Just put it out there. We'll just keep sending us videos, we'll get it on. You get one swing on me with a wedge and it's, I mean, everyone's laughing. Well, pull your back. Well, actually, on Sunday at the AT&T, I actually wanted to see whether someone got one of my swings on video because it absolutely would make it on to my show where it was on the 14th hole, which is a par five, long part five. And I'm trying to like possibly see whether I can get there. too so I'm really digging into one and my right

foot completely slips out on the downsway I'm talking airborne out completely gone right and I still hit the ball but I was on one leg almost down on the ground and I actually

hit the ball so the two pros in the group because my pro was Kevin Nah right and the other of the pro was J.B. Holmes and both of them were like in they were shell shocked because they were like, okay, are you all right? And I'm like, and I'm walking gingerly because I'm like, I don't know if I'm all right yet. And then they go, how did you make contact?

Right. Like, how did you, literally you were falling down and you still hit the ball? It's an athlete. I was like, I don't know. You're an athlete. I like that. Yeah, it's an athlete. Athletic things.

Yeah. But I mean, it was like, but it was really, I said to everybody in the gallery who was watching it was like, did anybody get that on tape? They didn't get it on tape. So you're a good player. You're scratch. Is that right? Well, they had me as a three. Okay. Yeah.

So you've played golf in some big circles. Right. So you're Alfonso Ribeiro. But at the AT&T, Pebble Proam, it's TV. It's legitimate PGA tour crowds. What's kind of your nerve level on the first tee or on the seventh tee, maybe a more iconic shot? What's your nerve level? You know, there's probably only one shot at Pebble Beach that I am fearful of.

It's the second shot on eight. Yeah. Right. Like, that is the only shot where you're like, okay, I don't have this. This is going to talk to me about eight? Tell them about eight. We play the whole goddamn golf course. You know, it's a train wreck.

We can't break 100. None of us were playing a couple weeks before the U.S. Open. He strikes him down in the middle of the fair way on eight and rips from right at the flag on eight. Right on the flag. That's pretty good. Missed the bird, missed the putt. Hey, hitting that green in two is great work.

It was great work. Right. Because. And I was on my way to triple digits. So, of course, I'm walking through seven holes. That's how bad it was. Right. Right, okay.

You knew where this round was heading. Yeah, big time. Yeah, got you. Nobody's lying anyway. The best part of that is you're only through seven holes, right? This is your eighth hole, and you haven't even gotten to the teeth of the golf course yet. No. Right.

That's the easy part of the golf course. You get one, two, three, four, five. You're like, cool, we could. And you're doing that thing. You're like, if I par in, I can shoot 92. You're like, you're through seven. What are you talking? And you're not going to.

Let's just say the only confident walk I had all day was walking. walking up to the green on eight. I had my shoulders up nice and my head was held high and I felt good. But the rest of the day, absolutely, you know, kick mad. Well, we had a 25 mile an hour crosswind going from left to right. Right into the water? Yeah. Ooh, not good. So, you know, it's one of those shots where you're like, okay, where am I aiming? Yeah.

As far left as you can. Into the gallery. You know, I can play it from the left rough. Can't play that from the Pacific. No. Right? Right. So, you know, I was left.

What's the dichotomy like with the pros and the amos and you guys playing different T's? Is it awkward at all? Actually, no, it's, I'll say this. Like, I'm sure there are groups and I've heard many stories of playing in groups where, because there's two amateurs and two pros where guys really are not enjoying playing with those amateurs. And there are guys on tour who are like, I'm not playing the AT&T. I can't stand it. Like, it's just playing with the amateurs.

But like this group that we. had this year, which was myself with Kevin Nah, and then it was Michael Pena with a guy named Martin Traynor, right? And Michael Pena and I are pretty much the same golfer, even though he was getting

seven shots, I was getting three. But when we play at home, we're about the same. So when you play with guys who are actually decent golfers, right, then it's not bad. Because you're not like, all right, let's go look for his ball. Right. It's not, you know, it's not that, right? The flow of the game

feels like it's just a normal foursome going out to play and it's not so bad for them. I even sent Kevin Nah a text message yesterday kind of saying, you know, hey dude, thanks for an amazing week. We made the cut. We finished 19th

right, like out of 156 teams, that was awesome. He was in there grinding and like trying to get the team to make the cut. And, you know, it was just a really, really enjoyable week and he was like dude thank you for being the way you

were because you knew when to talk and make it light but you also knew when to leave me alone. Right? Let me have my space when I needed it and I'm good at that. Like I'm the dude in the group who's like we're not talking to him right.

You can sense that. Some people don't have a great sense of that. That dude is about to break something and I'm not going to be the one to tip it. I tell everyone feels when they look at John Rom, by the way. You're not sitting at dinner. Just don't go near him.

Don't look at him. Don't even make eye contact. Don't even make a noise. Table for one. That's Patrick Reed. That's his nickname. But that's what I was doing. But that's what happens when it's guys who know how to play golf, right?

Who play golf and been in that circumstance. This is my fifth year at the AT&T. I've been up at the American Century. tournament now for maybe 14, 15 years. I get it. Like, I get how to play golf in front of people. It doesn't affect me, right? Like, you were asking the question earlier, like, does it, like, does it affect you?

Like, going to that first tee? I have no nerves. Did it affect you at first? The first time, absolutely. Yeah. But now it's like, maybe after, like, the fourth or fifth time playing in one of those, like, bigger tournaments, after that I was like, first, nobody cares. Correct.

Right? Like we all have this thing in our minds that like, oh, I'm going to go and embarrass myself. I'm like, no, I'm not. You know why? Because I'm so much better than the audience who's sitting near watching me play golf that they're impressed even if I hit a bad shot. Because they couldn't even hit that bad shot. Right. So I'd look at it like, oh, well, they don't care whether I play well or not.

I care whether I play well or not. Well, I know that if I'm in the moment and I'm actually all messed up about it, well, I'm not going to play well, right? I got to get into the same space where I've had some of my best rounds. And all of my best rounds have been when I'm like, yeah, whatever. You've got to find your happy place. Right. Just like you're not caring, right?

The moment you care is the moment you get tense. The moment you are tense is the worst golf swing you will make. Right? So I've certainly gotten myself to where I can just kind of be in the moment, you know, pick a target, you know, small targets, right? No, no, no, no. Don't hit it over there to the right. No.

pick a target, hit the target, don't worry about anything else. You're not going to hit it there anyway, but at least you're going to make a good, solid swing with the right effort. Boy, am I familiar with the exact opposite approach of that. Just standing on a team and you've got a couple groups backed up, you know, and you're standing for whatever reason you think that they care a lot about how your shot goes. You're standing there. You've got the biggest fairway in the world, and you're just thinking like,

all right, there's OB 40 yards left. You can't hit it OB. And then meanwhile, you're going to hit it left. Correct. Just pick a small target. It's a giant fairway. If you hit even a decent drive, you'll have a good approach to say, nope, your body's a train wreck, you don't know how to swing a golf club.

You're thinking, oh, my God, they think I suck. Nobody cares. They're on their phone. They're even watching. Right. Well, I became friendly with Justin Rose. And he has a putting guru, right, who works with him. Okay.

And this guy gave our whole little group when we were all together some information is called see the burn, right? And I was like, okay, well, it's a putting thing, where if you put a ball in the ground and if you move that ball quickly, you're going to see what looks like a burn of a ball on the grass, right? And I was like, well, what is that? Like, why? He goes, your brain doesn't understand no, or

don't. Right? It only understands what it's saying. So don't hit it left. Your brain heard hit it left. Right? So there's no don't. Yeah. It doesn't recognize don't. Right? It only recognizes do.

Yeah. So people say, don't move your head. You're moving your head, right? What this guy is saying is see the burn. If you see the burn, you didn't move your head. It has to be an active, positive thought, not a negative thought. Because there's no way that your brain understands the negative thought. Why do you always hit it in the water when you look at water? Right? If you have to hit the ball over the water, you're like, all right, don't hit it in the water. You're hitting it in the water. Your brain doesn't understand, don't. You have to just. don't even worry about the water, see the target, and hit it at your target. So it's a mental exercise. Absolutely. But it becomes a physical thing because if you see the burn, you didn't move your head. I can't tell you. Yeah, Frank, he's spinning over there.

Spinning. Spinning over here. I mean, he's going to tell somebody you. Mental disaster. His brain is a mess. So his like, I don't know what's going on. We talk about first tea jitters, mental. When we went to Palmetto with Kevin Kisner, we played it as his club.

Kiz. That's my buddy. He's the mess. Yeah. First T. Have you ever played Palmetto? No. First T is just a regular.

you know, tea shot, there's just grass ahead of you. And there's a little pond that's maybe, is it a pond for a house that's like on the golf floor? Yeah, it's of maybe 40 yards in front of the tea. And it's completely not in play. 40 yards in front of the tea, 50 yards right? And I was just thinking, Kevin Kinsler's watching me hit my first golf shot of the day of the day right now.

Pros are watching me. Scott Brown's watching me. All these pros are up here. And I just, I duck hooked a ball off the T-box into the water because that's the only thing I really saw. I'm like, look at that little pond over there. I bet you I hit it into there, went right into it, like a magnet. It's an impossible shot.

Only water on the course. It was a possible shop. But it's like resonating with me where it's like I actually saw that when I got up there. Kisner said he didn't even know the water was there on the golf course. He belongs to the damn thing. Well, that's- And that's the point, right? That is exactly the point.

What you see, you will manifest into your reality. What you are afraid to do is what you will do, right? And it's like it's a great exercise for golf, right? Like just spend a day, go out on a course and literally go. I'm not going to see anything but my. my target all day. I'm going to look at that target and that's what I'm going to do. You'll play the best round of your life.

I can't wait to do this. That's what I did at Aaron Hills when I played so well at Aaron Hills. It was just keep my head down. I thought that all day long and I had the rest round of my life. But that's a positive. Right. Yeah. But if you would have said don't look up.

Right. You would have looked up. Looking at the fucking stars all there. Yeah. If you'd have been like, don't like this. I'm sorry. Yeah. Is that a bird?

What is that? But it really does work. If you can commit to it, it 100% works. If you can commit. But it's like, but literally every time before you take the club back, if you say so, like, after I hurt myself, right, on Sunday. Yeah. Right. The first thing I, right when I stood over the ball, I'm like, no pain.

It's going to hurt when I get to my left side. Right. Right. Right. Because my left leg started to really hurt. But I was like, no pain. Now, for me, that no pain was get left. Right?

So I would say to myself, no pain, get left. Yeah. And I got left and started making good swings, even though it hurt. Right? Yeah. But I put myself into that place where it's like, I know that this is going to hurt, but I got to make this swing or I'm going to hit this ball in the ocean. Right.

And, you know, I don't know how they're trying to do that. So I was able to focus into that, right? And it didn't happen every swing. But it, but that's the kind of things that you have to do. I think, especially when you start talking with a lot of these gurus, especially the mental gurus, that's the really the common denominator with all of them. It's like you've got to come up with a routine and focus on the positive, never the negative. Man, who the hell knew Alfonso Rivera was going to be my mental golf coach?

Never would have bet that in a million years. You got to try it. I'm going to try this every single time I go out there now. Just target. Just see the target, targets, targets. You know, obviously if you cut the ball, you draw the ball, whatever it might be, you want to pick a target that is the right target for you. Right. Right.

But pick the target. Focus only on the target. See that target. right before you take it back, look at the target. Back at the ball, take the club away. You'll have the best round of your life. How did you get this confident playing golf? You started when you were 18, right?

It's not like you started when you were six years old, seven years old, where a lot of these kids grow up with the game. It's because I'm mental, right? And in a good way and a bad way, right? Like, I'm so analytical and in my head about thought and how to and creating positive synapses in your brain and being super analytical with the swing, and I'm that dude.

So I had to come up with, and really through the years of, like, lucky enough that some of these great coaches and great players I had the opportunity to play with, and I picked their brains, right? Like, I'm like, dude, anything. Just throw it my way. I'll take it, right?

Like, I want that information. Now, the problem with that is that I'm taking everything. Right. Right? So I can also spin my mind. into complete total confusion, right? Hell yeah. And because I'm taking all of that information in.

Like, I can't watch bad players. I'm also visual. So if I watch you make a bad swing, it's very likely that I might make that same bad swing. You never should have came in this room. Put a nightmare around with us. You can't watch any videos from this group. It just means I can't watch y'all.

I can have a great time after y'all swinging. After you hit the ball, dude. We're going to have a blast. But, like, I played with Charles Barkley once. I was like, oh, no, this is a problem. I got to spit that out. This is the problem. I literally, I turned away every time he's, I look over here.

See, Riggs his back swing, you may start puking. Throwing up. Just instant throw up. Watch this guy, you get to start murdering people around night. We all got problems. We all get problems. With the Justin Nose thing, though, I'm interested in the putting. I struggle tremendously on the green time.

Did he shit? Unbelievable amount. Did he shit? It's a $5. It's a $5. We don't say that you were. What else did he share with you on the green in terms of this guru besides, you know, looking at the burn? Well, I mean, you know, seeing the burn is the core to, like, not lifting your head, right?

So that's just one technique, right? Ultimately, it's a lot of guys what they want to do is just understanding how your brain works, right? So are you a visual, are you a feel, right? Are you a guy who needs to know the number to the flag or do you eyeball it? Right? If that's the type of guy you are where you're like, I eyeball it, you're a feel guy. Yep. Right.

So now you want to know the feel for the greens. You want to do this. You want to pretend you're tossing a ball, right? Yeah. Because your brain, right? So, well, but that might not be the way your brain thinks. Yeah, but I feel like I'm a field guy, but man, when I get to the green. You might be.

Robot. He's a robot. Evidence would suggest that you or not. But you might be a numbers guy. It's a misprogrammed robot. Right? Like you might be a guy who literally goes, this is a 15-foot putt. A 15-foot putt goes like this.

Yep. A 17-foot putt goes like this. Yeah. Right. If you're a field guy, you want to go, right, I want to feel how hard I would need to throw this ball to get it to stop there, right? Yeah. If you're an athletic dude, right, you're, you don't think, hey, I'm going to throw that ball to this guy. He's 12 feet away from me.

and I put my arm here and I go like that, right? No, not at all. You just go, he toss him the ball, right? So that's what. He couldn't tell you the difference between a 25 football and a 50 foot foot foot. That's where I've been my whole life. I see a guy throw the ball at him. And so then this past weekend I'm doing that

where I'm just literally looking at the hole and get my hands going about the pace that I need to roll it up there. Okay. And then I'd look down at the ball and hit it. And man, as soon as I did that, the thing would either shoot 10 feet by or be 10 feet short. Right. So one last extra.

piece on what I think you missed. Yeah. You sat there and went, okay, that's the feel. And then you stopped and looked down. No. That's the feel. Don't stop. Good call.

Don't stop. Because the visual might feel different than the actual. I love this. Right? So if you're doing this and you're like, that's the feel, right? Now, what does that look like? How far back do I need to take it that it mimics that feeling.

Yeah. Right? No, I mean, I feel like, oh, yeah, I got to write your check. I mean, it's just like a $10,000 lesson. I mean, mine is just, I'm just smiling over here. Right now, you've got three dudes who are like, dang it, he's going to take money from us next time. Oh, yeah. In that same way, like sometimes I feel like my practice swings are better than my regular swing,

and I'll step up, my practice swing will look great, and then I'll swing and everyone I'll be like, what the hell was that? Because you're trying to hit the ball. Right. Right. Right. So if you're trying to hit the ball, that's different than a practice swing. Yeah.

A practice swing is you're just feeling something, right? You're feeling it in your body. Now you just have to be able to take that. That's why people talk about it all the time. Can you take that range to the golf course? Well, the difference between the range and the golf course is they're targets. And are you target? It's understanding how you think, right?

Like, it's everything that I do in my life is about understanding how you think. When I did Dancing with the Stars, I had to teach my partner, Whitney Carson, how to teach me. because I understood how I think, right? Like, this is how I learn. If you learn how I learn, then it's going to be easy to teach me. But if you keep trying to get me to do it the way you learn, it may never go in, right? So with lines, when people will say, hey, instead of that line, say this, right? And I go, no shot.

I'll never say it. It will never exit my mouth until I write it down. And I see it written. and then I can say it. I can't say it from hearing it. I have to see it. So understanding how you learn becomes a huge part of your process for success, right? Everything you do, if you can understand how you take it in, then you eliminate all that extra time that you spend trying to learn it.

You already know how you learn it. I look at it. Got it. Done. What happens if you just don't learn? Well, there's that. Just look for the water. Just that or something.

Basically, on that point, it's like, well, I got nothing for you. It's so true, though, there's certain ways. Like, even with me, I play the drums my whole life. And I can listen to a song. I can read the music. But I always needed my drum teacher and instructor to physically play it in front of me. And then I was able to do it no problem. Right.

So you're visual order. I watched him do it. You know, the fills, the crossovers, even though I was able to read the music and hear it. He's like, you can hear what I'm doing. It's like, no, I need to watch you do the crossover. What hand are you using all that stuff? Absolutely.

So it should be the same with golf. It's just something about golf makes it. You already, you've already acknowledged that that's what you do. I'm a visual learner. Because you saw the water and you hit it there. Right. Right. Right. So it is visual. Great callback.

Right. Like your brain is visual. Yes. You see things and your body then knows how to do it. So if you literally, played with a pro golfer, you'd probably play also pretty damn good because you would see this good swing, you would see the good tempo, and you would start to mimic it because that's the way your brain thinks. Right. So understanding that is the first key to getting to that next level. For me,

understanding how I think is what has made me basically pretty good at most things that I try to do in my life because I can get it quicker than the next guy because I know how I learn. Damn. So if you all, you know, you clearly must have taken the same sort of analytical approach to work to all of your work. Yes. And been kind of that intense about things. Because I imagine there's there's some people you work with who are the complete opposite of approach. Absolutely. Show up and more wing it or whatever you want to call it. Was that, you know, like meshing with people? Was it ever, is it ever tricky to kind of figure out the differences in style or how does that work? As an actor, no, right? Because everybody has their own process. And if you say your line, your moment's done. My line's next. Right. So however it works for me to create the moment and for you, like, I can play off of whatever you're doing because I know what I'm doing. Right. Right.

So that's not a problem. But I'm also a director. So part of being a director is I need to understand how you learn and how you learn and how you learn and how you learn and how you learn. Because if I know how you learn, then I know how to give you a note to get you to change the way you're doing something for the project. So what did you do little like tests early on to kind of figure out how people learn? Absolutely. So in conversation, right, you see things that they pick up on, right? And because you're aware of it, right? Like, I know how he learns because he's already told me. He didn't realize he told me, but he already told me, right? So I've asked questions and I'll ask them questions just getting to know them that gives me the information on each individual, how they learn, way they think. Sometimes you don't get it and sometimes you just like throw things up against the wall and it don't stick. But most of the time, that's what you're working on. So it never really. affected that, but to even talk about how analytical

I am, right, so my game show, catch 21, right? In my game show, I have to actually tell everybody what the next card would mean to their hand. Right? So, a seven shows up. You have a seven, it's a

14. You have an 8, it's 15, right? So I had to come up with being able to, because there's nobody in my ear telling me, I'm going, all right, it's a six. That'll give you with this, and it'll give you that, and it'll give you with that. What do you want to do? Right? So I've got to do that on every card played throughout the game. Well, I had to create a system in my head that made sense to me, right? In my game, you're never going to, unless it's an ace and a king, you're never going to get 21 in two cards, right? So that's the

only way you get them in two cards. It's always three, right? So seven, seven, 14, 21, right? Plus minus from there. So if you plus one, you negative the next. right so let's just say seven and eight the next one's a six to get the 21 right it's just basic like so automatically I'm going that's a minus three that's a plus two right

knowing that plus two is minus two for the next card right so created that system to where I can see each card know exactly what the next card would be because I'm plus minus off of seven right wow seven 14 21 that's just working And it works for me. It's like, it works for your brain.

He's going to, the smoke's going to start coming out of his head. Kidney? He's got, kidding? He's got two. He just gave too many commands that computer over that.

Hold on, hold a, plus two, minus two. So plus two isn't, isn't plus two is minus two. But it's plus two of what? If he just puts his head down

during this, don't be insulted at him all the time. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. He just walks out of the room. He just walks out of the room. So who do you typically play golf with? I've got a crew of guys back at home.

You know, just at my golf club, there are a lot of great guys there. The celebrities would be Timberlake, Kunal Nyar from Big Bang Theory, Grant Show. You got any good JT stories playing golf with them? I mean, we just, we play all the time. He's similar to golf, right? Yeah, yeah, he's definitely, I mean, he's one of those guys in the last few years has gotten really good. to the point where I'm now using his coach. Because I'm like, his swing coach is a guy

but I'm a Drew Steckle who works with Kevin Kna, Jason Cochrag, Pat Perez, Cheston Hadley, William McGirt. Like, he's like a bunch of guys on tour. And he's out of Vegas. And so I go to Vegas and work with him for a day or two and then fly back. And he's amazing.

And he was up. So basically, I called him up and said, hey, who do you got at AT&T this year? He's like, these are the guys I'm playing that I, have going. I'm like, I want to be with one of your guys. Why? Because that means what I'm on the range

warming up, you'll be there. He'll be next to me. I'm like, I don't have to pay for the lesson at Pebble, because you're going to be with me, because you with the guy I'm playing with. This is perfect. Come on here and check this out. See what I'm doing. That's my

system to cheap. You're not the way you look. Turn it around a little bit. Were you ever able to pick the boss, and we call him the boss man, Tiger Woods' brain? Have you ever been able to? I've never been able to play golf or hang with him or anything. Trust me, it's starting to get annoying. It's going to say that's your ultimate guy that you get to watch, especially being so, like, you know, analytical with everything.

Dude, I would love to pick his brain. And the funny part of it is, like, we were at AT&T, and then he had his celebrity cup at Riviera on Monday. and I was like, some of the guys who were up there were going to that. I was like, hey, bro, can you invite the black guy? Why are you not trying to pull cards here? Why are you going to be the only one? Can another black guy come out and hang out? You know what I mean?

Chris Pratt don't play no golf. Come on. Put whatever card you can. You know what I'm right? That's great. Come on, Tiger. Let a brother hang one time. All right, Alfonso Rivera.

We really appreciate it. Catch 21. Yes. And America's funniest videos. iconic 30th season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my fifth season as host. It's pretty awesome.

It's pretty much the greatest job I've ever had. I so love going to work. I so love working with the producers and the writers and we have fun. And, you know, how many people get to go to work every day that they work? Because I only work 20 days a year on the show, which is awesome. A lot of time for golf. Why do you think I play? Because I got tied.

But it's just it's so great It's such a fun show You know I go and I laugh I laugh every day that I'm there And I get to laugh at these videos And have a great time And there's really nothing better than that So that's pretty cool

And then obviously my game show Catch 21 On Game Show Network I just I love this It was just a great concept You know as you can kind of tell With my analytical thinking That game is like the perfect game for me Because I just understand like the numbers

It brings fire in all the time. It's like, gotcha. Yep. You know. Not that brain. That brain is not fired at all. What is him there? You mess me up pretty good today.

He's going to go back and listen to this. No, I'm going to send you random videos of my swing just to throw you off your game. Gotcha. Just a whole mess up. He's been here. Why are you being out the way we learned? Because he made me feel.

So he's sick. He's twisted. He's twisted. He's twisted. I've been in here trying to help you out. I've been in here trying to help you out. Yeah. And all you want to do is mess up.

That's where he comes. That's the root of him. So you must be a lonely man. Oh, yeah. He is the post for child of misery loves company. So in sport teams, I love when my rival team loses more than I like when my team wins. I'm messed up. So he's an Islander's fan.

Okay. The background of his bone is Henrik Lunkwist on his knees after they just last the cup finals. For the Ranger. The Rangers' lowest moment is my background on my computer. Yes, and he's an Islander friend. Tells you everything to know about that man. So that's, he'll never work for him. There's some things going on in that brain.

Yeah. That the rest of us don't want to be a part of. That question. That's right. You can leave now. Perfect. We really appreciate the time. Thanks for you.

We'll report back on if you helped our games. I think there's no way you didn't. The putting thing is genius. No one's ever thought to do the stroke, look up at your target, and then continue the stroke while you look at the ball. So you can see what it looks like. Even with the full swing, we should be doing that. Absolutely. Look up, take a swing.

Because when you take a practice swing, you look up, then you stop, reset. And then you don't even know what that. something else, right? Because like, then I look down and I stop and then I re-try to figure out what I just did, which doesn't make any sense. And I try to do it where I look at the hole in putt. Right. And that's been.

Okay. Yes. Right. But I really like this idea because then you're just continuing it and reset your eyes on exactly what you're going on. You're turning it from a feeling into a visual. Yep. Right? So that's all that you're doing this is the feeling.

This is the visual. Perfect. Visual. Bang. I want to hug you. I mean, this is great. This was honest. Thanks so much.

Who knew? Then I was a golf coach. Yeah, right. Didn't see that coming. No. We appreciate it. We'll report back. Thank you very much for coming in.

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I don't know. You think like Fresh Prince. You think like this happy go lucky. He's dancing. He's winning dancing with the stars. All this, that. And then he's incredibly analytical and breaking everything down in a way that I've never heard before. It was awesome.

I mean, he hurt Frankie's brain for sure. Frankie's going to be thinking about. I was tripped up for you right now. I was tripped up. Like, it's just like you said, it's just doing for a loop. Like you have this like perception of a guy where it's like he's this laughable, go whatever you can just like joke around with them and then all of a sudden he nails you over the head with like analytics and perfect way to swing and targets and all these things that like your brain

goes through synapses and all these things and like what is happening yeah he's yeah it was such a joy to talk to he's mental he said he's mental he's such yeah he's a head case but he's a good and like knows the way he learns the way he works with people and then his ability to like get on the same page as everybody else the way they learn yeah is incredible and I think that probably just speaks to all the people that he's worked with over the years in one facet or another, he just can glue into how you do things great. This is an option. Like it was impressive.

Yeah. You think any of us are going to actually get better because of anything he said? Well, I think when he's talking to Lurch, he basically taught Lurch how to think. Like, Lurch had no idea, like, how do I even learn? And that was his big thing. We're like, how do you learn? And I think Lurch maybe had it backwards. His point about the practice putting strokes with you, I think.

thought was incredible because it is it is very people use the analogy of throwing a baseball about putting and touching golf all the time yep the difference is when you're throwing a baseball at somebody you're not looking at the ground yes you're looking at them and you throw the ball to them when you hit a shot and golf you look at the target you look at the hole but then you look down at the ground right before you hit your shot so you lose that whole perspective and that whole view and like Tiger always says like putt to the picture and like me and Frankie talked about that one time because you can't picture it the ground or else what the fuck are you putting to. So why would you then take, like, why would you stop taking practice strokes or only take

them when you're looking at the target because that's not what you're doing when you actually hit the shot? That was like such a perceptive point from him. I'm like, no, keep taking those strokes when you're looking at the ground because that's how you're actually going to hit the put is looking at the ground. Yeah, I mean, I'm all about things that makes sense, you know, just like from a very high level of perspective. Like, does this make sense?

And his thought on that just makes perfect sense. You know, in terms of my process, how is going about things before, didn't make any sense. Like, in my head, it kind of did. We never had a plan. So many hiccups in there. Yeah. Just didn't have a plan without one. But when he said that, I was like, yeah, I just can't wait to try this.

I know. There's reason for hope leaving that conversation, which is any good coach. That's all we're looking for in golf is hope. If you speak with the coach. If you speak with the coach, hope. Exactly. And then you have some success and then that you can build off that. But with any conversation with something like, you're just looking.

for a little glimmer of hope. When he told me that my eyes were like watering and I was like giddy smile. You know, it was like, I didn't know how to react. And he had such good energy that like he just delivered in such a way where it's like, I'd trust that guy with anything. I'd believe anything he said, but I think what he said was correct. Yeah, you could have told it. Right.

With like the way he delivers it and the positivity that he brings it, he could have told us anything about golf and we'd be like, man, that's a really good point. He could have been swinging righty for 30 years. Why don't you try left feel like, done. I'll buy lefty clothes. Done. I'll do it right now. Just stand on the other side.

Okay. How is anyone talking to Lurch with that neck thing you got going on with that collar? What the hell's going on with your collar, man? I mean, dude. He's got the bacon neck. You know how we wash clothes over at our place, man. The thing stinks. So Lurch has a-

What are we going to get in a new one? It comes with the apartment. Lurge has a shit. Burn the apartment to the ground if you have to wait 10 hours for your laundry. I'll give you the Shinnock. Six. Six hours. Lurch has a pink shinacock salmon.

Salmon. Sammon. I mean, Jake was like, pink. pink. I mean, it's kind of pink. Jake was so offended that you said pink. Jake's on hatch these days. That guy smokes weed.

He knows like what colors are. He's like, I know what different colors are. That's salmon. So you're wearing a salmon fucking quarter zip. And he put it in the wash. And I guess a lot of the listeners here know the thing that he went through where when you put a quarter zip through the wash and the type of quarter zip it is, it's got like that really big zip.

It's got a couple buttons on it by the neck. And he put that thing through the wash machine. And it just came out like a piece of bacon, man. It just ruined the whole. whole thing. It looks like a chicken's neck. Everything is all tied up and ruined and it's curved and it looks like a river. The zipper looks like a river now.

And it still decided to wear it out today. It's a great color. It's a great color. That's really what one is. It looks good on you too. Thank you. Yeah, it does. It compliments by Frank.

You don't get those every day. I appreciate that. That was very condesciting. It looks good on you. On you. I can't believe it. But it was, right. It was shocking that something looks good on it.

And by the way, the logic of me asking, do you guys still have that same dryer? is that maybe you should make a call and be like fix our fucking dryer because it takes five hours to dry a fucking sock. It's not broken, Trent. There's just a very rare technology where you have a washer and a dryer in one unit and it turns out, which we didn't know until after we entered the apartment, that it takes five hours and 15 minutes to do the dryer. Yeah, for those that don't know who, you know,

I think we talked about this a couple, maybe a year ago at this point, these guys just have a dryer that it takes five hours to dry a piece of clothing. Actually, pro tip now that I just, this just shot into my brain. Okay. When I go out and check apartments out, I always turn the shower on to see what kind of pressure I'm dealing with in the apartment. If you see a singular unit like this, hit the power and see what kind of timetable you're working off of. I just can't believe you guys haven't. So it's not broken?

It works perfectly. You guys got a dryer from 1910? Water pressure. I always do that. How about my girlfriend's dad? I guess there's a new law. What was that? What was that face?

Well, just like, where the hell are you going? I was just looking interesting. The water pressure. He like, apparently there's like a rule that like you like you have to like have a certain thing now on Long Island with like it stops the water pressure from being as much. It's like a water preserver thing. He just yanked that thing out of the. Like a water governor. Yeah.

That's no good. And he just yanked that thing out of the of the head. Well, now you're just going to get arrested. You can get arrested for that, you think? I don't know. Sir, bringing in. You can get arrested for that? You're just saying like it's a long island.

like law and then he just ripped it out of the wall. You're washing the shampoo out of your hair too fast. You might be a dead boy here soon. Regulator, Long Island. Oh, man. Water pressure is super important. Hotels, very important always. You don't want to just waste water.

It's causing your low water pressure. I don't think we're a water podcast. We've had a ton of extensive debates about water on this show. Are you more of a bacon burnt guy? I've said this my whole life. When I show up to a place, a breakfast place, I say, can you please burn your bacon to the point where you don't think you can serve it anymore and then keep it on for another minute. You're a lunatic. No, I love that shit crispy.

So you should be crisp. I love dark charred bacon, like burnt, black. I like no remnants of the animal anymore, just char. I love it too. Do you like your burger well, well done? I like a char around the outside. So like a homemade burger, if you can throw that on the grill and you get that char around the outside, it could still be medium rare. I can still, you know what I mean, medium on the inside.

But if you can get that char on the outside, like my stakes now, I get charred on the outside. Pittsburgh. You get it Pittsburgh. Too many people. You ever heard that? No. No. On the inside, it's rare.

I like a Pittsburgh medium rare. So I don't know what that's called. Fucking. Yeah, I always should just, I didn't know there was multiple options. Pittsburgh is really crispy on the outside and like, like, like, alive in the middle. I think I would like that. It's delicious. Lurch like that.

You call Philly? He goes, I don't know what the fuck that's called. Philly? Just another Pennsylvania city? No, I'm very happy to compare it to the last podcast Because last time I left you guys only five minutes in. How was your trip? It was good.

It was fine. It was that long, but I got to watch the Islander game. You got to listen to it. Yeah, you didn't watch it. Well, I watched it. Yeah, you put it on your phone and put it on the top of your steering wheel or something. No problem. Boy, is that dangerous.

No, actually, I had a huge suburban. It was like a big car. Great. It could kill the bigger the better. They have a touchscreen thing with a reaper thing with a real. really big, um, bezel. Should that be the word? Bezzel?

What's the word? What's the word? What's the word? For the thing where like, um, I used to like, when I had a, I used to have a Hyundai Genesis coop. It was like my cool car and I used to be able to swap out where the, uh, punk used to be able to swap out where the touchscreen was. And there was a, there was a word for the thing.

Whatever. Whatever the dash, whatever. It's got a screen in the car. The screen is a car. And it's got a huge indent in it. I was going to put the phone screen in there. And, you know, I didn't watch the game. as I drove, it's just like, you know, when I stopped or whatever, I turned over and the island

won the game. Yeah. So the trip was good. Trip was fine. Did you stay down there for the night? No, it was a bizarre feeling driving all the way down for two hours and 40 minutes into the Borgata, dropped the keys off as the car was still rolling and then just exited the parking lot. Just like paying a toll on the Jersey Turpike.

Which another thing, I didn't pay one toll. Wait, listen to this. The rental car didn't give me a easy pass and I had no cash. So I stopped at one of these guys. I said, what do I do now? That process sucks. I know that process. So what do I do?

I just kept blowing right through them. And I said, like, mail in like a dollar $1.25. Unpaid. Unpaid. Unpaid. But I never stopped at that point. I just kept going underneath the,

that's the right move. And then just bill it, whatever the bill is. Do I have to bill it? Does the rental car place? It will go to the rental car company and then they'll charge you because each time. Because my license is there. Yep.

Will I get arrested one day? Like for, uh, no, probably like, outstanding. The bills that have racked up to like two grand. And going to AC,

you hit 30 tolls. It's crazy. I got arrested one time for an unpaid parking ticket. Oh, yeah, I was in Jersey. No joke. How many fucking guys that take you to get you down? No, so. Wrangling in a huge whale.

He's getting back up again. They hire those whalers from Alaska to come in on top of the buildings. They're shooting fucking bow and arrows through your neck. Go. So my parents are divorced. We got them. We got them. I got a parking ticket.

They mailed the parking ticket to my car. my mom's place, which I never really go to. A year goes by or something like this. I don't even think about it. And anyways, cop pulls me over. He's like, do you know why there's a warrant out for your arrest? I was like, I have no idea why there's a warrant out for my arrest. Yeah.

I'm not able to drive. He's got to cuff me, bring me into station. Thank God I had $150 cash on me. Or would I believe had to stay the night in prison in like the local town jail. You would dominate prison. And then, like, I got cuffed and two cops held my elbow. and walked me into the station. It was a joke.

And then from there, I paid my bail. I walked back to where my brother was. He was, like, at the beach, I had, like, no car. I wasn't going to call anyone, because I was just totally deflated. And so I'm walking that way. That's what you should call him. The cop drives by me, and I give him a wave kind of like an FU. Like, this kind of sucks.

And he arrested you again? It was in my hometown. Like, it was 100 feet from my house. Like, it would have been nice to just, you know, say, like, I'll go home, figure this out. Weeks, two weeks later, I had to go in, fight it. And it was a $15 parking ticket. Yep. They gave me $135 back and I was on my way.

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10th hole is probably one of the more exciting, drivable, reachable par fours on planet Earth. You watch guys hit it up there, incredibly thin, green, bunkers on all sides. You'll see guys go bunker to bunker to bunker to bunker throughout the entire week. It's fantastic. Tiger had a great comment. He was talking about playing with Justin Thomas and how they're friends and all that. And he slipped in a little, yeah, JT's great. He's really good. He's very focused, hardworking. And then he just said, I carried his ass on Australia, which I like that. He's always kind of, you know, sneaking in some jab.

He's got a jab. He's got to check him. He's like, I'm still Tiger Woods. He never doesn't go into a conversation without a punch, I feel like. He's always got something. Well, he always goes into the press conferences, and he's always got one joke that he's, that he's, some decent joke that he's going to smile and maybe like half the room is going to laugh at.

But he always, he says it, gives it a beat and then wide smile. That's sort of how he does it. What was the big one that he missed on? Oh, fuck. I knew you were going to ask me that. Was it like August? and I don't know if it was as big of a scene as Augusta. I know you blogged it probably a couple times.

I think you might even done like an anniversary to it whenever it would come up. But one of his big, huge misses was in one of those press conferences with one of those dad jokes. And it just fell so far. I'll try to find it because it was great. We're going to do from the gallery, ladies and gentlemen. We haven't done from the gallery in a while. I got a few good ones that I would like to get into for Playette, Barsall Sports.com. That's how you submit.

Just put the subject line from the gallery. keep it short or I won't read it. I've said that many times. Byron said, have you seen the graph golf ball? Apparently you can track where your ball is at should you ever have trouble finding it. I came across an ad earlier. I wanted to hear your guys' thoughts on it.

I feel like people have been saying this forever. How do you not put a microchip in a golf ball so that it would save us all a ton of time, especially in the fall? You got leaves everywhere. You're in a place where you got some fescuey stuff and you're like, I know it's in this 20 or 30 foot area, but I just can't find it.

It was a ton of time. I just don't know how that affects the science of the golf ball. Like, I feel like, and we actually, we toured the tireless factory. And they showed us in very careful detail, exactly how they make a ProV1, ProV1X, all their golf balls. And it was amazing. The core, the shell, the multi, all the different layers and facets that go into it and how it's taken, you know, dozens of years to perfect it and get it to this point that it's at now. That I think if you put a microchip in it, A, it's got to be significantly more expensive.

and B, it has to just take away from the integrity of the golf ball, right? I totally agree. I mean, like, the microchip or whatever has some substance in it that it also can, like, have a two-pronged approach where it has, like, that little ball inside that everything compresses off of. I just don't understand how it wouldn't come off is, like, you know, not to throw a hard shot here, but just like a top flight frozen. You can take a shot at top plate. Yeah.

You know, just like a horrible golf ball that you're like, yeah, this thing's... Top-lice sucks. Yeah, I mean, good things. you'll be able to find this scrapball on the leaves and whatnot. But, yeah, I got to think that it just would not work as well. There's nothing worse than when you're playing like a top flight or something. You're at that point in the round. You have a shit round or in the bag.

And you run low on balls. You pull out a top flight. And you finally hit like a really good chip. And you clip one and it goes in there. And it should spin and check. And it just goes marble. Do you just rolls off the back of the green. You're like, motherfucker.

I know. It's so. It's so frustrating. I don't know how. It's like the smallest microchip you can get. This golf ball can make a noise. Siren. Come on.

Come on. You can hit like your button. I don't care what happens to my distance, whatever. I'll never lose a ball. So I'll say, like maybe the strokes I'll lose because the ball won't be spinning as much. I'll gain by never losing a golf ball. I mean, you hit in the water a lot. True.

You can't miss water. We already talked about it. There's so many times that I use a ball, though. Like, if you sprayed 100 yards OB, like it's still gone. I know. there's so many times you lose a ball where it's like... I saw it land here. You saw it in the fescue.

Like, maybe you can hack it out, but instead you're hitting another one from wherever. You're hitting a stroke. I'm on this website, too. This thing looks sweet. That microchip, I will say, microchip is like... It looks too big.

60% the size of the golf ball. I know that... I would love to try. Look at that fake. I thought it was going to be the size of like the head of a pin or something. Me too. It's basically the whole core of the golf ball.

Yes. There's no core. It's like the size of a penny. I thought we were further along with technology. That feels like I'm looking at one of those computers from 1950. That's the size of a warehouse. And they're like, this has the technology of an iPhone. We're not as far along as I.

Have you guys seen that Instagram guy that basically finds old golf balls and cuts them in half? Have you seen this guy? I used to follow them. Anyways, basically, people send them these old golf balls. I could see you being fascinated by this. And he just cuts him in half. You know what I'm saying? Then he just shows you the core of what they look like.

It's these old pro vs. These old golf balls really cool. cool um could you imagine him not knowing what this golf ball was somebody sends him one and he cuts it in half and like microchips in it the government's listening yes everything we do they're listening that is that is that is that chip in the middle we got to get better than this i don't even think it's available yet i think they have like it's like a mission statement like they're like uh i think then i'll give them a little piece of advice you're going to make it your mission statement it's not even a real thing make that microchip a 10th of that side just lie to me yep if it takes us a

decade to get there that's fine if i'm spending a little bit of it's fine if i'm spending I like the idea, man. I love the idea. I think their head's in the right spot. I feel like there could be just like a piece of like tape that you could put on the outside. Why can't we. Tell me what you mean. Why can't we figure that's dumb?

Why can't we figure out why can't we figure out like a way to make whatever material goes into the ball be able to be traced by some sort of right? Yeah. As you get like when you're walking on the beach with the little detector thing and it goes, right. Like something, it doesn't have to be your phone, doesn't have to be as crazy as like an app, but like why can't whatever material goes into that ball be traced by a fucking little noise? How'd you probably brag you walking around? Yes. Just like his cell phone with a detector.

He's just, shh, shh, everybody, shh, beep. It's like here somewhere. That would be fucking great. I like the idea. I don't think we're there yet. Clearly the size of this damn thing. Looks like a beach ball. This guy put that thing inside of.

So that's not feasible, but we've all said it many times you're walking around. I know it's here. There's got to be a way that we can detect him. So I like that. Byron, thank you for pointing it out. Hopefully that graph company figures it out. I'll get involved and I'll buy some. Tim says, Tiger wins just three more tournaments in his entire career, all majors,

ties him with Jack and makes 85 total PGA tour wins the most of all time. We all know how we feel, but would Tiger then become the undisputed greatest golfer of all time? Undisputed probably no, but I think, If you gotten any argument with anyone, it would be impossible for you to lose the argument that Tigers are the greatest golf all time. He would be tied for the most majors. Yeah, if he matches, then it's like,

then it's really open season. Yep, and he would have the most PGA tour wins of all time. Why is that now undisputed? Because I think people would be like, well, it's just the majors. And then they would go into, like, Jack has 19 second place finishes in majors. And if you weigh more, the majors, they have the same wins. But, like, I think people would argue that. They also would probably get into, like, Jack had to play against, you know,

Arnie and Gary Player and these total legends of the game, like people could argue. It just wouldn't be totally undisputed, I think. I'm not sure if we can ever get to an undisputed place with the way people are. I think they might just ride with Jack forever, regardless of what happens. Potentially. I think if Tiger gets to 19 maybe. Yeah. You know, I got to think at that point.

It's almost like how, like what argument is possibly. It's never going to be 100%, but I feel like there's a right and wrong side of that. Right. If it hits 19. That makes sense. And we're on the right side. We're on the right side right now. We're right now.

we're correct right now we've been on the right for a long time i've never been wrong i think we no never no who you think's been wrong the most on this show frankie yeah agree the fuck does that me definitely definitely what is that i don't know even when you're wrong you'll prove that you're wrong yourself i think we don't even have to talk to the really the one that stands out to me is the and we don't have to get into it again because i do not want to was the pizza clamp chowder thing okay you want to no i don't that's what i just said i don't want to the problem with talking with frank He can't not get into it now. Before this show's over, he'll find a way to get into that.

And I've been wrong. We've all been wrong in the show a bunch, but I think if I'm only want to taste, I take risks. Oh, my God. You're pathetic. Cookie cutter fucking. I'm out here talking clam. Yeah, I'm out here talking clam chatter and pizza. I'm willing to stand behind my words.

Tiger Woods says that golfing's not a turn you can use. I said, yes, it is. You little, I was going to say a little bitch. Whoa. Let's say you little bitch, but I don't know what's happening. I said, you little bitch. a little bitch. I'm not going to call him a little bitch. I stopped myself. Okay. You kind of did that. Yeah, but I was trying to give up the impression that I am ready to go. I'm ready. I'll argue with you. You know? I'm not afraid.

And I like that's how to you. Yeah. But it doesn't, that doesn't change. Doesn't necessarily translate the comment. People will say I'm wrong there. Right. Like, no, you're wrong. It's golf. Play golf. Golf player. And I say, no, you're wrong. You're wrong. Right. So the idea of right and wrong is subjective is what you're saying. Sure. We're using two bigger words today. Plus two. Yeah, we do need to dial it back. What the fuck was he talking about with that? What? No, he was... You got to get that.

You understood that? I didn't... That doesn't work in my head, but I understand his logic. I guess I understand the logic. I would never be able to have... No, you think of a different way, but that's like, to his point, everybody learns and goes about things differently. That's who's the one... So seven...

So he's saying seven, six... He's always on eight? He's always on sevens. He's always... He's always basically going off of, like, 14. Right? Yes. And like, so if you're going to get two cards to 14, so if they get an 8, 7, they're plus one.

Because they're one over 15. No, I don't. One over 14. I don't think I have this strong of grasp on it as I did a mere minute ago. Just a mere minute. Is it similar to the fives that you think that you taught me? Yes, it is. It is.

Yeah. It is very similar. Yeah, it is actually. Boiling down the final number to smaller segments of. of the number. You know, it's always fun? Based on a consistent number, which your situation's five, you're trying to get to 90.

Yeah. To look at someone, I think this is always fun. When someone's deep in thought trying to figure something out, like right now you're just like playing with like a drawstring, but you're looking like I want to figure out whatever's going on. I want to be with the cool. I want to be with the cool kids that know what's going on. And I think...

Well, you better shift this way. Let me say it over here. Let me say it this way. He knows that the goal is to get to get to 21. Yep. and he bases that after two cards on 14. And the reason he does that is, like Lurcha saying, if you have an 8 and 7, you're at 15.

He knows you're plus 1. So he now knows immediately if a 7 comes up, 7 plus 1 is too much. So that plus 1 is relative to 14, which is in the next card. So he already knows in his brain. He doesn't have to then go, wait, what was he at? Was he at 15? So now he's plus 7. Oh, that's too many.

He already has boiled it down to just plus 1, minus 1, off of seven. So if the next, you know what I'm saying? I see. That makes more sense. Similar to you being like, okay,

everything's off five. So now if I, if I, you're basically, you're going plus or minus off of five. Correct. So your birdie is four.

Four. No matter what the par of the whole is. Doesn't matter. And your bogey is six. Yep. Which is plus one versus minus one.

Same thing he's doing. I really think more people should do the fives thing. I totally agree. At least in my position. I totally agree. Someone who like isn't nearly as good or like struggles to break 100.

I think they should 100% do the five thing. Obviously, it has not worked for me yet. What is the five thing? I think it has. So if you shoot five on every golf hole, you'll shoot a 90. On 18 holes. If you shoot five?

Yes, if you shoot five. Wow. If you make a five on it. Wait, what did you say? If you shoot five. That hurt my ear, man. That was a nail. Nails on my chalkboard right there.

My take on that was always, if you can understand me, I really don't care. How fucking natural was that, though? If you shoot five. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's correct. It just worked there. So anyways, if you make a five, you shoot a five.

Amazing. That was so good. If you, Can we clip that and just put that on fucking repeat? So anyways, people are going to delete it to a five on every hole. You should a 90. So I was talking with Trent and saying just go off that logic.

And in that way, on a par three, gives you a chance to basically get under, get something back. Yeah, like you go to part three and you're like, oh shit, I got a real shot here.

So if you make all fives and you par one par three, You shoot a 43. Like, that's a great night old. And you, you're a good, you're a pretty good golfer. You still use the system or no? I think you said that you did. I do. I still do.

I think it's great. Yeah, it gives you to like with your style of game, Trent, it, like, part three should be birdie opportunities. Yes. Right? Like, because you're going, okay, par five, there's more opportunity for disaster. You got to hit more shots. It's longer. Big time.

All that shit. When you're on a part three, it's like, all right, I'm one swing away from like, I can have an eagle here. Or like a Frankie's fucking computers. Sounds like a spaceship. Get ready to take off. But yeah.

Cape Canaver. Like I used to be. He's got his microphone. Terrified. That's his computer. Terrified of par threes. Just laptops. As a general idea.

Yeah, man, those pizza reviews, they just, they're sick and tired of doing. Whatever this fucking pizza review does to this, someone's running around. There's a million little people running around. And they're just crank,

like little hamster just cranking. I love the idea of that. I love the idea of that. Pete and Elvis and Asbury Park Pete's got to go out right now You're just fucking screaming It's like Santa's workshop in there Yeah

A bunch of loose arms Like in their way as they run They can make a Disney movie about that Definitely They did an inside out that It was like Pixar right That's a great movie That's a very sad movie

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siren that was stopped at a because I live on like a intersection yeah a street I mean it's like yeah two lanes four lanes six lanes eight like like Clint Eastwood the way you're looking in and just nowhere lanes of traffic both both ways no matter which way you go and I live on the corner of it and last night there was a fucking fire truck that was just screaming just dude and then my heat was clanking at the same moment. And I remember sitting in my bed looking up being like, what the fuck is happening right now? There is so much noise going on that it's impossible to be this loud in this room right now.

Like, he was going clang! Clank! And then there was a siren like so loud. I started laughing. I imagine for you to be able to sleep. It needs to be like soundproof walls and you need to be in a straight job. I'm actually gotten used to it living in the city. You just don't hear it as much.

But this was a moment where it felt like there was just chaos. happening inside my room. Is this also the room with the haunted wall? Yes, I have a haunted wall. Every picture I put up comes flying down. It's been good recently because I've nailed them to the walls like multiple times. They're working their way out. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's Kurt Cobain that falls too. I've ever told you that? No. It's a Kurt Cobain picture that falls all the time. Damn. He's dead. He is. Yeah. No, he is. Or is he? Jack asked, do you believe that Kevin Kisner could break 90 at Palmetto using only a 56 degree wedge and nothing else? Probably hits his 56 degree what like 110 yards 120 yards yeah and I bet he could skull it if you really

wanted to off the tee I bet he could like blade it out there pretty far I don't think I could doubt anything he does I would say yes and I don't think I could doubt anything he does especially at palmetto when he remember watching him putt at palmetto it was just like a couple long par threes on there where he's not I'm going to come close off the tee right still if he makes a four there that's a that's a that's a birdie like who knows the damage he's going to be in on par fours by not being like on the green stuff right like what if was there part three's that you like carry. I think it'd be close, but I would bet my, I would bet hard that he would do it.

Hmm. He's too good strategically. He flushes it. He's got a put with it. He's got a put with it? Every, he's going to do everything. Hmm. I just don't know that he has the distance.

He's already a short player. See you, see you. See you, boy. Just throw it out. Yeah. Okay.

Alert just said throw your body out off camera. Because you're the peak male performance body. Which is not really a roast, but walking. I'm going to keep talking about you to the point where you can't stay long enough to retort. So just let you know. I'm going to win this battle. See you. You know,

you know what I just? You're a two- you're yelling. You're not on the mind. You know what I just notice? Any insult that you give while walking away feels like a win. Yeah. His insult wasn't that good,

but it was like, oh, he's walking away. I remember it's actually now that I'm saying it, Seinfeld used to have a bit where anybody who smokes cigarettes has the upper hand in an argument because they can smoke and then as they make their final point, they throw it on the ground.

They're like, well, you're just wrong. And they stomp it out. How great is that? How great is that? And that's how it feels when you're walking away. It's like fucking spot.

Dude, I went to... Lurt said throw your body out, which does not make sense. No, it doesn't. But I was still like, oh, shit. I went to the Islander game last night. They've won two games in a row. They beat the Capitals and the Flyers, home and home, played very well. Got two, four huge points.

I went with my buddy Kyle. He's a listener of the show. And he, so I left that last show. I hadn't listened to it yet. And he was telling me that you said that they built the, they built the set around Clint Eastwood. And I lost it at the island of game. bro. So fucking funny.

I couldn't I couldn't I couldn't watch the game anymore. I was laughing so hard. Picture this. Picture this. Clinyswood doesn't move from that spot. And just every year CBS

shows back up and they build a set around his body and then they put the microphone on his on his head. That's such a good visual man. It's so funny. I've convinced myself that's what they do now. That is such a funny thing to say.

They just build that set around Clinties. every year. That is so funny. What the fuck was he doing? What was he looking at? Some people think he's, yeah, some people are thinking he's woke to it now

because every year, he's like the old man. It's a thing, like, people like, here comes Clint Eastwood. So him's staring off. And when he turns to Nance, he does give a little bit of a grin. So people are thinking that maybe he's just like, he's playing it up now. Maybe he's just senile. Yeah, they just built that set around him.

And that's why he's going. God, that's funny stuff. I think kids would be close. maybe we'll have them try it out sometime I think that's all I got Genesis invitational tigers are playing golf when you people are listening to this podcast

to be Tiger Time he's with JT he's with Steve Stricker so it's a great fucking weekend to watch some golf 0 for 11 at this course Crazy Town So that's something to look out for Dude I will say the videos of him

Swinging as a 16 year old He looked like at that moment If you didn't think he was going to win 35 majors Year or Mora He looked perfect when it was as 16, his swing, his golf game, his tempo, it was outrageous. It's just so amazing.

And this is a, we are a pro tiger podcast. But if you go back and look or you watch a documentary on how much hype was surrounding him as a young child, and it's like, holy shit, people, and people were saying, like, this guy is going to be the next god of this game. And then he just did it. And then he went out. Imagine like, right, like all those expectations, everybody hyping him up, that pressure of the fucking world.

He got a gigantic contract with Nike, like the day he turned pro. Yeah. And then less than a year later, he was. won the masters by 12 shots. Right. It's like, like if it was a movie, people would be like,

well, all right, he's not, he's going to flop. Like, there's so many expectations. People are thinking he's going to do so much that it's not going to work. But then he just did it.

And then he changes his swing. Yeah. And then comes back in 2000 and wins four major championships in a row. It's incredible. One of them by 15, another one by eight. It's like,

what are we doing? He's a mythical creature. Anyways, did someone send you guys a book? I'm not going to name the book. Did someone send you guys a book, a tiger woods book? Yeah.

How the hell They got my home address And mom's like You got a book I'm like I don't read I don't I didn't get a book Huh

You don't I'll maybe I'll read a tiger book I read the other one Tiger Woods Yeah That's just because it's about Tiger Woods It's got his face on it Yep

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