Fore Play - “Almost Masters Week” w/ Hank Haney

Episode Date: March 27, 2018

We're one week out from Masters Week and former Tiger Woods swing coach Hank Haney joins the show. Tiger racked up 6 majors and won 33% of the tournaments he entered under Hank, one of the most dominant stretches in golf history. Hank talks Tiger, the Masters, Ian Poulter's ability to shank the ball, Bubba Watson, Charles Barkley's swing and much more. The boys also recap the WGC Match Play and how Riggs doesn't sleep anymore because the last 50 Masters final rounds are now available on YouTube!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Folks, we have a huge show this week on 4Play. We have a very special guest. His name is Hank Haney. He was the swing coach for Tiger Woods for, I believe, six years. He oversaw him winning several major championships, winning a massive amount of his tournaments, winning all kinds of tournaments.

We talked to him about Tiger Woods, about Ian Polter and his tendency to show him. We talked to him for a solid 35 minutes, and he was fantastic. Ian Polter's shots, talking a lot of Tiger. It was very, very good. Awesome, awesome interview with Hank Haney. Big shout to him for jumping on with the boys, so stay tuned for that. But first, we have to tell you about our good friends at E-Harmony. Look, Trent and I, we are pretty much the best versions of ourselves right now.

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He goes through a lot of the different holes, how Tiger is going to play, and where he may or may not have issues, all kinds of good stuff. Coming up with the Masters, we have, I have to say, maybe our best release of merchandise in the history of the Ford Play Golf Podcast. We got the new head covers in the store. We came up with these polos, these Make Sunday's Great again, these Tiger Woods polos that are just flying off the show.

I mean, when they came into the office and we got our shirts, the place stopped. People are like, what are those? We need those. We want those. We basically created a Michael Jordan Nike logo that is just ours. And we're just, it looks so good. It's appalling that it's ours.

It's so good that we just want to, we put it on everything. Everything. We put it on pocket teas. We put it on golf towels. We might as well. We just put it out. It's just, it's such a good logo. It's like, wow, I'm an athletic savage now that I have this cool logo of Tiger Woods.

And the head, I mean, the head covers are already on their way out. People are sending us pictures of them. They look fantastic. People are ready to golf. They're leather. They're so fire. Everywhere I go with mine on my back. People are like, oh, wow, where did you get that Barstallel head cover?

I got it at store. It's stored up barstlesports. If you'll recall, we had, we teased them early. And we were, like, that was on us. We teased them like six weeks before they went on sale. And it started out. I would get, we would get DMs like, hey, those things are great. Those things are great.

When they're going to sell them? And then by the end, when we still hadn't put them out, they were angry DMs. But we finally put them out. People are buying them. People are mad at us about the head cover. But they're out now. People are buying them. So get them before they sell out because those puppies are going.

There's new pocket teas. We got the oldies are still in there. The Saturday's for the boys golf towel. There's the bar stool standard classic golf towel, all kinds of good stuff. So go check it out in the store. It's almost golf season, which is incredible. It needs to get a little bit warmer up here in the East Coast, I'll be honest. I think we're going to start touching the low 50s if I was looking at the forecast.

So we're getting there. Okay. So little bit surely. I just came back from Charleston. I was in Charleston, South Carolina, big buddies trip. We had 24 guys. I saw some of your sick. You love that drone, baby.

I'm drone life guy. Yep. I'm now a drone life guy. I'm all in. For a long time, you were a drone life guy who hadn't gotten it out of the package, and now you take it on all your trips, and it's the shots are fantastic. Well, there was like a two-month period where I owned a drone, but had never flown it. Yep. It was just in a box in my apartment.

And I had, I don't know if I ever told this story here, but I had the one incident where I tried to fly it, the first night I got it in my bedroom in my apartment. Poor choice. Poor choice. Very bad choice. It was, yeah, in my brain, I just didn't. Can I ask a stupid question? Why is that a bad idea? Like, I understand what drones are, but.

Because Trent, the thing's like a helicopter. I mean, it's like, it's literally like a small helicopter. And so when you've never flown it before. Okay, now we're getting there. That's an issue. The other main issue is that the thing actually is super easy to fly, like crazy easy. A toddler could fly. It's unbelievably easy.

But in my apartment building, because I live in like a massive residential building, the GPS, the whole thing is based off GPS, right? It's like GPS locator this, that, it knows everything. He knows where walls are, so it won't fly into walls, stuff like that. However, when you're on like the middle floor of a giant like steel concrete building, the GPS doesn't work. So the thing just spazes out. And it's the way that it like begins flight just in general. You hit like a button. You do a thing and it just flies up to eye level is what it does.

And so I didn't know any of this. And I'm just, I don't even know how the controller works. I don't know anything. I'm just like I'm going through the registration steps on my phone. I'm hitting buttons, hitting buttons. And eventually I hit a button that was like the last one was like. would you like to take flight now? And I just thought we were doing like the yes,

I accept terms thing. Right. Blindly. And I hit that and then it just went, Zzzzz and started flying in my fucking face in my room. So I ran into the corner of my room. I'm like hiding in the corner of my room looking up at the drone, trying to like trying to knock it and starts to go towards a wall, right?

It's like going towards a wall, going towards a wall. And I can't get it to not go towards the wall. So I'm like, then I go to grab it underneath it at the bottom of it. Oh boy. And it has sensors at the bottom. Yeah. So it's leaping higher as I go to grab it to get away from rigs, trying to grab it.

And for whatever reason, it starts spats. I finally grab it, okay? I sneak up on it, like, sneak up on it. Like when you, like, swat a fly, right? You go crazy fast. Yep. If I grab it by the bottom of it, I got it. And then for whatever reason, it's trying to run away from me.

So the propellers start going bananas. Like the thing's going full speed, but not moving. Keep mind. It was like 11.30 at night in my apartment. Both my roommates are asleep. So I get text. Is everything okay over there? But I can't respond because I'm trying to fly the thing and I'm trying to get it to stop going crazy.

So I ended up in like a race against the battery basically being like, well, I don't know how to turn this thing off. Yep. And I don't want to do anything drastic because the things are going so fast, it will like fuck me up if it hits me. Yeah, and you don't want to break it. You also don't want to fuck yourself up. I don't want to break the drone up. I don't want to like, if I let go of it, I'm worried it's going to go 30 miles an hour into the wall or a window. or something.

So I'm just standing there holding this crazy drone that's making all kinds of noises. It's bright lights like a fucking UFO in my room. And eventually I just had to wait for it to run out of batteries, which is like 15 minutes. I'm just holding it and eventually it ran out of batteries. And I talked to my roommate Lertz the next day. And he's like, what the fuck happened in there last night? A little drone issue? And I was like, buddy.

But I mean, when the robots rise up, we're all dead. So long story short, I take drone pictures now. Really good pictures. I'm pretty good with the drone. I was down in South Carolina, this place called Wild Dunes Resort. Shout out to those guys. They have two golf courses. The last three holes on the Lynx course, those are the ones that I kept droning, super droneable holes, were just awesome.

And then we had like, since we had 24 guys, we had 12 on 12, rider cup style, you know, all that. Talked about it before last year. This is my annual college buddies trip, whatever. A lot of drinking, you know, go out in Charleston, awesome city. It had never been there before. and then at the actual resort, at Wild Dunes, it had these villas that, like, sleep six people each. So we had, like, four villas.

Oh, that's sick. With, like, kitchens and, like, you know, a bunch of different bedrooms and multiple bathrooms. And then we would set up in one of the villas a massive beard-eye tournament. Yep. And we just sat on there with a bunch of beers, played beard-eye, got up in the morning.

They had, like, this boardwalk. You walked down to the beach, hang out of the beach, teed off at, like, noon. We played probably about a five-and-a-half or six-hour round because we were so slow and we do the shotgun mulligans is a big part of the tournament. Okay. Throwback. Yep.

Shotgun mulligan. For anybody out there doesn't know is if you get the rule that we do is you get one shotgun mulligan for the front nine, one chocka mulligan for the back nine, and a floater that you can use whenever. Okay. And for anybody out there, it doesn't remember one of the first episode, shotgun mulligan is you hit a shitty shot. You would like to do a mulligan.

You have to do shotgun a beer before you do it. You got like 60 seconds after you shotgun to hit your next shot, blah, blah. Great rule. Awesome rule. Great rule. Not great rule. Base supply. No.

Turns out. Terrible for for having a good time and drinking. Great for all of those things. So it was awesome. Like I said, Wild Dunes was a really cool.

But the South Carolina coast, I want to say people like always rave about like South Carolina. There's like this, this mystique about it. How like awe. You know what it is? There's like a, for whatever reason,

the beaches are really like wide in South Carolina. I've never been in South Carolina. It's like, you know, like a lot of places in Florida will be like brush, weeds, brush, beach, and there's like 10 yards of beach, and then it's like the ocean. Yeah. For whatever reason in Carolina, South Carolina, and this wasn't just the tide because I asked,

it's like a lot of places they have like really wide, long stretches of beach. So there's like a massive, massive beach, and it just looks more beautiful. I don't say that sounds ideal. It was awesome. And I got a really good look at it with the Dronesky. Sure you did. Also the drum. It's called the Tiger Spark because I ordered the Sunday Red version.

Yeah? And it's got black propellers and a red shell. So it literally looks like Sunday time. Holy shit. I did not realize that. Now I want to become a drone guy. The best part of that registration process I was telling you about earlier is when you name it. Like, would you like to name it?

I said, yeah, duh. Tiger Spark. It's because it's actually called the DGI Spark, but I just called the Tiger Spark. Sure. So anyways, I had a great time in Charleston. We're not here to talk about me. We're here to talk about some golf. We had a great week down at the match play.

Austin Country Club. So it's an interesting one because there were a lot of massive, massive highlights. It was kind of a weird round robin where, like, Rory got, you know, he did in advance. DJ got crushed. Kiz came out of DJ's group. Yeah. And then went on a tear. It was kind of an interesting week.

What you think is kind of overall about the matchplay. Well, the one part that said out to me that I really liked was that they put Patrick Reed and Jordan Spieth in the same group. So we got that and we got the. the comment from Patrick Reed where he said, you know, somebody asked him, what do you think about Jordan Spee's match play skills? And he says, my back still hurts from the Ryder Cup.

So that's the type of thing that I really enjoy that you get from matchplay. When you get a matchup between guys like Patrick Green and Jordan Speath, who obviously have a very good history together on the same side. So when they get to face off and Patrick Green, who I feel like we've been talking about on this podcast now for a month straight, because he does something every week, him saying that those are the things you don't usually get in a stroke play event. So that's, I will say, overall in the tournament, Sunday was tough because you got to a point where Kisner was losing so badly to Bubba that there was no.

It's not a great format for that. Right. It's just not. You got two matches going on. One's a consolation and one where, you know, it's the final, but the one guy's getting blown out and you can see after five holes you knew where it was going. So it's funny because, you know, we've been preaching that there needs to be more match-played tournaments just because it's so cool to watch. But the counter argument is always that, you know, the big money. from advertisers, from sponsors, like beer money, all that at the tournament,

comes from the Sunday drama down the stretch, and you just don't get it enough in the match play format. You just don't. I mean, yeah, occasionally you're going to get a match. Remember there was Jason Day and the Duboisong guy back in when it was still in, where was it, an Arizona or Nevada or something like that, when he was getting up and down from like the frickin bushes in the middle, from like the cacti in the middle of the desert and all that.

But like very rarely do you get a very dramatic. match. I mean, you did have one with DJ and Rob last year, but it's just far too often, it's just not that close down the stretch. And when it's not, and you've got literally two people on the golf course, two. It's like, what the hell else are they supposed to cover? What are they supposed to do? And it's just, like, the most exciting part of the week is when you're in your cube and you get to watch match play. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Well, and it was interesting for guys, I guess, because our guy, Kisner was in the final, and Watson was in the final, who we don't necessarily like all that much. But for the casual fan, the guys who have been

watching Tiger these last two weeks in contention. We're like, this is fucking awesome. We're all jazzed up for it. And then you just literally get to watch Kevin Kisner get ragdolled by Bubba Watson, and it's over after five holes. Sorry, Kenzie. Yeah, the thing about Kis, sorry, Kiz.

Kiz had a really interesting week. He prevailed from the DJ group, which nobody, I mean, people who are literally tweeting at us RIP on, like, Tuesday night when it was, when the groups were revealed. Like, RIP to your buddy Kisner, he's going to lose, he's going to lose, like, 18 down to Dustin Johnson.

Yep. and he emerged from the group and then goes on, you know, when Saturday morning, and then just curb stops. Oh, my gosh. Ian Poulter, what was it, 8 and 6? 8 and 6. It was so much fun to watch because, again, this is interesting to guys like you and I, because we are friends with Kisner.

He's very friendly to the podcast. We hate Ian Poulter. And it's good versus evil. It's America versus Europe. It's all of these things, and you're nervous about the match because Ian Poulter has a very good history in terms of match play, obviously. So you're like, you're rooting for Kisner, but you know. And you're thinking the whole time, like, Kiz has not been playing great this year. He's not been having to, like, he's going to,

this is going to end at some point. He just kills Poulter. Like, kills Poulter. And we're like, what is going on? And then he goes on to face Norn, which was actually a very, very awesome match. Awesome match. I think it was, there was a stretch there four in a row where they just were trading Bernie. Yeah, when Kiz, too, he dropped like that 52-foot eagle bomb to have the match on like the 12th or 13th or whatever whole that was so um so it was awesome another part you like you see these matchups that's the fun part of this obviously you had bubble watson verse and i'm gonna screw this name up i was gonna practice it all weekend where it's appie barn rat i screw that up every single time yeah we'll go with that even the announcers but i even the

announcers i mean you know i to say this name you're uh you're a savant app he baron rat but you get it's called a it high it highlights guys like that where they're talking about how he he had $15,000 in his bank account and he went out and was like, fuck it, I'm buying a Ferrari. He's a very colorful person and a colorful personality. So I like when you get to highlight. That's when the matchplay is cool and interesting where guys you normally wouldn't see, they get a spotlight

shown on them because there's nothing else to show. It's awesome. And it's, you know what else the matchplay provides? It provides, it provides, like, passion, excitement, and fist pumps on a Wednesday. Yes. Right? Like, if you make a big pot on 17 to go one up on Wednesday, like that could be the difference between that very well could be the difference between

you playing the weekend and making a ton of money and literally going home on Friday afternoon. And you see the... Could be what happens on Wednesday. And so it's like the fistpoms. It's awesome. It's just, it's so much different.

The personality shine through more and you know, what's a gimmee pot, what's not going to be a gimmee pot? That's the type of shit you can see. And that's the stuff too. That's super relatable because that's what you play with your buddies on the weekend. You don't go out with your buddies

and make, well, we're going to play a 72-hole stroke play competition. You go out and you're like, let's do a buddy's match play. Is that good? like oh wow that big momentum shift there was a moment of 15 footer that he makes it very early on between day and duffner where uh day made duffner put out and afterwards duffner laid down his club and was like he was a little closer than i thought this is inside the leather that's not good huh so you get moments like that make it awesome and cool but it's always in the earlier stages and then once it starts to get whittled down where the drama should get you know intensified where we're like march madness it just kind of peters out yeah it does it's not again it's not that it peters out every year far too off that it does, and it just leaves you kind of like, I'm not that into this tournament anymore.

Like, actually seeing who made the weekend was more exciting than, like, who's going to win on Sunday. Another guy who came through nicely when you, you know, showcase matches was Alex Noren. People are getting to see him more and more and more. I love seeing him more and more. I want to call him the Swedish Bulldog. Can that be a thing?

That's it, Don. Swedish Bulldog, Alex Nore. Alex Nore and the Swedish Bulldog. I just looked at him. He looks like a Bulldog. He's got, like, kind of the bicked haircut almost, or the buzzed cut? Buzz cut, big neck, and he's a hell of a player.

So Swedish Bulldog. Does he have a huge neck? I didn't realize that. Maybe it was the shirt that he was wearing on Sunday. You might be right. I just don't know. Yeah, because he was doing the non-collar shirt thing, right? Yes.

And it just, it like kind of, it really highlights the neck. Made his neck look bigger. But long story short, Bubba Watson gets a second win. He cried again. He's having a hell of the year. He cried. He's good at golf. He's good again.

Very good at golf again. Bubba. So we actually talk a little Bubba with Hank Haney, which is cool. It's great to see, you know, the one thing that is a bummer is when you have the two or three guys, when our boy Frankie Bradley Pizza Makers on the show that all agree, it's nice to get the other side sometimes and all that. So it's great to have Hank on, and he talked about how Bubba's great guy. He knows Bubba. He's, you know, met him a bunch of times, interact with a bunch of times and all that.

So you can hear some Bubba talk from Hank Haney. Like I mentioned in our little intro, too, we also talk about Polter and his ability to shank the golf ball. Speaking of Polter, he had an instrument. Instagram trip daddy after he... Well, not even interesting... Well, yeah, here's the thing. So Kevin Kisner knocks him out. He...

Destroyes him. Go Kistak. So Poulter beats Louis Oostezen in the Sweet 16. Advances to play Kisner. After the Oostezen match, the officials come up to him and tell him, hey, congratulations. You just qualified for the Masters. No matter what happens, here on out, you will be making the trip to Augusta. Okay.

He gets Molly whipped by Kevin Kisner, and they tell him afterwards, oh, wait, we got that calculations wrong. You are number 51, top 50 get in. Sir, you're not going to be the Masters. Sorry, see you later. Wow. Interesting. So I'm looking, it sounds like they told him after the original match,

and then they told him 10 minutes before his match in the afternoon. Oh, I thought they told him after. Okay. So based off this thing, he says, I was told after this morning's round that I was in the Masters by Golf Channel, the media and the European tour. Then 10 minutes before I teed off this afternoon, I was told, sorry, points weren't correct.

You're not in yet. Which, if you're a believer... Then he got dusted. Got dusted. Which if you're a believer in whatever karma, I don't know what you want to call it, you'll remember that. We all thought that Ian Poulter had lost his tour card. You know, we were celebrating. We were celebrating.

I could not have been happier. And then it came out that, oh, no, if you do the math this way, you get it right, he gets to keep his tour card. So this is just coming back around a little bit with more mathematics biting the impolter and the ass. And then he almost won the players championship. He did almost win the players. He didn't want to win that, you know. It's been an interesting ride. And it's true.

He played for a second, like a little bit. We've had an interesting ride with Ian Poulter on this show. All right. Patrons, listen up. This break is brought to you by our friends at Draft. If you love golf, then you got to try. You have to try my new favorite app, Draft, D-R-A-F-T. Here's what it is. It's weekly fantasy golf, but on draft, you play real live snake drafts with other people. My buddies and I, so like I said, I've been on this app. I've been using this app nonstop. People know how much I'm, how competitive I am, how much I love to gamble, all that stuff.

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I mean, you know, you finish fourth in the match play. Match play's got an unbelievable field. Obviously not a bad week. JT's been on Fuego. He's probably the best player in the world right now. But he had a chance to technically get there. And I guess he admitted that it got to him a little bit. Right.

So if he had been, if he had just gotten to the final match, if he had beaten Bubba Watson yesterday morning, he would have moved into number one. That's right. And they asked him about it and he said, And most players would be like, you know, I'm not thinking about it. I'm living in the moment. I'm playing these matches.

I just want to win this. They always say that about the world ranking thing. Right. But Justin Thomas came out and said, no, I was thinking about it all throughout the match against Bobba Watson. And it screwed me up. And that's what forced me to lose. So I thought that was a nice old candid moment from our guy, Justin Thomas, who has had a rough go of it for the last month or so. So it's good to see him be candid about he was thinking about becoming number one and it rattled him a little bit.

He's had a rough go of it in terms of PR with like guys like us. He's at a good run of it in terms of just winning golf tournaments and being awesome at golf. True. I want to add another thing about JT. and my thoughts on him is that I've heard over the last couple of weeks, just from different conversations with people, a couple different stories about how people have gone and gotten beers with J.T. and said that he's a really good guy.

I think I'm starting to more realize that I don't love J.T. on the golf course. Interesting. I just, I don't, you know, because I don't. again, when I hear those stories, I try to take everything to account and try to, you know what I mean? I'm not trying to be like, I don't like that guy. It's over. I'm never going to like them. Yeah.

It's more like I'm trying to, you try to figure these guys out and like, what do they really like blah, blah, blah. Which it's tough when we're just sitting behind microphones and computers and we're just like, this is how I think and I assume that they act. Correct. You get a very small sample size of who they are and then they just go out and be normal people. So I think it's much more honest and open of me to be like, I actually have had a couple different people that, whether it's a girl. all channel folks or whatnot that have interacted with JT, Ben out, said he's an awesome guy to get beers with, even more so than like other guys on tour that you would think would be awesome,

but actually aren't. So I think I'm trying to get back to it, but like then that move of kicking the fan out and his reaction to it, even his reaction on Twitter and stuff like that, I hated. So I'm trying to kind of wrap my brain around the whole thing. Because again, I trust these people that are like, no, no, I've gotten beers with JT and like hung out with a couple of his crew. He's like one of the coolest guys in the crew.

He's great. So I just think, again, being in our position, I want to relay that information to people that JT, according to folks that I trust, is a really cool, good guy to get beers with. So, you know, I don't know, jury's still out. I don't know what to think. I did hate the move with the bunker.

It's just, it's tough. Let me tell you this. It's very big of you to even consider this. The fact that you are open to, you're not hard line being like, no matter what he does, I don't care what I hear about him. This is new evidence.

It's new evidence. And you're taking that into an account. You're not completely swatting it away. So that's big of you. The judge, you know, he allowed it, they just submitted new evidence, and I'm taking it into account. I will say every time I watch Bob Watson on a Sunday or when he wins, I hate that I hate him. Totally. It's a bummer.

I watch him. They do the slow motion of his swing. They show his feet where it looks like he's tap dancing. I should like everything about that. This is what we, I mean, we have this conversation every single time, but it's like we should like everything about him. He's an art. He isn't a legitimate artist out there. When they pan to him and he's got a driver in his hand, I'm genuinely an excited person.

With the pro tracer now as we talk about. But then... I'm like, here we go. Whereas like, you know, they could... Even when they panned like kids with a driver, I'm like, all right, whatever. It was so funny. Watching the... Like, not the most exciting guy with the driver is.

It's funny because watching the final between Bubba and Kisner was so funny because Bubba was winning all the holes. He was five up through five. Also, kids played terrible. I mean, he's bogie in every hole. What are you doing, Kisner? Right. You're listening, Kiz.

That was... It was hard to watch. It was, but Bubba's... He was, like, slapping it around. He's, like, in the weeds, hacking it across. the green and that they're the only people in the golf. There was a time when he hit four shots and it just kept being his turn. They can't show anything else.

Yeah. So they're showing kids like walk all the way across the green while Bubba's just waiting for me. He's in the woods. He's the other one out of the rough. He's in the ruff. He's in the ruffer. He's back in the bunker.

But it was funny watching them because Bubba was winning every hole. So he's driving first. He's going first. And Bubba hits it and it's awesome. It's shaping. It's bombing. It's going 400 whatever yards. And then Kiz just like wanders up afterwards and he's like,

all right, I guess I'll hit my drive now. I don't really want to, but you could just tell Kisner is like, this is a joke. It was interesting. Like you said, kids just kind of ran out of gas, but, God, what an awesome week for our guy. Finishing second that tournament is fucking fantastic. He cleared over a mill, by the way. Oh, that's awesome. Getting that momentum going for Augusta and all of that.

I know how badly he wants to be on the Ryder Cup team this year after all the success he had at the President's Cup. So really, really jacked up for our guy, Kiz. It's fun to watch Bubba play. I blog it today. There's that video that went a little viral. That guy smashing his laptop when Bubba was watching Bubba play. I don't believe that. Listen, listen, people.

I dislike Bubba just about as much as anybody. I'm not putting a hole through the front of my laptop. The most malicious punch, too, I've ever seen. It was scary, how hard that guy punched at Bubba Watson on his computer. But Bubba is fascinating to watch play. He's obviously vaulted up into a favorite, a betting favorite for the Masters. Speaking of the Masters, we have the last 50 years.

The final round has been put on to YouTube by the Masters, the final round coverage. I have not stopped watching this shit. Can I tell you my first reaction to when I saw that this was going to happen? I was legitimately worried about you. It's all. I'm worried about you. I'm surprised you're at work this week.

I'm surprised you're doing anything. I don't want to go sleep at night. It's on, and I'm like, so captivating to watch. So I've watched a bunch of them now. And I will say that it takes a couple nights to get through them because they're so long. Yeah. Three or four hours of coverage. And I pretty much start everyone when the leader's tee off.

It's just fun to like relive the whole thing. Watching last year's was oddly like electric watching it. It's so mind-bottling how out of it Sergio Garcia felt. Like on the 13th, when he hooked his tee shot into the trees on 13, had to like take an unplayable lie. a drop and he's on the wrong side of the fucking Rays Creek and he's just bogeied a couple holes. He had bogeied 10 and 11 and he was just like

oh this is the biggest Sergio Meltdown It's like he's not going to finish top 10 that's honestly what it felt like and he won the golf tournament. He won it like reliving that the other night and when he comes back he makes the par and Rose three jacked on 13 and then Sergio makes Bertie on 14 that hits the flag on

15 I was reliving it I was thinking about like Frankie Rubelli was like right there and I was just reliving it was like this was unbelievable. And then when they both barely missed their putts on 18, it was just like reliving. It was like, holy shit last year's Masters was awesome. And Tiger wasn't even in it. No. Like, none of the best guys that we're so excited about this year were even in the mix. This is precisely why I'm worried about you because I think you're going to go back every single year and do this and you're not going to get any sleep. I'm halfway through the back nine of the 2001 Masters right now. And I tweeted this out last night.

But Jim Furik is legitimately, he is still. 2001 Jim Furic or you go the other way around and say 2001 Jim Furic is literally 2018 Jim Furic. He's just frozen in time. He is identical. Everything about him. It's the same person. I believe it. His swing the way he walks, the way he moves, the way his putting routine, his face, his hair, his body. Everything about Jim Furic is identical. It's like it's fucking appalling. So we've got the masters. We're going to talk a ton of

masters on next week's show. Oh, I. And speaking of that, what you're talking about, just shout out to the Masters for putting that shit out. Like, it's been for the longest time where everyone critiques how the Masters shows when it's currently being played or, you know, all that shit. Releasing all of those rounds is a fantastic idea. They're so good now. They're so much better with the digital now. You have to be. And I'm glad they're finally embracing it.

Totally. They've been really good the last handful years. Ever since they kind of put the game, the course, into the Tiger Woods franchise. And then they started to roll out their Masters.com. website with all the videos they put on there they always do like everybody's like a lot of the stars rounds in under three minutes they do those little videos the master's app i read downloaded i'm getting into that game again i say you getting people riled up about like all right now we're in the zone where we can redownload the app we're in the zone then once the match play ends in my opinion

download the app i'm on the master's app now it's back i spend the whole subway ride on it um it's just it's just so exciting but yeah shout out to them for putting all those on there it's so cool to watch, obviously watch the 86 one with Jack. And like, it's funny, too, because a lot of those, you, you've seen all the highlights so many times, but you don't actually see the whole thing. No. And, like, the vibe. You don't get the vibe.

Yeah. Right? Like, the vibe of, like, how it takes someone two or three hours to actually, like, get back into a golf tournament. It doesn't happen in 40 seconds of, like, clips. It's, like, what they gave you is. And, like, looking at putts. And you're like, you actually, you start to realize you're like,

you're like, how did he, like, how did, I was looking at it. I was like, there's no way Justin Rose loses this tournament. Yeah. I was saying that, watching the coverage. I know what happens. I was like, there's no way to lose it. It's like possible for him to lose at this point. Yeah, provides, it gives you, like, especially for the older tournaments that maybe you

weren't even alive for, it gives you, like, context of just how crazy the Nicholas win was and shit like that, which is very, very cool. It's awesome. So shout out to them, YouTube. You can spend your next couple weeks on YouTube. That's what I'm going to do. Rider Cup 2028 back to Hazeltine. Big time USA move here.

This is a USA all the way move. Let's keep it there. You blogged it today. Let's just put them all here. Just make it the permanent. Literally, this is going to be the Augusta of American Rider Cups. Love it. By no measure of putting on a venue like the Rider Cup, does it make any sense on planet Earth to go back to Hazeltine?

They're saying that no U.S. venue has ever hosted more than one Rider Cup. I listed it today. The Europeans are going. Scotland, and then four years later, they're going France, which is this year, and then four years later going to Rome. It's like, they're going all over the world. We're just going back to Hazeltine because we won there. Because we won there. Makes sense.

I'm sure the Europeans aren't that happy because there was some controversy with the crowds, but that's how it's always going to be going forward now. But I love it. Keep it to the Midwest. It's incredibly funny. I said, too, all our guys should just take up membership at Hazeltine. Hell you. Play the course like a hundred times a year. And then every year we just do the writer cup there and be like, it's sucky.

euros like we know this course we're gonna cut the grass the right way and like it's we're gonna put pins where like we don't put them in practice rounds so only our guys know the pin locations they're kind of moving that way with this choice shout out the pGA of america great work on that by the guys great work also shout to lady golf we got the a and a inspiration yes exciting first major of the year this was the lexie thompson incident last year disaster crazy i i hadn't really realized that that was like the the sunday night of the master's week of the beginning of master's Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, I thought you were saying it was the same way.

But, yeah, right before it. Yeah. Yeah. That was a nightmare in terms of what happened with the rules and shit. That was crazy. So it's got to, she's got to win this time, right? Yeah. Isn't that how these work?

Yeah, if it's a sports movie, that's how that works. Right. So I'm going to put money on her and Danielle Kang, obviously, the Kanger. I was looking at the Times, too. The coverage for this thing is 5 to 9 p.m. on Saturday and Sunday. That's great. That is great. Like Sunday night, and it's going to be perfect.

Yep, there's nothing else going on. Well, March Madness on Saturday. it'll be done, that'll be Saturday, but then Sunday, there won't be a game until Monday night, right? They do the final. So Sunday night is going to be legitimately primetime women's major championship golf. A&A inspiration Sunday. I'm actually very excited about that. I'm like unbelievably.

You're a big lady golfing. You're the biggest lady golf ambassador that I know. Thank you, Trin. You're welcome. That's a very big compliment. It was. And I think it's true. All right.

Next up, we got our friend Hank Haney. Again, this was an absolutely. phenomenal interview. This is a guy I've been fan of for a long time, just from reading his book. You know, knowing he was really tight with Tiger, unbelievably tight with Tiger. He says in the book, the Tiger and his eight, Tiger and his agent would talk about Hank was one of Tiger's best friends, all that. So we got great insight from him. Everybody enjoy this interview.

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He's on PJ Taurus Series XM radio. The Hank Haney Show? Is that what it is, Hank? Yep, Hank Haney Golf Radio. Perfect. So you can catch him there. We're very, very excited to have you. Hank obviously got the Masters coming up.

We've got Tiger is now making the latest version of his comeback, which we'll get into. But outside of that, just wanted you give us Hank a quick update on what you're up to because you haven't been coaching Tiger for a while now. You've been kind of away from the stable scene in terms of, you know, taking on PGA Tour pros and that sort of scene. So where can people find you now? What all are you up to now? Well, every morning on Sirius XMPGA Tour Radio, I do my show from 10 to 12 Eastern Time.

And, you know, it's interesting. My career has kind of taken a full circle. I mean, you start off and you teach golf. Pretty much every golf instructor starts off the same. You teach beginners. You teach the junior clinics, the ladies clinics. And then, you know, after a while, you think to yourself, man, I wish I had somebody with some talent. And then, you know, I was fortunate enough to teach touring pros for 30 years.

And then you teach the touring pros for 30 years. And you think, man, I can't wait to have all those amateurs back. That's pretty much where I am. And, you know, now I'm back to where I started helping the, you know, average player, the more of the golf masses to play the game and enjoy the game and just help grow the game of golf. It's been great. I mean, I'm just having a great time doing it. I don't, you know, teach on the practice team anymore, you know, on a daily basis.

But, you know, having said that I did clinics for, you know, 15,000 people last year, and I've got, you know, thousands and thousands of people every day that I touch, either on Twitter or on my radio show and, you know, help people enjoy the game more. I mean, that's my main deal. Golf spent great to me. So in a way, I feel like I'm kind of giving back. back a little bit here as I'm moving on in my career. Well, it's awesome what you've done.

I do want to say that I have been for a long time now, you know, you do this thing on Twitter where you respond to people that send their swings in, whether it's kind of full swings or even pictures and whatnot. You've been doing that for a long time, and you've actually had me now. I tell people this all the time. You've had me in every apartment that I lived in because, you know, we're based on New York. I lived in Boston for a long time. Pretty tough winters.

Don't get into the course for four, five, six months sometimes. you've had me doing the 100 swings in my living room thing for like six winters straight I like it that's my favorite tip I've ever given I tell people take 100 practice swings a day your game won't prove I mean that's and it's amazing how many people have sent me messages back and they've said you know Hank I did your 100 swings a day and I played the best golf of my life last week and well I hope it worked for you too so let me ask you this because of the theory right When I first saw you tweeting about that, I started thinking, well, if I'm doing 100 swings in my apartment a day and I'm just doing the wrong shit, that's not going to help me. So how come doing 100 swings a day, no matter who you are, in theory, is supposed to be helping people?

Well, I mean, first off, there is no necessarily right or wrong. I mean, there's a lot of different ways to do things. But if you do something consistently and you do the same thing over and over again, and that's what golf is all about. I mean, even if you hit a, you know, not the prettiest shot, but you do the same thing repeatedly, you're going to get better. But it helps you by helping your balance, your range of motion, the speed of your swing, you know, it gets your golf muscles in better shape, your tempo, your rhythm, your timing. And like I said, just the overall repeatability of your swing,

there's certainly a benefit from that. And it makes you imminently more coachable, because I can't tell you how many times when, you know, I'd be teaching people. You just think, you know, their stamina, they run out of, you know, they don't realize it, but they run out of energy within, you know, 15, 20 minutes. And, you know, when you practice and take those practice swings, a lot of things, a lot of things just automatically get better. You know, it's not going to cut your handicap in half, but, you know, who knows it might.

I do. I think the stamina comment is a very good one because I do remember the Haney Project. I think it was Ray Romano when you set him up, and it was kind of a funny scene to look at it. You set him up where you tee up all the balls, and it was like hundreds of balls, and he's out there hitting, and then he cut to him after a few minutes, and he was like, I am dying trying to hit golf balls. Yeah, Ray was a character. I mean, well, I mean, that's his deal, and he was fun to help him.

I had a good time doing that show. So we just had Bubble Watson won for the second time this year down at the match play. I got a pretty simple question about Bubba, but it's basically, you know, you look at Bubba. He's a pretty skinny guy. I don't think anybody looks at him and thinks, wow, that guy is like an unbelievably powerful guy. You know, you're one of the most renowned golf instructors on planet Earth. What is it about Bubba Watson's swing or what he does with a golf club that lets him hit the ball so far? Well, I mean, first of him, he's tall, and he's got really long arms, and he's got a real long, upright swing.

So he's got a very, very big arc. And when you swing on a bigger arc, you're just inherently going to have more clubbed speed. And then the other thing is he's a good athlete. I mean, you know, some people just run faster, throw harder, you know, jump higher. I mean, that's just kind of the way it is. And he has all the above working, you know, big arc, and he's got a lot of speed. And obviously he's got good hands because he can really control the club base and hit all these different shots.

I'm a big Bubba Watson fan. I mean, you know, he's one of those guys that, for me, it's easy to cheer for. You know, he gets a little, he gets a little ornery on the golf course sometimes, but when you kind of get past that a little bit, he's what you call a really good guy. And he's, you know, he does a lot of nice things for a lot of people. It's fun for me to see him do good, you know, and I'm happy that he's kind of, you know, he was locked for a while and just playing awful. and had some health problems last year,

but boy, he's back now. He's won two tournaments this year. He won at Riviera, and then he won yesterday. And, I mean, he's, you know, he looks like he's marching into the Hall of Fame. And who would have thought that, you know, Bubba Watson would make the Hall of Fame? Yeah, we've definitely been critical of Bubba here on the show,

especially like you mentioned, some of the things he does on the course. But we have always said that he is maybe the single most fun player to watch, especially since they emmlemented the pro tracer, you get to actually see what they've been preaching for such a long time. He does some stuff, but, I mean, he always owns up to it. You know, sometimes he just had a lot of time controlling himself. You know, and he gets on his caddy, Ted Scott.

But Ted Scott's like a, you know, really, I mean, those guys are like best friends. I mean, he gets it. He understands blah, blah. You know, he's different. I mean, I'm not going to deny that. But when it's all said and done, he's, he's, he's. is a good guy. Good. Well, I like to hear that.

That's very good to hear. Because like I said, we all have been in agreement on one side, so it's good to see the other side. It's good to hear that people have a lot of good things to say about Bubba. And like you said, he's obviously playing fantastic. He's going to the Masters as one of the favorites. I want to ask you another question about a pro's swing. Ian Polter, also did well this past weekend.

Why or what is it about his swing, whether it's mechanical or? or something that you know that we don't. Why is he in Bolter scene to be more prone to shanks than other players on tour? Oh, man, he can't he can't shank him? Oh, he can shank him with the best of them? Some of the great shanks of us. It's fantastic. You know, shank you very much.

I mean, he's got some of those. And the 16th hole at TPC Scottsdale, you know, waste management, Phoenix Open. What a spot to shank one. We were actually, we were there. We were down there at the tournament, and I don't know if they showed it on TV, but a fan found the ball or caught the ball and ended up throwing it back onto the course. So it was a scene.

That was one of the better shanks he's ever had. He's had a few. But that's got to top of them all to shank them on that hole. If any hole to shank. That's not the right one. Good question. I mean, if I was him, I'd fix that. I always talk about having the big miss.

You got to avoid the big miss. That is a big miss. That is a big miss. miss. That's a serious big mess. But what happens is his body moves in closer to the ball during his swing. And, you know, when it moves in, he takes his space away and then his arms just reach out a little bit, and it doesn't take much. When you look at some of the irons that the pros use, they're not quite as big as what the amateurs used. So there's less space from the center of the club to the heel. And, you know, he can get on that heel, and he gets on there a little bit too much, and he's got a shank.

It's not good. I mean, you know, it's got to be in the back of his mind. You've got to think, I mean, too, hey, when's my shank coming? It's got to be. Oh, man. It just absolutely has to be in there. So I want to ask a little bit about just practicing in general. I feel like a lot of golfers, even myself included, you know, if I'm going to the range,

and I finally get, which, you know, again, we live in New York City. is very rare, but you get a chance to go out for a day and spend, you know, I don't know, two or three hours at a practice facility. I kind of have no idea what actually, you know, hard work or hard, good, hard practice of golf actually looks like. So my question is sort of, you know, what percentage of time should players be putting into each part of their game when they're practicing and sort of if you could break that down a little bit to help people understand it?

I like what you got going here. You got everything, everything's geared towards helping. your game get a little better here on all these questions i mean that's why we're having you on we need if improve our games more than anything else you knew the average game hank of us and some of the people listening to this show most of the people listen to this show you would understand no i know they're not you know what hey most people are you know nobody needs to apologize for how bad they are because most people aren't very good i mean it's a hard game but but here's the thing i tell people divide your practice into third one third short game one third uh full swing and

one-third putting. And then you divide that into thirds as well. So with the full swing, you go one-third with your T-balls, okay, driver, three-wood off of a T, one-third with your longer club, you know, fairway woods, irons, hybrids, and then one-third with your wedges. And then when you go to the short game, divide that into thirds, one-third chipping, one-third pitching, one-third with the sand-shots, and then putting the same thing. Buy that into thirds, one-third with your long putts, one-third with your short puttut, whatever range you start missing at, whether it's two, three, four feet, whatever range where you have a little trouble and you'll miss occasionally.

And then one third with more of a makeable pot, more of a, say, you know, eight to 15 foot range. And that, if you divide your practice up like that, you know, that would be an efficient use of your time. Now, if you're going to, you know, practice, you know, an hour, you know, in a day, maybe, you know, today you do all full swing, but, you know, you come back and get an hour on. short game, you know, some other day.

But that's how I would divide it up. That's how the pros would divide it up. I mean, if you practice a lot, you can divide it up like that on a daily basis. If they don't practice much, you could divide it up on a, you know, weekly or, you know, bi-monthly basis, something like that. That's a good way to divide your practice time, though. I think it's interesting. I think most people find it interesting that, you know, you'd say a third of your practice

should be divided up just putting because I feel like a lot of, you know, amateur or golfers don't put anywhere near that that amount of time into practicing. No, they don't. They don't. But, I mean, everybody knows they could get better with their scores if they practice their short game and their putting. But, you know, I don't criticize people for just wanting to have fun. I mean, some people just like to hit balls,

and they just like to get out there and pound them. And, you know, I mean, hey, as long as they're having a good time, and that's, you know, fine with me. But if you really want to improve your game and your handicap, you want to shoot better scores, you got to practice your short game third of the time you're putting a third of time and then full swing

a third of time. But most of the time what happens is it's like everybody's out there trying to put out the biggest fire. You know, it's not like there's no fire prevention. It's all firefighting. So whatever you got the biggest fire, like for instance if you're Ian Polter, I would put

out the shank fire first. Yes, yes. I wouldn't be out there working on my putting. I'd be out there making sure I didn't shank first and then move on from there. I think that's a really good point. I do, yeah, you know, if I ever go to the, if I'm going to go to the range, I'm thinking about the single worst couple of shots because you,

they're pretty similar that I hit the last time I played, and I'm like, how can I not do that, basically? Yeah. Well, that's not a bad way to do it because to play better golf, you got to fix your big miss. That's the, there's three things you have to do to play golf. Real simple. Three things.

I talk about these same three things all the time. You've got to eliminate penalty shots. You've got to eliminate what I call two chips, two chips, two pitches, two sand shots. Whenever you get in close proximity to the green, you have to get the ball in the green in one shot, and then you have to eliminate three puts. If you do those three things, your scores come down so fast. And I tell people all the time, when you get done with your round of golf, add up your penalty shots, your two chips, and your three puts,

and you can subtract that from your score, or coulda woulda shoulda. You know, everybody plays that game. Coulda would have shoulda. But it gives you an idea what your potential was. So does Charles Barkley have the worst golf swing on planet Earth? Probably, yeah, without it. I mean, I've seen some pretty bad ones, to be honest with you.

But when it was great because when Charles was on my show, the Haney Project on the golf challenge, we started out with a little interview at first. We were at a restaurant in Philadelphia. We did a little interview. and Charles said to me, he said, Hank, the golf channel says, I have the worst swing in the world. And then he sat there for like 30 seconds, and he didn't say, and they looked to me, he goes, he said, but how could they have seen everyone in the world?

And I said, that's a good point, Charles. There might be somebody else out there, but. His is the worst public swing that is out there. Well, I mean, nobody else has had 10 million people go on YouTube. to look at their swing. I could tell you that much. I mean, it's not good. But one of my favorite people in the world, I'll tell you what, he's the best.

And, I mean, he talked about, you know, he said I didn't want to be a role model, but he is a role model for how every celebrity and sports personality and entertainer should act and treat people. I mean, he's the best. I mean, he says hello to everybody, takes pictures with everybody, he looks every little kid in the eye and tells him do good in school. I mean, he's my man. I love that guy.

Yeah, he comes off as just an awesome guy. And he does it all with, he's also, you know, when he is on TV as an analyst one night. He's a pretty candid guy. So it doesn't feel like he's not like pulling any. Punchers are coming off as, you know, disingenue or anything. He just seems like an awesome guy. Oh, there's no sugar-coating with him. No, which is great.

All right, let's get into a little Tiger Woods. As I mentioned, Hank wrote The Big Miss, which if you're a golf fan at all, especially if you're a Tiger Woods fan. Hank, we've very, very, very openly been Tiger Woods fan boys on this very show for a long time now. I've probably read The Big Miss No joke, a good 10 times. I go back and read. I think it's the highest mountain is the chapter about the 08 U.S. Open. I've read that a million times.

Unbelievable. It's so good. So we've got Tiger. You know, the buzz is back. He had the back-to-back top 10. finishes he was was in the mix everybody's calling this a much a much different comeback the vibe is different he looks different are you buying into the the latest version of the tiger come back oh absolutely i mean i i as soon as i saw his swing in october yet he posted on twitter i said you know

he can he he can win with this swing i thought you know he's looking a lot better and he's, you know, got to the club in better positions where, you know, hopefully not going to miss it as bad. And I just said, you know, he can win with that swing. And he'll win. He'll win again. He'll win, you know, another major. I don't know how many, but he'll win another major. It'll win more tournaments.

He's still Tiger Woods. He still knows how to do it. You know, he's already shown that in just these few terms he's played in and forgot. He hasn't played in a couple years. And he's already right there in the mix. And plus he's just a, you know, I feel like he's in a lot better place. I mean, when you look at him, and this is a thing a lot of people, you know, don't really talk about. I mean, you know, he had a big problem.

You know, you get arrested, you know, one night and you got five different drugs in your system. I mean, you're not just having a bad night. I mean, you got a problem. And he's in a much better place. I mean, just look at him. He looks happier. He's definitely excited to play golf, which, you know, he didn't look like. like that for a long time. I mean, just his eyes look better. His face looks better. I mean,

I don't think there's any doubt that he's going to play good guys. He's already playing good golf. I mean, he's worked his way up. I mean, you know, he's something in the world. And he was, you know, like wasn't even on the map here a couple months ago. And he'll win before the years out. I don't know where. I don't know about Augusta. I mean, they got him as a favorite at Augusta. That's stretching it a little bit to me. But, you know, who knows? He could. I mean, it's not a big field, and it's not a deep field in terms of the players who can win there. But, you know, time flies. Tiger hasn't won at Augusta since 2005.

And people kind of forget that. But I like what he's doing. I really do it. I'm very optimistic about how he's going to do. Yeah. So Tiger hasn't won at Augusta, like you mentioned, since 2005. A lot of people have talked about, you know, some of the changes that they've made to the course. and, you know, putting trees in certain places to essentially, in a lot of ways, restricts him from being able to play, you know, a lot of shots that you talk about in your book, especially a lot of the bailout where he just, he'd way rather spin one softly right than, you know, yank one or hook one left.

And Augusta, you know, they made that much more difficult on a lot of holes missing, right? You're kind of in jail, et cetera, et cetera. So how much stock do you put into the fact that, you know, Augusta and the tweaks that they've made since the last time that he won are sort of a big part of the reason that he hasn't been able to break through it when there? I mean, I put a lot of stock in it. I mean, you look at just a few holes. You know, he used to bail straight right on number 11, and you could play from over there. He'd bail straight right on 17. You could play from over there. Both those two holes now.

I mean, he hit it straight right there. You're just absolutely dead. The seventh hole, you know, used to be not much to it. You could play around that with a miss too, but now you can't. You've got to put it in the fairway. I mean, it's a golf course where you absolutely have to drive the golf ball. And I think that's a bit of an issue. You know, I mean, it has been for Tiger for sure.

And there's a couple holes that just, you know, they're big holes, and they kind of spook him a little bit. He struggles to drive the ball off of number two. I mean, he's scared of death that creek down there, so he ends up blocking it to the right a lot. You know, number nine is a hole that's giving him some problems. We're, you know, trying to drive around the corner there. You get caught up in those trees. That's a tough one. You know, I mentioned 11.

Number 13, he plays pretty safe there with a three wood. A lot of the guys, you know, bubble hit driver down there and have a, you know, a nine iron or wedge in there. Roy McRoy will bomb it down on. All these guys do. Tiger hits it back there and kind of late. he's back with a three wood. I think it's got a lot to do with it.

And he hasn't putted well enough there. He's three putted too much. Now, I still think he's a great putter, but he's three putted at Augusta too much to win. You can't win these tournaments and these major championships doing two things. One, you can't take penalty strokes, and you can't, and there's a bunch of them out there, you know, at Augusta. I mean, you can hit it in the water on 12.

You get water out 11, 13, you know, number two, I mentioned. I mean, there's penalty strokes out there and then three putts. And those are the two main things. And he hasn't been able to stay away from both of those, you know, for a long time. So I'm curious, you know, you talk a lot about, you know, these types of problems with Tiger's game. And clearly he must, he is and must have always been aware of him. He's, you know, maybe the most aware of his own game player that we've had. ever seen. So how much would you guys even, you know, when, when you were with them, would you,

would you guys talk about, openly talk about, you know, these types of issues or the problems that Tiger has with certain shots? And then, you know, how would you work on and try to, try to make sure that, that, hey, we're ready, you know, how much time do you need to be ready? How does that process work in terms of identifying, knowing that we've got issues at this golf course and if we're going to win, we got to do kind of X, Y, and Z to get over it? well you i mean we would always practice i mean on an ongoing basis but it really extensively the week before the major and you know it just i would just kind of in my mind know what my comfort level was was like based on how he was hitting it in practice and you know it would only all boil down

to a couple holes really we you know he'd play at ioward down orlando and there were certain holes at our that he would, you know, traditionally or historically or, you know, daily, like, struggle with. And, you know, one of them was number three, you know, I mean, we play the whole front nine, and I just was anticipating what his T-shot would be like on number three and number seven and number eight, because all the other holes, he always hit it perfect. So it was just those three holes, I just want to see, okay, what's his T-shot going to be like on these? And if he struggled on those holes, you know, then it was a little tougher to, to be confident. You know, I didn't have to really bring it up.

I mean, he knew it. He knew where his misses were. He knew what holes would give him problems. And he's no different than anybody else. You know, you play and you have certain holes that just drive you crazy. Certain holes, you just hit bad shots on it seemingly every time. You know, in other holes, you just always hit a good shot on. And they just look right to you.

And, you know, you don't have a problem. You know, that's one thing about golf. And it's not really any different. whether you're the best player in the world or the worst. You have certain shots. You just don't like. But the woods have been a problem. He's played around it a little bit so far this year.

That's why I'm not super confident about Augusta. I get that he knows how to play the course, but I hear people talk about it. Tiger knows how to play the course. I can tell you how to play the course, but you can't play with irons at this course. You've got to play with woods. there's no iron it off the tea at Augusta.

You have to hit Woods. You can hit some three woods, but you've got to hit Woods. And, you know, he hasn't been able to do that very well. I mean, he had seven penalty shots at Bay Hill. I mean, that's not going to get it. You can't win a golf tournament taking seven penalty shots. You know, he's got to be able to hit his driver, and he's got to be able to keep it in play,

and he's got to avoid penalty shots. You add up your penalty shots and your two chips and your three putts, And when that total of those three added together, you know, starts to get north of two, it's going to be tough to fit in a win nowadays on the PGA tour. It's just the way the facts are. Now, it's kind of like turnovers in football. I mean, you turn the ball over three times, you're probably going to lose. And it's just pretty much that way in golf when you add up those mistakes that I just talked about.

Yeah, so we're now, you know, we're just a little over a week. I guess we're about 10 days out from the start of the Masters. What does Tiger, you know, what do his, what do his days look like right now? My brain, I have him where he's just like this robot who the only thing that he could spit out if you talk to him would be Augusta National and, you know, golf swing. And he would just be so unbelievably in the zone that he's basically, you know, a one-focused human being. What, you know, what does he like? What does his, what does days look like right now getting ready for Augusta?

Well, I mean, you know, when I was with him, his days were extensive. I mean, there were, you know, workout in the morning at, you know, 6 o'clock in the morning. And then, you know, he wouldn't finish till 6 at night. I mean, it'd be a 12-hour day with working out and practice and short game and playing. You know, he likes to play, he likes to play, you know, 18 holes a day and practice. Now, I don't know what it is now because, you know, I'm not with him. And he's got, you know, he's got this back issue that he, you know, he can only hit so many balls. But I'm sure he's, I'm sure he's focused.

I'm sure he's, you know, his comfort level is going to be based on can he hit his driver. Because he can kid himself all he wants. But if he gets there and he starts hitting these wild drives, then it's just going to be luck. And it's going to be hopefully he hits a wild drive on a hole that he can get away with it. And there's not as many there now at Augusta. But if he can get away with it, you know, then he could be all right. But if he hits that wild drive in the wrong hole and it costs him a pennsy, shot, you know, then it becomes a really hard fit with trying to win the tournament.

But he practiced hard. I mean, you know, some of his practice was a little exaggerated. I mean, it's not like he's, you know, it's not like other guys don't practice hard to, you know. I mean, I wouldn't say that, you know, Tiger practiced any harder than a lot of guys did. But certainly he put in his time. There's no doubt about that. So one thing, I'd say maybe the biggest. the biggest sort of teaser, if you will,

from your book, something that we never unfortunately got was you talked about how you guys have developed this driver-stinger shot that you wished or you wanted Tiger to put into play and he never did. You know, why do you think the world got robbed

to see a tiger hit some driver stingers out there, Hank? You've researched this. I like it. Oh, yeah. You know, well, I mean, that's a shot that he feels comfortable with. You've seen him playing it this year with the iron. He used to play it with the three wood.

He hasn't played it as much with the three wood. But when I was with him, he'd play it with the iron, and he played with the three wood. And then, you know, in practice, he'd even hit it with the driver. And he was so good at it. But it was just tough to get him to try it on the golf course and to trust it. And he didn't quite have it done. But he had it great with the three wood and great with the long iron.

And that was a valuable shot. When he felt nervous, he didn't, you know, he didn't feel good on a certain hole, he would hit that shot. And he could put it in play. And everybody needs that kind of shot. Now it seems like Tiger wants to rely on a cut shot. And sometimes he sets up for that cut, and it doesn't cut. He gets a pull.

And all of a sudden he's out of play. But more than anything, it was just if you don't feel comfortable on a certain hole, and he's Tiger Woods. All he's got to do. is find his ball. I mean, if he can find his ball, he can play. I mean, he can figure out a way to make a par. But he can't play from out of bounds,

and he can't play from the bottom of a lake. You just can't do it. And, you know, he can't play from deep in the woods either. You know, when you got no way to get out, then you're kind of sunk. So, I mean, that was the whole purpose of hitting that stinger shot. And he played it well. I was glad to see it come back a little bit.

I'd like to see him play it a little more, though. Yeah, it is really cool to see, and it's been fun watching and play some of these courses where they're tight, but like you mentioned, you can kind of get away with, I guess, you know, not having to hit the longer clubs, the driver, even the three would too much, but at least he is hitting the little two-iron stinger well. I just want another thing on Tiger.

I'm curious because you would talk about in the book how you would kind of, you would almost phrase it like I gave him this swing, I think it was the 2010 Masters, which you sort of opened the book with, and you talk about how, you know, you kind of, you had a lot of revelations at the time about your guy's relationship. And I'm curious, like, just on kind of a, just thinking about it from an outsider's viewpoint, I feel like it would just take, I mean,

you must have an unbelievable amount of confidence in your knowledge of the swing and of Tiger's game to say, like, hey, buddy, this is the swing that you need to go with this week, and trust me. Well, I mean, I think everybody feels like that. Everybody that coaches, you know, every coach thinks he can fix everybody. Every coach he thinks he can get every team to win. Every coach thinks he's going to call the right play. I mean, you know, that's just kind of the way it goes.

I mean, but, you know, like Bill Parcell has always said, you are where your record says you are. And, you know, when I was fortunate enough to help Tiger, he had a good record. I mean, when, you know, the last three years, he won 51% of his PJ tour events. You know, that's something that's never been done before. So, you know, I mean, most of the time, he was ready to play. And, you know, that's something that when I look back on it, I mean, I'm very proud of that. And proud of the record that Tiger had.

But, you know, everybody feels the same way that coaches. They all think, oh, I can, you know, I could fix this guy. I could fix that guy. I could get this team to win. and sometimes they can, sometimes they can't. So now Tiger's obviously, he's gone alone. How confident are you and Tiger being able to kind of be out there on his own without a swing coach?

I like it. I like where he is. I like what he's doing. I like his swing. I like how he's working on his game. I like what he looks like on the golf course. I mean, I feel like he's gone back to, you know, some of the things that have been successful for him in the past.

I mean, obviously, I think his swing looks more like it did when I taught him, and I think, you know, that's probably one of the reasons I like what he's doing. But I really, really am optimistic about how he's going to do. I think he's going to do pretty darn good. Now, you know, he's got to be able to hit this driver in play. That's it. You know, fairway, you don't have to hit fairways. Everybody's hit in a fair way.

You don't have to hit fairway. You just have to keep the ball in play and hit a few good ones and keep the ball on play, and he could get around and win these golf tournaments. If he can do that, then he'll win a lot. If he still struggles with that, which he struggled with a little bit here, then he's going to have to get on certain courses where he can, like you said, he can play around it a little bit, and he can, you know, hit some irons where, you know, everybody else is hitting woods.

But, you know, he can get away with it and still make a par and pick his spots and hit enough good ones that he can, you know, still get himself to a certain number. I think it creates a little different formula for winning, and it's a tighter fit where you can't afford as many mistakes and still win. But I'm still optimistic that he's going to be right there. I don't buy this deal that all these guys are so good now, and it's so hard to win now.

And, you know, I just don't buy it. You know, I'm sorry. I mean, they can sell it. They're selling it hard, but they're not selling me. I remember the greatness that has been Tiger Woods, and I feel like when he's at the President's Cup or the Ryder Cup,

and he's riding around in that cart being the assistant captain, I think he's thinking to himself, I mean, I can beat every one of these guys. I think that's what he's thinking. We're going to have to clip the last three minutes of that and just get it to Tiger somehow. That would fire Tiger up for sure. He can still do it.

I couldn't promise you that. I love, yeah, see, it's great to hear that from someone that, again, knew him, knew him so well for such a long time, because we sit here and we preach that all time, we're like, yeah, this whole, like, they're all, I'm sure they are buddy, buddy, but this whole, like, yeah, you know, we'll all just go out and, like, play together, and compete against each other. It's like, bullshit. Tiger, he comes back, and he's got his A game. I think he's going to be destroyed people out there.

You know, I mean, he's 42, like Charles Barber. always says father time's undefeated but um i don't think he's done yet as long as his back holds up and it looks like it's holding up good i mean his club at speed is way up there he's swinging fast he's got the power uh he still can put he's got all the experience in the world much more than anybody else uh i i still i still feel like he's got wins ahead up i don't you know i don't know about nicholas's record that's that's that's probably a little too far away uh but But, you know, he'll win some more for sure. Well, it'll be really fun to watch, obviously,

and even just one more, I think, would be. We'd go down as just such a memorable with the comeback and how long it's been and all that. It'd be really cool to see. Last day I want to ask you, our really good friend, Kevin Kisner, finished second this past weekend at the match play. What do you like about Kiz's chances going forward, getting some more wins on tour, having a good couple years?

Tell you what, he's a good player. I mean, you know, you can't argue at how he's spread. I mean, he's 25th rated in the world. I mean, that's not too bad. He's a good ball striker. He's a little one to make so. I mean, it's easier for him to draw it than it is to fade it. But, you know, having said that I like that ball shape.

So I like his game a lot. He seems like he's got a great personality and a great guy. You know, whenever I see him, you know, in contention, I feel like, you know, he's got a shot. You know, the match, he didn't have a good final day, but, I mean, that's a long, grueling deal. It's still, you know, nothing to be ashamed of, getting all the way to the end like he did. I like him.

I like him. I like his chances to make the Ryder Cup team this year. I think that would be pretty cool, and I think he'd be a good guy to have on there because he seems like a real good teammate for everybody as well as, you know, a good player. Yeah, I'll talk to him, make sure. I'm going to tell kids we've got to work on cutting the ball a little bit, and it will be good to go, pal. But Hank Caney, like I said, I could quiz you for hours on everything

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Just head to Facebook.com. slash groups slash barstool podcast. That's Facebook.com slash groups slash barstool podcast. All you have to do is say this podcast sent you join right now. Got to love talking to Hank Haney there, a big Trent, Daddy. It was. He's a very cool guy, very informative, obviously I've been through a lot. He, I mean, he thinks that you wrote his book.

He doesn't think that he wrote it. He thinks you wrote it. You knew so much about it. No, Joe. I said after we finished up, I said to Trent and Sunshine that I could, could have, I could have grilled him about the book for five hours. You told me, when we knew we were doing the interview, we had about a half an hour, maybe a little bit more before he was going to call in.

And you sat down to do some prep, and you just stood right back up and we're like, I don't need to do that. Literally. I sat down for maybe 30 seconds, and I started looking at stuff. And I was like, I know more than this website is telling me right now. It showed. He was cool. He was a good guest to have.

I mean, we wanted to have him on for a long time, so he was cool. He was awesome. Really awesome. We were texting him afterwards. He's very appreciative. You know, he said anytime. so we'll definitely have Hank back on at some point. A lot of positive things he had to say about a lot of different people,

especially Tiger going forward. Hank Hanney's an awesome follow on Twitter. He really, really honestly comes off as a genuine dude who likes to just help people. Yeah, that was the cool. That was the part that came through to me too. There's obviously interesting stuff about Tiger and Polter and Bubba, but he kept saying, I just want to make the game more enjoyable for people. And it does seem that way on social media too.

He does. He does that thing that I mentioned in the interview where he quote tweets and responds to people's swings. all the time. And it's actually really cool to kind of look at somebody's swing and kind of stack up in your brain what you think of the swing. And then what, like, one of the great golf coaches, you know, on earth says about the swing and his advice and things like that. I'm not even sure he realizes how cool that is. It's like for him to be breaking down a guy of his stature to be breaking down normal people's swings. A random dude at the range of four play, platron range swing. It's very cool. He does sometimes, too, he roast people, which is great. He got to do that.

He just roast people. So Hank's great. Again, big thanks to him for jumping on with us, clowns and talking to us. It was great. I also want to say that on next week's show, we've got a bunch of From the Galleries to get to. We're going to have a very special edition of the show next week with the Masters. We're going to have probably pretty damn long show next week, Trenton. Yeah, for sure.

But we'll have Frankie Brearley, the Pizza Maker, back on. We're going to have a great show next week. We are a week away from Masters week. It's a very exciting time. this was a great show next we're just going to be a great show golf is back it's I mean

again it's so back golf is just unbelievably back that's all I got again I'm excited things are good I'm trying to kind of contain my excitement almost a little bit

it's like the calm it's serious calm before what I think about it is like you know people always debate when's the best time to start listening in Christmas music

yep that's how I feel about master's excited yeah you don't you don't want to start like too earlier you get burned out on it yeah but so if you can contain yourself

I think you're being smart about it. If you can just wait and then it's even better once you finally unleash your excitement. I agree. That's good point. Just keep it down a little bit. It's also those three days that Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday go by so slowly of Masters week that if you just add more days to that, it's crazy time. I actually hate, I've seen some promotion for the Masters where they say Masters is only a week away and they're counting it as the Monday. It's like, don't do that. No. Don't do that. Thursday morning is when this shit starts. Don't start tempting us with week away. It's an exciting time. Everybody just stay calm. Get excited, but stay

Just stay calm, chill out. We'll be back next week.