Fore Play - Are Golf Video Games Back!? And What’s The Most Eye-Popping Golf Course You’ve Ever Seen?

Episode Date: May 7, 2020

Code red, golf video games are back. Maybe. A “PGA Tour 2K21” teaser has launched out of the clouds, and we’re here to debate what this game could or couldn’t be. Will it live up to the Tiger games? Can it? What does it need? Will it have Tiger, other places, great courses? We also react to the confirmation of the Rory, DJ, Rickie, Matt Wolff event at Seminole, then take some From The Galleries including: history aside, what’s the most purely eye-popping golf course you’ve ever seen, and would you rather play a top-25 course with 3 stiffs or your local dog track with your 3 best buddies???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Barstool 15. Owensmixtures.com. Thank you to Owens. Okay. Let's get into some golf. We've got a lot to get to. Let's start actually with the video game. So this teaser just hit, you know, obviously you guys are listening to the show here on Thursday.

We're recording midday Wednesday. This little teaser for PGA Tour 2K21, 2K21 teaser just launched. It's like 17 seconds long, but it's got the golf Twitter golf world by storm. We've talked forever about how it's. It's an atrocity that the Tiger Woods video game series ended, that it doesn't exist, especially the fact that Tiger Woods, boss man, is the current fucking Masters champ. And they don't have a video game for this guy is outrageous. We've got a new golf video game.

First thoughts and impressions. Did anybody know this was coming? No. It seems like it came out of left field. I'm not as into video games as I used to be like 10 years ago, so I'm not keeping tabs on it. But to me, this just came out of absolutely nowhere and got me very excited. So a couple things here, a couple things here. So number one, I just dove back into the player, the golf club 2019.

I was playing the other day. That game is outrageous in the fact that, well, number one, it doesn't have any licensed players. It just has TPC golf courses. So you got like TPC like Scottsdale, TPC, Sawgrass, all this stuff. It's like the only things they got rights to. And they got like rights to like a couple of like, you can like play in like the corn fairy tour and whatever, stuff like that.

And then you can play a couple tournaments in the PGA tour. They got like somewhat licensed by the PGA tour. So now what I'm 90% sure happen is that they got some funding and bought out completely by 2K. So there's not going to be a golf club 2020. It's going to be it's going to be 2K21, whatever this new one's going to be. So basically they're taking that game and putting the 2K logo on it. And I'm assuming added a lot more funding into it to make the game better. hopefully got licensing for like more golf courses and for more PGA tour sponsored stuff.

Like hopefully you can actually have a player in there like Rory Mac, Roy, Tiger Woods and stuff like that. Am I hopeful that that's going to happen? No, I actually don't think a lot of those guys are going to be on because I don't know if they're going to be signed on with the players association like they do for like NHL, MLB and all the other stuff.

Oh, and like in their little promo. I mean, it's a white guy in a red shirt and black pants on the T on 17 at Sawgrass. Like, about five inches. What are they trying to pull here with that? Who is this white guy? If there was any time to be like Tiger Woods is in this golf game,

it was right then and there. It was there. They had the outfit. They had everything. It's just that can't be the guy. It can't be the guy. Also, I believe the 17th of Saldgrass right now is currently closed.

It's under renovation. So like the whole thing is pretty funny. But I'm hopeful. I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be a mix. It's not going to be as good as Tiger Woods, like with the names and everybody in it. and but it's going to be more notable than you know but if it has no names in it then it's the biggest

flop of all time yeah because like the golf club 2019 has been out for like two years now and at that point like it's the same game like don't just throw 2k on it and like make me jerk my dick while i watch your trailer like i mean and also they show tPC which is one of their their their courses they already had licensing to so like they showed me nothing different they didn't show a player and they didn't show a different golf course the only thing they showed was like the players on the flag, which I don't think they've ever had rights to prior to. I don't know if you could play the players. Yeah.

I noticed that too. I was like, so, you know, we've talked about the golf club and we had the whole thing where we went over to your apartment one night, Frankie, and like me and Lurge played against you guys. And we got killed. That game is impossible. And one thing that was super frustrating about it is like, everyone's like, yeah, but it's super realistic.

Okay, but like, it's realistic in the wrong ways. Like, that'd be like if, um, NHL, if you're playing, shell and it's realistic in that like you can't stick handle and you skate fucking uh one mile an hour and fall half the time like oh no that's what you're like as a hockey player like no that's not the game the game is like i'm uh sidney crosby and i just toe drag this guy i went top cheddar and it was fucking awesome that's like the game and that's what tiger woods was i could hit it down the middle the fairway 370 i could hit a wedge close i could hit that little hammer the a button and spin it in any direction that i wanted to and it was a blast and so there was the the whole golf club

thing was too, too much one direction. It was like, all the golf hardos loved it of like, well, you got to attack the ball from the inside and get your swing play. I'm like, what are you talking about? I have a joystick. It's a video game. Like, I'm just trying to, I'm trying to shoot 47 and 18 holes at Pebble Beach like I did back in fucking 2007 or whatever.

That's what I'm trying to do. So they got to figure that shit out. 100%. That's, you actually bring up what I was going to talk about was, I blogged it, and I said the last Tiger Woods game that I really genuinely loved was 2007. And it was what you're saying. it was easier. You hit it right down the middle.

Pudding wasn't as hard as it got to be in the later years. I think I play Rory, the Rory game, once or twice, and it was just way too hard for me. Like, don't make it so realistic where I get frustrated where if I push the joystick a little bit to the right, it just fucking flies to the right. Like, that's not why I play a golf video game. I play a golf video game like 2007 over and over and over again because the level of difficulty isn't that bad and it's more accessible to a guy who just wants to relax, sit on the couch and just play a golf video game

as opposed to wanting to break my controller over and over and over again every time I play. Okay, but there's multiple versions. Tony Hawk got that right. Like Tony Hawk made up. 100%. That's where that game took off because I feel like video games before that were too realistic. And then you could do Tony Hawk.

You could, I mean, you could do anything you wanted on a skateboard. I can't even go down like a ramp or else I break my neck. You could do a grind for like 13 minutes. Exactly. Exactly. It was so funny. That game is probably best-seller. while doing a backflip.

Like, that's what I want to do. It was awesome. There's multiple versions of gamers, though, right? Like, people love the fact that you can go in there and, like, get really good at a game that no one else can. Like, that's a pretty big majority of people. Make it real settings, fake setting. And I want to, like, if they want to, like, reach the masses, masses, then obviously you make it the way the Tiger Woods video game in 07 was, where it's just like you hit a button and you can play. You can play it with your dad.

You can play with your little cousin. Anyone can play it. But, like, the more advanced these games are getting with graphics and, like, the ability to be able to use certain things on the control it or make guys like you can hit flop shots you can hit chip shots you can hit punch shots like that stuff is also awesome like I played the other day and you can make your own golf course I was telling lurch this the other day that um like if you go on the golf club if you go on the golf club video game and you just search like a golf course someone has made it so like I searched no joke I searched Eisenhower red course which is the course I grew up on the public course I knew my dad

grew up on and they someone made it to the point where it looked just like you it like I'm talking there's a smoke stack at like a power plant that's beyond like the it's like beyond like the fifth hole and they put the smoke stack there there's like a red there's a red little hut in between like eight and nine the red hut is there in between eight and nine the water is exactly where it is at the eyes and now red they have the same undulation in the in the in the greens like literally there's the brakes are exactly the same on the on the second hole of par three the whole green goes up and then to the left and the pins always on the left they did that. So I hit it on the right side and I had to get it up the sill. It came back at me.

They have Tobacco Road, the fifth hole, perfectly built. So like if you, if you, they have Cabot on there too. Cabot, everything. So like, that is awesome to be able to play that. It's unlicensed stuff and like people go in and I've tried to make a golf course in there. It's so much fun, but also impossible. Yeah, I have a buddy who's been making a Skokie Country Club or we always do like that Skokie challenge I always tell you guys about, which is old Donna Ross course, like north of Chicago. And he's been all quarantine. He's been just, it takes him like a week per hole to get it right.

Yeah. But now he just keeps sending me screenshots and pictures. And it is perfect. Like the first one he sent me, it was like a flyover of the first hole. And I was like, yeah, that tree on the right is a little bit too big. And he was like, that's exactly what I was thinking. And like went in over the next hour and like made that tree perfect. But that's, that should be a component of it because the biggest complaint about the Rory game was there were like eight courses where the whole point of like,

The best part is once you get the gameplay right, then how thrilling is it when you can just go play 40 different, 50 different awesome golf courses? You could go from like San Andrews to Bethpage Black to Pebble Beach. You can even like throw in the name to add at Augusta in like 2012. It was like, holy shit, we can play Augusta National. Like having all of those courses is huge. And as long as the technology is good enough that people can get it like very close to what it's like, that's fine. Like that's plenty fine. I'm not going to notice the little differences,

but it sounds like if you really work at it and you're that committed to it, you can make it perfect. So that has to be an element to it, but they just got to get the game play right because the golf club 2019, like the minute I picked up the Tiger Woods games, I was obsessed and hooked and I wanted to play it all the time.

The minute I picked up TGC, or as the fucking cool kids call it, like Trent said, I want to slam my control and break it and never turn my Xbox back. At least give me the option for it to be not impossible. Like that's all I care about. If you guys want it, if you guys want it to play, like you're actually out there playing golf and it's the most frustrating thing in the world, go ahead. But if I want to go out there and I have a 150 foot put and I sort of hit it in the right spot and then it goes drain a window into the hole, I want that option as well.

That's all I'm saying. I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. Make it accessible. It's exciting. It's an exciting time. I guess it's May 14th that they're going to have all details are released. So we'll learn a lot more.

I think Frankie probably nailed it right out of the gate that it's a combo of. They got more funding. They're able to accomplish some licensing. They're going to have players in the game. I'd be surprised if they have Tiger Woods in the game. I think Tiger came with a giant fee. And they were like, well, then we just can't do literally anything else. If we're just paying for you to be in the game, which is fine.

He's the boss man. And they got to get the gameplay right because, like we said, like the fact that it was better, like the golf video games were better and more fun to play 15 years ago is like that just can't be acceptable. They're not allowed to like make this much. hype and not include players in it because then it's just I know that like I said before it's just another golf club 2021 and like there's no hype around that at all so you're not allowed to burn the internet on fire being like we finally have a golf game like well guys there's been a golf game for the last three or four years you guys don't care about it and this may be the same thing you guys haven't cared about for the last three or four years it may be the same game

so if they're lying to us they need to be burned at the stake like if I can't play with Rory McElroy and if I can't like go in there like play with like cool players and like rip around these golf courses. I'm not going to, I'm not going to be happy. I'm going to be actually mad. Like, don't get us hyped up. I've been waiting for this for years.

I said one of the worst. I've been on record saying maybe the worst thing that's come from Tiger's downfall is the fact that the video game has not had any progression. I think that's right. I will say I just watch it again. The trailer is so sick. It's like cool, but like they like threw it into replay mode and like zoomed around the golf course. Like yeah, you have good graphics.

You've always had. good graphics golf club you showed us nothing different i could i can i bet you the golf club 2019 could come out with that same exact intro and nothing is different yeah but they got as a teaser that's the whole point of a kind of a teaser but like tease me with something different like oh this is new not just like 2k 21 and 2k's always been on the if you look at the golf club like the actual like disc 2k has always been involved in it so it's like now they're just like throwing it they oh i didn't know players isn't the players of the flag new isn't that new yeah i think that may be new.

That's pretty substantial. They're going to be in some real PR trouble if there's no players. Like, they're going to be in some real PR trouble if there's no players. Like crazy. Like they really rolled out the red company. I mean, it's dominated Twitter this morning. Dominated. Outside of the golf circles.

Like people are just like, holy shit, because everybody's got these fond memories of the old Tiger games where you can play with Tiger Woods. You can play with all these professional golfers. It is a little concerning that they didn't even allude to that. You know what golf course they have in the golf club 2019 is T. is TPC Deer Run.

If they just repurpose that fucking shit for this, I'm going to fucking light that whole place on fire. If you're listening to PGA Tour 2K21 and you need players, a little ad revenue, you can pay us and I'll be in your game. That's not going to move the needle at all. Yeah, I want to, if the island just want to get back to playing, I'll just go play on their team too. Like, I mean, what are you talking about?

Need players. He goes, I mean, what are you talking about? And like you were saying rigs, like, Obviously, the boss man would be an insane fee to get him in the game, but you pay it because if they come out and they're like, Tiger Woods is in this game, people are buying that immediately. It's worth it, more than worth it. Yeah, I, you know, I wonder how expensive he is. And I wonder how much, like, his crew loves holding that over everyone of, you know, like, I was even thinking, like, how much do you think Tiger was involved in selecting who got to go in his old games? Like Ian Poulter showed up one year. Like, do you think Tiger fucking held that over him forever of like, you know, if you go get my lunch for me all week at the Arnold Palmer, I'll let you in my time in my new video game. I don't know.

I don't know what all goes into that. And I can't imagine how difficult it would be to get Tiger Woods likeness and everything signed off on to be in the new video game. Barry Bonds was never in the MLB games. He was John Dowd. That's right. Is that right? I do kind of remember. Barry Bonds was.

Gary Bonds was John Dowd in like MLB, the show, like whatever, and he was a right-handed white guy. You got to think when they were like, all right, when they, EA came to the table and they were like, all right, we're going to bring back PJ Tour 2K21. They had a whiteboard with things that they had to do to make it go forward. And the top of the list had to be get Tiger Woods on board. And if they didn't get that to go through, then you just scrapped the whole thing. Yeah. I just have like a really bad feeling like they got a little more funding and they, they, now have like better online servers and like you can play in online tournaments and they're

going to be like we added Matthew Wolfe and like everyone's going to be like oh like someone random and they're going to be like all right yeah like Victor Hovlin all the young guys it's like it's a new generation it's a new generation of golf and like like like whatever like PJ 2k21 the future they're going to call it or some shit like that and it's going to be like fucking morikawa and stuff like guys who are willing to come on the show at us. That's not who I want to play video games with. I want to play with Tiger Woods. Like you're saying, I want to rip around golf courses with the greatest player of all time. That is how I escape life. Like, I don't want to just play as myself in that game. I want to play as the mythical creature who's

like a video game in real life. I want to be him. I want to take a shirt off in the game. Like, like, like, do cool shit. I want to take your shirt out. That was the other that you remember when you feel to like change outfits and like, like put on cool shit. Like, oh, I'm going to put on a black hat. or like now I'm going to put on a fucking beady and shit. Like I want to be able to do that stuff with Tiger. See what you're looking tight in. You always take it one step into like if Tiger gave you his gum.

You're like I'd pop that right in my mouth and start chewing. Swallow it. You were like, I want Tiger Wood's shirtless. I may even sit on it. Jesus. You're like I want Tiger Woods shirtless. I want to take him to the store and buy him nice things. Well, you know that like Tony Hawk thing or that like you can like change the fucking.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's kind of the little thing we did with our merch for Black Friday. are you. Tony Hawk was so great. On N64, the blue cartridge. I love that game, man. Great game.

Anyways, 2K, 2-1. All the details will be out, I guess, next week. So we'll find out the answers to all of our questions. Hopefully they get it right. Hopefully, it's super fun. Hopefully we can be playing a really cool golf video game again soon. Other news, I was correct. I don't know if we talked about this last show or not.

I know we didn't talk about it much if we did, but the Rory and DJ match skins. match versus Ricky and Matthew Wolf. It was confirmed. It came out on Monday. It's happening May 17th. It's happening at Seminole. It's like a two-on-two skins match for charity, PGA tour and NBC working together.

If you recall, I reported this about two weeks ago. Seminole, the fact that they're doing it, Seminole has really elevated this thing. If you, you know, you know now as well that the Tiger, Phil, Peyton Mannington-Taddy match is happening after this one. I see some people, if you're a little bit of kind of the golf hardo, golf Twitter hardo type saying that this is better, that this whole Rory and Ricky and DJ and Matt Wolf one is going to be better, actually, in this other side show, having two quarterbacks involved in the golf thing

is not nearly as good and wholesome and legitimate golf as, it's like, what the fuck are you talking about? There's just no way that this is going to be as good as Tiger Woods. We just did a whole thing about how you can't even launch a video game without the guy, let alone an actual golf match, is going to be less than this little skins game with Rory and these other guys. Having said that, yes, the Tiger Woods going to be better. I'm more excited about having said that.

The fact that this is at Seminole, Seminole, I looked it up, Golf Digest, Top 100, course rankings is number 12. It's always way up there. And it's one of those courses that nobody really knows anything about. It's Donald Ross, 1929. Core Crenshaw went in, I guess, three years ago and did kind of their whole thing with the restoration, renovation.

I don't know exactly what they did because nobody really knows that much about the course because it's super exclusive, it's super private, and it's never been on television. It's going to be the television debut. That part is incredibly exciting. Yeah, I mean, just watching more golf, like you said, and being able to see a place like Seminole. You know, our guy, Seth Dwa often talks about Seminole to us when we are around them. And I've always wanted to see what that place looks like up close.

I mean, you hear all the stories. They all get down there, like secretly and play those matches at Seminole, like big-name golfers and stuff for big money. And it's just like it's got a lot of that, like, weird, not-known history of being like an elite club. and I mean, it's like Pine Valley as well. Like you just want to know what goes on over there. Like what's going on in there? Like you're behind those trees. Like what are you guys doing in there?

And I think that's that type of place. Yeah. It's the number one reason that I'm like interested in a golf match. Right. Right. Anyone could be playing there. It's like let's just watch 18 holes of Seminole. Yeah. I hope they do a whole preview, a whole by whole thing that comes out or something

to build up because I just care about seeing it with my own eyes. Yeah. It's ranked ahead of Friars Head. It's ranked ahead of Pacific Dunes. It's ranked ahead of Whistling Strait. It's ranked ahead of Riviera. It's ranked ahead of the ocean course. It's ranked ahead of a lot of major elite golf courses in the United States,

and it's going to be making its television debut. So that part is probably the thing I'm most thrilled about watching Rory play golf is always cool. Rory is as good of a figure in all the sports, I think, as you could possibly have. He's raw. He's insanely talented. He's a winner. He's won four major championships. He's won a ton of tournaments.

He's always right there in the mix. He's one of the biggest stars in the game. And he seems like a great dude, a really honest guy. So the fact that he's there is really cool. I think Ricky is maybe the most overhyped person in all of golf. I mean, Ricky is legit. He just wears his orange and wore like... A couple rickie shay shots coming here right now.

I can see it in ricochet. Just hammered. War like a goofy hat. And all of a sudden became like the most popular guy in golf. I mean, he's got a few wins. But it's not even like he's that exciting. Like it's not like Ricky's boring to watch play. He's just very boring.

Trevor Immelman is like is like more exciting than Ricky Fowler. And he won a Masters and won a pediatric tour event, one all around the world. Like, why aren't we talking about like because he didn't wear a cream sickle hat? Like I don't know. Like why do we talk about because he's friends with guys who were more successful than him? I mean, at that point I was talking about Smiley Coffin. Right. And these are not, I'm not being negative towards Ricky.

Can we get a life check on smiling, by the way? What's that? We did that a year ago and we still have a word. Can we get a pulse? Did he get like married since then? I feel like he's married. But yeah, Ricky, it's not like Ricky is going to be from anything I've seen this electric factory on the live coverage being like miced up, right?

Like he seems like a nice kid, nice guy. I don't have anything. I mean, he refuses to look at us when we go to get. Golf tournaments. When we were in Australia, when we're Australia, we're like, all right,

we're going to go just say a word to Ricky. And he looked at us like, with like those no eyes, like don't you dare come over here. That's the vibe I got the entire time. Right. So again,

it's not like I don't, I have no reason to hate Ricky, but I don't think that he is this, um, awesome fascinating figure that every time he opens his mouth. I can't wait to hear what he's going to say. He gives PR answers. He's got a very protected brand.

His brand is highly successful. and make a ton of money off it. You get kids running around all over the place with their big orange Buma hats. So good for Ricky. But in terms of adding him to like this broadcast, yeah, he does good Instagram stories with him and JT and stuff. So if we bring it a little bit more of that part of Ricky out, it could be good. But again, he's not like the, he doesn't seem to be the funniest, like highest personality

guy on the BGA or DJ is, by all accounts, a snooze fest when he does interviews. Maybe again, you get a new side out of him. Maybe they'll be having some cocktails. Maybe Paulino will be fucking running around trying to steal the stardom and this. I don't know. But like that compared to Tiger Woods, Phil Mickelson, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, like, come the fuck up. It's actually stunning how low the height is.

I will say. The last guy you left out is wolf. And Wolf and Matt Wolf, who's, I mean, he's got a funky swing. Okay. All right. I think the big surprise player, though, could be Wolf. I think you could see a little, like, humor out of him. I think it could be his coming out of part.

but I think it's funny that you even just left him out of the four. He did like a miced-up thing, I feel like at one tournament over the last year where he was pretty funny and like a little edgy and like when we had more cow on, he was talking about how he's by far the least mature. So yes, he might have the most personality and this whole thing out of the bunch, but he's the least star power. So it's interesting. I'm in no way not happy that it's happening.

I'm pumped that it's happening. It's going to be a, it's going to be a scene and event. everyone's going to be watching because nobody has anything else to watch, whether you're a golf guy or not or golf gal or whoever. So it's all net positive. But if we're comparing this to the Tiger Phil thing, come on. And when you broke the news, no one cared. Like, you were like expected.

Like, nobody even picked it up, Trent. That's what I mean. Like, I mean, it is false victim to being announced short there, like right after the Tiger Woods thing. But when you broke that news, everybody was like, okay. I didn't even get a thousand likes on it. What is that? I'll watch it.

There's no way I'm not watching it, but I don't know how much it's going to translate to the masses unless people are bored sitting around doing nothing, which is the situation we find out. I could just tweet out Frankie sucks at chipping. I'll get a thousand likes. I fucking break news about this first golf match coming back since the global pandemic weeks in advance before anybody else even announced it.

I get nothing. So outside of Korean baseball, this is going to be the first. sporting event that happened, right? And nobody cared about it. It's crazy town. But anyways, it is happening. Seminoles cool. A lot of cool stuff about it. It's just if we're going to play the comparison game, you know, I have to, I have to say that. So Lurch is one of the worst, I would say, grammatical folks I've ever met in my entire life. You can't really understand anything that he's saying via text or via anything really that's done in, um,

written form, right? Thank you. Dude, I mean, I don't know where this is going, but all I know, I know where it's going, our ForPlay group chat is the most frustrating thing in my life. Oh, why's that, Trent? It's just you, you, everyone knows how to communicate except for Lurch. And York Chat is no idea how to communicate, which is stunning because you're in the

corporate world where communication is the whole thing. We're a bunch of dumb bloggers and podcasters. You just kind of, you know, do whatever we want. You, for some reason, you for some reason, don't have the rhythm of our group chat. Please tell me how. Well, it's like, there's no like specific example of like what you would say, but like, it's just the vibe you give up that you're always asking the second, like, we come up with

the time to do the podcast. If I could. If I could. And you're like, so 1.30, we're like, well, no, like we already said 10 messages ago, like one o'clock's going to work for everyone. You're like, all right. So maybe I'll do one. Thank you.

Well, we already just said one. So today. The best part about this was it was supposed to be an ad read intro. That's the best. For Grammarly, and I love them. We'll get to it in a second. If you use Grammarly, we wouldn't even have to be having this little second, maybe.

So Jake Bass, 12 to 2, 2 to 4 guests, how we look at it. I say, I say 2 to 4 times. Today it wasn't the best example. Five messages go by, and then I say I have calls from 1 to 2, you know, if you want to change around going forward,

it hurts me to plan. And then literally, maybe 10 texts later, Riggs just goes, we're on for 1 p.m. It's like, what am I taking crazy pills? Maybe you bloggers just don't have a great idea. Let me transfer it back to you, Riggs. I want you kick off this lovely ad read. I have to just agree with the sentiment from Trent and Frankie

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Dot com slash four. I think we know how to read. I think you don't know how to communicate. It's also like you like to like, you like to comment on things, but sometimes you miss a lot of the chunk of it of the messages. Like we'll like rattle off four or five in a row. And then so you'll write just like, great one. And you're talking about like a video that was that was put out like maybe.

be seven messages before and I'm like what like well what's great. I have a job so sometimes I know right so like that's what we mean it's just it's the flow of the thing man like that's you just explained it like you're doing other things you're fucking plugged in selling software we're rattling off like times we're going to record and all and you're just like great vid I'm like well what's the vid we're talking about time that we're going to record. Thank you. Read back through the text messages after this podcast because this is terrible podcasting but read through

I say two to four is perfect and then literally read a good example. Today is not a good example. It's not a good example. We're just saying, because you're wrong. Today you were wrong. You are in the minority here. It's three on one.

You are three idiots for someone that actually communicate four on one. It's four on one. It's four on one. There comes Jake. All I'm saying, and we can move past after this because, like you said, it's not the greatest podcasting.

There's just natural rhythms that come with the our group chat, and sometimes you go against the grain and it confuses people. That's all. Great leaders take people where they need to go, we're not where they want to go. I played golf yesterday. And, oh, Lurch, don't be like that, man. Come on.

I'm kidding. And I actually think that it's gotten to the point, and this is no joke, right? I think it's gotten to the point where my putting is worse than my chipping right now. Like, significantly worse. No, you're shooting low 80s. Dude, you wouldn't be able to shoot 100. Because I've told you, I'm not missing that many greens, man. Like, I'm hitting my irons well.

My drives are getting out there. can't put to the point like I'm putting off greens I'm de-greening constantly now I'm playing golf courses that have a little bit quicker greens I'm not like I'm not in my safe space where I can drill these putts I'm not in my room where I'm hitting on a flat mat that goes into a little hole like I'm dude I played this place Rockville links yesterday and shout out to my guy Kagan awesome dude southern guy came up here you know the turf school stuff that whole turf school grind fascinates me yeah it does I agree with like he said a lot of the people so my boy Kagan. So I used to caddy at this place, Rockville Links. That was like where I first started

that in Garden City Men's Club. And I haven't been there in 10 years. And they did restorations, which is also awesome. A guy came in and, you know, for the past five years has been nitpicking little things. I got there. There's just no trees there anymore. I was like, what is this golf course? They took all the trees down and all these bunkers, sick golf course. Unreal. Reminds me of pioneers with every green's like turtleback. It's nuts. Can't keep it on the green. And so he's telling me like a lot of the guys in Turstool don't play golf. They just do it for like, you know, it's like their job like they're they live on golf courses they have to manicure golf courses they have to make sure the grass is good at the end of the day it's like us like having to i guess like be on the

internet it's like they just want to log off and not really play the game he's like i guess i'm just a golf hardo that like loves to just like do my work and then get back out and rewalk the golf course and play it this time which is true like a lot of caddies you see like some of the older guys don't like to play because they're like man i just walked 1836 holes i'm gonna go back out there and try and do it myself and probably do a shitty job and just, like, get mad at myself. So that's very interesting to me that your life revolves around golf and a lot of the guys don't play it. But my putting was so bad that people, like, started to feel bad for me and, like, giving me,

like, almost like when Riggs would be, like, put to the picture. Like, they couldn't watch it anymore. I was stepping up to balls where guys were stepping me off, telling me to back off, now let's hold on before you, let's hold off before you go and drill this one off the green because we can't sit here and watch you do this. They don't want you to put to this spot right here. So it's, it's getting really, really bad.

Oh, no. I don't know. You can't chip and you can't putt. You're going to be in trouble. I had a couple of like, like I had a couple of holes where I skull fuck going off over the green. But like aside from that, like I'm getting them on the green. It's just like two putting is impossible for me right now.

Like 18 feet away from the hole, a two putt's no, no, no chance is that like a given. A two putt's no chance of giving I'm putting for birdie easily make a bogey every time Every single time What is your What is your last thought Before you pull the putter back No joke

I look at the hole Now I look for a spot that I made I look for a new hole I paint the picture I look for a new hole Put to the picture And when I look down I then everything I thought about

It's erased and I'm like Let's just try And go straight back and straight forward. That's the last thing I think about. So like left and right and distance, it just erases out of my brain. And it's just, let's make sure this goes straight. It's crazy. I actually may start putting looking at the hole like speed plus. I don't know what else to do. Riggs, what is your last thought before you, you put? So it's pretty similar, I think, to Frankie, but I don't know, like to what he described. I don't know if that's where he's actually doing.

And what I, like, this is what I, and I, the only reason I do this is because Tiger explained it like this, obviously. And it was, and I think that it makes sense like this, the more I thought about it. But it's the put to the picture thing where it's, I look at the hole. I usually, I take three looks at the hole. I like, I like set up next to the ball. I look at the hole. Look back. Move my feet forward.

Line the putter up behind like with the ball where I think, look at the hole again, settle and do the little wiggle. Look at the hole one last time. And then as soon as I look back, I just pulled a putter back. So the last thing visual in my brain was the hole. And the reason that I do that is when you, everybody always makes the comparison with pace and golf of if you throw baseball to somebody, they're like, you wouldn't think like I'm throwing at 18 feet. But the issue with that is that you're fucking looking at the person when you throw it to them.

Right. And golf, you're looking straight down at the ground. So like, how am I supposed to do the same motion and use the same judgment tools when you're looking at the fucking ground. Like if you had to throw a baseball to somebody, be you had to do it staring at the ground. Like, how would you... You'd be trying to think about not how far the guy was by distance.

You'd be trying to think like, okay, what was that image? He was over there and throw it like that. So I try to do the same thing with golf. So the last thing I think about is I look at the hole, I look back, and then literally the second, or the split moment that I look back at the ball, I just pulled a putter back without thinking about anything. because a lot of times when my pace is horrible,

it's I do, I look at the hole and then when I look back at the ball, I wait a second or two before I pull it back, and that's what things are a nightmare. That's what I do. I look at the hole. I look at my whole little canvas. I'm drawn.

I'm fucking ross in it. And then I look down. I look down and then I just reset. It's a complete reset. So whatever I just did 10, 15 seconds ago, it's now me and the ball. It's like, all right, let's make sure that I at least take it back and forward. Eliminating all prior

like knowledge of distance and left or right. It's like, let's just, let's just hit it straight. And then that's when I pull it and it goes down the hill and off the green. I haven't wedged my hand again. Twice yesterday. Twice. Pudding. I could be misremembering. Alfonso Ribeiro does, he told us to do what Riggs does. Like, as soon as you look down, you got to go. Or you wait. Alfonso Ribeiro said to do a practice stroke while looking at the hole. Which I do. I like that.

And then continue your practice stroke when looking down. Yes. Because he's saying like your practice stroke when looking at the hole will be like throwing a baseball because you can see the target. And then as you go down, continue doing it because then you'll see what that is. But I don't do that. But you can't stop. And then once you start to think, then everything goes out the window. Totally.

Because you've, you've now, you've moved on to a different train track. from that whole track you were doing earlier that was like setting up to this moment you're now on a new one and you're like oh fuck oh fuck and then it's got how men like the game is so mental and you always hear these numbers like percentages of how the like mental like mental the game is and I always like never understand that because you just have to like be able like be an athlete like swing them club and hit the ball but like bro when you drop drop down you drop down you drop down and you drop down and you drop one down and you drop one down and you drop one in the ball like let's say you hit a bad put it or let's say you duff a wedge and then you throw another one down be like let me try it again or you duff one in the bunker, you do it again, you always hit the second one because you're not thinking at all. You're not thinking about what's happening. You're not, you have no pressure of a match. You have no prior things in your head. You're just like, oh, let me see if I can do this again. And you do it every time. I hit, I can hit like a four iron stinger to like 20 feet on my second try every single time. But the first try, I take 15 inches of fucking grass and I break my wrist because I'm I'm thinking so much about how my launch angle and the fastest amount of speed is going to be on impact.

Like, if I could just like get zapped like by the men in black thing and like right before I swing, I think I'd be a scratch golfer. That's a fact. Like if I didn't think I'd just be phenomenal. And the best part was kids identified this about your game immediately. He just was like now Frankie could never be much better because he can't do it mentally. I'll know. There's a block.

It's a mental block that I can I'll never, I'll never get through. I need to go to like, uh, Qman. school of learning, whatever those things are. You know, like they teach the kids, like how to just like learn. Like, like, like, extra-curricular learning. It's like, I'm never going to be able to do that. I have to sit down in a class and learn. Yeah, it's like an inception where they have to go through this whole operation

to break down the walls of the guy through like inception in his brain before they can actually put the idea in there. I need to be broken down before I get, although I need to, I need someone to make me cry. Like, sit me in the corner. You know, you are a failure in almost every single thing. do in life and I'm just sitting there like a, like, crying and then all of a sudden I can hit a wedge, that'd be great. You need

you do, you need the Goodwill hunting where you have like the, it's not your fault conversation. And then you're crying and you completely break down and expose yourself emotionally and mentally. And then you might be ready to play your best golf, Frank. Yeah, it's even yesterday, like, there was a bunch of times yesterday where I threw a second ball down. And I mean, and it was laugh out of loud funny. I was like,

just, I'm like the sickest golf. I actually want to play a full round with two balls. You should do that. That would be really interesting. That's what I think Phelps did. Michael Phelps did that. And he was like a 15 handicap and he did that. He played two balls from every shot. And then I believe he shot like a 73 that day. And then from then on, he was just a single to single handicap. Can I play with two balls? With people like, would people even care if I did, I want to do that. I want to know. And so he just played the better of every ball. And like, then he said. Yes.

It would be so fun. I've never done it. But I would love to do it. You could always do it and just be like, I'm doing this for content, too. Like, this is something we're doing for the podcast. Yeah. I think you'll be fine. Nobody will bitch at you.

I'm doing two balls. I'm going to do a two ball 18 whole round. I want to know what the overrun you think would be. Give it to me right now. I think your first round is going to be like 87. And I think your second one, you're going to shoot 79. Oh, wait. So what do you talk about?

No, so I would eliminate the second. Oh, so I would put the, I'm saying play around. play your round of both balls. So your first ball is around and your second ball is around. Wow. Okay. Oh, wow. That'd be tough to keep on.

Oh. Yeah. No, not really. You just say like... Well, that would be so hard because it would multiply. You'd hit one drive. Yeah. Then you'd have to hit two balls from your best spot and your worst drive. No. No. No. No. He just hits two shots from my pocket.

Like he's two different golfers. Yeah, like two different golfers. There's Frankie one and Frankie two. Right, but then he wouldn't do what Phelps. He couldn't figure out what Phelps did. So he literally would hit two drives, hit another two balls from his best drive spot. So he'd pick up his worst.

He was doing a scramble. It would be interesting to see. If you did it that way, what percent of the second shots do you use? So my point being, like, what I do when I'm on the course anyway, everyone does this when they're playing around. You shank a ball and you take a ball out of your pocket and you hit the second one. Right.

If I did that for the entire round, two balls. Like even, let's say, let's say my first drive was pipe. Like, do I, I don't use it, right? Like, I mean, I use it. Like, I don't have to hit a second ball. Right. In my, in my scenario where I'm like, you basically get a mulligan every shot. Yes. Yeah. That's what, but I think then you could keep two scores, though. Right. You could. Because the other one's just the two ball scramble. Do you know what I mean? Right. Right. You should do it. I would be a interested to see your two-ball script. Like, I think two-balls scrable...

I like Briggs's idea, too, because, like, you got a chance to see... Yeah, yeah. What's the difference in score when you already hit your bad shot and, like, you have a chance to correct it? Right. Like, you're taking the mental part out of it. You have a chance to correct it. You're thinking about less.

You just threw another ball down and hit real quick. Are you, like, that much better than when you do your whole fucking routine and, like, hit your first one when you've got all these mental head games going on. I think you're taking, like, 190 shots, 180 shots, and maybe a lot more tired. really add up because if you do that and you drop it and do the rigs game too so then you what you pull your first ball and then you drop and hit a good one but you still have to go play that pull ball and you have to play the good one it just would take forever it would be like it's own thing yeah the two man scramble is doable that would be very hard the rigs game it'd have to be like you're out

on the course by yourself or something yeah or with one other person I think easier yeah that I want to do but I think easier to do by myself is just like I get a mulligan for every Yeah, two-man scramble would be the one mil-mulligan for every single swing I have. I've been wanting to do that for like 10 years. And like how many mulligans do I take? And then how much better is my score with that? Like, I think I take maybe 40, 50 mulligans. How about like Tiger and then when he practices and he talks about back in his prime?

I don't know if he still does this, but he'll do a worse ball. Yeah, which is awesome. That's when you're really good. You're trying to do the opposite. So he hits four, he'll hit four balls? No, he goes, he tees off. takes his worst of two drives. Then from that second spot,

he takes the worst of his two irons. And from that spot, he takes the worst of his two puts. And from that spot, you know, he does that the whole lot. That's when you have such little amount to iron out in your game,

you can do that. That's incredible. Imagine you make a 20-foot bob for Bertie and it just doesn't count. You have to hit another one. So that means his worst version of himself, he's still sick. Correct.

The worst version you can be. Could you... The worst possible round, he could have shot that day. We should do both sides of that. Frank, I'll meet you. We'll play 36 holes. The first time we'll do a two-man scramble of a better ball. And then the second time we'll do a two-man scramble,

but you have to take the worst shot each time. That'd be amazing. I want to see what those... Dude, I'll drive the Long Island. I'll meet you somewhere. We'll do it. Yeah, all right. I would shoot...

Yeah, I'd shoot over 100 easily. Oh, definitely. Definitely. Dude, that might get, that might get me out of my apartment. I would come do that. Dude, that'd be fucking awesome. If you have a seven footer for par and you make the first one, you still have to make the second one for it to count.

To like confirm it. Yes. Or else you just like, I know you're like, you're like, do a double tap in from a foot mat. Dude, imagine you're fucking 140 out after hitting two good drives to get there. Oh my God.

You rip one to like eight feet and they're like, now you have to do that again. And then you hit a horrible one. Like you have to go play from the horrible. That would be inferior. The bet could be, too, what do you think your spread is? So, like, if you're low sides 30 or sorry, 75, say, where do you think your high number is? Do you think it's plus 30?

Do you think it's that much worse? I think it's probably more than a stroke a hole, right? Yeah, I think, but like, you know, you break, like that'd be saying. Is it a stroke at a half a hole? I know. So it would be interesting. But I'm in. If you boys want to meet up, I'm in Jersey.

Let's make it happen. I would like that. That would be fun. It would be a lot of fun. fun. You guys should definitely do it. That'd be fucking hilarious. Oh, man, that's good. That's good stuff. Because it's like how, I don't know, it's, yeah, I want to do it. It would be so frustrating. I would like to do the good ball first because the second ball would be almost impossible to get through the round. Like you hit a good pitching wedge from 150 and to Riggs's point, you had hit two good

drive to just get there. And now you've got to hit two good pitching wredges just to have a put for birdie on it. Like it would be brutal. It'd be impossible. I want you guys to do this and I want to see, we'll make a little bit on the spreads and see what you guys come in at. It could be quite interesting. Yeah, we have to have the numbers.

Yeah. We'll do it. Predetermined. It's, uh, it's May boys. It's like May 6th, which is an outrageous. It's an outrageous date. And it's like, we're well into the springtime now. I'm starting to notice a few homes around here, several homes around here are looking about as pristine as they could possibly look.

I'm noticing too a massive difference between homes that don't take care of their landscape and their lawn and homes that do and how big of a difference that makes, how laughable. It's a status thing, man. Like you go down a street, you walk around your town and you're like, this guy doesn't care about it's a lawn. Like at that point, it's like, what, do you care about anything? It's the, it's the, it's the, it's like, your property like you own you own it right you own this land that's my land like you're you're a man

like you own this land parsons our guy parsons owns grass like he's gonna make his grass look good you own a piece of earth yeah like it's your piece of earth man make it look good right like like like feed it let it let it feel right like make that shit sprout like let's let's let's let's give back to the earth. Don't just give it the chemicals and all this stuff. Like, give it something good. You put good stuff in your body. You go on diets. You cleanse. I see these people cleansing right now during the quarantine. I want you cleanse your grass. Your grass is dying out there. Make it look good. You know how you do that? About something once in your life, Trent? Come on. Scott's. I mean, I live in. I don't know why I was staring at Trent as I made that whole speech. But Scott, I know, I got to go on a diet. I know. I get it.

No, it wasn't about that. I don't know. It was not the grass. Scots, turf builder, triple action, that's how you do it. That's how you feed your grass, the good stuff. If you've got weak, thin grass, weeds, bugs, common wear and tear from the elements, you're breaking your back, trying to keep your yard looking pristine. You just got to get Scots, turf builder, triple action. It's going to give your lawn thicker, healthier qualities, greener grass, and it's going to be less work for you. Beautiful green grass doesn't have to stop once you've left the golf course. Build your own private chipping paradise, putting paradise, golf paradise, hanging out, paradise, and build that status in the neighborhood. Thanks to Scott. That's turf builder triple action. They are the sponsor for From the Gallery, for Play at Barstool Sports.com. Put the headline from the gallery. Keep it short so that I can read it. And we will get to your question, your concern, your story, whatever it is. Blake says, would you rather play a top 25 course with three stick in the mud members

that make you feel like you're walking on eggshells all day? Would you rather have a normal day with three your buddies? Do we do this one already? I think so. Possibly, but I think the answer is with your buddies. Always. Who wants to play with three sticks? We've talked at length on this show about how awful it is.

When you're with a group that, like, exactly like that guy said, makes you feel like we're walking on eggshells. That's just not an enjoyable day, even if it is a top 25 course, I would much, much, much. That feeling inside your stomach? It feels like I ate Taco Bell yesterday. That's how it makes me feel. And it's like, it's bad.

Oh, was I supposed to wear my hat in that part of, the clubhouse like did i did i was i supposed to walk across that like putting green there is that clothes like oh am i supposed to be wearing this type of shirt like ah i hate it i hate it it's such some of those courses are fucking awesome which sucks but yeah that's the downside yeah you don't get to play like could you all right seminoles we're just talking about seminal you play with three just brutal stick in the mom members you get to play seminar or you go play with your why you're saying Seminole like that. Yeah, why are you saying Seminole?

Why are you saying, like the first two times I let us slide. You said three times in order I had to comment on it. Seminol? Seminole. Seminole. Seminole. Seminole. Seminal. All right, sorry.

I was saying it wrong. I apologize. Kill me. My communication's terrible. See, that's what the people at the club would be doing you. You'd rather say Seminole, Ashley. Exactly. Yeah.

So would you rather play? I suck. Yeah, you do. Would you rather play there or eyes an hour with your buddies? Rather play where? Well, actually, seminal. Seminole.

So it's Seminole or Seminole with three assholes or eyes out of my buddies. See, I want to say eyes out of my buddies, absolutely. But Seminole's so sick that I make sure to go fucking kick out. When you really put it on paper, it's like maybe I would. No, playing with assholes is legitimately the worst thing in the world. I get Seminole as this mysterious, mystical place, but even still. Like, I like to enjoy myself when I'm out there. My buddy the other day, Andrew, he's been ragging on me because I play like Cherry Valley,

Rockville links like all these places around here and he asked him to play like eisenhower blue the other day i was like ah you know i think i'm just gonna like hang back and he's like wow i'm sorry it's not a country club breaky and i'm like man am i turning into that right now that's when i started saying like i miss going up the t-boxes and playing with random people like i i feel like i'm changing in that aspect where it's like i'm getting so used to like really good really good greens and clubs like fuck that man i'm gonna play eyesanauer next time i get well i don't want to say if someone wants to invite me to seven I'm going to come play. Yeah, see, that's the problem with it.

It's such an allure, like perfectly manicured golf courses with pristine greens. You get to see these iconic, iconic courses and holes that nobody gets to really see. They're exclusive. You don't ever get to get out there and you're going to get invited and it's like you're going to say no to that. It is like. I say I want to play with my friends, but what am I going to go out there and just argue with my buddies and like hate my life for like a couple of holes because we like hate

each other, but then we love each other after. It's like I want to like maybe I'll go once in a lifetime experience and go. and tell them how jealous they should be that I just played Seminole. That's even more fun for me as a friend. I think it's... I don't know. The answer is like... How good is the private track is really...

I mean, you picked one of the best in the world. I know, I know. So if you say like Rockville or whatever the other club, like that's not as famous to me, I don't know it, so I'm just going to say around my buddies, but someone says Pine Valley. Someone says Seminole. I think, I think, too,

it's, like, if the question was, would you rather have every round for the rest of, of your life has to be one or the other. It would be with my buddies. Yes. But like on any given Saturday. Dude, Pine Valley. Someone's going to be like, you could go play Pine Valley with a bunch of three stuck up,

stuck in the mud, total like Dick Wad members and feel like you're walking on an eggshells a whole time. Or you go play Eisenhower with Frankie and his two clown buddies. Like, I'm going to Pine Valley. They could invite me to Pine Valley and put me up on like a pedestal in the clubhouse and just make me strip down. and makes fun of my penis and like everyone jokes about how much they might you don't know they might like dude they could do they could pull my toenails off like i'm at i'm getting interrogated by the

cartel and at that point i'd still go out there with wiping the tears out of my eyes and play pine valley i would because that's like at some like your buddies would too like that's the point like they would they'd say yes in a heartbeat so i don't know but yeah on like a get on any given day i'm choosing the elite club, but like for the rest of my life, I mean, that's some of the, like, the only reason you want to play is to have fun. So it's like at that point, I want to have fun my buddies. Yeah. Stop the hammering. Someone's hammering in my town. Stop the hammering.

It's coming from here, there, somewhere. Do you guys don't hear this hammering? No. It's someone's just like, I want to look at someone, just looking at a wall, just hammering a wall, getting no work done at all, just hitting something. God, it's so annoying. Poor Frankie. Mitch says if you remove all history and reputation,

what is the most eye-watering, all-inspiring golf course you've ever seen? He says he's talking about a course that just visually blows you away. He said, surely the old course of San Andrews then wouldn't even crack your top 50 on this criteria. It is. What was the, sorry. History and reputation. You take all history, all like reputation status out of it. What's just like the most all inspiring golf course you've ever seen?

Number one being Pebble Beach. That has to be number one. You walk down four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten. And you actually like want to cry, right? It's like you're inside of painting. It's the most awe-inspiring place I've ever been. Dave Portnoy, who says like, oh, like he doesn't get the hype. He went to Augusta National and was like, I don't get it.

He went to Pebble Beach and said, it's one of the most beautiful places he's ever been. Monterey Peninsula is a fake life place. It's like a movie is being filmed at all times. The house we stayed in was immaculate. The golf course was incredible. The views are something I'll never see before. But if you take all that away,

we've talked about how it's just like a regular golf course. If you take like the cliffs and the ocean and all that stuff away, whatever. The actual most awe-inspiring and like taken back I've been in a golf course by golf course architecture and what it looked like, aside from Augusta was fucking Sage Valley, man. Sage Valley was the most beautiful golf course I've ever stood on that I could play. Like golf course, not like visuals of like, yeah, yeah, I could stand on a cliff in Ireland and look outside the cliffs of O'Hare, whatever that that shit's called and like get the same like,

Moher, isn't it Moher? Whatever. Moher? Moher? Lawn mower? I don't know. I'm half a horse. I should join that.

Okay. Um, that's why I'm so white and pale. Sage is a good one. Sage is a very, Dave Valley was like, where are we right now? Like, dude, it's a background on my phone.

It looks like Augusta. It's got these like rolling hills and the perfect tree lines and the greens were immaculate. My caddy made the experience hilarious and awesome. Like everything about that was like, and we played nine holes. And we all. And then we did the par three course.

Hold on. I just saw something funky there. When you read that, when you read that point. Oh, yeah. my caddy backed me off and goes, now hold on here. I saw something funky right there.

Dude, at one point, he took the club out of my hand. I had a seven iron. He stood in front of me and goes, the rest of the guys in this group are going to hit a seven iron. You're going to hit a five iron. I'm like, why?

He goes, why? Because I know what the winds are doing. And I'm like, holy shit. This guy's like the grandmother from Pocahanna. She's like the tree. He's the wind. And I ripped this five iron to 10 feet.

And he just, he didn't say a word. He just took my club and handed me my butter. And he was like, Go on, young fella. Go get your birdie. I'm like, holy shit. It was.

It was. Dude, that's the best moment I've had on the golf course. We only played nine goddamn holes, but the par three course was sick. We ended up playing an 18 holes worth of golf. Yeah. That place will make you, I'll think about that place the rest of my life.

I really will. Sage Valley, it's a place I'll think about forever. That's a good one. Pebble Beach, I agree with. I've said forever that I think Pebble Beach is like actually underrated, which that sounds. insane. It's become like cool and woke to be like fuck Pebble Beach because they're a cash

crop. They charge freaking, you know, $2,500 for a foursome and they know, they'll never restore the course. And it's worth it. Like Pebble Beach is stunning. Like you said, and it does have the history. Like that guy's whole thing was take the history and the reputation out of it. Pebble Beach, that fourth hole through the, through the 10th hole is the most stunning stretch of golf. And you also still have 17 and 18. It's just, I've, I've never. ever experienced anything like it. I don't know that ever will. So I think that's just, it's, it really is like, it's spectacular.

Like, when you see Pebble, you're just like, oh, my God, this is outrageous. It's like God handcrafted Pebble Beach. Like, it looks like something that a video maker, like a movie maker would be like, oh, let's like make this eerie, dreamlike scenario where like waves are crashing into a par three and you're hitting, like, come on. Eight. I mean, are you kidding to me?

It's just, I'm talking about eight, about eight. You want to talk about eight? You're going to talk about eight. Yeah, you were cut in and out, but it just kept saying eight.

Your internet sticks. What? Yeah, you're kind of frozen. I would say, just fucking with him here. I'm with you on Pebble. Oh,

trying to hear about eight. Can you tell us about eight? Pebble's awesome. Don't want to man. I hate it. Was that done stable? Frankie, you're still skipping.

It's brutal. Yes, I love it. He wants to talk about eight so badly. Can anyone hear me? I'm trying to talk about eight. Can anyone hear what I'm saying? I hit one of the golf shots all time on if a U.S.

course, if the U.S. number eight, every single professional golfer would take my shot on eight. Can you hear me? You're better. You're better, but it wasn't great. God. Oh, yeah, you're better now. Yeah, you're clear as crystal now.

Every single golfer in the world would take my shot on eight is what I said. God. That was really funny that it's just like as soon as you started talking about eight, you know, it's like, we've heard this story so many times that we're just going to cut right out. Lurz, what were you about to say? Well, I mean, it is impressive that Frankie, that Sage is up there for you because, like, I think the most breathtaking thing is golf when a course just like bleeds into the water that's why obviously pebble's there like cabot for me is there and then the other course that i was going to mention will be royal doork

i thought that place was probably you know one a one b with pebble like i think those courses were absolutely stunning but i'm interested of how nice like sejap valley was because like spyglass for me is up there but i actually like spyglass the course but if i just was on one course pebble is like more awe-inspiring than spyglass which be. So I'm amazed to say that like, yeah, like Sage Valley was just right there because it's just of course going through trees, you know, and obviously that's downplaying it. When we played Bar Mugel, it felt like we were in Jurassic Park. Yeah, it was a moment too.

That's on fourth hole, too, when we walked, when we had that reveal on that par three fourth hole at Lost Farm at Barnbougal, and we all just went, holy shit, holy shit. Like I think visually that, because you play the first three holes in you're not, you can't see the water, but it's over these huge dune. And then after you finish the third hole, you walk up this hill and you don't know what's coming and you're just surrounded by this insane like teal blue Australian water off of Tasmania and you're like oh my fucking god you're in you're in Tasmania you looked so the water is just like incredible and then you look to the other

side it literally looks like you would see like a like a dinosaur like bird thing flying amongst the little mountains back there because it was like smoky towards the mountains and like the clouds were low but then over here was crystal blue water it was Tasmania is like, I mean, when you're comparing Tasmania to to Rockville Center or like Garden City, right? Like at that point, like, Tasmania is just a little blip inside the Pacific Ocean. Like, I mean, it's just like, it's like not a real place. I think on a normal day, if somebody came up to me and they were like, have you ever been to Tasmania? I would say no.

Like, I know I've been there and I know I play golf there and we had an amazing time. But if someone asked me, hey, have you ever been to Tasmania, I think I'd be like, no. Or like, if someone said, what's the craziest place you ever been? But someone said, like, what's a crazy place you ever been? I wouldn't even think to say Tasmania because, like, it's such a crazy place. I don't even think I've been there. Well, yeah, I'd be like, what's the craziest planet you've been to? Going to mainland Australia, that's crazy enough.

But if like, and then we took like a little puddle jumper plane and actually wasn't. It was a pretty large plane that we took. Yeah, but it was the most like, it was the most budget plane I've ever been on my entire life. Like, it was. I couldn't wait to get off that thing. It was so, like, they had a group of, they had a group of 100 people all wearing the same shirts. I think because in case we crashed, they could see them all in the water. That's like how, that's how it was bad, man.

We went to the furthest. We went to the furthest place. I was freaking out. We went to the as far as you can go in the world. And then we went even further. And that's Tasmania. Like, it was, it was crazy. Yeah, I would say a couple other courses that stuck out to me were whistling straits.

I thought whistling straits, just from a visual perspective. I didn't, I'm not in love with that golf course, whistling, whistling straits. I don't think it's particularly. like fun to play tea to green it's just kind of like an absolute battle it's beat die it's just you get massacred the whole time and and it's a little bit over the top like he because he just he took basically a flat piece of land that was on the water and then made it all this crazy stuff it's a little bit too kind of manufactured for my loving but from a visual spectacular standpoint it is up there it is just shocking whistling straits would you see it like oh my god how did i've never seen like this

of my entire life. Kings Barnes, which is like 25 minutes away from the old course in St. Andrews was visually off the charts. And then Cabot Cliffs. I think Cabot Cliffs just like start to finish hits you over and over again with views that you can't believe. And then the 15th, 16th, 17th, and 18th tolls are actually more kind of visually spectacular than all the others.

So I think that course. Chambers Bay, too, when we stepped out of the pro shop and like, you. You get onto like that ledge or you can see the entire golf course. You see one to 18. There's not a train site. And it's just the entire golf course up into the water. And then you got the train coming down. That place looks like something out of Hogwarts.

It looks like the Hoggworts Express goes through Chambers Day to Hoggwords. It's crazy. I think it probably would have been higher on our list if we would have had like a nice sunny day. Yeah, it was misty. Yeah, with the train coming through because like both round, the second round we played, we were up until 4 a.m. drinking with all the locals. That was when, you know, we had the whole. You like Aldera, Home Corps.

That was when that came from. So it was almost like, almost like it was foggy outside and foggy in our head. So it almost like didn't stick in my brain that we were actually at Chambers Bay. But you're right. That place was like you're on the moon. And when the train rolled through, I think that probably would have been out there. I thought Aldera was now that we talk about. Like there were moments.

That hole on the front nine might be like the six, seventh, eighth, eighth hole, whatever it was, that part five where you can see way through the valley to like the mountains kind of in the background. and how perfectly manicured it was up against all of that. And that, like, Pacific Northwest is the first time you and I had actually seen it. So that was very visually like, holy shit. I said out of nowhere, like I was talking about that guy Keegan, Kagan at Rockville Links yesterday.

And he's like, huge fan of the podcast, like listens to every single show. He listened to our show. I had an 830 T time had already listened to our show before we stepped up to the day, two hour show. Hell yeah. So, I mean, the guy's fucking awesome. Shout out to our guy, Kagan. Yeah, turf people like that are unreal, waking up at the,

crack of dawn. Love turf people. And also, I know you didn't do this again because you played with us, but whoever's in your team that put in those pins yesterday, they deserve to be, I don't know, I don't want to say shot because it's like bad, but like something bad needs to happen to them. I'd never see anything like that in my entire life. Like, just a couple guys are out there for the first tee time and you're putting fucking pins like behind bunkers and on hills so that I'm going to de green the whole entire day.

Like that's not even golf. That's fucking, that's not even golf. But the golf course is incredible love Rockville. Anyway, I was telling him out of nowhere. He's just like, oh, like, what's one of you're like? Like, like, you played all over the world, man. Like, what's one of your favorite places? I said fucking Aldera out of nowhere.

I was like, dude, that place was like, like, I, we stepped off this plane in like Seattle. And I'd never been to the West Coast, like Northwest at all. Like I don't, oh yeah, we had just been to Pebble Beach, right? Yeah. Yeah. So like that was my whole first experience to be on the West Coast. Never went further west in Colorado before that. So all this is totally different to me.

And those trees, I'd never seen trees like that. And that golf course, I mean, Kevin Chappell was walking around. like a loose hoodie and shorts, whatever the hell he was wearing. And like, the whole thing was surreal to me. That was, I have some videos on my phone of Aldera that are like laugh out loud funny. Me too. Irons into mountains. It's like, I just look at him.

Where are we? Dude, that par five on the back nine, like maybe the 12th hole that was straight down that hill that we played, and we both part it while Chapo's on the phone with like his agent or something. Yeah. That was fucking that course. And then I was just trying to think of inland courses like Aaron Hills. Yeah.

It's so different. Yeah, it's got like this simplicity and kind of like you're in the middle of nowhere. You're just in the hills of Wisconsin. But you're kind of like, how is this able to be so beautiful? And the way that they did, I think the buildings, the clubhouse, the cottages, the caddy barn. Oh, like up against kind of that landscape. So I thought. Aaron Hills was the one, the one like all-inspiring moment, not on the golf course.

Like when we got to like the amenities, that was like the first like, oh, shit. Look at, like, where the hell are we now? Like, I've never seen a clubhouse like that. I never saw like a caddy ball like that. You drive up. Yeah, like your interest, you drive up, almost like you're going up to Hogwarts. Same type of thing. And their staff was like waiting outside for us.

It's incredible. Weird, like, weird how nice it was. Lurch wanted to show us the bathroom. That was like the number one thing you wanted to show us. Which I built up and it's your jaw still hit the floor when you saw it. It's an all white marble, like, all white marble fucking. In it's public. I just do whoever gets there.

The other thing I will say, Of course, beats the shit out of you, though, too, like whistling straight to, like what you're saying. Like, I didn't enjoy actually playing Aaron Hills as much as I like the amenities and, like, staying at the- one of the best days of my life playing that course. Yeah, you played great, but like, it fucking beat the shit out.

Their range is, like, maybe the nicest range I've ever been on. And the coolest range, because you don't even see that it's there, and then you walk over that ridge. And it is one of the most beautiful ranges that I've ever worn back. How about the fact that we let, we drive up to Aaron Hills, our bags are taken by the staff. We don't see them until the next day. And the next morning you walk to this range.

It's got like fog on it. And your bag is waiting for you at a station on the range with your name on the station. And the caddies there like massaging your golf clubs, like waiting for you to go ahead. I'll never forgive myself for duffing the first one into the fucking marsh on the first tee and then losing my... I was hitting five off the tea at Aaron Hill. I think we both made like a 10 on the first whole thing. That was so bad. Like there's no worse feeling than like stepping up there and just boom right into the fucking shit.

I will say that's a tough first tee shot too. Oh yeah. It's so uncomfortable. It's very uncomfortable. But it's a cool setting. It's one of the more intimidating first tee shots because everybody can see you. You've got all that stuff we just talked about is right above you. The putting green's right there.

And then Wolf Creek, the one that I was at in Vegas, like an hour and 15 minutes outside of Vegas. That's literally from the Tiger Woods video game. That place is sick. I didn't think was real until I saw Link's gems post about it. And I was like, did you screen grab this from a video game? He said, no, that's a real golf course. It's in like Mesquite Nevada and you can just go play it. So that plays, too.

I'm sure we're forgetting a bunch, but in terms of just kind of removing history and reputation and just being stunned at the visual look and appeal of a golf course, you know, those are some good ones. A quick reminder to go to store-diparsuelsports.com. We've got you covered as we all stay the hell home from coffee mugs to sweatpants to a custom barstool deck of cards in the barstool store. We've got it all. You go to store.

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Says they're sick. So Josh sent this long thing in where he said, you know, essentially he was a PXG, you know, truther. He was like, there's no way it could be that good. So he said he did the fitting just mostly because he wanted to confirm his belief that there's no way it could be that good. And he says he was just completely wrong. He's like,

it was fucking awesome. Dude, I asked it. I asked Brock how his first, like, round was, like, with using them.

He said, like, when you hit him correct, it's like laugh out loud, funny how good those clubs are. Like, they just feel, they feel incredible.

Like, I feel a little bit like, we're like, Josh, like, I dare PXG to be bad. And they're like, oh,

we're like, oh, no, this stuff's great. Yeah, right. That is kind of how good. In PXG, you get a,

you get a email like notification as your clubs are being built almost like how domino sends you like your your process so it's like your seven iron is being inspected by doctor whatever and it's like it's crazy it's like your your stuff's being hand inspected before it's put into this box and then you open up the box it's this black all darth vader box of irons and it's like you've never played like this before it's like a huge sign and like i mean i wouldn't be surprised if music starts playing as you open up this fucking vibe. He actually got like the driver, the three woods. Like I didn't even know PXG made drivers.

And they make putters do so. Listen, am I going to say that I'm not interested in some PXGs? I'm interested in some PXGs. Like if you want toss those little bad boys at me, I'll take them for a ride. I'll take them for a spin. Like, I mean, fuck. Like at first I thought that maybe it was too much of like a status thing. Like if I show up to a golf course with PXGs, the guys are going to be like,

you better. Like we're giving you five strokes today. six strokes in this match like you spent 10,000 dollars on your eye and it's like what are you doing here but someone else made this argument too where it's like we play golf all the time like why wouldn't you spend money on something that you want to

like enjoy right like it's not it's not it's not like expensive to the point where you can't do it right like people are able to buy PXGs you don't need to go fucking mine for gold to buy these things like they're expensive but they give deals like this lefty deal they had I may actually hop on it when we get off the Zoom it's a crazy deal

it was an insane deal so But yeah, listen, if PXG's listening, you know my email. If you don't, I'll give it to you. So 100%. Remember I told you guys I went and did the true spec fitting like a couple weeks ago? Well, it was, it's been like almost that exact same experience that we just described. And no joke, five minutes before we hit record on this podcast, I got an email that all of my new clubs that they fit me for and then sent me were just delivered to my home in Pinehurst. and they've been doing the entire thing that you just said.

I just was looking up through TrueSpec, but I get emails that were like, hello, Riggs, thank you again for coming in and doing your fitting with TrueSpec. We're just writing to let you know that your order for your custom set of clubs that were fit with you with True spec are currently at 5.0 days into their process. We finish soon and shipping out to you,

and they just kept updating me the whole time, and you get giddy as fuck. Like, oh, my God, they're guys working on my clubs right now. So I've legit got my clubs are now waiting for me at my home. And I'm going to test them out at Pinehurst, probably tomorrow for the first time. But dude, I got like an assortment. I got the best clubs were like Callaway Maverick irons. I heard those are great.

Yeah. So I, you know, I told the guys like, I don't want to know what I'm hitting in terms of each brand because I don't want any preconceived notions to affect the way that I think I'm hitting them. And I was just like, whatever's best. that's what we're going with. And the Calaway Maverick irons, I can't remember the exact details. I could look at this email right now, but that's what I end up going with.

So those are waiting for me. And then the SIM driver was like the best thing that I was hitting. They just tweak the shaft a little bit and had me hitting it like significantly lower and it was rolling a lot farther. But dude, they did these like tweaks with the Calloway irons. And you know,

we did the whole thing with the tidalist fitting, whatever it was like two years ago. And it's not like they were wrong, but more like our swings change, right? It's been two years. My body changes, your swing changes, whatever. And they had me hitting all my irons like six or seven yards further in the air just by changing this shit. And I was like, and it felt phenomenal and was going straighter just with like the true spec, like the fitting that these guys were doing, which, which they just reached out to be like, why don't you come over to our facility?

We'll do it. I was like, yeah, fuck yeah. I'll go do that. And so I am like giddy to fucking get home and get my clubs. But I wonder like how different could that be from the PXG? thing. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think when you get to that level of like detail, I don't know if it's that far off. Like if true specs getting to that level of detail, I'm assuming it's the same level, like how much more can PXG do, right? Like that is as far as you can go. You're analyzing

every part of the swing, every inch of the shaft, all the fucking launch angles and stuff and they build it to your swing. I think that's one of the things that people don't understand the average golfer. Like for my whole life, like I always tell you guys, my buddy Tim, uh, who's a really good golfer. He had these Mizuno MP60s and like got new ones like I guess sent to him through like whatever sponsorship, whatever he had. And he just gave me his old set. He's a lefty and like I was in 10th grade and I'm hitting these fucking Mizunos before

that I was hitting like tailor made R7s like with huge cavity backs. And all of a sudden I'm hitting these things that have sweet spots the size of a penny. And like I learned how to hit him. I played well in high school golf like decent like decently good golf. But like I learned how to hit these clubs and like not the right way. I wasn't taking the right div. and stuff. And I think that's why I picked the ball so clean because, like, I wasn't, I was hitting, like, close to blades for, like, these years. And then I didn't play for a year almost. Like,

I wasn't playing for eight months, nine months when we started Barstle, I'm still hitting these Mizunos. And then we get the title of fitting and someone actually fits me for clubs for my speed, my, like, attack angle, whatever you want to call it. And, like, now I just, like, I feel so much more comfortable. Getting fittings is life changing for golf. It honestly, it is. And like that trust factor like you said like knowing that no these guys like when i did the whole true spec thing and when these clubs come being like no no i know that like i sat there with these guys who know their shit who are legitimate professionals who know eight million times more about equipment and shafts and lie angles and the different like club head technology than i'll ever know if i studied for a year

straight that they sat there and did like experimentation with me i'm like okay hit five balls with this one we're going to tweak this shaft a little bit hit five balls with this one we're going to tweak this shaft a little bit hit five balls with this one. Then here's the track band. Here's the data. You can't argue with the data. And oh, also, by the way, Riggs, like you felt like you were more comfortable in this one. And here's your landing pattern and your spread from like your five different swings and doing that through a bunch of different clubs in the bag from your driver, your irons. And it was like, it was fucking awesome. And now I feel like I'm going to be going to the course with legit, like the best tools that humanity and machine could possibly come together and provide for me.

and like I don't know I don't know why you wouldn't do that and like you said like we'll go out and pay hundreds of dollars for a round of golf fucking 20 30 40 times a year but people will be like well I don't want to pay like four or five hundred bucks for like a driver you're like well no like imagine how much better that's going to make your experience right and you're paying all this money for golf anyways like that doesn't make any sense golf is expensive sport to begin with and like if you want better equipment and whatever it's just what it costs and like if you're going to if it's something that you're going to be passionate about and you're going to be doing a lot like why not go get some of the best equipment out there it's like it's one of the arguments

they're being made that like the equipment's too good for these players right now it's like helping people too much right as like jack or like you guys like don't know how lucky you have it and shit speaking of it making you better if there's a company out there that makes the most forgiving gimmick clubs of all time like my dad needs a new set of golf clubs if there's a golf if there's a if there's a company out there that specializes in like you will never like miss hit and iron it won't go that far but like i'm talking like basically like the square strike version of seven irons, eight irons. Like, he needs just, like, he wants, like, all the gimmick clubs.

Like, I want, like, a company named, like, no slice.com to hit me up and do, like, yo, we have these irons that are like, you know, you have to tee it up on one of those martini teas. But, like, if you get it right, you're going to fucking hit a perfect baby fade into it. Like, that's all he wants to do. Like, he's been hitting these old ass callowls that he keeps in the rain outside, like, when there's a fucking storm and the grips are all falling off and shit. I'm like, Dad, you need new club.

like it's crazy and hopefully when we get through all this stuff with the restaurant stuff we can like go out and fucking play a nice round of golf with forgiving crazy gimmick because we also have to do that video where he uses all his funny like the square strike and all that stuff we have to because it's he's in the backyard hitting uh flop shots with uh with the spin doctor i'm like we need we need to get you on a golf course you just video that he's hitting them like on to like the fucking pool top spinning back to five feet yeah with the old spin doctor yeah we got to do that um yeah i want you guys to go out and film your video i want you guys to go play uh worst ball and best and worst ball yeah and see what you guys actually shoot um all right boys

that was fun it was nice catching up yep as always i have to pee so bad i've never had to pee this bad in my life yeah i've been timing your peas poorly lately i've been drinking a lot more water i've been trying to stay hydrated so i've been it's just i have to pee all day every day that's kind of what's going on so we got piner's number eight coming out Piner's number eight. It's coming out very soon. We were targeting this week, but with getting all the narration and trying to time everything and get it right in the way that we want it, we added some more interviews with Tom Pashley. We did a little bit more drone footage. So either in the next couple days or next week, everyone can look forward to Piner's number eight. And once that comes out, we're going to roll right out week by week. Piner's number two. And then piner's number four. You're going to get a look at the cradle. Piner's number eight. for the next like month. Yeah. And one of the things that like we've been like we're looking for that recipe of like what

the video needs to go forward. And we have Joey Molanaro who is just the most talented voiceover guy like we've ever had a bar still. It's crazy. The guy can do any voice we ask him to. And we're trying to find like what are like what is our home run area where like we know if we just like do this it's going to work and it's not going to like it's not going to seem like whatever.

It's like if it's our brand. And I think the one thing with him, he has so many different. voices is that we found that wherever we are in the world and whatever the style of the video is, that's what he's going to emulate. So like people are saying like, oh, they loved his like planet earth type narration in the first one. And that fits that type of golf course. It feels like we were on Mars at Tobacco Road. You have all these crazy mounds and it looks like a place, like it looks like a planet earth type place. And now we're at Pinehurst, which is like a whole different vibe. And it's got like that southern like history to it. And like he's going to do a,

a voice like that and just wait until we get to Australia. Like that's what having a guy like that is in our back pocket. He's like a weapon. No matter where we go in the world, we can have that unique voice that also matches what we're filming, which is like awesome. I mean, how many people can say that their videos can have a guy that can change all the voices in the world and sing. It's so cool.

So that's really what we've been doing. We've been going back and forth with the voiceovers and everybody's got a lot of shit going on, obviously, with different jobs and trying to get this stuff done, trying to hone in on what we want that voice to be. And yeah, I mean, we're, I know all the people out there, uh, listening. They love kind of behind the curtain of people behind the curtain type stuff. And like, imagine you're just us and you have all this cool footage and then you're figuring out how to like put it together into the coolest video you possibly can.

That's literally what we're doing. Like we didn't, we didn't go to fucking school for this. We're just like trying to figure out what'll make the coolest video and talking amongst ourselves having him. And we're a comedy brand, right? We're not a fucking, we're a comedy brand. We're Barstle sports. Like this is not coming from CBS.com.

We're not trying to like, you know, we're doing our version. We're showing you the golf courses. We're trying to make funny, add funny commentary to it. And I think it's honestly, like, there's a teaser out there, which actually Brendan's going to have to send to me again because I don't know what happened to it.

I tried to watch it last night. There's a teaser out there about Pioneers that we made that, like, I'm pretty sure Pioneers is just going to take and use as like their, their propaganda. It'll be on their website. When you go to piner's just going to be the first video that pops up. And then also like laugh out loud funny like incorporating us idiots like standing in snake pits. It's just it's such a perfect promo to show like what this project is because it shows the amount of work that gets put into it.

And then also it just shows how fucking stupid we are on the golf course and also shows how incredible pioneers is. Not just like number eight. The entire fucking property. It's 40 seconds and it's like the best video I've ever seen. Yeah. It is. It is so fucking good. And I did just say we didn't go to school for this.

but we also have Brendan Ebug who like literally went to journalism school and has all these insane degrees to edit and he's the one working on this for the for that promo he legit just like invented the music that works for that promo and Jake was there filming the entire goddamn thing and he's been collaborating with ebug who's been collaborating with us Frankie you've been editing videos for four or five years you put a ton of your input and sort of like creative direction towards it then we've got Joey on the narration can't wait for it to come out threat was there I was there.

Lurch was not. So it's just, it's an awesome, awesome video series. You guys are going to love it. I'll join you in Australia. It's true. You did.

And we had some great matches down in Australia. So there's a lot of cool stuff coming out. I'm giddy just fucking talking about it. I'm glad we brought it up again. But Pinehurst number eight's first, then Pinehurst number two, then Pioneer's number four, the cradle.

And you're going to get like a real good look at the Pinehurst three courses, four courses that we got to play, just like you did at Tobacco Road. We're just focused on making it like Pinehurst tea. We made Tobacco Road. tobacco roadie and now we're going to make the pioneer stuff tobacco road my buddy said like i loved being able to see every single hole yesterday who i play with and he'll like construct he'll give me

like constructive criticism on the podcast and stuff and videos like sometimes if i go i was a little too long dragged out i stopped watching it whatever he's like i watched beginning to end the whole entire thing because i wanted to see i wanted to see hole 18 as much as i wanted to see whole one because like i've never seen that golf course before and i want to see what it looks like regardless of what happens in between, like, what kept me there is, like, how entertaining it is to watch the golf course, like, see each hole. Because, like, how often do you get to do that? Like, yeah, you can go look at, like, their website and, like, go, like, look at pictures, but like, this is a flyover. You feel like Superman. Yeah. And that's the best compliment you can

get, right? Like, what's up, guys, by the way? Like, 35 minutes. Who's sitting there watching right? Like, 35 minute video, you watch the entire thing. Like, that's the best compliment you can get. Am I always saying with, like, editing and more of a peek behind the curtain. And I always say this like, we always say this when we're editing our other videos is like, if someone someone's going to sit there and watch a 21 minute video. Why not just like make it 30? Like if you have more content and like you want to show every hole, like you need 30 minutes to show 18 holes of footage.

Like so like if you're going to make it that, like you might as well make it the 30, 35 minutes because if someone's sitting there for 18, 19, 21 minutes, they've already committed to watching this video. So you might as well get all the content in there while you have them. You're not just going to like it's either a five minute video or a 30 minute video. There's no like reason to cut it in between. I've always noticed that, um,

the years that we've been doing it. Like sometimes I'd grind to like go from like 19 to 16 minutes. I'm like, what am I doing here? You think the person's like, attention span stopped at 16? They couldn't go another three minutes. You very sat there for 16 minutes. Right. So look,

we've talked up and been in this video series for months now ever since we recorded it in November. And it's here. You saw the tobacco road version. Pinehurst is about done, about ready to be launched. Keep your eyes and ears peeled for notifications on that. And once the Pioneer's number eight goes,

live, we'll roll out the other two or three as well, and then we'll get into Australia, and you all be very happy. So everybody, have a lovely rest of the week. Have a lovely weekend. I hope you guys get out and play some golf. A lot of golf's open. I think 47 maybe states, maybe even more. Golf's open. It's considered an exercise now that is acceptable with social distancing rules. So play a little golf. Have fun. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.