Fore Play - Are We On The Record?

Episode Date: October 18, 2022

We’re in a video game (seriously). Keegan Bradley gets emotional after winning on the PGA Tour. Brooks Koepka wins on LIV, and he’s buying his brother a Lambo? All-around cool guy Fred Couples is victorious on the Champions Tour. Phil Mickelson is in the news after his comments about LIV, the PGA Tour and his involvement (or lack thereof, according to him) with Alan Shipnuck’s book. How many people had to exist and reproduce for your life to happen? Could the Fore Play Podcast take down a real live bear in a fight? And much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, four play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. There was this period of Phil being a little subdued, like he got kind of spanked after the Allen Shipbuck interview. That period is officially over. Yeah, I mean, if we're comparing the fact that he's on one side and Tiger Woods is on the other and he thinks he's on the winning side, he's never been on the winning side. He's never been on the winning side of anything that Tiger Woods has been on the opposing side of him ever. Like legitimately, he's never been on the winning side of that. forward play brought to you by barsoe sports presented by chevy for the rest of the entire year

maybe forever represented by chevy by evs the fact that they're for everyone everywhere the blazer the silverado the whole deal chevy great uh biggest news in the world um golf world world well the whole world really is we're in a video game we are in a pGA tour two k 23 this news hit our desk came across our desk as frank you would say a few months ago i think the reaction that i saw everybody have on the internet last week was the reaction that all had when we heard it, which was like, what the fuck are you talking about? We are literally characters that you can play with in the video game. I believe that feature will be released in a few months. We did the whole face scan, which I'm sure we're going to get into. But yeah, we are

officially going to be characters you can use in PGA Tour 2K23 along with Tiger Woods, Justin Thomas, Kalamoraka, Will Zola Taurus, Justin Rose, Andrew Shoffley, John Rom, Tony Fienow, Steph Curry, Michael Jordan, Hundred Thieves is in it, Dude Perfect is in it. and four play is in it. Before we jump in, I want to say that I think, yes, how far we've come with the brand and Barstow Sports is a big credit to this, but really Frankie and Trent, because Frankie and Trent over the last year, you guys went balls deep in PJ Tour 2K21 to the point where you're doing like 15-hour live streams. Frankie spent years of hours or hundreds of hours building golf courses. You guys went all in on this video game without us really

getting a ton of return with the society with the whole deal. And I think that that somehow led to us being in a video game. We all grew up with video games. So in terms of pinch yourself moments, I think for me, this is one of the craziest things that ever happened that we're actually in this video game. Yeah, it's definitely way up there. It's, um, it's really something that we never thought would happen. Like, um, I remember playing like Tiger Woods earlier, just golf games early on in the 2000s, mid 2000s and then fast forward 15 years and here we are and we're going to be included in a video game it's it is the response has been incredible and it is funny I was I was telling this the news came out Tuesday of last week and I was in the office watching Bachelor with Ria and Fran and I just

sort of offhand I was telling them the story of how we went and they had the trailer with all the cameras and it was so crazy and I was telling the whole story and I was talking about how we each twin in there individually and they were like hold on like one second you're going to be in a video game like we've known for so long now that it it was like you don't remember how big of the the news is because you're like holy shit we're going to be in a video game so when people found out they found out Tuesday the tweet went out somebody was like hey these guys are going to be in a video game and people like what the fuck are you talking about so it was nice to be reminded just how big of a deal it is because it's a huge deal yeah no I think it's a big one for the other people

kind of give you perspective. I saw the Fidelberg, I think it was, tweet it was like, holy shit, this is fucking incredible. This is awesome. I had a lot of friends be like, wait a minute. You're going to be in a video game. For me, this is the craziest thing of all time because I got this news right after I joined.

Unbelievable timing. Right. So you didn't earn it. So I'm just kidding. No, I didn't. I was just about to say. I was just about to thank you guys. I didn't earn it.

I mean, like a month ago, I had like 600 followers on Instagram. I was like a very normal person with like somewhat normal job. Then I take this barstool job. I go on my bachelor party in Vegas and I get an email that says you're going to be a playable game and a playable character in the video game. And I remember in the email, it was bolded. I'll never forget the email. And I remember turning to my brother. I was like, is this some sort of fucking joke?

What kind of simulation am I living in? So I go from being in the media center being a very straight-laced journalist to one month later being a playable character in PGA Tour 2K. So I did think it was a joke for a really long. time. I thought Brennan Jones was like he, because he was filming us a lot when we were talking about it. Like he was saying like, hey, what do you guys, how do you guys feel about being the video game? And he'd have the camera out. And I was like, this dude, is he just going to put together all this footage fucking with us and then is going to put it out at some point? I don't think he would actually do that. But I'm so insecure that at a certain point I was like,

this is a total joke and it's not actually going to happen. It would have been hilarious and super fair because it's totally ridiculous on the face. Yeah, this is fake life stuff. There's no, there's no way around it and i was just kidding dan you've definitely earned it on your own way that's why you're on the podcast but it's going to be a fun it's going to be a fun way of showing people just how good this game is this is an amazing move by 2k because we're going to play it anyway why not have this resurgence a couple months in after like the hype is already gone from the release that now in like maybe December or january whenever they were thinking about releasing this we're all going to get back into it and like four plays going to be coming into the game we've been having

talks with them forever about how to get integrated with this game because we knew that that we loved it. And whenever we back a product that we genuinely love, like, I wouldn't be playing it for 17 hours trying to get a hole in one if I genuinely hated the game. Like, I love the physics behind it. I think it's so cool, like the way it actually bounces like a real golf ball. You have to bend it. You have to fade it. You have to work the, you know, the wind that's coming in, like hitting out of the rough is different than hitting out of the fairway. We fell in love with all that stuff. So we had all these talks like, we should have our shirts in there. We should have our hats in there. Like, yeah, we'll figure it out. And then this year we get an email being like, We're just going to do it all. We're not going to just put the hats and we're not just going to put the shirts and we're going to put you guys in, which is fucking insanity.

It's kind of weird how just a normal operational day type email we got. It was like, you guys got a couple of swipe up today for like Roman at Roman swipes. And then you're in the video game. Like they're going to literally scan your whole body. You're going to be like key features in the video games. There's only like 12 people in the whole game. You guys ran it. And then like we're going to have the merch.

You're like, wait, what the fuck? What are you talking about? We're part of that generation. Like my whole childhood from middle school through college was around video games. We like played sports. We watched sports and we played video games. We didn't go outside as much. We didn't play tag or fucking capture the flag.

It's like we played video games. We played Halo. We played golf, hockey and FIFA. We played fucking everything that you could possibly play. And then now we're all of a sudden in this video game. And I remember a handful of years ago people talking a lot about because we spoke on this show a ton about how we were in limbo with golf video games. And people would hit us up a lot. At the time, it was called like the golf club is basically what 2K has become.

And people were like, this game is awesome. It's the future. But it was a very niche crowd. It was almost like golf Twitter version of video games where it was like people love the golf courses. You could create golf courses. The golf play was extremely realistic. But it was pretty niche. People weren't that mainstream about it.

And then 2K21 came out and the golf course part made a lot of sense. Frankie made a couple of golf courses. And you guys got super into the game. We created the society, which is maybe the biggest society in the history of golf video games. There's like hundreds of thousands of people. And now all of a sudden this game's got Tiger Woods. It's got us. You could create all your own golf courses.

It's got a ton of golf courses. It's just going to be nuts. So it's phenomenal that this game is out. I can't wait to immerse myself in it. I'm going to be back next week after we get back for Taylor &, media day i got the xbox x series which alx bush has been dialed me in on which i even know fucking existed um so we're diving all in on pj torque two k twenty yeah and uh butter's bay is in the game knives creek is in the game you can search both

those it has a um parentheses four play next to it so you know for any impostors that try and build something that's similar to it or make it look like it or just try and get some clicks we also have the barstool golf society on pc playstation and xbox so make sure when you go to societies you are joining the barstool golf one it has a B with the crossed, we couldn't get the cross T logo, but we got the cross golf clubs underneath it. So it's a green emblem. You join the Barstall Gals Society. If you're new to this game because you want to get it that Michael Jordan's into, Tiger Woods is in it and the four play guys are in it, and this is your first time playing it. You go to competitive. It says competitive on it. There's all these different modes.

And competitive has the societies. You join a society and essentially it's a online league that we will determine what the tournaments are. We'll play like three rounds at a golf court. I'll pick a name of the tournament. We'll set all the parameters around the rules and the regulations and stuff. And then you play. It keeps a live leaderboard about on your stats. And then you can see everyone that you're playing against how they're doing through the amount of holes that you've played. And after three rounds or four rounds, whatever we end up picking, there's going to be a champion.

So it's super fun. We got 100,000 people in each console last year, which was just fucking insanity that we're playing in these things. We didn't keep up with it towards the end of the game because PGA Tour 2K21 was out for like two years. And it was like every week setting a new tournament was just fucking insanity. So we're going to be doing it this year. Though, obviously we're going hard in this game. So it's going to be a lot of fun. I think also just the way it was kind of rolled out, we didn't know if we were going to announce that we were in the game.

Because we had known about this obviously for a couple weeks. And then usually it was a weird feeling. Well, it was a weird feeling having news broken about you. You know what I mean? Like I've been on the other side of that a number of times where I tweet something and it's always super fun. we've talked about the rush that comes with breaking news is fucking unbelievable. This one was seeing news about you and not knowing whether to comment on it was sort of a strange human experience that I hadn't had yet. I actually thought that was the best way for the news to come out.

Like the other way is we control it. We do an announcement video and we're like, hey, holy fucking shit, look at this. But instead, Mark Burns, who I don't know who that is, but his tweet got crazy action. He basically leaked the news and that made it feel. cooler. I mean, it's a very cool thing. Oh, yeah. But it's very cool to have something leaked about like something cool that you're doing. And it's like, oh, boy, look at this. I thought that was the perfect way for it to come out. It really makes you aware of how strategic and political people are that are knowledgeable about this type of thing and PR and spin and how valuable it is that they do things

this way on purpose. Like they literally will analyze news that they are in control of and how it should go out so that it'll have the best impact without having a negative impact on them. Like people fucking do this shit in Washington and in sports and like in finance all the time. And that was a really good exercise I feel like for me because I was I thought the exact same thing. I was like man, the fact that a journalist, I believe Mark, I've seen this Mark Burns guy pop up a bunch. I think he does like sports business basically type stuff. He tweeted it like a veteran. He had the Capitol News and I mean, he was ready to go.

He's good. seen him pop up a bunch. I know Dave's retweeted him sometimes. So he's good. This is kind of his beat when he comes out with this type of stuff. Couldn't have gone better for us because it made it look like we weren't trying to get it out there, which we weren't. We even know we had to go on the behind the scenes.

We were like, are we allowed to be tweeting about the fact that we're in this video game? Because everyone's tweeting about how we're in it. And it just kind of worked out. Couldn't have been better for us because like you said, it made it look like people were actually leaking real news about something involving us, which they were, which is a really weird spot to be in.

I loved all the haters coming out. That's such a good sign. The fact they couldn't understand it. It's not even that I dislike these people. I don't even know them. I'm just so baffled at how uninformed and stupid they come off. Like when they're like, I can't believe they're putting them in the game. What do you mean you can't believe they're put?

Like look at the action. Look at the engagement. Look at how many people care that we're going to be in this game. And it's not just us. The fact that we're on there with 100 thieves, Nate shot, our fucking guy. The fact that dude perfect, they're massive. They're fucking hitting shots with tennis. brackets at the Amen corner.

Like they're putting, you know, entities that have huge followings and people that are with, with rabid fan bases in the game. No shit they're putting them in the game. And there's one guy. I can't remember who exactly it was. There was some guy with that, that I'd never, literally never heard of. Not the will guy. Some other guy was like, he couldn't fathom that there weren't more pros in the game.

And I'm like, well, I think the pros, A, they come with more, it's more red tape to get them in the game. You have to pay them to be in the game. Let's just call them. We don't need to be paid. I mean, we'll be paid to promote the game. We don't need to be paid to be put in the game. Like, we get it.

We're trying to be big and clout and the whole deal. That's our fucking job. But he's like, I'm just super disappointed that I don't have more pros. And I saw somebody responding being like, if you think Mito fucking Pereira being in the game is going to get more downloads and more action, people are going to play with him more than Trent trying to break 90, then you're a fucking idiot. And that's basically my takeaway was like, I don't dislike these people. I enjoy that they have their own viewpoint. They can be different than mine and ours. That's totally fine.

I enjoy respectful discourse. That's great. But when you just come off like you don't understand it, then you're a fucking idiot. That's like, I just can't. I'm like, how does your brain not work? And then you look and it's like, well, clearly your brain doesn't work in this because you're not successful in this. You don't have a following.

You don't get any engagement. You don't have like. So if this is the job that you're trying to do, work clearly by every measure doing it a billion times better than you are. So you're upset. And that's the same case every time we go through one of these cycles. The same facts come become very obvious, very clear. And I think that's what we saw last week. And I enjoyed every second of it. And to speak to how big the news was, I mean, the text that I think we were all getting from different people, people at Barstool, when big news happens at Barstool all the time. And the fact that this jumped out to a lot of folks, the people like Pat McAfee was commenting on

everything. Pat McAfee is what, you know, as big of a sports media figure as there will be over the next 20 to 30 years. And he was commenting and texting being like, holy shit, this is amazing. So, so it was very humbling. It was very kind of like, I can't believe we're in this fucking video game. And now it's going to be very funny and very, it's going to be very, we're going to be very vulnerable because people are going to send clips and images of them doing really bad, dumb, embarrassing shit with us, with like, re, you know, created version. digital versions of us and that's going to happen probably until the end of time now. Yeah.

The response I got was like, hey, are we going to be able to try to break 90 with your character? And I'm, I want, like, I know, like, you've hear in the past like NFL players talk about their Madden rating being like, my speed better be 94 or I'm going to throw a shit fit. I'm actually the opposite. Like, I need my numbers to be down. So it is difficult to break 90. Now, I don't know how much power we have in the, regards to like how they put the game together.

But I am making a public plea and I'm probably going to try to talk to somebody behind the scenes and I'm going to say make my character horrible to the point where it's very difficult to break 90 because I want people to play and try to break 90 with my character and have it be difficult. I don't want my, you know, my driving distance to be like an 80 and I can hit it 290. Like that's what someone shooting 67 with Trent Ryan. You just don't.

I don't. I really, I really think it be a really challenge though. like who has who holds the career pjator 2k 23 record with trent ryan like what is that record should be like you know 84 and not 64 i thought it should be like this for everything like they should also this is loud too by the way my audio probably just changed for everyone my computer once we get back into the streaming world like i set everything up for 2k the other night and i'm ready to go i got all these fucking things hooked up i got these game switchers it gets the xbox into the computer and i got these overlays and all these. I got a piece of corn flying around with Trent's face on it every time we

we go to a new scene. I got this whole thing dialed in. And then my computer just crashed. This is what happened last winter when I would do this. We would do the podcast. My computer would just turn off. The recording turned off. So my audio did not work, I guess, for the first half of this show. But yes, I will say that they should make it very realistic for all of us. Like for Trent, I mean, for rigs, the accuracy on the dries, you should have to get it perfectly in the white or else the ball goes off the planet. Like the, like people should have to use two iron off the T just to get it in the fairway. And then everything else can be more realistic to like how good you are on the greens and stuff. But I don't want this to be a simulation of like, like an arcadey simulation. I want this to be

a realistic simulation. I want them to to hate themselves and hate the game of golf, almost turn the game off, rage quit from playing with our characters because that's how we play the game of golf. We don't want to play anymore when we're done. We're so bad. So I want you to make sure that this game is so realistic that people are so mad after playing with us. That's how, that's what's going to make the good stuff happen. I thought the pros reactions were really funny. Max Homa tweeted, I can't believe I'm not in this game, but you guys are. That really hurts me, which I thought was hilarious. And I was, I got a text from Colin Mori Kala that said, if any of your, because his power ranking was 69, which is objectively funny. And he said, if any of your guys' power rankings are ahead of mind, I'm going to

file a complaint with the designers of the game. So people are, people are. People are. People are. taking notice, but it will be interesting because the power rankings I saw were kind of like, I think MJ had a more power than Colin Morikawa. So the rankings, I'm very curious to see like where we stand because if Colomori Kaw's power ranking is a 69, then ours should be in, you know, in the 50s

or the 40s, but we'll see. The rankings are going to be funny. We need to be terrible, right? Yeah, terrible. Morikawa's in the 69. Like, I mean, on anything. I should be a 15. If Colomorcawana 69, it should be a 15 on there.

way down there. You have to be the best player in the game. The guy that wins one of our society tournaments every week by shooting a billion under should be like he has to play the most impressive round of 2K ever with one of our characters. He's got to play 80 or 90 or whatever.

It's got to be a shocking round of golf. And that will be really, really, really fun if they can get it that way. And then, yeah, I mean, taking our characters around all these world-renowned courses and the courses that people are going to build and Butter's Bay. It's just wild.

It's fun. It's cool. I'm excited for it. And there's much more to come. Frankie, I am going to need your help. You once asked me on this podcast to come over and help you move a bed. If we're going to stream on 2K,

I've got this 77-inch TV on the wall. And I cannot hook up my Xbox, my new Xbox, without taking that TV off of the wall. So I'm going to need you at some point. point to come over and we're going to take this TV off the wall. It's not a one-man job. If I were going to do that, I'm going to break that TV and then I'm going to be, I'm not going to have a TV.

So you're hooking it up to the big TV. Yeah, I think so. I think I would like it on the biggest screen possible. So your big TV is hanging on the wall right now and you can't access the HDMI without taking it off basically? That's right. I remember when I had the task grab a guy come over and put the TV up, he was like, all right, man, do you have anything else you need to plug in?

Because once this goes on the wall, it's going to be really difficult as a, person who lives alone to get more HDMI cords plugged into the back. And I was like, I'm good. And I wasn't good because, like comes off. It's like very much against the wall.

No, it's not like, it doesn't have the bracket where you can go left and right. It's just very much on the wall. And I, I screwed up because at the time, I had a sound bar that I didn't plug in. So that's just been sitting there collecting dust.

And now I've got this new Xbox that I would love to play 2K on. And I just, I can't get my TV off the wall. So, Frank, at some point, I got you. I'm going to need you. your big strong muscles to come over.

Yeah. We'll get that thing dialed in. I think I'm going to need, yeah, when I get, so next week after we're doing Termine Media Day, when I get back, I'm, I am going to have to do what basically Trent did. I'm going to have to get my whole TV set dialed in with the Xbox, with the whole thing, and we're going on in. I mean, this winter, we are going to stream and we are going to be video game guys. And it's, it's an amazing kind of coincidence, I guess, that we started talking about this a few weeks ago,

because I was trying to, I was, I was, I was just bored back in Arizona. I had some downtime. I didn't want to be outside running pack and doing shit. I just wanted to sit in my ass and play video games. I fired up the Xbox one. It like doesn't work because it's so old. And we were talking Halo, uh, COD, which people were chirping us for not calling it Cod, but I still always call it COD.

So, um, and now we're going to get fucking 2K fired up. So I'm excited for video games. I'm excited for this resurgence. Like you kind of mentioned something last week, Trent, that my buddies and I used to do every couple years, which, we would get back into Halo. We would, you know,

and it was now, people are more, more of the crew, have families as a kid. You can't just come home from work and play Halo like we used to be able to. But there was that, there was that phase where even five,

six, seven years after college, people came back. Yeah, maybe they had a significant other and they had job. But like, they had a two or three hour window every night where they were like, eh,

it's Tuesday, it's Wednesday. It's Wednesday. It's not on. Like, let's fucking play Halo for three hours. And we would do that a lot. And it was the most.

it was the most fun time ever. So now, this winter, we're getting back into video games. I'm just waiting for my first text from Frankie and Trent telling me that they're streaming and they're inviting me. It's going to happen. We haven't. We haven't. We haven't.

I know you haven't. I'm just, we'll wait a couple. We'll wait a couple of streams. We don't want you right off the rip, but you know, you'll get in the next. Definitely don't want me screwing up the first. You'll get in the mix for sure. There's no doubt about that.

You're, I mean, having two of us, I will say, Frankie, he's just pulling levers over there. I don't know what his setup is like to, to like get my screen. his screen, all of us playing together, all of it timed up. He's just running around with duct tape, like trying to put things together. Like we just saw it with this. He dropped out of the podcast. He, because he had it all set up for one thing. And if you change one thing, it all melts down.

And it's a nightmare. And then Frank, we used to spend hours last year because we couldn't hear each other. Like, like, some, I was like nothing has changed from Tuesday to Wednesday, but something has changed digitally on my computer. I didn't touch anything. The last time we saw each other, we just logged off. and then we log back on and now all of a sudden we can't hear each other. So what is that problem?

And then we would go through each thing. And I would like re-download fucking softwares. And it was a nightmare. So we're going to dial that in this year for sure. Alex Bush, our behind the scenes guy who is on this podcast right now. He's a fucking nerd. He's a big win bills.

He's a huge video game guy. And I think he is going to be very helpful in holding our hands through things that are pretty easy, but things that we can't figure out. So hopefully it'll be a little bit more seamless this time. Yesterday, Riggs, yesterday in the office, or not yesterday last week, Alex was like, man, when Riggs tries to talk about video games, he sounds like a grandpa. I agree. I'm aware of that.

That's why I'm trying to talk it out, so I feel I can speak about it less like I'm 87 years old when I'm talking about video game. Yeah, I don't want to, I'm a little nervous about screwing up the, the significant technological undertaking. So when you guys have that dialed in and you're ready to go and you feel like you can just add one more, you let me know. Okay, definitely. Uh, Chevy, Chevy EVs, reminder, go check them out. If you're just bored right now, right? I know you're bored. You got your internet browser up, whatever you use. Just go, just go look up Chevy EVs and just scroll through there.

It's fun. You can, um, you could start to reserve your own, your own cars. You can play with the colors, the interior. Um, you could see the different options that they got on the EVs and you can see how badass they look. The infatement screens, the infotainment screens. The infotainment screens. are incredible. Evotainments. I love that. I lease is coming up in February, I believe, and I just have to get a Chevy,

I think. I mean, I've looked at so many Chevys online from doing these ad reads and having this partnership and them being the presenting sponsor that I don't know that I can go to another brand and just purchase their car for the next three years. I think I have to go to Chevy

because they make a really good selling point on how good their cars are. You know what I mean? Like the ads are working. The reads are working. They worked on me. I look every night. And you've been itching to dip your toe in the electrical car world. I have been talking a lot about it. You think it's very cool and it is.

And it would be cool to get one just to see how fucking awesome it is. I think I'm going to get the Chevy logo on my golf bag. Whoa. Okay. I love the logo. I'm looking at the front of this Blazer EV right now. I'm on their website. This is like red maroon one, which is awesome.

Just imagine that logo like on your bag, dude, like right above your name there. It's fantastic. Sponsored athlete. I'm going to get that logo. embroidered on my golf bags. I got tattooed on my arm. I mean, fuck. I'll just get, I'll just get like a rock in like kind of, uh, artsy,

cursive so that people don't know that it's a Chevy commercial. Me and Alex Bush one night and we were at Big Cedar, we were Googling, uh, uh, Chevy, like a rock hats. They got some phenomenal Chevy like a rock hats. I bet they got the merch game for like a rock is pretty good. Phenomenal. You're going to love it. So anyways, Evie's for ever.

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Kegan Bradley. So a really cool clip. Kegan Bradley wins first time in four years. Emotional guy always has been. Whereas his heart on his sleeve, the whole deal. his little facetime, I believe that he had with his wife back home, crying, showing the emotion. I fucking love it. I love it.

We talk so much about golfers, roboticness. And I get that. Robotickness is an asset out there in golf the way Patrick Cantler. Patrick Cantley, Patrick Cantley, Zander Schaftly, the way that they play. That probably lends itself to playing better, more consistent golf when you're just, your heart is just like this, flat line, you're not up, you're not down. You just go through it. You're consistent, blah, blah, blah.

but it's way more fun to watch. Kagan, somebody like Kagan Bradley, even if you can't stand the fidgetiness, or if you're watching Jordan Speed, he can't stand the fact that he's always talking to his ball, and it sounds like he's whining half the time of it, infinitely more entertaining to watch. Same with Kegan Bradley, infinitely more entertaining to watch.

You guys are extremely emotional out there. He gets into everything, and then when he wins after playing lights out down the stretch, he said he played like the best whole of his life, gets the W, the emotions afterwards. Kegan, one of the original friends of the program, People's golfer 2.0, I believe he was right after Jim Renner. So, congrats to Keegan Bradley.

Congratulations to Keegan Bradley. Shout out to Ricky Fowler. Finished second. He was there all week. It was supposed to be his tournament. Everybody wanted that to be Ricky's tournament. You can tell, like, on Saturday night, and it always happens, like, near the end of a tournament, people start to be like, all right, this is the guy who we think is going to win.

So let's pull up all the statistics about how bad they've been for the last couple of years and let's shove it in everyone's faces. And Ricky got that treatment on Saturday. and then Keegan Bradley just won it. But yeah, Ricky, I mean, Ricky played well. He finished second. He finished sixth in the first event of the year. So obviously, Ricky made a ton of changes in the off season.

He said doses to Joe Scoveron, who's been his caddy for a long time. Mutual breakup, everyone's friends there. There's no bad blood. Joe Scoverron since caddy landed Tom Kim's bag, so things are going well for him. Ricky's got a new caddy on the bag. He left John Tilleries, no longer a stable mate of Trent Ryan, gone back to Butch Harman. Are you pretty happy he didn't win? part of you're happy um the till gang has no comment till laid the foundations for this comeback

bro come on it's fired tillery now he's playing great no no fuck you follow any i mean he's been playing the best golf he's played in five years is there any have you talked to tillery about this we all know that change of scenery is a real thing in sports like whether it be a baseball player football player golfer i genuinely think that's what's going on here it was just like He just hated the scenery with Tilly? No, I'm just saying that at a certain point Like, it was just gross. Maybe if it's not working, you guys better watch it.

Okay. This is my guy looking around me and like, oh, this is such better scenery now. I just get to like play golf. Not good enough to win. But if all I'm saying is that it's, I do think it's a change of scenery thing. It does. It has almost nothing to do with Tiller. Have you thought about like you'd break 90 if you change scenery with Tiller?

Don't do that. Should we switch to brush? I'm just asking it. Like if we get to like two or three years of not breaking 90, at some point we might need a scenery change. Do we know that? The only way I have a coaching change is if Tilly fires me. There's no way I'm riding with my guy forever. As long as he allows me to be in his stable, as long as I'm not ruining his reputation to the point where it's actually affecting his life.

And he wants to get rid of me. Until that happens, I'm sticking around. I'm not going anywhere. I, the ups and the downs, the thick and the thin, that's me. All right, with my swing coach, John Tilleri. This weekend, it kind of hit me. Ricky looks old, man. Like, Ricky, I know he's not young and he hasn't been young for a while by golf standards.

He's 33 years old now, but I don't know if it's the last year or two. I don't know. I don't know if I'm just saying, I don't know if it's that he's not wearing the same outfits anymore. I don't know if it's because he cut the hair or whatever. But Ricky's looking like someone who's in his, like, low to mid-30s, and it's kind of fucking with my head. But great to have him back playing good golf because. Go ahead. Sorry.

No, you go ahead. No, you go. No, no, that's it. That's all I got. Bob makes him a puke. Well, we had said a couple years ago when things weren't going well that he needs to change everything. We wanted him to start going by Rick. We want him to wear black every time blacked out all the time and just be Rick.

Like that way I think that's the way that things turn around. Now he's turned it around anyway. But he still does wear the orange on Sunday, which is. Yeah, he wears the orange, but like he'll be a little more tasteful with it. It'll be like orange cut pants or a hat is. orange it's not the head-toe stater boy look like ryan uh shekler oh shekler sickler sickler sheckler you know the old puma house we had it out there we know what he used to look like i mean it was the most iconic look of all time but i want to say that it started to get childish it started to get real

childish as a 33 year old to start wearing a creamicle on sundays and like all the little kids are running around he was the number one autograph guy coming off i get the whole thing but like come on at some point we had to turn it around we had to start going by rick we had to start wearing fucking black and he started playing better. We got a lot of tweets when he started changing it. Like he started looking like a Rick out there. Slick Rick was back. He changed everything about him.

He's got married. He's got kids and stuff now. It's like, this is a new guy. No more creamcicle. George Carlin is a perfect example. If he wants to go to George Carlin route, George Carlin was this happy clean cut guy who wore a suit on all these talk shows. And then he dropped acid and started wearing black all the time.

And people were like, this guy is fucking the real deal. And everything changed. Now George Carlin is one of the. the greats, one of the greats. If Ricky Fowler, I don't know if he has to drop acid, but if he wants to start wearing black and being like, I'm a new person, I have evolved, I think people will be super into that. Like a Matthew McConaughey move, right? Go from being the joke comedy actor to being Dallas Biers Club. The early, the early iteration of Ricky Fowler was a character. There's no way he can deny that. He very much bought into this

like whole entire system of him being like the pretty boy. He looked like Zach Ephron with the hair coming out. He wore an orange creamicle outfit. And now if he's going to go with the character route, let's change character. We're 33 years old now. We've got the family. We're going black. We're going all jet black. This is a fucking business decision. And we're here to murder people. And that's what he's doing. I really like it. He's getting older. He's changing his character. And we're fans of it. I'm a fan of Ricky Fowler and his changes. Yeah, a little bit of Leo a little bit. I mean, he's a pretty boy painting chicks. And then next thing, you know, he's trying to get an Oscar. He gets fucked by a bear. It's like you got a

That's exactly right. Next thing you know. Face down by a bear. It's all the time. At a certain point, you just got to, you got to evolve and you got to, Frankie's right. You can't be that cremcicle character your whole life. Because imagine if Ricky is 50 years old and still kind of doing the cream sickle thing on Sundays. And it's like, no, man, we got to, we did that.

The checks were huge. I'm sure they were huge. I'm sure they're still huge in terms of advertisements. but if you really want like if you have the drive to win a major and be up there with your buddies who are now just stalwart to the top of the world golf rankings you might have to change something you might have to change everything and that's what's going to work there are guys that don't have characters Justin Thomas and Jordan Smith have just been the same exact person since the time we saw them grace our TVs I don't think you'd be able to tell the difference one way or another so I mean it is cool that he is a character that he can change his outfits he can change his costume and it's a noticeable difference but i mean you can't tell me the difference if i just showed you from afar a picture from of justin thomas from this year and from six years ago there's no way you see any difference he was fatter okay but like he hasn't changed he talks about it too he talks about it too he's like i look at me i was 30 pounds more back then right we have this neck problem i think that's just

genetics something's going on we we get it right here in the face t5 finish for saw hit fiala another another great for front of the program so that was like He's 52 in the world now, getting close to be in top 50. That's a matter of time. Oh, great. That's our guy. We're going to do a scramble against him. I feel it.

I can sense it. It's coming. And I hope that we win. And we got to do a chess game. We got to figure out some kind of chess game. Do we ever find an opponent for him? Well, he got, he's a little insider nugget here. I heard that he was doing some interviews with a to be released piece of content that everyone's very excited for where he was talking a lot about the chess stuff, the Netflix show.

Yeah, somebody hijacked. hijacked the chest thing from us. I saw the tour. The tour definitely. Yeah, the tour took the chest thing. I didn't love that. Sorry. I didn't love that.

It's fine. He said he got like 500 challenges. So there's definitely a lot. I don't know if any of pro golfers that put that. I wonder where he got those challenges from. I wonder why that happened. Yeah. Probably just,

probably just his social profile. Or the PGA tour. Saw him walking down the fairway. We're like, wow, I should suggest a match against that guy on fucking chess.com. Yeah. I don't know. But good finish for Sahith.

Brooksie won. Liv. He did. Yeah, we'll get to that. We'll get to a little Brooksie. We've got some Liv stuff to get to. We got Phil Mickelson and all that. You got games to get to.

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I saw the New York Islanders bounce back after losing, I think they lost open. night and then they won like seven million to one or something like that yeah they lost opening night they played a good game Trent Ryan was in the building it was good vibes good atmosphere um fun to be back at UBS we were there all day long we got there at like 3 30 game didn't start till 7 30 it was a marathon of a day game time got us what were you guys doing there so early are you just hanging just hitting bars hitting restaurants there is this really nice

restaurant in brales you BS it's no we didn't start at birelli's but we didn't start at belmont went straight to UBS and there's like I don't even know what that bar is called, but it's a really nice. Yeah, where you can just hang out, get drinks, get dinner, or get food, and then go to the game. Yeah, we had made a full day of it. It was a delight. Full day, game time got us in. It was amazing.

Last minute tickets. My dad went with us. My buddy Andrew went with us. We had a fantastic time. Tough loss. They played really well. It just was one of those things that, that proposal that happened inside in the stands that went viral.

That was the game changer. Luckily, it wasn't a season changer. I did say that I thought that the Islanders would not win a regular season game after that happened. because you just can't get denied the proposal, have the girl run up the stands. She runs away. You're shirtless saying,

please say yes, yes, yes, which is the Islander's goal chant. And then she runs away. You're shirtless now drinking a beer. The whole stadium's looking at you. As this happens, the Islanders give up the game winning goal on the ice.

Everyone's like, boo, boo, boo. There's booze everywhere. It was a mess. Buing the guy, booing the team. It was just like, we can't have that on opening night. So, yes, huge bounce back, seven one win the other night. and we're ready to go.

Game time. We are so, so, into game time, Trent, now that we're just going to be going to every game that we can. Download the GameTime app if you're Trent or Frankie or really anybody out there listening. You want to go to some games, concerts, anything in the event. Go to the account tab, create a login,

redeem code four for $20 off your first purchase terms apply. Download game time, last minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. Use the code for game time, get $20 off your first purchase. So I went to Truis Park last year with a little bit of the Barstwood Classic crowd, And it's in like this battery park type area that there's all kinds of like, it's like its own area around there. Is that sort of what, where the Iowner's new spot is?

There's like restaurants and shit around there? Well, they're building an entire like city walk type place across the street. So that's like a two or three year thing where it's going to be huge restaurants. They're building a hotel. So all that stuff is being built. But right now it's just the building like the UBS arena and then Belmont racetrack is touching it. So you got the racetrack to the right. You've got the hockey arena right in the middle.

middle. You've got the busiest street of Hemsatutermpeck right there. That's great for Borrelli's. I was going to say, it's great for Borrelli's with the foot traffic, isn't it? No, so yeah, you're just, you're off right here with the Borrelli stuff. So Borelli's used to be at the Coliseum. So it's a really sore subject, the more you keep bringing that up. Like, Borrelis used to be across the street from the Coliseumet. I can tell you just snapped a little. Well, they've moved like 20 minutes away. So we don't really get the foot traffic, like we used to the last 60 years. We've been around for 60 years. We've been around for 60 years. They were, they were, the islanders were there for 50 years. They just left us.

You've got to be really good on your feet if you're going to get if you're going to be walking in the Borellies. But, you know, another way for talking about it, if you are coming west, if you're from the eastern side of Long Island, which is like 90% of the Long Island fans, they're not from Belmont or like New York City. That's not where they're coming from. If you want to come, you can just stop at Borelli's before. Get there at like 43530 and then you have your dinner and then you just go down the street to 20 minutes and you get to UBS. There's really nowhere to eat around the stadium. So you can go to Borelli's. You just got to drive there.

Can't walk there, unfortunately. I used to love fucking walking there. Good pizza. Best. It's all the thing they used to do. All right. Moving on, Brooks Keppka, won his first time winning on Liv Gough. Revealed a lot afterwards.

He's talking about his injury and his knee and how he really thought there's a chance he might not play golf again, how the last couple of years have been pretty miserable for him when it comes to golf. And the whole deal, he had a little bit of back and forth with his brother, Chase, about how he said if their team wins and how he's pumped about the team win, he's buying like a Lamborghini and the whole deal. The live golf thing is still just weird. I mean, they were in Saudi Arabia.

There's like, I saw a couple tweets about there. They just weren't, he's in a playoff and there just weren't any spectators in the playoff like none. I mean, they had a like a hospitality thing kind of set up around the 18th green that there were human beings in. But the rest of the golf course, there's no human beings watching. It's just they're playing a playoff for $4 million. And literally no one is out there.

No fans are out there following them. So yeah, it remains to be weird. It also remains to be, in my opinion, like the things that you are seeing that look good and exciting is very much like North Korean controlled media. Like they're the only things that that like are positive about it that you could be is what they're only showing you. Like they're not showing you anything else. That's like what they're releasing and putting out there. And even that doesn't look overly exciting. So the whole thing again, just kind of weird.

Kind of weird Brooks Capka wins because he's always had kind of a weird relationship with the media and with golf and all that. So, congrats to him, I guess. Yeah, I wrote about this in the Monday morning wrap, which just went live at 1030 a.m. Click that shit, read it. Yeah, click it, read it, do that all that good stuff. Yeah, that was weird. That was really, really weird. And I think that conversation that they were having that Brooks and Chase, you mentioned that little back and forth where Brooks was like, oh, I got to buy Chase and Lambo now.

And Chase is like, yeah, lime green. That was just sort of like, what the hell? we doing here kind of situation. You've got Chase Kepka, who by all accounts, is a really nice kid. I actually know Chase a little bit. He's a great guy. The only reason he's playing in live golf is because of his brother, right? So we all know that. His brother wins a playoff while wearing shorts, which I thought just looked weird. It just did. In Saudi Arabia, on a golf course that no one's there, and they're all, no one watched. I think the final round averaged 25,000 viewers. It was like 13,000 for the first couple rounds. And they're joking about how he's just going to buy him a

Lambo because he just made $5 million. It was just like, what's going on here? This is not sustainable. This is not real life. It just felt like a very, very bizarre surreal scene. There was music playing. And it's like music on the golf course is kind of cool when the vibe is right. But when there's nobody out there and it's a professional golf tournament and you just hear some weird like Katie Perry song playing in the background, I think you're just kind of like, what is this? So the whole thing very much. much looked and felt like a proam, except there was like $12 million at stake at the end. So, yeah, I think they're probably looking forward to getting back on U.S. soil.

There will probably be a good amount of people in that Miami event, I would think. It's at Trump. You know, Miami's obviously a huge golf market. They're off this week. It's next weekend. But yeah, I can't imagine that there have to be guys who played in that event who were like, what did I get myself into? What am I doing here?

It's weird. I don't know what I'll say about. way too it almost like looked like i got it almost looks like brooks and them like they they have to be either now or i feel like sometimes like we'll look back in that that moment those clubs would be kind of like like what was i do i mean i guess maybe they won't with all the money but it's like what do you it's it's almost yeah it's just i don't know it's like like like you said dan it's like they're laughing about all this money that they're going to spend on this lambo and stuff and it's like well there's no one watching no one do it that money's just coming straight

from oil. It's not like you earned the money because people are excited about the tournament and watching the tournament. There's all the sponsors you got the money because some Saudi Prince decided that this was a good idea. We've already talked about how they've given up all this stuff about caring about winning. That has no. They don't,

they're essentially businessmen. Do businessmen like talk about where all their money's coming from every time they make an acquisition? Do they like cheers to all that? Like they just kind of go on with their thing. They're just like, yeah, $5 million. going to go buy a Lambo. It's like my life's fucking awesome right now. Yeah, it's just a weird adjustment watching it as a sport. We talked about a little bit last week where, you know, the young kid who won

a couple weeks ago, it's just you don't know the context surrounding it. So yeah, it is like a business. It is there. We don't care about eyeballs. We don't care about how many people are watching. We just get to make money. That's just a weird way to watch sports because we've never seen it that way before. Because sports is an entertainment product. That's right. It's always been an entertainment product. Money's always come from the fans. They're certainly trying to make an entertainment product. Like the people behind the scenes are trying. It's just when there's no fans like you're saying, it's awkward as hell.

But there's not, the players might not be trying, but the league is for sure trying to make it. That's what the, that's what they're trying to do, right? Like, that's why they have a shotgun. That's why they have all this weird things on the on the broadcast. They're trying to change the entertainment value. It's just not working. It is tough. Like that's, they got, they have to pull all the way, all the people from behind the scenes.

I get that like the players, they post about it. And they're like, look at this party we're at, look at this private jet that we're on. But they got their money and they're just like, I'm pretty happy. We can go buy lime green lambos. It's tough to sell a product like that when the players don't seem overly into like making it an entertaining product. Right. I agree. I think what we're learning is that like the entertainment in golf is people down the stretch playing for something that the view.

can tell matters to them. I think that's really the entertainment in golf. You can try all this other shit. You know, you can try like trick shots and top-down. It's never the money. Game of vacation and long drive. And it's like,

and you could try even in FedEx Cup. You could, they've tried it for 10, 15 years, however long it's been, injecting just money and being like, well, I hope they care. And it's helped a little bit.

But at the end of the day, if the guys don't care, but you've had over the years, you've had guys skip playoff events because they're just like, I mean, you know, whatever.

This isn't, this isn't the fucking. masters as hard as you try. I do think that for the most part, the thing that's going to consistently drive entertainment value in the world of golf is being able to tell as the spectator viewer that the golfer in that moment cares a lot and it's affecting how he's playing and he's trying to keep it together. He's trying to hit great shots.

He or she, they're trying to get it done and they just, and it's a grind and we've all been there. We've been under pressure on the first tee if there's just four people watching so you can relate to a degree as a golfer and like they just, you could try the music and all that and that seems cool and like a little bit more fun

for the people playing. But as the viewer, I don't think you're like, you know what, I'm going to watch us now because they got a little Katie Perry on in the background. Like, fuck yeah.

That's not, you know, you're watching because you're like, holy fuck. I heard he's like, he's birdied three in a row and then hit one out of bounds because he's so nervous

and he's trying to win on the PJ tour for the first time and it matters. That's like what he grew up wanting to do. Like that or the masters. Like we all watch the masters because like it's not the highest paying thing it's not like cam smith got more for the players championship but like everybody watches the masters because you know that the masters means the world to everybody

playing in it and if they can win the masters that will change their life forever and it's like that's why you care and it's and like fregy said it's like they're trying to do the entertainment value thing but it just they're just not successful with it yet comparing it to the pGA tour did you guys think the kegan bradley win in a tournament that mattered like took over people's TVs on Sunday. We're acting like the PGA tour is this like incredibly, you know, they capture the hearts of America. I mean, I know all four of us. I think the clip of Kagan crying on the phone with his wife was like went pretty viral. Everybody's, yeah, the clips for sure. Awesome. Yeah, there's clips for sure. I think the only time we see live on Twitter is when we see clips as well.

I'm talking about the actual like live aspect of the PGA tour that's not a major. It's still not very entertaining. Right. But I think that the two things can be true. At all. There is a lot of apathy on the PGA tour. There is a lot of events that seem to sort of, like, did this really matter to the general public? And I definitely think one in Japan that happens in the middle of the night is not one that's especially during the heart of college football and pro football season is not really going

to register on people's radars. It was just something that people didn't see. But I think what Riggs was saying, and I totally agree with, is just like, no one ever watches sports because of how much money the guys are making. And that's the only real distinct. factor of the live events right now. Like the team stuff just, for me at least, it just isn't really catching. It was cool.

There was a novelty about it in the beginning. I just don't think anyone actually cares about the crushers or this or that. Like, I don't think the players care if they're being completely honest. I don't think all these accounts that you're seeing online are not real people or if they are real people, they're not who they say they are. It just doesn't feel like there's anything about live that is bigger or different apart. from all of the money and I just don't think that that's sufficient to drive up fan interest. Now, that's not saying that there aren't too many PJ tour events. There are.

There are way too many PGA tour events. There's too many events that no one cares about. There's about to be another, this one's actually really good this week. But then there's four more fall events that not that many people care about. But there are still that core of PGA tour events that are, you know, Riviera and are Bay Hill and are these ones that happen that aren't in the fall that people do care about. And the reason is not because of the money. right yeah you're right frankie i mean most most pga tour events i don't really care about for sure but i you know i do think it's just say it's tough weekend to talk about like how no one cared

about the the live event when like no one cared about the pgator event because it was impossible to watch like you're saying with everything that's going on it's just a tough weekend for golf viewership so i do think that's like we're hammering home how hard of like a product it is to watch when like i wasn't sitting around watching the pGA tour this weekend with the greatest slate of college football ever this weekend and you had playoff baseball and hockey starting it's like it's a tough week but it's an overarching i think tell on the difference between the two that the guy that won on the pj tour is literally crying on the phone and the guy that won on live is like laughing in a press conference about a little brother at a green like Lamborghini and it's nobody was you know it's just like

there's just a difference and i think over over you know every event it's like clearly people caring that much that they're going to be bawling with their fiance the phone versus people laughing about a Lamborghini is going to make it more compelling to watch the tournament where you know guys are going to cry about it afterwards. I do agree with that. Something that truly didn't register, and we talked about this a little bit before we started recording, was the women's Saudi event that happened this weekend in New York. It was the Aramco series, Ladies European Tour event.

So Aramco is obviously the Saudi state-owned oil company. I think it's the biggest company in the world. They have these events all around the world. So there was one in Saudi Arabia. There's one in Spain. There's one in New York. I know there's some other places. And no one gave the women any crap for playing.

It just sort of happened. No one really noticed. And it just there is such a double standard. I'm not saying that it's a good thing or a bad thing. But we can't pretend that there's not a crazy double standard when it comes to men taking Saudi money and women taking Saudi money. Well, one of Rory's comments that has still gone under the radar because he is like the Prince of the PGA tour was when he basically said, if this is going to be a thing, it might as well be a good thing for golf because they do do the Aramco women's. series. He stated all of these reasons as to why, like, if we're not getting rid of it, let's just at least embrace the fact that it is good for golf because people are talking about

golf and money's coming into golf. So this Aramco series has been talked about before by PGA tour players where it's like, yeah, I mean, like that is something they do. They like do a women's tour that like they play this series and they played where at Ferry Point, which is like a at Ferry Point. It was way more, way more money than the normal LPGA event. Yeah, no, it is interesting. It is a complete double standard when it comes to it. I mean, yeah, I would have loved to, like, was there any talk on Twitter at all about any of this? Like, Brandl tweet about this, nothing? The only reason I know is because I have a buddy who played in the tournament because this real estate company does like crazy business with the PIF. Like, that's the only

reason I even knew it was happening. And I do, I believe, you know, because Brandl and Aman, friends of the program, I've been obviously the most vocal opponents to the entire live golf scene and Saudi backs really anything. And, you know, I think they were making the point months ago when this would be brought up, not specifically this event, but just in general. That like, well, Saudi back, Saudi back, saw the golf is that like they don't, like they, there's an astronomical difference in the amount of money that the women currently make and that them making, having even an opportunity to make a lot more is drastically different than the men who already, if you're really successful, the PJ tour, you're making tens of millions. And that's just not the.

case if you're really successful on the LPJ tour so that like a drastic influx in money that they can play for is completely game changing for the you know women and it whereas it's not like completely game changing for the men that's the only like point to blade devil's advocate that I've really heard but it is it's clearly a double standard I mean clearly I didn't see any of the flag the or at least I don't think I didn't see a single piece of flag now it's probably out there Maybe I just didn't see it, but it's clearly not even close to the degree that it's been against anyone going to live golf. And yeah, I don't even see anything about it. Yeah, and live is,

fucking going on. Live is interesting because they try and distance themselves from the Saudi connection a lot. I mean, obviously there's the Saudi guys who are hanging out, but you don't see any Saudi Arabian signage or anything like that. I was looking at some pictures of Saramco. There is a Ramco fucking everywhere. I mean, it is very, very much a Saudi production. And they did it in New York City, not. all that far away from, you know, the site of the 9-11. It was just, I was very, very surprised at how

little there was, little discussion there was about it all weekend. Yeah. That's crazy. Agreed. Agreed. And we've played it. We've all played Ferry Point. Tough track. It's hard. It's sweet. It's really cool. It's right. Um, uh, close. It's right there. And it was built for like a US Open, wasn't it? Like they want to get a US Open there and they just won't because of the name. So I mean, it's one of the coolest courses in New York. Yeah, that was apparently the first, like, legitimate professional golf tournament in one of the five burros. Right. I mean, it's one of the coolest golf courses in the area.

There's no doubt about it. Like the practice range, the facilities, the, the restaurant there. The place is fucking phenomenal. It's awesome. All the Vues of the city. Got an ace. First round ever played on 12th hole. Yeah.

Got a lot of history. It's a place is unbelievable. They had to take away the sign because people were pissing on it. So they had a sign on the floor that said Trump hole in one first round, and it just smelt and was deteriorating by piss, which is just an outrageous move. So then they moved it up top to like on a post. And then someone like bashed it with a hammer.

It's just like, I don't, they're playing a Trump golf course, but they couldn't accept the hand. They were using the T's and the logos for the ballmarkers, but they couldn't handle the little sign on the 12th hole, which is very funny to me. Some of the holes out there are spectacular. I mean, that venue is really, really cool.

You have to wonder if it didn't have the Trump name and everything that's gone in the last six, seven years, if they would have gotten bigger events over time. So I'm glad that that place actually did get, you know, a professional golf event, even if we, like we just said, nobody was talking about it, not even clearly as much as they should have been. But it is really cool. I think that one, too. I don't think Trump owns it. I think it's city owned, but they basically try to take it away after January 6th. So I don't know what happened since then. I think they just manage it.

Like I don't think they ever owned it. I think they're just licensed to basically like manage and operate it under the Trump name or something like that. So it's good for the super there too. We met him when we went out when we played there. And he's just like the coolest guy ever that's got this golf course like dialed into a major championship venue style golf course. And now he gets to I remember talking to him a couple months ago being like, dude, this is going to be so sick that you have an actual tournament coming here. He's like this is what we've been waiting for. This is what this course was built for.

the fact that I get to like prepare for an actual tournament that professional golfers will be playing on is something that I wanted to do when I came over here and took this job. So it's like it was very fulfilling for the guys that work there day in and day out to finally do what the golf course was kind of built to do. So that was a pretty cool thing for that behind the scenes crew. Yeah, I hope that place gets more tournaments. It's just a fantastic spot. It really is. It's fun. It's close.

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First win in four years. He, uh, final round six. He had five birdies in a row, I believe, to close out the front nine. And then he had seven in a row to close out the entire tournament. So he had just a phenomenal round of golf. I think he shot 12 under 60. He's 63 years old. So he dusted his age and won the golf tournament by like six shots over on the senior tour.

So congratulations to Fred Couples. And after the round, they have their playoffs starting this week, like the FedEx Cup playoffs for the seniors. He's like, I'm not playing. Can't be bothered. He's like, yeah, my back is sore. I'll start hitting balls again toward the end of November, December, because I live in California and the weather's perfect. That guy's just living his life.

He's unreal. He's just cool, man. He's just cool. Some people are just cool. Oh, he's gone. Like, you're not to throw Bryson on the bus, but think about the difference between Bryson.

I'm serious. Like, Freddie couples and Bryce and Deschambo. Like, they're both people. They're both people. Yes, that is true. But one guy is super cool and just charismatic and people love to, people love him, people gravitate towards him. and then Bryce and people do the opposite.

It's really interesting to me that people, like I think Freddie Couples was born that way. He's just born cool. And some people are like that and some people aren't. It's very interesting. You would think that people are the same. You would think that everybody's the same. Everybody comes stock and then you get to figure it out.

But then you can be cool and not cool. Two men that have won many golf tournaments, they've won major championship are in the golf spotlight. And one is undeniably, universally considered cool. And the other one is the least coolest person I think I've ever witnessed do anything ever. And that's coming from a show. We're not particularly cool people even on the show. He's our logo. He's our logo. He is just insufferable in a lot of things. And then Freddie couples doesn't even try. He's not even really talking. It feels like he's just walking around. And he's just cool as fuck shout to Kirk Minahan. It's his favorite athlete of all time. He texted me last night. He just wrote, what a day. I knew exactly what he's talking about. So credit to him. I know he,

Freddie called in on Thursday of the President's Cup that morning to the Kirk Minahan show and then a couple weeks later he wins for the first time in four years. So I imagine Kirk's going to claim credit for that. But it's his favorite athlete in the world and he gets his first win in four years. So credit to Fred Couples. Go ahead, Frank. Well, sorry. Well, Freddie Couples obviously has that relationship with Joey La Cava.

We had played with Joey La Cava a couple times. Trent and I. a couple of my buddies and Brendan. We all went out there and played with Joey. I don't think we've actually fully talked about those days. I kind of like the fact that we always tease it and we never really talk about our experiences with Joey La Cava, Tiger Woods is caddy and Freddie couples is caddy. But he is like the biggest Freddie guy of all time.

Whenever we're with Freddie, he facetimes him or calls him on speakerphone. So we've been like in the mix with Freddie. We've talked about the fact of like or the idea that maybe we can play a scramble against him. Would it be Joey and Freddie playing? And then we were like, oh, how's Freddy's game? like us as a group talking like you think it would even be competitive he's 63 years old we play all these pros we play you know we're playing saw hith and now we're going to play freddie couples and this guy comes out and he can close a fucking tournament with seven birdies i mean he can play on his own

with one hand at this point freddy couples still has the game i mean if we go out there to one of his home tracks in california and we just play this guy in a four-man scrimmel you don't think he's going to dust us of course he is he's friday fucking couples this guy has always had it and he always will have it yep he's going to be shooting his age until he's like 92. Totally. You know, maybe the silkiest swing ever,

kind of the Louis who stays in Adam Scott before Louis Ustays and Adam Scott. But this might be it. There's a chance. He's 63 years old. This might have been his swan song. There's a chance. So to go out and shoot 60, 12 under 60. Wasn't like, wasn't a 10 under a little soft par 70.

That's insane. This was 12 under 60. Sorry, drop my phone. And he won by six shots. I mean, if that's his last win, what a cool ass way to go out? What a guy. He's so cool. I love watching him.

You know, one of the cool parts about when we are, you know, credentialed media at these tournaments, you get to walk around and just observe things. There's a lot of observing to do out there in the golf course. It doesn't get shown on TV, especially in practice rounds. Like, Freddie just walks up to every green when he's at the president's cup and he's assistant captain. He walks up to every green. He's just got his arm around Patrick Cantlay. And they're just pointing at different stuff. And I see Cantlay's giggling.

and then like half hour later I see Freddie and he's like on a FaceTime with Tiger Woods and then he's like I see him and he walks by Dewey and like ball taps Dewey. You know, he's just like he's Fred couples. He's just, his life seemed so enjoyable. He's just,

and then occasionally jumps on Twitter and fires missiles at the lift. Missiles. Live people. And it's great. He just is Freddie boom boom, boom, living the dream.

He got his masters when his ball stuck on the hill on 12. It's just, he's living the dream. He plays. practice rounds with Tiger. Like that's, you know, whenever Tiger decides to show up at

Augustine National for the Masters tournament, he's just got a standing tea time with Fred couples. It's like he's just, he's just everywhere. He's everywhere a cool guy wants to be. When we were having all those Islander games for the playoffs and then all the players would come to Borrelli's after to celebrate, Joey would sometimes come with like his friends.

He would like sneak through the back door. We'd have him come to the back door Borrellys. And he'd be in the back. And then one night, I remember all the players were kind of sitting around. He's telling stories about Tiger. And at one point, he just like, he goes, let me make a phone call. And we all thought, like, holy shit, like, who the hell is he call right now?

Is this going to be Tiger? And he ends up handing me the phone. And Freddie was on FaceTime. And he was like, yeah, I'm in like, Schaig in Wisconsin. And I'm just at some event that I have to be. I'm in the hotel. Like, how's it going? We talk for a half an hour about golf and hockey and athletes and how, like, why hockey

players can, like, relate to golf and, like, translate to golf. And it was crazy. But he is the nicest person on the planet. I don't think you've ever heard one bad thing about. about Freddie couples ever. In his whole entire career, you've never heard of one thing, of one person having a bad interaction with him. I saw him at the President's Cup this year.

You were talking about it, Riggs. How he was kind of hanging around holding court. He gets to some tea. I can't remember it was the drive-able par four on the front. I think he was eight. And he's on the tea there and some very, very cute child. It's like, Freddy, Freddy, Freddy. So he kind of looks at their parents, grabs the child's hand,

takes the child under the rope. Child's just sitting there right in front of him watching an unobstructed view of Jordan Speeth and Justin Thomas hit his D-shot. After they go, he goes, thanks for coming, kid. Hands the kid back to his parents and keeps walking. It's like, that's just the smoothest, coolest thing I've ever seen. I mean, the guy, yeah, you're right. There's not a guy with a more positive reputation, probably in all of World Golf and Fred couples.

And then on the opposite end of the spectrum, Phil Mickelson. So Phil Mickelson with some quotes this past weekend. He said the biggest one was, I think I'm on the winning side. said, I see Live golf trending upwards. I see the PGA Tour trending downwards, and I love the side that I'm on. I love the way they involve us and listen to us in decisions. It's so inclusive, it's so fluid that things live golf is, that I think live golf is leading. I think going forward you have to pick a side.

You have to pick what side you think is going to be successful. I firmly believe that I'm on the winning side of how things are going to evolve in shape in the coming years for professional golf. There was this period of Phil being a little subdued. like he got kind of spanked after the Allen Shipnuck interview, that period is officially over. Yeah, I mean,

if we're comparing the fact that he's on one side and Tiger Woods is on the other and he thinks he's on the winning side, he's never been on the winning side of anything that Tiger Woods has been on the opposing side of him ever. Like legitimately has never been on the winning side of that. It's also clear that the idea that the PJ tour and Live golf can coexist and maybe even have a partnership. It was never on the table.

But I think the powers that be at Live were probably like, we can if we can gain enough momentum, maybe we can strike a deal with Jay Monaghan in the PJ tour. The powers that be on the live side have clearly decided that that is not happening and live and I mean, Phil is their mouthpiece and he's the guy who's going to draw a line in the sand and be like, nope, there's two sides and you got to pick which one you want to be on and I'm on the live side and right now I think I'm on the winning side. So now both sides are dug in and there's just never ever going to be any sort of relationship. Monaghan and Greg Norman are running these tours, like, their countries and there's like the possibility of war coming up.

Like, like, Greg Norman is this like communist crazy guy that's like, yeah, he's got all these nuclear weapons like that. We don't know if they even work, but like he's been kind of just like doing all these military walks and parades and we see them. But then like Monaghan's like, no, we've got like the strong loyalty army. But like they're definitely fighting right on the border. Like this isn't like Europe type of war. Like they're close. They're not, they don't have to go over any body of water. There's can be missiles fired overnight and changed the landscape of this world.

And that's where I feel this is going right now. Like these guys are not slowing down at all. This is escalating until a boiling point. And it's just going to fucking tip over and things are going to get messy. Totally. I wanted to ask you guys because he, he was asked about his comments that he gave it Shepnog and he again said I never did that interview. He basically said I never did an interview with Alan Shepnock, which what he's saying is we never had an on the

record interview. He used these comments that were off the record. It's a very thorny one in the journalism world. Some people approach it differently with record stuff. What do you guys think happened and what are your guys reads on that situation? So I saw, it's a good question. I saw Shipnuck and the fire spoken to Allen about it a lot. Well, I saw them post about it yesterday. And basically Shippie's record of how it went down was that he got a call from Phil Mickelson at the time when he was doing a biography. So he was a biographer on Phil Mickelson. Phil called him and just started talking and they're talking on the phone. And he said, you know, at that point, never did Phil as he was speaking before he started speaking, whatever, say anything about being off the record.

He never said anything about this is just between you and me. He says in the clip that I saw. She'd be, so, you know, he didn't say any of that. So Phil knows at this juncture that I'm a biographer. I've been looking to get an interview with Phil to kind of put a bow on this whole book. And so anything that he says at that point is going to be considered on the record. And he said, even if he had asked me to be off the record, Shibby says, I would have pushed back because I would have been like, no, I need this interview. This is like, this needs to be in my book.

So that was Shipnuck's account of it. I think at this point, it would be really. hard for me to imagine that Phil did say something about it being off the record and that Shibnook is just lying about that. It would be a balsy move for sure. But Phil's will basically say like, you know, I thought he knew that what happens if Phil thought it was off the record, which is definitely possible? And Shepnuck knew that Phil thought it was off the record, but Phil never said it was off

the record. Is Alan then good to go? That's where it gets tricky. And I would actually put that question to you as the trained journalist from Northwestern. What do you think? Well, it depends. How's it going to go with you, yeah. It depends on, there's no, there are these sort of journalism rules, but there really

aren't. I mean, no one, there's no like governing body. If I'm in Allen's position and I'm writing a book on Phil Mickelson and he gives me all this information, he doesn't explicitly say, then that's kind of on him. If you're going to say these things that are that spicy, then that's kind of on you. But I will say, there are, you know, times or scenarios in which you're more concerned about your relationship than with the story, right? So if I had something on someone who I have a good relationship with, and maybe they said something and it'd be news, but if I reported it, I know that

they wouldn't talk to me again and maybe their boys wouldn't talk to me again, and then you think twice about it. Alan is in a different stage of his career where he's writing his book and he's got kids to put through college. And, you know, if he has to burn a bridge, he's not concerned with it. It's more of a personal thing, like, are you willing to burn that bridge? Because, yeah, I would think Alan's going to have a harder time getting interviews. with players now. I mean, there's probably some who's going to, who are going to respect what he's done a lot. But now, you know, that name is going to be synonymous with, oh, did he burn Phil Mickelson? So Phil's done everything in his power to sort of ruin his credibility, which is pretty

aggressive. And to be clear, Phil isn't saying that he never said it. He's saying that he never, that he was an interview, that it was off the record. And that's where like, you can get caught in the mud of journalism. And that's important. Like what's right, what's wrong on the record, off the record. But to the general public, Phil said these things. He said these things. And it's like, you know, people can battle. They want in the trenches about like, oh my God, is, you know, where's the credibility lie? But at the end of the day, Phil said those things. And Phil knows that he said those things. He's just trying to make it seem like he was saying it.

But it almost makes it like if you was saying it off the cuff, that makes it feel more true. But it also puts it in a world where maybe you can't put it in a book. And ships, shipnucks. conclusion, which is this is not, you know, fact-based, but his conclusion is knowing the guy and knowing how it went down. He thinks Phil purposely gave those quotes because he wanted them out there. He said he said, he said what he said because he wanted the world to know how he truly felt while he was in sort of this box where he couldn't necessarily just say how he truly felt. And I think that, that actually makes a lot of sense where ship, it's like my guess is like he called, he said

all these things knowing that I was going to put them out there, but that he could then claim that he didn't say them on the record. But he wanted the world to know. Right. It's like, he's like, I want everyone that's shitting on me to know that I know these are bad people and I don't condone a lot of the negative shit that's happened. But like, I also am in this spot where they're going to pay me $200 million and I'm going to, I really do think this league has some potential.

And here I am. And I could say that without then being able to claim that I got screwed. And here's a good way to. do it. Now, that's pretty goddamn calculated, but if you read the book, I mean, and you've heard everything that we've all heard over the last 30 years, like Phil's a pretty calculated person when it comes to PR and media. Um, so I, you know, Trent's main point is probably the key takeaway, which is like, I don't think the average person cares. They're like, Phil said this. Phil's not claiming he didn't say this. So I'm going to react to what he said. Yeah.

Wouldn't that then prove that he did think it was off the record if he's, if he's, if he's not denying they didn't say it, why would he lie about like, I know what you're saying it's the best of both worlds, but wouldn't that make you lean towards believing Phil since he's not saying like, no, he's actually lying about everything I said and it was off the record. He's just saying, like, no, it was off the record. Wouldn't that be more believable as opposed to? Because he's not, he's not masking what he said, like you're saying. That's the worst part. But if you leave it in a gray area, then it's up to the credibility of the journalist and you fuck them over if you come out and say it was off the record by, but not explicitly stating that it was off the record. Yeah. Yeah. Just like,

It's just a weird hill to die on to be like, no, I said these things that I'm getting shit on for. Yeah, but not on the- But it was off the record. So, like, I just feel like that part's just probably true then. I believe the, I believe the series of events that Riggs laid out. I think he's trying to have his cake and eat it too. And it's, it's very calculated. But again, read the book or just know anything about it.

Wouldn't he just say, wouldn't he just say I didn't say those things then? Because that would be like the best. But I think that he, I think that he's worried Shipnuck taped it. That's my guess. Oh. Because. Well, that's a whole new thing then. Well, Shipnuck isn't going to put the tapes out there because he wants you to have to

buy the book to read all of the book. And so Phil can't necessarily claim he just didn't say something because he doesn't know who exactly he's dealing with. And I don't think it benefits Shipnuck. So I think you have to operate if you're Phil. It's 2021 when he gave those quotes. I think you have to operate like, I can't deny these because people at this point, it's really easy to just prove that people said something.

Now, would that be legal, Danny, if someone recorded the actual audio without... It's a state-by-state issue. Some states have two-way consent, some don't. Bro, what is happening in the world of golf where these are the topic? You know what I mean? We're talking about two-way consent. It's really got into an insane place where it's like, did he record the phone call? Is it on the record?

Is it off the record? It feels like Nixon. Like, what, I don't know. This is crazy. Yeah, but think about all the shit we've been able to talk about golf with Tiger Woods over the last fucking 15 years. It really hasn't been about golf. So the biggest stories in golf have not been about golf. They've been about like walking a straight line in North Carolina, wherever the hell he was.

Like it's about it's about all things off the golf course has been the biggest stories. I'm with you. And I and it's always like. This is not the first time we've talked about tapes. I don't think it. Well, yeah. It's not the worst place to be where these are the things that we're talking about golf. It's just like recorded phone calls, you know, a credibility of a journalist.

Like it feels like real world ship, but it's all about the golf. world, but I'm, I'm into it because it's super interesting. Yeah, things have gotten really real over the past couple of years. We're not talking so much about birdies and boeys anymore. No. And honestly, that's what America loves. We love drama. Totally.

That's why the reality TV is king. So that this is, this is what, if this is what's going to put golf in the limelay and on people's radar and in the headlines, then that is what it is. And I think it's, it's even more interesting because it's golf, because it has the squeaky clean image, because you think of it as. all gentlemen and no one curses and everyone wears khakis. And now you've got the Tiger Woods scandal where you've got the guy who is the most unbelievable reputation at the best sport is just absolutely going crazy in different restaurants

around the country. And you've got guys who are taking Saudi money. Yeah, allegedly. You guys are taking Saudi. It's just like you have these people who are all buttoned up and then now they're acting a fool. I think it hits even harder because. Meanwhile, all those buttoned up guys have been like the worst people in American history

for the last like hundreds of years. Like you go to any crusty white old country club and those guys are doing the worst things of all time. But they're like, nah, you shouldn't be doing this. Like, what are you talking about, dude? You own like the most corrupt companies in the fucking world.

The whole thing is so fucking stare. It's so, it's just so fucking stupid. Everyone is just pointing fingers and it's all glass houses. It's like, let's just fucking make some birdies, man. Let's make some birdie. So good.

It's why it's why hot D. is so good. You've got everybody's a fucking hypocrite And pointing at how this person is like a whore. Meanwhile, they're trying to put their person, their son who's the king, who's raping people as like the best person in the world.

They're all full of fucking shit. It's like they're all full of shit, man. Everybody's dirty. Everybody's dirty. Like you can't, you can't find a clean candidate. It doesn't exist. Ever.

Fame in politics in the U.S. Like everywhere. Dude, nobody's just perfect. We're human beings, people, especially now people are living so long that like, you're going to do fucked. People are going to do fucked up shit. They're let you around for too long. Of course, it's like, it's crazy. It's crazy, man.

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that and I'll try and find it but he lays out how many people that needed to be alive for you to be alive I saw that. It was like 9,000 great great grandparents. There's 4,000 people had to live and like get to a point where they reproduced and like every so it was like you need

two parents, you need four grandparents, you need eight great grandkids and it kept going. And it got to 4,000 people needed to intermingle and succeed. And he was basically saying, like, how many successes and failures and problems and, like, things you had to overcome over the last 400 years for you to be sitting here right now talking about, like, your asshole on a golf podcast. You know what I mean?

Like, how many things had to go right and wrong and horrific and good and happy? And it's just like there's so many storylines. So many storylines. I do get weirded out about like lineage. Like, obviously I'm me and I know my parents very well. I knew my grandparents. Sorry, it's called the 2 a.m. podcast.

It was pretty good. Like I think about your world and how small it is compared to what it really is. Like I know me. I know my parents really well. I knew my grandparents very well. Didn't know my great grandparents. Yeah, great grandparents starts getting really, really blurry. It's blurry.

But like, just because it's blurry to you doesn't mean it didn't happen. Like I, there's people who are. three, four, five generations who are the reason that I'm here, but I know, I literally don't know that. I don't know anything about them. I don't know their names. Like I came from somewhere. I just think that I came from my parents and it's like, oh, yeah, oh, then their parents. Those people are cool too. But there is such a long line of people from what to, to the point where I come in that I just don't even know who those people have. You have like 200 great, great, great, grandparents. Right. And it's something crazy. The, the creepiest part is that it's butterfly effect times a

billion to the most sensitive degree because it's like literally if you're great great great grandparents that one Thursday night if they didn't have that like romantic touch because of a candle and they fuck the next night instead like you're a totally different off spring and that that's that those people before you that were like your great grandparents are they are totally different human beings that are different everything is different literally if they just like did a dual like a dual sword suicide or something it's over like you know what I mean like that all this is That's done. Your line just ceased to exist 300 years ago. Or like if someone, if the family got poisoned, they were at the red wedding or something. Like, and they all just got murder. It's over. Like so many things could have happened. Dude, if one of them was in battle and like a bullet actually missed their ear by six inches instead of actually hits them, like it's all over. For your whole lineage, it's just none of it exists. You're not who you are. So random. That's just completely random. It's, it's life changing to think about it that way. it makes you think like you have to be happy for that like what happened to get you there.

Like I almost want to like go dig deep. Like who was Frankie Borelli 300 years ago? Can I find that? Right. I get why you start to understand why there are people who get super obsessed with ancestors and ancestry. Like they're like, where did this come from? And I wasn't that into it for a long time. But then if you sit and think about it, it's almost everything.

Like you just the fact that it actually happened and it did happen. And there's people like my grandparents, grandparents, grandparents, those are people who are very integral in my existence. And I just don't know their names, don't know where they came from, have no idea. It's weird. I'll put the other side because my mom's cousin was one of those people who got really

interested. And he made a family tree going back to like the 1650s. And once I found out, it was just sort of like, yeah, that sounds right. You know, like some like Jewish guy who lived in, you know, Poland. That's so interesting. though. Why is it? Why is it? Really? Do you? Why isn't it interesting? Because you came from that. He had to survive and he had to like figure it out and his parents had to figure it out and then his kids had to figure it out and then their kids had to figure it out and everyone just had to figure it. Everyone's just figuring it out. The odds of figuring it out, especially in the 1600s, 1700s is so fucking like rare, I feel like, but we all do it. Also, think about how much you love your parents. Think about how much you love your grandparents. Those generation before,

that you would love them just the same you just didn't know them you just don't know who they are yeah true very very very true and it's also really weird to think that when they were living your great great grandparents like 150 years ago or 200 years ago like they were living in what they considered to be the most modern time yeah ever that's what trips me out like they literally were like how about this gunpowder and cannons we got like this is legitimately magic like holy fuck this is crazy I think anyone in your lineage did anything ridiculously impressive? Like, like,

yeah, they would escape the Nazis. There you go. That's pretty damn good. That's pretty good. I'll take that. That's huge. Honestly,

that's really important. That's really good. And that is historical for sure. I don't want you to just think that's not historical. I'm just saying like, I don't know, fucking like your great grandfather or your 300 year old great grandfather is like Abraham Lincoln or something crazy.

You know what I mean? Like, and you just wouldn't know it. Like, you think someone in your line was so, so famous and you just have no idea about it? I don't know. I don't think so, but I don't know. I don't know either. I know, like, I think it's probably more likely they did something really bad.

Somebody in your linear lineage is just something. I said a bunch of fucking Italians and fucking some in some little village for the last 400 years, just probably doing some stupid shit with fat faces. They got, it's just a bunch of chubby faces skinny guys all this this i actually want to go for next year when we go to the rider cup if we go to the rider cup i want to go to my village like a finding frankie's family and we just roll up on this village and see if we can find a borelli that'd be unbelievable that'd be good it'd be so much fun well who is your closest relative still in italy is there anyone like do you know yeah my dad's got so my dad's father who started borelli's with his two brothers they all came

from like a little town outside naples and then they're they have some cousins. Two of them were passed away at this point, but one, Uncle Phil is still around. He has family there for sure. So there's like brothers of my dad's uncles that are definitely there. Okay. So there's a korella cousins for sure. My dad's got cousins in Italy for sure. So it's like not

too far removed. We don't have to go that far back. But it'd be nice to meet like some old lady spinning some fucking sauce in a pot being like, who the fuck is this guy? You know what I mean? Like as I walk up and she's like, you're pathetic. You're like, you're an embarrassment to our name. And I just kind of walk with. way you apologize. Right. See, that's nice to you know. I walk up in a Peter Malar outfit.

Like, Taylor made golfing. Hello, Nana. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. They like, I'm in a video game. She's like, what is that? What are you talking about? I don't understand. At least you have, what is this a video game?

At least you have a connection. Like, I, I'm Irish. I know that I'm Irish, but that's all I know. I, we have no connection to Ireland. We have no family members that we know of there. Like, at least you, that's cool that you have family in the whole country. My mom's like 100% Irish or like 80% Irish. So, like, it would be nice to see that side of the family, too.

Like, yeah, I don't know anything about that side. Nothing. It's weird, man. I don't really know anything about my, not anything, but after, like, two, three generations, I know nothing. I know essentially nothing. I know from, I mean, we're Armenian on my dad's side of the family. That's Pozoan, I-A-N. And, like, I know that they essentially, like, my great-grandparents, I believe, escaped.

like the Turkish genocide in like the early 1900s and came to America and like rekindled and that's where my dad's side of the family comes from. But before that, I mean, how did, you know, like how those two met each other and who they came from? I have no idea. And then on my mom's side, I know even less about it. Not out of lack of it. I just have never, for whatever reason, committed any effort to finding out. Armenian, isn't that what the Kardashians are? Yes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Anything you see IA and EAN, that's all, I mean, like, Boghian, if you're looking at, like, hockey players. Yeah.

Anytime you see that, Dan Blasierian, anything I and EAN is Armenian. Interesting. Very interesting. Yeah, that is interesting. I feel like an obsession with my ancestors is coming down the pipe for me. Have you signed up for ancestry or TNA or, like, ancestry.com or anything? No, I've never done any of that. Order it.

Start spitting in some vials, dude. Okay. That's cool. You'll find out some, like, your great, great, great, great grandmother. had like four fairs and you have like all these like extra cousins that you had no idea about. They're going to sell my information to the government and now I'm going to be on the grid. No, I'll do. I don't.

Dude, Face ID, it's already done. Oh yeah. I'm not worried about any of that. I show up to clear. They already had all my information. Like how old is your sister and why like,

like that's just how the fuck do you know I have a sister? I don't know. Dude, the face ID stuff is crazy. Have you guys ever heard of this airline JSX? No. No. No,

no, you told us about it. Is that the one in Arizona? I've told you guys a little bit, It's a small one that goes like a handful of spots out on the West Coast. They get bigger. They're basically like small, really small, you know, jets, what you would consider like a really big, like private jet.

But it's an airline. And they have their own terminal. And at Phoenix and at Vegas in, I think Monterey, and they're trying to get more and more. But it's cool. It's like between a private jet and a commercial flight, it's a little bit more expensive than commercial, but it's not crazy.

Anyways, they have their own terminal that you check in at at Phoenix. Sky Harbor Airport. It's completely different. You don't have to go through the main one at all. You show up 20 minutes before your flight. You walk in. They got like little coffee. Then you walk through a tiny little metal detector when it's time to board. And that's it. That's the whole deal. You don't have to go through anything else. And I flew there in, you know, June or something like that. I flew JSX to Vegas. And we had the classic there. And we had a JSX pilot sitting in front of us. And I said to him, he was answering all our questions. This guy was incredible. And he was just talking about flight and how you bank this way. And the plane's about to do this. And here's why. It was fucking fast.

saying. I was like, well, I got to ask you a question. It seems like security is extremely light here. Like the fact that somebody can get on a plane that's the same plane that I booked a ticket on with what appears to be incredibly limited security whatsoever, it seems like it would just need to be tighter with everything that's gone on since 9-11, the whole deal. And he was like, well, what you've got to realize is when you walk into that terminal, that terminal has all this facial recognition technology that they actually have in Maine airports too, but there's so many people there that they can't fully rely on it, when you walk into that terminal, they know everything about you. They know who you are, your background, how big of a threat you could possibly be in

if they need to do more security than normal. So the second that you walk in, before you've even checked into the counter and handed them your bag, they know everything about you and they know that you're good to go and that you're not a threat. And I was like, holy fuck. And he's like, yeah, that's why you're funneled in a certain way. That's why it's a pretty small, intimate little terminal. That's why they don't need more security because they pretty much know right away. Is that to suggest that if one of the main terrorists walked into JFK that JFK would know the airport? Like they have that? The way he kind of described as me was like their facial recognition technology that they have in big spots like that.

Yeah. We'll like identify pretty much everyone, put them through like a database and they'll spit it out. Now again, he said like they need real security, not real, but like beefed up security airports because there's so many people that you can't fully rely on it. but he's like in a terminal like this where there's only 10 to 25 people on a flight that are coming through at a time like they're able to get everything about everybody the second that they walk in there i was like holy fuck I think the way that ends with the facial recognition software, and this could be 100 years in the future, I think that ends with like social scores. I'm pretty sure.

Yeah, like the Black Mirror. So I watched two episodes of Black Mirror and it depressed me, so I had to stop watching. Oh, there's one of them where that's the whole thing, is there's this product where you just have a score in your life. They factor in how much money you make, how good looking you are, how old you are, all that stuff. You just have a score.

And if you're not a certain score, you're not allowed in certain restaurants or certain clubs. Right. Like Riggs is saying that it does a facial recognition and it determines how much of a threat you are, just play that out like 100 years and it's going to be everywhere. It's going to be everything. Also, when Black Mirror did the one where like you have all your money or points based on your body and you only have a certain amount, right? Wasn't it like you died if you let go of all of them? Yeah, it's like social capital. It's the same

idea. Social capital, right. So like you went to dinner or something and someone would like throw you three more points or whatever and like you wanted to gain as many points as you possibly could and some people had like no points no capital at all and they were like dying. The one that made me bail was, um, it's early on, but it's, it's the guy he wakes up and you're in like a pod and you can get on the treadmill or the exercise bike and you gain up all these points and he gets all these points and he gives it to this girl that he likes and she ends up being a porn star and he ends up freaking out and like breaking the glass and he becomes the broken glass guy and people give him money to do like the broken glass show it like I like had to go for a

walk and like figure out like what I was going to do with my life because that show that show will put you in dark positions and you're just like this is probably where everything's going well the one that really turned me off to the show because I had to probably take a walk around my house when I saw it was when everyone was able to record on their little like contact lenses so everything was being recorded And this woman was like obsessed with like killing people because like she killed someone by accident in like an argument. She like pushed him off a cliff or something. Or got. She hit a bike, a bicycleist and murdered someone.

And like she didn't know what happened. So she got rid of him. But then like her vision was like now recorded everything. And someone saw her. So then she like went to that person's house and killed that person. And it kept going going going at the end. At the very end, she like kills the last person that could have. possibly seen and like the the scene ends with just this baby crying in a carriage.

And the baby's looking at her and she's like, oh, well, like, that's the last one. And she just like suffocates the baby and the show end. It just goes to black. Yeah, it's just like, it's just the end of the show. Ruin your day. Just the end of the show. Gotta do it. Got to do it.

I'm watching a fucked up show right now that's based on a true story and it gave me nightmares last night. So much to the point where I had to go close my bedroom door. Like that's how bad it was. And I had to close the closet door. Dude, no, I've watched it. That was fine. Like, that's obviously a fucked show, but like, I knew what happened in that.

This is called The Watcher on Netflix. I've seen that for it. It happened in New Jersey, like, four years ago. And in the fact, like, dude. I'm going to go pee. No, I don't know if I, like, it's just, it's the type of scary that I don't like. It's a type of scary that I don't like where it's like, it's not really not believable. It's just people fucking with other people.

And like, I don't like looking out of windows and seeing people staring at me. I always feel like when I look outside, like my kitchen windows. or like my dining room window. I'm just going to see someone standing in the fucking street just staring. And this whole show is just filled with that. So it's a stalker? Dude, I don't really know what it is. I mean, do you guys want me to like explain it?

I don't really. No, I'm going to watch it. It's a true story. It's, uh, yeah, it's about this house in New Jersey. You guys see the, uh, the efforts. It's called the psychological thriller. And I did not think that'd be a horror show. Like they have to be better with naming fucking shows on Netflix.

Because it said psychological thriller. I'm like, I like psychology and like a thriller to me. Like, oh, knives out. Like, I'm thinking this is knives out. Like, who done it? Like, there may have been one scary part in the beginning. And then, like, the rest of it's like family, fighting and all this stuff.

Nope. The first scene's like, boom. Like, you're just like, what the fuck's happening? Why am I watching this at 1 a.m. in the morning? This is fucking nuts. I couldn't. My heart was racing. So I had to take a walk.

I had to go get water last night. I got a water last night. And I looked around the corner every time I entered a new part of my house. My old roommate, Robbie Fox used to do that to me. because he knows I hate horror movies. I can't go through the experience of just being scared for two hours. So he would pitch movies to me as thrillers. He would be like, yeah, it's a thriller.

It was like, oh, that sounds great. And then it'd just be a full-blown horror movie. You're like, fuck off, dude. Fuck off. Psychological thriller. I don't watch that shit either. I just don't need it. My theory is it's hard enough as has been documented to be like a mentally healthy,

happy person at any given minute of any day. And there's no way watching that shit's going to help me achieve that. It's like roller coasters with me. As I got older, I couldn't do it anymore. Like, Rick, you have too much control over your fucking mental state. I don't like it.

Like, when I complain to you about comments and stuff, you're like, I don't read comments. You do too many things that are just like good, mature things. Yeah, but that's a while to get to that.

You need to have more self-deprecating qualities. No, I read, you read them occasionally, but you become numb or to it as you just have been through it more like anything else. Yeah. I just feel like you,

you've got too much control. I don't like the only thing I don't like is that we buy these houses from people. and we don't know what they did in the house is prior, and we don't know what they've set up in the house while we're living here. Like, I haven't checked every nook and cranny in my house. You know what I mean?

I have not. And I've been living here for like eight months. I haven't, there's probably some parts that I haven't laid my eyes on in this house. I have no idea if someone left something there, if there's like a hidden room somewhere. So true. If there's like cameras set up somewhere,

maybe like, I don't know, maybe some of these like screws in the wall have like little cameras in them and something. You know what I mean? I don't know anything. I didn't build this house. That's a nightmare.

That's a full-blown horror show. You should do a scope after the way you start recording. I might. I might start doing like a metal detector thing where I walk around and just check the walls. You're going to go insane. You're going to go insane. I have an addict that I have really never went into. I went in once.

I just like, I just don't check it. Addicts are scary. They're kind of just scary in general. They're super scary. And ours is kind of nice. You could actually stand up in it. Like it's like pretty tall.

Like the highest part of our house is because of the attic for some reason. I think we have all like like a room. No, it's an attic. Like it's got all like the pumps up there. It's got all the air conditioning systems. It's got like the condesate pump and all that shit. I never check it though. Something could be up there.

Yeah. No, there I saw, I think it was the TikTok of this guy who was living in a house or an apartment. Okay. And his like, he was living there for like a year. All right.

And he would wake up and like the refrigerator would be different. The stuff. What are you talking about right now? Be different. And he's like something's fucked up with this apartment. So he put up a camera. in his apartment and there was like say there was like a little door up above those closets in my apartment when he would go to bed and he'd close his bedroom door just some girl would just get out

step down go in the refrigerator and like get stuff and then go back up there she was just living there she was living in his place for like a year and he was like why is this happening so he set up a camera and there was someone else living there now immediately he thought that was a ghost or like a demon right like when he's watching back that camera footage and you're like, all right, when you set up that camera and you're like, I hope not to find anything, right? I hope that when I set up this camera and pointed at this refrigerator, that I find nothing and that I've just been misplacing things in my refrigerator. But what he ends up finding is some woman opens up some door in his ceiling and she climbs out of the ceiling, opens up the refrigerator and climbs back into the ceiling. Immediate thoughts is this house is extremely haunted.

and I'm looking at a live ghost. They show you the footage and it looks like paranormal activity. No, I'm out. It's an at night camera and it's just a body appears and you're like, holy fuck. So what I'm doing is I'm walking into the kitchen the next day. I'm not making any scene and I'm just screaming out loud. Yeah, the house is now going to be on fire and I just light the place on fire. I let them know.

We're actually going to light this part on fire right now and then we just boom, we torch it with the person in it. Murder. It's probably murder. But I mean, you have to do it. You can't. You just. Yeah, you can't. I mean, they're not exactly in the right.

No, they have to, they have to go down with the house. If you're hiding in a house for a year and you're treating me like your paranormal activity, I'm killing me. It's like offsetting penalties in the football. If it's offside or roughing the past, it doesn't matter. They're offsetting. I got a little something going on in my apartment where, you know what really bothers me like in a hotel or when you live in an apartment where you're not the top floor and you can hear people walking and there's just heavy stepers. and you're just like, just lighten up a little bit. And I'm sure I'm a problem too because I'm a big body and I'm not exactly a ballerina.

But I live in this new apartment. I live on the top floor. Like it's not a tall building, but I live on the top floor of the building. And I can still hear steps. And I don't know what that is. Is there a roof access? Is there a roof over you? There is definitely a roof over me and I don't know what the access to it is.

And I, but I don't think it's a, it's a happening area. It's not like a hospitality trafficked area. No, but either one, one, it's people. two, it's a ghost or three, like maybe if you step like through the hallway, maybe it sounds like it's coming from above, but it just annoys the shit out of me sometimes.

And I'm like, I'm on the top floor. I didn't think I would have to deal with. Maybe it's a squirrel? No, it's steps. Okay. It's human steps. Chupacabra or Bigfoot or something?

Could be. I really, I'm open to any option at this point because I live on the top floor and I'm like, I'm definitely not going to hear people stepping. I pay for the top floor. Why is it? Excuse me. I have three TVs.

I have. I'm rich. I'm the richest person in the world. Richest person who's ever lived. That's right. And I hear people stepping above me and I'm on the top floor. What's going on? And I haven't asked anybody about it. I'm just talking about it on a podcast. So that's what's going on with me? Let's do a little cross-country mortgage last question of the day. How do you guys feel about that? Love it. I feel really good about that. Cross-country mortgage, you know about them. They listen to the best mortgage company. This is the only mortgage company. This is the only mortgage company. in the world you can fall in love with, I would say. See if you qualified today. Visit CCM.com slash barstool now, cross-country mortgage LLC, NMLS-3029, all loan sub-loan subject to underwriting approval, www.

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ends the fight. Do we have to kill the bear? Yeah. Yeah. I think this thing rips us to shreds. I don't think the bear is going to like tap out. So I feel like we got a, we're probably going to happen. How do you think we're going to beat this? The thing is, well, what's the kill shot? One of us is going to die. Definitely. What's the kill shot? Who's killing this thing? Do we what I think if we really, which I don't think we'd be able to do, hence why I think

we would get defeated in dramatic fashion. But no, I think the way we would actually be able to kill is if we could somehow wrestle it down to the ground and all just kick it in the head repeatedly, I think it would probably die. I really do. But I don't know that we're going to get to that point. I think it's going to absolutely dust us and I don't think it's going to be very close. I think the bear will borderline not even be wounded in any degree and we'll all four be dead. Dan, what I think you're underestimating is a bear who is who knows it's in a fight is going to just tear us apart. Like if we could, I don't think it'll know it's in a fire. If we snuck attack a bear, Maybe.

But if you give him the chance to realize that he is being attacked, I think we are, we're paper scraps. But I think we have a chance of surprising him. Other creatures don't come up and like cuddle with bears. What do you mean surprise them? His hearing is better than ours. His smells better than ours. Everything's better than ours.

And he's just, he literally just encounters and kills other creatures all the time. I would pass out of fear. If he sees Liver King, he knows he's in for a fight. If he sees the four play podcast, dressed head to toe in Peter Millar, he probably thinks that we're not going to attack. I think there's an opportunity for a surprise element here that you don't have with a tougher looking group of guys.

I don't think the Liver King and Dan Bilzerian could kill a bear with their bare hands together. I don't think the strength has anything to do with it. It's just like you can't, dude, these things are like seven feet tall, aren't they? It depends how big the bear is. We're talking a huge, grizzly bear or polar bear.

They are fucking, claw the shit out of you. Gigantic creature. Also, imagine our communication skills in that moment. There's four of us. So we got to figure this thing out. And we are all going to be shitting and pissing our pants. We're going to punch it?

Oh, yeah. Tricky. Kick it. Right. Frankie, Frankie, step up there, punch him in the chest. And it's like, what do you mean? Like, what are you talking about?

As soon as Frankie steps to the bear, it's going to paw him in the face and Frankie's done. So now we got three of us. And it's, I really think it's. Impossible almost. Without, without weapons, it's impossible. All right. I was wrong. I appreciate the confidence that we could do that.

I mean, we are to Dan's point. We are four pretty physical. What? Specimens, as pathetic as we are relative to other people. We are humans. Like, we can kick and punch and fight for our lives. But like, I don't think it's going to matter. I think one, one swoop with the, with the claw takes out two of us instantly.

Like five sharp knives on his giant hand. He's Wolverine times a million. He just, Yeah. If he touches my head, I'm going full. We wouldn't even hurt him. If he touches my head, I'm going full two up. I mean, I'm going, my hands are freezing.

I think if we get one knife, now we're talking, but no weapons. It's, we're just, we're not even going to come close. Okay. Fair enough. I think we get, I think we get all. four of us get killed and I think he walks away like Neo in the Matrix after any time he encounters a bunch of bad guys and he just destroys him and then walks away like nothing happened. I think that would be what the bear would do. Would literally just claw us, kill us, bite

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I'm reading on Twitter, the Yankees, the Yankees plane, like, hasn't, like, taken off yet. And they're still in Cleveland. Are they playing tonight? Yeah, they, like, got delayed. So now some people are saying it might be the family plane that their flight got in early this morning, but still, like, a weird thing that they did not take off last night and that they're getting into New York and going straight to the stadium as if they're just like fans like they get in and they just go yeah i would have thought they left last night for sure yeah i mean it's just like it's a blue checkmark

guy with 491 000 twitter followers saying yankees team playing is still in cleveland mccan how you feeling for tonight frank i guess this will i feel good i mean afterwards the fact that the the yankees didn't like the fact they blew it two nights ago was brutal um i fucking hate that naler guy The Rock and the Baby thing was one of the more preposterous celebrations I've ever seen in my entire life. I understand running around doing it. I actually kind of got into it. I was like, that's fucking hilarious. But when I saw the alternate angle of him hitting home plate and running to the Yankee dugout going fucking crazy, being like, I'm that guy.

Like, you're still down in the game. That was a solo shot. You're still losing. I love that. I also thought there had to be some sort of personal history between the two of them. But it was just the way he just called everyone. and he hits a home run off of their son, his son. Awesome.

I do want to say we don't talk much gambling on the show, but I bet on Tennessee on Saturday, Barstle Sportsbook plus 260. So Trent and I both got Tennessee in. And so we were both in a, we were both able to get it in on the Barstall Sportsbook. We bet Tennessee. We got that in.

It was an amazing game to watch. I had a bunch of my buddies over. Everyone's ride in Tennessee. We couldn't believe. that game. We bet that money line. Money line. No spread against Alabama.

Alabama misses a field goal. We're going bananas. I never seen Trent scream like this before because he's not a sports fan. So like, I mean, you are a sports fan. You're not a pro sports fan. So I don't get to watch like big games with you,

right? You're just an Iowa fan. And like I don't get to watch you watch like an elimination game or anything. You're not on streams watching sports is my point. Yeah. So like watching Trent go crazy over this game was fucking awesome. every single play were die hard and then that win at the end i mean we all like hugged each other like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of dollars were one amongst the four of us and we just couldn't

believe what we were watching the best college game i've ever watched my entire life me and big rob hugged it was great it was really an amazing and amazing situation one of the funniest parts was on the on the alabama field goal that they missed it went so wide right at one point that we all jumped together to to celebrate and then rob stayed still because he he knew that ball was coming back. It had a draw on it. It just missed. He's like, oh, my God, you guys celebrated as the ball was in the air, but it almost came back in.

We were dying. What a good game. I merged a little business and pleasure this weekend. I watched the Alabama Tennessee game with Pilar and Allison. Wow. Look at that. A little merch squad. Pilar and Allison came and met myself and Emma and a bunch of our friends, and everyone drank

and was merry, and it was a great time. I saw Jake Bass was devastated, which, you know, I don't know. I don't want to say it made me happy, but he talks so much about Alabama and how invincible they are that I saw a video of him being devastated and I, you know, it put a little bit of a smile We went to Wojis or Wojis in like the West Village area. Wow. What a get together. Oh, it was great.

And someone, you know, some stoolie came up and said hi to me and Emma could not believe it. She thought it was the funniest thing she'd ever seen in her life. She'd never seen me be recognized, not at a golf course because it happens at golf tournaments a lot, but she had never seen it in person, and she couldn't believe it. I think she, like, called her mom immediately. And it was like, I'm dating a celebrity. I would imagine, now that you're in a video game, it's going to be happening a lot more.

Yeah. Speaking of sports fans, Pilar's like the most. Dude, she was streaming. She was watching sports fans. She had to sit in one spot on the corner so she could watch the Phillies game while she's watching Alabama game and she had the Maple Leafs game streaming on her phone. She's an animal. Crazy when it comes to Toronto, Maple Leafs.

We've gotten in screaming matches over. hockey. She'll just give it right back to you. And then Texas, obviously, Texas is sneaky, really good college football team this year. Which is great. They lost two games. They lost two games, one against Alabama that they should have won. And then the other one, they lost an overtime with their backup quarterback. They should be like a top five ranked team in the country. I like when Texas is back, I'm not the biggest college football fan, but this year, obviously with gambling with the Barso's sports book, it's been so much more fun to get into it. I'm like, I'm hookum, Texas. I think when Texas is good, Matt McCona Hay's on the fucking sidelines. It's a fun game. They

absolutely destroyed Oklahoma State in the Red River Classic. Is that what we're calling it? I believe so, yeah. Red River Robbery. Red River Robbery. Red River Robbery. Red River rivalry. I think it's a triple R's.

But yeah, no, it's a fun right now. That's an easy one to be like, Wed River, why? I, uh, Toronto Maple is an absolute joke, by the way. They have no goaltending. Like, how do you build that team with that much offensive power and no goaltender? Dude, they're, they're starting goaltenders, Matt Murray, and he's out for four weeks. They literally said that when Matt Murray got hurt that morning. morning that they had to get an amateur, like,

legit non-professional goalie to back up. They, like, didn't know what they were scrambling. They didn't know how to get a goalie in uniform to come to that game. Fucked up to a one. Yeah, fuck to me, yeah. I'm, I like when,

like, when Toronto's, I'm similar with Texas with, like, Toronto Maple Leafs. I wish that they would, like, win a little bit. It's funny that they lose, but those people live and die hockey up there. I just feel bad for them that Toronto Maple Leafs haven't won

a playoff series in like 25 years or whatever it's been. Tavares has yet to win a playoff series since he's left the New York Nielder's. That is impossible to believe. He left to go win. His reasoning was like, you know, you only have one career and this is my time to like really, I'm the peak of my athletic abilities and I want to join a team that's just going to win. And he just hasn't done any of it, none of it. I do want to say when we went to the opening night for the Islanders, it's cool, like

knowing those guys a little bit more than I did last year. And watching Barzell skate is unbelievable. He is so much faster than everybody else on the ice. I can't believe it. Those are all professional athletes and he makes some of them look like they're standing still. It's crazy. I know. Wait until the Aves come in town, you see McCar do it.

It's just even more different. Wait, when are the Aves playing the Islanders? Because I got to go. Soon, isn't it? I think it's pretty soon because they're playing like three games. I think they play the Rangers, Islanders, and the Devils all in one sling. They'll be here for a long time.

Wow, they play on Saturday night of Halloween. Holy shit. That's going to be a tough one for me. Who's play the Islanders in New York on December 6th, that's all? December 6th. It'll be a little bit of Christmas spirit up there. I might come up for that. That'll be a lot of fun.

Christmas in New York. I think I'm playing golf with Francis Ellis tomorrow. I love Francis Ellis. He's a good player. He's a great player. Yeah, he invited us both to play on Saturday. I couldn't make it. Yeah, we're supposed to play Bayonne.

I guess you got the fallout tomorrow. I didn't get the follow-up invite. No, I think we're doing deep dad tomorrow. Mm, Briggs's favorite place. That's going to be, um, that was the catalyst for the like, we don't like fast greens, uh, stuff that people, oh, freaked out about on the internet. 100%. No, I just, I don't, I don't like it. I don't, I, I really, really like that golf course.

It's one of the funnest golf courses in Long Island, on Long Island in the area. But fuck, man. If I can just putt a little bit better, I'll have more fun because the first couple times I've played, I wanted to walk off the course after 11 holes. But it is that challenge where it's like, can I finish this round of golf without getting annoyed? Like, I want to keep playing it until I have fun. Francis lives across the street from me and I always see him walking his little French bulldog. And mine very much not French bulldog wants to eat his dog, I think. Oh, wow.

Fuck. There you go. Neighborhood, neighborhood run-ins, baby. Neighborhood run-ins. All right. I think we're done here, boys and girls. We'll be back on Thursday per usual. What do we got?

What video we got coming out Thursday, anybody know? Ads? Is it the ads or is it breaking 90? I think it's breaking 90. Wow. Biggest video we've ever released. A lot of the questions that we got were about Wins Breaking 90 coming back.

Thursday. Rockville links, attempt number 10, I believe this is? Or 9? Attempt number 9, Rockville Links. We went back to the site of the fifth hole. This is the, this is his bugaboo. This is the hole that he can't get over. We have to make sure that we.

get through the first five holes and then we're going to see where we're at i'm telling you guys right now it's a must watch video as all breaking 90s are Trent ryan is back in the mix he's using his 10 finger grip off the tea it's his first time doing that in a breaking 90 um yeah this place was fucking rolling too like wait until you see some of these greens at rock of the links i don't know something about northeast fall golf greens that are just different man they're just they are they are pure as fuck. So these greens were rolling. It's a lot of fun.

Built different. Built different. They're built different. Well, we'll be here to talk about it all day Thursday on our next four play golf podcast. Big shot to our sponsors to Chevy game time, Shopify, curve, cross-country mortgage, Roman. Shout to all the listeners. The fall line is out, by the way.

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And that's not even a set. Like, those sweatpants could have like the good, good logo on them and I would wear them. That's how good. Like, they are the best fucking pants I've ever had my chair. I think that's like the sixth straight podcast that we've referenced. Well, yeah. There's no getting around. They're a fucking juggernaut.

Wagging they are. They're not in a video game, though, which is pretty cool. No shots at that. It's just a fact. Okay. Well, we'll be back Thursday. Everybody have a lovely week. Enjoy your lives.

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