Fore Play - Are We Unstoppable?

Episode Date: October 1, 2020

2-0 baby, 2 and 0. The Fore Man Scramble has officially beaten Jake Owen, Darius Rucker, Morgan Wallen, and Hardy in a scramble match at Troubadour Golf Club and we recap the entire round on today’s show. We also answer some From The Gallery questions such as does a hole in one on the 19th hole at Payne’s Valley count, do we have disdain for muni and local courses cause we play so many nice ones, and more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, four play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Four Man Scramble has done it yet again. We've got a lot to break down to react to, to discuss. There was so much going on. There was drones. There were different characters, huge music stars. We have no lurch today.

He's traveling. I'm traveling. I'm currently at the airport. We might do 30 minutes and then try to pick it up later. We might have just myself and Trent. We might have just Trent talking by himself to a wall. I don't really know exactly what's going to happen. But we are, of course, as always, produced and helped and made beautiful and productive by our guys, Jake and Brennan.

A shout out to those guys. They were running all over the place yesterday. Filming Frankie was throwing the drone up. Bug was doing finger tracers on social. But boys, we did it. We're 2 and 0. It feels great. Feels fantastic.

I think that we are proving ourselves to be a dynamite for some, maybe the best that the world has ever seen. It allows us to be cocky. It allows us to be full of ourselves because we've yet to be beaten. We beat a top 25 golfer in the world in Kevin Kisner. And then we beat four solid guys who golf all the time, a two handicapped, a Darius Rucker, whatever he was, a six or seven. and we beat them as a foursome. So I'm feeling good. I'm feeling cocky.

I said that a bunch of text messages yesterday. A couple, I know that the Islanders said that if we played them in a foursome, four-man scramble, we'd never want to play the game of golf again. So I said, do you want any of this smoke? We are undefeated. And we are basically the best PGA pro of all time. Like I said yesterday at one point, we beat Tiger Woods. And I looked at Lurch, dead in the eyes.

I said, if we played Tiger Woods straight up right now, we would beat them. I think he was like, yeah, I think so. That's the discussion we need to have now because it does feel good that we're two and oh. We beat Kevin Kisner. We beat the country superstars. We played great. We have great team chemistry. That is really, I think, the determining factor where we all just play well enough and we pick each other up in the spots that we need them.

Because once again, just like in the Kevin Kisner match, three of the shots every once in a while were terrible and awful and really bad. And then one guy would just step up and nail a shot. And that's really the huge factor in all of it. And now we have to have the discussion. Is there ever or anyone on the planet one person who can beat us in a four-man scramble? I would argue probably not. I would say no. I just think no.

I think we are the best single player in the world. I think that like official world golf rankings, four-man scramble is number one. I don't know how we can possibly be beat. Like you're saying, Trent, like we just are a complete player. I don't think any one person has the chemistry that we as four people have. like no way to have that. We've got a great short game when we need it. We've got great guys off the tee when we need it.

We've got great wedges and approach shots when we need it. We got great long when we actually need it. So it's just like we're just a complete player. We've been grinding. It's been years in the making of kind of trying to get our game to that point where we can compete with the best in the world. And I mean, yesterday was a drubbing. Like we killed them yesterday.

I know that it came down to a put on 17, but like, we just killed them. And Darius made a huge put on whatever. whatever that was, 11 or 12, which kind of changed the match. We got a lot to get into with those guys and what the experience was like, actually playing, you know, 18 holes of golf with them. Owens was out there sponsoring, so big thanks to Owens. We were drinking transfusions throughout the day. I know Mr. Jake Owen was very early in the day, like, how do I get another one of these transfusions?

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They said it was these older companies that don't really know what they're doing. Don't get the times. So they came out with delicious mixers that are cool. and that are delicious, like I said. So you're going to love them, get involved with Owens. We've got the loudspeaker. This is probably the fifth time I've done a podcast from the airport. I feel like that comes in really loud every time.

Not as loud as you think, I bet. Really? Not loud, yeah. Yeah, definitely can't make out what they're saying. So let's get into their team, Darius Morgan, Walden, Hardy, and Jake Owen. It was very intimidating, I would say, early on. The first person we saw was Darius Rucker. and that was like an hour before tea time,

and he was just alone with his son on the range, absolutely grinding on his swing. He's Darius Rucker. He's one of the biggest and most famous musicians in the history of earth and music. And there he was, head to toe PXG in like black and white matching outfit, just ready to go.

You know what? We were talking about how great our team is and how great the chemistry is. And I've got a little tidbit here that'll give you a view into that. Frankie and I were on the range. We were on the range warming up an incredible range. Like you can't even describe how amazing it is there at Trubidor.

It's got trackman. It's downhill. There's tractors. There's fire burning everywhere. So it smells like a campfire burning wood. You feel like you're going to camp. It was an incredible experience. But Frankie and I were on the range by ourselves, warm it up.

And then Darius Rucker rolls up on us. Doesn't say anything to us. Doesn't even acknowledge our existence. So he's on a far other end of the range. And we're thinking, all right, if we're not even going to exchange pleasantries then this is a match like i know we're raising money i know it's the four-man scramble it's just we're there to have a good time but he was grinding on his swing didn't say anything to frankie or i and then this big old dude named lurch rolls up to the range

and he just sort of he muzzles up to darius rucker and says hello and gets him laughing and that is a very integral part of the relationship just to sort of warm people up like that because frankie and i we were we were just going to stand there all day and maybe all through the round and never say a single word to Darius Rucker until Lurch walked up and just sort of said, what's up with this big booming voice? That's true. We were super intimidated. Darius had us the second we saw him. We're like, all right, he wins. Like he's just dominating us. His son was caddian for him. Like you said, dress head to toe PXG, the whole thing. And we never had a chance until Lurch walked up there and introduced himself. And then we kind of like humanized them where it's like, all right, this guy. guy actually has a personality. He actually wants to talk to us. He's happy we're there. It's his home course. He lives on the golf course. Everything about that was huge that Lurch broke that ice because that ice was fucking rock solid and it was 15 feet thick because we didn't have a chance of breaking that thing. And it was, I don't think I would have said it worked

to him the whole day if Lerge didn't do that. I completely agree. And turns out Darius, as you would imagine, is an incredibly nice fellow. It's just a very nice, genuine guy. I'm sure. We'll get more into that. But as soon as the ice was broken, he was very cordial and very nice. Darius was cracking me up, man. Like he was kind of the quieter one-line guy through the group, you know, your golf crew, everybody's got somebody out there who's just kind of cracking one-liners and chirping. But he also is like, you know, I mean, he's witty and artistic enough.

And his one-liners weren't redundant and they weren't rhetorical and they weren't tedious. Like a lot of the ones that you've heard, he was just dropping a little one-line. that I'd never heard before and he was very, very funny and he was very competitive. Like, he wanted to win. We got to get into Hardy who, Hardy was maybe the most ultimate grinder out there. He was doing the Camila V. Jigas where he was getting down like the spider behind the ball, reading the greens.

He was a circle in the pin like Tiger when he's, you know, stalking one of his pots, trying to get the read on everything. So right away, it was sort of, and then Morgan Long was just chilling. Like that guy was just having himself a great guy. That guy's cool, man. That's a cool guy. Everything about him's cool. He took his mic off at one point because he just didn't want to wear it anymore.

No one said a word. He's just this young, cool, long hair, and may I say, extremely good-looking individual. And I'm not even, like I've said before, I'm not a big country music guy, so I haven't heard a bunch of his music. But everyone else here, and I think Frankie maybe, they say his music is fantastic. So he just has everything going in his direction. Dude, I was at one point, like, whistling that song where it's like whiskey glasses. Sing it. Sing it.

Well, I went, I was like, and I was literally, like, getting out of my cart and funneling through my cart and looking for a tea. And I'm doing that. He, like, he, like, looked at me at one point. He's like, all right, I see you. Like, I was like, oh, shit, that's your song. That's embarrassing. It was just in my fucking hit. Because it's a really, he's got some bangers.

He's just released some new music. Hardy just released a new album. And obviously, Jake Owen, I. we talked about with Jake Owen on his show. I went on the show that he came on here when we got real emotional talking about grandparents and love and playing music. We talked about how like I just listen to Jake Owen. We all listen to Jake Owen and just in our car, like driving and fucking get like Wendy's at

2 o'clock in the morning. And it's very strange that we're friends with them and super friendly and be able to go golf with them all the time. So it was a really crazy experience. Hardy is a lefty. He's got a very smooth swing. Darius Rucker, obviously is Darius Rucker. I forgot to put him in that little rant that was going on.

about these guys. Darrys Rucker is fucking in. Who do you the blowfish? I mean, it's crazy. Goes without saying. And his swing is great. You can tell it he's like a country club. Like he plays a lot at that style of golf where he's just got that really smooth, compact swing, Darius. And going back to Hardy's game, his lefty smooth swing is one of the smoother lefty things I've ever seen. It's like this pendulum where he moves back and forward takes unbelievable divvets. Never seen anything like that. I mean, he was basically chunking at the ground, but the ball was going 1,000 miles an hour low.

He had these low missiles that rose up. He was a really good golfer. And pounds the ball, yeah. Off the tee pounds the ball. Like, we went into it knowing Jake Owen pounds the ball. The first time Hardy pounded one, we were like, we might be in some fucking trouble here. And he's a huge fan of basketball, too, which was awesome.

He's like, Frank, I actually got to tell you, man. And he named a random pizza review. He's like, that ill formal review, like, in New York City, man, with, like, those kids that came in during the reviews. Like, that's my favorite shit of all time, man. He's like, I was like, oh, you watch the reviews. He goes every single one. So it's like, Hardy's just chilling there looking like his, like, he's got the whole southern swag going with the long hair and the glasses. And you just, like, see him sitting on his tour bus, probably just watching pizza reviews.

That's such a cool thing. Yeah, man, it was a really cool experience playing with all those guys because they're just regular dudes, obviously, when you go and see them up close. But I was very nervous on the first tea. And we have these whoops now where you can check your heart rate. Mine was 161. And I was just like, I mean, I'm always nervous for these things. And you can go back and check the tapes on the Kisler one where I could barely get my ball on the tea. And I was just as nervous and probably, we lost you for a second there.

I think you did a little blip there of audio. But I think you're saying that you just didn't have the ball on the team, which I looked down at your hand. Your hand was shaking. Dude, how can you? Like trembling. Like trembling. Yeah. I was very nervous.

Very nervous. Oddly for me, and I don't know why, and I swear this is going to sound crazy because I was just watching the games. But I think because my heart rate and I was so nervous for two straight months watching the Islanders this past two months, that like when I'm now in like a high pressure, high heartbeat like situation, I actually don't feel it as much. Like I got so used to having 121 resting heart rate watching Islander games at night that when I was on that T, it literally felt normal. Like, I wasn't nervous at all. The Islanders numbed your nerves?

Yeah, I think, like, just that feeling of having, like, your heart bouncing in your throat. Like, when I'm watching double overtime games in the Eastern Conference files or something, I started to get used to that feeling. I mean, I literally checked my Woot Band during Omnigan's, and I was 120 resting heart rate. Like, just sitting there during an intervention.

It was 1201. So I feel like being on that T-box, it was like, oh, this is a familiar feeling. I just felt this two weeks ago, like a week ago. This is it. This is just normal. And my heart's supposed to be in my throat. But yeah, I wasn't that nervous. When I, like, Frankie said that in the first fairway.

You're like, are you guys nervous? I'm not really nervous at all. And I was like, what do you mean, are we nervous? Like, I'm shaking. I can't stand fucking still. And I, I mean, when I came up, Trent, first of all, hit a great drive down the left side. And then both Frankie and Lurch pipe went down the middle.

That was after we watched all four guys in the first foursome who, I mean, this is the first moment that we're all hitting shots. This is the first moment where you size people up. It's like, okay, all the talking, all the trash talk, we're on the range trying to give everybody a hard time. Now when you're on the first tee, it's like, it's go time. Let's see what you got. All four of them striped one. Then all three of you striped one.

So I'm up and everyone's like, well, there's no way the group hits eight great key shots. Like, we're just all not that good at golf. And I hit one so far right. I almost missed the golf ball. And Frankie's like, yeah, are you guys nervous? Like, did you just see what happened? That's the worst first T shot ever see you hit, ever. It was really, really bad.

I missed a ball. Really bad. And what I've learned in those situations, despite what I've said on this podcast already about how nervous I was and that I was borderline having a heart attack, according to my whoop, is that you just got to go. You just got to do it. Whenever we flip the tea and it points right at me, I'm ready to go because the more you wait, the more nervous you get. So I can't imagine being the eighth guy in that group after we all hit pretty good drives having to hit one down the middle. Like that's an impossible task. It's also like I just don't hit the ball. Like me in and don't hit the ball as far as Frankie and Lurch. So when they pipe went down the middle, is like, well, what am I do?

This is just, like, it's almost like I'm only hitting this T shot. It's like out of torture. Like, there's no reason for me to hit it other than everyone to laugh at, like, look at the idiot guy with the hideous swing trying to hit that golf ball into the air. Like that's, that was the only reason that I was there. I was a puppet at that point. My way, my was a pretty good drive, but Lurch absolutely piped his. He probably hit his, I don't know.

15 yards further than me and like landed a pass line. And you stepping up there, there was never a chance we were going to use your ball no matter how good you hit it. Awesome. Lurch hit it so well that there's nothing you could have done that we would have used your ball. And normally in that situation, you'll just be like, well, I don't need to hit one because Lurch has already got one down there, way, way down there. But it was the first T.

So it's like, all right, I guess I did it. Yeah. It would have been very funny if I just walked off the T. It was like, yeah, no, I'm not. But right. Like, what are we here to do? We're here to laugh at Riggs hitting a horrible t-shund. I have to hit this shot.

So that was all in my head with Darius and Jake and Morgan and Harvey, all chirping us the whole time. But it was, man. It was pretty surreal because, I mean, on a golf course, you can't hide over the course of five, six hours. Like, you're going to mingle, you're going to chit-chat with these guys. So it just became by the fifth or six holes. It's like we're on the T-box while people are hitting.

And we're just chatting with Hardy and Morgan. And at one point, I mean, you're saying, you're like, Morgan and Hardy were just talking. And then they're like, go Riggs. We were just chatting like, how do we get one of those hoodies? Like one of those bars of hoodies? I'm just like, you guys can just get anything in the world. You could ask somebody to just get you like a moon rock and they'll just make it appear.

Like you guys are megastards. What do you mean? How do you get? I'll just give you whatever you want in the entire world. But they were just normal dudes. Hardy rolled in in his, or Morgan rolled in his pickup truck, just the most predictable, like, expected thing, blaring music with no care in the world. and was just playing golf with us. So the whole thing was wild.

In terms of the actual golf, I thought that we, again, played more clutch than I expected. I think that a lot of people thought the first time we did it against kids, it was a little lucky. Like, there's no way that they just are one-hit wonders and can just do that consistently. But I think we, again, almost to a T, played the same kind of game where, like,

we have a couple guys like Frankie Lurch drove the ball great. Trent got into a groove where he was able to hit some fairways when we needed it, even though he had the draw going in the middle part of the round, which I like to see. I don't think I'd see you draw on the ball before like that, Trent. I don't think I've seen myself do that. I was stunned. It was happening on the range, and I was hoping that it wouldn't carry over to the actual round, and boy, did it. It kept doing it all day long. I don't know what I was doing differently. I didn't think I was doing anything differently, but the ball had a completely different flight. It worked out a

couple of times. But yeah, no, I was stunned by that as well. And then we were able to hit good chips, good putts when we really needed them. And we just won. Like, there's really nothing anybody can say. We just, we just were better than they were yesterday. And I think that the next test, I mean, I know Paige Spirannick was chirping that, like, her and her girls are going to be able to beat us. People are asking us, like, if you played Tiger Woods at Paines Valley, would you guys just play straight up and would you guys be able to win? And I think the answer is like, absolutely we'd be able to win. We're just better than people right now.

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golf, go check them out. Okay. The other thing from the match that I would say was that Darius probably added the biggest jolt of energy into the four-man scramble. And I think that we really needed that because I think even though he left on like the 15th or 16th hole, I think he was just going to leave after we took a huge break at the turn where we went to one of those comfort stations and we're all

pounding like bacon and cheeseburgers and stuff. And I think Darius was literally about to just walk off the golf course at that point. So I was very happy he made a long butt, which I think we would have lost him. Yeah, so Trubodore, we haven't really talking about the golf course much. Trubidor was the craziest, like, country club va I've ever been at. I don't know. It's probably the opposite of that old, crusty walking on eggshells place that I've ever seen, like the most opposite I've ever seen.

Yeah. I mean, it's a playground for country music stars and professional golfers. And I think like Brady plays. I mean, like all these superstar people, high level people, go to this place. It's a discovery property, which I guess now I'm learning more about these properties and people that own these places. Like discovery likes to go in and take over golf courses or build new ones on land and have that relaxed vibe where you can like go out and fucking take a shirt off or like, I mean, like it's not like in the rule book that you should do that. But like they just don't can't. There's no like rules.

There's no walking on eggshells. There's nothing that's crazy. That makes you feel like you're not at home. They have a freaking wiffleball stadium with a green monster on it. They have a dirt bike track. They had go-kart track. They have beach volleyball. They had the frisbee tennis.

What's that thing called? Frisbee golf. Frisbee golf tennis. Isn't there a name? It's called Frisbee golf, right? Rolf. Isn't that what people like to call it? You can say that.

So, but yeah, they just have all this types of stuff. and then the clubhouse is insane where it's like got like all these lights everywhere and Trent was alluding to it before where no matter where you went on the property there's always a fire burning so you always smelt fire. At one point we're like where's the 11th hole

and the guy said follow the smoke so that was cool. He did say that. Follow the smoke up there at the top of the hill. He specifically said head north and follow the smoke. Head north and follow the smoke. The GPS doesn't even take you

to the right place. You have to then follow like directions via text message that they send you to get there. And at one point, they're like, you will reach like this, like, wooden archway, make it left at the wooden archway, and then follow the road down to the smoke pit. And then you, like, see this smoke pit and everyone's staying around it. It's so cool. Really, really, really cool.

Like, I bought three things of merch in there. That's, like, when you know that you want to rent the place. Like, I'm a really big fan at Trubidor. I'm a really big fan that we've played that place. How committed are you to be in this visor guy now? well that's the problem so I got the visor or two and oh while I'm wearing the visor I don't want to wear the visor I think it makes me look like I'm on the LPGA tour it's crazy

the look is horrible but then but then I can't take it off now because the second I take it off we'll lose so I have to wait until we lose almost so it's also you just wear it for the matches wear for the matches and then also I like go I like want to get a new one so I got a pinaurst one when we did the pinares one I got a troubader one now but it's like a gimmick

bit piece of merch. Like, I'm never wearing that visor anywhere aside from what we wear the match. So I have like a $40 visor that I'll just never wear. And then you clearly buy, you're wearing a Trubodor hat right now. Yeah, that's what you'll wear around. I'll wear this every day in my life. So really cool stuff. We can't have you show up not in a visor next time we do a match because then you're just allowing yourself to be bland immediately if we lose. Yep. And also you're just like changing it up when we've run a two game winning. street. In hockey or whatever, if you like eat a certain thing, I bet like, let's say you eat like a cheeseburger the night before, really big game, you score three goals. You're just

not going to not eat a cheeseburger in the next game. Regardless of what happens that next game, you are, everyone can say they're not superstitious, but the second I take that hat off, I'm already in my own head saying this is the reason why I just hit the first ball out of bounds, because I'm not wearing that hat. I wore the hat the last two times and I piped the bowl the last two times. So yeah, I'll be wearing that. But yeah, Trubidor was awesome. Really, really cool. The staff there was fantastic, bringing out jerky dust and drinks. They had those comfort stations. They have like these fucking little huts where they just have at one point there's handed me and Riggs bacon. Like legitimately fresh bacon off of the fucking grill. Like it was,

I'd never seen anything like it. I never have either. It's like at four in the afternoon. They just had like a little bucket of bacon strips. And I said, I said, is that real bacon? And she's like, yeah, of course it's real bacon. I was like, I can, I can, I can, I can, I can, a little bucket of, just eat that bacon? She's like, yeah, would you like the bacon? I'm like, yeah, I would like the bacon. And then Frankie came over. He's like, are you eating bacon? I was like, yeah, I'm fucking eating bacon right now. And then I had the same experience with Frankie. He came walking out with his hands full of bacon. And I was like, three pieces of bacon in my hand, huge pieces too. Huge. I was like, are you eating bacon right now? He said, yeah, it's right in there. And then I went

and filled my hands with bacon. Jake just texted us, our producer, Jake, and he said that Darius had said yesterday that was the first time he's ever worn golf clothes while at troubadour for that match so like usually it's just like a hoodie t-shirt shorts no shoes like go out there fucking take the car from your house get it to the first tee and go off i mean the the fucking driving range is something like i've never seen before they had tractors out in the middle of the drive range that you can just try and like hit they had a fire burning in the middle of the driving range like out there by like the 175 marker was a fire yep it was just a fire you can see smoke coming out of like a barrel And, you know, that just means that there's a fire in there.

But it is, it's, it's essentially everything that we love about golf and want it to be, except for just super rich people that can afford to be members of this place. And like the comfort stations that we're talking about, like the huts, these would be like elite cabins. Like they were awesome. They were kind of like discreet back in behind like a green, but they weren't just like a kiosk. They were like legitimate cabins basically with, all this bacon and all this food and nice restrooms.

And there were, what, three or four of them spread across the course? Like at different points, we pull up to them. There was like a mini party going on at these comfort stations just on this golf course. And it just, it was a complete and total fantasy land. It was, I think my first experience at one of these discovery properties. I've heard a lot about them. They've got like, what do you say, 25 or 30 different properties now that they've got spread across the world. But they do, they do it right.

And Jay Cohen was like there will be somebody, I predict, it's a T-shot shirtless at some point today. You can wear, except it's incredibly nice. And I actually, like, we're going to get in some from the gallery stuff. But one guy said, it was Nick. And he was like, do you guys suffer from nice course syndrome? And he was essentially like, now that you guys play so many nice golf courses, are you unsatisfied or irritated when you play like immune and the conditions aren't great? And it's not the same thing.

and like me now. Oh, Transformer. You're trans, Riggs, you're going Transformer. I'm losing you. Am I? You might be back now.

Am I transformer? You were, yeah. Is it better? Yep. Do I sound like the transformer? You will also look and you look like one as well. Your connection is such that it's all one. You sound like a transformer and look like one.

Try again. Damn, but am I back? No? Yeah. Can you guys hear me? Yes. Do I sound normal? Yep.

Yes. You were just talking about if you can play muni courses. Well, what I was going to say is that even, I don't even, I don't think it's like munis and stuff I still love. I think they've got that charm. That'll always be there. But I almost think now I have to come in from a discovery property and how cool that was, that any place that's like stuffy and has rules and you have to like tuck your shirt in a certain

way and no hats and anywhere on the properties. Like those places now I'm going to look at as pathetic of like, what do you, what are you guys doing? Like, what do you like it's almost like like they're living in the 1940s and like they have different like constitutional laws. Like what are you doing? It's almost like they don't know that it doesn't have to be that way. It doesn't, it can be like a very relaxed atmosphere. Everybody can have a good time. It doesn't have to feel like you're walking on eggshell a little time.

I'm sure there's a benefit to them keeping it that way. way all the way buttoned up in the way that it's been forever. But people just have so, so, so much more fun when it's like it is a troubader. I just wish every single place in the world was like that. Because it just depends on like what kind of club it is. If it's your fucking run of the mill, like Long Island golf club that's just like super douchey and these guys just think they're better than everyone else, like that's fucking stupid. But if you go to Augusta National, like, we've argued about this, you should have to like

walk on eggshells because that's what makes that place really cool. like we're not allowed in there and you finally sneak in behind the gates and it's like all right like let me hide and i don't want i don't want people to see me almost like cypress like there's only a couple places that i think like i guess like shinnock has that feeling where it's like i'm not supposed to be standing here right now because this place is like top five cool but like when you go to just like fucking right like that place garden city golf club that i used to work at you can't you can't you can't use your phone so someone gives you like a oh text me later like here's my number like let's do business you have to write it on a napkins and you have to wear a blazer in the clubhouse.

Is that where the judge strangled you and strangled you in the trip? The judge grabbed my neck in the trees and told me it never touches golf again. I cried. I actually cried real tea at me. Like it's fucking like, come on, man. I can't take out my phone right now. It's 2020. I'll literally get fired if I don't take out my phone.

Like we just played a round of golf. What do you think this is? And the problem is I think that they're holding on something that's very problematic. I think there's like a fucking weird world in what they're trying to hold onto and grasp onto. And then you have a place like discovery that's like, hey, man, we can play this same sport on a nicer golf course in a better location, in a more relaxed setting where people are going to come here and have fun and kids can run around and fucking walk. Like the wives can all go fucking play beach volleyball and then you all get back and you have a fire around the pit.

That's the fucking coolest place I've ever seen. It's the same sport. So why is one place so different than the other? Especially when you're not that top five place where it's like you're not allowed here because it's just like we have to keep the grass perfect. Your feet aren't allowed to touch it. If you're not that place, don't ever fucking bring that vibe to me ever again. I agree. I agree with

all that. A fucking dumb-ass country club in the middle of fucking... I'm not saying that guards... I'm not saying. As I keep talking, I'm not talking about just like a general golf club. Like if I just like go to a fucking one, someone invites me to their father's golf and I can't wear my shirt on top or they're like, please take your hat

off in the dining room so it's like, why don't you, and shut the fuck out and let me go play golf. Riggs is very much. It's true. It's true. Yeah, I just bought a water. I went with a smart water. What do you think?

I like it. That's good. That's a good choice. I know water at the airport. You make a very good point, Frankie, about like, when I do arrive at, if I play a place like Cypress or like Shepard, like, I kind of want to get yelled at a little bit. Like, I want them to remind me that I'm not good enough for them. but if you're like the 365th best country club in the country it's like what do you do who do you think you are you're not augusta

you're not shenicock you're not cypress so why don't you just let people have a good time enjoy themselves let's also not get a twisted you have to be quite well off to play a troubadour you know like to be a member there to be involved in that experience you have to be quite well off but the vibes there you have to build a house on the property just to belong there one of the crazy you need a house

You have to purchase a piece of property before you can become a member there. It was one of the more stunning facts I've ever heard in my life. You have so much money. Like anyone listening to this, you just can't go out of the troubadour because they're better than you

and they deserve to have the stuff that they have there because they have all the money in the world. And they're way better than us. We just somehow worked our way in playing a match. The airport's buzzing right now. They're just in that airport.

I got to hit this fucking train. I got to go to Philadelphia. I got to go to Dallas. Dallas and then I got to go to L.A. all within the next 24 hours. So I need to get going on to a train. I'm sure at some point we will be speaking. If not, I don't, if I do not speak to you guys for the rest of the day, it has been real. We are two and oh. I'm sure I'll end up on the phone with you guys at some point doing this podcast, but if I don't, um, Henrik Lucas is no longer a New York Ranger. And here's another thing I'll say to all these fucking fans. Apparently you're not

about it. Just like, apparently like when something finally happened, like you have this rivalry. for 15 years with this fucking guy. He's the face of the franchise of the team that I hate. That's what makes sports so great. I despise the New York Rangers. Rangers fans despise the New York Islanders. Their franchise goalie for 15 years

is no longer playing on their team and I am happy about it. I tweeted, see ya fucking later with a laughing emoji. And everyone's like, this is so disrespectful to a man who devoted his life to New York hockey.

I'm like, what are the islander fans are like, we don't want to. be those people. Who do I mean those people? We literally, like, getting fistlights in the Stad, the Coliseum, Ranger fans chant Potvin sucks for 32 straight years at every single game they play, even if they play the Red Wings, they chant Popvin sucks. I mean, when John Tavares left the New York Islanders, I cried in my room because people were being so mean to me. I mean, what do you think this is? I'm allowed to get happy. I very much respect how classless your

response to hang up, you know, like, because it's, it's on brand. Like, it would be, it would be very off brand and not you. If you were like, hey, I know we've had our differences, uh, Henrik, but I actually just wanted to say great career. Like, that would not be Frankie Borrelli. That would not be somebody that I know and I'm friends with whatsoever. So your complete lack of class and the way that you handled, you know, him being let go and bought out, I thought was great. Why should I have, why should an Islander fan have any class when it comes to just like, having fun about your hockey team and the other they're not talking about this guy as a person i even wrote that in my next suite like great role model great guy for new york sports he's a derrick jeter of hockey

i get all that stuff if you're a ranger fan you idolize henric clunkwist fine but like met fans want the derrick jrudeer to die for the 20 years that he played for the new york yankies are you kidding me right now like you like it's jealousy it's rage it's anger it's sports that's all that is like we didn't have a goalie for 15 years and i had this guy with the largest dick and the best hair and the best fucking guy. Like, he's everything that you want to hate. And on my opposing team, in my team's division, in the same state. What are we talking about here?

Frankie and I took the earliest flight out of natural this morning. Crazy early flight. So we got to the gate around 6 a.m. We didn't go to the airport together. We met at the gate. And the first thing he started talking about was Henrik Lundquist and how happy he was that he got bought out. And now he can laugh in Rangers fans' faces.

And so, yeah, it would be disenfranchis. and genuous of you to then play it soft and be like, oh, you know, I didn't hate him that much and blah, blah, blah. So it's just he got to be genuine. You all hate him. All these Islander fans that are like, this is really bad. This is a bad look for our teams like, bro, we literally boo the guy every single time he comes to the stadium. We call him Queen Henrik. Just because he's in the game at that point, you can say you respect his career. Like, you can see him as a person. He's a great person. I'm sure he does a lot of charitable work. I'm not saying anything about Henry Lunk was as a person. I think he's a

he's a great human being. Him on the ice, I wanted to kill him. He's out my least favorite team. It's almost on Ranger fans for putting those types of expectations on him, for being like, he's our guy. He's going to win, but then he doesn't win. The king. Also, people can't be surprised.

I mean, this is, Frankie, you're the same guy who disrespected the entire country of Mexico and Australia when you said that Abraham Answer should quit golf after Tiger Woods destroys him at the President's Cup. So, I mean, this is just what, this is how you feel about things that are very up. It's crazy, man. You can't say it's like we should really be respectful. It's like, what are you talking about?

We're talking about sports here. Neither of us need to know what the hell we're talking about. I'm flying Southwest, so we're doing that thing where we're in line right now. Oh. You know, I'm 38, so I got to get a good. I do not like that process whatsoever. I love it. I just got to check in on time.

You just got to tell me where I'm going to sit. Give me a row and a number, and I don't want to go there. I don't want to have, it actually doesn't end up being as violent and pushy-shubby as it sounds, but I would prefer to just be told where to sit. Yeah, you don't want to have any choices or any decisions to be made. You just want to be told what to do. Correct. Great.

Thank you. All right. We got to get out of here. I got to get going. I got to get going. I got to fly like an eagle. All right. I'm getting on to an airplane.

Oh, boy. On that note, Trent, I'm the fuck out of here. See you later. I'll talk to you later. All right. see it. All right, folks, we are back. We have returned. We've got Frankie's on a train on the way to Philly. Lurch is in a parking lot somewhere with his axon t-shirt on and he bought an outfit to change into a real salesperson professional. He is rejoined the show so we can get his thoughts on the

entire match. Trent, I don't think has moved a big spot where he didn't move for months. Is that correct, Trent? I am in the exact same spot I was when we did the first part of the show. Yeah, this is just where I am. This is where I live. So we got some from the gallery stuff to get to. I want to hear Lurch's thoughts on the match too. First, we're going to talk about New Amsterdam vodka. They are the official vodka of barcel sports. If you're making a transfusion, which we already discussed,

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Thank you for your support. Lurch. are you? And what are your thoughts on the match? We kind of went through it and it's awesome that we won. How nervous were you? How did you feel about our game versus the Kisner match? So where am I? I'm in Phoenix. I had a nice flight from leaving Nashville that connected through Houston to Phoenix. I'll be in Phoenix for four hours, five hours, and I'm right back to Houston for a drone meeting tomorrow. So talking VR's here in an hour and then I'm talking drones tomorrow morning. It was fairly deflating to leave Houston only to know that I'll return. Also, I've got my

golf bag and everything else in the back of this thing. So I'm just a traveling closet right now. The match, I will say I was nervous. I was nervous after they all hit their T shots on one. Because after they all hit their T shots on one, I was like, these guys are gamers. And Jake Owen said that guy Hardy's a 10 and he's no 10. So like that got me, I was like, all right, we got to play some good golf. Then we hit some great balls out there, minus rigs, but there was seven

good balls before that, so there's just they're all not going to be good. Sorry to miss that. That was at 37,000 feet. I tried to join from before, but it just wasn't going to happen. But yeah, you can't, there's in no possible situation, can you have eight good T shots on one hole? It's just impossible.

So that was like, all right, we got to play good golf. Then we missed our put on one. But as soon as we had that good opportunity on one, it kind of settled me down to be like, all right, we're going to play with these guys. And then we kind of, they didn't really do anything special. It wasn't Jake Owen's best golf. They didn't really do anything special until the back. And so we kind of coasted to a two-up lead.

I mean, they three-putted one hole, which is an embarrassment on a scramble. You just can't take 12 putts at one hole. or, yeah, 16, I guess. That's a bad, or no, 12, that's right. Really, nine, I would say, because they're, you know, they probably just made the next one. But it doesn't really matter.

We're not here to be a numbers podcast. No, not a numbers podcast. But I will say the match came down, I think, to Jake Owens' pot hitting the, the flagpole, the flagstick, and not coming out. Because at that point, they started to like knock some dominoes down darius like knocked that 40 foot put in they got excited

then as soon as that putt in falls they are now we just have to like settle down and kind of have a couple holes here and it's ours um i think if that putt had gone in instead of popping back at us it could have been a totally different finish because i mean they started to get a little momentum get a little vibe going it was exceptional those guys are amazing it was amazing how dari is played and then Chase Rice filled in after. It's just like a crazy amount of name power and everything going on with us. But it was amazing.

There was unbelievable guys. I hope we raised a good chunk of change because it was a special time and a lot of fun to meet those guys. Lurch, what do you think? I'm talking a little low here because I'm just in public transportation. I see that.

Also, the Islander's mask is such a shoutout on today's news. I know, it's unreal. And I'm got a lot of heat on Twitter right now for saying. for being happy. Some guy actually said to Frankie, go hold the camera for Dave's dick. And I died when I read that. I just texted Glennie Ball, the whole basically eulogy thing.

Like I felt like I just texted him like his dad just died. I'm like, listen, like, I want you to know I'm happy that you're upset, but I know why you're upset. This is your Derek Jeter leaving your team. And like, that shattered me when Jeter left mine. I still don't respect you as a human being. But at the end of the day, like, whatever it's your guy i'm not going to so i don't agree with that analogy but keep going

i mean i know jeter was like the best we ever had with thought with fucking five championships and it was like right glorified you're a mike richter guy you're a different you're a you're a different generation ranger fan the ranger fans i deal with have never won anything in their lives you saw stanley cup you're a different breed that i can't handle like i have nothing over you but I have everything over Glennie Balls because he acts like you with none of the attributes. Like, you know what I mean? It drives me crazy.

But yeah, well, so just quickly to that, like Lundquist, I think, isn't just an amazing, he was an amazing goalie. I, like, tweeted out something like that he just, like, loved and he cared so much between the pipes every night, and I love that. But he's definitely no Jeter. I mean, a Jeter would be like a Messier for us, and when Messier left, that was tough.

You know, like when that, that when that whole group of like graves, Leach, Messier, like Larmer, like, you know, Zubov, Bukabum, all when those guys graduated. What are real names? Bukabum seems. Bukaboo Bukubu's a best hockey name in the world. That's one of those. The last three names you could have made up and I would, I would have still gone with it.

So Bukabum was this beastly defenseman and he played next to Brian Leach. They're not nicknames either. Those are just names. They're not like nicknames. Like Bukabum sounds like his name with like Bukmanovich, but it's really just Book-a-boom. Yeah, but anyway, so keep going, Frank. I think I forgot.

Oh, what do you think? So I was talking low because I'm on public transportation, but what do you think about the fact that I said no one can beat us now, like a single player? Me and you kind of joked about it on the golf course. But, like, had we played Rory McElroy yesterday, we beat him, no? So we did talk about that on the golf course, and we kind of went back and forth.

And I, like, I like, said no jokingly. and laughed, and then I was like, you know what, maybe, maybe? Like, maybe is in my mind that we can be any one person in the game of golf as a for some. It did a maybe did cross my mind. But I still, I have a hard time truly believe in it because when you look around this room, you don't see greatness. Greatness is just not in any one person's golf game. But seemingly, we score really well together. And I don't, don't know what that is if it's like you know the pauses that we're all aware of on this podcast where somebody talks and then like you know just there's really like no follow-up and somebody jumps in some

there's some sort of unnatural rhythm in the way that we go about working together and maybe that just echoes into the golf course of actually having a golf game here's the thing is that in now 36 holes of competitive play we've yet to miss a shot on one hole there's never been a chance we have not made bogey yet. There's never been a time in which we made a couple of miners. We made a couple of pines. But like there's never been a chance for time where we just all. Frank he's not. Really? Someone on the train. Oh man, I haven't moved. All right, here you go. Hold on. No, I know it. I know. I was going to tell them the little joke you said about the, uh, there you go. What does he do?

I had to show him my, I had to show him my ticket. Oh. Oh, fair. For half a second, I thought you were getting robbed. The train. conductor came over before and was like, can I see your ticket? Like, maybe two minutes ago. And I know it's just his job he has to check it again. Like, I mean, we just talked two minutes ago. I thought, I thought for sure you were going to be the guy that's talking on your phone in the quiet car. No, so, so, so then, um, he's like, did you get this bag checked for weight when you got on? And he like, pointed out my luggage and I was like, no. And he's like, are you sure? Like, how did you get through? And I was like, and I just stared at him. And he's like,

just a joke. He's like, I'm acting like at the plane. You get it? I was like, um. Oh, shit. Yeah, I mean, that's a guy that's just been riding the train too long. But, yeah, no, I just don't think we've missed the shot. We've never been, like, over, like, a ball 20 yards out, and we've all bladed it over the green and left ourselves with, like, a tough, like, up and down. Like, I just feel like we've always just gotten it done. Never once have we had to take a mistake.

Well, that's one shot that figured it out. That's honestly. Perfect, but we figured it out with one shot. That's honestly, and it's, come to the chipping lot where Riggs has been huge, where he cut, well, I forget what hole it was, but you're going to see. In, unbelievably, similar thing at Piner's over the bunker, do you remember? Uh-huh.

Yeah. Where it was like, if we hit three shots. Absolutely. Pretty much dead. And we need Riggs to come through with an amazing chip shot. And he's at least two for two right now. And that has been gigantic. Yeah, I would say, like, that's just, that's just us being a complete golfer as for

human beings. Not as one human being, but as four. And it's like on some level, you're right. Like, even the, even the two, I think we made two bogeys at Piders number two. The, the fourth hole was a 550-yard par four. And we made a bogey. And then the 11th hole, we just had, we just played sloppy. If you guys remember that one, where like, kids birdied the 10th. And then on 11, we hit it over by that bunker and nobody chipped it anywhere close. And then we had like a 15-foot. and we all missed that. So even those holes, like, we were right there. We were fine.

It wasn't like somebody hit a drive out of play. We had to take a drive. I mean, it was just like we haven't really made any big mistakes because I think as for we are just a complete golfer. And I do think that we would beat Roy McElroy. I do think that we would beat Justin Thomas. I think we would beat Tiger Woods. We're just too good.

Well, the challenge is out there now. So, I mean, we're two and oh. We're pretty cocky. we're full of ourselves, but we've earned it. We're enragesly cocky. I mean, but we're winners right now. We are in the driver's seat in terms of being winners. So if anybody wants to come knock on our door, we're going to answer it,

and there's a real chance that we're going to win. But I say bring it on. We'll take anybody who wants it, especially one person. I feel very common. We're extremely cocky because no one's beating us, like just beat us and then shut us up, like make us eat our words. That's just the way this works. That's the way competition works.

That's the way sport works. Yeah, it's crazy to say. It's like laugh out loud funny when somebody says in this podcast that we collectively can beat Roy Maca Roy or something like that. Like that just makes me smirk smile and laugh at myself because fundamentally it sounds wrong. But I think there's a real good chance that we would win. And it would be amazing if, you know, the Barstool Sportsbook could create odds on what that is. I don't know how you'd calculate that, but I would really like to know who they would call the favorite. who's plus money and whose minus money would crack me up. It's so funny to hear us talk about it now because before the Kisner match,

and I don't even know if we talk about it on the podcast, it might have been just all of us talking together off mic, where we didn't know which way the Kisner match was going to go. Like we were very, like, there was a 50-50 chance. We were definitely going to lose that. And then for the foreseeable future for the four-man scramble, it was how many times are these guys going to lose in a row? But now that we've just caught fire and we're 2-0,

we think we're the best call from the world. just might be. You know? I mean, the John Deer Classic has to let us in. They just have to give us a spot. We have to pick our battles in, like, our spots

because we can't just go up against four sticks. We'll get absolutely, like, destroyed. Of course. So, like, we are picking, like, we pick Kisner on a really long golf course, which was, like, against his game. We knew he was going to be over par, like, a round par.

And then, like, we picked these guys who, like, have a 15 handicap and ate a 10 handicap, have, like, we have to keep making it, like, reasonable or else, like, we're going to talk all this shit, and then we're going to play against four fucking two-a-cats, and they're going to shoot 11 under. We need to say, you know, that we're the best player in the world and that we'll play, you know, anybody, anytime, any place, but then only play a place where we know we can win. Like, we're not, we're not going to agree to a situation where we can lose.

So, like, I would say yesterday was as daunting of the past, maybe more daunting than kids. Kisner because like those guys like if Jake just plays I think better golf against we we have a really tough time winning that one but going forward like we're we're going to claim that we would beat anyone or we're only going to play situations where I think that we're the favorites Frankie kind of just did the thing in like conversation or arguments where he talks on the good side and then the bad side but he pretty much just did that to all of us like we've got two We're the best golfer of the whole world. And then he's like, but we have to control it.

So you just poke holes that everybody else will poke in us, but you just gave them all the sticks. No, but that's good. He's getting out in front of it. It's like we talk about you eight miles somebody. He knew that people were going to come out and be like, here's the reasons why you guys aren't the best golfer in the world and bang, bang, bang, bang,

and he just put it out before them and he took all their energy away. We're the best golfer in the world when we get to choose our own opponents. Bingo. Right. And I think we are collectively the best golfer in the world. And I think the four-man scramble is a 4V-1 matchup. If we do just a scramble, we should call it something else because then it's just, you know, like the four-play scramble versus somebody else.

But because that's 44. Exactly. Let's call that scrambled eggs or something different. Because if you put us as one, if you morph our beautiful bodies into one, we're the best golfer in the world. Right. But we beat the country stars as one. Like they were a beautiful one shot also.

So we were better than them as one. Right. So now I got a text last night from another country music team who rhymes with me, Mike. And he was saying, like, what if he gets someone involved now, like, by the name of John Daly or something? Like, if that starts happening and we start getting guys that just are professional golfers trying to mix up.

getting to a four-man scramble with teammates. That's when we start getting a little dicey for me, I think, personally. I think we started getting into waters that we can't just, like, we may not be able to do John Daly just straight up just because John Daly would absolutely destroy us in the mental game, like he's John Daly. Yeah. Also, like I heard from some LPGA tour players are like, what if we bring four LPGA tour players to play together?

And I said, like, well, no. Like, no, if they get to do a scramble, they're just going to beat us. And we're not in the business of losing. So we got to pick a bad. That's just not. Like, we'll play an LPGA door player and we'll prove that we're just better than she is as a collective golfer. Yeah, if you, Riggs is cut out a little bit. We will probably, we have to be careful.

Yeah. Like, the Pace Baranica crew would probably give us the heart. Like, that would be the toughest one to beat, no yet. They're fucking legitimate golfers. And so they're all going to be lower handicaps. They just hit the ball shorter than us, I guess, on average. But aside from that, they're dialed in from 150 yards out, and they have four shots. Right.

I mean, they would just beat us. It was Paige Ferrenic and her, like, three buddies from the LPGA tour, they would just, without question, beat us. Yeah. And it wouldn't be that close. Yeah, but that's where we got to be Think about the putting, too. Yeah, that's where we got to be We're going to stay away from those kinds of things.

Yeah, yeah. Riggs is cutting out a little bit, because I think he's going through some bad service. We might have just lost. We got, you guys, you guys are, so I'm looking at your guys a Zoom call, and the screens are popping in and out like crazy. Riggs will drop out, Frank, he'll drop out,

Frank, he'll come back in, Riggs will pop out, pop in, but I think you're all back in right now. A little nightmare it is. We're going to do the show on the road. It's just, it is. This defines show on the road, too. Everybody right now, besides Trent, is moving in, like, the opposite direction.

Yeah, we're testing the capabilities of Zoom right now. Yeah, when did you put that shirt on? I just put my phone down. I got to head to this meeting. You put on that shirt. I just bought it for $9 in New York. Woodstrom rack. No, but when did you wear?

You were wearing a t-shirt 10 seconds ago. Yeah, I was wearing a How did you do that? How did you go into that shirt? And now, um, I put the phone down for a quick second. I got the AC pumping because Trent,

you know how sweaty I got. I do, yeah. Um, I was like I realized from those reels where Larch just, it just, he just appeared in a different outfit. Hey. Hey.

Hey. That was cruel, man. We're two-in-up. That's the bottom line. Smart. We're two-in-up. So one of the from-the-gallery questions while we're on this topic, Greg asked, so if you guys are playing a 2-V-2 match within the four-play crew,

he's like, I know you guys been playing on the same team a lot lately, but if you're doing a big two-on-two match, who on the squad is your first choice that you want on your team? Wow. I think he was talking in terms of, like, ability versus hands. Yes. Yeah. Okay.

We're getting in here. There we go. That's the train conductor. He wants to say that. Hey, Mr. Conductor. Hey. Okay.

Here he is. That guy drives the train. You better get back to the front of the train. Well, don't they call, don't you call the conductor? Yes, correct. I was right. They're called conduct. Yeah.

Yeah. We're doing a little meeting here. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it. Can you ask him? What's the difference? What's the difference between the person who's driving?

the train and like what's the different what's that what's the other name the person's engineer oh you're right it is engineer yeah different union the whole thing oh wow different union god unions are complex got to make sense all right cool I appreciate that thank you sir there you go yeah different union different fucking engineer sounds like they're giving the train driver a lot of credit right that's what i kind of thought but then i didn't want to discredit them with that comment

have you ever watched dodd have you ever watched dodd do the fucking train simulator it's impossible to get these trains going it's amazing yeah i have watched that yeah i have wow um what it was really something we got going on today so i would say with regards to who's the first pick Frankie and I are number one in the Roo Cup, so we were the top dogs in Australia, which is nice to say. But I don't know, that's too, that's too much of like a short-term judge.

Because right now I would say I'm like one of the worst values in the group because I'm a four and a half and I just don't play to a four and a half right now. I mean the answer is very simple. I think every one of us six rigs as a partner just because he's just immensely better at short game. and in a scramble, you need to have two chips. And if me and Lurtz are paired together,

we're at night, the Nurtz make double bogeys and triple bogeys because we can't get the ball in the hole. Right, but Riggs can't get off the T right now. And that's why we're such a good team. Right, so if you paired that with any of us, like even Trent's getting off the T right now, if you pair that game with any of us,

it's Riggs and Trent, Riggs and Lurch, Riggs and me. That's the correct answer. You can't go any other combination. I don't know. I might have taken Lurch. Or she's just hitting the ball so well. Yeah, I don't know. It's tricky, but I agree.

Riggs is a short game is becoming laughable how good it is. Also, the thing that is like the amplifier to Riggs is a short game right now is every time there's a pressure spot, it's a tap-in next shot, which is just like a 10x multiplier of how good it's been. I must say, Lurge, your putt is yesterday. You drilled a bunch of puds without even getting a read. Yeah, I hit it. some quick ones when there wasn't a lot of people around.

Sometimes putts just look better than the rest. Like the hole just looks more available, more open, and you can just knock it in. And then happened to me twice yesterday, which was great on like 12 or 14 footers. But I do agree. Riggs is short game. From 50 yards and in,

it's becoming amazing how good you are right now. Yeah, I've never been like that before. Like it is getting, I don't know, I just feel incredibly good with. it to the point where like frankly saying like I want all three of you guys to hit bad shots so that I get to show off and hit my hit my chip shots I get that also also that's like if you're hitting drives out of bounds it's like well I need to be able to show that I'm capable of just generally doing something out here so I hope one of these guys misses this pot so I can

actually do something but but yeah my short game's good and I hit I mean even when I played when I played Jake Owen on Sunday one-on-one and I shot 79 and beat him, I hit four drives out of bounds. So it's like my driver right now can be really dicey. So I got to be good at. That's crazy. So it's been the shortcut. It actually pissed me off on the one hole when we all kind of hit bad drives into that

ravine area and Trent hit a perfect buttery cut down the hill and it like went to like 90 yards away from the hole. It was an impossible pin behind a bunker. And I remember I had a wedge and Lurt ended up like duffing one. Trent duffling back into the ravine on the second shot. And then it was me and Riggs with fucking wedges in our hand from 90 yards away. And I remember being like, oh, shit, like, this is going to be tough. And I hit a fucking perfect one.

Maybe the best 90-yard wedge I've ever hit. It went up onto the green pin high, checked up. And, like, people on the green were like, oh, shit. And then Riggs just hit one tighter after me. So, like, that's what I mean. Like, it's like we can't even get a break with this guy from 100 yards in. I do like that. I will say the other thing is about that.

I would be that same way, too. I know I would use my shot. I finally hit one. Yeah, you're always trying to help out of the team. And I will say, Riggs, since I've met him, his best stroke in his game is a 13-foot punt. It's just he's been sick at that for years,

and it's just we've played thousands of matches versus one another, and it's the most deflating thing in the world when I think I have, like, an advantage on the hole because I usually hit it better, and then he makes it 13-footer, and I miss a four-footer to lose the hole. And it's happened thousands of times. And I think that's like he's been his best shot forever.

So it's, yeah, short game's phenomenal. Yeah, I guess Riggs would be the top pick because you've got to get in the hole and he's doing that better than anybody here. I will say, I thought Frankie drove the ball extremely well yesterday. Yep. This is one big fucking cock-sucking fest right now.

Yeah, it is. We got all of our cocks in our own mouths. just a big bang of Dick just Sharon swabbing Oh boy What a horrendous vision

Sorry I know I got out to us and the listeners Really an unfortunate scene You put in our house But you know what I mean Our heads there Come on We got another

We got another from the gallery What is Bitton Chicka? What is Bitton Chicka saw it? It's playing tummy sticks I don't know I can call the coming six. You can hear your train breaking. Oh, shit.

The engineer's fucking firing an hour. All right. Well, what's the next stop from the gallery? Alex asks, if you get a hole in one on that sweet 19th hole at Paines Valley, does that count? 100%. That's an interesting one. That is interesting. You know, because we always say no.

almost always on this show, it's, if you basically, if you email in a question that starts out with, does this whole in one count if we say no. We say absolutely not. Just because for the most part, it's always some weird set of circumstances where it shouldn't count anyway.

Or you get one like at the cradle at Piner's where these two, Frankie and Riggs, might still claim to have one, but it's kind of clown golf a little bit. But at Paines Valley, that's just a regular normal hole that they've added on to an exquisite golf course. So, yeah, I would say no.

The more I think about it, I think it's just a clear no. Unless you deem that hole as part of your 18, then I think it's just like a pretty clear no. If you're saying like I'm going to start on the 19th and play through 17, then sure, it counts. But if you're just going to play 18 holes and then the 19th, you're just going to say like, I played that, then no.

However, I think what I would do to ensure that it counts is if I made a hole in one on the 19th and I played 19 holes and that was the 19th, I would just go around again and play to the 17th and call it another 18th. I just don't understand the argument and like where we draw the line on what's real and what's not. When like we're out there as amateur golfers, holy shit, I've just run out of breath because I walked up to stay. We're amateur golfers. We're amateur golfers and with like nothing matters that. we do. We take breakfast ball. I mean, I'm really helping him puffing right now. Oh my. Holy strong. That's the first of stairs I've loved up in a long time.

We're taking breakfast balls off ease. We're fucking taking give me puss from four feet out during match play. If our partner hits a good shot, we don't play it out. Like, you know what I mean? Like, it's just like we're amateurs out there playing golf. And if you get a whole one, you're just like counting it within that round. I just don't understand why. If you played around a golf, you step up to the 19th hole at Tiger Woods is fucking brand new course. With that backdrop, it literally looks like it's out of a video game.

And you hit a wedge or whatever hole. I don't know what the distance is. It's looking it was what, like 120 or something like that? Yeah, I think so. And you drain one, like, with a little bit of back spin and, like, the crowd goes crazy, your group goes nuts. Imagine trying to tell someone that doesn't

count because it wasn't within, like, the regulations of the 18 holes that you just played, like, what are we submitting? this to the fucking USDA for like to be like put on some fucking trophy like no played golf regardless of how many holes you play regardless of where you play and you got the ball on the hole in one shot yeah i could i couldn't agree more you know i'm 100% with franking truce bullshit like we pick and truth like oh that's not real go well well well the cradle is is not real like real golf but it is because you went out there and you played golf

Paines Valley is different. It's just like, I see I'm more leaning towards that Paines Valley counts because it's just like they added another full-length golf hole that's just out there. But that's why it's more, I feel like it counts more than, you know, a 60-yard shot at the cradle. That's very different to me. What if you finish Piner's number two and then you went on to the ninth pole at the cradle? It's like 110-yard par three to drain it. It doesn't count. What's the difference?

there's a difference. I think there's a big difference. And I think you know it because you had to say, if you finished up in Pioneer Number 2, you walk all the way over the cradle. Now you're on the ninth hole at the cradle. At Paine's Valley, it's just like, we played 18 holes.

Oh, look, they added a 19th one. Let's go play that one, too, and it goes in the hole. What if you played Sage Valley, where what we did, it's like one of my favorite golf course of all the time, we only played nine holes. And what if you played the back nine as the par three course?

And what if you got a hole? one on like the 13th bowl, even though the last nine holes are all part three. Even though that's the thing you can do, you can put the front nine as a regular force, like the regular full force, and then the back nine is down as the part three course. You're making my, you're making my head hurt with that, but I just, anytime, it's just like what you decide to play. It's like you just showed up to the, the t-box, and there's a hole there in regards

of the distance or whatever you've done prior, you just need to get the ball. Anytime, anytime you say, and I head, you head over to the par three course, you lose me. Okay. Well, I mean, you head over to the par three hole on a real court. I don't know what the difference is. You know there's a difference. I can't breathe. Thank you. What if you play nine holes and then on the 10th hole, you make a hole in one, but you don't finish? Right. Like, I would count that, right? Like, what if you can't finish because the weather or the sun went down? I'm like, what? Imagine telling a guy, like, a cabot or something?

Like, sorry, man. That whole one on the front nine doesn't count because we just didn't finish with the sun like that. I think that counts. The scenario that Lurch laid out, I think that counts. No, guys. I don't know. It's a tricky one.

I think we've lost three-fourths of this podcast right now in terms of, in terms of internet ability. Actually, I can see Lurchy's chewing on something. I got high chews going on. Jake Bass just texted me. Producer Jake Bass just texted me. He goes, Lurch, can you stop opening snacks on the podcast? I just crushed a whole bag of high cheese.

I love that you got called out for that. I mean, I walked through Penn Station the loudest place on Earth. He won't let you have your nutrition that you need from meeting to meeting, but I'm allowed to walk through Manhattan, maybe the loudest place on Earth. Big Bass has got a thing out for me. I can't tell Frankie to just not be. doing what he's doing. He has to be doing it. You were just eating a snack. Here's from the clouds. I mean, I need nutrition, Jake. Do you need an apple or not? Eat an apple. All right, guys,

I got to the office. I got to hop off the podcast. All right, boys. I think it counts. I think that whole on one counts. We'll discuss, I imagine, you know, more whole one stuff pretty much forever. It's always going to be a debate on this show.