Fore Play - AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am Week 2017 w/ Willy Wilcox
Episode Date: February 8, 2017The Golf Boys interview Willy Wilcox, recap the Phoenix Open, talk about animals you are most likely to kill on the course, and reveal which celebrities they'd most like to pair up with!You can find e...very episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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So moving right along, waste management, reaction.
That's right.
I love the tournament.
Everybody loves the tournament.
It's a great tournament.
The tournament is unbelievable.
it went to, it was four playoff holes.
Did it go four playoff holes last year as well?
I can't remember how many, I think that might be right.
It might have been Matsuyama and Fowler.
Went into, you know, well into the first half again of the Super Bowl.
That's kind of the bad rap that it gets is it's like, oh, I love this golf tournament.
We talked about it last week.
I love that the golf tournament leads up to the Super Bowl.
It gives me something to watch that's not pregame coverage.
And then it kind of shoots itself in the foot when it's people are like, well, I mean, I love golf.
but Super Bowl is a Super Bowl.
People are going to flip over.
So a lot of people probably missed a pretty good ending of that golf tournament.
Definitely.
And we, you know, we had some people kind of being like,
hey, I'm going to a Super Bowl pre-game and everyone's to watch the, you know,
the pre-supel, all the pre-game coverage and all that.
How can I watch golf?
It is true.
It's tough to kind of skip over that to watch the golf.
But I think the finale, Sunday, kind of how the whole week went,
spoke to pro golf, I think it's in a good spot.
I mean, even though it was, you know, it was on had a one-shot lead on Laird.
Yep.
And then he had a four-shot lead on a huge packet that were at 12 under going into the final round.
And it was still incredibly compelling.
Yeah, if on just kind of, on made it interesting because he didn't play that well on Sunday.
If he shoots, you know, a number in the high 60s, he runs away with it.
It did not go that way.
And then, you know, Matsuyama comes out of nowhere, not out of nowhere, but he does Matsuyama things.
Yeah, and credit to me for making it interesting for my.
because I bet on on.
That's right.
At plus 175 when I woke up and I did, you know, this is a little trick, an old podcast,
number one podcaster trick that if you're not overly thrilled with the leaderboard,
you can really make it interesting by just betting your harder money on it.
Yeah.
So I did that and then I was just on the edge of my seat when he missed that short put
coming down the stretch in the back nine, I jumped out of my chair.
I gasped.
That was devastating.
So it, I will say that betting.
this Sunday betting on it was effective.
The effect you want is you want to care.
You want it to matter.
I lost money, sure.
That's what the haters will say.
It was electric.
I love watching the coverage.
And I don't want to say we never root for people to collapse.
Like if somebody's going to win, they're going to win.
Because you and I were texting back and forth.
And I was like, man, something needs to happen here.
I didn't say the word collapse if we want to have an interesting tournament.
And you're like, that's true.
But I bet money on the on.
So I don't want it to go too far.
And unfortunately it did.
I'm pretty sure you literally said we need to.
huge collapse here. That could be true in your text. But anyway, we got the playoff between Webb
Simpson, Hedekhi Matsuyama, four holes, great birdie on 17. That 17th hole, the drivable
par four, there's water. Simpson got himself kind of over on the right with a weird angle.
Couldn't quite make the two-putt birdie. Hedeky did. He made, I don't know what it was,
12 feet or something like that. So phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal finish. That guy has, and we
had our stat guy, producer Rob.
He's got three wins, two seconds, a tie for six, and has not finished outside the top
33 in his last eight PGA tour starts.
That's unbelievable.
He's a star.
We know, I mean, everybody, he was probably everybody's hot pick to be the next guy who's
going to break out, and it seems to be right on course.
I hated the pause at the top a little while ago.
I'm all in now.
You are?
I might start implementing it.
I might put like a pause in my stride when I just walk around the office.
I'd say putting it in your swing is going to mess some things up.
Definitely, but I think it's worth it for what you're looking for at the end.
Whatever he's doing, it's working.
He was killing the ball, too.
The one thing we do have to mention that everybody's kind of on top of now on social media is his ridiculous.
You know, he throws his arms up and drops his club and disgust every swing and he just pipes it right down the fucking middle.
Even the golf announcers who usually, you know, they love the players.
They love talking about the players.
A guy like Matsuyama and up and comer who's playing really well.
Even they were like, he's got to stop doing that.
where he swings one-handed through, acts like it's going to be horrible,
then it's, you know, $3.50 down the middle.
And if you do that, like, once a month or something, it's always funny.
Yeah.
And there's even, you know, they chop up clips where it's always funny and interesting when they do that
because, like, yes, they kind of miss hit it and they're so good that they don't love
when they don't flush it, but it worked out great.
He does it more often than he doesn't.
It's insane.
There's not any, like, Matsiyama is pretty vanilla in terms of, do you like him, do you
hate him?
You start doing things like that and people are going to start hating you.
Yeah, and again, I want to like it because it's kind of sweet.
I don't know.
Is he fucking with us?
They're trolling us?
I have no idea.
I have no idea.
And it wasn't like he was doing it and like, instead of going in the water, it went
285 down the middle.
He's hit like 340.
I hope someone asking about it.
I didn't see anyone asking the question about it.
I hope they did.
Next segment, on to headlines.
Pretty simple.
We're going to go with this one.
Tiger Woods withdrew after one round in Dubai.
In the middle of the night for us here back.
in a state. That's a hard thing to wake up to. You're like, all right, Tiger he shot, what, a 77 is
first round? So you know he's probably not going to make the cut. But our running theme, we said
it last week, the bar for Tiger has changed now. It's make a cut and also be healthy, don't hurt your
back. He did not clear the lowest bar on our, on it. It's not good. No, he sure didn't. And I had,
you know, we had all written several times in the weeks leading up to this that, hey, you know what,
A victory at this point is him just not grabbing his back and withdrawing.
He literally withdrew with back spasms in back-related fucking shit issues.
Yeah, they tried to pass it off that it wasn't nerve-related.
That's what the big thing is.
They said it's just spasms.
He couldn't get it worked out.
I don't know.
Here's the thing about Tiger right now.
It's I don't really care if he's actually hurt or if he's just frustrated and he doesn't
want to play that in Dubai anymore.
So he's like, I'm going to pull out.
All that matters is he's not playing.
And that's all people care about.
100%.
And so you're right
They try to do damage control
They tried to spin it
Oh it's not related
I mean the guy literally was out for fucking a year and a half
Because of back surgeries
He withdrew because back related fucking issues
Yeah don't I mean don't like it's like
It's like it's raining
Just don't do that we don't like that
And also there was the
Little underlying storyline
Where Tyre obviously got a huge
appearance fee to go to that tournament
And I'm pretty sure he gets to keep that money
Regardless
Like if you withdraw with injury
I think you get to keep the appearance
feet, which makes things a little more interesting.
You would really think Tiger, with the last, you know, eight years he's had in particular,
and then his whole career and all the money he's made overall, really wouldn't care about that.
Totally.
And would, I mean, we were, everybody was kind of talking.
It's a little aggressive that he's going to play in Cali, fly all the way to fucking Dubai commercial,
and then come back, have one week off and then go Genesis and then Honda Classic.
But he did it.
It clearly didn't work out.
It did not work.
But with the back spasm thing, now it's like, all right, they're saying he's still going to play the ones that he had planned to play.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, hopefully it's just a little bit of a hiccup.
I don't really know.
It's tough.
It is, it was kind of a double, tough breaking of the news for me because I stumbled home.
We had a late night in the office Thursday night.
Stumbled home and I picked up, there's a McDonald's right next to my apartment building.
Mm-hmm.
24-Hard McDonald's clutch.
Phenomenal, one of the greatest inventions of all time.
Go in, I got like two, now they do the 24-hour breakfast, too.
I got like two breakfast sandwiches and a hash brown.
Yeah.
Sit in my bed.
I'm like, ooh, the Euro thing's on.
I wonder if Tiger's tea it off.
Throw it on.
Literally the first fucking thing they say,
oh my God, we're getting it across the wire, the news.
Tiger just withdrew from the tournament.
I'm like laying in a fucking pile of filth food.
I'm like, what the hell's going on here?
So I blogged it and then kind of woke up and had like forgotten that everything happened.
Yeah.
And then like check my phone and was like, had to find out again the Tiger and Woodtron.
So a little bit of a double kick to the nuts there.
Props to you for admitting that story.
You could have very much just owned the line of I'm such a Tiger fan.
I'm such a golf fan that I stayed up all night and I wanted to watch this tournament.
Instead, nope, you were just shit-faced coming home at the right time slash wrong time.
Because I woke up in the middle of the night.
I do that sometimes.
You just wake up.
Oh, yeah.
And then you check Twitter.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, because we're, that's like our life.
Yeah, just like, I got about 30 seconds here while I'm awake.
I'm going to check Twitter.
And I see that he withdrew.
And you kind of, as the blogger thing goes, you go, all right, I either blog it right now or I wait
for the morning and risk somebody else going to blog it and people are going to be maddy.
Yep, 100%.
And then I went on the bars to the lap.
My boy Rigsie already had it.
Shitface Rigsie.
I was getting a bunch of like, even a bunch of the tweets coming in and whatnot.
People being like, look at Rigsie up, grind at 330.
morning you don't see everybody do with that and i was like already asleep
because i was like that's another that's the thing you but you just admitted that it wasn't that
and i you know i respect you for that honesty is the best policy uh we got the air
jordan i believe they're calling them the the what are they then the jordan one golf shoe is that
they're calling them yep that's everybody's talking about them um you know the main reason i kind of
wanted to bring it up and my input on it is that I do experiment with golf fashion.
I put a tweet out a couple weeks ago of some bold shoes.
Bold slash hideous shoes that I bought Impulse bought a couple weeks ago.
They're like black and like turquoise and yellow Nike shoes.
So these are better than those, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
They're definitely better than those.
It's interesting.
Where do you fall on Jordan golf shoes?
That's really the main question.
Yeah.
And I think, again, we were kind of, you know, you would have.
were just shooting the shit talking about it.
We kind of settled on, you can't suck and wear those.
No, you have to be a skillful player, or you have to be what Chigin Bradley is, or you have
to, like, personally know Michael Jordan to be like, yeah, I can rock these shoes.
Yeah, absolutely.
There's nothing worse than the guy that comes out dressed, like, head to toe and, like, flashy
matching all gear, and it's just brutal.
Yeah, which, I mean, I feel like the people who want to be like, hey, I want to rock Jordans
on the golf course, are the people who are going to come out in full Jordan everything.
Just full Jordan everything and then they're going to stick.
Yeah, 100%.
I mean, people might even, like, guys that do that for, like, pick up basketball might buy those on accident and, like, bring them to their pickup basketball game.
They're good looking, though.
They were good looking.
We are, you and I have talked about golf shoes not on the air, just about, like, guys coming out with shoes now.
Some of them aren't great.
These look awesome.
You just have to be pretty awesome at golf to wear them.
Yeah.
So I agree.
I think, you know, I also never like to, like, just shit on other people's fashion because, like, who am I?
Right.
Like I'm an idiot.
Sometimes I just think things look good and I acquire them and wear them.
Those shoes are a great example.
Right, 100%.
So I'm not standing on some high horse being like, oh, you have terrible fashion.
If you wear those, if you wear them, you can pull it off and you're a good player, good for you.
And another thing, golf announcers and Pierce are going to hate the shoes, which makes me like the shoes.
Definitely.
Like I remember when Ricky played with the high tops and the joggers, the announcers almost had a heart attack.
And that made me like them even more.
anything that disrupts the status quo with all the fashion, I think I'm on board with.
Totally agree.
When I first saw Ricky and the joggers, I didn't love them.
Then when I saw the outrage or whatever hell you want to call it, the reaction to it, I started to love him.
So it's kind of a little bit of a fuck you to like classic, you know, golf this, that, whatever.
So I like them.
I don't hate them.
Again, if you can pull them off, you're good player.
Go ahead.
Power to you.
My boy, Stephen Bodech.
This, yep.
In trouble this week.
He played Thursday, didn't play great, got what they're calling, quote-unquote, extreme DUI,
went, was able to get, you know, was able to go do his little court appearance, get out of there,
and then play his second round.
Yep.
Missed the cut.
This was gigantic news.
Yeah.
Everyone's kind of tweeting it at me.
You ended up blogging it.
I do just want to say, I do, the reason is because I do the Stephen Bodech Memorial DFL Award every week that fucking last.
I picked someone that's going to finish last the tournament
last year when I started doing this.
It was very frequently slash every weekend.
It was Stephen Bodech.
She just wasn't playing that great.
He's hilarious on Twitter.
Great dude.
It's all in good fun.
And so this, I did not like to see this.
This sucked.
He's got a history, which we'll get into a little bit,
but always pulling for Stephen Bodech.
He's a great dude.
Yeah, so we're Barcelona Sports.
We like to have comedic angles on everything.
You know, we want to put up,
we want to be an escape for everybody, you know,
things going on in the workday and all that this is not one of those things really uh when you know the
boatage's past where he was suicidal alcoholic depression all that stuff it's tough so it's like
you see something like that and like he's a great dude we want to see him get well it's there's no
jokes here there's no jokes here no and so bell from ESPN i believe it was who had pinned an
article from a couple years ago kind of detailing some of what bodage had gone through and all that
um so again he's awesome dude
he's always taken everything in stride.
He's very self-deprecating.
So, you know, we're always pulling for that dude.
Nobody got hurt or anything crazy like that.
Thankfully, he was able to make his tea time Friday, which is nuts.
That's the thing.
And now if we can take it just a little bit like it's the week of the waste management, he made his tea time.
There's a story there where you could be like, oh, this is, this is that.
But it's, you just feel, you just want the guy to get better.
Totally agree.
Yeah, I hope he's in a good place, pulling for Bodech.
Again, he's the man.
I think we're all very, very pro-boated.
So again, we hope it's not some deeper issue, anything crazy like that.
He has won, you know, three or four times on tour and all that.
So hope he gets back to all that, never rooted against him.
Moving on, player feelings.
Yep.
One of our favorite segments.
It is.
A couple guys we're going to run through today.
Sergio Garcia did win while Tiger was withdrawling.
Sergio won.
He beat Enric Stenson down the stretch.
I think he ended up winning by about three shots.
Sergio has been a little bit of an up and down guy.
Yeah, and it's the same with the second guy that we're going to talk about.
I think people have grown to like Sergio more as the year's good older,
where that wasn't that way in the past.
Now people, when he's contending, they want him to win.
I do not feel that way.
I root for Sergio to fail.
That sounds really bad, as I said it.
But it's entertaining to me.
Like, when there's Sergio is contending on the stretch and there's water on the hole,
I feel like his ball has a magnet to the water,
and a little part of me is like, yeah,
I hope this collapse happens.
First of all, I want to say a huge shout out to you
for teasing the second player that we're going to talk about.
That's a number one podcast.
That's a number one podcast.
That was really nice.
You know, I just, I don't root necessarily against Sergio now
as much as I used to.
Right.
Because he's kind of become like a sympathetic figure.
It's like sad.
Yeah.
Like, you know,
like my whole house erupted.
in applause when he missed that put to win the British Open against Patrick Harrington.
And it lipped out.
We went nuts.
Like we fucking hated Sergio at that time.
And then, you know, over the years he's had the whole thing where he's like,
well, I played really bad this year because I was depressed about a girlfriend and ex-girlfriend.
And then he had another year where he just flat out came out and said,
I don't have what it takes to win a major.
So when you do those kinds of things, you become a sympathetic figure.
And you almost become like a non-threat to the guys that we really care about.
Mm-hmm. But then he does things like, you know, when he bitched about somebody, or Tiger pulling a club in his back swing in the crowd going nuts at the players.
I believe that was when Tiger won it in 13 at Sawgrass.
So I'm very up and down about Sergio.
I definitely don't really root for him, but in a sympathetic way, I don't really mind him anymore.
I kind of like him in a sympathetic way.
Okay.
But the quote about him saying, I don't have the stuff to win majors.
I think that's him being transparent and that's interesting.
I can't root for a guy like that.
I, you can't, you're not going to, you saying that means you're not going to win one.
And it's rare for me not to feel that way because usually I'm pretty ruthless.
Yeah.
And cut throat.
And I love that like Tiger text people, I'm uplifting basically bitch, what are you doing?
And four in the morning and stuff like that.
But again, I don't, I don't know what it is.
I don't know if I have a soft spot for him.
I don't know if I just think that he's pathetic.
So I don't feel too much hate towards him.
I don't really know what it is.
But anyway, he won.
after all that talk.
He fucking won.
His swing is great to watch the way that he just rips, you know, his woods, even off the
tea when he takes his three woods, it takes massive divvits.
I don't know how the hell you do that.
He rips the ball.
He's always been one of the best ball strikers.
So an impressive win, beating Henrik down the stretch, who, that guy's an absolute machine.
So shout out to Sergio for winning.
I guess.
Shout out to Sergio for winning.
Phil Nicholson.
Lefty.
great logo he's rocking this year he's got the silhouette of him jumping up in the air
yep it's a great logo now that I think about it we might have to get a shirt on that
some sort of t-shirt yeah we'll cut this part yeah there's definitely yeah yeah we'll definitely
cut this you'll never hear this part but uh he's been playing really well he's been in the mix
he made a little bit of a charge before it kind of falling off um on Sunday but I mean the
guy's old he's getting up there and people are already been like oh you think you know
Phil's going to play on the Champions Tour and all that?
No.
No.
The guy could be winning on the PGA Tour right now.
He's, and like you kind of mentioned when you tease it, he's a little bit Sergio-esque
in that.
I feel like a lot more people used to root against Phil.
Now I just, I don't know how you don't just love the guy.
No, I feel the same way.
The show him and Henrik put on at the British Open last year, I mean, that endeared so many people.
Yeah, I feel the way about Phil, like the opposite of the way I feel about Sergio.
I'm now rooting for Phil.
He's a good guy.
He's doing the thumbs up.
You know, behind the scenes, he's a big gambler.
Oh, yeah.
I like that he has sort of the family guy image, and then behind the scenes, he's like,
just wants to, you know, play for money, all that shit.
That's interesting.
Yeah, as he gets older.
He's 46 now.
He's not slowing down.
He looks as good as he's ever looked.
I think we're going to be hearing from Phil for at least the next couple of years.
Yeah, even as you were just saying that, he almost has kind of had the opposite,
likeability trajectory in my mind of Bubba Watson.
who Bubba at first, like you said last show, on paper is very likable.
His name's Bubba, which is great.
He's a lefty, which always makes you stick out.
He kind of works the ball.
He plays aggressive, which you just want to love that.
But the more that he had success, and the more you heard from him and all that,
the more he started to be like, kind of fuck this guy's an asshole.
Yeah.
Phil's like the opposite.
I kind of at first was like, eh, you know, I don't know.
We got Tiger, and they were going head to head,
and I was rooting heavily for Tiger, obviously.
Yeah, against Phil.
And then the more that he's in the media,
the more you hear him to do interviews,
the more stories you hear that add to his lore,
the more I fucking love Phil.
How much do you think Phil,
he would never say this publicly,
loves that he is healthy and playing well,
and Tiger is just can't even play two rounds of golf.
Has to love it.
Just behind the scenes,
just got to be like,
because obviously Tiger dominated his era
that was always Tiger, Tiger, Tiger.
Now people are just, it's Phil,
because Phil can actually play.
Yeah, and Phil, you know,
they always downplayed it.
the rivalry and all that to the media.
And they rightfully so because the media loves to play that shit up.
And they're very rarely, you know, maybe at Bay Hill once off the top of my head,
but they very rarely even went head to head.
Right.
And you, but you know it's there.
It's got to feel good.
And Phil's way too crafty with the media.
He always, you know, takes the high ride.
He's like an awshucks guy.
Big time.
Yeah, he is an awshucks guy.
So you're right.
That's definitely in there.
I didn't think about that.
But, yeah, I think Phil's on the rise.
He hasn't won in a while, even though he's been in the mix,
and the Ryder Cup is obviously one of the biggest weeks of his life.
That was, yeah, it was Phil's Ryder Cup.
So hope Phil will be in the mix this year.
Maybe we'll get at least one out of Phil or Tiger will be healthy and in the mix.
Yep.
That's player feelings.
We're going to go through those pretty much every week, whoever's kind of on the radar
that we think we should clarify or talk about.
Those are subject to change.
We could do, I forget who we did the first week, but that player could rub us the wrong way.
We can change these whenever we want.
I might hate Sergio next.
week.
Yeah.
I might hate,
I'm never going to hate Zach Johnson,
but, you know,
that's what we mean.
It could change.
What would it take for you to hate Zach John?
He would have to be, like,
he would have to say,
I don't,
I don't want to be from Iowa anymore.
What if he was lying and he's like,
I'm just kidding,
I've never been from Iowa.
Then I would hate him.
Okay.
I will work on that.
Okay.
All right.
Next up,
we got our interview with our boy Will,
Willie Willcox.
A little bit of a stool.
has always interacted with me a little bit.
I think both of us on Twitter and all that.
Great dude.
Fan of the show.
Everybody please enjoy this interview with our boy, Willie Wilcox.
All right.
This is our second official guest.
We're joined by Willie Wilcox.
First of all, Willie, how are you?
Where are you right now?
I'm in Alabama.
There literally could be a tornado at any point in the next two hours.
I'm seeing my girlfriend in Alabama.
So, Birmingham.
You got a tornado.
a warning down there or what?
No, it's not on the ground, but there's the tornadoes the tornadic activity.
This happens about 10 times a year, so I'm not actually worried about it.
I'm going to say, I'm not rooting for a tornado to rip through during this interview,
but that would be kind of an electric podcast.
Yeah, would we have, Rob, do we have, like the video?
Can we, were we recording the video if that happens?
We'll have to work on that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We'll talk to our tech team.
But yeah, they're giving us a thumbs up.
Yeah, sure.
Grizzly looking out there right now, but I'm perfectly comfortable in the kitchen.
Well, thanks for joining us in a deathly situation, potentially.
No problem.
You know, I'm very brave like that.
I'll do anything for the attempt at fame.
So we're going to start off probably the thing you're most famous for.
One of the more electric things I've ever seen, your hole in one, 17th hole,
sawgrass last year, 2016.
First of all, I mean, walk us through that a little bit.
One of the most treacherous holes you walked up.
I believe it was Friday, right?
Second round?
Yeah, yeah.
It was like just my standard, like, cut-hugging crap that I do every week if I'm playing well.
I'm going down the back nine, just, you know, nervous or whatever.
And I'm like two or three under one.
And I think I'm two inside of the cut line, but, you know, I still got 10 holes to play
or 11 holes to play.
And, you know, I just step on that tee and make that horrendous sling.
wing where I lashed at it and um and it went in and the only thing that I was thinking was like
all right now we got a really good chance of making the cut um because last place is like 20 grand
that week oh um so I'm like that would be that would be nice even if I played like shit on the
weekend so uh anyway so that went in and uh I just went crazy and the guys in my group
went crazy too um so that kind of added to the you know that threw fuel and the fire um and
My family was there, and this is the moment was just chaos.
So, unfortunately, we were watching it before, and that had to be the most electric celebration for a Friday shot of all time.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Well, I mean, you know, I just get the whole thing out there is everything's pretty, you know, just hyped up.
I mean, if you do anything good, especially in a tournament with that many people, you know, it gets pretty, I mean, I don't know how the guys don't get more excited.
you know tiger would go nuts like that so oh yeah yeah no i don't blame you for going nuts because
it was uh first one in 14 years like 6300 attempts i would have gone just as crazy as you i don't
blame you one bit yeah i think i think i might have dove in the water or something yeah yeah
a whole and what i literally said that i do i do appreciate you uh the comments about your swing
i also laughed out loud at i believe it was david ferdy who was covering it and he called it
an interesting squirm at that one.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, that's what it is.
At that time, I mean, I wish I could have done it the year before because my swing
looked pretty good then.
I mean, you should see us swing.
I mean, it's.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I've been doing it for 21 years now.
So, you know, I should, I should, the way I was taught wasn't to, you know, have some
real beautiful swing.
We were just trying to hit it out of the dirt at the goat ranch I grew up on in Alabama.
What do you do with the ball, the hole in one ball?
I gave it to my caddy, and he's got a bar in Atlanta, and it's on the wall at the bar.
Very cool.
Oh, that's awesome.
That's actually a good little spot for it.
Again, I probably would have just thrown mine in the water in a fit of excitement.
Yeah, I gave it to Mick for whatever reason.
Mick's a good buddy, Australian dude.
He's the guy with the tattoos all over his legs in the video.
He's the cool dude.
All those Australian older caddies are generally pretty laid back guys.
So we were very professional here.
We were doing our classic research beforehand,
getting our history up on Willie Wilcox.
And the first thing, we just have to comment on this.
We don't know if you're aware of this.
The first thing we looked up,
you type in Willie Wilcox into Google.
You go Google images.
And there's like a fucking pirate ghost in a cave.
And there's like a thousand pictures.
Are you aware of this thing?
No, no, no.
It's legit.
It's like Will Wilcox,
the pirate ghost and there's like thousands of pictures of like a pirate ghost in a cave.
I've seen there was like an old like gold miner that was named Willie Wilcox or something.
I've seen that on there.
You mean just the images of.
So yeah, if you like go exclusively to images for all the listeners out there, look it up,
it's not what you're expecting when you're looking up a PGA tour player.
Oh, Willie Wilcox.
When you look up Willie Wilcox.
Yeah, yeah, Willie Willie.
I think it was Willie Wilcox.
We looked up and it was just will Wilcox is normal stuff.
But the Y is pretty new.
So definitely don't go look up Will.
We want Willie.
Our leaders want the weird stuff, I think.
Nice.
Yeah, sounds good.
So let's go back.
Speaking of history, you know, you graduate college.
You were three-time All-American.
Is that correct?
Yeah, yeah, the little D-2 in Atlanta.
Yeah.
And so you, I mean, you make the decision.
I'm going to be a pro golfer.
Trent and I were kind of talking because we're not good enough to be anywhere near pro, pretty much anything.
What's that like?
I mean, what do you, once you decide, all right, I'm going to be a pro.
I mean, what do you got to do?
Where do you start out?
Where do you go?
I mean, you know, you just kind of grow up in it, you know, when you're playing junior
tournaments instead of like little league baseball, you know, I mean, I played little league
ball until I was like 12.
But once you become like a one sport guy, you know, once you pick golf, you know, and I'm playing
every day anyways.
I'd say from the age eight to 16 when I got my car, I definitely didn't.
I didn't miss a single day, you know what I mean, ever.
Because my mom was a professional.
So I just rode to work with her.
So honestly, it's just a natural progression of it.
I didn't even think about it.
You know, I mean, you just, you show up in a tournament that costs money to play in.
Yeah, and where, I mean, do you just start accumulating right out of the gate?
You're playing well.
You start accumulating money to buy those entry fees.
I mean, what's that grind like?
Oh, no, I mean, you get a financial backer.
I mean, my folks didn't have the cash.
A lot of people have parents, a lot of people that get,
good enough to be professional golfers,
normally have rich parents.
I'm unfortunately not one of those,
but I had a guy that was basically like an uncle who was rich.
So he gave me money.
And it's like $2,500, $3,000 a week to play.
And he basically said that he would pay that no matter what for four years.
That's awesome.
And that meant unlimited, you know, go.
And I would keep like 60% of my earnings,
which was pretty damn good.
most people get totally screwed on that on the front end if you have, you know, non-wealthy parents.
That seems like a pretty great arrangement to give you. You got four years to kind of give this thing a shot.
Yeah, yeah. And so, but then I started out really solid and started doing good. And, you know, in 2010, I won a couple of events for like $40,000. And that was my first full year. So I ended up making about $250,000 on the course that year. And so that was a sign that, obviously, let's try to keep this thing going.
Yeah, I think that's awesome too because, you know, we kind of pit the podcast as more like for the common golfer, right?
The normal dude is out on the weekend playing golf, whatever.
So I think that type of guy really appreciates the kind of story of, you know, you don't necessarily get out of college and you just got everything made.
You're not flying around to different tournaments on private jets.
I mean, it's a struggle.
You're out there playing for your livelihood.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, honestly, I was still a kid when I turned pro.
So it was just fun.
I was just riding around in my little car.
I was putting probably 70,000 miles a year.
That's amazing.
Little dumper, Pontiac G6.
And, I mean, I had a great time.
Like, I mean, it was roughing it a little bit, but, I mean, it was still a hell of a lot of fun.
I mean, just you're out there with your buddies.
And you're not that far from home.
So if you miss a cut, just drive back in Bama anyways.
So, yeah, Drette and I were talking as it was Hooters tour for a couple years.
I mean, what's the scene like out there, guys going out, or as soon as you're done at the event,
are you just going straight home?
Yeah, I mean, definitely some going out.
I mean, a lot of it, you know, the Hooters Girls were there on the Wednesday programs.
And so, like, there was guys always chasing.
So you're not going anywhere.
Yeah, yeah.
So they didn't want to go too far.
But it was always in podunk town.
So it's not like, you know, we're in whatever, Chicago or something.
We were in Hawkinsville, Georgia and on some army base in, like, Fort Worth.
bending, whatever, just some Army course.
You know, there's not exactly a lot of, anyway.
So, yeah, I mean, there's a lot of going out and golf.
A lot of golfers drink.
A lot of golfers have a lot of fun.
So, yeah, the Hooters store is no different.
That's good because we drink, too.
Yeah.
So it's perfect.
We can totally relate.
We're basically pro golfers.
Yeah, golf is, yeah, every, we all do it, you know, maybe we hit the ball a little bit better.
But a lot of people are drinking at this level.
This party can pour it down your throat at the tour.
That's great to know.
See, we always had a, we knew that.
We just, it's nice to get a conversation.
It's a leisurely game, you know what I mean?
People are pretty chilling, you know, they're relaxed.
Yeah, for sure.
So we also were talking, you're from Birmingham where you are now, right?
Yeah, I'm from right down the road in a smaller town.
And then during the year, I mean, where are you stationed out of you?
Are you down in Florida?
Jupiter, yeah, Jupiter.
Okay, got you.
Jupiter is the way you can play off year round.
Yeah, that's where a lot of the guys are and kind of,
where they make their home base.
I feel like there's a good crew down there.
So again, kind of get back to the common golfer type thing.
I mean, if you're just playing around,
let's say you've got a couple weeks before you've got a tournament coming up,
what kind of games you out there playing with the guys?
Is it pretty you guys gambling?
You kind of drinking or is it real serious?
What's that kind of seems like?
Not a ton of drinking during the games.
Sometimes you'll have a beer at the end of the round.
But, no, generally we're playing $100 Nassau, auto one or two downs.
I mean, you can end up losing.
you know, 700 to your grand if you play bad, which is, you know, that's not a ton,
but it's still like, you know, gets the juices flowing, especially if you're playing good,
you're winning anyways.
Yeah, and everybody always loves about to talk about the Tuesday game with Fowler and Phil and those guys,
and that's kind of the whole point that they always try to get at is you want the juices
to be flowing because you want it to be relatable to a real route.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, and I heard a funny thing last week.
We asked a dude, me and Loop, we're on the range who was Patton, and I was like,
I was like, hey, do you want to play with us and wait a little bit?
It was on like a Sunday.
And he was like, no, I'm good.
I'm just going to go play.
And then he went up with the tee.
And then he was back like five minutes later.
And he was like, I literally can't even pull the club back if it's not for any money.
I love that.
I thought that was a pretty awesome comment.
Yeah.
No, I respect the shit out of that.
Totally.
And I feel like, too, I mean, if you guys are going to be used to playing out there,
whether it's for your livelihood or whether you're playing for millions of dollars,
it's got to be tough to really get the juices flowing unless you're playing for something.
Yeah, I mean, if you're trying to like learning something new, it's always evolving, you know, unfortunately.
I wish it could be the same all the time.
But there will be a decent amount of time where I'll just go play by myself and just hit drivers, you know, just T-balls and stuff.
But, yeah, you got to, it's a lot better, a lot more fun when it's for something.
Yeah, so to speak to that kind of, I guess, a little bit.
What's the day to day, right?
You're kind of in Bama right now.
You're with some family with a girlfriend.
Are you out practicing?
And if you are, you know, like what kind of regiment are you hitting like 2,000 chips?
Are you like, what's that look like on a day to day?
Nothing too specific.
I mean, I chip a lot.
I mean, when I was playing really well, I was, you know, it's fun to chip when you're hitting, you know,
nipping it and like hitting great shots around the grains.
Right now I'm not quite sure where it's bottoming out.
But, no, currently the weather sucks here.
So I knew this was going to be a three-day layoff, you know.
Gotcha.
I knew coming here, which is fine, because I'm going to play my four rehab starts on the web
because I'm like, I don't know where the hell it's going.
But I, these days are off.
Tomorrow I fly back to Jupiter and I'll get right back into it.
More than likely, I'll just go grab a cart and just chip around and play some holes.
Generally, there's no one in town right now.
Like all the web's gone and the tour.
So the next, you know, I like to chip a ton.
I mean, and it's nothing too specific.
It's mostly like out of really bad lies around the grains.
I try to just practice out of, you know, shitty lies as much as possible.
Because then when you get on tour, the lies are always going to be pretty good.
Yeah, I always wonder that because you always hear the announcers, you know, some guy will get some fucked up lie, you know, at a big moment.
And they're always like, no, he practices this.
And I'm like, does he?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's more about out of the bad lies than the.
good lies, honestly.
Yeah, for sure.
So it's good to know.
But keep putting that time in.
We appreciate it.
You had talked a little bit about, well, you were on the Hooters tour and then you played, obviously, PGA tour events.
What's the biggest difference when you're showing up to, because I feel like when you
showed up to a PGA tour event, everything's pristine, there's balls waiting for you.
Is that, I mean, as you go down the tours is a lot different when you show up?
Not on the web.
I mean, the web is great.
That's all pro-vis and generally nice grass.
I mean, some of the courses you play south of the border, it gets a little more, you know, sparse.
But, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, the Hooters Tour was still decent golf balls.
Back then, the Hooters Tour actually had money.
Now it really doesn't.
I'm sure it kind of, I'm sure it isn't, isn't too flashy now.
I mean, it's definitely not.
Like, when we were playing, it was like 35K for the win, 40K.
And then now it's like 10 grand.
And then nobody wants to play.
So it's, yeah, playing on those lesser tours in the smaller markets and the little
towns. I mean, that's definitely a different vibe. I mean, when you get to the tour, you're in, like,
Los Angeles and San Francisco and San Diego. I mean, it's just, you name it. Every place you
goes is awesome. Yeah. This last weekend, waste management, speaking of, you know, awesome about
as big as it gets. I think the number was six something, hundred thousand. Yeah, they had like
$206,000 on the biggest day, and that's one day. Yeah. So a shit ton of people, you know, the biggest event,
really spectating wise that they got uh what's you know what's it like playing in that
environment is it really when you roll up to 16 is it that much different you kind of just
focused on what you're doing it doesn't mess with you what's the deal there it's definitely
it's definitely a good bit different but i mean you know you don't you only get the booze on 16
you know like if you hit a bad shot they only boo you on that all um because it's accepted
it's accepted there you know what i mean like if you boo somebody in another situation that's
not really that cool of a move um but uh
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's 16 is like dream come true stuff. You know what I mean? I mean, it's as cool as it gets.
So you like you like that? You like that. Because I feel like there's some guys that shy away from it. You kind of embrace that situation.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what sucked the other day when I was playing like shit on Friday. I was looking at my caddy like, man, if I was playing good, this would be so much fun.
Because they're literally chanting my name like for three straight holes.
Like I got a Willie Wilcox chant walking down 18 from like,
the T-box to my golf ball.
I mean, that's like an eight-minute walk.
They're chanting, and I'm just like, damn it.
I mean, I just wish I could have made the cut because I really would have been like
a fan favorite, which is always so cool.
But right now I'm still kind of in search mode.
But it was still, I appreciated the shit out of it.
I was just like, I was like, the damage is done, but thank you.
I think people always find an interesting kind of hearing a little bit about that
banter with your caddy.
out there because he's the only guy you got and Trent and I were kind of talking.
We're like, we think it would be a really good question to ask everybody we have on, you know,
what are you guys talking about out there?
Yeah.
I mean, just a good, we talk about like, I don't want to get too specific, but, you know,
like this is a decent bit of just joking around about girls, whether it's past girls or, you know,
just whatever to keep it light.
Classic.
We talk about travel a lot.
My cat, he's a big travel buff.
and he like he it's caddytravels.com he's like a connoisseur of credit cards it's crazy
what he he always is like I'm gonna I'm gonna go to uh he said he was gonna fly to Hong
Kong the other day does it for free in first class and he has 22 credit cards and he like
maximizes all his points on all the credit cards it's hilarious so I'm always picking his
brain about that it sounds like he's like rigging the
rigging the travel system a little bit totally is he'll sit on he'll sit on
hold for an hour and explain to the person that they own more points and shit like that.
And it's just pure gold.
And he's like, he flies around on Singapore air and he's got his own like bedroom on the plane.
And so I always pick his brain about that.
Because, you know, he's just chilling on tour.
I've had a little bit of success, but he's not like loaded.
He's not, you know what I mean.
And he flies around like a billionaire on these airlines.
He's beating the system.
It's just awesome.
Yeah, are we exposing him on this podcast?
Are we going to, he's going to get in any sort of trouble?
We have to like start bleeping out parts of the podcast.
No, no, no.
I mean, he's following the system.
Like, he just calls people and explains the way the rule book works.
Like, he knows how many points he's given.
So if they shortchange him ever, he can argue for those.
You know what I mean?
He just maximizes everything in every way.
And it's just hilarious.
So if anything, he knows the rules more than the companies actually know the rules.
Exactly.
And that's what he says to him.
He calls him and he's like,
I know more about your job than you do and give me the points.
Yeah, don't hate to play.
I hate the game.
Yeah, that's true.
I did not.
Because those credit cards make tons of promises, right?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I did not think when we asked that question you were going to say we talk about like credit,
like taking advantage of all credit card loopholes.
Yeah, and I know.
It's pretty crazy, but he's actually a pretty sharp dude.
And he's just a country guy from Kentucky.
And so I think that part's really funny, too.
But anyways, that's what we were talking about last week.
I was just like, where have you been?
Like, what are you up to?
So you guys.
You guys try to keep it light.
Yeah, oh, yeah, extremely.
And, yeah, just it depends, like, you know, I've only had four or five caddies,
like main dudes that worked for me for an extended period of time.
So it depends on the person and the mood and, you know, whatever.
How much do you guys notice individual fans?
Are you walking, you know, to your ball and you're like,
how about that fucking asshole yelling Saturdays for the boys or whatever behind us?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not a time because there's so many.
people that are looking at you.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
There's so many people that are staring at you.
If there's even like 30 people standing over somewhere and they're like, hey,
you know, whatever, say something stupid.
And you look over there, it's hard to connect with any one person because you don't
know where it came from anyways.
Right.
So that actually is pretty confusing.
So that's why people don't really look up there because like even if your mom is
standing in a crowd of a thousand people, you're not going to be able to like find her if
you're just glancing.
True.
I guess that makes sense.
It does.
That's good because you always wonder, you know, you get some people, I mean, it is funny.
And we tweet a lot of them out when they are funny, but it's also got to be annoying on some level.
I mean, I think it's funny.
I mean, they were chanting my girlfriend's name.
And, you know, they do just silly stuff like that.
No way.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think they probably had Barstool, you know, shirts on, too.
I mean, I'm sure I didn't tweet about that or something.
But yeah, there's a whole, like, cheering section that is pretty abusive.
That's hilarious.
So it was waste management this last weekend.
Now you're in Bama for a little three-day retreat.
What's next for Willie Wilcox?
Going back to Jupiter and then I'm going to practice and then I'm going to go to Panama next week.
The Panama City Web.com event because you're allowed rehab starts and I only have two more tour starts.
I don't know if y'all know about all that, but I'm on a medical exemption.
And so yeah, I'm going to go play in Panama and then, you know, whatever, trying to make some money.
You'll see our boy Jim Renner will probably be out there.
We're rooming together.
That's perfect.
No way.
Just to save money.
Just to save money on the hotels, you know.
And he's a legend anyway.
Yeah.
Oh, Jim's the best.
Yeah.
I don't know where Welchie's staying now.
I know Welchie's catty in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Welchie, I do always text to him like, you know, so what's the plan for this
weekend?
He's always like, I got something cooking.
All right, Welchie.
He's got something ready.
He's the man.
Yeah, I think he's still.
has his condo down in Florida, so I think he's been chilling there mostly.
But I'm known him.
When I first turned pro Welchie was like the boss.
He was winning all the money.
Yeah, he, I played, so I first met him this last summer.
He had a kid, his first kid, so he moved back home where he's from in Boston.
It was an assistant pro at a club that I had a junior membership at.
And so that's how I got to know him.
And he hits the ball.
Like, nothing I ever seen before.
That guy just flushes the ball for all the list.
He made it look pretty easy for a while.
Oh, yeah, that's what I heard, and he's played in.
I think he played U.S. Open at Beth Page,
and he played TBC Boston once.
Yeah, yeah, he got, yeah, and he's, like, made some cuts on the web.
I mean, he's legit, and he won a lot of events on the Hooters tour.
Yeah, that's significant.
Yeah, no, so that'll be, we got some good golfers and some,
I imagine that'll be a pretty good time in that house next week.
Yeah, totally.
All right, so we will definitely be polling for you next week.
All of our listeners will.
I'm sure you'll start to get the treatment out there.
Guys will be coming at you with shirts and all that.
So either ignore them or embrace them.
Yeah, sounds good.
And we'll close.
We always close with rapid fire.
We ask just three, four, five quick questions, quick answers.
And then we let you go.
Sounds good.
All right.
I'm going to start here.
First question.
Do you pop your collar as a joke or is that serious?
Just, I don't want to get skin cancer.
this response is uh i actually have two things cut off my body oh what the skin cancer okay then that's
okay god tread you're such an asshole now i feel bad for asking that question i'm sorry yeah no i didn't want to
make you feel that way but i'm just being honest that's that no the best way to answer that is to make me feel
like shit so that's you nailed it i'm gonna make Trent feel like shit about that for the next couple
months several months all right all right next question uh number one guy on tour if you have
to have a night out you need a night out who's the number one guy on tour that you go to
uh steve marino for sure oh okay yeah that's good to know we'll have to get rob inter producer rob
get him on the next podcast he's the man uh what is your next question what is your go-to curse word
when you hit a shitty shot um what just comes out of you i mean just just fuck me just fuck me um that's a good
one, but I heard a guy scream. You got to be fist fucking me one time.
That's a good one. Yeah, you never know, really. You get a couple holes in, especially
you never play with somebody before you get a couple holes in and then just some wild stuff
starts to come out of their mouth. Just letting them fly. Yeah, I've always golf is a tough game to not
just, you know, offend someone that's in the crowd. All right, last one. What is the worst
golf course you've ever played? Worst. Um, I don't have
I have to say the Rock in Talladega, Alabama.
It's like in Talladega municipal course in Talladega, as you can imagine, that's pretty bad.
They got the rock, because it's just in the worst shake of any course ever.
Yeah, because we've had Trent and I were talking,
and we're going to do kind of a little segment every time where we just talk about
the shittiest worst golf course he's ever played, mostly because everybody can relate to it.
You get out there as real cheap.
You have a good time.
They're still fun, yeah.
All right, Trent, you got anything else?
No, I think that'll wrap it up.
All right.
Well, we really appreciate it, man.
we'll be pulling for you and uh this was you're a great guest you're a fun guy to talk to so i think
that us and all of our all of our number one sports podcast listeners will be uh pulling for you
that's awesome i appreciate the opportunity all are awesome yeah man thanks for coming on no problem
all right folks that was our boy willie wilcox um uh again thank you to uh will for coming on
great guest great guest he was awesome everything i thought he was going to be yeah exactly he
he is kind of exactly what we were talking about before we spoke with him we were like
I think he's going to be like this and this and that's exactly he was he very normal guy yeah a little bit
of his like you said a little bit of a stoolie so you kind of know going in that what you can talk
about and he was awesome definitely one of our guys very relatable um very very good golfer
however so that's what's not relatable yeah but uh great dude I'm definitely gonna start
saying you got to be fist fucking me great quote phenomenal quote might be my new go-to basically
with anything cornhole
just like when we're not the number one podcast
you gotta be fist fucking me you gotta be fist fucking me
everybody's favorite segment coming up next
from the gallery
as we've said many times
slash the one time we had a podcast
communal episode communal
communal podcast we love submissions
we love talking hearing whatever
about what people do with their buddies
got a lot of submission shout out to people sending stuff in
tons of submissions a lot of DMs a lot of tweets
It's a lot of emails.
Quick reminder if you're going to submit a from the gallery, email 4Play at BarswellSports.com.
Be sure to include in the headline from the gallery.
From the gallery.
Again, we've got to be able to sort it.
We get a ton of emails because we're the number one podcast in the universe.
So make sure, for play at barstoolsports.com from the gallery.
Put that in there.
First one, Sean called literal birdie, which I believe Rob, named that himself.
Yep, named it.
He writes,
me and my friends have a rule
that if you kill an animal
with a golf shop,
you have to eat the animal.
It hasn't happened yet,
but it's bound to.
That last sentence is the key.
I couldn't...
None of my friends have killed an animal
while playing golf.
So this is more rare
than just about anything you could ever do.
Yeah, I really don't know
what kind of animal
you'd be most likely to kill.
I mean, I guess there would have to be
a low-flying bird.
Yeah, that's the only thing I was thinking.
Something like that,
maybe a squirrel or something if you really
send like a low missile into a tree
If you hit it into the woods maybe you just like might catch something off guard
I don't even say I mean I don't know if it's possible
What if you hit like if you if you like scald a low screamer into a pond and hit like a fish?
There we go like but then you got to go you just got to eat the fish you know what?
Oh that's a good question I hadn't gotten to the part where you have to eat it
That's the thing is like you got to fucking eat it you could you could catch a duck going the other way like
Yeah.
If he's swimming away from you, you could catch a duck.
Eating, duck's pretty good.
Yeah, no, duck's delicious.
I don't know.
Do you bring it into the fucking into like the halfway house?
You're like, hey, cook this creature up that I killed with my fucking golf?
It's never going to happen.
It's just never going to happen.
I mean, I don't know.
I have it.
My buddy one time, there's a course in outside of St. Louis that has like power lines over one of the holes.
Yeah.
And we've hit the power lines before.
And I totally ricocheted the ball.
But that's also an object that doesn't move.
Doesn't move.
It's just there.
But that's really the wildest thing that I've ever seen hit besides the usual suspects.
Yeah.
Nobody's hit an animal.
I don't think it's happening.
But interesting nonetheless, if it happens, you've got to eat it, according to Sean.
Yeah, according to Sean and his buddies.
So I kind of like that rule.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe implement that one if you want.
Next up, we got an email from Ethan called Pink Ball 3 Putt.
Settle on a dollar amount before the round starts.
first person a three putt has to play with a pink ball going forward.
If they lose the pink ball, they pay everyone the agreed upon dollar amount.
Have to play with the pink ball until another person three putts at which point the second person takes over the pink ball.
Yeah, again, it's some sort of variation of snake, which I was talking about last week, which is, you know, you always put something on the three putt.
Whoever's the last guy to three putt, there's something going on.
This one, this case, it's a pink ball.
But I do like that you have to then play with the pink ball.
You can't lose it.
Devastating if you lose it.
I've also played a format where your group just,
you start with one pink ball,
and everybody has to rotate.
Like let's say you're a four-sum.
You rotate every, every hole.
So you would once every four holes you play with the pink ball.
And your group has to come into the clubhouse with the pink ball.
If you don't, whoever makes it the fur, this, blah, blah.
So a pink ball classic.
I like this because it's big, I like that kind of makes fun of Bubba Watson.
Oh, true.
You don't want the pink ball.
I didn't think about that.
That makes me happy.
That's like a fuck the pink ball game.
Exactly.
And that's like Bubba's like, oh, I'm going to use a pink ball now.
So you're saying the pink ball game, fuck the pink ball, transit property, fuck Bubba Watts.
100%.
I don't hate it.
Third one, we got T.J.
This one's called the heckle hole.
Again, I don't know if Rob's making these fucking names up.
They're just ridiculous.
If you're down by only a few strokes of the back nine, you get one hole where you get to talk or do anything you want during every swing of the leader.
if he beats you on that hole it's double your score you get a four it turns to an eight in case we don't know how to do math so uh i i'm worried about this one because this is the type of thing that's gonna start a fight with your buddies like when you're drunk if you start doing back swing stuff i i'm necessarily not in favor of any like sort of back swing yelling because i think that's just weird and i realize that's like the point of this segment but that's this is the type of thing where fists are going to fly with a buddy if you got money on the game
and you're starting to do like drunken back swing stuff yeah you can really piss some people off here in your own group
in other groups on the course yeah marshals might not love it if you're just fucking screaming um i've played again
i've played where you get like one scream in somebody's back swing over the course of the match and they
don't know when it's coming yeah which pretty good that's pretty good because you're just always on edge
and you can really get in people's head it's almost better than like oh i'm coming for you this time and
the guy standing over the ball like motherfuckers you're going to yell this time and then last
week we had the hand wedge where the guy said you get one every hole and this one is saying
you get on every swing you got to regulate it again a lot of these come down to regulation
yep it's a couple of you people are just psychos out there regulated a little bit settle down
this is golf yours is a better variation because the anticipation of someone saying something
in your back swing would drive me up a fucking wall and that's almost worse and then especially if
you really save it towards the last couple holes because they know they're like I only got seven
swings left. It's cubbing. One of these fucking swings. And it starts the probability starts
to get higher and higher again. I don't know if you people or math people out there playing
probability game. It gets real nerve-wracking down the stretch.
Yours is better. Thank you. Yours is better. We got one more. This one, I don't know about this
one. It's Kyle. It's called the Grip Slap. Is that fucking Rob again? I don't know. I almost
don't want to know if Rob's naming these or not. Okay. All right. Grip slap. If any player
sober or shitty does not have his drive make it past the ladies tea he
receives at any moment before the end of the round a vicious dumb and dumber style
wait a vicious dumb and dumber style while holding the head of a club grip slap to the back
of the legs hurts like hell but it also but also funny a shit and causes anxiety as to when it
will happen kind of the same idea a little more violent than the heckle yeah definitely
increase of violence on this one to the heckle especially physical violence like
traceable violence, concrete violence is definitely a little risky on the golf course.
I'm not sure that's what golf is about, but I do like the anxiety angle.
Everybody has some, usually it's you whip your dick out if you don't hit past the ladies' teas.
These guys just whip each other with clubs.
I don't like, I don't like these.
I don't like this one whatsoever.
Physical violence when you're now just playing a normal round with your buddies,
not something I want to be involved in.
Yeah, I think Kyle and his buddies, I mean, again, in spirit, you're trying to make it a little more interesting, a little unique.
I don't think like whipping each other with the grip of your golf club.
It seems very like hazing.
Yeah, it's definitely like, oh, you hit a bad shot.
I'm going to haze you now.
Yeah, like, I don't want that anxiety on my mind either.
I don't want any of this anxiety on my mind.
No, hazing's illegal, so we can't really, we can't condone that.
Trent, I believe you have a bonus.
I've got a bonus one here that I really liked.
Again, we got a ton of submissions.
Shout out to people for sending them in.
I don't have the guy's name because I just remember it by memory, but sorry about that.
It's called marshmallows.
and this guy said that he gets together with a big group of guys,
a huge group of guys every year.
They go play a bunch of golf,
and one of the guys in the group brings a bag of large marshmallows,
and what he does throughout the round is he leaves them in the fairway,
in the bunker, wherever on the course,
and instead it drives people crazy because everybody drives up on the balls,
or on the marshmallows thinking their golf balls,
and they're just fucking marshmallows.
Amazing.
I laughed out loud when I saw that.
Great move.
Anytime you're just trolling people, pranking people,
fucking with people in a harmless way,
not where you're like whipping your buddies with golf clubs.
I'm all for that.
So big fan of the marshmallow move.
The fact that their marshmallows, too, I mean, if you pull up on one of these things,
you just start eating them, right?
Yes.
So if you're playing behind this guy, you get a little frustrated,
then you just switch to like a fucking pink ball or something.
No.
I will say this.
A reverse segue there.
I remember in the email, it specifically said,
this is a funny idea at first,
and then people start getting legitimately
angry every time they run up on a marshmallow yeah because especially i mean you hit a you know if you're
out there playing a classic like you know amateur public track or whatever you're probably not the
greatest conference you drive all the way over you're like oh there's my ball okay cool i don't have to look
very long nope marshmallow searches back on adds a lot of time to your round probably very
frustrating probably has a lot of strokes to your round so still pretty funny uh regardless of all of that
very funny and again you get to eat a lot of marshmallows so probably pretty dependent on how much you love marshmallows
I like marshmallows.
It is Pebble AT&T, Pebble Beach, Pro Am Week.
You gotta love Pebble Beach.
Yeah, it's Pebble Beach.
If you don't love Pebble, there's something wrong with you.
So that just adds to it right out of the gate.
It's fascinating to watch.
They get to, you know, they do all the cliff fucking images, all the HD cameras.
Now they always get the waves crashing in on like the seventh hole, that short part three.
I would be curious to see if you cut all that together over the course of the tournament,
just how long they force you to stare at crashing waves.
A lot of the, you know, golf Twitter is going to be pissed at how few golf shots they show
and how many just vistas and cliffs and shit they show.
But I love it.
I also love, too, the celebrity aspect.
Yep, of course.
Unreal, Billy Belichick, all those types of guys will be out there.
Oh, Bill Murray.
Bill Murray is a legend.
Is Boomer playing again?
Who?
Is Boomer playing again?
I'm not sure.
He usually plays and they just, like, make fun of them the whole time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you got to, and they play right through.
I mean, it's not just the pro am on Wednesday.
You know, they're in the whole tourney.
So we got to love bringing the celebs out.
Also, another thing about Pebble Beach is that for those of us that grew up playing the Tiger Woods video game series.
Yep.
This is the most classic course.
It really is.
You just play it on repeat.
I have never played.
I have never played Pebble Beach, but I have played Pebble Beach a thousand times.
I know every shot.
I know every blade of grass on that fucking course.
I know where you can get up and down from.
I know where you can't hit it.
I know, like, how the wind typically plays.
So know that course, phenomenally, from the video game.
Almost shocking when I watch them play that they're not just shooting, like, 49.
Yeah, they're not.
Why are they not like 24 under right now?
Well, how is he not?
If you mix in, like, one or two whole outs from Eagle, you can shoot like 25, 26 under.
Pebble will be just so easy.
So easy.
So I'm not really sure what's wrong with the players.
But great track.
It leads us to a classic question.
if you were playing in the attorney,
you got to pick one celebrity
and any celebrity from the world, from Earth,
who would be your celebrity partner for the week.
I'm going to make you go first
because I hadn't thought about it as much as I think I should have.
Mine's going to be maybe a controversial answer.
I think I know what you're going to say.
But go ahead.
I'm going to...
Now you're making me want to change it
because you think you know.
Yeah.
I'm going to say Paige.
Sparantic.
What?
Here's why.
If you go back,
to kind of college days
when you pick a chick as your beer pong partner
for the night, you're in.
Yep. It's a lock. Totally.
Thinking is Paige, celebrity.
Hot as fuck.
Yep. Good golfer.
I don't know how you don't pick her.
You just stole my girl right out from under me.
I don't think I was going to pick her, but that's just disrespectful.
I felt bad doing about it, so I didn't tell you who my pick was going to be
beforehand, but I just don't know how you do it.
Again, going strictly based on past history.
at events where you team up with someone, when you team up with a chick,
you dramatically increase your chances of, you know, good luck with that chick.
All right.
I'm going to steal the pick that I thought you had.
That's also a controversial pick.
Wow.
Which, because I hadn't thought of one.
Okay.
I'm going to say Donald Trump.
Power, is that just a power pick?
I just want to see, like, what I want to know what his golf game is like.
You hear so much about it.
He's obviously a huge golfer.
I want it to be Donald Trump.
So you're just, are you walking down the fairway with,
Secret Service, like surrounding your crew?
I want the whole nine.
I want to say that I had to be protected by Secret Service.
That's something I can bounce my grandkids.
That would be, I didn't even think about that.
I would have bet money that that's where you were going.
You said a controversial pick?
Yeah, I just made controversial because of your, you know, your history with her.
It's very controversial.
We're not in a good place now.
You were thinking controversial, like globally.
Very much, though.
And like geopolitically and all that.
It would be crazy for Donald Trump to do.
You just walk around with him, get a bunch of secret service and stuff.
It would be unbelievable.
and he's like a good golfer.
That's what I want to see.
Allegedly.
I was going to say, is that coming from him or who's that coming from?
It's coming from him and I've several sources, but he kind of controls the sources.
Right.
And he's 70 now.
So you don't know how flexible he is, how that swings looking.
70, you're getting up there.
Especially him.
He's not a healthy looking 70, if I may say, Mr. President.
Yeah.
I mean, that's, you know, I don't know if the Fourplay podcast wants to be going after the president like that, calling him not healthy looking.
I'm just saying.
Trump, if your people are listening, Russia, if you're listening.
Russia's definitely.
We're not being mean to Trump, but we would like to see him play the game of golf.
Love to.
Check out his game.
All right, that will wrap it up.
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I do not.
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