Fore Play - Attack Angles with Colt Knost

Episode Date: February 1, 2022

Colt Knost (00:16:02) sits down with us live from Torrey Pines. We discuss on-course reporting, broadcasting with Jim Nantz, winning the U.S. Amateur, being tight with the players, ideal degrees of attack with the driver, and much more. Also: Luke List wins, Viktor Hovland wins, and Rory rinses one.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, four play listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Fourplay, we're at Barstool Sports. We got a very special. He's not special. We have a guest, Colt Most, our good friend. Ricochet shot.

That was a ricochet shot. That was a ricochet shot. We love-shots at us. We like to fire shots at him, too. There's nothing wrong with that. It was a little friendly banter, I would say. Okay. Oh, wait.

I'm... I screwed up. We just interviewed someone who's going to be on the next show. I was thinking that that was this show. I got my time. They have different names. They got different names. I got my time.

Oh, yeah. If you're watching the YouTube, you'll see there's a little Easter egg as to who we're interviewing for Thursday. I'm going to change. Actually, I'll keep the hat on. Yeah,

keep the visor. I'll keep the visor on. Yeah, we interviewed a visor player for Thursday. We just got finished with it. And now, so this is, the timelines are going to screw people up, you wouldn't believe.

There's also a good chance that I said the guy's name already. I don't know the timeline's going to screw everybody up because I think it's just screwing us up because we just got off the interview with who's going to be on Thursday's show. But we actually interviewed Colton Nost on Friday night at Torrey Pines at the lovely Hilton. At La Jolla, La Jolla. La Jolla. La Jolla. It was Friday night.

So if the timeline on that interview seems a little bit weird, it's because it was one round. to go still in the farmer's insurance. So we were kind of talking about things that hadn't quite happened yet, but they kind of actually worked out based on what we were talking about with Luke List and his putting. So anyways, Colt knows we had like an hour and 40 minutes, obviously extremely well-connected guy. Great talent on the CBS broadcast. They have subpar of their podcasts. They got PGA, series XM radio show.

So he's all over the place, getting bigger and bigger. Won the U.S. Amateur. In 2007, Colt actually won three U.S. events, I believe, in the same year, which is amazing. And obviously, he likes to chirp and talk shit, and so do we. So it was a very fun chat between us and Colton, so stick around, enjoy that. We have a few things to get to first, talking about being out on the West Coast, San Diego, Kingdom, Taylor Made. First, we've got to talk about cross-country mortgage.

I know Frankie has recently closed on a house. You use cross-country mortgage the entire process. Is that correct? Done. I have a mortgage, cross-country mortgage. Have the keys. Thank you very much, everyone. Thank you to Chris Devin at cross-country mortgage.

It was a very, very easy process and one that made me feel a lot more comfortable. And one that, you know, I'm 28 years old and you're about to spend a lot of money and you don't know where the money is going and it's fucking scary. And you're like, I have to do this for 30 years. And they kind of just break it all down to you. They let you know that there's chances to refinance and all these things. And you learn that like you just do it. This is the thing you do in life.

You get mortgages. You get loans. You refinance stuff. For me, it was my first experience, and I couldn't have asked for better people to do it with cross-country. I mean, dude, they just think of everything. And I don't know if this is just because I became really good buddies with Chris, my mortgage guy at cross-country. But I'm pretty sure they send this to, like, everyone because it was like package and cross-country packaging. But they sent like the tape with all the little, like, labels for when you're moving and you're boxing up your stuff.

Like they thought of everything to send you. Like, hey, this is just like, this will save you an expense in some time. Like, go like, where would I even buy that like tape thing? You know the one I'm talking about? It's like it's easy to wrap all those boxes and it's a nice little laminate little sticker on it and says this is. This is. Yeah, they thought of everything. Cross country is just, I've gained friends by doing this process.

That's how insanely nice they are. So, yeah, very, very good. They've got a wide variety of loan types, which means they've got everything to cover everyone with huge variety of products that cover everything from renovation. to refis. Is that how you would say that? Refise? Yep. I was assuming that's a refinance, yeah.

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A couple things before we get to Colton. Again, we talked for an hour and 40 minutes about all kinds of things. He got pretty technical on the golf swing to golf courses he likes, to what it's like being on a broadcast with Jim Nance and Nick Faldo and all kinds of good stuff. But, frankly, I see you shot 40. 939 yesterday? Yeah, the front was... That's better than the other way around.

That's way better than the other way around. Yeah, I played the Grand Del Mar. We played with a couple of guys out here in San Diego. And we've been doing so much work on ranges, or at least I have been. I've been to so many ranges in the past two weeks. And that includes hitting off of turf and hitting off of concrete and hitting off grass.

and you just like, I just felt like I never, I was getting my swing so dialed in that I forgot that you have to aim the ball. And I think that's what happens when you do a lot of practicing, especially the way we practice. We just grip it and rip it and try and hit as far as possible. And we try and hit, like, really nice, seedy irons and all this stuff. And we're not worrying about trying to hit fairways. So the first couple of holes, I'm trying out these new swings.

We just went to the kingdom. We'll talk about that. Like, a lot of things went into this new swing. And I'm just hitting the ball all over the place. And I'm not doing my swing and I'm not taking my time. The back nine, man, it just clicked. I didn't miss a green regulation. I almost jarred out from 100, fucking 65 yards off for a hole in one.

I went to two feet. Like, just everything about it was, I was playing golf, and it was really fun. The front nine, not so fun. Well, look, that, again, you get a lot of hope. You walk away with a lot of positivity. You posted 39. You feel like you found it. It clicked.

You got a little bit of something. So good work. Luke List. We got a shout at Luke List, who wanted to play out. I believe he's 37 years old. Journeyman, first win. He was as giddy. as like a 20-year-old kid afterwards, his family run out on the green.

Amazing scene, amazing setting. Hit that dart on the 18th green. Aconic scene, Tiger Woods obviously made probably the greatest pot in the history of golf on that green. So all kinds of history. And then he throws a laser in there, a wedge, spins it back off the hill, tap in, wins. Zalotaurus, missed that put. We actually talked about it a good amount with Thursday's guest, which is Keith Mitchell. I think we can just say that.

But Keith Mitchell is on Thursday show. We talked at length, really, about Zalotaurus. his putting and his ball striking and all that so we get into more of that on Thursday show Victor Hovlin I want to shout out he won in Dubai I saw staff that he's won his last three starts what wait what yeah I mean it's European tour I think but I think he's won I think he's three for three maybe on his last or maybe three out of five but I thought I saw three for three regardless he won in over in Dubai in a playoff in a playoff Roy McElroy had a tie for the league coming into the 18th.

I think he had 267 to the flag and tried to hit like a five wood or maybe a three wood and just flared one into the water. There are a lot of hot takes about that. He ended up making bogey and missing out of the playoff by one. I don't think it's much of a problem. I mean, Rory won in the fall on the PGA tour. But, I mean, if you're Rory, you would like to see him not hit the ball in the water with the time. Yeah, that was unfortunate. But going back to Victor Hovlin for a second, he did something that I loved and it made me love Victor Hovland even more.

I like Victor Hovlin, but he's Victor Hovlin. He's still really young. He's obviously super good. But I like when guys show their personality. When he was getting handed, the big check, the big money-winning check, he went, cha-ching, and then he took the check and took a picture with it. That's pretty good. I'm starting to really come around, not that I ever dislike Victor Hovlin, but I think he is,

he's going to be a great guy to follow for a very long time, not only just because he's a great golfer. he's got an extremely likable aura about him he's got a great energy you know yeah his energy the way he looks he looks he looks happy a lot of the time i feel like people that are like high a lot of the time i feel like people that are like high he seemed like happy and just pretty much in a good mood and and kind of he kind of seems that way yet he's a bit of a stone cold killer i remember when he won what he won like a year and a half two years ago on tour and he won despite having some chipping yips And I remember him, like, they're asking about it after the round. He goes, hi, I just still can't chip, but I got the win.

He's got that fun attitude. And he's just been on an absolute rampage. One of the young guys, I mean, you think about Morikawa, John Ron, we think about these young guys that are dominating. You kind of forget, Victor Hovlin, yet, boom, he's just on a rampage right now. He's number three in the world. He's number three in the world. Incredible that he's number three in the world.

Wow. Kingdom. We've got a shout out Taylor Made. we obviously have we're Tamerate athletes sponsored athletes they had our photographs on the wall when we arrived at the

Tamer Mait Kingdom which is one of the more I would say shocking things I've ever seen did you know that was coming Frankie I had no idea it was coming I walked in and I said now what the fuck is this about and there was a really nice like secretary standing she was sitting there at her desk just typing

away something and I actually asked her to remove her AirPods I said I asked, now what the fuck is this about and pointed behind her? And she says, yeah, I don't know. She's been up here for like the last week or something. She's like, really? Yeah, she's like, do you guys want to sign it? Like, I don't know.

I was, I couldn't believe that they swapped out what probably is usually DJ, Rom, Roaring, Tiger up there for us. I don't know. Well, it was kind of stunning. Stunning. So unfortunately, yeah, it is stunning. So unfortunately, I did not make the trip. I was not feeling the best. So I didn't make the trip, which was an insane bummer because I went to the kingdom last year when we first started the Taylor Made partnership.

And that place is heaven. You just go there and they have everything you need. And it's just the greatest thing, the greatest place in the world, basically. So now when you guys go back, we've obviously been with them for like a year. We know them more. They're nice enough. I figured that when they put up those pictures that they were up for however long it took you guys to walk through. Five seconds.

Right. Like they were like, oh, shit. the foreplay guys are coming, so let's throw those fucking things up there and then take them down immediately and put DJ and more a cow back up there. But it sounds like maybe they were up for longer. But anyway, I saw that picture, Frankie, you tag me on Instagram and I re-shared it or reposted or whatever. And I got multiple texts from people in my family being like, first of all, that's the best you've ever looked. You got to smile with your teeth more, which might be one of my new New Year's resolutions. And second, my mom wants a copy of that picture. Like those pictures are

credible they're amazing i i'm trying to build out like a nice little office and studio in my house that's one of my um little products i want to do and if those if that picture of trent and i is not behind me me and trent me of me and trent um is behind me when i'm what what do you shaking head at i don't know i don't know which way it is i think it's me and trant whichever that photo of me and trent me trent me trent and me that that photo of trent and me is that that photo of Trent and me is not behind me when I'm recording my podcast on my new house, then we've completely foiled that like fuck something up because that is the greatest photo of us ever. I actually look like an athlete.

I believe the way you're supposed to determine which way is right is you remove the and someone thing and just say it the way you're supposed to and then you add, right? So it's like if you would say, uh, if you would say like, oh yeah, that photo should go like with me, then you wouldn't say like Trent and I. you would say like Trent and me. So you're supposed to say, I like that same. I don't know if that's right.

Somebody taught me that a long time ago. I think that's right. That sounds familiar. I would say that we did a lot more this year of the kingdom than we did last year. We got to see a little bit more of like where they make the clubs. And they kind of just gave us a quick tour of just like all the boxes of stuff and things being sent out and shafts and their production rooms and how much money is really spent into going into all their content. and these cameras they have. And, you know, it's a pretty big production, man.

Taylor made is no joke. They are a big. Thank you hit one, 317. I mean, Frankie hit a gunball. Yeah. You were ripping the ball. Yeah, and I got a couple of DM. Yeah, I got like an eyelash in my eye.

I got a, yeah, something's going on in my contact. Not good. Power through it. Power through it. I got a lot of DMs. Even from Joel Damon saying, do you really think that that technology, there can calculate role. And I think the argument to that is the kingdom has now completely put in all this new technology

where they have these posts for Trackman out in the middle of the driving rain. And I was talking to one of the guys from Taylor Made yesterday when we were watching football, and he said that is the reason why they added so many more of these sensors is to get a direct perfect number of role and calculations as opposed to just the regular trackman that's behind you. They're hitting all these little pings out there in the middle of the fair. the middle of the driving range and it calculates it to the T. Yes, I hit one, 2.92 carry, 317 roll.

It was an amazing drive. It's a bomb. It's a bomb. Amazing drive. It was an amazing drive. And the only tip that I got from my guy Layton, who was fitting me, was that I was swinging my driver like I was hitting my irons and I was coming down on it. I was actually coming down on the ball four degrees.

And on the drive that I hit amazing, I think I went up on it, three degrees. So that's a huge difference. We actually talked about this a good amount with Colt in the interview that's coming up. We're talking about the degree of attack and how you're supposed to change it with the driver versus your irons, how high up on the ball like Rory hits it, which was super fascinating because Cole obviously understands this stuff and knows a lot more about it than we do. So we are going to throw it to Mr. Colt knows. I don't think we have anything else. We have a great show Thursday coming as well with Keith Mitchell, who's awesome.

We talked to him for like an hour. He's out in Pebble, just chilling. and we had visors on and looked kind of ridiculous, especially me. So people are going to enjoy that Thursday. Two big shows coming up. First, new game, Anna Mules. All right, we played this game. The guys that found us have been playing this game for years.

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We've been here a lot. It feels like in the last year, but we're joined by very special guests. So when we had on, I think just once, and it was to refute an issue with us. But we have Colton Oss, who's the host of a lot of things now. Subpar, you got gravy in the sleeves. You're on CBS. You're hosting all kinds of shit now. Yeah, I'm a busy.

Man, honestly, I'm working way harder now than I did when I actually played this game for a living. Has to feel that way. It is, but it's a lot less stressful, though. Just talk and get paid. It's great. What are these weeks like for you? So we're here, you're obviously with CBS. You got the CBS sports hat on.

You did your whole hostage video stuff, which we'll talk about. Yeah, I know you'd like that a lot. Yeah, it's great. You know, this week, especially at Torrey Pines, I'm just doing the CBS coverage, so just the last two rounds. So I should appear on Wednesday. I know you guys are tailor-made guys. I went to my guys over at Callaway. I did a little club fitting like y'all did today.

Club fittings are great. Did you hit it over 300 yards? No, I can't. Never could. Never will. Welcome to the stealth. Yeah, never will. I don't think a stealth or anything is going to help me get it over 300 yards, unfortunately. Do me neither. Which is fine, though.

You know, I'll still wear your ass out alerts. Well, yeah, it was your game. But yeah. And then yesterday, during the second round of Tori, I had nothing to do. So I went out and actually watched some golf. My buddy, Taylor Montgomery, got a sponsor exemption here this week. His dad, Monty, is the GM out at Shadow. Creek in Vegas. So that's been a lot of time there.

Good spot. Went and watched him. Shout a little eight under 64. Shout out to him. He's playing well. And then I followed Gary Woodland for nine holes. Watched him grind it out to make the cut. So it was, uh, yeah, do you make the cut. I remember he was, dude, last week at, uh, the Amex, it was weird because they have with the three different courses, it's like guys are lighten up the one of the other courses. They didn't have a ton of footage. They just kept showing Wolf and Gary. And they were both just not playing well. And it was like every other group they would go to you know a lot of times they chop to like 20 different people and they're all playing well and hitting good chuff every time they were chut and they're like four over five over and i was like

these guys are just dominating the coverage and i need and gary's pissing me off because i'm going home to scotsdale saturday night afterwards and he's going there for the week for the week off and stay and so i'm trying to catch a ride with him so i needed him either really play really good or really shitty and he's right in the middle now so he's going to tee off early the last day which kind of ruins my private jet plans uh so do you do like a ton of preparation Do you do no preparation for a week like this? Do you need to do any preparation? No, because for me, like being on the ground, it's just, I kind of just react to what I'm seeing out there. You know, I know all the guys out there, which is great. I know the golf courses. I've played Torrey Pines a hundred times.

And for the most part, I know who the guys are that I'm following. So, I mean, I'll look at something and see, like, what they've been doing good for the year, what they've been struggling with. And, you know, what the big difference is this week. Like, you know, Luke List was a guy that was playing well out there. And he was outside the top 200 in putting coming into this. week and he was number one going into today. So like it's cool to see stuff like that and just see what's working well or what's not working well for guys. Are you like range ratting it and trying to find out why or something tweak that he made in his putting that's going to change him from outside 200 to the number one this week? Yeah, you know, I asked questions. I'm like, what's going on? I know for like for Luke specifically he started working with a new putting coach and they figured something out.

And I asked Luke, I said, what did he change? He goes, my whole concept of putting. So I was like, perfect. All right, great. So, Lena, do you have for a lurch? Yeah, Lurch. I've seen your putting, but it's a nightmare. You should go see Stephen Sweeney. That's who Luke List went to. Okay. Call him up.

I don't think Stephen's going to take my call. It's worth of a try. I mean, the worst thing you can do is say no. Dude, I don't know. It'd be amazing for his brand. If people could show the before and then the after and you actually putted confidence. I mean, what's your handicap? Four, five.

I mean, if you could put, you'd be a scratch. That'd be easily, dude. I don't think I'd be that low. I don't know, man. I would be better, for sure, better. You don't hit that many bad shots. I agree. I was blown away when we played down in Florida.

You're the worst putter sub five handicap on the planet. You are. Honestly, Beth? Do you agree with that? I've never thought about it. You're in the bottom five percent. Now I'm legitimately concerned.

Sub five handicapped, you're the worst putter on the planet. Now that you said it out loud. You got to think a lot of the people that are sub five handicapped are grinding, putting. They're there because of the putting. Like me. Yeah.

That's a perfect example. We released that last banning video, man. And I was like, I think it hit pretty well. I was talking a bug about it. and I but I didn't think about how bad I really was and then I watched the first hole in the first hole for the boys was bad did you guys see that first hole was like sevens and eight let me say this on the first hole you hit the ball pretty good

you hit like three pretty good shots I almost missed my drive and then shanked one out of bounds and we made the same score yeah do four wax to get it in we were at the tail I was on the green took me four we were at the kingdom today and they were fitting us and all the stuff that we love to do and they didn't even invite you into the putting studio no because I'm like They have the best technology of all time in that putting studio, and they didn't even want you in there.

No. I've been in there before. I think they had to recalibrate the thing once you left. Yeah, putting. I will say I forgot how bad I putted abandoned until the video showed me. And now when you said that. It's just back and through. Yeah.

I mean, you got to take the putter back six inches. Cole, you're a really good putter. How much when you, when you're, which is infuriating to say to you face-to-face and with many people that are going to listen. He's so good. I play with him once. He's annoying. I mean, maybe the most annoying guy.

Everybody already knew that. Yeah. Listen, it's just so easy to get in your kitchen. And it's fun. You're really in my kitchen. I have to talk shit. Okay, that's part of, I don't have much offense in the game of golf, okay? Yeah, you do.

So talking shit is one of my specialties, and I have to do that to win. No, no. So I forget what we were playing at the time, but I was like, this guy's pretty fun. Like, he's good. And then I think we all had like 270 out. And I actually ripped the three wood, but it went dead through and in the lost ball. Colt hits one I mean beautiful ball flight

to like three and a half feet and I was like we're playing way different games So you I mean you know the guy in 2007 he won the three USGs I mean he's so good And people I think maybe you sky right here Or maybe Isner said he's the best Two in the world plus two in the world

In terms of competition and betting with your buddies And I left that day and I was like he I think he is well nowadays you know I mean I do put in every score Because basically the only golf I play is to gamble And so you want your score. I need strokes when I play the tour guys. There's no doubt about it.

And it drives them crazy that they have to give them. But listen, I don't get to practice anymore like I used to. It's not a job for me anymore. So I need strokes. And I like the more strokes I can get. Yeah, I'm with you on that. So putting, right? Is there anything specific you think about overputs?

Are you thinking about your stroke ever? Are you thinking about, right? Like for me, what I tried to get into forever is the, and I just again, stole it from Tiger Woods, which is like paint to the picture. So I just take one last look at the hole, look back, think about literally nothing and just put it right away. What do you think about when you put? That's funny. So I was playing with Mickelson at the PGA one year.

We got paired together Saturday and Sunday. Phil? Phil. And yeah, that guy named Phil. Got, you know, won the PGA last year, I think. Yeah, I think you want to be a Lep. But it was pretty cool. This is one of the very cool moments in my career.

We were playing and he goes, I'm going to ask you something. I've only asked very few people in my life. He goes, I want to know what you think about when you put because you roll the shit out of it. And so I told him. me like my big thing is like I don't imagine there's a ball there like I'm big on just letting the ball get in the way like it's a putting stroke not a putting hit right and so like my big deal is and I think jordan spee's one of the other guys that does this as far as tempo of the stroke it's one to one where a lot of guys say it's you know it's it's the same speed back same speed through where a lot of guys

accelerate throughout and so for me I was big on keeping the same pace throughout and the ball just gets in the way and I'm a big guy I feel every break in my feet right so I get over so I see like say it's a right edge put right I get over it so I see like say it's a right edge put right I get over it and that might not feel quite right. That's why I've never been a line putter, like using the line to line it up because people get locked into that and it doesn't feel right. If it doesn't feel right in my feet, like I'm not going to hit it. Yeah. So I get comfortable when I just feel it and it's just kind of I look at the target and I react. It's interesting because Patrick can't lay with the with the, what are you even talking about? What are you even talking about? What are you?

It's just, I mean, that's you don't do that. The golf people understand it. I know you won't Lurch. You're a tennis guy, remember? I mean, I'm just, I'm not a putter is what I'm not. But it's like, okay. I get the back and through. I get the straight putts. I just. Do you not feel like your aim too far right or too far left in your feet? All right.

I get that. I don't get the ball gets in the way because I think the stroke is hitting the golf ball. You watch a lot of guys. Like you remember like when Jordan Speath won the Masters, he looked at the hole. Yeah. Right. There was no looking like that was just stroking the ball gets in the way. That's a big deal.

Sergio Garcia won in Mississippi putting with his last ball. That's ball getting in the way. So what I was going to say, I remember Patrick Cantley when he went on his tear at the end of last year. And I remember I think it was somebody pulled up, might have had a Ben Crenshaw quote or something. No, it was someone on Twitter, but it wasn't Crenshaw, but I remember. It was an ex-player. And how it's, he's not, he clearly doesn't accelerate. He takes a long stroke and he's maybe one, one, maybe even some people like the way it looks because most people accelerate, it looks like he's almost decelerating.

And he was the best part of planet Earth. I totally agree with you. I mean, that's, I was the same way. I was a big, long, slow stroke. David Tombs was another guy that was a great putter, did the same thing. You know, it's all personal preference. And you look at Brent Snedeker, and I mean, he's short and quick and pops, and he puts a great.

There's so many ways to do it. That's just what I found out was best for me. Now, when you do these long strokes, do you lock your body? Because people have told me, like, you got to lock up. I'm stable. I don't move. That's a benefit to your body. They ain't going anyway.

I'm wiring. I get blown away by the wind, so I got to make sure I really lock in with my feet. But do you lock your arm or any, like, is there any body or is it feel over the ball and long and through? That's what's beautiful about this game is it changed. It's different for everyone, right? So like for me, like everything I do, I set up and my shoulders are open, whether it's full swing or putting. And at the last minute, I just adjust. Like, I tuck my right arm.

What do you mean? Open? Yeah. So my shoulders are left for a right. Oh, got it. Yeah. And so like, even before I hit the driver, before I hit the putter, like I just have a little shoulder wiggle or I tuck my right. where I tuck my right elbow and it squares my shoulders.

Gotcha. Because, I mean, if your shoulders are open and putting, you're going to take it outside and come across it. Do you know the lurch, uh, strong grip story? I don't. Somebody told them one time, they gave him a tip. They go, you're hitting it. You just need to strengthen your grip.

He's like, no problem. By the end of his round, his knuckles are white because he thought that meant just grippet strong. I like that. I like that's good. That's good. I mean, I can understand that.

I got no golf background. That's fair. That's fair. That's what we walked off the course like Andy Bernard Oh my God. fingers bleeding. I went to the round and I was just,

I was gripping the thing and then online, everybody was like, dude, you are a complete idiot. Do you know anything? You're also supposed to do that out of the fairway bunker here.

You're supposed to grip it? Oh, Leonia McGuire. Deona McGuire said, just gripping as hard as you can. I'm a terrible fairway bunker point. She said, just grip it as tight as you can. She said, she says it helps you just like hit all ball.

Dude, it was crazy. Really? That's last week. I'm not. I just stood in there and held the club as hard as I could. It worked out real pure as unreal. All right.

That's crazy. That is crazy. I was like, good shot. I was like, dude, I just gripped as hard as I could. He's like, what? Why? When you're just, I don't know. You feel so today, like we, I got hooked up to that putting machine and there was a lot of talk about face address, right?

Like where, how am I lining up? And it's amazing when you kind of like lock yourself into those numbers. Are you, are you plugged into those numbers when you're playing? No. Okay. I'm not. So for me, like, I believe like, if you look at guys like Brian Gay is one of the best putters to ever play on the PJ tour, right? If you broke down his stroke and you put him on that, like he aims way right,

he takes it inside and comes over the top of it. So it's not about where you aim, in my opinion, it's about where you start it. So if it's a dead straight putt from 10 feet, if you aim four degrees right, great, as long as it starts straight. Right. Like that's all that matters is the start line. Right. That was sort of what you were doing today.

Well, it's crazy. They were hooking me up for two different types of putters, and the main difference was like the weight. So one of them was very weighted at the face. It was like a face weighted putter. and the other one was on the toe. So they were basically seeing the difference between those two putters, and it was drastic.

So there's two putters. The first putter I made four putt's total. The first putter I started with my face 3.51 degrees open. Second putter I use, 0.18 closed. That's just me stepping up with that putter. I made all four because I'm pretty sure the machine just sucks the balls in. There's just a funnel. No, but I'll get like a good example about that.

I have a buddy that he used to be on the, PJ tour. Now he's on the corn fairy tour, Martin Flores. And he great putter. Right? And he went down to this company. They put him on the machine and it showed from 10 feet, dead straight putt. He aimed four degrees right. But he made them. So they got him into putter where he aimed correctly. And he putted like shit. I'm like, dude, it doesn't matter where you aim.

Right. Matters where you start it. And it also got me thinking too. Like, you know, I never would have known that because to me both addresses looked completely the same. He's just like, just step up to the ball and put. And one of them was four degrees different than the other. And even my, um, when I, um, when I, I actually hit it on the face, it was like, I'm talking two degrees difference of being like almost identical, like perfectly

through the ball. Like it was a 0.08 degree open on the face impact, which is nuts. You should use that putter. Right, but like for me, like, but then our swings are different tomorrow. No, but here's my thing that I was thinking of,

like Tiger Woods used the same putter for his whole entire career, right? And you have these guys that will play with the same putter from when they were 17 years old. So like, is it really, like, what was the difference between that? Like, why did I, addressed the ball differently and why did I come through the ball differently just because of the way

the weight was dispersed like couldn't I just adjust on that based off how I felt well I think Tiger has said before that he has on putting labs and such putted better statistically the way it comes off the you know closed open all that with like the newer stuff but that he goes back to the Scotty because he just trusts his feel and his time in the moment that's what came to and you got yeah yeah you got tiger then you have on the other side Dustin Johnson who travels with seven putters every single week and there's no tone. But he might change putters from Friday to Saturday. It's,

is he like going off analytics with that or feel? No, feel. Wow. Yeah, he's just, but they're all spiders. So it's like,

yeah, they're all different between my two spiders. No, I know. One had just like different like flex points. I don't know what the fuck the guy was talking about. No, me either. He told me a couple things I go,

stop. I don't know. We talk. My guy, he started going on a ran. I go, I don't know, Wayne's great.

Oh, too. He's a 10. I know. Perry too. It was. we'll have to talk back to back years with this guy and like but he gets on a ran I go

no no no we're not gonna go to two two language like Colspey's another language in us oh it's another language I can break it down a rabbit hole about whatever he was talking about I don't know if I want it broken down to me I kind of like it being this no high level concept where it's just like you don't know what you're doing you can try yeah but I would say like you're more

of a feel guy and the way your brain operates you should be a feel guy because you'll get like where was I think like lurched more of an analytical person and like it ruined me today when he's like oh when you stepped up there you were you were aimed four degrees left of the hole and I said I don't know what I I don't know but that sounds like a lot of I don't know what I did to change it the second putter I don't know what I did I mean yeah a different model putter you're gonna I mean it'll change the way you aim which is crazy to the line on top or dots or whatever it is there's all kinds of different I mean

these guys that create these things create these things are pretty smart so what I was trying to do with my guy Duane today is because as soon as he gives me a new shaft or new anything I want to look at that or like a bounce on a wedge. I want to see that, but I was trying not to and just try to keep the same swing and let him figure out all the details of it because then I would judge it. Like if he was putting me in a stiffer iron shaft or a more flexible one. And I didn't want to change like my mindset going into swinging that golf club. Dude, it's funny when you hit like he, he's like, let me tweak that on that three wood a little bit of my right. I'm going to hit that off the turf, you know? He gives it back to me. I just put two horrible swings on it. He goes,

that tweak, it's like coming off a little lower and right. I was like, dude, I just, just like shanked. Yeah. I don't know how to explain to you. I'm not a robot. I mean, I used to get so nervous. They were bad swing.

Yeah. I would get so nervous like testing new stuff. Like I would always make a trip out here to California because whatever manufacturer with most of them are out here, right? But it's always like, okay, you're going that day to get fit. Like, what if your swing sucks that day? I know. Totally.

Like it's terrible because like they're going to adjust you or like they're going to fit you to what you're swinging with that day. And it's always stressful. Like I want to hit it good. I want to make sure I hit it good the day I go get in. stuff. I'm almost the opposite. I'm like, I hope I hit it bad. Like I usually because this is what's going to happen on the course. Right. I hope I want them to give me something that's going to help me not hit it so bad. He needs seven different shafts. Yeah, that's right. I need

a different shaft for my six, seven, eight, nine iron and I'll just play with that iron the whole day. Well, that's why I said to you, you started off the day to day at the kingdom saying that you were going to try and hit a certain type of shot all day. Like you're trying to come more inside or something. Yeah, that's true. Why are you changing your swing for a fitting? Well, so then the dumbest thing of all time. He didn't yell at me, but he was on your side. Yeah, I was, that's like the only side. I sometimes start it left and then it draws left and it's a bad miss over there. And so I'm trying to hit these hold off cuts and that's what I was telling you.

And you're like, what are you even doing over there? Try and hit the ball the way you go. And then Duane got me in a different shaft. I think it was stiffer and I could just swing. And I was going to talk about Duane's insane. Oh, dude, I told him to his face. I'd kiss him today. And I said I'd use a little tongue if you wanted.

What were you doing to the ground today with your feet? It's the first time I've ever noticed that. Is it just because of like the California grass or? I don't know what that's every way to. I've never seen anything like it. Ground force lurch Tomas ground force

it's ground force power through the hips the divot from his toes was stronger than my oh yeah everything you did over there and then we started

to do a little wedge off to a back pin and I dropped a ball and Dwayne looked at me and goes only divots in your box there are lurch and I had to pick up my ball

and go back there was a little gap yeah because Frankie and I were like one you know whatever T-box apart so I went over to him so we were close and Dwayne goes

no no no back to you. I go, all right, it's fine. By the way, I think we have to mention Trent is not here. Yeah, no. Couldn't make the trip out, had just like a little personal thing that was going on and just couldn't make it to California. So Colt is our West Coast Trent. I'm fine with that.

I got big shoes to fill. Yeah. He's alleged. Broke 100. Throw bras. Should have got your cackies. No kidding. Should he got you cackets?

Yeah, I don't have any cackies. Yeah. A luggage. A luggage case to carry around? Yeah. A little suitcase. He's a lot. He's a popular man.

So we were talking today before we. actually start recording the show about drivers at how certain players hit up on the driver and frankly that was like a big thing for him today which changed it was hitting up on the driver and I believe what most amateurs probably hit like two to like five degrees down on their driver

and how big of a difference that made and then we're reminiscing about when we're at Media Day with Taylor made in November and like Rory hits five degrees up on the driver and then you were talking about guys going through slumps and hitting it as much as like seven degrees up on the driver when you're trying to get

distance and figure out of the longest you're not the longest hitter of all time even though you make every putt like would you ever just try to like almost like shooter or uh yeah like like shooter McGavin when he's trying the happy Gilmore swing would you just try like crazy just hit up as much you can on the ball it's funny so one of the guys that's very good at you know helping you increase your speed is a guy named matt killin yeah um PJ instructor works with you know worked with Kenny Perry for a long time lurches man bud collie for a long time but i went worked with him for a little bit. Let's put a call he do.

He just hangs out. Okay. But I went with him trying to pick up some distance. And he got me, that was where I first, because I used to be a very neutral guy. And I was a really good iron player because of it. But I went trying to get more distance and was swinging four or five degrees up on it. It was great. I mean, I picked up, you know, six, seven miles an hour club head speed, hit it 15 yards further.

But it really affected my iron game. Yeah. Because you definitely don't want to swing five degrees up on an iron. That just doesn't work. But technology has changed everything. I mean, back in even 2000, you know, when Tiger won everything, he was probably one to two degrees down on it. That's just how the equipment was. You know, they hit controlled balls with a lot of spin, and now it's, we're trying to hit high knuckle balls out there.

That's what all these guys do and just fucking smash it. I mean, that's what they want to do. And that's just changed so much with technology and the modern day game is like all these guys are swinging crazy up on it. I could not believe when Rory stood in front of us with a driver and he hit it how high the golf ball went. It was in the air forever. And you're thinking like with spin and technology, if you hit it that high, there's no way it could. I mean, there has to be a level where it's, you start to diminish and it loses. How has he not reached that level with how high he was hitting it?

But it stayed in the air for every carry one like 3.43 in front of them. And I think for guys like that, like him and Bryson, it's more about the carry than the roll. Because once it gets on the ground, it's out of your control. Yeah. If they can carry it 340 and it rolls out to 350, great. Like that they probably feel more control over that than flying at 310 rolling out to 3. even from like 07 when you you know had your

phenomenon you're winning the USA amateur like have you how much has the game changed even the last 15 years since then oh it's crazy you know I was sitting with the with the guys at Calloway one day and we were going over it and I believe I'll probably mess this up but in the year 2001 guy averaged over 300 yards off the tee and that was John Daly uh 2010

2010 last year there was 110 well I mean it's just that's it's so much distance just part of the game you have to I mean guys are just bigger, stronger, better athletes, and the equipment is also better, too. Everyone says the equipment, but, I mean, you look at these guys. Look at Dustin Johnson. Look at what Bryson's done. Gary Woodland. I mean, these guys are athletes. They're not me. So it's changed a lot. And it's, you know, it's now where guys, I don't think you'll see any guys coming out as rookies as 22-0 rookies that play the game the way I did, where it's precision, you know, manage your way around the golf course. It's just ship it and go find it and see what happens.

Where do you fall in the distance debate with golf courses? you know no matter how long you make a golf course if it's soft it doesn't matter these guys are going to kill it they're so good like it used to be like 200 yards used to be a hard shot for guys now it's a seven iron and these guys can land it exactly where they're looking every single time the only way you can stop these guys is with long rough and firm greens right so that's like i mean you look i remember um when brooks won the u.s open at aran hills i know a place you all been to a lot everybody's like oh this place is so hard i think he broke the record for low school or at a U.S. Open at, I think it was 16 under.

I think he was 16. It was 7,800 yards. The next week was Hartford. It's 6,800 yards and 12 under one. Yeah. It's just, right. The length doesn't really matter to these guys anymore. I mean, Bryson's stock 8 aren't 215 yards. And isn't that okay, though? I'm fine with it.

Isn't that okay with the best of the best just hit it really far and hit it really close to the hole and they just go really low because they are the best of the best? Yeah. Why do we always have to try and change the sport because people are doing too well in it? That always blocks, like, boggues my mind. Steph Curry's breaking every three-point record there is. They're not raising the goal or moving the three-point line any further back. And we're also talking about like, we have to swing out of our shoes just to get 275 carry today at the kingdom.

Like, that doesn't affect us. It doesn't affect 99.999,999% of golfers on the planet. So it's amazing that it gets so worked up about it. And I actually love the fact that they're turning it into like this monster jam type of sport where we're just seeing bunkers being flown. And I know it's not the way the game was supposed to be played. And some of these courses are being disrespected. the architecture or whatever, but hey, that's just evolution, baby. Like, that's just, guys are just getting better.

It is. You know, I use, I use last fall when they went to the Summit Club in Las Vegas as an example. Everyone was like, it's ridiculous. The scores they're shooting. I'm like, the Summit Club is a discovery property made for rich people that like to have fun. It's not made for PGA tour events. Like, they just happen to host a PJ Tour event. And these guys are going to torch it.

That's what it is. But the other 99.5% of the time, it's a bunch of hacks out there that are just out there to have fun. Yeah. Yeah, I think of anything, you know, I think, Ram like kind of summed it up when he was a bitch caught bitching about to set up you know last week which it's like and and this came you know two weeks after JT made his comments of you know if you give us any golf course in the world that is soft and there's no wind we are going to light it up no matter how long we're going to shoot nothing we're going to shoot nothing right that's what he said

he's just a phenomenal thing is we're going to like literally every time we teed up we're to shoot a million he's going to shoot nothing but they're right in that and I think this has always been Brandl's point of and a lot of like what Frank you're saying which is that if you make if you do try to change the game it's a bummer because you're going to affect the game and the way it currently is and if you have two different sets of rules that's going to affect everything whereas now we can all use the same stuff the same conforming stuff we can go out and play the same golf courses and have very few spots that are truly affected by just lengthening them in terms of a few major chip courses, a few spots on tour where, yeah, you're going to have to continue to length

them a little bit. But that's fine because if you can get the conditions to the point where there's rough, there's firm greens, firm conditions, it's going to be tough. The last U.S. Open at Marion was what, 2013 and it was under 7,000 yards. And Justin Rose won. I think he was one over par. Yep. And it's like that. Olympic Club, Webb Simpson shot one over and one. It's same thing. It's right at 7,000 yards. That wasn't that long ago. It was less than 10 fucking years ago. It's less than a decade ago. You can't control Mother Nature. I mean, if it If it's soft, like the year Gary Woodland won at Pebble. Pebble is a great place that holds up no matter what because it's got little small greens.

You know, you can get, there's a lot of trouble out there. But that week, you know, it was really overcast. They had very little win. And I think he shot 13 under to win. But then you see when Graham McDow won, I mean, he shot it, he shot one or two under when he won. I mean, it's just, Mother Nature control scores. There's no doubt about it. I mean, if you get it dry and windy and you confirm the place out, it's going to, it's going to test the guys.

When you were playing where you were. for easy conditions or did you want it as hard as possible? No, harder was better for me. Like just having a premium on driving it straight was big for me. That's why like I love sawgrass. I actually played well here at Torrey Pines a few times. I mean,

like 15th, which is pretty good for 70s and yards. But this is a place where it's really long and they normally have the rough four or five inches. So whether you hit it 320 or 270 and you were in the rough, you were screwed. Yeah. And that made it tough.

And so I liked that. I, and I don't mind having 205. And like I had hybrid and I'm, I love hitting hybrid. I'd rather hit hybrid than five iron. Yeah. So I liked it to be tough.

I never really played well at the places where you had to shoot crazy low. Yeah, it's interesting because there probably are some guys that like to take advantage of it, right? But you hear the most competitive guys saying they want the toughest test because the best players will come out on top. Yeah, I think that was John Rom's point. Like, when it's tough, it's really hard to beat that guy. Yeah.

I mean, he's good at every aspect of the game. He has zero weaknesses. Weeks like, you know, in Palm Springs at the American Express, it's a pro am, first off. It's not supposed to be set apart. You got amateurs in the field. You know, guys can get away with a lot more and not always the best player wins that week.

I mean, you can hit 40 yards offline and you don't get punished for it. Tori Pines, you're going to get punished. Yeah. It's interesting because it's mostly I feel like, you know, the woke golf Twitter, woke golf crew that is so much against the current distance. There's so much against a lot of the courses

like Tori Pines and things we're looking at. And, you know, we all understand the history and the nuance of the game. We like the traditions. We love the masters in Augusta. We think, you know, all that stuff's really cool. So we all, I think, can understand a little bit of both sides of it. But at the end of the day, when you look at the stuff we just talked about,

which is numbers of like things don't always have to be long. And there's other ways you can set them up. And the fact that, you know, when they did it at the, what's the Dallas Trinity Forest? When they had the, you know, attorneys there that a lot of the World Golfers all jacked up with core Crenshaw. And it's going to. And they went out. and just dropped wedges in next to the hole and lit it up and every fairway 60 yards wide i mean and everyone are exactly it's about the angles and that's gonna really and it just didn't it was like

they can just pound it a 350 yards drop wedges in tight and shoot 30 under par and that to most people most like that's not a problem but if you're bitching and saying that you really need to have you know these certain old school elements to golf to really make it just like i think that kind of proved like not really well you look at this place for example tory pines i mean look at the last two u.s opens they've had I mean, Tiger Woods in Rockomedia 2008, incredible finish. Last year, John Rom, incredible finish. This place produces unreal finishes because it's so hard, but it's so fair, and it's hard for guys to separate themselves.

Which is weird for me that people would like hate this place. I don't understand how they do. Yeah. It's one of my favorite venues for US Open. But is it more about the layout that people don't like it? Right, but that's what we're saying. The layout's delivering like. The potential, but then I'm a huge water guy.

I love cliffs. I love the ocean. I love views. I'll take views over architecture any day. It's just who I am. I love that stuff. And so I would knock some points down on that. But also I would say that not every golf course has to be the same exact on the cliffs.

Every single hole has to be Pebble Beach, right? So this has a little bit of everything. It's an inland golf course. It doesn't utilize the cliffs that it has. But you still get the views. You still get the amazing feel that you're at, you know, a Pebble Beach type golf course. So I don't hate that fact. I love Torrey Pines.

It's really growing on me. Ebug and I have been here, I mean, more than we can ever imagine when we did the behind the greens out here. And I've fallen, I've fallen in love with it. I love Bethpage,

and this is the Bethpage of the West Coast. I love it. You don't like Bethpage? That's my nightmare. No, I just kicked the shit out of me. But then this, but then you played well here. So, like, what's the difference there?

Yeah, but like, there's so many forced carries, right? Like, number 12. Number 12 is the most ridiculous. For me, it's like $275 to cover the bunker. I can't cover it. If you hit it out to the right, you have 275 to the front of the green.

I'm like, it's just, it's impossible. That isn't unplayable. Yeah, it's just for me, it's, I played with Gary Wood on there one year and he takes it over the corner and has nine iron in. Yeah. And I'm like playing it as a three shot hole.

It's just, that plays is just really hard for me. 15 is just a hard rule. 15 is the green's impossible to hit when it gets firm. Cool place though. Fun to play. The crowd's up there, rowdy.

To get back to the weather, like I, as just amateur hacks, when we play a match, I enjoy the tougher courses and tougher conditions, because I think it levels out the playing field for all of us. If it's a perfect day out in Arizona with like, of course, that Riggs knows or maybe like a wide open place that Lurch can just bomb the ball over the place,

I know I have no chance. But like band and Dunes, we're all walking up to the first T being like, this is going to be a grind. I'm mentally saying when I'm on the first team, you're getting mentally tough? I'm just saying, I think we all have a chance here today.

You know what I mean? Yeah, like Riggs is going to hit the ball mile right because the wind's in his face and he hates that. Lurch is not going to be able to get the balls on the green. Like if I can just somehow stay. If it's windy, I know I got a good chance against rigs. Maybe they have me in a six degree driver now. Great.

You're playing a six degree driver. Basically. The wind just decimates me. Yeah. Will you get these like high pop? I mean, yeah. No, it's, it's not said. A.

A. Is it today at the kingdom and I was piping. You're doing what? Really good. He's got a potter basically. Ultimately, we highlight that. We know about that?

The guy ultimately fit me for. Look at this posture he's going to give us too for the delivery of his age to to. Yeah. I mean, this is. crazy. The blues might win the Stanley tell you a story about my driver.

My boys play in there now. James Neal. Great. Oh. The real deal. Oh. Real deal James Neal. So, um, today I'm hitting the ball too, but I'm hitting it straight with

this little cut. And he's like, do, your swing like looks good. And like you're hitting it good. He's like, it's just so spinning. It's clear I have like a little fucking, uh, steep like bullshit thing. But he's like, I don't want to dramatically change your swing right now. Like, guys, you improve it over time where you can tweak stuff. But right now it's, we got to keep going down on the loft.

So I'm like, okay. So it gives me the eight degree driverhead. He goes, I don't even know that we make these. Gives me the eight degrees stealth driverhead. And then I hit a couple. And he's still a little spinning. And then he, he lops it down. He de-lops it down.

Oh, yeah, those little degrees. He lost it down. He's like, I don't know exactly what it's at, but like you might have like a six and a half degree driver. I started like piping these like much lower. Isn't that what? Pretty nice. Bryce is like five, five and a half six. Oh, what?

It's in a hundred yards farther. I do. But I was starting to hit him like 285. I was hitting him out there. like bug at me. I was hitting it like 285 in these sick cuts and he's like, dude, I think you're just going to have to walk out here with an eight degree driver. D lofted down to like six.

That's what I was trying to work. That's scary because if you're not on, you're just going to be hitting low just missiles, no? I don't hit low, dude. It's like impossible. So your miss is never low. I just, I mean, I can,

I get anywhere on the face any time. But like my actual golf swing, there's no way. I'm just like, oh, today rigs is hitting it a little too low. Yeah. I just like, dude, I use the six and a half.

I would, the ball never get up. I was doing a 10.5 today. And I know he saw your stats. I want to understand. So I launched it, I guess, eight degrees. That's really low. Really low.

Yeah, that's really low. And then I had 117 and 173. So basically if you want a perfect contact, right? So it's a time and a half your club head speed. So 100 miles an hour. Yeah, it would be 150 ball speed. So what was your club head speed? 117.

117. 17. You're at 58 and a half. So 58 and a half in 117 is 175. Okay. So you're close. Close. That's pretty good.

Yeah. And 8 degree is too low? I think it's too low. You look at these guys out here, it's anywhere 12 to 15 degrees along. Oh, wow. That was a 12 and a half today. See, that's pretty good. That's like right in the sweet.

I would have that. Well, I carried with this. I also wanted on record, I hit 1 317 and won the long drive contest today against Benjamin. Yeah. You're just going to ignore that. What was your spin? I won the long drive contest today at the kingdom. I mean, in my opinion.

you could bring it down. Anyone listening to me over here? I won the long drive contest. I mean, you're on Twitter. I don't care how wire you am. I'll wire you are I am. Like, I'm fucking,

I'll shut that thing with a couple wires, boy. I'm just fucking cranking golf balls out there. You have to give me one pat on the back for that because you know I'm a fucking shit golfer. How do you feel about Max's tweet to you though? Oh man, dude, that guy, Mr. Pip himself, just every chance he has, every time he has a chance, to just get involved with something that may be,

that we might be gloating about our golf game. He just brings us right back down to earth. He's done that twice to me. One time I put up a video of myself hitting at Sage Valley, my favorite place on earth. It's like the background on my phone. And I put up a drive and he's like, if this is the best you got,

you need to like stop and quit the game ever. I don't know how you have a podcast. It was like the meanest thing ever. And then the second time is today, he goes, if you really would have won the long drive contest if we put you behind a bunker with a wedge to see if you can get it onto the green.

So it's just the guy never lets me live. I will say he, Max, a nice guy that we all love and cherish. He comes on bars full stuff all the time, part of my take guys with us. He's on with you guys. We're all closer. He will fire kill shots on the internet out of nowhere, unprovoked. He's got good bullshit, man. Like, he's witty.

Kill shot. Unfortunately, he like wins too. So like it kind of backs. You can't fire back in a pro golf. Yeah. I almost, if I was. But here's the thing is that then I was going to enter the fray. And I was going to be like, this should be.

How come you're on the couch, not on the golf course right? Whoa. But then I know, then he's going to send you a- Oh, he'll murder me or not. Oh, this ain't going out for millions of dollars. Promos? But that's what I mean. Like, then he'll just, like, he'll just go lower, really.

And bury me. So it's like I just stayed out of the friend. I think I just said, oh, man. I'm racking up likes. I'm racking up likes at Frankie's expense. Like, you wouldn't believe. With an oh man tweet. Oh, man.

Yeah, I was in the pisser after Colt. and they're just looking at my toilet. I just wrote, oh, man. Oh, man. Cole, you like to mix it up, like, with the trash talk. Did you do that when you were playing? Like, did you ever get on Tuesdays? Yeah.

Yeah. And, I mean, during the tournament, like, everybody's out there doing their job, so there's none of that. I mean.