Fore Play - Augusta Brawls, featuring Taylor Moore

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

Valspar champion Taylor Moore joins (01:45:43) fresh off his first Tour win in Tampa. We discuss going 64-for-64 from inside 7 feet, preparing for Augusta for the first time, and surviving a life-thre...atening collapsed lung. Before Taylor, we ponder if tour tensions will lead to physical altercations at the Masters Champions Dinner, if LIV golfers will ever have a pathway back to the PGA Tour, and what to expect at the final Dell Match Play this week.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot. His name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Knives because he always knites it across the green. Broads 100.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Now you've got to break 90s. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. we were gonna. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking 2999. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000
Starting point is 00:00:36 these yesterday. He goes, take 100 and go fuck yourself. What? What do you have a picture? It's ain't a hobby. Poor players are by Barstool Sports. Brought to you by our very good friends at the great American company of Chevrolet, taking everybody from the classics into the new age
Starting point is 00:00:53 with Chevy EVs for everyone everywhere. I'm joined by my good friends, Trent, Frankie, and Laptby and American investor who was recently passed away and was a Putin critic, a vocal critic of Putin, Dan Rappaport who died on August 14th, 2022 after allegedly falling from his nice story apartment in Washington, D.C. per the New York Post. Yeah, I knew about that guy. Obviously, I saw his name in the news, you know, when he, when he did tragically pass away. So that's a real, that's a real guy. That's a real person. He spells it differently. He spells it like like Ian Rappaport, RAPO, where I'm RAPA. So I knew
Starting point is 00:01:30 that guy existed. But yeah, I just, I want to know who saw that picture of me, of a guy wearing a hat with a, with a bear smoking a joint on it and a, and a lanyard that clearly says PGA tour all around it and thought, you know what? That must be the Latvian investor, uh, who died after falling out of an apartment window. So, dude, I was confused because so the New York Post actually put your picture in. Is that correct? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because by the time I got to the link, They had changed it. So I thought some guy was just messing with you. I didn't realize that the New York Post actually put your picture in there.
Starting point is 00:02:04 This New York Post article came out and it was a pretty serious article about, you know, mysterious deaths for people that are critical of Putin and the Russian regime. And this list right here, accidental deaths have also hit elite Russians since Putin chose to invade Ukraine. It goes on to say it's a bad time to disagree with Putin, which is a quote. There might have been a time when that would have slid, but tolerance for opposition to the war and the regime in general has narrowed considerably. And then there's eight pictures listed
Starting point is 00:02:34 and one of them is just our very, and the names on there are like, they're like, do you have the picture up? They're like Vlodomir Zolentiti. It's like Tereschenko and it's just your boy. It's just your picture of your boy. So I got a very good laugh out of that. Got it right here.
Starting point is 00:02:51 There's a guy. This is a screenshot. I mean, you've now seen what it would be like to be included in like, mass death like notice on the news you know what i mean like seven pictures of people where it's like we lost these people too soon and your face is just up there with your name like that you got to witness what it would look like if you were in the new york post for a horrible mysterious death definitely feel like i have a new lease on life definitely feel like yeah yeah it's uh it's or
Starting point is 00:03:16 Putin just hasn't gotten to you yet they put up this is like a final destination shit where like you're supposed to be dead not a radar you want to be on not a radar you want to be right what if he saw that article and was like i don't remember I remember accidentally killing that guy. So we're going to have to finish that one off. Nikolai Mushegian, Anatoli, Geroshenko, Dimitri, Zelenoff, and then your boy, Dan Rappaport. By the way, I mean, Putin is able to execute incredibly skilled people in the spy and espionage world that are very, like,
Starting point is 00:03:47 they're as good at being able to defend themselves from this stuff as possible, and they get eliminated. So if Putin wanted to be like, oh, this. rabbit board guy that we maybe we missed him it doesn't really matter let's just get rid of them that would be the easiest thing of all time so it would take them one second i really tweet where i am at all times no problem so so we got to be a little bit careful trying to stay off that radar i'm glad dan that that didn't turn out to be true very i mean i made a i made a somewhat of a regretful prediction a few months ago i don't want to bring it back up but he did sure seems like his vital
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Starting point is 00:05:25 My lease is coming up. I know Frankie talked a lot last year or beginning part of this year about how his lease is ending. I've been on that website. I've been trying to perfect. It's a big decision. It's a big decision what car you're going to go with, what you're going to drive every single day.
Starting point is 00:05:38 When you're walking around those parking lots or parking garages looking for which one's yours and you see it, you want to feel good about it, you want to feel confident about it. You want to be like, yeah, baby, that's my ride. And Chevy has done that with the EVs and the EUVs. We saw those Silverado EVs at Phoenix Open Week. They look big.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I mean, they legitimately look fake. I don't know how the hell they're going to put those on the production line and like those are just going to be out in streets that's insane it was an actual moving electric silverado that i couldn't believe was a real car so i'm deciding between blazer Chevy evi a silverado you i could wait for and possibly um put my name in the ring to try and reserve one but then i was looking at it's not the evie not the uv but dude this like 2023 Chevrolet Tahoe look how fucking bad ass that thing is man black blacked out,
Starting point is 00:06:31 blacked out rims, unbelievable leather interior with the light gray mix on the black car. I'm looking at this thing and it's hard not to purchase a Chevy right now. I mean, I really think I found my like make and trim
Starting point is 00:06:44 and my model. I've been doing on that. I've been doing those infotainment systems. I've been adding all the things. It's got the three rows of seating, the whole deal. It's real nice. It's real nice.
Starting point is 00:06:56 But yeah, it's hard. It's hard decisions because then the Blazer, EV is like going to be probably the best car in the market when that comes out. Like that's the stuff that I'm reading with the Blazor EV is out of control. So it's like it's hard not like what decision to make. But I don't know. It's exciting.
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Starting point is 00:07:36 So we're going to speak to him on the second half of the show. We haven't done that yet. We haven't recorded that yet. But hopefully that does come to fruition. So stay tuned for that. Obviously, the most recent winner. Go through everything in the back nine at Innesbrook, the snake pit the whole deal. Interesting finish with Speeth up there.
Starting point is 00:07:52 And he couldn't quite get it done. We had Shank with the tree incident on down the stretches. He's trying to close out. We had now that we have Dan, we're going to focus on this too. that a little bit of a kerfuffle with Kirk Minahan over the situation on 18 that I saw? I really should not have responded to that tweet. That was a big mistake. I'm pretty good about never responding to people when they talk shit.
Starting point is 00:08:16 But something about Kirk, I just kind of had to respond. Look, I agree with the decision playing it lefty, but let's not pretend like it was a no-brainer. That's why the caddy was asking him, hey, what do you think about a drop here? If you drop it, we have 170. If you look at the post, there's caddies who caddy on the PJ tour were like, yeah, I'd be pushing the drop here. Like it wasn't a 100 to zero question. So let's set some cod. Let's set the table here, as they say in the business, is the,
Starting point is 00:08:39 Adam Schenk coming down the 72nd hole. He hits his bad T-shot, towie one. He said ends up right next to a tree, has no stance for a right-handed golfer. But as a left, he's got kind of a crazy option to flip the club over and try to chop at it and get it somewhere, you know, advanced. You tweeted that we always talk about guys playing to win, first playing for money and crunch time. Adam Schenk could have easily taken. an unplayable there. That's the safe option, likely makes a five, which would be a bogey, tied for third at worst. But he said, F that, which you didn't curse. You wrote F that,
Starting point is 00:09:11 and went for the high risk lefty swing because it gave him the best chance to win. Kirk Menehan quote tweeted it and simply wrote, he was tied for the lead period. No one would have taken an unplayable in that spot period. Absolutely no one, period. And then you responded to that and defended yourself. And in the, and like you're saying, in the moment, His caddy was at least lobbying for there being an option that is a very realistic option for them to take it unplayable and try to get it up and down from there, right? Yeah, you're not making, you're not making three, right? So you're not going to win the tournament there because you're not hitting that lefty shot onto the green. So you're basically, and the caddy said because it was trampled down rough and they could see the flag, it would have been like 170 yards.
Starting point is 00:09:53 So it's a hundred guaranteed 175 yard shot from a clean lie with a look at the green needing to get up and down. or he goes lefty. Best case scenario is he gets it in the fairway, which is you have no control. Worst case scenario is he whiffs completely or he hits himself or some disaster happens. Or what happens is what happened happened, which is he hit it lefty. He hit it good and went through the fairway into the rough. He could not control his spin at all. He could not control where the ball was going to land.
Starting point is 00:10:20 The pin was in a back shelf. He hit it into the hill and left himself 50 feet. So I mean, I think, you know, that rough was thick that week. I think 110 yards uphill from the rough needing to get up and down versus 100, 165 or 170 yards from a clean lie. Like, it's a decision. I agree with the decision that he made. But let's not pretend that this was just like an absolute no brain or no one in the history
Starting point is 00:10:40 of the world would have taken the drop there. But didn't he not really have a look from where he would have had to drop it? No, he would have. The caddy said he did. The caddy said, we drop it here. We move those people. We can see the flag. But he disagreed with that.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Like the caddy kept saying that, but he looked at it. And he's like, I don't think that leaves us with any better chance. And no matter where I hit this ball lefty, I'm going to have a similar look, regardless of what happens. we have to take the risk and try and win this tournament. I actually don't think many people would take that drop. But it's not like it was a clear as day. Like you're automatically going to have the best shot available regardless of what happens with that lefty swing.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah. If he has to hit like a 20-yard hook, then I agree. I mean, I'm not being there. It's hard to know what it actually would have looked like. But like it's not just insane to think I'm going to give myself. If it was, that is the variable. If it wasn't a clean line, he didn't have a good look, then it's a no-brainer. But if he did have a clean lie and a good look like the catty said, then it's a decision.
Starting point is 00:11:30 He goes, he goes like, he goes like, well, how is that any different than me just hitting it right here, even if I hit it lefty, like right here? And the catty was like, yeah, I know what you mean. He could with it. I mean, like, if you go lefty, you know, you could, there's just disaster. You can hit it right off the toe and it comes back, you know, backwards. It's just a big big risk. Perfect if you're dropping that. Like, you have to know that you're not giving that tournament away if you're not taking the chance. Yeah. I think you're overselling the risk a little bit. Like, I think it's a little bit of a stretch to be like, give up a stroke. Wow. What a heroic. to try to win it and like he totally disregarded his chances and didn't care about the money. It's like I think that he was making a pretty level headed like, this is going to give me the best chance to win and also the best chance to like finish second. I think he was, I don't think it was a one or the other is kind of what I, what I was thinking in your, I think your original tweet that Kirk was probably making fun of the most was a was a little bit painting it like, wow, this guy is like abandoning all safety options
Starting point is 00:12:29 and like go it for. I think he was like, yeah, I mean, I'm going to make contact here. And it's going to advance into a position that's like most likely going to be like very much more likely going to be in a spot that's better than dropping and hitting three. Well, that's what I don't know is if it would have been a better spot. But here's a little secret. You know, being a little exaggerating, exaggerated on social media, big part of the game. Big part of. Hyperbole is big part.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Being hyperbolic. I was the word I was looking for, Trent. being hyperbolic big time for the for the content for the engagement so yeah was i probably being a little bit too dramatic yes does kirk like to to kind of give me shit for that 100% we move on think if he left he hooks it around that tree up onto the green now we're talking real theatrics we're talking all time shot i mean it was an amazing amazing punch out i mean i watching him prepare for that gave me so much anxiety because he kept fidgeting over the ball and like the way they he was practiced swinging and his waggle was so just unathletic. And then the way he actually did it was super athletic and really, really cool hand eye coordination off the charts. But the whole pre-process, like the way he put his hands on his knees and just like completely gave up all hope. I've never seen an athlete. He looked day. He was just like, I'm fucked. You can't do that. Dude, you got to fucking stay in the moment. It was anxiety. And this catty was
Starting point is 00:13:53 really trying to figure out like, what do I tell this guy? This is a big. moment on the on the on the on the on the 17th green his caddy was really like dealing with standing behind him and seeing like if you had the right line i mean that was a real my heart was going for mr shank with with the craziest name in all of golf by the way oh yeah oh yeah uh he said afterwards about the tree and the blood it stinks i hit a really bad drive in the last hole i towed it wish it could have um lightly hit somebody and stayed where i had a chance to get to the green very funny that he said I wish it would have lightly hit somebody, like a very PC way to be like, I wish I would have smoked somebody with my drive.
Starting point is 00:14:34 It's kind of surprising that it got all the way back there because people were all lying the fairway, obviously. I thought for sure it was going to hit somebody in the kneecap and go right down. Yep, which I think he was alluding to. He probably felt the same way. He goes up, but I didn't deserve it. I had a chance with the wed shot that came up short. And then I had a chance with the put, which surprisingly actually hit the pin and came close.
Starting point is 00:14:52 That 18th Green has delivered some dramatics, man. And we've had Burns has had a bunch of big moments there. We had when Tiger almost won there, he came down to that hole and had a put to get into a playoff when it was only like his third start for in years when Paul Casey ended up winning, I believe, that year. So that green and that whole amphithear there at the vows bar has delivered some stuff. It almost did again with the ball hitting hole in the whole deal. But yeah, I enjoyed the back and forth between you and Kirk. And I do think that at the end of the day, you guys are if you're going to just be a yeah, yeah, I get a little bit. hyperbolic and then he likes to chirp back.
Starting point is 00:15:27 I think that makes it a very understandable for everyone. So I also tell more we're going to talk to about this, but 64 for 64 inside of seven feet last week. That is that is fucking amazing. Yeah. Those screens are not easy either. What's the percentage of like a seven foot putt or a six foot put, let's say? Probably just over 50%.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Yeah. I think 50's like right around nine feet. So I mean, that does include a lot of tap-ins. but it also probably includes a lot of five to seven footers. Right. Yeah. At least like at least probably out of those 64, what? 15 of those are from like four to six or seven feet like that's.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And to be a hundred percent of that is insane. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. And you have to worry about the next one because it's a, you know, it's not like us playing fucking two on two and you got like a four footer to win the hole. And if you miss it, it doesn't really matter. Your partner's in like he has to think on every pot. Like if this misses, I'm a little bit nervous.
Starting point is 00:16:24 about the next one and he just goes 64 for 6. And think about how crazy golf is. If he goes just 63 for 64, he like doesn't win. You know what I mean? Like it's that crazy. We're at the end of the day when if you just, if you go out of control good putting and then you look at that stat and you're like, man, if I would have missed a couple of those over the week.
Starting point is 00:16:45 If I went way above tour average, almost nearly perfect, I lose the tournament. I've come in second. Like that is, that is so hard for these guys to be able to accept. Like, how do you even think about that pre-tournament being like, I could go 63 for 64 and not win this thing? It's like, are you kidding me? Every week, we've gone over it a lot. Every golf tournament is a tie.
Starting point is 00:17:04 There's winners and there's losers, but it's a tie. If you just, the way that the strokes go, everyone is at the same place. So from four feet, the PGA tour average is 88%. From 5 feet 77%, from 6 feet 66%, from 7 feet 58%. So that like, the fact that even no matter how many he had, and like Dan said, maybe 40 of those or tap-ins or whatever, but that still leaves another, you know, whatever it might be, 12 to 20-something puts that he had that are in that probably four to seven-foot range where we're looking at 88%, 77%, 66%, 58%. You're bound to miss a few of those. And if he misses a few of those,
Starting point is 00:17:43 like he said, he's barely in the top 10. Missed four of those, you're not even in the top 10. That's amazing. That's fucking amazing. And that's tour average, like if he missed four of those. Yeah, but it's why, you know, the more sustainable is ball is ball striking because because putting is binary like that, right? Like those putts could miss by one inch and it's a stroke. Whereas if you're one inch off or, you know, a couple yards off of your approach play, it's still on the green. It's still a good shot. So it's like there's like kind of a saying on tour where it's like you want to be good week to week with your with your ball striking, but the guy who gets a hot putter wins. And so that's, you know, that's the difference is like it's just a binary outcome. Um, Barstool sports book. My two picks this week sucked. Adam Hadwin had a great start.
Starting point is 00:18:26 I had him top 10 at like plus two, 775, I think he was like tied for seven. Something after the first round, very similar to Keegan the week before. He shot like a trillion on Friday, missed the cut. And then my guy, Justin Suh, who made the cut was looking pretty good. He shot like a million over the weekend and finished like 50 of something. So he missed. I will say Kirk, uh, out of his three, out of his four picks,
Starting point is 00:18:47 he had one that hit, which was Tommy Fleetwood, top 10 at plus 27. five that cash he did text me a few holes into Matthew Fitzpatrick's round on Thursday and that's the worst bet in the history of golf this guy stinks and he was asked me what I knew that he didn't know we're going back and forth on it so we'll be back this week I don't know how we're going to do the match play we have to talk about that we're going to talk about that right now in terms of gambling because it's so much different in the format you have these groups of four only one person advances from the groups to the top 16 and then they play you know a March Madness style there all the way through.
Starting point is 00:19:22 So let's figure out how to do that gambling. The four of the cut bet will be on hiatus this week. It's got a vacation. We're on nice right now, aren't we though? Are we on a three game losing streak? Maybe four? Three or four? I had my first L.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I had Eric Cole missed the cut by one. He was two over the cut. It was one over. So I go to eight and one. How did link? Did I pick Lingmurth? Was that this week or last week? I think I picked Lingmurth this week.
Starting point is 00:19:47 How did he pick Lingmurth? Did he make the cut? I don't know. I didn't get a single tweet about it. I'm sure he didn't even come close. I was narcissistically looking at my own. And once I missed, I didn't really pay that much. I was pretty sad about it.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Looks like he made the cut. So we've got this week, we've got the Dell match play event. Interestingly, Justin Thomas is skipping it. And Justin Rose are skipping it. JT was asked about it, I believe during the players championship, because his kind of scheduling had come out. And he said, essentially, he doesn't like his chances at
Starting point is 00:20:21 at Austin Country Club. He said he's played there six times. He's absolutely sucked five times. He called his one decent year an outlier and he said he really likes Valspar and the Copperhead course believes he has a much better chance to win there. So he's going to play there and then skip the designated event
Starting point is 00:20:37 at the match play which is what he's doing. And then Justin Rose, I imagine somewhere similar on that mindset. I didn't really hear anything from him, but interesting to see those two not in the field. I love the clip going around this morning of the Stephen Ames that's become golf vernacular for when you just dust somebody at match play. Stephen Ames in 2006 had been asked about his chances in the week. He said anything
Starting point is 00:21:00 could happen, especially where he's hitting the ball right now. Tiger went out and I believe was eight up through eight, ended up winning nine and eight. So he was nine up with eight holes to play. The match was over on the 10th green when he made a put. I think he shot a front nine, 27. And then when asked about it afterwards, if there was any extra motivation outside of just wanting to win a match play match, he said absolutely. And then they alluded to the Stephen Ames quote. And Tiger said, I think he understands now. One of the more phenomenal Tiger really performances in history. It really is, go ahead. Well, I was going to say for guys like him, like we learned this in the last dance of Jordan, where Jordan would make things up that would make him, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:46 you know, score 35 points on a game that didn't matter. If you actually give them something, it's going to be 10 times worse. So to say that, to give him actual ammunition, he's going to fucking dust you. It's really just those four words. It's really just especially where he's hitting it. Because if he had just said anything can happen, I think Tiger would respect that, right? Tiger, you don't want, obviously a guy is going to say, I have a chance. I'm a professional golfer.
Starting point is 00:22:08 There's a world golf championship. If I'm here, I'm good enough to play. I think Tiger would respect that. It's when you add in the especially where he's hitting it. that's when you really poke the pair. Like that's not, if outside of the golf world, like that's not the meanest thing you could say.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But if no golf, and it's really not like, especially where he's hitting it. If anybody who doesn't watch golf here is that, he's like, oh, he's just giving an opinion on how that guy's playing. But in the golf world, he was basically like,
Starting point is 00:22:32 this guy fucking sucks. Yes, very disrespectful. I'm almost like on Stephen Ames side of like he was asked probably in an interview of like, what do you think you have any chance? Like, yeah, like he's not hitting it overly like impressive.
Starting point is 00:22:43 So like I probably get a decent chance. And then Tiger just steamrolls him. And now every year on Monday of the match boy, he is this verb where you just get Stephen Ames. It's like, it's over. You got fucking embarrassed. You got massacred. He basically like, fuck to your entire family. He declared prima knocked on you.
Starting point is 00:23:00 And you're like, no, I just was asked like if I have any chance. And I said I thought I might have a chance. Nope. So it's very funny. I love you got to love Tiger. And he did it in that he had like a white turtle like mock turtleneck thing that he was rocking at the time too. And he just was stone cold, all the clips from that front nine. Like he made a put and then Stephen Ames.
Starting point is 00:23:21 I saw in one hole when he went like four up through four. Tiger made another birdie putt. And then Stephen Ames was doing the thing on the green. He'd already lost the hole where he was going to like practice the putt anywhere. And the camera zooms out. And Tiger was like already marching to the T-box basically while he's over there, putts in her out. That's like, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:23:37 So yeah, all-time moment. But the match play, we talk about this every year. This is the last year of it, which is a damn shame because we always get hyped up for the Dadell match play. It's not going to be at Austin Country Club and it's not even going to really be in existence until they kind of figure that out going forward. But Austin Country Club is maybe the most interesting or one of the more interesting from a pure golf course perspective. Courses to watch every year. The ball bounces in the crazy spots. They hit like 450-yard drives on that par five on the back nine that goes down towards the bridge.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It's just a really interesting course to watch play because it's just pretty quirky and weird and wild. And you see like JT, I remember that one year, got up and down from. the gunch, the shit on the left on that part three. So you just see some crazy fucking shit at Austin Country Club. So from, again, like just looking at the golf course, it's always really fun to watch and play this course. Speaking to Justin Thomas, they said this on the broadcast yesterday and they say this from time to time.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And it just, it blows me away every time I hear it. Justin Thomas has the most wins on PGA tour since 2016, 2017 season with 14 wins on tour. I mean, you think about all these guys, ROM and fucking. Scotty and all these huge names, Speeth, Rory, Tiger Woods, Justin Thomas has the most wins on the PGA tour since 2016.
Starting point is 00:24:54 It's 2023 right now. This guy had been doing the damn thing. Yeah, I think he won five and 17, and he won a couple, he had a couple other years where he won multiple. Yeah, he's been a consistent winner. Consistent winner. The most.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, last year was kind of a down year. I think his only win was Southern Hills. And this year he actually hasn't been that great either. I don't think he's had a chance to win. But yeah, you're right. If you look at like the post tiger, I guess, you know, since that he, I guess, he's more than Rory in that time. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:25:21 It's a, it's a, it's a stat you hear that you text your buddies right now in a group chat and be like, do you guys know who has the most wins on PJ Torses this 2016? And no one will say Justin Thomas. I would have said Rory for sure. 100%. Well, we had a conversation on this show. Briggs, you double checking that right now? Is that what you're doing?
Starting point is 00:25:37 I'm seeing you looking at some stats. I'm pretty blown away by that stat. It's great. Yeah, I just wouldn't have been the top name. I should have asked you guys. Fuck. It would have been, it might even have been DJ for me.
Starting point is 00:25:51 Yeah, because he had that stretch. Honestly, I, I mean, it makes sense now that you've said it. I don't know who else had, but I probably would have said Rory.
Starting point is 00:25:59 It's like he won the torch airship. He's fucking, I don't know. I just would have said Rory Macroy. And, yeah, 14 wins since 2016, 2017 season.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So yeah, I mean, at the end of the day, this guy, this guy, he's, he's, He's one of the best right now.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And like we don't really talk about Justin Thomas that often. Well, we had a conversation a couple years ago. I think it was before Dan was on the show where it was over the next five years, who's going to be the best golfer? At the end of it, during it, all of it. And Justin Thomas's name was definitely thrown in there. Like I think he's the type of guy where as the sample size gets bigger,
Starting point is 00:26:33 he's going to be the guy who comes out on top. It's either him or Rory for sure. He at the point in his career where he has to like win a master's? Like, has he gotten that yet? or he's still way too young to be able to say that? He's 20. What is he 28? He's 29. I think he just needs to win a non-PGA championship.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Like a major that's either, you know, the Masters of the U.S. Open or the Open Championship, I think would do big things for his legacy, which is, you know, not to disrespect the PGA, but he's won two PGAs and a players. Yeah, but I'm saying let's, let's get a U.S. Open. Let's get it. But we're all agreeing. We're not saying that yet.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I said he doesn't need to win one yet. No, no. Like he's not. No, no. Those two, as much as people shit on the PGA, which we do as well sometimes. Like, those count. They definitely count.
Starting point is 00:27:12 What's the age you get to like, to like put the cherry on top of your career where you're like, this guy needs one more. Is it like 35? Is it 36 years old? Yeah. Like Adam Scott right now with like like another fucking major on the top of his like career right now.
Starting point is 00:27:28 It's pretty nuts to think what was Phil like 33 or 34 before he won his 34? That's crazy. Right. And DJ was old too. DJ didn't get one for a long time. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Yeah. Yeah, DJ, 2016, which I fucking blew in the dozen. God, I'm so rattle about that. Yeah, I think once you get to 40, it's less of a like needs to and more of like, if there's any chance, I hope. But I think it's like those, those between 35 and 40, I think is when it's like, all right. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:55 The two PGA's by you time. Like you'd like clearly you'd rather be Justin Thomas than Ricky Fowler. Like Ricky Fowler. Yeah. It's like it's got, it's just not happened. It hasn't happened. When is it going to happen with JT. You're kind of like he's already got these two.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Now he does need. the U.S. Open or a Masters or an Open Championship. But he's got time. And I feel like with DJ a couple years ago, before he won the second Masters, it was like he kind of needed, he was in that 35 to 40 range, I think. And he kind of needed that, or maybe he was 34, 33, but he needed that second major to
Starting point is 00:28:23 one major, you're not really an all-time great. You can't be, but two is a lot is obviously double one. Do you, with the resurgence of slick Rick. Hold on, hold on. You got, does that man check out? Yeah, yeah. You check, do you have the same answer? I watch I have the calculation app. This is going to be something that I say, and I'm going to say,
Starting point is 00:28:39 laughed it. And it was like, two is double one. One plus one. With the resurgence of Ricky Fowler's game, would you guys say that he's going to win a major in his career or no?
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Starting point is 00:30:53 I think he's going to win the Masters. I just think not this year necessarily, but at some point because I think he's too handsome and clean to not have put on that green jacket. Like he would look great in that thing. Hopefully he doesn't do it with one of his preposterous orange outfits. Maybe he does it with a subtle one where he mostly wears black. White with some orange trim or something. But I think he is just, he would look too good.
Starting point is 00:31:17 in that green jacket. Him and that Masters Champions dinner photo every year would look great. So I just see him up there with a green jacket on. I really do. He finished second before,
Starting point is 00:31:28 I think, right? And he finished a little second one. You finished a second old one. I think, yeah, he finished top five in all four. He's been great in the majors. He's been great in the majors.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Plus that awesome. I know you were asking that for me to answer. I, you know, I'll believe when I see it. I think a betting man, I think as a betting man, I think you're in the better position.
Starting point is 00:31:48 I think it's probably plus money pretty high for him to win a major in his career. Wouldn't it be? Yeah, dude. In his career, I'm saying. It's pretty wild to think in 2014, I think it was when he finished top five in all four majors. Yeah. It was nine years ago. It doesn't say it was long time ago.
Starting point is 00:32:07 But at this point, it would be surprising for him to win one rather than his career continue to be the way it has been since he first came on PG tour, right? Like it would be surprising. at this point for Ricky Fowler to win a major. It's not like in the cards for him to do it. It would be like, oh, shit, he did it. Right. I think he's going to win again on the PJ tour.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I think he might win this year. He's playing very well, but obviously that's a very different proposition. I would love to see him when. That'd be great for the game of golf. My God. If someone went into one of those, a cryo chamber, whatever they call it, if somebody went into one of those for five years and they came out and you said, dude, Ricky Fowler won the Masters.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I think they'd be like, what? Yeah. No way. Right. No way. That's a good. That's great. That's a cryo test.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I like that. Yeah. Zander's getting in there too, which is just, there's that the whole little pool of guys that, like, you just want to win every single year. We always, I mean, Zander's probably the number one. He's going to win the master's, like, every single year.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Every single year, he looks like the best guy to pick on the Barstall sports book. It's just like, is that ever going to happen? He seems like he's just going to run into one at some point. He's going to run into a major. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:33:10 But it's got to be Zander. He's just going to, he's just going to laugh about it and it's going to happen. You're just like, we act like it's just going to fall on his lap. It's just not, it just might never happen. It just might never happen. How old is he? Zander.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Oh, let me guess. Same ages, same ages, uh, sorry. JT. probably, he's probably turned 30, right? Yeah, they're all in that same high school class. So he's either 29 or 30. God, that's the answer. Had, uh, the reason I, so I, I told you guys pre show, I think.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I don't know if I said it on the show, but I put money on Max Homer to win the master's this year. I did it last night. And the reason is because we were, going over with one of my buddies, we were going over the top 10 in the world and how pretty much all of them at this point have had good showings at the Masters, like literally all of them. It's just a course that like the best top players play well there. The best players win a lot there from Jack Nicholas has won six times.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Tiger Woods has won there five times. Like it's no coincidence that the best players that have racked up the most majors have won the most times at this course. It's just like the best players seem to play well there. And Max Homa has now vaulted. himself into, I think he's sixth in the world. So I was going through being like all the top players have all like played well there. He hasn't quite yet, but now he's one of the top players.
Starting point is 00:34:22 So he should play well there, which is why I started getting into it. And it started we were going back through a lot of these guys. And dude, Zander had what, two out of three years in a row where he almost or very easily could have won the Masters. He had in 2019, he had the solo lead. after his heroics through the middle stretch of the back nine. And then he kind of blew it coming over the last couple holes, finished tied for second.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And then 2021, remember he got tied for the lead, I think with Hadegham and then hit that ball in the water on, on what, on 16? Is that what he had? I think it was 16, yeah. 16.
Starting point is 00:34:59 And you're like, what the fuck? So he has been right there. Last year he was, I think you're right, he was like the perennial, the go-to pick to anybody that you talked to. and he missed the cut last year at the master.
Starting point is 00:35:11 You never fucking know. But he does feel like a guy too. Him and Ricky, I kind of almost put them in the same bucket as I just see them winning the masters. I don't know why. I'm sure this is a reputation that Max is trying to shed a little bit as like the internet guy. But he's like so close to the internet. It would be wild to see him in a green jacket.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah, I feel like we would get some access or some videos that are not authorized. You know what I mean? Like I think he would show a little too much of Augusta. I just, all these other guys like Xander and Ricky. and everybody who's wanted, you're like, oh, I can, that I can see that. But with him, and I want him to do it badly, especially now that Riggs has money on it. But like, it's just to be such a mind fuck to see Max Homo with the green jacket. It'd be crazy to see him in the Butler cabin and the awkward stuff with Nance and the whole thing and the Augusta Greek.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And then like four hours later, he's roasting somebody's swing on Twitter. That'd be like, that's very bizarre to think about. I agree with you. So it's not making me feel better about it. my bet, but I just think he played so well at the President's Cup. He played very well at the players, finished tied for sixth, I believe, as a guy that has been like winning a bunch in the last three or four years, especially the last couple years, including a big event for him, but hadn't quite brought it in the biggest events,
Starting point is 00:36:25 the majors in particular, I think if you look at the President's Cup, which essentially is on that level of like a huge event for him in the moment, how much it meant to him, he played phenomenal. And then you look at the players championship, which are all a real sort of samples in the last eight months or whatever it's been, I like his chances going in. I think he's going to play well at Augusta. If Max does do it, that will be the internet's first green jacket,
Starting point is 00:36:47 and we all will have to rejoice. As a creature of the internet, I'm looking at three other creatures of the internet here as well. If he wins it, that's the internet's first green jacket. It might be our new tagline for foreplay, creatures of the internet. That's what we are, man.
Starting point is 00:37:01 We are that. You know, you come up in different ways. You come up on TV, you come up on the radio, you come up through the newspaper, you come up through however you find your way to the internet i was thinking about that the day um creatures i was on twitter and we were just talking about something stupid or we everyone was like something was going viral and all of barstool was like getting in on it and i was thinking about
Starting point is 00:37:20 all these other like youtube brands now these all these golf brands there's like the good goods and all these guys they're so just like on youtube and that's their world and they're on instagram and ticot but like our brand has been like grown on this disgusting landscape of Twitter. Like we've like the stuff that we've tweeted about and talked about and argued about is just always like that's how we came up. And it's just such a cut throat, disgusting, dirty, horrific, scary place to grow up as opposed to like everything else is so like colors and thumbnails and and Instagram and TikTok and algorithms. And we were just like, if you don't think Wayne Gretzky could have played in today's fucking NHL, you can go lick my
Starting point is 00:38:03 asshole. And everyone's like, I'm going to come to Barrett. and shit down your throat. And it's like, it's real fucking fighting. And like Dave tweeting out, like, if Frankie Borelli's not at the office in the next four minutes, he's fired.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And like me on the, on the fucking train being like, I can't get there. We're locked in the fucking tunnel. I can't get the train up. I'd call people. Like, that was on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:38:23 dude. That's where we lived. Like, hearts racing, cancer growing in our stomach. That's where we fucking live, bro. And no one's ever going to take that away from us.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I don't give a fuck what our thumbnails look like. It's because, We grew up in a fucking mud. Like, we had a radio show that I used to open up the song with the mud song. Mud, mud, I love mud.
Starting point is 00:38:42 I absolutely, wildly wild about mud. You can't go around it. You have to jump into it. Super duper, super whatever. The end of the song's amazing. But that's what we fucking grew up in.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I think about that with Dave a lot. Like he's now like the head of the, he's been the head of this company forever. But he does these interviews and these and they're at Wall Street and they're hitting the bell. And like, and I look at him and I'm like, do you know what that like,
Starting point is 00:39:04 he's the internet dude he is a he is the internet right he is like he's gone through it all i've we've watched him go through it all and we're similar like you get hired by that and you sort of go through the same things and a lot of it is on twitter where i i've i've forgotten the wars that we've been in on twitter we've been through so many of them it's no other brand really came up that way it's just like that's where our like you could watch every step we've taken it's still in the mud back there in the trenches like you know they they've they've preserved the battlefield and you can walk there and you can buy tickets and you can walk around and see all the shells on the ground and you have to step over the landmines that are still in there that's just where we've got hasn't been easy bro it hasn't
Starting point is 00:39:42 we haven't we weren't handed an algorithm this is we we had to fucking fight tooth and nail to survive every day i i just think that people don't realize how many years of fucking bullshit on twitter you had to deal with and now twitter's just such a twitter's not even a real thing anymore which is unfortunate but it still is for like the moment moment, but like it's just a fart in the wind, a tweet. You know what I mean? YouTube and TikTok's like, that's what you get the money on. That's what every that's the real world, I feel like. And Twitter's like for my world, it's a little different because like, you know, the shafters and the like, like, those guys are big on Twitter, but you're totally right. Like, and that's been a big,
Starting point is 00:40:21 that's been a big difference in emphasis when I came to Barstool was like tweets like written word. It's just like that doesn't really put money in our pockets. It's good for the brand. It's good for reputation. But it's, it's, you're right. It's the social videos and the videos on you. And that's unfortunate is my point. That sucks because like that shouldn't be. I feel like Twitter's where you actually see who people are. Twitter's value is I Twitter's value and it's not in what TikTok has in Instagram and all those.
Starting point is 00:40:45 But its value is I can tell if someone's funny or not through Twitter. I know right. Like you can't hide on there. You can't TikTok's got all these, you know, all this flashing and all these, you can put it into a different like framework where it's like, oh, that's a funny video. Twitter, you are very exposed one way or the other. you people see who you are on Twitter and they could see you as a psychopath i mean if you follow me on a on a west coast trip from 10 o'clock till one o'clock in the morning i'm going fucking bananas about
Starting point is 00:41:14 the islanders if you follow trent on a monday night he's talking about roses and and double dates and and luggage it's just like you don't you don't see that stuff in like a two hour video on you you know i mean you don't see that in every other form of social media you can really see who the people are you can actually see who those people are on twitter and i just just wish that Twitter meant more. I wish that like that actually put asses in the seats as opposed to just being like, oh, if you want to see their personality, that's where it is. Yeah. I think it's still kind of there. I guess Elon's trying to do it, but it's just never going to work. He's turning it into TikTok. That's like the way to do. Yeah. Which, which kind of, and it doesn't
Starting point is 00:41:52 make it the same as it used to. It's getting weird now. I got a notification of the day that like, I had to take all the security off of my Twitter, unless I signed up for Twitter blue. They're like, you no longer have security on your account. We're taking away like two authentication factor, whatever, if you, unless you pay $7 a month, I'm like, that's illegal. You can't do. This is crazy. What happened to Twitter?
Starting point is 00:42:13 What happened to Twitter? Bots, man. The whole thing's just bots pretty much is what happened. Instagram bots are out of control. When are they going to just, isn't it so easy to just get rid of them? Shouldn't it just, we have facial scanners on our phones. Shouldn't it just be like you have to scan your face in to just be a real person? Right.
Starting point is 00:42:30 because when you see a fake person comment, you can tell right away. I got $5,000 for my juice and pussy. What the fuck you're talking about? What are you talking about? The name is like 047 and then the picture is just a smokeshow woman with 10 followers. It's like, don't click on my account if you want to get naughty today.
Starting point is 00:42:45 It's just like, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do it. Also, like to get into our phone, we have to have some sort of security system to make sure that we're a real person. Why can't that then just unlock you having an account on Instagram?
Starting point is 00:42:58 I don't understand. It should be as simple as that. that. And I don't care about that. I would guess that technology is good enough that they can just fake like they can just trick the system. Right. Like they do that with the bots like that's pretty much what happened with the Taylor Swift tickets, which is like the bots had doing with the votes, man. They were so good. They got in there that they literally were able to trick like the human authentication system and all the bots took over and drove all the prices up and it ruined like the Taylor Swift ticket situation. So I just think they're probably good enough to create accounts.
Starting point is 00:43:28 I've actually watched the bots get more human-like in real time because I'm sure you guys get these DMs too where originally you would get DMs and it would say, you know, hey luggage guy, Trent, because that's my Instagram name or whatever. And then they would be like, if you pay $5,000, I can get you a million followers or whatever. But now it's starting to get more like, hey, Trent, I got a question. And it's like, oh, maybe this is like a stoolie asking about something. And it ends up being the same thing. but it gets more personal each time. And then it's just like, hey, Trent. And then I feel like it picks up on trends of things that I'm posting and tries to relate it to that.
Starting point is 00:44:04 So it's getting to a point where the bots are getting much, much better, which is not a good thing. Who's in charge of the bots? Who is who is in charge of defeating them? Do we have like a bot team that like goes after these people? The world I'm saying. Like is the world caring about these things? Well, I think there's got to be a side of it. They would never admit this where users are users.
Starting point is 00:44:26 So it looks like, you know, this is how many users, especially Twitter, maybe not so much anymore with Elon, but oh, look, our user base is growing this much over each quarter. They're not saying how many of those are bots, but it looks good on a quarterly sheet of this is how many new users there are on our platform. I think that's what Elon was trying to hold up Twitter over was the bot situation where he's like, how many of your users are real and how many of them are bots? And they were like, we don't know. And then he ended up just having to buy it anyway. So I don't know that to transplant, I don't know that anybody is really that works on that side of it.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Is that incentivized to have the bots go away because then users go away and they want to act like their users are really high so that their price goes up so that they all make more money, I think. Right. Fucking Mark Zuckerberg never thought this is going to happen when he was writing shit on his Harvard dorm room window. Zuckerberg's laying people off.
Starting point is 00:45:17 How many, he wrote a letter last week? You're muted. Dan, can't hear you. Sorry about that. I was saying, yeah, they're in trouble. Meta's in trouble. They like, I don't think that that whole, that metaverse thing was the dumbest risk they could have possibly take.
Starting point is 00:45:30 The dumbest initiative that is what happens when you let a nerd decide how to, how humans are going to socialize the future. At some point, someone has to take that risk to get the world to that point, right? But do we want to get to that point? Do people want to get to that point? I don't know. I don't know if that's the right answer, but I know that if the world was to get to the point where they were going to have virtual meetings and all this stuff was going to be autonomous and you were going to be able to go to the beach with your buddy, even though.
Starting point is 00:45:53 you're sitting in your fucking computer room. If we wanted to get the world to that point, somebody in Zuckerberg's position, with all the money at his disposal, with all the technology, would have had to be like, we're going all in on this. And then without that,
Starting point is 00:46:07 we don't get there. We don't get there. I'm with Frankie. I think it's a little ridiculous to be like, I'm going to point to Mark Zuckerberg and be like, what a dumb call. It's like,
Starting point is 00:46:16 dude, that guy has made a lot of calls. And like, somebody's got to make those bold decisions to get to the point where we are. he's going for it and he made more money than God going for it and eventually it's going to like work out for it. I'm not saying that he's an idiot obviously. I'm just, I don't think that the metaverse that them's, you know, really buying in as that as a future of the company is going to pay off in the near term. I'm saying. I mean this. Well, I asked this question in the most objective terms possible. How smart is Mark Zuckerberg? Like you look at a guy like Elon, right? And he's just, I've talked a lot of shit about him over the years, but it's pretty clear that like his brain works in.
Starting point is 00:46:53 a different way and his IQ was like 400. But Zuckerberg, he was a guy at Harvard who just created this thing and it took off. Now, you could argue that that idea is incredibly smart. And it, you know, it's it's a butterfly effect of all the things that happened from there. But then to have the same guy continuing to make decisions. It's his company. He's more than in a position to do that. But like, how smart is he really? I think he's a brilliant coder. And I think in that world, I think that's like what he does. The problem with him in my my opinion is that he's not like a real he doesn't have like realistic values like a regular person he's not like he's a robot and he's always proved to be a robot when it comes to like
Starting point is 00:47:32 the way he puts on sunscreen on his face and that makes me think he's the way he speaks the way he speaks there's no deny he's smart i'm saying like he doesn't think though i think Elon thinks a little bit more like a rational person like an actual human being the way he like portrays his thoughts on Twitter you're like oh that's like a normal guy with a billion dollars billions and billions of I think Mark Zuckerberg is like the prototypical nerd that thinks like he's just the smartest guy in the room. He probably is, but he's going to do things the way that he thinks the world needs to be efficient and like all that stuff. Like that's just different than like this would be cool. I think he's thinking like this is the future of the world.
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm just always curious, people who rise to those positions. And it's in any industry like entertainment tech, whatever you want to say. Like how are we sure that the people in these positions are the right guys? Oh, you don't. They just happen to be there. Right. I'm always, I'm fascinated by that. It's a meritocracy, right?
Starting point is 00:48:22 It's like they earned, they like create, they got there. They're the ones. My only point to you, Dan, was that I just think it's a little bit, like, it's, it's lazy and obvious to be like, oh, that is not going to work out in the short term. Well, no shit, they just laid off 10,000 employees. It's like the guy, well, I guess my point is to look at it more on a macro scale, it's like, the guys made incredibly bold, aggressive choices that have worked out for 20 years and gotten Facebook to be one of the most valuable things in the world that like, I think
Starting point is 00:48:48 it's a little, again, just short-sighted to be like, what an idiotic decision. It's like, well, he's going to regroup. He's going to lay off 10,000 people, whatever, and he's going to like condense things and then try again. And clearly him trying again has worked out over time. And in order for people to like, as cliché as it is, like, change the world, you got to make pretty fucking crazy, bold decisions that are going to, that are going to lead you to sometimes, like, throwing a brick against a window that's an unbreakable window and it breaks. And everybody makes fun of you on the internet.
Starting point is 00:49:17 And guess what? You just keep chugging along to the point where he, a couple of years later, Elon Musk, obviously in this situation became like the richest person of the world, was able to buy Twitter for however 40-something billion dollars for fun. And it's like, that's just kind of what it takes, I think. I want to be clear. I wasn't saying Mark Zuckerberg is stupid in any way. I'm just fascinated by the intelligence of the people who get in those positions and how you,
Starting point is 00:49:42 like it wasn't like we picked Mark Zuckerberg from a young age and was like, that's a phenom. He was like, I want to create this weird college network of, you know, good looking women. And like, now we're going to now we create this big thing. So it's just, it's fascinating to me how those people when they get in those positions, I guess. You know, I always think about when you go back in time and they always like pictured the future, whoever like drew that picture, whenever like it started to form, like, oh, the future is going to have robots. And they're going to be like, they're going to look like people and they're going to do our jobs and they're going to have flying cars.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And we're going to have all these things like, whoever. started to paint that picture, we've just been slowly moving towards that as if that was the goal. You know what I mean? Have you ever thought about it that way where it's like, like they just said what they thought the future was going to be?
Starting point is 00:50:28 And it feels like we've always just moved towards trying to achieve that. They could have essentially said anything. Like I wonder if in the 1800s or whatever or the 1,200s, whenever these people were like deciding on what they thought, I don't know the numbers, but whenever they decided on what they thought
Starting point is 00:50:43 the world was going to happen, if they said like bananas we're going to take over the planet, would we have then, like, put all of our money and resources into trying to put, like, brains inside bananas and putting arms on them and, like, they would be, you know what I mean? Like, no matter what they said, would we have tried to accomplish it. I don't think there's probably, you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean slightly? Like, whatever, like, we're just moving towards, like, what they said.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Like, if one guy was like, I want, I want applesauce to come out of the water, out of the fountains. And if that would have just caught on, like, Elon would have been like, we got to get this applesau out of these fountains, like, today. No, I think there's probably part of the... What a conversation, by the way. I think there's probably part of it. Went up on the Mean Girls podcast. Oh, yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:51:24 Watch out for these clips. Alex, be very, be very gentle. Do not put these out there. No. But I'm sure there's a part of the human brain... These are, that we need numbers, dude. These are perfect. True.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And there's probably a part of the human brain that everybody shares to a degree that's like, that's normal. We're going to keep advancing in this way. Right, right, right. The reason it works is because we think it's just like that's what you have to do. Right. I mean, a few weeks ago, we talked about this AI bot that told the reporter to, like, leave his wife and family. So it's like, they're, I mean, things are moving.
Starting point is 00:51:54 You know what's actually coming out tomorrow night? I forgot to tell you guys this before. What? What's that? Fixing Frankie, episode three, Trevor Immleman, putting lessons. Masters winner. Wednesday night. We're talking about the fucking masters coming up.
Starting point is 00:52:11 This is Trevor Emelman. He is a master's winner. He is one of our good friends. you have to be able to put really well at Augustine National to win the Masters. So I went down to Florida, to Orlando, didn't go to Disney, unfortunately, but he went to Orlando and we met with Trevor. I've gotten fixed, quote unquote, in all different sorts of ways. Episode one was with Dr. Brett McKay. We learned a process slowing myself down, playing within myself, speaking out loud, finding the right pre-shot routine.
Starting point is 00:52:42 episode two we had Scott Fawcett, that lunatic, all about target golf and where to aim and why are you giving up certain locations on the golf course that just because people say this is the location, you really should be looking at this one because it makes the most sense, picking the right clubs, looking at how to read greens, all of that stuff. So that really helped me make my game better throughout the year. And hopefully on YouTube, you guys have seen the year of better golf I've been playing compared to last year. I was just like hitting it all over the place. Could barely break 90 on a big video. And now it's like, let's fucking go. We're actually playing really good golf. Now, how do I get to that
Starting point is 00:53:22 next step? It's all short game in putting. We fix my chipping. I have confidence. But putting has just been a shit show. I'm three putting. I can never make a putt in a scramble. I asked Trevor, how do I approach every single putt to try and make it? Like, I want to actually try and make putts. And if I'm not making putts, how do I just roll it right behind the hole? And like, you always hear like, get it within that two foot radius. And Trevor figured out a system for me, making every single putt straight, finding that line, how to read it, how he reads it, how he holds the putter, how he grips it, what he's thinking as he's reading a green. It's fucking really interesting stuff. It's not going to blow you away visually. We didn't get like all these different angles and
Starting point is 00:53:59 drones and all this stuff. It's legitimately just how does Trevor Emelman putt? How does he assess my putting and how do we make it better? I've gone with that mindset into all three episodes of like, how do we just get better if you watch this video? And I really genuinely think that anyone watching this is going to get so much better at putting. And you're going to have a practice system to then get better. It's all about practice. You have to practice, but you have to have the right system. So that's tonight. What are we doing? Seven p.m. Wednesday? Is that right, Alex Bush? Tuesday. Sorry, tomorrow night, 7 p.m. Yeah, we can do seven. We were thinking six, but I know you like it
Starting point is 00:54:35 later because last week. I do like seven p.m. It's just clean. Yeah. Let's see a hockey game. Yeah. 7 p.m. reminds me of like a hockey game or a baseball game. 6 p.m. is a not real time. No, there's a reason no event starts at 6 p.m. because it's just a weird time in the world. Agreed. 7 p.m. is when we're doing it.
Starting point is 00:54:51 That's tomorrow night. Send it to your friends. Let's get in the, let's get involved. We're going to get in the chat. I'll be there answering any questions you have. That's on our YouTube page tomorrow. But yeah, Trevor Emelman, fucking superstar. The golf capital of the world,
Starting point is 00:55:10 Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, plays host to more than 3 million rounds per year. and you should be part of that number. Caledonia Golf and Fish Club and True Blue Golf Club, our Myrtle Beach highest ranked golf courses. Look, those two tracks, which we've been to. We played, we put out video. We did Barsoe Classic, True Blue.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Those two tracks, Mike Strans, are as good of golf courses as I've seen anywhere in my life. Dude, Caledonia, we didn't. We didn't play Caledonia when we took our trip, did we? No. Oh, dude. So we went down there for the Barstle Classic, and it was a True Blue,
Starting point is 00:55:43 and then we went and shot. some things at Caledonia. I want to make a trip down there to play Caledonia because that place is unreal. It's like the most beautiful course you've seen. Seriously. You can't believe it's Mike Stranz that was like more reserved. So it's a little bit more classic style golf course with just the craziest bunkers you've ever seen your entire life. Like it's not quirky. It's not like different. But like it's a beautiful golf course man. Crazy amount of azaleas. Plus on site lodgings. You're going to book a trip for you and your buddies. Maybe. your significant other, maybe a family trip.
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Starting point is 00:56:51 Visit Caledonia Golf Vacations.com. What I was looking at earlier, Frankie, when you were talking about the Justice Thomas thing, was I was actually scouring the front of the Golf Channel website. And on the right, they always have their top 10 stories, top stories. And I was scrolling, I was reading through them to see out of curiosity, if any of them were about live. I was going to ask you guys. And not a single one is.
Starting point is 00:57:24 The only one that is potentially, it says Sergio responds to Freddie will enjoy dinner, which isn't even really about live. It's obviously about the master's dinner chatter that's been going on for the champions dinner. So I found that incredibly curious that golf channel, which, you know, if you go to like, I've noticed like golf digest account and Dan's former employer, like their Instagram account, their tour account. They are, they just post live stuff like it's normal,
Starting point is 00:57:51 which I think I would, I would kind of guess golf channel would be doing as well. So I was a little bit surprised, to be honestly, to see like not a single one of their thing says, you know, Danny Lee wins in four-way playoff to win live golf Tucson and win four and a half million dollars
Starting point is 00:58:07 rather than one. Like, it's nowhere to be found on there. Did you guys watch any of it at all? No. No. Yeah. So I watched it.
Starting point is 00:58:15 You know, I don't, I really don't hate one. watching it. And I think people have the wrong idea and think, oh, I'm anti-Live. Just because I don't think it's going to succeed commercially does not mean I'm anti-Liv. But I will say, I think it's in a really bad spot commercially because the interest seems to be waning. They're not going to have new signings. And the team, it's all about the team. That's the whole model. And the team format just feels like a weird side show in the background. And it hasn't been close. This time, it wasn't
Starting point is 00:58:39 close last time. There's no fans of these teams right now. There's no high flyers fans. And so if you guys, you should read Alan Shipnuck's article. I retweeted it. He went to the live event and he talked to guys who were in a player meeting who were talking about it. They're talking about moving a lot of the money to the team competition. So where the team competition has more money than the individual, I mean, they have to add buzz to these team things somehow. And they're really trying to make golf into a team sport. And I just don't think that that's what these guys signed up for.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And I don't think it's going to work. Yeah, it just has no juice. It's got no juice for me right now. It had juice last year. I was really into it. I was like, I liked all the storylines. I like that people on both sides were getting butt hurt. I enjoyed watching people squirm on Twitter and turn it.
Starting point is 00:59:17 into a political fucking fiasco. And now it's just, it's just fucking nothing to me. Like, it's just, there's no storylines. I really don't care if anyone gets into a four-way playoff, unless it's like the golfers that I really like. I mean, that's the only reason I'm going to watch golf is to watch golfers I like. I'm not a, I'm only a fan of a couple guys on tour.
Starting point is 00:59:38 And that's like really what we all do as sport fans. So if you're going to tell me Danny Lee, like, like, hit a nice pot. I'm like, that's like the, a regular day on the PJ tour for me where I'm like, like, okay, cool. Taylor Moore winning was not, I wasn't popping champagne for Taylor Moore. And he's on the show. I'll tell him that. Like, that's just like, you need to be a big name for me to care about it. Just like, that's the way, that's the way the world works. You have to be a big name for that to work. And they don't have that for me right now. I don't care about Brooks Kevka. I don't care about Phil Mickelson right now. It's just like, they've just lost the juice. Last year I did. Last year they had it, man. They fucking had a lot of momentum last year. And now it's just like, I don't give a fuck. I thought Dan had a really good point in your tweet about the juice, which was that. the live golf Tucson event yesterday.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Playoff between Louis Oostahusin, Danny Lee, Brennan, Steele, and Carlos Ortiz in Tucson. Biggest names were not a factor. In only a 48-man field, Dustin Johnson finished tied for 13th. Reed T-18, KM. Smith, T-24, Kepka T-24, Fee-24, Phil T-30, Bryson, T-44th, and a 48-man field. DJ Bryson, Kepka, Phil, Reed, answer, have not finished inside the top 10. and two events yet this year. And that kills the juice. Like you need like when DJ made that put in the playoff last year,
Starting point is 01:00:53 there was some juice around that. That clip got some numb numbies, as we say, in the business around Twitter. People are talking about it. There's just really no juice when you get Danny Lee make a put to win. And that obviously kills them. And yeah, I, you know, I think that there's there's almost more juice now about chatter on like, are people going to try to get back on the PGA tour?
Starting point is 01:01:16 And like there's some Brooks Kepka chatter and there's some, there's some rumors going around about can people find a pathway to get back to the PGA tour if they want to. Is the tour going to offer some kind of immunity one time thing? Are they never going to offer anything like that? What's it going to look like? And, you know, I've had a lot of conversations with people in the last few weeks where, you know, we've spoken a lot about the reeds and the Brysons and the Sergio's guys that have always sort of been a bit controversial and had issues with the tour and issues with other people are the guys that are on. Unlive now. And those people that are always complaining or always kind of voicing their opinion about their, you know, unhappiness with certain things, they're never pleased and never happy. And now we're getting into where they're a year into their live thing. Those
Starting point is 01:02:01 types of people always find something to complain about. They're going to start pitching. They're going to start, things are going to start to leak and get out where they're not perfectly happy with everything live. And that's not a function of shooting on live at all. That's a function of human nature and people that are now a year into. something they're not going to just love every single aspect of everything that they're now doing on live and those negative feelings are going to start to emerge we're going to start to hear comments or interviews or whatever and it's going to be quite interesting to see how all that stuff goes public when you're complaining about stuff like if you're Patrick greener brison and you're
Starting point is 01:02:35 complaining your whole entire career about things is the basis of why they were complaining because they felt like they were being cheated out of winning a tournament and then making money and being successful where now they just get guaranteed money and all of those cares and complaining goes out no you don't think so no because a guy like patrick reed i mean he got kicked off his college golf team because he's got issues he's accused of cheating and stealing stuff then he gets on the pj tour he gets accused of cheating and stealing stuff he has his wife tweeting out stuff about how they're bitching about they get bad seats from the pGA tour and then he starts bitching about the pj tour doesn't provide them enough money. And then he put it's those types of people, in my opinion,
Starting point is 01:03:12 they always find something to complain about. Yeah. They are never just perfectly happy. Is there a chance that the PJ tour just completely shuts the door on them and just moves on them? Because the sobering thing for their for live guys is that the tour is just moving on. Like it just keeps rolling. Stars keep emerging. There's still enough huge names. There's so many big names still that you don't necessarily need these guys who are going to come back. and maybe bitch or just want to come back at all. Like, is there a chance that the PJ tour is just like, no, you guys made a choice and we're moving?
Starting point is 01:03:44 I don't think that they would ever do a lifetime ban. I think that would also probably, it would be another legal headache. But I also, I don't think it's good for anybody. I don't think it's in the best interest of the PJ tour. I think it would be an unbelievable gesture if they, I mean, there's got to be some sort of penalty. But it would be a victory for them. It would be, you know, these guys have to come back with their tail between their legs and
Starting point is 01:04:03 basically say, I'm sorry, I made a mistake. And as a fan, I want those guys back. If those guys want to go back to the PJ tour, I don't see anyone who'd be like, oh, Dustin Johnson, unforgivable what he did. Don't let him play the tour any longer. We want the, we want the Dustons. We want Brooks. We want those guys back if they want to be back.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Bryce. I disagree. I do not think there's going to be a pathway back. I think those guys are out. And here's why is because I think that there's one thing that you'll never be able to get over, which is that there are many guys, Roy McElroy, Morrow, Wills Alatoris, his numbers going around, Justin Thomas, Max Homa. there are guys, Kylemore Cowell that turned down tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars to go to live.
Starting point is 01:04:43 Turn down that much money to go to live. Those guys now are on the PGA tour playing on the PGA tour. If these guys, Brooks Kepka or anybody else now or within a year or within two years from now, come back to the PGA tour, every one of those guys will be eternally fucking rattled because they are now in the same exact position that Brooks Kepka is in, Dustin Johnson's in, except those guys got to just take $100 or $200 million, and these other guys didn't. And that forever are the guys that make up the PGA tour,
Starting point is 01:05:15 the guys that are literally holding meetings in the PGA tour that run the membership of the PGA tour. We'll never let that happen in my opinion. I think they'll be upset about it. And we asked Max Homa this question at the players, and he said that he's like, the petty side of me will want to hold that grudge. But the realistic side of me thinks it's better if everybody comes back.
Starting point is 01:05:32 And it's also there is a definite feeling on tour yes those guys there's definitely some animosity toward the guys who took the money if they try to come back but there's also a lot of guys who are like Phil was right we're playing for a lot more money now because this happened they didn't have a problem when they went the first place it was when they came back and tried to sue the tour I just don't think a lifetime ban is
Starting point is 01:05:50 you think they bet the Dustin Johnson if he comes after the season it says I made a mistake I want to come back and you think they say tough shit DJ you're done yes I don't think they say you're just back now there's no way I don't know how they could No it's got to be like a one year one year one year penalty and if you're not a lifetime member, you've got to earn your status back or something like that. So you think they're going to allow them to have just taken their hundreds of millions of
Starting point is 01:06:12 dollars and then they're just in the same spot that Rory and them are at except they got to take $100 billion? I mean, they're not in the same spot. They haven't been in the player impact program. They haven't been playing in all these events. They're world ranking is way lower. Like, there's definitely things that have happened. But I'm saying if they, if one year from now, DJ is just back on the BGA tour, he's in the same spot. He's able to starting next season or whenever it would be, he's able to start in January at the farmer's insurance and then go to Phoenix Open and able to get his standing on the PIP. He's able to earn his world ranking back. So that's stuff that he maybe fell down in those rankings in isn't gone. He now has that same
Starting point is 01:06:48 opportunities and the same spies playing on the same tour, except he just got to take a bunch of money. I think people would, I think there are many, many people that would not allow that to have. The victory might be sweet enough to have those guys come back, watching them come back to the PJ tour being like, we knew that wasn't going to work. I get that they have hundreds of millions of dollars more in their bank account, but having those guys crawl back to the PJ tour might be enough. And Rory, like, I don't know who would come down to. You know, they'd probably get everybody together and be like, what should we do about this?
Starting point is 01:07:17 Rory seems like a guy who might be like, yeah, just let him come back. Because it's more, the sport is more interesting if all those guys are involved. The only thing that I think Monaghan would want included in this is if he could publicly slap Greg Norman across the face on live. at the players championship next year. Get Dana White involved, have the power slap. That's what I mean. James on one side, Greg Norman.
Starting point is 01:07:40 And Monahan just gets to look at him on the face and be like, you dumb idiot. And he just smacks him in the face. But then, you know, maybe some, maybe it's just a slap line. Maybe whoever really hated Monahan in his bed. Maybe Phil gets to slap Monaghan in the face. Be like, look, oh, where did you find out of $220 million? Where'd you find all this $200 million? Where'd that pit money from, Moni?
Starting point is 01:07:59 Why'd you make me ruin my fucking legacy? I was one of the most liked golfers in the planet. I'm the fucking master's champion. I want all these fucking things. I'm going to smack the shit out of you because now I had to go to the fucking Saudis and ruin my life because you just wouldn't pony up five years ago when I've been asking. I have all these emails begging you to pay us more.
Starting point is 01:08:17 So I think there could be a slap off. I really do. I think that turned that into the Ryder Cup or the President's Cup. Just turn into a fucking slap match. No idea is a bad idea. I think that should be right up there with all the ideas. Don't we also think that the Ryder Cup is going to play a huge. huge role in how these guys are all going to accept each other.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Like if if the European team has these guys play with Rory Macroy, that would mean that he allows that to happen, which would then lead to a path back to the PGA tour. So like we're going to find out very soon on if that's going to happen, aren't we? Yeah, but the PGA tour, the PGA of America are different organizations. But it does come down in relationships, right? We're talking about the relationships. So that's all we're talking about. But I don't know that Rory has the, it's, you know, I don't know that that's his call, right?
Starting point is 01:08:59 It's the, it's the, it's done. They'd have to run up. them. They went to have to run by him. But I don't think he's got to, even if he's like, no, absolutely not. I think that like the DP World Tour, aka the former European Tour, like, would potentially be in a position where they're like, sorry, this is like what we're doing or this is legally what we have to do because they're kind of losing that right now, aren't they?
Starting point is 01:09:19 Like, these guys have to, these guys are allowed to play in the DP World Tour events currently because the way the lawsuit's going, they're in a weird spot with that because they stripped Henrik Stinson of his captaincy of the European Rider Cup team. And then they're going to allow people to play on the Rider Cup team that did the same thing he did. But he's just not allowed to be captain. That'd be crazy. How about this? How about this?
Starting point is 01:09:40 How about this for a solution? You let the guys come back, but they have to donate 60% of what they were paid by live to the, like a PJ tour charities. Now we're talking. I think people would do that. They have to pay a penalty of six. 60%, which would essentially, yeah, would be like the money that they actually got because after taxes and everything. So they have to basically donate all the money that they got back to
Starting point is 01:10:05 PJ Torr, Terry. I don't think Bryson, I think he would just, I got my money. I'll do my YouTube thing and long drive. Like I think I'm not sure DJ would come back too. And, you know, some of these guys were toward the tail end. And if you could have told them, hey, we'll give you 70 million, you're done. They would take it. So I think those guys like Louis Eustazen, like, you know, Ian Polter. I don't think those guys would even try to come back. I think they're riding off into the sunset. But those guys are nobody's. The tour doesn't want them back.
Starting point is 01:10:27 They're nobody's. They're still nobody's. Nobody cares. So we were really talking about just like DJ, Brooks, Joaquin, Ebancer, Taylor Gooch. If honestly, if Louis Oostohusen and fucking Ian Poulter
Starting point is 01:10:42 are like, we want to come back. And tour's like, we don't care. We in no way care. I think there's like maybe four or five names that would potentially like move the needle enough that the tour could leverage it into positives,
Starting point is 01:10:53 having them back in there, which is Brooks, DJ, Cam Smith, Phil, even, Phil's still a big name. Like getting them back in there, they would care about. But literally, you know, 40 something names out of the 48-man field. I saw the one guy at Kim shot 19 over, who finished 48, but I think that the tour would be like, we don't care about you.
Starting point is 01:11:15 I think what it comes down to, like, Rick, you make a good point about those guys, then you allow them to come back and they've already got all this money. But if you allow these guys to come back, we're talking about eyeball guys. So if Brooks comes back, a Bryson, a Phil, like you get more eyeballs and therefore more people are watching and the tour makes more money because there's more fans and all that. So I think at the end of the day, hard feelings aside, if you let these guys come back in and it grows the product, I think overall that's a good thing for everybody. Is Liv not doing well globally?
Starting point is 01:11:46 Is this not like, because you see all this WBC World Baseball Classic conversation going on. Kevin Clancy's been getting canceled every single day on Twitter. for saying that he thinks it's the dumbest, the dumbest tournament of all time. Obviously, when Diaz goes down, he's a little mean, he's a little mean girl's pod,
Starting point is 01:12:02 you know, approach to some things. I appreciate him just, he just, he wakes up every day and still goes. Going after Marcus Strom in, the whole thing. That's just exhausting.
Starting point is 01:12:11 His, his, I do, he definitely believes in his, like the reason why he's saying it. Like, yeah, that if you,
Starting point is 01:12:17 if you gave these guys a decision pre-tournament, that like, you're going to get hurt during this. Are you going to play in it? They would all say no. And if you, and if you took their money away, way if they did get hurt, they would never play it. They would just play with their MLB team.
Starting point is 01:12:27 So I get that. And I actually agree with him on that. But when all these people, Jared Krabis and all these guys were throwing all these numbers at them, that like the WBC, yes, to us in America, I mean, the American team has been amazing. So the games have been awesome. But like when you saw the numbers in China and fucking Dominican Republic and Japan, it was like 40 million people or something like that, we're watching these games around the world. And in America, we were having discussions on if it mattered or not. Like we were acting like it didn't, that's not the real thing. So like is live seeing any of that around the country, I mean, around the world where all these guys that we're saying like they're not needle movers like maybe not to us like an Abraham answer to me. I really don't care. But is he
Starting point is 01:13:07 massive right now? Are people watching Abraham answer like every single time he steps up to a tea? I remember I heard something or reds. I don't know where I heard this. But it was like when the live events are in America, the ticket sales are nothing because you can see these guys in America at a PJ tour event, like the names are bigger. But when you go to somewhere like Australia, where there is no PJ tour event, there's the live ticket sales are much higher because you get to see these big name golfers coming to your country where none of them ever come here. And I think that's like, that's the one hole in the PJ tours plan against Liv is that
Starting point is 01:13:41 there's not a ton of international events. So when any golf tour goes there that has any sort of notoriety, any big names, it's going to sell out because they never see them. And Liv is exploiting those locations. I think they're going to get some pop when they go to Australia. I think they are. I think they're sold out already. Are we missing that when we discuss them falling and like no juice?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Are they gaining juice where I don't even, I'm not even walking in those stores. I don't know the juice that's being produced in there. I'm not, I'm not aware of it. I don't know all this stuff. I'm only seeing this stuff on Twitter desk. No, that juice didn't come across my desk. I don't know the pop that's happening in Australia right now. I don't know that.
Starting point is 01:14:17 I think so. So like, is there a little, like, is that their fault for not marketing? Like we're actually fucking murdering this thing across the globe. Like we're selling tickets everywhere we go. That's why I think it might not be is because they're not, they're not saying it. You know what I feel like if they had these victories, they would make that very well known. But you're right. I just, I just Googled like international TV ratings for live.
Starting point is 01:14:36 I don't see anything. All the conversations are U.S. based. But U.S. is, you know, we talk about golf around the world, golf around the world, golf around the world, golf around the world. The U.S. is by far the biggest golf audience. Baseball has a huge global audience, which helps those numbers. Huge. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Yeah. That's a great point. I think they'll get juice, right? I think that they'll get sold out crowds in Australia that'll be pumped. I think the Aussie team will get a lot of love and like they're going to promote that. But at the end of the day, it's a business. Business comes down to dollars and cents. It comes down to costs versus revenue.
Starting point is 01:15:07 And I think that like even if they get a little bit of juice for a few weeks when they're on Australia, I don't know that it's coming even close to closing the delta between the amount of money that they've dished out and the amount of money that they've got coming in. So I don't, I don't know. I don't think, like, I think that they wish they probably were getting plenty more pop in the U.S. right now and that they could carry that momentum into their international stops. And they just, they don't seem to be to the point where I, I don't really see it anywhere except for the same bots or handful of people that I think are just shills for live golf hoping to get a payout like a David Farity got or something in the media world. But other than that, there's no, I don't see there being much pop. Yeah. really does come down.
Starting point is 01:15:49 In the WBC comparison, they're huge international, but they also sold out every single night of like quarterfinal play in Arizona. I mean, like, you know, 60,000 people are showing up to these games in America to go watch these teams. So yeah, they are, they're taking that and they're also playing in Japan. They're playing in Cuba, wherever else they're playing. That's where you get the pop. That's why it's successful. It is interesting what you said initially, though, Riggs, about the star power because if those first two events were won by Dustin and Cam Smith, it would be a completely different narrative. that's why they paid all these guys all these money they're just not playing well like the the guys that they that they paid 200 million dollars for phil mickleson fred couple said if you're going to pay phil micelson 200 million dollars at age 52 to shoot 74 and 75 75 god bless you and that's basically what they've done and that guy see one kim you were talking about he's finished dead last in both events 82 77 78 75 79 he's made 200 40 grand 200 40 grand because you got 120 grand for last and his team finished third so
Starting point is 01:16:47 they got like another 200 grand. Yeah, I think he gets, I think he gets, I mean, mooted after this year. Is he on the chopping block over there? I mean, no pun intended,
Starting point is 01:16:54 but like they, are they just gonna, right? I mean, they're like, you're like embarrassing the kingdom and like, you gotta be, it's over for him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:02 I don't know. Service to the nation. A flaw in the, the live plan is like, you give somebody $150 million dollars and then expect them to continue to try to strive for greatness. Like, I know guys in the PJ Tour
Starting point is 01:17:14 make a ton of money, but if you give a guy, $100 million dollars, like you can't expect the exact same level of output when the events don't really mean anything and legacy is kind of out the window like Phil and DJ and Brooks like I don't know what their work ethic has been like but it can't when you're sleeping in silk sheets as they say it's harder to get up and be like I want to be the best I can be when the bank account is huge yep totally so that brings us to the master's tournament will be fascinating to see how these guys perform how
Starting point is 01:17:45 their, what their reception is like, is Sergio going to show up in like fireballs, gear, head to toe? You know, I need to see how that's going to pan out. Played at Greyhawk Golf Club boys and girls on Saturday with some buddies. And they have the new Trullies with real vodka on the cart. It come as a high recommendation to the beverage cart people. They happen to be women up there. So the cart girls up at Greyhawk. And I'm telling you, These vodka's, these truly vodkas that are new, we taste them for the first time at the Barso's Classic Championship last fall. These puppies are just making waves around town because of how good they are, how, and we always like and love Trulay and the different flavors and how many different options that they had and the fact that all 12 ounce cans have under 110 calories, which means plenty of refreshing flavor that will not weigh you down, low sugar. Every truly vodka, vodka, seltzer contains only two grams of sugar.
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Starting point is 01:19:10 You know all your buddies are going to like it. You bring that to the golf course. It's a home run. They've absolutely knocked it out of the park. truly is here to stay. Plus, they've been supporting the Barstow Classic. This is their fifth year. Fifth year as the sponsor of the Barstool Classic when that puppy was nothing. We had never done a single event ever, never, not once. They said, yep, we want to be in on that. We want to be the title sponsor on that. We want to provide Trulies to hundreds, if not
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Starting point is 01:20:10 But the small taste we were able to get drove a lot of headlines. So having this now at the Masters where you got to think that the green jackets are going to try to shut all of that down as much as humanly possible, even going into this thing. So that just adds another element to the master's. And we've been speaking about it for about seven, eight months now, about how the majors will be the time when we finally get all this, all of the drama and the conversation and then positive and negative about live comes together with the PGA tour, the players in the biggest arenas that we possibly have in this sport. And we're on the, we're on the verge of that. a couple weeks away from having that occur. And then we're going to get every month, we got PGA,
Starting point is 01:20:54 US Open, British Open, bang, bang, bang, where we're going to get all of this. So it's going to be pretty condensed into like four months of the entire year where we get some of this. And we'll probably learn a lot about, you know, are there rumors about people trying to get back? Has anybody tried to really come back? You know, does anybody want to?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Is the tour going to even consider it? So yeah, it'll be another very cool storyline going into the majors that we get to have, that we've never had before. I think something happens at the Masters. I think something at the dinner. What do you mean something happens? Just like... Fist fight.
Starting point is 01:21:28 I don't know what it is and I don't know what to agree, but like Riggs is saying, the little bit we've had where Patrick Green Rory, I mean, it's golf, so it's not exactly a bloodbath, but guys throwing a tea at someone's feet. The Open Championship was before all the lawsuits, right? Yeah, yes. I believe so. I think that's right. Yeah, those came around the Tour Championship, which was a month or a month and a half later.
Starting point is 01:21:49 Right. this is the first time we've had the big groups together. Again, I don't know what it's going to be, but somebody's going to say something. We're talking, these are big egos. These are big money. A lot of competitive people. Like, there's no way you can get all those guys into a condensed area and not have something. Maybe I have the older guys whose filters aren't there anymore, like a Fred couples who will say whatever they want.
Starting point is 01:22:09 And I just say whatever. And Sergio is, he's hot under the collar. He'll fucking get, he'll get mad about something like maybe some shoving, maybe some punches. No. Come on, dude. dude, that's not happening at the Masters, dude. They're still human beings. I mean, all this stuff is...
Starting point is 01:22:24 That actually makes me think that something is going to happen. They are human beings. It's the Masters, man. There's no way they're going to... Give me a shove. They're not going to just... Mark me down for a shove. I got a shove.
Starting point is 01:22:33 I'm marked out for nothing happens. They're going to take the photo. They're going to do the whole thing. Everyone's going to be smiling. Tiger's going to be smile. He's going to be sweaty. The whole deal is going to be the same as it's ever been. You're not getting anyone saying anything.
Starting point is 01:22:45 And if they did, it's not getting out. It's the fucking masters, man. They got green jackets. walking around. You can't even fucking walk. You can't, you can't knock a piece of like a pine cone on the, on the wrong side of the grass without someone walking over and taking you out of the, out of the facility. So there's no way. Mark me down.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I want it on record. I'll mark me down for a shove. Dude, you can't even, you can't even look at someone the wrong way at that place. There's no way. They definitely got a, they got a message being like, this is Augusta National. I think if it weren't treated with respect, Fred Ridley being there, I think there's a, a chance we would have a photo that would have all the live guys in the champions photo, like together when people split like boys and girls when they're in middle school.
Starting point is 01:23:27 I think we would have gotten a photo like that potentially, but I think Frederick is going to be very much. I think Adam Scott actually gave us some really good insight into that where he's like, I'm pretty sure that the chairman is going to set the record straight at the beginning of the night being like, look, we're here. None of the other stuff is here. This night is about us and about Scotty Schaeffler and that's it. and I think he's going to put a closed to any of that,
Starting point is 01:23:52 which is a damn shame. But I'm, I'm rooting for a shove. I would like to see a shove, some sort of physical obligation, anything, but, but it's,
Starting point is 01:24:01 that's a tough place to have it happen. Somebody gets a cup, somebody gets a couple whiskeys in them. Fred couple says something. To be a golf, Phil says something. These guys aren't criminals. They're not fucking like,
Starting point is 01:24:13 they're not, they're not like, they're not like, you're acting like guys, like, you're acting like, competitive guys don't get a little hot under the collar and say shit to each other. They do, but like they're able to fucking, like, have respect for the thing.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Like, there's just no way. It's an unprecedented year. It's been an unprecedented 24 months. I'm sure guys have hated other winners before and someone said something about someone else's family member or whatever. They've had bad shit. Fred just is like, uh, you're going to be nervous to play in front of fans for the first time this week.
Starting point is 01:24:44 See, now we're talking. Freddie will definitely test the waters. Freddie, Freddie will definitely throw some out there, throw some bait out there. And like, Tiger's the head of this thing. Like he,
Starting point is 01:24:56 Tiger, you know, he's above all, you know, he's just like, I'm the greatest ever. But he's also been the guy, him and Rory,
Starting point is 01:25:02 being like, we are fighting tooth and nail against this thing. So it's not like he is an unbiased observer. I think if a comment's made, it'll be with a chuckle. And I think the guy that they're making the comment to, whether it's Phil or Sergio or whatever,
Starting point is 01:25:15 we'll have to just take it on the chin and laugh. and be like, nice to be around you boys again. And then just go back to their dinner. No one's going to be like, would you say, step up, step up. I guess it's going to be an agreed upon situation where it's like, if something said, just let it go. From my vantage point, what I don't want as like,
Starting point is 01:25:35 as a fan and like who's watched all this unfold, I don't want like it just a bunch of rich guys in a room being like, yeah, but we're all rich. So for sure. And that's what the good, that's what the safe money is on. But I also think they're all competitive and there's lawsuits flying around and feelings have been hurt and something might happen. Imagine it's like rich guys eating dinner at Augusta Nashville. Imagine we're acting like this is that Texas roadhouse.
Starting point is 01:26:00 Come on, dude. It boils into like, like decades of pent up. Gary player like stabs Jack Nicholas over. Not even related to it. Yeah. It's crazy. Like Sergio and Freddie. And then all of sudden like one of those two is like, this is.
Starting point is 01:26:17 my chance. I mean, I mean, Will Smith did smack somebody at the fucking Oscars. We go, dude. Like, that was, that was unprecedented.
Starting point is 01:26:29 You know what I mean? The world's a weird place right now. But that's also like, that's the Oscars. This is Augustin National. It's not happening there. Greg Norman couldn't win one green jacket. Get him in that room.
Starting point is 01:26:38 Come on. Get him in there. It's not going to happen, dude. It's not going to fucking happen. I would, listen, I would love to see reports from like nuclear golf being like,
Starting point is 01:26:46 we're here in, crazy shit. They've locked the doors at Augusta National and that no one's going out. There's a dead body being carried out. It's just like, holy shit. Who's done it? This, if it's going to happen, this is the year though, because if, you know, three years ago, if we had said, do you think there will ever be a rogue Saudi back
Starting point is 01:27:04 golf league that Phil Mickelson joins and then completely disrupts the entire golf landscape? You'd have been like, no, that's insane. It's been an unprecedented time for the game of golf. So I think, you know, if somebody's going to get punched, somebody's going to get shoved. It's 20, 23 at the, at the champion's dinner.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Yeah, I, I need, like, one of the live guys, like a Phil or a Sergio to go in there, like Jackson, a home style with his phone, like arrives at the dinner. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:27:31 what's up, poor boys? And like just gets the, gets the pot stirred right away. And like, we need something. We need something from that dinner. But I think it's most likely
Starting point is 01:27:40 we get to come out. There'll be a photo. They'll act like they all had a lovely cordial time. But I, I, It won't take much. It takes one little Fred coupled's jab, and I think he might get the guys going. Something about how much money he has, a new watch.
Starting point is 01:27:56 The thing is the stakes are super high. It's not like this is over nothing. And Phil has been getting all of this credit now being like, you changed the PJ tour. Thank you. That's been the murmurs of sentiment coming from whoever on the PJ tour. Like those are big decisions and big moments for the sport. Like this isn't about one guy getting a million bucks over another guy. This is about changing everything.
Starting point is 01:28:19 What did Freddie call Phil? Like recently? A crazy nutbag. That sounds like a shove way to happen to me. Right. These guys are all sit at a table together. Nobody's going to have any like, that's weird, man.
Starting point is 01:28:32 That's just weird. Like Sergio's going to be a few seats down from Freddie and they're just going back and forth in the media for the last month about chirping each other. And they're just going to sit there and be like, oh, pass the bread please. They're, you know, I think Tiger is irate. at Phil Mickelson. And he would never say it out loud because Tiger knows that he could have done this so long ago. He could have gotten so much money and cashed in.
Starting point is 01:28:53 But Tiger believes, oh, I did what I thought was good for the game of golf. And he's going to view Phil Mickelson as a as a total scab who got late in his career and realized he couldn't compete and went and got a huge payday. And I think Tiger has zero respect for that guy. And I think he won't even look in his direction. I agree with that. I think Tiger, I mean, he made it clear in the Genesis. He's like, oh, yeah, I expect the dinner to be pretty awkward. Like he said that.
Starting point is 01:29:15 He's like, no, I'm not. I don't think Tiger's going to go in and be cordial. I think he's going to be. He might go in there looking. Yep. He might go in there with his cold like Stephen Ames look being like, I'm not here for your guys bullshit. Fuck you guys.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Imagine that night there's reports that an ambulance has made its way to Augusta National. They're like somebody was in need of medical attention. We don't know if they had to go to the hospital, but there is an ambulance parked outside. It could be, could be a player had an episode or it could be someone got punched in the face. It could be Gary Player finally took his butter knife to Jack Nicholas's like yellow vest stomach and he just couldn't take it anymore. If they want to really blow this thing up, just have an ambulance drive by, drive near becomes pro wrestling. And now this, it's the most talked about thing in sports for the next 40 hours. We get like one of those Blair Witt project style videos of an ambulance making like a hard right down Magnolia Lane from your like, wow.
Starting point is 01:30:11 Do you think these guys ever thought about not showing up like anyone like just like pro. testing the dinner from either side you're saying from either side yeah it would be surgery they're all going to go makes me think that they know it's got to be cordial like if you really had that big of a problem with it wouldn't you just not show up or they're as curious as we are like if i yeah we're on either side you're not allowed to like show up and fight the guy you should have been like you should have been like i just wouldn't have come like if i really don't want to be with you at dinner i just like i shouldn't have come i genuinely think there's signing up for it i think there's genuine curiosity on
Starting point is 01:30:46 what it's going to be like. Then you have to keep your mouth shut, I think, if you show up. You guys disagree. No. No. You're signing like an unwritten rule of like if I, if I'm agreeing to come to dinner with you,
Starting point is 01:30:57 that's what I'm doing. Like you know, you can also say like they, it's an unwritten rule like if you leave a golf league, you shouldn't then sue the one that you just left. That's an unwritten rule. That should be an unwritten rule. Frankie,
Starting point is 01:31:08 think about like Thanksgiving with your family. Like people go into that and they're ready for war when they sit down to that day. I think that's something that are crazy for even showing up. in the first place. Like you knew it was going to happen. People are crazy they're going to show up to this dinner. I think people are crazy they're going to show up to this dinner. I'm surprised at you as a guy who likes Convertational likes to argue that you would say like,
Starting point is 01:31:27 no, no, no, I'm just not going to show up to this dinner. I'm just trying to picture myself at that table. It's like no way would I be the one that like ruins the reputation of Augusta National. And I don't think any of these guys who have won the masters and know what it takes and like know all the things that go behind the scenes at Augustin National will ever in a million years ruin that reputation. Here's what I know, though. If I, if I, I would pay $5,000 to live stream that dinner.
Starting point is 01:31:50 And if I had an invite already because I won the tournament, I'm definitely showing up. So there's only six guys who, who, we're only talking about six guys. So it's Phil, it's Sergio, it's Patrick Reed, Bubba Watson, Charles Schwartzel. And there's one more that I don't remember. DJ. DJ. Okay. So those are the six guys.
Starting point is 01:32:07 So who's it going to be? It would only be Sergio, right? There's no way. No, no, no. You think Patrick Reed? I think Patrick Reed, Phil. I think Patrick Reed, Phil, Sergio, are you fucking short. Schwarzel's not going to say a word.
Starting point is 01:32:20 I think DJ is not going to say a word. But like those three of those guys, I think might come in there ready for any, like, you know, like literally Tiger might be like, oh, welcome. They're like, what'd you say? What'd you say, Tiger? Like, what did you, do you hear that? And like I think they might be ready, dude. I think they, I think like Trent said, they might be just as curious as anybody. Like, I can't wait to get to this dinner and see.
Starting point is 01:32:41 I'm going to have myself a nice class of red wine. I'm going to just see what the fuck happens at this thing. We need Trevor Imelman to like FaceTime us after or from the fucking table. Like somehow give us an update. Like he should like we should have one of our guys. It can even be Adam Scott now. Adam Scott's our guy. It should we should have them send us a text like like red means it's going like poorly and like yellow means like everyone's cautious and like control.
Starting point is 01:33:06 Just send us like an emoji just like one little logo. And that's going to let us know what's going. Imagine you get that red dot from fucking Trevor. Like when he says as a group text, it's just a red fucking emoji. You're like, what's going on in there, dude? It's nuclear code. It's just could be any combination of things is my thing. It's not one thing.
Starting point is 01:33:25 It's anything. Like, somebody could take a shot at Tiger, just like completely inappropriate, talking about like, you know, you're not perfect. And then it's another guy from the non-lives side that's like, well, now I'm going to stick up for my guy. I got to stick up for Tiger. I imagine. Sergio shows up to the par three contest with like two black eyes and everyone's like, yeah, No, not the dinner went great.
Starting point is 01:33:46 That I would respect the fire. Like bandages. What happens in the room? Fight clubs. It's like that, yeah, it is. It's like, it's like that scene in semi-pro when they go to commercial and everybody just starts brawling. And then when the cameras come back on, it's like, no, everything was totally fun. We're back here.
Starting point is 01:34:02 Yeah. It is going to be hard. Think about how much small talk happens at a dinner table. It's going to be hard to talk to those six guys about anything other than. But that's why I said in the beginning. I think those guys are going in. knowing what they sign up for. They're going to have to just take it.
Starting point is 01:34:16 Whatever the comment may be, they're going to ask about it, whatever. You're just going to have to smile and be like, I know, whatever. Do you think that Patrick Reed abides by decorum? That's not a guy who is, has, he doesn't, he doesn't know what the word decorum is. Look at his home. Look at the pictures of his home. Who, Patrick Reed? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:33 Have you not seen these? No. Oh, my goodness. Okay, I'm just describe them. Just the most, just the most ridiculously decorated house that you've, that you could possibly ever imagine. I can't imagine what the interior design of that brain looks like. That's what I'm saying. I mean, you think he designs the home? But either way, it's got to be pretty wild. I think Phil Michaelson has made one major wrong decision in his life and it's caused a, uh, a downfall of, of major decisions.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Wait, which one? There's so many. How? What's the law? There's a lot. I mean, I would say the first, I'd say the first, like, the main one, which would be like his significant other has then caused a, uh, torrential downfall of, messes and ruining his brain and telling him that he deserves this and you should go fight them and you should get any advantage. I mean, she's, I mean, come on guys.
Starting point is 01:35:23 There's one underlying issue. He was rumored to be a violent cheater well before he even met her. So then I would also argue that is like moving sand for behind his ball. Like that's not really related to her. How long have they been together? How long have they been together? Not since college. But I would also argue the type of person is like, yep, that's, that's my ride or die is like,
Starting point is 01:35:42 that's a type of person who was going to end up with that. I'm just saying there's a darkness in the background. That's definitely a huge fact. If anybody, if anybody, we need to start gassing up Justine being like, what's Patrick going to do with this dinner? I think we could do that easily.
Starting point is 01:35:56 I'm like, we should DM use golf facts and just be like, you guys got a plan for this dinner? Like what's up? Or just like, yeah, make her feel like he's like a pussy for showing up. They go.
Starting point is 01:36:06 He's just like crawling back to like a real, like all the PGAT tour guys going to dinner with them. I think. Phil Mickelson will come prepared to dinner with, I think, a joke or something that he believes will handle the situation and the tension. I think he won't. There's no way Phil shows up and is like unprepared and surprised conversationally about anything that occurs. I think he's going to go in being like, I'm witty, I'm Phil. I've held court at this table before, which we've heard a lot of stories about with him being the smartest guy in the room and talking about all the knowledge he has a different.
Starting point is 01:36:41 plants and all kinds of shit. There's no way that guy shows up to this dinner and isn't prepared with some sort of like break the ice joke or story or something. That house sucks. I sent you guys pictures of the house. It's like a sex dungeon. It's crazy. Oh my God, dude.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Whoa. Oh, wow. That second one looks like the inside of a dollhouse. The dog house. The real shame. And I, you know, I really, really, really hope that Frankie is wrong. In this instance, the house is outrageous. That little rocking chair is what nightmares are made out of.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Oh, dude, that third one, that last one looks like where the Lannister's like fucked up the Starks and the red wedding. I think Patrick Reed's hilarious. I think everything about him, his story line. I think he's a fucking cartoon character. That guy, this is more team read than it is. I've ever seen about it. They are such villains. They literally live in a layer.
Starting point is 01:37:44 They live in a layer. There's probably a moat outside with a bridge. There's a hundred percent of a moat. They are the villains on the BGA door. They live in satin, silk, and fucking, they have like moats and high windows and little rocking chairs. And I love them. I think they are hilarious.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Absolutely. That's where we usually end up landing on a guy like him or who are any of these polarizing guys. Bryson made the jump. like, of course that's his house. No way this guy shows up to this dinner. It's just like,
Starting point is 01:38:17 oh, it's been a great year, everyone. I'm really happy to be here. Like, no fucking way. He's going to be chirping back at people. I'm starting to think a shove is a guarantee. It's looking good.
Starting point is 01:38:29 I think we're going to see an intermingled photo with everyone's smiling. We will, but I don't think that's going to tell the whole story. That's not going to tell the whole story. It won't. Last thing I got a. my list before before we throw it to Taylormore is unfortunately VCU basketball let us down the Virginia Commonwealth University Rams were defeated by the Gales on Friday devastating for us
Starting point is 01:38:56 we were trying to get the Ireland bracket buskers we were trying to do the whole deal I was going to send a few bottles of that sweet Irish whiskey to folks but unfortunately they came up short. Trent had a chance no not really Trent was obviously found, you know, our, who I thought was going to be our VCU hero. And it just never came to fruition. David Shriver, great hair, great vibe, air ball to three there at the end. He actually, like, he actually, like, ruined the game at the end. He, he, he fouled a guy on a hard layup for, for an N1.
Starting point is 01:39:30 There was a three point swing. And then on the tail end of that, just airballed a fucking three. It was a six point swing in a game that we were only down, like, four or five. I felt good about when I saw him and I started looking at pictures of him. I was like, this is the type of character that March Madness usually ushers into at least the sweet 16. So I thought he was going to be our our horse, our hoss. But he already got it with that Timmy guy last night with Gonzaga. The Timmy, he's got these.
Starting point is 01:39:59 Drew Timmy. Drew Timmy. He's been there forever. He's like the number one. The mustache, the fucking headband. Just a big sweaty white guy that's just somehow got the touch of a goddess. around the fucking, I don't know how that guy does what he does. He's like the most ugly, the way he does it is so ugly. It's pirouetting on his big toe and just softly swishing from
Starting point is 01:40:20 around the arc. It's crazy. Well, yeah, RIP to the Rams. I, um, I did some, I did some, I did some boy shit, some man shit this weekend where I went out and I got a fucking sound bar for my TV and a subwifor and fucking surround sound system like a crazy, crazy, crazy. For all the tech nerds out there, it was like the Samsung Q900 or whatever, this fucking thing, man. I turned on, I had already seen it, but all quiet on the Western front. And I went to one of the battle scenes. And I'm talking. I've got the subwoofer on the side of the couch, this crazy soundboard on the TV.
Starting point is 01:40:57 And the things on either side of my ears now on the couch, you hear these bullets whizzing by you're, I'm ducking. I was legitimately ducking on my couch being like, what's happened? Tanks rolling over me. the rumbling in the house. Things are fucking shaking on the walls. Legitimately, the photos on the mixed towel are literally shaking. They're constantly out of place now.
Starting point is 01:41:17 They're not even straight. That felt like a real just like man shit. Like that's like, that's all I cared about was the sound quality of my television and watching movies. And it felt really good. And it's a game changer. I've got a sound bar that's a glorified paperweight because when I put up my huge TV, I didn't have the guys plug the soundbar in before.
Starting point is 01:41:37 and so now I just have a soundbar that isn't plugged in it just sits there bro why you just plug it in because I can't get to it on the wall dude it's a huge TV so I can't pull it off what a what a tactical error that was yeah that is it was a big job hooked up everything else and then I was a mistake they left they left and I was like oh I got the sound bar in this subwoofer and then I just never did anything about that was eight months ago I don't you know it sounds all right dude when you got you got to fucking plug that thing can I do that with an apartment with neighbors I feel like that would be disrespectful
Starting point is 01:42:07 Maybe. Like, you got a house. Maybe. I don't think I could use it. It was so loud in my house that I actually went outside and I went to my property line and I just stood there and I listened and you couldn't hear a thing. It was fucking awesome. But I'm like, I couldn't imagine if what they were hearing out there, what I was hearing
Starting point is 01:42:24 inside, if that ever would have been legal. It couldn't have been. I share a wall right here with the neighbor. Yeah, I can't be legal. That's what my TV is up against. That would be, I'd be the worst neighbor ever. I did a lot of Reddit researching. Reddit's the best place to look for things to buy because all these other.
Starting point is 01:42:36 If you type in like top 10 TVs of 2023, you're going to get just fucking fake lists of people that were like paid by these companies to put them one, two and three. You type that same thing into Reddit and you're going to get a real conversation from real people that are having like a discussion links. This is the best place to buy. Getting a sound system, that was the number like, dude, there were a million different threads on what to get, how to set it up, where the music is supposed to be bouncing off your walls. And a lot of people are saying like, how do you deal with it with neighbors in a condo or in a apartment? building. They were saying, like, you have to pick your times. Like at 9 o'clock and now you got to turn the subwoofer off. But like there is no like, you can't be afraid to like live your life from like 6 o'clock
Starting point is 01:43:16 till 9 o'clock if you're watching like a movie or a show. But there's definitely a time limit. You can't have that thing rattling while people are sleeping. I'll just, you know, I'll save that sound bar for when I get a house, I guess. There you go. Five years. That sound bar will be the first thing I hook up. All right. I think we're done here. I had four really good from the galleries that we just did an hour and a half and didn't need any of them. So I'm going to try to save those for Thursday's show from the galleries coming Thursday, hopefully this week. All right, we got the most recent winner of the PGA tour coming up next.
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Starting point is 01:46:05 oh shit no way hoodie on taylor how good is that that's about that Those cradle ones are sweet. Yeah, that merch we did in the shop. So you were there playing and you just picked it up in the shop. Yeah, my fiancé and I went there for the first time I'd never been there. And we went there with a couple of friends to play the cradle and play number two and hang out for a couple of days. So yeah, it was sick. Your team fiance, both Frankie and Eric are weddings that are fast approaching.
Starting point is 01:46:32 When is yours? January, most likely we don't have like bed and stone yet. Still trying to figure out some of the details. But, you know, pretty much. Century Week now. not century week Nope I think we've just started right
Starting point is 01:46:45 I think this is the show Yeah yeah we're on the show I gotta say Pioneers just sent me I know you got the Pioneer's thing on They just sent me their spring collection thing right here I'm right to open this puppy up On the live show because you inspire me
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Starting point is 01:47:08 And they have the nice spring touch there that is a nice spring touch what a catch that's great you have that on i love it um let's talk about this what a day for you it's been 24 hours you just won on the pga tour pretty um you won in a way that's uh always interesting to me because you finish a few groups ahead and then you watch these guys come home what's that whatever it was 45 minutes to an hour what's that like watching these guys try to get in the clubhouse and you posted 10 under yes i mean pretty nerve-wracking honestly just because you don't really know what's going to happen. And honestly, I was just trying to stay loose in case it will playoff right.
Starting point is 01:47:45 So didn't have, like, any monitors or anything around. And so I was getting updates from one of the media officials there just kind of shot by shot. He was getting updates and telling me. And, yeah, I just went to the range just to kind of stay in the boat. And then worked my way over to the putting green. And as those guys kind of came up 18 and, you know, I knew out of him was in trouble there on 18. And then got to expect Jordan to do something cool, right?
Starting point is 01:48:09 especially after missing that on 17, I was fully prepared, you know, to see him drop that bomb on 18 and going to the playoff. But, yeah, it's a, you know, first time really having that happen. So it was a pretty crazy moment. It just happened. It just happened. It just happened and went that way. This person's hitting you with like, all right,
Starting point is 01:48:27 Adam Shank is left-handed with the club flipped over. Yeah, what was that? Exactly. Yeah, literally. Well, I'm like kind of getting loose again. Like, it's a pitching wedge. is he like, Jordan just said a four iron nose, six feet on 17. I'm like, cool, thanks.
Starting point is 01:48:45 You probably want to punch that guy on the face. What a couple weeks for the University of Arkansas. Last week, you know, your old teammate Nico, who apparently is a huge four-play fan, and we discovered that at the players championship. He was like freaking out. He won. You guys take out Kansas and you win. Is Arkansas the new, like, Oklahoma State these days?
Starting point is 01:49:05 Yeah, sneaky. He did it right now. I mean, we got some good players, man. We had some good teams when I was in school. We went to the national championship every year I was there. A bunch of good players. I mean, I was so stoked that dinner Saturday. And I watching us be in Kansas.
Starting point is 01:49:20 I mean, I was a little embarrassed yelling the way I did at the restaurant I was out. I mean, not many times off of one seat. So I was sick. But yeah, no, you got a good program there at Arkansas. Coach Macon and Coach Declays have done such a good job. Just getting us prepared for the next level. I mean, it started with Andrew Van derby and David Lincoln. Ethan Tracy, three guys that were on the tour.
Starting point is 01:49:41 And, you know, Nami and Nico are out there getting a dance. So definitely, definitely exciting times. You get back for a game? Do you go back to a football game every year? I try to. Yeah, it's hard. I went to South Carolina game this year. One of my buddies Matt Neesmith, who also plays on tour.
Starting point is 01:49:56 He also big game Cork fans. So we met him in a big game this year. But, yeah, definitely try to get back for a football game. Big baseball fan of it as well. So love me some hog baseball. got a good program there my dad great program right there so yeah really solid yeah I feel like I
Starting point is 01:50:13 always see them up there uh that's sick we got to get to a a game feel like an Arkansas game would be you guys would love that golf course there too the blessings they hosted nca's there it's sick what a name people I've seen pictures that place looks like augusted right Arkansas is like sneaky really hilly and got great terrain people don't really realize
Starting point is 01:50:32 yeah some elevation change just gorgeous like yeah it's I mean honestly you guys would love it. But you went to, yeah, we could, we can set that up, a little football game and a little golf there in Bando one weekend. That would be pretty fun. I'm in for that. Let's,
Starting point is 01:50:46 let's play your ass in a scramble at the blessings. That sounds like a delightful time. No problem. Yeah, that'd be so fun. I would love that. Is your, is your putter like burning a hole through the back of your car seat right now? Because that thing's been so red hot, that thing.
Starting point is 01:51:03 We were talking about it before you came on, man. 64 for 64 inside a. feet plus on that back nine there were a couple medium length even borderline bombs that you made that were just they were just never going to miss what's going on with that putter right now yeah finally got hot for me i've been uh been waiting for that but on it i mean i've just gotten gradually better since i've turned pro with with the short game and the butter and just been putting in the work day in day out with josh gregory who's who's my coach and um yeah obviously i mean to not miss a pot inside of 7 feet's pretty sick.
Starting point is 01:51:39 I don't think I've done anything really close to that. So that was unbelievable. But yeah, it was awesome to see some pots going down the stretch. I mean, that one on 16 was big. I'm not too much of a motions guy, but gave it a little fist bump there after that one winning because I knew I was pretty close to leave at that point. And then, yeah, clutch two putt there on 18 to seal the deal.
Starting point is 01:52:02 Yeah, I mean, 64 for 64 is so outrageously, like, not real. when we were going through that, we're saying, like, even if you were way above tour average for the week, you would have, like, you would have still lost by a couple strokes. You know what I mean? Like, you think about how close golf is. Let's say you go 62 for 64 or something like that. Like, that's, you're still like losing by one. And that's, that number would be outrageous to people like, oh, he went 62 and 64. You're like fucking put lights out. So, I mean, are you feeling that pressure? Obviously, it's your first win in PGA tour. I want to get ahead of this. I did say on Twitter that it was a boring way to win compared to all these. other storylines. I mean, we had Jordan Speeds. We had Shank hit and lefty, but you got the job done. He was rooting against you is what he's telling you. I'm not rooting. Jordan Speets in the, Jordan Speets in the Knicks. I pull for your, I
Starting point is 01:52:46 pull for your eye. Oh, so it's fine. Listen, Nike, you know, I can't be an all-time backtrack. It's going to be an all-time. This is going the other way real fast. Listen, you know, I'm going to stay. I'm sticking to my guns.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Most exciting win in PJ Tourist. I'm sticking to my guns and saying that I want the Jordan Speed to win that tournament. But, and listen, there's no denying that like winning when you're watching the guys come up 18 is less exciting than the guy drain. If you would have hit his 64th put in a row to like win and like all everyone's there and you get to celebrate on there. Obviously that's a better moment. Like I just don't like that
Starting point is 01:53:19 fact of like watching the guy on the putting green win and like have to celebrate in the clubhouse essentially. That part to me I'm not. Maybe I'm backtracking a little bit. But what I was going through like, are you ever, are you thinking about that like midterm and being like I'm putting the best I've ever done and I'm still like barely like right there like is that ever like overwhelming to you guys on tour where you have to play legitimately perfect sometimes to even sniff a win I think when you're out there is just different like I don't think it's necessarily overwhelming but it's just like at a place you know like Innesburg which is so just tricky I would say in general like it's very very demanding the rough is very penalizing the grains are crispy like I mean you're so locked into what you're doing
Starting point is 01:54:01 I didn't really know. I didn't miss a put inside 5, 17 all week. You know, I just kind of was like one after the other, man. I just had my head down and just me and my caddy were grinding and not. You know, just added them up at the end and I wasn't out. So, yeah, I would say it's more along the lines. Be incredible if you're like lining up your put on 17 and you're like, dude, this is for the 63rd out of 63. I mean, I would be thinking about that.
Starting point is 01:54:25 I heard they tried to give me the other than officers, James Y, on 18. I think they put up the stat like I quite before I putted that six footer. They were praying for Jordan. Yeah, right. I want to I want to ask you a question. I was looking through your stats and I found something that I found very interesting. In 2019 on the corn ferry tour, you were second in driving distance at 330 yards per. Right now you are 70, something in the 70s on the PGA tour at right around 300 yards. So is that misleading? Do you change your strategy or what's going on with that disparity is that that just like doesn't mean anything slightly misleading because on tour they measure
Starting point is 01:55:04 every drive all and on the corn ferry tour they measure like two drives day and so it could have just been like more coincidence of catches of downwind holes versus you know mostly par fives or something of that nature whereas the tour they measure you know every single drive every driver that you hit could be blown 30 in and you hit it 255 in that counts right so I think it's a little bit misleading So what's a better indicator right near the top in driving distance or in the middle of the pack? I would say slightly above average. Yeah, I would say like I'm a 305 carry guy like all level conditions. You know, 178 to 180 ball speed, 120 club speed kind of in there.
Starting point is 01:55:44 That's average these days. 180 used to be like the threshold. It was like if you could get a 20% or a bomber. Well, even five years ago, like when I was just starting out on Cornerfair, if you're 180, you're a top five guy on that tour here. And even out there, I mean, this. It's like barely top 50 maybe. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Talk to me about these bunker shots because you're doing something that a few people were popping up doing more often. I noticed watching your back nine yesterday, which is this closed stance. And we're all taught. It feels like everybody does open stance, open face, and you kind of hit like a slap push cutty across it. It's pretty much what it feels like everybody's been taught. Everybody that's read through like a golf digest magazine or you watch like Ledbetter on
Starting point is 01:56:25 Golf Channel. that's the stance. And here you are, 17, you hit one to like a foot long, tough bunker shot under pressure. You got this closed stance. You got to walk me through that a little bit. Yeah, I went way more neutral as my stance the last couple of years with Josh, you know, who I mentioned earlier. But I think a lot of it's lied to bend it. Like if I'm slightly uphill, I want the right foot back so it helps me swing up the slope a little bit. And then if I'm like, I had a bunker shot on before yesterday, that was pretty downhill. And so the right foot back just gives me some space to get some angle. and like cut across it so I can get some high off the down.
Starting point is 01:56:59 So it's kind of lie dependent, but I think I think you're right. Like the more, you know, average ball fans that go watch PJ tour players hit out of bunkers, especially live, like you're not going to see super open, super cut across. You're going to see way more neutral stances to way more slightly right foot back because that's just kind of the new way of doing it. Yeah, it's like you watch Cam Smith. You watch Patrick Reed, who are my two, and not to bring up guys who aren't on the PJ2 anymore, but those are the two guys that I love watching in the bunker.
Starting point is 01:57:23 And both of those guys have closed stances. Is there something? I guess it's like when greens are really fast, is it really helpful to not have something that's spinning right? Because you can kind of control it. Yeah, that's part of it. Also, too, the conditions of the bucker. Like, you'll see guys get more cutty, the firmer the sand is,
Starting point is 01:57:39 just because you got to have that to get high. But like last week, there was quite a bit of sand. They were a little fluffy. And so you want more rounded, more like draw feel. So I think it just kind of depends on the live and the condition of the sand. but Josh Gregory also has taught Patrick Reed forever and so I think Patrick kind of started a lot of the short game stuff right foot bag for you know most of the American players
Starting point is 01:58:04 let's leave it right there on things that we copy Patrick Reed for I guess that's the end of line yeah yeah that's the end of the line on that so we got the masters coming up a couple weeks you know obviously going to be big time for for you what's your what's your plan do you have you're going to get there early? Are you, you know, what's our, what's our plan of the chat? You're shitting your pants yet or what?
Starting point is 01:58:28 I mean, it's going to guess. Dude, trying to figure it out. Trying to figure out the logistics of it's crazy. Like, it's one thing to like, qualify two months out where you have some fine, but it's another to two weeks and like trying to find housing, all that kind of stuff, which is, which is tough. But no plan is set. Sonia would love to get there early, if possible, maybe, you know, Saturday afternoon before and get on on the course Sunday before, or everybody gets in or maybe do a little day trip this. weekend since I'm not in Austin plant. So we'll see trying to work on a few things right now. But yeah, I'm definitely like to get out there and see that place for the first time.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Literally, you've never been on the property, didn't go with tickets. I'm surprised with Arkansas that you guys didn't get out there with the golf team. I'll turn it down a few times. It's kind of been a thing between me and my pops to where we wanted, you know, our first time to be there when I qualified. And so we finally get that opportunity. And you turned, wow. Yeah, we're pretty, pretty stuck for it. How about that? That's insane. That's fucking insane.
Starting point is 01:59:27 That's great. I love that. I've played it and have that confidence. I know what it is. Right. Like you're, yeah, this generation of golfer that has been able to like play the video games
Starting point is 01:59:38 and obviously watch all the masters every year, but like you know every single shot because you played it virtually. And now you're the first time you're going to spin around that place will be with a chance to win it. It's fucking insane, man. Like we've been to the masters. We know what it looks like. You're playing in the thing.
Starting point is 01:59:52 You haven't even been there yet. We've been to a guy. Maybe you guys can call out of the Bracton. Show me. Yeah, that's insane. Yeah, we'll give you a little. A problem. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:01 Yeah. You know where all the good sandwiches are. Yeah, come out of your head. Chip real quick. Yeah, on that 12th hole, on that 12th hole, on that 12th hole, just over the middle of the tongue of the bunker. Don't, don't throw it outside. Yeah, that's, we've heard that for, what, 20 years that I've been watching the Masters at least. That's so cool.
Starting point is 02:00:18 You got to do it, right? Got to do it on? Are you, like, do you get nervous at all, even thinking about playing the master's? Just excited, honestly. I mean, I'm just fired up. I wish it was tomorrow now that I actually got, you know, the ability to get out there and play. I'm sure there'll be some nerves. I mean, I'm nervous. I'm going to start about. First tee nerves, I think, are real. And I think, you know, a lot of BJ tour players and tell you that and more about how you do handle them, brace of it. But yeah, I'm expected, you know, to be slightly nervous, but also super pumped up to get out there and compete. how does it work with like your actual invitation the reason i ask because you know in like christmas time or whatever we see all the guys that have already qualified my vision of it is like the second that somebody couldn't possibly post 10 under that like a carrier pigeon just arrived in front of your face and gave you an invitation to the masters i assume that's what happened uh i wish i could
Starting point is 02:01:14 report back to you and sell you not but that has not yet so i uh i that's a great question i do not not the protocol. For that, I've not received phone call email by anything. There might be too many Taylor Moors, do they? I say, are you sure, you know, after the Scott Stallings incident, like we got to make sure that gets to the right Taylor Moore? Yeah, I'm sure there are a ton of us out there, but hopefully they didn't go the wrong one.
Starting point is 02:01:40 They are. They're like, where the fuck is this guy we're trying to find him? Where is he? We're in Dallas, is he? He's somewhere in Dallas. Is that your spot, Dallas? that's where you, that's your home base. Yeah, yeah, I grew up in Oklahoma,
Starting point is 02:01:54 the city just north there in Edm, Oklahoma, and after I finished out of Arkansas, I moved down here to Dallas, so I've been here about five years now and join it. You play, you like run with that Dallas crew of like Jordan and Scotty and you play, you play with them or you got in your own circle? Yeah, I don't play as much with those guys.
Starting point is 02:02:14 I see Jordan out at no stage the practice in. He plays a lot with, like, Romo, some of those guys, but I play more with like Zolitoris and Davis Riley, Braden Dornberry, another one of our good bodies. I played as on Corpherry Tour. So, yeah, we got a pretty good group out here, Merido that we run. I got an idea for a golf tournament.
Starting point is 02:02:32 We just need to sponsor for it. But I want to put all of these little hubs of professional golfers against each other. You could do like a Dallas, Dallas versus Vegas, versus Scottsdale versus Jupiter versus Sea Island. That would be kind of dope. Yeah. It would be like a rider up. That would be cool.
Starting point is 02:02:47 you're talking like a team event talking like a team event thing like a team event maybe we'll do 48 players 48 players you pay a bunch of money up front or what how do you do that? Texas they'll be an individual competition versus four races Texas low swimmers
Starting point is 02:03:00 yeah so who would be your squad it would be I guess it'd be you Davis Zalotaurus and speed I guess Scott you got to put Scotty in there I don't know maybe you don't make the cut yeah Ray shoot even though I want on tour
Starting point is 02:03:14 I might not make the guy I think you got to go Scotty Scotty, Biff, Willie Z. I mean, he's a top five machine in every major, it seems like. Yeah. And then maybe now that I've won on tour, I sneak there in the fourth spot, right? Yeah, maybe we have a play in for the fourth spot. I think, I like your chances.
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Starting point is 02:03:50 And he had Fairley Dickinson. He had them to win. FDU. He had them to win and upset the number one. So that was a huge hit. There's been some crazy action that's been going on last night. It was something I never really witnessed in my entire life with Gonzaga. They know, minus four and a half.
Starting point is 02:04:08 And they're up by five or they were up by six at the time. And there's 0.7 seconds left. And they just let the ball roll all the way across half court. And the guy picks it up, chucks a three for, as the coaches are legitimately handshaking. drains it. And that's just, that's, that's a Gonzaga, no cover there. But that's the stuff that that's what makes it. That's the exciting stuff. Like that being up at one o'clock in the morning and jumping on your bed and being like, oh my God, I can't believe we just covered that. We covered that plus four and a half. You're going crazy. It's a really fun experience. Um, obviously you do it responsibly,
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Starting point is 02:06:29 And he hit his approach shot in a practice round. And then he just walked all the way across the fairway. And one of the guys he's playing with was about to pull the trigger. And he just was completely aloof. And if it weren't for like a last second noticing of it, or I think like Lurch actually yelled at him or something. I think, yeah. Lurch was like, stop.
Starting point is 02:06:47 And he stopped. And he looked to their rights. The ball went zooming by his head. And he was like, oh, shit. how how was it over there was pretty pretty sick yeah man dude i'm looking back at photos of that actually because i'm making one of the photos that we took at kraal i took a photo at kraal i think i'm maybe in the first hole of just the vastness of like that property and then you see this little cobblestone house that's just like right next to the first hole i think it was and it's
Starting point is 02:07:15 just the coolest fucking picture i've ever taken i turned it into black and white and i'm putting it downstairs in our dining room it's like that place scotland is like not a real fucking place. Like, it's so preserved in old time, but, like, still works for our generation to go there. I don't know how it's so perfect. It's not boring. Like, you'd think going to like an old where golf first invented would be like, ah, it's like this is fucking stupid. No, it was like, it's like Disney of golf. Everywhere you turn, you can't believe it. Yeah, it looks amazing. I'm, I've never been over there. So definitely excited to get over there and play a Scottish. He's never been anywhere. Did you, did you reject Strip in Scotland as well? Because you wanted your first one
Starting point is 02:07:53 to be in the open show. No, actually, actually he just never been offered, offered that one. I played too much baseball growing up to do all these golf trips. What position did you play? Let me guess.
Starting point is 02:08:03 You were, you look like a second basement. You kind of look like Cody. Bro, you kind of look like Cody Bellinger. Looks like a second baseman to me. Short stop, short stop second base. Very nice.
Starting point is 02:08:13 Yep, yo, dad coach college in baseball for like 20 years. And so that was my child. I was, I did just after school, one of his coaches picked me out for my mom,
Starting point is 02:08:22 take me to the field, hang out all night. someone on you definitely made a glove look real good uh-oh an infielder's glove just like perfectly bent up at the top wide fingers yeah field and grounders the fucking a nice hard sound when it hits the palm of the glove i love i love bp like before games more than people realize so like that's i would love to do like i just love going to games and i got somebody's now playing the league and i'll just go hang out with them before that's like that's my bite they're where you like what kind of pants did you wear were you like loose pants like all the way down to the bottom of the cleat did you
Starting point is 02:08:56 wear like a tapered fit high high socks i was pretty basic just right to the bottom like right to the top of the cleat i didn't show the socks it's very standard i wasn't super flat bill either i was like kind of like this i love all the aesthetic that goes into baseball dude robbie canoe changed my life when i was i was just like little skinny second baseman white boy but like i tried to dress and play like robinson Canoe with this crazy flow. Bad ringer. Just basically like barely trying to get the ball to first base. If I like just a flick of the wrist, like as as minimal effort as you could possibly put
Starting point is 02:09:32 in, I used to love that shit. Effortless. Kano was an effortless player. Yeah. The smoothest that's ever. Honestly, people talk about Griffey and I'm not like, Griffey's swing and the way that he played the game for sure. There's never been a smoother infielder than Robinson Canoe.
Starting point is 02:09:45 Bobby Bay is pretty damn smooth. Ah, no. Bobby is smooth with a glove. But Robbie's so smooth with the bat. Like you would hit 450 vote bomb. Dude, Flick of the wrist And he would be blowing
Starting point is 02:09:56 Me and my buddies used to die He'd be blowing a bubble Like rounding third base And you'd be like Put some effort into it He'd be blowing a bubble gum bubble Just like like not a beat of sweat Would be coming down
Starting point is 02:10:07 And he never ever had any dirt on him So good dude I love that That was so sick So sick When'd you have to make the decision To go one or the other? I picked after my freshman year high school
Starting point is 02:10:18 So Went most of ninth grade year playing both. Yeah, and it picked pretty much after the end and just went full in on golf. And yeah, I was doing a bunch of camps still, you know, baseball, like the summer leading up for freshman year going to different colleges and prep stuff. And then, yeah, just, I like the aspect of golf where, like, I won or lost depending on what I did, not necessarily umpires or teammates.
Starting point is 02:10:44 I kind of, like, I'd been around that for so long and played so many games. I didn't know anything like him over it. So I was just like, I want a winner who is based off like how I play and how I do it. You know, referee tell me or umpire, tell me what, what was going on? When you were on the, you spent five years on the cornfairy tour, is that right? That's right. Was there ever a point during year five where you're like, maybe I shouldn't have baseball? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:11:09 No, but like, that's a long time to spend on the cornfairy tour and, you know, your dreams could die out there. Yeah. I mean, I had two pretty good seasons starting out. So I was like pretty close to get my card right out of the gate. I finished 37th, my rookie season, and then I finished 30th my second year. And like that's a, you know, a shot or two basically out there. And so it got off to a decent start. And then I had two like really big things out of my control in 19 and 20 where I was basically sitting out for four months.
Starting point is 02:11:39 I had a collapse lung in 19 where I had to have surgery and miss, you know, four months of our season. And it came back on a medical and played the rest of that year. And then right when I got pretty healthy, we had COVID and I missed another four months. So I was like two things completely out of my control that kind of prolonged. You know, I feel like that time that I was on the courtroom tree. But I mean, looking back, it's just a part of my story and a part of my journey. And it happened and, you know, just kind of put my head down and got back to work and ended up getting my card after that like two and one season on the cornerberry. Tell me about this collapse long and how you found out, how you,
Starting point is 02:12:18 handled it because it's a pretty wild story. Yeah, we had a month off in 19 on the corn ferry. I went out to Scottsdale to practice. Get some good weather because it's kind of hit or miss here in Texans in March. So yeah, went out there, spent a week, practice, hung out with some buddies. And I thought I had food poisoning, like, our last night there. Just, you know, going through it basically all night at my buddy's house and felt terrible that it tore of his guest bathroom.
Starting point is 02:12:44 And then I was, I moved my flight back supposed to fly at LinkedIn that morning. moved my flight back to like four in the afternoon just to kind of get myself some time and still didn't feel right and I really just didn't want to throw up on the plane so I was like I'm not to run down and it's like a yard on a street I was out of light and I was like left to the airport just to go to my flight or right so you know go to the yard and get some nausea medicine so I don't throw up over you know everybody on the on the plane and ended up getting there they ran some tats they felt like something was off maybe like a bendicitis um ended up doing a CT scan and they come back in and they're like you have parents see you? I'm like, no, but that's not you're saying a good first question. Nope.
Starting point is 02:13:23 And then they're like, yeah, you're going to be here for a couple days. You're right. Well, 50% collapsed. I was like, excuse me. Wow. Like, I didn't really have symptoms of shortness of breath or, you know, pain in my side. That would make you throw up. At first, we thought I, like, threw up so violently that it caused my lung to collapse, right?
Starting point is 02:13:42 Because I legit just had my food poisoning. Yeah. I was, yeah, I was so critiqued from the eight hours I spent dealing with. with that, like, I thought that was maybe it. Spend a couple of days in the hospital there in Scottsdale, couldn't get on a plane. They, like, put this tube in the side of your chest, like, it plate your lung back up. Like, it's kind of a sick deal. And then I had to drive back to Dallas from Scottsdale, and they're like, get a
Starting point is 02:14:06 follow-up appointment. You should be okay. And, like, see a pulmonologist there, gave me all the protocol. So get a fault appointment a week later. It had collapsed again. And so ultimately, I'd go, like, literally. Kevin Dordy, you guys, like, it's five of what he was explaining on the cornedberry tour.
Starting point is 02:14:23 He, like, drives me a hospital drops me off. Like, my parents strived out for both of the home, and it's like, I'm in there for a week, you know, having surgery to permanently fix it so I can get back on my feet, plan, you know, three or four months later. My chest hurt, just listening. What caused it?
Starting point is 02:14:39 Yeah, did they ever find out why it was doing that? A hole in it, like a balloon? Diagnosed as a spontaneous pneumothorax, which is just like it sounds, like it just kind of, it happens. Spontaneous is the word they use? Spontaneous. That's illegal.
Starting point is 02:14:54 Right? They said it's, if you actually, if you look it up, it's like, I wouldn't say common, but if it does happen, it happens normally
Starting point is 02:15:02 it males like 18 and 35, like low body fat, like cone shape long the set of box, like, we're good. All right here. All right.
Starting point is 02:15:11 That's good. I'm good with it. I'm good with spontaneous now. There's nothing spontaneous about this right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:17 I'm just kidding. I liked it the first time that they were just like, we'll just blow it back up. Like it's a tire. Like just pump it back up. Yeah, literally. That's when it was. Like, we're going to watch you for two days. Like, we'll make sure it like, they kept calling it sticking. Like, we'll make sure you're a lung and it sticks to the side of your lung and when it dodds from like a period of time you're good. Yeah, I got to stop talking about this. That's all you got. That's all you got. Dr. Scott is starting to hurt. Come on. A couple days from now, Frankie's going to text us be like, I got a clap stung. I know that I do. So I got to go to hospital. Yeah. George Costanza. Are you, uh, are you now.
Starting point is 02:15:48 Now in a situation where you need to be conscious of it? No, everything's good. So I had fault of appointments for about a year after and told me to live my life as normal. And, you know, I had any issue, basically. Show up if I didn't even. But no, everything's been good. I've been clear to fly. I mean, I flew from Vegas to Japan last year for the zones now.
Starting point is 02:16:07 I mean, that's kind of the big concerns is air travel or like, you know, underwater, like deep scuba diving stuff, which I really had no interest in before because I'm not a big ocean guy. You're like, damn it. I was just, I was going to become a huge. I bought all this gear. I bought all these flippers. What are I going to do with that? Wow, man, that's scary.
Starting point is 02:16:30 That's scary. And then you, you four years later, you return. Here you are. You get a PGA tour victory. You take out Jordan Speeth and Shank. And now you're going to be at the Masters. What a story? Yeah, it's cool, man.
Starting point is 02:16:42 I'm super, super excited for sure. I love it. Well, I mean, you know, congrats. Obviously, that's a scary store. We're all going to go get tested. Frank is definitely going to claim next time that we're playing golf. And he feels a little under the worst. I think my lung is collapsing.
Starting point is 02:16:56 I think my long is collapsing. I can't believe I'm going to finish this round of golf. I have a collapse. We're going to try to get you. You guys come into Augusto? Yeah. Yep. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Yes, sir. I will be there all week. Going to hit a celebrity contest? Who wants it? Wow. That would be pretty tough. Any one of us. Give it to any one of us.
Starting point is 02:17:17 I think we'll give it. great. I think all of us. Everybody on the Zoom right now would get banned. I think I would get banned, but you guys are going without a credential. You guys can do whatever you want. No, he can't do that. No, bro. This is your first time. Frankie, Frankie, your wedge game,
Starting point is 02:17:30 well, on better. It is a little flip wedge in there. Way better. It is coming around right now. It's coming around big time. I feel really confident with it, but I don't want you to not be allowed back. Like, honestly, I think Phil would be allowed back before you if you let us out there. I mean, this is like, it's not good. How about that? Can't tee off Thursday? because you guys out in the part three contest that would be 100% that was on the table if you let us go out there
Starting point is 02:17:52 you might have a your your lung might recalapse if that happens somebody that's that scotland picture I told you about just got to my door hold on let me go get it oh yeah we'll see well he's gonna show it to us that's fantastic the unboxing the unboxing guys we're back live on the live on the show are you uh are you going in with any part three contest superstition like uh you know the fact that nobody's won it. Like, just lose by one, just in case, you know? Yeah, that's smart. That's right.
Starting point is 02:18:21 You got a, you got a put to win by one and you let one of the four-play guys inside the ropes to hit that put, knowing that you'll be disqualified. I'm way, yeah. I'm way too much of a baseball guy, superstition and, like, sports betting guy to, like, chance that just can't, can't do it. Good. All right. We got a live unboxing here from Borrella, who just got his Scotland picture delivered.
Starting point is 02:18:42 How big is this picture going to be? How big is this picture going to be? That's pretty big. I'm also wearing my triple XL sweater like I'm wearing my comfy clothes today like I have my period And you're saying that You're saying that
Starting point is 02:18:52 You took this picture from an iPhone And then you and now it's going up on the wall How about that? Honestly, I was a little nervous about the quality I have no idea Well that's what I'm saying This could be horrible This could be really embarrassing
Starting point is 02:19:05 What? Who'd you use to frame? Mixed tiles Okay Mixed tiles I don't see them This guy needs a knife bad Real bad
Starting point is 02:19:18 I'd love to open This is gonna be Breathless I'm gonna collapse a lot Oh here we go That didn't take long That's not We're not gonna let you off the hook here
Starting point is 02:19:28 This is your time to fill now Dude if you have to get your fingers bloody Just do it I'm right there Yeah you're bought in now Frankie You're gonna pull this off Oh boy Poor guy
Starting point is 02:19:39 Just won a PJ tour event. He's got a master's tournament to prepare for and he's watching Frankie try to get through this box. And it looks like he's hanging out in a box. A scene asylum. What is that white room behind you? We just got, we got a talent all but we just don't have anything
Starting point is 02:19:55 anything. Oh. Nothing. This thing is sick, man. That is really good. Oh, that looks good. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:06 With the white frame. It looks really nice. The white frame was really, really risky, but it came out great. That looks good. Dude, iPhone is unbelievable, aren't they? They are. That is stunning.
Starting point is 02:20:15 That's sick. That is very well done. Thanks, guys. Success. Oh, my gosh. Success, Frankie. All right, guys. That was good.
Starting point is 02:20:25 Well, Taylor, you're awesome. I'm sorry for saying your win was boring. It's just the situation was boring. The situation was boring. I said you dominated the snake pit. It was anti-clamatic for sure for most golf tournaments. You'll get one. You'll get one.
Starting point is 02:20:39 If that's a other one. Yeah. That's the way I went, then not how it is. Oh, dude, cash and checks. There's no pictures on the check. Wire, why are Wednesdays? A lot of water.
Starting point is 02:20:48 That's for sure. Wire Wednesday is going to be sick. Yeah, especially now you're in the designated event here now. You're good for next year. I mean, you made yourself a ton of money this week. Yeah, I didn't even realize all that too.
Starting point is 02:21:01 I mean, that's a great point with the new schedule changing stuff. I mean, I knew I was in like Citry, you know, Maui next year or whatever. And then I guess, all you're going to do is you're, we might go to that.
Starting point is 02:21:10 You're ninth. If you don't finish top 50, you got, you know, it'd be a really bad second half. So you're, you're in a pole position to play in all those things like that.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Collapse long, bro. I'll just, if I'm not, then I'll just collapse. We're good. What? Do you have any guys that, uh,
Starting point is 02:21:22 you have to watch a baseball game with you in New York? If you're ever in New York, we can go to a Yankee game. I love that. I love that. I would love to have a baseball game with a real baseball guy. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:32 I haven't been to do that or mad at, it's whatever city field. It's pretty serious. Just bring Taylor Moore to all the cool places he hasn't been to. Please. Like Scotland will bring him
Starting point is 02:21:45 to Scotland for the open championship. This is St. Andrews. He will you got to know. You don't missed it by a year. Where is it this year? Hoyling. Liverpool. Oh.
Starting point is 02:21:55 Yeah. Tiger. No drivers. No drivers. That's sick. We're thinking about, yeah, Liverpool is a spot. I really want to see.
Starting point is 02:22:05 What do you mean? No drivers. Tiger won that. Maybe he won, I think he had won all week. He had one or two hours. Is that one? Boylake? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:13 It was so burned out. He just hit irons everywhere and dust in the field. That is so sick to when it made it. He's so unreal. I hit, I hit balls by him at Ritz here. And it's still like just mesmerizing. Like even though he's gone through all, you know,
Starting point is 02:22:29 shit and injuries and stuff. Like, it's still just like. Dude, that's what he says. He's like on the range. I can do it. It's no problem. And you watch him. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:35 You're like, yes, he can do it. Dude, he's such a flusher. Were you nervous standing next to him? You're nervous standing next to him on the range? I went too nervous. I mean, I actually met him last year when he got inducted into the Hall fame at the players, which was sick. And then, I mean, Sean Foley, I was working with him at the time, too. And we got to, like, you know, he obviously worked with Tiger for a couple of years.
Starting point is 02:22:56 And so he got to see him again. And Sean could talk to anybody. So he was super cool about it. But gosh, man, it's just so, it's just different person, too. like TV doesn't do it justice that what that guy can do with the golf ball. God, he's sweating all over it. It's so good. See him in person.
Starting point is 02:23:12 Seeing him in real life hitting golf balls is crazy. You're like, I can't believe that guy's real. I can't believe that the guy from the TV machine is actually standing in front of me. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy. Oh, man. We'll see you in Augusta. We're going to be there for a lot of the week leading up to play.
Starting point is 02:23:29 And then once play actually starts, we're probably going to go out of there. But Dan, obviously, there. But yeah, what's, uh, let's, let's, uh, let's, catch up with you at Augusta how things are going and you know if you want us to hit a shot we'll do it but we're we're giving you a fair warning on your repercussions might not be great that's very fair warning i will try to feel that one out before before wins you use like a specific like like coin every time to mark your ball are you like um supersitious yeah i have two now i had use a dollar or be kind of big so i use that one when i'm kind of far away from the hole and then
Starting point is 02:24:04 I use something smaller when I get close so I don't piss off everybody that I'm playing with. I was going to say we could give you like a little four player Barstall golf one like it's something from Barstall golf being used at the masses. We got to figure out something we can throw in your bag. A gold tea. Maybe you use a T just once, right?
Starting point is 02:24:21 Divit tool. Tee. Yeah, we're going to feed you something. We're going to throw something in your bag. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That'd be dumb. You can use that T and just hit it right out of, like in the water.
Starting point is 02:24:31 We're going to be like, fuck, dude. Or like the Tee, like the T. Like the T just like flies. It's like a camera man. I'll never use that T again if it goes. T like takes someone's like rent a out or something. Like the T goes flying backwards. It's a camera guy.
Starting point is 02:24:44 Ruins our whole business. Yeah. Like what is the state? Made out of like shitty material. All right. We appreciate it. Congratulations. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:53 Thanks guys. Yeah. Thanks for getting married. I appreciate it. Nice to see all you. Congrats. Yeah. We'll see it.
Starting point is 02:24:58 We'll see in Augustine a couple weeks. So cool. Congrats. Cool. Thanks guys. See it.

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