Fore Play - Bandon Dunes, Part One:

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

Live from Bandon Dunes Golf Resort in Oregon. We’ve played Bandon Trails, Pacific Dunes, and The Preserve, and we lived to talk about it: 40mph winds, spectacular views, lost golf clubs, links conditions, exposing audio, elite drones, gaping holes, spreading apart, and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Foreplay, observe my bar, stool, sports. We got the entire squad in person for the first time. Not the first time, but it feels like it's been a while. Probably been a few months. Hasn't been very often this year. We come to you from the great state of Oregon, Oregon, as some people say, which apparently is wrong.

They don't like that. Yeah, no, they didn't like that at all. That's the wrong way to say. They're offended by that. Oops. Pissed. I was saying to Trent, there's not many states in which you can say the wrong. You can say the name incorrectly based off of how they live there, right? Like New York. Everyone says New York.

Missouri. That's the one that Trent said. Really? I was like, no one says anything different, Iowa. Everyone says Iowa. You're not going to be like, oh, it's Iowa, actually. No, they don't do that. In the south and the Midwest and the southern part of Missouri, it's not uncommon to hear Missouri.

Hey, we're from Missouri. See, that one would throw me off big time. Missouri, I've never even heard. Oregon and Oregon. there are two completely different ways of saying it. So I mean, like, at that point... Wisconsin? Wisconsin?

I don't know. Wisconsin? Yeah. That's what they say sometimes. But yeah, sorry that we said they're wrong. Did I start that? I'm not sorry. I was a little, I'm a little apologetic.

You were sorry? I was because I got a lot of messages saying, you know, just say our state correctly. It's really not that difficult. It's not a work in a trail. Right. You come from a place where you say Italian cheeses and things in such a way. That's right. You know, another region city of the country,

the United States of America that was upset with us was Seattle. We dogged them like a month ago. We said it rains like 300 days a year there. And a bunch of people were sending us. Somebody sent me a long dissertation that was going through all the numbers over the last like 30 years. It was like on average it rains like 150. So like we weren't even close. So yeah, we're sorry.

So was the number 150 days a year though? It was. Because we're looking up. I know I have the email. 150's not. You guys want to talk about Owen's Mixers? look it up? Yeah.

Owens Mixers has really brought us to the 21st century when it comes to alcohol and drinking and having a good time, right? Like, I feel like it's such a, you know, alcohol has been around for a real long time, fellas. Ancient Greeks used to drink. We got to break your back on? No. But, you know, there was never this, like, this is an invention.

It's really hard to, like, invent something. And Owen's Mixers has invented a way to have mixers. and they're in these nice, beautiful cans. You can get, what's, what, what a couple of mixers you can get from Owen's mixing? Ginger beer and lime. Ginger beer and lime. Mint cucumber and lime. The grapefruit and lime.

They got the barterina mix now. Transfusion. What's the paloma? Grapefruit. Oh, grapefruit. Yeah, so I can be used fucker to give. And then they also have this thing called the transfusion. They do.

Speaking of transfusion. And ginger out. We're having a big event Thursday next week, Rider Cup week, for anyone that's in town for the Rider Cup, Shoboigan area. Wisconsin. We're doing a big Part 3 tournament You can mispronounce that one.

The Bads. What's up? You could mispronounce Sheboigan. Come see Sheboigan and Chiboyan. There might be a thousand different ways to say Shiboyin. I'll pump for you to drop that. I've been really excited about that for a long time.

Thursday at the Baths par three course at golf Kolar, which is Kohler, Wisconsin. Their whole thing, they've got four courses plus the part three. Now they've got two courses at Black Wolf run. They got the river. and I can't remember what the other one is. And they got the Straits course and the Irish course. And they've added this par three course, the baths, which is sick.

On the baths. On Thursday, we are going to have the whole thing rented out. We're going to do a Owens Mixers Transfusion par three tournament. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. Par three tournament. People are going to be gassed up for this. They're going to be drinking Owens Mixers. It's Ryder Cup week.

Is that your nightmare? What? Part three course. Because you just got to nip a bunch of wedgers. Not when it's like. I think part three is pretty well usually. If they're full swings. Full swings.

You got to bring those things in like 62 yards. It has a few of those, but it's a little longer than the cradle. It's bad. It is bad. But Pinehurst, like when they have the turf down. Yeah. I mean, I usually hate turf, but on par three is, man, I love it. It takes the chunk out of it.

You can just. Takes a chunk out big time. Yeah, you're a five-ax different wedge player off the cradle mats. Oh, my God. Just a cradle one there, yeah. So the information is Thursday, the 23rd, which it's kind of the late morning afternoon we're doing it. And some people understand that is also the opening ceremonies and all that that they do. So there won't be a ton of like practice round stuff that you'll be missing.

So we figure we throw our own event with Owens, who's awesome, at the baths. Tea time start at 1048 a.m. It's $168 per pair. Feels like we could have rounded up to something there. Also feels like we could have started at 11, not 1048. Yeah. What's these, these numbers? are so specific.

Keeping people guessing, Trent. Registration begins Wednesday, the 15th. So that's going to be tomorrow, if you're listening to the show. This 15th is September at 10 a.m. So get excited for that. Owens is delicious. Port enemy favorite liquor and you have an awesome drink. Seattle, it says, let's get something straight.

Seattle edition. This is from Austin. Listen, I get that it's fun to play along with the stereotype in Seattle is the rainiest, most miserable place in America. True. False. Insert Dwight Shrew quote. Does it rain 300 days a year? No. On average, it rains 155 days, still not great, but a big difference from 300.

Huge difference. Huge difference to 300. Point Austin. But still unacceptable. Point us for 150 days of rain is unacceptable. He goes on. Also, Washington is ranked 30th in annual state precipitation. Seattle isn't even in the top 50 cities, places like Houston, Springfield.

and Rochester get more rain in a year. As for clouds, boys, it's all true. Seattle sees 308 cloudy days a year. That's miserable. But I wonder what the, like, how do they define a cloudy day? Dude, Seattle stinks when it comes to its weather. It's just you can write all the emails you want.

I mean, you need sun, you need vitamin D. There's a reason why like Seattle's known as this like mopey sad town, this, guy fucking... You're pointing to me now. Yeah.

Trent Ryan. Is that you're thinking of? Trent. Our guy... What's up, man? Our singer. Sturgle Simpson talks about his time in Seattle. He's like, it's just a nasty place, man.

Well, that's where grunge came from. Grunge, man. You need that vitamin D. You need that sunlight on your face. It's like your body literally craves it. And when you have 300... How many days of cloud? 308.

308. 308 days of cloud cover? That's not good. You like to get a little bit of vitamin. D, Frank? I do like to get D when it comes from vitamins. Yeah, I do too. We've been getting a lot of vitamin D

those far as this trip. I've been doing some research. You need vitamin D more than like people think. You need to go outside. Yeah, places where the sunlight doesn't shine, I think depression or like. They call it seasonal depression a lot of the time. Like in the winter.

New York City in the winter when we're running from subway to office to apartment and you're just like never seeing the sun and all of a sudden you're like mopey and you're waiting for just Christmas jingles to come around because you need some sort of happiness, because you're not seeing the sun. Which we're starting the day after Thanksgiving this year. Day after Thanksgiving.

Which is also Black Friday. Bro, we're really going to get into the Christmas spirit. I think everyone's ramping up the Christmas spirit. Did you see the new Disney Plus show that's coming out Hawkeye? No. Which, uh, well, it's Jeremy Renner. He's Hawkeye. And it's a Christmas theme.

Like the whole nine episode mini-series on Disney Plus is Christmas. Like they're, they're, they do the trailer to like Santa Claus is coming to town or something like that. Well, like how much of a deletrector? How much of a delight was that Ted Lassow episode a couple weeks ago? Made me cry. Made me just, it sent shivers down my spine.

Out of nowhere. Usually they do it. They try and match it up with the time of year. Ted Lassow threw a Christmas episode at us out of nowhere. It was really nice. Christmas is great. I'll be waiting until December first. See,

that's weird. Why do you have to be like that as a person? Whatever, dude. I've always, I mean. Brett, but we said we're doing it different this year. We're going all in.

You guys did. That's what I mean. Why do you have to go away from us? Why can't you just do it? It's a mindset. It's nothing on the calendar. It's a mindset. You don't need a calendar change.

We're going to do it on the 26th, and you're just not going to do it until the first. Five days later. What's the difference? I would love to see you in a Christmas sweater on November 26th. Right. I might buy a Santa suit.

If you do a Santa suit, I'll do whatever you want. I'll do a sand suit right now. Can I sit on your lap? I'll be sitting on a trans lap. We can have a four-play Christmas where... I get to tell you everything I want. Can we do a Christmas?

Can we do a Christmas episode? Yes. What do you want to just tell her? favorite Christmas stories? No, but just like it's themed. Like we're wearing Christmas stuff. It's a Christmas theme. We have jingles. Somebody, I know. I think it was Jake said that we should do a Christmas card.

We'll absolutely do that too. Okay, Christmas card. Okay, Christmas card. Do a Christmas card. Yeah, now we're talking. I did put on my calendar. I have it here. 8 a.m. 26th of November, four plate Christmas begins. Yes.

I'm excited. 7 a.m. You're not there yet. 8 a.m. you're not there yet. 8 a.m. It's all start. 8 a.m. Yeah, because we'll be up

slinging merge until probably 2 a.m. realistically. Get six hours sleep, wake up, Christmas time. Bang. We keep slinging merch. Bang.

So, Bannon Dunes. We got a lot to talk about on this show. We've got the Ryder Cup teams are set. We're going to get to that. We have the Pittsburgh trip where Kisner and I qualify

will get to that a little bit. I think we should begin with Banda Dunes fresh in our mind. We are at the Round Lake Coddages, which are brand new. They opened August 1. It is September 13th. So they're brand new.

we're here as a crew for the first time. We're just under halfway through our trip. We have played Bandon Trails. We have played Pacific Dunes and we've played the Preserve Part 3 course. The weather has been phenomenal, sunny, about 62, but it's been extremely windy,

as how I would describe it thus far. Is there your stomach? It's my stomach. It's just eight, too. What the hell was that? It's digestion. Yeah, there's just something moving around from one part to another part.

You're digesting that. It was a rumble. The inside of your stomach can make a noise, right? There's no holes there. Imagine how loud it is in there. A hole. If you were in there, if you were like a womb in the womb. It's like you broke before, like there's a hole there.

Yeah. That's just the stomach. It's just coming out your belly button or something. Right. So, um, your guys, I'm curious to go through it, your guys' first impressions of band. Well, first impression of just the trip in general was, um, that's a, yeah, that's a good defense. We're also, we got Monday night football on here. Things are weird.

Things are weird in the West Coast. Like it's 5 o'clock. We got Monday night football going on. It's weird. It's bright out here. It's dark over there. It's nuts. First experience of being in Oregon is they lost our bags coming from Denver.

So it was a bad, it was a bad start to this trip. I will say that. Vives were low for Trent and I. So we met you guys here. We flew from LaGuardia. You guys were flying from Pittsburgh. Lurch was flying from wherever the fuck. Lurch was flying from.

from, oh, Boston. No, no, no, it was in Newark. Newark. And then we go to Denver. We have an hour layover, beautiful layover, just enough time to take your bags from one plane to another. We get on the plane from Denver to Eugene, Oregon. We get there, no bags there, which is just every golfer's nightmare when you're about to embark on a brand new, once in a lifetime golf trip. And you put everything in your golf bag.

You put everything in your golf bag. I call it my ditty bag. I don't know why I call it a ditty bag, but it's my nighttime bag. I got my creams. You mean dobb kit? It's a dop kit. I call it a ditty bag. I don't know why.

You call it every one. I just want to make sure we're talking about the same thing. We're talking about a nighttime bag. You know, you got your pills, you got your creams, you got your nail clippers, the whole thing. Vitamin D, vitamin C, all that stuff. Vitamins. So we didn't have any of that. And we're going to Oregon.

And obviously when you're flying to Eugene, it's about a two and a half hour trip from Eugene to bandin. Luckily for us, we were spoiled with maybe the best experience of all time, I would say, going from an airport to a golf course? What would you guys say? Yeah, so we looked up, it was Frankie's idea. We looked up Tim Tucker, former caddy for Bryson to Shambon when that whole thing was going.

Every single story kept hitting with like the caveat. Like, yeah, he's actually leaving anyways to go start his travel company van shuttle service to Bannon Dunes. He used to be a caddy of Bannadunes, whatever. So we're like, oh yeah, good idea. We should look that up. So it's called the Loop Travel is what they are. And they are a high-end.

luxury basically van that we were all guessing they they essentially stripped a really nice sprinter van yep and turned it into something i wouldn't even have a vision where spaceship i would say it's bigger than a sprinter van though i mean there's i think it's a sprinter van i mean spurner van i mean spurner van i think spurner vans have like 10 rows of seats if you think about it we're not let's not get let's not get caught up all the details anyways it's a sizable van that you can have individual seats that swivel, four on each side. Best chair I've ever sat in, I think. Yeah.

They have massage. Comfortable, more comfortable than your living room. Oh, it is, yeah. I bought a couch from IKEA. You've got it together. No, I didn't put it together. Oh, you could have put it together. I hired someone to do it.

That's right. That's how bad is couches. Right. It's okay. But these seats were leather, a very nice leather. They could swivel. They had the massage. They had.

heating they had cooling i mean it was the works and there's there's four on each side so eight total and it's just an experience like i had not had before it was really cool man um tvs in there the lights and everything and you just you can throw up the navigation see how far away you are and the driver there was awesome um and all the guys that we met from the loop were amazing they're just a bunch of bros and and good guys that just want to have us have a good experience on our way from eugene to or two band of dunes And in Texas, ever since we got here, like, what did you guys think today? We're playing tomorrow. They love it.

Like they love it. So it is loop golf travel is their, their IG and ban and loop transportation.com. It's awesome. And if you look it up, it comes up, like if you look them up and you want to book this, like everyone that's listening to this, they're going to want to go to Bandon's with their buddies for a golf trip. It's going to be a no-brainer because you're going to hear how much we love this place. If you didn't know already, you're going to know now. This place is outrageous.

And you're going to want to do the loop. and you're going to search it, you're going to type in all your numbers, your dates, when you arrive, all this stuff. And it's going to be an expensive number from what I originally thought. But then when you knock it down, like if you have eight guys, you divide it from that price, and you know, like, all right, we're going two and a half hours in the most luxury van of all time. We're going to be able to, you know, hang out with their guys, not worry about anything. The safety is like so much better driving down those windy roads where you have a professional driver taking you from one place to another. it ends up being like pretty affordable and not that bad.

When you divided by eight, it was like, what was like 150? 150 bucks or something. You're having an experience. Like that's something you're always going to remember. So definitely look into it, the loop, you know, very grateful that we, that that is a thing now. Because even when I want to come back, I'm going to do that. Yeah, I think if you divided it out, I think they said it was like around 2,500 bucks for the round trip. So we divided that out by eight guys.

You get like a little over 300 bucks a person, round. trip. Right. And you're going to rent, the other way is like you rent a car or I don't know if you can even Uber or whatever. And it's just a phenomenal experience. And they, they kept making the point of you get these guys that book this trip, right? And now abandon, like, you have to book ban in like at least a year in advance, if not further. And so you book this trip. It's a trip of a lifetime. Everybody's got different budgets. So some people save up for literally years to be able to go on this trip. And every part of it's awesome, right? Like you've got the right lodging. You've got all the courses dialed in. You've got dinner reservation. And Then you go to the bar after. Except there's this gaping hole part of it that fucking sucks. Gaping hole. Yeah, Gaping hole sucks. Really hard to say that word without me commenting or laughing.

I'm glad you addressed it. This gaping hole. I mean, I'm picturing just an asshole being ripped apart. That's something you put in a search bar. Gosh, just gaping. What you think you can just gaping.

R slash gaping holes There's our Reddit Reddit thread That's a late night search engine You better clear your cash I'm committed to it being a gaping hole Why is that in your like Lexicon?

You never heard that? Oh we've heard it We've heard it But not in not outside of Websites you don't want people to know you're on I mean yeah I guess so It's just Listen the transportation

They noticed this gaping hole in this. Right. When you're looking at your itinerary and you're seeing this gaping hole. Transportation from Eugene to Bannon Dunes. That's a gaping hole. All right. There is a gaping hole. So go on.

Which is that it sticks. It's a very unenjoyable part of a trip. People are uncomfortable. They don't have enough space. I was going to say the gaping hole stinks. Yeah, no, dude. Now we're getting too much. Two and a half hour rides are no joke either.

I don't enjoy them. Some guys get, and I am a motion sickness guy. I want that on the record. I felt nothing on this, on this sprinter van. I am too, actually. I've noticed that recently

when I take Uber's that I start to get car sick. I think it's because I don't drive anymore and I, like I'm rarely in a car. I usually walk or do whatever. But now when I get into a car, I get motion sickness. But like you're saying,

on this loop travel, I had none of that, which is great. They pick you up from Ben too. So this 2,500 bill is from, That was from Eugene. Yeah. So they picked you up from all over the place. They dropped us off at the hotel we were staying at because the first night we had to stay in a parking lot.

So essentially... What did you think of that hotel? It was a scary hotel. It reminded me of no country for old men. I mean, whenever the doors lead out to the parking spots, it's just I'm a no-go on that. I mean, I'd rather sleep in a car, to be honest. It has nothing to do with, like, wanting to be, like, pampered and spread apart and all this stuff. I don't know why is that spread apart.

Pampered and spread apart. It looks right at me when you said it, too. When you're pamper, it's like, I was just picturing, like, What hotels are you staying? You know what it was? When I talk, you're about to have a gaping hole.

When I talk, I picture things in my head. I picture visual things. I just pictured, like, a hotel with someone just pampering my, like, my grundle and just spread me apart. Like, the most, the nicest hotel ever.

Where you walk in, just de-rope. And there's like, sit down. You're talking about it. Anyway, we got here. We got here. We ended up getting here. We're in, we're in band.

I keep saying Oregon. We are in Oregon. But we are abandoned Dunes Golf Resort. Upon arriving, it is exactly what everyone says it is and everything that you've heard. It's a factory of golf. You pull into the main entrance. And there's just this amazing, just entrance way with this clubhouse. And you just, you see.

the most dudes on a golf trip ever. Like there's just buses of people getting off. It's a small city, honestly. It's a city of golf, man. There's lodging everywhere. There's buses going everywhere.

And it's just fucking golf. It's golf on the Pacific Ocean. It's fucking awesome. And yeah, we didn't have our clubs. So just to put a bow tie on that one, we didn't have our clubs leading in. And our first course that we were playing was the trails. And, yeah,

So vibes were low, to be honest, starting this amazing trip, going on the loop, doing the whole thing, and never having our golf bay. It just sucks, especially where Team Taylor made where, like, I want my shit. I was getting aggravated with you guys. You're like, well, like, just take rentals. I'm like, I don't want to fucking take rentals. We have the fucking best golf clubs in the world. We got Taylor Maids. I got my P790s.

I have all my golf shoes in there. You said I'd rather not play. I said I'd rather not play. And I feel like a lot of people listening to this, I mean, you got to think, like, guys that go on golf trips. like, I don't know, is it 15, 20% have experienced this once where like the airline messed up or something happened. Happens all too frequently. They said it happened four times a day.

United Airlines can do fallacious on me. Yeah, I was going to say, whose fault is this? It's United Airlines. Let's assign blame. They just don't put the bags on the plane. It was on one plane. It's got to go on another plane. It made the next flight.

Yeah. So whatever, dude. It's just a fucking joke. And I was upset. Go off, King. We ended up renting clubs. They had tailor maids. And, yeah, I don't know if you want to take us.

into the first round. So the first one we played was Bannon Trails. For folks who don't know, trails is pretty much the only one of their main courses. It's not on the water. It is in the trees. From the first tee on trails, you can see the ocean.

You get this beautiful vista, pretty much in all direction where you can see the preserve, which is their part three course, which does overlook the water. You can see a few holes sprinkled in from Bandon and from Pacific, but you don't really know, you don't have your bearings.

You just kind of see the ocean. You hit out, and then pretty much, for the next 16 holes, you are, you know, a little bit below the tree line down in the trails and the tall kind of pines out here in the Pacific Northwest. And it's stunning. It is, it's a core Crenshaw course. Obviously, they're very renowned. They're a course all overplace. But it's, it's phenomenal. And it's a really cool way to, I would say, enter almost like softly enter into the trip because the wind's not as bad. You're not as exposed. And you're kind of down in these trees.

but it does feel, I think we all kind of said a few different views that we had on trails. It does look like the Pacific Northwest in Oregon in a sense that it visually looks

like nothing you've really been to before, even though it's not on the cliffs. Yeah, very much. I mean, the first T-box, it was a great way to start too because they said, and I agreed with from what I've seen, is that's the best T-box

that they might have for a starting T-box in terms of the view. Truly incredible. And you take a look at it and you're like, oh my God, you're getting fired up for this trip and you're like, we're just playing every hole that's out there.

And then you get tucked away in the trees. I loved it because it was beautiful. And like Trent was saying, I need to take as many deep breaths as possible because I think you're adding years to your life. Oh, yeah. I always feel like when I see a lot of trees, my brain starts to heal.

Right. I do feel that way. Like whenever I go home to Iowa and I'm landing amongst all the greenery, it feels like it's like cleaning, my brain. Because we spend so much time in New York City where it's just, rah! And things are happening and cars are flying by, horns are honking. People are yelling. It's just like, oh my God. And then you get to a place like this, where you see all the trees

and you breathe the fresh air. And it really does feel like it heals a part of you. You ever see the movie Soul? Yes. You know, in that like area where people aren't dead yet and those little monsters are created by like people sitting at their desk or their whole entire lives in the city and then like when you actually look at their soul it's like this big monster and it's like marr-br-mortment's muttering to himself if you haven't seen soul you're just aloof to what i'm doing right now yeah you just started talking about monsters and shit dude basically they're saying like like you have to free your soul so like they show this guy um sitting there at a fucking desk just like pressing numbers all day and then when he goes to his soul um when they cut to

his soul in the movie um it's like this covered in black and it's just a nasty dark thing So, like, they release his soul. And then it's this nice, beautiful little soul in the middle. And I feel like Trent, like, flying into a place of trees is that, like, just darkened. You're like, your brain is just, like, nothing. And then all of a sudden, as you're landing, as you're taking breaths in, it's slowly just disappearing. And there's that beautiful baby boy, Trent, that heavy baby that was born in Iowa. How heavy were you?

14 pounds. 14-pound baby that was born in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Big baby. It's a big. It's very cleansing. And we walk, you walk these courses, and you really pay attention to everything that's around you. When you're in a cart, you hit your shot, you get in,

you look at your phone, and you're kind of talking to the guy next to you, and then you get out and you hit another shot. Here you are forced to take in the sights, and I actually really like that. I think that's been a really nice wrinkle so far. Yeah, you brought that up halfway through the round yesterday. I thought that was a really good point. You're like, man, I'm really observing a lot of this course out here.

One thing that I love about trails is that it's very defined. And out here, and I think you guys noticed today on Pacific, you know, we're talking about it's like defined and peaceful, whereas a lot of the rest of the resort is very like rugged and mean. Because it's on like this, this rugged coast that gets pelted with the elements, the ocean, waves, water, wind, nonstop. The wind is the catalyst for anger. It just is. It's all anger. And when you're down in trails, it's like serene and again, kind of defined. where it's like this is the corridor

you're supposed to hit your shot into. This is this hole. This is this hole. These are the tree lines that you're supposed to stay in between. And even out on Pacific Dunes today, it's like some of them it looks out and you're like, you kind of hit it anywhere

and like which hole's mine and which holds the next hole. And so what I really do like about trails, I always think of the greenery. And I always just think of a few of those t-shots where it's very clearly defined. Like you have to hit it in between that tree line and that tree line and that's it.

It's a little bit of a comforting thing. There were hints of like a Pacific Northwest Augusta in some corners. Yeah, you love that on that long par three. What was that 14 or 15? Yeah. What was it? 12 or 13. 12 and then to 13 because that was the T-box over there.

13 has that pond down by the green. No, 11 does. And then the next one is the one you're talking about. So it has to be 12, the part 3. 13. 13 come back. So 12 is a par 3. And then on to the right of the green, it just goes into the 13th T-box,

which then comes back and it's just it's like a stadium of these high Pacific Northwest trees that just like guide you from left to right around the fairway and you know like Riggs is saying it's so defined and you're like holy shit this is almost like if someone tried to create an augusta feel in Oregon it was nuts it was like everything about it just felt very almost took your breath away so yeah thinking back like and we haven't gotten to Pacific Dunes yet which is the second course we played golf course in general I definitely like the way trails looked more than and that's coming from a guy that loves the ocean

on golf courses I love views that's how good trails was I think trails is so... You can remember holes on trails more than you can not. Agreed. I agree with that too because again I think maybe it's in our minds the more like definition that each one had and they almost have like more of a very clear identity when you stand on the tea versus everything sort of blending. Inland holes at Pacific Dunes

every hole to me is one. Obviously the one on the water you remember. Still, but they blend together for me too. Because I mean, when you're walking, I'm just looking at the ocean the whole time. So it's almost like you can't take your eyes away from like, you know, a flame or a car crash. You're just looking at that.

And when it's so expansive and you're like, next stop's just like Russia. Like it's just, you know, like it's just there's nothing over there. And I just couldn't stop looking at it. So I agree with you. The trails. aspect, like there's some really defined holes and the pines are massive here. So to your point, like as long as you kept the ball low, the wind really didn't hit it as much. But as soon as you

got above the trees, it started a swirl where, I mean, you're just, as soon as you hit it, the wind's hitting it. So, yeah, I, uh, I didn't, I never even thought about that with the ocean where you don't, when you look, think about like if you had to go back and sketch the hole from a bird's eye view, you wouldn't even know where the bunkers and stuff were. Because you're just looking at, right. Your head is just bluepy. in this way. There are some views on Pacific Dunes though that like it doesn't matter what happened for 17 other holes.

You're just like, I can't believe I'm on this T-box right now. And that was always been my point when you're talking about what are your favorite golf holes to ever play or golf course to ever play? If you give me one moment where I'm like, I can't believe I'm here right now, then it's Yeah, but doesn't that hurt your point? Like you love the land, but the hole doesn't even matter. Right, no, but I still would rather play that over the hole is. That's where the hole is.

You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't matter. The hole could be nothing. There could be no hole. As long as the course I played led me to that ledge on top of that, that cliff where I'm looking out. And you can see that, like, bend of Oregon that we saw today. It was nuts, man. And like all the waves crashing and probably like whales fucking fucking each other out in the ocean.

It was nuts, man. I cannot get off the gaping hole. They've got gaping holes. They have gaping blow holes. Yeah. Hold on one. They do. What?

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www. NMLS Consumer Access.org. So Trails, agreed. Fantastic. It is, it is, you know, an age-old thing for anyone that's ever come to ban and to chat with other people that have gone to bandit about their rankings. So imagine we'll get to that, you know, once we, once we've played all the courses. How was your experience with the, um, the rental clubs, Trent?

Pretty good. Did it take the experience away of trails at all? No. Okay. I didn't think so. I think I played about as well as I, well, hmm. So we ended up getting sim irons. They got all tailor made, which is awesome.

So shout out to band him for that. Yeah. We got sim irons, probably like the older version. versions of them. And then we got the original SIM driver Maxes. The only problem for me was that they were all regular flex and like 85 gram iron shafts. And these things were pool noodles. They were flopping around like crazy. So for me, it kind of, that's all I was thinking about all day. So for you, it's nice to hear that you didn't really get affected by it. The only thing for me was the putter. I love my putter so much and I love looking down at it and seeing my putter. They

They gave me a spider, and I use a spider as well. But just something about mine and everything we've been through. It's nice to have something familiar down there when you look down. So seeing another putter down there, that was probably my number one problem. But other than that, I thought the clubs were. Putters are a very personal thing. It is. Yeah, I think so.

We saw today for me the drastic difference in having two different putters. I was nervous going into yesterday's round, though, because I didn't think that you were going to be able to take that in stride. like Trent has a much better chance of taking the club news and tried when... Trent is much more mentally stable than I was. Oh yeah. And that,

yeah, it was apparent. United felt the wrath of that. Right, as we said, there's a positive to it happening to both of us because you were the one

who was kind of like, you were really pushing like, we got to get these clubs, like we got to get them as soon as possible. And I was kind of just like, I hope they come. Yeah.

I hope they get here. But it was good because I bet they got here sooner because you were so like, can you please get us our clubs? Yeah, it was a long. It was a long process, but we got them. Yeah.

You drove the ball well with your regular flex driver, I thought. So we'll get to the second round. I know we keep saying that. But like, I think that using the regular flex and all these really light shafts, it made it a lot more difficult for me to hit irons. I couldn't hit a green all day. Like, and not like I usually hit greens, but I just couldn't, I didn't know. When you lack confidence and just like where the ball's going to go at all

and you're playing in windy, um, element. and you're playing in a completely different, basically continent is what Bandon Dunes is. It's not America. This is like, I've never seen anything like this place in America. I only thought that this type of land existed in Tasmania when we played in Australia. So, like, having no confidence when swinging was really tough. But for some reason, the driver made me swing super slow. And everyone that's ever watched me in YouTube videos knows my tempo stinks out loud.

So having a wippy shaft on the driver, I think helped me a lot. It carried over into today. for sure. Yeah, because you drove a great today. Like I have a new swing. Thanks to the assholes at United Airlines. It's all because of them. Way to get that in there.

Yeah. So then today we played Pacific Dunes. And we, trails last thing I'll say that is a lot of the caddies say like the locals' favorite course is trails. And that's always like an interesting, you know, when they say that. So then the reason I said that is because Pacific Dunes, which we played today, Tom Doak design A lot of it's on

Obviously the Pacific Ocean It's amazing It's gorgeous It's stunning But Link's Jim's We've had on the show a few times Who we referenced quite a bit He believes

Pacific is the The best publicly accessible golf course In the country So clearly it gets a lot of praise as well Showed up again We had a pretty much a bluebird day It was sunny It was gorgeous

It was low 60s It was very windy For us 30 to 40 miles an hour It was just I think it's windy for anybody, just because, like, the locals say it was like, oh, it's for any human golfer. What is that?

Like a category of one hurricane? 40 mile an hour winds is, I mean, at some point, I don't know, at some point, it falls into some category. It's not just no wind. It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, strong this wind was. It was sustained 30 plus. It had to have been 30 plus the entire day.

The dustings of 45. Yes, where you were like, couldn't barely stand up. looking at it right now. I know what he's laughing. When does the tropical storm? The numbers for an actual hurricane or outreach? Category 1 hurricane, the wind started 74 miles per hour. It's a tropical storm.

Yeah, what's a tropical storm? I don't have that just yet. I won't you go search that. It was windy, but it was beautiful. So what I've been thinking about is people respond to our stories, we've been putting up, you know, and a lot of people have been trying to be in like, when I was there, it was cloudy, foggy, 45 miles an hour, and you couldn't even see the ocean

and it was a 40 mile an hour away. That does suck. We talked to two guys coming off the course. Yesterday they played Pacific Dunes and they said the Marine Layer was just kicked in. Is it Marine Layer? Yeah.

They kicked in so hard they didn't even know where the coast was. They didn't know where the cliffs are. And that, if you're making it all time, like who knows where you're traveling from? Right. I mean, basically everyone is traveling from somewhere deep when you're coming to Bannon Dunes

because it's in the middle of nowhere. I mean, imagine coming from like England or something to come play Bannon and you can't see the fucking. You can't see what Bandon is. It's just beautiful. Yeah. Today, what we played today, and we're going to experience it tomorrow at Sheep Ranch and then at Bandon and all these other courses.

But what we played today is Bandon. Like that's Bandon Dune. Yes. That's just the fucking Pacific Ocean, the wind, beautiful, beautiful skyline. Like that that lookout where just the land just like disappears into the water and into the sky. It's something that I, like I said, I didn't think existed in America. I really didn't. Tropical storm starts at 39 miles per hour.

So that's tropical storm. Yeah. We're right there. But there were some gusts today that entered the tropical storm realm. For sure, dude. I was getting like an earache. It was like blowing into my ear all day. You couldn't hear people talk.

Pins were 135 and I was thinking about hitting like a seven iron, which is like 185,19. I hit, I was 145 today and I hit the, I mean, it was my shot of the day. Oh my God. No, my iron. Yeah, I hit a five iron from 145 and I gave it everything I had. And I think I can get a five iron of 200 on like a regular day. So it was about a 60 yard difference. Yeah, that's how much that wind was.

It is stunning how into the wind how much any spin is just exaggerated to an outrageous degree. And to the point where at the end of that ball's flight, it is going almost straight sideways. Or sometimes backwards. Yeah, it's going backwards a lot, especially with an iron shot. But I'm thinking like off the team and when you hit one that's got like a what would be, you know, maybe right rough, maybe a little worse than right rough. Like a pretty, not a great T shot, but like it's fine. That goes 120 yards, right? And goes like 150 yards total because you just get dominated by the wind.

So there was a lot of that today. But then it's not as you turn around and obviously anything downwind. It just takes all the spin off it and just shoots it straight down the fairway and they're firm fast, all that out here. So, so yeah, the wind. And it was just so. prevailing and consistent. Like it was, it didn't swirl at all. It was just into you or downwind, pretty much the entire day.

And the drastic differences in that and how, like, enjoyable and playable it is at our skill level. It's sort of unbelievable. To Frankie's point, like, the part 311th hole is 130 yards. And it was like, I hit a flushed six iron. And I was still however many feet short of the hole. Like, I was on the green. But, like, that's a hundred, that is at least a 50 yard. 45 to 50 yard difference.

That's really hard to mentally understand that you have to swing normal speed, right? Like you're saying, like, no matter what club change I make, let's say it's 130 yard shot, I usually hit a pitching wedge, but now I have a five iron in my hand.

I'm still swinging, like, hard because of the wind. You know what I mean? I'm like sort of changing my swing still, even though I just made a fucking whatever, like, five club difference, right? Four club difference, five club?

Like the club change is why is the wind factor. But I'm still, it's not a shot change. It's just like change the fucking loft of the iron. Yes. You're still hitting 180 yard shot. Right. 109 year's shot.

Right. So for me, it's just mentally, the wind just gets in my head big time. Like I'm still swinging super hard. And it just gets to you, man. It beats on you all fucking day. All day long. I hit one so right because you like what you were just saying,

how it times the spin by like a billion. I hit one's so right on one of those holes on the coast that my caddy just looked at me and he was like, he was like, woof. Like I don't, he was, I don't know what just happened. But he's like, we're going to go up there, we're going to drop a ball because that's OB and we're just going to try and grind out a double hair. He's like, he's like, man, that thing went sideways. It takes off, man.

It actually hits a wind current and just never comes back. So, you know, the ocean holes are obviously. spectacular, they're gorgeous. I'm curious how they stack up to like other courses, ocean holes that we've played. Because it's very different. I think a lot of us noticed early on like the whole terrain

is different than Pebble Beach. Right? Like, or spyglass. Hars are on the ocean. They're famous for being on the ocean. But like the entire topography, terrain, style of golf is completely different. It's Australia. Yeah, I mean, it's just a way more harsh climate than, you know, down where Pebble is and beautiful Monterey Bay.

It's like the winters here are going to beat this place. I mean, it's very much like Cabot. There's a couple holes that just reminded me exactly like Cabot. But yeah, that's Tasmania. Like when we walked to the first T-box of trails, we both walked up there and looked each other and was like, this is just Tasmania. This is the same thing over again.

Right, we were comparing pictures at dinner, and it looked just like Tasmania. I was able to pull up a picture and no one knew if it was from today or if it was from when we were in Tasmania. Right. That was pretty crazy. Especially since when we were in Tasmania, we were like, soak it in, guys.

We're never going to see this ever again. We'll never see this type of terrain. These little mountains in the background with this amazing ocean and then all these like mounds and hills and bunkers. It just doesn't exist. Like we can't get to the part of the world that looks like that. And then we were standing on the first Died abandoned dunes. There's this golf resort in Oregon.

And we were like, what the fuck's happening right now? It was crazy. is it's uh it's such a special piece but i would say it's very much tasmania obviously but i would compare like identically to cavit in terms of the playability and the look and feel i don't know how you guys compare it ocean courses um i mean i think harsher is the is the best word for it in terms of like harsher than like a pebble like pebble yeah it's it's it's much it's cooler it's it's you just feel how much i don't know what the word is for i think Being harsher is the word for it.

That's the only way that it feels like to me. Right, because Pebble has those just beautifully plush fair. Like here, you just can't have that. You know, that's not, that grass that is just not going to succeed. So everything is just beaten up. It's, and, you know, like in Stillwater and Pebble, it's not blowing consistently 30 plus all day. Like Arcadia was in front of one of the traps and it's just blowing sand out of the trap all day. And that's just the way it is.

You know, it just can't keep sand in the bunker. It's just that, and that's the way this earth has to continue to fight against the wind that just blowing all day long with no forgiveness. It felt like a fight. Yeah, I like to eat. It felt like a fight. That's what I would say is the difference between this and a pebble. You feel like you're battling.

I mean, there are days at Pebble where you certainly feel like you're battling. Like the two days that we've played out there, that I've played out there, I felt like I was getting beaten down a lot of the day. And that's also because of the length of the golf course at Pebble and also like just a couple holes. where it just beats you down with the wind. This is like a consistent, sustained win that I've never experienced in my life.

Right, we were saying it's like someone's pushing against your chest as you're walking down the fairway. And even when it's at your back, it's not that comfortable. Like, even when you're on the tee, you're like, oh shit, like I can't wait to go down wind. Dude, like, we had these little 110-yard shots because we were hitting our drive so far

where, like, I felt like, oh, now I have to hit a 70-yard chip, even though I'm 110. And then, like, the wind's bringing my club, like a million miles an hour. I thought that was much more difficult than hitting into the wind. Like those little touchy shots. There's a good amount of wild turkey.

Maybe they heard that we're skipping right over Thanksgiving and we're going to Christmas. They're saying, hey, don't forget about us. They want to come to celebrate. That's the other thing out here, wildlife. We haven't run into a ton of it outside of turkeys and some deer. But I don't think there's anything, certainly nothing like Tasmania in terms of like the snakes and things that can bite you.

you but out here it seems pretty friendly yeah they're like you go walk in there there there's nothing's gonna hurt you in there you can't even do that in scots stick scots day you go there might you get rattle snake you're dead some of the plants out here were biting me when i was plants yeah they're sharp they start biting my leg yeah it's actually biting but they're scratching almost like gorse type stuff look yeah it's like yeah like brush and it's a little yeah rugged and mean they um certainly use the cliffs here better than like most places though like yeah you're saying that about tori about tori ponies

Like when we there are certain areas of specifically where we play today that looked like Tori where they have those like pits almost of those low bush tree type things and you're like oh shit that that really reminds me of Tori and then you realize that like Tori could be like abandoned where they actually use a lot of the coastline and a lot of the cliffs and they just don't know it sucks man they miss a lot of it and it's like a lot of times they're like 100 yards away from it 50 yards away from it. It was like the hole that your brother got a hole in one. Like that should be like every hole at Tori. Like like and then even the one that goes to the right. Like I actually down the coastline. Like there's, that should be at Torrey Pines all the time. And they use, I think they only have like two or three holes that are even close to the water at Tori. It's crazy.

Yeah, you're right because there's several holes today where it's like your ball could either be three feet away and be totally fine. Or if it's three feet left, you are off the cliff. Literally off the cliff. Felt uncomfortable standing. Yeah. I wanted my ball say because the wind was blowing so hard. and my foot was legitimately seven inches away from the edge. Was that that part four on the front, the fourth hole or not?

Yes. Yeah, you're right. And a lot of places don't utilize them particularly wherever. They kind of miss. It's like a missed opportunity. What do you think? What would you compare it to? Cabot definitely.

But I just think it is, is Cabot that windy? No, but just I guess when I've been there, it hasn't. But I wouldn't say it's as consistently as windy as this. No. not as consistently as we've had it this trip but I also would say that the other two times have been abandoned it hasn't been anything like this this is insane the whole time like this has been

really really windy the whole time and all they keep saying is that it's going to keep getting more windy as the people are laughing as the wind emoji on his weather just as wind they're just like yeah so it's windy out there folks not like and it's you know trails the least windy and then I think bandin is like maybe the second least windy and then Pacific is similar to kind of abandoned and then they say old McDonald

and sheep ranch are extremely windy because they're higher up and they're like just fully exposed and we've got those basically three still coming. Right, we're playing sheep tomorrow. Playing sheep tomorrow. It's going to be windy. But yeah, I think it is,

I just think it's really interesting to talk about how most people that are listening have at some point played like an Oceanside course, right? It's a goal no matter where. It might be, you know, Kiowa area or down there. I'm like kind of the lowerlands. It might be on the west coast in Southern California, Northern California, like wherever.

But I just think that this is, to me, very close. It reminds me of more Scotland than almost anywhere in America that I've ever been. In that, like the rugged terrain. You know, it's not plush fairways. Like you said, it's not, and it's almost, it's beautiful, not in like a gorgeous way in like a raw, like real way, you know. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree.

Right, in the way that like a lighthouse is beautiful. Yeah, right, right. That's how this is. That's how, that's what I would compare it to. Yeah. Because it's beat to shit. Right. By the elements.

Yes. But you could, that wear and tear, there is a beauty to that. Yes. Yeah, it's just simplified down to like, not the bare minimums, but like this is the golf course. It's not done up in any way. And the weather is really part of the maintenance and obviously a lot of the difficulty. But the weather, in the way it treats the land basically makes it that way.

way and it is like yeah go out and try right it's not done up in any way and we're not going to protect you from it right like they're not going to help you right like good luck seven inches near right like you play trails yesterday those trees are very nice but like out here you're not protected anymore yeah and you know it yeah you know the bunkers sort of just carve their own way through the land and they spill into some of the land and it's just sort of all like you said it just is what it is almost to a degree instead of like we're going to make this perfect for you right it's like no that's just it's out there you've got four and a half hours now and whatever it is today,

that's just what it is, good luck. Right. And so it's definitely, it's such a different vibe and all that way than Pebble, you know, again, which if you're going to compare somewhere to like West Coast Close Close, it is very similar, I think, to Cabot. I agree.

I think you and I talked about that a lot coming in. But, but yeah, Pacific Dunes is absolutely stunning. I think our drone shots and everything are going to be. I can't wait to see them. I can't wait. We had some yesterday with the birds. Oh, my gosh. God.

Well, we hired a drone operator. Rocco? You have the card? Rocky. It's in my room. Rocky? Yeah. Bad ass, dude.

He's a badass. Dude, he also does. So we hired a drone pilot. I'll go get the card. We have to read off his information. We hired him for one day of this trip. We hired him for the first day of the trip. This guy's not real.

Dron pilot. You know more about him than I do. He's not a real person. I don't know much about his background. I'm just letting you know. He also was a real pilot. He flies airplanes. Was he in the military?

or we were just making that up because we thought that he was like an assassin. He has the confidence of someone who like he's just not that like the confidence that a regular person doesn't have. He's fit. He's good looking. He looks like he could just snap my neck and just by snapping his fingers. He goes personal. Super nice. Basic. And what I was telling Riggs Trent was like it's amazing a guy like that exists out here. Like we're at Bandon Dunes in Oregon in the middle of fucking nowhere. And a guy happens to be so accessible to us where he just is able to to fly drones, give us batteries, like everything we need for this specific job and trip. This guy, this guy Rocky just, like, lives here.

And he's the best at it in the world. So the name is Rocky Johnston, CEO. And listen to this card. I mean, it's metal. This is a business card. It's a platinum business card. It's a platinum business card. It looks like those PGA tour cards they give those guys.

So it's PAC West Drone Services, the power of perspective. So you can go to PAC. Westdrone.com. It seems like he has jobs all the time. Just here's just so you've seen wild life. There's turkey that are walking towards those deer right there. Too much for me to handle right now. You've got a fisherman there too.

Yeah. Do you think they're out there saying, hey, look, there's humans in there? I don't think they have brains. No. They don't have brains, though. What? You think they have minds? Souls?

There's a difference between a mind and a brain. Consciousness is different. Consciousness. Yeah. Not really no. No? Not really no. There's no difference?

No, I'm saying, they don't. No, they're not like, oh, like, it's a nice day out. Oh, it's 14-7. They're like, uh, nose and I just sense plants and they walk towards the nibble. I think there are animals that have consciousness and like I like, I like dolphins. Dogs. Yeah, dolphins. Dolphins.

Dogs. Dogs get sad, happy, excited. Yeah. I actually think there's research that says that's not true. Oh, what? I'm just saying. Don't ruin. Okay.

really that can't be possible when i walk into my house like my dog knows that i'm like he's excited that i'm home maybe not just specifically me your dog's excited that the person that feeds him is home right that's what the research would say right yeah but like the dog's not necessarily i never mind never mind what i don't know it for everybody no i was i i don't actually know like if this is true that he that dog's excited not because it says oh my gosh frankie's here it's that oh my gosh this is why I get my food so you don't think your dog doesn't care about you

you don't think dog owners know that or can tell it there's a difference between the way their dog like receives them as opposed to like a stranger like when a stranger walks into my room like my dog's barking at them like who are you what the fuck

not that like feed me and when we walk in it's like but how about like when a dog doesn't see their owner for a long time jumps into their arm right that's where I'm like you're wrong oh this person that used to feed me's back. But he's getting fed every day.

You are. No, I'm just saying, I think this is what, no, I'm not. You were going to be on this. I didn't know Trent was a bad person. I'm not, I'm saying that I think that's what, again, I probably read it one headline. I probably didn't even read the article. Would it say dogs don't like you? Something about like dogs, don't feel the emotions that

you think that they feel. Wow. Ooh, this is getting but. Is that it, boys? Wow. Anyway, Rocky Johnston. I just got two ad reads. Packwestdrone.com. He's a fantastic dude. So he was just,

he was doing things with his drone that we just can't do. He's a pro pilot. He turns out, he also is a pro pilot. He flies his own plane. According to Google, oh, go ahead.

No, no, I'm like, I was saying, oh, like, I don't want to hear this. This is good for you. Oh, good. It's bad for Trent Ryan. He hates dogs. There's nothing about dogs. Dogs even have the hormone oxytocin,

tocin maybe, oxytocin. That sounds right. Which in humans is involved with feeling love and affection for others. Okay. I was wrong. Like I said, I probably read one headline.

And then I decided to say that I know what I'm talking about on this podcast. Like you know the dogs like Luke from Rockville-Lanks? You don't think those dogs know like specifically Luke and like and that dog that right next to him doesn't like love Luke and know him compared to like us walking up to him. I hope I want that to be true. It's got to be true. Like we're watching. We're witnessing it.

Dude, like supervisors, like, uh, superintendents at golf courses. We all see them with their dogs. Supervised the turf hop. They were out here this morning. Those dogs know their owner and they know and like they know exactly what's going on. You know what I mean? The way they fucking just like, come on and they just hop on the cart. What?

Oh, they know that who feeds them? Yeah. I'll feed like anyone will feed a dog. Yeah, but they don't have it pre-program that like they don't, they get the excitement knowing that person gets them what they need. You just read that. No, I'm just not even defending Trent now. I'm just saying I think that.

Come on. Yeah, come on. Yeah, come on. Let's get on the side. Because right now I'm on an island that I woke up on. I'm like, oh, no. With the same neurology and chemistry that people have, it seems reasonable to suggest dogs also have emotions that are similar to ours. Okay.

See, that I, that statement I disagree with. Seems reasonable to assume. Is that what they said? To suggest that dogs also have emotions. So the one headline you read, you think that they know concrete evidence that dogs don't have feelings. I will say that I should. Concrete evidence? I should reveal the source, it appears.

Uh-oh. Feels like it's a slam against Frank here. Modern Dog magazine. You read Big Dog? Yeah, yeah. It's like Woof, Woof Magazine. It says that dogs are God. You don't walk them, they walk you.

I'm going to die on the hill that dogs get happy and sad and they have emotions. We're going to Rocky the drone pilot. Yeah, Rocky the drone pilot. What is it again? Pack West drone services. Pack West drone services. He was turning off his sensors on these DJI Mavik 2s, which like amazing sensors, all the technology that stops you from bumping into things, essentially turning them off so that he could fly a hundred miles an hour, just graze the grass on these very hilly and moundy fairways. And he would like ride these fucking turns down these fairways.

The footage from, and this is not a knock on our guy, Jonesy, who's been killing it on the drone work. Amazing. I mean, I've watched him fly his first drone when we did behind the greens. I just handed him my drone. I'm like, I can't do that right now. You have to do it. And that was the first time he's ever had the sticks on. He's been amazing ever since.

The kid's a very good learner. But I think the difference between what you see in the future at Trails versus any other video we've ever done is going to be drastic. There's a couple videos. are shock he filmed these birds I mean it was national geographic shit he went and found birds flying around and like droned them and then he's flying with a flock of birds a hawk attacked it and he was like perfect in that situation too so

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Yeah, well, that's another level. It's like, what are we even talking about? How do you come up with an idea and like, and then you end up reaching the millions of it? You know what I mean? Of an actual product. Like, oh, we started with this one idea of this one thing. And now you've got to, now millions of people are getting it.

15 million meals. No, I know. But that's like, yeah, no, I know. Right. How about millions of people who listen to our podcast? I agree. But that's like audio. It's like something.

You're talking about a physical product. You're talking about a physical thing. Like, oh, I made this. And now I got to make millions of them because millions of people have them. That to me is like mind-blowing. They have this one little thing here. It's a prototype. And now I've got to make millions.

You know what it is to make one of anything. I can't make anything. No. You got to make millions of them. We got to make a golf club. Do you imagine if we try to make a golf club? Dude, I was thinking today we were playing in this win. You know, because I kept thinking like, Link's golf.

They always talk about the wind and Scotland and the original, you know, golf. and like old and young Tom Morris and like the mid-1800s and how good they were and they were the best of the good they were shooting like they were playing with clubs that were a joke like his hickory pathetic even before like really and then the golf balls were like sewn together

and they had feathers inside of them and they're going out there to shoot and like break an 80 at the old course in this kind of windage like what? Yeah what the fuck? Anyway shady race You talk about this meme picture by the way Caddy has a shady rays on which I appreciate

shit. I always noticed shadows on this thing. Who edited this thing again? Garrett put the shadows on there. That's insane. We have, I mean, you've got to tell them what you're looking at. Intern, Gary. All right, so there's a picture that Lurch took of Trent just on the biggest mound of sand

that's ever existed. In one at Pacific Dunes. It looks like, it looks fake. Like, when would you ever notice any sand dune like that ever on a golf course, right? If you really think about it. He's on a mountain. So we put it up on Twitter. You can go find it on four players.

it's on Instagram. And then Garrett, who has the worst name on the world. Garrett's his shit name. Our intern, our graphics guy. Great guy. Horrible name. Put R2D2 and fucking C3PO in the sand with him. And then the more I look at it, he like put these shadows in as if they're actually in the sand with you.

It's insane how good of an edit this is. I had to shout him out. I can't believe he did that. Yeah, his shadows mimic. rent shadow. But to even think like that is nuts. Yeah,

it is. Right? Like, oh, it'd be funny enough if he just put C3PO and R2D2 in the sand because everyone

would laugh, but like he actually made it look like it's real. That's fucking stunning. I had to shout that out. It's a really good job. It's as good of a job as it gets. Shout out to Garrett.

Shout to Garrett. Oh, we have to come up with the name. We said we'd come up with the name. No, I think we stick with Garrett now. Yeah. Because it's so bad.

No, no. It's just so bad that it's like, right. Garrett. We call them rat. Rhett? It sounds like you just spit in my face.

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You can get two pair for 48 bucks. You use the code 4, F-O-R-E at Shadyrays.com. Can't get over this at it. I think Garrett's. Yeah, it's like, Garrett's. Oh, Garrett. Somebody text Garrett and say, I can't believe that edit.

I just want him to know. He might be sleeping. Probably. Oh, he's making fucking edits. He's putting shadows down. He's whipping up shadows. He's putting shadows on pictures. I see him around the office and he's just the nicest guy in the world.

He is. He is. Super nice. Like, I feel like we probably say that about a lot of people, but he really is. I see him. I'm getting water and he's like, hey,

I'm like, hey. And it's just very nice interaction every single time. And he is incredibly talented. He's got like a welcoming, like, smile fate. He's a Midwest guy. Yeah. He's just got me rattled.

Michigan? I think if I made that picture, I don't know if I would have thought of the shadows. And that's like, I got to be better. When I saw that, I'm like, I can't believe he thought about it. He's so good that he's got you questioning why you're not that good. And I didn't even attempt it. Like, he's making everybody. He's in a pretzel over here.

Making everybody up their games. Yeah. When next time you have to make something like that for Dave, you got to think about everything. You have to. Yeah. Well, it's like the time I had, we did a pizza review with. Stone called Steve Austin. And I stopped.

I actually edited the video down to three minutes and 15 seconds. Oh yeah, you got roasted. It could have just been 316. And like, everyone was on. Everyone was like, but that's just a level of thinking that, like you're like, no fucking way

would anyone think that, right? Because the video was four minutes and 37 seconds long. I edit out all the shit that like, the long pause. whatever for Instagram. So at the end of the day, you're rushing. We did the review at 2 o'clock. It's got to be out by 6.

So I'm like, cutting down, cutting down, cutting down, export. You throw on like that last swipe thing. It's like swipe up to see the full video. That's like four seconds long. And at the end, it's three minutes and 15 seconds. You're not even thinking. You just export it. You don't even look at the fucking time.

We put it up. The first comment's like, brutal to end this video at three minutes and 15 seconds with Austin. Oh my God. the video might have had 150,000 likes and the comment had 100,000 likes. Right. And then they were like,

how does Frankie not end this video at three minutes and 16 seconds? Right, because in an alternate universe where you do end it at 316, all the comments are, I see what you did there, Frankie. I see what you did there, Frankie. And it's just everybody loves it.

Genius. Did Dave ever say anything about it? Yeah, he's just like, you're an idiot. I think he texted me like, brutal mess. I was like, I just didn't know. I don't know. I just wasn't thinking, like, who would think that? After you see all the comments, you just get a text from, Dave.

It just says, brutal. That's where you're just like, I've got to go. I got to get some fresh. And then you didn't eat or sleep for a week after that. I still think about it, clearly. Yeah. Talking about it right now. Yep.

All right. So, any other. So people know, like I said, we got banned in the next couple days. Three more days, really. What is today? Monday. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, they abandoned.

And we're going to play, obviously, the other three courses. Any expectations? Any... I would say if I had any expectations, they were whittled away today. The wind is the thing that's like... It makes it so hard. So hard. So when you're on just playing a regular course in New England or whatever,

and your swings a little off for a couple holes, you can kind of, like, dial it back. But in this, if your swing gets off, sure, then the ball gets offline, but then you're trying to find that swing that can actually work within this wind. And that's just a constant effort the whole time. And it just makes it so, so hard. Where you're like, all right, I think I hit that one pretty good.

You look up. And then you see it start the tail a little bit left or right. And you're like, I mean, that thing is way off the green. How am I even going to come close to making a bar here? Yeah, the approach shots really, if you're not flush and dialed into the wind, you're like 30 yards short and right or left. Right. And then Trent actually was just like when we were making comments about when people think about the wind.

He's like, that's the fifth thing I think about. Today he was like, that's the only thing you can think about because when you're hitting an approach shot in, it's like, all right, I'm 100 out. You know, maybe it's a 20, 30 mile an hour win from, like two club win from this distance. Do I just like nuke a 56 at it? But then that's climbing in the wind coming back. So do I try to get crafty and like punch a pitching wedge up there low? And it just, it's never leaves your mind.

from like okay the goal of this shot is obviously to get as close as possible how do I do that the win is the number one problem with me doing what like accomplishing my goal it becomes the only thing right to the point almost where like what club you take doesn't matter right it doesn't even matter right like and when I say that I mean like a lot of times you like in between with your you and your cat or your playing partner you're like man is it a seven or an eight this is that's not the conversation it doesn't matter in any way so it's like well what are you going to hit like Right. If you, they're like, I don't care if you hit a fucking three iron, or if you hit an iron iron.

How are you going to hit this? Like that's all that matters, how you hit it. Right. Not like what you hit. Right. Because it doesn't just fly up into the sky and then tear drop next to the whole. Like it's just how is it going to pierce through the, how are the elements going to fuck with it, not fuck with it? And to the point where even on like multiple par fives today that were way downwind, I remember hitting like five woods off the teeth.

Because I can get there no matter what. Because it's so downwind. Right. I just have to keep it out of shit. shit. And all the shit isn't play now because it's downwind. So the ball's just never going to stop. Bunkers here insane. They're wild. Because the wind's blowing a lot of the sand out. So sometimes it's just like rock hard. Sometimes you're in a pocket where there's a ton of sand. And yeah, it's just, it's difficult. And also I feel like the air is damp and moist. So the sand is pretty

heavy here from what I like, you can't just like open up the club face and pop it. And open. It doesn't, at least for me, it has not worked that well at all when I'm in those things. My expectation for the upcoming courses is to hopefully see a little disparity. Yeah? disparity amongst what we've already seen today at Pacific Dunes. Like, I don't want every course now to look exactly like Pacific Dunes.

And I don't know. I'm sure you have the answer to that. No, because we're playing in my R.C. Brands, I've never seen. Okay. I've never played it. I've, yeah, I haven't been on. So tomorrow's going to be brand new for me. I do think that the other, in my opinion,

old McDonald looks, old McDonald and Bandon, I would say both have significantly different. Oh yeah, we got to look at, we got to look different. Yeah, we got to tell it looks different. Jared Ocaddy was like,

that places the moon. Like it's just, yeah, it looked different. It's crazy. Old McDonald's crazy. The greens are wild. There's never one flat line on that whole golf course.

Dude, it reminds me a little bit of like Sabat. Green's to it. Oh, yeah. I think they're better than that, way better. So, Karen, but I mean, they're crazy. Yeah. Like, old McDonald's greens are, you're going to see someone. I'm like, there should be a fucking clown spitting the ball back at me at the end of this pot.

There should be a windmill in the middle of the screen. Like, there's no reason why this is on a supremely nice elite golf course. So, yeah, I'm very good. So obviously Thursday show and then the, yeah, we'll probably do Thursday after we play band and we'll probably, or no, I guess we won't have play band it. people will get our funny reactions to the courses. But I'm obviously excited here and we can discuss forever, like the differences in the courses. One thing I haven't brought is I want to paint a nice picture for everyone of last night.

We play trails. We have a great time. And then it's about 6.15. And we grabbed a handful of beers. And we grabbed the caddies and the whole production crew. And we went and played their 13-hole par three course, the preserve, which the best course on the property? Yeah. It is.

That's what I said. It's got to be up there. That's the best one out of it. Yeah, I mean, it's a question. It's got to be. It's got to be. It's the best course I've played so far. It's crazy.

Going back through the pictures that I took at trails and at the do, at Pacific Dunes, and then you look at the pictures we took at the preserve. And it's, they're 10 to 15 times better. We played an outrageous lighting. Right. Jared was like, oh, well, you caught it at the perfect time. Like there was really no one else out here. Sun was setting everything.

I was like, that just factors into. to when you get to, like, I don't know when the next time I'll ever play trails is. Like, we walked those first couple holes and I was like, those were some of the best holes ever played. And I don't know when I'll ever play. Those get in my life. Right. And so it all factors into it.

And when we caught that par three course and played those holes, I mean, it was the most stunning, most breath-picking, most outrageous experience of golf that I've ever seen. It was, it was naughty. I felt like I was doing something wrong. What are we doing out here? It's almost like you slipped into heaven for a second. Right. Are we supposed to be here?

I don't know what... Right. The sun, when the sun hits like a lynxy style where all the mounds and the hills are all perfectly going into each other, when the sun hits that on a coastline like that, especially on the west coast where it's all just, there's all the shadows and that like orange sun is coming in. I don't know that there's a better setting in the world. Yeah.

Right? Like you can put any other setting in front of me. You can put like Banff, right? Isn't that in like, British Columbia? There's settings in the world where you're like, I can't believe I'm here. When you see a golf course like we saw yesterday at Preserve with that lighting, I don't know if there's a better view.

And there is better views in the world probably, but like that's up there, man. It's up there of like beauty and like, holy fuck. Look what we're looking at. It was mind blowing. We're also doing the thing where every person was taking photos. Right. And that's in every hole

And you just kept saying You're almost out of phrases Where you just be like Holy shit dude look at this Holy shit dude look at this You just kept doing it the whole pot We watched people today go up like the trails Because Bannon has like trails for regular people

Not golfers but to like walk around Civilians? Civilians regular people Like not psychos that fucking ruin their lives With this game This horrible game we like to play That's NARPs That's what we used to call

The college NARPs Yeah not athletic regular people Yeah. And I was saying to him like, yeah, I think this is like a destination type of trail area with how amazing the views are and like all the undulation of the trails and stuff. And then I don't know that anyone gets a better view of the golfers than the golfers. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah.

Like you're right. You know I talked about that a little bit today. Yeah. It's just like these amazing trails like that these regular civilians like walk, right? Like they don't even come close to as good of a view as we had today. on like the 14th. Right. Like our walk is better than there.

Yeah. Way better. That's what's amazing about this game is that like the best views of this planet sometimes come on a golf course. Right. It's all about the walk. Right. Regular people that don't play this game don't access these insane views.

Think about like. Like if you went and played pickup basketball with people, but like your court just like moved along the coastline. Think about like, what's that area in Ireland? What is it like the cliffs of like Moheer or something like that where like people travel the world to go to these cliffs where like that's on the fucking water and all the fog and like we we like experience like a mini version of that like all the time on these like coastline golf courses and like people aren't talking about that they're not like well you are you are yeah but not not enough people are

are talking about it do you agree yeah i mean i think part of golf some of the most beautiful places on earth like you can see from golf courses and then also be on that property and like experience that view and walk and the experience the cliff part is interesting where it's so beautiful and you would think that like you're saying there normally be a destination just to like see that one time like when i go to ireland eventually because i want to go on 50% irish shout out the irish i want to like go to those cliffs and i'm going to be like all right like hand me my five iron like yeah now what you know oh my ball didn't fall off this cliff now i I have to try and hit it on to a green, but instead I'm going to just be there, like, looking at it.

We definitely see more beautiful landscapes than the average person if you're a golfer. 100%. It should be a major deciding factor as to why you should get into the game. Because, like, when you travel to these amazing locations in the world, I genuinely think that a lot of the awe-inspiring, amazing views come on a golf course. You go to, you go to Santa Monica. There's outrageously good views, I'm sure, on 17-mile drive and all this. Not Santa Monica. Montere Peninsula.

Monterey Peninsula. You go to Monterey Peninsula for vacation. There's amazing views on 17-mile drive and all that stuff. You can do that as a non-golfer. But walk down six and seven for me one time in eight. Like that's, you can't access that shit unless you're playing Pebble Beach. Right. And like you just said.

The view on eight is. it doesn't get better. Especially if you hit a good three wood and you're like up close or hybrid or whatever. I've hit a par on that hole so I was just... Right on the edge.

What was it again? It was a three wood from the back tee and it went right to the edge of that first fairway. Hit a six iron left to right breeze pulled in a nice six iron from the left to the right, hit the back of the green, missed the put

but tapped in for a par. It was a nice par. A lot of guys there in the U.S. Open would kill for that. They would. They would take those shots. I think the average score was maybe like over par during the U.S. Open on that hole. Right.

So they would have loved. Remember Spieth, Greller had him in the water and then he had him over the green. Yeah. So average. And then nine and ten and just, yeah, that whole stretches. Plus you just described like an hour and 20 minutes of your day. Yeah, exactly. Like you're also like, oh, yeah, that's really sweet.

And then you get to do something fun. And then you be like, oh, this is still really sweet. Whereas like the other cool views that you get, you drive there, you get out of your car, take a couple pictures. And you're like, all right. that's great next thing four four through ten is two hours yeah right think about some of the best moments on like road trips where you're driving and you're on the car and you get a peak of like water and like cliffs you're like oh my god did you see that like yeah no i'm gonna go golf right there on that cliff that you just pointed at and i'm gonna be there for seven hours and i'm gonna smoke cigars

and drink beers and have the best time and play a sport and play a sport like actively play a sport and try and win and like it's awesome so i yeah i should on golf a lot of the times but when you talk about the travel aspect of it, they really doesn't get any better. It should be like your main reason to get into the game. So I'm actually texting a good amount with Hank from part of my take about this because he's getting so into golf now.

I think he's been getting mad at our Instagram stories. Yeah, I'm sure. He saw our Instagram stories yesterday and he wrote, this is unreal. And I didn't take it as like, oh, this is unreal. Like he was like, it went down as he said. This is unreal. Like, what do you guys?

Like, where are you? Dude, like Ryan Whitney just had to respond to all my Instagram. Yeah. I think he was just like, like, what a fucking picture he just couldn't believe he's like oh my god but you're right

that the preserve felt like you're like heaven like there was almost no responsibility or obligation or like we didn't have to we even have to hit the kind of shot so you don't like to hit you never had to hit a driver

into the way it was like we're just like we even like a lot of times we have like six seven footers and our little matches were having be like you just want to go good good and just go out of SD you like absolutely And it must be like this is what it's like when it's all over and you just get to go choose what you do all day every day.

The preserve would be it, I think. God, it's so good. The preserve is so good. So much fun. And well, is it like known as like the best par three course in the country or no? Like is that, is there a ranking system? There's not that many, right? I don't know that part three is a relatively new to the game.

Right. And I don't, they don't get like the recognition, right? Because I don't think they get the class. I mean, that's number one for me. Because I was going to say that it's unbelievable. The cradle is outrageous. You love the cradle. You're there for 100 days, 99 days.

I don't know that anything can get better than the preserve because also the way that the ground is, like, you know, the greens don't get punched down as much by all these balls and getting pelted into them. And then you're able to hit off grass too, right? Like a lot of the places have mats because of how much play is there. Like the way that they are able to set it up here with this ground and this, the way that the preserve is, it's. Well, there's also just an unlimited amount of lamp. Like, cradle is right there. And, like, you can only move the T-boxes, so many spots. You could see every hole when you're on the cradle.

Here, you could move them wherever you please. Yeah, literally, whatever. Dude, I said to Dillam, when we were playing the preserve, I'm like, is this just a golf course? Right, it is. Every part three course I've ever played, you see what it is. You see where the holes are. When we were at Forest Dunes, you knew where the next one was. Dude, we were, like, walking.

Couldn't see the next hole. We were walking paths to get to the next hole. I'm like, is this a golf? How many holes are here? He's, like, 13. I'm like, this a golf course? Do you trick me on it coming on to another golf course? Also, the driving range here has a, and someone, I think fucking Jake kept using the word

complimentary par three, but they have just an extra, as if like other par threes get the paypoint. You actually said, we got to stop using the word compliment. Yeah, like it's a breakfast. It's a complimentary part three. From 815 to 930, they're serving a complimentary par three on the driving range. But no, there's a par three, which I think this is the coolest thing I've ever seen. They have a par three whole.

at the driving range for you to go practice like a par three shot like how awesome is that to be able to practice that like see where it's actually gonna end up yeah I can't believe other places haven't thought of that well they just have the driver range

there's flags out there right like that flags 160 but it's different it's a real green it's like bunkers and you can see without lands and you're on T-box like there's nothing else my idea

that I said oh I don't even think I've said this audibly. I said this to you guys and we did it in the video, but someone DM me that my chipping game is so bad and they heard me say that I'm really good on the short range when I'm chipping, which is true. There's footage of it. I'm going to tweet it out that they got on the drone of me just nipping and flopping wedges on this practice screen as I'm talking to someone, like not paying attention. And then I go on the course and just it's missiles and people are ducking and putting on helmets. But someone said, well, if you're so good at that, why don't you do this and why don't you take a bunch of balls out of your bag when you're playing on a real

course and just toss them next to your live ball and maybe it'll trick your brain into thinking you're back on a practice range and you'll chip that first ball perfect you'll pick up the balls and you'll throw them in your bag and you'll be on your way we don't know if that's a swing aid in pGA tour rules i don't care um because i tried it and i'll leave that up for the video to decide if you guys don't have to watch a video see if it worked but watch the um yeah so it's It's just funny. I don't know how I got to this point, but oh, because there's just a difference between like knowing that you're at a range hitting at those great. Actually a hole.

And then you're on the hole. So like I'm definitely going to be hitting that complimentary part three tomorrow. Just to get my, just to get your nerves ready. Just to get the mental side going. I agree with that because it is, it's hard on a range for normal people like us to dial in a target Out of range. I think that's like hard. Because if you mess up, you just swing it.

Like if you mess up, you're just grabbing another ball. Like I'm just trying to. Yeah, and you have really no, you don't even know if it went where you're aiming at. Like you didn't even know what you're aiming at. Oh.

There's a lot of just like mental justifications too and you hit it. You just on the range. Yeah. Pelt one. And it's like drift into that you're like the flag you weren't even looking at. You're like, oh, not that's kind of what I was trying to do.

You made a comment today when we were getting ready saying, because I was trying to hit greens on the driving range and you're like, this isn't about that. is about getting warm. Yeah, that's, yeah. Is that how you approach every driving range session? No, but like early on, like, I'm just trying to get the first couple swings and just trying to get the rhythm and the tempo and the swing speed about the same.

You know, so like the first couple and I, you know, tired, like, I used to just grab seven iron and just, just crank it. Yeah. And now I always start with a wedge and just take it easy into it. And I like that approach way better because it's just easier on everything. You take like a 56, hit a bunch of short chips, and then you warm up to like a seven iron, and then you pelt driver and kind of go through your own.

I will say I've learned a warm-up routine is much easier to, like, commit to and feel good about when you're just hitting it well. Like, I mean, it's like I thought that I had this thing kind of when I'd been playing really well and hitting it really well, whereas, like, I'm going to hit three pitching wedges and then like three seven irons, then three four irons and then three drivers.

And my justification was like, wedge obviously gets you loose and going, and like, wedge is pretty easy to hit, so like, whatever. And then like seven iron You should be able to hit us A couple solid mid irons Good, we're good

And then four iron I always go with Because it's like If you can hit a long iron off the ground Like you're you're okay You're gonna give you able to get You're like you're gonna be able to get through the day At least in my eyes You can hit a fucking four iron

A nice four iron You're my hero It's so true And so is like Am I you specifically You can hit a good four iron So yeah On occasional shots

I look at Lurch and I say That's my hero it's a hard club to hit hard yeah it's so hard and then look for a fucking two iron on this trip that was amazing and today it was like

you've been using it yeah he used it three times today it looks shit I took the 52 out of my bag it's got that crazy it's got that crazy shaft orange like orange yeah it's crazy orange

siren every time you pulled out seriously today it was like I went to the seven iron part and I was trying to hit this new I'm trying to hit it lower and figure something out because of the wind and all that

dude I was like skanking him and barely getting off the ground i might have hit 15 seven irons it was like i just can't we can't go with this right like the last thing we're doing we can't stand over a ball today on that golf course and think that this is what could happen that just can't be a thing and then you're all out of way i go oh fuck what we need to the point where like ladies like i'm gonna mic you up now and i'm like i need a couple minutes yeah i can't stop right now like you don't get what's going on over here so it's we have a gaping hole yeah that's right like the game is a gaping hole right now if we don't plug you're not

it's going to be a problem. Is that going to be the title of this podcast? Yeah. Oh. Gaping hole abandoned? We can't do that. I think it's just got to be abandoned, dude. All right.

Something easier on the eyes. How far do we want to take it? Yeah. Nasty. A nasty email from cross-section mortgage or something. I think I've told a lot on this podcast, but I think it's a good one is to play the first hole several times until you feel comfortable.

Yeah, with the different clubs. Right. If it's driver nine iron, hit driver nine iron to get like that shaft length difference and that comfortability in that first hole, so you feel good about the first two shots. Yeah, I like that. I dig that. It's my one leave.

That's good one. Thank you. It can be a little frustrating, especially if you're in a hurry or running late, to find yourself at a railway crossing, waiting for a train. And if the signals are going, and the train's not even there yet,

you may feel a bit tempted to try to sneak across the tracks. Now, this is a real thing that people do. Trent, you feel that way? I don't personally feel that way, but I know I have watched people attempt this. I'm sure in Iowa too those are trains go forever. Ten and fifteen minutes.

Was it a country mile train? Country what? Right? Yeah. It's a country mile train I think they call it. I've definitely been stuck behind a train for a very long time. Ten when I was late. What's that? I've seen a train for like ten minutes. Oh, it's been longer than that. Half hour. Oh. Yeah. No. No doubt. Yeah. Never seen horrible bosses. That's how much you just drive into the train. Never seen horrible bosses. Caboose is coming. Right. You get excited when you see the

the end of the train. Sometimes people will get so sick of waiting that they'll just turn around and try to find a different way. I was on my way to get to the Arizona. I was in Scottsdale back before I even started Barcelona on a vacation. Great spot. Great spot. I was on my way to go to the airport. We were already late kind of like rushing to go return this rental car. We stop, you know, because you're supposed to stop when you see the train tracks come down. When you see all the alerts right in front of your face, everything's blinking. You don't try and beat that. You don't try and go through it. it you wait now i didn't know that um this was going to be a 25 to 30 minute experience we sat there

we watched the entire thing and you just do that that's like you're not going to try and go through these barricades and these they're there to protect you and your life a train is coming okay let's not let's not mess around with trains wait the 30 minutes if you have to wait it or turn around like go another way figure it out but just this is insane that people are trying to beat these things To the naked eye, trains often appear to be farther away and moving slower than they are, but they cannot stop quickly. Even if the engineer hits the emergency brakes right away, take a train over a mile to stop, over a mile.

By that time, it's too late, and the result is potentially a deadly crash. If the signals are on, the train is on its way, and you just need to remember. One thing, stop, trains can't. Again, please stop, trains can't. That's from our very good friends at NHTSA, the National Highway Safety Traffic Administration, they again would like you two understand that you need to stop because trains cannot. I've got shin splints.

That's something I'm dealing with. I also may have the beginning of turf toe. You should take your shoes. I mean, everybody else has changed. I don't know what turf toe is. I just know that whatever was happening with my big toe today,

just rubbing inside my shoes, wasn't good. And I definitely have shin splints. It's a walk out here at Bannon, guys. And we talked about it. We talked about this. And Riggs tried to prepare us. you know,

Trent mentally prepared for weeks. Well, I'm going to regret what I say next, but the walk has been great so far. The walk has been great for me during the rounds. Like yesterday I was fine. I felt healthy. I felt good.

I felt active. Even after the round I was good. After the preserve, I was good. Today during the run, I felt good. It's like right at the end and right after, boy,

does it just, my dogs start yapping. My non-happy emotional dogs. that Trent claims are all dogs, just start fucking screaming at me. Right. When we played trails and then when we also did the preserve later that day, my step count was at 22,000 that day. That's a tough 202.

Which is a lot, which is over, that's 11 miles of washing. Tough 22, man. And that's what we all did. So you guys were all in the same boat. And then today is probably around 15,000 or so. And I still feel pretty good.

But again, I think I am going to eat my words here over the next couple days because I'm going to be sore my feet are going to be hurting my legs are going to be hurting but so far through the trip I've really enjoyed walking I don't think I'm tightening my shoes enough I think you've been sliding a little bit that might be true these G4s the MG

well those are brand new because United they're brand new no they're all my G4s are amazing I fucking love G4 they're the best and they're so good that I literally slip them on in golf yeah right like I literally open these up out of the box I undo the first two things like on the top just to make my like what I'm going to need to tie them, I slip my foot in and I tie the top and I'm on my way.

I don't do, like when you lace them up in hockey boys, you know, you do the whole fucking, you know, you do the whole tighten you want to go in. I don't do that with sneakers. And it is coming to help me right now. Yeah, they're so comfy that you don't even think about getting them real tight. Because they're sneakers. They're essentially sneakers. Those are.

I mean, the MG4s are phenomenal. They're amazing, but I got to tighten them, man. And I'm really, really regretting it, man. I got shin splints And I possibly have turftoe The beginning of turfto But you don't know what that is No

I think I've got turfto Dude we had an audio technician with us Because it's so fucking windy out here You wouldn't hear a thing We'd come all the way out here You wouldn't know a goddamn thing that we're saying Not that you want to know what we're saying All half the time

But you got to hear a little bit What's going on The chatter Still it might be tough God no apparently it's pretty good And we have these different audio technicians I guess it's a They're a company

I would love to shout them out because we were shouting out Rocky Top. But today we had a female helping us. I think her name is Hannah and she was, and you forget that people are listening right there, the audio technicians. And, you know, I mean, you literally have a mic directly to their ear.

So she's just listening to every breath. Right. I didn't know that part until I looked at her and she had those like bows and I can't say head. I was like, and she like snicker lap and I was like, oh my God. Dude, I'm probably...

Everything I said today. Yeah, but Trent and I were saying, dude, there's a lot of points on the course, especially when you're walking, where you hit a bad shot. Your caddy goes, you go off to your own mind to the left. Oh, boy.

Dude, you're walking over to your ball. Like, you motherfucker, you fucking sock. Just to yourself. Oh, yeah. For sure. And this is... I thought you're doing it to yourself. No, you're doing it to yourself.

No, but that's what I was saying to him was that... Because you hit a bad shot. You're saying, you, you motherfucker fucking piece of shit. And she probably thinks that you're being really mean to the caddy behind his back. But I'm really laying into my... myself for the shot that I hit to the point where I wanted to go over there and say that to her, but I didn't.

But you don't think about the things that you just say under your breath after you hit a bad shot. It's dark time. I had to apologize Saturday. At one point, Lurch hits a drive. Like we've never seen before, a low missile rising cut through this ridiculous 40-mile-hour headwind. And I just go, oh, Lurch, make me squirt. Yep.

And that's just... Immediately I turned to her. I'm like, I am so sorry. You said to her, do I have to sign a waiver? I said, this was on hold two. I'm like, I forgot, is there something I got to do? Because I don't know. I say things like this.

Like, I don't know. Sometimes I, like, I'll make a putt and I'll just moan or something. I don't want this day to be ruined for you. So we ended up getting through it. I was actually, I was pretty good today. She was cool. She was awesome. Yeah, she was good.

She doesn't have the chance to like make a noise to be like, oh, like halfway through your sentence because she's got noise can't see the headphones on that are just thrilling or years. So she's listening to each of our audio tracks. Oh yeah. All the time. You got to go crazy. She's exhausted.

Just not even that like the things that we're saying, but like when Riggs and I are walking and talking and then Lurch and Frankie are walking and talking, it's just like it literally sounds like you have voices in the matrix. Right. Yeah. I think she's just listening to hear if they're peeking and if she has to, yeah, it's tough. The audio technician. The audio life's not a fun line.

Dude, a big one for me is I'll just be walking alone. I remember nobody's around. I'll just go, what the fuck are you doing? Right. I'll say that to myself. What the fuck are you doing? She's taking that the whole day. And one of the reasons I bring this up is because she heard me walk up to each person, kind of tap them on the shoulder.

And I was just like, towards the end of the round, I'm like, hey, man, like, I think I'm developing the first stages of turf toe. I was like, I don't really know what turf toe is. And like, I talked to five to six people in our group about it. Like, you know, caddies. Right. She's like, here he comes with a more turftoe. You said to me, Frankie said to me, he goes, but he just opens up with that. I don't know what he was talking about.

You were the seven person I wrote it up to. He goes, he goes, well, Hannah's probably heard this six times today. But Trent, I think I have turf toe. Because it finally hit me. I'm like, man, like, I'm talking to just one person, 300 yards away from this audio technician person. But she hears every word I'm saying. So I've also seen you move from like one person or next. And she's like, oh, here it comes again.

Dude, we were standing watching like rigs hit. And I like hit my caddy on the arm. I'm like, dude, I think I'm getting turf to her right now. Then 10 minutes later, I go over the trend. I think I'm getting turf dough. She's sitting there just shaking her head. Like, what the fuck, man? I wish she screamed enough about the turf talk.

KW Productions. Is that what it was? Okay. Yeah. Based out of Eugene, you know, great people who, uh, fuck, what was the guy's name yesterday? Andrew. Andrew, unreal audio technician. We have him again tomorrow.

We have him again tomorrow. We got Andrew again tomorrow. He heard horrific things. I think we were letting it loose a little bit more with the guy. the guy around. I was squirting all over the place. It was nuts. So, I mean, you know, when a guy's, when a guy's listening to me, whisper sweet nothing to his year, I'm letting them rip, man.

Yeah. But, yeah, no. They're great. KW productions, you know, we get really lucky when we come to places like this. We got really lucky with Rocky Top. We got really lucky with Andrew and his team over there. So, yeah, it's nuts. When you, we come to just a random place and there's just people that do the thing that we need.

It's nuts. Yeah. Like, I would never think there's. like audio people abandoned dudes. I'm just ready to go. No. Thank God we have them because our audio's come out. Do we said like Rocky like came out of the clouds?

Like that guy's not real. He's also a, did we talk about how he asked if we wanted to fly his plane? No, I thought you were going to bring that up of like kind of crazy we didn't bring it up. Well, Jake Bass, you want to take it to fly? Dude, we're waiting for my fucking bags, right?

Trent, well, Trent, you're the one that kind of noticed what was happening with this Rocky Top thing. Um, well, I saw, I could sense. I told you guys the information.

Oh, you did. Yeah, because Jake told me. Anyway, this is a horrible way of explaining it. Our bags are in Eugene. Well, we just explain it backwards. Our bags are in Eugene, Oregon. They didn't make our flight. They were getting on the next flight.

We're taking the loop. You already heard this. We took the loop from Eugene to Bannon Dunes. Our bags were getting to Bannon Dunes to Eugene when we're already abandoned. Two and a half hours. We're not going back to get these golf bags. We can't. It's impossible.

United Airlines says, we're going to get these bags on a bus tomorrow or some sort of van, and we're going to bring them to you by your tea time. We're going to get them on an 830, an 830 shuttle,

and we're going to bring them to ban. And we do this four times a day. The guy, look to me in the eye and said that. I said, you need a better fucking solution. I didn't say it to his face. I kind of muttered it under my breath because I was so frustrated.

I'm like, you need, yeah, I'm not going to say it to his face. Like, if this happens four times a day, we need to have a meeting. Someone needs to have a meeting. You guys have to have a work deck. you got to ping somebody this solution you should get your bag fees refunded if you don't if your bags don't show up 100 i mean i'm going to be getting everything bags no but i'm saying that should be like

little do they know but they're going to be paying for my golf shoes like i mean i they're like i'm just sending them the bill of all the things i needed yesterday um anyway all right they're getting there at 830 uh they're going to they're going to get on the shuttle 830 they're going to get there by 1030 so we end up moving our tea time to 12 we're like perfect let's go we wake up yesterday morning we're expecting our bags to be on a shuttle. I can't get through to anyone. The Eugene airport, nobody's there. I guess if there's no flight coming into Eugene, no one goes to work, right? I guess there's no need for them. So just no one at the front desk for hours. We're like, where are these bags? They didn't get on the 8.30. Turns out they weren't getting on it until

930, we were told. I'm on the phone with people at call desks in different countries and they're not understanding what I'm saying. I'm not understanding what anyone else is saying. I'm not getting through to fucking anybody, man. Where are my golf bags? I just want to hit some golf balls at this trip, man. And turns out we finally get in touch with this guy who's going to be driving the shuttle from Eugene to Bandon. His name's Scott.

And I called Scott, what was it, 35 times? It couldn't get through to him, man. Every time I hit Scott's phone number, it went straight to voicemail. Now, that probably was because he was driving through bad areas of Oregon. Terrible service out here on the way from Eugene to... No service. Yeah. at all, non-existent.

And then we find out that we finally get in contact with Scott, who's supposed to be bringing our bags. Trent and I are waiting in the parking lot, as if this guy's going to be here in two minutes. You guys are at the driving range. It's crunch time. For our tea time. We're like, oh, shit, Scott's got to be coming here at 1130 because they said 9.30, 9 o'clock leave. He's got to be here two and a half hours.

We're here. We're going to get our clubs. We're sitting at the place that he's going to be dropping them up. I finally get in contact with Scott. I go, hey, Scott, like, are you close? 10 minutes, 15 minutes? He goes, I don't know what to tell you, man, but I'm not coming until maybe tomorrow.

He's like, I've got... It sounded like you woke him up and he was in Russia. He goes, I don't know where you think I am, but I'm not anywhere near where you are. Scott goes, listen, man, this is tough to tell you, but I'm not coming. I was like, you have to go. What do you mean?

You've got myself. He goes, nah, like the guys who I work with, they're not going either. No one's bringing your golf clubs today, man. Like, just he, like, it was one of those moments where he's like, you now need to accept I'm not coming. Right. And I was like, okay, fuck me then, right? Like my gaping hole, Scott.

I know it's not your fault. It's fucking United Airlines as well, but God damn, I needed a little more information today. So we're freaking out that this is happening. And Jake Bass, our lovely producer, comes over to Lurch and he goes, dude, our, Oh, I just touched your inner thigh. You did. It was nuts. Gently touched it, too.

Man, what a podcast. Oh, and I touched your fucking thigh. We don't get together much clearly. That had to have made you feel something because that was a tender touch to the inner thigh. Didn't make me feel anything, but I was like, ooh. Exactly. So the situation you just explained led up until about noon. About noon.

And then we're going to do a little bit of time traveling and say that a couple hours before that we found out from Lurch a bit of information that could have. helped us out way earlier. Jake goes up to Lurching goes, you wouldn't believe this guy Rocky who's going to be flying our drone today. They guys out of this world. Lunatic on the sticks. I mean, the guy's outrageous. He was even offering to fly his like prop plane over to Eugene and get your guys golf bags. Isn't that insane? Now I will give Jake the benefit of the doubt. He did not know that our bags had not gotten on a bus on a bus yet out to abandon. He thought they He thought that they were already on their way. He thought that they came the night before.

So he was like, dude, this guy even offered to go get your fucking golf bags that they were still there. We found that out at like 11 o'clock when we're grinding to get these bags. We're not getting answers. 12.30 time. I'm like, Jake, like, how the fuck did you not tell us that this guy was going to fly a real plane 13 minutes south or something, wherever it is east? I don't know, fucking wherever. And he was going to go grab these bags, put him on his plane, and come back. turns out like the weather wasn't even good enough for him to be able to fly anyway.

It would have been a fantastic video. I think he's actually trying to take you guys out on Thursday. He told me that. Yeah, he said for me to email him and we'll figure out. Are you going to do that? I'm going to fly with him. If we lose your lurch, it's been real. It hasn't been real fun, but it's been real.

Well, Thursday would be. Thursday would be your last show. I'm getting on a fucking. Thursday would be your last show. Thursday would be my last show. Yeah, we'll record it Wednesday. We'll say bye. We'll say bye.

No, I don't think he's got a Cessna, so he can't. Anyway, it was crazy, man. I mean, he was very serious. He goes, yeah, I'll just, if I can get the bird up in the yard, we'll get your guys. He's a no bullshit guy. We're talking a 30-minute process of him going to get our bags. Yeah. 13 minutes there, grabs the bags, puts them on the plane, flies right back out, back there in 13 minutes.

Crazy. Absolutely crazy. Shout to Rocky. Didn't do it, but shout to Rocky. Right. All right. We will have band in part two coming up on Thursday. I gave a big shout to Kevin Kisner, who came up to Pittsburgh

and was just the biggest hero of all time. Awesome time. Obviously, we played well. Obviously, we were going to win. We had Kevin Kisner on the team. He was a 35th playing player in the world. How have you been dealing with all that backlash? You know, you said you've won, and a lot of people are saying,

when you play with a pro. Amateur tournament. Yeah, I'd be like, yeah, that's like kind of the, that's the gig. That's what it was. Yeah. Right. That's how I would answer it. Yeah, no. It's got, no, it's just like, because you did win. You probably played well. I watched your scorecard. You definitely played well. You were tied with Kevin Kisner through three holes, which is pretty crazy stat.

I will say I did play really well, but also. You'll never get the credit, though. That's okay. I don't care. Okay. I don't need the credit. I will say that I... You wanted the credit a little bit. It's your classic. You wanted it. One thing I got a little bit screwed by was, kids, there were a few. holes there were like two holes in the front nine where kids and I both birdied them and everyone's like well Riggs didn't even really help those I birdied him and then kids just picked up which I love he was like oh wow but in

that actually like and maybe you would have made him maybe he wouldn't right but like I wanted on that front night then the back die and it was like I shot six over in the back then right and kids obviously was one or two under but yeah I mean I would have liked a little more credit it would have been sweet if I played with a normal person and we still won right that would have probably been in terms of like street cred because everyone's like yeah you could i mean kids literally would have qualified on his own right it's like me like winning a home run derby with aaron judge as my partner right totally it's like a little it's like a little yeah well yeah you got the best

home run hitter in the league on the team yeah we're like drunk yeah got cut from varsity baseball did anyone even come close to you guys or no yeah there were a couple teams that were like we won by two shots okay two shots but we were i mean we were four under through three to start And 600 ended up like qualify. So it was like, we, no, we was never even close that we went. And on the back. And there's no way you could have like, oh shit. Like, like when you're playing with your buddy, you both put one into just like, you're both like iron down a double.

With kids, it's like. There's bogey free. Did he hit a bad shot all day? On the back night, we started to get a little banged up. He was bogey free. He had like one. The one, there's, there are two back to back really hard parts. threes and he he missed the green on both of them and got up and down both times but he also

you just said bogey free so it's like any bad shot he hit didn't compound and it was just like oh yeah I kind of like miss little right but then I just hit a wedge up there to like three feet made the puck I look at my scorecard I'm pretty like I came close to going bogey free today like just bogeys oh because you have like I double so many fucking pars and so many doubles that I almost went bogey for me. I had two bogeys today. But to Kisner's credit, he hit me up like,

he's a big planner. So he hit me up like seven months ago or eight months ago and we put the Barstow Classic when we went live or whatever with it. And he just texted me. I was like, when are we playing in the classic? And I was like, do you really want to play?

He's like, yep. And I was like, all right, you want me? You just like send you the schedule? He's like, yep. And then he looked at this schedule. He goes, oh boy, this isn't be tough with the dates.

but like give me two days, I'll get back to you. And then he literally picked Pittsburgh and was like, all right, we're playing in Pittsburgh. And that's so huge. Like it wasn't like I had to track him down. He didn't ask for anything. He literally showed up and was just like, let's do the Barstville Classic. He was taking pictures with everybody. He was having a great time.

He was chirping people. And he played great golf. So it was incredibly fun. First time I ever played in it. One and O. We won the entire thing. He had a great quote that the PGA tour pays better, but the Barstow Classic is a lot. lot more fun.

He had another one, too. Shout to cross-country mortgage, where we were doing the ad read for cross-country mortgage. And then he hit the shot, he hit the shot or whatever, and then he turned around. And he's like, yeah,

we're doing it for the mortgage. What is it? Cross-foot. And he goes, I don't know, I don't have any mortgages. That's good. Not an ad read for kids. No.

So it was great. He's the man. I'm like emailing cross-country mortgage. I was like, hey, man, I bought four sleeves of golf balls today, do I need to change my loan status? And

does that get me into another like, does that knock me down a tier? Because I need to know now before I swipe this car. Kids is winning playoffs and clear 1.2 mill. He's like, I don't have enough money for a house. Just wait one week until next once.

I'll be able to buy that. Right, I'll figure it out. He doesn't have Chris sending him messages on cross-country mortgage. I'll tell you that. No. But yeah, him and his crew, Tom Pack, like they were unreal they were troopers they're on camera the whole day dealing with our BS and they were just awesome

so it was a ton of fun how was okamont okumont was fantastic it was hard lurch just played it it's hard it was your first time ever playing no we went there like three years ago or something we played it once summer's brothers I saw them yeah great hard and the like

was today hard compared like so totally different right today's hard because the climate the weather is just makes it hard there's hard because the course is so hard like it just that that's the it's so hard that if the wind picked up there it's near you just deem you can't play golf today like even if it's like five miles an hour dude because the greens might as well be just just marble so what would you rather play given the i would rather i'd rather play here because

if the wind stops i have a chance there if i play i just can't break nine The greens are so stupid. They're so stupid. They're really, really difficult there. So we had lunch before. We're sitting on the 18th hall. And I'm like, I've watched a couple people, they go long. You just can't.

There's no way to get the ball close to the hole if you go land into the rough. And I'm like, all right, I just can't go long, can't go long. Get to the 18th hole. I think I need like a six or something like that to break 90. Like not an outrageous, gorgeous, I have a shitty hole. And then eventually, I think I'm my. four shot or maybe I had to make a five I had to anyways four shot I put it long and chipped it and it went like 30 feet past the hole and I think I hit a pretty good it's so the greens make it I would say almost unfair we yeah it is it's just hard it's very very difficult they got a lot of rain so luckily it was playing like as soft as it could possibly play but still you're hitting puts that just every putts outside the hole right you have a four footer and it's like a lot of times like two cups outside the hole and you're like okay this is has to snap in or else I have another three-footer that moves that a lot.

So that's just demanding Teter Green. It's obviously just really demanding. Eighth tolls, 253 part of five. Yeah, yeah. I made an unreal part of it. Literally hit it to eight feet. So how did Kiz play there? Kiz there did not get off to a great start.

He literally was, he was in a cart because he got his balls sniffed like a week prior. Oh. So he legitimately, the first swing that he took, he goes, oh, I think I felt something tear. And then just the rest of the day, he was swigging like so daintily until he started to get a few kind of drinks in him. And he started to loosen up a little bit. But he was like, you don't understand how bad my balls are.

And he's trying to like play Oakmont. I mean, at a certain point, you got to stop playing golf. Kiss firing them blanks, baby. Let's go. You know what I'm saying? There you go. So this is the first. Staying home now.

First time he had played since the deal. But yeah, it was fantastic. But yeah, it was fantastic. We sat in their swat room afterwards. I had a bunch of drinks and just had a great time. That's good. Fantastic spot. Pumping them.

Lovely. Pumping them. All right. We're done here? I think so. We've got to eat. We got to get ice cream. Yeah, we're going to get some ice cream.

It's going to be nice. We'll be back on Thursday. we always are. Cut it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Good it hard.