Fore Play - Behind The Greens: Military Golf Stories

Episode Date: July 1, 2019

On this edition of Behind The Greens, we hear from a ton of veteran and active members of the military, including Captain Cons from Zero Blog Thirty. From running into moose on the fairway to firing golf balls off of submarine decks, and finding out which base has the best golf course, this episode is a great way to get your 4th of July week going!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Happy 4th of July, folks. It is 4th of July week, of course, and for 4th of July week, we have a very special show. We heard from several, several military folks, servicemen and women. Well, it was all servicemen, but we would have heard from women if they called it. Great stories about golf, about what they do, their jobs in the military. We have Captain Kahn's on as well from Zero Blog 30.

I got to tell you, some of this stuff is utterly fascinating. Blue our minds, blew Frankie's mind many times. Many times. Your mind was off the planet. I mean, it's just, I was there in another league than I am in life. Like, I just felt like I wasn't able to speak to them. Everything they said I didn't understand. Every question I asked, I felt like was the wrong question, but that's just because they're

better than me. Frankie felt very inferior during the word. During the show. And it's, you know, you're going to see. It's special. It's a different kind of show. It's a special show. And some hilarious stories, some great stories, some very meaningful stories.

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it's 4th of July week. We're all on vacation. As you're listening to this, we are on vacation. You know I can't handle this. I know. I knew it. I shot Frankie a look. I was like, just don't worry.

We're not on vacation yet. We're in the future, but we're just not there currently. It's Wednesday, June 26th. That's what day it is. It's 650. It's really today. See, today. He tied himself up.

Honestly, we should have, July 3rd. Today's July 3rd. We should have done this part of the show when you went to the bathroom. When you came back, we would have been good. Frankie can't handle it. No. Happy 4th of July, everybody.

Earmuffs, Frankie. Happy 4th of July, everybody. We got a very special show. Obviously, the military, the U.S. Armed Forces, the U.S. servicemen and women, U.S. America would be nothing without them. We are unbelievably appreciative of them, their sacrifice, their hard work, their commitment to this country. And there's no better way that we could think of to honor them than to give a voice to many of our armed men and women, whether they're current active servicemen and women, whether they're vets who have golf stories,

from bases to just playing in their stations. Stations? Where are you all stationed? You know you're going to hear that, Trent. I know. I hadn't prepared for it, but now I'm prepared. So people are going to have been stationed. You need to ask everyone where were you stationed?

Yeah, I will. It should probably be your question. Okay. So what we're going to do is, it's behind the greens. You know, it's really similar to behind the scenes. That's the little spin on that joke. Do you get it? Do you get it, Frankie?

So it's behind the scenes, but the golf version, which would be behind the greens. Behind the greens. That's right. It's exactly what it is. We haven't done one of these in a long time. We've been on the road. A shit ton. We were at PGA Championship at Page Black.

We were at the United States Open, Pebble Beach. We've been playing a lot of golf. We've been going on golf trips. So we haven't been able to do one of these in a while. It feels great. We got the phone lines. They're filling up. We got a bunch of folks, a bunch of listeners out there who are calling in that have some

great stories. We got a bunch of emails from them. So we appreciate everyone that sent in emails. We cannot get to everyone because we just don't have time. But we tried to pick out some of the best ones. I'm sure we missed a bunch of good ones. There will be more behind the greens. shows do not do not fret do not worry but let's rip through these let's go through the calls let's

hear from the uh you know our our military folks whether they're currently active whether they're vets let's hear from them golf stories let's have some fun let's just rip through these is this uh am i going through one or two line one going through line one we're going to have start with i guess steve from orlando steve you there hey what's going on phyllis what's up man how you doing Oh, I can't complain. You know, just watching you boys get that award last night. Congrats. You know, I really do appreciate that.

Thank you. We got a Dunkin' GoTo Award for the Meet Your Heroes Award for, of course, Tiger Woods coming up and being our best friend. So that means a lot, Steve, I really appreciate it. Steve, were you impressed when I guessed your name earlier? Absolutely. Yes. Well, I just, I really felt the greatness coming through the phone, and that's what's important. That's great.

I mean, I feel great. I felt great. I nailed it. going to ask your other question now. Steve, where were you stationed? Oh, kind of all over the place, but yeah, just kind of referring to my email. I've golfed from Guam to Alaska, Italy, but, you know, you can golf in Alaska at 1 o'clock in the morning, which is always a good time.

Very cool. Golf at 1 o'clock in the morning? Oh, yeah, midnight sun. That's like an Arctic thing. Is that what's happening? It is. It is up in Fairbanks, Alaska on Fort Wayne Wright. You know, my brother played junior hockey of Fairbanks, Alaska.

And he used to tell me they'd go outside. They'd throw like boiling hot water up in the air and it would just freeze and then like shatter. Or evaporate. Oh, yeah, minus 65. Minus 75 minus 70s the norm up there. What? Minus 65 or minus 70.

So how are you playing golf? Not in the winter, you dumb ass. You have a two-month window in the summertime. That's it. I would ask that same question of you and ask them first. Thank you. Two guys. Two guys.

Mid-August, it's just minus 70. That's what you guys. Dude, Alaska, Alaska? It's a bad question. No, no, it's not. It's not. Alaska, anything, nothing's off the table. Like, if anything happens in Alaska, if they had been like, if Steve had been like, no, we golf in the winter and when it's cold and negative 60s.

I would have been like, yeah, he could have said like, yeah, there's no gravity. You got to walk around in like an astronaut suit. Lurch would have been like, wow, where do you get one of those? Yes. I would have believed him. I would have believed him. I would have believed him, but he was honest and he didn't hammer me like you. Steve, you're a great guy.

You talk about like Pacific Northwest Golf Golf. courses, like you may see some deer. You could see, like, a bear sometimes. When you talk to me about that type of... Anything but Long Island. When you talk to me about Arctic golf courses, I'm picturing like walruses sitting on the green. Igloos. Igloos.

That's the halfway house. Halfway house, they glues. People sitting down, like, rubbing their hands in front of, like, a fire. Marshall's like a polar bear. There's a fire on every tea box to warm your hands up before you hit your drive. You have to chisel in the tea with, like, a pic... With an ice picket. So, Steve, what's your, you got any crazy?

I mean, is there like a base course up by Fairbanks? They're kind of obsessed with base courses. Well, now, Steve, I'll be the first to say it because I have respect. Thank you for your service, Steve. Hey, I appreciate it, boys. Yeah, thanks for everything you guys are doing and bringing the real voice to the golf community. So we appreciate it. Thank you for your service, Steve.

Frank, you made a great point. Very much. We're very thankful. Thank you. Yeah, no problem. Yeah, up in Fairbanks, there's Fort Wayne Wright, which is an Army base. I'm actually a Navy guy, but I was stationed up there as a recruiter. But my crazy golf story was being on a – so I worked on submarines for a living.

That's awesome. And we would surface in the Middle Pacific and do a swim call and then break out some turf mats and hit golf balls down to the old Pacific Ocean, which is pretty abnormal, but awesome. It's beautiful. No way. Jump in the backgrounds. Oh, yeah. What's a swim call?

So you'll surface in the middle of the ocean, drop anchor, and just, you'll surface. and just kind of give everyone a little morale boost, let everyone get a little bit of sun because we're stuck on a submarine with no ladies. Okay. And, you know, get some sun, some vitamin D, grill some burgers, and get some golf balls into the ocean. That's unbelievable.

That is so great. Is there any chance you have any footage from that, or you guys not able to take any? So back when we did it, it was all no cell phone, not allowed on that type of thing, so I don't have any footage, unfortunately. Would you guys... You can Google it.

You'll see some pictures online that shows you some stuff like that. That is sick. I'm already doing like thinking about the promo for how awesome that is. How pumped do you guys get when you're going to surface? Like you guys, is it on the calendar forever? You're kind of circling it. Like, oh, baby, that day we're going to surface our asses off and hit a couple golf balls. Oh, absolutely.

I mean, you figure sometimes we'll spend 120 days underwater without seeing the sun. Oh, swim calls are exciting. What? 120 days? Oh, yeah, boys. Holy shit. That's outrageous. Hey, man, the blanket of freedom isn't free, you know?

No, it isn't. Do you just look at, like, do you just look at pictures of, like, the non-underwater part of the earth to keep yourself sane? Absolutely. A lot of movies, a lot of reading, and a lot of sleeping, just so time goes by fast. So what was your job down there? What were you doing on the sub? So I was a sonar technician, so signal sound analysis, and I did unmanned vans. vehicles off of submarines as well.

Signal sound analysis. So what, are you looking for stuff in the water? Yeah, absolutely. Like Jonesy off of Red October, if you will. Oh, yeah. I love Sean Connery in that. Sean Connery. Classic.

Oh, man, that's great. What, I mean, was you guys doing any, like, putting on the submarine? No. It doesn't stay stable long enough to let that happen. Really? I feel like it would be, my interpretation is it's just like, an underwater hotel? I wish.

It's more like 150 guys stuck in an airplane. Let me ask you. I don't be to laugh, but man, you really painted a picture. That sounds terrible. I mean, I'm looking at pictures of these swim calls, and you guys, it's just people jumping off the damn boat. Think how excited you get for a weekend?

That's five days, and you're still, like, outside, moving around, 120 days underwater in a tight area. Have you ever walked? I couldn't make it. No. I mean, right now I couldn't make it. It's hard to get through the doors.

The doors are small. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not strong enough. So when you, Steve, when you would, like when you would, when you would, whatever, identify like an enemy underwater, what happens? You'll put them in, you know, in, how, I don't know how to put this, you'll put a tracker on him and, you know, you'll man battle stations and stuff. Nothing's got to happen, the stuff's got to happen. I mean...

Can't say much, it sounds like. Yeah. I love that you can't talk about it. That was unbelievable. I'm picking up with Steve's putting down. Me too. Can't say much and I get it. Yeah, my takeaway.

What's got to be done is got to be done. We're on it is what he said there. We take care of it. I have a question for you, Steve. So I get like motion sickness like you wouldn't believe. I can't even get into a cab. I can't get into an Uber. I start throwing up.

My question is, like, when you enlist, right? Like, are you enlist? specifically to be in the submarine portion or like do they just assign you to that and like you have to become someone that's able to work the submarines? So the submarine service is the only volunteer service in the military. They cannot mandate you to put you on a submarine. You have to raise your hand to go on a submarine. Got it.

That makes sense because I was going to say 120 days for someone that just can't handle it. Like their service really isn't doing much because I wouldn't be able to sit down. I would literally be on the floor the entire time. My brain just can't stay level. It just can't. Steve, how long is the swim call? It's about six, seven hours. That's it.

Unbelievable. 120 days, you get six hours to kind of swim around with the boys. Get a couple golf balls. That's it. What was the coolest part of your job? Coolest part of my job. Just knowing what you're doing, right? The mission accomplishment is definitely the coolest part, right?

When you come back and you know what you did and then you get to see the fruit of your labor. down the road when it comes to war time. So it's a good time. What body of water were you mostly in? Are you not allowed to talk about that? I was a Pacific Ocean guy. I like the Pacific Ocean. That's the best ocean.

Yeah, that's the number one ocean. It's beautiful out there. Really cool. Hawaii's out there. Yeah, you see any islands? Any beautiful islands while you're out there? Oh, yeah. I mean, I was stationed in Guam.

Oh, that's right. Go on. Hawaii. I've been all over the place. Absolutely. Here's another dumb question. Can you just like see like fishes

outside the submarine? Could you see like a humpback whale at one point? Like just going by? There's no windows, man. There's no windows, that was a dumb question. I don't know.

It's not a fucking common cruise ship. Don't act like you knew there was not one window. That is yet another question. I'm glad that someone else asked first. Right. I mean, but you could see if you're a soda guy, you could see him on the soda.

Yeah, 100%. Like a back. You can hear them. Right. Absolutely. Right. So like a pot of shrimp is very loud, which is obnoxious. It sounds like popcorn popping, but they're very loud.

Yeah, absolutely. You know what I'm saying? Oh, that's got a call it popcorn shrimp. Callie Depp. Oh, man, Steve, Steve, Steve, he's awesome. I like Steve. This shit's fascinating. We really appreciate it.

Yeah, man. So how long you've been, you're not, you've been out? I just got medically retired a year ago. I did a year in Afghanistan, so that enabled me to unfortunately retire after that time. Well, congrats. Yeah, I appreciate it. I guess my question to you, boys, is why aren't you coming down to Florida with these tournaments there, Riggs? It's a great question.

I wanted to go way bigger the first year. There's a whole business team that said we don't know if we can even do one of these events, so we can't just start doing like 30 of them the first year. We've got to start smaller. We will be in Florida next year. That's my guarantee to you, Steve. all right well i will guarantee i will be there i got a spot for you don't you worry you find a good partner we'll get you a spot in the barstall classic in florida 2020 done deal

appreciate it boys thanks for your time all right steve thank you for your service we appreciate it man thanks very much thanks guys i mean good luck he was going to give us a hit it hard i'll just finish that oh okay he did great first caller great i don't know if you can start out better than that no real high submarine also man Did he expose how little we know about submarines? I was just going to say it is amazing to talk to somebody that you know nothing about. Nothing. All our questions were maybe 100% dumb, maybe on point.

I asked that there was windows if you could see the whales. But you did ask you. Frankie thinks it's a sight scene tour. But the one window? Why don't they just put one on there? The one question. See where the hell you're going? If you volunteer for being on a submarine, you nailed that question because the answer was like, it's the one area.

where you have to volunteer for it. So you read your yourself there. You did. Pinned golf was started by three stoolies from Boston that felt the game of golf is expensive enough and that measuring distances on a course is not something that should cost you $400 plus dollars.

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hardcore cover case and a free pin ball marker go out and get your range finder let's go to Danny hey Danny how's it going guys doing great how you doing I'm doing just fine thanks for having me on you know we really appreciate you calling in so we got to ask what's your you know affiliation what was your role in the military so i'm currently stationed at fort stewart which is just outside of savannah georgia and before that i was at fort wayndra right away from me yeah he snags trent's big question he's going to ask everybody where they're stationed that's my bad no it's all right it's good information yeah uh man so uh what's uh what's uh you know what was golf like or what is golf like for you as a military man what kind of stories you got

So my biggest story is going off of what Steve was saying about golfing in Alaska, midnight golfing is probably one of the coolest things ever. I would get home from work in like the middle of June when the sun's still up at like 8 o'clock at night. The on-post course would still be open that late at that time of year. So I would just go grab my clubs and go walk 9, get home at like 1030 at night if I wanted to walk 182. And one time I stared down the mama moose down the number two fairway. Whoa, now we're talking.

Now. Now we're talking Alaska golf. Moose are no fucking joke. They are. No fucking joke. You think you know how big a moose is until you see a moose either in person like this gentleman did or you see them next to some sort of car and you're like, I did not know how fucking big moose were. Also, moose are super aggressive to the point where they take on trains. Yeah, they're massive.

Have you ever seen one in person? They legit go. They run full speed of trains. You can be making that up and I'd still believe. No, that's a thing. thing. Danny, am I wrong? Oh, no, you're 100%. Tell us about this moose encounter and how you are talking to us on the phone right now.

Well, first off, I'm talking to you on the phone because I'm a very lucky guy. Second off, like, when you think about like bears too, whenever bears have cubs around, it's like as long as you don't mess with the cubs, then they'll leave you alone. But moose just goes straight, lying, king, everything the light touches is mine, and I'm just going to steamroll you because I can. And so I'm walking down the number two fairway at this off-post course in Fairbanks, hit my drive. Nice shot down the fairway. I get up to my first shot all of a sudden.

Moose walked out in the middle of a fairway and just kind of pick up my bag. It's like, okay, she can move along. Pick up a club. It's whatever. What club was I using? I just said pick up a club rather than the bag. Yeah, you're using a weapon. Yeah, sorry.

Oh, no, no chance. I was trying to keep my title list with me. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, okay, maybe the moose is going to move out of the way. It's just one of those days. And all of a sudden, two little cats walk out behind her. And I'm just like, oh, shit. She's just going to take a run at me because it's just 100 yards between her and I. And I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, about to get stomped by a 800-pound moose in the middle of nowhere.

And this is how I go out. Oh, me. Pretty much somebody from the clubhouse piece was tapping in. They just wheel out. out like hell on wheels with a golf cart. A whole lot of air horn. It's just, I don't know what they were doing. Just like drive by the moose and just start screaming this air horn at this thing.

The entire time I'm standing there, like, I don't even know what I'm supposed to do. Like, you can't get away. Well, I could get away. But if I run away, then I'm leaving the person in the golf cart to just kind of like get stomped by a moose. That's great. They whip around from the moose after screaming an air horn at it. Come back. Tell me to, like, get in the cart as quickly as possible.

And we just booked it back down the number one fairway to the clubhouse. Jesus. With the moose. What is the moose's reaction to an air horn? What happens? Do they run away? Sometimes they run away, because that's a big issue you run into in the ranges when you do gunnery on your vehicles in Alaska. It sometimes they'll run away.

But most of the time, if you're doing gunnery, you have thermal sites. So when the targets pop up, they have little warmers on the bottom of them. So they pop up real bright in your sights when you shoot at them. Every time Moose will just go behind the target and just fall asleep. It doesn't matter if you put an air warrant in its face or not. But sometimes they'll run away. Sometimes they'll stay. And sometimes they'll just chase after you.

It's really like a hit or miss with it. Holy shit. Daniel, let me be the first to say thank you for your service. I don't know anybody else. I don't know if we were going to do that at the beginning or the end. I was the first one. Well, I decided to do it.

I just thought you guys would be curious enough. No, go ahead, Frankie. Well, no. I mean, I was going to say like mayor of Moose's, the mayor of welcome to mooseport great movie we're talking about mooses great movie oh unbelievable movie ray romano there's a moose running around all over the place great great movie 5.2 out of 10 on i oh no so uh what was your role like oh i'm sorry not the role i had another question after we talked about that what do i do now in the army no so no you talked about the uh they just called it a on post

golf course is that what you called it yeah so like how do those work is it like um Is it like your general golf course where you walk up and make a tea time? Like there's a ranger there that's like making sure everything's going well. They have like driving ranges and stuff. Or is it like essentially just like a lot of land that's basically for you guys on the post to just like go hit balls around? Like is it is it a nice golf course basically? Yeah, it's kind of whether they're nice or not, it's pretty hair or miss depending on where you're at. But it's just like a regular golf course.

It's just on the base. You go up. There's a clubhouse. It's usually got like a little bar and grow. it's got a driving range, it's got 18 holes. Perfect. It's a starter depending on the time of the week. How often do you guys, like, able to play that?

In Alaska or just, like, in general. Just in general. Just go after work. I go, I usually, now I'm at Fort Stewart in Georgia. I go usually walk nine after work. Pretty much, like, three days a week, but it's whenever you're off, pretty much. It's open seven days a week.

I envision these courses, like fucking fighter jets flying over the whole time. That's exactly. I was trying to not be. be like offensive or say, I was trying to say the right things, but I was like, are there like, you know, bullet casings on the floors and, like, are you, like, do they just put these holes around the whole? I envision mortars going off. I'm a vision of barracks and like, you're like, a ball slips into your barrack.

Like, sorry, I'm just playing through. Like, I mean, this guy's saying it's a full 18 with a driving range, a clubhouse, hot dog. Sounds incredible. You can get pretty good at golf, though. I mean, if you're playing three times a week, you can really spruce up your game out there. Yeah, you really can. No, it's, I mean, it's, uh, usually they're not like, by the ranges or anything, usually your ranges because all the golf courses are usually

right next to all the housing areas on post. So usually the ranges are, you know, a couple miles away. So like if you're doing like a night shoot or something, you're not keeping, you know, the entire world up throughout the entire night. But I mean, depending on the post, like I know the one that I'm at now, it's right by like where the aircraft fly through. So, or especially the one in Alaska was right by the airfield. So anytime like Apache helicopter come in, or like a regular cargo plane, it just fly straight over the course because it was on the final approach to the airfield there. That's incredible.

So, Danny, what's your current gig? What's your current role in the Army? So I'm a captain in the Army right now, and by trade, I'm a tanker. Tanker. Wow. Sounds awesome, man. Hi. It's pretty sweet life.

How far can the cannon shoot on a tank? accurately about two and a half kilometers you can't tell you that mile yeah yeah I'm sorry I can't tell you miles off the top of my head damn holy shit

that thing I mean what's it take to take out a tank it's almost a mile and a half what does that even mean more than a moose I'll tell you that yeah more than most those things I feel like those things are unstoppable

nowadays those tanks it takes it takes a pretty good shot and a certain part of the tank because now that you've got, because all tanks have kind of slanted armor on them, so the rounds can kind of ricochet off or they just don't go through the penetrates steel as much.

So it takes a certain type around, it takes a really good, accurate shot. That's amazing. They really just thought of everything. You just kind of slant the armor a little bit. It just goes, shoof, fucking things got slanted armor. Just like Fury. Sunreal, man.

It's crazy talking to a guy that does this. Like, it's just a better person than I. Like, I just cannot believe you're driving around something with slanted armor so that a case something shoots out. Frankie's going to enlist by the end of the show. It's just, I'm like, I'm just blown away by these people that were saying. Me too. They're calling into our fucking podcast.

Like, what the fuck do? I'm sitting in a room talking like about my, my five guys order, which I'll talk about later. I mean, I had an absolute horror story of five guys tonight. Absolute horror story. Why don't you just tell it right now? Well, Danny's here. He can chat. I'm ready for it.

I've worked in the restaurant industry. I've dabbled before. You know, I worked at this place called Borrelli's Italian restaurant. When you're in the service industry... Who's taking that place over? Let's not talk about that right now. It needs a mail air. When you're working in the service industry, sometimes things like get on your nerves, right?

Like, if I was like, if I was waitering and someone was like, can I please get the spaghetti and meatballs but no meatballs? Like, you want to answer back. So you just want the spaghetti and meatballs because you don't want the meatballs. Because you don't want the meatballs. So why did you even say that? So like little stuff would just get on your... on your nerves and I understand that but I'm at five guys today and I see the guy up front taking the orders and I could tell that he's getting agitated by people at work today I just tell

that he wasn't in his best mood and he was giving it to the people ahead of me there was two there was these two women in front of me and the lady goes yeah so I guess an order at five guys is all the way it means everything that's on the menu you want right so she goes can I get a cheeseburger all the way but can I just not have lettuce and tomato on this so he goes so now he gets really really aggravated. So, do you want it all the way? Or do you want?

And then he rattled off everything. Or do you want? Yeah, it goes, Mayo ketchup, cheese. I'm like, oh, man, she's getting it right now.

So I'm, and she's like, she didn't understand. She was a little older. She didn't understand what he was fucking saying. She's like, I want it all the way,

but I just don't want this to. And he's like, I don't think you get it. Like, do you want it all the way? Because you're saying all the way. So that's one thing. Now, do you want extra? She's like,

I just want this. And so he ended up just like smirking at her and did the order. So I'm like, this guy's going to be a trip. So I walk up to him and I'm like, Frankie, all you have to do is say you want a cheeseburger with what you want and you're going to get out of here. You're hyping yourself up. So I said, hey, man, how's it going? Can I get a cheeseburger? And all I need is cheese, ketchup and pickles.

And he responds to me. He goes, do you want the meat and the bun too? Or I'm like, I said, I laughed at him. I'm like, now, come on, dude. I just, I was like, what does that mean? I immediately got really aggravated with him because I had. just watched what he did. I'm like, now, what does that fucking mean? He's like, well, I don't know. He's like, I don't know, because you said you wanted a cheeseburger, and then you said you want to the cheeseburger, I was just, I know, I ordered the cheeseburger. That's exactly what I said. I'm like, okay, yeah, I ordered a cheeseburger, and I said I wanted to the cheese, like, yeah, I want the bun and the fucking meat, too. And he's like, okay, and he, and he, like, responded like that. He's like, you want fries and a drink, you? I'm like, are we going to fight right now? Are we going to fucking fist fight inside this fucking five guys? Because I will. Like, I'm going to lose this fight, but I'm going to

bunch you're right in the face right now. Not in defense of the guy. I wasn't there, but I have been to, I've gone and gotten lunch with Frankie Borelli before. One time he ordered a tuna melt at a place that we went, and the guy said, what kind of bread? And Frankie said, toast. And then the guy kept being like,

but what kind of bread do you want? And he said toast. And he kept saying toast. And to the point where I actually thought it was going to get physical that time, too, between Frankie and the guy. So I'm not saying that. That paints me as a guy who gets in confrontations with people in the service. Oh, that really does.

It really does. I'm not. This guy today was a fucking idiot. And he was mean and he was. And I, so I facetimed, I was facetiming someone after. And I was like,

And I was like, I understood that. I know, white and we didn't understand it for ourselves. Three minutes. I didn't understand that. I thought toast was an option. So,

um, and I'm facetized on, I'm like, look at this fucking guy. I'm like, he's up there doing it to someone else. And I saw him give like that, well,

do you. And he's doing the shoulders and the hands and the options. I'm like, this guy needs to be put down. He needs to be fired on the spot. And I walked out of there steaming man. You were steaming man. You walked in here.

The moral story is that that shit means nothing when we're talking to these people. It's a guy like Danny. Because this guy's riding in tanks. So, I mean, my cheeseburger could have came the wrong way. It doesn't really matter. And we got Danny out there riding in tanks. Danny, we very much appreciate it, man. Hey, thanks for you having me, guys.

All right, thanks, Danny. Keep up the good work out there. Thank you for your service. We appreciate it. Have a fantastic 4th of July. You guys ever seen a moose before? You guys, too. Thank you.

Just in the moose, that movie. Welcome to Mooseport 2004. I've seen a moose. I have too. I saw a moose that had brainworm. I think it was either brainworm or ringworm. Up in Maine, we were lake canoeing. And this moose was just sitting by the lake, like, licking the water up with his tongue.

And literally we kept like paddling closer, paddling closer because it just was doing nothing but just lapping the water up. And so we were like, something's wrong with this thing. We were literally like 10 feet away from this moose just. lapping the water up. They are so freaking big. But I guess what we did, we called the game warden. And he came and basically put the thing down because I think he put it down because it had brainworm, which basically is a worm that goes inside your brain and then eats your brain away.

And then it just was like this mutant body. Well, the moose I saw was just, we were up in Canada. That was a horrible story, Lurch. Yeah, Jesus Lurch. And the moose that we saw was just crossing the street. And everyone on both sides had to just sit there for like 10 or 15 minutes while this. Moose started to get on to the street. Then he just chilled there and looked both ways at different cars.

A couple of cars started to back up being like, this motherfucker's going to charge at us. He kind of chilled there, looked both ways, and then kind of sauntered halfway across the road, chilled again. There was even like some grass sticking up, and he was like kind of like nibbling and like messing around and like trying to figure out what he's doing. And it legit took 10 or 15 minutes because nobody could drive by because the thing was so goddamn big. Neither side of the road could drive by. It was like a traffic jam on both sides. eventually kind of walked off. Cars started going really slowly by

and then speeding up afterwards and went by. Thing was massive. Because what they do on highways when you're driving up in Canada is they sit in those little valleys between the highway, like north-south or whatever. And so when you're driving, you should actually look for their eyes because your headlights will kind of see it on the outskirts of the road.

And if you see it, obviously you've got a break. Right. That's what you look for is those eyes sitting right in the valleys on the side of the road. Okay. Oh, yeah. I got arrested after drinking at a bar called Moose McDuffie. Yeah, you did.

That was the bar. Yeah, you did. That's the infamous story of that. I was at Moose McDuffies. That's my only moose experience. You got super arrested. I've seen plenty of moose, actually. What's that?

I've seen plenty of moose. Nucle. I've seen tons of moose. That's right, because you spend like six months in the wilderness every couple of years. I did when I was growing up. I used to do some trips here and there. I used to spend, yeah. You're like bear grills.

No. Birch grills. I did spend, yeah. It spent 30 days. That's it in the wilderness. 30 woods. What is Frankie laughing about it? I have no idea.

Frankie's like in tears right now. What's up? Nothing. What are you laughing? You guys are just having the conversation. I just blurted out moose knuckle. You guys just continue to keep talking about. I wish I didn't even say it because maybe that would have just been a little Easter egg.

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So we get Captain Kahn's in here next. Captain Connor is, of course, named Captain for a reason. Now Kahn's your zero block 30. You know, I used to do a podcast together. People don't know that. People forget that the original trio was Chaps, myself, and Riggs. I think people do forget that. I forgot that.

My first podcast experience ever. I was just a political consultant on Zero Blog 30. You started out as consultant and you became the third host. That's how good you were. And people, people used to tweet at me and be like, I'm sorry, I missed it, Riggs. Like, when were you in the military? I was like, I never. Never said I was either.

Nope, and I don't really know that much about it. I'm just, I don't know. They just like talking to me, so I'm just here. So, Con, you're a big golf guy. Yes. You know, we're doing this show for all of our military listeners out there and who like golf as well. And we're kind of tying the two together. We're hearing about what people do.

Talk a little bit, first of all, about, you know, what you did in the arm. Sure. Real quick, before I get to that. though. I am excited that you guys invited me to be on your show because every Tuesday and Thursday I genuinely get excited to listen to Foreplay. Hell yeah. I think you guys and obviously we're colleagues or whatever, but I don't have to say this. So this is no gas. I actually enjoy your show. I think it's a great golf podcast. So thank you. I get a text from cons twice a week. What a nice thing. He texts me about the show. And I know he actually listens because he texts me about some,

a little nugget from the show. He puts in like a little info. Just like that. What do you listen to everything on like 1.5X or something like that? Two times. Two acts. Yeah,

I listen to so many podcasts. I have to go through them all on two acts. Do you sound like chipmunks? Yeah, but now what's weird is after you start, after you start listening to shows. Go fuck,

fuck, go fuck, scoffice, butter knives, butter knives. Yeah. After you start listening to shows on two times, if you go back to one times, it sounds like people are talking slow. But, and Trent,

Trent, I would text you, but you just don't respond to text. I don't. I'm not a text guy. Everybody knows that. That's not a dirty little secret. No, no, that's a public secret. No, but so anyway, I was an artillery officer.

So artillery is just what it sounds like. Big, huge cannons. We shoot them from very far away. We blow things up. So that's what I did in the Army for five years of active. Thank you for your service. Oh, my pleasure. Thank you for your service.

West Point, crowd. I didn't want to bring it up. I feel like it's brought up enough. I played football at West Point. I'm in the NCAA video game. It's not a big deal. How much was that check that they gave you? I got a check for $8.

$898. That's more than I would have thought. Really? Yes. For being in the game? Yes. Holy shit. Thank you, Ed O'Bannon. What did you do that with that $8?

I probably blew it on beer. Was there any difference between what you got and what like the starting quarterback got her or anyone else? Well, so here's the thing. It was one of those lawsuits where you had to put yourself, they didn't like come out and search for people. Right, right. So if you didn't go online and sign up to be part of the lawsuit, you didn't get paid out. But I definitely heard of other guys getting substantially larger. checks than I did for being a backup with a 72 rating.

72 rating, is that what it was? Not terrible, man. Not terrible. I thought he'd be like a 52. What was your speed rating? I don't remember that. I do remember my arm strength rating was my highest rating. It was like 92.

You bought the game and you played with yourself, right? Oh, yeah. So me and my buddy, who was the starter, he was my classmate, we would just play Army versus Army and be ourselves. Right. So that was pretty cool. I like that. So cons.

We're obviously here to talk a little bit of golf. Yes. Tied to the military. Yes. Give us your little story here. So I have a story from when I was deployed to Iraq. I went to Iraq in June of 2008, and the first place that I was was LSA Anaconda, Logistics Support Area Anaconda, which is 70 miles north of Baghdad in Balad, Iraq.

And one of the things that I was very fortunate, we had our own building for our platoon. So I would go up on the roof of the building, and my uncle, who was a huge golf nut, he sent me a little squared piece of turf, an old three wood, an old five wood, and just buckets and buckets and buckets of range balls. So I'd go up there in my free time and just smash these over the wire, just into the farmland because that's another thing. People just hear Iraq, they think it's all desert. Where I was right near the Tigris River, it was all farmland.

So I would just blast these balls and never think twice about again. Green farmland? Oh, yeah, it was green. There was, there's a house. Were they growing corn over there? No, mostly great. So I would be on foot patrols a lot of times And you just pick the grapes right off the vine and eat you know grapes are great for you

Mm-hmm I didn't really realize that yeah I was doing research a couple weeks ago More than any other fruit or just sort of all the same level you know I was looking there just like foods that people like that are really good for you and grapes is just listed really high They are kind of like nature's candy yeah right right I mean yep they're fucking great for you And who doesn't like a nice glass of wine too Correct true I mean it's a great point God So one of the things I would go out on missions all the time and I would be for Humvees And we would just go out and do a bunch of different things. Look for bad guys.

Look for weapons. What have you. So we were coming back from a mission one day. We're getting close back to the gate, come back inside the wire. And all of a sudden, a dude in a man dress, because that's what they wear over there, the dude in the man dress just comes running out until the middle of the road, waving his arms at my lead vehicle. Because I was in the second vehicle. My lead vehicle.

So we all stop. And I say, I radio up. What's going on up there? I don't know, sir. There's some dude screaming in the. the middle of the street. Maybe you want to get out and check it out. Yeah, it's got to be a pretty nerve-wracking situation.

A little bit because, you know, we had just come off probably a four or five-hour mission, so guys are tired. And he kind of spooked my lead vehicle, the gunner. He definitely almost shot him with the 50-cow. And if you take a 50-cow round to your body, it's going to blow a big hole in it. Right. So it's good that we didn't shoot him. So I get out with my dismount team.

And I start walking up with my interpreter. and here's a little nugget. The correct way, or at least the way I was taught, to speak to someone when you're speaking with an interpreter, is not to say, hey, tell him, X, Y, Z. It's you speak to the person as if you're having a conversation with that person and then just allow your interpreter to speak. Interesting.

So I walk up to this guy. I wonder if I'll ever need an interpreter for any reason. Probably at some point, I'd imagine. What if we interviewed, like, Hideke? I bet, yeah, I bet we have an interpreter. So you tell me when I interview Hadeki, I look right at that. that motherfucker and I just ask him as if you're speaking and then what you just sit there and look at him while the interpreter says it correct yes correct come on yes and you just like you just look at him

that feels that feels that feels polite it feels like exactly you're talking at the person right right right you know west wing they do a great job with the interpreter that's exactly how you have to picture it it's just like that except it's in person and not over the phone right all right so i walk up to this guy and jake just had a huge phone drop it was the most startling phone drop i've ever heard well he's just sitting still and then his phone just been flying out of his phone of all time. What was that? Room shook when Jake just dropped his phone.

It was like he was asleep and then woke up and his phone like flew on cross-loom. Whoa, whoa, what happened? Holy shit, Jake. Jake, get it together. Yeah, Paul. So anyway, I walk up to this guy and first thing out of my mouth, I say,

buddy, you almost just lost your head. We almost just shot you. And right when my interpreter then interpreted that, you could see his eyes like bug out. He was definitely scared because he didn't want any mess. So he says back to me, Oh, do you want to come in for tea? Dude, I just been on a five-hour mission.

I think that's very polite of you, but no, I do not want to come in for tea. Why did you jump out in the middle of the street? He tells my interpreter, can you please wait right here? I have something that you have to bring back to the Americans. So, okay, what is this guy about to go get? Is he about to go get some weapons he found?

Is he going to get some materials used to make bombs that he found on his land? He comes back with a big old basket that you'd probably see at a vineyard. full of bushels of grapes filled with my golf balls. That's amazing. So I've been blasting them onto his farmland. So he's finding all these golf balls probably cursing the Americans while they're doing it.

Definitely. So he gives me the basket and says, can you please bring these back to the Americans? And can you please ask them to stop sending them to my farmland? I'm like, you got it, pal. I'll let them know. I can't imagine he even knows what the hell of golf ball. No clue. No idea what a golf ball was.

Why are they like raining these little white bombs onto my problem? They're like wavering them, he's like watering them and like staring at them. Keep it warm. I don't understand what these are by the fire. So it's incredible. It's great though, because it's not like, you know, you got a range picker in Iraq that's going to like bring your ball. So I was relying on my uncle that just keeps sending me balls. So this was a great day to get about 100 balls back into my possession.

Great day. And then we went back that night and we just hit him in a different direction. We didn't bother that guy anymore. Smart. So you're on somebody else's farm. Right. Conz, you got any big Fourth of July plans? I'll be down the shore.

The shore. I just wanted to hear you say that. actually knew you were doing that. I just, we've never really had somebody say that on the show in a very genuine manner. Well, I'll be down the shore. If you guys are looking for something to do, I know actually you'll be away. Wisconsin, baby. But if you guys are looking for something to do, there's always room at the pool.

And there's always plenty of beers to drink. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. Well, unless you drink them all. Which is. Then you just go get more boys and girls? Yeah. Oh, not a problem. We go to the liquor store.

We get more. Conce, thank you for your service. Thank you for joining us. Zero blog 30. Check him out. Go download rate five stars. Review. They're great.

They're very funny And they're also They have some astronaut I had fucking astronaut on recently It was pretty wild right Fucking astronaut Yeah Astronaut Scott Kelly

Dude that guy is so badass Dude it was just really great But that dude was in space If people haven't heard the episode or see him Hell yeah he was Frank you really breaking it down for us But if you haven't heard from the episode Guy was just in space

He was in space and then he came back And he doesn't do podcasts But he agreed to do ours Because he wanted a reason to come into barstool and read aloud a blog that Fights wrote three years ago, roasting him for calling him a peeled potato that looks like he's about to get mashed, who has simultaneously a very attractive now wife. So the guy just roasted fights in the middle of our interview.

Beautiful. That's just, it's must listen. Zero blog 30, go check him out. Captain Cons. Thank you. Happy fourth time. Fellas, thank you. Bucketlist item for me to appear on the show.

I love to have you back on. All right. See, Con. Let's go, Banks. What's up, Banks? Hey, Banks. What's going on, Rigsie? How's it going, man?

I'm great, man. How are you? Doing all right. First, we've got to say, thanks to having me on, boys. Trent Daddy, looking mighty fucking suave on today's video that was just posted. Well, thank you. Getting really good at that. Oh, thank you very much.

I appreciate that. Where the hell have you been? I mean, you come for a week, you disappear for a month. You come for a week. You disappear for a month. It's true. It's true. I'm just going to say, I mean, a little weird.

But what's going on, boys? Not much, man. How are you? Hopefully you enjoy me now. I'd like to be the first to say thank you for your service. Ah, thank you, Rigsie. Thanks. You already did, actually.

Funny story. My wife got in contact with you just before my last deployment, and Rigsie hooked it up with one kick-ass care package. Wow. Some new polos and a putter cover. Right before I left. for deployment so I've been waiting just got back about two weeks ago and finally got to put all that stuff into good use I was just going to say I know you just got back happy to have you

back how'd everything go over there it was all right little touch and go towards the end uh over in the sandbox just kind of uh waiting to see you know who's uh whose dick is bigger um I think we won the first round we'll have to see whether or not we win the second round at a boy well uh well so what's your crazy golf, you know, military-related story. You got anything crazy out there? Nothing really crazy. Funny story just from this last weekend, though. I had the member guests down here at my club,

and we had the Saturdays for the boys flag hooked up to the golf cart, you know, just like right in the middle of it, get it waving, you know, just be assholes kind of on the course. And sure enough, we've got a tunnel that actually goes under the highway because we've got to cross under the highway in order to get to the front nine our course and wooden flagpole didn't quite do the measurements right and snap right off it goes before I even got to the first tee. That's great.

I had to battle with a broken flag and also like half of the other flag, which I probably could have stabbed any of my opponents at any time and probably should have. But, you know, we lost. It's all good. So what was your, you know, what were you doing over there? like I said, I know, and I believe your wife's name's Sarah, right? Yeah, yeah, good memory. There you go.

Hope she's doing well. What were you, you know, what are you doing in the military? What's your role? So I'm in the Navy, I'm a corpsman, so we deal with everybody's medical stuff. This tour was to deal with damage control surgery, damage control resuscitation, where if anybody gets into, you know, a little firefight or something and they need a little bit of help, they'll fly into us. thing you know we're working on them right there open tables we started off in

the middle of in the middle of Iraq in the northern part just like literally in a tent and a desert field just in a tent with a few concrete walls just built up all around us to protect us and then finally we moved a little bit further west into Iraq and got into like a brick-and-mortar building where we could do a little bit more sustained surgery and whatnot. But I had a few cases come in. A couple of guys get pretty shot up. But luckily zero casualty rate, so we were able to save everybody.

So that was good news. Look, man, you're doing incredible, incredible work out there. We very much appreciate it. I know, like you said, you got back a couple weeks ago. When are you off again? I'm already on another deployment. Yeah, shit. No, I'm like, I won't leave right now living the life.

I don't know yet. We've got to figure out the deployment schedule and everything, but I don't know when we're going to be taken off yet. What are your Fourth of July plans? You got anything fun plan? Nothing yet. Close on a house on Monday. So I'll probably be moving into a new house.

Yeah, yeah. Finally got a nice little stable house for the family when I'm off gallivanting around the world. But if you guys ever get the chance, Paris Island, Legends golf course down there. It's like walking through history. Every hole is named after a Marine Corps hero. And I tell you what, if you play it from the blues,

Riggs'i, you probably push it all the way back from the tips. It's a pretty fun, challenging course where you can go get after it and have a good time. How's your game right now? Game is absolute shit. Taking nine months off was probably the worst possible thing that could ever happen. So my partner for the member guests was a 16 handicap.

I had to laugh at him in his face because I was like, I've been gone for nine months, and I just outshot your ass, and I haven't even touched the golf club. So his handicap's terrible, and I hate him for that. That's a tough look for him to just get dusted after you were gone to nine months. Very, very tough look.

Yeah. Love my boy, but I mean, you know, I'm like, holy shit, man, I haven't played in seven months, and now all of a sudden I'm out here at Kerry in this team. That shows you how good of a weekend it was. All right, Banks, man. Well, again, we really appreciate. Everybody appreciates everything that you do.

Have a fantastic Fourth of July. Say hi to Sarah for me. We'll send you guys some more gear, don't worry. Oh, dude, appreciate it. You guys have a good one. Thanks, banks. See, thanks. What a guy.

Yeah, his wife's great. She hits up. Send him a bunch of gear. How good do you feel right now? Yeah. I'm just going to cut you off. How good do you feel that, like. Well, it's a nice.

It's the lease that we could do for these folks. 100%. I know that. You know, but, but yeah, we try to do nice things. And that's, you know,

maybe some of the stuff people don't cover at partial sports. That 100% people like what we do, but we didn't see that in the HBO piece. I didn't see that. You sent a care package to military.

We're not out here looking for pads on the back. You know, we're just, that meant a lot to them. It meant a lot to him before he went off. I can't believe that was nine months ago. That feels crazy. It feels like yesterday that I was coordinating that.

And it was a real rush. I got to tell you, she's like, hey, he's leaving in like five days. It's like, oh shit and then you know our merch people i was like possible can we get this to them in like three days they're like oh oh no he's like how important is

it i was like unbelievably important he's like has to be there every caller your burger story is going to look worse and worse just really in terms of how Frankie on that intro would you have liked to gotten something that i got that was just like hey lurch it's nice that you're here and there and it's very weird actually or just nothing

that you got he gave me nothing he didn't even know what's better i didn't even realize that Frank, you got nothing? I didn't realize you got nothing. He complimented my game and my figure that I just completely forgot what was happening. I didn't realize. Riggs, Lurch.

And then Lurch got, yeah. Trent, I almost go to Tommy. And then nothing to me. I mean, Lurch has been here for 20 minutes. A cup of coffee. Lurch has been here for a cup of coffee.

Listen, I'm not going to hate on banks. No, you can't. I actually feel like he's in the four concrete walls in the sandbox saving laws. I know, man. You're out here getting into spats with the five guys. Spats with the five guys.

What a. What a loser that guy was. God, I want to go stomp in there and just wag my finger at him. But then, but you also said when you worked at Borrellys, you were that guy. Yes, but I would never be visibly rude to the person. I'd say like you wanted to say that stuff. This guy was going off. I see.

He was going off on everyone. Three people in a row. Yeah, he lost his handle. He flew off the handle. There was no handle to the town. The heat got to the guy. The heat got to the guy. He got to the guy.

He got to the guy. You always say about Laredo at Pirelias. We're like, that guy's been in front of an oven for 60 years. The heat's starting to get to him. I mean, come on. Like, how many times can you open up that freaking oven before the heat just starts boiling your brain? Start taking slabs of your brain off every time you open up that door. Just a mudslide.

Just leaking into his eyes. Laredo, what is that coming down? Where's that golf course he was talking about there? Or did you look that out? Prince. Paris Island Legends Club. Okay. I was just checking it out.

It's actually pretty sweet. It looks like they just picked like four awesome words to put down again. Paris Island Legends Club. I was actually just down a Bufur for a way. We've got to go play that golf course. Yeah, at some point we're playing that golf course. We got to start making, we got to make a video at a military course. We can do that.

We have to. You know the course Sun Eagles we put? Yeah, it had an old base on it. Yep. Fort Mollap. That's right. Yep. Some of these are probably sick courses.

Dude, this one looks sick. Legends golf course looks sick. It's a highly, high-relevant website, but it looks unbelievable. Golf courses. in general have bad, bad websites. Before 9-11, you could just walk on to all these courses, but so now they're just empty because, you know, civilians can't get on,

but they're just unbelievable courses that are empty at all times. That was a rule that changed after 9-11? I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. The force protection conditions just got much more intense. I think there's a track in Hawaii that's unbelievable. So for you, for anybody doesn't know.

That's Will, who's been helping us out, who is a military man himself. Thank you, Will. for your service. My pleasure, guys. Yeah. I mean, he's just sitting here listening

and I'll talk to these people and he's like, he knows every single thing. Cringing. Yeah, he, I saw, he was laughing sometimes especially when you were like, oh, does it have cruise ship windows?

I didn't say they didn't have cruise ship windows. I was like, well, I'm gonna say something. Have you ever seen a whale? He's like, no, we heard him. Like, I wasn't that off.

He's like, we can hear the shrimp. I think it was a horrible question. What time do they stop serving room service on the suburb? You got a popcorn shrimp joke. That was good. The popcorn shrimp joke was great.

I can't believe your brain is fine. That wasn't even a joke. That was a real question. That wasn't a joke. No, the popcorn shrimp? Yeah. And then you said, did you go? Is that why they call it?

No, they put it in a bucket. It looks like popcorn. I think that was a real question you were asking. It was a real question, but we're going to play it off. It worked out nicely, but I think you were like, man, maybe that's why they call popcorn shrimp. Anyway, if we're way off, Will, and we look like we're going off the road, you step right in, and you save this ship.

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today. 20% off. Riggs 20 is your code. Mike. What's up, Mike? Hey, what's going on, boys? Not much. How you doing? Where are you at right now? I'm out Hawaii. Oh, wow. Pearl Harbor. That's the only one I know.

No, so I'm in the Army, so I'm up at Schofield Berks. Gotcha. All right. What's going on out there? What's your role? What's your job? So the current job is an engineer company commander, so I'm a captain. Oh, wow.

So what does your day-to-day look like? What are you doing? Every day is different, man. Like everything from training soldiers to deal with their problems, dealing with random issues, it changes every single day. What's the coolest part about your job? There is no typical day. What's the coolest part about your job?

Easily going to the field and watching guys just blow shit up. What kind of shit that? What's the biggest shit that they blow up? So engineers, we're responsible for just breaching obstacles and getting the infantry guys to the objective. Like, that's our job. Like, we blow shit up to the infantry guys can go there. I love it. So biggest shit we have, I'm probably like,

50 pound explosives. I don't know. There's a lot of, a lot of explosives. I don't have to compute that. I've never seen one pound of explosives. That's got to be, how big is that explosion?

I mean, that's got to like shake everything. Oh, yeah, it shakes. Yeah, it shakes everything. I would say,

it's almost like you started to make a list and he's like, everything's on that list. Everything's on that list. That list is everything. Normally there's like public messaging, like, hey, we're doing this.

We're not like, we're not getting evaded. here's an interesting thought too so you're stationed in hawaii and that's got to be like a like a a weird balance right because you get you're like you're in paradise but then also like you're dealing with soldiers and training them and dealing with their issues like it's something it's a sacrifice that you're doing you know for your country but also now you're like in paradise is it ever like is downtime for you like unbelievable you're just in hawaii yeah downtown's unreal like then three or four different locations this is easily like the best location you could possibly be anywhere in the country i mean yeah you get off duty and it's like i'm on vacation

right you're on uh you're in an island where people everyone wants to go correct i was actually just right there i just uh with a friend i had a wedding out there uh in january of this year um and i just drove h2 which is right near where you go and that's like one of the most beautiful drives out to the north shore i've ever seen in my whole life It's absolutely stunning. Yeah, H2 is great. It's incredible. So you got to play any golf out there? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, so there is six or seven military golf courses on Oahu. And then like 30 plus, like, civilian courses that you can play at. Like, it's unreal. Everywhere you look, golf course, it's unreal out here. Six or seven military courses? So what's the best one? What's your favorite one out there? So the places I've played, I'd say Hickham, so you're on the Air Force base.

And, yeah, like a previous caller, you have the Air Force jets just flying over. And it's connected to the Oahu or the Honolulu Airport. So you just have, like, commercial jets flying it out all day. That's so cool. That's where I got to play. That's, I just, you're right. Just painted that picture of for whatever reason, maybe just because I'm stereotyping, idiot. But I was like, military base course, fighter jets fucking flying over.

it's like it's crazy town and I can't imagine the backdrop of that with Hawaii. Are you kidding me? Yeah, it's awesome. But Lurch, you said something about Hawaii on real course, military course. It's actually not Hickham, it's Clipper. It's over on the main core base on the east side. Yep. that must be it on the east side.

Yeah, because I remember it being on the east side because that's where we stayed. So civilians can't play these courses, is that right? So you can, but you have to have a guest. So it's not, you'd have to have, you have to be escorted from someone. Gotcha. If we can make that happen. I'm going to tell you, that's our next boondoggle. Hawaii.

We got to get out there. We got to play some military courses. Maybe we'll go with like chaps, uh, Kahn's Kate, bring them out there and play a couple of these military courses, do some videos there. I like where your head's at because if you tie it to the, the military. What are you going to say? No? No.

You know? We're going out there. We're with chaps. We're Kate. You know, I mean, it's a no brain. It's probably like whales jumping up in the background of shit. So is that island that, so what is it, Oahu? Oahu.

So that's the ultimate. Is that the ultimate golfing island? I mean, he said there's 30. No. It's not. So, like, if you look at the top 15 public courses, like two of them are on Oahu, the rest of them are on the other island. So it's the big island of Hawaii.

has like three or four, and then Kauai's got three or four as well. Gotcha. So you'd almost have to make it like, you know, a whole island hop and trip. How often are you able to island hop that you're out there? What kind of process is that? Yeah. So it's pretty easy. I could go a lot except my wife and I have three dogs and a kid, so it's not easy just to leave.

Right. But we try to go, I don't know, we try to go like two or three, three times a year, go to different islands. You just get a running start, or what's that? I mean, what's that look like? No, so you mean, just buy a ticket, just like you would at an airport and just, you know, take the 15-minute flight to the other island. 15-minute flight? That's amazing. Yeah, that's awesome.

Yeah, it's crazy. Still got to get there, like an hour and 15 minutes early? You do. Yeah, no, it sucks. Is there a ferry that you take? Yeah. So they used to have them, but they don't have it anymore. Got it.

Just wasn't economically viable. It sounds like there were some bad ferry stories. They do not do the ferry. We don't do it anymore. They just, we got rid of that one. Face down, eyes up, no. We're going to the air all the time. The engineers, not anymore.

The engineers were looking for big shit to blow up. They just found these ferries. They're like, well, we can throw a 50-pound bomb in that. Let's see what happens. Yeah, crater over there. There's 10 bucks. This thing disappears in a second. You got any crazy, any crazy golf stories out there?

So not here in Hawaii, but when I was on a location to Kuwait, they set up, like, the most inconvenient driving range of all time where they basically put the softball field outfield in the driving range so like as softball games are going on you would hit balls into people playing you know the softball game which is obviously not ideal so like you're playing softball you just start eating you know have a golf ball flying for me from the driving range it's like they put the driving range at like two or they put the softball field like 200 yards like that doesn't again since. I don't know why they did it, but yeah, it was just a pretty insane. That's just pure chaos. Yeah, that's chaos. That's a person who loves chaos who built that.

You could put that together. Yeah. All right, Mike. Well, hey, man, we appreciate. Thank you for your service. Thanks, Mike. You know, have fun out there in Hawaii. It looks like a beautiful spot. Yeah, it's great, guys. Thanks. Yeah, we got to sink up. We've got to come out there and play some golf. We're going to hit you up. We're going to come out there and play some golf. Hawaii, man. Central Park is like that. When we would play softball, They would, like the outfield would also be a park.

So there would be people eating having a picnic, like right in the outfield. And you would just hit, like, if someone hit a ball far enough, you'd just be trampling over someone's lunch. Correct. It's ridiculous. It is what happened. And now that's even, that's even crazier because it's two sports where the balls are going into, like they're almost hitting each other.

So then it's even more chaos. First time I ever tried to fly my drone was in Central Park with Lurch. Is that a big no-no there? Huge no-no. Biggest no-no ever. Really? Turns out there's a bunch of like geo-fenches that you really. can't fly.

So it goes like 20 feet up, starts beeping, and then you get like notification. I would imagine it goes straight down. If drones were allowed in Central Park, you, it would just be, there would be so many drones.

If they were allowed in New York like a fucking aerial war. It would ruin the Central Park experience. It actually knocks it down on its own. Oh yeah. Yeah. It's actually great though. Imagine if you were a construction worker

and then all of a sudden a drone just buzz by, you'd be like, I'm out of here, dude. No, it's a horrible decision to have them, or it would be a horrible decision

to allow them. But no, the geo fencing out there, they just put a big kibosh on that. That was the first time I ever tried to fly it. I was like, Lurch, this sucks. This is not fun at all. Can you fly anywhere in the city?

Probably not, right? No way. No way. No way. You can't fly anywhere near the city. There was a nice day the other day, and I got a Snapchat from a friend who was in the city, and it's just littered with bodies. And it's just littered with bodies. And it's just littered with bodies.

Anyone in the city? I thought you meant dead bodies. No, no, no. That's like, wow. Did he call 911? Did he alert? Alert the authorities, man. Don't be sending Frank in Snapchat.

This city is so crazy. I guess because like we're all probably used to the suburbs. You're Iowa. Yep. I mean, Lurch, where are you in Jersey? Yep. And then Missouri. We're used to like grass.

And when I walk this city during the summer, now it was like my first summer living in the city. You'll walk down like 27th and 7th. And there'll be a little corner where there's grass. And there's someone laying on it with no shirt on. Like people just love to find grass. And then when I saw the picture of Central Park on a nice day, it was, I mean, it looked like woodstock.

Like, I've never seen anything like it. People everywhere looking for that sun, looking for that grass. I'm talking head to toe filled. I mean, if you think about it and you live and work in New York City, weeks go by that your feet don't touch grass. Well, yeah, I know. It's insane. It's insane.

So if you find grass, you get excited, take your shirt off, you think you're at the beach. I can't take my shirt off. You can't take it. In reflection. How hot was it for you today? Because you wear pants. This is like 90 degrees today. I felt fine.

Here's another gripe that I've been saying. I haven't said it on this podcast. Don't ever heat shamed me. Right? I'm sick of this. When I walk into the office and I'm wearing a long-slee shirt and jeans, don't ask me how hot I am. Think how stupid that is. Think how stupid it is for you to ask me about my temperature.

It happened to me today. It's not stupid. You guys like, aren't you hot? And they say it with like a tone. Well, you're not used to anything else. So it actually makes sense because you're not used to anything else. If you put on shorts one day and enjoyed like a nice summer day with shorts. But don't, like, if I felt uncomfortable, wouldn't I change the way that I'm dressed?

I feel fun because you're afraid to show your legs and your arms. That's why we do it. Aren't you hot covering up your whole body because you're a pale, pasty little baby back, bitch, baby back girl boy? No, I'm not. I feel off. I feel fun. I feel fine. You don't.

You are the meme right now. I feel fine. And you are, and there's fire all around you because you're so hot. You wear pants all the time. Yeah, I do. But I don't wear long sleeves when it gets to be 80 degrees. degrees out. The pain of the heat isn't

isn't worth the pain of other people say your body. Don't get it. I almost just shoved your mic off the table. Don't heat shame. Well, now he's off. Don't eat shame.

That's enough, man. We eliminated Frank. Whenever heat chains is lost. Banks was on to something when he wasn't talking to Frankie. Yeah, he was. Dollar Shave Club. Trent, I don't know if you know this about me,

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Hey, how's it going? Doing great, man. How you doing? I live in a dream on a little bit of leave right now, so enjoying that. Thank you for your service, Tanner. Hey, no problem. And let me just start off by saying, Riggs, I like your odds against Kisner.

Ooh. Tanner comes with Tanner. Tanner. He's feeling great, and he's just buttonering us up. I love it. Think I'm going to take him, Tanner? I do.

I do. Pick the right course. That's all you got to pick the right course. Course is going to be huge. What do you think I should focus on? Like long, rough, narrow fareways, long, short course. What do you think I should focus on? I say long course.

with a lot of protection around the greens. Yeah, you're right. I need that motherfucker in green side bunkers, maybe a little bit of water, some elevated green. What's he going to do on an elevated green? When he's coming in with a five iron from some weird yardage, get out of here.

Or just find a par three course. I really don't think he's going to be able to put on that thing. Yeah, I don't know that he'll be able to, yeah, I don't know. Those guys can kind of putt with anything. Kisner's a really good putter, but you're right. I mean, at some point, right, having like a six-footer that he would always make with his real putter. and he can't make with a five-rider not nearly as consistently he's going to come back to haunt him

yeah right right so uh you're on leave what uh you know what's your what's your role what's your job of the military uh i'm an i'm an infantry officer um i'm a platoon leader right now so i got a platoon of about 40 40 games in the savannah georgia area um and we're the infantry guys so uh like on the corner of the four of the engineers kind of clear the rut clear the way and then we go through and do all the house cleared and all that stuff. Again, thank you very much for you guys. That sounds very intense. That sounds very intense.

That sounds real intense. And you're the leader out there, so you must, I mean, you know, how's your crew? They must respect the hell of you. Is that boots on the ground? Is that what they say or no? Is that like a... Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much the boots on the ground. You know, guys going through clearing the houses or doing whatever the on-ground mission is.

but for me as a leader I kind of I got to sit back and kind of you know monitor monitor everything and let the guys go do their job how tedious is that you know clearing houses uh it could be it can be pretty tedious you think about like you're getting a big complex village where you got multiple story houses hallways small rooms large rooms stairways imagine that would take forever forever but I don't know if A lot of practice, a lot of practice.

But yeah, that's super intense. How intense are those moments? Pretty, I mean, luckily for me, I get to sit back and kind of control it. But it can get pretty intense in there. So when you're back there, do you have like, do they have like body cameras on so you can like see some of the action or is that just like what I see in movies? No, pretty much just works off radio communication. and so a lot of it's just guys go through.

A lot of it's just trusting your guys and you practiced it so much that relying on them. And I mean, they've seen guys that have been around and done it for a while and had multiple deployments kind of kind of know what they're doing. And they guide the young guys and they really train hard with the young guys so they know they can trust those guys as well. So you're on leave.

You're playing a lot of golf? Yeah, trying to. I'm actually back up in New York right now, trying to get down to best age tomorrow, actually. Oh, let's go. Oh, yeah. Let's go. What are you going to try to get in line in the morning?

Are you going to walk on? What's the plan? No, I had a buddy. He's stationed up here in New York, so he called in about a week ago. Got us the afternoon tea time for tomorrow. So we're going to try and get down there in the morning. We got a bit of a drive, but we're going to get down there and plenty of time to warm up and get ready to go. You know what you got to do.

You got to play the black horse, and you got to go to Borrellys, and the meal's going to be on me. that's what I'm saying. Oh, absolutely. So you DM me, you tell, you DM me, and then I'll set it all up. After your post around, you're going to go to Borrelli. You're going to have a meal like a king. Love that. Awesome.

We'll get the spaghetti with the meatballs. That's right. Give it an extra meatball, baby. I'm being serious. If I don't get a DM from you, I'm going to be upset. I want to set this up. You're not eating anywhere else but Borrelli's tomorrow night. Absolutely.

We're doing it. We've got a guy going down with us. He's actually got a shoulder in a slinger right now, He's in troopers, so he's still going. Love it. Wow. What a guy. He wasn't going to sit at the bar while you guys play?

I mean, he's not going to play the Black Horse or the sling. No, I'll probably just make him ride along so he can chirp with the hour playing. That's awesome. You guys might be all being a sling after you play the black. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. It's spectacular, though. I heard, too, that the groundscrew out there has done a phenomenal job getting that thing back after the PGA. Saw some pictures.

I follow a couple of guys, so a couple of Bethpage Groundscrew guys. place looks great. Have you guys played it before? No, I've never, never been down there. Oh, you are going to love it. I mean, yeah, it's hard, but who really cares? I mean, whenever you shoot, you shoot. But, man, I've never seen a Parkland course that's got that kind of beauty.

It's just, I don't know how they do it. Every hole's different. It's spectacular. You guys are going to love it. I'm looking forward to them. Looking forward to the meal afterwards, too. Woo! That boy.

So, you know, you got any, you know, base golf or any military golf? or any military golf-related stories, anything crazy? Yeah, so I'm down here in Savannah, and, you know, the one thing about golf is, like, you can never look at somebody. You guys know, you can never look at somebody and really, like, tell, like, is he a good golfer? Is he a bad golfer? Like, am I about to go out with this guy, and it's going to be an all-day, you know, six-hour affair? No, right, because you can look at a guy, like, lurch and be, like, no chance this guy can make it down a fucking golf course. And then he's, he's as, like, limber and movable.

It's incredible. He's like Gumby out there. It's unreal. The fact that you play tennis, by the way, is insane. We'll let him continue his story. You should see him dance, too. It's crazy. Right on my feet.

No, he's nice out there and people like it. Right. So you always get these like, you know, you start talking about golf around the office or whatever, and you get the guys, they're like, oh, yeah, you know, let's go play sometime. And the problem is it, like, when it's somebody who's in charge of you and it's your boss, they're like, man, like, I can't not go play with him. You know, I can't go play with him. I can't go play with him.

But at the same time, you're kind of, you're looking him up and down. You're like to be a whole day, damn a fair shit. We're going to be out there for six hours, but I can't like say, hey, sorry, Barnes. They don't really want to play with you. You kind of look like a hack. You could leave that last part out. I might help a little bit. You might be in trouble.

Yeah, yeah. So, but actually, I got the chance to go out not that long ago. The guy is, like, way high above me. And we went out, and it's a couple other guys who were leaving. But now we played the on post course. Man, like on post course here in Georgia isn't the greatest, but guys will get out there, practice. You know, the practice here, they're out there in full uniform,

just playing full rounds. They don't go on lunch break. They don't even change this get out there. So we're going out and, you know, we're playing. We got this guy who would get out there. He's like, yeah, she's like, you guys ready? And we're like, yeah, we're good to go. Let's go.

He's like, well, I've never played before. Oh, no. Here we go. So we're out there. seven out starts pouring rain this guy's out there just determined never played the game of golf before ever i'm talking like we're going through a whole swing lessons every shot you know if you get the 10 yards down the down the fairway we're like and it's it's piss and rain but he's he's sticking to it so we get all done and absolute monotrosity we get all done

he shoots all group text he's like hey uh yeah let's do let's do this again next week and like oh what do you say like uh you know no like that was rough yeah I love that's what you came up with no just no we're just not gonna play and you can't give him like a work excuse

like because he knows what you're doing like you know you think your schedules it's like no you know I got that's what's going on next week you know so it's like that's a battle you live with in the in the military life

is you got you know guys don't want to go out and play and you're just standing there you're trying to look them up and down in the office you're like you're just really hedgy back there. What did you guys end up doing? We got out of it and said he ended up having an obligation, so he kind of rescued this all for himself there. That's huge, man, is that huge?

Absolutely. We don't want to go back out there. Well, Tanner, good luck at Bethpage Black. Make sure you hit up Frankie and hit up Berle's tomorrow. We'll do. I appreciate it. And you guys keep putting in the good work up there. We're going to try, Tanner. We appreciate it again. Thank you for your service. Thanks again. We appreciate it.

Have fun tomorrow. No problem. We'll do. I'll try. I'll try. See you, man. See you. Now how good do you feel, Frankie?

Well, I mean, yeah, it just had to be done. You can't come on this podcast on 4th of July and he's in the service. The guy's risking his life for us. And then he's going to go to my golf course and I'm not going to offer him at dinner. I mean, I got to make a call to my dad and be like, what's his name, Tanner? Tanner. You got to roll out the right carpet for Tanner. He could walk in now with 11 people.

My dad's going to be like, what did you just did? No, if anyone's going to be happy that he's going to be coming, it's going to be my dad. My dad may start crying. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Why did you start tearing up? What's going to be like, what's going on? Tanner may walk in.

My dad's going to start tearing up. And Tadner's going to be like, what did I do? Yeah. Where's the other nearest restaurant to hear? Just get out of there. Like, you guys, everyone just crying? I also, I realize, I got to stop saying base course to say on post, on post. On post.

On post. On post. On post. Is that what it is? Course on post? I think so. On post course. Oh, he says base course.

I thought I sound like a fucking idiot, I guess, every time. Well, the first guy said on post course, and I thought he said on the coast course, like on coast. No, it was on coast. That's a mess. And then Tanner said on post. I just thought I was wrong. Tanner just said on post, too. He's like, I was playing the on post.

So we're going to go with on post. We got a couple more. Let's go to Connor. What's up, Connor? What's up, guys? How you doing, man? I'm doing all right. I'm down in a Jacksonville area right.

now doing a little summer training and trying to get as much golf in as possible. How hot is it down there right now? It is hot as hell. We went over to the driving range today and it was just like 95 degrees and humid. I totally forgot about how the Florida heat works. Oh, man. Where you're from originally? So I live in Annapolis and that's where the Naval Academy is.

So, I mean, you get the mid-Atlantic heat, but there's nothing like that. So what are you doing in the Navy? So I'm at right now I'm a student at the Naval Academy. It's a college in Annapolis where they train us to become officers in the Navy and the Marine Corps. So I'm going to be a senior this year, and I'm on the golf team there, and we're Division I'm a Program. We play in the Patriot League, so like Army, Bucknell, Lehigh, Lafayette, those kind of schools up down the Northeast. And then coming up in September, I will put in my final preferences for what service I want to go into. So that could be in the surface Navy, which is like on ships or the submarine Navy, or be a pilot or be a Marine Corps officer.

Wow. Look at you. So are you guys better than Army? We've had back and forth my freshman year. We went up there and we beat them. And then my sophomore year, they came down to Annapolis and they beat us. But then we beat them in our conference championship. And then last year they beat us again up at their place.

But this coming year, we're playing. our match at Pine Valley. Kind of a new thing. Yeah, one of our supporters, we have a pretty extensive alumni network. I can imagine. I bet it's extensive as hell. I also really appreciate that you, like,

introduce the Naval Academy, like we had no idea, which actually I really appreciate that. I think that's smart on this show. I mean, to do that. I mean, he's like, so it's in the United States of America

founded late 1700s is a whole thing. Okay. And you're doing that little joke was unreal. I would have said the wrong years. So you guys got to beat Army this year. Or you're at Pine Valley. You're playing at Pine Valley? Yeah, we're playing at Pine Valley this year. It should be incredible. We actually have a practice round coming up in the next couple of months, which, I mean, I'm thrilled about. A couple of guys on the team have played before

through their local connections. But yeah, this year's going to be a treat. It should be something better than ever. So we'll have to see how it goes. What's the beeping? I just had to, I mean, I mean, what is that little buzz right there in the back? Is it something important because I'll feel like an asshole? My team group chat is going up right now. Okay. Oh, no, that's fine.

He thought Frankie was. We're keeping an eye on so you're safe so you can go home. Oh. And argue with a guy, you can argue with a guy to fucking five guys. Excuse me, Frank, you for keeping all of you people. I thought he's going to have the whole wall speech from a few good men. Yeah, exactly. Imagine he's like, well, this beeping actually ensures that you still breathe.

Like, well, shit, man. I'm sorry. If you've got some important, you just handle it. You can hand it right away. It's just his group mage just buzzing off the fucking lungs. How jacked up are you to play Pine Valley? Pine Valley. Oh, I mean, we're so pumped for it.

We actually, so it'll be, I mean, we've gotten to play some other really great courses. We have a spring break trip every other year where we go out to Monterey, and we got to play a lot of the courses. Y'all got to play this past couple months. We get to play Cyprus and Pebble and Spyglass and MPCC. all in one week. So it's pretty incredible. But getting to playing Pine Valley,

which I mean, you can't even see it really on, even on the internet. So being able to do something like that's going to be insane. Is your team unbelievable at golf? Yeah, we've gotten, I mean, we get, having these connections really improves our program and helps with recruiting a lot. I'm sure.

Yeah. So what is like, are you guys all like plus handicaps and stuff? Like what, what is really good for you guys? We play, I mean, we play, like, big teams like Clemson and, uh, and we played in Augusta State's tournament. So, and we compete fairly well, but, uh, I mean, I would say like a good tournament. If we're all shooting, um, like if we shot a couple under par, we'd have a really good showing at a lot of our tournaments. And that's five guys playing and four scores counting.

I had some golf. That means Division I golf. Yeah. It's all legit. Remember how good those kids were up at Minnesota? Insane. Insane. Just ripping drives off the deck and shit.

Unbelievable. Connor, what do we got to do? to get some Navy golf gear. Oh, yes. Please. We were just talking about that. We can definitely hook you guys up with some stuff. So our team stuff, I think, is a little cooler than the pro shop stuff.

But, but yeah, we'll definitely figure out a way to get you guys rep in some Navy golf. We can do a swap. We can send you some merch. I'm going to send you a mountain of fucking gear. That doesn't violate the, that doesn't violate D1, one golf. I don't want to get them suspended, you know what I mean? We're not going to, we'll look into that. We're not going to send you anything.

I'm winking off camera right now. Big, huge wink. All right. We got to get some Navy going to. We'll talk about that offline if that's possible. We don't want to get you got to trouble. I like that. How often do you, you know,

to kind of play that Navy card to get on sick courses? You know, not terribly. I honestly, saying the team helps a lot more than saying the Navy card, because, I mean, there's a whole lot of people in the military, but we have a lot of, like, just our team has a lot of connections. So, like, this past, probably right around late April, one of my buddies just, like, called up a course in D.C. Chevy Chase.

It's one of the older courses up there, and we told them that we were on the team that we wanted to play, and they had us out there for the afternoon and treated us really nicely. Congresional? Or not? It helps a lot. But other than that, I mean, you can try and play the Navy card. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. But, yeah, I mean, we get our rounds, and.

I like that. Well, what do you got, you got any big Fourth of July plans? Yeah, down in Jacksonville. They've got a big celebration or something like that. And I've got a couple of buddies down here. So we're going to play a couple rounds of golf. And we actually have our squadron golf tournament that we were invited to take part in. So get some beers flowing and hopefully take some money off some people.

Hell yeah, Connor. Well, good luck out there. Good luck with golf, you know, going forward. And hopefully you get some Navy golf gear we can rep. absolutely we'll make sure to send it up there all right man have a great night thanks for calling in we appreciate it yeah thanks Connor yeah see you guys see yeah oh yeah those guys are playing some sick courses sick courses what a roster a golf course that guy they've got cypress spyglass pine valley pine valley pebble and pccc oh my goodness sounds incredible

have a dumb i mean i ask a lot of a question like when you let's say you get recruited to play for the Navy golf team. What's the most? And Will, maybe you can answer this. Like, what's the, like, what is the most that could happen to him, like, deployment-wise? Like, right? You go to play for the team. Like, what happens for that?

Well, he's not active right now. Being in college, he's not in the military yet. So he, like, right now he could still leave. He would just owe his money back to the Naval Academy. So he could get out once he, like, next year after he graduates, then you just have to fulfill your obligation. Like, it's happened a couple times with other pro sports. And it's like,

been in limbo, but for the most part. Four years? There was like a safety for the Lions. I think we got an exception. I think it's five years. Five years? Yeah, I believe so. It's either four or five.

Keenan Reynolds from the Ravens. That's what Jake is saying. There's another guy for the lion. You can be a top golfer in the world, right? And you love everything about the Navy golf team. You go there, you play your four years. You maybe win a national championship. Team sick.

They're shooting 67s as a team. And then when you're done, you have to fulfill five years of duty after that? Yeah. They've made some exceptions. Now, you could, right, you could apply for, like, an exemption or an exception or whatever. And if you're one of the biggest stars in the world of golf, like, they might grant it to you. But like he's saying, there's a couple precedents in sports. Or even when they're in the NFL, they still, right.

Right. Like, I think David Robinson did two years. You called the admiral. I don't know how he ended up getting out. But usually they fulfilled it eventually. Okay. It's very interesting, man. It's crazy.

You can tell you, Frank, it's one of your better questions. Well, thank you. I was doing in my head. I just didn't know. It's good information. Yeah. It is good information. It's good news.

Just doing. Last one we got on the line, we got, I believe Justin calling in. Justin, you there? Yeah, what's up, guys? What's up, man? How you doing? Sorry for making you wait so long. No, that's okay.

Frankie, to answer your question, though, Billy Hurley on the tour, he went to the Naval Academy. Unbelievable. Wow. He did have to serve his, like, four or five years. Holy smokes. People being able to listen to the calls is paying off. Huge. Yeah, huge.

dividend because people have been referencing back to other callers well just helps us idiots up here like actually get fact it's just a bunch of military guys like all right everybody let's help these four idiots yeah and figure out what they're talking about i couldn't remember if billy hurley was a um uh army or a navy guy because we had him on the show like two years ago remember trint daddy went down there yes because he was the defending champ at that time for the dc tournament correct uh and and you're right he did he did you know he he served his duty and then came back and was still able to win on the bjutor is unbelievable. That's unreal.

So you're away from the game, really. I mean, if you're one of the best golfers in the world throughout your college career, you're playing a ton of golf. I mean, this kid's playing at Cyprus and Pine Pound. And all of a sudden, you're just gone for four or five years. And then you've got to come back and be a professional golfer. Holy smokes. Yeah, I remember.

I'm pretty sure we talked to about that fact. Billy really good, too. Really? Yeah. Really good. He was in college. I want to say he was like number two at one point in the country. And he didn't get the exemption.

That's incredible. So he did try to get the exemption? He did. He applied for it. The Navy said, no thanks. Wow. I respect it. I mean, I respect everyone that goes into the service,

but I respect the Navy being like, well, like, you know, this is what you're here for, pal. Yeah, that's crazy, man. Kind of gives me the chills. Nice golf shot. You're here to serve the name. Yeah, because in the end, the Gall shot doesn't fucking matter. No.

You know what matters. Right. These guys are doing. Exactly. So, Justin, where are you stationed? Sorry, Trent's still. I asked one question. Did you ask one station?

I asked the first guy where we were stationed. And then the guys at this, I think they were listening to the other calls. And they just immediately, that was like the first bit of information they gave. So, Justin, where are you stationed? So I'm actually on leave. I'm transitioning from Fort Hood, Texas to Fort San Houston in San Antonio to be a drill sergeant. Oh, drill sergeant. You like yell at people?

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Go yell at little kids. Well, I call them kids, you know, 19 years old. but make sure they don't do any dumb things that gets them in trouble before they can contribute to the Army. That part's got to be a little bit fun to just let loose on people, right? Like you just, you have to kind of like go into like a demented place, I feel like to really be able to.

Really get a view into Frankie's brain right. Just to really be able to break people. Well, no, if you're a drill star, you've got to like break these kids down, right? Am I wrong? You do have to find a special way to not look at them. I don't want to say not as humans, but you don't want to hurt their feelings, right? Like, you're like, if they start crying, you can't be like, I'm so sorry. Like, you got to be like, are you fucking crying right now?

Right? Like, go, you got to go into the darkest part of you and rip them up. I'm training all the medics, so I have to teach them not only Army soldiers stuff, but then the medical side on that. So they got to be soldiers and they got to figure out how to save their buddies. because once they get to the Army you're deployed, you're it. That's why they, the infantry dudes all call the medics doc because we are it.

If they're sick, they got, you know, a cut on their hand. We're the ones that got to stitch them up and make sure that they can do their job. Right, there's nowhere else to go. They can't go to someone else. There's no urgent care. No. You guys are it.

There's no 24-hour urgent care where you sign, you swipe your ID and like, oh, welcome back. Here's a lollipop. That's what they do to me. It's like, you still go to a pediatrician? No, okay. So, Justin, you play any golf? I play as much as I possibly can.

The Fort Hood course was not great. But when I was at Fort Lewis in Washington, where you guys just were, Chambers is awesome. Awesome. Amazing spot. Actually, the Fort Lewis course called Eagles Pride is really good, too. That's one of the best military courses I've seen. Really? I bet it's a delicious golf course.

Well, and it's just like all those Pacific Northwest courses. It's got the trees, and it's perfectly green all the time. Those trees are unbelievable. I can't tell you. Those trees feels like you're at Harry Potter with those trees. I tried to explain it to Trent. Remember when we were driving? I'm like, you guys don't understand those trees.

We were driving through, you know, those windy roads. I guess it was like 17 mile road or whatever in California. 17 mile drive. And I was like, you guys just don't understand the trees that are in the Pacific Northwest because they're basically Christmas trees that start 400 feet in the air. It's crazy. Like the whole thing is just trunk and then the top is like a little Christmas tree.

I never seen anything like it. No, they're amazing. And there's no going over them. Over is not really a... No, they're just too tall. No, no, they're just in the way. So when you're getting stationed in different spots and you're getting moved, is that moved or...

you know, from station and station. Are you... Reassigned? Is that what to just relocate? Relocated. Transfer. Transfer. That's the word.

Thank you. Do you... I keep yelling at himself. Do you... Do you, like... Is it one of the first things you do, like, search the golf course? Like, oh, like, or do you guys are, like, know which ones are good? Or is it kind of like...

I feel like that's, like, the first thing I would do is, like, what's the post-golf course like? And if you get... We talk to a guy in Honolulu. One of the first things is check out the on-post course. See if that's... good and if it's good it's so cheap for us to play that it's it's almost pointless to go anywhere else very often so because it's i mean military courses i think it's 30 dollars to for 18

holes in a cart if you're in the military it's fantastic no matter where you are oh it's just a standard rate no matter which on post golf course you could be playing the one in cal and you know awahu or you could be playing the one in texas it's 30 bucks. Unbelievable. 30 bucks. How do they keep those golf courses, you know, so pristine and delicious?

Is it, are the tax dollars? Yeah. So not all of them are. You can always tell if the, if the commander of the base likes golf, because then he allocates more money for it. Whoa.

This feels a little behind the scenes. We're getting a little political now. Wilson can't use tax dollars. It's MWR dollars, so it's, raised that's why they used to let civilians on so they could make money to run the course got it got it got it so now a lot of them are a lot more rundown than like you know gotcha gotcha gotcha could there be like a charity could there be like a donation from a person that maybe was stationed in a spot and he like ended up becoming a billionaire and he loved that golf course and wanted to yeah

they'd take money anyway then get it oh yeah wow all right uh i dig that's you got any crazy golf stories from out there? So when I was my second deployment to Afghanistan, we were on a really tiny little cop. There was just a couple of platoons out there. And we had, we found

a flat spot and we put down a rug, just a piece of carpet. And we had some shitty sandwich and we would chip or pitch and play horse or basically Afghanistan Chippo. And, and

And so we would go on patrol or do a guard shift, and then you'd get done and you'd go get a couple of guys and, you know, play weird horse, try to bank it off of barriers or land it on a certain weird spot. What's like the weirdest spot you try to land it on? So the cop had what's called HESCO barriers, so they're basically big, giant, they're made out of like chicken wire. and they have sand in them. And they stack a couple of them on top of each other, and that's the barrier for our little outpost. So I would always try to land it on the top of the first one, in between the first and the second one.

Wow, so we're looking at these right now. This looks like a fun little game, I've got to tell you. It definitely passed its time, and some of the guys were afflicted the same as Frankie, so I knew if I could, if I had to hit it in my head. hit it in the air to land it there. I was good to go. So who brings, like, who brings the wedges over and the clubs over? You kind of, you got to, like, sneak them over?

Is it you just bring it with you? In my case, they're weapons, so they probably just, like, pack them in. So we can, uh, every, every deployment, we pack a big shipping container and we can put personal stuff in there. Gotcha. So we usually, we usually take the old, the old wedges with no grooves left and throw them in there with half a dozen golf balls. and we'd do something. Are you guys doing like Afghan Chippo all the time, like every day? Oh, yes, every day.

If we weren't on patrol or on guard, we were doing that. Because there wasn't that in Tiger Woods, we just played the shit out Tiger Woods. How's that translate to your real short games? Is your short game like way better than the rest of your game? No, not at all. Yep, that's about right. That's right. no translation whatsoever, but the trick shots, I got good.

I can do all the trick shots, but regular chip, it's fine. Right. If you've got like an impossible shot, you pull it off, but a straightforward chip. Like a happy Gilmore shot. You can do that. We never had this one over in Afghanistan. That just never happened. Right. We got big Fourth of July plans? Yeah. I'm going to see my dad in Phoenix, so we'll play some golf. and, you know, raise one up for Uncle Sam. Awesome.

We appreciate the hell out of that. Say hi to your dad for us. Have fun out there playing golf. Happy Fourth of July, and thank you very much for your service. Thank you, man. Thanks a lot. Great chat. All right, Justin, have a good one, man.

We appreciate you calling in. Take care. All right, boys, I've got to say, that was a hell of a show. Yeah, it was. I think we end this show talking to Will a little bit. 100%. So, Will, like we said, Will is pretty new. He's been here for only a month or so.

uh will i don't you you know tell everybody a little bit about what you did sort of the same conversation that we have us uh with a bunch of these people yep thanks uh so i was the gunners mate in the navy um collateral duty i was a rescue swimmer on surface ships and uh was a visit board search and seizure team member on that you just uh go out when you're in dangerous waters you go onto little boats that uh you know might be enemy and whatnot You're an unbelievable swimmer? I'm a decent swimmer. I mean, you can...

He's an unbelievable swimmer. Yeah, that's what he's a swimmer, right? Yeah, he's a good swimmer. What percent, what percent pile of swimmers do you think Will's in? Top... I never know how to do that. Is it the 99th or is the first? Oh.

Well, you can just say like top four percent. I'd say three percent. Is that what that be? I'm going to say top one percent. I'm going to say... Right? I mean, who else could be that much better. Why did you, you undercut my answer after I said my, that was fucked up?

up. Well, If I had said one percent, you'd have said 0.5%. Well, it's like every Olympic swimmer and then like the next levels will. Yeah, but think about this, okay? Did you beat Michael Phelps? I mean, Michael Phelps would would lap me so many times. It's embarrassing.

So like, you know, I'm a good swimmer, but the like professionals are like the best people in the world are just so much better. It's a joke. But he does tactical swimming, right? Correct. He goes in. It's fucking searching rescue. His swimming is more important. important than Michael Phelps is swimming.

And you also ask the type of question where it's like, if I would have talked to someone from another country that's never seen the sport of golf, but they like, no Tiger Woods. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to go golf. Like, are you going to go golfing with Tiger Woods? You asked if submarines had windows. I said if they've ever seen a whale. You said, do you guys do whale watching from your submarine? Could you see a whale from the submarine?

He's like, there's no window. Let's get back to Will. Let's get back to Will. But yeah, actually, so not as good of a swimmer as you guys are giving me credit for because also always had gear on, so mask and fins. So, like, freestyle swimming, I just get blown out of the water by Phelps. What's the most dangerous water you swim in? The Red Sea is covered in sharks.

Is it really? Yeah. There's like, if you read any of those seal books, like one of them, I think it's no easy day. He talks about parachuting in, and he can just see, like, hundreds of sharks. And I was, like, practicing in that water, and I was just scared shitless. It's, like, I told the, like, Captain, like, we shouldn't be doing swimming out here. Like, it's just stupid. I'm not a pussy, but let's not do this.

Right, right. Just assuming a lot of risk. And maybe I am. What was one of the first really popular Navy SEAL books? It might have been, was a no easy day? No, I didn't read that one. I know the name of it. It was incredible.

It was a guy who was a sniper. He was a scout sniper in the, in the, he was a SEAL Team 6 sniper. So not American sniper? No. It was a guy. Oh, man, what's that guy's name? It was an incredible read. The Red Circle.

Incredible read. Now, I'm looking at, oh, it's the, what's the third one on there? Seal Team Six. That's just what it's got. I mean, you get to click on. It's got to be a longer title of that. Seal Team Six memoirs of an elite Navy SEAL little sniper. Can you find the guy's name that wrote that?

It's like the Tiger Woods book. I know. That's what it feels like right now. Was that Steel Team Six? It's about, it's a guy's name. I don't know if we can make a good. Howard Waston? Yes.

Howard Wast. You just went through with someone definitely. has done with the Tiger Woods book where they're like, what's the name of that Tiger Woods book? And then a lurch was like, looking at it's like, well, this book called Tiger Woods.

No, no, click on the book. There's got to be a better name than just Tiger Woods. What the fuck is it? The name is called Seal Team 6. I read that one. It was fantastic. It was just an incredibly fascinating.

Reed, you guys play a lot of golf ball? Yeah. So on my, the Bezos primarily stationed that Little Creek Ford story. There's a course there. It's kind of run down. but it's great because there's a lot of beer.

It's super cheap and you can walk to your barracks and whatnot. So just a blast to go to. And then, like on deployments, we would hit balls off the deck. But, yeah, that's pretty much the extent of it. But playing on base is always a blast. That's a picture of America in my head, right? Like, if you were, like, on a boat and you look out and you see, like, a Navy, like, battleship And you see guys in Navy uniform, like, hitting golf balls off the side on, like,

their off time, like into the ocean. Like, that's like, that's a scene on, that's like a visual, like, poster postcard or something. Yeah, and a lot of times we would do it after, like, shooting a lot. So you just blast the machine guns and hitting golf balls just having a good old time. Yeah, that's America, that's America, baby. What a feeling walking and going into Fourth of July. I got to tell you, everybody out there listening, anybody's, you know, been involved in the military, or he's even just seen some videos.

We need to be posting these videos of these guys, whether they're on ships or they're on bases with jets flying over, wherever they are. Afghan Chippo. That seems... Afghan Chippo. I need golf balls being hit by our brave men and women in the U.S. Armed Forces in all kinds of incredible places.

I need to see those. We're going to start posting those. But happy Fourth of July to everybody. Thank you, Will. Thanks again. Will, I'm sitting in this room, like, listening to us talk about this, and you were like searching restaurants.

I thought you guys killed it. You did well. I appreciate that. So some incredible stories from, again, from all the folks who called in, we very much appreciate, appreciate all you guys waiting. We appreciate your service. Happy Fourth of July. It's everyone out there.

I hope you enjoyed it. That's all we got. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.