Fore Play - Bethpage Black Review w/ Frankie Borrelli

Episode Date: November 7, 2017

The passionate and controversial Frankie Borrelli rejoins the show to break down his “home course,” Bethpage Black. The guys talk about its difficulty, their favorite holes, and Frankie relives how 11 became his “doom hole.” Riggs and Trent also dissect Tiger's latest podcast appearance and golf's latest headlines. In From The Gallery, the boys talk riding vs walking, and a few other course predicaments.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Com, it's your guy Riggs. I'm here with, as always, my good friend Trent. Hello, everybody. We have on this week's show maybe the most famous guy in 4Play lore. Frankie Burelli, the pizza maker. Yep.

He's on. He's got more radical stories. His home course, Beth Page Black, was, I made my way out there yesterday, Sunday, with a couple buddies. It was raining. It was 55 degrees. It was windy. Played the tips.

One of the hardest courses in America. Frankie's self-proclaimed home course. So he was there to break it down. He told all kinds of stories from being on the course. He's an underrated storyteller, man. We had him on when we were in Augusta, and he recapped his Sunday at Augusta. And he just knows how to spin a tale,

that Frankie Borrelli. He is just so passionate about things. He's so young. He's got the light in his eyes. He's a great guy. Young Frankie Burrelli, telling stories about growing up, playing the black as much of politics. possible with caddied around there as well.

Really, really, really funny, interesting stuff from Frankie, the pizza maker. This kind of reminded me golf season's winding down in the Northeast folks. Very much so. Very, very much so. This last weekend was dicey. I'm heading up to Boston this next weekend and supposed to play in kind of a silly season-type tournament that we do every November with my buddies. The high on Saturday? 39.

No way. That's what it says. Holy shit. 39 and sunny, however. Oh, all right. Oh, that makes a whole bit. A lot of difference. sun.

It's going to feel like it's 75. 39 and cloudy stuff. 39 and sunny. Might as well be summer. That's nice. We're also going to go through headlines. We've got a handful of headlines. We got Tiger Talk.

We got Patrick Cantlay and his story. We got Justin Rose as one back to back. Donald Trump with some golf making some golf headlines, posting scores, playing over in Japan. Henrik Stenson with a weird injury. We're going to break all that down. We got three from the galleries. But first, I got to tell everybody about some Omaha steaks that I have to say. Oh, baby.

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Okay, we got headlines. Let's get to Tiger. Tiger did about an hour-long podcast. Somebody made a good point that he's just, Tiger should never talk for that long before ever. No, I'm surprised. What was it, Gino Ariema's podcast? Is that correct?

Yeah, who's the, what the women's Wisconsin. The Yukon. I'm sorry, Yukon. He's the head coach that there. And yeah, talk for an hour. New podcast, right? Right. It's a new podcast. And I will say, so on this podcast when we started it, we were like, we're not going to talk about Tiger all the time unless he does something. Tiger, this is probably six weeks in a row that Tiger has made something noteworthy happen that we have to talk about.

You really do, and you can tell when you go on to any of the golf outlets, if you go on to Golf Channel.com, we go to Golf Digest, whatever. He's just one of the big headlines or all of the headlines. Right after he announced his comeback, I took a little screenshot and tagged all of the Tiger references, and there were like 13 of them on the homepage on Golf Channel.com. Tiger is like the like we're Barstle sports awful announcing that is what Tiger is to every single golf in the world. Correct. So he's back. He had a bunch of different things, of course, that he talked about over an hour long interview. A couple that we want to get to.

The first one that I want to talk about is there was a little story with his caddy, Joel Likava, who if you really think about it, I guess it's been what, like three events that he's caddied for in like the last two years because Tiger's been injured for the whole time. He does pay him a salary. However, you know, the prize money, they make around 10% if you factor in how much Tiger typically wins during, you know, his good years and all of that. That's millions of dollars that Jolakaba is not making because his guy is just injured all the time. Tiger told a story where he essentially told Joey, hey man, if you want to take up another bag, I can hook you up. I'll make some calls. I'll get you on a bag with one of the young up-and-coming guys. And then, you know, whenever I return, whenever that is, I can't guarantee when it's going to be.

I hope that, you know, you'll come back, et cetera. Joe La Cava said, no, I'm your guy. Good move, Joe. This is a fucking no-brainer. Yeah, it's a test. If you think that Tiger was being sincere in this, you are an idiot. This is what happened to Stevie. Stevie jumped on Adam Scott's bag for a little bit.

Yeah. Tiger was like, oh, interesting. Publicly, he's like, yeah, no, that's totally fine. And he's like, you don't, you know, that's like cheating on, you know, you don't. Yeah, this is like what are you thinking. Tiger's the king of this. I don't know if you ever read Hank Caney's, the big miss. Oh, yeah.

Tiger does this. He does this constantly. to people who he is potentially letting into his inner circle. Yep. So he will play mind games with you, and if you do it wrong, he will never speak to you ever again. So I'll be honest, I'm very high on the Joey Tiger team now, having heard this. Joey's at the Dodgers game with him. He's saying, he's passing the loyalty test.

No brainer on this. If you said, okay, cool, thank you so much and took him up on this offer, you're just an idiot, you know, deserve to be in the inner circle. You're a moron, you're out. You're never going to win championships and major championships with Tiger. He gave the right answer. good sign going forward very good sign going forward everything's on the up and up with tiger and his camp we're i'm i'm fucking ready the other thing uh that stuck out that stuck out that stuck out this was the thing that got it's not a word stuck out stuck out yeah this next thing is probably the thing they

grabbed the most headlines headlines been everywhere about dialing back the golf ball this is pretty much i think at this point this has been the biggest offseason topic of conversation in general has been dialing back the golf ball um anytime you hear you know any course arched or one of the big riders from really any of the publications talk about this issue. I believe Jack has said the same thing. Now Tiger said the same thing. They need to roll the golf ball back. And it's a no-brainer.

Tiger laid it out in a very logical way, which is, look, in order to challenge the best players in the world, you're going to have to build, you already have to build courses that are 77, 78,000, 7,800 yards. Right. You're going to get very soon to the point where you have to build 8,000 yards. yards courses and you quite literally just cannot do that. There's not enough room. This is what he said.

He said, this is quote. And if the game keeps progressing the way it is with technology, I think the 8,000 yard golf course is not too far away. And that's pretty scary because we don't have enough property to start designing these type of golf courses. And it just makes it so much more complicated. So look, now we're at a point, right, where everyone agrees. And for whatever reason nobody ever talks about this.

I'm not an expert on golf manufacturing lobbying. The only reason they haven't done this yet is because. of the golf ball manufacturers. Right. You can't tell these people who have now created $100 million industries with the golf balls

that you've put all this technology, you've put all this investment into this golf ball, you've created the best ball there is out there, and you could argue which one it is, whether it's the pro view or whether it's the other company's equivalent to it, and then say, oh, by the way,

now you have to change it, or at least we're going to change the rules so nobody's going to buy your ball because they all have to conform and buy this other one. That's going to massively disrupt the industry. I believe the USGA has been for over a decade now.

They've been, I think, investigating or doing research on the issue. Again, I haven't studied any of this shit. This is just common knowledge. If you don't realize that this is what's fucking going on, you're a moron. So what they have to do is they have to talk to these companies, come to an agreement where they're not going to freak out and say, hey, we have, this is, we live in a capitalist society. We have built this million, million, million, million, million dollar industry on this type of ball. You can't just tell us that now we have to change it and that we can't sell the awesome product. that we've made. So where is, is there any middle ground there or what is just going to be a standoff

for the next couple decades? You know what? I don't know, Trent. I don't either. I think it's, it's, it's good that it's becoming such a large topic because, I mean, eventually, they're going to have to do it pretty soon because every big name, every person with some pedigree in the golf world is agreeing on one thing, yet it's just literally not, it's just not being done. Well, when we've talked about this in a more general sense that it's good. This is, it's good when Tiger speaks on issues like this. He needs to speak out more on things that he believes in. Because for the most part, the only thing we hear him talk about is how his game is doing and he'll say it's progressing, which doesn't mean anything.

Or he'll tell you when he's going to be back, which is exciting. But it could be vague because he could get hurt again. So when he talks about these golf topics outside of his own realm, it's important. We talk about Yoda Tiger. The more he talks about things like this, he is the type of guy who can get a conversation actually started. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He carries the most weight.

His words carry the most weight. It's not even close. So that's, you know, again, that's why it's getting so much traction. But it is this weird dichotomy where this headline comes up all the time and nothing ever gets done about it, ever. And it's just a no-brainer. I mean, you want to preserve these courses like Marion that are not overly long and don't have the room to become overly long because you want these courses that have built so much history and that it becomes such a huge part of major championship. golf to stay relevant for the next hundred years.

Yeah, you don't want to just be all about distance, distance, distance. That gets very old and very boring, very fast. Yes. And now the other thing I think that makes it a little tricky is that, you know, this only affects, you know, a tenth of a percent of golf, right? Like these, you don't have to build 78-100-yard courses for me, you know? It's like pretty much the, that high 6,000 range is good for just about everybody. exception being the professional golfer.

Right. So it does get skewed in that regard, but it sounds like the golf community has agreed on a pretty simple solution that is just dial back the golf ball a little bit and then hold it at that level forever. And it becomes a situation where we'll be good. The course lengths will be good and we're ready to rock. Yeah. And also in those quotes from Tiger, he says, I can't believe how far I'm hitting the ball.

I'm back to hitting my full numbers and I'm not really trying to do that. So you kind of gave a breakdown last week about all the fusion surgery. Fusion, baby. Yeah, I don't know if you guys will listen to the radio, but the fusion. Oh, that's right. It was radio. Or maybe, no, I think I might have talked about it in the podcast, too. I think I did.

Well, I had a couple people reach out to me and be like, Riggs broke it down nicely, but I'm with you, Trent, because fusion sounds dangerous and horrible for a guy who's trying to play golf again. It sounds bad, definitely. You had a good point where you're like fusion sounds like you've just built a board, like a stiff board. It's like a board. They can't move.

Yep. But Trent, you got to compare the big. before and after. The before is the opposite of fusion. It's all kind of messy, entangled stuff that's touching nerves and it's very painful. When you fuse it, Trent, Dr. Riggs is back. You fuse it all

together, Trent, and it becomes this solidified thing with no leaks, no holes, no issues, and you're good and ready to rock, and that's Tiger. All right, I'll believe it when I see it. Also, I had an orthopedic surgeon reached out to me and was like, hey, I'll be your guy's guy, and I responded, and was like, what do you think of the fusion? He never

responded back. So, our guy, We have a doctor on retainer who just doesn't respond to our DMs now. Not a great doctor. Patrick Cantlay won the Shriners in Vegas. I wasn't following this whole thing, but the story is a must-mentioned and much talk about real quick. Patrick Cantlay has, first of all, suffered a bunch of injuries. One of the more highly touted amateurs amateurs coming up into the professional ranks, his best friend in caddy Chris Roth.

I think it was February of last year, was killed in a hit and run while the two of them were out on the town. So he has suffered just horrific, personal, and injury-related setbacks. Made it to the Tour Championship last year, which was kind of under the radar, I feel like, and then gets his first win this past weekend.

He did it. It was one of those. It was interesting because he built a couple shot lead, struggled coming in. There was a lot of win in Vegas. I think he made a couple bogeys coming in to get into a playoff. Then on the second playoff hole hit an awesome recovery shot from underneath a tree. I think you kind of cut one over the water that just rolled over the green.

He was able to putt for par and win. And Twitter was pretty much all in agreement on this, which is that if you're not rooting for this guy, you're a piece of shit. You're a big time piece of shit. He's also a guy who's been on the radar where it's more of a win as opposed to an if situation when he's going to win. you saw the outpouring of support from guys like Justin Thomas, everybody yesterday. So, yeah, Patrick Caley has been on the radar for a little bit. It's kind of when he was going to win. He finally got his first win.

Obviously, it's one of the better stories in golf. So hopefully he's just continued success for him because he could be yet another. I think he's 25 now. Yeah. So he's in one of those guys in his mid-20s who's just, you know, going to be one of those guys who's probably in Tigers way. Yeah, it was funny during the President's Cup, a lot of people were saying, you know, look how good the U.S. President's Cup team is,

and then a lot of people were adding on, and they're just going to add Patrick can't lay for the Ryder Cup next year. And then boom, he goes out and wins. I think it was the Valspar in Tampa last year where he was in the mix coming down the stretch. It was one of those tournaments around there, but I believe that was the one where, again, his story and his background got brought up a lot the last couple of years, what he's gone through.

So in golf, we latch hard onto individual storylines. Yes. The biggest thing we got. And he is as good a one as you could as you could want to follow. He's fiery too. He's fiery. I remember coming down the stretch of the Valspar, he was like not messing around.

He's not one of those guys like, well, you know, hopefully I get a win today. He's just like, I don't even think he spoke a word to his caddy to anybody down the stretch. He's a fiery dude. Obviously, has a great story. So we're big can't lay guys here. A lot of people say the first one is the toughest he got it in a playoff. So the monkey off the back, he'll have some confidence coming down the stretch

in events going forward. You got to think he'll win one or two next year at least and make a run for the Ryder Cup team. So watch however Patrick Cantlay. Justin Rose won back to back. He won in Turkey, and then he also won his most previous start before that, which was the HSBC in China. Rosie, I shot a shot at him on Twitter. So Rosie, I know you saw that. Had to see it.

I got to tell you, I think I saw you shoot your shot. We might have made fun of Justin Rose back in the day when the spring break guys were doing their thing. And then he was out by himself, like hitting balls into. Yeah, he had a shot off of like a yacht. on like the island over and like while that's probably the coolest thing in the world we made fun of him being like you know you couldn't crack it with the spring break boys so look we made fun a lot of people on this podcast that doesn't mean that would be funny if he was like listening to it was like fuck the four point guys spite uh we would love to have rosy on he'd be there there was um so i was out at marian a couple of marian a couple of times now on the podcast haven't really broken it down but they're telling the story of um you know if Chaucer Rose won the 2013 U.S. Open there and is unbelievably well liked by the membership to the point where he ended up joining there. And a lot of places will do an honorary membership for someone that wins such a major tournament there. And he, you know, immediately upon, he expressed his interest to want to be a member at Marion and then immediately said, how much does it cost and who I make the checkout to?

It was like, I'm not taking an honorary this or that. I want to pay full. I want to do it. how every member has to do it. And he's a member out there. The guy's see him a couple times a year. He brings the kids out there and all that. And people were just saying he's legitimately the nicest guy in the world.

You remember when we went down to the Zurich Classic and we kind of got lost a little bit and we somehow got behind the ropes a little bit and we just ran into Justin Rose. Almost knocked him off the sidewalk. We almost like, yeah, we almost bodied him right out of there. This was the famous when we got in trouble with the PGA tour. Oh, that is. Because we weren't supposed to be on site at the Zurich Classic with a camera crew. We just walked on like we owned the place, push those fuckers.

around. Yeah, it's amazing what you can accomplish when you just act like you're supposed to be somewhere. Yeah, we legit, like, got out of a cab, took a right with a camera crew and everything, walked right past some security guard, almost knocked Justin Rose off of the sidewalk like two days after he lost the Masters. And then we were just in the mix. Yeah, we shot a video.

And then we got banned by the PGA tour. Yep, which continues to this day. It does. Very much does. They come after our social media presence all the time. They are very ruthless with the social media. I laugh every time. It's like our adversary in this golf social media world.

Let me tell you something. It's a pretty big fucking adversary to have. Big one. Real big one. You have a funny seasoned assist letter on your desk from them. Yeah, I highlighted the parts where they said good things about us. They did. They complimented the podcast and the growth.

They did. They said something like, although we're really impressed with the growth of your golf platform, which I highlighted that part. Yeah. And then there's like three paragraphs that are bad. Yeah. Anyway, shout out to the PJ tour. Trump getting in the golf game.

Big time golfer always has been. Out of nowhere, he's posted, so he's posted one round to golf on his gin handicap since he became president. He posted a 68 last week just out of nowhere. 68. Okay. Thoughts? So, you know, I don't know what to say. Well, first of all, there's no way he shot.

a 68. No. No. Of course not. But there's no way that he shot a 68 and it's even funnier that he plays golf all the time. Everybody knows he plays golf. He doesn't hide it. He says he plays golf with people, all these people. And he never posed those scores and then just post a 68 out of the way. Like, we know you're playing golf, dude. Yeah. You play golf all a whole time. It's widely publicized that he plays a pretty good amount of golf. It's so preposterous that you just have to laugh and be like, I mean, all right. Yeah. Like, what can you do? He's the president. He's like,

All right. He's reversed sandbagging himself. He's, like, posting to make himself a lower handicap. Then when he plays matches, it's going to be like, or you're like a two handicapped. Well, I'm actually six or seven. I mean, you only posted a 68. The last year you played one round of golf and it was a 68. And he put some video.

Usually it's just, you can see there's pictures of him playing somewhere. But this time he, not only was there video, it's video that he posted of himself playing. A down-the-line shot of his swing. What did you think? In Japan with the Prime Minister Abe, and he played with my guy, Hideki Matsuyama, in Japan. This was my comment about it, was that you're only posting a video your swing of a 20-year good ones. No doubt about it. And Donald Trump, of course.

Trump is not looking and going, yeah, whatever, just post that one. She's like dissecting it and being like, I ripped that one. That was nice. I got to say he moves pretty well for being, what, 70-71. He's got much better mobility than I thought he would have. What I wrote, I wrote a quick blog today about his swing. What I wrote is that's good enough to get around. Oh, that's fine.

Yeah. His action, he can slap it around. It's not going to get him in too much trouble. He kind of, he brings it back way inside and has kind of like a wounded chicken type look. But then he kind of slots it decently and kind of releases the club. Actually, at impact, it looks pretty good. So I think that's good enough for 71. Like I said, if that was like a 55-year-old, even, I'd be like, that's not bad.

71, that's like pretty fucking impressive. Pretty good action. So, I mean, it pays off when you practice a lot. He's out there. He's grinding. He's playing. We got more in from the gallery that we're going to get to on Trump. But we have another headline.

We got Henrik Stenson. Kind of a weird storyline going on. We love weird shit. So we're here to talk about it. Henrik Stenson injured in a turkey photo shoot stunt, like a week and a half ago, a week ago, something like that. Who recently had a weird injury who got, like, hit on the elbow? Patrick. Patrick.

That's right. It was. It was. helping in practice he got hit by him so golf has some weird weird injuries so this one was bizarre they had to like put on capes and then come come down from uh like a rafters or so i don't know what they were doing we'll put a picture of the uh of the photo shoot on the foreplay instagram but anybody who knows what we were talking about or has any inclination knows what we're talking about because it is the most absurd golf photo shoot of all time they're coming down from the ceiling

it's very uh producer brennan says circta solet type of shit yeah which is exactly what it is like him, DJ, a couple other guys. So he hurt his ribs. He's going to miss the last two legs of the race to Dubai. He had a couple great quotes out of this. So envision the Cape situation, he wrote, or he said, I'm not Superman, even though certain people thought I was Superman, throwing some serious shade at people there. He also is apparently, quote, annoyed about being persuaded to do this.

And then it also said, while others, quote, refused to participate in the the escapade. So it seems like something that they went into being like, what the fuck this seems like unnecessarily risky? And then he gets hurt and is going to miss a couple of big tournaments. I mean, what it really sounds like is shout out to Henrik for being a good sport because everyone says that he's a great guy and it sounds like he is. When someone comes up to you, you're a professional athlete, your body is the way that you

make your livelihood. And they're like, we're going to hook you up on these harnesses and propel you from the ceiling. And you're still like, sure, you got to be a pretty good guy. You also have to take these quotes from Henrik and understand that he's a very sarcastic, funny guy. Very dry. So, yes.

While these are definitely throwing a little shade, I think he's doing it in a funny, playful way, but he's also probably a little rattled that he got injured, putting on a fucking cape and turkey and flying around like a clown. It's definitely both. I would say he's mostly kidding, but there is the part where he's like, I'm fucking hurt now, and that sucks.

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All right this week and from the gallery We're going to start with Lenny Lennie wrote an email He said obviously Trump just posted his 68 There's no way that he actually shot that So his question is

What do you do if you're playing with the president And he's shaving strokes Do you say something? Do you not say something? How do you proceed? You don't say anything Unless with guy like Trump I might chirp him more as the day goes long, so maybe he'll, like, yell at me on Twitter.

Oh, you're trying to... I mean, I just hit 100,000 followers, no big deal, but if I was... Oh, yeah, congrats, Trent Day. 100K. 100K, it feels great. There's just something about 100K, huh? It was. That's different.

I've been at, I mean, 99.6 for the last couple days, and, like, that is the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Like, I'd rather have just, like, a clean 90 than a 99.6. So I got 100K yesterday. Very exciting. It's been a labor of love. Twitter is a fantastic. place, so I'm glad to have that many followers.

I'm honored and humbled. But if I was on the precipice of 100,000 followers or something like that and I was golfing with Trump, I would chirp him relentlessly. So I would get called out on Twitter and hopefully get some sort of nickname, like chubby baby Trent, like fuck this guy on the golf course. Something like that. That would be the only thing. Otherwise, if it's any other president, I probably wouldn't say anything, but there is

the potential to get put on blast by Donald Trump on Twitter, and that is a legacy that I want. So you're saying if I'm playing golf with Trump, I have two goals. one is to get a shout out on Twitter from him and two is to get my own nickname, my own Trump nickname. Yes, and usually those are one and the same. Yeah, that's true. They come together. If he talks about you on Twitter and it's in a negative light, you're getting a lion Ted or a crooked Hillary or any other other ones that he's done. So with any other president, I think you just like, whatever, let it go because it's the president and it's an honor just to be out there.

But I want to get chirped on Twitter by Trump so badly. Yeah, I think it's tough. You know, and you got Secret Service out there. You're playing with the president. You're going to, what, call him out for shaving strokes. I feel like that's one. that people can have all kinds of theories, but when you're actually out there,

you're just, you're biting your lip. You're not saying a fucking, well, because you're not, if to get that invite in the first place, he likes you. So you would have to go to the uncomfortable place of being like, now he's not going to like me because I'm going to tell him this and this and this.

So you have to have a transition in your relationship when most people, myself included, just want to keep things status quo all the time. Again, this is all under the context of allegedly, if Trump were allegedly shaving strokes or cheating in any capacity. I'm hoping I'm hoping he hears this and gets mad

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Sad The failing forplay podcast Whose numbers Were way down Start making shit up So to To dovetail off of this We had another

From the Gallery submission. That was very similar, and I'm curious what you would do in this situation. We had Kenny from Denver, Colorado, who said he has a friend, good friend has, one of his best friends growing up, takes him out to a really nice course that he belongs to once a year. They get all kinds of hype every time. You know, we're going to have a fun match. We're going to go out there. Really nice place. They go once a year. Every time they go out there, Kenny catches his buddy cheating. Okay. So his question is, what do I do? I get this invite to this nice place. It's once a year. I get really excited about it.

I wouldn't be out there and weren't for this guy, but then when we go out, he's playing poorly. He's playing not up to the standard of the rules of golf. Do you say something? I don't think you say something. But then again, it really depends on the type of person you are. If you are a person, a purist who freaks out about these things, I don't have a problem either way. Those people who want to call them out, that's fine, but you might burn that bridge. You're never going to play that place again.

Me, like, whatever. If it gives me access to this awesome golf course And this guy's being You know what? You know what? He has to live with that I don't have to live with that The guy when he goes to bed and I puts his head on the pillow He's the one who's like, damn, I cheat a golf

I don't want to put that on me You have to deal with that I want to keep playing this awesome course You know I just thought of in my brain? What? Maybe you just cheat back Fight fire with fire? Yeah You bring fire to the fire

You join the fires Make a huge fire Just muddy the waters Huge fucking fire raging Everyone's fucking cheating and whatever. But is it an unspoken cheating or like... Unspoken.

I think it's unspoken. Maybe it's just, maybe it's spoken only in glances at each other. Oh. That would be like, what are you putting for here? And you give him a glance. And he's like, five. That is how homicides happen.

Because that just builds up and builds up until a stroke actually matters. And it matters a lot. And then it's just going to be murder town. I don't know that I've ever really caught any of my buddies cheating before. And cheating is very different than just idiots that play very relaxed rules or don't know the rules, which is fine. Like a lot of people, if you just play kind of like proprietary relaxed rules. Because you're talking about guys, you're talking about guys in matches, right? Yeah.

Okay. So that's a big difference. Yeah, it is. But again, if it's, for example, there's out of bounds and you just say, we're playing all out of bounds as like red stakes. Just take a drop. Not a big deal. That's totally fine and that kind of thing. And again, there's also people that will, you know, people that are maybe a 15 or 20 or

20 handicapped. They just like to drive around every once every three weeks, drive around in the cart, have a couple beers, have a fun little match with their buddies for $5 Nassau or something. And they might think if you hit a lost ball that you can just drop in that area and hit. They're not cheating. They're just like, that's just what we do. I don't know. What do you think? That's very different than someone who's like, oh, look a bird. And they like drop a ball out of their pocket. That's like significantly different. I think you don't tell him, but like I said, this is a guy who's going to have to deal with this in his own thoughts. He's going to be sitting by.

myself somewhere and being like, I'm a cheat, I'm the worst, and I suck. I don't know if that's enough for you, but. It's a tough one. There's no doubt about it. It's tough one. Good luck to Kenny. Next one, Jared, this is a pretty funny story. So, Jared redacted a lot of the name.

Retracted? Redacted? It's like the JFK files. A lot of the names because I guess one of his buddies was a caddy at Pabble for a while, and he had two really rich, like, tech moguls that would come and play, and they would play for an insane amount of money. and one day they roll up and on the first tee they said we're playing the ball today where it lies no matter what okay happy Gilmore style yep off the foot off frankenstein's fat foot you play the ball where it lies no matter what so front nine they don't have any issues back nine he can't remember exactly what it was but one of the guys

balls ends up on the cart path he goes take a drop and the other guy's like oh no no no mister we're playing it as it lies and the guy's like, I mean, I'm on the car path. I don't know. Yeah, but so pulls a club, uh, starts to take massive practice swing, sparks flying everywhere, trying to get the feel for it. Uh, clubs all messed up, finally addresses the ball, hits a phenomenal shot to like a foot. Ha! The other guy goes, the club's completely messed up.

And the other guy's like, oh my God, that was amazing. What'd you hit? And the guy goes, I hit your four iron. Oh! Put his fucked up his forearm, put it back in his back. That's very mean. I thought that was mean. That's as mean as it gets.

My main takeaway was like, I think you, like, you agreed to the terms. You were on a car path. You play the balls at lies. I mean, you ruin the other guy's club based on terms that you agreed to. Yeah, so he's definitely the asshole. So he kind of came off as the, it was a great line, but kind of a dickhead. Yeah, no, when you get to drop that line, it's, it's like funny. It's funny to us outsiders, but like at the moment he's got to be like, I'm going to kill this guy with this club.

Yes. But he also said they're rich tech mogul, so maybe they don't care. Yeah, but I guess for the rest of the round, the guy's forearms kind of messed up. That's also, it's like illegal to take someone else's foreiron and play their club. Certainly. So if you really wanted to get down to the nitty gritty, we don't want to get into too many rules. But you can't play with someone else's club. However, you grab somebody else's club.

It gets a little dicey. So kind of a wild story from Jared there. The last one we had from Ryan is just a classic walking versus writing question. He was basically saying, you know, I don't call me crazy, but I very much prefer, and I always play better when I walk and I carry my own bag and I'm focused and all that. This is very common knowledge. I think that it's much easier to stay focused, stay in the round, and kind of get into the rhythm of the round when you are walking. The main reason I put this in is because I wanted to talk about how annoying it is when you ride with someone who is in a very inefficient cart driver. Oh, yeah.

Most infuriating thing in the world. You get these fucking assholes out there that parked the cart like 50 yards behind the green And then they run across And then you all put out And you're like where's our cart dude Like oh it's way back there by the you know By the fairway bunker

Yeah at a certain point you You just have to take over You just have to be like I'm driving the cart I demand that I drive pretty much every time Because that's the thing like people Some people aren't as particular But if you are you got to be like I'm taking this and I'm going to drive it

Yeah so The cart one's interesting because Typically You know if I'm out It's very dependent on the crowd and the vibe. If it's like we're out here, we're boozing, we've got a Bluetooth speaker, this is going to be chaos, you just toss everything in a cart, you buzz around, not a problem. When you don't want to, pretty much anytime it's car path only, taking a cart stinks. There's nothing worse than drive into a 90-year angle from your ball, stop it on the car path, grabbing like four clubs, running your ass all the way across the fairway, hoping you got the right number, hitting right.

walking all the way back over to the car, driving up a little bit, getting out, doing it over again, stinks. Yeah. So the situation you described of the Bluetooth and the drinking, those are more my vibes. So I'm a big cart guy. Yeah. Walking, I would get tired very quickly. I'm not in the best shape, and I don't want to be sore. So I just want to drive around and get drunk in my cart and hit a golf ball.

It is amazing as a 30-year-old now, how sore I get from just golfing. Well, that's, I mean, you walk 18. That's not, I mean, not a short distance. No, it's no joke and it's a lot of swings and all that, but it's pathetic that like that is what breaks my body down. Like, it's going to be. Like, I walked for a little bit and I swung a golf club. You are now at your athletic level, you're going to be the same when you're 60. Like, you get tired.

Like 30 is might as well be 60 years old. Yeah. Because you get tired from playing golf. Yeah. So it's tricky. And everybody's different. I very much, I love walking. But it's also, there's some courses that just aren't made to walk.

You can't fucking walk. Right. But when there's a nice course that's made for walking, the tea boxes and the greens are really close together. I love it. I think it's very enjoyable. No, yeah. It's very much the vibe, like you said.

Like, if you just want to go out there and have fun and drink and listen to music, then take a cart. But if you just want to really, like, have a nice walk while also playing a little bit of golf, then do it that way. And my favorite thing, or my favorite thing about walking is avoiding the inefficient cart driver. You really don't like that. You just eliminate that frustration from your round, from your life. It's great.

those people are the fucking worst. Take a lesson or something. You read a book. They should give lessons on that. Actually, that's... I'll give a lesson. You will give the lesson. I'll do a video.

Because there is, it's not you go out there and you just drive to the ball. And it costs more time. Oh, certainly. It makes your round is slower when you drive if you have, or when you take a car, if you have idiot inefficient car drivers. People might be thinking, oh, you just hit a ball and you drive to it. There's actually a lot of intricacies to driving around a golf course. You got to be aware of where the whole group's at, where your carton's at.

You know, what's the best way? Do I go up and drop myself off? and he can drive up to his ball, which is nearer the green. And then by the time he gets there, I've already hit up. We might be able to think about all these things. We might have to have Professor Riggs break this down maybe in some sort of video format. I'll give a lesson. Okay.

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the Frankie Borelli the pizza maker The always riveting Very passionate Frankie Borelli the pizza maker We're going to break down Beth Page Black Let's go All right Now we are bringing in a four play legend

Frankie Bruelly the pizza maker Frankie Hello boys Frankie has proven to be a big ass diva In the In the podcast studio Breaking shit I'm having a rough day

I mean if we're going to be completely honest I don't think it's just in this podcast room I've been having a roughest You got caught staring at YP's ass. I stared at YP's ass. I fell in my chair when talking to Dave. It was on the lowest points of my life. And I came in here and all the arms from the microphones were breaking.

For any of a minute, it doesn't know. YP is a male co-worker of ours who posted a picture in his sweatpants with his ass, kind of the shape of his ass showing. And Frankie was just... I'm in the background. I'm in the background. I'm in the background. In a daze.

I was in a thousand, Stair. Like, I was just looking through the ass. You've had an interesting day. Yeah. But the reason we got Frankie on, I played Bethpage Black yesterday with some buddies. This crew, we've all actually been out to Beth Page. We played the Red Course earlier this spring.

Yep. And we had Frankie on to chat about that. For anybody who doesn't know, Frankie the Pizza Maker grew up. How far away from Beth Page you live? A couple miles. You called it your home course earlier. I did. It slipped right out, but it felt right.

It felt natural. You owned it. You didn't, like, hesitate. You were like, yeah, it's my home course. You owned it. It's okay. I don't think I've ever said that in my entire life until that moment right there. You're like, I played Beth Page.

I'm like, oh, my home course. I will say that whole area of Long Island, I feel like treats Beth Page like their home course. Yeah. I had a couple of stooleys yesterday. They were like, they're following my Instagram story. They were waiting for me in the 18th Green. They came out and they were treating Beth Page like they, like owned a Bethpage.

Like, how did you enjoy our course? That's our baby. And we always bring up the price. Like, oh, we can only play for $70 because we're residents. You have to pay $200. Dude, I went out with, so I think my roommate Lurch has been referenced on the podcast a couple times. These guys know him well. He's gone out.

He's a character. He's an absolute scene when you go out with him. He's a light on his feet, but he's a big guy, but he's light on his feet. Light on his feet. Big man. He's kind of an enigma. But anyways, he and I go out. We both have out-of-state IDs.

The two guys we played with, I didn't say they paid like $55. We paid like $1.40 or something. It's insane. We were like, what the fuck is going on here? I don't know why. I don't know why you can play a U.S. Open Course for like $60. It makes no sense. So, um, so that's the, the reason Frankie's on, he played the course, what, 15, 20 times probably?

I'd say between 15 and 20 times. And have you played a lot of the other courses a lot? Yes. My high school golf team, like our home course was like the Bethpage Blue, which is the shittiest one there. Is it? Yeah. So Bethpage Black, I, um, we love, people love when we do course reviews. We talk about courses, experiences, and all that.

Beth Page Black had been on my list for a long time. I kind of, I really wanted to play when we went out there the first time, but none of our games were in the right spot we weren't going to drop that kind of money we were all playing like dog shit it was early in the year so i've been playing a lot of golf lately got out there with this crew beth page black wildly impressed me i for whatever reason you just kind of think it's part of the the state park you think that they get it ready for the big events you know they've had two u.s opens they're now in the hands of the pga of america so they have a pga coming up at 2019, the Ryder Cup in

2024. I always kind of thought like, oh, they soup it up and get it ready for the big events. It's like a public track. It was the first public track to ever host U.S. Open. That place could host a U.S. Open fucking tomorrow. It's incredible. That course is unbelievable. From the first T-shot

all the way through, the holes are very distinguishable and memorable. There were a bunch that I was really excited to play from whether it's the video game or just kind of reading about it. I hadn't really realized how old Bethpage Black was is open in 1936 just because

it hadn't hosted something like a U.S. Open until 2002. Right. So it's like, you know, relatively new on kind of the major championship scale. But I want to get into the course, the first hole, my buddies that we were kind of playing with were saying they think the first hole is like the worst hole

out there. It's just nothing to it. I told you this. It's like wildly easy like you play the black. You're shitting your pants all day. I was telling him, there's a, I was selling rigs. There's a ledge that everyone can watch you on the first hole. Right.

It's a scene. It's a scene. And like most first holes, you always have that. I know like Bayonne has it very much. Bayonne big time. So like there's all these people just watching. And like, and like they all want to look.

They all want the pressure on you because they know it's going to be coming to them. All the people hitting behind you. Yeah. That's how I feel at least. Oh, it builds up big time. I'm going to watch the shit out of you swing at this because I know someone's going to be Are you rude for or against? I mean, like you want to.

Against. Oh, really? Yeah. Because that makes your shot look better. Even when I play with you guys. I'm like, fucking shanked this thing. So that I look better. Right.

Right. It's all relative. And it really breaks the pressure. Because as soon as somebody fucks up the shot, then it's like, all right. There's no better feeling than stepping up to the first tee and the first person dribbled the ball. Yeah, because you're like, like, oh, I can do that now. It's like somebody like, uh, open like the tap on like a soda. And it like releases that.

It's like, okay. That guy sucked. I can do better than that. Exactly. I can do way better than that. Anyone that says that they root for the other people to do better. than them on the first T-shot, like you're an asshole. Yep.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, big time. So it's got the sign, obviously, the warning sign. Like, we, you know, only highly skilled golfers are recommended. Everyone ignores because so many non-highly skilled golfers play that course. It's funny because when we were first out there, God, they had to be, what, May or something like that when we were out there? We were out there in May.

We walked over, saw it for the first time. It's one of those kind of, I always call it like a golf out-of-body experience where you orientate yourself to where you are when you see it for the first time. You're like, oh, shit, I know this hole. I've seen so many pictures I've seen it on TV and we stood there and we did watch like two or three groups tea off and I must have

50% rate topped it. Yeah, it's crazy. And you're thinking like, I thought you had to be like a fucking scratch golf to play this golf course. It's insane. So the first tee, it's it is a phenomenal first tea but it's kind of one of the more

forgettable holes in the course. The one thing that's not forgettable is how narrow the fairway is. And that really sets the precedent for the day because I feel like most courses, especially a lot of the private courses that are trying to, you know, keep the membership happy and the membership wants to enjoy it when they're out there playing all time. They don't, so they don't want to, you know, hear all kinds of bitching from the membership.

They, the rough is very rarely kept tough or at like a long, luscious kind of pace to it. And the rough at Bethpage was a fucking joke. It was insane how hard it was. Yeah, your foot disappears. It was, I'm not kidding. Like, we, you know, we had, in my group, we had like a three-hand. handicap, a six handicap, and two guys that are like tens. And we legitimately, if you were 140, if you were outside of probably 14, 150

from the green, you legitimately could not land your ball on the green from the rough. Because you'd have to have like a seven or six iron or something in your hands. And you couldn't, like you could not hit it. We were not good enough to hit it out of that rough onto a green. It's insane. From if anything more than like an eight iron, maybe a seven iron area. And this is why the pros say that Beth Page is arguably one of the hardest US opens to play. especially because, and you played in the conditions that they would.

It was windy and rainy. Wind was hit or miss. Like sometimes it was blowing 10 or 15, and then maybe like a third of the time it was kind of dead. But when we teed off, it was into the face, probably like 10 mile an hour wind, 55 degrees, and it was raining. We were like, let's fucking go. Like, this has been what I've been begging for all year at St. Andrews. Right. When I went out to Pebble.

And it's like that type of challenge of like get the fucking umbrellas out, get the rain gear on. It's going to be cold, windy. You're playing the hardest course. I pull up on the way, I'm there, like, rolling into the course. It's got a great entrance, by the way. Oh, the trees, the tree line. It's like a mini little Magnolia Lane. And I know that because I was at the Masters.

Yeah, right? Oh, yeah, we all were. It's an awesome roll in, like, the bar there at Beth Page. Cool, the 19th team. That's got to be one of the nicest public course bars I've seen. It's like kind of small, like that dark wooden feel to it. So we roll in, we have a couple beers. We pull up.

on the gin app, I'm pulling up to look at the course. The most absurd numbers ever seen. The rating is 78.1 from the tips, and the slope is 152. I mean, that means a scratch golfer is grinding to break 80. It's insane. That's fucking crazy time. It's a very, very, very long course. Yeah.

The rough is absurd. So we tipped it out. Now, listen, we played the blue teas. They're probably on half the holes. They had the blues all the way back. Half of them they had them like a T-box up. It says it's like 70s. 4.50 from the actual

Blue T's. It was probably around 72 or so for us, but it was wet and cold. So it was playing long as hell. There were three different holes. There were par fours that I had driver three wood in. And I mean, I'm notoriously, I'm not like a big hitter, but when I'm hitting it well, driving it well, I'm moving out there fine. I probably hit it $2.75, 280

or so. And I hit a couple really good drives on par fours and had like $2.25 in. It was just standing out there like, what the fuck is going on? Can I just run back to hole number one? quick story about the last time the Barclays was there. Yep. I don't, so it was actually the last time Tiger Woods played in the Barclays at Bethpage. Okay.

He had been paired up with Rory McElroy on a hole and me and my buddies are all there and I was like obviously freaking out because it's Tiger fucking Woods. Right. And we go out into the middle of the fairway. Now, if you're picturing the Bethpage Black Fairway, I don't know how many people know, but it's just a little bit of a dog leg right. It's narrow. and there's trees on the right side. Yeah, it's a pretty hard dog. Like, right.

It's almost like, it's almost like maybe a 90, not a full 90, but it's pretty fucking. If you play the drive straight out, it's not like you're like, you can't see the green. If you play the drive straight out and you clear that. If you roast one past the trees, you're fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm not thinking of like a hidden shot. So it's very open. Many people just go straight out and they just hit like a wedge in.

We went out into the middle of the fairway and we were all the way by where the green is. Rory McElroy. took a drive over the trees, hit it like 335 yards, over the trees, and right in front of the green. And we were all like, holy shit. And in my head,

I'm like, I don't know why, but I think Tiger Woods is going to try and do the same thing because he just saw a, Rory do it, and he's going to, like, pull it. He's not going to, like, cut it,

right? He's not going to fade it. Right. So I'm like, let's just go more towards where the turn and the fairway is, and I guarantee you he's going to, and I guarantee you he's going to hit it,

and I swear it, I am not even making this up just for the podcast, this fucking guy hit the ball right off my foot. So Tiger Woods, it was coming at us and everyone's like, it's your foot. Holy shit, holy shit, holy shit, holy shit. All of a sudden, boom, hits the ground,

rolls up right against my foot. And we did like the, our arms went all out. And we're like, oh, shit. Right? So we're rolling, we're all rolling back and we're making a circle. Tiger Woods is walking up. I take my phone out and they hate that, right?

Yeah, oh yeah. So I take my phone out and I press play. Naturally. I press play on my phone thinking it's a video and I'm holding. like this tiger comes up everyone okay and like i was gonna make a joke like ah my arm like buy me something but i didn't give me a glove yeah yeah so i didn't it was just in all of the moment tiger's taking his practice swings he's almost hitting me in the chin it was the coolest moment ever i'm like i'm like

hit me in the chin like just fucking clip my chin like just take my teeth out break a tooth just knock me out baby like just do it that would be imagine how good those like clubs would feel off your face oh my god tiger woods like a fucking tiger woods pitching wedge right to the jaw would be awesome. Yeah, it'd be great. Anyway, so he hits his shot, puts it on the green. I look at my phone, and I hit, I hit fucking picture. Oh.

So I had a picture of him coming and a picture of him going. Because you hit start, stop. And I hit start stop. And I could look back, I'll show you guys after. Maybe if I can find it, it was like three phones ago. But, yeah, I got nothing. I got no video. It would have been the greatest video that I've ever recorded in my entire life and I didn't

record it. That is absolutely heartbreaking. Devastating. Cracked another pressure. So to show you the difference is, Rory hit one over the trees 335 and had like a flip wedge in. Yeah. I hit a good drive.

Like I ripped one a little draw off the right hand side that like was in the right rough. And I had I think like 160 in from the right rough. It's tough. Oh, you're on the right side. I was on the right side. So you had a... I could hit it over the tree because I was enough back from them that I could hit it over

the trees. I was like three feet away from the fairway. The worst part about the first hole is that those trees are in for the average golfer. It's in your way no matter what. Like so you hit it to the left and you just can't see the, you just can't see the pin, you hit to the right, and they're just close enough where every shot's going to just tip them. Yeah. So second hole, second hole is a really good hole, a little like dog leg left up the hill. Yeah.

I cannot stress enough how narrow the fairways are. Like they legitimately keep them like U.S. open width. The second fairway is like a river. It fucking just goes right to left. It looks like a tiny little river that kind of like winds up, tough par four. And then I eventually, I want to get to, let's see, three. is the part three. Long par three.

It was playing like 225 or something yesterday. Every time I hit a bitch on that hole. I've never heard a good shot on that hole. I fucking hate that hole. Shout to my guy, Eric, who hit one on the green with like a five wood and then three jacked, which was maybe the TSN turning point in the match. Wow. Yeah.

He's already, he was testing. That green is like very impressive. We had two guys hit that green, which was really. One of them? No, I missed just short right. Easy up and down. No, we deal. Started par par par par.

I was buzzing. Wow. I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to shoot something in the 70s today. Hell yeah. And people aren't going to, I'm going to like Donald Trump, I'm and they're not going to believe it. And then I'm shooting 84. But then I want to get to the fourth hole is maybe the best part five in the Northeast.

The double decker. Oh, that hole is so fucking good. The view, too, I mean, again, this is one that I had seen a million times on pictures. I had read about it. A lot of, you know, people that are into, they're kind of snobby with course architecture. They talk about it, like Tilling Hass's, like, greatest. part five ever and they call it the greatest part five in the northeast and all that i didn't realize

where you could see it from for the first time which is the third green yeah walking yeah and you're like elevated up above the tea even which the tea on number four is an awesome view and on three green you're like well above that tea you kind of see it through the trees the first time and you're like holy shit yeah um when i played so i played it so many times i was i played it mostly when i was younger when I had more time. I was caddying and I would play in the morning. I'd catty in the morning and go play the black. That was like my schedule all the time.

I'd get out like an 8 o'clock loop and then go straight to the black as a single and get on. And this is why I was playing golf like a lot. Yeah. And I played the whites because I wasn't as long of a hitter. And then on the fourth hole, I'd go back to the blues because I wanted to hit off that top tier. Yeah.

Because in the whites, it's a flat drive and it's the worst. It's like I'm not utilizing how cool this. Right. So I wish we would have done that because that was one of the holes where the blues weren't all the way back. Oh, yeah. You got to go up there. They were like one T-box up.

Yeah. And so it wasn't as elevated. Right. But it was one of those, once we walked down there, it was like, we weren't going to walk back up. No. Have you ever put it on in two there? No. Yeah, that fucking hole.

That's important. And then, so the best is to get it on the, um, there's a little skirt on the right. So it kind of just makes like a turn around the bunker. And that's where I always aim. And then if you get it over there, I mean, behind that green is where all the guys in the U.S. open. Hit it. And they always get stuck because like it's a huge. there's a huge like gully behind the green

and a lot of the guys I always love it like they'll hit it up and it comes right back down they hit it up that's that fucking hole and it happens all the time it's really really hard hole that's the John Daly at Pinehurst where it was like the turtle bat greens and he putted one up the hill it came back down to his feet put it up the hill again it came back

down his feet and on the way back down he just smoked the ball four is a long hole it's tough it's got the double decker fairways and then you get up to the green it's a tough it's a tough hole man really tough hole that hole is awesome. The fifth is one of the, you know, it's probably in that, like,

there's a group of like three or four par fours out there that just make that course exponentially tougher and consider one of the hardest courses in the world. The fifth is one of those huge bunker right that kind of angles up the further right you go, the more bunker you have to clear. I hit as good

of drive as I could hit there and had 2-16 into the pin. And I was in the right center part of the fairway and I still had to hit a little bit of a draw around a tree. Wow. And I was just standing there like, I mean, I just don't have this golf.

It's not a golf shop that I have. I tried to hit like a slinging three iron, hit like a little chunky kind of block to the right. Actually, a miracle up and down from like 30 yards out. But that hole is phenomenal. And then just getting in, go ahead. If you want to keep going with the holes. Let's keep going, baby. I love eight.

Eight's awesome. Little part three. Awesome. They have that awesome looking fucking tree that looks like, it looks like George killed Lenny at the bottom of that tree from Mice and Men What a reference from Frankie Just like an epic tree

Look at this tree I'm showing Trent and Riggs right now Look at that tree That's an epic tree It's a perfect tree And everyone hits it Like I mean That I've played

It just hangs over just enough It hangs over just enough And you always just clip it It's crazy because I remember We're watching the 09 open They had that right bank Shaved pretty good to the right, like just past that tree.

Yeah. And I saw a couple guys hit shots that they came out of it and they were like, they were like rattled and it hit that hill and bounced to like 10 feet. Yeah, I love that. But then they also have the shaved front where it just goes right into the water. So that happened to Riggsie. Love that. I hit, uh, it's kind of feel good like you did something that happens to like most

yeah. Yeah, it did kind of feel good. Like, oh, classic design feature got me. Ah, shit, they got me again. Exactly what they want to happen. I did and that feels like. Like they totally fooled me. It landed.

I thought it was fine. It landed like a foot short of the green. thought it was fine, slowly started to roll and I was like, all right, that'll just dribble into the rough, not a big deal. Nope, picked up steam, things are going like 60 by the time it gets the water. You think the chorus architect, like, here's a ringing in there every time something that they put in place works.

Almost like when you say someone's name and like your ear rings. Yeah. I think every time someone hits the front of that green and it rolls in, I think like their ear just rings. Dude, it's also, it's a rewarding, like knowing that I rewarded the architect is a good feeling. It's a great feeling. But I also feel like such a moron because I fell, for the same thing that a bunch of other idiots have fallen from.

It was like, my ball's now in that pond with a bunch of dumbasses. But at least you get to say, like, you really played that course because everyone knows that hole and stuff that happens on that hole. You did it. Yeah, it was a classic PBF. I birdied seven, step up, hit one on the water on eight. It's like the most PBS. That's the classic amateur golfer move, the most classic move in the world.

Nine, get up to nine. Nine's got that huge bunker on the left. So one guy in our group took a caddy, and the caddy's like, you just hit it over that bunker. We were like, what? What are you talking about? But we took that line. He was absolutely right. Roasted one over the bunker.

Had a pitching wedge in, missed the green, flubbed a chip, made a quick bogey. But that's a good hole. And then you get to the back nine, and the back nine's even harder than the front. The back nine's tough. The back nine, the first, let's see, it was 10's, 10 was really tough. I think everyone in our group went driver three wood. One guy, I think, hit a hybrid in. But that 10 was playing into the wind and the rain picked up.

We roasted drives And legit, I think the Like we I was 2.30 out. The other two guys were like 220 and 2.15 out. Okay. And two guys hit the green.

Just ripped like I kind of duck hooked the three wood Into like a green side bunker. And then the other two guys just stand up and roast these three bits on the green. I was like, what is going on here? Nobody's made a bar in like four holes. These guys just roasted three. Roasting. But then, you know, we'll get through the early part of the back nine.

Well, 11's one of my worst memories of all time. Oh, is this the... This is where I found out. Oh, yeah, yeah, let's hear. So we got to hear this story earlier, but Frankie wanted to talk about it on the podcast. Yeah, so it's 2011. I'm 24 now. How old was I...

You would have been... Six years ago. You would have been... 18 years old playing the Bethpage Black. Nice chipper 18-year-old Frankie buzzing down, Bethpage Black. That math took way longer than a time. should have pressed to her like 18. I still didn't get there.

I just am trusting you guys. Yeah. I don't, I'm, is that correct? Yes, you're an 18 year old, you're an 18 year old,

18 year old. 24 minus 6, is that right? Yes. Nice work. So I was actually still catting at this time while working at the restaurant and, uh,

did one of my morning loops. Um, this is during the summer. The Yankees were playing. I'm obviously a huge Yankee fan. Derek Jeter is a couple hits away from getting his 3,000 hit. And everyone's got 3, 3,000 hit fever. It took him a little bit of a time. There was a lot of pressure on them,

and everyone was like, when's this is going to happen? They're playing at home. I think it was right before, like, a road trip, and, like, he had to do it at home. And I'm like, you know what, he's not going to get the hits today. Like, it's just not going to happen. He had to go five for five. He ended up going five, but he only needed like two or three. Oh, I think he got early in the game. So I'm like, you know, I'm just going to go to the, I'm going to go, like, I got an early loop, and I was working out perfectly for me to just go home and watch this game. But for some reason, I always got the feeling that I should just go play the black because it's awesome and I did it. So I end up getting out like 11 o'clock, whatever. I breeze through the front nine,

get to the 11th hole and I'm playing with these people from out of state because a lot of people come there and travel to play this as like an iconic golf course. So no one was from New York, everyone was from out of state. And it's easy to get on. Yeah, really easy to get on. So none of these people understood what I was missing. And I'm like, I'm talking to them like, oh, Derek Jeter's like playing today. I hope he doesn't get it. I kept saying, like, I hope he doesn't get the 3,000 hit because I'd be really upset. Right, as a big Jeter fan. Right, as a huge Jeter fan.

We get to the 11th hole, and this is like, I think I had created my Twitter in 2011. I wasn't using it at all. Right. But I got like 30,000 text messages and a phone call from my dad say, like, oh, my God, the greatest moment in Yankees history just happened. And I just dropped my bags as we're walking on like this little grass walkway that they allow you to have from the T-box to the fairway with fescue on either side. I felt like I was in the middle of safari. Like, there was just like brown fescue on either side of me, and like it felt like everything was. was just getting higher and I was just sinking into the bottom of the earth for the imagery.

I don't know if you guys can understand what I'm saying, but I felt like the world. Yeah, the world was tight little pass. I felt like the world was enclosing around me as I'm looking at my phone and like the world's spinning. It's like Derek Jeter's hit a home run. Did you pass out? It sounds like you're about to pass out. And I just like audibly gasped like, oh! And everyone's like, what's going on?

Like, is Frankie having like an 18 year old stroke? Like, is this kid about to like die in an early age? I'm like, Derek Jeter just got his 3,000 hit. And the guy's like, cool. Oh. Like, they totally thought I was overreacting because they're like, they're just out of state, like, people that just didn't give a shit. I'm like, you guys don't understand. Like, you hit a home run and, like, someone caught it.

Like, it was like the coolest moment. Someone has his ball. Like, it's like the, like, I remember seeing, like, the clip all over the place and, like, I'm like, no way did I just miss this. So you had to play horrible after that. I just didn't care about anything in the world except for what I was missing. Like, have you ever played the black sense and not thought about that moment? No, no, no, no. 11. 11 is my hole. It's my doom hole. I hate it.

My doom hole. I hate it. I hate that fucking hole. It's a really bad memory for me. It's like, it's hard to talk about. I can tell. Because, like, that's just a moment that I should not have missed. I watch all these bullshit games. Right. Like, think about how many pointless, regular season baseball games do you have watched. So many. You've watched so many forgettable baseball games. So many forgetable baseball games. Most baseball games are forgettable. There's nothing worse than missing a big moment. There are just thousands. And then you try and rationalize it and all your friends saw it. It's like, yeah, I ended up like, you're like, oh, like, I went to a lot of people, too.

Like, yeah, I did see it. Like, I went through a bad time in my life around that time, like, saying, like, I saw it. Oh, Frankie. Like, I was telling people like, yeah, I saw it. Yeah, because everyone's talking about, like, where they were when they saw it and what their reaction was. I was on a fucking fairway path on the 11-12. I was probably shooting, like, 120 that day. I was, like, I was horrible.

Like, for no reason I was golfing that golf course. Like, what was Jeter probably sitting at, like, 296? It was like 298. 2009 and 98. And I'm like, I'm going to go golf today. Oh, fuck, I'll go golf. No way he gets 3,000 today. On a home run, no less.

I remember I watched that. I was at my apartment in Cedar Rapids. I watched it. I did. I think there's anybody's going to listen to this and be fuming. Like, Frankie's been telling me forever that he watched that. Maybe. Maybe someone out there, but you know what?

I didn't watch it. I mean, you're a good man for admitting that. It takes a lot to admit something like that because that's a big moment. And there's nothing like missing moments. So 11th will forever. ever be Frankie's do-hole. I hope people out there. Yeah, if you ever play Bethpage Black and you're on 11,

take a picture and send it to Frankie. Especially if you're in that little fairway path between the Feskew, the whole world's closing on you. Send us a little Frankie picture. Oh, that's the worst. So we get through the back nine. 15 is the whole, everybody kept sure for me on my Instagram, sending me DMs.

Like, wait till you get to 15, wait until you get to 15. It's like the longest par floor of all time. Long, like slight dog leg left, fairway. Fairway looks like it's even smaller river than the fucking second fairway. Just this tiny little sliver out there and then it jets up to the left, super elevated green. This is on the other side of the road. Many people don't realize how big Bethpage, how much... The property is massive.

The property is so big. It's like it hurts your brain to think about how much golf course land there is there. And then on the other side of this road where you think it ends is the entire Bethpage Black course. Yes. It's nuts. There's only four holes, I think, on the side. That's where all the main courses are. And none of the course, it feels like squeezed or cluster folk.

It's crazy. It's like each hole has plenty of space between each hole. It's almost like each hole is its own course because, like, it has its own identity. There's so much land, and it's kind of been able to be built into the land as its own distinguishable thing. So the 15th is an unbelievable par four, really, really tough. I believe Phil made a devastating bogey there in 09, or he was making a charge, hit it into the left rough. you almost can't you just can't hit one on in the green from there again that was another one i have i actually hit a phenomenal drive there but even my my roommate lurch uh he had like two 16 out

you have to smoke a drive like up the right side and then you have to absolutely smoke your next shot with perfect accuracy yeah or else you're done because there's bunkers in the front and huge bunkers yeah and then there's just nothing forgiving on the back it's just like a sloped yeah i will say that that green too is one of the tougher greens is a two-tier green. Yeah. Where that front tier is really small. So we had a front pen.

And even a couple of us that did hit the green rolled all the way to the back. We had like 45-foot putts down a huge ridge. So that hole is absolutely brutal. I think what everyone hates by the 15th is that it's like the hardest hole in the golf course from most people. And it happens on the 15th hole. Like you're damaged and you're beaten down. And a lot of people like aren't used to like, I mean, you have to walk this golf course. You can't take like, you can't take cards.

So a lot of people that live around the area, it's like you're playing in the black. It's so long. It's so slow. you get to the 15th, it's like, oh, far. Yes. And you walk across the road, you can see the finish. You're like, all right, we're getting there. You see the 17th, which is awesome.

You're like, all right, we're at the final stretch. Here we go, and you stand on a 15th T, and you're like, I have to hit a ball this far, and then I have to hit it again this far. And then I have to hit it again this far. And then I have to like a 30 or 40 foot elevated green. Why are we doing this? And then I have to walk up that hill to the green. Like, I feel like I'm being punished.

You're like 40 over at that point. Like, what is going on here? But then you get to 16T, which is a. a very elevated T, really cool T shot. And then 17 is... I'd say 16 is the easiest hole in the golf course. I don't know if you would agree with me. I made double, so I don't agree.

But I could see that. It's such an easy drive. Yeah. There's really no... There's bunkers around the green. It's relatively, plays relatively short because the T's so elevated on that. And you just got done with the worst hole in golf, the 15th? Definitely.

I agree with that. I just, I blasted one into the right tall grass. Okay. And then I kind of chunked it. I tried to get there with like a five iron from there and I kind of chunked it into some fescue. and then chunk that into a green side bunker and failed to get up with that. See, for me, it's like a drive, like, eight iron and it always feels nice.

Like, I can finally just hit, like, a nice shot. I don't have to, like, be hitting driver three wood, like you were saying. We were saying, we were laughing on the car the way home. I think I hit into a green yesterday. I think I hit one wedge into a green. Yeah, that's insane. Well, two. Two.

I hit two wedges into greens the whole day. And usually, I mean, nowadays, with just the equipment and, like, most courses, if you can even on, like, par five's, too, are you saying? Yeah, so I, uh, because the, uh, because the, yeah the six it was never a time on a par five or you hit like a bad shot there were two of them that was that was the number four and number seven i had wedges into both of those i want to say on so on the six hundred and five yard like what is it 13th or 14th or whatever pull that is in the back it was like pouring rain at that point i hit driver three wood and then i was in wedge territory but i was in the right fescue and i tried to hack like a low eight iron under like a tree branch or

something so i mean i could have had a wedge in there okay But the course, like you say, like most courses you play, like, if you're driving the ball well with, like, the technology and how big the driver heads are and the golf ball and all that now, like, you're going to have a bunch of wedges into greens. And I drove the ball really well and had like four irons into greens. That's crazy. 17 is, you had 210 yard or so part three. That's the stadium hole where they have the awesome grandstands there and that's where every, that's like. I couldn't even imagine that place with the grandstands. It's awesome.

Yeah. So you guys have never been to even like a torn. No, I've never seen it. So what's the first one you guys will see? It'll be 2019 PGA Championship. And then, dude, we were talking. So we'll get to eight. Let's do 18 first.

17. 17. Bunkers everywhere. Everywhere. 215 yards. Like a narrow front to back, but pretty wide, left to right, green. So it's a tough one to hit with a long iron in your hands. I played it 20.

I played it like 15 and 20 times. I've hit that green twice. Yeah, I hit it one of the front bunkers that was actually under repair. so I got a free drop in the rough and like an easy chip up and down. That's great. Opponents were not happy. So you should have to put that in another bunker.

I was like, get the fuck out of here. No, you're strategically hit it in the one that you were allowed to take it out. That's what I said. I was like, well, you're changing the angle. It was made of, it was literally made of grabbole. I can't imagine telling you that you had to get rid of a bunker. I mean, I almost pulled the sword out of my bag.

It's like, it's like, I can't, like, I'd be quivering like, hey, Riggs. Do you mind putting it? Do you mind putting it in that other bunker? It's like, no, it's like, ah, shit. I'll go fucking go fuck myself. I'll just go run away and just like never say another word ever again. That's pretty much what happened. You need the angle.

It's exactly what happened. It is unfair. It's like you're just following the rules. Yeah. And the rules definitely benefited me there. But the bunker, it was under repair. It was literally made of gravel, like gray gravel. Yeah.

It was what the buck. So then 18T is maybe the most picturesque shot on the course. Yep. A lot of people actually don't love the hole. Because I guess for the pros, it's a really easy hole. Lucas Glover, I think, with, like, a couple shot lead on the 18th T in 2009, hit six iron off the T. I mean, like, J.B. Holmes, like, hit it over the green on the, when it was,

it was a lot of rain during one of the U.S. Open. Yeah, it was 09. It was like a mud fest. And he just, like, smoked one to, like, the left side of the green. Just like, and we were on the 18 grandstand, and we're like, is it a ball coming on us right now? And he just, like, fucking smoked one. Yeah. So that's one of the holes, the few holes out there were if he hit a good drive, it's just a wedge in.

Yeah. I mean, an eagle. Yeah, that's right. I forgot about that. Did you think of it when you were playing? Yeah, I told my buddies. Frank, you got a fucking equal here. From a fairway bunker on the right.

That's what, I was over there too. Fairway bunker on the right? I was like, what were you? Like, 140 or something. Yeah. I took like a, I think usually I would hit a pitching wedge or a nine iron. I think I took a nine iron and just picked it clean and didn't get a one grain of sand. and it just went up and it disappeared

and we walked up and it was just in that is heroic it's the only time I've ever walked up like I didn't know if it was in because it's a hidden pin yeah it's a it's a blind like the bottom half of the pins blind from the fairway so I walked up and it was just fucking in there wow let's go I did tell I told the guys that they were like

come on from a fairway bunker that's what you said it's like one of the best shots I've ever hit in my life lucky yeah I mean I would imagine that's trying it in but the 18th still happened it did the 18 there is incredibly picturesque There was, I heard somebody saying that they floated the idea of, for anybody that knows, like, the red, the 18th of the red course is an unbelievable hole, really good hole. So I've heard people have floated that you tee off from the T on black 18th, and they kind of angle the fairway to the right, and you hit to the green on red 18. Wow.

But then you'd have to cross over red one. Red one fairway. Yeah. It's tough. So I don't know how if they could do something like that, but red one is also a better hole than. black one. Red one's like the word. I hate Red one.

Really? Dude, it's like a 500 yard par four. Who wants to start their day like that? A pill to the approach. Who will just start their day? I didn't love nothing more than when all those tournaments were at Bethpage Black and then they just made Red 1 a par three because all the grandstands were on the fairway.

So all the fair way, like you go, you go play the red and all of a sudden they're like, oh, you guys got to go all the way up there and hit a really easy shot instead of this horrible shot. I'm like, thanks. Thank you. Yeah. Wow, I just, I thought Red One was all. But we played it straight down wind when we played it at the one time.

I mean, remember, I, like, hit a really great job. And then my second shot was put right into the trees. You're holding a knife from your hand. I was holding a butter knife in my head. That's right. And then you were like, I fucking hate this hole. I hate it. I hate it.

There is nothing like when golf you know you're going to hit a bad shot. You hate a hole. You always hit a bad shot. You always hate the hole. I've never hated a hole and overcome it. Really? Yeah, at every golf course I've ever played. Every time I've hated the hole, it's beaten me.

I've never, I've never hit a good first T-shot at Bayonne ever. probably played there like five or six times now. I legit can't do it. But is that a hole now when you walk up to it? And you're like, I'm just going to... Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to do well. I almost want to go like nine iron, nine iron wedge down, just so I don't hit one in the fucking fescue and lose my ball.

Right. I don't know what it is. I just can't. Like, I did it the first time I played it and I just can't get it out of my head. I always hit a great shot there, so I don't know what you're talking about. It's an easy fucking old. I give a three iron. I give a little like twirl and everything.

I look back and I'm like, who's watching? I love the first shot bail. It's a great shot. That's why I'm really flustered that I can't. I'm really confident. I can't hit it. Like I don't know what it is.

Yeah, one time I hit a three wood like 180 yards right. Caddy was literally like I don't even, like it'll take two hours if we go look for that. We have to go over four holes,

stop a bunch of groups. Like we can't find that. Yeah. I was like, all right, I'm hitting for birdie on the T-Suite. All right. That was Beth Page Black.

Anything else you got, Frankie? No, one of the things that I love about the course. I don't know if you felt this, though. You get a little wristband when you play the Bethpage Black. Yep.

And did you guys, like, hit the range or anything? Well, no. So when you play the Bethpage Black, you get a little wristband, I walk around that place. Like, I own the place with that wristband on, man. Because everyone's looking at you. Everyone's looking at you, like, oh, he's playing the Black. Yeah. I used to walk around with, like, more of, like, an upright posture as if I was a golfer,

like, a professional golfer. Like, a professional golfer. Like, around, like, around the facilities. Like, that's right, bitch. I'm playing black. Like, you know how, like, when you watch, like, a professional golfer, like, put or, like, like walk to the range. They just look like they're, like, floating and they look different.

Yeah. I emulate that when I'm playing the black, and I walk around real slow around the facilities. And everyone's looking at me like, that dude's going to kill it today. I was like, and I'm also like 15 years old, like walking around, like playing a course that I'm not supposed to be playing. Do you keep that wristband on, like, for a few days, or do you take it off? They cut it off. Oh. Which sucks.

It's weird. They cut it off? They put it on when you pay because you go through, like, it's a muny, you know, so you go through this whole process of checking in, paying, and then they put a wristband on you. You have to show 35. forms of identification. It is like buying a house to tee off at that page. Especially when you get a golf cart at another course. Yeah.

Let's say you play the red. You have to show your license to three different people. You have to show the yellow slip, the pink slip, a white slip. I'm like, what am I doing? What are we doing here? And the people that work there are the most classic, like New York kind of like Kurt dickheads in the world. Yeah.

They like don't take any bullshit. They kind of like go out of their way to make it like a little more complicated. It's like, dude, just we're here to play golf. There's a really old guy that works at the red and he's kind of like, that's his station and one day I thought I walked up on him and he was dead. He was just sleeping. His eyes were closed. Like in that little hut? Yeah. My friend and I'm like, hey, how's it going? And no response. And I look back to my friend. Shout out Jeff. And I look at him. I'm like, yo, bro, he didn't respond. This is like this year. This is this year. I'm like, he didn't respond. And he's like,

what are you talking about? I'm like, well, we're talking about him and he's just not responding. I'm pointing at him. And he has his eyes closed. And all of a sudden, I'm like, excuse me, sir. And I like, knock on it, no response. And so Jeff comes over. He goes, ha! And like, laugh. And he. And like, laughs and the guy just wakes up and he just opens his eyes and just goes like let me go next time he said this like just let me go he was so close to dead

yeah but he was just like busting our balls but for him to say that he knew that we thought he was dead it was a very funny moment I'll always remember that that's like you're scary close to dead if you're joking about just let me go like that guy just wanted to die on the golf course the guy at the starter on the black course yesterday we had we got there

did you guys have caddies by the way one guy got a caddy okay we rolled up like we're ready to go like 12 minutes before our tea time and the group in front of us had already teed off and they were already walking up to the green we still had 12 minutes till our tea time so we're standing there we're like antsy we're like that group's out of the way the whole the tea's clear the fairway's clear we're good to go and the guy but we couldn't he wouldn't let us go through the gate down to the tea until he cut our wristbands and he's just waltzing around and we're standing there the most antsy motherfuckers in the world we're like we've been watching people hit this tea shot let's go let's go let's go he wouldn't cut our wristband off until our actual tea time hit. That's insane. So we stood there for 12 minutes. Well, was it a ghost tee? Sometimes they send out a ghost for some.

On the black, that's like one of the only courses at Beth page that does it. And they'll send out just like, they'll block off times. To keep the pace going. To keep the pace going. He said it wasn't because our caddy was like this guy's being a dickhead. Wow. You guys should just go tee off, like whatever. So we were so antsy just standing there, made the first tee shot that much worse.

We're standing there forever. Like your first tea. Let us tee off, man. Remember your first tea in St. Andrews with that lady was yelling. And then you had. Oh! That was one of the crazy That was one of the craziest experiences

You have a very problematic first T-Gy guy, I guess Yeah I just bring problems I'm like nervous and jittery And then shit just goes wrong That lady, that was nuts That lady That was one of the funnier videos I've seen

I didn't know I thought I was in a war zone It's like lady I don't need the entire World to know that I just hit a bad shot It was like lady There's like There's like

This guy right in here Just hit a horrible shot Everyone in the vicinity Look at it It was like she did When Riggs told that sir on the podcast I was like he's being a little embellishing here It wasn't that loud

It wasn't that bad He watched it He's on my Instagram It's insane It's legitimately It's like my ears rang for a month after that I'd turn around like I don't know what I'd do

You can see in the video I try to grab my tea out of the ground And I can't I'm so disoriented I can't figure it out And I just like abandon the tea And like walk off stage basically Get me out of here

Bood you off the golf course That's best like She's legit four! I was like, lady. Probably a top three moment in your life, and this lady's just like yelling. I've been thinking about this moment for 20 years, and I get out there, and this lady just ruins my eardrums forever, yelling four and telling everyone basically that I suck. That was great.

All right, Frankie. Bethpage Black, a little breakdown. Yep. We'll have you on again soon. Thanks for coming on. Thanks for having me. I enjoy talking golf with you, too. If everybody's ever out of the 11th of Bethpage Black in the walking path, take a picture.

Follow them on Twitter. What? Frankie Borelli? Yep, and keep stealing those golf poles from those ranges Oh boy Yep Have you got how much backlash have you been getting I've got none and I'm ready to go back and do it

I took a time off because I thought there was going to be some heat Like I think people were looking out from it You were like a bank grabber You know laying low for a little bit Yeah, I was All right I know when I'm not too greedy Do you think you

Plus I also stole so many balls I didn't have to keep going Oh my God I had like I had 250 golf balls But it's not stealing right You pay for them Yeah But then you steal you pay for them

And then steal them I pay for the golf balls pay to rent them, but then you actually steal them. And then I just hit him on golf course. Yeah, and then abandon them for some other schmock to grow. Only the bad shot. I still, the guy every morning gets there and like, God damn it. Who is hitting all these balls in this par three?

You're such a mysterious, like, asshole figure to this guy. I know. You're his adversary. It's like the worst golf course. You have probably causing problems in his home life, at his work life. He's like sitting in a rocking chair at home, like, if those fucking balls are there tomorrow, I swear I won't lose it. He's telling his wife, like, if that fucking. He's out there again tonight.

I'm going to lose it tomorrow. Jennifer Love Hugh and I know what you did last time. We're like, I don't know. Where are you? I'm right here. Come at me. Let's see you to that guy. He comes in panting from work and his wife's like, he was back today, wasn't he?

We should like throw a GoPro on it on that golf course just to see his reaction. When I just like pepper spray the entire golf course with just range balls. He starts breaking shit. Like grabs his like breaks over his like his rake over his knee. All right. Thanks, Frank. All right. Thanks, Frank.

All right. That was Frankie Borrelli. The pizza maker, always interesting. We have to have, we're a chef Frankie on a lot more, basically. Yeah, he delivers every time. He really does. We also did the thing where we came in. We're going to go in for five, maybe 10 minutes,

talking about Bethpage Black, a 45-minute conversation. Yep. That's how it goes to Frankie. That's Frankie for you. Folks, next week, we are going to do something very, very unique. We are going to do the show like, it's going to be a throwback episode. We are going to do the show like it is a week from golf history. It's like a time machine.

We're going to get into a time machine. We're do a time machine episode. We have not settled on which week we're going to do. However, there are examples like 2000 U.S. Open Week when Tiger won by 15 at Pebble Beach. There are examples like 2001 Masters when Tiger completed the Tiger Slam. We are going to do the entire episode, start to finish, headlines, cultural references, everything you got from that week, like it's that week. It's going to be like we literally are recording the podcast. 20 years ago or 15 years ago.

Yep, it's a little experiment we're going to try. I think it's going to be great. We're in the golf off season, so why not try something? I'm incredibly excited for throwback week. Here's what you guys do. Hit us up, give us suggestions for which week in golf history that you think next week's throwback week should be based off of, which week we should go back to.

Again, we already have some ideas in our brain. But send us submissions, send us ideas. We're going to, once we lock down this week, We will post it. We'll probably find out in the next couple days. We'll make a decision. We'll lock it down. Yeah, because we've got to do some research.

We've got to do some research. We're going to do some viewing. We'll watch highlights and kind of break down how the tournament goes that week and just relive the whole thing. We're going to give our commentary. Like I said, we're going to read headlines. We're going to read stories that we're out building up to it. We're going to do the hype. We're going to do part of the show is going to be the hype leading up to this tournament.

And then the other part of the show is going to be our reaction once the tournament has concluded. Send us your submissions. Get involved. Throwback week next week for the Four Play Boys. Very exciting stuff. And then after that, we'll have just a couple weeks of podcasting before Big Dick Eldrick is back. Let's go. Let's go.