Fore Play - BMW Championship Week w/ Harold Varner III
Episode Date: September 11, 2017Harold Varner III joins the boys this week to chat about retaining his PGA Tour card for next year, the weirdest things he's heard from the gallery, his thoughts on The Bachelor, and much more. In Fro...m The Gallery, Riggs and Trent talk about acceptable logo combinations on the course, playing a solo mid-week round, and take on a new hole in one or not scenario. Riggs also played Liberty National just a few weeks before it hosts the Presidents Cup!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod
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Riggs and my friend Trent.
Hello.
Hello, Trent.
How are you?
Good.
How are you, Riggs?
I'm doing well, man.
A lot to talk about on this week's show.
We got Harold Varner the third on.
Yep, guy.
We've been wanting to get on for a while, so he finally got him, and he was great.
He was fantastic.
We opened up with an aggressive race question.
So you have to stay tuned and see how he reacted to that.
We're getting ready to hit the home stretch here.
We've got the last two FedEx Cup events, a ton of money on the line,
a lot of the big name talent right in the mix.
We've also got the President's Cup coming up right after that.
I this past weekend was able to get out to Liberty National and see the course.
We are going to talk about that.
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All right.
So, yeah, we had a little bit of a week off this past week on the PGA tour.
It was kind of nice.
It was nice, but it was strange.
Yeah, it's weird.
The tour just goes, goes, goes, goes, goes.
And then all of a sudden there just was nothing on.
I mean, I understand.
I mean, you just fill that void with football,
but still you kind of want to flip back and forth to golf,
and then there was just no golf.
It was weird.
The biggest thing, I guess, was probably the Walker Cup.
It would have been a bigger thing and had more of our attention,
had it not been an absolute shit kicking.
U.S. just absolutely trounced them.
I think it was 19 to 7 over in LA.
Two years ago, we had gotten trounced.
I believe it was 16 and a half to 9 and a half.
You know, this thing, it's every two-year deal.
it's amateur, so you're going to have a lot of turnover and all of that.
Yeah, I saw a couple highlights, but again, the thing, I think they had like a fucking
11 to 5 lead or something going into the singles.
And so, you know, it's just kind of a shit kicking.
Anytime Americans are beating up on non-Americans, we love it.
Yeah, it doesn't matter what sport, doesn't matter what it is.
America, America, America.
Feels good.
Feels good to always get the red, white, and blue getting a W.
I guess, to kind of speaking of America, U.S. Open, we had Tiger Woods at sighting.
at the tennis U.S. Open here in New York.
Looking strange that I did not notice until you pointed out to me.
When they showed him in the booth, he was wearing all Raider stuff.
I think that's what drew me away from it.
I saw him wearing all Raider stuff, but you pointed out that he looked very strange in the face.
Face doesn't look right.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know why this didn't get more talk, more play.
His face looks like fucking fake in pictures.
You know, somebody was saying I think he's just old.
It looks like a little bit more than just an old dude.
It might be that he's old and now he's getting Botox.
And they're just shooting his face full stuff.
Because if you go look at the pictures, everything's too smooth.
Everything is way too smooth.
It's just not right.
His face does not look natural.
It didn't look right.
It didn't look correct.
If you think back to when he was, the last Rider Cup, when he was like an assistant captain,
he looks, he's always got the beard.
He's got a little bit.
He's looking scruffy.
That was kind of like savage like Mac Daddy Santa Tegger.
A little bit, yeah, which is good.
That's, I think, how he's supposed to look now that he's, you know, in his early 40s.
But if you go back.
and look the way he looked at the U.S. Open, something's going on.
I don't know if it's the leaked dick pick that kind of sent him down a weird path where he's
like, I got to start looking better.
I don't know what's going on.
Yeah, I couldn't decide either the Raiders' quarter zip that he's wearing.
I mean, you know, it was kind of cool, but also kind of like,
like, very dad-ish, very, like kind of grandpaish.
Yes, he was there with his kid, so I don't know if that's wrong, but it was like,
the whole deal is just fucking, well, I would have preferred not to have seen Tiger sitting in the box,
in the doll's box.
You know, I guess he's up here.
He's escaping from the hurricane, which makes sense.
But it just, it wasn't, I didn't see that and go, oh, we're going to win the grand slam next year.
I do not say that.
I do like that him and all are friends.
I always think it's very cool when superstar athletes from different sports or friends with each other.
Because I weirdly think of it in the context of, in like 200 years from now, people are going to be looking back.
And they'll be like, remember how good Nadal and Tiger Woods were?
And, oh, they were good friends.
He was sitting in the box at the U.S. Open.
I don't know why I think about it like that.
shit up, huh? I do. I fuck
if he's in the box, the year. Oh, I eat that shit
up. You know, I went on the T-box at the
American year. Okay, well, you know that I feel that. I know
that I feel that way, too, but I like
the thought of, in the future, people
being like, Nadal and Tiger, they were buddies. Tiger was in the box for Nadell.
I thought he was boys with Fed. I thought he was, like, really good boys with
Federer. Maybe it is Fed. He just friends
with everybody? Well, I know he was in Nidal's box, though,
because Fed had got bounced by
by Del Potro, but...
Oh, well, I only know this, because I bet on these things. That was
spicy. Yeah, you like that? Del
culture. No, but I know what you're saying, but I eat that shit up. I'm a, I'm a peasant, I'm a plebein. It's what it is what it is.
All right. We've got, there's a little story here. A couple people reached out to me from the, I think the Texas athletic department. But they have one of their guys who he broke or he set the course record at Pebble Beach.
Last week, I believe it was last week. I want to say it was 61.
If I remember correctly, it was 61.
And the way he did it was he made like a 45-foot bomb on 17,
which is obviously one of the toughest part-threes in the game.
And then he believed or he thought that he needed Eagle on 18 to set the course record,
but he actually only needed it birdie, which he found out going up the fairway,
and ended up making like a 10-footer for Bertie or something to hold the course record at Pebble Beach.
That is.
When I first heard the story, I was like, okay, cool, whatever.
I started thinking, I mean, you've got the course record at Pebble fucking Beach?
It's crazy.
It looks like he's Texas Tech.
I don't know if you said Texas Tech.
Texas Tech.
Okay, Texas Tech.
And he's got a sweet name.
His name is Hurley Long.
I did see that.
Great name.
And it was a 61.
Yeah, it says you poured in a 45 footer on 17 and then sank a 10-foot birdie on 18 to fire an
an unthinkable 11 under 61 at Pebble Beach as a college kid.
Is that the copy that it wrote there, unthinkable?
That was not Trent's coming up with unthinkable.
I've never heard you say unthinkable in my life.
It's the copy.
Unthinkable 11 under.
Texas Tech.
So the Texas Tech people are not going to be happy that I started with there.
We'll bleep that out.
That seems like the type of thing they get very mad about.
Radio Bren, when you're going to have to, there's a part when I'm going to go Texas and then you're going to have to bleep it out.
Maybe we'll even have you say tech afterwards and we'll like, we'll patch it.
You're right.
We'll record just me just going.
We'll patch it.
Tech real quick.
So yeah, 61.
He's got the course record now.
That's insane.
That's insane.
Quick little announcement.
We are going to be in Louisville, Kentucky, this weekend for the Natty Tour.
Shout out to our guys at Natural Light.
Big Smiley Kaufman guys, Smiley's Army.
For those of you that remember, we were able to go to the Masters all week with the Natty guys.
We had the Natty Shack down there, which was, by the way, an unbelievable time.
It was.
I think back on that, very good times.
Very, very, very good time.
They took the Midas, this Midas Repair Shop and transformed it into just a massive
party right out to the gates of famed Augusta National.
That's the beauty of natural life.
They, them in Barstool, we are a perfect pair because they took a mitus and they turned
it into a party.
That's something Barstle would do.
We had like a big pig roast.
We just, anytime we're around Natty, we just have a really good time.
It's awesome.
We just have very, very good time.
I would imagine Louisville will be no different.
So we're going to be playing golf Friday afternoon in the Louisville area.
We're then going to be around town Friday night.
We're going to be tailgating for the Louisville Clemson game on Saturday.
Which got bumped at prime time, so we'll be drinking all day long.
Day drinking.
Love day drinking.
It's going to be a long one for us old geysers, but it's going to be fun.
We're going to be hyped up on adrenaline.
We're going to be drinking some natty light.
So can't wait for that.
Look out for us if you're going to be in the Louisville area.
We'll be there with our guys, Smitty as our third.
A little drive-time reunion.
Boondoggle boys.
Boondoggle boys.
Yep.
That should be fun.
So we're traveling.
Again, that'll be a good time.
Look out for us if you are going to be around.
I also want to comment quickly about Scotland.
Obviously, we talked about it at length last week,
but I had a bunch of bunch of bunch of people reach out asking me how much it cost to do what I did.
I went, you know, four days, four nights, I played six rounds.
I had a couple rounds comped.
None of the more expensive ones.
So it wasn't that big of a deal.
If people want, they can email me and I'll send them more of a detailed breakdown.
I'm, there's always this stigma about never telling, like talking about cost.
I was going to say, you should just say.
It cost me $2,408.
Okay.
Is what it cost me.
I think that's what people want.
They want the actual number.
Yeah, there's always the stigma like you're not, like, everyone's always, like, really vague about it.
I was actually just going to, like, post it, but I'll just say it on the podcast.
Yeah, people are weird about, like, salaries and stuff like that.
For a trip like this, which you're recommending to other people, I think, yeah, you should definitely just give the amount.
And that number seems to be stunning people.
Everyone thinks it was, like four or five grand.
That seems low.
When I heard it, I thought you were going to say around four.
So that includes my flights, my bed and breakfast, my rental car, all of my greens fees come out to $2,08 American dollars.
There's other things that people, you could include, like, I don't like to include food and beverage because you're going to eat and drink no matter where you go anyways.
Yep.
Whether you're at home, whether you're in New York, whether you go on vacation somewhere else, whether you go to Chicago.
It was generally way cheaper than in New York.
Also, I opted to take a couple of caddies here and there, which are.
You know, anywhere between like maybe 70 and 90 bucks around.
So that's a very preferential choice.
So you can add a little bit to that.
Are the cars sweet-looking the taxi cars?
Are they like, I'm picturing, I don't know what I'm picturing, but I'm not picturing American taxi.
The taxis are kind of sweet.
Yeah, the taxis are cool.
I only took one, and it was when I came home Sunday night and I was blackout and don't remember it.
Oh.
But they drove around me, and I saw them.
Okay.
Yeah.
But they're there.
They're kind of cool.
So, yeah, I can send people more of a detailed breakdown.
If they want one, shoot me an email.
I'm happy to respond and help out.
Rave reviews for your boy on his Scotland trip.
People like that.
Yeah, I know you were a little worried once we got done because you talked and talked and talked.
Yeah.
Which, I mean, it can go either way, but everyone loved it.
It felt very selfish to just sit there and talk about what I did for 75 minutes straight or whatever was.
But part of this whole thing is we get to do things sometimes that other people don't get to do.
And this is a trip that other people can do, but you actually did it.
And people want to hear about it.
And I think you probably motivated a lot of people to go and do it themselves.
From the response of God, it sounds like I have.
Trent and I are also going to do a little bit of an experiment.
We're going to see how well this last week's podcast did, which it seems like it did really well.
Yep.
And if it did, we're going to use that as leverage to convince all sorts of cool golf destination places to bring us there for free.
Yes.
And we will document it and talk about it on the podcast.
So make sure that you downloaded and listen to last week's episode because then we will live a cool life and tell you about it and everyone will be happier.
I love all of that.
Yeah.
That's just smart right there.
Moving on, we have got the home stretch here, Trent Daddy.
Yes, we do.
Man, we got after three weeks from now, we're pretty much going to be fucked for a couple of months.
Yeah, we are.
I don't know if we've talked about it, but we, I think we have been avoiding talking about it because we're so fucked.
Yeah.
The podcast will go on, I will say, and we actually have a lot of really cool ideas like bringing on a bunch of caddies from different courses, catty stories, different people that aren't necessarily professional golfers.
But I would imagine we'll sprinkle in some interviews.
views here and there. Definitely. Because those guys be in their
off season. That's what I mean, yeah. So it'll probably, we might
even be able to get bigger guests when they're not playing
because they are not playing. Definitely. So a lot of people
have been asking, a lot of people have been concerned.
The Ford Play podcast will go
on. It will go on unabated.
I'll fucking sit here. I'll talk about whatever
I want on the off season. We might do
a million from the galleries. We are going to do
whatever the fuck it takes to keep this podcast
going. That's right. What? The business people
ask us that or is there any time you guys aren't going to do
during the holiday season? Fuck no. No, we don't
stop. No days off as our fielders
leader once said. Do you know we are so
committed to just sitting here and talking about golf
for an hour every week. You will not
be missing us. We will be here.
So, final stretch.
We got the BMW this week. We've got the Tour Championship.
The final week, I did just look in the
standings for the FedEx Cup, which
I've been raving about, and my original
comments raving about it. You are now
very well. You're now just taking victory laps
with this, how well it's going, so you can talk it up,
talk it up, talk it up. Our two winners have been
Dustin Johnson and Justin Thomas
and the standings, one through six right now, are Jordan Spieth, Justin Thomas, Dustin Johnson, Hideki Matsuyama, John Rom, and Ricky Fowler.
Those are some good names, my friends.
That's star fucking power right there.
That is what you want.
That's unbelievable.
That really is unbelievable.
I cannot believe it.
And then, you know, a week after that, we're going to have the President's Cup.
I was fortunate enough yesterday, Sunday.
We're recording this on Monday.
On Sunday, I got out to Liberty National.
I had a pletron brought me out there.
Really nice guy.
We had a blast.
Yeah.
I do get invite chamed a little bit online, so I do want to clarify that Trent was invited,
but opt to do blog and work instead.
Oh, yeah, I was going to clear that up too.
I was invited.
Riggs was very, very nice to invite me.
Yep.
But I wanted to sit and watch football and re-blog a Nate blog that I didn't see until later that he had already.
Great thing to re-logged.
It was.
It was.
I didn't see it until later.
I was like, this is awesome.
How was no one blog this?
and then I think Keith sent out a tweet at like 9 o'clock and was like holy shit
Nate Dog blog like seven times I was like oh I'll check out those and I was like oh fuck
there's the one of them there's the one but it was it was an unbelievable clip so I thought I had to
blog it twice that's a good job trip but I was invited Riggs was very nice but I wanted to sit
and watch football just wanted to clear my name because I'm like I'm being I'm being invite
shamed well and I'm the very I'm the guy oh I'm lonely I'm this and that so people are like
you should ask Trent and you do I just we don't publicize until you get shamed people are
now so upset about it that they like DM me
really you're gonna fucking invite
because people are concerned about you
Trent people like you I I like you I like
them back I also have gotten a large
amount of DMs since the loneliness
saga that if people are like hey if you just
want to come hang out like that's no
I mean I again it's
it's like two things like I appreciate it
but I'm just I'm not gonna do that you actually
taking kind of the bold step of going and doing
New York stuff really
for whatever reason unwarranted
I believe brought on
this cloudy stigma that you are like a real depressed loner.
Like that I walk in every day.
I have like a hood up and a hat down.
I'm like I hate everybody.
I hate everything.
I am living like the best life of that I could have imagined and people think I'm lonely.
You're a very happy person.
I am very happy.
I think it was the John Mayer by yourself that people couldn't get over that.
I'm willing to admit and I did at the time that that was a tough one.
But I don't regret going to the concert because it was amazing.
Right.
But I do remember distinctly standing at that arena as he started playing slow down.
dancing in a burning room being like, if I make this public, it's going to be weird.
Yeah.
And I did, and it's fine.
I'm not lonely.
I'm a very happy person.
And Riggs invited me to golf.
I did.
So Liberty National on Sunday, it was my first time out there.
You know, the whole place, first of all, playing a place when the stands are up and it's ready for a tournament is one of the most, you know, unique, crazy experiences.
We did this at Glen Oaks as well.
Yes.
It was unbelievable.
Yes.
is a strange feeling.
It's very, it's almost kind of eerie because the, the stands when they're empty, really
create like a calm quietness because sound doesn't really travel outside.
You're kind of in these little amphitheaters.
Yep.
So it's very interesting.
The first tee going up there, especially at something like the President's Cup, you know,
they build the first tea at these things at the Rider Cup and the President's Cup to be,
you know, kind of a stadium type atmosphere, 360 degrees basically covered.
So walking up there and hitting a T-shot was very cool.
The course is in unbelievably good shape.
It was in the best shape of any course that I've seen.
I think that the closest to a main event or a big event that I've been as I played Bay Hill like six or seven years ago,
like two weeks before the Arnold Palmer Invitational.
And I've never seen anything like the shape that Liberty National was in.
They also, you know, for these types, for the President's Cup,
they want there to be a lot of birdies.
They don't want it to be crazy difficult like they do for, you know,
maybe the barclays, whatever that's been out there, whatever.
Right.
So the rough and the fescue has been kind of cut down a good amount.
So it was very playable.
It was very fun.
They do, you know, kind of this new trend that's really taken off in the last 10 or 15 years
where everybody shaves around the greens down really low
so that you have a lot of different options like bump and runs and all that.
They do that on pretty much every hole, which is aesthetically pleasing and fun to play and all that.
So I think the course is going to yield a lot of birdies.
It's going to be really fun to watch.
The views are spectacular.
The clubhouse.
So I was a little skeptical going in because they have this giant, like, modern clubhouse.
It's made a fucking glass and it's like, you know, they went the opposite route of kind of the old traditional, like, you know, stone clubhouse.
Yeah.
I was a little skeptical going in because it's.
It just doesn't feel very, you know.
Oh, it's super modern.
Golfish.
I'm looking at it for the first time.
Yep.
It looks like a fucking spaceship.
Dude, it is fucking bad ass.
They did it perfectly.
Even in the locker room, they have, like, the main hallway in the locker room.
They built a window at the end of it.
So, like, at any point when you're walking through the locker room, you can look out this window and you see the Statue of Liberty.
Oh, that's clutch.
It is nice.
That's good architecture.
So the place is great.
The, they're kind of, they're rerouting it a little bit.
Because, so, like, the 18th hole there is maybe the most iconic hole there.
It's a really tough par four.
The kind of doglegs slightly a little right, right on the water and ends, finishes towards the clubhouse.
They, I think they're playing that as number 14 now.
And they swapped, I think, what usually plays as, like, the fourth or fifth hole there is going to be the par three, 18th hole.
And the reason that they did this is because the usual 18th,
is such an iconic awesome hole
that if you actually play it as the 18th
that won't get that much play
because matches historically don't go to 18.
Yeah.
So they kind of swapped some of the holes
so I'm all confused in my small brain
can't figure it out which holes actually which.
But they did a really good job with it.
The first hole is this fucking awesome par four.
Water all down the left, elevated T,
O.B. right.
The creek goes all the way down to the green
and it's this picturesque tough par four.
So I think that's going to play
as a perfect, perfect opening hole
for such a venue.
So it was cool.
I did have a very weird dynamic this weekend where Ian Poulter was at both courses that I was at.
Very fucking bizarre.
Yeah.
We've said many times that we love to, you know, sit here and throw stones from our glass podcast house.
Yeah.
But when you're actually there in person, it's very difficult.
We ran into this a little bit when we were, where were we?
We were in Zyrk Classic.
Bryson D. Chambo.
Yeah, Bryson DeCambeau.
And then recently we went to a tournament.
We also saw Ian Poulter.
I'm a coward.
I'm a coward.
That's what I'm learning about myself.
I'm very internet muscles.
I'm behind the keyboard.
I'm a keyboard gangster.
Big time.
Because then I see these guys and I'm just like, shit.
They're people, unfortunately.
Yeah, there is unfortunate.
With hearts and minds and flesh.
So I just, I turtle.
And I don't like that about myself, but it happens to be true.
Yeah, I was out at Bayonne on Saturday and the first time I saw him and I was, I was playing with these guys.
We had a couple drinks.
Guys were like, let's go chirp him.
And I was like, you know, I don't think at a golf club, private club, a special.
you can just go chirp the guy.
They'll be a really bad look.
But we did drive by on the way to the ferry in a cart, and Pultz is walking.
And one of the guys I was with gave a USA, USA.
And I did kind of a, hey, Pultz, big fan.
And then artistically turned the camera back of myself and shook my head like, not.
You're like Picasso.
Which was as cool as I was able to get.
So I thought that was my way of not actually chirping and Poulter in real life, but chirping them to the camera.
Yeah, again, cowardly.
Totally counterly.
Very.
The USA Chant's perfect.
That guy who did that because that's something he probably gets all the time.
And it's not vicious.
It's just it's playful.
Because if you go up to somebody and you're like, fuck you, man, you're the worst.
Which I think Poulter is, again, podcast gangster, keyboard gangster.
He is the worst.
He tries to get people fired and stuff.
He does.
And he's actually gotten people fired.
But in the moment, that's what you're saying.
You're at a private club.
There's nobody around you.
So you're not going to get laughs from the gallery.
You're not, you're looking.
In a moment like that, you're looking to, like, roast somebody.
It's like malicious at that point.
When you're just like,
very malicious.
You're just like going up to someone when they're by themselves
or they're playing with their buddies or whatever,
that's malicious.
Yeah, very.
So USA, perfect.
Yeah, the guy gave him a little USA and it was funny because you could tell Poulter,
like Poulter could tell that some people were driving by that we're going to know who he was.
Yeah.
And we're making some noise.
And so he went to give the classic like little hand up like nonchalant salute.
Thanks for being fans.
Yeah.
And he did a double take when it was like we were like USA and chirping him.
He totally didn't expect it.
It's like the fuck do these guys say?
And then just like that, we were gone.
So you can actually go find the clip.
We'll post it once the podcast is out.
But you can find the clip online.
You can see it at Foreplay Pod.
So it's pretty funny.
Yeah, the main takeaway is you're stalking Ian Poulter now.
You saw him twice in the same weekend.
Yeah.
I didn't see him actually at Liberty National.
I just heard that he was out there.
Everyone's freaking out, like DM in me when they saw a couple of my Instagram stories.
Yeah, I was watching his Instagram story, Ian Poulter.
And I saw that he was at Liberty National.
I was like, I'm pretty sure Riggs is right out there, too.
Yeah.
Bayone was a little bit more, like, realistic.
where I could have seen him and chirped him.
Liberty National is not.
It's not that kind of setting.
It would have just been really weird,
like creepy weird if I would have chirped it.
But yeah, that's it.
We got next up.
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Next up, we are joined by Harold Varner the third.
We were just kind of chatting a little bit, doing a little pre-chat.
But what's up, man?
How's it going?
Doing good.
Just watching it rain right now as I drive.
But yeah, everything's good.
Just crazy.
Long season.
It's crazy.
It's about to crank up again.
but enjoying the downtime for sure.
Yeah, you were telling us, you know, you had a good little stretch there at the end,
which we'll get into a little later, but you're just taking a little time off this weekend,
kind of chilling?
Yeah, I went up to the mountains, and it was the first time in a long time that I didn't call anyone for, like, three days.
It was awesome.
It was really good.
Just me and my girlfriend, you know, sometimes you've got to do things like that.
She's a cool girl, so I've got to take care of when I can.
Yeah, she'll be pumped to you, you bought yourself like several weeks now of good graces.
yeah exactly
that's awesome
so yeah so we'll get
first real question here
you know what's it feel like to be
the black not tiger woods guy on tour
um hopefully like a white guy or
Korean or whatever
we're just totally fucking with you
we uh I was like dude what the fuck
so I was reading we read your
your players tribute piece
and obviously that's
what you get nonstop from the U.S. media,
which has to be as annoying as fuck.
Yeah, it's, I mean, I guess it's not.
I mean, it is what it is.
I've got to have something to write about.
But, geez, you know, it's just kind of, I think as we, you know,
society we're in, I feel like that's all we talk about is the color,
someone's skin, other than the fact that they're just good at golf or they're good at something.
So it's just kind of weird, you know, I would love that, you know,
later down the road that it got better.
but it's just weird.
I went to Australia, and that was never, that was never a conversation.
They were just like, oh, yeah, you're American, you know, whatever.
I was like, yeah, that's right, though.
Right.
You're like, yeah, that's me.
That's who I am.
So, yeah, let's talk a little bit about the piece.
You know, you talked about trying to grow the game, hashtag good for golf, all that stuff.
We, you know, we have a pretty big platform here.
You were talking about, as a kid, you were able to have, what was it, like, $100 a summer
and you're able to play unlimited golf
and you wish more courses would do something like that?
Yeah, I mean, I'm sure
now you couldn't do it for $100.
But, yeah, $100 I could play.
You know, I can play Monday through Friday as much as I wanted.
It was actually unbelievable now that I think about it
because thinking about how easy you spend $100 now.
That $100 got me a whole summer golf.
Yeah, and it was like a little babysitter.
Yeah, I mean, we live in New York.
A hundred bucks gets you like half of a night out, basically.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
You're just better off saving it.
Right.
So we got to come up with some sort of initiative then.
We got to work with you and figure out how we're going to maybe,
maybe we should celebrate the courses that offer something like this,
and then we'll just shame the shit out of the courses that don't.
No, we don't need to shame.
We just need to do good.
Like, it'll be all right.
I just, I think it's just so caught up on the bottom dollar right now.
You know, like, well, if I let these kids play, you know,
I'm not going to make any money.
I'm going to lose all this money.
But in my eyes, I think you make the money later on when the kids are old enough and they have their jobs and they come back home, they're going to want to play where they grew up.
They're going to pay full price like any other adult.
But right now, you know, just take care of them right now when they can't – they don't have a job.
Yeah, and you've done some stuff with the first T as well, which is an initiative kind of along the same line.
So, you know, I feel like people are definitely trying to move in that direction as best they can.
because if it doesn't, the sponsorship will go down.
You know, you got to get people in the golf.
You got to get people out there because without the fans and the, you know,
the people wanting to see golf, you know, we don't get paid.
So that's the only way it'll really change, I think.
So you mentioned it a little bit, but let's get into the Australian PGA last year,
you know, one of the bigger moments of your career,
especially a lot of people in the U.S.
might not remember all the details just with the time difference.
It's tough for us to catch all that.
I went back and watched a lot of the highlights.
I mean, taking down Adam Scott in his home country.
Talk us, you know, a little bit through just kind of what that meant to you
and how cool that was to get that W.
That was pretty special.
You know, I've been playing well leading up to that.
Went to the Dunlop Phoenix, and it's like 11.
You know, just played solid, just kind of trying to get better.
And then just to, you know, play that well that far away, you know,
that was awesome, you know, because you want to win.
That's why you play.
Yeah, and you didn't, there was no limping in either there.
I was, you know, these guys were dropping putts.
They got him, Scott made like a 40 or 50-foot eagle putt coming back down,
the back nine there.
So, I mean, you went out and you, under what, you shoot like a 65?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Played really well, the last day, considering the wind and everything.
And it was just, gosh, I just want to get back in that zone.
That was pretty, that was awesome.
I just hadn't been in that type of contention on the PJ tour this whole year,
except, you know, maybe green thrill.
So it's been a while, but I feel like it's just a part of golf.
You know, I'm trending in the right direction.
It sucks.
I don't have any tournaments to play in.
So, yeah, so down the stretch, you know, I think you were somewhere around like 135
going into the Wyndham.
You had a really good week.
You finished T-10.
You know, a lot of guys, whether they're in the top five or top ten or President's Cup type guys,
are getting all this attention.
But I think those types of storylines where you're out there literally battle into
play more golf, battling for a job next year.
Talk a little bit about kind of, you know, that last stretch and how much it meant for you
to play well coming down the stretch there.
It meant a lot, you know, it was just obviously so different than my rookie year.
I just kind of, my rookie year I had played so well.
It was just kind of going through the motions.
But then this year, I just had no other option.
And, you know, I was very, you know, proud of myself for doing that.
You know, it took a lot of guts and a lot of balls to get it done.
But I wouldn't wish that upon anyone.
That wasn't that.
You know, it was fun to play.
well, but it wasn't fun to be in that position at all.
Yeah, I feel like it's just the real grind.
I'm just, like, there's a couple times where, like, you just got to, you just can't afford
a double, you know what I'm saying?
And when you're playing well, you just go fire at it and see what happens.
How much are you kind of looking at, you know, at numbers, leaderboards?
Do you have a pretty good idea of where you need to finish in that type of situation?
Every week I knew.
So when, them I knew, I think I need to say.
finish like Todd for 13th or better.
So I had an idea.
I mean, every time and then the next week I knew where I need to finish.
And I played well enough.
And then the last boss, and I just ran out of gas.
I was just too sporadic.
I was either going to shoot four over or four under, literally.
I don't hate that.
I kind of like that.
Yeah, I got it going, though, the last day, freaking A.
I mean, I didn't know I'd shoot 59, but I was well on my way after 10 holes.
Yeah, that's got to be stressful.
man because I feel like you know you like you kind of said a little bit you want to just let it go out there
try to make as many bird as you can and just see what happens yeah exactly um yeah a lot of stress
but at the end of the day you know I was going to keep playing golf you know you just got to keep it in
perspective regardless I was going to you know I was going to get back on tour I just feel like
some people have to go through things to uh you know show how much it matters to them and I
didn't do a good job of trying to get better the whole year, and it showed.
You know, I got caught up and just doing other stuff.
Life happened, and I'm glad I got over it.
It's fine, but I'm going to be better because of it.
Well, yeah, I think you probably learned something about yourself.
I mean, when things are going great, obviously that's good.
You're throwing out birdies.
You're in the top tens or whatever, but you probably, you learn more about yourself
having to grind it out in those situations where, you know, maybe you're not playing your best golf.
Yeah, exactly.
I think that's what the best plays in the world do.
When they don't have the best stuff, they find a way to get it done.
So what's the plan now for the rest of the year for you?
Before Safeway or until New Year?
Yeah, I mean, just kind of, you know, what are you mapping out all the way through,
you know, whether it's between now and Safeway going into kind of the final stretch of 2017
and into 2018?
So up until a safe way, I'm just going to let this hurricane go by.
And then I think I'm going to go to ECU this weekend.
I'm super pumped about that.
I haven't been to a football game in over a year probably.
So I'm going to get a little rowdy down there for sure.
Pretty good tailgate scene there?
Yes, yeah.
It'll be awesome.
I'm so pumped.
Like, you don't understand.
So I'm going to do that.
I'm looking so forward to that.
And when I get back, I'm just going to, you know, get back to practice and getting, you know, trying to get better.
But doing the same stuff that I did at the end of the year, which is just find a way to get better every day.
Not that I got lazy.
I just didn't, you know, when you don't put in the time, you're not going to get the results you want.
So what's the going in next year then when you get into your practice schedule, what's kind of the main thing we're working on to be better next year?
Just keep doing what I'm doing.
If I do what I did the last three weeks, you know, take it a little more serious.
Maybe not so much serious, but just that I can be really good at this game.
And I want to be the best that I can be.
So just doing stuff like that, just whenever you got to go work on something, go knock it out.
Go put it in 20, 30 minutes, stuff like that.
And that's, I mean, I'm learning a lot.
Every day, I just didn't do it early in the year.
I don't know why.
I think these damn hurricanes make it tough to practice.
too.
Yeah, yeah.
I wish I could blame it on that for the whole year.
These damn hurricanes is there nothing to be seen.
Sorry, guys, too many hurricanes.
Yeah, they just keep coming.
Dude, they're getting screwed down there.
I have a few friends in Jacksonville Beach, and holy cow, I mean, that's not even close
to where it hit.
I mean, they're a little moines.
They should have left, but.
Yeah, we had a couple people sending us in videos of them hitting balls trying to get
like a career record seven iron distance in the hurricane.
It was like, dude, you should be taking.
That's just not safe.
Like, I just don't find, I mean, it's cool,
but my life is way more important than hitting 7-9s,
215 yards.
Yeah.
Oh, I agree, but I think these people are just psychos out there.
Hey, you got to make it on.
You don't have video.
It's not real.
That's true.
It's true.
It's 2017.
It's just how it works.
So, you know, I saw you mentioned a couple times that, you know,
your goal out there is to be one of, if not the best player on tour.
What do you think the biggest difference is,
between you and, you know, maybe at Dustin Johnson,
one of those guys that's at the top right now where you want to be?
I just think they're a little more experienced.
I mean, this is only my second year.
I just got to keep, you know, fill that gap of experience,
and that's just only going to happen by playing, you know,
getting in there and just seeing what happens,
and then the next time being able to do better than you did the time before.
And you can't put a price on that.
You just got to go do your best and get it.
give yourself the best chance to do well.
What is the weirdest thing you've heard from the gallery on tour?
The weirdest thing.
You got to hear.
Some volunteer lady lastly,
she was like,
I was walking by and she was like,
gosh,
a little sexy ass.
I was like,
okay.
That is not where I thought that was going.
I was like,
what made it so worse,
I just made back-to-back bogies,
and I was just like,
you know,
Hey, you know, so it kind of caught me off guard.
Did you get the digits?
We won't tell your girlfriend.
No, no, no, no.
I didn't, no, no, I was just mad as far.
Yeah, there was no digits.
And then I proceeded on the three-putt from like 10 feet.
So maybe I should have just stopped and talked to him.
Hey, how you doing?
Of the guys on tour, you know, currently playing on tour, who would be your dream
for some?
Like, who do you like to tee it up with out there?
Everyone's pretty good to tee up, but, like, someone younger, you know,
Kevin Kisner is a good guy.
I've never played with them in a tournament, but I've spent some time with them.
I'm not really sure that I'd want to, like, always play golf with these guys.
I think some of these guys are really fun just to be around, like, for a good night out or dinner.
So, I mean, we play enough golf.
I mean, everyone's pretty chill.
As long as they don't take forever to play, I'm going to have a good night.
good time with him. You came to the right place saying
Kevin Kisner. We are big Kevin Kisner
guys around here. We love Kiz.
You should be. Lucas Glover. There's a lot of
guys that, I mean, Bud Colley.
There's some really good guys out there, man,
that just they get it, keep it in perspective
and know that what they do is
just like, you know, a great
opportunity. You just make millions of dollars to do what
you love. I mean, how many people get to do that?
Yeah, I think that's probably the coolest part
of doing this podcast. You know, we've gotten to
talk to a bunch of you guys, and it's the
overwhelming majority are just cool,
down-to-earth-ass guys who just are really fucking good at golf.
Yeah.
Yeah, some of them are unbelievable.
With that in mind, what's the worst part of being a PJ Tour pro?
If you want to be honest, I don't think any part is the worst.
I mean, from what we get in return, there's no worse.
I love to travel.
Okay, that's usually what we get.
People usually don't like to travel.
They don't like to travel.
That's what a lot of, I mean...
It's like you got to fly the damn place.
You just sit on and go to sleep.
I enjoy it.
Yeah, we heard a couple, we heard a couple people saying that if they had to pick one,
it would be packing for like seven weeks straight because you got to pack all kinds of wild shit,
and you never know what the weather's going to be like.
Yeah, I don't really.
I wear the same shoes every day.
I wear the same hat.
I switch about three belts.
So I don't really pack.
I mean, I don't know.
I wear the same stuff.
I don't really care.
I just don't.
I don't know.
I don't ever have a hard time packing.
I usually never unpacked.
I just, like, wash the stuff in the bag,
and then I just put it right back in the bag.
Yeah, that's smart.
That's how I travel, too.
I just right out of the suitcase.
I mean, saying there's nothing wrong with being a PJ Tour Pro is the right answer,
if we're being honest.
Yeah, for sure.
I mean, it is the right answer.
It's no, like, oh, maybe, no, yeah, there's no.
I would understand, I mean, it's hard travel.
with kids, man, I see these guys who have, you know, kids.
I couldn't do it right now, obviously, but I can't be easy.
What is your strangest golf superstition?
I don't have any superstitions.
So when I was a kid, my mom would always, like, she'd always have these rules.
Like, don't split a pole, you know, don't, when I would sweep the house, like, don't
sweep the dust out of the house.
Whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
I just don't have any superstitions.
I'll play any ball.
But I did get to talk to Patrick Reed last week.
I did the full of, like, Q&A thing with him.
He's got some superstitions.
He's got a crazy one.
Like, he starts around with six T's, and he will use, you know,
to say he runs out on, like, 16.
He has to put six T's back in his pocket.
Jesus.
Yeah, we had, who was it, Bud Callie?
I think he only uses, you know, what he'd say.
I think he said 90s.
He always has to have 90s.
What a weird of.
I didn't know that.
You're in good company, though.
The only person on this podcast who said they didn't have any superstitions was Patrick
Harrington.
Yeah, he basically talked like if you have superstitions, you are the dumbest person in the world.
Yeah, I just don't know, man.
I mean, the guys that have superstitions are really good at golf.
I just don't have any.
I think, gosh, dude, I mean, if you think,
are going to be the reason you play good something wrong.
I mean, people could, you know, you.
People could say you have no superstitions.
That is your superstition.
Yeah, that's fine with me, but I just don't care.
The number of the ball isn't going to affect where it's going.
I don't know.
The first time I ever, my caddy right now,
the first time he ever caddied,
I use the same golf ball the whole day.
Jesus.
What's the point of switching?
And then now he, like, makes me switch, which is whatever.
If I use the same ball the whole day,
I'm like the most thrilled person of all time.
Like I basically base how successful the route was
and how many balls I do or don't lose.
Everyone's got to have their standard.
If you could take one skill from one other guy's game on earth,
what and who would it be?
I would have to say Tiger under pressure putting.
Great answer.
I like that.
I mean, dude, think about how many putts he made.
I mean, we still talk about the putts he's made under pressure to win
or to get in a playoff.
I mean, his whole, I mean, even in amateur golf, he made some putt.
So, yeah, when you have to have a putt, I would kind of want that.
Yeah, when he was, God, some of his puts are just unbelievable.
The one from 08 to get into the playoff, the one from, what, the PGA in 2000?
Oh, I think about the shots that it took for him to get in there.
He makes that put, that eagle put on whatever hole that was.
I mean, dude, hit it everywhere.
But when you need, I mean, anywhere on the green, just since he's, he's,
make it.
That would be a nice skill to have.
That would be a nice skill to have.
What is your favorite event on tour that you've played in?
I would say Riviera.
Really?
I love being in LA.
I love the course because everyone can play it.
Like you can hit it short and play well there.
You can hit it long and play well there.
You know, it's just no advantage for just one specific player.
I like those type of courses in general.
Yeah, I feel like being in L.A. and playing a sweet course is probably good, probably good deal.
Yeah, and you could stay right next to the Santa Monica Pier.
It's just a lot of good stuff, especially when it's like freezing over here in North Carolina.
Yeah, you seem like, you seem like an L.A. guy. You got the swagger of an L.A. guy.
Yeah, but no, you know, I'm from the South. I like to lay low, but, you know, it's good for a week out there.
You ever do like on a week like that?
ever do you get there like a day or two earlier like i'm going to really soak it up no no i uh i know
how that turns out you got to yeah you got to contain yourself that's right exactly what's your
uh what's your favorite golf shot to hit if you had to hit you know one go-to shot to uh put yourself
in position to win a major something like that what's the one shot you want to hit i want to hit a wedge
from 89 yards pretty specific i just been i hold out from there
twice this year.
I don't know.
89 yards is mine.
That's where I want to be.
I'm going to really remember that.
If you're out there and you're 89 yards out of it,
I'm going to start hammering the live betting, this might go in.
I love it.
Always wants some action.
All right.
So we've talked about growing the game.
We've talked about what your next year is going to look like, all this, all that.
Let's get to the important stuff.
Let's talk a little bit about The Bachelor.
Yeah.
I mean, that show's hilarious, dude.
Trent loves it, too.
I'm like the biggest bachelor's fan in the world.
Have you been watching Bachelor in Paradise, or do you only stick with Bachelor or Bachelorette?
How do you consume The Bachelor?
I watch Bachelor in Paradise.
It's the most interesting one because I love, like, the Corinne deal because they got to talk about race.
Like, they got to talk about something that really mattered in this, you know, this world.
I'd never thought that would happen on that show.
But, yeah, it was pretty crazy.
how they went down.
Yeah, I watch it.
So later, they just bring people on there, like, she's hot, dude.
It's just really corny.
It was strange that it's a show like Bachelor in Paradise where they, it's the
literally the premise is you put a bunch of cast-offs from the other shows, have them drink,
let them have sex, and then all of a sudden you're in a race debate.
Yeah, exactly.
It was really weird.
Like, I was like, I don't understand what happened.
And then I heard stories that they tried to make that happen or like tried to get them
two together, and I still.
I don't know if he likes someone, you like someone.
Well, yeah, and Corinne really went on the defensive, or on the offensive,
and now it turns out nothing happens,
and DeMario, he's like, his Google searches are fucked for the rest of his life.
Yeah, he's not going to be able to get a job.
Yeah, he got fucked there.
Yeah, and then the next thing you know, I see, like, the other day,
they're, like, hanging out and, like, they're, like, making up.
I'm like, oh, my God, I would not be making up.
Not at that moment.
He just ruined my life.
What did you think about the Christina and Dean scenario?
Very, I don't know them all by names.
You gotta explain the thing, but I think, you gotta explain it again.
I just watch it with my girlfriend.
I just tune in whenever, like, crazy shit.
Christina is the hot Russian girl who ate lipstick as an orphan to survive,
and then Dean is the really good-looking, dreamy-eyed guy who is like two-time.
He's like, really weird.
Yeah.
He's like, yeah, good-looking dude, but he's like, weird.
He's very weird.
I didn't get to the episode about Saul where she's like,
crying and shit, right?
Yeah, they're always crying.
I feel like their big cry show.
Yeah, what did you do to her?
I didn't get to that.
I mean, he's basically juggling the two hottest girls on the show, and he ended up
going with the other girl, and she was, you know, she was upset about it.
That hurts.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I mean, let me get upset about when you leave the house, so it'll be all right.
Well, I'm, I like, you are an unexpected bachelor fan, and when I saw you tweeting about it,
I was like, I can't wait to have this guy on the podcast so we can chop it up a little bit about the show.
Dude, Corinne was, I would have voted for Corinne for sure.
If someone took me on a shopping street and let me spend $3,000 on clothes, I would have been like, I'm taking here.
Oh, yeah.
She's a, she's a sugar mama for sure.
Yeah, I mean, usually it's all the way around.
I would have been like, hey, yeah.
Yeah, I don't tune in all the time, but when Corinne was in the mix, I watched it up until she was done.
She is an electric factory.
Yeah, I mean, obviously, she's good for TV, but, like, to be honest, I feel like she was the only one that was like herself.
Yeah, I agree with that.
She came off as like, this is just how she is.
This is what I do, and if you don't like it, so what?
Well, yeah, a lot of people go on there and they get worried about making themselves look like,
you know, making themselves not look very good, but she didn't care.
She was just herself the whole way through.
She didn't give a fuck.
Not at all.
Yeah, she's zero.
All right, man.
Well, yeah, we really appreciate you hopping on with us.
We had a good time.
Anybody out there that doesn't know, he's at HV3 Golf on Twitter.
He's a good follow.
So, yeah, Harold Varner III, thanks a lot, man.
Dude, thanks for having me.
I'm glad it worked out.
Absolutely.
Good luck going forward.
We'll be pulling for you out there.
Thanks, Scott.
I'll talk you soon.
All right, man, take care of.
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Next up, we have got a little from the gallery action.
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Yeah, quick shout out to Harold Varner.
Thanks for coming on the show.
And thanks for playing ball with The Bachelor.
I knew I was going to bring it up and I was hoping he was going to be,
I was hoping he wasn't going to be like I haven't watched anything in the last two years.
Yeah, that would have been tough.
I was like, oh, no.
But he was like, I watched Bachelor in Paradise, all that.
Who was it that we did that with?
We were like, oh, this person's a big, they've been watching a bunch of TV.
We're going to talk about Game of Thrones.
Was it Bud Collie?
It was either Bud Colley or Colt Nost or one of those guys
Where we just, it's just that hole we were going to talk for like 10 minutes
And it was just zero minutes.
It was cold-nosed.
It was definitely cold-nosed.
All right, let's talk about Game of Thrones.
And he was like, I don't watch it.
And I was like, ah, making a murder.
And he was like, yeah, it worked out.
HB3 was all game.
He's the man a little dicey there when I think he thought I was serious with my question at the beginning.
Yeah, we had planned that out though.
We were like, we're going to say this because he gets ass all the time.
And he's going to be mad.
And then we'll just play it off.
Like we're cool.
Still, it's always a little nerve-wracking when you, when you have that cool plan.
But then when you're actually doing it.
I was like, oh, Jesus.
Oh, yeah.
You just got to own it and go for it.
And then if he hangs up, we're like, all right, we got to get another guest.
Somebody find us a new guest.
From the gallery.
First one's from Cameron.
This is a little bit of a golf outfit slash wardrobe question.
He says, is it appropriate to wear multiple logos on the golf course from different courses?
This is an interesting question, in my opinion, because there's a lot of different.
protocols here depending on where you're at and what your relationship is to the club i was going to
leave i'm going to leave this one up to you because you're a big logo guy love logos you're on a logo right
now um wing foot what's up yeah i didn't i yeah so it's up to you if you want to well you take it this
wherever you want i think i think wearing different logos from different clubs is the most common
and acceptable move okay what gets weird is when you wear like when you double logo up from the same
club if you're not playing at that club that's really weird so you can't be wearing like
like a hat and a quarter zip of a club that you're not playing it.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, I think that's weird.
Okay.
Right?
Like, I think if you roll up and you've got like an Augusta hat on and an Augusta shirt on,
that's like weird.
Or if you have whatever.
Now, if it's your home club and you're playing at your home club, I think that's very normal.
I mean, usually when you play your home club, most guys that are the members that are playing
are kind of decked head to toe in that club's logo.
That's kind of the right move.
Yeah.
But it's weird, I think, when you get, when you double or triple logo, the same.
logo I think that's a weird I'm open to being wrong but I think I almost feels like
Augusta is the one that you could wear yeah that's probably true because it's
Augustine you're like you just want to tell people that I went and I've been there yeah
with everything else I think you're probably right you don't want to double logo a club that
you're not playing yeah I feel like if I showed up to like you know if I got an invite to
play or if I went out and played like Beth page and I was wearing like a wing foot
hat shirt and belt and I'm not a member
at Wingfoot, that'd be fucking weird.
It's almost like you're wearing like the wrong gang colors.
Like stop doing that.
If you're just like, don't do it.
You're not a part of that.
Yeah.
Don't wear it on this course.
That's not that course.
I think if you've got logo game, if you've got like a shirt, a belt, and a hat that are all
different courses, different logos.
I think that's totally fine.
I think that's cool.
Yeah, I think it is too.
I think it's really cool.
It says a lot about you.
Yeah.
You're a big belt guy.
You got some awesome belts.
Oh, yeah.
The needlepoint belt game is strong.
Always one of the best investments you can get in a clubhouse.
So yeah, don't be scared about the logos.
Yeah, that's true.
Just kind of rock it.
And also, if you play well and you're playing good golf, like none of it matters.
And I almost feel like if anybody who's worried about the logo, that's someone that I don't totally want to be associated with.
Yeah, it's a little relaxed.
If you're worried about too many logos, even though we just said that you can't.
Yeah, you wear whatever you want to wear, have fun out there.
Cameron, wherever you want to wear.
Tim, he writes in, this is kind of a sympathetic from the gallery towards Trent.
Again, I'm fine.
He said something to affect.
of like, hey, Trent, since you're super lonely and doing lonely shit by yourself all
time, what are your thoughts on a midweek round of golf by yourself?
A couple of things.
One, again, not lonely.
Two, that sounds like a good idea, and I would love to do it, but this is how you get yelled
at around here.
And these parts, you do a midweek round.
I mean, in theory, it sounds fine.
Yeah, I'll sneak out, and I won't do anything, and I'll just play golf.
But that's how you end up on Barcelona Radio Series XM, you know, Rush 93,
getting yelled at by Dave Portnoy.
I would say if you're a normal person with a normal job
living in a normal part of the country
that's not New York City, you know,
you leave the office at 5, 530,
buzz by your club or your local Muni track
and you hop on a cart
and you get out there and play as many holes as you can,
that's great. Another part of Tim Zanz,
where a response was kind of like, it's great
because you can buzz around and play like nine holes
and like an hour.
That's very dependent on where you are who's in front of you.
Yeah.
Because there's nothing worse than playing by yourself
and you're behind a bunch of groups
and you've got to like awkwardly play through.
So it's very independent.
If you got a wide open course and you live in a normal part of the country, I think it's very therapeutic.
You get out of work.
You're like, fuck yeah.
You know, I earned it today.
I worked hard.
I'm going to get out.
It's going to be nice weather.
Maybe have a beer or two.
Oh, yeah.
And I avoid playing by myself because I just know I'm going to get a hole in one.
I don't want to do that.
That's also just.
I mean, you just got already can't run that risk.
That's an expert response there.
I, um, that's such a, that's such a risk.
Speaking of hole in one.
The last from the gallery from Joe, he says, you guys haven't had, you guys haven't had a hole in one or not,
discussion in a while.
What happened was he's in a nine-hole league with a bunch of people.
What happens is they play their nine-hole little deal like once a week.
They're usually done pretty early and they still have an hour or two at daylight.
So a couple people go back out, play a two-man scramble after.
During the two-man scramble, one guy gets a hole in one.
Does it count?
Two-man scramble guy gets a hole in one.
Yes?
I think so, too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's what my gut says.
Yeah, I think it counts.
It's got to count.
You know, I was trying to think of a situation where that's similar, where it wouldn't count.
I would say, like, if you're kind of, if you're like, there's someplace where you're on the driving range at, like, a club and then you kind of buzz over to, like, the sixth hole real quick and play, like, two or three holes.
Right.
So, I don't know that that would count if you kind of hold a bar three in that situation.
So the only beef you're saying with this one, with the two-man scramble would be that it's not like a real round.
Right.
Okay.
That's exactly what it.
No, that count.
It counts to me.
And you're right.
The one that you just described about buzzing over to the six-hole.
That one's a little trickier.
Yeah.
I say no.
Yeah.
But the two-man scramble when you're going out there and you are trying to play as many holes as you can, then I think it's right.
I think so, T.
You go out, you're on like, you're planning on playing like nine holes, but if you can only play six or seven because of daylight, you're playing a match, two-man scramble against your buddies.
If one of you holes apart three T-shot, I mean, that's a whole one.
Yeah, yeah.
You have all the illusions of a real round going.
Then I think that's, it counts.
Yeah, I think that has to count.
I get, I get where the, where maybe the little uncertainty is.
But I think that sounds official enough to me.
I think you got to count it.
We're the whole and one king, so it's law now.
It counts.
Joe, it fucking counts.
Count it.
And you'll feel it.
You'll know when it counts, I would imagine.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
I've never had one.
Yeah, it's true.
One day I'll know if you know.
I'm speaking from a position of one that has no knowledge.
You hear him from much of people that don't have a whole and one is.
Yeah.
That's what you come here for.
All right.
That's it from the gallery this week.
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If you're around.
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We'll have a bunch of Natty light merch that will be slinging around.
And it'll just be a good time.
It's going to be a great time.
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from our personal accounts at Riggs Barstool at Barstool Trent.
Did I get that correct?
Yeah.
Well, half of us are like name Barstool, and the other half of us are Barstool name.
My Twitter and my Instagram are all the same.
Yeah.
Because you're Riggs Barstool.
Yeah.
And is it both on Instagram and Twitter?
Yeah.
This is, okay.
But you're Barstool Trent.
I'm Barstool.
Right.
So that's what I mean.
Half of us are like, like, Nate's like Barstall Nate, but like Smitty's like Smitty Barstall.
So when people come up to me sometimes, I say, are you Barstall Trent?
Do they say, are you Riggs Barstall?
Yeah.
No.
Oh, yeah.
I thought it would be Barstle Riggs.
No, they say, are you rigs barstile?
I think it's just trained in people's brains.
That's strange.
Isn't that weird?
100% go Barstall rigs.
That's rigs barstool.
They say that.
All right.
Isn't that weird?
I swear to God.
Is that true?
Why are you looking at me like I fucking made it up?
Because it doesn't seem, it doesn't seem plausible.
No, people come up to you.
Are you rigs bars through?
I guess maybe the only difference is I think that I have a name that a lot of people might have.
Yeah.
They can't just be like, are you Trent?
I mostly just get like, rigs, whoa.
But it is rigs barstle.
They're going to throw in a bar still.
It comes after.
That's incredible.
I believe you.
Yeah.
You're looking at me like you don't.
I'm shocked that that's how it happens.
I wouldn't just lie.
I know you wouldn't.
You're not a liar.
All right.
That's it this week.
We will see you after the BMW.
It'll be the next episode will be before the last event of the PGA tour season.
