Fore Play - Boring Is The New Exciting?

Episode Date: March 14, 2023

Scottie Scheffler blows out the field at TPC Sawgrass. Is boring golf actually exciting golf? We debate and go through everything from this year’s PLAYERS. Plus we delve into the Tiger Woods news, dusters, having some juice, Breaking 90 updates and more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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a lot to get to. Players' Championship Recap. Scotty Sheffler, who's a big friend of the program, who I sat around Sawgrass last night until about 9.30 at night in a rainstorm, and I didn't get anything from him. But he's a big friend of the program. So we like that. We like the wholesomeness. We talked a lot a few weeks ago during the full swing

about the comparison between him and Meredith and their relationship versus like the Kepka's and how laugh out loud funny. That whole thing was. And then they were on display again, so I don't know. that anybody. I don't know anybody. It's ever had a negative word to say about Scotty Sheffler. Being there in person watching them, there were a lot of takeaways and a lot of takeaways from just how crazy his last 13 months have been. Six wins in 13 months is pretty much outrageous with one of them being a Masters, one of them being the Players Championship,

one of them being a match play, which is just three completely different and very big events. Match play is not on the part with the other two, but the fact that it is match play means a guy can just win anything. Watching in person at the players this weekend, his footwork, and I know it gets talked about a lot of the broadcast, in person it looks like and feels like he slips and that it was a mistake on every single swing. Yeah, I think it's really interesting that we kind of have like a clear number one and number two in the world right now, and both of them have just very, very kind of strange golf swings that you would never teach a junior golfer. It just kind of goes to show that optics are overrated.

Like obviously, Scotty looks like he twists his ankle every time. Rom, born with the club foot. he's got limited mobility, only takes it back to his rib. So there are guys on the driving range who have picture perfect swings or they hit P1, P2, P3, P4, P5. But the best two players in the world right now, the clear number one and the clear number two both do it their own way. He's amazing.

Scottie Schaeffler, I think I'm genuinely in love with him. I think if I keep saying it, he's going to think it's weird. But like, I just, when you look at him and you see the way he conducts himself and he holds himself and then he just dominates the field like he did at the players. I mean, I saw a tweet, Arnold, it was Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas, and Scottie Sheffler, the only three guys that have ever held the masters and the players at the same time. It's crazy. I mean, come on, man.

You're talking about Jack Nicholas, Tiger Woods, and Scotty Sheffler. That's it. Those three guys, all the golfers that have ever played, two of the more prestigious tournaments of all time, you're one of three that have. done that? Come on, man. Well, dude, I remember when we were at the Rider Cup and it was Sunday singles and it was Scotty Shepler versus John Rom. And at that point, I remember tweeting out like, I think Scottie Shepler's going to win. I was just, you know, holding the American flag down, being patriotic. And then it turns out that this guy is just going to go on one of the all-time runs.

It's really fun to watch. It's cool that he's a friend of the program. We saw him outside the media tent, I want to say Wednesday or Thursday. And he was like, oh, I saw the Billy Horsal video. I saw that you guys beat him and we were like you're next i don't know if that'll ever materialized but it goes to show that this guy has had one of the great runs in golf history and he's still finding time to be like a normal person talks a lot about playing board games with meredith like if you're looking for a guy outside of rory who you want to be the face of golf sky shuffler's probably got to be number two on that list the only and it's hard to call it negative the only negative that i've seen online and talking to like buddies and stuff is that he's boring and aside from

that like you really can't knock the guy for anything and to the boring debate i mean at some point it goes to and i hate to always bring this back to the new york islanders but people say like the islanders game is boring but like when they were winning games and going to the eastern conference two years in a row i used to say is winning boring is watching a team win day in and day out boring regardless of how it gets done like at some point scottie's going to go past the threshold of like yeah it might be boring because he's not the most you know flashy charismatic golfer in the world, but winning is fucking awesome. And like if he keeps racking these things up, I mean, being on the same list as Tiger Woods

and Jack Nicholas and that's it, that's pretty not boring. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's an apples to apples comparison with your New York Islanders, but I do think the performance. My point is that winning is not boring. No, and I agree with that. I think he has. So actually it is Apple's Apple. Well, I think there's probably other hockey examples.

Like they're not the most winning franchise. winning a lot? I'm just saying when they're the only team that gets cold boring. But my point is like, when you're winning, it's fucking awesome. I agree. And I think they are the only team. It's fucking ridiculous. I think Scotty has gotten to that point where regardless of what you think, and I find

him to be pretty interesting. Like, if you just follow him, he's a wholesome family guy. It's a good, he's a good guy to follow. But also, when you win as much as he has, you can be barely awake all of the time and you're an interesting person. Yeah. I mean, I think from his standpoint, he, He probably wants to be called boring, right?

Like, that's great. That means he's hitting fairways, he's hitting greens, he's playing good golf, he's winning tournaments. I bet he has no issue with that. I remember Kevin Kisner, like five years ago or so,

I chirped him about being boring because I was trying to get him more on the coverage or like, it's impossible to watch you. They never put you on. And he's like, perfect. That means if I'm boring,

that's great. That means I'm even keel. I'm playing golf. I'm hitting it the way I want to hit it. Now, I get all that, and I get that winning can be boring, and that's a good thing for Scotty. But I do agree with people to agree

there's a reason that like watching speed is just it's more magnetic to more people than what even when he's winning than watching like scotty because when speed's just fidgety and he's all over the place and he's getting these crazy up and downs and he's just for whatever reason he's more entertaining from just a pure watching a guy play golf standpoint and it's similar i get to a degree of like when we talk about people like if we were just really solid at golf our youtube videos would suck because if we just hit it the fairway and they hit it in the middle of it Green and then like two putt, why would that be entertaining for anybody to watch? So I can understand to a degree that people are like, yeah, he's not the most entertaining guy. I don't think that's a crazy thing for people to think. I get that. I think you probably have to be a little bit of a hardcore, like, golf fan to appreciate it on a pretty high level.

And I think like to your New York Islanders comparison breakie, I do think that like even me as a hockey fan, like I would rather, now that I know the Islanders, I like, why, watching them play. But beforehand, like, I would rather watch the Edmonton Oilers play than the New York Islanders, even if the Islanders have a way better season just because it's more entertaining. It's fucking chaos. They're going to give up five goals. They're going to score six. It's going to be nuts versus like a two to one trap game is just not as entertaining to, you know, a fan. So I, I mean, I guess I'm just trying to say I get that from Scotty standpoint. He wants to be playing boring golf, I'm sure. From a fan standpoint, there could be more like electric people to watch for sure.

We do sell boring shirts on barcelports.com for the New York Islanders. They're in the Islander colors. It's just as boring across it. So I think it's the round on Sunday was boring in the best way possible from a golf perspective. It was it was sort of tiger-like in the sense of he played with the lead, but he didn't play conservative. I thought Min Wu Lee was surprisingly conservative hitting iron off the tea a lot when Scotty was hitting driver. It seemed like Minwood didn't have a lot of confidence in his driver.

But Scottie played kind of a. distinctly modern round of golf. He bombed driver everywhere he could because that's what the numbers say you should do. And then he played to the fat part of the greens, except for on the par fives and the short par fours where he took advantage of getting it up there and won less than regulation. It wasn't a flashy round. It wasn't a round we're going to remember in 20 years, but that's not what the day called for. Everyone was getting to that 12 under number and then kind of going in reverse. There was only one guy who managed to post. And Scott, he knew that all he had to do was suck the life out of that tournament by avoiding the big mistake.

and he avoided it perfectly. It's 369, like exactly what the doctor ordered. It was a stroll to victory. It was as comfortable as you could make a Sunday at the Players' Championship. But it was, and you're right, Riggs, because of him and because of the way the tournament went, it was not the most riveting television. And after the first four designated events, all being kind of bangers, starting with, you know, Collins' collapse and Capulua and then carrying through to Riviera and the Homa

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Then yeah, I think so. But like the storyline at the end is not enough of like this guy just dominating golf. That's not cool enough. Like is he really have to be fist pumping after every single fight. It's not. I don't think it is. To me that is. It's a legacy.

You're seeing a legacy right unfold right before your eyes. Scotty Sheffler's becoming a household name. He's winning all these majors. He's winning every tournament he plays in. That's domination. That's Tiger Woods-esque. How is that not exciting? Because the crowd's not getting into it.

That's our fault. It depends on who you're asking. It depends on who you're asking. I would say golf fans are into it. it's our fault for not getting excited. we should go crazy. This guy's fucking dominating. eagle on 13 that bolts them into the lead and then they get to go down 15 and they're going to

go for it like that's what you want and if you just have a guy hit in the middle of fairway and hit middle of green you rob us of that and people consider that boring compared to the other back to back winner there's a couple guys who that adds to it there's a couple of guys who I don't think I would agree with that I think scottie's one of them I think rory if rory had a big lead coming down the back nine on on sunday the masters I would I'd be fired up about that he finally get one like there's a select few numbers number, Tiger, obviously, of guys who like, it becomes a legacy conversation. Now, that could very much be boring to the casual viewer, and that's not what you want. If you're talking about,

you want to get as many eyeballs on the sport as you can. Like, you would rather have a speed collapse on 12, like you did, to get more eyeballs on it. But if Scottie's coming down the stretch, back nine masters, has a big lead, he's about to win his second one in a row. He's going crazy the numbers that he's putting up throughout the last 15 months or whatever it's going to be like to me that's interesting and it's enough to the casual viewer it's probably not. I'm not saying it's not enough

but I don't think it's as compelling as some of the alternatives that we've seen and I even think like in the Rory or the Tiger example if like when Tiger shipped in you know to on 16 to like vault into a two shot lead and end up having a win in the playoff by like making a put I think that delivers more like exciting

content and feels for people even though Tiger still wins, we still get like the Tiger W. I think that overall, in the same situation, like if Scotty, like, hooped one on, on, you know, 18, he, like, hits a bunker shot like Bory hit last year, but his is to, like, win by one or something. That's just to me better than if he wins by, like, six and just hits at the middle of the fairway. And so I just think people, like, rather than have it be the way that it was where it was, like,

even on 17, even on 18 yesterday at Sawgrass, like, it really just wasn't even that nerve wracking because you're like, Scottie could even make double here and he's still going to win by three or four. It's really not that big of a deal. Whereas just as a fan, you want to feel those like nerves. Like when those, when, when Molinari hit it in the water and Tiger ended his career and then Tiger stood up there with his nine iron like, we were on the edge of our seats of like, oh my God, please let this ball end up on the green. Like please like, oh my God. Whereas like there was just no moments like that, you know, yesterday. And I think that's just as a sports fan. Like I think people just prefer it to be dramatic rather than over on like the third hole.

And there were none of those events, the last three masters. The last three masters have sneaky been kind of boring. Last year, Scotty, I think Cam Smith hit in the water on 12 was basically over after that. The year before, Hedecki was in control basically the whole day on Sunday. And then the year, he was, he got hot on Saturday, but Sunday was kind of a snoozer. And 2020, DJ was way ahead. We haven't really had like a good nail-biting back nine masters since Tiger in 2019. I will say it's hard to suck the life out of sawgrass to the point where 17 doesn't even feel that nerve-wracking.

And Scottie had such a lead that it did. He had a five-stroke league going into that. And it's just, you know, even if he doesn't hit the green on his first shot, it's like he's still not going to lose this tournament. Going into that with like a three-shot lead would have been interesting, two-shot lead even more interesting. But five, it's like, fuck, that guy's going to win the tournament every single time. Yeah. Yeah. And it's awesome for Scotty.

again, it's incredibly impressive. I literally think like, I mean, I guess we get, we get reasoncy bias a lot on this show. We're probably all pretty susceptible to that. But like, I don't see anything that's going to stop him from just being pretty consistently this dominant for a long time. He seems like completely at peace. He seems happy at home on the golf course with his caddy, with his sponsors, with his status in the game.

He seems just totally content. he won when he won at the wm everyone's talking about he didn't even have his a game he like clearly was hitting bad t shots it didn't feel like he was even playing that well and he won a stacked event that frankie said was better than pga championship i take that back he comes here and he's playing you know i would say he actually he did have his a game and he wins very easily by five he would have the masters by what like six if he didn't four put the last hole or whatever so when he does have his a game it seems like the most common answer is rory mackerel Or maybe like John Rom that like when they have their A game, nobody can touch them. Like I don't know that anybody has a better game or a game or any game overall than Scotty Sheffler. Obviously he's number one. They've been trading the spot back and forth. But like, dude, he is fucking dominant. He hits it far.

He plays incredibly smart. He's got a sick short game. He puts it beautifully. He's just like he's almost un, he's like unfucking flappable. And it makes me like on Saturday. because we did the whole gambling show, and that worked out pretty well. I actually made a good amount of money. We did the whole gambling show.

And all day of Saturday, I'm just like, on what planet was I not just like, obviously Scottie Sheffler's going to win easily? It's just, when you watch him that way, it seems so obvious that he's just going to win. So if I offered you guys Rom or Sheffler for Augusta, who would you take? Oh, see, the thing is. Sheffler. Really? That was a clear answer.

Well, all right, because we do, recency bias is a big thing. And I think it is on this show because. if you talked about Rom two weeks ago, he was the, he was inevitable. He was Thanos. Like he, like I do in my plums, I feel like for talking A games, I'm taking ROM. Rom's a problem. But it's, I mean. Rom's really good.

You know what I mean? Like if he won the Masters, it wouldn't surprise anybody. But you could have the exact same conversation about Scotty. So I just, when Rom gets going, it's just a big Spanish winning machine. And it's just a lot going on with him. and I think he's dominant when he's on his A game. So I want to talk about the players championship. It was for the three of us,

our first time ever being there. You guys were there Tuesday, Wednesday. I was there Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I was pretty blown away at the event. I think that it's the gold standard, no pun intended, of like championship professional golf. And it's not even close. The Masters tournament is the only other thing.

That's obviously up there that beats it. But for an event, that is not the Masters. and I would even say from major championships, I think it blows it out of the water from a spectating standpoint. I know everybody talks about the stadium course and how it's built very strategically so that everything is kind of a bowl and you have a vantage point. I couldn't believe how efficient and effective that actually was.

You could literally walk up to any hole at any point and just see the golf, which you go to any major, any USOPA we've been to any PGA. That's just not the case. There's like no grandstands. They don't even need grandstands. Right. You can barely see anything. Whereas at this course,

no matter where you went, you could meet up with a group on two green. Like I just walked over to the Rory Scotty group who had to play as a twosome. And it was as packed as you could possibly have it. Everybody that was there was there. And I just walked up and stood on a hill and was able to just watch Rory and Scotty Putt from like 30 yards away. And you could do that anywhere on the course. I was amazed at that. That actual golf course, I was texting with Max a little bit about it last night.

I don't know that there's any golf course I've ever seen that hole to hole to hole. it just makes everyone uncomfortable, man. Like there's not a single shot that a guy stands on. Any hole, even like the sixth hole is a pretty short, should be a birdie hole. Rory putted it off the green and made a double. I watched Max Homa hit like a two iron into a bunker. He's got an iron in his hand trying to hit it in a fair way.

That's very rare. On the 10th hole, it feels like that should be a pretty, like, playable. You know, a lot of the guys are talking about it's like a hybrid and like a wedge. If they hit a good one, guys are hooking it left. Guys are hitting it way right into the tree. and it's just that whole golf course makes everybody uncomfortable. And then they get to 17, 18. And those are like the two most treacherous shots in the world.

We saw it with Bramian, who was like basically leading the golf tournament. It hits two great shots on Friday that both go in the water. And he makes, what do you make a seven or an eight? And it's just like that that element to it, while the fact that the whole rest of the golf course is also just treacherous and uncomfortable a whole time. And then they get to 17 and then they have to hit the T shot in 18. that theater combined with how great of a viewing experience it is, combined with the clean logo, like that logo, the player's logo, just all over the place,

looks so good. Their jingle is fantastic. The Players' Championship jingle just feels like important every time that you hear it. So yeah, I thought through and through top to bottom, I was pretty just blown away at the Players' Championship and how elite of an event it is all around, I feel like. Yeah, the course just shows up. man, like every single year.

It always just delivers, whether it's the wind on 17 or people putting it in the water in all spots that you wouldn't even assume. 15's a hard hole. 16's insane. So you get all of these big moments where guys are going for it towards the end of the stretch. A lot of risk reward, which it's perfectly built for a tournament like that where if it wasn't a Scotty Schaeffler would always come down to the end because you know that guys are going for certain things and guys are playing it more conservatively.

Tuesday, Wednesday was awesome. I mean, it's practice round. but the vibes were like definitely major-esque where the players were locked in every guy was like on the putting green not really paying attention to any of the fans or anything you could tell that it's an elevated you know that they're trying to win this thing there's no hooting and holler and it's like we're getting to this fucking golf course we're going to go home we're going to study and we're going to come back so i really like the vibes there all the fans really took it very seriously too and the logos yeah the logo is insane our merchandise sold out um basically on friday and then saturday there was like a couple of of hoodies left. So thanks again to everyone. I know that we've been saying that a lot on social media of just like how insane this is that we got a merchandise deal with the players and the PJ tour. Ordered four times as much. They ordered four times as much as the waste management and it sold that in the same amount of days as the waste management. So I don't know how that's possible. I don't know what's all, I don't know what's going on. I mean, I know the logo was insane. I know that things are

going well around here. But just the players is so different. And to see our logo on the side of hoodies and shirts and hats and seeing so many people. I'm sure you when you were there on the weekend, you, I mean, we got tweets like everywhere you look, someone was wearing something, Barstall Golf. We kind of just took over the entire property. That's crazy. Like, there's a lot of competition out there, obviously, the YouTube space, all these things. What we did this week at the players is pretty fucking outrageous. Like, there's literally no one else in there. It's us Nike, Adidas, fucking, uh, I mean, William Murray. I mean, like, who the, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I mean,

it's crazy. Definitely got to feel like we walked into the wrong room. Bro, and we're like, we're a merchandise brand now. Like that being in the tent is out of control. Yeah. Seeing that set up was crazy. And we sold out.

We're like the only brand that they're like, hey, we have to take this setup down because you're not there anymore. People were texting at me on Sunday being like, you guys weren't here. It's like, yeah, we were.

They literally took our footprint off because we couldn't buy a single thing anymore. We're gone. I was blown away at how much of it was being worn around the course. I was like, you know, all these people bought it. it and then are already wearing it or they came back another day after buying it the day before or not wearing it today so it was all over the place so yeah i mean just a huge thanks to everybody

it's not that they we ordered as much as we ordered for this tournament compared to the phoenix open and sold out earlier than i think we sold out for the phoenix open so i don't know how that's possible but uh but yeah there were just uh four play fans everywhere um and you know i'm starting to realize too that we get a lot of the you know a lot of the folks that are into what we do that buy the merchandise. It could be now from a diverse, you know, thing that we do that they're into. It could be from the YouTube channel.

It could be their big fans of the podcasts. It could be they play in the Barso Classic every year. It could be from the four-play social channel. Like they just, people know us from different stuff now, and you kind of forget when we just work and I log in and see your guys mugs and then log off and upload it to Bush, and then he just stays up 24-7, 365 editing and shit.

You just forget that, like, we're in so many different areas doing stuff. And so, yeah, that logo, as cool as it is combined with our logo and then people actually buying it and selling it out. And the fact that it was, I mean, if we would have had one hoodie there, if they would allow us to sell one hoodie in that tent, I would have been blown away. I would have been like that. It seems like you shouldn't be doing that. And we sold like hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of it. So pretty surreal.

Great work by our merch team. Enormous thank you to all of our fans. Because, yeah, obviously we wouldn't be able to do that if I weren't for our fans. Had a couple of the guys were in it. Calam Taran. Crazy. Teed off on 17. Which practice around was that?

Wednesday. Calam Taran is preparing for the players. I mean, this guy, we had him on last year at the 3M. He barely got his tour card. He had to like race to the finish of the PGA tour season to secure his card. When we met Calum Taram at the 3M, so we played the first, we played the pro M, played the first, the front nine was Sam Ryder. Yep.

And he was great. And I feel like we had had Sam Ryder on the show. maybe we knew him a little bit. He was the ace man at the waist man. That's right. And then the back nine was Calam Taryn, and we didn't know him. I didn't know what to expect. And I actually thought after the first hole, I didn't think that he liked us.

I thought like, he was like, who are these clowns that I have to play this pro-am with? And now he's wearing our merch teeing off during a practice round at the player. Then he hit that shot from that bunker. Insane. It was like a ball above his feet. And he had to just like stab at it from like 170 yards away. And the ball went to an inch. and I looked at him, I said, whoa, like, you're legit.

Like, I thought you were some fucking bloke or whatever. I didn't know who the hell this guy was. And then he put that ball right next to the hole, and I'm like, this is a different like, you're a real golfer. That video is on YouTube, by the way. I feel like we didn't promote that. We kind of just threw it out there because we had a video just saved and then we just put it out in the winter.

If you would search 4Play 3M, we play with Cal and Tar and Sam Ryder at the 3M tournament, it's an amazing video. It's really, really cool. So go watch that. But we gave him. So he messaged me on Instagram saying, love this hoodie. And I'm like, I'll send you one. And I asked him for his address.

And he goes, I'll be at the players, mate. Like, I'll be at the tournament. So he's like, I'm going to be playing. So I'm like, I'll hand deliver you one. So we're walking around with this hoodie. And I had one for him. And we're looking for him all day. Practice rounds are tough because you don't know who's out there.

They kind of go by their own schedule. And Brendan Jones and I were walking around. and we just see Tommy Fleetwood walking into the clubhouse and I'm like Tommy and he like came over hugged us. He goes, you playing this week? I never know when he's fucking kidding when he, if he hates us, if he loves us. Tommy is like, he's got me hook line and sinker. His dry humor, I can't get a beat on and he knows it I can't. He knows on Bambia on ice.

Like I just can't get my legs under me when it comes to him. It's like a one two punch. So he's like, you play? I'm like, no, no, we're here for the media. Like I answered him like genuinely. You answered him literally. I was like, no, no, we're media. It's like Barstil sports.

So then he I do a podcast We're Taylor Big guy He's like, Franky, I know We're not playing He's like I know Whatever So I'm like you want a hoodie

I just like figure I just give it I'm like do you want a hoodie And he's like sure He didn't know why I was giving it to him And he's looking at it goes This is really nice And I'm like yeah dude

It's ours like You see the logo on the side He goes no way I'm gonna wear this every He looked at me in the eyes He goes I'm gonna wear this Every single day

Walking into the clubhouse I promise you that I'm like all right And I thought he was being Fucking sarcastic again Turns out He wore it every single day walking into the clubhouse. Danny, didn't he see you and been like, where are you guys?

Yeah, so he saw me on Friday. He had just finished his round and he was like, where were you this? I was like, what do you mean? He's like, I'm wearing your hoodie every single day. I'm waiting for you guys. So then on Sunday, the PGA tour tweets out, the leaders show up to the clubhouse and he's wearing it again. He wore four days in a row from Thursday to Sunday. Before Sunday, we were hitting up every photographer that we knew on property being like, were you here this morning when Tommy Fleetwood arrived? Because he said he's wearing our hoodie every day. We still didn't know if he was kidding or not. No, I had no idea. You can never get a beat on him.

And then like Frankie said, Sunday video came out. Sure enough, there he was wearing our hoodie. And the hoodie was like too large for him too. So I really appreciate him wearing it. He looked like a little child in it. It was great. I know. It was definitely too big. So then we have this. So now we have to get Calamow hoodie. I gave Tommy Fleet with that hoodie. So then we seek, we get a hoodie from the pro shop bought it. Because I mean, that's just how that had to work. We had to buy our own stuff from the pro shop. It was unbelievable. And we walk in, we get our hoodie. We go up to Cal and Taronaron. Someone, Brennan goes, dude, he's on seven.

right now. He's getting off 16. We rush there. He's walking off 16, playing by himself, right? No. No, he had a couple guys with him. He had a couple guys with him. Yeah. I guess we just saw him walking up by himself. But he's walking on 17 and we go under the ropes and he's just like amazing. Puts it on. Calam puts it on and goes and hits his shot on 17 with the hoodie on. I'm like, this guy's the biggest fucking legend that we've ever interacted with.

He's great. I mean, when does that ever happen where a guy wore a barstool golf merchandise as he hits the most, iconic shot at the most iconic golf course of the year. I mean, come on, man. That was nuts. That was nuts. So Callum's the man. Tommy's the man. They're all the men and all these guys are the men. It's the Brits, man. The Brits are. Yeah, seriously. The Brits are close. I think we might be friendlier with the Brits than we are with the Americans. Um, I wonder if it's because they like, like, if you're an American golfer, professional athlete, you kind of know what Barstool is. Brits are probably just interested in what it is. They're like, what is this like podcast, media? who are these guys?

They must be like, who are these guys? Like what? And the rest, and they're not a journalist. They're not golfers. They're not like, what are they? Bro,

I had that experience. I had that experience this weekend where I was walking and, you know, getting some shoutouts from the fans, which by the way is very strange for me, but very cool. And one of the women's security guards comes up to me and she's like, I must be living under a rock like,

who the fuck, who are you? Like, what are you? I was like, we have a podcast. She's like, what? I think it's a very strange thing for people who aren't initiated into it. My mom asked me that question all the time.

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He does a golf show where he tries to play in less than 90 strokes, and he carries luggage out on the bachelor occasionally. And they're just like, he talks about his penis from time to time. Well, that's your mom when she's in conversations with me. I don't, I keep my penis talk to, to a minimum. We're talking about people that are just the men. I got to give a huge shout out to a lovely Canadian fellow, Todd Hickey, who is the GM. of the saugrass marriott who frankey got you got you and trent got this guy's card he met you guys

he said he's a big man he gave you a car you took a picture of the card gave it to me because i was there over the weekend he's the general manager of the marriott marriott sawgrass which is literally on property so it's where like half the players in the field stay there a bunch of media a bunch of the corporate clients. They have over 500 rooms. It's this massive Marriott complex where they do events. And you literally walk onto the course from there. And this guy,

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I'm like, yep. He's like, no problem. Gives me a great employee rate. And I move in and I literally just walk to the course. I didn't have to touch my car. from Friday afternoon until Sunday. And then every day at the course, we go out there. We're having transfusions together.

He's the total legend from Canada who's in the hospitality business, nicest guy on the planet. So I got to give a shout out to Todd. He knows everybody too. So anybody that's been like if there's any like players that are listening or people at no player, they're probably going to know him from interacting with them. Or even if you work for Morgan Stanley or one of these companies that's a big corporate sponsor with the players, you probably know him because he just deals with everybody that goes through that hotel, which is a lot of people.

and he's just the nicest human being on earth. So we had a great time with him. He hooked it up big time. This will not be the last time that we do some business with Todd because obviously we love this tournament. We're going to come back to the area. So shout out to our guy, Todd. That guy is a fucking godsend.

We like, he kind of came up to us in the middle of all these stoolies. He becomes like one of the people where he's just like, oh, like, hey, how's it goes and I have this place and you're like, all right. You're kind of just like get through the conversation. Then you're like, wait a minute. This guy's really super nice. And he's got crazy, crazy things he's saying. He's like, bro, it's on the golf course, hotel.

on the GM. Let's go. Anytime you want to come. Like, Todd, you're the man. Dude, we hung out yesterday at hospitality on 17 up in the tent. And we just hung out up there with him and had a couple of cocktails and watched the players finish. And he's just one of those guys. It's like, is there anything better than this? How about this? View of fellas the whole time? And you're just like, this is fucking great. So love that guy. He's the absolute man.

And yeah, we're going to be seeing him again very soon. A couple gambling notes real quick. I just have to say that Kirk and myself with our little gambling show for the first 10. won some people some pretty serious money right out of the game. Kirk had the Hovlin top 10 hit. I had Tiral Hatten top 20 hit. And then Kirk had Ryan Fox top 30 that hit, but it didn't pay out full.

It paid out about half, I think, after the dead heat thing, which is incredibly infuriating now. And I get it. I get it because, like, you know, we're new, we're getting new into this in the top 20s and trying to find the value and all the bullshit.

And I get that like the first couple times that we made those bets and made them public a month ago, whatever it was with the Jason Day top-biving all that. Like half the sweet replies were like, watch out for the dead heat thing. And I was like, all right, how big of a deal could that be? It's the whole fucking thing. It's the only deal in the world.

So I get by people, it's like you're fucking begging for people to now make bogeys because the more people that are tied for any number that's going to be higher than just like clean top 30 is going to get divided by that amount of people. So he did have a hit on the Ryan Fox 1, You won money, but you didn't win full. And then the Kagan one was a miss for me. I had Kagan top 10.

He shot like a million, I think, on Friday and missed the cut. And then Kirk had him as his long shot to win. But if you took those other three, you got paid out pretty nicely. So it was a damn good weekend for that. We're going to be back. I think doing that again for the ballast part this week. We don't get a ton of direction on it, so who the fuck knows. Tirol Hatton, man, no sweat on that one.

thing was what a what a finish by him. He was crazy like it's crazy because it never felt secure and then I looked up and he was like alone in second. I was like what? What he should have 29 on the back? Yeah. Yeah. He did even buried his last.

He birdied his last five holes of the tournament to make himself probably like a good solid two million dollars. Oh, I mean he got two he got two point seven for finishing solo second and he stole that solo second. He was he was nowhere to be found with five holes to play. That shot on 18 from the trees was. fucking dirty dude it was because you watch guys all day and everybody was going in the water everybody would either go in the water or come up way short and he just fucking for whatever reason

he put it right up there and it was a thing of beauty seeing him smile was so weird he wears his emotions so on his sleeve and you just don't see the happy side of it you only see the negative like screaming psycho teural hatton but him smiling felt very strange it's like oh dad's happy today. It's like there was, let's ask if we can go to Chuck E. Cheese because he's happy, smiling today. Dude, he was talking to Tariko after and it was before Scotty had really pulled away and they were like, you have to

stick around because there's a chance that you have more work to do and then Scotty went crazy, but yeah, just a crazy crazy finish for, for Tyrell. I also think, like I also always think the Brits for some reason are more, are more money guys than the Americans, it feels

like, unlike, like I feel like he's smiling because he won so much money. Whereas like, I get that I get obviously that it's exciting. You played well. But like, you know, Homo when he finished second at Riviera, and obviously the emotions and him trying to win there again in front of people that were actually a crowd. And he was like devastated and crying because he came up in second. And like, Hatton was like smile and he's like, I'm at 2.7 million.

Like he seemed so probably. He also won like the tournament within a tournament. That's how, that's how like how much in control, Scott, he was that it just, they said it early. If they said it when they were on like the eighth or ninth hole, they're like, these guys are basically playing for second this week. Yeah.

And it's, it's funny because like as now that you're getting, we're getting more into the golf gambling thing. It's like, I'm mad at myself that I didn't have the balls to put him top 10 or top five or something. But then you look and he was like never even a lock to finish top 20. Like never. And then all of a sudden he just,

like I said, look up and he shoots 29 in the pack without even birdying. He par 511 pole. He shoot 29 birdies a million hole. So, um, so yeah, that was an insane finish.

from him. That was nice solo second when all I needed was top 20. So that felt good. It's got to be infuriating for maybe not even infuriating, but for Min Wu Lee playing with Scotty. Like, because Scotty isn't a guy who's like, you're not watching him being like, he wants to kill me out here. It's almost like he is so relaxed that that would drive me more crazy than somebody who was looking me in the eyes being like, I'm going to beat you today. Like that, like, I don't know. And I love watching Minoo Lee hit those irons. I don't know if I've, you don't see a guy like that anymore. who just hits an iron like 300 yards.

It was incredible. They were going through his ball speed numbers and he's not the biggest guy, pretty normal, like stature, even a little slider and smaller. And if you guys remember, like when we were at the kingdom and we were trying to get lurch

with his stealth two to get to 175 ball speed, that's what like Trotty was doing. He was trying to hype him up, trying to get lurched to 175 ball speed with his driver. Minwoo Lee was 172 ball speed with his two iron. That's insane.

Literally think about how that big, ogre idiot lard just swinging like a madman with his driver and hitting it hard and good and we're like holy fuck that's amazing he's in he 175 with his driver mean louis hitting it 172 with his two iron his driver head speed or ball speed coming off was at like 192 or 193 at one point on saturday i think was his driver and you're just like what the fuck how was he pulled it on he pulled it on 18 on saturday and hit it 295 it's like that's fucking outrageous Those are crazy numbers. He was great to watch.

I like that storyline of him and his sister and all that stuff coming up is really, really, really cool. So I love getting the new stars in there a little bit and getting them some exposure. And he's got the stash. And he seemed like Sunday obviously didn't play his best. And then in the press center, he seemed so jovial and in like a good moon. He was like, this was great. I learned a lot from this. I just felt so uncomfortable out there today, which is something that's like,

like he, but like, what a week I had. So I love that. He emerged at someone that just the second you hear him talk and you watch and play a little bit, you're just a fan of that guy. So I love that he emerged a little bit. Rory miscutt was pretty shocking. But then again, the player's championship delivers weird shit like that. Like it's always delivered weird shit like that. Danny?

Weird, weird shit. Weird, weird shit. Random shit. It was a big week for 72 holes because the leaderboard after 36 holes was basically seemed like a random number generator. Yeah. And the leaderboard, apart from Scotty, after 54 holes, was Scotty, Cameron Davis, Minwu Lee, Tommy Fleetwood, Aaron Rai, Chad Ramey, and Christian Bazaed. Those were the guys who were in contention.

By the end of 72 holes, the top five looks a little bit more than what you'd expect. Scotty Shephler, Tyrell Hatton, Victor Hovlin, Tom Hogan, and Hideki Matsuyama. It's amazing how the cream eventually rise to the top, the longer the tournament goes. Tom Hogi, man, what a weekend for him. 62. I mean, it was scoreable on Saturday, obviously, but like 62 is fucking crazy. All those golfers that have played that course, he's the lowest. Come on.

That Colton knows. That's what I was saying. What a sick, sick course record to have. I mean, other than Augusta, it might be the number one because it's the only course where like all the top players play every single year. Yeah. No, that's, that's true. That's a great fucking point. Jordan Speath.

I thought I saw some good stuff out of Jordan Speath again. I know I'm looking right now. He ended up at what? tied for 19th, it looks like. Yeah, he ended up tied for 19th. He was six under par. I think a little bit of that was like a consequence of he was going for it. He was trying to shoot something really low and get himself back at the tournament.

But just as again, as a guy that we've talked about a lot that you kind of wait for is like he going to be back. He was the guy that I sprinkled someone to win this week. He didn't win, but another solid week. And he's the kind of guy that it's just one of those names that everybody throws out. He could win at Augusta any given year. If he hasn't made a cut for 15 tournaments in a row, going into Augusta, that you feel like there's a chance he could win it. So with that tournament only, you know, two, three weeks away now at this point,

Jordan sees to be playing pretty well. And another guy up there that's playing pretty damn well consistently, Ricky Fowler. I feel like those two, man, it's like the spring break boys a little bit are starting to have, those guys are starting to have a little juice. Smiley's killing it on the mic too. Dude, I thought he did. I thought he did great.

I thought Smiley was great. He's like made for that gig. He was using bigger words than he usually did like when he first did it. Really? I noticed that he was like, well more like way more like verse in certain words on how to use him on the commentary side like he was you know that that's his craft now he definitely went to like that commentary school whether he asked someone or has been kind of studying up because you could tell he was way more polished he still was smiley

but he was like way more professional than I thought he was the other times I've heard him okay I love that yeah I saw he was very briefly in between 16 and 17 which is a great spot to hang out when you've got like the media crancho and he walked by jes and he walked by jes. a big smile on his face. He looked like the happiest guy on planet Earth, gave a little fist bump and he's like, I'm right back to the coverage. Then he was on in these fucking moving and jiving. I'm very impressed by the live radio, golf radio guys. You hear these fucking guys when you guys are out there falling around. Oh, bro. Welcome. Welcome to my world. And he holds it from 7B for us seven par and Tiger Woods moves to three under at the players

championship. Wait. So he's, all right. So I actually have not run into the radio guys. So they're doing live radio, they're following a group. Yep. And dude, and they're amazing. Like I get that we shit on old man golf media and they deserve it. These guys are actual talents. And you might not think that you're there, your favorite person, whatever. But dude, their ability to just talk about stuff and like just say stuff that seems so stupid and like, what the fuck is that guy doing right there? And he's just sitting there talking to the point where he's like, and Scotty Schaffor, he sets his left foot down behind.

Oh, he set his right foot. down and he has now put the putter behind the ball. Oh, he backed off. There's a little bit of a noise over it. And it's like, they just, the guy's just standing next to you talking to a lot of people. And then you can tell when they'll switch off to like the closed circuit to just their crew or something. And then the guy will be like, where do you want me? Do you want me on the fucking Schephyr group or where do you want me? And then I hit back in and he's like, and Schepler, oh, he's going to go with the driver here on 11 and he just keeps going. So I'm blown away at those radio guys just

walking around on everyone else trying to be quiet. And they're just fucking talking because that's their job. Blown away by those guys. I thought they're incredibly impressive. Incredibly impressive. Anybody who can do play-by-play radio of any sport is a million times more talented than me or any of us. Like that's so hard to do that I absolutely, we'll shit on old day and media all the time.

Radio guys like that, I will never shit on. That's such a talent. Yeah. No, I couldn't agree more. So I love them. I think they're fantastic. I just watch them sometimes for like 15 minutes. it straight. They just never stopped talking. And it's like, it's amazing what they're doing. So I was

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Rocket money.com slash four. We obviously got to talk about the biggest Tiger Woods news. It's been going around for the last week or so, which is that the pop stroke that Tiger Woods and Taylor Made are in on. That's right. It's fully open in Glendale, Arizona, and all the reviews that I've gotten from that place are that it's fantastic. And then the other pop stroke that, again,

is Tiger Woods and Taylor Made are in on that, has opened up here in the Tampa area. And Justin Mancini and our crew, T. Ray, and those guys went there, I think yesterday a day before and said it's awesome. So obviously, the Big Tiger Woods news is that I got to get to one of these things because apparently they're popping up and open it up all over the place. So the Taylormate guys were out in San Diego. I saw like, was it San Diego they went to?

Like Ollie and all those guys, they all went out there. I saw on their social media as they were having time of their lives at a pop stroke. So yeah, pop stroke is popping off. That's awesome. Huge. Got to get to one of these things. There's one opening in Scottsdale, but I think it's going to be another. six months or so because the Glendale one is where the football stadium is and it's like 45 minutes

away. And obviously that's just that's a little bit of a hike to go putter around us. But the Mancini and then were raving about it today just saying that it's literally, you know, it's it's top golf, but putting. The drinks are great. The food's great. The holes are phenomenal. I saw people like a couple of videos of people that got bowls and they're hitting it past the hole and it's rolling back in, which is always fun. So I'm just saying out there that I'm adding it to my list that I'm hearing great reviews from Popstroke and I want to get out there and I want to play. Are we going to talk about the actual Tiger news or are we not going to talk about it? What's that now?

What's that now? A couple lawsuits. A couple lawsuits that are floating around South Florida legal system. Look, the latest thing that I saw is that Mrs. Herman is not a victim of sexual assault or abuse sought to be protected by Congress when enacting the statute. Woods filing says rather Ms. Herman is a jilted ex-girlfriend who wants to publicly litigate specious claims in court, specious claims in court rather than honor her commitment to arbitrate disputes in a confidential arbitration proceeding. I saw something about that come across where we are and that's all I really took away from it. A lot of words that mean not a lot of things to me.

I just, you know, Danny, what do you think? I look, obviously this is a very sensitive topic. I don't want to say anything that's going to come back to bite me. It does seem like she, there was a question. There's two different lawsuits here. The first one, she was asked to fill out a sheet where it said, are you a victim of sexual abuse or sexual harassment? She said no. And the next one, something changed. And that was something that was used was those words.

My question is, isn't suing to end an NDA kind of a violation of the NDA? I mean, that's where my head went to. I actually thought, didn't she already go public? Not a lawyer. I'm not. I'm not 100% on that. Again, you know, look, if there's two people that are disagree, agreeing on something. One of them is a guy that I consider my brother and I'm going to have to

take one's word over the other. I did say that just be a neutral observer of the situation. I'm more likely to believe the person that I know that well. So I, so when I look at the different statements that have come out, it's nothing against Mr. Herman, who I don't know at all. But again, I'm just more inclined to take the word of the one whom I know on a pretty personal level and that's Mr. Woods in this case. I thought the wildest thing was the 11 year housing agreement where they were saying that they had a handshake, they had a handshake. Verbal, verbal agreement that she was going to be able to live in the house for 11 years.

That seems, all of that seems arbitrary. I blew my podcast. I did a podcast with some sports law guys and I said, have you ever heard of an oral, an oral lease for 11 years? And they said, no, I have not. She's saying that, again, I don't. know all the specifics, but she's... That actually took my attention away from Popstroke for a second.

When I saw that, it was like 11 years. You can hang out here for about 11 years. She's like, I got six years left. It's like that I just never, I mean, again, I'm not a lawyer either, not even close, but I never heard of an oral agreement about... He looked at his calendar. He's like, in 2033, I want you out of here. It's just like, I'm going to be sick of you.

And I don't want you here anymore. I don't want you at the house. We're moving. It's bizarre. The whole thing is, yeah. The story about how he did it is out of this world where he is it is it is that that's pretty like common knowledge now right? Is that like or confirmed that he pretended that they were going on a vacation because he wouldn't have gotten her out of that house and then she went into one car with a which she did not know that like lawyers were going to be in there and he went to another and they just drove their separate ways like it was a soprano's just fucking out of this world. I mean who can pull off that move.

I mean that's straight. of a movie. So I believe that was from her filing. So from her court documents that that's what went down, which I, you know, on that aspect, I don't know that she would like just make that up. So that's, you know, I sort of at all. We're going on vacation. We're going to, we're going to vacation. This car is packed. Can you just go on the other one? And then we'll meet you at the, at the destination. She gets in. There's someone in the back seat saying you're done. Just like, That's not illegal, though. That's not illegal.

It's just a fucking, that's how Logan Roy would do it. That's a move, dude. That's, you need a writer's room to come up with that. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Woo.

The whole thing is obviously sensitive, but it's all, sensitive. You don't know what's going on. It's also like, it's just, this guy's life is, it's never easy and it's never boring. It's always something's going on. What do the kids call it, a Zuvie, a movie? Wow. What do they call it?

this is a zuvie bro what do they say Alex Bush no Bush just put his head in his hands like Danny rat probably says shit like that you ever say Zuvie I've definitely heard

like major motion picture but never Zoot what is the definition of that there's just a movie bro it's just a major motion picture bro isn't a zoo Vee a thing I think that's what I think that's what people say now we're just we're the oldest

podcast in the world Zuvie Urban Dictionary. Dan, how is the how is the Netflix host Netflix bump? It's got to be pretty substantial. Very substantial. Very substantial. Yeah, I think, you know, you probably saw a little bit of it rigs.

Yeah, I, this never happened before. I always watched it happen with you guys, but it's happening. It's just, and we've talked about this a lot, the difference between the online chatter and the in-person chatter is just astounding. Online, I ruined the company. I'm the worst thing since ever. Yep. And in person, everyone's nicest can be.

So I've kind of changed my notification status on Twitter where I only get notifications from people that I really follow. And it's kind of quieted everything. And I feel like it's. Oh, you didn't have that prior. No. No, I was getting notifications where you just pull down and it's just like constant, constant. Oh, yeah. You got to switch that.

So I switched it. It's been big. Dude, I get notifications from almost not. The haters on Twitter don't realize how easy it is to block them out. Like when you just mute someone, they think that they're still getting at you and they're gone from they're gone. You never see them ever. It's impossible to see them. The only time I get the notifications, you only see the ones that people, you follow.

So it's like, you really don't see it. The only ones I see you now these days is if someone's talking shit is if one of my friends sends it to me is like, hey, like, do you see? I'm like, no, I didn't see it, but thanks for sending it to me. Please don't do, please don't do that anymore. It's the one that says Frankie gets pegged all the time. That's just to come on. I don't even know what that means. Well, peggy means you get a little strap on action.

Yeah. Is that what that means. Yeah, that's what a peggy is. So what was I thinking where you do this. sexual activity people. That's docking, dotting, got you. Okay.

I mixed up pegging and docking is what I mixed. It's all right. What's docking? Oh, boy. You know, it's, it's this,

you know, it's, it's like, it's like a Chinese finger trap, but with, with, you know, with the boys,

you know. Got you. With the boys. Give me some on that. I love that shit. Um, no, it's,

the, um, online versus real is a very real thing. And I know, Dan, you've obviously, you've been, going through it. And it's, you get, you, you get out there and you, you touch grass, as they say,

and you get boots on the ground. And people are like, hey, man, I like listen to the golf stuff. And you're like, thanks. And then that's it. It's fucking, it's, it's crazy. From time to time, you get the guy, it's like, I don't know who you are. And you're like, all right. I don't know what. That happens to me sometimes in, uh, at these events, like people come take a photo with us. And one guy will come stumble over. He'll be drunk and be like, I have no idea who you are. And I'll be like, I don't know who you are. And then we're in a great position right now. We just don't need to say anything to each other.

It's just the weirdest thing ever. You'll get that once in a blue moon. But most of the time, it's 99% perfect in person. There was a caddy at Pinehurst that did that to me once. And it was when we were hosting the classic. So I wasn't playing. So I'm like standing on the first tee.

Now I'm seeing everybody, sending everybody off. And obviously the caddies are come over as well. And you shake everybody's hand. So I shake the caddy's hands, both of them. I just say, hey guys. I'm Riggs.

Thanks a lot for helping everybody out today. let's try to keep pace going and I shake the one guy's hand and he just goes um I don't know who you are and I and I was like well no I we're doing it or I just introduced my job let me get to it let me get to it I'm rigs and you are like this is how humans interact yeah I just I just told you I just introduced myself uh and I guess it's some guy who's a big anti four play guy or whatever but uh but yeah I was like no it's I just introduced me so that's that was the whole point I just told you I am so um so yeah you get some weird stuff occasionally but It is very funny how 99.999% of people in real life are fantastic. So it's great.