Fore Play - Brian Baumgartner and Stage Fright

Episode Date: November 18, 2021

Our old friend Brian Baumgartner (00:41:11) from The Office joins Trent and Frankie in studio. As always, an excellent conversation ensues. Riggs details some heartbreaking short putt misses at the Barstool Classic live from Pinehurst and provides a full update as players battle for $10,000. And much more, per usual.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. All right, 4Play, By Barstool Sports. I'm live from the 18th Green here at Pinehurst, number two. We had all kinds of stuff happening per usual. We're all over the country doing all kinds of different things. We have Brian Baumgartner on the show. I was not there for Trent and Frankie.

We're in studio for one of our favorites. Clearly, we're gigantic office fans, half our references are the office. We've had him on the show before. We saw him at Pebble Beach, or no, Torrey Pines, and he's the absolute man. I'll ask you guys to sort of tease and hype up the Baumgartner chit-chat because you guys were there for it. I was not how to go.

It went as well as it always goes with him. I mean, he's just one of the boys at this point. He wants to play the match, so you'll hear a little bit about that. He says he hasn't forgotten about it. He remembers us, you know, every detail about us. He says that when he sees people on the golf course, he thinks when they come up to him that they're going to talk about the office, but they talk about foreplay and they talk about his interviews here.

So he was kind of mind-blown about that. And yeah, it was great. It was great to talk to him in real life as opposed to it through the cameras and through the zooms. He's just, he's fucking Brian Baumgartner, man. And I will, I'll give you a little peek behind the curtain. Are you? Yeah, I will. Okay.

I was starting the interview. You guys can hear, like, when you listen to this interview, you're going to hear that I was nervous about starting it because my dementia brain. or whatever we're going to start calling it, I couldn't remember how to say his last name, like correctly. I know who he is. I know it's Brian Baum Gardner, but I didn't want to like mumble it or ruin it. So we start the interview, just casual.

Hey, we're just rolling. We're rolling here. And I never introduced him. And I actually go to Trent, and I don't even know if this is on recording. I go, you want to, you want to start us off here, Trent? And Trent goes, what? Like, we had the plan for me to start us off.

And then right before, like, Trent, You want to kick us off here? And it was like an unspoken plan, right? Like when we had, so when we had Burke Kreisher in here, I'm a big Burke Chrysher fan. So it was just an unspoken thing that I would introduce him and be like, all right, Burke Kreischer's here with us. He's the machine. Like, all right, let's rip.

So Frankie and I hadn't talked about it with Baumgartner, but obviously he's a, I like the office, but he's a way bigger office fan than I am. He's listening to the podcast that Brian put out that whole thing. So then when we're in here waiting for Brian to come in, Frankie looks at me and says, you want to start this one? And I was dumbfounded. he was sitting there. Right, I was dumbfounded.

I was like, sure, like I guess I will. I don't understand why you're not doing it. You're the huge fan. And then afterwards, I actually didn't think you were going to talk about this on the podcast. Well, yeah. That you forgot the guy's name. I didn't forget. I didn't want to stumble over the name.

I thought that would be rude and inconsiderate. I just thought, like, I felt the way my brain was going. I was running downhill. Something about it. I lost all confidence in saying his last name and I just didn't want to fuck it up, even though he would have just laughed. You were going to be like, here with Madison Bumgarner.

Right. Oh, no, I'm sorry. No, and yeah, and in person it's different. We've been doing a little bit different thing. And Burke Kreischer kind of set the tone with this where we have the mics going before the guest gets in here. So as soon as they sit down, we just go. So it's less informal.

Like when we've been doing Zoom, Riggs does a great job of introducing the guest, talking about what they're promoting and all that stuff. In office, Frank and I've just been starting the mics. And so as soon as they walk in, there's less of a formal introduction. But at one point, like five minutes into the interview. I just go, by the way, we're here with Brian Baumgartner, and that's it. We were never going to introduce him. That's the only introduction we give.

So, I mean, it is what it is. And it also, it was a good interview. I mean, the way he talks about golf, he has a huge passion for the game. And him and Riggs have some things in common, which I didn't realize. So you'll hear that in the interview. Oh, yeah, Riggs. You'll actually be happy about that. You'll love that.

Really? Yeah, that's all coming in, you know, 30 or so minutes. Yeah, we did about 40 minutes with him. He's just great. Like every time we see him, like Frankie said, he's just, he's a delight. And he does really want to put a squad together and face us in a match. So we got to get that all figured out. Tells an unreal full story.

I love that he's a stick at golf. Because he's a, isn't he a six or something like that? It's like a five and a half right now. He hasn't been playing that much. So probably could be lower. Kevin is not a five, you know, it's like so good. But he is because in the show he's sneaky good at sports,

which is really funny. Right. And he's like a big poker guy. Yeah, Unreal poker guy in the show. So a little trick of the trade. I do this all the time. Frankie, this happens to me all the time where just basic normal names come on

and I just scour YouTube for a few minutes until someone else introduces them and I fast forward to when they give the introduction and I just listen to how they say it so that I don't mess it up. But if you don't have enough time, obviously you can panic. I agree with that.

And there are shows. I knew his name though. I know how to say it. I had like Snickers mouth or something. Like something, I had just eaten a snack and something happened to me where I just couldn't speak for that moment.

And I felt stage fright to say the name. It was almost like being on stage at a high school talent show and you have to say your lines and you have to do it and you just get stage fright. That's what I got. I couldn't say his name. And I looked at Trent for some sort of help. I was on a fucking cliff and he didn't help me for the moment. And I'm like, all right, how you doing, pal?

I just didn't say his name. So you guys are all going to hear my anxiety and my brain melting. Have fun with that because that's a look inside how fucked up my head is. Well, speaking of stage fright, we had some serious moments last night on the cradle And a big playoff that we were doing where a couple really short puts were missed That were completely devastating to the point where one of the guys that missed one We haven't even seen or heard from him since and this was last night I think he maybe his partner just like beat him up and eliminated him from Earth

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So Barstool Classic Championship. We're out here right now. It's 75 and sunny, by the way. Oh, not a single cloud in the sky. Oh, it's just. Wow. It's getting cold. It's getting cold in New York City.

Yep. It's getting chilly. Seattle stinks, if we're going to be bluntly honest. Yeah, lurches in Seattle. Yeah, fucking piner's looks great. I guess I could go this way. It would probably be better. You guys are looking at the clubhouse right now.

It's definitely a better view, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was a miss. I don't know what I was doing there. I kind of wanted, I like the sun. Like when you block out the sun, you kind of look majestic when you do that. Anyways. So we're here for the Pioneers Championship.

We got, I just sent everybody off the final T, but our format, I talked a little bit about the format last time, but our format is where we're doing a cumulative score, and then we have a big cut, and then top 46 teams get to play Pioneers number two today. So we had yesterday 13 teams for six spots, and we decided to go to the cradle, and we had like 200 people around the cradle. First group, we had, you know, we did pure alternate shot, because I didn't want to stand there forever, so we did pure alternate shot on the cradle, and we had four guys hit it inside of two and a half feet.

And the first guy that came up to put one of those two and a half footers to advance the Piders 2 just missed the hole completely. Yeah, that's a nightmare. Yeah, that's it. I mean, you're also, you're the meanest guy in camp saying, I mean, you're basically getting people to fight with one another. Alternate shot, some guy stuffs one. And then, like, my dumb ass goes up there and misses the whole hole. I mean, you'd kill me. So it's like, you're asking these people to go home and almost get different flights by the way your position in this tournament. It was ruthless. It was a ruthless format. I did it, A, because I'm kind of a sicko for sure. And B, because of time. I mean, we just, if we have. to watch 26. It's also a great format, too. Yes. It's a great point.

It's the right decision. It builds camaraderie. The people that have great success with it elevate themselves. I just know in that spot, well, one, I got to hit the wedge shot in, even though you're probably a better wedge player if we were playing together. But I just can't. I'm not doing that part. No, I think we'd have you hit the wedge shot in. I might stand out here so you guys get a view.

You're, look, unbelievably uncomfortable ever since you made the switch. If you stay in that. Do whatever is most comfortable for you. You don't have to, you're really moving around a lot. So it's really up to you. A majority of the podcast is in audio form. So many people don't care what your background is. That's a good point.

So we have four guys hit it inside of two and a half feet, right? And the one guy steps up and just misses it. Everyone's like, oh, no. We ended up having about four bogeys on the first hole. So those teams are eliminated. We had three birdies. So then we had six teams for three spots on the second hole. And the pin on the second hole was in this like middle left spot.

It's pretty much the same pin that I got my home on one, except the green is significantly like faster right now for whatever reason. The grass, there's just not a ton of grass because it's November. So all the balls that were landing in this little left nook on the left side of the second green in the cradle, they either would all spin back and it either hits the hole or it spins off the green to like a 10 to 15 foot. up the hill. Well, we had people that would hit it just behind the hole and a couple of them stayed just behind the hole and we're like five, six feet above the hole. And so what we had was one guy almost dunks it, right? It lands, spins back, lips out. Everybody goes crazy. I'm sure

you guys saw that video. And then we had like half the teams off the green on the front, half the teams that hit it past the pin that hit it off the green on their first put and a couple of them make bogeys. Long story short, we get to, we had one birdie on that hole and then we had two pars were in. We had the guy that hit a shot that almost went in. Another guy lags it up there close. So his partner's got like this far. I don't know.

Okay, he's got this far. And if he makes it, I'm talking, it's maybe a little bit over a foot, uphill, misses the hole, and it ends the playoff, and he legitimately hasn't been seen or heard from since. Oh, my God.

Yeah, that's, I mean, that's terrible. You know, I feel for that guy. That's awful. I, yeah, that's terrible. I hope he's okay. Wherever that person is right now, if he's home, if he's back at his home club, if he's practicing somewhere,

I just hope he's okay. And it was like we had, you know, the third hole in the cradle, which is Frankie's ace hole, which is the punch bowl. It's got like the new cradle crossings behind it. So it's ready. So people start to migrate to the third hole being like,

we're going to have 200 people around the third hole. We're going to have like three teams for one spot going into the final round. And this guy just misses it. And then the whole party was just like, Oh, it's like over now. So not only was he sad, it was like the whole place was just sad, and it was a devastating moment. So speaking of being like, start, you know, stage fright, whatever you want to call it,

this guy was completely devastated. It ripped my soul out to watch a put like that miss. But ended up clearly we have 46 teams that teed off on Pioneers No. 2 today. I would say our leaders are probably on like the third or fourth hole right now, and they're playing for 10 grand cash. So yeah, 75 and sunny. It was pretty chilly the last few days, but Barstow Classic Championship's been fantastic so far.

Very good. The scene there is unmatched, man. I mean, the Barstle Classic just does it right. The championship is something else with the cradle and now the cradle crossings and just that whole Hanna Cook just came back. She's here for advisors and she's like, you just didn't want to leave. You don't want to leave that scene.

It's a fun scene down there. So, yeah, I mean, good luck. all the guys that are playing right now, even though when this comes out, we'll have a winner. Yeah. But yeah, congrats on another successful championship. It's amazing how well it's put on where the fact that people care that much to try and win. And our, I mean, our team's unbelievable. Lisa Litvak, who runs all of our live events is just off the charts, like her detail

and how obsessive she is with every detail of everything, it makes sure it goes perfectly. That just translates to an event like this so well where people show up. and it feels like it's a professional event. It feels like it's a major championship down to the point where they got, they hooked them up with driving range signs. You know how like when you go to the US Open, they'll say like Rory McElroy with a little USGA logo and like a trophy if he's won like the US Open before.

Well, they had their Barstow Classic championship little like tags that you would slide in behind you on the range and everybody gets to take home with them and put on their wall. So it's like little touches like that that I even know what we're going on that our team comes up with. It just makes it such a cool event. So, yeah, our team just crushes it. They've been completely dominating.

But yeah, it's been good so far. I'm a little – I'm excited for the finale because we've got really good golfers coming down the stretch. We have a two-stroke lead. And for Dingus – this guy's name is Dustin Dingus and Ed Waller. And the whole party's rooting for Dingus to win because that's just so phenomenal that Dingus would win the Barsoe Classic Championship. How's the plus six and a half doing? How's what? Does my audio stink?

Yeah, I think the audio I just leaned in. I just leaned in, by the way, like it was going to help. Is the audio we're sending them loud? Trent, uh, was asking about how the plus six and a half is doing.

Miss the cut. Oh. Yeah. That's a tough spot to be. It is. It is. And a half giving strokes. Like,

unless he literally is Tiger Woods, that's just, I don't understand how we can be that good or how he's going to hold off people at strokes. That just, that feels like, powered him for getting there, but that's going to be tough one to keep it going.

Yeah. So Corn Ferry Tour player, who's been winning tournaments and stuff, phenomenal player, but just giving so many shots away, you're right, that if he doesn't play like the best, you know,

or at least really, really, really good golf, you're just giving up so many shots. And even, you know, like we talk about, plus three handicaps, plus two handicaps,

are getting a few shots, at least on these courses. And Pioneers number one. I love Piner's number one. But it's, you know, it's about six. thousand yards from the tips and so you had groups going really low out there and then um on piner's number

four there was we kind of had a little bit of a british open situation where there was a good draw and a bad draw so monday it was significantly colder probably stayed in like the mid 50s and the wind was like 20 25 miles an hour for the whole day so people that played number four that day the course playing almost 7000 yards it's cold so it's playing even longer and it's super windy so it's playing even longer and then number one so short that like even though it was windy and cold there as well people could still just go low with their strokes how many they're getting because there's a plus six and a half and then people played number four yesterday Tuesday uh were able to pretty much light it up not that dissimilar from course one because it was like 65 degrees sunny and almost no wind

um so there was a good draw if you got number four on Tuesday and number one on Monday and it was a bad draw if you got the opposite so I felt a little bit bad however our leaders shot I think nine under on number four at first day when it was really windy and cold and they're not even getting that many shots they're getting like three shots and one shot and they still shot nine under nine under back-to-back days to shoot 18 under through two rounds so they're really good players and again we're rooting for dingus because if dingus wins that's just a really nice story uh social media zach how's his brother doing well they made it to the uh to the championship today i would say they're like middle of the pack okay um going into the going into the final round so i want you guys to try to guess what

the cut is, keep in mind, it's two days of two-man best ball, 50% handicap, but everyone's getting a pretty good amount of shots because there's a plus six and a half in the field. So I want you to guess what the cut line was. We had the top 46 teams out of about 105,

110 teams, top 46 advanced. What do you think the cut was? You said it was pretty brutal on the four course, and if that's playing 7,000, like yeah, one group. What do you think, Frankie? Do you have an idea? I was going to say, like, six under. I was going to say five under, I guess.

Is it better golf than that? Is it nine under? I'm going to go nine under. I'm going to say five under. Lurch? Lurch. I'm going to keep with six. It was four under, got into the playoff on the cradle.

Wow. Wow. Okay. Wow. Which is way like higher scoring that I thought it would have been. I thought people would have gone lower. Definitely. Yeah.

I mean, so we're people. It's the best from each flight. So it's like you got to think that every one of these guys can put scores together, especially with getting strokes. Yeah, nine was too much. Yeah, four. That's, that's... I took a shot at the moon there, Trane.

You did. If it worked out, we'd be popping bottles right now. That's a shot back at everybody that criticizes all of us, though, playing golf. You know, it's not that easy. No, it's not. It's like, all right. No, golf's a hard game. Really hard.

Look, golf can be difficult sometimes. We've seen some really good shots. We've seen some really bad shots. There was a team that shot like 22 over, I want to say. Kings. And that team qualified. So you got to really wonder how the hell that happened. But yeah, you know, it's been fun.

It's been, I'll say in the morning it was, it's been chilly. I imagine it's similar up there. But in the morning, I mean, we had one morning. Guys were teeing off. It was like 34 degrees outside or something like that. Yeah, that's cold. That's real cold. I will say, I know this is.

I know this is an audio podcast, but we're going to have to do highlights of rigs moving around. You moved around maybe seven times in this golf cart. Can't get comfortable. And all within the vicinity of three feet, but yeah, clearly can't get comfortable. So that's just that's going to be it. Next, he's going to be on top of the cart. He's going to be on top of the cart. The most preposterous was the lean-in.

You did the footage of the 18th and basically the clubhouse, and you did kind of a bend at the hips lean down in, which was maybe the weirdest position I've ever seen. But I like it. So the main reason I'm doing the shuffle, Originally it was to get to the background. I was focused on the background. But now it's because when I do the lean and this fucking microphone is so heavy

that I have to switch hands every handful of minutes. Oh, watch out for that ulnar nerve. All right. It's one of those moments where he says you sometimes find yourself in a position where you have an awkward bent elbow state and you're holding something heavy, like me with pizza review cameras all those years and holding it in an awkward position and that nerve. You got to do this little strong.

stretch here where you do the things around the eyeballs. Is that what your doctor told you to do? Release. Yeah, it's an ulnar nerve. I'm sure he wasn't fucking with you? No, dude. I told Rohn about this. He does it every day. You do it 10 times a day. You can really feel that in your elbows. Can you not? Lurch? Yeah, you can. I was actually, I was struggling to get my left side. And kind of let him, kind of let him release.

Kind of let him, yep, kind of let him release. Ooh, I might have just fucked something up there. I will say the beginning of that stretch, I thought he was messing with you. No, I'm not messing with you. You can look it up online. It's like an ulnar nerve cubital tunnel type of, they call it flossing when it comes to the nerve. Mike Jones? Actually, you imagine what people around here thought I was just doing that looked at me in this golf cart doing this?

I've noticed the more my body breaks down, the more I've realized I have to stretch. And I was talking to Rhone about this on my way to Pup Punk when we were flying out to Indiana. and he was like, yeah, dude, you got to stretch. Like, his back started hurting him last year, and he's like, it's a nightmare. And there's all these stretches that you do to really make sure that you don't get hurt. And the thing that resonated with me is that you don't do these things until you get hurt. And you're actually supposed to do them when you're feeling healthy, right? Like, you're supposed to do all of these things while feeling healthy so that you continuously feel healthy.

I've never thought of that. We got to start looking at Lurch as our future. Like, he's just us a few years down the path. because Lurch has been stretching ever since I've known him. He'll just... His pathetic body, he'll just stretch at the golf course when he's not hurt. And then when we were at... Were we abandoned?

When you stretch me out? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Bannon, yeah. And then we did a nice stretch. I think the two of us out in Arizona, I think I got you first feeling a little limber out there on the ground one time. He was stretching out in Australia, too.

But yeah, for me, like the first time I've ever done a cubital tunnel stretch was after I got elbow surgery. I mean. Like there was maybe had I done that for years upon years while my elbow was kind of hurting. It would have worked. You know what I think will also help? If I lick your butthouse. Oh. Lurch. Have you ever been? I saw that. I have not. But if you, brother, if you're looking for a friend to join you in one of these endeavors, call me up. I'll join you in a moment. You were I saw so many lurches walking around that place that we need to add another one. It's your heaven. It's, it's towel time. Like, you're going to see his balls. A few. You're going to see his balls.

he goes with you. No. Oh, yes you will. Why are you so obsessed with seeing balls and penises? At the bathhouse? I'm not obsessed with that. That's why I haven't got to say. I haven't got to them because I don't want to see balls and penises. You're not going to. This is like, remember when Aiman Lynch wrote that article about how guys were reviewing

a restaurant they've never been to? Yes. This is what you're doing to a bathhouse. I don't think you'll see my balls, but I would say the percentage chance of you see my balls goes drastically higher if we join each other at a Russian bathhouse. Let's do ember first. Let's do ember first, and then we'll get into the bathhouse thing,

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This machine is ember machine. I can't believe people can make stuff like this, that it just on your phone and your app. You can be in the other room, and it just tells you your coffee is the right temperature. That is preposterous. But, damn, man, it's like his big brother. Saying that out loud, it's crazy.

It's just like that thought of, like, you just look at your phone. Like, you're right, the coffee's perfect temp. I can drink it now. It's so cool. I can't. I just couldn't believe it. I was like, no way this thing is smart.

This mug with my coffee. So it's a great, great option. Lertz, I was almost upset that we had the whole bathhouse conversation without you here because, like they're saying, I mean, flip-flop guy,

towel time guy, just like walking around, being like comfortable in the least amount of clothing and around the bros. Like, that's kind of your, your, and the fact that you missed the whole bathhouse thing was shocking to me. and quite sad, to be honest.

Yeah, very. And the way that I'm just looking at Trent right now, just smile and nodding, looking at me, I know that he feels the same way. And I'm jealous, because that is something that I absolutely love and adore. Like, there's no better way to relax than just going into, like, different temperature climates.

And now I've never been, actually, to a Russian bathhouse. Stunning. But I've done kind of like the poor mans where, you know, you're, I don't know, in a sauna. you might be at like a ski resort or something like that you go outside jumping the stove real fast it just kind of like you know jacks your body up at that sensation and going back in the heat feels so so good so you know next time that you go or you're thinking about going feel for shoot a text and

i'll come from wherever the hell i am in the world to join you because it is amazing and actually sometimes just like in the shower on a like it'll be like a real nice temp but i'll think to jack the temp down to like freezing cold in the shower before I start my day because I actually do think there's some study that it helps your metabolism or something like that so that's like a poor man's diet of if you're if you have the temp kind of hot and then you turn it all the way down to like freezing cold

for 30 seconds and then get out I think it actually is really good for your body for like the flow of blood and other things like that so I do do that from time to time. Yeah I think it's a circulation thing like it helps all of your your body's circulation if you do things like that I'm going to be a frequent visitor of this bathhouse,

so there's going to be more than enough opportunities for you and I to go together. And we're going to do that because it's a good time. I look forward to that. I'm kind of like desperate to try to find a place back in the city. So that could be a real nice, hey, I'm welcome back to the city. Let's go to the Russian bathhouse for maybe 24 to 36 hours. Done. We've got some crazy shit going on in the office today.

One of the main reasons we're not down there in Pinehurst was I'm choreographing this drone. shot around the office and I'm a little nervous about talking about it because of how crazy it is to pull off. I don't even know. Like there's a chance this video never sees the light of day because of how hard it is, right? Like there's a probably 30% chance. Dude, I can't even imagine because we've all seen the one that I always go to is the East Lake one at the Tour championship with like Rory doing an interview inside and ended up with the Abe answer like hold a shot, right? And there's like all kinds of crazy stuff that happened in one shot. It's one take. We got Jay Christensen, I think is his full name.

Jay Bird Films B-Y-R-D on Instagram. You guys know who this guy is. He's him and his team. They're the Hard Knocks guys from the Dallas Cowboys shoot where I went through the stadium. They're the guys that did the bowling alley video that went crazy viral a couple of years ago. Such a cool video.

Where I quote tweeted and said, how is this even possible? I'm watching it and not believing it. And then he reached out to me, Jay. He was like, hey, man, like thanks for the support. Like we'd love to set something up. I originally message him about coming to a golf shoot, which now he does. He's filming for the Brooks and Bryson match where he's tracking the golf balls.

He has him on his Instagram of him tracking these golf balls in slow motion. It's crazy. He's a wizard, dude. He wears the VR glasses, and he just fucking flies through this place. And last night we were setting up the shot. We're going to be starting on the street with a pizza review. And then he just flies through the streets of Manhattan, and finds this opening in one of these fire, fire doors in our office, and then he's just in our

office. So the biggest thing that I've been stressing about is coming up with the route, making sure everyone is on point during the route, not looking at the camera, being themselves. So it really is, it's, I want to show people how crazy and like how much thing, how many, how many things are going on in this office. And I think it's a perfect video for it. Because Barstle just is the funest place to work. And also there's a lot of work that goes on. like you're going to see all the desks. And it's a tour of the office through like a bird's eye view. It's nuts.

So we have that going on in about 25 minutes. We set it up last night. I mean, it's, it's crazy. Do he put the VR glasses on me and the goggles? And I, so he has a preview goggles and then the ones that he was wearing. And I was sitting on a chair holding on for dear life making sure that he wasn't. I think your laptop's going to die by the way. This thing's going to, we're going to lose this.

I think the Zoom laptop is going to die in like one second It's gonna plug it in you get just run across You're good you can plug it in So man this is like he's got to get that thing plugged in Right I'm looking at the battery part right now it's right up in the corner I think we might lose this fucking podcast No What if his laptop dies dude

I lose the whole thing Let's get him on the hustle He's hustling bro he's fucking running dude This is more stressful than the drone video. Trent, you have a charger with you or no? I got nothing on me. And I think that's a new laptop.

I have the old laptop. Here I see he's running. He's running. He's running. If you guys just disappear, it's over. Go, go, go. You can run through the screen. Come on, dude.

This is an emergency situation. Why are you worrying about the camera, bro? Plug it in, dude. Here we go. Here we go. Over here. Over here. Over here.

Find it outlet! We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We did it. We did it.

Bro, that was on less than 1%. Holy fuck. I think it was the first podcast. Alex has done in person. It's been a stressful go for everyone involved. He's got there. He got there. Good run, Alex.

Dron video. Drone video. It's happening. Hopefully it comes out around Cyber Monday, Black Friday. You guys will see it. There's a lot of moving parts. It's a nightmare. I'm not worried about the drone guy.

I'm worried about our people. Like making sure that in each, dude, he's going into each studio and they're all choreographed. like just things happening in each room throwing paper airplanes and there's a real chance we have one shot at it right because dave's only going outside once like i'm like hey can you just go outside and like stand here for a second we're gonna start he's like yep i only have like five minutes i'm like all right right people are busy here so we can't maybe two but probably only one shot it's a dream to have this guy in the office it's an honor to have this guy in the office j um look him up on Instagram, you're not going to believe the stuff this guy does. He is like the future. I think he's

the future of what filming is, right? I think that sports will go to that where he can just track anything. He's showing me stuff that he's doing with the NHL of these drone shots on the ice. He can act like the puck and fly his drone into the goalie's glove and like the goalie catch. The view is just so crazy. It's such a perspective that if you showed one of his videos to, to, to someone from the 1400s, they'd burn them at the stake. They wouldn't, you're flying. You are flying. I mean, the main response to the bowling alley video was that it was fake.

People thought it wasn't real. And he's finding himself in little nooks and crannies in this office just like he was in that bowling alley video. He goes behind where the pins went in the bowling alley video. I just, I don't know. I don't know how he does it, man. And he does it in one shot. Like, I watched him.

I watched him do it last night? It's going to be cool. I'm like, oh, do you need me to carry the drone downstairs and like outside in front of the piece of place? He goes, no, I'll meet you there. And he just flew the drone down Manhattan, like, down 7th Avenue. What kind of approvals did he get? He must have all kinds of approval.

I guess so, but it's also one of those little drones that you can make yourself. So it's just got a GoPro on it, so it doesn't have any of the sensors or... Right, but like... Does it have, like, propellers? He's got propellers, but they've got... He's got prop guards. Prop guards on, so I can just hit you right in the head. Dude, when he was here a couple weeks ago,

seeing the office for the first time, I was sitting down. I was sitting down on the rundown chairs just talking to somebody, and he flew it within an inch of my face. And he didn't touch me, didn't do anything. But if it had hit me, it has those bumpers on it. It wouldn't hurt you at all. Yeah, so I got to get out. Did you hear it?

Oh, it makes noise. Oh, it makes noise. I mean, I think this drone goes 70 miles an hour if he wants to rip it. Yeah. So it's like, it's no, yeah. I mean, they're saying it's not going to hurt. Like, it's going to hit you like something punched you in the face. Like, what's going to hurt?

Last night. Just because it might not prop hit you. like it's still going to chew you up if it slants in your lap. Last night, someone, he goes to me, do you want me to really show you how I can rip around this place? I was like, I don't think so, but let's see it because I had his goggles on. And I swear I almost puked. I swear I almost puked on the fucking floor because he was going 100 miles an hour around these turns into rooms. Like there was at one point there was one of those stand-up desks and he went through the guards of the stand-up desk and flew with no regard for

human life just flying as if someone popped out of a door it's just dead like it was crazy man so now we really got to make sure this video comes out cool if it doesn't if it doesn't come out it means that it was on us that we couldn't figure it out as with the choreograph it has nothing to do with jay you can go see his fucking body of work no it'll definitely be our fault like it's gonna be on us for not being able to get everyone on the same page it's really hard to get everyone on the same page for a minute and a half where everyone's doing a choreographed routine. Jay is the one that he's going to fly that drone into that room. It's a matter if we're ready for it.

So it's also, I mean, there's a little bit of personal difference charm in it. If like one or two of the rooms, the people were just idiots and couldn't help look at the camera. True. Yeah. Looking at the camera is not the big thing. It's just like, we have one big shot. And if someone does it before he's like on them, that's going to make me puke. It'll be good.

Yeah. All right. Someone just blows it and they're just standing there like, all right, I guess we're just done. And then the drone comes through and it sucks. Exactly. It doesn't look like they're doing anything.

Last thing real quick, because then we all got shit to do. Do you guys see Phil Mickelson on the Manning cast? You know, I actually missed Phil Mickelson on the Manning cast, but I saw a lot of chatter about Phil Mickelson on the Manning cast. And people just fucking love the guy, as they always do.

He just brought it apparently. I haven't watched it, though. I saw some clips on Twitter. I haven't either. I'm the same way. I saw clips. I heard people chit-chatter and going nuts for their classic film Nicholson stuff, talk about how he's clearly going to be the future,

and he's going to revolutionize, like, the future of golf broadcasting, and how he's made for this, and he had a couple of his lines. I didn't get to see a ton of it either. I wasn't sure if you guys did. We've been obviously all really busy. Lurt, you get to see it all? I saw a little piece of it, yeah. I was watching it, but I was also my brother's daughter's kind of baby.

It was her birthday party. So I was kind of between two things, but I was listening to some of it. Yeah, I mean, it's good banter. It's good back and forth. Phil's a funny man. Those are three people to put in a room that, like, it's pretty good humor. What's her name, B? Appleby.

Yep. Appleby and Wells. Shout out to those two little kids. Yeah. Codfather of Appleby. Yeah, it was fun. Apple. Great name, by the way.

Is her name is B or you call her Appleby? No. Her name is Appleby. That's my dad's mother's name. It's kind of a family name, but short, she goes by B. Yeah, I like that. It's a stunning. It's a cool name.

It's a cool name. It's a stunning name. It's a stunning name. We'll take you back a little bit. Might be the only one on planet Earth. Yeah. There's got to be a few. There's a couple Applebee's last name, like baseball players, right?

They're an Appleby. There's a golfer, right? Stuart Appleby, yeah. Stuart Appleby. Oh, yeah. He's the one who didn't he claim he got kidnapped or something in Hawaii one time? Oh, yeah, that's actually a crazy story. History forgets about that story, but if you go back and read,

was it him, I think it was him. If you go back and read, I don't know if there was even a Wikipedia on it. It's a crazy fucking story. You got kidnapped? I know we all get to go. Dude, I'm telling you, if you saw this. I'm just reading the title of an article, Alan B. B. robbed after missing cut in Hawaii.

So, yeah, there's something to read there. Like it started out as a pretty normal story, and then as it just, there were a lot of twists and turns, and I forget exactly what happened, though. Man, I'm trying to pull it up right now. Dude, the picture of him, he got the shit beat out of him. He got the shit kicked out of him, yeah. Golf Channelers report is reporting that Robert Allenby of Australia

was robbed, beaten, and dumped in a park after missing the cut in the Sony open. The way they write that makes me feel like because he missed the cut, he got dumped into a park. The network showed a photo. I get the two of those confused all the time, by the way. It's Stuart Appleby. Robert Allenby. It was still. The story's still really good. Oh, I didn't even make that. Yeah, it's not it's Robert Allenby not Stuart Appleby. We all had that fucked up. But yeah, he got. But then in the article says fellow Australian player, Stuart Appleby says he spoke to Allenby. That's a problem. He spoke to Allenby in his hotel room Saturday morning and that Allenby. he was trying to reconstruct what had happened.

According to Golf Channel, Allenby's caddy said they were in a wine bar Friday night. He says Allenby was beaten, driven some six miles away, and dumped in the park. He was found by a retired military man who helped him back to his hotel. And that's all they're really right. I mean, we got to talk to Ryan, Robert Apple, Allenby.

God, those names are too. I know. I think everybody should research this story and we should have discussed this next podcast to talk about our thoughts. I don't know if there's a lot of stuff. We'll do like a little throwback. We'll do like a little history, a little history podcast because I think there's been like some other reports around it. And people like, Frankie, I think people like really questioned it for a while.

I thought that it was just not closed to true. I think he got to get an in-depth podcast. Next podcast, everybody's got to do a little research. We've got to dive into it. Amen. All right. We obviously have a lot to do. And we already have this recorded interview with Brian Baumgartner.

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I love that. That was fancy. Do you know what that's for? Of course. What is it for? Marking the beginning of our session here. This guy's unbelievable. He's a podcaster.

He knows. Yeah. I don't do it, though. I make them figure it out. You're a fine podcaster, though. I've listened to it. I've listened to it. Of course.

And now we don't have the book in here. Where the hell's the book? I think you left it at your desk. Oh, my God. I was going to say, how dare you for releasing that book? Because I've already listened to the podcast. And now you're going to make me read a 500-page book about things that I obviously want to reread again. Yes.

We're joined by Brian Baumgartner, by the way. If you didn't know by now, you got to fucking take everything. How many times you've been on the show? Twice? Three times? Well, never here. I've never been in the studio. And let me just say this.

It's lovely. Well, we have the worst studio of the other two that you just went into. Yours, you have the worst? Well, you, so you did. Far and away, you just went to KFC Radio and part of my take. And then they shove us in a little gray room. Pardon my take. Have you seen the floor of that place?

It's fucking disgusting. Are you kidding me? This is definitely cleaner, but we don't even have a place to call our own. They throw our logo up on a TV. These come off the walls. This whole thing comes down. Oh, okay. For our inevitable collapse, they didn't want to put enough. They couldn't commit to a studio for us. To be fair, it makes sense. To be fair, it makes total sense.

I think that I have now part of it is I play golf. I get so many references about appearing on your show. Really? All of the time. I think they're going to be like, oh, I love you on the office. Oh, I love you on 4Play. And I'm like, what? You saw that? How did, how was it?

Yeah, so I've, no, I've not been in studio. So it's nice to be here. It is nice. What do you think of the office as a whole? I'm immunized, by the way, so you don't need to worry. I'm immunized. I was super worried. All right, Aaron.

What do I think, what? What do you think of the office as a whole? What do I think of it? Oh, oh, a barstool. Yeah, because this is your first time off? That was tough one, all right? Because you're speaking to a star of a show called the office. Oh, yeah.

Sorry. That was a mistake. It aired on NBC with that guy from... I remember hearing something about that show. Despicable me. I like it. Yeah. There's a lot of energy here.

Yeah. I think so. Well, we're starting to get back into the swing of things. How long have you been back? We've been back. Honestly, we were here for a lot of it. Like, a lot of the... We continuously made content throughout.

We learned to kind of do the podcasting from home. But like, this is like the... I would say the last couple... maybe two months, it's really been like full fled. We're getting guys like you back in the office and we're seeing a lot of people on their press tours. It's been nice to finally see people in person. Right.

But yeah, I mean, I think we're back 100% at this point. The city feels back also. Yeah, definitely. He went to a Russian bathhouse the other day. That's how back the city is. Have you ever been to a bathhouse? No. I had never been to one either, but it's, it was one of the greater experiences of my life.

That is a bold statement. It was great. This is a guy that doesn't do much. He golfs. He breaks 100. He did it once. Okay. And he goes to Russian bathhouses now.

That's all the things he does. Yeah, I've been living in New York for almost five years now. And I have not really taken advantage of it whatsoever. I went to a Broadway show very early on when I moved here. And then I kind of dialed it back to nothing for the last four or five years. So a couple of guys who work here were like, do you want to go to this Russian bathhouse? And I was like, I guess I'll give it a try. I want to try and get out there and do some more cool things.

And it really was quite. a fantastic experience. What is the experience of, I truly actually don't really even know what happens there. I had no idea either. I can make jokes. Yeah. But what happens there?

Essentially what it is is you, you walk down these stairs into this other world that you don't think exists in New York City. And there's five rooms that you can alternate between. There's an infrared sauna, a Russian sauna, a steam room, a cold room, and a schvitz.

Okay. And they all have varying degrees of temperature, depending on like which ones you go. to and you basically just alternate between the five of them and they give you different sensations as you exit one and enter another one. So you go from the Russian sauna, which is the really hot sauna, and then you go into the cold room, and so it's really hot and then really cold. Is there an order that you're given, like where, what you should go in to when?

No, there's really not many rules at all. That's more what I thought. Yeah. And then you go from the Russian sauna. Like I said, the Holland, there's also a cold. I asked them, when does the Russian do jerk you off? He said never. No, it's not that type of thing.

It has to be that type of thing. I'm telling you it's not. As a guy, I sound like I'm in a cult explaining this to people, but it's really, it was awesome, and I cannot wait to do it again, and I recommend it to anybody out there. Really? Yeah. I should leave here and just go to a Russian bath house. Yeah, and I won't give the location out on the podcast, but I'll give it to you when we're done here.

All right. I mean, I want you to, but I'm not going to go. It's also a good thing for just, like, bonding. Guys bonding. All right. I want to just leave that. Okay. I'm going to leave it.

How is, so the book. Yes. Welcome to Dunder Mifflin, the ultimate oral history of the office. You had the podcast. It was fantastic. Thank you. Just hearing you guys just, I love the way you did it where you set it up and then you're able to just hear conversation with just mics on.

That's my favorite type of podcasting. Right. So what are we getting in the book that we didn't get in the podcast? So basically an oral history of the office is sort of where it started, which was essentially, this was at least my sort of vision of it. Like, like Ken Burns this thing and try to figure out what happened

and why we are where we are. So it was a deal with Spotify. And essentially it was 12 episodes at 40 minutes. I'm not great at math, but that's like eight hours, right? So I do the first interview that I do and it's Rain Wilson. And it's over two hours.

Right. And then I sit down, I don't remember the order, but Jenna over two hours, Angela over two hours, Steve Corell, like three and a half hours, Greg Daniels, well over four hours. And I started doing this. So I ended up, I ended up talking to 44 people. We had well over 100 hours of recorded material. So I went, okay, so we're going to just use eight hours, much of which was like me narrating, interweaving everybody's stories, and we're just going to throw the rest of it away. So I was like, well, we've got to let people hear the interview. But what the book really is, is taking that original podcast, the story of what happened and how we got there and just expanding it. And then we went back and did more interviews, sort of went more in depth, which you can do on a book. And then went to the archives of NBC where we had thousands and thousands of hours. Or sorry, thousands and thousands of pictures.

Right. I noticed. Behind the scenes, pictures. And so we've got, I don't know, well over 100 that have never been seen anywhere before that we put in the book to give, you know, to, to, to, to, allow people to see that. And I was telling one of the other guys here, actually, that the NBC photographer, right? So the guy who's in charge of coming, you know,

Ricky Jervais is on set. Let's bring the on. And usually like one day a week. There would be a day he would come to take pictures. Well, he falls in love with Kate Flannery, who played Meredith on the show. They're still together. They're still partners.

so like very quickly into the run of the show we now have the guy who's taking pictures and started taking pictures on the tonight show with Johnny Carson and friends and cheers and Seinfeld and all these iconic shows like an amazing who also now has like become a part of our family and is going out to drinks with us and is hanging out with us at parties

because he's with Kate so like he went really behind the scene you know like got pictures of us like he because he knew us it wasn't just where he would just be like hey Brian just sit over there with Angela for a second and we would just oh okay Chris whatever you know as opposed to get out of my light or whatever you know like he was like a part of us

he was a buddy now he was a buddy yeah so yeah I think people are really going to enjoy it when I got the first copy which wasn't that long ago the words that I just kept saying was it's thick. So thick. It's like it's thick, right? And you can't, I don't know, can you, I just, but I, there's nothing else.

Because I was working on it basically by section, by chapter. And they added in the pictures. And even, I don't know, I just like wasn't paying attention to PDFs or whatever as I was going through it, pandemic. I wasn't, it wasn't like nobody sent me a printout. And I got it. I was like, oh, this is a real thing. Right.

Like this is, whoa, yeah. Oh, it's thick. Yeah. And, but the style is, so it's quotes, right? So you can read it in their voice as well for me, which it's not, you're not just telling us the story of the office. We're hearing it from the people that were in it. Right. So for me, it's a super interesting read.

I can't wait to do it. Like I said, I already know all the stories I feel like, but now I'm just going to reread it. And I'm super excited about it. All right, boys and girls, you guys are listening. What am I holding up right now? What is this? It looks like a Peter Millar quarter zip. It sure is.

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Golf game. Yeah. Where are you at? Last time we saw you, you were at Torrey Pines. Yes. You didn't recognize us. I didn't recognize you. Well, but in part, I didn't focus on you because all I saw was a camera.

And I had just had a bunch of, and I was like, oh, fuck. Right. We made it weird. No, you didn't make it weird, but I thought you were like, you know, from the local NBC affiliate. Local San Diego affiliate. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to go. hit balls or something, but yes, no. And we still have a challenge here

that we have not done. It's not forgotten. It has been a little bit busy. Which is fine because I had elbow surgery, so I haven't swung a club. Well, there you go. So it's been nice. Like I've been, we have a couple of things that we want to get done. Yes. You're at the top of the list. Okay. And I was like,

I hope he doesn't reach out to us in October or early November because I can't swim in a club. So now we're good. You're back? I'm back. Do you have you in a squad? I'm swinging slow, too, because of my elbow. No, I see, I was. I was. Am I supposed to have famous friends? Who's my squad?

You're famous now. Well, I mean, clearly. We want to do a four-man scramble. Is that right? Yeah, I mean, listen, it should be a scramble. It's a scramble. So you got to pick your four guys, your three partners. I told you, you guys have no chance.

Well, if you pick Bill Miclinson, we have no chance. But, like, pick people that are, like, obvious. Were you going to pick? You're a 22. Yeah, that's a good memory that you have. Yeah. Nine and a half at the internet never gives me. me that. They don't allow that to happen.

So you're seven? I'm a nine and a half. No, they want me to be a 20. Oh, I see it. I don't play well on camera. Freaky's not a fucking nine and a half. He's not a single digit handicap. Tell you what? He can't even make a putt. Doesn't bother him at all. No. The things that they say. Doesn't get to him in the slightest. Riggs is about like a three now. He got down to a one point nine. We were abandoned. It was nice. Then Bandon kicked the shit out of him. And then Lurch is around three as well. So yeah, I mean, there's a collection of good golfers.

You got some, okay. Yeah. I got down. As low, I think I hit the same point, I think I was 6.4, 6.5. Wow. This is the new system, this new handicap. You know, I shot 172 and it like it'll plunge it pretty. You know, you throw in a 78, 79 to 172 and you'll get down there. So totally. I was playing really well.

Now I haven't been playing as much. But obviously, yeah, I'm game anytime. That new system, we were talking about it in Bandon, and I didn't know. So they told me this when we were there that I said, it's not fair to play a course like Bandon Dunes in 35 mile an hour wind, shoot an 85, and then someone else on another course. Or even at Bandon without the wind shoots an 85, and we have relatively the same score. That's not fair to me. And they actually now take that into account, which I didn't realize. They'll take the gross of the scores that day.

That's right. Which is an incredible system. Yes. That it does. And how is it has been explained to me is you adjust faster. So it gets punitive if you throw in a couple of low scores. But it also, like if you start playing bad, it does sort of self-correct way quicker than the old system did. So I don't know.

I know. Here's the only thing that you definitely know about me is that I, play for money, so my number is my number. Right. Because no one's going to let me get away with it, not being my number. Right. So, yeah. Totally.

And you're consistent, which actually for me, so we have this thing called from the gallery. We have all our fans. They'll send in some questions or hypotheticals. And this guy, Sam, this made me laugh. He goes, is I'm good at golf, but not very consistent, a valid statement to make? Because being consistent is essential to golf. And I feel like that's said a lot. And I say that a lot.

And I'm now going to catch myself when I do say it because I don't know that you can be good at golf without being consistent. I think those go hand in hand. Yeah. I mean, the only, I mean, look, I think if you can hit a drive 320 yards, but fewer than 50% end up in the fairway, you could make that statement. You're not good at golf. You're not good at golf. Right. If you can hit it 320, but only 42% of the time you're on the fairway, then you're not good at golf.

You can hit the ball a long way, but you're not good at golf. The consistent thing, the only hedge I have on that is I do think that people have days. Right. Right. Like people have bad days. And that's the thing is because I am certainly guilty of this where I play with someone and they're like, oh, I'm a four. and you're like, yeah, you're not a four. And they were just, their tempo was off, spraying the ball,

which then affects everything from chipping and putt it. You know, you've just lost, you know, and certainly I've been there too. And then you go into the shame spiral because you're playing with someone that you don't know and you're playing like garbage. And now you've said you're a four. Oh, that's a ball. Oh, yeah. Last week I shot up, you know.

And then there's a lot like I swear. These are this is what I do. I know. Well, there's that feeling. And then there's also the feeling of, I'm going to wait for these guys to go off the green, and I'm going to hit this one, right? You're 275 yards out. You have a three wood in your hand.

I'm going to let those guys clear, and then you duff it. Oh, of course. It's the worst. That's what happens when you wait. Right, but it's that sense of like, I'm a fucking asshole. I'm not a four. I can't hit that green. Because he actually, Sam says, it's kind of like a basketball player saying he's good

at shooting threes. He's just not consistent. Which, that really registered with me. Where it's like, oh, yeah, like, when I'm at my gym, I can, I can, I can, make threes. I have the ability. I have the arc. I have all of the fundamentals to make a three, but I don't do it during the game. That's kind of my

golf game. You watch me at the range. I'm a good golfer, but I'm not consistent on the golf course. Yeah. No, I think that's true. Again, with the hedge, I think that's actually a really good point. With the hedge, I think that consistently has, is within the totality of your game, right? Because I think you, I think people

do play above their ability and they play below and if someone is playing really below you could call that inconsistent on that day you could call that inconsistent or you could just say the dude's having a bad day right is a good golfer i think unfortunately for us trend like our inconsistent days are really good days if that makes sense it's it's rare for us to have a good day right like if i go out there and i post a 78 everyone's like holy shit and it's like well something just happened it's the exception to the Right, right, right, right. Yeah, that probably doesn't mean you're a good golfer. Right. But then, definitely doesn't.

But then I keep going backwards. Like, I have the ability to be a good golfer. So that doesn't make me a good golfer in that sense. I don't know. It doesn't, right? Because you have to piece it all together. No. And I know we've talked about Phil a lot. And maybe I even said this on this, but this wasn't anything that he said to me personally. But his whole, you know, he talks about it's so difficult. to focus in the moment on every shot over four or five hours. And what he is looking for, and I think about this, because I know clearly, I don't achieve this, but like trying to get the highest percentage of focus throughout the round.

Yeah, mentally. Like that, yeah. It's a grind. That, yes, it is a grind. But finding that, I think that's a really good lesson. Do you find yourself, do you play multiple days in a row and you find yourself trying to kind of do what the pros do?

Like, have you ever played four days in a row of consistent golf and tried to really, like, match your game up to see if, like, the fatigue comes in, if you're, like, you mentally start draining? Yeah, so there's a few times a year where, um, that I play in events and truly I play in the events. I'm not even joking to challenge myself. Right. Like, just can I do it? So like Tahoe is one. Right? And usually, occasionally I'll get one day off in there, but I'm playing six days in a row.

Wow. Six or five or six in seven days. That's a golf event for you. Like, are you going to the range, like after a round? Are you trying to score? No, so I don't do that. Okay. No.

And I also have learned. I've tried it all, first of all. But I've also learned I don't want to be on the first T or in the first fairway not having hit a shot yet because I just feel like just that feel of it but I don't I don't

I don't pound balls on the range. In fact I yeah. Never not even like local country club going out there for a round you don't hit a couple just to loosen up. No, I'll hit a couple. Oh so you don't pay right right. But I like you know I used to like at that event or others, like I would show up an hour and a half ahead and putt and then

eat a little something. You're right. Go to the range and do and all that. And now I'm like, no, I just need to do what I do all the time, which is show up, hit a few balls, see how fast the greens are and go. Because otherwise, I'm, yeah, then my brain starts kicking in or whatever. But I enjoy that. There's another event, which we may have talked about before, that I started last year.

It was kind of weird. I understand because of the pandemic, but it's this LPGA event. It's like their tournament of champions. So it's this weird event where it's celebrities and then LPGA champions from the last couple of years. So they had to have won a tournament to be eligible. Okay. And then they invite some of us. And we're not teams.

It's not like pebble. We're just literally playing alongside, which is weird. Yeah, that's true. But that experience, you know, certainly not wanting to get in their way. They're playing for money. But also I think that, well, at least I try to bring a more relaxed environment to them. And then just watching them play and their tempo.

That's really fun. But that's, again, that's four days of competition. Do you find that you play better in that environment because they're so clearly focused on what they're trying to do? The last couple of years, I've played way better for me. I played way better in Tahoe. And I feel like now, I mean, it's only been whatever 14 years or something. Now I feel I'll probably go out and just tank next year. But I feel like I've kind of figured it out for me.

And the good thing for me is I truly, I care too much about it. Yeah. Like I really care. And so oddly that I find that I have achieved greater folks. there than I do have most of the time. Like grind, like up and downs, you know, bad situation, just playing more focused golf. Because I'm going to hit bad shots. I'm going to hit a lot of bad shots.

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Slow play, definitely. Do you let people know when they're being slow? Yes. Really? Oh, yeah. We need more of that. We do. I know.

Because most people are just like, all right, we'll just wait out. Well, I think a lot of us are so like we don't try and have confrontations, so you're making noises or especially if it's the group ahead of you or the group behind you. I don't really do that. But if it's in my group, you definitely say, I'd definitely say something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I guess I'm a tattletail and I will call Pro Shop.

Really? Oh, yeah. You're no bullshit? Oh, no, no, no. Holy shit. No, no, no. Yeah, no. It's got to be.

You're like the moral compass of, like, Riggs. We have a guy, well, you know Riggs. Riggs called the pro shop on people that he didn't think were supposed to be on Piner's. Turns out that he was correct. They snuck on. They were driving. He noticed that these two hooligans drove a cart out there. And he's like, I don't know what they're up to.

He called the clubhouse on him and got them kicked off the golf course. Now, for me, I thought that was kind of crazy because number one, it's a public golf course. And number two, like, who does rigs thinks he is to kick people off piner? Right. So we called him the moral compass of piner's. And then piner's gave him a fucking compass. Compass. Compass that says the moral compass of piner's on it.

Really? Yes. That is amazing. Turns out they fucking snuck on. I love that. Now, these are two guys that they messaged us and they said they played. They had 18 holes on Piner's number four. And then they're like, you know what?

We still have the cart. Like, let's go out to number two, which like carts are not supposed to go out on number two. So, like, I guess, like, that's why he saw that. And it really sparked something. But that kind of reminded me of that. Interesting. Yeah. I mean, I, I, if I'm a guest somewhere or somewhere, I don't know.

Like, I, in this, I may have told you this because I think it was the time before I, I saw you guys at Tori, I walked off. I think the par three, the par three, I think it's like 12 or 13. Yeah. I was over the four hour mark. By 13. Yeah, and I was like, no, this is not worth it to me.

I just don't like it. And it's crazy because I live like five minutes from there. Right. And I just don't, I don't ever play there. And I, part of that is I wouldn't call a pro shop there. I would just, that's why I just, left, but it's like, you know, if you're not, if you, and I'm going to screw up the numbers a little bit, but it's basically like if you live in San Diego, you can play Torrey Pines, North or South

for like 45, 50 bucks. Right. You know, it's a public course. And if you don't, then it's like, I don't know, 350. Super price. So what happens is, is that you, you know, fly in from. Topeka, Kansas, and you want to take pictures at the cliffs, and I've paid my money, I'm going to do that.

Right. But that's, you know. You're out there for six hours. So then you're out there for six hours, and I, yeah, I don't. All bucketless courses seem to be. So Beth Page is another one where if you live in New York, it's $75, but if you live outside in New York, it's $300. How long does it take to play?

Oh, my God, six hours. Yeah. And on an August hot, sunny day in Bethpage, Long Island, it is a fucking grind. I mean, I've played, I've, I've, I've, I've, grew up playing that course. So I, my memories of playing that course is with a wet rag around my neck and sunburn

beating off my face and just being out there being like, I guess this is what golf is. Like I guess golf is six and a half hours. And then I am lucky enough to have this job where I started playing my first country clubs ever on this show. Right. And finally getting caddies and seeing. And now it's like I can't believe this is the other side of the world where you just show up.

You play three hours. Three hours is like a long round. I mean, you can play in 245, no problem if you're by yourself. Yeah. And that's just how golf is supposed to be. It's just never going to get to that point with public golf. But man, it's, it is eye-opening when you see the other side. Yeah.

Just how much better you play to and you can get into a rhythm and your consistency goes up and you just like appreciate the game more as opposed to like step up to a T-box. I mean, we used to invent games to play on the T-box as we were waiting so long, trying to hit the, hit the ball markers with the driver. It's insane. Yeah. So anything else, any other ones that stick out other than slow play? Pet peeves on, well, not fixing your ballmark.

I mean, that's stupid to not do that. Is there anything else that I... Drives you crazy. That drives me crazy. It puts you in a fit of rage. Anything that your friend does that you don't want to maybe name their name? Hit of rage. No, because they listen and they'll know that I'm talking about him or her.

Um, do, uh, I don't think, I don't think so. I mean, I, the slow play thing is, I mean, it's, that's, that's, that for me is the biggest one. Like, I have a buddy who, my buddy Kyle, I've talked about him. He, he, he grabs his bag as I start my bed. Like, he does, he stays silent for the entire pre-swing routine. And then as I start my swing, I hear him grab his bag and he starts to walk. And it's like, well, now you just waited, let's say a full minute of, like, he does, he stay a full minute of, like, he does, he start my swing. And it's, like, he does. And it. And it's like, he does. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it. And it, he. And it, he. And it, he me to get like I put my ball on the ground it's dead crying and then I always hear him and I see him do it for other people I'm like why can't you just wait another second it's my biggest pet thief right if anything start grabbing it when you're doing the pre-shot routine because then I'll be used to it because then you won't have during the back swing it's crazy I have I have a friend who he he will know that everyone will know that I'm talking about him but he has uh this is not is not like a pet peeve but he it's about that he now has started to Hedecki and has the pause.

And even though he does it all the time, you know, it's like everyone's teed off and he's teeing off. And it's that like, like, and he goes like this. And then you think, okay, I'm now going to walk as soon as he's done. And you start, your body starts to get in motion and then you realize he hasn't swung yet. And so it becomes this slow, like, I don't want to pick up my bag or like take a step into his thing while he's doing it. But he just, I, yeah, I just forget. It just comes up.

And then it's like, oh, shit. And this is the thing he started doing recently? Yeah, I mean, he experiments it. He experiments with it. He, yeah, he talks about just, it helps him to get square of the ball. And, I mean, it's incredibly smart in a lot of ways. I don't think I can do it. But because when my, especially my driver goes wonky, it's all about that transition at the top.

Yep. Like, it's too fast. And so now my body tries to, you know, compensate for. that, you know, a problem. So in a way, I get it. And then you'll kind of go away from it. And if he starts feeling like he's losing his swing, he'll go back. He just keeps he guessing on it.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, no, no, no. So sorry. He probably, in general, is either doing it or he's not doing it. Got it. But they're not always the same length of time. Right?

So even when he's in that rhythm where he's pausing, this time, oh, he's pausing a little bit longer this time. I'll tell you what, Kyle would be a nightmare in that situation. because he wouldn't know when to grab it because now I've I've told him about this he tries to be conscious of when to pick up the bag right he'd be thrown off um you're on the PGA tour this is a hypothetical you win the grand slam yeah where are you this is a hypothetical you don't tell me this is a hypothetical you have a chance Brian I have faith in you I have faith in you you're gonna win the grand slam okay this is going to be in the future okay Brian wins the grand slam where are you winning them what's

your ultimate what's your ultimate for I mean obviously Augustine National is is Augustine So, right. I mean, it's, I mean, I don't know. Is this, can you cliche it? I guess you can. Yeah. So I would go Pebble. I would go Augusta.

I would go Pebble. But you're, maybe you would say Beth Page or something, but Pebble, I would say St. Andrews. Yeah. And then I feel like PGA is, I don't know, maybe wonkier. So maybe I are like. Maybe I would say something like Kiowa. You know, that was the one I was just going to say. Just because it's such a grind.

Kind of, yeah, hard grind. Like when Phil wanted it was like, how the hell did he just do that? You know what I mean? How did he even survive? We were out there. We were out there. We were out there or no. I wasn't out there, no.

But I had played with him the week before. How often do you guys that, right? How often do you play with Phil? Not. No, I don't. Just a couple, a few times. How do you look the week before? I put money down.

You did. I did. And I never have before. It's not a thing I bet. I don't bet golf. I don't bet golf. I don't bet everything else, but I don't really bet golf. I bet on the course, but I don't do the tournament bet.

He played, it's like weird to talk about. I mean, he knows how he played. I got invited to, this is the first time I played with him. He, there was a U.S. Open qualifier that was happening at, It's called the Grand Del Mar down in San Diego. And I was playing with guys, not him, but two other guys who were attempting to qualify and him. He was coming out. He knew one of the guys and, or I mean, he knew the other guys too.

And they were like, okay, we're going to play from the tips because we're a qualifier. And immediately I'm like, oh, fuck. And then there's like, there's. like the tips of the tips at this place. And one of the guys knew what the setup was going to be for the tournament that was happening two days later. And they were like, yeah, so on the tournament on Thursday, we're going to be up there. And I'm like, why aren't we playing at least the teams that you're going to be playing? Like, why are we extending this any further than it needs to be?

And he, I've had the opportunity to play a lot with professional golfers. And he just, I mean, he just was un- believable. And he was like calling his shots as well. He had that, that two wood. He was like, I really think in the wind, I can use this. This is going to, you know, can get me the distance that I need, but keep it kind of low. And was just calling his shots like that. And I went, I've seen this is beyond. Right. Yeah, I put money down. That's so interesting because we were at Qua, like, like Frankie said, and we watched Phil grind on the range for maybe three hours. And, and we took that as don't put money on him.

We were like, he's trying to figure something out. He looks a little lost. And then he wins the whole thing. And now you look back on it hindsight, you're like, maybe he was just like, I'm hitting it so well. I'm just going to stay out here and keep hitting. I was confused as was it I'm lost type of like body language?

Or was it I'm going to work so hard because I know I have my game type of body language. We figured out it was the latter. But I don't know. At the time, I remember saying to Trent, this guy has no chance. Because he's just by himself. We were watching Brooks Kepka, Jordan, Spee, all right in front of us, Justin Thomas.

And then Phil was in the corner. He was on the end of the range. He was on the end of the range. So that's Phil Mickelson by himself at the range right now. Can you believe that? Isn't that sad? I remember saying? Like, no one's even watching him.

You got fucking won. It's crazy. So now that we know, he had to have been like, I have something this week. Let's dial it. He's like, let me just make sure I actually have it. Right. Trying out two woods against the win, all the low-flighted shots.

Yeah. Yeah, and by the way, I don't, this was, so this was, my recollection, and maybe I'm off by a day or two, but was like, this was like in the week and he was traveling down like the Saturday or Sunday or Sunday for to be down there the week. So, yeah, I mean, you know, it was probably seven, eight days before they left, but, or, you know, that he started playing. But, yeah, no, I'd never say, I'd played one. other round at Scottsdale National with the PXG thing. I know you guys, I'd do some work with them. And I'd played with Lydia Coe at this thing at Scottsdale National. It was the only other round that was like this where we were about nine holes in.

And this guy that we were playing with just kind of comes over to me and just goes, I think she's going to shoot 59. No way. Oh, my God. And I was like, what? She ended up kind of taking a, because, you know, it was a, it was a best ball thing or something. She took sort of an unnecessary bogey compared to every other shot she hit, but I still think shot like 62 or something. And, you know, and that was the same thing where just the both rounds, the of those two rounds,

that was just so incredibly incredible was the distance control, just how close and whatever kind of shot they were trying to hit, that it was just all right around it, which is so impressive. It's another level. It really is. And we've seen it with Kisner, and the guy is talking to you about the shot.

He tells you exactly what he's going to do, and they do it. And it's like they have this control over the ball and their club speed. the thing that always drives me crazy is when kids will be like, oh, I'm going to take it back another quarter inch, I think. How are you that consistent that you know exactly where your takeback is, that you can move it another quarter inch up? And that's going to make a difference. So it is fun to watch it up close, but it's also, it's depressing. It's humbling.

It is. It's humbling. So I know we've got to get you going here. Welcome to Dunder Mifflin, the ultimate oral history of the office. It's out now, right? Out now today. Anywhere you can buy books. Available wherever. I saw that.

I don't know what that means. I don't even. Everywhere. That's where. Yeah. I guess. I think that means like Barnes and Noble or Target. There's not that many bookstores left.

I don't know. Well, Amazon is a big one, obviously. Yeah. Well, thank you very much. Okay. But the next time I see you guys, it's going to be on a golf course. We're going to be playing. Yes.

I'm not hiding from you. We're doing this. Let's just make it happen. It's as simple as just making it happen. Let's make it happen. Listen, how about Do you guys go to Scottsdale for the thing? Riggs lives in Scottsdale.

Oh, for waste management? When is that? That's usually Super Bowl Week. It's Super Bowl weekend. So I'm hopefully not going to be in Scottsdale this year for that because I'm hoping. We haven't gone in the last couple of years. You haven't. We have not.

What do you hope for? We'll find a time. What are you hoping for? I'm hoping for the Packers to be in the Super Bowl is what I'm hoping for. I hope to be at the Super Bowl. You think that's going to happen? I actually do. Okay.

Even with Jones going down and Dylan filling in? Dylan looked great. He looked great. I have my fans of the team. That guy can fucking run, man. He really can. He looked great. Yeah.

And he's, and he looked great in the playoffs last year, too. Yeah. Yeah. Just got to get the Aaron Rogers. I mean, it's been quite a month. It's been a big month. Yeah, it has been a big month. Hey, thanks, thanks, Brian, as always.

Thank you. Thank you, guys. Yeah, we'll do this soon. Cheers. All right. All right, thanks.