Fore Play - British Open Recap

Episode Date: July 23, 2023

Brian Harman runs away with the 151st Open Championship. Do we feel bad rooting for a closer tournament? Are self-righteous golf tweeters the worst? Will Rory ever win another major? Will JT make the ...Ryder Cup team? We also get hyped up for our Korn Ferry Tour broadcast coming up this week, Messi delivering in his first game in Miami, and new movies.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, Rick! What's that my brother? I got a buddy who struggles with that shot a lot. His name's Frankie Borrelli. So the guys actually gave him a nickname of Butter Knives because he always knifes it across the green. Broads 100.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Now you've got to break 90s. We appreciate what you guys do for golf. It's been really cool. Thank you. You're making it cool. I was like, hey, Phil, you only fucking $29.99. And he grabs 100. He's like, yeah, I won 90,000 a lease yesterday.
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Starting point is 00:00:52 EVs for everyone everywhere. We love Chevrolet. All right, British Open Recap. A lot to actually get to, despite the fact that it wasn't the most, speaking of electric, electric finish of all time. Brian Harmon wins the British Open. He has a one since 2017.
Starting point is 00:01:08 He's 114th in driving distance. He's not the most even charismatic in the interviews. He refused to give up his putting secret. Last night, his family's just in Rochester. Talk about his wife went on like a six-mile walk this morning instead of really watching him for the first half of the day, made everything. He had all the bounce back stats.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I think four birdies after. six of the bogeys that he made. So just insanely resilient. Never really hit it offline. He only hit it in two bunkers the entire week, which we saw bunkers are basically a one-stroke penalty out there. So just wildly impressive for Brian Harmon in those conditions. You know, my biggest takeaway from that is that this really proves that Tiger Woods could win another major. Like if Brian Harmon can win a major championship, Tiger Woods can win a major. That's kind of was my takeaway on the back nine. We talk all the time. These guys are too good now. They hit it. too far. There's no way Tiger could keep up.
Starting point is 00:02:02 If Brian Harmon can win a major championship, Tiger Woods can win a major championship. That's my biggest thing. Tiger Woods's leg would have fallen off in that, in that rain. There's no chance he would have finished around today. He's got surgery. We haven't seen it post surgery yet. Not the new one, but I, but yeah. I think there's two things can be true, right? Like, that was an extremely impressive performance by Brian Harmon. It was also a complete and total dud of a major championship. That's not a knock on Brian Harmon. That's just acknowledging the facts. We came in with all these storylines, right? Scott, he's playing at a historic level.
Starting point is 00:02:32 Rory's won last week. He comes back to the place where he's won the open before. You've got Tommy Fleetwood after two rounds. He's right up there at home. And I think the closest it got was two shots on Saturday morning. I think the closest it got today was three. So for Harmon to sleep on the lead two nights in a row and come out and play like he did is extremely impressive. It was also there was no juice at all.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Just no juice. And again, we talked about this with Wyndham Clark. That's every golfer's dream. but I can't remember a major this boring to watch since, you know, nothing really comes to mind. You know, he's probably the most unlikely in terms of like pre-tournament odds major winners since Phil. But Phil was super electric because it's Phil Mickelson. I mean, maybe like Ustazen when he won by seven. I mean, to have a guy who isn't one of the best players in the world, but also not a complete nobody, right?
Starting point is 00:03:24 Like Brian Harmon's won twice on tour. he's what 30th in the world he's probably made $25 million so it's not like this crazy out of nowhere winner it's just one of these guys you'd call kind of a rank and file or better than average pga tour player dominating for the weekend that is NBC's worst nightmare i mean you said it's no knock on brian harmon it's absolutely a knock on brian harmon like there's a reason why he's brian harmon and not rory mackerel i mean people are allowed to not be perfect and the most likable and the most charismatic and he just falls into the category of just a boring golfer we have these people on tour that are just boring golfers. He hits his shot. He gets under his umbrella. He bites
Starting point is 00:04:00 off his glove and then he just walks the fairway and he just does it again. There's nothing exciting about it. He just pinpointed his location and he hits the middle of the green and he makes putts from all over the place with his massive putter. And sure, there's all the jokes about his height. I've obviously been like, you know, one of the people that have been talking about it. But that just all adds to it. You're like, Brian Harmon is just like a guy. You look at him and you're like, who the hell is this guy? How is it happening? And unfortunately for him, that, that side of the storyline doesn't even make it exciting. For some people, it's like, look at this, like, little guy going up against all the
Starting point is 00:04:32 giants and the announcers this week, really, where I don't know if it was just in the back of their head and they were just doing it by accident, but some of the wording they were using against Brian Harmon was fucking flat out mean. I mean, on the 17th hole, he's like, he had to fight up all of these giants, like Victor Hovland and John, I mean, you're talking about guys that were like 510, 511. It was insane. But, you know, for some reason, Brian Harmon. just doesn't carry that like story with him like you'd think it would have been that like dude turn on
Starting point is 00:05:02 NBC this like random little guy is about to win the open in the rain like in fucking Liverpool this is the craziest story ever but for some reason like what you were saying Dan like it's just like yeah he's just like been around and we're just he's just like a boring pGA tour golfer it's just kind of like uh i don't know there there's no story attached to him there's nothing that i can grab onto he's a lefty which I love. Shout out to the lefties. You know, a lefty winning a major is fucking awesome. Only the fourth?
Starting point is 00:05:28 Is that only the fourth of all time? Fourth lefty of all time. Mike Weir, for Nicholson, Bubba Watson, and then Brian Harmon. That's pretty awesome. Wait, wait. So,
Starting point is 00:05:36 so Mike Weir was the first lefty to ever win a major in 2003. I believe he was the first of all time. Were people just not lefties? No, they're still like, are there more lefties now? Taylor made shoots and it's hard for Frankie
Starting point is 00:05:49 to get lefty club. Yeah, and I'll always get the explanation like, SEO big dude like if you saw the like the percentages of lefties that by clubs it's it's a number you wouldn't even believe is true like it might be like six I don't know what the number might be like he sneaky
Starting point is 00:06:03 a righty bowler I was surprised to see a righty bowler I'm right handed in a lot of things I think Brian Harmon might be also the way he puts the ball down was with his right hand and I was thinking that might be his down in hand some of the things that Paul Asinger said were disrespectful to Brian Harmon he said he said he's the kind of guy who just wants to splash around
Starting point is 00:06:21 in the puddles what is that so he's just a child he just likes to jump in the way he wears his hat it's got a little bit of like an angle to it almost like you watch in the sandlot like you know he's just like in the sandlot crew Brian Harmon listen aside from all the jokes that you can make and obviously I am like the most self-deprecating person of all time so I guess I can feel that I can make jokes about other people because I make him about myself but listen you can't take anything away from this guy and how fucking nails he was. He dominated the best golfers in the world on a golf course that was giving
Starting point is 00:06:55 people, I mean, guys were making tens on the 18th hole. Tommy Fleetwood made us fucking triple bogey on 17. It's just like, horrific bad beat in the betting world there, by the way. Had Tommy top 10. He makes a triple on 17 to finish T10 with like four other people. So it'll be a dead heat thing where we'll basically win no money now. So just a horrific bad beat there is two to one for him to finish top 10. Just you know, it's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. So it's amazing in its own right.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's just not exciting. That's really the takeaway from me. And anyone that tries to fight on the other side of that's just lying. You're just being like a Twitter warrior that wants to like stand up for every single person in the world and act like everything's the biggest thing of all time. It was just a boring open. It's always so shocking to me when people's response to us rooting for the leaderboard who simply get tighter is that we're like anti-American because Brian Harmon was over there representing America in England
Starting point is 00:07:47 in this tough weather. against a bunch of Europeans. It's like, no, dude, I'm not even rooting against Brian Harmon. It's just rooting for excitement. Even if Brian Harmon, even if you told me this morning, Brian Harmon is guaranteed to win, but it will come down to a put on 18. I would have taken that. It's like you want when he's standing on that 17th hole where Maddie Fitzpatrick and Tommy Fleetwood, God fucking damn it with a top 10 in the line, make triple bogey, if that was looming that there was a chance, this is a big moment where you lean up to the edge on the edge of your fucking seat,
Starting point is 00:08:20 couch, whatever, and you get excited for a shot because something could happen here and you just get robbed of that. I honestly think the golf gods have been making us pay since the 2019 Masters for that.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That was like the trade-off that we made. We have not had a killer, insanely dramatic finish to a major, maybe the PGA at Harding Park. Fitz at Brookline. Fits at Brookline was pretty sweet for sure, but even then he kind of like had the lead, I guess the last six or seven holes.
Starting point is 00:08:49 and he did hit the shot in 18 out of that bunker. And like, and you came down to the Zalotaurus putt. So you've had a couple for sure that were like, it came down to a put. But for the most part, we talked about it at the Masters. Like we haven't had a really dramatic finish at the Masters. Like, Scotty Schaeffer was able to like four putt the green last year.
Starting point is 00:09:06 John Rom came down and was able to basically not even reach the fairway on the 72nd hole and it didn't really matter. So we just had a lot of kind of duds at the end. And it's, it's frustrating because it's close. Like we were close. time. If Brian Harmon was just four or five shots worse, this would have been an insane back nine. You had Roar, you had Rom, you had all these guys, Substraka made a run. Jason Day all a sudden is back and made a run. You had Max Homa got his first top 10 finish ever in a major.
Starting point is 00:09:34 So it's like you had a bunch of names right there. You would have had 12 guys between seven under and four under with five of them in the top 10 in the world coming down the stretch at this iconic place that's, you know, has Tiger and Rory of one there. And instead, you just had it ripped away from you. So yes, that combined with the fact that Hoy Lake is probably the flattest course that they play, so it's not aesthetically pleasing on TV. The holes in general kind of blend together with the exception of a few of them where they talk about the internal OB. They've got the 17th hole, which they had to harp on a lot because, again, the holes,
Starting point is 00:10:09 they don't really stick out. It's all about the fairway pop bunkers, which all look pretty much the same, but they're incredibly punishing. So like all that combined with Brian Harmon, it just for the last major, of the year when you're looking for all this excitement you're looking is Rory going to break through is Tommy going to be the hometown hero instead none of it just happened this guy that honestly they talk about how this changes like this will
Starting point is 00:10:29 change his life I don't think this will change Brian Armour's life I think like tomorrow morning that fucking guy's going to wake up he's going to hit a golf shot he's going to take his glove off with his teeth he's going to put it under his umbrella he's going to go back home and like kill some animals yeah kill shit and like hang out with his buddies and have beers which is great that's cool for him he seems like a fucking super nice guy but if you're looking for
Starting point is 00:10:49 and showman, right? Like, Connor McGregor's Connor McGregor because he's a fucking showman. He gets it. He like drums it all up. And there's an entertainment value to that that he understands and he works to deliver towards. We talked about this with Wyndham Clark when Wyndham Clark won.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We talked about this about Patrick Cantley whenever he wins. I'm like, there are guys that are intentionally don't give a flying fuck. They just want to play the best golf that they can. And that equals boring golf and that gets wins and money. And that's great for them and trophies. And then they go hunt and kill shit and do whatever they do back home. That's Brian Harmon to a T.
Starting point is 00:11:18 And that's not exciting for us. For him, it's fucking great. Again, I'm sure he's a nice guy. I'm sure we'll get him on the podcast and talk about this. And we'll all be like, oh, I can't believe he's rooting against Brian Harmon. He's such a nice guy. But at the end of the day, it's like, dude, give me fucking TV. Give me entertainment.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Give me like the golf world, the sports world has to buzz about what's going on in the British Open. And instead, it's like, dude, if you're an average sports fan, I'm sure you turned on some baseball game or something a couple hours into this. Because what the fuck would you be watching for? And that just overall, it kind of stinks. from an entertainment value. Chevrolet is as trusted a brand as you've ever heard of. Combine that with innovation and scale. And you've really got just a delightful thing. Chevrolet has been trusted with transportation needs for the last 100 years. Imagine being in business for 100 years.
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Starting point is 00:13:37 So go learn more at Chevy.com slash electric. Fucking hate golf fans on Twitter, man. People that are like these gatekeepers of like, this guy wrote, couldn't just say congrats, had to say you're not a fan. Because I wrote, I'm obviously not the biggest fan of Brian Harmon, meaning like who like are there die hard Brian Harmon fans out there I mean like show me
Starting point is 00:14:03 who's in like the Harmon squad like I just don't like he's just like a nobody nothing to me like whatever he's just like we just talked about it and the oh Frankie cut out again this happened to him last time yeah this happened we did the Lurt show
Starting point is 00:14:16 is great he just goes completely silence tough scene I'm with you Frankie I'm not a big fan of all the the absolute lunatics that are in the golf Twitter world too and it's it's what's what's infuriating about the golf Twitter world is like
Starting point is 00:14:29 it's like you're not allowed to joke around. It's like you have to take every element of the game of golf insanely seriously and it's like do you not realize that even playing golf with your friends 90% of the excitement and fun of it is joking around. The whole life's supposed to be about joking around. So now
Starting point is 00:14:45 you can't have a single tweet, take whatever where you're like you're clearly being sarcastic and trying to make light of the situation which the situation is for 99% of people watching was all the same where it was like, do we need some gorse bush shots from brian harmon here we need a couple lip outs we need them to miss a seven footer we need them to go from 13 under to fucking nine under so all of a sudden this
Starting point is 00:15:07 turns into a golf tournament everybody was feeling that same thing except for one percent of hardos even those fucking guys i guarantee you those people tweeting that feel the same exact way they're sitting there being like yeah it'd be cool if this is a lot more exciting they're not sitting there being like oh great golf right harman that's so impressive like what a fucking loser you would be to be doing No one is doing that. No, and I'm back. Every time I speak with my hands with this new mic, I just knocked the fucking wire out, so I have to be less Italian, I guess.
Starting point is 00:15:35 But the thing that's wrong with golf is that you're supposed to love every single guy that wins. That's fucking ridiculous. There's no other sport. It's the stupidest thing of all time. The fact that it's the only sport where you're not allowed to root against somebody is preposterous. It's everything that's wrong with golf. And I hate it. I hate you.
Starting point is 00:15:53 If you are on that side, I hate you with every single burning passion of my body. if you don't think that I'm allowed to say, I hope this guy misses this putt because I want someone else to win. Or I'm not the biggest fan of this guy. I'd rather see a close tournament. Or I want to see some carnage. I don't really care who wins. I just want to see some fun shots towards the answer.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Why is that not allowed? Why does it have to be like everybody that wins is the greatest person ever? And we're all going to be waving our little hats and our panties in the fucking air because Brian Harmon won the fucking open. That's not the way sports works. Every other sport, you're like devastated when your team loses and you hate the other team and you want them to like fucking die. But golf is like champion.
Starting point is 00:16:27 offer of the year, no matter who it is. I don't care. I don't care where you're from. I don't care what you do. I have to be a fan of you. And if I say it on Twitter, I'm an asshole. It's like, what are you talking about? This is sports. I'm a little happy. I was a little happy that Brian Harmon won in such non-dramatic fashion because like we talked about earlier, if Rory won this, if Fleetwood won this and I wasn't there, I might have jumped off the George Washington Bridge. So a great one for me to miss. Someone who is not a fan of Brian Harmon, and I wanted to read you guys this. I put it in my 18 parting thoughts, which run barcelosports.com is you and Murray of The Guardian.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Let me read you this passage that he wrote about Brian Harmon and his hunting habits. He goes, in one of the more bizarre major press conferences departures of recent times, the 36-year-old explained his penchant for killing animals. He missed the cut at the masters and immediately slaughtered a pig and a turkey. I've been a hunter my entire life, he posted.
Starting point is 00:17:17 I enjoy the strategy of it. We eat a lot of wild meat at my house, so I enjoy butchering, and I do a lot of hunting. Champions traditionally drink from the claret jug. One is left to ponder what on earth Harmon may do with the famous trophy. I think that guy is suggesting that he's going to go like kill an elk and drink blood out of the claret jug. Which for the record, we are carnivores. Like we kill and eat animals.
Starting point is 00:17:41 That's actually how we survived for tens of thousands of years. So there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. But for him to be like taking stance, I do like that people are out there, you know, look, the main, the main times. when I actually found myself rooting hard for Brian Harmon was when they would invoke some of the negative shit that people were yelling at him and that people were being like mean to him from the gallery. That kind of galvanized me a little bit to be like, all right, he's out there sort of like by himself with his caddy. People were being mean to him from the gallery because they want Tommy, they want Rory. That was like the one time where I was kind of like, all right, Brian Harmon,
Starting point is 00:18:16 pretty badass. And we respect that we get it. Galsons insanely hard to do it in the wind at times and the rain at times. And it's insanely impressive. It's just fucking bull. That's the end of the day, it's fucking boring. I liked his, um, on 18 after he hit the bunker shot, he like let out like a let's go, which just showed us that he was definitely thinking about the possibility of just like blading one into the face of the bunker. Like in his mind, in his mind, that tournament was not over until he got out of that bunker on the 18th hole.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So he hit it to like 18th to like eight feet. And then he was like, yeah, we got it. He finally got it. So he showed some emotion there at the end. And I'm sure he is, look, when you are a small, a smaller guy, and I will say I sent Frankie this video that made the rounds of him getting out of a truck, which was just a hilarious, hilarious video. When you're that size and you're playing against, you know, a game that's increasingly
Starting point is 00:19:05 dominated by really big guys. We saw that 6-8. College kid was leading out for the first round. There's more of those kids coming up. By the way, by the way, they're about to take that photo. We're missing that, I think. They're about to take that low am and the open champion. So it's going to be Crystal Lampreck and Brian Harmon standing next to each other.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They're going to look like Yao Ming and fucking Lee Trevino. that classic photo that doesn't look real. It's not just that he's like short. He has like such narrow shoulders. He's a very small guy. What I was saying was that you're going to have a little bit of that fuck everybody mentality. You have to.
Starting point is 00:19:36 If you're that size, he's had 100 and whatever in driving distance. He doesn't hit it far. He's been told all his life probably that, you know, you don't hit it far enough to really be one of the best players in the world. So I definitely think he leaned into that angle of like they're all rooting against me. Everyone online is running against me.
Starting point is 00:19:49 They asked him when he said, what are you going to do, you know, tomorrow before the round? He said, I'm not going to look at my phone. He knows that everyone was rooting for literally everybody else in the gallery, let him know that. So I definitely think that lit the fire under him for sure. So also his twitchy, his twitchy waggles are out of control. But like, I started to respect them.
Starting point is 00:20:08 Like at some point, he would waggle so much and so feverishly that I actually wanted him to keep doing it. In the beginning, I'm like, there's no way. There's absolutely no way he's going to do this all day. And he's just been doing that his whole life, which I guess, like I said, I'm not the biggest Brian Harmon fan. I just don't watch him every single day. He really, I cannot believe he keeps to that system every single swing. And you know what he does too? He actually looks.
Starting point is 00:20:33 So this was when I did fixing Frankie, a lot of the things that they were teaching me was to find a little spot right in front of the ball. And you can see that he looks at that a lot. He'll look at a spot right in front of the ball on an iron swing. So you're 180 yards out. You're looking at your target eight inches in front of the ball, which is actually a really, really good tool to use. because you're just minimizing everything,
Starting point is 00:20:54 and you're bringing it closer to you. Yeah, I love that shit. Yeah, the waggles, they started doing the waggle counter. Like, you know that they're reaching for something when they're doing the waggle counter. The first time they did the waggle counter. It didn't work. It just stayed at zero, which was where it was.
Starting point is 00:21:08 So then you had Aisiger, like just counting the waggles. And then you have, like, we're going to be doing, and we're going to talk a lot about the Env5 invitation presented by old National Bank, cornfairy tour broadcast this next week. So we'll be doing our own broadcast. But you can tell then they were trying to time it, where they cut to him before he hits the shot,
Starting point is 00:21:25 not to capture all the waggles, but also not to miss the shot. So maybe like five or six waggles in, they would cut to him and hope that he only had like one or two more to hits. You don't know how many you're going to get when they would cut to him. But that's also look. Like that's his routine. That's what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:21:40 He's not going to be out there being like, I should waggle less. He's just trying to fucking hit good golf shots. And we all, right, like everybody does shit over a shot that you probably don't even really realize. And that just happened to be his. The internet was obsessed with it, which you're going to get out of a guy like that
Starting point is 00:21:51 because there's not that much else to be excited about. Rider Cup. I think this guy's got to be, I mean, I know points and all that. Hopefully now he's just in, but like even without that, he is once, when they do the Rider Cup in Europe, which we haven't won in like 30 years, he is actually the key kind of guy that you want over there because they're going to set it up.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Like when they did it at LaGoff National in Paris, they set it up so bad for Americans and so good for Europeans. You need to hit it straight. And that's pretty much all that matters. if you hit it sideways at all, you're going to be completely fucked. And Brian Harmon, even though he's 114th a distance, hitting it straight, making putts, he's like a quintessential Rider Cup in Europe kind of guy. Yeah, and he's going to be on the team.
Starting point is 00:22:32 You can't not have the winner of the most recent major championship in Europe on the team. The U.S. Rider Cup pictures all of a sudden a little bit murky. Like the two guys who were up there all week, the Americans, were Brian Harmon and Cameron Young. And coming into the week, neither of them were in the top 12. Meanwhile, on the European side, you had Rom, Rory, Victor Hovlin, Tommy Fleetwood, Sepsraka, were all right in the mix all week. So all of a sudden, you know, the team picture, it's looking a lot more even than it did. So, you know, I've been talking about this.
Starting point is 00:23:04 If there's, in my opinion, there's kind of nine locks right now, you got Scotty, Wyndham, Clark, Brooks, Cantlay, Shafley, Homa, Speeth, and Fowler. So you've got three spots open for the following players. Colin Morikawa, Justin Thomas, Tony Fidow, Keegan Bradley, Cameron Young, Sam Burns, and Dustin Johnson. So three of those guys are not going to make the team. And the Justin Thomas question is fascinating because there is no sane person on the planet who can argue that he deserves it with his play in recent years.
Starting point is 00:23:32 There are obviously 12 guys who are playing better than him. But he's Justin Thomas. He's a lot. He's a lot. And Zach Johnson basically said, I'm not worried about him. You know, like he'll be there. There's going to be a lot of guys who are not happy who are going to say, this is a boys club. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:46 Like if this isn't a meritocratic process, if, if a guy who shot 81 at LACC and then his next major round shot 82, he missed the cut in three of the four majors, the one that he did make, he made on the number, he finished T-65. I mean, he's been horrible this year. So if he's on the team and a guy like Kegan Bradley, who's having a great year doesn't make the team,
Starting point is 00:24:06 you're going to have a bunch of guys who are like, fuck this. Like, what do I need to do to make this team? I don't know. I think people get that like your play in the Ryder Cup matters as well. Like if he had been playing, if he had been part of the boys club and he'd done, like okay in the rider cup then you could have an argument when you dominate in the rider cup you deserve to be picked for the rider cup like that but i mean shot over 80 in two of his last
Starting point is 00:24:29 three major rounds like that's but he's dominant in the rider cup and not just dominant in terms of his record but he's like the guy he rallies yeah he's got a ton of energy out there he matches great with obviously speed one of his best friends rickie's going to be on the team one of his best friends so like i he's a lock i don't think you can even i get that it's like everybody was doing that thought exercise after JT really stole the headlines Friday. It was crazy. Yeah. People were talking a little bit about the course and then it was.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Well, there's nothing else. It was almost like it surfaced out of nowhere where people are like, wait a second. Are you guys noticing JT sucks? Like he's fucking horrible. And it was it was wild that they, that just that was like the second thing that they talked about on live from that night. But in my opinion, if I don't think they're even going to consider not putting them on the team. And on top of that, he committed to what, the three of them this next week.
Starting point is 00:25:17 So he's doing all the right things. things. He's like, I'm trying to make it into the FedEx Cup. I'm like, the guy, you know, where, rah, rah, rah, so like, I think he's a lock. But I don't think anybody, like, I don't think Keegan Bradley's going to be like, yeah, Justin Thomas, who's won a couple majors and a players and been dominant in the Ryder Cup. And Mr. Captain America kind of stole that baton from Patrick Reed and became the right guy, got on, like, as a captain's pick. I really don't think guys are going to bitch about that. I mean, maybe not publicly, but I think these guys care about this stuff. I mean, we were filming with Keegan last week. He said,
Starting point is 00:25:48 he thinks about it every single minute of every single day and they're going to feel like they're fighting an uphill battle. That's not really fair. It's like the deck is stacked against them. But it still is fair because like just because of how he's playing recently doesn't take away like his ability and what people know he can do. That's just not the way sports work. That's not the way the world works. Right. I understand what you're saying where like guys are going to feel like they got something taken away from them because of the way they're playing this year. But you can't just like take away everything Justin Thomas has ever done in his career and act like that means nothing. that he has to be performing at a certain level to make this specific team. But it's not like he's making the cut and finishing 50th.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Like he's been a mess over the last three months, a total mess. He has, but you know, it's not like he's incapable of playing golf. He shot one under in the second round, right? So it's like he's capable of playing golf. He was top 10 at the traveler. So he, again, he's like capable of playing golf. Yes, he's been bad. He missed four of his last six cuts.
Starting point is 00:26:42 He missed three of the four cuts in the majors this year, I believe. So like he has had a bad. fucking year. But like Frankie said, I mean, when you know what he can do, I don't think you can, like if you pick him and then he goes in there and sucks, then like the next time you obviously you don't, you don't, you can't really get by on that. But I, at this point, I cannot fathom taking a captain's pick and they leave Justin Thomas off that list. That would be insane. Yeah, especially because, you know, if the last Ryder Cup in Europe, uh, Jim Furik went with the hot hands. He went with the guys who were playing the best, Tiger, Phil,
Starting point is 00:27:16 Bryson, and they all played like shit. And we've seen, you know, Sergio was not playing that well. And then at the Ryder Cup at Whistling Straits, him and Rom were like unbeatable. So you're right. It is sort of like a different sport. And I do think he'll make the team. So you think they just go chalk with those last three. You think they go J.T. Colin and Finow. And if you were the captain and you were doing a fantasy football style, would you pick Justin Thomas with your captain's pick? I'm not sure I would. I mean, but I'm also, I'm also, I'm also. I'm also. I'm also. I'm I'm not in the room. I don't know the dynamics of the team.
Starting point is 00:27:48 But I just think as a captain, I'd want to cover my ass. And what you said, Riggs, is like, if you don't pick him, then you know, you could say, oh, he wasn't playing. Well, if you do pick him and then he plays like shit, then it's like, how did you pick this guy who shot 82 and 81 in a major championship this year? Justin Thomas, like is the room. He is. He is the room. He's the guy. Like, he's the fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:28:08 When we were in Paris, he was like the only guy that was even good. he had an unbelievable record. So it's a, again, I don't think they'll even have a discussion. I don't think Zach Johnson even considering not taking them. I think it's a complete. I think you're right about that. 100% lock. He's going to be on the team, I think.
Starting point is 00:28:25 And look, if you're Keegan or somebody and you're upset, like, you should have made it on points, right? You shouldn't have left it up. It's very easy to just say that. Play better. You would have made it on points, and you would have never been in a position where somebody could have gotten taken over you. So at the end of the day, it's like, guess what? JT has played better than you over. your entire like career and that's why he's been on rider cup teams he's been in a position to
Starting point is 00:28:46 dominate on writer cup teams he's done it he's a lot so i think he'll he'll be on the team i think you could tell that from like the ricky comments the speed comments when they're all asked about him they're like he'll figure it out very soon he'll be fine so i think he's going to be on the team but uh but yeah i mean if he goes to the three m and shoots like 80 and then misses the playoffs doesn't make the playoffs uh i i think it'll definitely be a conversation point on like in the media but I think he's being, he's, he's being taken no matter. You know, we're trying here. We're trying to make storylines here.
Starting point is 00:29:16 We're, we're, we're, we're grasping its straws. That's what I made that video. It's like, something else to talk about.

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