Fore Play - Brock Nelson and Mel Reid!

Episode Date: October 15, 2020

We’ve got a jam-packed show for you. Two guests. An American hero, a good guy who plays hard and loves the game, Brock Nelson (37:06) of the New York Islanders. And the recent first-time LPGA Tour winner, a badass Brit who could outdrink us the whole way down a mountain, Mel Reid. (87:45) With Brock we discuss his and Frankie’s golf relationship, how he got into golf growing up in a 1700 person town, being a lefty who putts righty, the NHL bubble, and more. With Mel we talk about getting in trouble for partying after winning, snowboarding in the offseason, and much more. Amongst us, we breakdown the CJ Cup this weekend and its strong field, DJ having COVID, aces on par 4s, and more!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is a big show. This is a, I feel like a destination that we've been heading towards for years on this show. There's a lot of questions that I want to ask. This man, who is someone who's close to Frankie. It's not a hockey podcast, but today it's going to be a little bit of a hockey podcast. We got Brock Nelson on the show.

from the New York Islanders. Frankie tweets about him every day. He's a man. His team is defined pretty much his entire life. And I think Brock Nelson is the second leading score on the team this year behind Barzell. I think he had, what, 54 points or something at 68 games. The average had all the Eastern Conference Finals.

We got, we've been teased forever with Islanders coming on. There's the bubble. There was not doing media. They've obviously got to run a pretty tight ship over there. Frankie plays golf with the island. He's texting with the Islanders all the time. He's crying over the Islanders. His dad's throwing chairs on him over the islanders.

And now we've got Brock Nelson on the show. And we've got Mel Reed, who's a great. She's a phenomenal story. English, just won on the LPGA tours. She's been a pro for like 13 years. She's very cool. We get into like snowboarding and skiing and all kinds of stuff. So it's a big show.

We haven't interviewed Brock yet. We have interviewed Mel at the time they were recording this part. I'm very excited to hear what Brock has to say in this show. Yeah, it's been a long time coming. like you said, you know, I've talked a big game when it comes to my Islanders, whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, it's a thing. You know, he's a great guy, and I'm looking forward to showing the world of how normal these guys are. He's one of the best pro-athlete.

Like, you know, just like I say he's a good guy, plays hard, loves a game. He's just a family guy, loves to golf. He is obsessed with the game of golf. Everything that he can possibly do around the game of golf, he wants to do it. He grew up on a golf course. He worked on a golf course. We'll get through all that in the interview. And yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

It's pretty funny because, like, I'm texting him right now. He's like, oh, like, people are pretty hype for this thing. Like, it's like, he's like, I'm just Brock Nelson. I'm not fucking Tiger Woods going on here. And so we do have to lower some expectations on that because he's just a good, he's just a good dude. And I'm excited to have you guys meet him. And, yeah, I'm looking forward to it. It is.

It's going to be fun. It is. There's anticipation because of the connection to you. Yeah. He doesn't, not because he's Tiger. It's not even because he's Brock Nelson. It's because he represents this whole other life of Frankie Bradley. And I'm excited to get a little window into that.

Well, all listeners have lost their eardrums because Frankie screamed over what Brock has done. So there is very much a tie to this podcast because Frankie has somehow injured our listeners due to this man's play. Yeah. And hopefully we can gain some more Islander fans. Maybe there's people out there that haven't had their allegiance one way or another. Maybe my fandom has drawn you away from the Islanders because I'm such an in-your-face asshole fan. But maybe if you get like an inside look at like the guys that I root for,

the guys that are in my corner, this will be a good podcast to bring on some Islander fans. You feel like you're introducing one of your friends to a new friend group by bringing Brock Nelson on this podcast? Very much. I'm like, guys, you'll love him. He knows a ton of movie references, all right? What's that movie where he's like, that's a sick movie reference, bro.

You should be proud of that. Is that Jonah Hill and This is the End? Yes. He's like, yo, man, you know so many movie references. That's unreal. Your references are out of control. Your references are out of control, bro. Everyone knows that.

So, yeah, I'm excited to have Brock Nelson on the show. I'm the least, I'm not a hockey fan. The things I know about hockey are from when you guys start talking on this podcast and I start staring at a wall. So I'm excited to have him on the show, though. He seems like a very nice guy. Or you start juggling. Sometimes you find a random eye in your room and you just juggled Trent.

Also at the point where I probably played more golf with, I've probably played just as much golf with Brock as I have with Lurch, honestly. Like I've probably played with them 10 times, like 11 times. I don't know that I've played with Lurch 10 times. So he has. Right. So we have stories on the golf course. I want to get,

I want you guys to get his vibe of me on the course when the cameras are around me, how I still crumble, how I still fucking, I mean, he's, I've lost some matches to him that are, that are just travesties. I can't wait to get a peek behind the curtain of Frankie on the course outside of when we're around. Because we hear a lot about it. There's gimmee controversies. There's really good rounds. There's bad rounds.

It's like, so I'm excited. It's going to be fun. We got Brock and we've got Mel. So we're doing a two guests show. Mel was fucking awesome. She's also, she'd beat the shit out of me and laugh at me as I walk to the fucking, like, she's just better than me and everything. She's cooler than me and everything. she's like more strong-minded than me stronger than me everything about her is just better than me

and it was really interesting to watch her talk with such she has such confidence about her and she's also just so cool like yeah like my boys with a pint like we're going to drink some pints like i can't speak like that i can't speak with that much confidence she was she was infinitely cool than that and like than we expected i think it was sort of oh you're just she's talking about again about snowboarding and all the crazy stuff that she does and how hard they go when they drink and how she's happy to get in trouble for drinking and in the pub after she won last week in Atlantic City. And we're just like, we're losers talking on a Zoom about like what, how we can break 90 and you're out of here doing all these cool things. I'm talking about taking whiskey shot. I mean, it was just the whole thing

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dramatic Tuesday night. Yeah, so The Bachelorette is back after a very long layoff. They, just like sports, they had to delay filming. I think they started filming in March right when all this kicked off and they had to shut down. They made a Bachelor bubble in Palm Springs. They flew in a bunch of guys. It's the Bachelorette, and it's Claire Cree. Crowley is the Bachelorette. She's got 31 guys buying for her, for her love and her heart. And it's started last night. And I'm, it's really, I love that the Bachelorette is back. It's one of my favorite things that I tweet about. We do, uh, we're doing an after show now called cutting stems, which is sponsored by Owens Mixers. Shout out to them. We did that last night. And then we also,

uh, we do Bachelorette recaps on the Chicks in the Office podcast. So it becomes a busy time of year for me on Tuesdays now, uh, with the Bachelorette. And it's just, it's a great show. I know you guys don't watch, but it's fantastic. I did see somebody try to take your, Dave tried to take your man card. Yeah, what did you think about that? So for all the listeners, Dave was on the rundown in classic Dave fashion. He just put Trent on the spot and he goes, Trent, were you publicly rooting against the game seven in the NBA final so that you could watch The Bachelorette and Trent, being an

honest and good man, said, yes, I was. And then Trent just looked at him almost like the way he called Rick Bozo and he just goes, not a man. He just goes, you're not a man. And just went on to the next topic, Trent had to speak up for himself at some point. I was like, well, I am a man. That's a fact. You went very Frankie Borelli in that ethic where you're like, there are two facts here. One fact is that I watch The Bachelor, and the other fact is that I am a man. So these two things can coexist. What do you think about this new way of thinking where it's like, if you watch The Bachelor, you are less of a man? Maybe it's not a new way of thinking. It's actually probably an old way. What do you, what do you

thinking about that. It's something I've been fighting for five years now because ever since I started tweeting about it, people who will get in my mentions being like, either you're not a man for watching this show. And I've gotten to the point now where I just don't care. It's not about manly, not manly. It's about watching a show that I like. Now, this was a specific scenario where if the heat pushed the Lakers to a game seven, they were then going to push the Bachelor premiere to next week. And I was fully rooting for LeBron James to close it out so I could watch the Bachelor of us. And you're an NBA guy. You're an NBA guy. I'm not an NBA guy. It's a, it's a, it's a fun sport to watch, but I'm not an NBA. I'm more of a bachelor's guy than I am an NBA guy. Like, I don't care. I always thought you're pretty into basketball more of the show than I. Well, he's out about Iowa because they have that big guy Garza. So like when the March Madness happens, I feel like Trent is on constant of that big boy Garza down the middle. Who's such an Iowa.

We might win the title this year. But I like the NBA, but I like The Bachelorette more. And I knew the Lakers were going to win that finals. And I don't, so I didn't want to extend it another week. I just wanted to watch The Bachelorette. So as far as the man card thing goes, that is, that is, if you, like, the people who actually take the man card thing seriously, those are the biggest losers on the planet. Like, that's just not a thing.

It's like, I can watch what show I want to watch. And if I want to watch that instead of a game seven, then that's what it is. I don't buy into the man card thing. We even get it to a degree with golf. Like on Sunday afternoon, you're tweeting about like an up and down. You'll see some of the replies are like,

oh, bro, there's fucking football. Are you serious? And it's like, well, no, actually, I like golf more than football. So, like, are you serious? Do you not, like, do you not get that? Does your brain not able to comprehend that people are different? And I actually like that sport other than the sport

that you're watching. So go fuck yourself. Like, they can't comprehend it. It's the same thing the bachelor, like that is, I think the, sometimes you go on a spree, Trent, where you just quote tweet people that are like, oh, there's a baseball game on tonight. And you're like, oh, is there a baseball game on? Is there? Well, the main thing I always say is I have two TVs, which I do. I have two TVs. So I remember a couple years ago, somebody, there was a football game on on a

Monday night and I was tweeting about the Bachelorette. And some guy tweeted me like, yo, bro, you know there's football on, right? So I quote tweeted it and I took a picture of my two TVs. and I was like, I had two TVs, but I put them both on The Bachelorette. And it was one of my favorite things ever. But it's like, people can watch whatever they want. It's just, it almost goes down, you remember, or like when people say, you drink like a fruity drink, that's a girly drink, just drink whatever you want, watch whatever you want. Do whatever you want.

You are allowed to do that. It's like when I have a nice dinner that I want to enjoy, I have no problem drinking an ice cold Coca-Cola. I know it makes me look like a child. I know that the men at the table will drink a Guinness or a beer, a heavy beer with their steak. And I'm like, do you have a Coca-Cola please, extra ice and a straw maybe? Like, I want to enjoy this meal. I like the taste of that.

I know that it looks a little soft. And like you're saying, maybe sometimes when you're sitting at, you're at a rooftop bar or overlooking New York City, you want to order a froset. I've been there. I've ordered a froset before. Like, I, there is no manliness to me anymore. I've been on the internet for five years now, like, however long long. I've been publicly on the internet. People know who I am at this point.

And you know that I'm like, I'm not strong. I'm not going to fight. I can barely grow facial hair. Like, who am I going to fucking, who am I tricking? Right. Like, people have known this about you, Trent, that you like the bachelor. Who, at what point, like, they want you to mask a show that you like because, like, you're not watching football.

What's going on here? It's crazy to me. No, I couldn't agree more. And I've now gotten to the point where I've been fighting this battle on Twitter for so long and I've quoted so many people that now when I get it, I don't know who's being sarcastic and who's being genuine. Because now people

will sarcastic, they'll be like, oh, you're not watching sports. And so I've muddied the water so much that I don't even really pay attention to it. And you just like, I'm going to do that. I'm not a guy. You just roast a guy who's just being sarcastic. And he's like, oh, I'm in on the job. Exactly. A majority of the people that do watch these, like, national football games, they go in

and out of them. There's like, if you're like that diehard of an NFL fan, like you're your team playing. It's just like the Ravens versus the Bengals or whoever it is and you're like, oh, crazy. I can't leave the table. Like if you have a bet with the Barso's Sportsbook app, I understand that, or maybe your fantasy team, like you check in here and there. I need like Joe Bird, a guy from that play. But like half those people that are watching it are tuning in and out anyway. They're leaving the room. They're going to get dinner. The football games on. It is like, you're just watching the Bachelorette while they're just doing other things on their Monday night. There's no way they're

that dialed in where they see a tweet of someone doing something else. And because it's something they don't like, they're like, oh, no, you're not allowed to do that. Meanwhile, they're probably just in the bathroom, fucking jerking off during the game. It doesn't matter. You know, watching that. People are idiots if they can't understand that other people have different interests. Like, if you don't understand that, like, you're just, you're a person that I have no interest in communicating with at any level.

And Frank. It's, like, one-way street. Frank, you're right. Like, if you're, what do you, if you're that diehard, what are you, like, Roblo's sitting in the crowd with an NFL hat on? Like, that's your big allegiance is, like, NFL. I have to see NFL. It's like, no, if you, if you can be a passive fan,

if you're a big chiefs fan that your team's on, or if one of your big rivals is on and you want to see them lose, fine. But outside of that, if it's like you can't focus on anything else in the world because you're just such a fan of the game and you're rooting for good football, you're also a loser. You're a fucking loser. Listen, I don't want to go, I don't want to go too far, but I'm a voice for the voiceless when it comes to guys watching The Bachelorette.

I have guys reach out to me all the time. And they're like, I love this show. I'm glad that there's someone who has a platform who's finally watching it. You have normalized men watching The Bachelorette. And that's just what it is. It's a good show that I think a lot of people should watch. I think they would like it. We all have our things that, like, I watched fucking Grey's Anatomy for like 14 years.

I watched Grey's Anatomy for, I feel like my entire upbringing of life. And, like, I feel like guys don't watch Grey's Anatomy that often. So we all have our stuff. I don't personally love that. I find that to be like kind of like it's just all the same shit. Like she's just dating the same guy for five, 15 weeks in a row. But there's a lot of drama in it.

And like I told you, I'll always, I'll always tune in towards the end. I love the ending. The ending's a fucking drama fest. Tears, crying, the whole thing.

Nobody's taking shots, but then Frankie took a quick shot at the bachelor's head by just saying, well, it's just all the same thing. Nothing really. Like, all these 11 guys, they line up on either side of the football and one score,

maybe they scored touchdown, maybe they don't. They play for four and quarters, and it's just, it's the same thing every week. Every week. It is. No, she's like, oh, she's going to go on a date tonight. It's just like it's the same. Oh, they're going to hide that.

Yeah. Oh, the islanders might score. They might not. Like, you can boil anything down. They're going to stop the puck and the goalie's going to try to stop it from going in the net. Oh, that's so unpredictable. Yeah, I guess so.

I'm just trying to get these tweets off, okay? I love tweeting about The Bachelorette, and it's, you know, I'm never going to stop ever. I just looked at buying an NFL house. that just a hat that just said NFL to troll you, but then it was $17 and it wasn't really worth it. Joe, don't know, you should see how much, you see, how I was saying, you see how much we charge for our hats?

Yeah, but on hats have something better on it. You can't go broadcast. You can't go broadcast than that. Yeah. But I was just saying what I said about the NFL, I would say the same thing about golf. Like if it's Vaughn Taylor and Webb Simpson and Brandt Stedeker coming down the stretch in like Vegas or something,

I'm not watching that. But like if it's if it's one of our guys, if it's kids, if it's somebody that you're really rooting for, like, I'm gung-ho and I'm going to be very, very tuned in. So it's the same thing really with any sport. You're just, like it's hard to imagine, like you said, being that dialed in just for like the game in general unless you have a legitimate vested interest in the team, which you could have with gambling. The free shots that get taken around this podcast are just amazing. I was just air punching and just Vaughn Taylor and Webb Simpson as you just kind of just. some light jabs out in their face. I mean, they're not the most electric offers in the world.

No, they're not. And we have no connection. I don't get to fuck if those guys win or losing tournament. Like, I just don't care. It means nothing to. Bottom line, do whatever you want to, just do whatever you want to do. Watch whatever you want to watch. Drink whatever you want to drink and live your life.

But actually, you can't just watch whatever you want to watch because what you need to watch, where we're going to tell you to watch, is Friday, October 16th, only in theaters. Liam Neeson stars in the new movie, Honest Thief. So you need to be watching. You can't get your butt to the theaters. He plays a famous bank robber who decides to turn himself in so he can be with the woman he loves.

What's happening right now? What's happening right now? What's happening right now? What's happening right now? It's called honest thief. And we're promoting it right now, Frank. Holy source. Bro, Liam Neeson is a fucking badass.

But he's a fucking badass. Liam Neeson puts asses in the seats. And all, he has a recipe for what you need in a movie. Something happens to him, whether it's his daughter, family, mother, cousin, anything. Nothing happens to him, but someone has wrong, Liam Neeson. And then they now have a time to either give up what they've done or he's coming to search for them. And I will listen to this description of it as you explained, but I know for a fact that this movie that you're about to describe is that. And it's also a must-wit.

watch movie. You want to talk about like The Bachelor being the same thing week after week? Every Liam Nisa movie is somewhat the same. They're all incredible. You can't miss one of them. Frankie, you're not going to believe it. But he just tries this honest life, but he wants to live. And for no good reason whatsoever, two crooked FBI agents double cross him, taking all his money and framing him for murder. And guess what, Frankie? He's going to fight to clear his name and perhaps even seek a little revenge. You can't double cross the niece, man. You just can't double cross him.

No one's like dominated a storyline more than he has. And like I really would put him up against anyone for recurring characters. Like he is, what is it, typecast? Like Liam Neeson is the same character in every movie and he's also never lost his edge. And that has to be one of the most impressive things in cinematic history. I would say Denzel's right up there too. He was doing like Man on Fire and some of those movies. Oh, Denzel, yes.

He's very much the same. He's got, and each movie is good. Like a Sunday afternoon where you see that's on TV. It's just instant put it on, watch it. Like I'm pathetically forgetting Liam's like bread and butter with the girl that he He's taken. Thank you.

That's like every time it comes on, you're like, I want to be Liam. Jason, every time. Like, that teaser, when he's like, okay, and now this is the most important part, they're going to take you. He's like, fuck, they're going to take her. And he's got to get her back. He has, if you need your revenge fix, like, no one is going to give you the good stuff

better than Denise man. Like, he just brings it every time. And so, Honest Thief rated PG-13. It's in theaters Friday, October 16th. That is tomorrow for all of you listeners, Friday. October 16th, go see Liam Neeson, the niece man. He may be seeking a little revenge in Honest Thief, so you're going to want to check that out. Okay.

We have got a couple quick headlines to run through, and then we're going to get to our interviews with Brock Nelson and with Mel Reed. I want to give a big shout out first to Jeremy, who he sent me a little message that happened to cover cross. Said Jeremy here from Tulahoma, Tennessee. I don't know if that's a real town, but I just read it. I said I'm a huge fan. I listen religiously. Thank you very much. Just wondering if I get a shout out on this show.

Make my life because I just made my first one one ever today, and it was on a part four, 285 yards with a bunker in front of the green. I teed up a little high and hit a baby fade, landed it on the green and rolled right in the hole. It was awesome. I had a witness. Keep up the great content. I'd love to meet you guys one day. Hit it hard.

So that deserves your first ace ever is on a 285 yard bar floor. That's going to get a shout out every time. God damn, 200. If you, this is going to be a stupid question, but I feel like I'd rather have my first hold on a part three. For being honest. Because the part four seems a little luckier, you think? It just seemed like, I don't know.

It seems like people are going to be like, well, you did what now? Like what's going on over there? Like with a part three, it's pretty standard. I don't know. That was just my gut reaction to that. Yeah, I could see people being like, oh, you got an ace. Like what club you hit? And you're like, driver.

and they're like, what do you mean driver? Like, it's a part, it's you got an eight and then you got to explain. But, I mean, it's more impressive, right? Right. Certainly. It's more rare. I mean, you got to, you can be like, oh, you can be like, I got a whole one. And then I'm like, oh, like, how long did it?

And you're like, now listen to this. It was fucking par four. I took a driver. Like, that's, you're getting, I mean, like, now, why don't you take a seat? I'm about to tell you a story. That's the opposite of having to explain you did it at the cradle. You know what I mean? It's the opposite.

It's like, I have a story for you. I can't just say yes because you're not going to believe how good this whole law was. Yeah, but the knock on it is if the course had a 285 yard par four, it's like, could have been that difficult of a court. But either way, I think it could have been that difficult of a course. I'm just saying. You can have a dog leg. But I was.

Like U.S. Open courses have drivable part four. The one thing that I think that gets taken from him, which is taken, is that you don't get to see the ball actually go in the hole. if I made a hole in one, like Riggs, your brothers, where it was like, like, the green was clearly blown, and you got to see it the whole time, if you're so lucky to get a hole in one and you get to see it actually going the hole in the whole. It's skilled, really, like me at the cradle. I didn't see mine going at the cradle, unfortunately.

That would be the coolest thing of all time. Yeah, it reminds the one that I almost had at that course of New Jersey. That was a great example, where it's, like, landed behind it on hill and spun back and rolled right over the lip where you're right. Like you want that dramatic, those dramatics of seeing it. And not having that definitely takes a little bit away from it. Because then you get the anti-clamatic like you walk up. Like, oh, I don't see it.

You walk over. Oh, it's in. And everyone's like, oh, no, but you actually already hit edits ago. We're not like, that's great. You want me to take a photo and it's just kind of not as excited. Yeah. Yeah, it's too bad. I didn't mean to tell.

I don't want to take away from this guy's first toll and one. Yeah. What the fuck, Trent? This guy. I just want to. I wanted to have a conversation about it because I think Blurts brings up a very good point about not being able to watch it go in.

I think that's very fair. Thank you, Trent. Congratulations to Jeremy. Big shout out from us. Nice age. Jeremy's spoken. I can't hear the name. Jeremy without thinking of Pearl Jam.

It's crazy. He can't be named Jeremy without people singing that shit. I didn't think about it. Really? Wow. I don't know a lot of Pearl Jam. Oh, me either. All right.

Wrong crowd. I'm not a huge, tough crap. I wouldn't see I'm a huge pearl jam guy either. Dude, I watched the office episode where Dwight gets that fucking, that award and he freezes up. So then Michael Scott goes up there and he's fucking doing a million different things. He's saying they did. And then they cut away from him. And then they come back to him after he's clearly been up there, just really just annoying the crowd for the last 20 minutes.

And at one point he's just doing noises. He's like, car starting. Oh! He's like, all right. This one's a car going away. Woo. And then like finally, Dwight comes up and he just goes,

good luck, tough crowd. Good luck, tough crowd out there. It's just like you did the worst possible job for that crowd of all that. That's what I felt like right there with Fred Jamms.

Yeah. Okay. CJ Cup, Vegas. They're in Shadow Creek. This is the last time we saw Shadow Creek, I believe, was the Tiger Phil Mickelson match,

which ended up where they made that hole that looked like a dick and balls where they're in wedges in. ended up winning the 9 or 10 million, whatever ended up being against Tiger Woods. They're back there. It's a crazy course. It's just a block,

you know, a couple city blocks in the middle of Vegas. We've seen the aerial shot now where the, I don't know if it's a drone or if it's a blimp that looks straight down. And it's just all brown, brown, brown, desert, and then in the middle of it, you've got a perfectly green manicured golf course with like creeks and rocks and stuff, that's Shadow Creek.

A lot of people were obsessed with it. It is gorgeous. It is really cool. And so a lot of the visuals, I think, are going to be pretty sweet. We got a lot of big names back. Brooks Kefka's back. He, of course, he didn't even play in the U.S. Open because of injury. He hasn't played, I think, since what, the PGA championship?

When he, on Saturday night, was just firing missiles at DJ, how he's only won one of these. And then the next day, everyone else played better than he did. And he was kind of a non-factor, took a bunch of time off. Have you seen the picture of him? Yeah, he looks absolutely yoke. Is that what you're talking about? He actually looks in the picture. Yeah, there's a picture of Brooks Keppka.

He looks bigger than Bryson in this photo. And I don't know if that's been his goal to take some time off, come back to be a completely new machine of Brooks Kevka. Because like, if this is now going to be, if I mentioned this to who, with it Trevor? I can't remember who he said to, but it's like the steroid era. of baseball. If we're now going to have Sammy Sosa versus Mark McGuire and Barry Bond and all these guys are going to start fucking exploding their biceps and playing golf, I cannot sign up for that more. It is going to be must watch golf every single week. If we have guys who are ballooning out of their shirts hitting 370 yard bombs. And I hope that's what Brooks Kevka plans on doing. Have you guys seen this picture? I have not. I saw the photo. But he's, I do be like, I has been pretty good about a little bit of optical illusion.

Like, yeah, he wears, like, apparently those shirts that he wears are so tight in his biceps that he, like, can't take his shirt off after the raft. Like, he makes sure that they're worn like that. So, and then when you see him a person, I think we've all had that where he doesn't look like he looks like on TV. Like, he looks pretty normal size, just like pretty cut. He doesn't look like. They talk about him like he's a linebacker and stuff.

He doesn't look that huge in person. Now, this photo, he looks absolutely, he looks like Bryson. Like you said, he looks like he beefed up like a crazy person. But I don't, I'm just, I'm hesitant to say that he looks in real life like Bryson because I think he's done this kind of stuff before. Although there was the stretch there where he admitted to, he didn't lift anymore. He stopped lifting. I think it was around the body issue for ESPN because he didn't look as big.

And people were like, oh, you don't look as jacked as we thought. I just set this picture into the group text. It's an outrageous photo. He's exploding, exploding out of that of that T-shirt. It does. He's like almost got, he's done something with his shoulders and arms and make them look outrageously big in comparison. Yeah.

Like, I don't know why, but he does look massive. It's like he's wearing an extra small shirt or something. Or it's like, I don't know. The body of the shirt is like an XL, but the sleeves he got ordered as a small. Like it's a custom fit, so it makes him look gigantic. He looks huge. He does look huge. I just don't believe that he looks that big and real like.

Again, that picture, when you send that picture, it's hard to disagree with the photographic evidence. But I don't know. He did have comments, by the way. He said about Bryce and he said, hey, it's something he's found that's working for him. And it's cool to see. It's just kind of fun as a fan of the game. I don't see anything wrong with it. It's working for him.

And then he went on to say he's pushing it to that next level, finding the boundaries of how far he can actually hit it and play with it. And he's done a good job of that. He's hitting it a mile. So the man who usually kind of trolls Bryson, he troll them at the PGA championship about how like, yeah, you don't necessarily have to do all the scientific stuff to go out and shoot a good score, given Bryson a little bit of credit.

I mean, after he wins the U.S. Open, you kind of got to take your medicine a little bit. After you, you know, fired off at the PGA, things didn't go well. Those nagging injuries came back. And then Bryson just lighting the world on fire. Just lighting the world on fire. So I appreciate him giving his props. The trolling, I enjoy quite a bit. I think it's pretty funny.

But when a guy's playing well, the guy's playing well, you've got to give it to him. I think he'll be back with the trolling. I think there's no doubt about that. But he also, he seems pretty present. minded in terms of that stuff because for years he didn't say it worked and then after he won a couple majors he just started going crazy and sounding off on everything so i could very much see him now being like well i've been injured for like a year and bryson beefed up and just won the u.s open so he's got you know the present mindedness to sort of say hey yeah that guy's doing a great job i do hope and think

that once brooks get back to you know contending in majors uh that he starts to troll bryson and brandle again because that's kind of, we get into that with Mel Reed, by the way, how much we enjoy that. How about Dustin Johnson having COVID? DJ's got COVID. I will say, like, it almost feels like a, when these things happen now, it's just, like, so many people get it that are professional athletes, and they take, like, their week or 10 days off, I feel like, and then they're back, and it's not, it just doesn't, like, on the professional athlete level. Right.

strike me the way it did at the beginning when we first returned to sports. As far as we know with his underlying issues or anything, he's not a high-risk guy. Right. So it's like Scotty, like, you know, Scottie Shepard had it and missed the U.S. Open. And then it was like, he was just like back in a week. And it's not, it's just kind of like, okay. So on that, on that level, it like doesn't it feel like that? It is true.

Like, yeah, if this had happened, if Dustin Johnson had tested positive for COVID in April or May, this would be humongous news. But now it's just, you know, he's going to quarantine. He's going to get better or, you know, he might not even have symptoms. It sounds like he had a couple symptoms, but nothing crazy. And then he's going to be back out there in a couple weeks. I agree. Yeah, it's like he's going to miss the CJ Cup.

Like, okay, you know, he'll be fine for the masters. Like, great. So that's kind of, I mean, yes, it's big news. Obviously, it's the number one story on golf channel's website I saw earlier. But it doesn't seem like he has underlying conditions. so we don't hopefully have to like panic and have it be a ginormous deal. I hope he gets well. I hope he experiences little to no symptoms.

That would be great. DJ's awesome for the game. He shot 30 under bar, you know, a couple months ago, won in a tournament by 11 and went on one of the bigger hot streaks of the entire year in just dominating fashion. So I think golf needs him back. Okay. We got a couple big interviews.

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All right. We officially are finally joined by Brock Nelson, an American hero, a good guy who plays hard and loves the game, hailing from War Road, Minnesota. Brock Nelson, number 29, welcome to Ford. I'm very happy to have you. There it is. Thanks for having me. I've always wondered what that sounds like with an actual voice, like instead of just the Twitter, the typing and the characters. That was a pretty good intro.

It's usually much more screaming with a bunch of exclamation points added to it on the tweets. So, I mean, I'm usually going absolutely bananas, what I'm saying, that thing. Yeah, yeah, that's good. I've always wondered too, Frankie, do you, like, say that out loud in your head as you're typing it? Are you screaming out loud? The weird thing about this year was, like, we were streaming for all the games, like, with my dad and watching the games from Borrelli. So when Brock would score, I'd be screaming it as I'm thinking it as I'm, typing it and making sure I had no miss spelled word because you can't mess that tweet up.

Like it's instantly like thousand likes. You can't know that thing's coming. You can't mess up on Twitter the grammar. Please come in in a hurry. Oh my God. I think you wouldn't believe. Especially on a tweet like that that you know is like going to get a good amount of action. You got to, you'll get absolutely roasted if you mess anything up.

It's infuriating. So I want to hear my, I want to ask about your, your golf experience. with Frankie. I'm eager to understand. Like the first time you played golf with Frankie, what were you expecting versus what did you see? Yeah, I mean, I heard all the stories like the butter knife and terrible short game and everything and it all lived true. You're good for you're good for probably a couple, two, three blemishes around the greens, a round out, I would say. You don't you think it's fair? I think that's fair, but I mean, it's actually funny that you're starting with that and you're not starting with the fact that we've played

played probably like seven, eight, nine matches against each other. And I've led Brock in almost every single one going on to the back nine. I was going to get into that too. That's probably the best part. That's probably one of my favorite parts. Actually, like, Frankie will get off to the lead and get so excited and so confident in his game. And then slowly as a round goes on, you can see like shot by shot, like all of a sudden, like his soul just leaves his body to a point of like he's standing on 17 and he's just like doesn't know what happened. And he's forgotten all about the last eight holes. say it's like a duck ship like you can recover from it his blemishes are the holes all because it's over it's like two miles gone it's funny too because he almost talks himself into though like cherry valley hole one like it's a short part four like you should you should never make

worse than a four and like frankie steps up and he he's just praying for a five he knows he can he can put it right down there by the green he knows that next chip i've seen him I think I've seen them bladed over the green two or three times. And then I've also seen them just chunk a couple short and then just be so out of it and defeated right away out of the gates. It's a less than 300-yard hole and I've never made a par on it. It's a really, really, really. It's all mental demons for me. Like you said, I walk up to the hole number one and I know I'm not making a par.

When it comes to our matches, like, I mean, the first one that we ever had, I'm like, you know, you're playing with Brock Nelson. So, like, we had, we talked about golf a little bit. We went to the driver range once, like, and then we finally stopped up to the T, and I'm, like, playing against him. I was up seven through, like, nine or something like that. It was bad. It was an ugly front nine, for sure. Seven through nine.

I'm, like, thinking myself, like, fuck, like, I feel bad for this guy. Like, this is crazy. Like, I brought him out, like, we're golfing. Like, we found a nice place, Cherry Bowler was the first time playing there. And then something happened on the back nine where, like, it was over. I mean, I blew a seven stroke, a seven whole league. after nine holes and I don't think that's ever been done in the history of golf in a competitive nature like when you're trying to win I don't think it's ever been done

part of that's just how yeah part of that's also my game though like my splits like you can attest to it like my splits will be like 43 36 or like or reverse like one side is a great one side's bad like I think it's happened three or four times with you frankly like at cherry valley front nine terrible like feel good but it's like 42 43 and you get to the back then like the one time I just think I shot 35 and it was just kind of like no problem. But you can't put it together for both. So you say you're a split guy, how would you describe your game? And you've played golf for most of your life, right?

And we'll get into like you growing up on golf course working it. But like how would you describe your game? It's probably ugly to watch as a spectator or like an opponent in the group. You could probably confirm that. But never know what you're going to get like from T to green. And then around the green, like I, I feel pretty good about the short game and, like, pretty confident that, like, I can get it up and down from a good range and never out of a hole in, like, a match. Like, against Frankie, I miss a fairway over, and, like, I can see him just, like, all giddy and just, like, walking down, like, thinking he's got it, and then I can put one on the green and he's just standing in the fairway, like, looking at me, like, can't figure out what happened.

He is, like, Frankie is such a beauty to play with because he can't not, like, live with his heart on his sleeve every moment of every day. So every shot. Yeah, he'll have seven different like roller coaster emotions in one hole. And they always talk about you should never get too low, never get too high. Like Frankie gets so high when you hit a shit shot and you hit a good one and he's like devastating. Yeah, he's like there's been a couple times too where like he's actively like cheering my ball mid mid like arc like pro tracer to get it in the water like go in. Like I remember that was like 13 or 14 at Cherry Valley. We were in a match.

Obviously, I was leaking oil. I'm leaking oil. I'm fucking. I was up six. Now I'm down one. And he hits one up in the air. And you just hear me at the back from my car. Just go, go in.

Go in there. Get in there. Get wet. Get wet. And he looks back. Which is fucking. Yeah. I mean, obviously, when you're in a match,

you're obviously thinking it for your opponent every time. You have to. I hope this guy screws up. But I've never heard it actually, like, vocalize out loud. Like, as I'm, like, watch this thing kind of on the edge. The Brock's game is very much, like, like, he said. It's a scramble. type. You can't believe. I would actually equate that to Riggs's the game as well, where Riggs

is in a lot of rough, he's in a lot of bunkers, and then all of a sudden you get to the end of the hole and you're like, you made what? You made a four? Like, how is that possible? Yeah, somehow you can just grind it out and score. Like, as long as you just erase, like, I can't remember where I saw, but somebody once said, like, you just need one good shot a hole. So, like, as long as I can find the ball off the T, like, it's not out of bounds or, like, in a pond or something, like, that you just need one shot to get back by the green. And, like, at that case, you're at worst making a boge. 100% I live by that as well

like I don't have to hit four great shots to make par no I got to hit one and like the amount of times you'll play a good round of golf where you're actually hitting it really well and you'll go like good drive good iron to like 15 feet but you're like two putting those all day and making par and then the next like the next nine you're hitting driver way right like an iron way left you hit a good chip to like seven feet you make it you're like no that was the same hole but it was so different

yeah 100% that's my game to a T just doesn't it's just it's ugly and not never the same but somehow find a way we've talked a big game about because you're like he's very frustrating because you think you should have the advantage but like no there's no advantage so then you like you're like I'm hitting it better but it all counts the same and then you end up like frankie blowing up if that's like the case and you're making like easy pars and they're making hard pars if it's so frustrating because you feel like you're dominating them but you're you're tied or you're like down one and then you just want to lose your Vermont. Well, what's the whole 11 at Cherry Valley? Is that the short par four down the hill?

Yeah, that's, yeah, because it's part five and then it's part four coming back, yeah. So par four down the hill, it's a drivable par four. I remember I hit a drive right down the middle. I'm tripping up onto the green for Eagle. Brock hits one on the other fairways rough. I'm talking like 250 yards way right. He's not even on the same stratosphere as I'm sitting there with my chip. I blade one to the back of the green, of course. Now I have a tough birdie put coming down to the hole. I missed that thing. Brock's still looking for his ball. He finds it in the thick rough of the other hole takes out what we call the weapon. And Brady Shea was on Fort Play. He talks about the weapon. It's 58 degrees. It's this black 60 degree thing that has stant weapon on it.

He pulls this thing out. And when I tell you, from the clouds, this ball just lands on the edge of the cup. And I look around like, whose ball was that? Thinking it's someone on the next teeth, he just looks at me and smirks and goes, you want to throw that back to me? Like it's like the cockiest, the cock is, he's in for birdie. And I'm like,

I have 15 feet for par. I almost drove the green. So it's a very, very frustrating game to play again. But he's got one of the best short games I've ever seen. He never has to take his putter out of his bag. And when he does,

he puts righty. We've talked a lot about that on the show. The guy's a lefty golfer, putts righty. How did that come to do that you just switch hands? Like, I think I had a bad putter, like, lefty. Like, I had like the little Phil one that's just like,

so small and thin and it's just like too light and i had like i mean you hate to say it but like the yips with the putter like we're within five feet and a bunch of my buddies could attest with like i wouldn't even hit the hole and then one day like i don't know i think it started like i think clutter buck had its putter at the rink um after the season one time like i just grabbed it and i was like it feels kind of nice it's kind of like the mallet scotty and i was like this is kind of nice like i should give this a rip one time and then i went back to minnesota like i didn't try it yet but then played a couple rounds and then finally like was so bad i took a just took like the rental uh demo out of the out of the pro shop and went out and i was lights out righty and i was like

i just i got to commit to it like i hold it like a lefty still but i just committed to it and and still putting righty now this day for a few years i mean you hold it like a left just right hand on top so it's like it's like a back end just like wow wow so interesting wow so you switched hands and then go like basically left left hand low like you do the speed but now you switch to hand yeah just backwards that it golf's the game when it doesn't matter how it looks so just got to get it done believe me i've been preaching that for decades i told i told frankie he's got to give it a try one time what's the worst can't put any worse can't put any worse that's what i heard the other day i played at north shore and i actually saw your old i texted you i saw your old

Garst snow ahead of me. And I think he saw, he looked back at one point and saw me getting people's putters on me. I was asking for people. I was just trying anything I could. Like I had a spider, a righty spider. I had a lefty mallet. I had my own and I'm hitting putts all around the green. So I am actively trying to see what will work because like you said, it can't get much worse. I don't know if it's an eye thing. People are saying, I need to get a mirror. And there's so much science or like technique behind it. Like somebody mentioned that to me too. I told my switch to writing. like, oh, it's probably just your eye was offsetter, not looking down the line, or maybe you're right.

I want to look down the line more. Like, I've never had a lesson or anything. Like, I just, it feels good, and, like, I've just stuck with it now. So never had a lesson. You've been around. Instant. Like, I'm, because we've got a buddy who's going through the exact same thing. He's a really, it's our buddy Josh, who's friends with all of us, is a great guy.

He's a really good player. He's a scratch, maybe even, like, a plus one. But he's been going through putty. you for like a year and he's debating switching from righty to lefty but he's like it's a transitional period he's like I can't put it in play yet it's taking a month of like practicing and experimenting with different putters and crazy yours was just instant you just switched I mean I'm I'm I messed around with it for a little bit but I mean it wasn't just like a cold like one day all of sudden grabbed and switch but like I messed around a couple times with like righty putters but like

I grew up playing righty a little bit when I was like real young back home and then I did everything else lefty so like I would swing my grand my grandparents had a house with like a little field and they made like a little mock part three in town which is kind of fun so we'd go out there and mess around with clubs all the time and like I just remember swinging a little bit of both and then lefty just felt more comfortable so like I always knew like I always knew how to do a little bit of righty but when I grabbed the putter like it just felt smoother and like everything was just night and day better growing up in war road small town up in the sticks basically Canada what was It like you had a golf course, you worked at the golf course.

What was that like? What was your upbringing with golf? Because you obviously have a passion. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's, I mean, that's obviously where it all started. Like 1,700 small town, two stop whites, but had an 18-hole par 72 golf course, which is actually like for the area, a pretty tough course, like pretty narrow and tight,

which is shocking for my game. But we grew up, like lived on the golf course, I think until my junior year of high school. So, like, we were always able to rip around on the course. And 1,700 people, I think. is never packed for tea times. Like you're, you're always able to play. And we had four or five buddies that all lived on the course with carts.

And, like, you could just, like, shoot a text or, like, give them a call. Like, back when you had a house phone, just call over their house and be like, hey, like, is Aaron there? Is Aaron there? You want to go play? Like, he, like, rip over on the cart, pick you up and, like, you go. And if one's packed, you go to four. Four is packed.

You just, like, you just hot, find a hole. But it was the best thing ever. And then, yeah, later on, like, got to work there. I think there was five workers. Like, the video that you guys did, that you did Frankie on, like, The wing foot thing was like so cool to see like grounds keeping on a larger scale, like a sick course. Right, because you guys have five people. Yeah, we had five or six people working like this little course, but for up there at work.

Like that's how you need. So, but yeah, so I was around the course all the time. You just, you just measured and described the size of your town by how many stoplights there were, which I think you said two, which is. Two stoplights. And actually fun fact that my mom recently told me they're getting rid of them and putting in a roundabouts. You're going to have zero stoplights. Zero stoplights back home and world. This place pumps out NHL players, though, does it not?

There's been quite a few, yeah. A lot of hockey men's and women's to come out of there. It's like hockey in the winter and then like rip around the town in the summer and just do whatever you want. But growing up, like that's it. You just get to rip around and do anything. Like you could ride your bike and be anywhere within 10 minutes, like course, rink, school, like lake. so you had everything. It's amazing.

Sounds like a fantasy land up there. It doesn't even sound like a real place. Why do you think that is that it pumps out NHL players? I know so little about hockey, but I know you are because of Frankie. But why do you think out of that town it just pumps out hockey players like that? Like what's the reason?

I don't know. The opportunity, I think just being able to grow up and have fun and you have access to ice all the time. Like I think that being like living down here in like Minneapolis, St. Paul now, you see like ice is a little bit harder to find like when when we were younger like we could just go up i remember my grandpa used to like take me when i was in first couple grades of school like if it was only a half day like i could just go rip up to the rink for a couple hours and like we'd go

skate for two three hours and just mess around and do whatever you want and like open hockey was you could skate two three hours every day you could always find ice like didn't matter like same thing with golf like you just text a couple buddies and be like hey you want to go you want to go up to the gardens or the Olympic, like there's ice and head up there. Like, you get a game going anytime. He says his grandpa. His grandpa was Christian hockey sticks, right? Yeah.

Oh, where? Yeah. Come on. Yeah. My grandpa, his brother, and then another guy, they were the ones that sounded that. Amazing. And then his uncle, Dave Christian, from the Miracle team. So it's like, it's outrageous, the history of hockey players.

And then Brock comes up. That's why I call him an American hero. He's just drenched. in American hockey DNA. Yeah. I got a good... It makes a little bit more. It makes a little bit more sense.

Riggs and I played hockey growing up. I was a goalie and like, but we always had the pond hockey sticks that had like the red Christian with a light white lettering on it. Yeah. Some old school sticks that were like, if they were wooden pond hockey sticks,

it was like a Sherwood or a Christian and you just grab it and go and it was like playing potter. I'm jealous that you've got to do it like much more than I did because in Jersey we would get like pot hockey for like one week a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the best thing in the world.

Like if you're a kid outside, feeling the cold air and like scurrying around and like slapping pucks with your buddies, it is just incredible how much fun that is. Oh, it's great. Yeah, like there was an outdoor rank right by the two indoor ranks and then like the river that would run through town, a couple buddies like lived on the river and they would just shovel off a patch and like you could go, they'd throwing that out there. And like you always, you could find ice outside all the time unless it was minus 30. then like you can't step foot outside but so do you guys your family just hate synergy then like when

the synergy sticks came along where you guys like damn it yeah right easton just kind of took over and no i mean i don't know i don't know all that stuff but i remember like i used christian for the longest time like i was able to just like i would go over to the factory and just like grab a stick and like i could curve these things myself like i got to go in like you'd like put it and like i think it was like just like steam it up a bit and then put it in the presser and like you could wrench on these things and come out with just the biggest curve you could make and show up to the rank and be like, check on this curve.

Like it was pretty fun. And then obviously, like once those one pieces came out, like it was just game over and they just took off and that was it. There would always be that guy that had, he would come in with the ridiculous curve, but he just couldn't catch a back and pass and say it. I mean,

yeah, but it was so cool if you could raise that thing, like above the glass from like the other end. Like you could play the game golf, like it open hockey all the time and you'd kill it. Oh, that's amazing. Folks, the golf season is coming to an end. It's the perfect time to get your last rounds in.

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I mean, I mean, I'm partial to home for sure because, like, the access that we had and, like, being able, like, we could play 18 and, like, two and a half three hours like that'd be a slow round like coming to new york i remember the first couple of times like i went and played beth page and it's obviously unreal and like a sick course with like all the aura and like the majors that they've had and events that they posted like so so cool to be there but then it's like five and a half hours and by like whole 13 i'm like holy like yeah what's going what's going on here like the t-shea just slammed like it's so packed but uh i mean there's so many nice courses in new york it's like minnesota's got a couple nice ones but new york is just so much opportunity to play like top 100 course day after day after day which is unreal yeah new

yorks such an interesting place for golf and that if you have some access and connections it's the best golf in the world and if you have none it's it could be the worst possible to go play yeah it'd be the worst like i played eisenhower a few times and like showing up and trying to get a tea time it's crazy and then if you're like an out-of-state resident it's great even harder to get a tea time and then they jack the prices up like um but like if yeah if you have the access to the public court or the private courses. Like there's so many, like hidden gems that,

like, aren't even recognized, like, on a top 100 list, but they're still so unreal. Like, even Cherry Valley, like,

Cherry Valley is such a good course. Like, it's a half a mile from the men's club, which obviously is, like, one of the sickest. But,

like, there's so many like that all over the island, which is unreal. So, kind of, like, don't get this guy started

on Shinakak. This is where this whole debate between Shinnecock and Vue started. It's a text message to me and Brock, essentially saying, like, what, he brought up the,

the whole argument of like what do you basically golf course off of because I said you could take Shinnecock and put it in anyone's backyard you just need some fescue and flat land and he thought that was the most insane thing I said you can't build Pebble Beach anywhere else but Pebble Beach so that's where this whole debate came up that we went on this podcast

so I'd like to hear him try and voice that opinion again I think you said I side with Riggs on this don't you? You do yeah no Riggs is very much the golf course architecture yeah I mean I haven't been to like all the courses that like some of you guys have been like pinehurst and pebble and different ones like that and posse tempo and but i mean like schenekak like when i got to go out there and play like it was so

cool like so fun like such a nice day i just think like the whole grounds there like being able to see all the flag sticks like you're standing in one spot and you can see like you might even be able to see all the course but or or just under 16 17 holes i think that's so cool and then like the colors of like the grass and the fescue and the sun was set like the sunset like i think it's Like that view, I think, is unreal. Like, just as much as the water. Like, you get sucked in by, like, the ocean and the water, which is obviously unreal, too.

Like, Pell would be sick. I've never been. But, like, something about shit. You like that term that I get sucked in. I am a sucker for water. I'm a sucker for water. Yeah, you're not the only one. But they're both views.

Like, I think, like, Riggs, you've been to, you've been to shit in clock. Like, that's a view. Like, that's. Like, that's. Couldn't agree more. Like, the clubhouse. Yeah, exactly. The clubhouse serving is like this.

this North Star and beacon throughout the entire round. You can see it from everywhere and you're taking these iconic photos and videos of the flag sticks with the club outs behind it. Like to us, that is a view. Like that's a view also that's iconic and memorable and noticeable in the world of golf that like you can't get anywhere else. That was one of the coolest things too.

Like there was like two or three T shots like we'd be teed off like headed. Like it's cool how like they run out and back of like the clubhouse like you said. And then like you'd be coming back in like I think nine and the guy was like all right like start this one down. like the right chimney of the clubhouse and like kind of like faded in there for a left is like that's your line and like another hole too like then you then you're using the left chimney like I think just like that view is like unreal and then obviously like the the aura of like the majors and like seeing where like obviously you could you could go like shot by shot of like

tiger and like his round like when they play out there whoever wins like it's just so cool to be on grounds or like a big event like that has been played yeah it's funny that you say like the pinpoint thing because I remember one of the biggest takeaways from me at Liberty was when one of the guys was like, all right, on this part three, the Freedom Tower in the background is going to be your line. And you're like, what are you talking about? And then like you get up to the T-box, you're like, oh, yeah, like this skyline that I've grown up, like seeing like,

oh, all right, on this one, the Empire State Building, in between that and the Chrysler building, you want to be able to ship. It's like, what do you talk? Like, we're playing golf right now. It's crazy. It feels like I'm in a simulator. Yeah, it's unreal to, like, be able to play like that close to the city and be using, like, those markers, like those landmarks as lines.

Like, that's, like, that's sick. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And I'm like on a place like Shinnock, too, there is unknown or undiscussed topography and undulation and crazy. Like the tent hole where that green is, where you like tee off and it's pretty downhill. And then you got to hit uphill. And if you miss the green by an inch on the other side, it goes downhill again. Like that stuff is not just flat.

Like that stuff's awesome. Oh, it's unreal. And it like, it doesn't do it justice on TV. Like I remember like you could watch Tigers round. Like I remember before we play. We watched, like, Tigers highlights from when he played the last open there. And he was down in that spot short of the green on 10. And, like, it just looks like an absolute mountain.

But then, like, you get there and you're like, this thing is so, like, that's such a hard shot. Like, if you miss that, I think short and it rolls all the way back down. And then you have to stop it. Like, it's slope, like you said, like, it slopes, like, come, like, back to you and then away. Like, you have such a small landing spot. And the rolling hills of, like, the whole course, like, when you can see everything and just how it, like, lays out. It's unreal. Riggs and I were there on the 11th, I think, is that par three that we dropped the ball on the front.

And if, like, you literally, like, landed on the front edge of the green with a little backspin, like, it's coming, like, 50 or 75 yards down off the fall. All the way back down that fairway, yeah. Right. And then, like, and then from chipping there, I think you have to, like, go over a bunker to get a backup on the green. Like, it just puts you in different spots that you would never, like, ever want to be. Or from TV, certainly you lose all that. People say that about what you do, and I've never been there.

but like I just imagine the undulation there and I would love to see it because that stuff just doesn't come out in TV at all. Exactly, yeah. Like you can tell Augusta for sure has some crazy undulation. Then when you see it in person, it's probably another level like crazy.

Brock, we've talked about this four-man scramble a little bit. And, you know, I brought in some hype. I brought in some confidence on my end to start. I said that the four-man scramble on the Barstle side is undefeated. We've never lost a match. literally a professional golfer in that aspect. You then responded with the handicaps of the guys that you would bring from the islanders,

which is cow clutter bucks, like a plus one. You're what now? Like a five, eight or something like that? Where are you? Yeah, I think I'm a five. So then Everly's like around a five. And then while we got a couple guys. We lost one of our guys.

Yeah, we just lost one. Yeah. We got a few. We got a few guys that are right around there. But I mean, I think like stacking it up. For me, like, I love a scramble because I don't have to worry about getting it off the teeth. I got three other guys that can pipe it down. Like, that's the best part.

And then all of a sudden, like, you're hitting, you just get to hit a wedge in every time. Which is a nightmare. The problem that I have to remind myself is, like, these guys are professional athletes. And they kind of reminded me that in this, like, group chat. Like, Calcutta bucks, like, we're going to murder you. Like, there's no chance. Like, you have no chance because we're, you guys haven't played, like, you guys have just played a bunch of, like, musicians. Like, we are athletes and we play golf all the time.

The other thing that we have to remember, too, and I don't want to be like anti- Team 4 by here, but this guy... You do this every time. You've changed... I'll just say, you've changed it to a few times because I remember when you guys were playing Kisner T, like you're like, we're beating them for sure.

And then like the next year you're like, man, I don't think we can do it. And then like the day I'll be like, I think we can do it either. I was... I bet against you for sure. I'll openly, I'll admit that, but you guys proved them wrong.

You silenced it. Here's the point that I was going to say, though, is like this guy doesn't lose in anything, like any sort of like little game. I've played him in ping pong. I played him in cornhole. I played him in golf. I can't beat Brock Nelson in anything that I do.

We play PGA Tour 2K21. But he's just better than me and everything. So like I have this confidence like, all right, I'll come as a team. Like we're just going to lose because like that's what we do against these guys. They are just better than up. Like we're just going to lose.

You guys are two and oh. You guys will probably set up a few more matches in between too. but I think like scrambles are tough though because the margin for error is so small. Like you don't get like steam rolled out of it. Like you just make like with four guys, like birdies like birdies don't like win you holes. Yeah. I mean I think here's the thing is I don't like our individual skills in how good we are at those individual skills I think makes us better as a scramble team than our like handicapped.

So I like, you know what I'm saying? Like I think that it's it works out so perfectly for us that we are actually better than if you took the average like combined handicaps of most scrambles around the world. We would be better than that number because like ours work out perfectly where like we have a guy or two that drives the ball actually really well. We have a couple guys who actually hit their irons really well. Like we have like the ability to chip it close and make huge butts. And like that just we're I think we're better than. I'm coming back in again. Frank will be right back in.

I mean, that's, I mean, scramble suits Frankie's game for sure. He doesn't have to worry about hitting a chip shot. Like, he's got three other guys to back him up. I haven't made a putt yet for 2 and O. and I don't think I've put the ball on the hole yet. I don't think he has to either. Who's the anchor? Riggs is the anchor, right?

Yeah. On and around the green. Lurch, it's a lot of that putt on the first try. And then when he doesn't, Trent knocks it in. Like, I've never, and then if I, and then if they don't, I just miss. And then it's up to rigs to anchor it in. I've never once made a put ever. 36 tolls of competition.

How many shots? How many shots do you take in total? A lot of those two matches of yours. Quite a few off the tea. Quite a few off the tea. Definitely with Kisner. You were, it was you all that. Off the tea, off a tea, you're pretty, you're pretty solid.

You're pretty money. Yeah. Well, it's not for that. Yeah, scramble, well, that's the best part about it. Like you said, just a good mesh of guys and, like, I do, ride those momentums. I do think, like, hockey guys can chirp. They, like, locker room, the locker room crew,

being around that, you guys' whole lives. So the chirpiness in that match would be off the truck. Oh, you can be a couple. I think it would be a, I think it would be a couple, yeah. But, I mean, like, when you and I play, like, there's not a lot of chirping going on, other than when you tear my bottom of water. Yeah, there's not a lot because I think we have a pretty,

even game. I mean, there, there's been some chippy moments where, like, we get serious, like a whole 13 or 14, where you just look at me and I'm like, don't even make eye contact with me right now. I'm in the midst of blowing a massive lead and you're laughing at me. It's crazy. I don't laugh at you, but I know, like, just even the little look, like, when I get, like, on a roll and, like, get a couple back, like, get it close or, like, you can start to see you squirming and get nervous. And all as it takes is, like, a look. And then, and then you're just flustered. Dude, the part of them being for professional athletes cannot be undersold. Like, that's such a different, like a few years ago, I was security guard a few years ago.

Frankie was working at a pizza place like a couple of years ago. Like, these guys are, you guys have been the best at your sport, like your entire lives. And that comes with such a confidence that we simply are not able to activate. It's so different. But golf is so much different. Like, golf is a different sport too. Thank you. Like golf, like I said earlier, like it doesn't matter how it looks.

Like you don't have to be like the super athletic guy. Like you could be at golf. Like I played with a guy yesterday out at Wizzetta and like he just kind of like whole hum shot like 300. I don't know anything about him. But like he's just like he's just good at golf. But like you would never like you see this guy. Like I walked up and I was like, all right, like is this guy like a player? And all of a sudden we get out there and it's like birdie, birdie, birdie start.

And you're like holy like every shot, every shot. Like there's just like no, there's no fear or worry. Like he just knows like every, every T shot is just like a little fade. And then like his wedges, like his distances are just spot on. And then like he was, he was raining putts from everywhere. Well, that's the thing. I mean, like if we play a bunch of two handicaps and a scramble, we're going to lose the match. So if you show up with yourself and then a bunch of other twos, like you're just better.

So your range of miss is better and like everything's better. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're going to win. But yeah, to the effect of like good. And it's exhausting playing against the guy that you played against that is so elite. Because I feel like when my game's good and I'm hitting greens, sometimes I look at that guy.

I'm like, dude, if this is his regular game, like I'm eventually going to fade here. If he can just keep. Well, that's probably, like, I mean, the, like, if you get a bunch of twos together and a scramble, like, they're still, they're still only making buries. Like, they're not, they're not going to be, like, holy, they're not holing out. Like, they're better for sure. But, like, are they going to hold out? maybe a slight chance, but not like three, four times, like outrageous to like where you guys can't

compete. Like you got four guys, four attempts on a 390 yard part four. Like you guys are probably going to make Bertie a good percentage of that time and be right there. I agree. I agree. I like our chances. I think we're better than people still give us credit for. I agree with that. I think our team is the best because Frankie is off the tee. I hit irons, rigs chips, Trent Puts. And like, you guys beat one of the best golfers in the world. Like, that's pretty sick. It's pretty sick.

I'm back on team four play. I mean, I think there's no chance. Granted, granted he was a one-man team, but, like, still, that's still unreal. How many, like, you're the only four people I can say you beat Kevin Kisner or Scramble. There's no, there's no, there's no, we got to get into this because there's no denying that I'm a New York Islanders fan. And, I mean, people on this podcast have heard. So we're talking to you.

You've been on the team since 2013. You're a veteran at this point. What's it been like? I mean, how does that feel? I mean, what are you, 20, how old are you? 29. 29 tomorrow, actually. Oh.

Wow. Happy birthday. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. 28. Yeah, it's been a crazy ride. I mean, never would you have ever imagined. Like, growing up, like, where I did.

Like, I always dreamed of playing, like, professional, like, hockey and making it to the NHL and doing well. well, but then, like, to be able now to say that, like, I've played in New York and Long Island for seven years, like, with the team for eight years, like, that's pretty, pretty cool. Like, something like looking back on, like, crazy ride, like lots of memories, like lots of different things have happened in life events. So pretty cool and fortunate to have that. And it's, I don't know, just letting it out.

It's a small town kid. It's pretty cool. It's awesome. Yeah, I love hearing that. Because also, like, you've been in, like, you've been in such a transition period. of the Islanders. Like my whole life was pretty like, you know, they had like that Sean Bates goal against Toronto, but like I was super young.

And obviously I missed like the dynasty years. But there was a time where the Islanders like, I'd go to games and nothing's happening. Nothing's happening. Now you're on, you've been here for this core stretch of like building up to something. And that's got to be so much fun that like you're a part of a team that's changing what the island like playing for the Islanders means. Like I texted you guys that after you guys, um, we're in the Eastern Conference finals. I was like, you now have changed what it means for an Islander's team to play in the

playoff. Like, we actually have a chance now to do stuff. And that's got to be fucking awesome to be on a team like that. Yeah, I mean, it was like this year was crazy. Like the run was crazy. Obviously, super weird year with how everything went out. But, yeah, I mean, it's such a great spot. Like, the history of the team speaks for itself, like, back in the glory days and, like,

they win four cups. Like, everybody wants to win a cup and, like, be cemented in, like, that history and tradition. So we have a great group. great group of guys and good organization right now, it's headed in the right direction, and hopefully we're close. Obviously, this year we were. So moving before we want to build on that and see what happens. But, I mean, it's such a great spot.

Yeah. How'd the bubble, do the bubble feel any different playing play and play? I mean, you've played playoff hockey before. Does the bubble hockey feel any different? Or for you guys, was it? I mean, this is playoff hockey. This is what it is. I mean, a little bit of bubble.

I think it was different for sure. no fans was crazy but I mean given the circumstances you didn't really like what was what was really the alternative to but uh it was I think everybody made the most of it um and it got heated out there I mean it was intense like guys like almost in a way I've said it to a couple people where like no fans like you can hear the chirps and like the benches and on a whole other level that you don't normally hear like obviously there's a lot of chirping in hockey all the time but with no fans you can kind of hear a bit more of it so uh it was still it was still heated and good good hockey I thought and who knows how many times we'll play in a bubble.

It might be the only time. So it's pretty unique and something looked back on. Like something that was so unique as a fan was that the first thing you heard when somebody scored was the actual players yelling. Yeah, like on TV, it was crazy. Yeah, right? Like it's cool for like everybody, like fans and to like kind of see that. Because obviously like when normal building like sellout, like you don't hear anything.

Obviously that part of it's cool too. Like you miss that. You miss the chills, the adrenaline, like the rush, the momentum. all that wasn't the same, but like being able to hear the guys, like, kind of like miced up or whatever they were, like just picked up on another mic. Like that was pretty cool too, I think. Yeah. A lot of people, a lot of people always asked too.

Like, oh, what are like, what are you guys saying down there? Then I think they got to hear a little bit of it. I'm sure, like, some of it wasn't all on there. Like, I'm sure they did a pretty good job of taking some of stuff out. Well, there's some funny things where you would never realize it got picked up on some mics where, like, a guy would be coming in to hit a guy in the corner and he'd be like, I'm on your left. like he's actually allowing the guy like on the other team to know that he's just coming after him, which is almost like, wait, these guys like kind of help each other out.

But it's like, it's like in good nature to let a guy know. Yeah, I think it's just part. Yeah, like you don't want to come in and just like blow the guy out without like, I don't know. I mean, there's some there's some guys that might in just like different scenarios. But if you know guys in a bad spot, like you're letting him know like somebody's coming. Like that's just part of even like guys from the bench are screaming like crazy. So I mean, everybody's out there trying to. to give a little warning for things like that.

It is cool how much communication is involved, again, because you never get to hear any of it. And like you were just saying, like, guys are alerting. If the guy's got his back turned, you know, he's fishing out a puck after somebody dumped one in, a D man's going back. Like, the guys on the bench are screaming. Like, guy on you're right,

because you're trying to get eyes and ears that you don't have. And again, you never get to hear any of that as a fan. Yeah, and I think that's part of a team. too, like a lot of people don't understand. Like, there's plays, too, where, like, guys make a play, like, behind. Like, it's, like, you can just hear the guy. Like, it's communication that, like, sets it apart. Like, some guys, like, how did he see that guy?

It's, like, he knew the general vicinity, and then, like, he hears the guy. And, like, same thing with, like, hits. And the refs even help out, too. Like, the refs will give you, like, a little bit of heads up. Like, if you're trying to pick something up and they're, like, the linesmen are on the wall, like, they don't want to get hit. Like, they're, like, they're letting you know they're there. Like I feel bad for those guys when they have to take one of those dump-ins,

like somebody rips a slap shot off the leg. Yeah. They have pads on, but I mean, they don't want to get hit. It's amazing, too, how much direction the goalies have. Like, they're talking to their D-Men all the time when they're going back because they're the one that stand there just looking at everything coming at them. Yeah, they can see everything. Yeah, they can see everything.

So, like, you can always hear, like, whoever's in that, like, Marley, Grace, or, like, other goalies, too. like they're always screaming like if it's an all-band rush like trying to let guys know just to give them a heads-ups like they don't have to waste time like turning around I'll never forget one time I was playing goalie and my defenseman was actually deaf in his right ear and I was saying man on man on man on and then he couldn't hear anything coming out of this side no we played on the other he got absolutely steamrolled into the boards puck actually we were playing this team and one of the guys actually went pro yandle and he got the puck at the top of and he put a slap shot over my left shoulder and then went down straight dice and goes right fire bench and goes you can't handle gandle and literally that was three to but i never i felt so

bad for the kid because i was like man on man on man on and then some kid just absolutely blew his world up where he was like that's tough yeah i'm sure it wasn't the first time i happen to him too because i mean that's no it's because he can't i mean he can't hear Yeah, he couldn't hear out of that side and not to be loud enough, but I didn't get the message to him, and then he got absolutely uncorked. And then my world got lit up by Yandle about eight seconds later.

Oh, you couldn't handle the handle it? No, I went down at a big butterfly. That's so good. And he just, he goes, you can't handle Yandel after he just beats us three, two. Windmill? 30 seconds, yeah. He was on one knee, scraping ice,

going by our bench and goes, you can't handle y'amble. And we couldn't. That's like the NHL game where you can just celebrate forever. NHL people, you can just go back to the middle of the ice. Orageous. Then you'd, like, grab your buddy's controller and be like, stop fucking doing that. Yeah.

That's what forces the rage quits online. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man. Do you guys play a lot of golf on the road? Like, are you guys ever able to get out on the road? Or are you pretty locked up? Not really. The schedule, like, we're not there, like, those other sports, like sometimes.

like baseball football like if they're there for a few days like they could probably shipstick their clubs and go out and play a few times like we we're usually like in and out or back-to-backs like the travel it's just probably too hard like there might be like the occasional time where you get a few days off like somewhere warm that's the other thing too like you don't know when you're going to play in summer warm like you could be playing there freezing so the schedule too like usually practices whatnot a little hard but if you have the opportunity to try and make it work The NHL schedule is insane. I mean, you always hear that it's a sport that's just an absolute grind,

but even like getting to know you guys a little bit, it's like when you guys have a day off, you have like a couple hours and then you're right back into it. It's like those days off seem like once every couple months. And it's like the way it's scheduled, you're in Calgary, you're in Tampa, then you're back and then you go on that West Coast trip where it's like Vegas, St. Louis, it's like nonstop hotels grinding. Even when you're home, it's practice.

It's crazy. I just say, yeah, practice. Even sometimes, like, those days off, like, a couple of times, like, we've come home from the West Coast. You get home, like, five, six in the morning. Like, the next day is a day off. It's like, you're so tired. Like, you can't do anything but sleep and just, like, lounge. Like, you just, it's, you have to.

It's crazy, man. It's crazy. It's a crazy life. But it doesn't seem like a bad one. No, it's definitely, yeah, it's definitely great. So you're, I mean, you're October 14th. You probably have what, like another week or two of golf here in Minnesota, maybe if you're lucky. Maybe.

Maybe. Played yesterday, it was like 60 with a little bit of wind, and it probably felt like low 50s. And now today it's like 55 with a win. So the next few days don't look promising for a tea time. I know my buddy just put a lottery in for Saturday. We're hopeful. And I just looked, it was 50 with the low of like 28 at night. So I was, I'm not too optimistic about playing anymore golf.

But if there's one nice day, I wouldn't mind going out. When Riggs's at Aaron Hills right night, he said it's starting to get a little chilly. Oh, yeah. Aaron Hills can't be that far from here. No, it's extremely chilly. But, I mean, when you're here, you're going to, what are you going to not? Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's what we were playing yesterday.

Like, it's still worth it. Like, you put a couple long sleeves on and, like, a hat and make it work. I remember, like, growing up in high school golf, like, Minnesota High School Golf was a spring sport, which is, like, the worst, like, doesn't make sense. It should be a fall sport. Courses are a better shape. The weather's far better. far more consistent.

Yeah. Like there was a couple times where we'd go, and like small town, we'd have to drive two, three hours, so we'd leave at five in the morning, get there at tea time, like shotgun start at 9, and all of a sudden at like 10.30,

it's snowing. Like, you're four holes in and they're calling everybody off the course. Like, guys are putting and it would just turn into a snowball. Like, you just can't play golf. You make war roads sound like the, like above the, like above the wall or something.

Yeah. Beyond the wall. It's north of the wall. yeah yeah like as if like um as if like cattle drove you guys like like rode you guys to that golf match like your high school team like i i picture like cattle and wooden wooden like basically um what's like what the amish country like that's what like that's just nothing going i mean back in the day back in the day that's probably how they did it we we got six guys stuffed into a suburban for three three and a half hour trips to go play these courses around minnesota i mean it's it's it's a

hike to get up there. Yeah, like I'm from, I'm from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and I think what people think where I'm from is actually where you're from. That's what people think of West. Oddly, I respect where he's from more than I respect where you're from. I don't know if that's because he's Brock Nelson and your trend ride, but I like the idea of war road. I like that page and I like that idea of War Road, Minnesota. I mean, that just sounds like you're ready to go into battle. I was going to say, it just sounds good. Yeah, war road. I think it actually was a war road back in the day, like Native American history. incredible.

Cedar Rapids, I'm going to go down a water tube. I'm going to say it has something to do with Brock Nelson and Trent Ryan. I think that might be part. How about Aaron Hills, it says on Saturday, so I'm playing tomorrow morning Thursday. I'm going to film every shot and make a video.

And then Saturday, it says rain and snow showers in the morning. Yep. Yep. That sounds about right for this area right now. Top. I appreciate you. Well, he's obviously going to grind it up.

Riggs will play in 12-degree weather, and that's just the way he is. I'm very much opposite. I'm a prima donna when it comes to it. As long as you're geared up. I'll go back home. Geared up and walk. If you're walking, you stay a lot warmer. The only thing it gives you is the excuse.

You have like the swing excuses. It's not forgiving. I have no way. It's too restrictive. I would like that one. You top one up the first tee. Too restrictive. Let me wait until they take a layer up.

Yeah, but the best part is like somebody can always just say, no, but like people have hit good shots with these clothes off. So like it can't be like people have just done it before. All right, Brock. That's very true. I try and look for every, I try and look for every excuse I possibly can. But is it a hockey net? I appreciate you coming on here, Brock.

Yeah, I tried to do a whole, I tried to do a buffet of bits. We have a hockey net here. So I'm like, what room am I going to go in? So I went into the hockey room. you respect that or no i respect that yeah fair you look less yeah i appreciate that a little weird yeah it's that's like you have choices of rooms and like there's one room

that has a hockey net in it in it and we're interviewing brock nelson so like why wouldn't i go in this room but like if we're gonna have alfonzo rivero on do you have like a camera behind you that because he's like an act no but like i i don't know i just thought like this here's the thing we i usually will be in this room And there's three rooms here And I was like walking

I actually kicked someone out of this room They were in a very important meeting I said I need the I need the hockey net In the background I'm like why It's a whole little thing buffet of bits That's You're very much your dad in those moments That's what it is

Borelli You are That is very true That is very true I'm probably gonna turn into them But anyway Brock I appreciate you coming on here For a long time coming

Yeah I think Yeah. Thanks, guys. I think the next time we have you, we'll have to be in a video form and we do the four-minute scramble and people have to see that the big banana slice

that you hit off the tea and the way that you just... Oh, it's a hook. It's more of a hook. Oh, yeah, it's the hook. And then the way that you're just scrambling around out of the thick rough and you still beating people with birdies and shooting 75 when you didn't hit a fair week

for the whole day. So I can't wait for people to see that game. Yeah. It's a treat to watch. It really is. Well, thanks again, man. and enjoy the rest of the time off here. You have a lot of well-deserved time off after a great season. Yeah, thank you.

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joined by a new winner on the LPGA tour, the 2020 ShopRite LPG. classic champion winner, Mel Reed, how good does that feel after, you know, 13 years or so playing professional golf? It felt pretty good. I feel like I've been an overnight success for about 15 years. So, yeah, it was good to get it done and we had a good celebration afterwards. And yeah, it was a good moment of like all my mates coming out and stuff like that. That kind of meant everything to me. So it was a, yeah, it was a fun little ride. it was uh it was fun to watch jerry folds who's one of uh one of our favorites and i met him for the first time where were we in like oklahoma at a long drive or

something a few years ago and yeah i saw that that he tweeted out and he said most popular victory in ages on the lpgia so how does i mean how does that feel to have sort of it it called that popular and know that your peers are that happening for you yeah i mean it's pretty sick uh fultz he's a good good boy um yeah i've had a few drinks with them a few times more than I should have done probably over the years. But yeah, he's a great guy. And yeah, I mean, it was just, I mean, what a compliment, really. Yeah, I mean, it was this cool.

I just like, just the amount of messages, like it was kind of overwhelming, really. I kind of had no idea. And yeah, my dad's, my dad never calls me. And he's called me about three times since it. So he's happy as well. But so he said I've made him famous in Darby, which I didn't think, he could have got more famous. But, yeah, so yeah, it just a pretty, you know,

what a cool thing to do. And yeah, just the amount of people of the messaging was awesome. So speaking of messages, we've got to talk about this Twitter troll story, which is one of my absolute favorites because, you know, I mean, professional athletes all use social media in different ways.

Some of it's clearly run by other people. Some of it's run by you guys. Tell me about the Twitter troll situation and how it's sort of factored in on Saturday and Sunday with the shop right. Are you talking about the guy that said I've chose? Yeah. Yeah.

So I don't know why. I shouldn't really read my phone kind of before a tournament, but I was just looking through and everyone was being like obviously really nice. And then I just saw that one saying she'll choke it again. And it kind of gave me a bit more incentive. I kind of had a chip on my shoulder then. So, yeah, I really enjoyed replying to him. I was going to put something a bit more aggressive,

but I thought I've only got myself in trouble. So I better be a little bit polite. But yeah, I mean, I love that kind of stuff. You know, everyone's entitled to their opinion. And to prove people wrong is what I enjoyed. doing so it was fun. That's good that you can channel that energy into something positive because there are some people out there who can't. Some athletes who would see that and it would be in their head the whole time and then they would choke. So for you to be able to channel that positively,

you might be one of the few athletes who should be looking at social media just to give yourself fuel for Victor. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I quite like obviously there are some trolling like that you don't, the comments that you don't enjoy, but I'm pretty fortunate. I don't really get too many of them. But yeah, I just, I enjoyed reading it, honestly. I was like, I just wanted to prove, I like proving people wrong. So, yeah, I enjoyed it. I definitely used it to my advantage, and I appreciate the tweet from him, and whoever it was. I was actually incredibly jealous of it because, like, we get endless shit online, but it's, like, we also suck at golf.

So when people chirp us all the time, we never get a proven wrong opportunity. Like, never. Like, what are we going to be like, oh, we got a cool podcast guest? It's like, dunk. we just can't, there's no chance for us to ever dunk on somebody. So to see you actually scroll through, read something like that, and then be sort of have the mind afterwards to be like, oh yeah, remember that fucking guy?

I'm going to marry him right now. I loved it. I thought it was amazing. Yeah, I just love that kind of stuff. Like, I love just proving people wrong. And yeah, yeah, I should probably reach out to him and say, thank you. I don't know. Maybe I will.

So afterwards, I, uh, I understand. you may have gotten in a little trouble for the celebration or something along those lines? I mean, it wouldn't have been me if I didn't get in trouble. But yeah, we went to, like, there's actually a really sick pub. It's literally by the 18th Green. It's probably one of the best, like, pubs kind of pub stops on tour. Like, it's called McGettigans. And, I mean, winning there, you can't not go to McGettigans. Like, it's just, and the guy was also the guy who owned it, Tim. He kind of shut the whole place down, so it was just us. But yeah, the commissioner got in touch with me And I was like, get out.

You're going to get yourself in trouble. But I'd already got myself in trouble. So it was worth it. I mean, I'm not going to not celebrate. It's not really my style. So, you know, I've been waiting a long time for it. And I was going to celebrate properly. And my caddy was celebrating pretty hard.

He was over there right now, but he literally couldn't move. I walked outside at one point. He was like, crawled over. I was like, you need to go to bed. Des. Like, you need to go to bed. So he celebrated pretty. I was hurt the next day, big time.

Yeah, it took him a few days to recover, probably. A few days. Yeah, he's a trooper, though. He just got right. back on the horse that you does. So, yeah, he was a typical caddy. I mean,

they're different species. So, yeah, they're just different guys. We do, we love talking about caddies at tournaments because it's such a different experience.

Like, they're doing the same travel and going to the same places, except, I mean, they're not, like, they're not playing in the tournament.

So I feel like caddies really just let loose. And getting those stories is oftentimes more exciting because they can just go crazy. Yeah, like I enjoy hanging out with the boys, like the caddies, I find them, you know, obviously apart from, like,

my set of mates, I find them way more interesting than the players because they're just like to shoot the shit and that they're just like laid back and they obviously love a beer and stuff, which, you know, I obviously don't really drink when I'm at a tournament, but it's just fun to just be around like, like, they don't really talk about golf that much. Like it's, yeah, they're just fun people to hang out with like some of my best mates of caddies. So, yeah, I enjoy hanging out with the boys. What went into that trophy? What would we fill that?

Anything wet and alcohol. We started off with Yingling. I think Des put a fireball in there, which probably wasn't the best thing for him to do. But yeah, we filled it up a couple times. We got a few drinks out of it. It was good. So I understand during the COVID break that you became pretty tight with Brooks Kepka. Is that right?

Yeah. Well, I mean, not tight. We played a lot of golf together. He's a cool dude. Like, I was always like a bit of a fan of him anyway. I liked his approach to things. I like the way that he talked. Like, I think that it's healthy for the game.

And, yeah, we both play at the Floridian and Claude introduced us. And, yeah, we played a lot of money games together, like, kind of during COVID. So, yeah, it was pretty sweet. He's a good guy. How do those games go? Who got the better or who out there? I took money up him a couple times, for sure. But, yeah, I mean, he's just cool to play with.

Like, he just, like I said, he likes to shoot the shit, and he just, obviously, he's a great player. And yeah, and we just, like, would talk about stuff. Like, I would talk a little bit on the mental side, and he helped me a little bit with that. And, yeah, he's just a cool guy to play golf with, honestly. He's just laid back and, yeah, he's just a pleasure to play with. What did he say about the mental side? Because I feel like he's of this belief, definitely, that he's got this mental advantage over almost everyone, which, I mean, he's got four majors in the last couple of years, so he's probably right on that.

But what did he, like, where does that conversation go when he tells you about the mental approach? he's like, you know, you should, you know, when people say you can't do so, if you should prove them wrong, which I guess is where that tweet came from. And he's just like, you know, don't care what other people think. And he's also like, you know, if you hit bad shots, see as an opportunity, like, you know, see it's an opportunity to show off. And, you know, you want to be in these positions. Like, don't be scared of it. And just kind of stuff like that. I mean, obviously I respect the guy a lot. Like, he's obviously achieved, you know, an incredible amount. And so, yeah, it's just cool to get his insight to things. So I think he's one of the mentally, like, strongest guys out there for sure. Were you ever there like assisting him with any of his trolling of Bryson or Brandel while all of that was going on? We had a couple conversations about it, but yeah, he's not a big fan of Brandel at all. But yeah, I mean, I like that stuff. I think, you know, I like the fact he voices his opinion.

Like, I like that. I think that, you know, makes him real, makes him raw and, you know, authentic. And that's kind of what I try and do. And even though it probably does get me in trouble sometimes, but I think it's important to be, you know, who you are and authentic. Yeah, he's a good dude. It's so true about the game of golf because it's so, yeah, it's so protected and everyone's rooting for everyone. In reality, it's like, that's not true.

There's no way that everyone, if you took 100 random people, right, and just put them in the same place for a week or the same profession for a year, like those people wouldn't all get along. They just wouldn't. They'd have different personalities, conflicting. Not to mention the nature of golf is like, you guys are all competing, really for each other's money and prestige and legacy. So the whole concept,

I love when someone like Brooks and like when you were able to sort of speak your mind, you're right. It's so good for the game of golf and I wish we got it more off. A hundred percent. Like you just get the standard, you know, media questions and you get the standard answers from 99% of golfers. Yeah, I mean, I think I'm a little bit different. Like, I grew up playing team sports and, you know,

my whole life has never, you know, it's not always been golf. Like I've, I still snowboards, still, you know, try and do other stuff. And, you know, I feel like he's kind of the same. That's kind of where I felt like we would, like, I kind of knew that we would get on because I feel like he's very similar to that. He's not the standard typical golfer, you know. And I kind of feel like I'm the same.

So, yeah, it's just, yeah, we need more people like that in the game, if I'm completely honest. Yeah, I agree. I definitely agree. That's why even when anybody speaks their mind in the world of golf, and they get negative feedback because people don't like what they said. I think it's such a shitty result for golf because it then discourages, you know, any other player or anybody else with a platform to just not do it.

And that's, I think that's just bad for the game. Yeah, I think a lot of people, you know, in the girls and the guys game, like they don't voice their opinion because they're almost scared of the reaction they're going to get. Yeah. So, I mean, I would love people to voice their opinion more. I think it's, like you said, I think it's great for the game as well. They need more, you know, more personalities and more voices to, you know, get things changing, I guess. You mentioned snowboarding.

Is there any connection between the two snowboarding golf? Because to me, it seems like there couldn't be two more opposite activities. One being like, just stay alive going down this mountain. It's going fast. Like, I mean, to me, like, going down a mountain on a piece of plastic is insane to me. And then golf is slow, right? It's like, let's just like have tempo. Let's take our time.

Let's be relaxed. How do you have the connection there, polar ice? It's weird. I kind of see snowboarding as like my drug. Like I have to go like once a year. Just it's where, I don't know, I just, I don't know, it sounds weird. It's fine peace. Like I love going fast.

I love doing like little, you know, kit off kicks and stuff. But I mean, it is very different. You're kind of using the same muscles though. Like, you know, you're using a lot of like lower, lower body stuff, a lot of glutes, a lot of abs. Yeah, I mean, I'd probably drink too much when I snowboard. So that probably did. My abs definitely does. don't come into action there.

But yeah, I mean, it is completely opposite. Maybe that's why I love it so much. Like, I just love going fast and, yeah. I'd love to see Frankie on a snowboard. That would be the opposite of people. You would die. You would be guaranteed to die. I went snowboarding once, and it's almost like learning how to golf at Augusta National.

Like, I learned how to snowboard at Keystone Mountain in Colorado. It's like the most beautiful mountain. here and everyone's like oh yeah just like go down this mountain i'm like can we is there a bunny like what is there a hospital at the bottom for me when i get to the bottom because i can we go start at the park like it's crazy they're like just strap these things on there and go down it's a it's a wild activity man it's literally surviving it's just like how can we not die up here well anything surviving if you just have no control on what you're not you didn't have your driver's license and someone was just like no no you've never drove before but why don't you go in this car and go on the highway or the

auto bond and just see how you make it. That would be just pure survival. And what do they call it an Opresque? Is that the drink up time? Yeah, Atpreyski, yeah. It's an absolutely must in our family. It is. Yeah.

A little whiskey or something like that. Oh, yeah. Hot chocolate with room, yeah. Yeah, we go pretty hard as a family. So, I mean, we're British. It can be pure survival after a few drinks if there's, if you're at the top of the mountain or something like that. And then you have a few drinks and you're like,

all right, last run, everybody. And then it's just get me to the bottom, please. That's why I don't understand all these people that get high as a kite when they go snowboard and you're skiing. I'm like, we're doing an extremely dangerous activity here where people lose their lives all the time. You're just going to fuck up your brain and go flying down a mountain. It's insane. It's crazy. There is no cooler look in the world in the world than a snowboarder, though.

The baggy clothes. Agreed. Yeah. Just carrying the board. Yeah. Oh, man. I just want to walk around town with those guys. on top of my head.

All the gear, no idea, exactly. Oh, man. There you go. That would be your thing. You'd be the snowboarder who never snowboards. You just walk around the mountain with the board and the goggles on. You just like act like you know what you're doing. I can't even imagine what outfit you would show up with snowboarding because this guy,

whenever he goes to an occasion, he just dresses like outside of himself now. He wore a collarless shirt with a suit to a wedding. He wore a visor and a full bubble watson button up when we had a big golf match. He just kind of. Yeah, yeah. I promise I'm not getting red right now. Something's wrong with my camera. I don't know.

It's, I'm not embarrassed right now, but I swear there's something wrong with this damn camera. It's red. I'm like in a red filter. Go on. I will say that the, I don't typically love whiskey or Jameson shots, but when you are skiing or snowboarding,

it's the best because you're cold and it actually gives you a little warm up. You see, we do Yeagermeisters. You know, the little ones? so you like and twist this thick it on your nose and then you grab it with your teeth and that's how you do a shot of yeah you go where yeah that's what we've always done

as a family since I was about five years old so it's just a different culture I'm jealous yeah it's pretty cool it's good fun is your team ever like freak out like your manager or age are they freaking out

every time you're out there snowboarding that you're going to go I mean well cassette my new manager she's not had the experience of me going away for a week to snowboard so I'm sure she'll probably fret a little bit then but I had it in my contract because they didn't want me to do it

and I put it in like my life insurance or something so I'm covered if anything happens to me so yeah do you think we're like really soft do you think Americans are like the softest people like you're like you're so aggressive and so badass and you're taking shots the five years old like that's just so

that's such a different life than I'm it's so weird because like when I first moved here like obviously I'd been to America a thousand times, but when I first moved here and started drinking with all the boys, like, your beer to me is so weak. So I would just, they thought I was a legend, which is not the case, like, because I could just out drink them. But I'm like, where I'm from? We drink like, you know, five, six, seven percent beers. So my tolerance has gone down a little bit. Like, when I go home, I struggle for the first, you know, week or so. But I get right back on the horse

again, so we're all good. Man, you drink me under the table, man. I'd have my one or two bud like that'd be burping in the corner you just looking at me like what a loser what a loser with your eyes are on yeah oh it's so good it is like it's incredible that we allowed it to become our thing that we just drink weaker beer than everyone else like why did we we advertise it like everything's like sell more I'm sure just so they could sell a hundred more beer so you'd have to buy more if it's lesser alcohol alcohol also we're obese so it's like you couldn't keep like, you couldn't keep, like, advertising

the heaviest, thickest beer in the world where, like, we need people to start losing weight. We're the most obese country in the world that only drinks light beer. What do we do it? Drink a light beer, but then drown your turkey and gravy. Exactly. What do we?

We are pro-America, by the. Yeah. I know. I'm not a pro-America, yeah. Just to make that clear. What else? So I want to talk about, we've been getting hyped up for the Masters, this is November Masters. You guys have a December U.S. Open. How bizarre and weird is that? It's pretty weird. Like, our season doesn't finish until, like, CME is 20th of December.

So our season is obviously pretty late, but I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be good. Like, I enjoy the cold weather. Like, a lot of girls don't like it, which I think plays to the advantage of players that do like it. So, yeah, we'll see. It's going to be different for sure. Who are your, who are, like, your girls on tour? We got, we had Bronte Law on the show. I know she's England. Yeah, she's one of my girls.

She's one of my girls. I hang out with Carlotta quite a lot. And yeah, the boys mainly, honestly. Like, I stay in a cop with me and Colotta stayed together quite a lot of weeks. I used to stay with Laura a bunch, but she doesn't really play much over here anymore. Laura Davies. So it would be like me, her, and literally like five caddies with us, which was pretty fun. So, but yeah, yeah, I don't know.

I get on with most people, honestly. There's not really many people I don't like, so I try to stay friendly. As long as they drink, you guys are friends. Yeah, I mean, if they drink, then I'm probably going to be friends with them, yeah. Like a bunch of my mates have left, like Walshie and Conkla, you know, like they're pretty hard. Partiers, and, yeah, we miss having them on tour for sure. They definitely bring a bit of personalities to the game. How about Bratty's shoe game?

I'll never forget when she showed up. Dude, her shoe game. So she turns up in like these, I can't even say what they are, some designer $2,000 shoes. She looked like she's been to move. Valenciagos or something like that. Valenciagis? Yeah, I'm like, what are they? She's like, these are trendy, bro.

Like these are, you know, $2,000 shoes. I'm like, they are the most disgusting things I've ever seen in their life. It made it, I think she wore them just to make herself taller, honestly, because they had like a four-inch wedge on them. So, I don't know, they're not my style, but she rocks in. I didn't know anything about them either, and I thought they were just like new balances. I mean, I had no clue. And people in our office, we have like kicks in the office.

We kind of have like sneakerhead shoe. They were, they had, as soon as we finished the interview, they came out with this contraption and got like a 360 view of her shoes. And it was the talk of the hand. Oh, yeah. I was like, they just look like, okay, I'm not a big shoe person, clearly. No. I mean, she, yeah, I mean, she's not my style, but like she rocks it. Like she wears, yeah.

if it's expensive bronzi likes it so so speaking of that like what's what's the big purchase with the winners check anything big or you just you keep no no my girlfriend's a bit tight on me spending money so um she's basically selling not allowed to buy anything i've convinced her to get a new sofa um but yeah nothing exciting i usually i'm a complete asshole with with when i do well i usually go and buy something ridiculous so um i'm sure i can't think of something that I'm going to buy. But no, just a new TV, new sofa, pretty boring things now. I'm in my 30s.

What was the craziest thing you've bought after, like, a win? Oh, I bought a hot tub once and used to like once. Which was so stupid. That's such a, we just won. We're drunk and what do we need? Yeah. You're just sitting in the back and I literally was. Hot tub.

I literally went with my mate. My mate came with me and was like, well, we just went to, like, this garden store. I went to get, like, a chair or something. And she's like, dude, look at this. hot tub, I was like, I need that in my life right now. And I just bought it. It was the most ridiculous. My sister's got it now. Like, it's just the most ridiculous thing I bought. Just hot water and a little square. Yeah, exactly. It can only fit like three people in it. It's tiny. But I thought, yeah, I thought I was a legend to sitting in there with my champagne. But

yeah, we used it once. Stupid. All right. Well, look, we really appreciate you joining us. This is a lot of fun. Like I said, it is very, very popular. We have. So keep it up. Good luck the rest of the way, going into the fact that there's still, you know, a U.S. Open and a lot to be played for. So hopefully you got a good amount of momentum. And again, we really appreciate the time. I appreciate. Thank you so much.

It was fun. Absolutely. Have you. Absolutely. Have a good idea of you having a few drinks with Frankie at the top of a mountain and snowboarding down. Yeah. Yeah, we can work that. I'll teach him a few traits.

Yeah. Thanks, ma. Thank you so much. Thank you, guys. You're welcome. Have a good one.