Fore Play - Bryson is Bursting, and we played Cypress...

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

DeChambeau wins for the first time since transforming into a jacked, monster-drive hitting machine, and did it while sounding off on a camera operator for operating a camera and damaging Bryson’s �...�brand.” We weigh in on everything Bryson, on Kiz’s solo 3rd, and more. We also recap our 4th of July weeks including Riggs and Lurch playing Cypress Point for the first time, Frankie releasing a Knives Creek teaser, and Trent’s NYC apartment air conditioning breaking during a record heatwave!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Fourth of July weekend, I hope everybody had a lovely weekend. It was great on the golf front. We got a ton to talk about Bryson D. Chambot, obviously dominating headlines yet again, something that we've been touting for weeks now since the return. We have a lot to break down from his win to his antics with a cameraman, to him bombing golf balls, to Kisner with a third place finish.
Starting point is 00:00:31 There's a lot to get to on that front. I want to hear how everybody's weekends were. How were your weekends? How was everybody's Fourth of July? Good? Yeah, it was good. It was good to be with some family and sit in the backyard and go on the pool, play a little golf. Nice relaxing Fourth of July weekend.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I really enjoyed it. D drank a lot of ice cold beverages. Got a little sunburned. All the things you should be doing on Fourth of July. Watch the fireworks. I got a fight with a stuff. I'm so sunburn right now. I mean, a great weekend playing golf, hanging out.
Starting point is 00:01:04 But I'm not sure if anybody's ever got sunburn on their bottom lip because it is maybe the worst. I thought the top of feet was the worst place to get sunburn. Bottom up is officially the worst point. Your face looks like you got work done or something. It just looks. Yeah. I'm going on with your eyebrows. You look like you came straight out of Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Like you're a wife in Silicon Valley that, like, has four chihuahuas and walks around and then all White House and all by appliances. You only give your dogs bottled water and you just walk around like that. Yeah. Fiji's good. Fiji's good. So I'm sleeping. What's the one with your eyebrows, bro?
Starting point is 00:01:44 So just quick on that. Actually, Trent, you go and then we'll come back to that. Well, no, mine's not that interesting either. I had a pretty low Kiwika not to surprise. That won't surprise anyone. I will say Saturday night, my air conditioning stopped working. So that's really been quite an adventure. I've been sweating my ass.
Starting point is 00:01:59 So, yeah, it died Saturday night. And so I've just been sleeping in the hottest room. Oh, no. You got that look of like your face has just been sweating for three days straight. And that's because I have been sweating for three straight days. I've got a fan going right in front of me as close to my laptop as they can get. I hopefully people can't hear that. But yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Saturday and Sunday were like the hottest days in New York ever. You don't have to tell me, brother. There were record hot days. record hot. And it's really been bad. And I've got this whoop band on. And I've been averaging over 20 disturbances a night because I'm just, I'm waking up every hour because it's so hot. So it hasn't been the greatest 4th of July weekend. But I'm alive. And I think probably I've lost a few pounds because it's been so hot. So that's a positive. Yeah. That's a huge plus. Well, Lurch and I were out in California. I think a lot of people saw that. We have a lot to get to on that front.
Starting point is 00:02:57 played Pebble, played Cyprus for the first time, so we're going to walk people through that experience. Trent was talking about being hot, needing maybe a little bit of a refreshment. We created a drink. We created a goddamn drink. Everybody knows it by now. This week, it's going to be available in stores,
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Starting point is 00:03:47 We will hit them up. We're getting it at Pinehurst. We're getting it at Tobacco Road. We're getting it at midpines and pine needles because those are places that we've talked to. So hit us up. We're going to get the transfusion to you. and then you can just get it online. That's the beauty of it.
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Starting point is 00:04:50 Barstall Classic. We had a big one at Hazelt Team, which we talked a lot about last week. Then we went on a little vacation for 4th of July. We've got another one, July 9th, Southern California, Monarch Beach. It's kind of we're touting it as the L.A. stuff, but it's like an hour south of L.A. kind of between L.A. and San Diego. I'd never been to that part of the country. But I think they're getting ready to shut down L.A. County, which is probably not a great thing.
Starting point is 00:05:13 So we're trying to figure out what exactly we're going to do. I believe we're still going to do the tournament. We're relying very heavily on the courses. So if the courses are like, hey, this is what we're doing, people are playing golf. we're still doing events. We just have to wear masks. Or, you know, we're doing single carts. We're not touching pins.
Starting point is 00:05:30 We're not touching rates. Great. That's what we're doing. That's how we're trying to run golf tournaments. So we have a Barstall Classic this Thursday, July 9th, Southern California, never been there before. Then we're in Denver on Monday. And then we're going to Atlantic City, the Monday after that.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So the tour continues to roll on. I expect to see everyone Thursday in Southern California, which, again, I've never been to before. I think Dana B. and Marty Mush are coming out to that one. So they're going to be a train wreck. So if you're playing on that, you should be very excited. And then Pioneer's number four, travel show.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I believe that's going to be coming out very soon. A lot of folks have been asking, when's the next travel show coming out? We had obviously the Kisner match. We had a lot of other things that we worked on during the, by the way, Kisner Match has like 800 and something thousand views on YouTube, which is monstrous. But Pioneer number four will be the next series,
Starting point is 00:06:19 next episode of our travel series. And then we've got like five more episodes. episodes. People forget, I think, that we went to fucking Australia. I forget. We were on Tasmania. And we played, uh, we played, uh, we played, we played, um, Tasmania. We played barn bugle. We played two courses of bar and boogle. Lurch played like the round of his life until the last couple holes. We played Kingston Heath, which we got to figure out what exactly do with that footage because it wouldn't let us fly the drone. We played
Starting point is 00:06:42 Peninsula Kingswood where Trent made the iconic titanic put. And then we played the dunes course down on the, uh, whatever the hell that peninsula is called with those, those Australian dudes. So we got a ton of footage still from Australia to get out. So the point is, go to our damn YouTube page, board play golf, check out our stuff. We're going to have more coming out soon. I think Frankie's closest to the Pioneer's number four travel show. When do you think that's going to be coming out there, Frank?
Starting point is 00:07:08 Sorry about that. I would tend to believe that the Pioneer Number 4 would come out hopefully Wednesday or Thursday. I think we have a little bit more to do. I just, you know, we've seen so much Pioneer. I'm just trying to see, like, how a lot of it's been the same stuff over and over. So we're trying to just decipher what, you know, I want to get to Australia, but I also want to show you, um, Pioneer number four because Pirates number four is fucking sick. Like I got, like, it shouldn't be one of those gloss over golf courses.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It's my favorite golf course at the whole entire resort. So I want to take our time on and making sure that it looks really good because it is my favorite golf course. I don't know if it's because I played the best there, but something about it. Those greens are awesome. Yeah. It's probably most people who just go play a couple different courses once and then leave, probably their favorite course. I would say that if I was going to Pioneers just to do like a buddies weekend, you're only going to play, you know, if number two and number four, the big ticket items and you're not crazy about golf history and that doesn't do it for you as much as it might for some other folks, you're just going for like a buddies golf weekend.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I think most people would prefer number four to number two. It's not as hard, but it still has the characteristics. I think the holes are aesthetically more pleasing. It kind of goes twice around this pond and this massive vista where you can see 12, 13, 14 holes all at the same time. So we're going to try to figure out the best way to showcase that. EBugs has been working his ass off on that along with Frankie, along with us in the editing process. So that'll be out soon. Point is check out Foreplay Golf on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:08:40 There's a bunch of other videos you can watch on there. And people clearly are because the video views are stacking up, which is great for us. it allows us to continue to do business. Headlines. Oh, sorry, before we get into headlines, just a quick update on Knives Creek. I released a little promo since the last time we've done this show. Some people are saying it's the best promo for a golf course ever put out.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And I can't believe it's not a real place after watching that video. I mean, I've got the clubhouse in. I've got the drive up to the clubhouse in, but I only got nine holes done. So I've done everything else except for the actual golf course. I think I may be the only golf course in the world that actually flowered the drive way up to the clubhouse before starting hole number 10. But I have nine holes done.
Starting point is 00:09:23 So it's an absolute grind. I've got nine holes done. It's a beautiful golf course. The thing I'm struggling with, which I don't know how to fix it, is that I'm making it look beautiful, but a lot of the things I'm putting in don't come into play. This is a big problem in golf architecture, right? And I've done my research and all this stuff. you need to like put bunkers and out of bounds stuff like in like it needs to be reachable right so
Starting point is 00:09:50 i can't keep putting these like insane bunkers that are like 355 yards off the tea or else no one's ever going to hit those so like i'm struggling with making these um all the things that i'm doing to the golf course like actually come into play it is it's very tough to build the golf course it's very very tough you have to think about like landing areas and like are you going to have to have have runoffs that go into the bunker. Like this one hole, I'm like, I'm taking things, I'm taking things from golf courses that I love. Like, I have a two-tiered par five from, like, Beth Pade's Black.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So, like, off the T, you have to hit it, and there's a huge bunker that goes across the middle. So you have to decide you're going to take, like, three wood or five wood and keep it below, or are you going to try and, like, ride the wind and go over it? And usually if you try and go over, you're always in the bunker. It's just like the, at Beth Pave. And, but my second shot, It's like, it's just a regular shot.
Starting point is 00:10:45 And now I'm making a runoff that maybe goes into a bunker, but then like everyone that hits it ends up in that bunker. It is very, very difficult to make it playable and also difficult. Dude, I don't know if we could set this up, but we need like Gilhands on this show where Frankie can pick his brain and be like, I'm building a golf course. Will you help me out? And like, what do I do in these situations,
Starting point is 00:11:08 making it look beautiful and making it hard? Because I guarantee this is a problem. Real golf course architects, not to say that you're not a real golf course architect run into, you know? So the green complexes in that in that game are nearly impossible to build. I've tried to build a few courses. Like when you raise the level of a green, it creates a mountain in the green. And then it just becomes an unplayable golf course.
Starting point is 00:11:28 You probably have to do it incredibly subtly, right? Like you can't put huge things in there. But Frank, yeah, I was going to say like whistling Straits. I mean, they have like 1,100 bunkers at whistling straits. And they say like 90% of them are just visual. So I think you can have some of that. But it does have to be really, really difficult to figure out how you can make the whole look a certain way and also have it within that look, play a certain difficulty or have it be a certain challenge. And then like there are certain courses where they talk about how if you look backwards from any green, which we'll get to when we talk a little about Cyprus, that like all the bunkers, even though there's a million bunkers in the fairway, you can't even see them from the green because they were designed so well.
Starting point is 00:12:09 and then there's an understanding of like, as the course architect, you know, you understand how this hole can look beautiful to a person, but like what it actually looks like or from a drone or something like that, but what it actually looks like when you're standing on the T and what you can see from the T versus like what's strategically in play is a huge difference. So like, so yeah, I mean, you might want to get somebody who, no offense, who actually designs golf courses that help you design your golf course. I would love nothing more than to get Gillen's on.
Starting point is 00:12:39 stream and just I go through Knives Creek and he decifers like what is usable what is not I just don't know how I'll go back and fix it that's something I may have to bring Crazy Canuck in for also I've gotten a lot of tweets after my promo came out they're like great job crazy Canuck building it crazy Canuck hasn't only one person can build a golf course I can't just pass it up to someone I'm not on on the PC I don't have this crazy software it's just been me and I haven't gone I haven't even met the guy yet via Zoom like I want to get him on at one point but I mean don't give that guy any credit I mean I like Crazy Kinnock, but like, that's crazy. Not to, you know.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Do you like Crazy Kinnock? I can't decide. You know, I do like Crazy Kinnok. I have a really good back and forth with them. It's just the one day I asked him, how do I get these clips? This is what happened. I asked him, how do I get these clips
Starting point is 00:13:27 onto my computer? And I want to get like these awesome shots of the golf course. I want to make a promo and put it to like dramatic, funny music. I want to make like a ridiculously dramatic, funny trailer. And he's like, yeah, no problem. Like, here's, like, all you got to do is, like, publish the golf course, even if it's only six holes and I'll go in there and I'll take videos.
Starting point is 00:13:45 And I was like, all right. Like, I'm actually, like, working right now. I'll do it later on. And by the time I logged on, he had made a dramatic trailer for his new golf course with all these shots and dramatic music on his YouTube. And he's, like, trying something new out. I hope you guys find this funny. I was like, well, like, crazy Kinnock.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Like, let's not get fucking crazy now. Like, I just texted you that idea. let's not start stealing it. So I had to pump the brakes on Crazy Knuck for a little bit. I thought he was getting a little too close to the sun when it came to the production of it. I also was nervous. He was just going to steal Knives Creek after I saw that. So, I mean, the guy is
Starting point is 00:14:19 a fucking, he's a social network situation on our hand. He's incredible at building golf courses. So if he gets a little sniff of Nice Creek, who knows, I'll never get that away. Also, I want to get this out there. I have names for my next golf course as well. I'm already thinking into the future.
Starting point is 00:14:35 And that second one's going to be Butters Bay. and it's going to be on the water. San Francisco type area, maybe peninsula, like the Monterey Peninsula type golf course, and it's going to be called Butter's Bay. So we got Knows Creek and Butter's Bay. This is going to be a full-blown company by the time I'm done with it. This is part of the portfolio.
Starting point is 00:14:53 So they're under the same design company. Yes. Wow. All right. Well, that, you know, look, the trailer, the teaser was so shocking. Just because I didn't see it coming. There was no teaser for the teaser. I didn't even know that you had made that much progress.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And it did. Your teaser made it appear like a completed finished project. Like it was. Yeah, there was six holes done when I put out that teaser. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, that's good.
Starting point is 00:15:25 So that's a nice little update on Knives Creek. Headlines. Bryce and Deschambeau, once again, he's done it. He was all over golf news this week. obviously when you win, that's a huge factor, but I would say he was even more so dominating golf headlines on Saturday. Trent blogged it.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I thought Trent's blog really said it all on the whole thing, especially the comment about even when he mentioned the word brand. It's like when Lurch says circle back or I'm going to ping you or something. Well, nobody circle back when I made that. Somehow ties what we do or tries to bring what we do into the business world, and it makes us want to puke. Brand, air quotes, brand, I think makes almost everyone want to puke. I do want to say for the record that we have reached out to Bryson.
Starting point is 00:16:13 We just DMed him via the four-play thing. He did not respond, and nor do I believe has he read it yet. But he had earlier this year, you know, Bryson was one of our friends. We've done a lot of videos with him. He tried to get Frankie to learn how to chip at Bethpage Black at the driving range. He's done a lot of stuff with Bryson before. then he got, and we called him, I believe, like a little bitch for this, but he got very upset when we just weighed in on the Brooks Kevka
Starting point is 00:16:39 versus Bryce DeChambo beef that was going on when Brooks just tweeted out a picture of his fucking four major championship trophies that were hanging out of the bottom of the staircase and said, you know, I'd rather have four of these or something like that. We said, oh, yeah, that's a pretty strong dunk upon Bryson. When he's got four majors, you have zero. We laughed about it, put up a little teaser. Bryson responded and said, good luck getting me. on the show and has never talked to us ever since.
Starting point is 00:17:03 So we did try to get him. We tried to reach him for comment, I guess they might say, in the journalistic world. But he did not respond. So it does not appear we're going to have Bryson on this show. A lot to unpack. We can start with Saturday, I would say, the cameraman confrontation where he hit some shit bunker shot was seen showing a ton of frustration. Camera guys stayed on him for like 60 seconds or two minutes. And he berated the cameraman afterwards. And then in an interview you said, you know, I think we should be protecting our image. I get that they have to film me, but they shouldn't have to fill me for that long. It's just going to hurt our brand.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I have a bunch of the quotes we can get to. But Trent, you blogged it. What do you thoughts? Well, yeah, I thought the confrontation happened and then, which is fine. I've read or I've seen some tweets of people who are around that. And they said it wasn't as bad as people are making it seem, which is, which is fine. But it was afterwards, after he got asked about all of it and was interviewed is when he said some of the crazy shit. let me just read these in full and then we can talk about it.
Starting point is 00:18:02 He said, this is Bryson talking. He was literally watching me the whole entire way up after getting out of the bunker, walking up next to the green. And I was just like, sir, what is the need to watch me that long? Deschambo said, I mean, I understand it's his job to video me. But at the same point, I think we need to start protecting our players out here compared to showing a potential vulnerability and hurting someone's image. I just don't think that's necessarily the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:18:23 As much as we're out here performing, I think it's necessary that we have our times of privacy, as well as when things aren't going our way. I mean, we're in the spotlight, but if somebody else is in a spotlight, they wouldn't want that either. DeCambeau said, I feel like when you're videoing someone you catch Tiger Woods at a bad time, you show him accidentally doing something or someone else that they're frustrated because they really care about this game. It really could hurt them if they catch you at a potentially vulnerable time. And these comments were, these next ones were the ones that caught a lot of fire. We don't mean anything by it.
Starting point is 00:18:51 We just care about a lot about the game. For that to damage our brand like that, that's not cool in the way we act, because if you actually meet me in person, I'm not that bad of a dude, I don't think. Okay, there is a lot there. And I will say the one part bringing up Tiger Woods is a wild move. Maybe the wildest of all of them. Tiger Woods has been in the spotlight forever and there's always a camera on him. I would love to see Tiger Woods's reaction to being pulled up in this context.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Because I guarantee he's got to be like, dude, I've had a camera in my face since I was 17, 16, 2 years old. It's not that big of a deal. I didn't freak out and yell at anybody. It's just, and for him to bring up the brand thing is crazy. It's just, I don't think the confrontation with a cameraman was that bad, but I think afterwards being like, you guys need to protect us more, stop putting these cameras in my face. When you are literally the most polarizing guy on tour
Starting point is 00:19:40 and you're doing all of these things to bring attention to yourself, the Ben Hogan half, the single length iron, bulking up, drinking 15 protein shakes a day. And then when you throw a little bit of a hissy fit to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't want this kind of attention. Basically, he wants all the positive attention that comes his way when he's playing really well and trying to change the game, being a golf scientist. But then as soon as he acts out of character and against his so-and-so brand, he freaks out.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And it's like you can't have it both ways. And like what he wanted and what he described there is the exact opposite of what should happen and what everyone wants. Everyone wants less of the branding, less of like the scheduled tweets that all these fucking guys do that clearly the tour like directed them to do. And they want who they really are. That's the reason we're fucking successful because guys like Kisner and Matthew Fitzpatrick and Bryson at times have come on this show, had more of a normal conversation.
Starting point is 00:20:35 They get to actually, the fans, the followers of golf, the listeners of our show, get to actually understand who a person might really be. And what you said, Trent, and your blog was spot on when you were like, I don't want Bryson to not confront the cameraman. I want Bryson to not bitch afterwards about confronting the cameraman because I want Bryson to be Bryson. I want to turn on the golf and witness. drama and and real genuine raw reactions and emotions and frustration and jubilation and all this
Starting point is 00:21:03 shit. I don't want just like a clearly, clearly, um, modified and like protected version of who these fucking guys are. I want the real raw actual thing. And that cameraman's doing the camera operator's job of operating that fucking camera right in his face at the most important emotional, real moment. It's like our videos when we do. do the travel show. The best parts are not. We don't just show montage of like good swing, good swing, good swing. It's like fucking guy being devastated that he degrained or that he had a chip that he thought
Starting point is 00:21:37 was going to sit in the back edge and then rolled off and then chipped it over again. And like his actual real human reaction to that. And that's what we want more of and call. That's why we want the catty interactions. That's why we want people miced up. We want to hear and see and understand who people really are in the moment in the heated competition. and he wants the exact opposite of that, which is Crazy Town. Yeah, a lot of people are saying, hey, if you're not a whiny, if you're never a whiny baby bitch,
Starting point is 00:22:04 then you don't have to worry about a camera being on you. And like they're basically saying change your behavior. And like you're saying, I don't want that. I want him to be Bryson all the time. He is an asset to the game of golf in terms of eyeballs. He is so polarizing. Every move he makes, people want to see it. He makes headlines every single week on and off the golf course.
Starting point is 00:22:22 So, yeah, I don't want him to change. but that doesn't mean we can't call him an asshole or make fun of him when he confronts a cameraman. It's just that's who Bryson is. And I want him to be Bryson all the time because he is super interesting. But for him to be like, no, no, no, I only want you to see this part of me and not that part of me. That's just simply not how it works at all. Yeah, I just don't think he knows how to communicate with people. Like he just fundamentally is just like a scientist engineer and just has really no idea how to communicate with people
Starting point is 00:22:50 and what actually like is going to be well received. because the way he comes off is just like he's clueless as to what the public like wants to see and is looking for and is interested in. He think it's just like him, his brand, him driving it far and everything that he's gone through with the golf. But it's like, no, we want to know your personality. And he just he just fails to see that. And it's what's nuts, right? It's like this was so avoidable for blowing up into a negative. It was the comments after that.
Starting point is 00:23:23 a real negative. If he just had had the interaction with the camera man, and then afterwards, very much said, yeah, I understand that. Look bad. I was frustrated in the moment. I just wanted to get the camera out of my damn face, but they're doing their job. Thank you so much for covering what we do. I understand we're raising a lot of money this week and the tour's able to give us a great life. Thank you so much. Everybody like, fine. But he just, he does like, he almost Frankies himself, where it's like the more he just keeps talking and talking and talking about it. You're like, no, no, what actually happened wasn't really a problem. We get it. But now, the more he spoke and spoke and spoke,
Starting point is 00:23:54 it's like he spiraled himself into some fucking hole that he can't get out of. And now everyone's like, you're the worst fucking person on tour with a lot of these reactions. So it was a bizarre thing that happened on Saturday. And he is clearly a bizarre guy with his little promotional video that he put out.
Starting point is 00:24:09 He's like clearly a weird guy. But on the whole, he is a massive asset for golf. That's correct. And I want him to keep doing what he's doing. Yeah, he's a goddamn roller coaster of this guy. I've had my ups and downs of Bryson.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I hated him at first. I thought he was the most disingenuous douchebag on tour. Then I loved them because he came on the show, and I'll do that with anyone. I mean, we've said that a million times. If you show us the respect to come on the show, and we get a lot of shit for that, where it's like, oh, you're going to go suck his dick now because he won.
Starting point is 00:24:40 It's like, well, if the guy shows you respect to come on the show, and we've said that a million times, you're always going to have more respect for the guy. Now you feel like you know him. You feel like you're almost like buddies with them because you spent an hour talking about golf and mixing it up. and telling jokes.
Starting point is 00:24:53 So obviously we're going to have this roller coaster of emotions with this guy. And now that he has shunned us and said, good luck getting him on the show. It makes me not like him anymore. And then he does stuff like this, which really, you know, it's like he went from the science guy, which was the worst brand ever. And he shoved it down our face with spraying the golf balls at the tournaments and all the fucking protractors. And what was it?
Starting point is 00:25:16 The, what is that thing, the RO? What was it? The resistance of the flag stick or something like that? Yeah. Co-efficient of restitution. The coefficient of restitution of the plastic. Like, oh, just shove it up your ass, man, with these words. Like, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But that's his new brand where he's just an absolutely yoked-up monster. And his neck barely fits inside his shirt. And he's walking around like a brick shit house. That's a funny brand. So Bryson is now on the up in my brain that everything he does is laugh out loud funny. He hits the ball 400 yards. Even when he misses the green, he's hitting. golf cart paths and it's rolling down to the green.
Starting point is 00:25:55 And then he's making bogeys on those old. He is an absolute wild card. He's leading the tour by like 20 strokes since they've come back from this break. I mean, he's just playing incredible golf. But I just can't get over what he said here. And it just drove me nuts because it's not like, like, Bryson, you have to understand this brand that you have. Like what you guys are saying, just be yourself and be this quirky, crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:22 psychotic meathead now. It's the funniest thing of all the time. Start screaming at people. That is your brand. If you're not changing the game, no little kids watching you and being like, oh, like, I know Bryson's getting mad,
Starting point is 00:26:33 but good thing they didn't show them on the screen because then I'm not going to get mad on screen when I get older with my one-length irons and my weird hat and my protein shakes. Like, no one's doing that, Bryson. You think you're like this otherworldly God that, like, you've come to save the game of golf. You guys have to watch this fucking stream he did
Starting point is 00:26:50 after he won last night. he got home and I don't think he was like drunk because I don't think Bryson drinks or has any social cues like Lurch was saying I don't think he has fun or anything but he was like laying in bed he could barely keep his eyes open and he's like to his Twitch stream you guys got a lot we can put in the audio I save some of it I don't understand the guy was videoing me for a minute after a shot like a full minute that's just that's just you know obsessive I mean it's not like cameraman. It's nobody's fault.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It's just, you know, there's got to be a little respect. That's all. I understand it's his job. Absolutely. I'm not saying he didn't do his job. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that, you know, if he videos you for a minute after you hit a
Starting point is 00:27:40 shot, trying to get you to capture something where you're, you know, you could potentially get mad. No, that's, that's ridiculous. I wasn't going to get mad anyway. It was just like he was trying to catch me. Like he's being a, you know, I don't know, just trying to, just, it wasn't respectful. And that's one of those things. It's just not right. That's all it is. Nothing, nothing problem. Not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Look, much respect for everybody out there, no issues. People are going to make a big deal out of nothing. It was a nothing burger deal. Nothing. You know, I just trying to protect the tour. I'm trying to protect all the players in the tour. That's all I'm trying to do. Y'all are making this a bit, a bit aggressive and obsessive. Nothing, nothing to it, guys. I love to it. He's like, thank you guys so much. Like, his eyes are closed. He's so weird.
Starting point is 00:28:26 He's laying in bed just, like, massaging his head. He's like, thank you guys so much. Like, you guys have no idea, like, what's going on. Like, you know, like, it's no one's fault. But, you know, the guy had no respect for me. You know, he's watching us. They're always watching us, man. Like, they're just always watching us.
Starting point is 00:28:41 He's a cameraman. Like, it's so crazy to look at a cameraman and be like, what are you doing? And the big, and my biggest point here is that, like, camera man didn't sneak into your room at night and see what you're doing. He didn't like sneak into your bathroom or like go into your bed and like get you in a spot that you didn't want to be like, you're on the golf course. You're playing in a tournament.
Starting point is 00:29:01 You are at work. When we're at work at Barstall, I can't be like, oh, no, like don't put the camera on me. It's like, that's our job. Right, like, ad sales of people, you need people to watch in order to have the paycheck that you got from the end of the tournament. It's like get the disconnect there. It's like, it's crazy. These angles he comes to the club.
Starting point is 00:29:20 In this Twitch thing, he's like. like, you know, they just want to get you mad. They want to see you mad. And it's not like I was going to get mad. I don't even care about this. It's more, I'm trying to, he kept saying, I don't even care about this. He's actually laughing. Yeah, and he also said it's not the guy's fault, but he kept going back to how bad that guy was.
Starting point is 00:29:36 He goes, there's no one's fault, man. That guy's just doing his job. He just has no respect. He's like, what do you do? What are you talking about? He's just doing his job, but he also is not doing his job and had no respect. And then, yeah, and it was just so, so strange. And then he goes, you know, they're just trying to, you know, they're just trying to,
Starting point is 00:29:52 to get us to slip up and be mad. And I wasn't even going to get mad, man. I wasn't even going to get mad. It's just more of like, it's more of like the idea of it that that's what they're trying to do. He goes, I'm here to save the tour. That's all I'm trying to do. He's here to save the tour.
Starting point is 00:30:04 He's like, all I'm here for is to change the game of go. And he's like rubbing his eyes the whole time and doing it. You guys got to watch it. It's a bizarre. It's always like Twitch channel. It's a bizarre thing. He takes a trophy out at one point and goes, look how fuck it's sick this thing is, man. And like just shows the bottom of it.
Starting point is 00:30:17 We're really weird Twitch stream. Right. He's a weird dude. There's no get there. Lurch is right, too. He's so out of touch with what people want and what is going to play well in the public guy to the point where yesterday we were begging for Kevin Kisner to be on TV, begging because he was up near the top of the leaderboard and they just weren't showing him.
Starting point is 00:30:34 And then Bryson, on the flip side, he's complaining about getting too much camera time. And he just doesn't know that we're going to look at that and be like, dude, you get to be on camera all the time. That's awesome. And our guy, Kevin Kisner, he gets like a shout out of the bunker. and then they cut away. It's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:51 He is clearly disconnected from, in any way, from understanding the public opinion, what the actual fans would like to see. He does have this arrogant, I know better what should be shown than what you believe and know should be shown, which is like arrogant and insulted. It's like, no, we're the consumer.
Starting point is 00:31:16 We watch. You just go out, play, yourself and do your thing. And that will, that will elevate your brand because exactly what Frankie was saying is that you, Bryson, have built this incredible brand of pounding the golf ball and playing the best golf in the world. That is the same brand that Tiger Woods built. Like it really is.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Tiger Woods, I mean, we've all laughed about it. We love Tiger to death. But yeah, he's like awkward with his dad jokes. And like, clearly he's been in this bubble. So he doesn't have all the exact same cues either. guess what Tiger's brand was. He just fucking came out. He hit the ball farther than everybody else, and he won.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And that allowed him to really have whatever brand he wanted, which made him a billionaire. So it's like if you, Bryson just focus on, and we'll get to Sunday now, winning golf tournaments, hitting the ball 10,000 miles, dialing in your wedge game a little bit, then you will have this ability
Starting point is 00:32:12 and sort of this more flexibility in terms of deciding what your brand is going to be, but just be your fucking. Like don't why is he consumed at all with trying to dictate what that branding, what that image is? It's like if you go out, play golf, be yourself and do the thing that you have been doing, you're going to dominate headlines. You're going to change golf. He is. Like people are going to start doing this.
Starting point is 00:32:36 They're not going to have a choice. Like he is just making the game that much easier. He is fucking out driving people. His, he broke Shotlink. I was reading this article. He broke Shotlink. Shotlink, the way that they categorized like approach shots, they had him listed as 70th out of 70 people that made the cut
Starting point is 00:32:53 in terms of strokes gain on approach shots because so many of his drives registered as approach shots because he drove them from the fucking T-box. And then if they land and finish within 30 yards of the green, it counts as an approach shot. So the actual stats for his approach shots were awful because they're like, no, you're missing the green and all your approach shots. Like, no, he's hitting it from 400 yards away
Starting point is 00:33:16 with a fucking driver. So like he is literally breaking the system with how he's hitting the golf ball. And it's awesome. It's must watch. When they cut to him, it is must watch. You can't not look. You can't not see where the ball winds up.
Starting point is 00:33:31 It's bouncing. Like you said, hitting cart pads, fucking trees. And it's just the camera. They do the thing with a camera guy's shaky because he thinks it's going to land at like 310 and it lands at 350 and he can't fucking find it. It's like it's incredible. And he's doing it every week.
Starting point is 00:33:45 And then like Frankie alluded to, He is 20 strokes better than anybody else since the return. He's 67 under par. The next closest, which has made me more surprising, is Lucas Glover. He's 47 under par. No, that was a miss. I thought that was a mistake. No, where that came, bro, and that could be a whole separate conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Victor Hovlin is 47 under par as well. Bryson now has come out. He chirped Donald Ross before the start of the tournament, which Detroit Golf Club is the Donald Ross tournament. And they were like, you know, how do you feel about the course architect. He's like, well, the bunkers aren't really in play. So like, sorry, Mr. Ross. I'm just going to hit it over the bunkers. And then he said it again last night. He said, I'm sorry, Mr. Ross. I didn't mean to hit it over those bunkers all the time, but it just happened.
Starting point is 00:34:27 And it's true. He's just making the golf course, the design, which Frankie's going to have to factor into Knives Creek and the Butter's Bay. He's making a lot of these things just obsolete. He's making a lot of what has happened in golf just irrelevant because he is just doing it his own way now. and they were, you know, his wedge statistics are not great. So it is also laugh out loud, funny to watch him, hit it, you know, 60 yards past people and then Miss Greens with wedges and stuff, but it doesn't matter. Hitting it that far.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Every course is like a par 66 for him or a par 67 or something. The par fives, I mean, he's hitting nine irons, eight irons into these 575 yard par fives. There's like water where it's like got to be this tricky. Are you going to try to run a four iron up the right side and try to. to find this window and barely miss the water. So no, no, he just flies it to the back middle of the green and spins it backwards towards the pin. He's just playing a completely different game.
Starting point is 00:35:22 And it's awesome. It's working. It's going to be amazing to see, like, is Augusta National in fucking code red mode now? Like, we cannot allow this fucking, uh, incredible Hulk psychopath who's attacking cameraman for being cameramen to come to Augusta National and just hit it over all fucking trees and play golf like a crazy person. I don't know what's going to happen, but it's working. That's the crazy part.
Starting point is 00:35:44 is that amid all the bullshit, him getting chirped, he's clearly rattled about getting chirped because he spent his whole weird Twitch stream last night talking about it. He clearly defended himself with Will Gray and with the other reporters on site afterwards for 20 minutes and talked himself into a hole. He's clearly rattled about it,
Starting point is 00:36:00 yet still able to go out and win. It's amazing. He should be selling, sorry Mr. Ross shirts, by the way. I don't want to give him any advice, but if he doesn't show up the next tournament wearing a sorry Mr. Ross shirt, he's just not doing the right things.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Stuff like that comes off the top. of his head, it's very, like, that is genuine. That's his brand, right? If you start saying stuff like that, I tweeted out yesterday when he was with his playing partner and they were waiting on the green. It was like, the guys were on the green like 420 yards away. And he like, was like, why don't you go? Like little boy, why don't you hit? I'm going to wait because I need them to clear out. It's just such a like demeaning thing to say. Like, hey, you pro golfer. I know that you're out here being a professional, but you're not good enough to hit with me. So why don't you just get your little shot done? And I'm going to wait.
Starting point is 00:36:44 here with the men and we're going to wait to hit our drive. I thought that was laugh out of funny. And the other thing that I wanted to say, and just bring it back real quickly, with this cameraman thing and the way that he approached this, he quite literally, he showed us that what I've said about him for years and how he, with the sign stuff, and we debated about this on this very podcast where I said he did things just to have us see it to make that his brand. He quite literally showed that that was, he proved that this week by saying, oh,
Starting point is 00:37:14 this is going to be my brand and you're about to catch me do something that's going to go against that brand you cannot do that just don't that means that it's not your brand like if you're going to get mad there that then like like you were saying regs you can't like pick and choose and and and pinpoint what we see he does that with everything he does he has to stop doing that just be free be a psycho tiger woods was known as like an asshole his whole entire career because he wouldn't talk to people and he wouldn't give interviews and he'd walk by fans with autographs and stuff like be that guy who cares that's a good brand. Yeah, no, it is.
Starting point is 00:37:46 But I guess to play devil's advocate, if you think about it, his brain worries about everything. It worries about he sprays the dew on the club or on the ball. He's worried about the pin. He's worried about hitting the drives really far. So, of course, it's going to bleed into his public persona. He's going to worry about how he's perceived, how he's looked at by the public.
Starting point is 00:38:04 So I guess if you try to change that little thing about him, it changes everything. But I'm with you. If he would just be himself, yes, it's going to be off-putting to some people, but at least it's genuine. And people love people who are genuine and authentic. You can't be liked by everybody. And it's just impossible.
Starting point is 00:38:19 When you try to do that, you fail. So if you just be yourself and yeah, they're going to catch you being an asshole out of a bunker sometimes. But all that doesn't really matter if you win. And he won yesterday. So if you keep winning, you can be whoever the fuck you want. So just be yourself. You know what's laugh out loud. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Laugh out loud funny is when you say like you don't know where to put bunkers on Knives Creek, If you go onto the PGATor.com and look at where he's driving the ball over bunkers, it is so, so funny. Like, there are bunkers like 60 yards behind him. On the 18th hole, he hit a ball 355 yards and had 98 yards in with a little flip wedge. Like, he's just like outdoing every golf course possible. It is so good to see those, you just click through each hole. It's just, it's a joke. He's playing moon golf.
Starting point is 00:39:08 It's not even real golf. It's like he's playing on a mountain that with, with just like zero gravity and the ball just flies. And the other thing I'll say is like every, when he does this stuff and complains and says about his brand, it makes us, or it makes like the average viewer like, all right,
Starting point is 00:39:25 so everything good you do or like everything that you want to see is all just part of like this script or this plan, right? Like you want like the camera was on that point. So that it's almost like Kastanda putting in the tip and wanting the waitress to like in the tip jar. And she like wants her to see it. But like if she wasn't looking at, or if he wasn't looking like you're not going to put it in.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It doesn't count. Like, ah, he wasn't looking. Like, it's so disingenuous. There's just nothing pure about what he does. I hate his team.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I think his team may be the worst people in the world, honestly. After they made him put out that quarantine video, whoever edited that thing, whoever okayed that. And then, like, whoever has gotten into his brain to tell him that you can have this career
Starting point is 00:40:05 and it's going to be out of a fucking scripted book. That's just so insane to me. It's so insane. Yeah. Yeah, he does like, you're right, he devolidifies the good stuff and the real stuff now because you don't know. Is this all just like part of his script, part of his plan? Is he just wanting us to see this so he can curate what his image is like to the public and is none of this who he really is, which inside the ropes is when you are going to be who you really are. And it's like the same way, the same reason that golf is very important in business.
Starting point is 00:40:37 It's like you can't hide for four hours or somebody out on the golf course. They're going to see you happy. They're going to see you frustrated. They're going to see you sad. They're going to see you mad. They're going to see you pumped when you hit a great shot. They're going to see a little bit of everything. They're going to understand how you converse, how you kill free time, how you focus when things mad.
Starting point is 00:40:54 They're just going to see a little bit of everything of you. And that's the same thing inside the rope. So him getting upset at that clearly kind of devalitifies all the other stuff and makes it what's real, what's not, what's genuine, what's fake? What are you just scripting? Trent, a second ago, said, you can't please everyone. well there's a little copy out there that does please everyone Frankie I think you know this company and it's very good for your skin I believe Orson Alps this weekend I barely wore a shirt
Starting point is 00:41:22 I was in the pool but the only thing that I put on my skin I put like barely any sunscreen on I'm like sunkissed I know it doesn't look like it because I've been a dark room right now but I'm sunkissed out there the only thing I put on my skin was Ors and Alps deodorant because you're out there you're sweating you don't want to smell you're playing beer palm flip cup you don't want your arms going up and people walk them what's going on down there you put on that you put on that that turquoise color whatever whatever flavor that is um whatever scent that is of oars and alps uh deodorant and man the people the people flock around they're like what is that scent you know you're outside you're in the nature and they're still coming around you
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Starting point is 00:42:56 To tie a little bow on the Bryson thing, he averaged 329.8 yards per T-shot this week at Detroit Golf Club. and he reached a 350.6 average on the two holes the tour actually used to officially measure driving distance. So people might not know this, but in order, when you look at the driving distance statistic, the way that they calculate that, it's not every drive. They just pick two holes in every tournament. And then they just take the average of all of your drives on those two holes for the week. That is your average.
Starting point is 00:43:27 His average on those, that statistic specifically was 350.6 yards was his average. That's Crazy Town. The latter total is the longest achieved by a tournament tournament winner since Shotling began tracking in 2003 surpassing Tiger's mark of 341.5 yards of the 2005 British Open in San Andrews, which baked out, links go off, the ball rolls forever and ever and ever and ever. Bryson did this at like a parkland course up in Detroit. I get that the thing is like a little bit more firm in the fairways, but there's brutal rough, there's fucking trees, there's fucking bunkers.
Starting point is 00:44:02 It's not a links course like San Andrews. and he hit it 350.6 yards on average. That is Carazietown. I just can't believe how straight he hits it. He sprayed a couple on Sunday, which was out of the ordinary. But for the most part, he hits it far and fucking straight. And he swings as hard as he can.
Starting point is 00:44:21 No one is swinging harder than Bryson. Like imagine every time you've ever swung as hard as you possibly could, either you topped it or you pulled it or you sliced it and it's a nightmare. He hits it like a long drive championship. It's insane. All you've learned by playing golf, these little tips that people give you on the T. It's like the slower the swing, the further it goes and the straighter it goes. He's going against everything that you want to do when you're on top of the ball.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Like swing thoughts, imagine being like, I'm going to swing as hard as I can right now. And the ball's going to go 350 yards right down the middle. That's crazy to me. I played yesterday, and I was like, try and swing like a tortoise has the club in sand. Like, I want to swing like I barely have limbs, like just barely get the ball. the club through the ball. Like he's doing the complete opposite. It's insane.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah, it's amazing. And he's pounding the ball. He's swinging his ass off. It is unconventional. It's against everything you learn. Swing easy when it's breezy and all this other stuff, smooth tempo. No, he just swings as hard as he possibly fucking can.
Starting point is 00:45:20 He pounds the ball. So it's incredible. It goes dead straight. I saw a few tour pros weighing into because sort of won't go off Twitter and these other people like, well, wait until he gets to a major championship and it's not going to be the same. They're like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Hitting 3.50 and straight just works everywhere. It's going to work. It's going to work. It's going to work. No matter. Yeah, and those people who hate what Bryson is doing, I don't understand that. Obviously, we have our opinions about Bryson, but like, it's so entertaining. And I get if everybody on tour was doing this, if everyone was going driver wedge every single time. But he is literally the only guy doing this.
Starting point is 00:45:54 So it's really fun to watch. So save your opinions where it's like, oh, it's ruining the tour. It's ruining golf. He's the only guy doing it. That's not possible to ruin it if he's the only way. doing it. It's so awesome. Yep. It's great. And it's going to continue. He's been there every week.
Starting point is 00:46:12 He's got top tens in every single tournament that he's played in. He's got a win. He's got a second. He's got an eighth. He's got a third. He's got all these really high finishes. So it's not, he's not going anywhere unless he gets injured. So that's the Bryson situation. Kisner, Kevin Kisner, our buddy, who we did defeat in a match at Pyrus number two, which Gary Williams did stay and stay and laugh about on Golf Channel.
Starting point is 00:46:33 He said, coming off a match with the four play guys over at Pioneers number two, which he lost, by the way. I like that little comment. So appreciate that from Gary. Solo third, $517,500. Ain't no hobby. That's a good amount of money. So big shout out to Kiz. He had a great Sunday. He had a good start to the attorney. I think he was like seven under after the first day, kind of up there tied for the lead. And then had a phenomenal Sunday finish as well. I think he was six under with no bogies. Had a nice up and down in the 72nd hole to kind of solidify his spot there as a solo third saves. him 100 grand or so.
Starting point is 00:47:07 And then he had a very good interview afterwards. He said on Bryce and D. Shambo shows he's got too much time on his hands. He needs some kids or something. So kind of a classic Kisner line there. But big week for Kiz, but they just won't show them on the fucking coverage, which we already alluded to, which is a shame.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I would like to watch kids play golf. And we just really can't. I don't know what the solution is to that. I don't know. Do we need to yell at somebody? Do you need to tweet at somebody? I don't know how we can really watch kids play golf. He was on featured group once, like a month ago or three weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And other than that, I don't really, you just don't get to see any of his golf shot. So it's kind of annoying. I might go the other way and say that just don't show him. He played really well when you don't show him. He's going to be, he'll be the leader or the hero of not getting shown. Like you want to show Bryson. You want to show Matthew Wolf. And Matthew Wolf had a tough day yesterday, except on Back 9.
Starting point is 00:48:00 But, like, Kizner, if you're not going to show him, fine. We want to see him. He's one of the most popular guys on tour. he was near the top of the leaderboard yesterday. Just show him. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't praying for a Bryson, Matthew Wolf, collapse and seeing Kisner just sneak in a W.
Starting point is 00:48:13 That would have been fucking phenomenal. Yeah, it would have. It would have been really cool. He, you know, you kind of knew he was going to be too far back just with Bryson and the par fives and the fact that he can make easy birdies. And Matt Wolf was falling off a cliff, but then kind of bounced back, which I think he kind of needed. He's clearly, I mean, I know he's won,
Starting point is 00:48:31 but he's clearly young. I think we all found that out during the Little Skins game at Seminole. He's young in every way, in his attitude, in his maturity level. And I imagine that seeps into his experience out there. He was at one point, you look at the leaderboard, it's like the top 15 people, everyone's under par, except Matt Wolfe was over par. But he turned it around. He had a great finish.
Starting point is 00:48:55 He put a little bit of heat on, which was cool to see. He gets a solo second for $800-something,000. So a big wheat for Matthew Wolfe. I saw Danny Willett with a tied for fourth. That was a stunning name. As surprised as I was that Lucas Glover is the second best, you know, aggregate scored apart since the return of the PGA tour. Seeing Danny Willett's name up there, I thought he just retired.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I mean, I didn't know Danny Willett was still doing the thing. I thought he won the Masters. He had his little fun with his brother there. He was chirping, beef online all the time. And then they just fucking disappeared. But no, Danny Willett's back, tied for fourth. And then Webb Simpson, Webb Simpson with a T-8. His name was up there going into the weekend.
Starting point is 00:49:33 he's up there every fucking week. I mean, he won the players championship. He's obviously got a couple of a win during the reset here. And then he's just in the top 10 or in the top 15. I feel like every single week. So Webb Simpson, as much shit as we've given him, I think we have classified him in like the top five most boring guys on PGA tour. Yet here he comes.
Starting point is 00:49:53 He's just playing really, really good golf. He's got 900 hybrids in his bag. He's not the sexiest player out there on tour, but he does it every damn week. So if we want to get into the second show of the week, started getting into gambling, talking a little bit more about horses that you want to bet on and take each week,
Starting point is 00:50:08 Webb Simpson just keeps playing great golf. Shout out to me and Lurch. Great pick, Lurch, on this week. A lot of people giving me shit, probably giving you shit too, being like, oh, he's the favorite. Hey, fuck you. Did you pick him?
Starting point is 00:50:18 I bet you didn't. And I was thinking, how many times does a favorite win a PJ tour event? Probably never. Like, almost never. No, probably, I mean, you go back to like the consistency level of Tiger Woods when I was like, him versus the field.
Starting point is 00:50:32 But like it. I will say, yeah, not often. And it's still six and a half times your money. So shut up. And if you picked them good for you, happy for you, but a winner is a winner. And that's plus six.
Starting point is 00:50:44 We could have picked anybody. We could have picked anybody in that people. There were a lot of people in that people. But you picked the favorite. No, no, but you picked the winner. You picked the right one.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Frankie, did you pick the winner? No, but you're saying you could have picked anyone. And all I'm saying is you picked the one with the best eyes. I don't. And it won. So, like, where did I go? I'm not saying, I'm not going against you guys. I'm just saying that you said I could have picked anyone, which is true.
Starting point is 00:51:08 You could have picked the guy who was 20,000 to one on, but you picked the guy who was six to one. In the last five years, I would, in the last five years, I would love to say this, because someone's going to do the math and you're going to do it. I just want to see. You don't think the favorite wins, like a decent amount of time? No, I don't. I don't think so. 20%?
Starting point is 00:51:27 No. No, 20%? Oh, God. Do you suck with numbers. Yeah, no way. You don't even know how things work. All right, Lurch. I mean,
Starting point is 00:51:34 10%'s way too hard. Looks like we're sucking your dick from this view. Can you please me in the camera? So I've been running around the house. This is crazy. So we're sleeping in our buddy's Josh's house, which is a beautiful house. I'm sitting in the living room doing the podcast.
Starting point is 00:51:47 And then he goes on his peloton. And I'm like, what is that sound? It's like somebody talking, but super loud. And then all of a sudden it goes into like 90s rock jams. And I'm like, oh, he's on his peloton.
Starting point is 00:51:59 So then I go on mute. and I'm trying to find a safe zone. So now I'm back in the kid's house. Just a little low. It's just I don't like this. It's like the one. It's weird. What she sees.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's like what she sees versus what he sees. Yeah. It's not. 4% of the time. About 4% of the time. So the favorites, just an outrageous number. The favorites,
Starting point is 00:52:17 the favorites win about 10.5% of the clip last year. It's also going to vary based on like the odds. 20 is not that dumb, I guess. No. I didn't think 20. 20 is not that bad. Point is. By the way, Tiger back in the day was like two to one to win every week, which is...
Starting point is 00:52:33 Yeah. And he just won it all the time. So think about that. But my last point is they are a favorite for a reason. So, like, they are the favorite to win that golf tournament before it starts. So it's not crazy to think they're going to win. All right? So you're acting like it was a 1% clip.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Like, they are the favorite for a reason. They think they're going to win. But I'm just saying the favorites don't hit that often at all. In golf especially. One every time. tournament. Listen, I'm not a, I'm not a gambler, but I was just happy that I got it and people were mad. This is also coming from the guy who takes, like, the third best player in the world every week, which is just... Yeah, well, it's obviously not working because he didn't play,
Starting point is 00:53:12 and also he hasn't won, so, I mean, I'm waiting for this guy, just win a fucking tournament. I really just wanted to take a guy, like, I wanted his stats to be my stats, like, just consistency. It really had nothing to do with, like, his odds each week. It was more like, I was going to pick a guy that I just wanted his stats, but I fucked that up. I pick it. I might never leave the... I might take Bryson train. I might take Bryson every week the way he's in the golf ball. Right. When he goes a country mile and he's got little wedges in when people are hitting four on. You're going to pick the favorite every week. I mean, it's smart. That's great. Make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Okay. We got to say that Lurch and I played Cyprus. That just happened. We played Cyprus on on Friday. It was, I guess, probably top two bucket list courses in the world for me, at least. Augusta and then Cyprus, both Alistair McKinsey. A course that I just never. thought ever under any circumstances would I be allowed to step foot on. And we, you know, we talked to a few people at Pinehurst before I left, said, you know, we're going out west. We got this Fourth of July where our office is closed. We're going to go out and play a little golf for three or four days. We all here have been out to Monterey. We've been out to the Pebble area. We've played a bunch of golf around there. It's arguably the best little peninsula of golf on planet
Starting point is 00:54:24 earth, but never been out to Cyprus, never even had a sniff, never had anyone anywhere ever be like, you can go and play this lovely, majestic, magical golf course that is Cyprus Point. And we had it lined up a week or two beforehand. You know, it is one of those things. If you remember when Jake Owen came on and he talked about playing Augusta, and he was like, well, the beauty of like playing Augusta is that like, I can't really talk about playing Augusta. I'll never get to play August again.
Starting point is 00:54:50 So that is clearly creeping into our heads a little bit. But because Cyprus is similar, it's up in that same top echelon. But Cyprus was, I think we all took the best, the single best walk that we've ever experienced in golf, every hole with the bunkering from the McKinsey bunkering, the green complexes, kind of similar to the Augusta green complexes, except you're on the water. The first tee shot is, I mean, your back is touching the damn pro shop and the little clubhouse right there. And it's one of those places, clearly when you step on property, you feel like I'm not supposed to be here. the only people that allowed to be here are like the most important people on earth and we're not that. We're maybe the exact opposite end of the spectrum of that. So it already feels like everyone's staring at you like, hey, misfit, how did you end up on property? And then you have to hit this
Starting point is 00:55:43 tee shot in front of everyone right at the clubhouse, right in the pro shop. The T-box just brushes right up against its moat up against it. And it was a magical, incredible experience. The last, you know, 15, 16, 17, our photograph, maybe some of those photograph holes in the world that stretch was back-to-back part three is the 235-yard part three over water.
Starting point is 00:56:06 It was as good as advertised. It felt like you were just floating through a dream the entire time. The views were great. The playability was great. Lurch had a really good round going until we did get to 16, which we'll talk about.
Starting point is 00:56:20 But it was as good as it gets and probably ranks. I mean, we have to really sit down and critically think about it. Probably ranks is the best golf course I've ever played. I don't know exactly what Lurch thinks about the whole thing. Yeah, it's it's right there. I mean, certainly the best walk,
Starting point is 00:56:35 best experience I've ever had in my life. Like I was going back and forth between the like the properties of Pebble versus Cyprus. But Cyprus is just like majestic. And then yeah, 15, 16, 17. And then people, you know, some people criticize 18. I actually love 18. 18 is like you go through. like a Cypress forest back up to the clubhouse.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And Cypress trees are just my favorite trees in the world. I mean, they're the coolest looking trees on planet Earth. I really don't know how they're made and how they grow that way, but it is like so gorgeous to see. And yeah, Cyprus was breathtaking. So I'm super lucky to have played it. It was a fun golf course. It was just a very fun golf course.
Starting point is 00:57:23 It wasn't, it's like 6,600 yards from the back. tease or something like that. It was one of those courses. Like if you're hitting it well, you can play and score and like Lurch had it going. Lurch had an eagle on the 10th hole. I think he was probably waiting for me to say Lurch eagled the 10th hole at Cyprus. He ripped the driver down in the middle and hit like a five iron from 250 yards to four feet and made it. You had a couple birdies as well, right, Lurch?
Starting point is 00:57:44 Yeah, I birdied three. I birdied six and then I eagled 10 and I was a buzzing. It was a shoot. I mean, 83 or something like just a blow up. I mean, like, dude, you play the 16th hole. A 16th hole is the hardest hole in the world. Like, it's the most beautiful hole in the world, but it's also the hardest. We were 30 out dead in the wind.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Yeah. So it was. I ripped the three wood the first time. I was like, oh, that's on it. And it was just a hundred yard short. It was crazy. Because like Jake Owen, who was like, he was chirping me about being out there. And he's like, you know, and he's sending me videos because, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:20 Jake Owen's a pretty cocky, confident guy. He's a really good player. So he sent me a video of him. hitting some iron off that tea right into the middle of the green and was like, I bet you'll have to hit like hybrid or something. Well, we fucking get there. Lurch and Josh had honors. Josh, our buddy, Josh is a plus handicap.
Starting point is 00:58:36 So he's a plus, you know, one or something handicapped, phenomenal player. He hits three wood right at the middle of the green ocean short. Then Lurch steps up. Lurch hits the ball, country mile. He steps up, rips a three wood right at the middle of the green ocean. So now we're standing there like, what the fuck are we going to do? So I tried to hit like a punch driver, massive slice. off into the ocean.
Starting point is 00:58:56 And then our other guy, our host, who was the nicest guy on Earth, he tries to hit Driver as well, Ocean. So we all four, just like, how are we going to play this hole? Lurch, I think you tried to hit Driver the second time, but you went a little bit right. And then our other guy, Josh, hit the rope three wood again, right at the green the second time, came up short. So we were like, how are you supposed to play this golf hole?
Starting point is 00:59:19 So what did you guys make on that hole? A million? I mean, nobody, like, we just didn't know what, do we're like we'll just take scorecard like doubles or triples and we'll just like go up to the green and putts around josh our buddy josh tried to hit one off the beach his ball was actually on the beach bladed one into a wall almost killed himself and then our host was actually i guess hogan when he played here and won you know a hundred years ago he just laid up to the left so you can hit like a four iron up to the left and then just have a chip into the middle of the green and play it as like
Starting point is 00:59:49 a par four um which is what he did but i mean when you show up and you're going to play cybrus once in your entire life. You don't step onto a 230 yard par four, par three over the ocean. I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna hit a fucking five iron out to the left and lay up.
Starting point is 01:00:03 You're not doing that. So everybody's just trying to rip it at the green. I felt bad for these guys. I was playing awful. I didn't have a round going. We were in a heated match, but like Lurch and Josh had good rounds going
Starting point is 01:00:13 and then just like lost their whole rounds in that hole. So I did feel bad for you guys. Yeah. I always thought that was a par four to be honest. Oh, no. I mean, so you can play it as a par four.
Starting point is 01:00:23 It's almost better to play it as a part four because it's so hot. Like it's just so hot. Great. You're just never going to, like, you got a good chance of making four, but you have a good chance of making an infinity. Is there any damage like deep into the left or is, or can you drive? Can you drill a driver?
Starting point is 01:00:39 Deep left's the ocean. Deep left. You can't go right. You can't go left. The only thing you can do is you can go long straight. So you can hit a driver. Or you can go short left. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:51 There's tons of room short left. You could hit a fucking seven iron. It wasn't too much. It wasn't too quirky. Like it wasn't like you guys were playing in the middle of the ocean with a little bit of grass. Dude, it's the coolest thing you've ever laid eyes on. I agree. But like to actually play the game, is it like, you played well. But like for me, I'd be like, we're just in the middle of the ocean on some rocks now. Like this isn't even golf.
Starting point is 01:01:13 So it was one of those things when Josh stepped up to the tee. He pulled out. I wasn't looking. So I had a four eye because it was like 230 and the pin was in the back. And I just wasn't thinking. So I pulled four iron and then I saw he had a three wood. So I was like, huh, what the hell? Like, what's your distance?
Starting point is 01:01:29 So then I pull hybrid. And then I saw his ball balloon up into the wind and then pretty much just come backward to that. So I was like, all right, this is three wood. And I ripped three wood. It wasn't even close. I mean, it was a driver and I would have had to like nut it. Yeah, that's crazy.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Yeah. Well, we just caught it on a bad day because like the wind was crazy. Like if there was a tournament there that day with the win, they would have just moved the T's to a different location, I'm sure. Because it was ridiculous. It was. It was. And like we said,
Starting point is 01:02:00 like our buddy Josh is a very good player. It wins like tournaments. He's a plus one handicap. And he, I mean, he hit two shots into the ocean. So he's making like a seven or an eight on that hole at least. And it's like,
Starting point is 01:02:11 so I guess you could play it out to the left, which if there's a tournament, maybe they would do it that way. So it did feel gimmicky in the moment. But like, that was just an uncommon win. They're like, usually if it's downwind or something or a crosswind, And, you know, you can hit a long iron into the middle part of the green or you can just hit it out to the left.
Starting point is 01:02:25 There's tons of space. So it was like, it was funny because, you know, you're, I've never had a feeling in golf, A, like the first 15 minutes we were on property because we showed up, we kind of go down to the driving range. You know you're going to tee off pretty soon. And I hadn't been that nervous and like jittery and just giddy in years. I mean, it was that feeling the whole time of like I cannot believe we're here. I cannot believe this is happening. I can't believe I'm awake. Like, am I actually awake during this whole thing?
Starting point is 01:02:54 And then that, you know, you get kind of comfortable in the round. There's some really, really cool holes on the front nine. And then like even eight and nine are these really cool back-to-back, short par fours. The course really gets good. Like 11, 12, 13, you start to go out towards the water. And you're sort of like, wow, you know, it's happening. It's coming. And you play the 14th hole.
Starting point is 01:03:15 And the 14th hole is the last one before you go across the road. And once you go across the road, you know 15 is this iconic par three on the ocean among the rocks and there's seals followed up by 16, which we've talked about, followed up by 17, which is really cool little dog leg right, par four over the ocean. So you know all that's coming. When standing on the green on 14, as like other guys were finishing up putting, you again started to get crazy nervous and crazy like butterflies of like, okay, that walk that like people have written books about and people. talk about on social or it gets referenced on golf coverage of like so whenever somebody mentions a great moment or a great walk or great feeling and experiencing like a golf course that that you'll never forget that like oh we're about to do that walk now and that was kind of hitting home for a couple of minutes while everybody's finishing up on 14 and then you walk across the road you go around
Starting point is 01:04:09 this little corner and it's kind of like tall grass and you don't really know like wait where is it all and then you just kind of arrive and they've got kind of the old school like wooded railings so it's incredibly tastefully done of course and you're just kind of standing there with the waters like crashing into the rocks you're like i'm supposed to hit a golf shot now among all this like how is that going to happen it was just like that then for the final hour where you're sort of in this dream playing cypress the clubhouse is small understated but it's got all the history of obviously everyone that's come through there and played there we raided the pro shop i think it's a massive flex if you can rock something that says Cypress Point Club on it.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Like it's maybe the biggest flex of all time. We were ready to boot shop after. We had a delicious cocktail with our host at this back patio. And from the back patio, pretty much the only view you had was through the Cypress trees down to the 16th green, but from like way higher than you actually play the hole. And again, we were just sitting there like, how can this be a thing that's actually happening? What was the, what was the drink that we had?
Starting point is 01:05:15 It's special. Sam special, which my name is Sam, so that's pretty cool. But Sam special that we were drinking out there and just sitting there like, okay, we just did the thing where we played Cyprus. It was great. We ended up having the match. It was just a phenomenal all-world-class experience and everything that people would probably ever guess.
Starting point is 01:05:34 I was sweating my tits off in a Manhattan apartment with no AC, and you guys are playing Cyprus. That's quite a life. Pretty good. I will say, that sounds fucking awesome. Yeah, it was incredible. But one thing that I wish, like, I hope you guys get to experience is first T shot, obviously, Cyprus. And it being cut into the pro shop, but there is a hedge maybe like 30 or 40 feet in front of you that protects the road.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And it's like a 20 foot hedge. Now it is a little downslope. But our host was like, I've seen many people hit this ball directly into that hedge. And you're first tee at Cyprus. And you could probably, probably like, if you're like a pro, the play. play is like to hit like a hybrid or a three wood down the left hand side. But like under that circumstance, I'm just going to take the biggest club in my bag to hopefully make contact. And I just took a driver and like it like cut a little bit so it actually worked out. But it is a nerve-wracking
Starting point is 01:06:31 first T-shot. So I hope that you get out of that sweaty apartment. And one day we can all get on that place. Dude, this golf course is so stupid. It's like crazy these pictures. The green complexes are the most impressive green complexes like I've ever seen on an aggregated 18 hole. We've been using that word a lot today. That's like, is that a new, that's a new word we're using these green complexes. I don't think we've ever used the word green complex once on this podcast. We've said it five times today. Is that something that you guys, was that a word that got into you guys lingo out there at Cyprus?
Starting point is 01:07:03 I feel like the host probably said that a bunched it up out West. Yeah. Would you say? What? Would you say, Trent. I would say maybe the host, I feel like the host said green complex. Someone, yeah, someone got the green complex into your guys vocab and you guys are running away with it hard. Somebody said early on, like you won't believe the green complexes and then every hole we were just like, look at these green complexes.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Dude, this 16th hole is insane. And you know what's crazy? It's like I've looked up pictures of cypress like once in a while. I always thought that like you couldn't even search it on the internet. Like you weren't allowed to like type it in. Like they wouldn't come up. Like someone from like the CIA would come in and knock on your door. you're not allowed to search it.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I haven't looked it in a while. It's crazy that they- Well, Nancy did a whole-by-whole thing, which I'm going to go, I didn't really do it prior to playing it, but I'm going to do it now after playing it. Yeah. It's crazy to think that you can hit that green.
Starting point is 01:07:56 That's just stupid. And then the next shot, the 17th T-box, it has to go back over that water. Yes. It's intense. And you're just out there like, what? And, you know, because you're, it's breathtaking. So you're sort of like, what are we doing out here?
Starting point is 01:08:10 Like, even if you were on a walk out there, you'd be a little nervous. Like, am I? The aerial shot of 16 green seems impossible to hit that green from where you have to hit that ball. You have a landing area of maybe 15 yards and it's just the green. Right. I can't tell you. I'm going to.
Starting point is 01:08:26 I don't care. I'm at Cyprus for the one time in my life. I'm laying up to the left so fast. You would have won that hole by six shots, Tray. Yeah. And then the last thing that we have to talk about from our little trip is there was almost a fight on the 6th T at Pebble Beach Golf Links, which we'll get to in a second. This golf season, New Amsterdam vodka, the official vodka of Barstall Sports, would like you
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Starting point is 01:10:29 Wow. So that was supposed to be the first event with fans next week and they said no fans, which isn't all that surprising if you follow the news at all, but now it's confirmed, you know. a rock. Yeah, so, but it's confirmed now. Bob Herrick said, no fans at Memorial. Yeah, that makes sense, right? I mean, I think a lot of places
Starting point is 01:10:47 certainly doesn't sound like it makes sense to get fans. Like, there's just like, tell me what the reason is to pour fans in this place. No, you can't. When I want to notice it. You watch these highlights now of, like, a football game or a baseball game. You can't believe how many people sit next to each other. It's crazy. They were running commercials during the
Starting point is 01:11:05 tournament yesterday or on Sunday, and you do, you see it, and you're like, me, look at these people. They're just, look these animals. So careless. Look at these animals standing next to each other. Holy shit. It is. How fast it's changed where you see that stuff and you just can't believe that it was once like that.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I just, sometimes I'll sit and I just can't believe that this is all happening. So we also played, we played Pebble, which you're posting a bunch of photos of as well. Played Pebble Beach, which. Stupid trip. Ridicuous trip. Outrageous trip. We've all played Pebble Beach before. Iron Hills, Pebble Beach, Spyglass, Cypress, Cypress.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Chris, what a trip. It's a ridiculous run. But we're playing Pebble. And one of the craziest things I've ever witnessed my entire life. So we're walking up the 14th Fairway, which is this par 5 dog leg right, iconic hole, maybe the hardest hole in the course with the crazy green elevated shot. Well, the 14th Fairway goes right by the 6th T, which is the par 5 that goes out towards the peninsula, really, really cool T, or elevated.
Starting point is 01:12:05 We're walking up, and we see these guys as forced when they walk back all the way to the U.S. Open T's, which there's no markers out for the U.S. Open T's. They walk all the way back out. First guy T's off from the back Tee all the way tips it out U.S. Open T. Well, the Marshall drives up, hops out and says, hey, do you guys have permission to hit from the U.S. Open T's? And they're like, you know, no. And they're like, okay, well, you have to get approval from the pro shop or you have to be a pro or you're not allowed to play the U.S. Open T's. And we're not even close to them yet. We're way back. We're just kind of witnessing this whole thing. And they have a little like exchange, hard to tell. We're getting a little bit closer. And they kind of turn
Starting point is 01:12:39 around and walk away for a second, maybe, maybe five yards away, six yards away. And then the guy turns around back towards the marshal, flicks him off and starts going, fuck you, you fucking bag of dicks. Are you fucking kidding me? We fucking pay 500 bucks. Go fuck yourself. And the whole group starts piling on calling the marshal a bag of dick. It was, it was the most wild thing I've ever experienced.
Starting point is 01:13:06 So the point, so he walked like, yeah, five, ten feet away. And then he comes back, guns blazing, finger in the air. And I haven't seen somebody flick somebody off like... An adult, flicking off another adult. Unironically, yeah. Yeah. And so there was a little backstory. The only caveat is like, he was like, you screwed me yesterday too.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Does it like same Marshall? So I don't know what he would get at, but like it did not deserve this type of reaction. And so, Riggs, keep going because there's definitely more of this story. So they're all like, the Marshall's just like a fucking 80-year-old retired. guy with a mask on trying not to get coronavirus. Yeah, it's crazy. And he's just standing there like, and it's not the Marshall's policy. It's the, it's the court.
Starting point is 01:13:46 He's just like the messenger. He's like, no, no, that's just like the policy. And they're just, they're like, they're like viciously yelling at the guy as walking away. Like, what a piece of shit you are. Go get your fucking head pro. Fuck you. You bag of dicks.
Starting point is 01:13:58 We're like, oh my God. So this is going on. Meanwhile, we're walking up. And we're with the fourth guy in our group is this guy, Newman. who Newman is a Jersey guy. He's very much a beat. He, he, he, um, what beats to his own drum? Is that the beats to his own drum?
Starting point is 01:14:19 He's a little bit in his own world. Um, and, and he is walking up and he's kind of a tall, lanky guy. And he's walking up with a very curious look, just looking over at these guys. Oh, boy. And giving him kind of a look. He's got a very noticeable gate. So like the way he walks, his like arms kind of. to like wiggle at the side.
Starting point is 01:14:40 Like you can see he's moving over there. Yeah. And he kind of just is a guy who does whatever he wants to. And he is. He's just kind of meandering over there. And so one of the guys then looks at Newman. And he goes, what the fuck are you looking at?
Starting point is 01:14:51 And our buddy Newman goes, I can fucking hear you from two holes over. What do you mean? What am I fucking looking at? Fuck you. And then they start yelling over to us. Like, you don't fucking look at us like that. Fuck you guys.
Starting point is 01:15:03 They're just like loose cannons. So I will defend Newman in the fact that he did not, he didn't drop the F-bomb twice. So I'll defend him. He goes, he goes, I can hear you from two fairways over. And then that point, this other guy from the other side of the fairway or T-box, rather, goes, suck a dick. And then he goes, better yet, suck a bag of dicks. They can't stop talking about a bag full of dicks. It was crazy.
Starting point is 01:15:29 It was crazy. So then we're all up there, like, are we about to fight these guys at Pebble Beach on the 6th? tea over nothing and we're standing there and I mean we at lurch who's a big fellow so like maybe we'll be okay but if they come charging it's like we're not a crew that's gonna be in a fight at pebble beach and these guys are kind of backing away like yelling up and you're right like i don't think newman was throwing f-bounds anybody did say we could hear you from two holes over yeah you could hear you get some tall and then and then somebody else from our group is like you guys stink like why are you playing the back tees you guys stink you're not even and it was just such a crazy
Starting point is 01:16:06 seen for these guys. I've never seen something escalates so undeservedly in my life. Like there was no reason for it to escalate. They just started screaming F-bombs and flicking what adult human being in an ironic way.
Starting point is 01:16:22 So when he walked another adult like point blank. Yeah. He was like pumping his middle finger at the guy and like walking at him like this and I literally could not believe it where if there's anything that I'm doing while playing golf.
Starting point is 01:16:37 It's I'm not, I'm just letting everybody do their own thing and I don't want to be part of it. But they were, like, you could hear them from around the golf course. This one guy had, like, great spike there with a visor and was like, was noticeably angry, very angry. And then we, I mean, long story short, we both kind of like just, like, walked away. But that is an experience I'll never forget. I almost got, me and my buddy's almost got a fight in Delaware. Have I talked about my little Delaware trip?
Starting point is 01:17:02 When's the last time we did this podcast? I know. It seems like three months ago. Yeah, I don't know. No, you didn't talk about it. You didn't. So I went to Delaware with a bunch of my buddies, and we played this one place called Baywood Greens.
Starting point is 01:17:13 It's in Delaware. By the way, Delaware, we all have to go there. It's like a hidden gem of golf on the Northeast. Like, never thought to go to Delaware to play golf. Public tracks, every single one of them, immaculate. Crazy good golf. It looks phenomenal. This one place Baywood Greens, like, has a sign in front that says they put, like,
Starting point is 01:17:31 a million dollars into their flowers each year. And the place looked like Augusta. I mean, there's Azalea. on your drives all the way to each hole. Crazy. But anyway, at this golf course, these guys were in front of us, and it was a cart path only type of course,
Starting point is 01:17:45 so they wanted to keep everything pristine in the fairways and the rest. And the guy in front of us was doing this thing. We had eight guys. We're doing like a mini-rider cup thing. So much fun. Love that whole scenario, like going back home,
Starting point is 01:17:57 knowing what you need to do the next day. We ended up playing like a barefoot scramble, like with the blood-arange sky, like trying to beat the, trying to beat the sun going down one night. We ended up going eight under each. We ended up having nine holes. Eight under for a scramble, four verse four.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Unreal golf we were playing. Bombing drives, hitting long butts. So much fun. Anyway, we're at this place Baywood Greens, and these guys in front of us are doing the thing where they're like they're meandering out to the fairway. They'd go look at their ball. They'd walk back to the car.
Starting point is 01:18:27 We're like, oh, my God. Like, are you fucking kidding me? Like, let's go. Keep like, pick it up. We're not saying anything to them yet. And they're falling in front of us. like legitimately falling. I'm like, there's like 180 bucks or something I have to play this round of golf.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Like, it's crazy that these guys are reacting like this. They're going so slow that this Ranger comes up to us and he just gives us this look and we're sitting in the car and he just looks at me and he just like frown. He's like, I'm sorry, guys. I can't get anything going up there. He's like, they, because I said one word to them and they were throwing beer cans at me. I was like, what? What's happening up there?
Starting point is 01:19:01 So all of a sudden these guys start dropping shit. They're dropping their range finder and my one friend. Ian picks it up and like gives it to him. Then they drop their head cover and like the guy comes driving back and he kind of looked like kids. He had like a kid's look to him. And he had his voice too. And the guy and finally my friend Ian's like, are you like, can you guys fucking like get
Starting point is 01:19:18 it together? Like this is the fifth thing you guys dropped. We've been waiting on you all day. It's a six hour around like pick it up. And the guy goes, I'm fucking sauced out here. He's like, I've been drinking all goddamn day. Like as if that's these dude, he's like, and he said at one point, he just kept saying I'm sauced out here.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And he's like, you're going to tell me to move forward. He goes, I can't even see straight. He gets out of the cart. And I'm like, we're on the other side of the fairway. And we're like, is he not about to get in a fight right now? The guy gets out of the cart and he looks them right and got, I'm sauced out here. I've been drinking all goddamn week. So apparently these guys played 18 holes and just went back out.
Starting point is 01:19:55 And no one could do anything about it. They played 36 holes, didn't pay for the second round and just went out to the golf course. They took total control of Baywood Green. No one had any control over these guys. just went out and played. They've lost control. They were green. The old Rangers, like, I don't know what to do it is.
Starting point is 01:20:10 He's got to have been here all goddamn day. They've been a problem and no one's going to fight them. It was crazy, man. I'd never seen anything like that. It was just like, how do you get that drunk and that confrontational and around a golf with complete strangers behind you, the point where, like, it was going to be an eight-on-four fight? Like, we all started to slowly walk over there as if it was going to be like anchorman
Starting point is 01:20:30 where they start taking up all their weapons and they're like, Did you bring a fucking torch? Triedon. Tried it. Where'd you get a Trident? Jesus. I don't know what's going on people on golf courses lately, but fuck. COVID agitated.
Starting point is 01:20:47 I don't know. Try to get people better. Those guys in Pevel yelling at like a 90-year-old Marshall is. It was so bad for the guy. Right. I guess Marshalls just get disrespectful. The guy I tell her it was like an 85-year-old dude, too. They said he was throwing beer cans at them.
Starting point is 01:21:02 To not have respect for those guys, it's just like, He's just doing his job. Just relax. Just keep it easy. If you're the guys telling that story later who were middle finger pumping the guy. Oh, my God. You're telling that story later. And someone asked you like, what was it over?
Starting point is 01:21:15 And they're like, well, they wouldn't let us play the U.S. Open T's. It's like, all right, buddy. Just fucking relax. All right. Just have a good day out there and don't get an elderly person. It was wild. It was just surprising. I've never seen something to elevate like that for no reason.
Starting point is 01:21:30 The other thing is there's like a process to do it. Like if you're like a plus two handicraft. you can literally just like ask the pro and then you get approval to play those back teeth and so the guy asked him he's like did you get approval to do this and he was like no and then it fucking went off the rails it was wild it was unlike any of ever seen before we just could we talked about it the whole trip we're just like that as in the fuck but speaking of plus anikas i played against a plus two yesterday and i got 14 strokes how'd you do i won the match well yeah we won the match well me and my buddy he was also like a scratch but i played well but it was just crazy
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'm the first T. So I'm a 10.1. And at this place, Terry Valley, I'm a 12. And he's like, yeah, you get 14 today. I was like, and it was so funny sitting in the cart. I was like, oh, I stroke here. And then the next hole I beg, oh, I stroke here, guys. And someone finally was just like, you stroke on every hole except for four of them.
Starting point is 01:22:20 So let's just not, like, we'll figure it out. But like every hole I was still surprised. I'm like, oh, I stroke here. And then you stroke every hole. Right. It's like, you should be like I don't stroke here. That's exactly what they said. They're like, the next thing you make an announcement is when you don't stroke
Starting point is 01:22:34 because we don't want to hear about it anymore because you're hitting greens and two and like you're getting two strokes. It's like crazy. When I go back to Jersey, I'm going to play this kid, Chris Goddrop, who's a Rutgers player, but he's a plus five, I think. So I just tell every time we text, I just say I'm getting 31 strokes. I don't know how much better is he's a plus five. He's like somewhere in that like range.
Starting point is 01:22:58 So if you like if this kid, if Kisner keeps his his handicap, how, much better could he possibly bid. So he was a, I think he was like first team, all big 10. He might have been first team all American. Like he's a sick golfer. He's up at the best collegiate golfers. I mean like Kisner would obviously beat him by, but, like, I don't know. He would just beat him.
Starting point is 01:23:16 So like Kiz is a plus eight plus 10? No, no, but I don't know. I don't, yeah, I'm not going to do this conversation. I'm going to actually back out of this conversation. I think Phil keeps, Phil keeps his handicap for, so we can play a member guest tournaments, which is amazing. and like local club tournaments and I think he's like a plus seven something
Starting point is 01:23:34 so like you know I know that like in reality that might be like oh he's only two shots better but like you really put this plus five out there at you know in a PGA tour event and like kids is going to beat him by 20 shots you know and so it's like that's my guess but yeah and then we were also I mean they were our host at Cybers was saying that he like somebody hosted recently was like a plus two handicap
Starting point is 01:23:56 and went out there and shot 85 the guy was like no I'm really good at my home club so it's like You just like, don't know. But yeah, plus five or plus two is fucking golf. Yeah, that's. Ooh, it was really. I think the guy I played with shot 68 yesterday, just such a different game than what I played.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Just such a different golf game than what I played. Just tea to fairway to green to two putt. A couple one putts mixed in there and the game's over. Go grab yourself a drink. I want to bring up, I would talk about numbers really quick. I read a stat the other day. It was 4th of July.
Starting point is 01:24:26 These fucking guys are eating hot dogs like absolute animals. Shout out to my friend. who said he could eat 15 hot dogs in 10 minutes last year during 4th of July. He ate four hot dogs. It was one of the worst performances ever put on by any individual in America. It was the worst thing I've ever seen. I put it on my live Twitter. Everyone was roasting me, roasting him.
Starting point is 01:24:45 It's one of the most embarrassing things that's ever happened to me. He ate four hot dogs. And he almost puked after the fourth one. This fucking website, Google.com, tried to tell me that there are, that the council, whoever the council is, the council is, the council. estimates Americans consume 20 billion hot dogs a year, which equates to 70 hot dogs a person in America a year. And now that has to be, and I'm going to put my foot down on this, the most incorrect factual statement, like they're claiming as a fact, the most incorrect
Starting point is 01:25:23 statement of all times. We have four people here right now. Not one of us even comes close to eating 70 hot dogs a year. I try to do the math. I maybe eat 15, 20, maybe. I bet I eat eight hot dogs a year. I don't eat hot dogs. Right? No.
Starting point is 01:25:45 You have one every couple golf rounds, maybe, right? Like most of the time, it's just like a drink and like some nuts or like some checks mix or something. Maybe you bring a protein bar. You don't get a hot dog that often. Maybe you stop at a hot dog stand right here at Home Depot and East Meadow. And you get the two water dogs with the cheese on it and the sourcrout and the mustard. You maybe get a cream soda to mix it in.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Man, did I just give you guys a look into me and my dad's? Like, my dad used to bring me there all the time. I mean, I ate too many hot dogs. But even at that point, maybe I'm at eight, nine for a couple weeks, a couple months. Then it becomes a winter. Who the fuck these hot dogs in the winter? Maybe you boil a couple. Like, oh, it's a hot dog.
Starting point is 01:26:24 That's cute. I'm wondering if the math is right. Like 70 of, it can't be right. 70. Someone tried to tell me that it's such a, someone emailed, someone, uh, DM me and was like, I have about 250 hot dogs a year. He's like, I eat like, he goes, it's a, it's a really cheap meal for people that don't have that much money and we just boil them like every other night and we eat hot dogs.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Oh, there's guys, are you? That made me, that may be bad. But now there's, that's the thing. There's got to be people out there like that who are taking over for guys like me. So he, like if he eats 140, if he eats 140 hot dogs a year, he's two people. But I think he's the, in like one sitting, I'll have like four or five hot dogs. But you don't have hot dogs for another couple months after that. No, no, not a couple months.
Starting point is 01:27:08 But like on a summer night, like you eat one hot dog and it's like a baby appetizer. I agree. Because you're hungry and you have four and then you're whatever. You're in the summer. I know, but I'm just saying I feel like I'm on the upper echelon. So I'm trying to figure out this map. Maybe 30, maybe 30 or 40 hot dogs. I mean the average, just saying the average.
Starting point is 01:27:27 That means you be slightly below, slightly above. It's just the most incorrect statement. I don't know. I'm higher. I'm higher. I think I'm higher. I think I'm 30, 40, 50 hot dogs a year. Come on.
Starting point is 01:27:41 I think I'm so much. How would you not be? If you do like, if you do, okay, you don't have a hot dog. Like, what percentage of rounds of golf do you have a hot dog? The most unappealing picture of me recently was someone screenshoted when we did 18 holes against Kizzer was me eating a hot dog at Piner's number two. And that's the first hot dog I've had in a long, 10% of the rounds, I have a hot dog?
Starting point is 01:28:01 No, mine's way higher. I would say 30 or 40% of the rounds. 30 or 40% you're having a hot dog during a row. Yeah, I would say, yeah, why is that so crazy? I just don't think so. I mean, I've played with you guys who haven't eaten hot dogs that much. Like, we don't need hot dogs. I get hot dogs all the time on the golf course.
Starting point is 01:28:17 We have a hot dog. But here's it. So, hold on. So hot dogs mess you up. So I've done a couple of these hot dog sausage competitions. I did eight. Of course, you have. I've done eight sausage. at Fenway Park, bread included, and I made it in eight innings or seven and a half
Starting point is 01:28:36 innings and then went right home because I was so filled with sodium. I've got a picture of it. You said my face looked like I went eight rounds with Tyson and all he found was my face. It's so swollen. At the end of it, I can't even turn around to like the people behind me are applauding me. So then I try to do a hot dog competition. I think I tried to do like 20 hot dogs in an hour or something like that. And I got to like 13 and I, my shut down. My body was destroyed.
Starting point is 01:29:06 So hot dogs are pretty hard. Yeah, that's a lot. We're going to forget about this, but starting now, start counting your hot dogs. I have a good picture. July 6th, 2021,
Starting point is 01:29:15 we're going to do a count a hot dog. I've eaten, I know it right now. I've eaten six hot dogs this summer. Yeah, my problem is like, I look at that number of 70, and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:29:29 it's a competition like I'll get the 70 hot dog it's not like no you can't try no I don't my mind doesn't look at it as like oh no I'll just eat I don't eat I'll eat I'll get the 7th I'll wrap this thing up I'm going to count my hot dogs I think 70 is a doable thing I think it's more than you guys think we'll be back on Thursday everybody go get some transfusion go get some new Amsterdam vodka go get yourself
Starting point is 01:29:54 little oars and alps we'll be back on Thursday they got back to back weeks now in at the Memorial or at Mearfield in Ohio. So we got more golf to watch. I believe Tiger should hopefully be playing next week. Usually plays Memorial. So we got that to look forward to. Have a lovely week.
Starting point is 01:30:10 Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.

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