Fore Play - Bryson Wins The U.S. Open, And We Were There

Episode Date: September 22, 2020

We react to Bryson DeChambeau pulling off the ultimate vindication and dominating the U.S. Open at Winged Foot. Riggs & Frankie we’re onsite, spoke to Bryson, interviewed him, and even got a pizza review from him. In From The Gallery, if you got to play Augusta but had to use only special Augusta golf balls in the shop at $200 a piece, how many would you buy???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Are you recording an intro because we've never, I don't know in the history of the show that we've had to do this because usually we're very careful about this. But there's obviously a bunch of U.S. Open chatter. It's a bunch of Bryce and Des Chambot chatter. We were supposed to have him on the show. Today is Monday. And he ended up canceling all of his media.

I don't think it was malicious. I think he just won the ES Open yesterday. I think he did a bunch of media last night. I think he woke up and was just like, yeah, I'm actually not going to do this New York media tour. And we'll see what happens down the road. So on this podcast, we did a ton of like, ha ha, we'll talk about it with Bryson type stuff.

And then we're just not going to do that. So we had to kind of re-record the intro. And then I think we're just going to kind of throw it to the podcast. And then at the end, we're going to throw in some from the gallery stuff so that you folks get more than a 45, minute podcast or we talk about how we're about to talk to Bryson's Mesh. At one point, I tell Lurch to put a pin in this question you have for Bryson. So make sure you ask him, we have him on the show. So keep a pin in that lurch for however long it takes for us to get him on the show. Just make sure

you remember it, okay? Yep, I'm going to tuck that right inside the brand. And next time we get him on the show, hopefully that happens, I'll certainly bring it up. The next point or next person I'd love to hear from is actually Frankie Borelli. It's not often that I'd love to hear from him. But I'm just wondering if your boner is still full or has it dwindled a little bit? Where do you stand? We're saying it's not malicious, but like the second I see him even answer a question for someone else, I'm back, like he's the biggest asshole of all time. It's a complete roller coaster with this guy and there's no denying that.

Like it's always going to go up. We're at a peak right now, but we will go down. If he even so opens up a Snapchat from someone, I'm done. Like, he better be, his phone better be in the ocean. Like, we legitimately had this locked in. I was there when the person locked it in, 1230, we're ready to rock. And then there's just an email like, yeah, that's actually not happening today. Like, okay, well, we just fucking did a whole podcast about how it was happening yesterday.

I wrote a blog this morning that the blog title was, here we have Bryson D. Chambot, fake sleeping with the U.S. Open trophy because a picture came out of him laying in bed, clearly fake sleeping with the trophy. and I can whether I can neither confirm nor deny whether that blog would have gone up this morning if we were going to interview him today. That's all stuff. Look, it's very funny because people are going to now listen to nearly an hour of us talking about Bryce and DeShambo and we are just gung-ho. We're like we're totally backtracking. We're covering our tracks. We're defending ourselves for being spineless. And then we just get this email at 520 this morning. It's like, yeah, that's actually just not going to

happened today. And so take that with a grain of salt, understand that that's all that's happened. Why don't we put in the little interview that we did outside the clubhouse? So at least we have some sort of Bryson voice in here. Do that. Do that. Put that in there so we can claim he's on this show. So we'll put on Bryce DeCM.O. And then you can hear from us again after that. That's a good idea. All right. We're here with the champ. I mean, he's going to use open. How's it feel? Well, guys, it's an honor. I've worked my whole entire life for this. People don't realize how much energy and effort gets put into this to ultimately win a major championship. Not only that, but the team that's behind me. I mean, Brett, Tim, my caddy,

takes all my crap all the time. He works his butt off. Connor works his butt off. Chris, Chris Como, Mike Shai, they work really, really hard to support me and do their best. And Chris this week is, this whole year has ultimately helped me understand that I can do this and I was able to do it. I can't thank him enough. And thank you guys for the support. How much of it is validation, right? I mean, people talk a lot about the process. People are talking about your body.

Is he going to get, is he doing it overdoing it? Is it going to be injuries? How good does it feel like that? I've got this unbelievably signing trophy, by the way. How much of it is kind of validation? This is all I need to say. My man, that thing is just so sunny. I got a question about what do you have to say to the members here?

You shot six under. A lot of people are saying it might be two over, four over, five over. He shot six under par, only round under par of the day. What do you say to the members? I feel bad. I'm sorry. I kind of overpowered it. Sorry, guys.

But thank you. You guys, I know this golf course is historic. It's shoot, Ben Baxter and Andrew Buchanan, SMU, won the four ball here. So kind of had to happen. So if you were going to live to 1.30 before, are you going to be like 260 now or how does this work? 340. 340. Okay.

What's next? What's the, you know, what happens? Are we going to celebrate? Are we going to celebrate? But I'm going to be back in Denver tomorrow on the next day working out with Greg Roscoff. Well, altitude training? Yeah, I guess. You know, it so happens that he just is out there, but people can call it altitude.

training but then I'm be trying to have 48-inch driver as well so yeah right you shut me like I try and say oh Bryce is doing this and then you shut me up well here's here's the thing perform I'm not trying to I'm not trying to hurt anyone I'm not trying to say this is the way to do it or anything I'm just doing my absolute best and if people don't like it that's okay uh everybody has their own unique way phil does it differently Tiger doesn't differently we all do it differently and I think at the of the day if you can go win a major championship that's all that needs to be said show me this metal what's going on with this metal so that thing's a coolest part yeah just got a lot to hang in about oh i did i'm sorry no it's okay it's a jack nicholas metal sorry my fingers are all messed up from

the other work i do but uh this is a pretty special one i've got the u.s amateur gold medal as the 2020 jack nicholas uh medal which is signifies the u.s open champion 120th u.s open champion uh what was it like coming down the stretch out there. Oh, so nervous. You didn't look nervous. No, no, no, no. I try to play that game, but there are definitely nerves there. And I'll say that Tim, my caddy, was just keeping me in the moment, lighthearted, and ultimately we just stayed steady and we said, look, every shot I've got to give my full attention to, we've just got to execute every shot the best I possibly can, and I was able to do

that, and I came out victorious. Awesome. Well, look, you're the U.S. Open champ. I know it's got to feel good. We appreciate you taking the time. you more tomorrow I think yes sir all right sir good work man appreciate it awesome it's uh us open it's concluded we're at wing for we've been here all week there's a lot to talk about there's a lot to break down this is one of those that brings an enormous amount of fallout of vindication of fodder people are going to be bringing up old quotes things that have been done over the last year over the last four or five years out here with bryson de shambo frankie and i are live from Wingfoot. We're actually in the, we're in like the dining room at Wingfoot. There's Geo's

bars right around the corner, maybe, I don't know, 30 yards away where Bryson DeShambo is just sitting with the trophy, drinking some weird thing and eating pizza. But it was a hell of a US Open. Bryson DeShambo, again, the guy that beefed up, the guy that was with the cameraman, the guy that said he's going to live to be 130 years old, all that good stuff, is now the US Open champion at Wingfoot, no less. What a day, gentlemen. Yeah, Bryson's eating pizza. We could see him eating pizza from where we're recording this podcast. It's an absolutely fake world in which we're living in. 2020 just not does not stop. It is relentless. Every time you think it's going to turn right, it turns left and it absolutely uppercuts you right in fucking chin.

You don't know what's coming. And then all of a sudden, you get to Wingfoot. We do this documentary on how hard the golf course is going to be. And the only person that fucking defeats it is Bryson DeCambeau with his 360-yard drives. He says he's too long for this golf course. his scientific methods. We've been on and off this guy like a roller coaster. I've never seen anything like it. He fucking comes in here. He walks around his goddamn U.S. Open Trophy.

He smacks us on the ass and says, let's go eat some pizza. How do you not love this guy? He's a mad scientist. I am so much fat. I am so far back on Bryce and Des Chimbo's side. It's fucking crazy. Listen, we've said our, we've had our differences with this guy. And like Rick said, people are going to bring up things.

They're going to pull out quote cards. They're going to say that we're the fucking spot. I enlist jellyfish people that no one's ever seen someone with less spine in their entire life. And that's true. Like, things change, right? Like, this is why I don't like old takes exposed. Like, at the time that I may have said things about Bryce and Des Chambot, that is what I was feeling at that time.

I now feel a different way. Yeah, and what I would say to those people is, what do you come to this podcast for? That's what you almost need to ask yourself. Do you come here for us to have a backbone and to be hardened journalist and to cast guys out and stick by our opinions when we're not feeling what a guy is up to? Or do you come here to have us normalize these professional athletes who do things that we could never dream of doing? Do you come here to listen to these guys, talk to us like they're normal guys, we get access

to these guys, we pick their brains, they bust our balls, we bust their balls, it's a fun back and forth. And I think that's what this podcast is mostly about, is people coming here, coming on this podcast, and being normal guys. And you can't do that is if you talk shit about someone, And then you refuse to be a spineless jellyfish if they show you even a microcosm of that they like you. So I think that's kind of, that's my stance on it. Yes, we've gone back and forth on Bryson a million times.

We'll probably go back and forth on him a million times from here on out. But the fact of the matter is he won the U.S. Open. He shut up all of the haters, including us, and that's just the way it is. Now we're hating on him for his golf game. So I respect Bryson. I think everything that he's done is amazing. I didn't have the ass-lapping pizza date that you guys did post the U.S. Open Trophy, so I'm sitting here from a different lens.

He's still not like my favorite in terms of everything that I saw on the camera. Now, am I like, you know, proud of him in one sense or another? Like, and I think what he did is amazing, yes. But is he my favorite golfer, like on tour right now? No. And that's where I sit. Yeah, I mean, I would say, too, that it's not like we, cover every player with a binary scale. It's not like we either love them or hate them and that's it.

Like all the things that have happened with Bryce and we have just simply responded to. And there are certain things when he commented on the Instagram and said like, good luck getting me on the show again simply because we laughed at Brooks Keppka's response of the abs and the four trophies and he only needs two more to make a six pack. We very much said, wow, that's not a very clear self-awareness. moment when Bryson berates some cameraman because he says he only wants to be filmed under his conditions. Like those things we still have the same takes on like Frankie's saying, I hate old takes because like, no, at the time that take is correct. My take would still be that those things

and the way that we weighed in on them are how I genuinely deep down as a person with a spinal cord felt and still feels about those moments. At the same time, like we have two years of having great relationships with Bryce and he came on the show he dropped his butternights comment to Frankie he gave him chipping lessons in the range where he genuinely was trying to help Frankie like I was rewatching that video earlier um as I was pulling up some of the history and trying to tweet out stuff to give people more information about our background with him and like he was deep into trying to help Frankie that wasn't like just to get views or cred or street credit and I do think he does stuff but like he was he at one point he got frustrated it was

telling Frankie like no ignore the fans like focus on this man because he wanted Frankie to get better. So I just would say that I don't think it's a binary scale. I don't think that it's like, oh, you said this one thing, one time about a certain incident. So you can never ever be happy for a guy again. I don't think that's the case. Now, people are going to hear Bryson on this show. We're recording Sunday night. It's late. There's a ton of travel coming up. So we're getting this out of the way. Then Monday, midday, we're recording with Bryson for 20 or 30 minutes. So that's coming up here in a few. We are like I said, in the clubhouse where there's Gio's bar right around the corner.

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is and it's shiny and he's got the white pants on and the whole look and just like fits right now. I mean, he's the U.S. folks going to be. He looks great. So he just fits. All right. All right. I agree. Keep it in your pants.

Okay. We, you know. He's coming on this show. So, uh, and I like, like, this is going to, like, we're going to have to keep up this, like, Googly-eye stuff like tomorrow, which I even know I am. But, like, right now I'm just like Googling over Bryson. And I hope that still is like an effect tomorrow. But, like, right now I'm on a Bryson high.

Like, you know what I mean? Like my brain hasn't like understood that like in this same very show we're going to be talking to Bryson, but that's in 24 hours. I never get. When did your spine start to waver? Was it the wink? I saw a tweet that he winked at you. When did it switch? Because like it was before he dominated the field today and was probably 20 strokes better than any other competitor.

Like his golf that he played today was absolutely outstanding. But when did it change? Because you parked an early boner. Lertie, I walked into this golf course this morning. I went, I parked in the maintenance yard. I saw my friends down there, the maintenance yard. They were all smoking cigars already at 11 o'clock, drinking beer. And I walked in and I just said, and I said a couple of my friends in there,

I said, anybody but Bryson today. And like, I got, you know, people are giving me fist. I'm like, anybody but Bryson. And everyone's like, all right, like, all right, Frankie. I see you over there. I'm like, anybody but bracing, let's go, let's go, let's go. I'm like whispering because he's here. And then, you know, I'm on the driving range and I'm watching him and Matthew

Wolf, which also, by the way, I want to get this out way, because I don't know how much we're going to talk about him. I mean, he played great, but Matthew Wolf was doing this thing on the range. He throws the, he finishes his entire range session, throwing golf balls at the pin. So he doesn't,

before he says up to that first tee at the years open, he threw about 20 balls. Very strange. I don't know if that's a feel thing. Some people say you're chipping's supposed to feel like you're throwing a baseball. That makes sense. But, but like he doesn't hit a shot and then walk up,

weird. So I saw them on the range, both guys that have had my differences with on the podcast. I don't know how, feel about both of them. One of them swings like a fucking weirdo. The other one is a weirdo. I just don't know how to deal with it.

So I didn't know who I wanted to win, but I had that anti-Bricon feeling walking in here. And I had that on my face. You felt beneath my mask. And I'm standing against a railing right by the first tee. And here, the axis here is outrageous. Like, it's just, he walks to the first seat at the US open. He passes just me.

Like, there's no one else. And I'm leaning up against a fence. And he does like a double take. Like, someone goes, like, go get him, Bryson. He goes, thanks. And then he looks at me. Stop. points kind of at me. It goes like, oh, there you are, and winks. And then proceeds to walk to the

first T. It was more of like, I know what you said to me about me, and I'm going to go win the U.S. Open, and I'm going to shove the trophy up your ass. Like, it was that kind of wink. It was like, watch what I'm about to go do wing. And I immediately treated like, I'm on fucking Bryson's side. So ever since then, like, if you give me just, if he even just like looked around me, I was going to be on Bryson's side, that's how fucking spineless I am. But yeah, I popped an early Bryson Boner and it stayed and it raged and it's still here. That was the first thing Frankie said to me as I walked over. He's like, bro, you don't, I'm team Bryson. I was like, what happened? Like what, what did I miss that could have occurred?

And it turns out that it was that. I spent most of the day in the media center. I mean, I had, especially on the front nine when those guys got back down to three under and two under through what, the eighth hole, I think it was. And then you had kind of Xander around even. you had Louis at one under. So I was like, man, I don't want to be out there stuck with one group. And there's not really, there's no fan reaction. So you're not going to know what's going on. You lose service.

So I was just kind of watching the media center for the first, you know, three-fourths in the round. And then when it was very clear, Bryson had a five-shot lead going into the last four holes. I was like, I want to go walk out there and check it. So I go out, I catch up, I'm watching with him. And then on 17, I mean, all of the USGA employees, all of the volunteers, all of the wingfoot members, just abandon the ropes. and are just standing right next to the 18th T. So I just went over there and was like,

oh yeah, we're just doing this. And we don't care about the ropes. And standing there on 18T, Bryson hits his T shot, and then everyone else kind of walks off, and Bryson's last behind them, and he's walking pretty slowly. And at this point, there's like 100 people around or something,

but he's walking up the 18th fairway at Wingfoot Golf Club, where Phil had his disaster, where Bobby Jones is famously won. He's done all of this stuff that everybody's criticized, and he's walking up the 18th Fairway, alone and no one's making a fucking sound. And it was honestly, I almost felt a little bit like, this is not correct. So I just blurt it out. I was like, I have to say something. So I can

blurt it out. I was like, add to boy, Bryston and gave like one of these things. And he just looked right over at me and gave like a thumbs up and a smile. And it was the only thing that was like, like the only sound that was recorded. But I was like, there's no way that someone can walk up this iconic of a place and there not be an absolute peep. And then you can tell like how pumped he was when he won the damn thing, when he made that par put on the 18th hole, when he actually hit his chip, I don't know if they cover this in the coverage, but he hit his chip and it caught that backstop and then bold to the middle of green. It was very clear like he's going to win the tournament and he gave like a little fist pump right there of like, holy shit, like it's over.

So even without the energy in the crowd, it's always cool to see that emotion from the guys and Bryson and how much of kind of like a scientist or a robot or you want to call him to see that raw emotion seep out in a tournament without much emotion because there's no fans and everything. It was just cool to see and it made me like legitimately happy for the guy. You want to call me spymeless or whatever? It was like in that moment, I was just like, man, like good for you. That is so cool. You went out there. You did all hard work and you actually won the championship. It was awesome. Just looking at the trophy and I was just glistening just 20 yards away. He deserves it, right? Like he's been through the ringer, and he's the guy who committed to changing his body, so he could hit it further.

He at any point could have given up because people were talking shit about him or being too hard on him or saying it's not going to work or saying that he was going to get injured before he was able to win anything. But he didn't. He just kept plowing forward, swinging as hard as he could, drinking a bunch of protein shakes. And at the end of the day, it all paid off. All the shit that he's ever tried to do, whether you liked it or hated it. And we have hated a lot of it. It all just worked. This has been his ultimate goal from day one to be a major champion. And he did it at the U.S. Open at Wingfoot against an incredibly hard golf course,

an incredibly hard field. And he dominated, right? He won the thing by six strokes. He was the only guy under par today. So as much as you want to hate the guy and make fun of him for what he's been doing, he stuck to it. He stuck to his guns. And it paid off for him.

If you hate that, then you're just an irrational hater. And it's a hard way to go because he deserved it. He got it. And he shot all the haters up in an incredible fashion. Yeah, you're a dream. Hater. Like, if you hate that story, you're a dream hater because, yeah, maybe he's not like my favorite guy, not like Googly eye and drooling like Frankie might be. But I totally agree in that sense of like what he accomplished was amazing. How he went about it was incredible. And yeah,

Riggs, they covered it in the broadcast where he hit that chip way above and it came rolling back. And as soon as it made like the turn and coming back through the hole, you saw him give a little like fist pump and he was pumped and I was happy for him. I mean, it was exceptional what he did. He was, I mean, I think he was eight or nine strokes better than anybody else in the field. Like, his, he was truly amazing. And now that became boring because there was nobody else in contention. You were like, they both made Eagle on nine.

You were like, oh, my God, this is going to be a match play event going down the stretch. Yeah. And it just came down to Wolf. I don't even want to say he faded. He just played the course like everybody else was playing it. And Bryson just dominated the course like nobody. like nobody else was doing it. So, you know, it became anti-comatic at the end, but it was pretty amazing. Yeah, I mean, he, in terms of the, you know, it was funny because there was,

it wasn't like a wire-to-wire victory. What's Craig bringing it over here? What is this? Craig, what are you got to? Craig on the Zoom, show me. Show me. Show me what's going on here. I'm sitting in my apartment. I don't know where it is. U.S. Open. Open. U.S. Open. Open.S. Open. Open. And they're signed by the U.S. Open 120 champs. Those are awesome. It's beautiful. These are awesome.

Look at that Bryson signature. He's got a sick signature. He's got a great signature, yeah. Many won't. He does have a great signature. Those are sweet. So brand officer getting U.S. Open branding on the show. That's smart.

Good work, right? Very smart. He goes smart. Those are actually sweet shoes. So Bryson, it didn't feel until the tournament was kind of over like it was a like it was as dominant of a performance as it was, right? I mean, it wasn't wire to wire. He wasn't leading after the rounds.

He was always kind of in second going into the weekend. He was behind Reed. He was behind Wolf. It was pretty close at the turn. They both made Eagle on the ninth hole. So you're like, this is going to be an absolute. And then all of a sudden, you realize he beat, I think what Lurch was saying is he beat the stroke average today for the field by eight shots.

He was the only player under par for the tournament. He was the only player under par for the entire day. So he tees off in the final group, a couple shots behind Matthew Wolf, shoots the low round of the day by far. I mean, he was three under. No one else was better than even par. And all of the guys on this leaderboard that finished in the top five were five over for the day, three over for the day, three over for the day, three over for the day. So the people that played later in the afternoon, the people that were potentially in contention were five, six, seven, eight shots worse than Bryce and Deschambo was today. And he just never let up.

His stats were incredible. He hit 41% of fairways and regulation, yet he was third in strokes gained off the T. He gained 5.38 strokes on the entire field off the T this week because he just hits it far. Driving distance-wise, he was seventh hitting an average 325 yards. So his whole theory of like, yeah, being like accurate's great, whatever, but I'm just going to bomb the damn thing out there. it worked this week, especially because it didn't, everyone was missing fairways. Like, it didn't matter who you were. If you're Patrick Reed, who hits it like 280 or Kevin Kisner, who hits it like 250,

or if you're Bryson DeShambo, as a cheap shot of kids, he had the part of that. But if you're Bryson DeShambo and you hit it 330, like everyone's in the rough. So if you're just way farther up in the rough, it helps. And Bryson actually said that in his post-rower. He was like, yeah, actually the narrower fairways hurt the guys that are the more accurate drivers because no one can hit those fairways. Like, I don't care who you are. The fairways are too firm.

They're sloping. They're too narrow. The rough's ridiculous. So how many drives did we see that landed in the fairway bounced a couple times and they just ended up five feet from the first cut in a horrific lie? And it's like, yeah, if you're going to do that, you need to be 330 out or 320 out off the T, not 270, 280 out. And that ended up being a huge difference.

He was second in strokes gain short game. So people talk about Bryson. he's beefed up, he's jacked, he's got the biceps, he looks hilarious. We're talking about him, like, wielding that trophy around. Like Frankie said, like, it's a little portable speaker from JBL or something like that. Great company, by the way. And no, he's like, he's got the best touch. I mean, he was second in strokes game, short game.

He was 18th and putting. So, like, if you hit the ball that far, if you have that good of touch, his greens regulation, greens regulation, he was fifth. So, like, all of his stats were just really good. And what happens when you do that is you win the U.S. over by six shots. So it was just complete and total fucking domination from Bryson. And there's really no choice but to respect that.

And now everyone's going to wonder, like, is this going to completely change the game again? Like when he won in Detroit, we talked about it. It was like, well, can he actually do it a major? I mean, he did it at Wingfoot. Holy shit, that's a lot to's a lot to fucking take it. You went on a fucking tangent day. That was unreal.

That was one hell of a fucking breakdown. I was about to throw it over to Trent out. Did you see Aurora's comments after in terms of the storyline guy? I saw you put something in our group chat about it where he was saying that that's not, what did he say? I don't want to misquote him, but I'm probably going to as I paraphrase, something about like, that's not how you're supposed to win a U.S. Open or as soon as I read them, I've been followed, we've all been following Roy for long enough, where I'm sure those content, those quotes aren't as biting as they appear in the written text.

Totally agree with that. That's what I was waiting for you to get to, because there's no way, Rory said this in the context that people are thinking about it. So he says, I don't really know what to say because that's just the complete opposite of what you think a U.S. Open champion does. Look, he's found a way to do it, whether that's good or bad for the game. I don't know, but it's just not the way I saw this golf course being played or this tournament being played. It's an interesting quote. I think it's way out of context, I'm sure. But nonetheless, it's, you know, if you're looking for clicks, you're getting them with that. I think I also saw an extended quote where he said he proved everybody wrong.

He proved me wrong. Like sort of giving him props for what he's done. But yeah, no, as much as I would love for Rory to just at a left field attack Bryson D. Chambo's U.S. Open victory, I don't think that's what's going on. But Riggs brings up a good question. Are we now going to see people trying to do something similar to what Bryson did? I don't know if anyone will ever commit that type of – that's just – you're abusing your body by – by putting on that much weight in that short amount of time. But I'm sure guys will try to find ways to hit it longer.

I remember Tony Fee now, he noted Bryce and has like an inspiration to try to hit it further. So I don't know if it's going to change it that much, but it's certainly got to be in the back of guys' minds. Like, how can I improve if this guy's getting such a decided advantage by hitting the ball 30, 40 yards further than everybody else? It's something they're going to think about for sure. Tony's is funny because he just has to bring the club just further back. which I think it's hilarious.

Like he just needs to stop being so short and he hits the ball like significantly further. He showed that. He's like, all I got to do is just cock it back a little more. But, you know, everything you guys are saying is correct. And I don't think that it's really going to change the game of golf. I don't think anyone's going to be able to do what Bryson does. I think the majority of golf for the rest of time is always going to be what it is right now. I don't know how much further it can get.

Like, I'm sure. I think like these guys are to the point of no return. Like there's no – you can't get any further than where golf. is right now. It's gone from like the Bobby Jones days and stuff to now. And I don't think you're ever going to see like more of an increase. They're hitting it as far as you possibly humanly can. They're already talking about dialing the ball back. Like Bryce is doing the most you can possibly do in the game of golf. We are seeing probably the longest hitter and like the only person in golf history that's going to be able to do this. I genuinely think that. I think he's doing something

that no one else will be able to replicate ever again. They're either going to change the equipment or changed the ball or something, he's going to put up numbers that are just never going to be touched. Yeah. I mean, I think that Rory's comments, he's on to something. And I think it's almost foreshadowing. And what that means, right, is like, Rory's a very perceptive guy. We've talked a lot about his comments. He's got the Zen approach.

He reads books on different subjects so that he can learn more about the world. And I think that he understands, right, that when you, talk U.S. Open. It's about you can't miss fareways. If you do the rough is too ridiculous. The greens are too firm. So if you miss fairways that badly, you eventually will be punished. And instead, Bryson just took out driver, ripped it as hard as he could. Matt Wolfe, who hit it even farther than he did, just took out driver and ripped it as far as he could. He hit like 10% less fairways this week than Bryson. But he was averaging 33 yards off the tee, which was second. And he ended up.

up finishing, you know, second in this tournament. So it didn't matter if you were accurate, right? Like, you just had to fucking pound the golf ball out there. And that was the only way that you were going to compete. And I think that what Rory's comments were saying is, like, there is a sect of the golf world that very much thinks is this bad for the game of golf that we're allowing people to just smoke it out there. It doesn't really matter if you're drawing it or cutting it. It doesn't really matter if you're finding the fairways and figuring out that if this Fairway moves right to left. I have to hit some draw to hold the fairway because they're firm. No, none of that matters. And that's sort of the artistry and the beauty of the game that a certain

sect of golf wants to protect. And if Bryson de Chambo and Matt Wolf, again, like Matt Wolf could have easily just like played around like Bryce did today and won. And we'd be saying we'd really be forced to say the same thing because even though we talk about the protein shakes and all that with Bryson, like Matt Wolf hits it, was hitting it farther this week. Dude, on nine, he flew by Bryson. flew by him. Like Bryson puts it so high up in the air that it doesn't get the rollout.

It puts it on a little bit more of a laser. And it just, it blew like 25 yards by it. So like, it's crazy. Being here, we've been to a bunch of fucking tournaments at this point. But,

and this is a championship. I know Craig's going to come fucking, like, behead me or something. If you say tournament around here, it's nuts. Fucking, and you stand on the T

and you're like, can't believe these guys hit the ball the way they do. But I, I was more surprised this week just because we were able to get so close at how much, like, when you actually follow a group, they actually hit their drives. Like, it wasn't, it wasn't something that I've never seen before. I felt like a couple of the drives were like regular people drives. They hook them. They put them into the trees.

They push them out right. Some of them aren't that high. Some of them are low misses. Like, I was stunned to see, like, misses, right? And, like, consistent misses throughout the tournament, the championship. Fuck. but then you watch wolf and bryson and they just it's it's something i've never seen before i can't even equate it dude wolf on like two or maybe even i think it was on the second hall hit a drive

that like i just couldn't believe how far it went it was it just was it went into the sky and never came back and like it's just i i i don't know i don't know how these guys fucking do it with confidence they step up i i texted someone i said imagine stepping up to the fucking and hitting the ball like Matthew Wolfe does with that fucking swing and being confident that you can hit it where you need to hit it and not hitting that ball sideways. Imagine with that little cock thing. Imagine being confident in that. I just don't know.

I mean, Bryce is the same way. He swings as hard as you possibly can. And if that is just like an inch, much less than an inch off, it's just, it's going into Nowhereville. But like Riggs alluded to earlier, like if you, even if it's going to Nowhereville and it's going into the deep rough and wing foot, if you're, 40 to 50 yards in front of the guy who did the exact same thing that you did, you're going to have a decided advantage. But you're right. When you watch Bryson and Wolf tee off, Bryson has squeaky shoes

when he tees off. His feet move so fast that his shoes squeak. And it makes you look up at the TV if you're looking at your laptop or your phone. It's very evident how different his driver's swing is than everybody else on the TV. It reminds me through his hip. He like when Bryceon swings. He doesn't, like, rotate his hips through and into, like, his front hip and leg. He literally spins off his front heel. He, like, goes up onto his heel and then just pivots his leg out there when he swings as violently or is he does.

It's crazy. It's crazy. But it makes sense he won. I mean, if he can bond out there two miles and then just take his meat muscles and gouge it out of whatever rough he's in, like, he should have a good chance to win. And I guess the question is if the game is going to change or if they're going to roll back the ball or whatever. Like how many guys are going to do what Bryson is doing?

And I don't think there's that many. Maybe none. He might be the only one. I think it comes down to if another upstart does it as well. So like I think people will let Bryson go on their merry way. But like if say like Harris English just to throw a name out there that like, you know, just had a great finish and it's kind of a comeback player. I think he won a couple years ago a couple times.

But now good finish. If he all the solidly balks up and goes crazy and coming in the next year, I think that's when you start to see like momentum because then the top guys are looking over their shoulder not one but two guys. And I think that is where like real change will happen. I think Bryson will let swim along and do whatever science he's doing to his body and the changes he's implemented. I think of another guy comes along is where you'll see the like the big players, the big names, like look over their shoulder and be like, we got something. The thing I do hate is that people act like Bryson was a complete slouch before he gained all the weight. Like this is a guy who, I mean, he won the John Deere Classic.

Like this is a guy who's been winning tournaments for a long time. And now that he's just added this extra win. Big tournament. Big tournament. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's added all this extra weight now. He's now he's just better.

It's not like he was some shit golfer before. Got into like the Chris Evans Captain America thing, bulked him up. And then he came out of better golfer, or the best golfer in the world. He's been a good golfer. He's just a better golf for now. I mean, he won the U.S. Ammoner. and then he had, I think, five PGA tour wins, including a couple playoff victories.

And then I think now he's at seven wins with the Detroit victory and the U.S. So you're right, Trent. Like he was a really good player, which a lot of this is kind of Brandl's point. Brandl has hammered players before for chasing distance for ruining their games because they go after something they don't have instead of kind of like refining what you have and realizing that that gets you a ton of success. Bryson abandoned all of that, changed his whole body. which is an absolute gamble.

Like you're making $5, $10, $15 million a year, maybe more when you factor in endorsements because he's a pretty big brand with what you got. And you were clearly good enough to win because he had won at the highest level. And then he potentially risked all of that to change his entire body to pick up 20 or so yards,

to change his swing, to change his game. And now he has come out. He has had phenomenal success, even leading up to this U.S. to Open. and then won the U.S. Open at Wingfoot in dominating fashion. He was in the mix big time at the PGA championship. So, like, it's working at majors. It's working everywhere.

So him going into Augusta is going to be fascinating. There's no rough there. So he's just going to hit his driver, like a psychopath, all over Augusta National. Like, Bobby Jones might come out of his grave and stab that fucking guy when he's walking around a main corner. It's going to be a scene. What about when he goes overseas? What about when he goes to the open?

and it's like rock hard and like there's just no trouble anywhere and he can hit the ball 400 yards and the wind gusting at his back he's going to be driving the ball 500 yards on degrees I can't wait to see this guy play everywhere it's fucking outrageous you know what I got a video game you know what I thought about today like when they made the rule that you can't ground your putter bryson has that putter going up his arm and it's like grounded into his foreaw I don't I like I guess I don't really understand the difference of that rule what do you mean you can't you think it's like anchoring you mean Anchoring, you mean.

Test and have, what, I think three points of contact is, like, the rule. Oh, like a belly putter. You can't, okay. Exactly. You can't put it on the ground. Yeah, no, no, no. Bryson's got that, like, putter, and it's, like, attached to his, like, huge forearm. It's embedded in there.

And I don't know. Like, I, that's, like, rules of golf are so very weird to me because I don't understand that at all. Rory made a comment about that, too. I just saw this tweet. Rory said, biggest brother in the world, it turns out. I'm just kidding.

No, he. So Rory said, I think it's brilliant, but I think he's taken advantage of where the game is at at the minute. With the way he approaches it, arm, lock, putting, everything. I'm not saying that's right or wrong. I'm just saying he's taking advantage of what we have right now. Bryson just made a speech. Bryson just made a speech and the whole crowd went nuts. His whole team went absolutely fucking crazy.

Take a mental note of that, Lurch, and ask him about that when we talk to him. That's going to be weird for people listening to the podcast. right now, but I would like to hear him answer that question. About the grounded putter? Yes. I will. You got to stop saying grounded. You got to stop saying grounded.

It can't be grounded. Anchor? Yeah. Sorry. The putter that's touching his forearm in a very lovely way and tight fashion. I did get confused by grounded when we started, but I figured out where you were going. Well, that's because to ground a club is a totally different meaning than what Lurch is saying.

So it's just total opposite, really. Fair. What is the term when Adam Scott would put the putter in his chair? Anchoring. Anchoring. Yeah, you're right. You're right. No, that's fine. We got there. We got there. Light on a Sunday. Correct. You're right. You're absolutely. We got there. We totally got there. So look, we're talking a lot about what Bryson's done with his body and what we are obsessed with now, all of us and everyone on PJ Tours on this as well, is monitoring your own body. You guys hear us talking about whoop for a long. time now, you know how much we love it. If you don't know, Woop is a fitness wearable. It provides personalized insights on the performance of your sleep, how recovered you are, how much stress you put on your body throughout the day from your workouts, all kinds of data and information

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10. What was your recovery at today? It was at 100%. No. You get 100? Yeah. That's insane. It's actually, but sometimes, sometimes you will get more, sometimes, sometimes,

Wow, you're 96. But I will say sometimes if you get, say you get six to seven hours of sleep, but the quality of the sleep is better. If you're at like, you get more REM sleep or the really, really deep sleep, it tracks all that stuff. If you get six or seven hours and you get a lot of that deep sleep, you can be in the 80s and 90s as well. It's not always about length, but 10 hours is 10 hours.

Turns out that he's been sleeping. You think he's been working at the course all this time? No, he's been sleeping. 100% last night in 96, 29. ago, whatever the hell it was. No, no. That 96% was the recovery from that sleep. Okay.

I'm going to tell you how little I've been recovering and sleeping that it said sleep needed was eight hours and 46 minutes. That's how much I needed. That's a lot. That thing goes up and up and up and up and up. That's a scary ticker. I've seen it before. It's like you need 11 hours of sleep to have decent recoverers.

Like, what do you, do you understand how many hours? That's just not a thing. You have to miss Tuesday because you've got to sleep right through it. I will tell you when you get 10 hours of sleep, like last night, I went to bed at such an early hour that I just missed like regular general conversational text messages from people that for like two hours worth. And they must have been like, why is Riggs being such a dick? Like, well, I won't you respond. I'm like, I was asleep three hours ago. But anyways, Woop.com, code four gets you 15% off.

Okay. The coverage, I thought the coverage was from what we could tell, what we could tell. what we could see pretty damn good. I believe they did the last hour. It was completely uninterrupted with commercials that I had heard, which is good. I was out on the course if that ended up being true. Seems great. I didn't really hear people complaining or bitching about the coverage much, which is great.

If you recall, NBC overtook the USO win from Fox, who's been doing it for the last handful of years. NBC's been doing golf forever. Johnny Miller, obviously, for a very, very long time. he's not there any longer, but overall NBC just knows what they're doing. So I'm not surprised that we didn't hear a ton of complaints. But overall, it sounds like the coverage, sounds like Wingfoot, you know, presented really, really well on TV.

I thought that it was, it was very noticeable, the slopes in the green, the put today from, I think it was Rory Sabatini, where he hit it like eight feet and then it just like stopped there nowhere near the whole. That was such a good foot. I was trying to think about if I had any critiques of the broadcast, but I can't think of one. And you're right, that's the sign of a good broadcast when you're just thinking. You know what helps is when there's not that many guys in contention?

Like when at the PJ Championship, there were 15 guys where it was like one of these guys could win it. By the time those guys made Eagle on nine, it was those two and nobody else. Lou Staysen was there for a while. Zander was there for a while. But as soon as those guys both canned those eagle putts, it was kind of those too and nobody else. And that always helps with the coverage. But other than that, I can't think of, yeah, the last hour was uninterrupted, which is something you don't notice until somebody like Riggs tells you. And you're like, oh, yeah, there were no commercials, which is great. Yeah, NBC, they know

what they're doing. Dr. Teddy, did you hear the Paul Azinger's comment at the end? Yes. I tweeted out what you're talking about. What he said, validation on steroids? Yes. out, Bryson. I mean, that was the one where even my, even my roommate Robbie Fox, my roommate Robbie Fox who doesn't, he's not that, he's not into golf. He was like, that's kind of a weird thing to say when you got a guy like Bryson who is just massive being like, yeah, this is validation on steroids. That was the one where, but that was, it was funny. Right. Totally. Totally. The one thing I'll say, and we were on the golf course the whole time, this has nothing to do

with what we're talking about. It's that just because, like, I didn't see the coverage that much. Like, we were on the golf course. What I've noticed is that they don't have the little guys walking with the scores here now. I guess it's a COVID thing, right? Like, usually it's like a volunteer or something. Like, they have the fucking scoreboards or whatever behind the players. And I don't know if this is, like, normal, but, like, on six, like, at six of wingfoot,

all the guys that walked up there, I was up there for maybe five or six groups. They all just stared at the fucking scoreboard. Like I'm talking like Rory, look at that scoreboard for like five straight minutes and like analyze it. Like who did one on what like hole. I wonder if like they're used to like walking down fairies and seeing what guys are at like in most tournaments. But now like every five holes or something like that when there's finally a board, they actually know the updates. Like they I feel like they don't know at all what's going on the golf course until they finally get to that scoreboard. Every guy at six looked at it and like literally analyzed it was like, okay, that guy did that.

And they were literally like moving their hands like pointing. Oh, yeah, he's over there. He's one under. It was crazy. I do, I find that very, very interesting because we, we don't really understand how much guys pay attention to the leaderboard and how much that changes sort of their mindset. Like, I remember one year won the Masters last year, in case you forgot, he did win the Masters last year. But his breakdown afterwards of the leaderboard and what guys were at and how he could hear a certain roar from a hole. So he knew that guy went from 10 to 11. under that sort of stunned me because like think about how much emotional energy and and focus it

takes to be that good at golf and to pull off those shots under that kind of pressure and then you're also doing fucking math for like six different guys and thinking about where a guy can get to what number can he get to what's he doing here he's probably going to bury that hole and going through that entire leaderboard so it is fascinating to think like Rory wasn't just looking at that leaderboard as a fan. Like, he was downloading that information to use it. And that, to me, is shocking. I like watching Franki's Wi-Fi is perfect.

Frozen rugs. I like how Frankie turns to race because I think they're in the same room and just rites them or does something stupid. It's amazing that one room is good in one room and bad for somebody else in the same room. Probably my shit computer. I have a little bit of a tummy ache right now. This is fucking crazy. What's the last thing he has heard me say?

I had seven. I've had seven of those Starbucks ice cream. Not Starbucks. Bondag bars? Yeah, Snickers. Snickers ice cream bars, frozen. You put them in your back pocket. You let them just suck and melt just a little bit.

And then sometimes you forget too long, especially when you're walking on the golf course that's back there. It gets a little too much, a little soupy back there. It's nuts. I've had eight of them in the last couple days. And boys, it's starting to hurt. Boys, it's starting to hurt. nothing like golf court nothing like golf tournament food well that's been that's always uh whenever

we've been at these tournaments pre-covid was the ice cream uh freezer you just track that puppy down and you eat as many as you can because it's free so we have brison coming up after this talk right now or is it going to be more this talk okay no no we can put them in wherever you want where you guys think we'll put them in no probably after it'll just let yeah we'll get to them Why do you ask? Are we going to talk about like the golf course? Like in like and or we're going to do that after Bryson. Frankie, we talk about whatever you want.

Hey man. It's a free country. Everyone knows a free golf box. Was there any talk when Harris English lost his ball off the first tee? Was there any internal rumblings about that? Did you guys hear about that being at the question? I just heard some media guys being like it's fucking bullshit. Like they're like that's crazy.

Like this guy's fucking, what was he like three off the lead at the town? All of a sudden you lose your golf ball. They have 30 people. looking for it, that's brutal. And then he started to play well, like in the middle of his round. And it was like, if he loses by one stroke, that's going to be a controversy. For sure. My biggest thing, and I said it to Riggs was like, like, how do you not just say, like,

the ball's here somewhere? Like, how is that a lost ball? Like, you know, it's here. We saw it. We can go on, can't they, like, go, like, back in the footage and see where it's, like, the vicinity of where it dropped? Like, I just don't get how that's, like, a lost ball. They had it, like, hitting the tree and then, like, shooting.

down somewhere, but you have no depth. Then like, dude, there was... Gotta be there somewhere. Like, I mean, somebody stepped over it on it or whatever. Like, I don't have no idea how you... I think with the, they should, like, with the no fans, and that's obviously the best way you find balls during these tournaments. But if there's no fans, like, give them more than three minutes.

Three minutes seems very unfair. Yeah, I will say, when you know where it went, there should be a, like, an unfindable, but we know. know it's their rule where it's like maybe a one stroke because that ball is not out of bounds, right? Like he didn't hit out of bounds. It's just, it's just right there. Like, everyone else that hit right there just gets to play it. And a lot of them make par. So why does he not get, because he just like got an unlucky, like, lie in the rough that people can't see. So it is a little bit ridiculous. That's one where like common sense prevails when you play with your buddies.

I'm like, no, no, we saw it go right here. Like, you're just like just play golf from here. And then Harris has got to get in that stupid cart and go off with that. back to the C-box and it's like, damn, man. And then he hits another one and that one goes in the rough. It's like, fuck, man. We just let him play from there the first time and not penalize him because this rough is crazy and there's no fans out here. Yeah, I felt bad for him.

Yeah, I felt bad for him too. That sucked. And we, you know, like I feel like we asked a few questions to Jason Gord, to other folks, to Steve Rabidoo about like, is there concerns that someone loses a golf ball just in the rough? And they're like, yeah, no, that's a concern because the rough. I mean, Frankie lost a drone battery. Like, we lost golf balls when you guys played that weren't bad D-shots.

They were just like 10, 15 yards off. We looked for a while. Like, yeah, we don't see it. You only have three minutes. Three minutes is nothing. Like, three minutes is a joke. We're supposed to do one-minute ad reads. We do ad-reads for like seven minutes.

And three minutes of that is looking for a golf ball in Impossible Rough. It's not speaking of kind of that's wing foot for you, Danny Lee, with the old six-butt on the 18th hole. there were rumors of this. There were rumors of this yesterday. There were, you know, because there's no fans, right? So there's no people aren't capturing it with cell phones. There's not massive groans. So Danny Lee's just on the 18th hole.

He's three over for the day. He's really having a pretty decent round considering the conditions. Comes to 18. He's got a four-footer, I think it was, for par after a pretty good chip. And he proceeds to six putt. Now, there were like volunteers and stuff that heard about this. The story goes that he didn't know what the hell he made. His caddy and his playing partner were like, yeah, we don't know how many shots that was.

Dude, he ends up kind of adding him up. They get there. They post a nine. He shoots a 78. And that's his score. But everyone sort of was like, well, what actually happened? We're going back to the track. And well, this morning, the video emerges.

And it was glorious. It was just a man who was so close. If he just makes that five footer, he walks off the golf course. He did a pretty good job at wing foot. taps himself on the back, fires a 73, no big deal. Instead, the course just mentally, emotionally, physically broke him to the point where he just putts that thing back and forth like Ernie L. is the first hole of Masters a couple years ago. And he was just done and it was an amazing video. Somebody documented first putt four feet. Second putt, five feet seven inches. Third putt, five feet ten

inches, fourth putt, six feet 11 inches, fifth putt, three feet nine inches, six putt from seven feet seven inches. Just an amazing frustration in a bottle. The first one that he jammed by was, that was pure anger. Also the third one, it seemed like he was ready to stay out there all day. He's like, I'll put around this fucking hole until probably authorities show up. They're going to have to arrest me to get me off this green. Like, I thought they were going to green him with a straight jacket coming off 18. Like he it was it was really something to watch and I was like why didn't NBC put that out right away that's that's viral internet goal. Yeah I don't know I was like I was amazed by

that too but then I feel like he had a mental battle too of like when he putted that away that like one that went much further than the rest away I feel like then you have the mental battle like well do I keep putting it because I really just want to get off this effing golf course but like if I do that I can't leave. So now I just need to make this thing, but I don't want to make it because I want to show my frustration. It was an incredible spinout, an incredible spin out.

I felt bad for him, but like, yeah, it was bad, but funny. Yeah, I mean, he was just broken, like wing foot broke him. And I like those clips, because you know all the maintenance guys and down in the shed are watching that just laughing.

They got a beer out. They're like, yeah, that's our guy. That's our golf course. Our golf course is dominating. I mean, we hadn't really gotten one like that. We've almost gotten the opposite with Zach Johnson's incredible putt, which I know you guys probably don't want to talk about. We had Hodecki's incredible chip that came back,

trickled into the hole. So you were almost getting the flip side of that, which is insane. But then today you got the Danny Lee footage and you got the Sabatini footage, which was those were just two laugh out loud, funny like wing foot clips. So I was glad to see those get some shine. It'd be, it's funny to think, Trent, about the difference. It's like if we were in control in the production truck of the broadcast and what went out, right?

Because like those chips that go up and like take the hill and then trickle back down and go in the hole, like they got how many dozens of people chip from a similar area that just hit awful fucking chips that weren't even close. Right. Like there's a reason guys are posting 20 over par for the tournament. Like those, they're hitting shots that just didn't work out all over the place. And we would just be showing those the whole time. be like, ha, ha, there's another one, like, over the green because, I mean, like, Justin Thomas, these guys, JT, what did JT finish? Like, he finished, he finished six over for the tournament,

and that was inside the top 10. So, like, clearly guys were posting bad scores, and I wanted to see more of those. Yeah, there had to be guys just trying to get out of the rough who couldn't. There had to be more crazy puts, more crazy chips. Yeah, I would love an alternate channel where I could just watch all the carnage, because that's what people love. people want to see? I went down to the to the yard and one of the days and there there was guys hacking it out. I think like Patrick Reed at one point put it into the high stuff and all the guys, they have such a good setup down there in the maintenance yard of just a huge Jumbotron screen and they all have all their chairs out. Steve is smoking a cigar with his feet up on a really

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I heard it a thousand times. But really cool to see that. Like you never ever think of like the guys behind the course, like, cheering and, like, being like, that's fucking right. Like, Wes, actually, one of the guys in our video, he's the U.S. Open superintendent, just sent me in Riggs a video of them, like, getting showered in champagne and a gatorade bath because, like, the week is over, and it was a successful U.S. Open. Everyone basically over parks out for Bryson D. Chambot and guys even, like, it was a pretty fucking good showing, I think. Very.

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Well, we can keep talking about the punt. me met, but we, Bryson D. Chambot just did a interview with us. We haven't talked about that yet. I mean, we'll talk about it when he comes on the show in a little bit. But, like, someone just, like, Dave put it up in his account and it's going crazy viral. And someone on the bottom, one of the top comments is Michael Scott's face where he's like, this is the worst, just because Bryson's now becoming so likable that this

guy just, like, can't fucking stand it. Like, this is the worst. Why is this happening? I will say, people are very confused about how to feel about Bryson. People, like, we've got our thing in line. We know how we feel about him, basically whether or not he gives us access and if he's nice to us and he slaps us on the ass while he's carrying the U.S. Open Trophy. But everybody else, they got to get their feelings straightened out about him because they just don't know. It's amazing.

They're a tough spot. They're a really tough spot. Okay. We talk a lot about Bryson. We talk a lot about D.S. Open. We're going to break it down more on Thursday's show. But without further ado, I think at this point, We should throw it to the 2020, the 120th, the U.S. Open Champion at Wingfoot, Bryson DeShamba.

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The question is from, let me pull up the name, the question is from David. David says you get to play Augusta National with no greens fee, but you can only use special Augusta National Golf Balls bought in the pro shop and they're $200 a piece. How many do you buy to make sure that you have enough to play the round but without spending all of your money because you're not allowed to use any once you're out? $200 a ball? I mean, you just buy 10 balls.

Is that enough? Yeah, it's got to be enough. There's only water in so many areas. Like I also can swim. So if I lose more than that, I'm going in the water after it. Oh, you're swimming in the water in Augustin National. I'll get right and raised. I thought you were going to say, I thought you were going to say I can swing,

which is going to be my point. Like we always get into these debates about these things. We're not like immobile human beings. We should be able to play the game of golf within 10 golf balls, especially at a place that's like landlocked, right? Like for me, if I'm playing at Pebble Beach, there's no limit to how many balls I need. I could legitimately lose 12 balls at Pebble Beach in a span of three holes.

I could just knock it over the water. There could be spots in which I can't hit the ball straight. But if I do that at Augusta National, it hits a tree, it falls down on the pine struts, the most manicured place in the world. You probably can't lose a ball if you tried at Augusta National. I could probably get through Augusta with three balls. I'd argue that it's harder to lose a ball at Augusta than any place in the world. No, no, that's just wrong.

Why? Why? It's perfectly manicured. Everything, under every tree, there's not a speck of pine straw out of place. That ball perfectly sits up no matter where the hell you hit that ball. The rough's not that crazy. It's going to be members play. It's not going to be Masters rough. You're right. You're right, but I put at least three in the water on 12, I think. Okay, sure. I mean, Jordan Speed did it.

Jordan's beat did it trying to win the mask. I juice one deep. I would just juice one fucking deep. 11, 12, and 13, you lose at least three golf balls. What? I'm definitely also losing 2 on 11 for sure. Yeah, 11's tough. You know, I think you're right, Larch. But see, to me, 10's almost too many,

because then it's like you spend it too grand for no reason. But then, so you're not paying Greenspies, and now I have seven leftover Augusta National, like, specialized balls? I'm not in the worst place ever. I'm okay with that side of the coin. The worst place to be is to get one sleeve, spend $600, and now you're a mess because you can't even finish. One sleeve's crazy.

I think the number for me is somewhere around six. Like, if I tee off and play a normal round of golf and I've got six golf balls in my bag, I should be totally fine no matter where I'm playing. But like you say, maybe you get a little bad balance on like the fifth pole or top over the green, you know, and like there are bushes back there, you lose it. And then you get to like 11, you dunk one,

you a blade one, like, or you chunk one on 12. You lost like three. And now you're just like, oh, no, I'm not going to be able to finish the route. I don't know. The other thing, if you get to like 15, 16, you get like a ball or two left. Like 15 is pretty much like that green as far as I'm concerned. It looks like a hump where if you don't land it perfectly,

it rolls back at your feet, goes back in the water. If you go too long, you might put it on a 16 pond. So, like, I'm... Built like a hot dog bun. It's a green one of the hot dog phone. It is built like a hot dog bun. So, yeah, and I'd also want to, like, if I'm playing that, I would love to drop a ball from, like, where they drive it,

hit a three wood in there just for fun, just to, like, see that. So I think 10 balls is the number for me, and I'd have a ball. Yeah, I don't hate 10. I think 10's a safe number. I might go, like, 8. I don't think that I'm going to lose eight golf balls and I don't want to spend. But then, I mean, if you're standing there on 15, like you said, Lurge, and I'm on my eighth golf ball trying to go for the green,

and I'm like, really rigged you couldn't spend $400 to make sure that we can just play these. Like, really, dude, how many times have we talked about August on the podcast, bro, and you're just, you're so chipping it around the 15th green so that we don't lose our last ball. I don't know, it'd be tough, but I think eight would be my number. I wonder what the general number across all average golfers is on what they would spend to play Augusta. I feel like $2,000 is like maybe the number, maybe even pushing it for like your average guy that like, I mean, people say like they'll go to pebble and they'll be like,

I just like can't pull the trigger on a $400,500 all around. I just can't do it. No matter how picturesque it is, no matter how beautiful it is, like I just can't do it. You're talking two grand. For most people in the United States, they just don't have $2,000 of disposable income to go play a fantasy land, two hour, three hour round of golf.

I think that's what it comes down to. Most people just don't have it. Like most people would be like, yeah, no, I would pay $2,000, but I just don't have $2,000. If I just spent $2,000 in a round of golf, I'd come back on my hands and knees back to my, like I wouldn't know what to do.

Like, I'd be like, I shot $120 and now I'm broke, and I don't know what to do, and then they put me in, like, a home or something. Like my life would be so much worse after playing that round of golf. It would be astronomical. Right. It is like, on the face of it, you're like, all right, I'm going to spend $2,000 and I'm going to go play at Gus and Ashley.

That's what I'm going to do. And then what's it's on the flight back or if you're panhandling back to your house, like you're like, that just wasn't worth it. You're walking down the New York State Street, like, how did these people end up here? Like, how does some of these people end up here? And you're like, there's got to be stories. They're like, oh, that guy played Augusta last week. and he's done now.

Like he had the time of his life, but now he's here, panhandling outside of a Tripoli. Yeah, I would say, I think two grand is actually like the perfect number. I think that you would get, it's kind of like the median point where you would get a lot of people on both sides of it. That'd be like, yeah, I would do two grand easily. But if you would do two grand, you would probably do like five grand, right? Because at some point that's just, you know, you're just kind of whatever.

So I don't know. I think that I would. So would you find how much pressure would you put on yourself if you start, if you pay five grand to go play Augusta? Like, is any of it about the score or are you just tossing the scorecard out at that point and you're just having yourself a day? Like, I feel like you put that much pressure yourself to have a good day.

You're going to have the worst day ever. I'll say this. I think Augusta is just like, if that old, like, phrase when you're first starting golf, like the good shot that keeps you coming back. Like, I think Augusta, you just don't even. care but like you know you want to hit a couple balls in on 12 like you want to enjoy the experience and just walk around and yeah I wouldn't be so concerned with the score I think it's more as long as I hit three good shots that day I'd be like that was do you play that round legit like like like

ball in the hole the whole way or are you like dropping balls around hitting certain shots like trying to shape a little blend I think a little blend like I would have one ball that like it's for sure my score and then certainly I would drop a ball on 12 or if I hit one like I guess in the water I would just chip again but like on on 13 I'd be dropping it to where they hit and see if I can get home and two and then doing the same on 15 and a couple other holes I mean 16 you'd be trying to hit tiger's chip shot right like everybody right for sure and I would I would lose six balls there just trying to hit that shot waded over the green into the water on the other side this is why they will never allow people like that's on that on that golf course we're just

yeah we'll drop balls all over the place we'll do whatever we want and they're like yeah yeah you're never getting in this place pal we're just like taking you better do it as a fuck you want we're like taking divvits all over the divvits all over the front of the green they're just like what are you doing like you're not even supposed to be here you can just keep chipping all over this place uh but yeah i mean i would i don't know i always i always get a little bit i think It's a little bit weird and people are like, hey, I'm not even really keeping score. It's like, well, if you're not even keeping score,

you don't really care that much about the score. Everybody cares to a degree about the score that you're posting. Otherwise, like, why don't you just go to the master's during practice and just walk around? Like, what's the difference? Like, if you don't care about, you know, like, clearly you care about hitting the shots and, like, seeing how you do on the golf.

You got to keep your score. You know who I have to call out right now, and it's fine because they're postseason now, but our guy, Devontase, all right? this guy will go out there just to have a walk sometimes we'll go play cherry valley and he's just out there with the boys and me and like brock and other guys we can't believe that this guy's out there he doesn't want to get competitive he's like i'm just out here to fucking play around like what do you we're in a match we're gonna have a match today you're a professional athlete we're gonna play

around and at the end there's going to be a we're going to grind over puss we're going to hit putts like if you fucking shoot a hundred and two today it does not matter your partner's gonna pick you up. He's like, yeah, like, you guys go ahead. I'm just out here to get some sun. It drives me nuts. I, this is why I know me and Devon Taves would get along great. No, you guys are out there for a stroll. There's no strolls in golf. You, come on. You, I mean, you can't, you're, you're too close to you sound like such a hard o right now. You're being like, you've got to compete and you got to be the best and you got to win. Dude, just take a chill pill and relax. Like, what are you talking about?

That for a second thing. But listen, I understand. I understand how that comes off, but like when you're, when you're trying to have a match and someone like is like, like, so leisurely being like, you know what? Like, I'm not keeping score today. That is an infuriating, like, moment when you have three other guys being like, no, no, no, we're like doing this. We're texting the night before ready to rock. I know Riggs is on my side.

I know. Oh, buddy. It could be more on you. It's impossible to be. Where's Lurch? Hold on. I'll say this. Lurch and I have a buddy who comes to my mind.

an awesome guy, incredibly friendly guy. His name's Chuck, and he doesn't have a competitive bone in his body. And it's like you try to get, you try to squeeze it out of him, you try to chirp him, you try to like kiss him off so that he'll want to play. And he's just like, great shot, Rigsie, that was awesome. And you're like, no, you're on the other team, dude. Like, fuck you. I want you to, I want you to not want to lose. And then I want to make you lose so that you're upset. And it's infuriate. Me? Yes. Oh, God. So there, we do that guy certainly exists and he's out there and it's amazing that he does but to frankie's point now if you guys are all texting the night before about a match and then you show up and then

he's just not even part of it and just out there for a leisurely walk well then that will make me snap as his teammate because it's like he doesn't really good at it he's never really disrespected that like he doesn't say again he's never really disrespected us in that fashion he when he knows there is a match he will like play the match he's beaten me many times. But it's like, it's the fact of like every time we step up there, we're like, what's the, like, what are we doing today? And sometimes he's just like, you know, you guys are too competitive for me. I'm just out here to have a good time. Like, okay, ladies, like, all right, Taser, go fucking get a tan. Like, go get a tan somewhere.

But yeah, what you're about to say, Lurch is like, yeah, if he did that so disrespectfully on the first day, like, we fucking were talking about it. Yeah, that's where I'd lose my mind. Because it's like, no, no, no, we discussed that you were going to care over this four foot put, but now if you're just going to be my teammate, not care. I'm going to lose my mind out here. But if he's just like a competitive walk guy and you know that and he's just out there to just enjoy the day, then so be it. Then he just can't be part of the match.

And then you make like a three-man match and you just have your other buffoon over there who just doesn't care and who's just kind of wandering with the breeze. He's going to hate that, brother. So he's going to say that everything is completely false at what I just said. me, DeVontes, and Chuck are looking for a fourth. If anybody wants to play with us, you let me know, and we'll go on and we'll have a fucking great day. I will say this about Trent.

Trent's a little bit of an enigma because, like, you're such a delight to play with that it almost, it doesn't matter. Like, you're just so happy and positive all the time. And just, you are kind of like, you're just, you're happy to be there all the time, no matter what. And it's almost like,

We're over here slapping it around. We're cursing each other. We're cursing ourselves. We're about to, like, check ourselves into an insane asylum with what's going on with our golf games. And you're just happy as a clam no matter what's going on. So that is a little bit of an enigma. Well, honestly, that's how I grew up playing.

Like, when me and my buddies would go out when I was growing up, we would just play, like, our own ball. And if you shot a good score, you shot a good score. If you played, like, shit, it didn't matter. Not until I got into, like, your guys's circles with the mat. Did I get into the matches? Like, that was, like, a whole. different world. Like legit. Like when we would play growing up, we wouldn't do any of that.

We would just hit the ball around and you shoot 1.30. Like, who fucking cares? Like, it wasn't until I met you guys that matches became like a big competitive animals. Yeah. It's different. It's much different. So, like, if I can, if I get a group of guys like Devon Taves and Chuck who want to play a normal round, then I'm down with them. But it's just a whole different world playing matches. It is. It is very different. I live for a match, man. Like, I live. I live. for getting that hype up and creating a fake world where to the four of us for that four hours it feels like that match is the only thing in the world like your boy having a four foot put and making it when you're out of the hole and being like that's my lifeline that's what i needed

let's go like i just live for that and then afterwards it is the dumbest thing in the world it means literally nothing but for those four hours and for the night leading up to it when you're texting like frankie said that's like the only thing in my world but that i think there's a direct correlation to like the type of person it is right because like clearly tase is like a competitive duty he's a fucking h-o player but at the end of the day he like Trent and tays are two of the nicest people I know they have a very similar like look at on life where everything's like hey like hey buddy like just a good day to go out there and enjoy a good day like we have our fucking pals out here we're having some we're having some new newners and we're just walking and we're just in good company like you are

good company people so I guess that that's a direct I mean I'm like the worst person in the world I'm fucking high-tempered. I'm an asshole. I'm all over the place. So, like, I can't be like that. I need something. I need to be able to dig into you. I need to make you cry.

I need to make you squeal. I need all that stuff. So it is a direct correlation to, like, what kind of golf do you like to play? Yeah, I agree with that. Okay, next one. I'm going to introduce this one, and then you guys can discuss it,

and I'm actually going to leave. So I'm about to get on the airplane. What about that hat you were wearing today? What about that hat with that face on it? What did you think about that? I mean, I thought it was a horrific look, but I will say I don't think that that thing was that accurate. That's what I'm going to say. My question was like, are you upset that at any point someone could say that that was you,

regardless of what it looked like. Like at some point someone thought that was you. It's the worst depiction of someone ever. The fact that people are like, no, no, this is like, I got you on a hat. That had to make you angry, that that someone legitimately. handed that to you and like this is you. I will say it. The guy, the guy handed it. He's like, it didn't come out at all

like we kind of grew it. And I was like, thank you, man. I mean, it kind of looks like the face got run over by a lawnmower, but here you go. I saw. Sorry, so what's that from the gallery? Dude, I saw one of the best replies.

Oh, yes. the which one? The Ronaldo to two statues Oh yeah I remember a couple years ago You remember a couple years ago Yeah yeah

Yeah Yeah when they bloop Sorry When some When the magazine drew Dave Dave Portnoy They was like Oh yes

It reminded me of that That's what I'm trying to be most of it The one of Dave is so funny It's so bad Uh Ian says If you could take the best

skill, like individual skill, so driving, iron, wedges, short game, putting, you could just take one from the best player in the world at that skill, which one would you take? So essentially, would you take the best driving of the best driver in the world, the best putting of the best putter in the world, which one skill set would you take? I'm going to say driving, and then I'm going to go, and the reason I'm going to say driving is because I heard Brandl-Shambly one time say that drive for show, put for dough is just completely false, and that actually statistically driving is way more important in golf than anything else,

which I don't know if I don't know the staff to back that up, but I trust Brandel, so I'm going to leave you guys with that. Wow, what a fucking, what a, what a, what a, uh, you can't leave take bomb there. Can't figure out how to leave. That's a tough, is the tough. He's still in here. No, I didn't, I'm not trying to leave. I just, I kind of set the stage there.

I wanted to hear what you guys said. Well, I mean, I, I was going to say, the drive for show Put for Dole line, I feel like, that was going to end up coming up one of my rants. I was going to say it needs to be short game because, like, in my game, perfectly represents how much of a difference to having a terrible

short game makes. Like, for me, like, I can smack the ball out to a decent yardage. I can get it somewhat straight, like, when I'm hitting it okay, and, like, my long irons are fine. I can get it down the course. But, like, I'm an absolute fucking nightmare around the greens, and I can't break

90 when I'm not on like that. So if I can have the best wedge game in the world, I would be a problem out there on the golf course. I really would be. Give me the best wedge game. Give me the best 100 and in wedge and I'm never losing a match, ever. That would be incredible. I guess another question like on that is what do you think that would do to your handicap? You have everything else that is your game.

You're a what? You're a 12 right now, Frankie? Or an 8. Like a 9.8.9.4 or something like that. Okay. Instantly, you got the best. wedge game in the world, but your other game is still intact? What is your handy cat? I think it's like a three or something crazy. I think it's significantly lower.

Dude, imagine the best wedge game in the world. You see what these guys do with a fucking wedge in their hand? You take away two or three strokes a hole compared to what I'm doing. I mean, you're 80 yards out and they're hitting it to a foot. You don't need to be the greatest part of the world if you're hitting it to within a five foot radius every time. You really don't. I mean, I would take putting and I would take it in a, like just a landslide. And I think that I would be, my handicap, I'd be a scratcher better. Right. I think my handicap now is down to, I'm down to a four three right now.

I'm hitting the ball so well. And I, I can't put to say. You're down to a what? You're down to a what? A four three or a four five, four five is what it is. Holy shit, Lurt. But Lurts, like, putting is something you can actually practice easier than chipping. It's not a swing.

People have told me this, dude. It's not a swing. I'm working at the putting. I'm doing a forward lean, which I've heard is a benefit to putting. The whole thing. And all I do is I continually just pull the thing left or I leave it out right and I never make punts. So I'm taking putting. It's a runaway fashion.

Brandl, I agree with the lot of points. This is just where he's wrong. Putting's the most important thing. You're only, just quick. Your only issue with putting is just that you fundamentally don't understand the concept of how the ball is. That's interesting. This is Richard's favorite criticism. That's interesting because that's right.

I got to go, boys. Gotta go. That's interesting that he says that, though, because that's what I was going to say for me, but it was going to be irons. Because I fundamentally don't understand how you're supposed to hit good iron shots. The rest of them, I'm really, really, really bad at. But I know that if you practice it in. enough and if you do it enough, you are going to excel at it. Irons, even with the Kevin Kisnerch that I've talked endlessly about on this podcast, I still, when I pull an iron or when I think about my

iron play, I don't totally know what I'm doing. Like it's to be able to get the ball off the ground to like make a divot like Lurch does, that is not within my brain capacity to understand how it's possible. So if you could just insert the best iron play in the world into my body, into my brain, I would be the happiest man in the world because like Lurch's putting, I don't understand how to hit a good iron shot. It defies physics. It defies reality when I think about hitting a good iron shot.

And I really think that's like the selection point is where you get your most frustration from in your current golf game, you just select. Definitely. You don't of us really care if our handicaps going to drop that much. It's just I get so mad when I have an opportunity to make a put and I just don't even come close to making it. I think for Frankie's,

Like, Frankie, I think sometimes you hit the ball so damn well. And you get in these positions where you're like, oh, no, I'm 70 yards out. Like, this is the easiest part of my life. Now, like, it could be a good birdie out. And then you blade it over the green and you turn a four or a five on a par five to like a nine. And like, I think, Trent, I think the same way. It just becomes like, where are you most frustrated in your golf game? And just fix that, solve it.

And I'll never worry about it. You know what it is? And you're right. It's that when, especially when a shot before it worked, right? Like, if I had a great drive in the middle of the fairway and it's down further than I'm usually at, I see that shot and I'm like, great, I just set myself up to ship my pants with an iron shot. Like, that is so frustrating.

Or for like you, if you hit a great shot onto the green within like a makeable distance, but you're like, well, I can't really putt so that shot almost doesn't count or matter. That's the most frustrating part. Yeah, and I think for me, I can place it to this one hole that I always put. and it's Cherry Valley first hole. It's like a 320 yard par four right in the middle, right ahead of you. There's no damage. It's just a bunker on the right, bunker on the left, and that's it.

Every single time I hit a decent shot to the point where I'm half a wedge of my hand. I either hit a drive. I try and hit the green or it's like $2.90 actually. So I try and hit the green or I'll take like a seven iron or a six iron and I'll end up just having a nice fucking hundred yard shot in. It's an easy hole. I've never made a par there. ever and I rarely ever miss the first shot. It's always just like I'm in the position.

I have a 56 degree of my hand and I always bladed over onto the road. Then I'm hitting fucking four. Or I'll chunk it and then I run it back up. I'm off the green. Now I'm hitting four once I get on. I two pot and I make a six. That hole is a perfect example of how my game can go from, oh my God, like he's actually like pretty decent.

Like he's going to play pretty well there. He has a fucking unreal draw off the tee. Like, look at this. I'm walking up with a seven. and within like a 30-yard distance of the game. It's crazy. Right. It's killer.

And then you look at these stats, obviously, of like, what of the pro did that week? It's like putting, sometimes they make like 96% of all putts within seven feet. And it's like, I can't make 32% of those pots inside seven feet. I mean, I'm like, I'm definitely less than one third of a putt from seven feet. Like wedge distance, I'm sure. It's probably all within six feet. from 100 yards. Right.

It's really a testament to the rest of your game, you're a 4-5 with your putt in. That's an extremely low handicap. Dude, it's crazy. I also feel like I'll lose every match at this level because you go through these levels of like, well, I didn't grow up golfing. I don't really have a trustworthy swing.

So if it's not good that day, like I'm still going to be like a mid-80. Hold on really quick. I'm sorry. So before my phone dies, I want to look. I was looking at the guy who finished last in the U.S. Open. Without withdrawing, he just had the highest score of the two days.

Edward Roussad is a Spanish amateur. He was plus 21 through two rounds. I was looking at his stats and comparable and he hit 29% of fairways and the field was 39%. He hit 42% of Greens of Regulation and the field was 51%. But then his driving distance was higher

than the rest of the field. He was 311. And then his putts, number of putts he was 1.86 compared to a average of 1.71. And I don't know what any of that data means compared to like where did he go wrong. Right? So like he hit 29% of fairways. But nobody was hitting fairways. Yeah, but like 40% of them did.

That's the average. He hit 29. So like is that go to Riggs's point? The fact that like he was 1.86 putting and they were all 1.71. Is that that much of a difference? Like I feel like 1.86 to 1.71 is closer in my head. even though I know it's not because they're only putting one or two times. So, like, getting closer to two is insane.

But to be, like, 20 points off almost on drives to me is bad. Like, bad, bad. Oh, I'm sorry, but like 11 points off. Yeah, I would say it's 11 points off. But, like, quickly, like, a 0.2 difference of 72 holes is, like, 15 strokes over the course of a weekend. So that's like a 15-stroke. Yeah, true. That's massive, which is crazy because that seems like nothing.

And the thing that I always go back to of like the pros, like, we'll play a match. And even if we're the same handicap, it'll be probably a 10 to 12-stroke difference. Like on just one day of golf. Now, if we did that for four days, you're saying I'm going to beat you by 40 strokes. Like, these guys lose by three and we're like, dude, you killed him. You killed him over the course of the week. It's like, you beat him by a. less than a stroke a day.

Dude, that's how I feel, not to completely switch gears, but that's how I feel we play these Barstall Golf Society events. You just had your major with a Blade Cup over the weekend. They just, I just, I shot like a one under,

and I was like, that's great for my first round. And those guys are shooting like eight under, and then you multiply that by four, and I'm just, I'm dead meat in that tournament. Dude, I went low, went low to start. I was five under. I was five under in the first round,

and the fucking leader was a 10th, I'm like, holy shit, I went in striking distance. Yes. The next round, I finished the second round, plus eight for the tournament. Plus eight. I went from 500 to plus eight. And then I ended up plus 10. I'm actually looking right now who is the leader, because I think it ends tonight at

8 o'clock. Oh, I finished plus 13 on T-550th. The leader is Titan Lacks on Xbox with a 43 underpar score after 4. rounds at Nice Creek. That is fucking insane. Yeah, I was I was one under after my first round and then I still need to play my final two rounds, but I went from one under to 10 over in my second round. It was criminal. The wind was criminal. So I went from a 67 to an 85. The next round. Talk about a fucking a roller coaster. I mean, you're talking to yourself because you set the course conditions. The wind was too much. The wind was too much.

it's hard it's a hard yeah when you lose your tempo on that game it's so lost yeah it's like like you just don't even know where it went yeah i talk about that all the time but it's the truth if you if you if you if your finger's not moving at the exact precise way that it needs to you're way left or or first you're way right because you're slow if you're righty and then you're just trying to speed it up then you're way left and you're just like i'm i'm like i'm in a fit right now and i'm trying to figure that and then sometimes you just get lucky like when you hold your golf club and it's like your grip is good that day. Sometimes your thumb just rest well on the little like, you know, toggle.

Yeah. But sometimes it doesn't. It's a little bit off and you're pulling it like inside and you're trying to flatten it out. And then the game just makes me go gone. Speaking of the thumb on the club, I noticed when I was like walking at wing foot, the difference in the way. So I can't remember what group it was. I guess it was Tiger, J.T.

And Morikawa. It was Thursday. And I couldn't believe the difference between where all three of them put their thumb on the club when they're holding it, when they're gripping it. It's completely different. Like Tiger seemed like he was like right down the middle of the grip with a little bit of a bend. JT was like over the grip, like where his thumb was on the side of it. Morikau was like on the other side. It was like three totally different thumb positions on the grip.

And I know I guess it's like you can equate that to like a batting stand. It's just how you feel comfortable. But I always thought that the golf grip had to be very, very similar. Like I thought every pro would have the same hands on the club. So I know nothing about the golf swing at all. But like what I've done is because I used to rotate my like have my thumb over the top. But then my miss was always I was like right hand dominant. I was pulling the ball.

And I felt like that's because my hand was too much over the top. So just like naturally impact, I like closed it and pulled it and drew it a little. little too much. So now I like put my hand way underneath the club like this. So it can't like I can't really like hook the ball at all. So I I'm now more. So I don't know if it has to do with like at set up. Now did you see this consistently from those players? Because no, I thought on the second hole. Just trying to hit a cut shot versus a draw shot. And I honestly don't even know if that's where you start. Right. I saw it on the second hole. I was right next to the T and they were just their grips were just staring at me. And I was, I was like, oh, let me just, like, watch this whole setup.

Like, what do they do? Like, how hard are they gripping it? And you also notice that they all give it, like, a squeeze, and then they just go, like, numb, basically. Like, they're barely holding onto the club. I don't know how you do that. That's something that, like, golf savants tell you, like, no, don't squeeze the club. It's like, well, then how do you hold it through impact? Right. I can't tell you how hard it. I can't tell you how hard to squeeze the club. I can't say it. When I have to hit one really far, like, if I have to nut a four-up, iron, I'm squeezing that thing so hard that I have no circulation going on my fingertips. If I have a loosey-goosey grip, I'm letting go to the club or it's going sideways.

I figured out like grip stuff not too long ago when that guy was like, no, you just have to have a stronger left hand. And so I just gripped it a little tighter. I don't know if you guys remember talking about that in Florida. But like, yeah, so I just gripped it a little tighter thinking that was like the solve of my problems. And no, no, no, strong grip is much different than just grabbing the damn thing like you're choking it.

Fuck. It's impossible. What an impossible sport. Like, grips are probably the least of my problems. Like I, or maybe it's the most

of my problems. I don't know. It's the best and the worst sport all at once. It really is. Right. It's just so inferior. When I was just like,

I had one thought, was like, no, I just have to keep a straight left arm and then just hit it. And like, it's just now I know more and I hate it.

It like becomes, because when your swing goes wrong, you know, more about like what goes into the swing and then you think oh my god it could be any one of those thousand items that making my golf game horrible right now and maybe shut down yeah they do say like the more thinking of the worst but all i do is what i'm trying to fix everything i'm trying to think about what's wrong how to fix it that's it's it's a it's a fucking it's a real bitch it's a real bitch sure is all right boys well i guess that's the podcast yeah thanks uh bryson for

popping on, right, Frankie? Your guy. Fuck, man. I mean, it sucks because you know he's probably doing it. I think he was going to fucking Denver to do altitude training. He says he was going out there to, like, work at and work on some stuff, and then like, raises altitude training. He's like, some people can call it that.

Is there a mood? Are you still as high as a kite on Bryson right now or now? I mean, I've, like, I've been, like, texting people about it, so I feel like it's still, like, a moment that we had. Like, whenever there's like these big things that we do at work, I feel like people are buzzing about it. So everyone's like, Bryson yesterday with the pizza review. So I'm like still kind of like that, that wave is

ending right now, I feel like, but it actually makes, it might, you're the one in the position, so you would know Beth, makes that that the cancellation hurt even harder because I thought, you know, we had the moment. But it sounds like he's just not doing media today. Yeah, I guess he's just not doing media today. And then also, the thing that I like about Bryson now is that he's catching the eye of people that he normally wouldn't catch. Like Dave Portnoy called me today at like 2 o'clock. And I was like, oh fuck yeah like what's going on and i answered the phone he goes you're on the rundown live and i was like oh fuck like what did i do yep and he was like bryson de chambot and i hear i hear big cat

giggling in the background yep he's like what is like what is it with this guy like talk to me like i'm watching this video of him during quarantine and he's looking out of a bunch of big windows he's washing his bentley he's walking and go make himself pancakes like is this is this real life like Is he actually a real person right now? And I said, yeah, like, he asked if he was self-aware. And I said, I don't think he's self-aware in the slightest. I think that he put that video out. And for anyone that doesn't know what I'm talking about,

Bryson Des Chabot during the quarantine, put out a video in which it was, there was no speaking. It was all just weirdly edited, highly produced, highly edited. Yeah. Documentary with no voice, no narration of just his, day. Like he's walking from his room to the kitchen with no shirt on. He's thinking. He's pondering. He's cleaning his room. He's cleaning his house. He's cleaning his car. And you think like, all right, this is a fucking joke. But when it came out was like the height of this global pandemic.

We were all like, we were all scared and every. I mean, I'm sure people still are, but like, we were all just like in this world where like we didn't see any celebrities. Everyone was in their houses and he put out this video to like reassure the world like this is what he's doing to pass the time and it was like such a like look at me video and I know for a fact it was not done ironically because the time it was released it was done completely seriously with like a lot of emotion attached to it so Dave like loves him now the fact that he put that video out and like doesn't understand reality like I think that that is really really awesome that we have a guy like that. And that's really the way you have to look at it. If you're trying to be pro

Bryson and you're like, I like this guy, you do have to give the pitch basically what Frankie just did where he's not self-aware, but the things he does while not being self-aware are amazing. Like that video, a self-aware person doesn't put that out, but a person who is kind of so up their own ass that would put, that have the balls to put out that video is a very interesting person. And that is the way you, that's the lens at which you have to view Bryce and Deschambeau through. Otherwise, you're, you're not going to get past his antics and you're going to be to just be like, fuck this guy. But if you can view it through that specific lens, he is a fascinating person. When Dylan, is his last name, Deather, or deathier, deither,

from golf.com, I fucking love that kid. I think he's great. I go read his work. I think he does a great job. I love going to these terms with him. Really good kid. But he was in like Bryson's, like, crew this week. It was like wild. Like, Bryson was hugging all, like, right after Bryson had that, like, touching moment with his parents on that, like, Cisco via thing. Yeah. Like, I looked inside. I was like, oh, shit, like, Dylan's in there. And I was like, how the hell is he in there?

But he had a video the night before with Bryson. I don't know if you guys saw that where he was walking to the driving range and he's asking, like, all right, like, you're about to go into the final pairing tomorrow, like, what are you eating tonight? Like, all this stuff. Bryson's like steak, Fortnite, the whole fucking Bryson thing. And then Dylan was like, are you going to be nervous stepping up to the first tee?

And instead of just saying like, yeah, I always have first tea jitters, he said like, you know, I'm always a little bit nervous. But, and then he said a line where he's like, it's really hard to explain to you. And that's what always gets under my skin with him. That's why it's just roller coaster because it's like, well, like, I want to think that I can understand the way you're speaking. Like I'm, I'm not like that dumb and you're not that much smarter than like, like, why don't you just fucking slap me in the face next time.

Why don't you put me in a corner and a dunce hat on and call me names? Like the fact that you're like, I don't know how to explain this to you. Like, dude, he asked you if you're nervous. And then he went on to say, it's all about how if I can perceive my own reality. If I can perceive reality in real time. Like if I, and then he like kind of like understood that what he said was fucking ridiculous. He goes, it's really hard to explain to you. Like, Bryson, like, are you nervous?

or not. Yeah, well, yeah. And in that specific instance with that specific question, he's, he's, you're asking him to explain emotions. We all have emotions. It's, it has nothing to do with him explaining a scientific formula to us that we wouldn't understand. It's, Bryson, you are put in an ex position. You should feel X. Do you feel X? And he's like, well, you wouldn't get it. But it's like, well, I have emotions. I know, I know what those things feel like. So you should be able to explain that to me. He literally said you wouldn't understand what I'm talking about because I guess he means like I have this perception of what I'm supposed to do and to be able to perceive that and actually have it happen in reality is something he gets nervous about I guess

like so really if you put that if you explain to me like I'm five it's like I have these aspirations and like I'm nervous that I have to execute them like and that's even with using like big words right so you can you can still sound smart but like you don't have to say like are you going to be able to perceive reality tomorrow. That sounds like you need to be put into a hospital, like when you say that. And then he also said, like, what else did he say? He's like, oh, like, he's like, are you going to be nervous? He's like, well, like breathing.

Like, how will the air affect me? Like, all this stuff, like, I talk to a couple guys like are pro athletes, like guys that fucking made these conference finals and stuff. I'm like, what do you think about these comments? And he's, and they're like, well, like, that concept of like being conscious of your breathing is a very professional athlete, like way of thinking about your body and your performance. So like I actually understand that. But I guess like the perception of reality, the way he comes off about it is really fucking weird. Like like I what he's saying is

right is my point. Like he actually is saying things that guys who care about their bodies and like their performance and everything that goes into being a fucking athlete and performing at the highest level. He's saying things that everyone now does. And I think that that's the way the world is going. Like the whoop band. We're fucking tracking every every beat of our heart now. Magic being a professional athlete, like wanting to know, like, how much you're breathing out, how much you're breathing in, when you're recovering on the bench, when you're recovering in between swings. I get that.

But don't talk to us. Like, you're the first person to crack the coat. Like, he's in The Boys on Amazon. Like, he's born with this fucking compound V shit. I'm actually, I'm deep into the boys right now. That's a great show. I just started it. I'm like six episodes in on season one.

What a fucking show. I still, they believe the first 10 minutes had me hooked. I mean, I couldn't believe what happened. They've been putting out. I don't know that show. I've never even heard of it. Oh, you should watch it. Lurch.

It's superheroes in a real world that like use their path. Like they're just like, they're basically the celebrities of Earth. And like they fucking go to red carpets. They get an endorsement deal. They're like the pro athletes. But they're superheroes. They can fly. They can fucking do this.

What's the name of the show? The boys. And they're also just like Amazon Prime. The boys. They're also just like bad people and shit. Like they like. Yeah. And it shows like real shit.

Like, oh, like, you can fucking be invisible. Like, the guy goes into, like, the girl's bathroom and, like, starts, like, jerking off. You know what I mean? Like, it's, like, it's, like, real stuff. Like, real stuff. It's dark. It's kind of dark. Really dark.

And they show people dying, like, fucking getting ripped up. Rip the pet. There's blood. It's crazy. My first TV show that I need to watch, I think, is the wire. But maybe this will skip it. No, I would. So I'm the biggest wire fan of the world.

I think it's the best show ever. You ever see The Wire, bro? yeah yeah yeah I like to tell people from Baltimore like I've seen one I know what's going but like if you know how it goes but the boys is is it's there's only now I think there's season two they put out four or five episodes so you're thinking 12 hours total to catch up completely and people are talking about it people are excited about it so you should I would recommend starting the boys because it's it's it's very good I told my sister I was in the move the car 45 minutes ago I said just give me another 10 minutes that was 45

five minutes ago and my phone died i got to get out this podcast i got stuff to do pizza review comes out in 30 minutes i got to rock and roll this has been for play thank you all for joining uh quickly if you're looking to give a golf course review go to golf golf reviews via lurch dot com there you go get your plugs in love that all right uh hit it hard thanks fellas love you all maybe not lurch as much of the love trend all right hit it hard