Fore Play - Bubba Watson Opens Up

Episode Date: July 23, 2020

Bubba Watson, 2-time Masters winner and 12-time PGA TOUR winner, joins the show. It’s his first time with the entire crew. We talk about his mental struggles on the course, his insecurities both on and off the course, his confidence in his physical golf abilities, players who are bad and good to be paired with, prioritizing family and professional golf and much more. Bubba opens up and we’re here for it. In From The Gallery, if an Augusta member invited you to play but said you could only bring 4 clubs, which 4 are you bringing and why???You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Big one, we have the whole crew chatting for about 45 minutes with Bubba Watson, two-time Masters winner. Bubba Watson, 12-time PGA tour winner. He's been controversial at times. He's been loved. He's been hated. He's been chirped.

He's been praised. He's been through it all, and we have a phenomenal, phenomenal interview reminder that we are. We got to get a big thanks. We are produced by Jake Bass and Brendan Jones, Ebug, who, you know, he's worked very, very closely with Frankie on the travel show. All those episodes are now well over 100,000 views on YouTube. So big thanks to everyone for supporting us, for viewing all of our stuff. Bubble Watson, I had obviously sat down and done. kind of a one-off with Bubba and Ted Scott a year and a half ago. And, you know, I received a little bit of like,

oh, of course you go, you meet a guy. And now after chirping him forever, you're kind of kissing his feet. This conversation with Bubba Watson, which we're going to hit people with very early on in the show. I don't think it went the way everybody thought it was going to go, but I'll turn it over to you guys as the first time you've ever interacted directly with Bubba. What did you think? Well, I mean, in my early blogging days, I was definitely a very vocal critic of Bubba Watson. And part of that is because it was easy. He was an easy target for the most part because of some of his antics. And it just played really well.

So I was a harsh critic of Bubba years and years ago. But it is what always happens. And it's going to continue to happen probably if we run into people who we so-and-so don't like. Like as soon as you start talking to them as a person, it's much different. Like they tell you all about themselves, about their life, about the things they've gone through. Obviously, Bubba has issues with anxiety that he's talked a lot about. So we get pretty deep into that, once we start talking to him in the interview. So you would be a real asshole if you listen to all of that.

And then I continue to just be mean to him. Like that's what a crazy person would do. And like you said, Riggs, I'm sure we're going to get some talk about how, oh, of course, you meet him and you talk to him. Now you're going to be easier on him. yeah, I'm a human being. I don't know what to tell you. That's just the way that it goes. If you talk to me one-on-one or over Zoom, which is how we did it,

and you tell me about the struggles that you've been through, I'm an empathetic person. That's just kind of the way I am. I think a lot of us are. So it would be crazy to continue to be as harshly critical as I was in the past. And that's just what it is. I'm evolving as a person, if you could say that. Oh, imagine being like, oh, this makes you upset, Bubba.

Why don't you keep crying, you little baby, like right to his face? Like cry right now. I want to make you upset. I want to make you hate yourself. Like, come on. Like, we all do that on the internet from time to time. But that's just the way the internet works. And people do it to us.

We do it back. But when you speak to someone, same thing with Stoley's. Like, someone will tell me I'm a dainty little woman. And I walk around and they're like, look at you, you piece of shit. And then I meet them somewhere. And they're like, nice to meet you. Like, it's the same thing. You're always going to rip on people on the internet or when you're watching them on the golf course and stuff like that.

And then when they give you the time of day to actually come on our show and speak to us. I mean, he was moving us. Like, at one point, I said that he has to open up a church. I mean, Bubba Watson is a very open book, and he is willing to talk to you about his fears and his anxieties and all the things that keep him up at night. Like, that's crazy. We don't even know this guy. Like, to be able to just like, I mean, he talked to us like we were as therapist. It was insane. And I think that's the coolest thing of all time to be able to do that. To a couple guys on a fucking podcast. Yeah, it was great. I mean, I have a voice. the whole, a little bit of the blogging life that got maybe trend in some deep water

prior to the conversation. He did give a little knock of bloggers and stuff like that, but it was all in good-natured fun. And then, I mean, yeah, I think that is the way the internet works. But to the effect that, like, you know, he's not a psychopath. Like, only a psychopath you would speak to and be like, oh, no, like, he's still crazy. Like, whoever that guy was that we talked to that said, like, he ended up shooting 150 or whatever. Crazy person. around like he's just a crazy person and you'll never come to like like an evil playing ground of where they're coming from from like an opinion standpoint but when you talk to Bubba and he just

is transparent he's open and he just shares like how he comes to answers in his own brain like you can easily get on that path understand it and now you're like on his side because he's explained to the world what makes sense to him and why it makes sense to him and it does for people that have like a mind that care about things and it was it was great to speak to and great to hear because i think it is a very interesting and misunderstood guy from time to time and it's it's interesting because trend our first podcast we ever did which i don't even know if this went public maybe put it on like our sound cloud and tried to attach it to a viral tweet but i don't even think this was technically on the original four play feed but we went through a handful or 10 or 15 guys and we kind of just went back and forth

on our standing with that person, our opinions, our thoughts, whatever. And when we came across Bubba, I remember very clearly that Trent laid out on paper, like Bubba should be love. He's a lefty. He hits the ball a mile. He curves the ball left to right, right to left. He had like a pink driver. His name's Bubbo, which is a cool thing.

So when he first popped up, it was like he was universally loved. This guy's fucking great. And then he went through some stuff where it was people like RIP Ted Scott, where he would hit a certain shot and it felt like he was blaming Ted Scott and he'd be like, there's nowhere that's the number and then, you know, getting into it with fans. I think he did have a couple run-ins with maybe cameramen or some, some Bryson-esque type stuff, which we also allude to and get to in the interview. So it was a lot of up and down and us, we did.

Like I know I've tweeted like Bubba's a bitch. Whatever we've tweeted, right? Like that kind of stuff where it seemed like he was whiny, seemed like he could be unlikable. and when you're just consuming the coverage, you're consuming certain things like, right? Like we despise the way that he signed off some of his videos that he would put up on Instagram. It just annoyed us.

And then when you actually kind of get brought in to the church of Bubba and you sit down and you chat with him and he explains to you like, hey, no, I get that on the physical sense, I'm very good at golf and I've won the masters a couple of times. But there are things that Bubba Watson just isn't that good at. And one of them is just being able to, to brush off like criticism and negative stuff that people say about you and the way that they

break down you know and he even said like I you know I know I shouldn't think about this but when I miss a put I'll think like fuck they're all going to be talking about how much I suck in put and like that's such a human thing so without trying to give away the whole interview um it just it it was very eye-opening it was cool to hear him speak that openly and also like he is a pretty conversational and normal guy to talk with Yeah, like at one point he chirps Frankie for wearing the bucket hat and he's, yeah, he comes off as a much more normal guy. I'm sure people will call a couple people will call us hypocrites for how we treat him in the interview. But if you at least just listen to the interview, call us whatever you want.

But listen to the interview because it's very, very interesting and insightful. And I think you, the listener, will have a much different opinion of Bubba Watson coming out the other side. Well, yeah, I think it also speaks to like, you know, if like you tweet out like, Bubba, like, Bubba's bitch or whatever that or like you tweeted out in the past. Like, you can still tweet out like Bubba's being a bitch, you know, like, because he even self-reflected and like knows that he kind of gets out of character out of mind in those moments. And that's what he's trying to like fix and change.

So, I mean, not to say that we're really good buddies with Bubba, but to the same way that your brother or good friend tells you like exactly. We've had one 30-minute conversation. I guess we played around and gone with 45. Yeah, 45. Sorry. But you can still, you know, like tell your buddy like, hey, man, like, you know, there's a time and place for every comment. But like, you know, you were being a whack job in that moment. I think that's all good.

So, I mean, yeah, it's eye-opening. I can't wait for the listeners to hear it and hear it from Bubba's perspectives because I think it's a great interview. And one that's like self-reflective, kind of the way that we spoke to Brian or Kevin from the office about, like, how he's talking and thinking about the podcast. And maybe it's just like the sign of the times. but it was very eye-opening. It was a great, like, powerful conversation. Yeah, it reminded me a little bit of Jake Owen conversation when, you know, we were kind of shooting the breeze, chit-chat and busting balls,

and all of a sudden we started getting pretty real about grandparents and life and the meaning of relationships. And Baba uses the word love like 10 times about that. It's like life's more about that than it is about hitting good golf shots. And so it was fun. It was funny. It was insightful. It was also kind of deep and meaningful at times.

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as one of the top players with the schedule and how compact it is. This is probably that week for a lot of people. Having said that, Matthew Wolf is the defending champ. Frankie famously said he has like the ugliest swing in the world to Matt Wolf, I believe. It's like a beaver, yeah. A beaver? I think I use the word, I use the word beaver in some context that someone was maybe like a gazelle or a dove and then his, I think I said Rory was something beautiful and then we have this beaver out.

out there. It's very hard and rugged. My dog's barking at what I think is my subway order. I'm on a sub, you know when you order something once and then you're like, I'm going to get it tomorrow and the day after that and the day after that and the day after that. I can't live in a world without subway sandwiches right now,

foot longs, the little macadamia. It's crazy. I'm on the Jersey by train. Macadamia, the cookies? The cookies, the macadamia nut cookies?

Absolutely underrated cookies. Holy fuck. There's people. Subway's a great. Also, fun fact, Frankie fact, Subway is the number one food chain in the world. What?

The most, the most locations in the world. Oh, yeah. They're more than McDonald's? Yep. No. Yes.

And I think I think, that's the best Frankie Fact Mabber ever released on this show. I think. Now, this is without me looking up anything. I think there's only one outside of the United States. No, Subway, no.

That can't. Because I went to one in Scotland and there's just no way. That's the only one in California. That's just wrong. Or there's just, so the sad that I saw once, I was watching like a Netflix documentary on Fast Food Chains and it shows all the fucking,

like they show all the McDonald's logos, all the Subway logos, and they were stressing on the fact that it's mostly incontinental, like on our content. continent. Mostly like all there. And then there's like one or two little blurps over there on the other side of the world. Meanwhile, McDonald's is in every single country like in the world

essentially. I think that's what they were kind of play at. I actually need to look up the stat because I'm pretty sure I was like correct. Well, what you just described is significantly different than there being only one. Yeah. I think there's only one. Rest of the world. Continues to be wrong.

People who look at Burrell Scotland like lurch founded on his way from Royal Dormick to San Diego. Come on. But I'm with Frankie. People who look down on Subway, they're missing out, man. I know we live in New York City. Some of us do. I don't know where everybody lives anymore.

But there's New York delis and everybody's like, oh, it's the best stuff. I'll still get Subway, and I live in the heart of New York City. It's just, it's so delicious. And if you go to the store, I don't know if you can go to the stores anymore. I'm just wrong. So I just looked it up. I want to say this. countries.

112 countries. The players that has approximately 42,000 locations. 24,000 of those roughly are in the U.S. So that, you know, 18,000 outside the U.S. So I wasn't,

the one in Scotland that I found somewhere between Royal Dornick and Cruden Bay wasn't the only one. Probably one of 500 in Scotland. Yes. Now listen, Nate, let's not harp on the bad part of the fact here. Let's talk about the fact that Subway is the number one food chain, the most locations in the world

above McDonald's. Now, they don't do as successfully as McDonald's. They're not as successful as McDonald's. So McDonald's destroys them in revenue. But that, what happened here, my friends, is a perfect personification of Frankie because you came in with a great fact. It was really amazing. We were all very surprised. Our eyes lit up. And then you just follow it by talking more with something that was so wrong that it sort of took away from the coolness of your original fact. So that was just kind of, that's what you do. That's why you're true. You're authentic. I get my facts in passing and I don't really do any searching. So I thought I heard that. I thought I saw some sort of little little thing pop up on the Netflix. I'm like,

oh, that's interesting. There's only one outside the country. It's just not what I saw, I guess. But yeah, just to bring it back to golf a little bit, that tournament seems like huge do-do. I mean, I know. Before we get to the golf, I just have a question for the group because I'm interested in people's answers. So Subway has 43,912 locations as of 2017. McDonald's is second with 37,241 locations. Guess who's third? Burger King.

Wendy's. Starbucks. Run the clouds. He definitely looked. Definitely looked it up. Yeah. Did you look that up, Ebug? Yeah, it did.

Oh, my God. That's great. We're doing the podcast. We're all doing research, and it just happened to be on the research. Get out of here, you bug. Don't speak up if it's a guess. What's, what is it,

Starbucks isn't in the same category to me. No, not even though. Right, but that's just the number of locations. It wasn't a fast food question. Dude, I would have said there's more Starbucks. than anything. I feel like there's 40,000 on Manhattan alone. That's true.

There is a lot. You say on Manhattan or in Manhattan? I depends on the day. If we had talked tomorrow, I'd say in. It's fair. It's all in Manhattan Island. Long Island has confused me. Everybody's talking about Nantucket all the time.

That confuses me. People say on or in. Normally I would say in, but I feel like now my brain has switched where it's even remotely like an island, I say on. Yeah. I say on Long Island,

but I would say in Manhattan. I think Long Island's, you get both. I think because you could be like, no, no, that's like the, that's the island. Originally I said on Manhattan because it is an island, but people roasted me. Because I guess people, they, the boroughs take precedent. So you're like in a borough. In Manhattan's a borough. So people say in Manhattan.

If I had been feeling even a little bit differently today, I would have said in Manhattan. Like one little thing could have changed and I would have said it the other way. So you're not bound to either. shot. Not even, no. Yeah. No allegiance, no loyal. Anything else, Frank? You look like you're staring something. No, I'm just looking at this horrible leaderboard for the, for the TPC Twin Cities tournament going on this week. I mean, Brooks Kepka's playing in it, no? So, I mean, that's something. Dustin Johns and Tommy Flewwood, he fucks. Tony Fino's in there. I mean, we can, the Duff daddy's in there. I mean, we can get something going. It's not, it's not like it's the fucking

John Deere of the tournament. This is a legitimate field. Yeah. Just every time. Yeah. I hope you will. Paul Casey, Lucas Glover. What is the feeling, by the way?

Yeah, I know. That's what I was actually going to say. I wanted to give a shout-out to the listeners, Sue, who tweeted me, said, get well soon. I really appreciated that. I'm feeling much, much, much better. Monday was a very tough day.

I just got way, way too much sun. I did listen to you guys talk about it, and Frankie's right. Like, I have been in my apartment for so long, doing nothing and not being in the sun that much, that being in, 104 degree heat, I think it was, or that was the index on Monday for four to five hours just

isn't good for me. And I felt, I can't tell you how bad I felt on Monday. I think we've narrowed it down that I got sun poisoning or heat poisoning. We've got these woup bands and I checked my highest heart rate from that day. It was 192, which is just way, way too high. I'm not, my body's not used to that type of strain. I felt okay when Frank, Frankie and I got back in the car to head back to New York. And Frankie, I don't think it had anything to do with your driving. I think I was just, I just got way too much sun. And then I got home and I couldn't have felt worse.

We had like two hours in between when we got back and when we were going to record the podcast. And I was like, all right, I'm going to slam water. I'm going to take like a 45 minute nap. And hopefully I'll feel better when I wake up at like 5.30. I felt 100 times worse. So I was just like, I text to you guys. I don't think I'm going to be able to do it.

but yeah it was it was what a Tuesday morning when I woke up and like surveyed my apartment it was like a drunk person had come home like as soon as I got in the door I stripped off all of my clothes and I couldn't find my wallet it went flying when I got here there was a half-eaten banana in the kitchen like I went purely in the survival mode as soon as I walked in the door and I yeah I took a shower I laid down fronting being like oh oh oh I got You stumble around the bar. I just remember like just being in the kitchen being like this, this is how it ends.

Like I feel so bad. I had a pounding headache. I felt like I was going to throw up. And it was, I felt helpless. And I got in the shower. I laid down and let the cold water hit me. It was bad, man. And I'm glad I woke up Tuesday morning feeling much, much better because if I didn't,

I don't know what I was going to do. You taking that nap, you never could have, you could have not woken up. Like, who knows when you close those eyes, feeling in that state with that heart rate, if you just pass out, you may never wake up again, and no one finds you for another month. So, I mean, and all in all, you're kind of lucky dude. I texted you like that night because I was sitting around. I was eating dinner with my parents when we got back. I was telling him about it.

My mom was like, wouldn't let me eat my food until I texted you asking you if you, like, had sun poisoning. Because if you're throwing up and you have a headache, like, that's, you need an IV, son. Like, that's, you got to get some liquids in you. We were nervous over here at the Borrelli House. I mean, I literally went to go, like, cut my food. She's like, you can't eat yet until you get an answer to the trip. I'm like, well, he's dead, so we're not going to answer. He's not going to answer me.

He's not going to answer me. No, everyone was very nice, and I feel bad that I miss the podcast, but like, I just, I couldn't, like, I could barely even open my eyes, let alone have a conversation about John Rombey becoming a number one player in the world. Like, that wasn't happening. I knew it was bad when we were on that driving range. And you said, I think I don't. Were you aware that your heart rated spike to 190 or maybe you just like felt terribly?

We were trying to work on hitting down on the ball and you were taking an outrageous amount of swings, which is two swings is a ton for you when you never leave your apartment for 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Yep. So when you looked and you looked pale in the face, I was like, he needs liquids. And I don't know if he's going to get enough before the end of the day. And so I wasn't totally shocked to see that. But I was, I mean, obviously it catches you off guard when your buddy's like, oh, I'm physically unable. I would love, and I don't know if it's possible, but that whoop has been doing it with

the JT clip from the Workday Charity Open and yesterday or John Ron this weekend with the heart rate. I would love for them to dive back into the data and just look at my heart rate when it hit 192. I guarantee it was when we were out on the range because I remember feeling like I got to sit down because my heart was found right out of my chest. It's a wake-up call. I got to get my shit together, I think. Yeah, look, I'm glad you recovered.

Seems like you've made a full recovery. We're all worried about you. But yeah, you might want to think about some things, you know. That doesn't happen again. All right. We're going to throw it to Bubba Watson. We talked a good amount about the interview, so we might as well just hit you with the interview.

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never gets old for the second time on the show. Mr. Bubba Watson coming to us from Minnesota. How's everything going, my friend? Man, everything's good. The weather is finally cooled down, but it's raining right now. but gosh, the first six weeks, every day has been over 90. It's been a grueling six weeks with the heat. Yeah, it has been.

I mean, we've been doing these little tournaments across the country, and it's the heat in the summertime is no joke. You've obviously been out on tour playing a lot. What's the what's for you, Bubble Lots and the restart, been like how different has it been from kind of anything else you've ever done in golf? Wow. Right off the top of my head, I would have to say it's like a, it's like a challenging practice round, you know, without the fans there, with the low energy,

I guess, because the fans aren't there. So it's like you're playing a high-end practice round trying to get that trophy. It's been the challenge is getting up for it. Like when you chip in, there's nobody clapping, right? No, Tiger, what did Tiger say last week? You had like 30 people following them with media and stuff. So, you know, for even Tiger, when he chips in, only 30 people clapping. So, you know, it's one of those things.

You get used to it. And this is my seventh week on the road playing with my family with me, being in the RV. Prevost bus is a nice place to sleep every night. And so it's been a challenge that way of trying to figure out how to get energized and get pumped up. Maybe if I'm around the lead, I'd get more energized. Yeah, I'm curious kind of how somebody like you feeds off that because you've talked, I mean, when we spoke last year, you mentioned how you're not necessarily the biggest fan of being around a ton of people, of being touched. You told a great story about after you hit the shot in the playoff of the Masters about somebody kind of touching you and you being like, what the hell, don't touch me. So I'm curious, you know, with the social distancing, does part of you sort of enjoy the fact that it's a little bit more separate?

It's a little bit, you know, less crowded or, you know, how. do you kind of balance that difference? Well, that's a great question. Going into it, I thought I would truly love it. I thought it was perfect for me. But then, like I said, the energy level, it's just different. And then we all, the problem that we're all having, I think, around the world is that we all want interaction.

We're built for love. We're built for interaction with people. And so we're missing that, right? It makes it tough. And so even on the golf course, like I said, I mean, just people yelling, come on Bubba or Great Birdie. above, our great putt. You know, it's just things that we miss, that we all look forward to. So it's been a challenge that way, and I thought I would love it the other way, but I'm just

as needy as anybody else, I guess, that support, that love and that, I guess, that cheering so I can get pumped up and get excited about the round. But we're all learning. We're all dealing with it, you know, again, if I was a champion, it probably, you know, I'd be energized, but, you know, I play better and put better, and I'd be ready to go, I guess. Yeah, it's interesting because a lot of people have been talking about different sports. I know you're a big sports fan of generally seeing you be out there playing basketball. How do you feel like other sports are kind of going to be able to return, not return? How much are fans going to affect it?

We've debated on the show a lot about how much not having fans does or doesn't affect it for us watching. So to hear it from you very clearly, like, yeah, it could be a little tough to get up. How much you think that's going to affect other sports? The one sport that I'm intrigued about, which I think can create a bubble, the NBA, because the NBA can play multiple games on one court. They can get hotels like they're trying to do in Orlando right now. These teams traveling, kind of like us with us traveling, we call it the traveling circus. It makes it a little bit tougher to stay in a bubble, a perfect bubble.

There's no such thing as a perfect bubble, but trying to create that, I think that we all need sports. People sitting at home. People want to see live sports. That entertains us. That keeps us going. That keeps the economy going around the world. And I think that the NBA can do it perfectly.

I think NFL with so many staff, so many workers, so many players makes it tougher. But they're trying to create it. We're all trying to create it. But the NBA, I think, has the best mojo going forward of creating this perfect, so-called perfect bubble. And I can't wait. I can't wait to watch other sports. You know, my minor league baseball team. We're up here in Minnesota with the Minnesota Twins,

who we're affiliated with, you know, minor league baseball is shut down. But it'll be interesting to watch baseball. Some of the highlights that we've been watching. Being able to see Sports Center the real way now is good. Seeing some of the highlights and seeing people play sports again is always fun. Yeah, you might have to like, I don't know, I was thinking you might have to get Ted Scott to like hype you up and start clapping for you.

hand shots. Exactly. Just carry around a speaker and just turn it on, you know, every time you make a good job. What's the vibe from the rest of the players on tour? You said that you kind of, you're surprised that you feel like you need a little bit of the crowd to get you pumped up. Does everybody feel that way? Is it 50-50? What's kind of the vibe with the rest of the PGA tour players? That's another good question. I would say, you know, when you're around the lead, it's a little different. I think when I'm Texas, I finished top 10, the first one, back. I was pumped, right? Because you see your name up on that first page of that leaderboard. So you start thinking, you know, it's just a different mindset. I would have to say that the guys, there's guys out there that gets nervous, right? You play with Tiger. You get, there's a bigger crowd. There's more cameras. There's more movement. And so I think some of the younger guys are at, they have it a little advantage right now because they've never seen these crowds. They've never

felt these crowds. And so right now, their nerves are probably a little different. Like I said, it's a glorified practice round, I guess you would say, without the energy out there. And so I think it's helping some of the guys where the nerves and stuff don't get in there. You don't have the crowd movements and different things. So it's probably helping some people. It's probably hurting some people. So I'd say, I'd say it's about 50-50 without even asking them, without polling them or anything. I want to talk a little bit about what Bryson's doing, what Bryson's Deschambeau was doing, you know, you've been notoriously, you're pretty much your whole career, a very long hitter, distance has never been a problem, you're definitely not like a, um,

a juiced up jacks, you're clearly not dominating out there in the gym or trying to add 40 pounds or whatever. So you as kind of a guy who's just through your mechanics, through the width of your swing, through being up, who's always had that distance. What are your thoughts on what Bryson's been able to do and how much he's changed his game? You know, the beauty of Bryson is that he's not scared to to be different. And I think in our sport, you know, a lot of people try to find that perfect swing. And what Bryson's doing, the first time I met Bryson was Chambers, he probably doesn't remember this, but Chambers Bay. I was with Brad Elder. And he said, hey, have you ever met Bryson? I said, no, he knows he was an amateur at that time. And he was telling me about his golf clubs

and why he does his golf gloves, those links. And very interesting guy, very intelligent guy. And what he's doing now is remarkable to be able to hit it that straight, that far on command. Obviously, like anybody, you're going to have good days and bad days, and you're going to have bad swings and good swings. So what he's doing consistently at that distance is unheard of, but he's put the effort in, he's put the work in to do it. It's not for everybody, and who knows how long it's going to be for him.

We saw Tiger get really heavy muscles. We saw Rory get muscles. I mean, we even saw David DeVall back in the day, you know, thin up and get some muscles. And so they did it for a little bit, and then they went away from it. So it's interesting. It'll be interesting to see how long he does it and how long he likes doing it, you know, and your body wear and tear, too. But I think it's very interesting for the fans to see it.

I mean, he's doing something that's really never been done. A couple things from me here, sorry. I don't mean to start earlier. I know I have a bad sunburn. I'm in a car right now, but I'm a fellow lefty, so I'm very happy to have you on this show. I've always been a huge fan of you, man. But the one thing I want to say is like,

and also I love the fact that when we said, what's going on with Bryson, you just immediately chuckled. Just saying, like, let's talk about Bryson makes people laugh right now because what he's doing is so just outrageous. Is watching him affecting the way you're going to be? about the game right now? Are you constantly not thinking of different ways to how you can change your game?

Or are you always sticking to the Bubba Watson plan? Is he affecting anything in that realm of your game? That's a great question. I'm gonna keep saying that every time, just to me. I don't get many of those. We add those up, and that's huge. Yeah. I get paid every time I say that.

It's great. No, it's funny. I've never had a problem physically. So I don't think about the physical part the game. Obviously, the only physical part I think about is trying to make more puts. But, you know, if a swing coach comes to me and says, hey, can you hook it? Yes. Can you slice it? Yes. Can you hit a high? Yes. So I'm not thinking about the physical aspect of the game ever. I'm always thinking about mental. I have a lot of mental issues and trying to work through those on the golf course and in life.

But physically, no. But watching him, you know, I'm a fan. Like you said earlier, I'm a fan of sports. And so when I watch somebody, I want to see what they're doing and see if there's anything I can take from it. I'm not going to the gym and I'm not going to eat that many calories. So I'm not going to take much of pricing. But the giggle part is because he's coming outside the box. I mean, he's an outsider and he's proven that you can do it. For how long we're going to, we'll find out together. But no, that's why you giggle is because he's actually doing opposite of what everybody else says to do. You know, we always golf sometimes, I don't know if y'all

ever heard this, but golf can be boring sometimes. And when everybody does the same thing, same kind of swing, tries to practice the same way, it just looks, it looks boring, looks silly. And so that's why we need the craziness. And the craziness is not bad.

It's just craziness because it's a different thinking. Me moving the ball is a different thinking than most. You know, I'm taking after Lee Trevino, Sevi Balaseros, the way he played golf. And it's just different thinking. And Bryson's doing something right now that's, man, it's awesome to watch.

It's awesome to see somebody have an idea and actually make it work. Bub, I want to talk more about you saying it's never been a physical issue for you ever. Because to me, that is so fascinating. And every one of us, we've always got swing thought, five swing thoughts, 11 different technical things that somebody told us on the internet or on YouTube that we're working on. And even Tiger, you see Tiger on the range, and whether he's with Sean Foley or whoever he's with, he's got someone holding a club to keep his head still.

And we never see you doing that kind of stuff. So have you ever had like physical swing, a physical swing thought or what does that mean to have no worry about the physical aspect of the game? It's great. I don't really get in a slump. You know, when I go out and play, with me and Teddy go play, like, you know,

it's always in the 60s. It's always just carefree. So I'm trying to learn how to take the carefree attitude to the golf course under pressure with with thousands of people, millions of people watching around the world. I'm trying to learn how to how to figure that part out, like how to how to just relax and stay committed each shot. And sometimes I get away from that mentally. Physically, if you tell me to hit a shot on the driving range, it's not one shot I can't hit. Well, maybe the Bryson bomb I can't hit, but I get older. But, you know, so, yeah, I mean, when I say cut, I literally think, right,

aiming at the right side of the fairway or right side of some trees and then slice it back. And so that's what I think in my head is aim over there and slice it. Aim over there and cut it. Aim over there and draw it. That's all I think about. I don't think about my P2, my P7, like Charles Howell. I always just think about, you know, we're going to hit a hook here. We're going to hit a cut here.

So luckily for me, I've been blessed in that way where I don't really have to think about the face. angles and different things like that and where my elbows are. My issue is all up in between my ears trying to stay focused. You know, I've got a lot of thoughts going through my head. Like, what are we about to have for lunch? And I just had pancakes for breakfast. So, you know, while I'm talking to y'all. So I'm trying to figure, and I'm also trying to figure out, why is he wearing a bucket hat in his car with a sunburn on his face? That's another thing I'm trying to. You said you guys are dealing with a heat. We lost Trent yesterday due to sun poisoning. He couldn't make the podcast. And then Frankie's face is as red as a tomato. So he's getting all the protection as he can. Listen, I'm trying,

I'm driving down, I'm driving up to Cape Cod right now. We have some work obligations up there. It's about a five-hour drive. I'm sitting on the highway, just cruising. I felt the sun hitting me. I reaching the back, got the bucket hat on because, man, I'm heating up right now. I'm like 105 on the surface. Well, you think you'd close the sunroof now that I look at you. I was thinking the same thing. Close it, man. I didn't think of that. Yeah. I should have parking some like, I don't know, parking garage or something. Hey, what kind of car are you in right now? An infinity.

It's actually my parents' infinity, so I don't want to ask if I'm walking around and anything. There's a true. Living in the basement, I love it. Yeah, exactly. Coronavirus rules. Everyone's just living in their family's house now. So, you know, I've been back on Long Island.

And it's been, yeah, it's been crazy. It's funny. So in terms of your game, it is, it's amazing to hear you say that. you're trying to bring the practice around the carefree attitude because the one time I've ever played golf with you, you shot seven under from 7,600 yards, and you didn't even putt particularly well. People ask me at all the time. Like, oh, it's the game. It was like he just stepped up, he hit it. It was very carefree. He was chit-chatty. So, I mean, how, in terms of working on the mental part of it, and Frankie could probably take a lot from this, how do you try to

improve your mental game? Like, what are techniques or drills or or thoughts that you're trying to have? Is it up to Ted to, like, try to get you in that, on that right track? How do you guys try to kind of conquer that and bring it to the course in play? Right. I'm trying to listen to a bar school podcast so I can get some insight somewhere. But really, you know, it's coming down to commitment. And right now, when it comes to Teddy, I've actually reached out to a bunch of people.

Claude Harmon, I reached out because he's been around some great golfers, right? he's working with some great golfers, has worked with great golfers, trying to figure out how do these guys, how does Brooks Kepka, how does Dustin Johnson, how do they focus? What are they thinking about right before they hit? Like how do they, you know, Jason Day, he closes his eyes and visualizes his shot. So I'm trying to just, in my head, basically,

I'm trying to repeat committed, committed to this shot. I'm trying to grab the club, and that's it. Once I grab the club, it should be commitment. It doesn't matter if you hit it. the water or not. If you're 100% committed and had a bad swing, you can deal with that. It's the knowing that your mind is somewhere else while you're swinging. And that's where people get frustrated and get so fired up on the golf force and get angry, you know. That's where we see the fire because they know in their head they weren't 100% there.

And that's where I'm trying to get. I'm trying to get at least like 95% there, so I have a better chance. But that's where I'm trying to, I'm trying to, trying to get to. When I pull the eight iron, I want to stay with that eight iron. I don't want to think, man, if is it a hard nine or is it a baby seven, you know, I'm trying to pick one shot and go with it. When I'm in the middle of the fairway, I have a million shots I could hit. So I'm trying to, last week was the first time we really focused on that, is focused on that shot at hand and that club in hand, no matter if it's wrong or right,

you go with it, and hopefully it turns out somewhat decent. So I notice you're a CBDMD guy. We've actually, we're CBDMD guys too. Does that help at all? Have you tried to implement that into kind of helping your mindset, your body? How does that play it? Yeah, I've been using the product for gosh, over two years, almost three years now. First of all, my sleep has been unbelievable.

I sleep probably, I just pass out when I go to bed because my mind's racing all day. But yeah, helps 100%. I believe my anxieties in life all over the map have gotten better. And obviously, now we've got to hone that in the golf course. But my off course life is tremendously better. My wife would have to agree with me on that. And then the gummies. Who doesn't want the gummies, right?

It's like you're eating candy. And so that's usually, those are the, I use the, in the morning, I use it. And that night I use it. And then the gummies throughout the day. But yeah, tremendously, I would say it. has to help me in all walks of life and then especially sleeping, being able to sleep and play this game as you get older for your body to recovery is the best part. So yeah, I'm trying to use it and trying to use it in a way that can help me throughout my whole life and my whole

recovery process of getting older and playing golf. Are guys chewing CBD gum out there? There's rumors that people are chewing CBD gum. You see Phil, you see Tiger chewing gum. Are those rumors true? I've never, I'll be dead honest, I've never asked the guys what to do it. That's fair. Feels weird to ask your buddy that question. What are you chewing on, right? Is that trident or CBD? Let me smell your breath.

Yeah, I heard rumors too that people have, what is it? What's that gum? Nicorette. Yeah, I've heard Nicorette gum, you know, and I've heard CBD gum. It doesn't really, you can't really put that much CBD in it. So it doesn't really affect as much as, you know, as a good gummy would. So, yeah, I haven't really asked them what flavor they got. It's so crazy to hear you talk about, like, the mental part of the game

and how you're still searching for, like, what it is that you need and how to get to that next level. When you're so successful as it is without that, to me as, like a hacked offer, I have the worst mental game of all time. I step up to, I'm in front of a bunker, maybe some water, and I'm already saying, oh, shit. And like I can't tell you how many times a caddy or a guy I'm playing with. It's like you ruined that shot the second you pulled that club and you said that in your head.

You already, you already mentally put that ball in the water or in that bunker clubbed it. It's amazing to me that like someone like you has gotten so far in the game of golf and still searching for like the answers when like I always thought that you guys were just born with that. You had that. That's the ability you had over us. Because like anyone can swing a golf club at the end of the day. It's just like when you get to that level of winning championships and, majors. I always thought that you needed that. And the fact that you're still at this point in your career searching for the answers is stunning to me. So like it's all just been off just pure

athleticism and and and you know just piecing it together to this point. Yeah. So you have moments, right? We all have moments where we perform and whatever that chaos is in your head, when you're under the gun, like when, gosh, I can think about it. When, It's San Diego when I won Farmers, and I think that was, gosh, 2011. I came to 18, and I had a seven iron in my hand, and I was thinking about this shot, you know, and I can remember just taking a mind off of, started thinking about the trophy. I had a two-shot lead. I know I had a one-shot lead over Phil, I think it was.

And I took my mind off of, and I shoved it way to the left in that bunker, and the pins in that front bowl just over the water, if you know, the course. course at Torrey Pines. And so I had this great, then I got focused again, right? Like you're like, oh my gosh, what are you doing? Just focus on what you got to do. So I had a beautiful bunker shot and made the putt and then feel tended to flag from 70 yards. But, you know, it's one of those things where if you take your mind off for a second, and I've had moments where under pressure, I pulled off the shots, pulled off the putts, where I have won. But how do you get more consistent? Look at Tiger. 82 wins. But his mental game is probably the best we've ever seen.

Don't get me wrong. His physical game is far beyond everybody else, but his mental game is so good as well. It's like he never misses a putty has to make. And when I say has to make when he's top five and he's got a six-footer, we don't see him miss those rare. I mean, rarely, right? We're all humans, we're all going to miss them.

But it seems like he's mental focus. His mental preparation is always better than everybody's in the world. And that's what we're trying to get. How do I make it to the Hall of Fame? How do I become another major winner? How do I win another tournament? How do I, you know, get these FedEx points? I've got to get better mentally.

And that's what I've missed throughout my whole career. I've had moments of greatness when it comes to mentally, but I need more consistent. I'd rather have good across the board instead of great, bad, great, bad. I'd rather just be more consistent. So this one comes from a listener of ours who was out at the Barstville Classic, our tournament yesterday. Jake, he brought up the fact that recently you kind of talked about how there's certain players who, I think you said, quote, matter tremendously in terms of who you're

paired up with when you're playing. You went on to say there's guys that are a shot, maybe a two-shot penalty when you see their name on that sheet as they're playing with you. Not going to ask you to name names, but if you want to name names on who that could be, we'd listen. Oh, man, I'm going to definitely say Brooks Kefka. Yeah, smart. It didn't get that well. No, Brooks is amazing. But anyway, it's, gosh, it's, we've all talked about it.

I mean, since I was a rookie in 2006 on the PJ tour, my caddy's been out here since, Teddy's been out here since 2000, right? And so he gave me some names going forward in 06 when we started working together. Me and Teddy hadn't quit me yet, by the way, since 06 we've been working together. But, you know, it's one of those things where you just know it. Like you know the people that are going to get you. Like when you're playing with your best friends, right, you're going to have fun.

You're going to get excited about the rounds. You're going to just shoot the breeze about life. You're going to laugh. When you hit a bad shot, he's going to make you laugh, whatever it is. And then you have the guys that don't talk much or you have the guys that are different antics that just make it not fun. And so we all have that. It's like at your golf club, right?

If you're at a members, a member's only club, you have the members you stay away from and you have the members you like to hang out with. It's just like, it's any walk of life, any business, any work that you have in life. You're going to have people you like right now, like you guys. You know, y'all going to act like you like doing these podcasts together. But there's some guys you get mad at sometimes, you know. Totally. There's, yeah, I think from like what you said, that like beautiful, like equilibrium of

stress and focus is just like so hard to find and recreate. But I do think it's a lot about like the group where you're at that time because just to be able to like when I play my best, it's when I'm stress free, but I'm focused. And like that balance is so hard to recreate on like a daily basis. And so it's, it's, you know, it's something that I'm sure everybody's striving to at different levels. You know, you say you're like 90% there. If you're 90% or you want to get to 90%, I mean, that means the four of us. have got to be down in the 30s. But it's definitely a challenge,

but it's interesting that, like, everybody's striving for that. I mean, Frankie said that everybody can swing a golf club. I don't know how true that might be to certain degrees. But it's certainly, I mean, that's like that's the fight of golf, is trying to get there to play your best on any given day. Yeah, so with it, I mean, on our tour, right? On our tour, we have, everybody can hit the golf ball, right? Some hit it far, some hit it short, some people can put, some people can chip,

whatever it is. but it's the mental part, right? The mental part is what takes people, separates people. Rory can pick a golf club and just swing it. He doesn't, he doesn't, on TV or watching him live, it looks like he has no care in the world. He's like, I'm going to hit this draw six iron over this water, and I don't care if it goes in the bunker in the water.

I'm hitting this shot. This is my shot I picked, I'm going with it. And he looks so carefree as he plays. And that's where, and I don't. don't know if he's faking it, you know, and underneath he's scared of death, but he's faking it real good if he is. And that's where I'm trying to get to. You know, I get so anxious because of, you know, I mean, you've got bloggers out there. You got social media out there. You've got the golf channel. You got ESPN. I mean, I've got fans. And what I'm dealing with is more

selfishness, more ego, more like I'm trying to get that out of my system. I want to fail and not have any problems with it, right? But I'm a human being and I've had struggles, gosh, since I've turned pro and 02 struggles of what people think about me. And I strive to be a better person every day. And man, I can go sit in my house and be the best human in the world. But when I get out in the public, I get nervous, right? I see people judging me. I see people looking at me. Are they really? No, it's probably all built up in my head and nobody cares what I'm doing. But that's how I feel. and that's where I'm battling that issue of worrying about what people say about me and how they feel about me.

And that's where I get anxious and I just can't even think straight when I'm playing golf or just walking around in life. You know, I get nervous about everything and how people see me. And that's where I get upset and that's where I black out, I guess, on the golf course. After that three putt, I'm like, oh, my gosh, they're making fun of my putting right now. Do you see? Go back to Bryson for a quick second. Do you see a little bit of yourself and Bryson?

He's obviously had a couple of run-ins with the cameraman recently and then the rules official the other day. Do you see a little bit of yourself and Bryson in those moments? Well, I think we all have a little bit of me, right? I think some people, like I said, some people can just hide it. Some people, some people could just, like I said, like there's guys that can hit shots on ease, right? And there's guys that can do the middle part with ease.

there's people that can hit a baseball. There's people can throw a curveball. There's some part of your life you do better than other people. And there's some parts where Bubba Watson fails where other people succeed. And there's parts where I succeed and other people fail. So I think it's just some people are made differently. And that's a good thing. We don't need a bunch of Bubba's running around or a bunch of Bryson's running around.

But yeah, I mean, you can see that in moments. And when I look at it on TV, I'm like, gosh, why would we? do that. And I'm like, well, I did that, you know, I did that a lot. So, so I'm better at it. You know, I've talked to him quite a bit over the last few years. We've worked together in some things. And so there's a lot of people like that that I've reached out to us. Hey, man, you don't want to be like me, man. You don't want to be a YouTube star because you're goofy and you're dumb and you made a quick decision. So, yeah, I've reached out to people and tried to help them a little bit here and there. But yeah, I can definitely see it. I think we all have it, right?

We all have our moments, our breaking points. I think it's really cool to hear you say that and to hear you be that honest about stuff because on the surface, a lot of people, a lot of fans of the sport would look at Bubba Watson and think, you know, two-time Masters champion. He's won on tour a dozen times. He's got millions of dollars. Like, why would he care at all about anyone saying X, Y, or Z about his game? Because clearly he's one of the best players, one of the best players, one of the best.

best in the world at his craft, which is so rare for anyone. And he's crazy successful and he's got a beautiful family. So he doesn't care. But it's really cool, I think, to hear you say on a human level, like, no, I care. I see certain stuff. I think about insecurities, no matter what it is. I'm aware that I'm bubble Watson and there's things that I'm not as good at or competent in as other people and that it might be vice versa for them. I just think for someone who's a star, for someone who sign an autographs for kids all the time and who's on television all the time, to hear that kind of honesty is very, very cool. And for us, as bloggers and podcasts, like, it makes me sit back and think, like,

okay, I need to really think before I tweet something or before I write something or say something on a podcast because, and that's the beauty of doing this show is that you learn that you guys are people and that you're just human beings who happen to like your job, what you do is very much, you know, it's exposed. on TV, you get all kinds of exposure and positives that come with it, but that you're a person, you have feelings and thoughts. And I think, so for me, I just like, I think it's very cool to hear you say that. Yeah, thank you. I can remember there's one moment. I'm not, I'm going to try to leave out a lot of pieces, but I don't want to bring it up, I mean, to that level, but a guy was

wearing a shirt. You can probably put this all, you can probably put all the puzzle pieces together. The guy was wearing a shirt, a fan. Well, I don't know if he was a fan, but, it was, you know, It had a person's mug on it, we'll call it that, on his shirt. And I was like, wait a second. And I didn't have a police officer with me. I was going to throw them out. I was like, if I had a shirt with a picture of your family member on my shirt that looked like this, we'll call it a mugshot. And I said, you would be devastated.

You'd be so mad at me for pointing this bad situation out, right? And that's the things that people, and that's what made me realize, this was a couple years ago, and it made me realize that because we're entertainers, we're on TV, movie stars, golfers, basketball players, it doesn't matter, CEOs of companies, musicians, whatever it is, right? Legendary podcasters, whatever it is. I mean, we're all here as people. And that's the problem I see is we're all searching for love, right? We all need love.

We're all born the same way. We all need love. We need respect. Men won't respect. Women won't love. I read the book, The Five Love Languages. And so, you know, we're all searching for that. And so, yes, it gets tough.

And it gets tough because I'm a human being, not because I'm a two-time master's champion, right? It's not easy. You know, I've faked it through life enough. Now I'm just here to tell. Kevin Love came out and talked about his mental issues playing in the NBA and some other some other famous people have come out and talked about their mental issues. And I think we have to. And that's the only way to overcome it.

Me mentally to overcome it because I hear it coming out of my mouth and showing other people that we're real people and we all have issues. There's people that can hide their issues very nicely. But deep down, they have the dark side. And I think that we've got to let it out to the lighter. We're all going to cave real fast. Yeah. Take me to Boba Watson Church, man.

I want to sit in a pew and just listen to you speak about life. I mean, I'm ready to go. Like, I'm coming on Sundays. This is crazy. I mean, you have such a good outlook on life. I never, in a million years would have came onto this pocket while I'm sitting in this car with all this summer and wearing this bucket, I'd be moved by Bubba Watson. Let me tell you, you can't wear that bucket hat in church, though.

You got to take that off. It's true, man. That's awesome. That's great. Transparency, I think, is, like, the best way to bring these things light is just being open and honest, and I think that's hard because you put yourself out there to, like, you know, kind of some of the unfortunate people of the world that take you down for putting yourself out there because everybody goes through it. But I think that is the only way to like overcome a lot of things, not just, you know, things that are going through people's head with regards to their mind.

But really like everything, I think bringing things to the surface and having like open, transparent, good conversations around it as long as they're healthy and good nature can help accomplish a lot of things. So it's always nice to see that. It's always nice to hear people like yourself, put yourself out there because I think that only inspires others to do the same, which is always good. So I compliment you for that. Right. I'll go ahead and give you all an inside scoop because, you know, we're going to be transparent. I'm working on a book right now. I've been working on it during the pandemic.

We had some stuff, some come up in this pandemic that, so we're working on a book. This first prequel I've ever told. There's only about five people that know about this book. It's more than five now. but it's all about now six people know because there's moms watching this so um you know it's one of those things where Kevin Love when he came out I praised him so much for coming out and talking about stuff and it made it inspired me to do it and I my whole thing about this book is publishing it myself and doing everything is is about trying to inspire one person and the more we talk about it kind

of I don't know how we got on this topic but we're on it now and it's about inspiring people who cares about Bubba Watson as a golfer. I need to, I want to change one person's life. And that, that hospital that we were a part of in Pensacola, the Children's Hospital, I mean, we're talking about generations to come when I'm long gone, right? And then showing my kids, hold on, buddy. It's all good. Hold on, but I'm sorry. And so, you know, it's one of those things that I want to show him and I want to show my daughter, Dakota, that we can, that we can help other people. It's not just about us. And that's going to help us, I think, mentally, physically, and obviously a better world in the future.

It's great. I mean, it is. And Bubba Watson's coming out with a book. That's crazy. I'll be reading that. You should do an audio book. I want to listen to you speak it to me. I want to put on my AirPods and lay in bed.

I'm going to get Teddy to read it in Cajun. That's great. Breaking news on the show, which I like now. Six people know about it. I want to talk a little bit just quickly about the 2019 Masters. So, you know, Ladd, you're obviously, we talked about a couple of times. We went through in pretty good detail when you were on the show last year about your victories last year at the Masters. You know, you kind of, I believe you come out with 72, 72.

You shoot 67 on Saturday to kind of get in there. You're final. And then on Sunday, you bury the 15th hole to get to, I think, 10 under par. And you're right in the mix. And there's a ton going on. There's 10 guys that could win the tournament. Tiger Woods is doing his thing. What are your first thinking about that when I say that?

What was that moment like and sort of what was that final round like with everything going on? I remember how good I was playing. I was in the moment. I was doing everything I needed to be doing. And Augusta gets you in that moment. Like that's one of those places where I can focus in. I can hone in because it's so difficult. It's so beautiful.

I can hone in fast. Stop. I can stop this. Sorry. I got a special guest. He's protected me. And so, you know, it's one of those things where I had the moment, I had this flashback where I got, again, I got out of where I was.

I got out of focusing on the shot at hand. I told Teddy on the 16th hole, I said, we got two holes to go. After the 16th hole, I got two holes to go. If we go Bertie, Bertie, we could win this. We're down one right. At that moment, there was one moment where I was down one shot. Now, the leaders were teeing off number 10 at the time. They still had all those holes to go.

But I was like, we can do this. And about that time, I sliced it so far in the woods and I went bogey, bogey. But, and that's where it was. The mental, I flipped. Why? If I would have just forget about who could have had a chance to win and I would have just tried to play in my best and went par par par,

I would have finished like fourth or fifth or whatever place it was. But I went bogey, bogey and finished, I think, 11th or 12th. And it was that moment where I just, in my head it was a panic. It was like, we could win this. And it's like, nope, just. keep doing what you're doing. You've jumped up this leaderboard because you're doing your own thing. You're focused on every shot. And for that one split moment, I was like, we could win this.

And it was like, I said that I went, then I went further instead of staying the moment at hand. And that was where I jumped real fast. And then you're disappointed. You're like, what just happened? That was the quickest 20 minutes, the quickest double boge. Well, let's say 45 minutes, last two holes. And then that was the quickest two bogeys I've ever made. That's where I saw it in my head. It just went so rapidly trying to now win instead of just play golf. But obviously, it's a lot better story having Mr. Woods win it than me. So it was very exciting at the very end of it. But yeah, for me, I just jumped and I went way ahead in the future talking about winning in my head instead of thinking about that shot that I needed to hit at that moment. Yeah, as a, I mean,

as a fan of the game and you're close, obviously, with Tiger, you know, you guys have had a long history, you've known each other for a long time. You've been on teams together. There's a lot of reports about, you know, you text them about wanting to help them out with captaincies. So how much as a fan of the game is someone who was there, you know, at the end, witnessing it all, how did you kind of take in Tiger winning the Masters and sort of, you know, completing the comeback and having witnessed it? What was that like for you?

It was unbelievable. And luckily, I got a front row seat. So I'm in the Champions Locker, right? We're watching this. And we weren't going to leave until the winter, right? And we were sitting there. They had a couple holes to play, maybe three holes or so to play. And there's other champions in this locker.

And we all put our jackets on as fast as we can, you know, just to remember back, you know. I said, hey, why don't we go down there? I mean, this is history in the making right here, especially as we knew coming up 18, he was going to pull it off. So the guys that were in there, there was probably four or five of us. I'm not sure. We all put our jackets on when we all went down. Past champions, we went down.

And luckily for us, when you have that green jacket on, you can go wherever you want. And so we stood right there in front of the scoring and waited for him to come down, obviously, with everybody celebrating, everybody cheering. I mean, what a moment. And so for me, getting to see him and getting to see his family and his kids and the reaction, the smile, the tears that he was shedding. And then, you know, having buddies there that support him, right? Like I said, that's what we want.

We all want love, respect, support, whatever words you want to put in there. And so that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to give a friend. I could care less about his golf. I could care less about his accolades. I care about him as a person as I got to know him and know who he is and what he wants to do in life. And so I wanted to support him and be there. And so giving him a hug after that was awesome.

Being able to say I was there, right? Like, you know, who was there when Joe Montana threw that pass? You know, who was there when Wayne Gretzky did something, right? Like, it's like I get to say I was there and there's pictures to prove I was there. I was in a green jacket. And so it's one of those things that you can't write the story as a fan and as a fan of his. And then, you know, luckily for me, I was blessed that a week later, about five days later, he gave me a text and he said, man, thanks for being there.

means a lot. And there was a few years ago, gosh, this was, and this was probably in 09, 10, 11, somewhere in that area where I told him that I wanted to be there for his next major. I texted him, and I said, man, I want to be there for your next major, man. And luckily for me, I was there. And so that's what I text him after he texted me a couple days after the win. I said, hey, man, I was so thankful I got to be there for your major. So it was a cool moment for me. You know, when you have a legend of a, a, sport that I play, text me and text me out of the blue and text me like that. It means a lot. And again, it goes back to, like I've said, and like I mentioned, this book coming out.

To me, it's not about my accolades. It was for a while. And now it's about, you know, the things I can do and inspire off the course and do things like Tiger. Tiger's given back so much to people around the world that, you know, I won't reach that level. But I try to, I strive to reach some of that level that Tiger's been able to give back around the world. Bubba, it's, I tell people all the time, because I think you were actually the first PJ tour pro I ever played around the golf with. And people ask all the time, you know, what was it like? And I say, man, Bubba and Teddy were shit chatting.

They were laughing. They were busting balls. They were just as normal and friendly and sincere as you could imagine. And I think that a lot of people were going to get that, again, from. this conversation, you know, like Frankie said, take me to the church of Bubba because you got a great outlook on life. It's very cool to hear you talk about, you know, the human aspect to it and everything that you do and how important it is, you know, even you saying it's for Tiger. I didn't care about him when, you know, and doing the golf well, I care about him as a person. And I think that that's such

a cool message. And to get that from you on a golf podcast is great. It's a great thing. I'm glad people got to hear it. And we really, really appreciate you taking the time. Yeah, man, thank you. Thanks for always having you, man. It's an honor and a pleasure. You got it. Thanks, Bubba. Appreciate it.

That was awesome. Thanks, Bobba. Sorry for taking your dad's whole day, but. Yeah, you can go back to the lake now and puts around. I'm sure it'll be a good one. Go fishing. The sun came out. We're going out there now.

Yeah, time to go fishing. I saw you pick up that fish with the net the other day. That was pretty quick. Oh, my gosh. It was so funny because he said, man, they said, there's no way you can catch that. I said, man, I got fast hands. Watch this. trust the body

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what's more important, what's priority, his golf priority. No, it's more about family. And you can think, you can feel however you'd like about bubble Watson, but I do think it's very, very difficult to come away from that interview and have negative thoughts about that man. he's very raw he's very honest he's very real and i think that that's um that's a very i don't know it was a very enlightening and cool conversation to have yeah and also it was very difficult to stay clean during that interview because i know that he's a he's a family man he's and he's he doesn't like to you know use much um bad words many bad words and that's a christian man he's a christian man it's tough for me to to do a clean interview like that there's a lot of times

I wanted to drop. I was just thinking during it. I just wanted to sing that like that Blink 182 song. I was like, shit, piss, fuck, cock sucker motherfucker. I just wanted to just scream it at him and see if he like squirmed, but I didn't. He was awesome. He was an awesome dude. I really like Bubba Watson.

Always have, I've gone back and forth with like how weird he is on the golf course, but always loved the lefty with the huge swing and the pink driver, especially me being the lefty. I've gone out there before and done the Bobba Watson swing where like you finish real high and you try and hit a huge slice. bait around a tree or something. So it was really cool to talk to Bubba. Always going to be a big fan of him on the golf course.

And now off the course, because he's like, he's like my pastor now. You'll grow up one day, Frankie. There's really no reason to feel like you need to curse like that after a nice conversation. All right, Lurch. I mean, that was such a dad thing to say.

Yeah, go sell some software or something. Come on. Get the fuck out of here. Bricky, you did say, you don't realize, because I didn't, wasn't cognizant or conscious of like being clean but i do remember when you said shit in the interview frankie i was like oh yeah he's like he's probably not that into swearing but you weren't like you didn't say it in a crazy way it was it was it was funny but like i just didn't think about it until that moment

yeah i think it's the only one that slipped out and i'm pretty sure like when people curse and drink around and he doesn't care he just doesn't do it himself right uh anyways big thanks to bubba i hope people enjoyed that and I'm sure we'll have him on more going forward. I think he enjoyed that as well. I think he's clearly the kind of guy who finds it a little bit therapeutic, able to get it off his chest and kind of reveal and discuss in longer form who he is and what's going on in his mind and his brain and his life and all of that. So thank you to Bubba coming on the show. Appreciate it. From the gallery is up next. The first one I'm going to bring up is COVID Cup rulings, mostly because the Barstall Classic. We've all talked.

talked about how in your own for some, you know, that you can kind of come up with whatever you want. I think we've also talked about how with the classic, like, we've made the ruling of, if the ball doesn't go in the hole, it doesn't go in the hole. Somebody sent me a long, so somebody, a couple of martial classics ago, had an instance where they came up to me after like the eighth hole or whatever it was, said, hey, we had a birdie put from like eight feet. It clearly would have gone in, but the cup, it bounced off of like the little BS cup and bounced out our whole group agrees.

No doubt about it. That's in, do we count that? I said, well, no. If it didn't go in the hole, it doesn't count. I'm sorry. They ended up missing the cut by one stroke. So that bounce cost them a trip to Hinehurst. And then they followed up and said, look,

Commissioner, we understand. We get the ruling, but we just wanted to send this in. And it was the USGA has actually put on their site in their rules that, you know, if the group can determine this for hand- If the group can determine that the ball would have gone in if it weren't for unique circumstances due to the cups being different or whatever, that you're supposed to count it. Now, my reaction to that is very simple.

Yeah, there's certain things for handicapped light. You can't take worse than a net double. That's not the true in the Barstville Classic in a golf tournament, but it is true for handicapped purposes. And I would say that's the exact same thing for the COVID cups. that if it doesn't go in the fucking hole, it doesn't go in the hole because we have no way to police it. Do you guys still agree that if it just doesn't go in the hole,

there's nothing else we can do about it? Yeah. Correct. You can't just have it so subjective that it's like, yeah, that could have gone in. It's like you just never know with pace and everything like that. The only thing I will say is if the ball isn't directly like the bottom of the hole, but it's leaning against the pin, I'll count that as like it.

Wait, what? if the ball is like kind of inside the cup but it's not like down but it's just leaning against the pin because like the pin isn't perfectly vertical you know it might be leaning in like leaning to the side and it's pinched the ball there i still i would count that as good pinched it in the hole though like yeah that would be in yeah that's what i'm saying i'm just saying like in terms of the variables that i would count that that would be the only one that i would say is like that's definitely yeah i would say as you as a commissioner and basically a governing body of a tournament like you can't have it the other way. Like it has to, you have to air on the side of it doesn't count because

then you're just going to have people coming up to you nonstop being like, it didn't go in, but it bounced out and we all agree. Like, you just got to nip all that in the bud and be like, if it's on the whole, it doesn't count, that's it. Yeah. Right. I agree. Okay. Just wanted to put that out of it. So all bars for classic listeners, that's just the deal. I do think that the late, the last three or four or two, we've had the PVC pipe, which I think it almost never happens with the PVC pipe that the ball doesn't stay in the hole. What happens, some of them put those, like, plastic rims, and they'll put them, you know, three or four inches down or so.

And those occasionally, if you hit it just the right speed, can go in the, like, go in the side of the pin, hit perfectly and bounce up and out. And I think that's happened to a few people. But and the pool noodle, because sometimes people, the pool, pool noodle is almost too, like, buoyant and bouncy, and the ball can kind of, if it hits perfectly, bounce out of that as well, whereas the PVC pipe, I feel like it's, I don't know,

it's less likely to bounce out. So, anyways, this is kind of the shit that we're doing with. If it doesn't go in, it doesn't go in. I don't know what else to tell you. That's just going to be the rule. Kevin, Kevin says, an Augusta member invites you to come play, Augusta National, but says that you're only allowed to bring four golf clubs. Which clubs are you bringing?

driver yep seven iron wedge cutter we mailed it yeah although you know I may pick three one over driver

well the other thing is maybe on 12 do I just take whatever club that is so I can hit one pure one now I have to think about this because any standard course I'm like driver seven iron wedge putter that at least let me to score.

But like, I would go three wood over driver for sure. I can hit my three wood. I can crank my three wood sometimes where it feels like I'm always going to use that instead of a driver anyway on T. And then you can use that on the fairway if you need to. Exactly. Whereas the driver driver and putter, you're basically, there's only two spots where you can use it.

Whereas if you bring the three wood, you can use your three wood, I feel like a decent amount. You can use it when you're really far out on a par five. or if you're really far out in a part four out there. You can even use it for bump and runs around the green. Whereas I, you know, and I'm with you, Frankie, that my driver in three-wood, like, there's times I could go back to back

and just hit my three-wood farther than I hit my driver. It's not that uncommon. I have to hit my driver. I have to bring my driver. I can't. I'm not good with my three-wood off the T. I can sometimes sit it pretty well in the fairway, but even those recently have been few and far between,

and I hit my driver so well that I'm not going to have as good of a day if I don't bring my driver. Yeah, driver seven. an iron wedge. You have to bring the putter. I just don't think, I get that you don't use it as much, but imagine not putting on Augusta Green's. Like if you have just like a wedge, like that's not nearly the experience that you would want to have. What, what distance are we playing? I don't know that you're allowed to play the Augusta T's. I think you almost from, because I think last time we had a big discussion about which T's you play or whatever, a lot of people were

responding much of heart. I was like, oh, obviously you can't, you're not allowed to play the Augusta G, which how the fuck I kind of remember that, yeah. Hey, you know what? And I've said this poor, we're making up a fake hypothetical in my head. I'm not going there. I'm not going there. They're like, that's how to something like, okay, oh, in the world of fairies and gum drops, you're not going to be

able to do that. Like, okay, I'm sorry. Then I apologize. It's the same people in Game of Thrones. That would be like, there's no way they got the dragons flew there that fast. You're like, what are you talking? What are you talking? I got ice soldiers in this show. Like, what are you talking about? But, yeah, that was my fucking argument when I played that place, Cherry Valley,

when they had that modified par four and they turned it into a par three, but your drive somehow ended up there. And I got into that huge debate on the fairway where they're like, well, no, like, you would have hit it here because, like, the fairway funnels down. And I'm like, this is a fairy landing gumdrop golf course right now. And you're arguing with me about strokes that aren't. What do you mean I hit the ball in some alternate universe to hear, and now I'm hitting two?

No, I struck the ball once. Man, that just triggered such a bad fight in my brain. I'm with you, though. Like, that'd be like if we were like, how far do you think you could hit your drive on the moon? And someone would be like, well, you can't get there. Like, you're not going to, you can't. What do you got to rock it or something? It's like, well, we're talking about things that aren't happening.

Yeah. What are the members tease in Augusta? I think they're like $6,500, something like that, which, is about what we usually play anyways. I might go then four iron, six iron, eight iron, oh no, four iron, seven iron,

wedge, putter. I would probably go three wood, seven iron. Now three wood, six iron, like maybe 54 degree wedge and a putter, maybe maybe even like 58 degree wedge because like at least then you're getting the pure Augusta experience all around the greens. And it's just getting there that's up to you.

But you could still be like, okay, you know, whatever it is, 60% of my shots come from within, you know, 80 yards of the green and in the cup anyways. So I can just have that normal experience. Also, what a dick this member is. What a just a jerk is member. Yeah. It may end up being the best round of my life because I'm just right down the middle, just hitting seven irons, 165, 170 yards, straight down the middle, not south, like not, just advancing the ball. There's no better feeling than when you're like, when you're like, you have to hit it,

like to the right of a tree and you're like, oh, like, just land it somewhere out there. You always hit a good shot there. When you just have to advance the ball through the fairway and you're not aiming at anything, no bunk, no over bunkers, no pins, no greens, I've never miss hit a shot where I've had to advance the ball. Like maybe a couple times you like dribble one out because you try to crush one. But if I'm in my head just like, all right, I'm at like the range right now, just to the ball straight. It always happened. So I feel like I would actually play pretty well. And also the other day when

we were at Atlantic City, we were trying to hit this like skip across the water shots. I had a four iron. And I hit like a punched four iron from the teeth from the T box out into the fairway. And it was like a low draw right down the middle like 190, 200 yards. I looked at large. I'm like, why don't I do that every single time? I'll never, ever hit the ball in any sort of damage ever. It was just like a put and the ball went forever. Yeah, that was great. I mean, the goal was to skip it over the waters, though. So you missed that by a long shot, but you did hit a good golf shot regardless. Dude, actually, that reminds me.

I felt so bad. I'm with Jake. We're on the, what is it, the fourth hole, which is a par three that kind of looks like the Liberty National par three, that's 14. I'm like, I'm looking at this kid's club. He's like, yeah, he'll hurt you want to hit a celebrity shot. I'm like, yeah, I'd love to. He's like, what do you want? I'm like, yeah, get me a pitching wedge.

And I'm looking at the club, and it says, M.G. I'm like, what kind of sticks are these? And he's like mirror, mirror clubs or mirror golf clubs. I'm like, oh, shit, this thing's like probably $500, a thousand dollar club. And I have no glove and it's sweaty and it's hot and the whole thing. And so I'm trying to dry my hands. I'm like furiously, like I'm like, this thing is going to slip out of my hands and go into the rip. So I take the club back.

As soon as I come with the down swing, the thing just falls out of my hand. And I pretty much slam his pitching wedge into the ground. to the point that I'm like, I just might have bent the thing. And then I stupidly was like, oh, can I try it again? And he was like, he looked at me and he didn't want to say no. And I almost did the same thing the second time, except I caught it in my hands and then just bladed the ball into the water. Jeez.

It's a minute. Why would you go for a second swing? I don't know, dude. I'm a psycho. I don't know. That was a bad. Yeah, that seems like a mental error there. Right.

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infamously viral, where everybody in the golf world was quote tweeting and responding to this guy's tweet. But it was some troll on Twitter who made a ridiculous claim where it was like, Distance is everything. A four handicap could do really well on the LPGA tour, which is crazy. That is one of the worst takes in the history of golf. Like the LPGA tour, they play for like 6,500 yards or so, which you get as similar to what we play from.

And they shoot like 20 under bar, 25 under bar. Right. That's just they're so good at golf. They're so accurate. It's pretty crazy. And like Maria Fossi hits the ball farther than I think we do. Like she pounds. So it's not like they all can't hit the ball with any distance.

They can move it out there completely fine. But his main point of his question was, how do you think the four-man scramble would fare against a top-10 female and what role does distance play for the four of you in that scenario? I think we would kill, we would kill a top-10 player in the world on the LBGTor. And the only thing I'm basing that off of is we beat Kevin Kisner, who's a top 35-ranked player in the world in the men's game. several women have played in PGA tour events,

and while it's not like they can't keep up and do it, but it's not like they've done extremely well. So I'm just going off those reference points that, yeah, I do think the distance would factor in. Not that we're that much better, but we as poor men together pretty much comprise of at least a top 30 ranked player in the world in the men in the game, and I think we would destroy any female in the game.

We would beat the best one. So I think it depends. A huge thing for me is it just depends on the yardage we play. Like we played Kisner from 76. If we play a top male or woman from 6,500 yards, like I think we're going to have a really hard time winning that much. You? Yeah.

I just think they're so good at getting the ball in the hall. I just think that women, like I think where the difference is that we play it from 76, like when we played with Paige the other day, like she hits a really good golf ball, but she's hitting hybrids when we're hitting like, you know, seven irons or whatever the case is. And I think that's where we'd like really take advantage from a longer golf course. Yeah, but I would say, like, we're, we shot a, we shot two under 68.

Yeah. Highenders number two from 70s, which is really a four under. I mean, they just, they just call that a par 70, but we really shot like four hundred. So if you put us at 6,500 yards doing what we were doing, we're going to shoot 8, 10 under par, like if we play the way we play, which is not going to happen every time. So you're telling me that, you know, a female, even a top 10 female in the world,

like playing from 6,500 is pretty much around, like, them topping it out or, you know, lengthing it out as much as they do. And they're going to shoot 8 or 10 under or whatever. I don't know. Yeah, I think we've got a good chance. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

You're right. Don't be wrong. We could come out and play not as well as we did last time and definitely lose. But I'd think overall, if we played 100 matches, like, again, for like just extrapolating from the evidence that's out there against the top 10 female LPGA tour play in the world I think we'll win like 95 yeah I that might be 95 might be a little high

but I'm with you that we're a happy favorite yeah like but we are I guess too we are one we are one player having a bad day away from just we're just eight shots worse right right we're just isn't his irons the way you hit him like we just lose lose like four and three to kids. Right. Right. And you take everybody, if you take one piece of everybody away,

we're just dead. Yeah. So that's like, we have to pack the, but with the evidence at hand, I think we would destroy an LPGA tour play. I just,

I think we would. I'm with that. I completely agree. I mean, Jin Yung Coe is absolutely predominator, number one in the world. I mean, it's not even close.

Daniel Kang, done. We're just completely roasting. I think so too. And I do think if we play... It's not just about them. I think we roast... I want to say almost any PGA pro at this point, too, because I beat us, right?

Like, I mean, we're 1 and 0. We've got the crown. Yeah. There's no evidence to suggest that we would lose. Correct. In the sample size that we have, that is so massive. There are... Like John Ra- We would destroy John Rahm and a scramble.

Yeah. I mean, currently, currently, based on the evidence, like, there's... There's no proof that we would lose. The only proof is that we would win. I mean, there's 10 to millions of golfers in the world, and we went up against a top 30 or 40 one of them, and we just beat them. So there's no evidence that we won't beat everyone, basically. So, yeah, I think we would crush an LPGA tour player.

I think we will beat any PJ tour player as well. And I think we're going to continue to prove that because we're working on more matches, we're working on more courses and I think that we're going to continue to be a force to be reckoned with in the golf world that the four-man scramble while we might suck individually as a collective group, we're pretty fucking good.

Well, the best is we're all very different. Our games are all very different. And so we need each one of those pieces to come together and if you do that, we actually have a pretty good team. If we once, so I firmly believe we'll get another match soon, hopefully sooner rather than later.

if we go 2 and 0, then the world's all over. Then we're pretty much, then we should be in the John Deere Classic. We should, like, we should just start entering tournaments and just saying you got. Our next one's the most important one because if we go 2 and 0, then we go 10 and no. Like there's no stopping us, but if we go one and one, we could go on a 10-game losing street. I agree. Yeah. Do you think there's a way we could sign up for a tournament?

Like, can we, how do we enter, like, a PGA tour term? Is it like Michael Scott declaring bankruptcy? I guess we've done that on the podcast where we're like, let us in. Let us in your tournament. Well, can we try and qualify for the U.S. open, like, just like enter these, like, the mid-ams and all these things and we just enter his scramble? Yeah, can we enter as like Monday qualifier for the 3M?

Can we just, like, enter that and just, yeah, we're here. Like, four-man scramble, that's our name. Let's look at the paperwork of that, but I also think I'm just going to tweet at 3M like, let us enter your tournament and hopefully that works out. Your do-do leaderboard tournament, let us play in it. Do you want another top 30 ranked player in the field? Then let us come play in Minnesota.

We'll be there tonight. If they accept that, we'll be there tonight. If we're playing in that TPC Twin Cities tournament, the 3M, I'll get on a plane tonight and go there. We just get on a plane, actually. But yeah, I think we would win. I think we're a force to be reckoned with. Okay.

I think that's all we got today. Everybody enjoyed the 3M this weekend, despite the fact that we're not in the field, but hopefully it will be next week. Big thanks again to Bubba Watson, to all of our sponsors to Jake and eBug, producing and editing our show. Big thanks to you guys.

Nice to see you. Also, go watch Molly's game. I've gotten so many tweets and DMs about how good of a recommendation that was. I'm not kidding. You guys will enjoy it. It'll be a great experience. Trent,

watch Molly's game. I know you're going to be doing nothing tonight. Just watch that fucking movie. Figure it out. Get it on what. It's on Netflix. Just put it on a TV. I saw it.

Yeah, I'll pop my top and I'll maybe eat a banana split, which I've been known to do. I saw when I was skimming Netflix the other night and I just couldn't commit to it for no reason whatsoever. I'll do it. I'll watch it. all right see you all right boys everybody have a lovely um lovely weekend hit it hard

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