Fore Play - Building An Empire with Nadeshot

Episode Date: May 31, 2022

Nadeshot (00:42:53) — founder of the Esports team 100 Thieves, builder of a gaming and streaming empire, huge golfer, and a Fore Play fan — joins the show. We discuss the early days of competitive gaming, building a success story despite his parents not understanding, golf’s similarities to gaming, significant others packing suitcases for you, and much, much more. In news, Sam Burns takes down Scottie Scheffler in a playoff, LIV Golf has yet to announce the field for its upcoming event, and the U.S. Women’s Open descends upon Pine Needles in Southern Pines, North Carolina.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Oh, boy, I love you. I hope you puke during this. That would be amazing. And I got to somehow do athletic events and golf in like two hours. How do I do this? What do I got to do?

I can't see my, I can't, I don't have any fucking glasses on. I'm recording. Leave this shit in. Foreplay, preserve at Barstol Sports. We are back. We are remote. It's Memorial Day weekend, so it's quite the shit show, I would say, to begin this show. We have an awesome show.

We have Nate Schott, who is one of the biggest names in new media, digital media, aka gaming over the last few years in the world. He's the founder of 100 Thieves. He's a phenomenal guy. He's a big Barstool fan. He's been a big fan of ours for a few years now, tweeting at us, posting stuff at us occasionally,

commenting on shit that we post. We're like, does this fucking guy who is enormous, enormous, enormous, this guy? Does he know who we really are? Is he really like our stuff? Came to the Barstool Classic, sat down with us for over an hour,

shout the shit, and it's an excellent interview. One of the best that we've done, his story, how big he got, how grounded he is while getting that big, the inspiration for Barstool. He likes us.

which is always really cool. So it's an excellent, excellent interview. So largely this show is going to be all about Nate Schott, his life, his story, his interview. But boys, how are we doing? I don't. I'm going to let Frankie take that one. I'm going to let Frankie take that question.

I'm the most hungover person on the fucking planet. There's no denying that I'm minutes away from a possible hospital trip. Like, I don't know that my body, my body is barely surviving. If you want to talk about the physical feeling and science and health, I'm close to death. I'm real close. Was it an all day thing yesterday? Was it just like what was the, what was the trajectory of your yesterday? You know what it is, man?

It was I hosted my first like barbecue on Saturday and that got wild. Like finally at the new house. I got like 20 of my friends over. Got the grill going for the first time. And it was just drinking all day. Karaoke at night. Karaoke. Yeah.

We were, I mean, you know, I'm a huge karaoke guy. Did you rip Sturgel? Oh, yeah. You can wear the crown is my go-to. Don't let the sun go down on me from fucking Elton Johns. My other go-to. We got piano man going. Everyone arm in arms singing it as the whole group.

People are hugging in the corner. Like, it was just a fucking night. I got drunk. Then you wake up. We went to long. Beach and Long Beach on Long Island is it's Glenny Balls. It's, it's, it's, it's, uh, balls beach wear everywhere. There's bellies hanging out and it's just fucking go time. And then like that, that's an all day affair. You look at your phone. You're like, it's six o'clock. How is this

possible? You get home at 1 a.m. You're like, I need to go to a hospital. So we wake up for this podcast and I'm not feeling great. I got to, I got to do it again today. It's Memorial Day. Thank you to all. Thank you to all who have served that have allowed us to be free and live in the greatest country ever in all of humanity, the greatest establishment of a country of all time. Thank you to everyone that has allowed us to have this Memorial Day where I am so hungover and I have to go out and golf today. You know what? It's not that bad of a life, boys. I think I can survive. You're a little bit of Michael Scott when he's sick too. Like when you're hungover, it's, you know, everybody knows it. You got to hear, I was groaning this morning, like,

taken off the, dude, I don't know why my calves hurt. I can barely walk. I don't know what happened to me. I was like, I looked to see if I got bit by a tick because I got no movement in my legs right now. I have no idea what's happening. No, that's when you know. That's just because you've been standing and drinking for so long that you're just not used to standing. It almost has nothing to do with the drinking. It's just that you had to be in these places standing.

So your legs hurt. I've been through that a million times. Dude, have you realized that standing's hard? Yeah. Your back starts to hurt. And then you're wondering like, why? Why can't I just stand? And me, I'm so pathetic.

Sometimes, like, if I'm wearing too, like, tight of a shirt, my shoulders will hurt because I'm, like, trying to keep good posture. And then, like, an hour in, I'm like, why do my fucking shoulders hurt? It's like, oh, yeah, I'm trying to stand. Standing is tough. It can get tough. Sitting is sweet. When you've been standing for a long time and then you just sit. Oh, yeah.

It's up there, one of the real simple pleasures with just pissing when you really, really got a piss. such a good feeling and when you've been standing forever walking golf you get that a lot you get to just fucking plop your ass down it's excellent um so yeah you guys get you guys get you guys get pshay yeah oh yeah yeah i do yesterday bar just fucking knee-to-kne urinals i'm talking fucking and it has nothing to do with anything i don't care if a fucking guy wants to look at my cock i don't care about any of that shit it's just i can't my brain i couldn't fucking go man and you got to like close your eyes and look up and just be like i don't know just go and I got pee shy yesterday.

I had to pee so fucking bad and I couldn't do it. And I had to go back online and go back in. You know how embarrassing that is? I've done that. I've done that. It cost me 30 minutes one time. We were in Minnesota. We were with Dave or everybody else.

Everybody thought I died or that Irish accident. I went, waited in line for 15 minutes, got up there to pee, couldn't pee. It had to be that guy. I refused to be the guy that stood there forever because the line was so fucking long. So then I went back in line. One of my new things is I do the close your eyes, look up and I think about waterfalls. Yeah, I just. Couldn't, I was, the lights were out upstairs.

And I don't know how I didn't just piss my pants. Like, I don't know how I had the, I couldn't function in any other realm of my body. But for some reason, my body was like, you can't pee right now. I don't know why. It was fucking infuriating. Yeah, I don't have that side. I can kind of piss wherever I want. It's nice.

It's, because I don't even know how to relate to the feeling that you guys are having. I don't know that I just step up to the plate and hit a home run every single time. Fuck, dude. That's great. That was like the first time it's happened like probably in a long, long time. It's a bad feeling, though. It is. Yeah, it sucks.

All right. Well, we got plenty to get to, tons to get to. A live show. We're doing a live show, boys and girls. Now, I know Trit Ryan here is a live show veteran at this point. People are throwing bras at him. He gets chant. They chant his name.

He drags the luggage out. It's the whole thing. He's confident. He's border like cocky, I would say, going into this live show. I'm pretty nervous. I mean, we're going to be at the Wilbur. It's going to be June 13th. It's Monday of U.S. Open Week.

So clearly golf will be in the air in the Boston area. We're going to have a couple special guests. Awesome guests. They're going to come out. So it's going to be great. It's going to be easy with, you know, you guys with these guests. But I'm going to be nervous as shit. We've never done a live show.

I mean, we've done, you know, live streams. I've done a few radio shows where we were live for Final Four and things like that. But even that's more the bar was just kind of occurring around us. And we were, you know, people were paying attention, but it wasn't really about us. This is going to be hundreds of faces, have bought tickets, are sitting down in seats staring at us with their eyes and ears focused, and it's up to us to make it worth their while for them to pay, drive into town, go through fucking traffic, do the whole thing because of us.

So yeah, I'm going to be a little fucking nervous so we do our live show. I'll be nervous. Of course. Yeah, actually, so I thought about it a little bit more because with these types of things, when there's such a lead-up, you can just sit and think about it. And when I was thinking about it, because I did say, I believe on the Corey Kisper, Brian Erlacker episode, that I was not nervous whatsoever because I've done so many of these, I will say with some thought, when I would do the chicks in the office shows, they would do the lion's share of the show. They would just do like an hour and a half. And then I'd come out for 10 minutes, blah, da, da, da, da, with my luggage and I'd dance around.

That'd be it. We got to do, it's a little different this time around because I'm out there the whole time. So it's not going to be this thing where I show up for five minutes. then people throw bras at me. Although, even with all that said, I'm very excited for it. I think you guys are going to like the live show thing. There's a rush that you get. We do a lot of cool things.

Obviously, these last couple of weeks, we've done some of the coolest things you can do in our line of work. But there is something to the live show thing where it's unlike any other thing that we've ever done because it's so immediate. The feedback is immediate. Everything we do mostly is a podcast. We put it out and then people tweeted us about it or whatever. videos, same thing. A live show, a live podcast, it's right there. And it's just a different feeling.

It's a lot of fun. Once you sit in the nerves a little bit and realize, all right, we're doing this. This is going to be fine. Then it's really, really fun. I'm excited for you guys to experience that at the Wilbur on June 13th. But I know there's going to be a lot of nervous and sleeting up to it, a lot. It's going to be a wild show. I don't know how we've gotten to a point where we just do live shows now.

They're going to have just mics on us and people are just going to listen. I still don't believe people listen in this podcast. So the fact that we're going to Boston, like you said, huge theater. We have special guests lined up. It's just going to, it's going to be a night. It's a night of four play. It's a culmination of all the years of doing this podcast. It's the U.S. Open Week. It's going to be fucking awesome. I'm nervous. I'm sure I'll get taken out in handcuffs. I told, I told KSC Radio that they were doing like a live show in Nashville. We were coming down there that weekend after that could you come early, maybe do like, some KFC radio with us and I was like boys if I hop on that stage with you there's no going

back because who knows what I'll say up there and then it's just it's out and I absolutely get taken off that stage in handcuffs so that's always that's that might be worth the price of admission right there to see if my life ends in Boston yeah I agree with that I mean it we do a lot of our job where we get to just edit it and whatever so I mean, this is just going to, it's a lot. I mean, it's a live fucking show. So there's really no, there's no cushion. There's no safety in that.

We're just going to be up there slinging it. There's be pressure to be, you know, ah, dance for me, you know, clown. And there's going to be. So, yeah, I think, I think they'll be nerves. I'm more excited, I guess, than I am nervous. But as we get closer, I'm sure I'll be nervous or shit. If you haven't gotten tickets yet, go get them. We're going to be up there for a few hours.

The Wilbur is an iconic theater. I've been there many times, seen comedians play all kinds of different stuff. So I've been there when the KFC radio was there years ago. And Dave came out. Dave did his walk to the Wilbur. So there's a lot of history of this place. It's right in the heart of Boston. A lot of cool shit going on around that area.

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Yeah, that's right. You put your little toes in sand there. Yeah, I rolled my pants up. And we were at the Jake Owen Charity Foundation thing. And I just, that was the first time I touched the Atlantic. It just hits a little colder out here. You know, it's refreshing, specifically the Long Island. Like if you go to Jones Beach or point look at any of those places, it's a little colder.

You know, you got to be, it's a little more blue collar of an ocean. The Atlantic? Yeah. The Atlantic is the blue collar ocean. The Northeast Atlantic, like our version of the Atlantic is for sure the blue collar ocean. It's like seaweed. Like Montauking on that? That's blue collar ocean.

Maybe not at Montauau. But it's just a little more rough. You know, they do the surfing out there in Montau. So yeah, I'd say, I'd say a little, like, you know, you got more waves. I just, well, not that they don't fucking surf in California. I think that's what that's all they do. I don't know, just something about the ocean in California is just completely different than I've ever seen. And when we go in it, it's just like, wow, this thing just hits different.

I'm just used to, like, no, fucking beer bottles rolling up against my ankles. There's definitely some spots. The Atlanta's got, like, the icebergs, too. It's a Titanic, whole history. I feel like that. You're right. That might be a little, it's a little scarier. Yeah.

You feel like the ocean's a little scarier in the Atlantic. Is the, this is a really dumb question. Is the Pacific Ocean warmer than the Atlantic Ocean? I'd like to say yes. Well, I know like out in Hawaii and such, Trent, you've been to Hawaii. It's very warm, right? Like, you don't need like a wetsuit or anything. But I think in California, I think it's pretty fucking cold there.

They wear like wetsuits when they surf, don't they? I believe so, yeah, sometimes. This is tough. Yeah, I don't know. You know, I don't know. But here's where I'll defend you, Frank. I think when you get the West Coast sunset, it just makes that ocean more, it's a little more white collar.

You know, I mean, when you got, they're not painting. You got that sun melting into the ocean every night? That's, that's a little different. Yeah, they're not painting, they're not painting sunset pictures based off of fucking Long Beach. They're doing Long Beach, California, not Long Beach, New York. Yeah, so I got you. I defend you on that.

one. We got some, a couple programming notes for YouTube. Tuesday night tonight when you're listening, we got Matt Wolf blindfolded coming out. And then Thursday night on YouTube, we have episode one of Trent Ryan breaking 90. Wow. Hell yeah. That's exciting. Yeah, I think it's coming out a week later than I thought. I put up a tweet like a couple weeks ago saying it was coming out PJ Championship week, but we've been traveling so much. Fuck them. Fuck him. Yeah, I'm just, yeah, our guys have been traveling so much. So it's coming out. now. I'm excited. I mean, my episode of Breaking 90, it's very good. I go down there and I see Hillary again. I spend two days with him. We work some things out again. I, you know, we judge or get a

feel for whether or not he thinks I can actually do it. We have a great time. It's always- Because that was a big concern. That was a big concern for him was like, are you even a 90s golfer right now? Right. His text messages to me before I came down there, while very polite, because John Hillary is a very polite, nice man, I could feel it because I'm the same as him where I'm like, oh, he's got some doubts about whether or not I can do this. So we went through all that. We worked for a couple days. It was a great time while we were down there. But I'm actually really excited as well for the Matt Wolf thing because that's a video unlike anything we've ever done before. We blindfolded each other. We're hitting golf shots. We're with Math Wolf. It's,

it's a great video. It was a long debated topic too, was hitting golf shots blindfolded. We debated about Rory to the point where Rory, on his little golf pass thing, I think they stole the argument and debated it on their show. So the whole kind of, you know, elite level golfer hit golf shots blindfolded. That's been an age old debate on this very show. So we were able to take Matt Wolfe with his swing because we thought if there's anybody who would be the least likely of these top level golfers to be able to swing blindfolded, it would probably be Matt Wolfe because he does the whole lookaway thing and the knee bed. and the action and different.

So we have Matt Wolf. We play a golf hole. All of us get blindfolded, and we play a golf hole against Matt Wolf and see what everybody shoots. So it's an excellent, excellent video. He was such a trooper, such a good dude, that guy, all in, even with everything going on,

and he's moving back, and he's in Oklahoma, and you're not sure when he's going to play, and sometimes he comes out and he looks and is great. Sometimes he's talking about him. You all right? Yeah, I was cute. Bro, I thought we lost you. That was loud.

That came from the body. I felt like I was back on the cousins right there. That was supposed to be a fart. That was supposed to go out my asshole and it came out my mouth. Like that, I felt the gas come up. Brew the body. Dude, that really was a cousin's moment. There was one time when fucking cousin Murray dropped his kit.

And we all, me and Zah and Glennie thought that cousin Murray had died. We were like, we need verbal confirmation. cousin Murray that you are still live because it was just this and we're like oh great like one of these 70 year old dudes just hit the ground and now like I'm our live on air we're on serious xm we're gonna call 9-1-1 or we're going to record the 911 call what's this guy's address what are we going to do so that cough was very reminiscent of that show can we put that audio in right here please you can just find it on Twitter it's one of the funniest clips of all time this is cousin

Murray, Zah, Trent, Glennie Balls. This was the Cousins on Sirius XM, one of the more outrageous shows that have ever been played on Terrestrial radio. That's not good. And the same thing as you walk into a bar and say, I'll have a corona. Whoa. Right. So, yeah,

you guys send me the article, and I figured this was happening as well, but now, does someone just fall? Are we good? Wait, Cousin Murray, you okay? Couser Murray. Whoops. Sorry. You all right? You're right? Yeah, I know, I was I was sorry. The,

the headphones fell off. You died. Jesus Christ. What's that word? What's the word? You can't. What's the word? What's the say for it?

No, that's nothing to do with me. It was like banana? It was the safe word? Chicken? I'm sweating like crazy. I thought he just had a hell. I thought he fell.

I thought he fell in these dead. I thought you like that when that show, the guy, uh, red fox. You go, my heart. My stomach just turned over right now. When he didn't respond right away,

I almost threw up. Right? I almost threw up. It was the headphones. I was just fixing the thermostat. The headphones fell down. Cousin Mike was laughing to do out. threw out.

He was laughing. What an asshole. Have that. Yeah, have that on the record that cousin Mike continued to laugh through the entire thing. I was about to Google the Massachusetts State Police and get them on this. And at that point,

it was Trent, Trent Ryan with two probably 73, 74 year old Jewish men who, you know, would talk about what you would expect they would talk about. And when one of them, they can never get any of their equipment. right technology was one of their great enemies and when one of them goes down like that with the

sound like you just heard yeah it was alarm he was concerned when i logged it on twitter i was like did they just put the death of one of the hosts on twitter so yeah that reminded me of that as well i'm glad you're okay but anyways when matt wolf again he's coming out he's talking about um raising you know uh awareness and people's thoughts for mental health issues then he comes out and he contends and then sometimes he takes time away, and he almost won the U.S. Open. So he's a little bit all over the place, and everybody to get.

And when we were with him, he was just locked in, all in. He wanted to do it. He wanted to shoot a video. He wanted it to be funny, and he wanted to hit the best golf shots he could. So he's fucking awesome. I love Matt Wolf.

People are going to love that video. And then obviously breaking 90 is one of the most beloved series in the history of the internet. So that's coming out on Thursday night, episode one. We're just back. You're just back trying to attempt to shoot

a certain number in the game of golf. It's as simple as that. It's a great first episode. And, you know, we're just ready to go. We are absolutely ready to rock on this journey to make you an 80s golfer, which is nuts. The fact that Trent will end this series shooting in the 80s is fucking psychotic. Has that hit anyone's brain yet? That within however many attempts, you will then shoot an 80 something.

What are we talking about? Yeah, we've come a long way from the beginning of this show, from the beginning of my life. from all of that. And I will say I feel good about it. Like I feel very confident. I've been playing more. I've been, I mean, I've been playing with you guys a little bit, but I've been hitting the ball better. I'm not going to give anything away, but it's just like I feel like it's definitely possible. It might take a little bit. I don't know, but it's, I, the tools are there. And that is actually a big part of the first episode with Tilly like we were saying, where it's like, what can I actually do this? And if I can, how soon is it going to happen? What am I going to have to do to make it

happened. It's going to be fun. Like Frankie said, we're just back at it. I'm very excited. The crew's back. The crew was just, you're just back for another season and you're trying to tackle a certain number. I think you're going to do it. I'm hearing good things about the way you've been hitting the golf ball. I've seen you hitting the golf ball. Great. So yeah, all that's coming up this week. Be prepared. Be excited. A couple talking points. Sam Burns defeat Scotty Schaeffler in a playoff at Colonial. Sam Burns finished, I think, two hours before because the course is playing so difficult. He gets in at nine under. I think He shot like five under yesterday.

Second tournament in a row, obviously Justin Thomas a week before, where the winner came from seven shots back on Sunday to ultimately win the golf tournament. So it just really speaks to how hard it is to close out and win a golf tournament, even if you're number one in the world. Harold Varner, the third, friend of the program, awesome guy, shot a back 9. 45 yesterday after, I believe he had a par put on the 12th hole to stay. at 10 under and tied for the lead and he ended up shooting a 45 and finishing like T for 27 or something. So it was just chaos coming down the stretch yesterday.

Scotty Schaufford made a bunch of putts for PARs to save the day, give him a chance. And then ultimately, San Burns made I think a 30-something footer in a playoff, which not the first time he's done that, to beat Scottie Schaer, the two of them are best friends. I believe their comment was that they are not even best friends on tour, best friends, the two of them. We've chatted with both of them a lot about one another. They were doing pizza reviews together in New York. We were all there for the Northern Trust last year.

And then there they are in a playoff against one another. Scotty Schaffer then made it to his sister-in-law's wedding. I saw that. Minutes afterwards, which is a cool move by him. So a lot going on. I imagine on Sunday and Memorial Day weekend, probably not the most plugged in people are in the world to professional golf. But when I got home, tuned in, it was a very cool playoff.

See those two going after it. Two just studs in the game now. I think they have, God, what does Burns have like three wins this season? And Scotty has like four or so I think they're at like seven total wins this year. Yeah, I saw a stat that Burns has four wins in the last 13 months, which I mean, obviously there's a lot of talk about Scottie Schaeffler, rightfully so. He's been winning like crazy. He's winning.

He's trying to win his fifth tournament yesterday of the year. And it's what's the date? It's not even June yet. That's May 30th. Crazy. Crazy. And then, but then there's Sam Burns, who has won four in the last. 13 months. So these are just two young studs who really like each other. You could tell even during

the playoff. Like playoffs are usually, you know, each guy goes his own separate way and then they just finish the finish the tournament. These guys were walking down, chatting, laughing. So it's a good duo. It was, yeah, Scotty made some crazy putts down the stretch even to get into that playoff. And then Burns just buried that 38 footer, which was insane. It was, yeah, probably not the most locked in people are on a holiday weekend, but still a good tournament. Understandably so. Understandably so. So congrats to San Burns.

Congrats. A couple other things. The U.S. Women's Open is this week at Pine Needles, 10 minutes away, eight minutes away or so from Pinehurst. This is a Donald Ross course. There's a lot of people talk about,

you know, when you go to Piner's, how obviously great the Piner's courses are, but how great that area is in general that within 10, 15 minutes, there's a ton of phenomenal golf courses. You've got Dorming Club. You got Tobacco Road. That's about 25, 30 minutes away.

You got Pine Needles. mid-pines, southern pines. Well, Pine needles is one of those. It's an old, again, Donald Ross, publicly accessible, and they've had U.S. Women's Open before. They're having the U.S. Women's Open there this week. So tune in. We got major championship golf.

This is the biggest prize in women's golf by far. Michelle, we, of course, won the U.S. Women's Open at Piner's number two in 2014. So there'll be a lot of flashbacks to that. But major championship golf, their biggest prize, their biggest tournaments, It's what all of them grow up, dreaming to win. So it'll be fun to tune into that and obviously down to the Pioneer's area.

And then some news on the live golf. So live golf, the old Saudi League, is set to begin their first event. The old Saudi League. Still in the news. June 9th through the 11th in London. And there was all, everybody was reporting on Friday that the list was coming out for the field list and it just didn't come out. And so everybody was wrong about that. And now the, you know, the narrative, the story has shifted to that Jack Nicholas has told people that he turned

down a hundred million dollars to be the head of live. And so live now as maybe a fuck you to Jack Nicholas for that move is waiting until the memorial, which is this week, to announce their field so that it will take away from the, you know, tournament, distraction, whatever. I've been looking because I've been like, they just haven't announced the field yet. But I haven't, has anybody seen anywhere? They just didn't announce the field? No, they were supposed to, they were definitely supposed to on Friday, and everyone was getting geared up for it, and then it just didn't happen.

So. Danny Rapaport was tweeting up a storm about how, that's all he heard. It was like May 27, I think it was. That was just the date. That was the date from multiple sources, and then it just never came out, and he's just like, this is getting ridiculous now. Here's what I, here's what I will say about the whole thing, is that especially with the Jack Nicholas stuff,

if you are, because lives their idea or their theoretical idea is that they are going to be a complimentary tour to the PJ tour. That's kind of what they've been saying. They want every day. They just want more golf. That's what Greg Norman keeps saying. He's just like, we want more golf events. And these guys can play in both.

That's what we want. But then, all right. But then they're doing this thing potentially where, they offer Jack Nicholas $100 million to be the head of it. He turns them down. And then at a spite, they're going to stick their fingers in the eye of, you know, one of the more iconic weeks, one of the more iconic tournaments on the PJ Tour because he said no. Like I just, this whole thing is so stupid.

And it feels like it's way more smoke than it is fire. It's just when are they going to put this list out? What are they going to do? Oh, they're going to do it during Jack's week, during Jack's tournament to spite him because he said no. or they're going to do something, they're going to release, they were going to release something during the players because, you know, they were mad at Jay Monaghan. Like, if you guys are trying to operate as your own independent tour,

then like, why are you taking all these shots at the PJ Tour? What is really happening is that they want to take all these guys from the PJ Tour and make their own thing and sport wash in Saudi Arabia or wherever these tournaments are. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. And it's just, at this point, it's super annoying. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't have. Greenmore, Trent. I think you're spot on. I think like, I mean, every, every press release that they've put out, that Greg Norman's put out, has been salty as fuck. So it's like, super salty.

They're not, they're not approaching this in any way in terms of tonality, in terms of moves, like they're in conjunction with and that they want to be a compliment to the PGA tour. They are approaching it like they are a direct competitor to the PGA tour. They're just refusing to say that and trying to beat around it. So I think that's very clear. I think who's it? Richard Bland is like the one guy that's committed. I just saw, I was looking on golf channel. And it just says,

Richard Bland, like many, awaits first live field announcement and possible fallout. So it's like he's just the one name that's like, who's coming with me? Super ironic that his last name is Bland. Super ironic. It's a vanilla fucking ice cream. It's amazing.

So, you know, who knows? I imagine the next couple days. There should be some announcements on who will be in that. field. Frankie, I got a question. Your boy, Dr.

Brett McCabe, he's a big inspirational quote guy, huh? I just see him on Twitter a lot. Yeah, he's his last one.

At the end of the day, Dr. Phil. Yeah, at the end of the day, whether or not those people are comfortable with

how you're living your life doesn't matter. What matters is whether you're comfortable with it, Dr. Phil. Yeah. He did a Dr.

Dr. Seuss one the other day, too. They do. Some of them come from unlike these sources. There was one the other day from a mall

Clooney, which, you know, He's digging deep. Yeah, he's digging deep. Yeah. Or it'll be like share, which is, it's, they're very interesting. I guess everybody's got inspirational quotes, but he likes inspirational quotes.

He just has like a tickler file in his notes app and whenever he sees a good one, he tosses it in there. I'll be honest. I love a good inspirational quote. Like people I feel like shit on them a little bit. I mean, I'm not going to post them on Instagram or anything, but like it's, you read one and you're like, all right, my day is a little bit. I don't, I don't disagree. I don't disagree one bit. I don't have anything against them, I would say.

No. So I'm all for Brett McCabe putting up inspirational quotes because not enough people really do that anymore. So every time I come across a Brett McCabe inspirational quote, I get inspired. He's a huge inspirational guy. He has a book, by the way, called Break Free from Suckville. And he thinks like everyone like essentially there's this thing that he calls Suckville. And it's about how you get out of it. And it's a lot of self-deprecation. Suckville. And like, I don't want to talk for him. I don't know what the fuck. I'm talking about. I have the book here.

I have it next to my, on my nightstand. I gaze through it from time to time. It scares me a little bit because it's like about like making yourself better. And that makes me nervous. And that is in fixing Frankie the first episode. Like I just don't know how to embark on a journey of trying to embedder myself,

my mental side of, I don't know. I just can't do it. But we're working. That's what he's there for. That's what he's there for. He's the nicest guy of all time. He's actually going to be in Boston,

possibly going to be one of our. our special guest. Like we may just throw him up on the stage and just see if he can, you know, help me just in front of 900 people or whatever it's going to be. Maybe we'll just like put a, oh, what we should do? We should get one of those actual therapists chairs where I sit on my back and he's behind me. Yeah, I lay down with a fucking cigarette. We turn off all the lights and it's just like you guys.

You guys have a therapy session out there. It'd be kind of nice. All right. Tell me why you touch your peeing so much. It's like, oh, fuck. Okay, I stop jerking off. I have a story to tell you guys. Okay.

Well, it's a nice story. It's a feel good story. Some guy comes up to me at the bar yesterday and I'm fucking annihilated, but I remember it. I remember the story. It's good. He's like, dude, I want to tell you that I'm a huge fan of you. And he was sweating all over the place. He was fucking, oh my God, this is, this is going to be a scene.

Like mincy? Little mincy actor? He had long hair. He was kind of, I don't know. He was like Larry Fleet with long hair. Okay. That's who he was. Love Larry Fleet.

Yeah, and he was just like, yeah, I'm fucking huge fan. He was huge. I'm like, all right, dude, thank you so much. He's like, I listen to every show. He's like, thank you so much. He goes, I want to tell you why I listen to every single show. I'm like, oh, shit, this is like starting to turn to his story. He goes, it's 20.

He literally told it like this. He goes, it's 2019. I'm like, holy shit. He's like, and me and my buddies drove to go to the PGA at Beth Page. And it's all we thought about, you know, it was like we wanted to do it. We couldn't get tickets. We couldn't get enough money to get together to get enough tickets. So we thought, all right, we'll scout tickets outside the gates.

We'll figure out a way to get it. And we have to go in. It's fucking PGA championship at Beth Paid. And he's like, one guy was, like, giving us tickets and they were fake or they were charging way too much money. He basically got them to the front gate. And it didn't work out. And like, it was such a tease of like, you thought you were going to get in.

The moment was finally happening and they couldn't get in. One guy got in. and then like he couldn't get in. So he was like, this is the worst day of my life. Like finally got here and I can't get into the gate. I couldn't buy a ticket. Tickets are sold out. This guy fucked me.

My friend went in. And he goes, some guy from behind sees that I'm like struggling to get in and just walks up and just goes, here's your ticket. Let's go have a day. And he goes, and that guy was your dad, Frankie. And I was like, what? Wow. He's like, yeah, he had just come in.

And apparently you got him some extra tickets and my mom couldn't make it. And he noticed that I was, like, struggling outside the gates of the PJ Championship. He took me in. He walked me through. And he said, not only did he do that, but he, like, walked the whole golf course with him, got him a drink, walked up to the clubhouse. He was like, I'm going to see Frankie at the, at the, at the driver. And he goes, and he was, like, not that big of a fan of Barcelona to start. Like, didn't really know what it was.

This kid. He's like, I kind of know what four plays. I know what Dave is. The whole thing. Ever since then has listened to every single show because now he has a connection to, like, one of our family members and, like, the story of getting into the PGA. He's like, he had the best day of his fucking life. And I was just like, that's the coolest shit of all time.

Like, thank you so much for telling me that because that just made me feel good at the bar. I was almost like crying. I'm like, my dad's a fucking good. I'd always know my dad's a good guy. But like that was such a never, I didn't even know he did that. So it's like nice to hear a story. Well, Mr. Borrelli is now like the angel of this guy's PGA experience. Yes, exactly.

He appears behind him with, you know, a halo around his head and a fucking ticket for this guy. It was awesome. It was so cool. And in real time, I probably got mad at my dad back. You're giving people tickets under our name? Like, I'm going to get in trouble. They're giving us free tickets to. But he's just like, let's go.

Everyone enjoy. Every single person outside the gates come in. Mr. Borrelli, the best. Fuck. I couldn't believe this guy was telling me this. Music's blasting. I'm like, what was that? He's like, no, dude, I've had a great story.

I'm like, I can't pee over here, dude. Can you just like get this thing going? And then I loved it. I literally hugged the guy. I'm like, thank you so much for telling me that. That's really, really nice. Yeah. Your dad is an extremely kind, fine, fine man.

Yeah, that was good. Thank you. That was good. All right. We ready to throw it to nade shot, boys? Yeah. I think so. I'm trying to golf today, and I'm trying to,

I'm trying to score a really, really, really good round of golf today. I don't know if that's one shot at a time, Frankie. You know what I'm doing, guys? I'm striking the ball really well. I'm piping balls off the tee. Really? And I'm not hitting greens anymore. I'm like pushing balls out left.

I think this new swing. I'm coming way too like out to end or like I'm coming too over the top where I'm definitely squaring up the club face. But for some reason, they're fading and I'm not playing the fade. So like yesterday or two days ago we played and I'm hitting dead center drives and I'm 135 yards out. I have a pitching wedge in my hand or a nine iron depending on, usually it's been a nine iron. And I'm trying to swing slow and I'm pushing balls to the left of the cart path. Not even like in the rough. I'm just like, and it sounds good.

Divit comes up, go straight up. So what am I doing? I'm not listening. And this is something we worked about with Brett McKay, but I'm not like listening to the field goals or something. Have you guys ever struggled with like trusting your new ball flight? Like I'm not trusting this fade. I'm like still shooting at pins and they're just, they're missing.

Are you confident that your alignment is bad? Like you should have somebody, you should line up like you feel like you're lining up. and then have somebody take a picture from behind and see where you're actually like. Oh, that's a good point. Maybe. Yeah. Because you might be, because then the only reason I say that is because I have been there before

because forever I played a hook forever. Remember I used to draw the shit out of the golf ball? Now I just hit a little bit more straight. And so I still have a big tendency to aim at the right side of the green. And I'll hit really good shots that just fucking go right in the green all the time. It's very frustrated. So what I learned is like you can't really tell if you're actually coming through and your club face is open or if you're hitting it straight,

but your alignment is just shitty unless you know where you're aligned. So another thing you can do is like take your stance, stand like you're about to hit, and then just put your club down at your feet, like with your butt end pointing towards the target, and then just walk away from it and see where the club is pointing. And if that thing's pointing way left to the green, then it's just your alignment.

If it's not, then you probably just need to square up the club face because if it sounds like you're taking a nice divot, I bet your path and everything else, that was pretty fucking good. You're probably just for whatever is you're not, you're not closing the face when you get to impact. Dude, it's been infuriating. And then,

so I'm definitely going to do the alignment thing today. Then you start to like feel, all right, maybe I need to change my swing. Like come more inside. And then you're doing that mid round. You don't want that. And it's like now I have multiple swings.

And the thing that I worked on with Brett McKay, which I'm just doing everything that we did in the first episode. Like I have to just fucking be better. Like you have to do this stuff on the range. Like when I'm on the range, you have to have the swing. you're going to have on the golf course. You can't, like, work things at.

Like, you have to, like, approach each practice shot in the range as if it's a real golf shot. There's a difference between warming up, just getting your body loose, where I would, like, and I told Trent this, this is something we really learned in episode one of fixing Frankie. The first couple swings on a range, you can just, like, hazzle them and top them and duff them. It's just about getting your back loose and your legs. Like, he was telling me, like, pros will do that. Just go up there and just fucking swing. Like, when they're on their regular ranges at home, they don't fucking care where the ball is going.

And then it's like reset, go to the bag, clean off the club, and now it's go time. Process, hit a golf shot. There's a big difference between step one and step two. And what I was doing yesterday or two days ago before I went on this course was that I was trying to find different ball flights. And like, I was like, oh, if I take them more inside, it goes more straight. So now I'm like hitting different types of swings a million times on the range and then went out there and couldn't fucking find it green because it's like there was a million

different thoughts. Oh, which one should this be? Should I take it more inside this time? Maybe it'll go right. Or should I just swing normally and then I'll push it left. It was fucking infuriating. It shouldn't be that hard. We've gotten to the point where we can hit golf shots.

This part, like decision making should be the easiest fucking part. We figured out how to get the ball in the air relatively. And it's amazing how often people fuck up the decision making. It's crazy. And the four strategy and thinking your air on the course. Remember how eye opening we were for Harry Higgs when he walked us through that? I mean, that was one hole of that man walking us through just like core strategy. And we were blown away.

And we've played tens of thousands of holes of golf. Just think. Actually, for the second episode, so we're going to hold on to these. We're going to let Breaking 90 just fucking run its course at this point. Breaking 90 is an absolute fucking powerhouse that just needs to go out unaffected by anything else. I'm not worrying about my thing. I need to be there for my guy, Trent. when we do release this, episode two is going to be Scott Fawcett's coming down to Long Island,

and we're going to do decade golf and see if that decision-making works. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But I really thought he was interesting on our podcast, and I think he's a madman, and I think everything that's going to come out of this video will be super interesting, yet, like, it'll be controversial the way he talks about, like, decision-making on the golf course. We've heard him talk about it, where you're like, that's just, he thinks he's figured out the game of golf, and I'm going to call him out on some things, because, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm going to get frustrated when he tells me, like, hit it into a bunker and he's going to have all the stats.

Like, that's going to drive me fucking crazy. But that'll be interesting. But, yeah, I think we can all, we all can be better when it comes to decision making. And that is why people like Brett McCabe exist. You're like, why do these fucking guys need these fucking PhDs to talk to people and figure out it and get to the, around the golf course? And fucking Brett McCabe just figures out how to tell you what to do and it makes your game so much better. It makes no sense. It does.

It really, really does. So fucking important on the golf course. I'm going to go loaded out. shots we can execute the shots you're gonna go let that fade you've been hitting that fit you hit that fade super consistent super consistent i know i just got to do it today what i just got to do it today yeah show me that alignment i want to see i want to see you know put that club down take a picture one or the other make sure you gotta figure out if you're fucking way lined up to the left or if it's just your club face uh all right nade shots coming up by now you've probably heard all the cryptocurrency uh

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A little more fingery, I feel like it was there. Yeah, it was a good clap. It was okay. I never understood golf claps growing up. I'm like, how do they make this sound so good on television? And then I figured it out. Like, it's really about the right angle of cupping your hands. It's a good cup.

Yeah. Frankie's a good cup or he, uh, whenever we tap, he pops down. Dap, I like to have a high percentage of popping. I feel like that's not so much on you, but it's also the duality of whoever's coming into. You've got to be in sync. We did one with J.J. Watt the other day, we played a video. We did a video. We played a par three course of them and we popped and it echoed off the mountains. You might have caused it. Earthquake.

It was crazy. J.J. Watt gives you, you dab him up. Your bones are shaking. His bicep. His forearm was bigger than both my biceps put the, The video is embarrassing for me. Don't wonder he's on the Super Max. Yeah. He's a giant man. Yeah.

Unbelievable huge. So we got Nate shot here from 100 Thieves. This is a first for us. Never had a, well, I mean, you're kind of a first of your kind from what I understand in terms of your success, gaming, growing out a massive streaming franchise, 100 Thieves. You were talking earlier and you're a Barstool fan, Barstool guy. you were saying Barstow was a little bit of your inspiration. Big Stoley.

That's incredible. Yeah, I mean, I love everything you guys do. I don't think the intention was for us to be like a media company 100th first started. It started as an apparel brand sort of diverted back into esports where my career started. And then content is just something that I did to differentiate myself from other professional players because not a lot of people were doing it. Like Twitch didn't exist when I started streaming.

And then as we started building company, hired more people, signed creators, just like content needs to be number one priority at all times. Did your job life, professional life, if you will, change a lot from being performance-based in terms of how good you are at games to performance-based terms of how entertaining you are? I don't, it actually probably made my job a lot easier because it was really hard to balance playing professionally because you have obligation to like three other people practicing every day. There wasn't a lot of money in it at that time. So it was like content was the only way for you to actually put some money in your pocket. We didn't have salaries. Weren't getting paid. We weren't doing

brand deals. Huge prize pools for winning tournaments. I mean, there is like dime a dozen. It just didn't happen often. And so like the only way that you really made money was like off YouTube ad revenue. And then when they introduced streaming like subscriptions where you pay $4.99 a month to watch your favorite streamer, that's when it was it was like a real opportunity to make some money. So Switching to content full-time probably made my life a lot easier. It just wasn't as stressful. The YouTube world's fascinating. Mr. Beast and what all he's done and the science behind it.

We've talked about it a lot because we got more into YouTube the last couple of years and just how the proper thumbnail, how if you title a video a certain way, it'll take off with the algorithm. I hate it. It was actually my favorite part about 100 Thieves is that I just didn't have to. My entire day and mood and happiness would be derivative of what my analytics. looks look like on the back end. Yeah. And it was either the best of your life or the worst.

And you feel like, oh, I can do this for the rest of my life. The next day, get the worst performing video in the first hour. You're like, okay, I'm going back to work McDonald's. So it can drive you crazy, but what we've boiled it down to because the thumbnail and the title, like we, you can get in the weeds with that. Good content gets views. If it's good content, it's going to give views. And that's kind of the, that's been our motto for a long time.

Now, we do the thumbnail thing and the title thing. But if you just put out a good product. people will find it and they will watch it. That's kind of been our thing. I agree with that. Yeah. 100%. It just sucks when you have, like you're really proud of the video and the time that you put into it, the effort. And then if you don't have the right title or thumbnail, it doesn't make as many waves as you would have thought it would. I completely agree that if you build it, they will come. If you build the right way, they will come. But unfortunately

with YouTube and how oversaturated it is now, it's got to be really stand out, very different, very unique, or it's going to just get buried. I mentioned McDonald's, and, you know, you're maybe 35 times bigger than us, but I think it would be crazy if you didn't tell anyone that doesn't know exactly your story. I found it to be extremely interesting on the course today. We played with you, by the way, at the Barso Classic. Had a great day. Had a great day. It was really fun. A blast. I appreciate you guys. Have me out. Friends of life. I hope so. We are. We're friends for life. But, dude, the way you were talking about it, it's so inspirational. And you're just, I kept telling Trent, like, this guy is just one of the more impressive people I've ever met in my entire life. And the way they, Jesus. Yeah, dude, I'm not, I'm not kidding. Truly. Celebrate. Just like to be able to build something and not only just build yourself,

but then you're building a lifestyle brand, which I know, Dave, that's how he did everything with Barstle. He was obsessed with Rob Deere Deck and Jimmy Buffett because they were able to take their talent and then make a lifestyle brand around it. Now you've got the shirts, you've got the hats. You've got all the creators. So could you just give us that little elevator pitch that you were given or give the people what you gave to us?

Yeah, I'll try to keep it short. Because I don't, first of all, I appreciate all those kind things that you just said. It's a podcast. You know long if you want. So I attribute a lot of things that happen with 100 thieves in my career to timing. Like if I would have tried to do what I did 12 years ago, I don't think it would have worked out because everybody in their mother is streaming and making content around video games.

But I just hit the right wave where Call Duty as a franchise was still fairly new and hadn't caught on yet as like the It game to play. And I wasn't very athletic growing up, but I had an older brother who was, you know, Everybody in my family is over six foot tall. I'm 5'10. So I got the shorter end of the stick. My brother was always really good at sports, and I wasn't.

But the only thing I could really beat him at was video games. So it kind of became my outlet of what I wanted to do or how I can get as competitive as I wanted to be. And so I started playing Halo 2 until my eyes were bleeding every single day. I fell in love with it, like the ranked aspect of it. Your favorite map? What's your favorite map? Favorite Halo 2 map of all time is probably, oh, man, that's tough. I really like turf and I really like lockout

But essential is dope because you get to Super jump on top of big tower You play team doubles Get like a three kill lead super jump real quick Go up top that can't kill you Kind of shithead in that From that perspective Yeah it was

But yeah I was playing a lot of video games And I watched SportsCenter on repeat From like 7 a.m. until 11 a.m. All, you know, every single day during the summer I'm like, well I want to show up people How good I am a video game It's sort of like top 10 So I just started uploading clips to YouTube

Got a capture card which didn't really exist that prevalently. Started uploading, and it started catch on. More call duty tiles came out. The game became more popular. I was on one of the best teams at the time. So it was just like a snowball that just kept rolling and rolling and rolling, right place, right time. And that's really where my career started, like, making videos on YouTube and then playing professionally at these big tournaments.

We won an event in 2011. It was like the biggest prize pool there ever was a million dollars. First place got 400,000 split between four people. My mom thought I was playing too many video games, so she made me go get a job. I had to go to Dean's office when I was 15, worked at McDonald's for four years, won that event. Four years. Four years.

Won that event. Took the $100,000 on top of the savings that I had. Moved out of my parents' house, and that's when Twitch really became a thing. Jesus. So it was right place, right time. What did your mom say when you came home with $100,000? They didn't believe me because it took, like, the check, like four months to show up. Like, it's in the mail.

It's in the mail. Kanye West literally performed on stage. that after we won. And I'm like, I'm like showing a picture his face timed them when I was there. You're getting crushed by a flyer.

Yeah, I'm getting smoked. They didn't believe me. And then the check showed up for $93,000. And I'm like, hey, we got to go to Washington Mutual and open up bank account, second one.

So yeah, it's just good timing. Gosh. And then so you do your own thing, right? For how many years was it just nade shot, like Twitch,

your own entity? You're trying to build your brand as much as possible. So it started in 2009. I was part of a team until 2014 called Optic Gaming. They're one of the bigger teams still nowadays. One of my best friends still runs the company. But again, we weren't getting paid salaries.

We did a couple brand deals finally here or there. But I just felt like I was leaving a lot of money on the table by being a part of a team where I wanted to move to L.A., had some lifestyle changes. I retired from competing. So I came out, sort of did like the quintessential vlogging every single day. you know, Casey and Istatt and it worked out really well built an audience that went

far beyond gaming. So started making videos about shit that I love golf was doing in like 2015 like I told you made a couple logs cars, sneakers. Almost put us out of business. He was starting to golf. He didn't start a golf brand in 2015 and like the guy was going to start with couldn't commit to like an everyday thing and like he just would have like dominated that

whole space. We Nancy character maybe took him out. But yeah, I just started making videos about other things that weren't gaming And so I did that for about four or five years. Then I got really lonely. I mean, content creation when it's dictated by your analytics performance, just gets very stressful. And I wasn't leaving the house.

It's just not a good place. It's cold and lonely. It's kind of a shallow world. You're like being judged by views and likes. Absolutely. So I just want to start something that was really bigger than Nate Chah because I made that when I was like 16. And I wasn't having fun making videos every day anymore. So I just want to start something that was bigger than me that could hopefully withstand.

the test of time and that's where 100 thieves originated. Gosh. There's someone in your world that you look up to or is your kind of idol or inspiration in what you do? I would say I'd pull from like a lot of different people. You know, like Mr. Beast, I

wouldn't say it's an inspiration, but I respect him so much more than I respect myself his addiction to his craft. Right. Yeah. I mean, we went, spent a bunch of time with him. It's like his brain 90% of his thought process is just around his business. And I just don't have the fire in that way.

So I'm like, oh, I got to tip the cab. He's very good at what he does. You're like, I just want to have a truly chill out, man. Yeah, I mean, in some ways. Casey, obviously, just the way that he stylized his videos and made vlogging really cool and unique compared to all the other fluff in the industry was really amazing. Dr. Disrespect is like a big one for me just because everybody wants to know to become a streamer and doctor disrespect literally flipped the industry on its head you're going to

find a way by being and creating something that's so unique from everybody else so i would say those probably like my big three off the rip if i had to give you a knee jerk reaction a hundred these is that what 200 employees now something like that yeah we're over 200 employees now that's fucking crazy man that for anyone doesn't like i feel like you're telling this story and no one if you don't know your story you don't realize how fucking big this is like if you're not in that gaming world or you're not like understanding what how big this part of our lives is now like this is our generation of business now like you're you're the big dog i'm too i'm your age and like you're the big dog of the stuff that i grew up with you know what i mean you're far more impressive than frankly

yeah so it's like like for our age group of just growing up playing video games like you guys are the pros now it's hard for people to accept i feel like older people have you found that to be a struggle of like trying to get whether it be like validation or something from another group of people. Yeah. Are you okay with just your fans, your... People like to bag on Fortnite, but it was honestly a really big turning point for the Gen Z group of kids grown up because it, like, showed parents that everybody is

doing this and it's okay if your kids are doing this. Right. And like the elevator pitch that used to talk about or you were asking about earlier, when we first started raising capital to fund 100 Thieves, the way we explained it to these old heads that have all this money and they need to invent. invested somewhere. We basically told him like, look, gaming is only going to become more intuitive and only going to come more part of your life every single day. Kids nowadays are growing up with it. And the kids that are growing up with it today, they're going to be our

star athletes and our music and film. Like the biggest name is entertainment. They all love gaming. So it's just, it's a matter of time before culture is just bleeding together. Yeah. Like gaming used to be this closeted, you're in your basement, eating Doritos amount dude and you're a fucking loser. nerd and now if you don't play video games you're the outcast it's crazy and it's only going to become more prevalent in my opinion with kids growing up nowadays so that was really like our thesis where we want to be

the biggest brand in gaming even if you're not a hardcore e-sports fan in somewhere or another like the culture of gaming is going to touch you through 100 thieves yeah and I think you know for me personally I love gaming love watching you guys on Twitch and YouTube I've just all over it but I noticed like my dad knows that the Knicks have a neat an east team or like an esports team or and the islanders have an e-sports team and like people keep up with

that they watch the matches now like being able to blend real life hardcore sports people and like these older dudes that like just want to watch sports and then they see oh wait there's this like this is the new generation doing crazy shit on you know virtual side it's really cool the way that it's all starting to blend together right now yeah i i i don't ever like want to say or expect gaming to like you know dwarf traditional sports i love traditional sports i watch the B. A playoffs every single year. I watch every major for golf. I watch playoff hockey, baseball. I mean, you name it. I love traditional sports. Like gaming is just complimentary. Yeah, totally. It doesn't need to be like divisive where e-sports versus traditional sports or

is this player or an athlete compared to Tiger Woods. Yeah, like all this shit is just people for to debate and just talk about dumb shit. Like gaming is just independently amazing in its own right. Right. And what you're finding is that there's an audience for almost anything. Like it doesn't, like you don't have to. take like we need the NFL fans. We need them to become e-sports fans. It's like there's enough people out there. That's like everything has become so fractured with the way that the media is is now. Like if it's good, people will find it and you'll have enough of an audience where you can make a living and make an impact. Like that's what everybody's finding out.

100%. I think you hit the nail on the head. I mean, it's just trying to be inclusive as possible. It's like it's funny too. Even on Twitch nowadays, which is like a video game platform, the biggest category now is just chatting. Like there's, there's quite, literally something for everybody on these websites and in modern day, just digital culture. And gaming is, I hope, I hope it's going to be a major part of everything that we do in the future. You got some rivals that you like hate? We have like exterior rivals where you want to beat them on stage. But at the end of day, like tides raise all ships.

Right. You want your company to be as valuable as possible and you're not going to get there by being like the one man army that does everything really well. I think there's a bunch of teams that do great things. And I want them to do better. And we need to do better as well. Because every single year, Forbes articles come out about valuations, how much, how valuable each team is. Shit really doesn't matter. Like, there's never been a major exit in e-sports where a team is sold and has, like, made

profitability. It's like one or two teams that are profitable. But we could have been profitable two years ago, but we decided to invest and get bigger. Right. I actually saw Dave talk about this with like venture money. Yep. And it's tough. Like we had to raise capital because of the time that we got into gaming.

Like if we would have started with Optic back in the day, we could have ran that business and built like a really, really strong, profitable, healthy business. But since the landscape changed a lot and I came into everything late with 100thes, we had to raise capital. Like you can't afford salaries for these players and all these creators without it. So I want everybody to win. The tides raise all ships.

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like coming up who are like 13 years old that are playing Fortnite and call duty and Valorne all day they're so good and they will say the wildest shit

and I'm 30 years old now or almost 30 I still want to beat the shit out of these kids. If I get teabagged one time, I'm full tilt. And I'm coming for everything. And I'll get shit on and be disappointed. So that's just the way it goes.

Tilting and trolling works 100%. Yeah, I was playing FIFA one time, which I saw their discontinuing the name and whatever they're changing the name. But I was just playing FIFA one time. I'd play on lines sometimes where I should get bored for totally meaningless games. But there's just one kid one time. He was just lighting me up.

And every time he would score it be like, where I'm the old guy that's getting beat by this young kid. and I just sit in my room like this motherfucker. Oh man. Match against him like five games in a row. He just killed me every time. And I mean, I wanted to murder somebody.

Yeah. Oh, it gets the blood pressure up. Oh, controllers have been broken. Yeah, a lot of control. So for 100 days,

what's the, what are we seeing for the future? Like, where do you want to take this thing? What is the sky the limit at this point? Man, I just want to keep growing. You know,

we got over 200 employees now. So making sure that the business is healthy is really important. So that we can make sure we can write these paychecks. and keep the machine moving oiled up and get the gears running. I want to extend beyond gaming. We just did this golf drop that we talked a lot about today. I got the polo on right now. It was sort of like a passion project because I fell in love with golf as I moved out to L.A.

Because I got to play it more and wasn't competing every day. And I grew up playing. I was awful. But I started to fall in love with it as I got older. And so doing things like this where we get to, again, bleed culture together. where, you know, if you're on the golf course, I'm sure you're going home playing Xbox. If you're 18 years old, you've got nothing else to do. So there's a lot of intersection there.

So I just want to keep molding together all the things that I love and then all the things that are employees love that may seem beneficial for 100 thieves in the future. I mean, it's really like, again, what Barstle does. I mean, it started around sports and you guys grown far beyond that, but you still are really good at what your core business is. Golf and gaming, too, are similar in that. It's sort of an equalizer for people that just like to compete. against other people and really aren't going to, right?

Like you don't have, you know, high school sports anymore. You don't have college. You're, like, if you graduated from all that, you're not in the NFL. So you're looking to compete day in and day out. I think that's why a lot of people find golf in, like, their 20s. Yeah. A lot of people, like, get really into gaming. It's a, it's a platform and a medium in which you can continuously compete forever.

Competition is everything. And it's, like, drives you. Yeah. Yeah. So we're just going to keep, you know, putting rubber to the road. and we got a lot of new ventures launching as well. I mean, we acquired a keyboard company this past year. It's called High Ground.

Motos look better up here. You know, if you go to Best Buy and you try to buy a keyboard or a mouse, it's just black and white. It's like six brands that really dominate the space. And what these guys do is graphic keyboards so that you can really have more expression around what you love. They just did an attack on time, which is an anime collaboration where you have these characters

that are quite literally printed out on the keys of the keyboard. Oh. So in a lot of ways, I compare it to like what Beatsby Dre was for Apple, where there's not a lot of differentiation in the product and the innovation. I mean, it's going to get better over time. And our keyboards still even to this day might not meet like the 0.001% in terms of performance. But these are two kids that are entrepreneurs that started out of their apartment two years ago. And now we have full blown like resources. They went from two employees at 25 in the last year.

So it's only going to get better. we want to try to get a little bit of the market share of, like, keyboards and all the peripherals beyond that. Like kids express themselves a little more than just the black and white. We got some new ventures launching this year. We're just announced that we're making our own video game. So we're just trying to, you know, make some bets and try a lot of things just beyond e-sports. What's the video game going to be? Are you allowed to talk about it?

When's this going to air? Right now. Next week? Next week. I can't blow the lid. Okay. On the 4-play golf podcast, the biggest video game news of the year is going to release. It's good. With all the things we're talking about, I think people are going to be pretty excited.

Awesome. Okay. Okay. It's not a golf game, but. Is it weird for you being in charge of, you know, hiring processes and all that kind of stuff now? You know, I've got a great partner. My guy, John, I met him four and a half years ago. He's like Wharton Princeton, like, Wharton Business School, Princeton. He ran companies, built an indie game studio himself, worked at EA and Exxon.

I met him through. my buddy Blake Robbins, who's a venture capitalist. He's like 26, 27 years old. This guy just lives and breathes the internet. I mean, he's like first generation raised by the internet. So this was like a matchmaker? Smartest guy I've ever knew. It's funny how it all panned out.

I'll keep it short, but this kid was a fan of mine, and he was DM me over and over and over about like, hey, I want to have a conversation. I want to talk about like how I can help you build a real business. I'm like, who the fuck is this guy? Yeah. I go to his profile. He's got Nest, Google, and SpaceX in his Twitter.

Twitter profile. I'm like, this guy's a bullshitter. I mean, this kid's that day over 19. So finally, after sending like a million DMs, he's like, yo, listen, Dan Gilbert wants to invest in an e-sports company. We're going to the NBA Finals versus the Warriors. And I want to help you build a pitch deck for Dan because I really believe that you can build one of the biggest teams in the entire world. I'm like, all right, fuck it. There's no way this guy's bullshit now. Flies me out in San Francisco. We'd go to like game six in like 2016. And from there on, it was just like, let's go. So he introduced me to a lot of people. Again, right place, right time.

I mean, I'm definitely not a business savant. I went to community college and working at McDonald's. I'm obviously a lot more confident in my business chops nowadays. But we've got like 12 people on our executive team that really manage a lot of the hiring process. I interview people for the content team and people for the marketing team and e-sports for sure. But I'm not in the trenches every single day managing every single hire we make. for like content hires. She gives me the chills, by the way. Community college, fucking McDonald's. It's so comparable to just all these American success stories. Frank, you're gas. I mean, I'm not. I'm bricked up. We talked about fucking Dave Portnoy all day today because I mean, he's an inspiration for all of us at this point. But like he did the same thing. Like he found his niche and he grew it and he found talent and he like made it a lifestyle brand. You're doing the same. It is very similar. You found your lane. It's a it's the virtual side of things. And now you're bringing it to like real lifestyle side of things. It's fucking. nuts. We met Dave once. He came to the office

and I was trying not to let him know how big of a fan I was because I wanted to respect me and somewhere or another. Like I didn't want to like fall over on his feet like, hey man. But Barstall, again, I told you guys at the beginning, I'm sure. I'm a big fan of Dave. He would respect the story though. You would respect the show. I mean,

fuck. You know, again, a lot of ways like content and the way that you guys build fandom and like what you guys have done with golfing for for Barstall and everything that you do beyond that you guys do such a great job of building a community and making everybody feel a part of it and it's just like my north star and i point out a lot of things that you guys do that we should be doing as well adopting it you do and i was saying you do um one of the things that i love is

you bring the audience in by talking to every camera guy joe here yeah fucking second day on the job third day on the job so i'm my third day out here yeah fucking there's so much joe's second or third day no it's just like third day with the camera okay i was like jesus there's a little oozy vert me that When the third of the month hits every single day, these Twitter creatures will look to it's only my third day out here. It's like May the Fourth be with you. Yeah, yeah. Shut the fuck up. But you talk to him behind the camera.

So like when you're watching your videos, you feel like, all right, like I know these guys. It's not just I'm out here to be filmed because I'm the funniest person on the planet. And Dave has been the best at that. And I was saying even when I was 15, 16 years old watching Barstool, I wanted to know more about the Hanks, the Fidelbergs, the gases, when they were getting in trouble. they had a mistake with the burgers at McDonald's and Burger King when they were doing the blindfold test. I want to know more about the people around them than him sometimes. And I feel like you're building that with 100thies, which makes it so much more relatable than anything else. Yeah, man, I appreciate that again.

Again, you just gas me and I love it. No, I really do appreciate it. I think you have to dinner. We're going to go get sushi in that. 100%. I can't eat sushi. What's going on with you and sushi? I just don't like fish, man.

Picky eater Midwest. never had, I mean, I'm not really, you do kind of eat like a garbage can You were telling us, I mean, you had a cement mixer Like all the time Would you have today? You had a fucking McGrittles, yeah And then you said like you just crushed like Chick-fil-A

Well, I had to eat this morning because I get hangary on the golf course If I don't get my blood sugar up Yeah But I met my girl, we've been dating out for two and a half year She cooks every night, so it's not as bad as you'd think It used to be a lot worse She cooked healthy? Yeah

Do like steak bowls Like homemade carnage pasta Do you help at all? You just kind of... No. No. That's her real house. She loves to cook.

Okay. Do you feel like an urge to be like around the kitchen while that's going on? Yeah. Beginning of COVID, I actually would wash dishes after. Nice. There you go. Gave that up. She gave that shit right up.

I don't even mean to make it sound any worse than it should, but like she's quintessential. She loves to be a lady. Yeah, yeah. She likes to cook. She likes clean. I haven't packed my suitcase in two and a half years. I love that. I don't think people know that about you.

that she packs all my laundry well she packs my suitcase she helps and pack out my shit yeah that's nice it's amazing it's the best feeling of all time she's truly my better half and not just because of those things but I appreciate it as like a man you know that she bears that responsibility

yeah so you tell me when it's ready when it's time for you to go you just grab a suitcase and you leave you don't have some input on she'll be like you have a trip tomorrow like you have to pack I said yeah and she'd lay everything out and just say you want this shirt yeah no problem Yeah.

phenomenal. She's in a, I've seen, like you've opened it up, and I've seen she's an immaculate packer. It's all rolled up. It's, yeah,

the T-shirts are rolled up in one corner. College shirts are fucking in the right corner. Sox. It's crazy. I'd rather that than not that. You know what I mean? You're like you and yours would get along with. Yeah,

exactly right. Yeah, you just bought a house. You just bought a house. Like, yeah. You guys are a little better than I am, but it's,

you guys are on a similar trajectory. One of these days. Frankie, you're a rock star. Thanks, I bet you could out earn me if you tried. No, thanks. I don't think I have that in me.

I don't have that in me. I don't know how you've done what you've done. Were you ever nervous to be at the forefront of a major business? Was that like ever- Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's terrifying. Can't imagine.

We come into the office. We did it all hands this last two weeks. And there's so many new faces. We hired like 75% of our workforce during COVID. We went from like 30 employees at 200. So I got so many people. I'm like, fuck. I act like an idiot.

idiot on the internet and hopefully these people respect me in some way or another but again I'm like the dumbest person in the room I got a lot of smart people helping me a lot of people give me credit but again I wouldn't be able to do it without all the great business-minded folks around me I know my community but they know business

you're paying mortgages kids schooling has ever make you fucking nervous dude I'm fucking terrified I'm so bad at real life he's got fucking 200 lives under his fucking belt why are you making me No, it's more impressive than it is anything. We got ahead of HR. She's phenomenal.

She's great. Are you ever just like in these meetings, just you ever have to stop people that are, you know, working for you and just be like, I don't know what you're talking about? Well, for any like finance business folks that start a company's big, big topic of discussion, which I make a joke around. Like Scooter Braun, for instance, is on our board. Okay. And him and I have a good back and forth because immediately we hit it off. Like I could tell I could joke around about them. But like our first couple board meetings when everything really started picking up

when we started raising a lot of money, it's like, what the fuck is EBITA? Like EBTA is basically like a balance of like money spent, revenue that's coming in, like your P&L. Like EBITA is like the biggest thing for board members and investors. And I'm like, what the fuck is EBTA? And can we please stop talking about it? Like I want to tell you guys how dope our call duty team is and how great these new videos are. And they're like, listen. just sit down and shut up for like 20 minutes

we'll get past all the boring stuff and we'll be good on my own Dave has a funny history with Scooter Braun remember during the whole caller daddy Yeah I saw I remember Caller Daddy breakup He's like oh Scooter Braun called Scooter Braun called

The whole thing's gotta be off That was fine You know as fucked up as they'd be great friends Oh I think they actually may have I don't remember where I landed I don't think it was as bad as when it first started Oh gruntman Yeah yeah yeah

Dave will tell you how it is you know i mean he's never going to succumb to any of that stick to his guns oh big that's him yeah big time yeah big time