Fore Play - By the local caddie, for the local caddie

Episode Date: February 14, 2019

In light of the Matt Kuchar / El Tucan story, we welcome more than a dozen local caddies to the show. We hear stories about Morgan Freeman, President Obama, and Scotty Pippin. We hear from loopers at Pinehurst, Medinah, Kiawah, Cabot, Olympia Fields and more. Perhaps our most unique show as we mix it up for hours with local caddies from all over!!!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/foreplaypod

Hey, 4Play listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Incredible unique show that we've got for you today. We got, first of all, Lurch, the famous Lurch is in. How we doing? Frankie is out. Frankie's out of town with Dave. They're in Florida.

I think they were on Bar Rescue. They're doing all kinds of fancy stuff. So, long story short, the butter knife is out. Lurch is in. The big Lurch is in. It's been great. Oh, it's been great. I've really loved having a lurch in here.

It's quite a refreshing show. So the reason that we say such a unique show, we did something this show that we've never done before. We opened up the phone lines to local caddies. You may have heard there's a story of the news, a golf story going around involving a local caddy and a, you know, a famous, well-accomplished professional golfer. And that just kind of got us thinking that as the common man show by the common golf, for the common golfer. We wanted to hear from people. We wanted to hear from the guys that do a lot of the grunt work,

that carry the bags, that rake the traps, that kind of have committed their lives to being involved in golf in the sense that they are caddies at local clubs. We got caddies from Medina to Sand Valley to Kiowa to Cabot, caddies that we've had before, and we kind of riff back and forth with them. We got awesome stories about Morgan Freeman, about Obama, about Scotty Pippin.

There's all kinds of good stuff in here. This was fantastic. We spoke to 16 different caddies. We got stories. It was just cool. It was very cool. It was unlike anything we've ever done before. It was much different than anything we've ever done before, but it was a lot of fun.

It was a good time. Yeah. We had some good laughs, and it's good to hear for the people. So I do want to say we put out this tweet. We got hundreds of emails from caddies, literally hundreds. I went through them, and I responded to a couple dozen and said, Here's the number call in. So here's the deal.

We're going to do this more often. We've got two shows to fill every single week. We're going to do stuff like this more often in the future. So if we did not get to you this time, keep your eyes peeled. And in the future, we're going to put out more notices. Hey, we're doing another show with the caddies or with superintendents or with maintenance folks or bad guys or PGA professionals, assistant pros, whatever. We want to hear from the common folk who kind of make the golf world tick go round. We should just do it one time do it with like a master's champions.

have them call in. We want all of the Masters champions to call in. It's not a bad idea. You know? It can't hurt. No. Can't hurt to try. Yeah.

We should. Masters week, we're going to try to do a power hour with Masters champions. So if you want a green jacket, email us, for a whole week straight. Nobody calls it. Just a whole week.

It's like, Jake, we got anything? No yet? Okay. Okay. We market this in any way? He's just going to call it. Just in studio for fucking ever.

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it's about a month old now, but it gained even more steam this week because El Tukin, who was his caddy, the story came out during the Sony Open, which Matt Kutcher won. That at Mayakoba, the Maikoba, the Mayakoba Classic in Mexico in the fall, Matt Kucher went down there. He wasn't originally planning on playing that event actually.

Kind of put it on the schedule late. His full-time caddy had a prior commitment so he couldn't make it. So Cooch employed a local caddy who caddies at the resort at the course to be on his bag for the week. Now, the way Coocher describes it, they had a deal in place. Hey, I'm going to give you three grand is basically what it's going to be. $3,000 for the week. He says, Matt Coucher says, and L2CAN agreed with this as well, that they were both in agreement.

That's what the deal is going to be. Kucher wins the tournament. He wins $1.3 million in the tournament. Now, the number that gets thrown around a lot is 10%. Like if you're a full-time caddy, usually your rates below 10%, but there are bonuses in place, and when the player wins a tournament, you get 10%.

Yep. Professionally trained caddies. Right, exactly. And that makes a ton of sense because they're full-time guys. They have to travel. They're on the road all the time. They are literally just your guy. They do everything for you on the range and this and that.

So it makes a lot of sense. That would be about $140,000. He got three was the original report. A lot of people were upset about that. And when the original report came out, we talked about it on the show, obviously, and we thought the story was going to die right there. We didn't know, we didn't think anybody was going to come forward with and sort of figure about how much money he actually made. And a lot of theories going around, okay?

The guys in Mexico. If he did get $100,000 or $1,000. whatever he may have gotten. Maybe they didn't want to go public with that. Right. Maybe this guy, and I can't remember who the former PGA Tour player was, who was putting the story out there, didn't have accurate information. Like, nobody really knew all of the details.

Now, Coutcher even at the time said it's a non-story. It wasn't 3,000. It wasn't 10%, but it was like more than that. Now. That's still true. That's a true statement. Now L2 can has come out. L2CHAN is pressing the envelope.

He's not letting me. this one die. No. Cooch was like, no, it will die. El Dukon's saying no. So. Well, we didn't know if he would come forward because, I mean, does this hurt his reputation as a caddy if you can't, like, keep it on the low, what you make?

I think so, right? I think it's like a little unwritten rule. Like, you don't go talking about your arrangement and how much people paid you. I agree. But if at a $3,000 level. Yeah. And the guy just made $1.4 million. I just think there's a little wiggle room there.

So here's what happened. Now he came out this week. He did an interview. And in that interview, he said that he reached out to Matt Coutcher's camp after he won the whole thing. And last month after it went public and said, I don't think that it's fair that I only got X amount, which was $5,000. Coocher gave him two grand more, gave him $5,000 total for the entire week. In cash. said that he reached out to the Couture Camp, which is Mark Steinberg,

and those guys that represent him, they came back and said, we'll offer you $15,000 more, making it $20,000 total. He said no. He said, I think that's not fair, said no to it, and then he's kind of doing this whole keep your own money type thing. See, that is so confused. Like, I don't know what are by L2Con.

Like, what's his end goal? That's the confusing. If you're turning down that 15,000, maybe it's a point of pride. But part of me thinks like, if I don't take the, if I don't take the 15,000, and this would be thinking 10 steps ahead, which I'm not sure he did, he'd be like, when I go, if I ever have to go public with this story, I and I, the five, saying I only got 5,000 is a, is a much bigger story than being like, yeah, even when they came back, I did accept the extra 15,000, so it ended up being 20,000.

5,000 looks like such a bad number in the media. it couldn't be it couldn't look worse like no one no one is on coocher's side here not a single person he's such like a family guy he's right he's we've just been fool we've been fool now is that the case now there's a couple things going on here obviously with huge huge when this story came out you are okay we'll get to that tennis player pig pong player too yeah he is a good racket sport you're big racquet sport guy you actually get into it one guy about paddle and then he just well people have to listen. He hates the story. You know, he didn't.

You'll have to listen, folks. It's a big caddy. A lot of good at caddy interviews. Very good stuff. He, so Coacher, uh, essentially, this guy, the caddy, like Cootcher's getting, there's other stories coming out too, like Cooch, oh, actually Cooch is known as not being a good tipper in the locker of this, that. Coacher today, after the L2 can thing came out, he's now given an interview and said, uh, he's defending it. He's saying, I think, that was fully fair. This is the arrangement that we had. We met earlier in the week. On Sunday, I thought he was completely fine with it after I won. During the week, he was completely fine with it, and then I'm finding out afterwards that he's going to the media,

this and that. There's also another story that this caddy al-2can at the beginning of the week on Monday was caddying for a different player, an unnamed player on the PGA tour for the event, like a professional playing in that event that Coutcher ended up winning. He got into a verbal dispute with that player his first day and got fired by that player before getting employed by Coocher later in the week. So there's just some context. Great context. It sounds like L.2 can might be, you know, a little bit going on there.

All right. So I don't know about that part, but this first part where Coutre says I thought we had an agreement, this was going to be the amount of money. And when I paid him at the end of the week, it didn't seem like he was offended by it. But you can't, if you're Coocher, if you're a human being, you can't walk away from winning 1.3 million, give a guy 5,000, and then walk away and be like, that all went great. That was a great scenario. Everybody came out on top. So, now, having said everything that we've said, it's just an unbelievably dumb move. Horrible. Like, yes, it's not right either. Like,

you could just totally, like, the guy deserves more of that money. You made $1.3, $1.4 million, but also, it's just dumb. Like, it's so. Your reputation, Matt Cooter's reputation is done. He'll never not be known as the cheap guy ever. 100%. No matter what. Any context where you're talking about him, if you're doing a master's draft with your buddies and somebody takes Cocher, there's going to be little quips about, oh, you're going for the cheap skate. Right.

Forever. That's just what he's going to be. So the reason, yes, it's obviously he's, it's a scummy move. It's shitty. You'd love to see it for that caddies. A local guy's got a family. It'd be really cool if he made 50K. or whatever that number may be.

But even beyond that, it's just dumb, dude. It's just so stupid. We actually get into this a little bit later in the episode with a certain NBA basketball player who played for the Chicago Bulls may or may not have been number 33, where you just pay these people and it'll be fine. Like, there's no good scenario

where you cheap out on these people because it's going to eventually come to light and you're just going to have that reputation forever. You're right. Coutcher will forever be known as the guy. forever. Damage is done. It's literally, it's just dumb.

Because, I mean, if you go to a course, member guests, let's say the bag fee is $75 standard and you win the member guest. Do you tip them 75? No. You give them, 800 bucks or whatever you give them. But you give them way more than that. But I agree with your thought. It's just dumb. Like, what is the point?

Like, yes, you had your agreement. I understand that. Maybe L2 guns, like a total wild card, which it sounds like he is. But even at the end of the day, I did. put all that in because context is important. But in this, all that stuff, it actually doesn't even matter. Nope. Like the guy, you just got to get more.

So Coutcher is saying, from what I'm reading, that the agreement was he'll pay him $1,000 if he misses the cut, $2,000 if he made the cut, $3,000 if he had a top 20,000 if he had a top 10. The extra $1,000 was a thank you. Was a thank you. It was a great week. That extra thousand being the bonus that you came up with in your brain. is so incomprehensibly low. Like, it just doesn't even make sense. If you're going to give the guy a bonus for winning, it can't be $1,000.

So good question. What is your number? So he just won $1.4 million. A caddy fee professional, $140,000. If you heard Kooch Payton X, what are you like? That's fine. That's fair. 30.

Okay. I think it should be higher than 30. I think, but I think if you had heard 30, nobody would have an issue with that. I agree. I think even if you creep up into the double-digit numbers, people are like that. Like $10,000 is a lot of money to, like everyone. Not that $3,000 or $5,000 is it.

But you start hearing a guy won this amount, how much do you think a guy should be compensated for a caddy he just brought on this week? $10,000, $30,000, $50,000, whatever. All those numbers, people are going to think this is a non-story. $3,000, $5,000, it's a fucking story. 10's a little low for me still. I think, I agree. I agree. I agree.

I think $25. As soon as you hit that, like $25, that's fine. That seems like a lot of money. Yeah. That's like, holy shit, that's a good amount of money. Yeah. I think realistically, he should have, like, if it were me, I'd probably be thinking in, like, the 60, 70 range. And I think that would take care of a lot.

Because realistically, you're probably thinking, all right, what does he actually deserve, like, maybe around the 30, 40, somewhere around that? Like, because it's, that's going to be pretty, like, life-changing form or at least take care of him for several years, make him comfortable. And he was on the bag. Like, he probably, if you really, you know, a person. People were making the argument, oh, he could have just carried his own bag and still won the tournament. But even if the guy, even if you say in your brain he gave, you know, one reading of the wind over the course of the week that saved Cochre a half a shot, like that could be a couple hundred thousand dollars difference right there. So I think the guy does deserve, what's call it, 30,000, and then just because of all the reasons I listed earlier where you're a fucking rich guy already and you don't ever want to be known as the cheap guy, you make it 60 or 70. And this would be a big story regardless of who had happened to.

but Matt Coocher, people, yeah, he's the fun dad, he has the Skechers commercials, but it's mostly a blank slate in terms of what you know about him, and now this just fills that hole in a completely negative way. You're right. You add some color to him finally, and it's like the worst that you could have. Right. It's not like, he could have flipped this, given him, whatever, $100,000. People would be like, that's the Matt Coocher.

I know. I knew he would do that. What a great guy. 5,000, people just hate you now. Give him 50, set up a college fund for kids. 100%. Like, that would have been holistic and nice. Five grand.

Just put more black in that black hole. Yes. It's tough. So in light of this story, in honor of this story, coincidentally, but also in honor of this story, we decided to have more than a dozen caddies, local caddies, who once again are on the grind and all of that. So that is going to come up in a few minutes. The other thing I would like to mention is that Tiger Woods got his first hole in one since 1990. I believe they said. Maybe it was 1997.

He got his first hole in one within the last couple weeks playing with Freddie couples. And it was literally his first hole in one, I think they said, since like the late 90s. That's stunning. I mean, that's stunning. Isn't that just an unbelievable fact? Right now, in this room at this moment, I don't believe that. You're calling bullshit. I am.

This says Tiger Woods got his first hole in one in two decades. cite your source This is from Tiger Woods I mean this is He and Freddie couple were telling this story During their press conferences this week At the Just looking at the

Well this article in particular Is from USA Today It's a statement from Tiger Woods But it was all over Unfortunately that's a pretty ironclad source Yep No that's almost full proof Unless he's lying

Which would be no reason to No that'd be a bummer If he was just blatantly lying about it So it says that was this Woods had been stuck at 19 hole-in-ones, holes-in-one, since he reached that mark in the now-defunct international in Colorado in 1998.

That was his third ace in the PGA tour in his many years. His first came at the PGA tour start as a pro, and his first PGA tour start as a pro in the 1996, greater Milwaukee over. That's right, you got a whole-on-one-one his first time. The other one he obviously has is the 16th, the waste management. Yep. Of course he has a hole-in-one on 16.

That's unbelievable. But anyways, first whole on one since that in that long. Isn't that crazy? That's one of the craziest things I've heard ever. I'm not sure if I still believe it. I don't either. Even though Tiger Woods told it to us. That's a shocker to me.

You guys aren't buying, you know? You're not going to buy it. We kind of have to. Tiger and Freddie are just lying? No, no, no, no. I'm not going to go that far. It's just one of those things that you hear it. You're like, that just doesn't make sense.

So what do you think it happened? Then he got one like at Iowa worth 10 years ago. No. It just refuses to acknowledge it. I'm going to stay on. record? I don't believe it. That's just going to say the take, you got to stick with that. That's it. I refuse to fold.

So that's what I'm asking. What do you think actually happened then? I don't know. Maybe it seems more dramatic if, or this conversation we're having right now, it wouldn't happen if we're like, yeah, but he just got one like eight years ago. But now he's like, oh, 20 years ago, people are talking. That's the only angle I can see. But it just doesn't make sense. I don't hate it. You know? If he was like, wow, it's going to get the people buzzing. I would tell him I haven't gotten a whole on one.

20 years. What is he? What is he? Like, Tiger's back. What is he? Right. Right. When was he last?

That's good. Something just clicked in that little brain there. He's like, that's it. That's it. People are now like, I mean, he's never been more back. He's using it as like an external confidence source. Yes. Because everyone's going to be like, oh shit, Tyre heard about that whole one.

First time in 20 years. We're back. We're back. And reality he gets one like every couple months. Yeah. He got one two weeks ago. I'm not buying it, but I don't hate that. I don't hate that angle.

Speaking of Tiger Woods, Riviera, the Genesis Open, big event. We've got the super, super group that they did last year as well, Tiger, Rory, and Justin Thomas, who we had on this very show just about a month ago. Not a big deal. Next up, we have got all the loopers. This is wildly different than anything we've done, like I said. This is us connecting with the people, with the listeners, with the guys who do all the grunt work, carry the bag, all that good stuff. So here is rapid fire phone power hour style for a couple hours.

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Couldn't ask for a better summer job, that's for sure. First question, what's your take on the Matt Coochre L2Canton thing? Sorry? So Matt Coocher is a little situation with this caddy. He had the fill-in caddy who was a local caddy where he only gave him like $5,000 despite the fact that Coocher made like $1.3 million. A lot of people were mad at him. What are your thoughts?

Yeah, certainly I agree. After winning him over a mill, I think there can be a little bit more. there for a caddy, especially a local one. You know, we could, I'm sure he did plenty to help matter on the course, show him some tips and some tricks that, you know, that you only pick up from working and being out there every day, twice a day.

Yeah, how, like, how important at Olympia Fields are you and your course knowledge to guests who come by and have never played before? Yeah, absolutely. So there's a, we get a bunch of guests from all over, obviously, that come out and play some big names And we definitely always- Who's the biggest name you've at?

Biggest name I've can't for, I can't eat for Scotty Pippin last summer. That's a very big name. That's a hell of a name. That's a big name, yeah. How was he? For him, he's good, nice guy, but there is a tip,

a nickname surrounding him, no tip and Pippin, and I can't confirm. Wow, no way, really. No, I mean, he'll go out to eat downtown in Chicago, like Michael Dorden's restaurants and, like, not tips of waiter and everything. No tip and pippin. He is a nice guy.

I can't say that. I had him. I caddies for Stephen Stamcoast and a big group of NHL players about two years ago. So I had some fun out there with some big names, that's for sure. Can you, like, are there signs where you could tell if a guy's going to be cheap or not? You know, if he's coming up, obviously, he's got the name. You know, if there's a group and say there's four caddies, four members or four guests, You always try to go for the, obviously, the better clubs, you know, the nicer, newer bag.

You know, those are, those tend to be the higher. We've learned some tricks after doing it a couple of years. I like that. That's great. What's the worst loop you've ever had? Worst loop. Oh, man, had to be four people who, you can tell they really didn't play golf. They showed up with, like, you know, the old Wilson sets and didn't really play golf.

sponsor, but they're not sponsors anymore, so we're good. It's high-loist guys now. Yeah, so you could tell that, you know, they admitted to playing golf maybe once or twice before, but they won the round in some auction or some, I don't know, they won it somehow. They didn't pay for it, but you could tell that they hadn't been up to, you know, country club golf or they hadn't been educated on treating caddies. They're a little nervous going into that one.

What's the, like, where do you rank Olympia Fields in the Chicago area? Is it the best course out there? Website looks unbelievable. I believe so, yeah. I've played, obviously, Olympia multiple times. I've been there. This will be six years. I've played Medina number three.

I've played a couple courses around Chicagoland area that are considered elite, but maybe it's the bias in me, but Olympia Fields north is nothing like it. How many tracks are at Olympia Fields? Two, 36 total holes. And then Medina has like five? Medina's got, yeah, I think it's three or four. Okay, and then what, like Cog Hill? Is that another one that's got a bunch?

Cog Hills out there, yeah, I've been there a time or two. They've got, I think they've got two courses. Well, it's a hell of an area. What's your, what's the most, like, money you've seen somebody lose on the golf course? Oh, man, a couple thousand. There's some members out there that play for some real big money. Are there guys out there who play for a lot of money who stink? Oh, yeah.

straight. Oh, yeah, it's a confidence thing. But they've got the confidence to bet it, but they don't have the skill to back it up. That's for sure. You guys aren't going to be playing golf for quite a while out there, it feels like. I'd give it, yeah, probably March, April, wait for the ground to thaw out. All right, Ed, that's not bad. We appreciate you calling in, man.

Absolutely. It's an honor. If you guys, you guys ever find yourself in Chicago, I'd love to take you out. Done. Perfect. You know, I live to take you. cup those kinds of token offers. Oh, I'm sure you get plenty of them too.

All right, Ed. Thanks for calling it, man. Take it easy. Great to talk to you. See you, man. When we started doing this, I didn't think, at any point that I think we would get like Scotty Pippin Slander. That was incredible. Right away. No tip and Pippin. Have you guys heard that before? No. I knew that. Scotty Pippin comes from a very poor background. I remember, and there was some sort of contract situation when he played for the Bulls where they screwed him over big time. so he didn't make as much money as he should have during that big run of theirs.

Maybe that's part of the reason why he's no tip and pippin. But I will tell you, that is one of the greatest nicknames and that's just going to stick forever. That's the best nickname ever heard. No tip and pippin. He's like, nice guy. He just doesn't tip in everybody but pippin. It's a great nickname. Right.

The other seven billion of us, we're all good with it. Let's go to Devin. What's up, man? Hey, how's it going? Doing great. How are you? Good. Who we got in studio?

Just you in Trent? So we got, that's actually a really good question. We got myself, we got Trent, and then we got my roommate, Lurch, who I've talked about before, who's actually played the ocean course before. Oh, he has. Lurch, what did you think of it? It's a lovely spot. If you'll reveal that information.

Oh, that's a good question. Sorry, what was it? Yeah. What was the question? Yeah, what did you shoot if you'll reveal that. Ooh, Tuffy. So, little backstory. I played all right at Turtle.

So I'm at Turtle Point before we played Ocean Course. So we went down there today before. I shot an 84, I think. At turtle? Which is a pretty tough course, too, right? Pretty tough. Yeah, no, not you. I played all right.

However, that night, I love a good vodka drink. So I was just drinking kettle on the rocks straight. I think I've had about, my buddies estimate, no joke, and it sounds stupid to say, probably 17 double kettle on the rocks. And I was completely blacked out. I show up at the ocean course. the driving range just like it seems like it looks right at the sun so I hit one seven iron I had no idea where it went but I was like that's good enough for me I get to the T-box our caddy Chandler seemed like a great guy I was like talking about I know I know

yeah great too yep so I'm like let's push it back a little bit I top the first T shot eventually make par on the first hole I'm like right maybe we can work our way through this thing I didn't hit a good golf shot to maybe the 17th hole and I think I shot at 90 I'll check my handicap on that, but it was a total struggle. Lost a couple hundred bucks to my buddies. Great track, though. Tough one when you're completely blacked out and can't really move. Yeah, I mean, I've had guys out there that are, I've had one guy that was on shrooms one time.

I don't know why I picked that. How do you play? It's not the best place to be when you're at. Oh, terrible. I think he picked up on every hole. It was his bachelor party. He tells me on four key boxes. Like, if you haven't noticed, I'm sweating profusely.

I'm on shrooms right now. I was like, what? What's the earliest hole you've ever seen a guy just walk off the ocean course? I've never had anybody walk off. It's probably because it's a destination and it's a destination. I think if it's a local club, I can see that. Yep, makes sense. I've seen people quit at nine.

I've seen people quit at nine. Oh, all right. That's pretty, that's kind of tough. Yeah, I guess that's early. Yeah, because like if you're alert, if you remember you when you're coming back, you stop at that halfway house. And I've seen people just hand their caddy money and then go. right to the range. I think that's like usually the golf cart.

So then you, they pick you up with a golf cart. So you have to have the balls to say, like, I'm getting off the golf cart as we blow by to 10? Oh, yeah. That's unbelievable. What's the, what's like the worst blow up you've ever seen,

like a Sergio Garcia type blowup? I had one guy actually this past, last weekend or this, the weekend before. And it was just, it was rainy day, like miserable. He was visiting his mom from out of town. and he comes out and it was just, I mean, it was probably 50 to 45 degrees pouring rain for the first four holes. It's just me, him, and his mom, I'm carrying his bag.

He's playing all right. I mean, he's not a low handicapped. Is his mom playing or no? No, she's just walking with us. I guess she lives in a lot of hair or something. I know. It was miserable. He said I'm carrying his back.

What's the mom doing? Yeah, I know. So we're chatting it up the whole time and we fight. There's just force him in front of us the whole day. We wait on him on a couple holes, but this guy's pretty slow. So we finally get to, we finish 17. He surprisingly makes par. We get to 18 T-box.

I guess one of the guys, I guess the guys in front of us had a match, and one group conceded on 17 Green. And one of our guys was like, fuck this, I'm going to the bar. And so we get to 18 T-box, and they're like, oh, you want to play with us? And he just freezes. I mean, he might have made a 14 on a par four. I'm dead serious. I mean, he chunked every, he hit a good drive, chunked every single shot,

maybe hit it four feet every time like six putted i mean it was nuts oh these guys are just like who the fuck is this guy in front of your mom too forgot about the mom that's tough that was i always told the story before but when i played at carnusti i was the last guy to go off and i played by myself with a caddy and there's a foursome with me and they had two caddies so like a huge crew right in front of me and on the second hole which is a really hard hole that's the one kisner doubled and we made fun of before. Second hole,

they're like, it's like raining, windy, dog shit weather. I've played pretty good golf, but I come to the second hole, and they're all like halfway up to the fairway, and they step aside, and they wave me up. They're like, yeah,

why don't you play it through? Great, thanks. Pull out my driver, top it. Into the fescue, off the tee. I top it. Into the fescue, takes me like two to get out of there. It took me like 25 minutes to play the hole.

Oh, no. I think there's nothing, there's nothing more frightening. It's either that first tee shot with a bunch of randos, I mean, there's not the worst than 18, planned by yourself all day with no pressure, and then three guys just tossed into somebody's group.

So Ocean Course, isn't the rumor that they can stretch that thing to 8,000 yards now? Something like, I think 79, something like that, yeah. I mean, the tips, if you play the tournament tips, it's, I think, like the black keys. So it goes tournament, ocean, die, what's the, Carolina, die Kiowa Carolina Carolina is the Reds

So if you play the tournament which is the black I think it stretches to about It's like 77, 76 something like that I mean don't quote me you can look at the scorecard But there I mean there's some further keyboxes back That they use when the tournament's there Yeah Have you ever improved a guy's lie or like moved his ball

To like make him good? Oh the caddy kick Oh yeah The catty kick you know He knew Caddy kick yeah oh You gotta have that one in the bag right Yeah, if they top the first drive, don't they say, okay, the five-finger wedge and the caddy kick are your friend today. Oh, that's fantastic.

All right, Devin, I really appreciate the call, man. Yeah, anytime, guys. Glad to do this. Absolutely. Have a good one. Keep it up out there. All right, see you guys. Yep.

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It's unbelievable. It's so hard. And I was in such bad shape. I really thought the number was going to be higher, the second one. I can check. I don't know if it's still on my gym, but I'm happy to check. I was, I'm nervous. I don't really know.

But I think it was 97. If you don't want to check, you know nothing, we can just live with 97. Yeah, if you want to live at 97, it feels like you kind of want to. Yeah. We're more than happy to let that happen. That's off my gin, so I don't even,

I guess I would have to go online. Is that the way that you check? You better get that thing back on for you all in your matches next year. By the way, 17 double vodkas? You're a maniac. It was absolutely outrageous. We were playing golden. I've actually heard the other guys be like,

no, we think it was 17. Right, that's a conservative number. Which is an outrageous number. Well, you guys started drinking immediately after your turtle round? Immediately after. And I played great. We did like two nine-hole matches. We only had four guys.

So you play one guy at first nine. And I dummy both guys. I was like, this is great. And then I'm just like, there's no way we can lose because we did a point system. They had to win the front, the back, and the overall to win. I was like, there's just no way that's going to happen. Like, no matter what I do tonight, like these guys suck. Yeah.

And what happened? We lost the front, the back, and the overall. And we lost a couple hundred bucks. And yeah, I was drinking. vodka's at the same pace. They were having Bud Lights to the point where the bartender literally exclaimed to one of my buddies when he went to go buy another one with vodka.

She was like, he wants another one. Loud enough so everyone can hear. Just so everybody knows this is ridiculous. I love it. Let's go to Tyler. What's up, man? Hey, how's it going? We're doing great.

How are you? Good. Thanks for having me on. You're welcome. So where you catty out of him? Yeah, it's Spring Hill Golf Club. It's a suburb of Minneapolis. Why is that in Minnesota?

Again, I mean, you had a guy for Chicago on a few minutes ago? It doesn't feel like you guys are going to be playing golf for a long time. Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty young. I'm 20 years old. I'm also a student up at the University of Minnesota-Daloo. What are you studying? Business management. You putting some of that caddy money to your education?

Yeah, yeah, the tips of caddies definitely help, and it's a lot better than doing grounds crew and landscaping like a lot of my friends do for $15 an hour. How'd you get into looping? I got pretty lucky, really. I mean, I was cadding at the PPC Twin Cities doing the pro-ams for a while, and I just saw an application for Spring Hill on Indeed last year, and I really don't know. I guess I got lucky they were hiring at the right time because I wouldn't get that job again, I don't think. We got my boy, my roommate Lurch is here with us and Trent as well,

and Lurch just pulled up the website. Spring Hill looks beautiful. Yeah, it does. Oh, it's amazing. Like, it's so natural, the rolling hills, and Tom Vazio did a great job with it, with the evergreen forests around there and the maple trees in the fall. I mean, every hole is picture perfect, really.

How do you pronounce that town? Is that Wayzada? Wayzeta. Wayzeta. Wazeta. I don't know if you know how to say it, pal. That's a tongue twist. Yeah.

Like everything's pretty basic, 725 County Road. I was like, why are you asking me? Then you get to Wayzetta. Yeah, it can be a little confusing. It's the uppity part of town. Okay. Tyler, you got a great little Minnesota-Canadian blend accent. So good.

Oh, yeah. Trent's turned on. I love it. I love that accent. It reminds me of the TV show Fargo. I love that show. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Have you ever, are you familiar with like the caddy kick? You ever had to improve somebody's lie out there? Oh, of course. I mean, you've got members in the trees all the time and you've got to kick it. Somehow they find a perfect tree angle with a shot at the green every single time. They're in the trees, but us common golfers, we don't get any kicks like that. What's the worst blow-up you've ever seen in the course? The worst blow-up.

Yeah, like a guy just has. Sergio Garcia, a meltdown? I've seen some high scores, but I guess the biggest blowup I saw was between two golfers. They were in a match. It was a match play event for quite a bit of money. It wasn't a tournament or anything, but they were just playing. And the one guy, he got an embedded ball on this 15th hole.

We were probably 170 yards out, and he hit it into this bottleneck green and ball completely embedded in a fairway. And the other member just would not. let him take relief and he was pretty adamant about it and I mean the rules clearly say you get relief in the fairway and then they ended up getting up into each other's face and they're pretty older guys but man I thought they were going to throw some haymakers at each other was it clearly embedded or did it like kind of look was there any you could barely you'd stand over and you could barely see it it was wet rainy conditions so just a classic rules dispute went to the ground

were you double bagging or were you just what was that were you double bagging or what like were you in the other caddy just sitting there like oh you were by yourself as these guys went ahead yeah there's there's another caddy and then we had four people four members playing and but they ended up he ends up not taking relief and says all right whatever i'll beat just straight up right now at that point he's already two up in the match and somehow some way he chipped the ball in with that lie and so this day i don't know how it went in but he throws me the club he yells at the member he's like you know what fuck off i didn't need no relief and walk straight to the 17th hole or 16th hole without picking up the ball.

Jesus. Rules disputes get people going. All right, Tyler. We appreciate the call, man. Thanks a lot for calling in. Yeah, well, thank you for having me on. Have a good work. Keep up the good work this summer out there.

We'll do. All right. See you. See, pal. That really is my favorite accent. So friendly. Yeah. When you ask, like, what's the biggest blow you've ever seen?

I thought it was going to be, like, two people, like, barely looking at each other. Yeah. I didn't think we get a story like that. Better than like a Southern comfort kind of accent? You're on that? I think it reveals just like completely harmless people. Yes. Like I thought he was going to say,

oh, we had one time these two guys didn't talk for a single hole. Like that was going to be the whole fucking down. Like when I hear a Boston accent, I like a Boston accent. We work with a guy who's got a really thick one, but I also am a little scared by it. Because I've seen so many fight videos of Boston people.

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Fantastic. How are you? I'm good. So where are you caddying out of? I carry out of Pondhurst right now. That sounds fantastic. Yeah, man, it's a good time. Good time.

I've never been down there. Are we missing out? Oh, absolutely. You should ask your boy, Ryan Whitney. I caddied for him down there. Did you? Very interesting. Take this off line.

Wow. Was he mean to you? What's that? Was he mean to you? Yeah, he lost his shit on me on, I think it was the tent hole, went over the green. I told him, all right, let's just bump it into the hill, run it up there, and, of course, he couldn't do it. And so he just lost his mind, couldn't play the rest of the round, just was so far in his own head. It was unbelievable.

You hate to see that, Brendan. You don't deserve that. No, I mean, at first he wasn't getting upset at me, but then, like, two holes later, he'd hit a bad shot, and then he'd, like, come back to that shot on 10 and start yelling at me. Not necessarily yelling at me, but, like, he could tell he was pissed about my shot choice for him.

Sounds like he's kind of yelling at you. Man. That's a bummer. Which course was it number two? Of course, it's number two. How do you feel about the restoration project that that place has undergone in the last? What has it been now? Six, seven years?

Oh, actually, I just started here probably about a year ago. I moved up from Keele Island. I was getting down there, the two private courses there. So the number two, I mean, we get here all the time. It's one of the best courses in the country. My close personal friend, USGA, absolutely loves it. How good is that golf course? It is unbelievable.

I mean, greens are always pristine. Just, I mean, if you hit it on the line, it rolls on that line. I mean, there's no bumps on the green. It's awesome. How, like, would Frankie around those greens, would Frankie even be able to play the golf course? I mean, I would not give him a ledge. Not at all. I mean, I've had people out there, like,

two, three handicappers and I hand them putter, just because that's how tightly mowed everything is. And if there's nothing in your way, you might as well put it. Well, that's what... It works so well for Kimer, so... Yeah, I was going to say that's what Mark Khymer did. He won there by what?

Like nine shots or something crazy like that? Yeah, I think it was him and then one other person were under par for the whole tournament. It's amazing. What's the worst meltdown you've ever seen? Somebody just, like, lose their mind out there. You know, other than Ryan Whitney? Other than Whitney, who's, you know, berating Chinese.

Other than Whitney, there haven't been too many. Most people just get pissed off because their ball doesn't stay on the green. And so they're just bitching about the course and complaining that it's unfair for them. And it's like, well, like pros can't even hold the green sometimes. So what do you expect? What's like a tip? Like if somebody's going to book a trip to go to Pinehurst, what's like a little tip? that they need to know that might not know unless they talk to you?

Definitely they got the new cradle there. That's a fun spot. So I always tell people try and get to play that like either after one of their rounds during the day or try and get there like a day early. So you show up, relaxing, just it's a real chill round. They got music playing, drinks are flowing. It's a fun time. Yeah, that spot looks awesome.

I think it's Gil Hans, who also, he just redid, what, the fourth number four, two? Yeah, he just did redid number four, which that's also awesome. They're having, what is it, the U.S. Am later this year on two and four. I didn't realize they're doing number four as part of that, too. That's great. Yeah, yeah, it's two and four. I think they're going to have kind of the early rounds on four, and then the final. too.

Is there like a drink at Pinehurst that people got to try, like a Pinehurst specific kind of drink? There's a couple of beers in there. There's the Southern Pines Brewery that's a local beer that everybody usually gets. Sounds delicious. What you mean? Anything with vodka? Lurch here likes vodka a lot. A lot.

Blocke. I mean, there's always a transfusion. My man. Good answer. Really good answer. What's the weather like right now? Are people coming and doing trips right now? I think so.

I mean, it's been steady work. I mean, it's been... How many caddies you got there? Weather was. How many caddies are down there at Pinehurst across nine courses? If I would put a number on it, probably 120, 130. It's a lot of caddies. Yeah, I mean, well, we come in teams,

And so, like, whenever I show up, I see the same five, ten guys. So I don't know total how many we actually have. What do you mean you coming teams? Do you have a caddy team? Yeah, just because there's so much play going on. So, like, I have a report time at whatever, 7 o'clock. And so we come in and my group of guys come in. And so I see the same 10 guys for the whole season, basically.

Those are like your good buddies? Yeah, I mean, well, whenever I first moved there, I didn't know anybody. So now I've gotten to know a bunch of people, get out and play every afternoon. So a good group of guys there. You guys got a team name? We do not. But I feel like now I have to. Yeah.

You can't find a team name. Something to think about. Yeah, I think you've got to come up with a team name. What's like your activity to kill time in the caddy barn when you're waiting to go out? A lot of card games. TV's always on with sports, whatever golf is on, or listening to Sports Center and the BS that they say. Card games chipping around the caddyshack,

giving each other shit, you know, normal, normal stuff. Any wild stories you want to share from down there? Well, other than Ryan Whitney one, I don't really have. Which is a great story. Very important story. People need to be aware of that. Great point. Yeah.

All right, Brendan. Well, we appreciate it. If we get down to Pinehurst, which is actually on my list this year to do Pinehurst. I don't doubt it. No, you should. You should, man. Absolutely. I mean, not only the nine course at Pinehurst, there's Tobacco Road, Midponds.

There's... Tobacco Road, too. I love, like, wild quirky golf. I heard that place is just on steroids. Oh, yeah. It's unreal. There's another Mike Strance course, about like 30 minutes up the road called Tott Hill Farns. That's another good one.

Okay. Not as, like, it's very tame compared to the tobacco road, but it's the same setup where you've got to pick your shots, you know. Yeah, we're going to do, I'm already working in my head right now. I'm like booking a trip in my head as we talk about this. So we'll hit you up, don't you worry. Appreciate it. All right, Brendan. Thanks a lot for calling it, man.

we appreciate it. Yeah, thank you. See, man. See, yeah. Good intel on your guy, Ryan Whitney. That's a good start to a call. Yeah. You know, when he just gives you the straight up information about Whitney, I didn't know.

You know, he could have said he's the nicest guy in the world. I had no clue. Yeah. Also gives you what you want. He did? You know? Yeah. Well, I don't want to see caddies being treated poorly.

Why would I want that? That's exactly right. Brendan seemed like the nicest guy in the world. A little shot at Sports Center, too. I appreciate that. I watch Sports Center sometimes. It is BS on there. It's total BS on there.

It's fucking BS. So Lurch and I were cord cutters. We cut the cord, you know? Yeah. So I've got like my five channels now. Then I kind of just hit those that I decided to put on there. I put ESPN on for one of them. And I sat my part this past week.

I had to do anything. So I watched a couple like different versions of SportsCenter or whatnot. It's just complete BS. It's, they got nothing. You know what it is? It's BS. He nailed it. It was whatever BS they got on there.

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I would put it at 70%. You were walking pretty lurchy last night. It had a big day yesterday. I played a simulator golf. I can swing, fine. I actually played good golf. Yeah, he did. But there's certain.

Endurance is an issue? Yes. Yeah. It gets tired. Yeah. So, it's sore. No more cane, though, so that's good. Now I dropped the cane.

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I'm Luke? How's it going, Reg. Going well, man. How you doing? I'm doing well. So you're Medina, is that right? Yes, it is. We had a guy on 2019.

What's that? Poma 2019 BNW Championship. Coming up. That's pretty exciting stuff. You can have it there. Yeah. Big Dick Eldrick's going to be in town. Oh, yeah.

Can't wait to see him. So we had a guy on from Olympia Fields earlier saying that Olympia Fields is the best spot in Chicago. Do you disagree with that? Highly. I mean, we're on Tiger when his first, U.S. Open. Pebble Beach Oh my bad I need a

Not good candy Not good Not good Golf trivia But one of his first majors At Medina in 1999 No he did You're right

That's where he took down Sergio He did the old scissor kick out of the trees Mm-hmm Yeah You got plaque right there On number 7 261

Two irons Trens dying in our little conversation earlier. You just can't. It surprised me to Smitty on the radio earlier. But yeah, how hard was that shot that Sergio hit? Is that just like an unplayable shot? Got that Sergio hit or Tiger?

Isn't that where Sergio, like, ran and jumped up the fairway? Or was that somewhere else? Oh, there's one plaque of Sergio on number 16. Yeah, he was right in a tree stump. And blind shot, put it right on the green I think it was

190 and it was playing about 200, 2.10 depending on the wind. Were you around for the Ryder Cup meltdown? I was there, but I wasn't cadding yet. Gotcha. Yeah, that's just whenever I think

of Medina now, I think of that and I get really sad. Yeah, me too. Oh, that's great. What's like the worst explosion you've seen there? You've seen anybody go crazy on you? Yeah, I've seen, let's see, not on me, but I've seen guys shake shots and throw the clods at trees. Throw the clubs at trees? Yeah, like just with them.

Okay. Yeah, and then I saw it in an outing once. I threw, missed like a big putt, threw his putter right in the water on number 17. What do you do on 18? Great question. You had to borrow someone else's putter. It's illegal. Yep.

Don't want to be a rules guy here. Yeah, I'm not. What's, like, what celebrity, you caddy for any celebrities out there? I haven't, but Robbie Gold used to be a member there. Okay. But he doesn't come out as much anymore because he's on 49ers. True. Let's see.

Riggs know your big hockey guy, so Patty Kane usually comes out there once or twice a year. You want his bag? No, unfortunately. But there's a caddy room to buy us once he's there. Yeah, what's the caddy room say about Patty Kane? They love them. I mean, he won the Hawks of Stanley Cup in 2010, so try not to turn this into chicklets, though. It's fair.

I mean, I respect that. Here's a little tip for you. If you ever hear Scotty Pippin's coming, don't get on his bag because we heard from the Olympia Fields guy, they call him no tip and pippin. You hear any rumors? He doesn't feel like he believes you. He pretty much told you to have yourself. I'm trying to help you out. He's not going to give me any money, bro.

Okay. All right, I'll look out for that But MJ, he used to be a number there, Michael Jordan So he used to tip well Like $400 a loop At least Really? That's Trump chain

That's the reputation you want Right, that's just That's why going above and beyond When you have that much money, it's just worth it Because if you get the reputation as a cheap Cheap person, that's just hard to shake People don't respect you You just give the 400 bucks every time

means nothing to MJ, but his reputation is great. As long as he does an experience, like a big financial downturn. Then you're kind of pinched, and you've got to go out and golf and give this guy 400 bucks. Or it'd be tough to if you're the guy that's expected to give 400 bucks. Exactly. Then you went through a financial downturn around. Let me say. Here's 50 bucks.

Lurch, I don't know much about the sneaker game, but I think MJ is going to be just fine. No, I know. I'm just, point we'll take. Is there a cocktail, a specific drink or cocktail at Medina that we have to try if we ever get there? Um, let's see. The transfusions are unreal there. They go a little more of grapey, or do they go a little bit more on the, you know, like lighter splash on the grape?

Some places go pretty ham or ham on the grape. Um, they're a little bit more grapey. Okay, that's fine. Everyone's a little different. And then, yeah. And then there's. A member there, like, I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be name dropping or anything, but there's a drink called the Hunter Dog. I'm not sure what's in it, but all the members, they love it, so.

Interesting. Now, that's the kind of information I'm looking for. So if I go and order the Hunter Dog, they're going to know what to give me, and it's going to be delicious. Yes. It's great intel. What's the ingredients of it? Are you all right? He doesn't know.

He's not sure what's in it. No. unfortunately. You don't want to tell us or you just don't know? No, I just don't know. All right, Luke. I respect that. I actually respect somebody he doesn't know more than somebody who doesn't want to tell us.

Me too. All right, man. Well, we appreciate it. You got any other crazy stories from Medina you got to tell or is that it? Not really. I just can't wait to see Tiger when the 2019 BMW. 100% agree. Great to witness.

That's your prediction. You're calling he's going to win at Medina? Yeah. Official prediction, that's in. Boom. You nailed it. And then if you guys ever get a chance to come out for promo, I'd love to be on the bag for you guys.

I mean, you're our guy. If we go, we're requesting Luke. We're not playing unless we get Luke. All right. Love to hear it. All right, man. Thanks for calling in. We appreciate it.

All right. Thank you. Have a night night, guys. You too. Luke was saying. some very succinct answers. Luke went full Mr. Crabb meme when you said Pebble Beach, though. Full Mr. Crabmeam.

I forgot about that. He's right. You were just correct. And he just didn't know what to do. He was just correct. He was like, well, we're a tagging, what about? You were like, Pebble Beach. He's like, okay.

He did. Like, even a lot of the times we told him information or responded to one of these things, and he just said, okay. Yeah. Like I told him about Sky Piping and all that. I was like, yeah, make sure there's a little tip. Don't kidding me. He just goes, okay.

His tone's staying wildly consistent. Just anything. Not excitable. Digest it. Which I like. I bet he's a great caddy. Even when you dunked on him. Okay.

Yeah, totally. He's just like very even keel. Tip for you. Don't get on Scotty Pippins back. Okay. Okay. Like he didn't elaborate. Beyond MJ's back.

Yeah, no, MJ's back. 400 bucks. We're getting some good intel. Ryan Whitney, apparently, berates, catty. That's just, that's what. what we heard from a random guy in miners. No tip and pippin. M.J.

400 bucks a bag. Pretty good. That's strong. Yep. So we're getting some good intel. It's $200 a 9. Good math. That's true.

That's a great point. How many dollars a hole is that? That's going to be tough to do, but I could probably get there if you gave me a calculator. I'm going to say, you're more of a math guy than I am. I know. 20? That's a tough one. For whatever reason, I'm locked up on that one.

No, it's going to be over 20. 20 is $12. $12. $20. $22. You're $22. bucks. 22, 25. And yeah.

Something in there. For whatever reason, that math seems impossible. 400 divided by 18. That's what we're dealing with here. Yeah. Same as 200. 22.22. Very well done. Wow. Very well done, my friend. Three cents off. Blake, you there? Yeah. What's up, man? How are you doing? Good. How are you? Doing great. I got a question for you. What's 400 divided by 18? I had no clue. Yeah, we didn't either. We came. We came.

What is it, 22.50 or something. The reason we asked that, turns out Michael Jordan tips $400 per loop, and we were trying to figure out how much per hole that is. That's a nice hole. Jeez. Jeez. Anyway. You know what in response?

100%. But he just taking that with a, oh. Nice. He said, okay. This guy, that's the appropriate response. So, Blake, tell everybody where you're a caddy at. Mearfield Village in Dublin, Ohio. That place looks awesome.

Home of the Memorial. Oh, it's phenomenal. So that place... What did you say? Home of the Memorial. Absolutely. That place on TV looks like it has the best greens on the planet. They're phenomenal.

I mean, those greens are, they're diabolical. They will get you every time. Do you see guests out there just hit horrific pots the first couple holes? Yes. Yeah, there's been some bad ones. What, do you ever, since it's obviously an annual stop, a big stop on the PGA tour, do you get a decent amount of pros, tour pros that come through and try to play it? You know, every now and then we'll have a corporate event where there will be a tour pro that's, their sponsor that's out there.

but, I mean, as you would expect, like, a week or so before the tournament, a couple guys will start rolling in, but not really. How did you get involved there? How'd you start looping at Mearfield? Well, actually, yeah, I'm from there, and I play college golf at the University of Pikeville, the NAA school in eastern Kentucky, and, you know, I just called the caddy matty asked her and said, hey, are you looking for some caddies?

I got a, I'll be in town over the summer, and I play college golf. And he said, yeah, sure, just come and sign the paperwork. And I'm going on three years doing that now. And no complaints. It's a phenomenal job. How does it work, like, behind the scenes, are you, like, working your way up in the caddy rankings? Well, yeah, yeah.

You know, the first year, you really don't get that many, loops. So, um, yeah, you're like the weird new guy. Yeah, yeah. It's, uh, it's pretty intimidating starting off, actually. Like, I mean, you've got all these veteran caddies that, you know, they know what the hell they're doing. And here you are not knowing your ass from a hole in the ground.

What? How much, like, how much does the course change when it gets closer to term that week? Oh, it's like night and day. I mean. it's pretty hilarious the rough gets so long and these guys are i mean they're taking hacks at it with four irons and they're taking three or four swings and advancing the ball two feet it's i mean it's ridiculous just people normal people just literally can't and play it do what now like normal players normal amateurs just can't even play the golf course yeah yeah i mean it's crazy they just

shrug you off and you're like, hey, I know you're 205 out, but you have to hit a 60 degree wedge here? Yeah. Gouge something out into the fairway where you at least have a chance of getting your next shot on the green. All right, Blake. Hey, Blake, how do you think our bears are going to do against Shawnee State University tomorrow night?

Great question. Oh, I mean, hell, we're going to, how the hell do you know where Pikeville is? Worldwide Web. I keep, nope, I keep tabs on the Pikeville Bears. How are we going to do? We're 21 and 5. We're on a four-game win streak. We're doing great.

All right. Well, actually, if you look at the golf page, you'll see my picture right there. We're on it, my man. Yeah. Yeah, there you are. Junior, full bio. Not much in the bio. Yeah, your bio needs some work, Blake.

No, no. Well, I was talking about the win, but. Yeah. No, your bio could use a little bit of work. We'll send you some tips on what to put in the bio. Okay. Sounds good. All right.

Well, good luck to your school tomorrow night. All right, man. Yeah, go bears. Go bears. Thank you very much. All right, Blake. Take care, man. Thanks for calling him.

Cut him off right before. I think he was saying, yes, thank you. Yeah. Something like that. You'd assume. He got a couple, what do you say, yikes a couple times? Or he said, geez. Jeez.

We found out how much money Michael Jordan gives. He said, geez. Oh, yeah, he goes, geez. Yeah, he was excited. That place looks awesome. Yeah. Mirfield Village looks awesome I want to get there

All right This is a very special call This is a guy we know Dylan you there pal What's up rigs? Oh come on Buddy What's going on?

What's up boys How we doing? Not a whole lot Not a lot How's Canada Where the hell in Canada To go to school again Buddy I'm in Regina

Saskatchew In the middle of fucking nowhere Regina huh Is that how you say it Yeah buddy City runs with fun Yeah buddy Sounds like vagina

Yeah exactly No, we're like up the two hours north of North Dakota. Oh, really? Oh, wow. Yeah, no fucking nowhere, man. Holy shit. I even know that was like a real place. No, pretty much isn't.

Pretty much is. So, Dylan is our boy from Cabot. He was my caddy the entire time that we were at Cabot. Lurch, obviously, was there with me. We met, you know, it's kind of nostalgic talking to you because I miss that place. Yeah, right, it was sick. We had a fun trip, eh? Fun, fun time.

Oh, man. we had ourselves. Great trip. Best part it was when you're leaving, I said, do you know what I'm doing tomorrow? The exact same thing. He did chirp us. We were literally fucking in tears.

He had to go back to work like a bunch of losers. Well, I mean, now you're in school. Hey, how'd your midterm go? No, that's good, buddy. He's good. No worries there. What, aren't you, you're some crazy scientist or something?

Petro Inge. What? Yeah. Patrol, engineering. You think that's like common lingo? People know that? You got to get outside Regina. I don't know, man.

It is out here. You do. Do it. Get yourself. Who buy you a vacation, buddy? You got to get out of Regina, Regina. My whole job, my whole job is a vacation. That's a good point.

That's a good attitude, dad. I will say I'm looking at the map right now. You commuted a far, a really far way. Is that Lurch? What's up, buddy? How we doing, babe? ever seen a while I need some money, dude

I need you come back with some more money off here so yeah so Lurch just made a good point Dylan that you kind of like you relocated a long way and which is a wild move

because if you're gonna relocate that far why wouldn't you go somewhere sweet you're in fucking bumfuck north of North Dakota over here closest place that offered my program there's only two schools in Canada that offer it so what Petro Inge

Petro Eng Petro Enj Yeah, buddy. Where's the second place? Calgary. Oh, yeah, it is a little further. A little bit, but I mean, at least Calgary's like a real place. You're in Regina.

I know, I know, I know, I fuck that up. Dude, it's like 17. You might pick this. Relax. So when are you back to, when are you back to Nova Scotia? I go home for winter break on Friday. Then I'm done for the year, like, May 1st, I think. And then you're just going to, like, when does Cabot actually open up?

Like, middle of me. but like it's the weather so shitty the first two weeks like i'd only wait right around until june first you welcome back uh yeah i hope so after our trip last year i mean we don't know the jury still out no you were the best i will say that was some of the best caddies that i've ever got to experience between well all i've been boy napper who's just all time it was it was a fabulous time uh no all i've heard since like you guys left was because like it was a bunch of barrisal guys coming back. There's like, oh, are you the guy that like Riggs actually like?

I was like, I don't know, maybe. It's true. I had a reputation for a while where I didn't like caddies. Bad rep. We fixed you. We fixed you. I think so. And that was a function of, I think I had some bad caddies.

Yeah, well, fair enough, fair enough. Whereas I think Dylan, you're a very legitimate caddy. You guys had some heated moments in the 118 holes we played in. Oh, definitely. There was some times. I mean, just the envelope. Well, Dylan did make the worst call in the history. a cat.

Here we go. Let's do it. Dylan, tell some stories, my man. No, no, here's our ghost. Here's our goat.

They told some bullshit story last time. I'll set the record straight. Go off, King. I think it's like a buff. What do you eat on? On the rigs? Buck 50? 8 iron?

No, 9. Yeah. 40? 145, 150. Okay. So we got to both that. We're on two fairway at the quist,

for those of you played it. I throw grass. It goes forward. It's about a little bit uphill. I say play the number. Anyways, he hit it. Well, the wing was going the other way. But I threw the grass.

I checked. I was like, fucked it, whatever. He yelled up before, like, half a hole. And then we sailed it. Then we moved on. Then on nine, same hole. Hold on, no, no, no. Let's stay on two.

Because you've got to understand where that ball landed. You're like, you're leaving a very important part. The ball was a hundred yards short. A hundred. It literally needed to fly another hundred yards because it had to go uphill. It was a hundred yards short. Never seen a ball not closer. Lurch.

No, I mean, it wasn't close. I agree. So, hold on. Hold on. Before we move on from two, if we're in the same spot with the same win check that you give, do you give the same number?

With the same win check? No, I'd probably check the flag to you with a flag blow. That was a rookie mistake. It was like early in the morning. It was hung over at hell. No, that which is fine. We got over it, but.

No, it was a mistake. It was a mistake. But let's get to like. No, hold on. Let me ask you this, though. One more question on two. One more question on two, Dylan. All right, all right, all right.

You gave me, and I flushed it. I mean, it hit right at the flag. Dylan. No, it was my fault. I admit it. No, no, that's fine. But here's my question. Just to, I want to try to put this in context.

You gave, like, we hit a nine iron. What club do you think I should have actually hit? Oh, dear. Me, like seven, maybe a six. Right. It wasn't close. All right. So let's go to nine now.

Let me jump to nine. Nine goes in the same direction, right? but the flag's visible for number nine. Nine's a pair three, two is a power four that's elevated. Can't see the flag. Nine, I can see the flag. I throw grass again. It goes down, but the flag's going completely out of us.

You hit a pitching wedge from 110 to six feet. It made the puffer birdie, and I said, and then we were good after that. No, you're right. I made a hero call on nine. You guys left out of the first podcast, conveniently for me. Yeah, I probably got omitted from the first podcast. That's fair. Look.

Yeah. This is why we give you. the opportunity we're here we're here for you guys give me the chance to apply for you to set the record straight appreciate it no it was fun though the whole trip was a blast oh man we had we had an absolute scene what was um what was like the wake that we left at that place what was that like was how did the resort recover after we left because i felt like we were a fucking tornado well they had a restock and booze first of all that was step one and then uh after that i mean upper management we're just looking forward like trying to follow all your social media stuff

and the caddiv he just got right back on it man it's true you guys just go there's nothing to rough what like what else he's supposed to do what was your guys honest take of us when we first showed up to departure no i mean pretty much what i expected just a couple of booze bags you guys actually know i'll listen to this you guys did um well like literally cheer out super attached but like uh i thought rigs worked way higher than i thought he's going to do to be honest i appreciate that he did a lot he did a lot more shit than I thought of it was going to do. That's true. I thought he was going to drink his face off and just like forget he was up like there for like social media for a bit.

But he actually did a good job of that. I appreciate that. In a very Canadian way, he just called me lazy, but it was very nice. You're right. I didn't even think about that. He basically said like lurches a piece of shit. He didn't do anything the whole time. No, I'd say he's not attached, but like, not really.

He did some shit, but like, I had no expectations of lurch. I just fucking knew. I just met him. Fair. All right. You had to get some defensive, though. testy. Hey, what's our guy Napper up to?

He's still in school, dude, engineer, too. You're both fucking engineers? Same old, same hole, man. Holy Christ. I didn't know you're both engineers. Damn it. Does Napper always pull that move where he hides a bag of beer behind, like, the fourth hole at the cliffs? No, that was a special request.

He felt guilty about NAPA that day, so. Why don't you tell that whole story real quick? Well, day one. we showed up and you look at me so like cabot it's very rarely do we double bag mostly single bags especially for people with your kind of poll

on social media on social media they would like to have they would like to have you guys all single bag so for that feels good that felt that day you should uh caddies there's only three of us you look at me like why the hell is it three because you're so expected probably seeing most likely to

maybe sometimes four but you're like why is your three and I'm like oh man my ruby gets slept in we're trying to call I couldn't get a hold of him He just missed the whole first round And then after the first round I went to walk him up And then we went to your place for some like

In between round beers Oh yeah Palatine Oh it's lovely time Then day two in the In the morning He went stashed some beers for the boys on Like where his house is

It's right on hole four And that's where I live too I rent the room home He just staffed some beers out there whole 4 tea and the boys yeah we had some whiskey there too like it was it was fun that's great we got on it pretty we got on pretty early that day it's all right what's um what's your biggest fuck up you've ever had as a caddy whole two years definitely here's definitely here's just like to hear you like not even close what's your best moment is a caddy i hold on but just one more comment on that

my caddy sean and i were we were up by the green and hit two great balls hit a stung a hybrid Yeah, you played really well that round. And we were standing up on the green, and, like, we saw where the ball hit the apex and, like, where it needed to be. And there might be a football field difference where it needed to be and, like, where it did. And then you guys were, like, searching for it, but you didn't really have the balls to say, like, dude, that's way short. So because Sam was like, no, it's got to be up here. You said 150. Like, this is about the spot.

You should see me staring this thing down. And I was like, dude, it is well short of air. Your face was red. Oh, my God. It was all the time. What's that? What's that? What you went 0 for 5 on the 7th hole key shots there that week?

Ofer 5. You didn't get one in play. On the 17th? Seventh. That par 5? Oh, that's a tricky one. Yeah. No, no, no.

No, no. No, no. I was not Ofer. You were Ofer. We were joking about it. After you guys left, they were laughing about it. A couple too many vodka. I can't just say that every time.

What? Too many vodka. I mean, in this case, I thought I had a really good one on seven, one time. Not on that course. Thanks for your time. It's been great. Oh, hey, Riggs, best call I ever made. This is like, first year caddian, one of my first few rounds.

The boys are playing skims. I don't know how much. I'm not really paying attention. But they're playing carryovers, too. So ninth hole, winks. Like, I hit the shitty shot. It's like back, left, pins, front, center. So he's got like a 55 footer.

It slides like at least 15 feet. He doesn't see it. He's seen only about a foot and a break. Well, like, I've seen this put a hundred times. It goes at least 15. And I give him the line. He looks like, you know, fucking crazy. And he goes, man, are you sure kid?

This put's worth $4,000? And I'm like, Jesus Christ, man, four grand. That's like, like, that's me. Like, that's a ton of money. I'm just, I start freaking out. I'm just like, wait, am I just like a magic bit? Like, I just go through like, I'm like, no. I've seen it a hundred times.

Like, it's got to be right. It's got to be right. And we egg you for a bit. And he thought he was just like, Eric, like, screw it, man. Oh, let's go ahead. And he does, like, my line-ish, not a great putter. But he gets to, like, four inches. And he just gave him, like, the biggest fist pump.

You won four grand. Like, it's pretty good tip that day. Wow. That's nice. What did he tip you? That day. In the Coochard situation going on? Yeah.

Yeah, seriously, like, like, Canadian girls came out. Probably got like $500 that day, U.S. That's fantastic percentage. That round, that round, roughly. That's one of the Jordan gives. Yeah. Sorry? We found out Michael Jordan gives $400 a round.

What did he give you $500 Canadian? This was five for that, five U.S. for that round. That was my tip that round. Nice number. That's salad. Little tip. If Scotty Pippin ever comes up there, don't get his bag, they call him no tip and Pippin. Well, same with Tiger from one of here, right?

Let's not go there, Dylan. Jesus. That's not called for, buddy. That's on called for. Family show. It's a family show. All right. Hey, study hard.

Keep Petra Inja. Yep. Keep that up. In Regina. In Regina. All right. Hey. Later on.

Hope to see you soon. Hey, if anybody goes up to Cabot, make sure you request Dylan and his boy Napper. They're fantastic. I'll be better than I was for Rick. Guaranteed. Look, we played like 140 holes. You had one bad call. That's fine.

And, you know, we had a big night the night before. We had a big night every night, I think. That's true. I mean, but that night we were out until like five of the minute. Literally five of the minute. All right, Dylan. Thanks for calling him, buddy. Later on.

Oh, hey, Rick. Yeah. Imagine Frankie Burrelli trying to chip on those fescue grass. He literally. He's so fuck some Bermuda grass. What would he deal on fes? Dude, no joke, Dylan. He wouldn't hit a ball any fitter?

He would have to leave his wedges in America. He couldn't bring him up there. I know, but I'd pay, like, every time he's, I'd be, like, $50 to, like, hit a $60 here. Every shot. Dude, he'd be, I mean, he wouldn't be able to play the golf course. There's no chance. I know, but it'd be fun to watch, though. Oh, it'd be great to watch, especially you, like, snickering in the background, Adam.

Oh, yeah, of course. All right, Dill. Good luck at school. Study hard, buddy. Good on, boys. Yeah. Dillon. Dillons is a great.

Nice guy. I'll say they're all beauties. I can't remember our four. this guy's name. Sean was my guy. Then we had Sean, Dylan, napper. Do you remember the one?

Yeah, Napper. We call him Napper because he napped through the first round. Oh, that's not his usual nickname? No. He's just Napper. Hey, there's Napper, eh, boys? It's just like the only way we talked the entire time. He showed up.

He showed up at like our condo or villa or whatever. And we were like, who's this guy, Dylan? And he's like, this was supposed to be your caddy. And this is your catty. for the rest of the round. It was great, yeah, because we did. We played Cabot Cliffs in the morning. They were playing Cabot Links in the afternoon.

They got two courses. We did like, oh, let's get beers for two hours in between. In our villa brought all the caddies, and then there's random guys show up in street clothes. Like, no, that was supposed to be your caddy. Just nap through the whole round. Oh, okay. We'll call him napper.

Let's go to Chase. Chase, what's going on? Hey, how's it going? Good, man. How you doing? Good. So, little Nantucket, Caddy. Yeah, yep, I've been in Antarctica for five summers.

I heard that place is awesome. The Sanctity Head. Yeah, it's a very, very cool place. It's like, it's very hard to get on out there, isn't it? It is. I'm not exactly sure how Dave gets on. I think just because he's Dave, he gets on. He must know some kind of member, but it is pretty exclusive.

So what's the general rumor about Dave whenever he's out there? Um, so actually this, this past summer, the, the guys in camp, like, made him a pizza. So there's a chef, uh, down in camp. And, uh, she, like, especially, uh, so it's camp is between the 11th, 12th and 13th holes. So it's like where all the guys stay who caddy for the summer. So it's anyone between like 14 to 18 year olds. It's like a barracks? Like a dorm?

Yeah. Yeah. three kind of huts and it's like bunk style living. Gotcha. No way. I think I actually see it on the website. I'm looking at the 11th pole. It's off to the right hand side.

Yeah. Yeah, that's it. That's camp right there. That looks pretty sweet. It does. Yeah, it's a very cool deal. You guys just like, you guys, like party? I mean, it's kind of hard.

It was definitely different back in the day because I've heard all kinds of stories about these to like brand kids with seven irons and stuff but I mean it's kind of changed with the times now so there's not as much of that going on off you can't really get away with that anymore no so what you would just have a seven imprinted and branded on your ass or

something that's what I heard I heard they'd stick a seven iron and a fire and stick it on your ass and that's how you knew you were like an official brother I guess but this is just what he's heard it doesn't happen anymore no way totally

No, no, I don't have a seven on my ass. Who's, uh, no way to know. You get any big time celebrities that you've caddy for out there? Let's see. Morgan Freeman was there this past summer. Ooh, what was the M.O. on his golf game. So he plays one-handed because he doesn't have function, and I think it's his left hand. So he plays with just one hand, and I, he was out driving.

You know what's not well known. I think we just broke news. I would have heard the Morgan Freeman one-armed golfing by now, yes. I mean, I mean, he, no, I swear to God, look it up, he has one hand. What the fuck he's talking about? Is that real? I mean, dude, he's in, like, so many movies, and it looks like his hands are working. I googled Morgan Freeman Golf, and the first hit is Morgan Freeman, comma, one-handed golfer.

Yeah, that's it. Holy shit. It's actually on YouTube. If we can, I don't know. Yeah, we need to watch this. Yeah, right, and that stinks up. I'll just skip the ad. I've never heard that.

That's incredible. Wow. How's his game? Can he actually play one hand? I mean, I think you shot like an 89. Oh, my God. Morgan. Yeah.

What a stud. Yeah. Wow. That's awesome. What's, uh, oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm kind of watching it right now. Yeah, he's taking a couple practice swings.

Here he goes. He's just got one hand. Boom. That was amazing. Unbelievable. Crushed it. Morgan Freeman. Yeah, a nice guy from what your caddy buddies said.

Yeah. Yeah, a superb guy. I mean, it's funny because I walked by him and you can, like, hear his voice. Like, he quiets everyone around him just because of the way he talks. And it is crazy because I was, I don't know, probably a couple hundred feet away. And it's like thunder listening to this guy talk. That's so good to know that it's that good in real life because we make jokes about it. Yeah.

It has to be good. Wow. Is there a drink out there at Tech Day Head that we'd have to try if we played? Oh, let's see. Not one at Sankey that I know of, but I know the Crosswind's cooler at Crosswinds Airport, which is like the main airport there. I've heard good things about that. So I think that would be the one you'd have to try.

All right. That's good to know. Well, Chase, we unfortunately got a million caddies we've got to get to. So unless you have some unbelievable wild crazy story outside of the fact that Morgan Freeman, you broke news to us that he plays golf one hand. Which is an all-time. I mean, that's just an all-time call. I don't even know if you thought you were going to say that, but that was incredible.

I have one amazing story if you guys have time for it. Absolutely. So we do this thing called the caddy game. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it, but you give the other caddy in your group a word, and you have that hole to say the word in context to your member. So, like, it's kind of like a point system. Like you say the word, you get a point,

and then whoever has the most points after 18 holes wins like $10 or something. How do you come up with a word? Can it be anything, but like certain words have to make bigger points? It's like it kind of goes by who you caddy for. So like obviously you're not going to like anything too graphic. But mine was like kind of pushing the edge of what it was. So I was about 15 at the time. And this this kid Nugget, we used to call him Nugget.

He gave me the word cancels. He gave me the word cancels. And at the time I didn't know what it was because I was still pretty young. So I was like, how am I going to use a word that I don't know? So we're at the turn and I go down to get lunch and I ask the guys, what is it a canckel? And they explain it. So I'm like, all right, I got this one. So we get back up to the T-box on 10 and to this point, we played like a two and a half hour nine, which is ridiculous because they're pretty starting with pace of play.

So I'm like, you know what, guys? And I said this right to the member's face. I said, you know what? I know why they're playing so slow. And this businessman who's 40 years older than I am said, why is that, Chase? and I said this lady has some serious cancles. And he goes, that's my mother. And I was like, I didn't know what to say.

I think I went mute. And this kid Nugget is cracking up. I'm like, what is wrong with you? Like, I just insulted this guy's mother. And so me being the 15 year old, I say, no, the other lady. And he goes, that's my sister. Oh, jeez. So I'm like,

freaking out. I had no idea what to say. I'm like, this guy's going to get me fired. I'm going to get stiff with the tip. Like, I have no idea what's going to happen. And so we get down the fairway. He's like, I'm asking him if he wants a club. He just pulls it out of the bag, doesn't look at me. Like, he is not speaking to me. And so we get down to 11 by where the camp is. And he goes, you know, I'm just fucking with you, right? That's not my mom. Oh, thank God. Jesus. He had me so pinned about this, but I was, that's definitely the craziest thing that's come out. of camp for me. Man, I was going to say Nugget really was having himself the funniest day. He's probably ever experienced. Yeah, and he knew it wasn't his mom, too, so he was cracking himself. So everyone was in on it, but you. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough.

Tough place to be. Yeah, no, you don't want to be there. Thanks. All right, Chase. Man, that's crazy. Cankles is the word. That's a cool game. I like that game a lot.

Yeah. Also, I think pretty good job to you, too, in terms of how to use the word cancels. Yeah, you kind of figured that out. Yeah. Yeah. I figured it out. Problem solver. All right.

Your big problem solver. All right, Chase, good luck in the camp. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Thanks for calling him. They do that like in Super Troopers, though, and they do meow. Yep.

You're right. When they're like say meow. I was trying to think of something. Say meow five times during this when they pull that guy over. I was going to chirp him a little bit because he was like, yeah, we play this game called the catty game. Have you ever heard of it? It's like, that's the least descriptive thing I've ever heard. Could be anything.

Yeah, anything. Could be anything. learned a lot on that phone call. Caddy game. Morgan Freeman. Morgan Freeman is wild news. The fact that he just said that, like, everybody knows that. Nobody knows.

Yeah, he's like, Morgan's out there, you know, everybody's being quiet. He's golfing with one arm. It's like, what? Excuse me? What do you mean? He's golfing with one arm? That's stunning. How about Lurch goes?

No, I've seen him in movies. It looks like he has two hands. When he, uh, when he said, like, y'all's name, when he said, like, that's my mom, y'all's faces, lurch literally looks up like you just saw it goes. Yeah. way to spend. I didn't think that was coming at all. No.

I was thinking it was a happy ending because he's like, he nailed cancels. Yeah. I bet the guy was laughing. It's great. Guy goes, that's my mother. Jesus. When he said sister, though, I was like, this guy might be playing him a little bit. Yeah, that was terrible.

I was like, this is too much. Way to sniff that out. Thank you. All right. Let's power through the rest of these. Okay. We've got. Zach, what's going on?

Hey, what's going on? How are you doing, man? Doing all, doing well, how are you? Doing well, how are you? Doing great. Where are you loop at? So I loop at White... Tell us about that spot.

I've never been out there. Yeah, so it's just like $6,500 golf horse, Walter Travis, is like picking your spot and where to there. Sounds like you need a good caddy out there. Yeah, you definitely need a good caddy out there. How'd you get involved out there? Why when did you start caddying out there? So I've actually played golf my entire life.

I played college golf adult. That's kind of just... It's almost every caddy should just say that. Don't look up like if you guys... Right. Yeah. I mean, that's kind of a good way to find some credibility. What's you got, like, some crazy or wildest or best story from your day's caddian out there?

Yeah. The show of our club, it's basically, like, my guess. Like you're at Augusta. Like, the shots of all that win is end up making, like, it's ridiculous. And then, like, if I, and if I were to be the winning caddy, like, I would. Wow. So you made a lot of money won? Well, we didn't win.

That was a shitty point. The guy just kept fucking funny. You were going to leave that part out. That's a bummer. Yeah, I was going to leave me there. Oh, man. Well, hey, you'll always have that chip that the other guy hit. And the job.

Yeah, that was easily, like, even though the turn. Well, what a read by you? Yeah, I try to get a job like six. I love it. Well, golf, caddy and brings people together. We appreciate it, Zach. Exactly, man. All right, pal, thanks a lot for calling in.

All right, no problem. See you, ma'am. See you, ma'am. Tiger at 16 comparison. Yeah. He also said Sevy couldn't have made it. He said Sevy couldn't have made it. I miss that.

That is what he said. He snuck a few in there. Yep. He really did. He really wanted to leave that last part out. He really, we pressed him on that last part. It must have been a hell of a day.

Well, he's got to figure out a better way to finish that story. Yeah. Because he like just gives you kind of like a little dot, dot, dot. Well, he's like, wait. We kind of got to the bottom of it that they didn't end up winning. He finished a story and it was like, yeah, there was like 15 grand on the line. And then he said you would get three grand if you're the cadet. And we're like, that's you.

He's like, no. It's just not me. That's where you come in. Yeah, that's where, this is your part. He was phrasing it like, yeah, like you can win, but you could potentially win 15 grand. And we're like, well, so you did. Yeah. Well, no.

Also, if you just advanced the first playoff. If you have that story in your arsenal, just say you won three grand. Just say you got the three grand. Yeah, especially you're calling into a podcast. Years later. Dude, I won. I made three grand. We went crazy.

You guys like my best friend now. I got a job. Like, that's kind of high time. Totally fine. Nobody's going to look into it. Maybe do a little embellishing. Yeah. Jake, do we have, so obviously we have a bunch still on here outside of that. Do we still have people calling him?

All right, cool. We're going to rip through these. I'm going to now do rapid fire. I'm going to tell people they have 60 seconds. Smart. Okay. I feel like we've been here for two hours. It's 930.

90 minutes. So Jake just said we've been going for 90 minutes. How many we got left? That's, okay. I mean, we're a show for the people. That's true. Yep. This is a common man show.

Should we game plan what we should ask them to try to keep? keep this rapid fire 60 seconds. We really want to do that? I'm going to tell them that you have 60 seconds. Go. Song and dance. Yeah. So, yeah.

Okay. How does that sound? So, yeah, then we have, there's eight minutes then. Yeah, I mean, if I tell them they have 60 seconds, we'll listen to me that call goes three or four minutes. True. Great. So you multiply that by eight. We're probably here for another half hour.

Right. How does that feel? Let's do it. All right. I have a plan. Jack from Ridgewood. What's up, man? You're getting a little bit unlucky because we had, we have had a million caddies already.

We're trying to make sure we get to everybody. because we're for the people, so you have like 60 seconds. All good. Cool. Love that attitude. Yes, sir. You're live. Awesome.

Well, thanks for having me on. You're welcome. I just wanted to say, first of all, we have a caddy. We practice for the caddy combine over at Bridgewood, and we have nobody come to face us yet. We've sent out invitations to other clubs. Whoa. Whoa, whoa, what's the caddy combine? fine. Okay. So not the traditional things you think about. Raking time, you know, running around the

course with the bags, timing that. It's all about skill, you know, kind of like laser to eyes, shooting distances, quick times. We're all in on that over at Ridgewood, practice a lot. And I think everyone's scared. We got a bunch of alphas over at Ridgewood. And seriously, I don't know why nobody has come to face us, but we are open to invitations, and we will face them. Does anybody else even know about this? Yeah, one club. And I think they were- Those motherfuckers.

Those guys don't have the balls to come face the Ridgewood boys. Pussies. Yeah. Where's this other club? Is it at least in New Jersey or to have to travel not? Yeah. Yeah. And, I mean, me personally, I'm kind of a scrappy looper, not the most physically fit, but I would come in maybe in the raking.

area of the combine. So you're an awesome raker. I'm a great raker. Like, my bunkers, wow, they're beautiful. They're like, people have to tell me, Jack, come on, you know, you're slowing us down, but I'd really take pride. Let me ask you this. Where's the average person get it wrong raking a bunker?

I feel like I probably don't rake it that great. I would say, you know, you really, some people just drag it straight out. You know, you really just got to get a nice, it's all in the wrist rotation. Seriously, I think it's very undervalued. The wrist rotation that goes into it. Just a nice out. Question, why would you rotate the rake? Flat.

No, it's rotate the wrist. But to do... But if you rotate the wrist, it's going to turn the handle, which will then in turn the thing, the rake. Rotating it kind of, I mean, I've kind of have this down to the science. I've thought about it a lot. Don't worry. No, we're trying to all around.

So now you have the three of us, literally the three of us, in the studio are trying to figure out if we're... Your wrists are static. So I agree with the fact that you could kind of... Well, that's because we're probably doing it wrong. Well, you do, like, the push, and then you drop the bottom hand. So you kind of, like, push and boom. Oh, I see what you're just saying.

Yeah. Is that really? I don't know if it's a rotation, but... Better words. All right. So you're pretty good at this. You're pretty good at this? I'm pretty good.

I'm not going to say I'm the best, but I'm also not going to say I'm not the best. All right. Well, you're scrappy. You're scrappy looper. I'm a scrappy looper, yeah. So this isn't a combine. You said you weren't really that fast within the raking department, so you spend time. So where are you adding value to the team?

Because combines are based on speed, no? I mean, it's combat is kind of an individual thing, but like you get me out on a loop and I'm a team player. I'm getting other guys traps for them while they're up on the greens reading. We're all read their green. How important is that? Like, you have guys, you have guys that. that suck at that that are bad team guys?

Yeah, I like occasionally. You all get a guy, you know, maybe just you do a little bit more, but everyone's pretty cool. Everyone's usually for the most part. Pretty good about that. What's this other club that you guys that you called into our podcast to basically call them out from being pussies for not accepting your caddy combine challenge? Well, it's our cola.

Shout out to my friend Matt and Peter. Okay. Great guys. But they have not accepted the invitation. we've put it out there you know we're waiting we've we've hit them in their DMs before let me tell you this time let me tell you this you guys get this caddy combine on the books I'll come out and cover it yep oh got you it's actually very close it's literally across the electric yeah no we'll cover it that sounds awesome it's an eight minute drive well okay

we have we have some videos you know that we've sent them of us working you send them like intimidation videos yeah like a human bench press we've We've done it all. You guys are pretty serious about this, huh? Yeah. Is there a reason that Orchard Hills isn't part of the mix? Because they're literally in the same area. I'm pretty sure they don't have loopers.

Okay. It's like nine holes in public courts. I'm just on Google Maps here. Yeah, Ben's obsessed with a map for some reason, which I know that's that important. It's all good. You do you, man. You do you. All right, Jack.

Look, you set this thing up. You send me the details. Yeah. Can I give out one more shout out? Sure. caddy master brian director of actual operations great guy just want to shout him out i love it so you're giving like an oscar speech pretty pretty close all right good those guys are good guys sounds like they're running a good operation they got the best caddy combine squad in the game and what's that

course that we're going to the caddies that we're going to tell to go fuck themselves arcola uh yeah my good friend matt and peter all right at arcolla thanks jack appreciate the call no problem I'll let you in the DM, let you know the details. Thank you guys. Perfect. Caddy Combine. Much of hard-o caddies. There was a point there when he started talking about wrist rotation on the bunkers

where I thought he was messing with us. I still don't agree with the way. He explained it. I don't get it either. And he also, he's trying to start up this beef with our cola. And then every time he says our coal, he's like, my good friend's Matt and Peter worked there. Yeah. It's like, why are you DMing them?

Just talk to Matt and Peter and be like, bring it on, bitches. He's not in the great, he's not in the fight promo game. No. You can't be like, yeah, we've got this vicious rivalry. Those are my good buddies. That's not how it works. That doesn't sell fights. Right.

I want him going over to our cola in the morning and like breaking their rakes in half. That's right. He said they won't accept our challenge. We've been in the DMs. You guys are down the street. Send a message. Ben found out right next to each other. There's four courses.

Maybe get Orchard Hills involved. Also, Paramus Golf courses right there. I guess they don't have caddies. Oh, I hit the wrong button. RJ, what's up, man? It's Riggs. We've had a bazillion caddies on, and we've still got a bunch more to get to, so we're giving you about 60 to 90 seconds.

All right. What's going on? I'm a caddy from the northwest suburbs of Chicago, and I started when I was 14, so in love with it. It was just great to be out on the course. It's really what gave me the golf bug. But I was actually able to be an Evan Scholar, which is a full ride in tuition and housing scholarship for being a golf caddy.

And so I live in a house here at the University of Kansas with 30 other guys and girls who are caddies. And it's just amazing. It's like a household of people who just all have the golf bug. So I remember this email. You like Caddian basically got you, like you said, like a scholarship and changed your whole life. Yeah, absolutely.

So this has been going on for quite a number of years. Chick Evans is the person that actually started it. and he was a great amateur golfer, and to preserve his amateur golf status, he would take his earnings from winning tournaments and put it into a fund, and he sent two local caddies from the club that he played at to Northwestern on a full-ride scholarship,

and that's where it just started. They kept growing and growing, and now we're at the point where in the next year, we're going to have 1,000 current Evan scholars at 18 different universities. That's awesome. That's amazing. by the way that's awesome yeah thank you so much that's really cool so what can people do to like get

involved to try to get on the same track that you got on uh first and foremost be caddying and then after that it's really yeah uh get involved caddying stick with it because obviously like it's a tough job sometimes because you know a lot of places you're sitting around waiting in the mornings and when you're first starting out you might sit all day and not go out and And it's frustrating, it's annoying, but the more you stick with it, then you can build relationships with people who tend to have influence and have scholarships. And then the next thing is just keep on it in high school because that's the next most important part is your grades. I love it. Well, you said, like you said, read through your email.

It was very clear you talked about how Cadium was the coolest job you've ever had, how many people you met all the times that you spent outside, obviously, like in beautiful places and whatnot. and then led to the scholarship and all that. So Caddian, very legitimate. Yeah, it's an amazing summer job. It's awesome. All right, RJ. We appreciate the call, man. Yeah, thank you guys for having me on.

You got it. Keep studying. Study hard. Do well in school. Keep cutting. I learned something from RJ there. What do you learn? We all learn a valuable lesson.

People ask us all the time, how do you get a job at this place, partial sports. And we go through this whole thing about how to do, what to do. R.J said, How do you get involved with this program? You just got to be a caddy.

You just got to be a blogger. If you want to get a dog blogging, be a blogger. If you want to get a job of caddian, start caddian. You want to be a football player? Start playing football. It's that simple. The amount of people lurch that send us emails, hey, I'd be a great blogger.

I'm a really good podcast guy, I think. I'm really funny. Let me know if you want to hire me. Right. Look, if you want to be a great blogger, I also appreciate the close. Blog. Yeah.

What did you say? I appreciate the close. Just let me know what you do. bank. Oh, yeah. Great. Yeah, it is. It is. Like, we're going to see them and be like, get this, get this guy on the payroll. You did that all the time. They go, here's my number. Hit me up. RJ, what are you talking about? You asked him how to get involved in this cadding system. RJ said, be a catty. He goes, well, first and foremost, be a catty.

That message. It's obvious, but weirdly great advice. No, I dug that message. That was a great message. If you want to do this, do it. Start doing it. This is a call I'm pretty excited for him. Tyler, Sand Valley. What's up? up. Hey guys, what's going on? I just startled you didn't I. You probably been on hold for a while. Yeah, a little bit, but just had it on speaker and doing some other stuff and waiting for you guys to answer. So I've never been to San Valley. I've heard unbelievably, unbelievably good things. I love the architects. We had David McClay Kid on a couple weeks ago. So San Valley is one of my, it's, we had a Pinehurst guy on earlier.

So I would say Sand Valley and Pinehurst are like my two must-hit destinations this year that I've never been to, so I'm pumped to talk to you about San Valley. Well, all right, the unfortunate part about that is San Valley is coming up this summer for me. It's going to be my first season out there. But I chatty at Aaron Hills two summers ago and worked out in Kiowa, Bay Hill. So those are the past courses, and San Valley is just the next one coming. So how did you get involved in San Valley? How does a guy like you, it sounds like you jump around a lot, decide where to go, you know, loop? Definitely.

Well, wintertime, you got to go to Florida. It's there or Arizona, California. That's just science. So I used to caddy in Maryland back in high school at Woodmont, and the director of golf there sent me to his brother at Bay Hill, who's a director of golf there. So that's how that worked out. And then a bunch of those guys there in the wintertime head up to Aaron Hills, and I just jumped on their back. one over there. How awesome is Aaron Hills?

Aaron Hills is probably my number one course I've ever been to. Torrey Pines, actually, might be number one. But I got, I mean, Aaron Hills is hardest cadding course probably ever. Have you played Aaron Hills? I have it, but why is it such a hard caddying course? So every T-box is up about 30 feet, and there's probably no flat walking part of the entire golf course and it's about a six mile walk and your average course is about four and a half so it's brutal my quads hurt just like you'd say in that yeah we have like specialized shoes we all

wear as caddies just because our feet hurt so much and uh it's it's brutal but i mean it's good there's only so many kinds of shoes tell us about these shoes what are they hookahs what are they yeah yeah those are them what's a hawk what i've got a bad bad what the fuck just happened lurch I know these things. Haka, what? Dude, the sole of these things is like three inches. Literally, it's the big of soul. No joke.

So there's no ability to actually have any agility if you're wearing these shoes, because you'll simply just fall over. They're almost like stilts. But if you're walking in a straight line, they're insanely comfortable. Interesting. Yes. What a guess. So you wear a good way.

Yeah, I know. Well, honestly, when you're describing your shoe, like, there's really only one that was you. If you Google these things, they are horrible to look at. Horrible. They are terrible. I mean, it's disgusting and putting them on my teeth. I just can't believe I wear them in public. But they get the job done.

Bones rocks him. Oh, he does? Yes. Interesting. Wow. That's crazy town. I guess I never really, I never realized. If you want to, like, if you think you're yes.

I mean, if you think you're going to pivot. Those are the ugliest shoes I've ever seen. Like, if you pivot, you have to, like, think through, like, okay, this is going to take me two or three steps to turn left. That's exactly it Tyler your whole squad You guys all have these haka shoes I mean It was a trend

I would say like our first year When I was at Aaron Hills You could tell like maybe 10 people started with him And then towards midseason It was like 80% was wearing him I mean it was everyone Because it's brutal I mean that walk is

It's really something How's that golf course Is it really hard? Yeah, they didn't make it seem that hard during the U.S. Open, but when I was out there, I never saw an eagle on the 18th hole. Justin Thomas when he was out there. That was the most unbelievable shot ever seen on the 18th hole. But, you know, Kevin, not, his little story that you guys did, I think this week, right?

Yes, sir. With cutting the grass back and everything, man, they had like 200 people, I want to say, maybe more cutting that grass back the day before U.S. Open, it was insane. That's crazy. So you were caddying there at the time? I was catting there the year before that, but just all the caddies were on deck trying to clear that. Like I could see all the videos from them that they're making Snapchat and stuff of just them trying to clear out that pescue. Oh, yeah, that's crazy because obviously, you know all those guys really well, so you've got a pretty good behind the scenes look from all them.

Definitely. It was awesome. That's pretty sweet. What about Keough? We had a caddy on earlier who was talking about Keough and how hard that place is. Yeah, so there's two parts of Keough. You've got two private courses and then you got Ocean Course. So Ocean Course, there's about 100 caddies,

and then I actually worked at two private courses to Seek and River, which are 100 times easier, I would say. They're still hard. But, man, when you count ocean and then when it's windy, that course is definitely one of the hardest. What's, you got like a craziest caddy story from your career? I got a pretty good one. There's a lot of irony in it.

And, yeah, I got, I got one. So when I was 21, this had been a few years ago. I don't like you weren't going to tell it. I really got one. I thought you were just going to answer yes. I really thought you have one. I got a hell of the one. Thanks for having me on the other show.

So, 20. 21 years old, I'm cadding in Keel and I'm catting for a lady. We'll just call her Susan right now. But it was four ladies and four caddies are out there walking, a caddy for these people, a good amount. And so the lady I'm catting for, Susan, is like, I'm going to tell you guys my worst caddy story ever, like worst experience. So she starts off like, yeah, I had this like 14, 15 year old kid

back when I was playing a little event, and he didn't know what he was doing out there. I mean, he was walking in front of us while we're hitting, talking while we're hitting. He's rolling balls back to us after he cleans him on the green. She's like, at one point, I'm yelling at this kid. Like, just get out of the way. And she's like, this kid was terrible. And I had to literally yell at him.

It was just a terrible experience. And she's telling me this story about how she's yelling at this little 14, 15 year old kid. And I'm just thinking like, man, this is terrible. Because back when I was 14, 15 cadding, I had a lady yelling at me about the same type of, like, situation. Like, I remember I rolled a ball back to this lady, and she yelled at me. Devastating, devastating to start out your caddy career like that, right? Well, I asked her, I was like, you know, where was this event? And she was like, oh, yeah, it's for David Falk, Michael Jordan's agent.

And so was at Woodmont Country Club. and I was like, no way. Like, I caddied at Woodmont Country Club back when I was 14 and 15, and basically it threw a high school. And then I was like, you know, when was this event? And she was like, oh, six, seven years ago. Well, there was only one 14, 15-year-old caddy back six, seven years ago at that golf course, Woodmark. It was you.

It was me. No way. I swear. I was the only one. And that lady was a lady who yelled at me on my, like, first, second loop ever. Oh, so did you admit it or do you just listen to her story? Oh, 100%. No, I gave it to her.

I was like, that was me. Oh, yeah. I mean, you got to make your tips, you know. She took me pretty well that day after the nightmare she had with me the first time. I mean, I got a lot better after six, seven years, you know. That is absolutely wild. Jesus, that's set. You're right.

There's some irony. there. It was crazy. That was, uh, you don't get that often where you remember, you know, a player after, you know, looping four or five hundred times, but that one's stuck in my head. That's crazy. Well, what a story. We appreciate you share. No problem, guys. So you just, getting all the information from all these local caddies getting some good stories. Oh, yeah. We've probably had 15 or 20 on or so already. We're just kind of powering through talking to different people, getting different stories. It's been great. Love it.

Love it, guys. All right, Tyler, we appreciate the call. If we come out to San Valley this year, which I think we're going to, we better get you on the bag. Yeah, after me, I'll definitely be out there. That'd be awesome. But after a couple months, because, you know, you haven't been there yet. Oh, I'll figure it out first time I'm out there.

I like that. It's confident. And I got all the reads for you. I'll have them all set up. Perfect. Thanks, man. No problem. You guys have a good night.

Thanks, enjoy. Yeah, wow, that one really came full circle. Some big-time twists in these stories that we get told. The Cankles one, big-time reveal. Because I'll say, when he was starting that story out, and he just kept saying, like, oh, she was yelling at me. It was so much. I was like, where is this going?

Yeah, like, people get yelled at all the time. All the time. Correct. I thought that, too. But you're right. We're going to have to start keeping our heads on a swivel for the twists. Right. This has been a real twisty-type show.

I mean, the Cancels, the mom one hit us like a ton of bricks. Buckets. What's up, man? Buckets is a hell of a catty name. Great. Oh, thank you. Yeah, just about a 15. 15 years and had, you know, stuck with that since my first year caddian.

15 years, caddian? Yeah, yeah. Not full-time, but, you know, basically through college and then, or started in high school through college. And then, you know, now I just do a part-time on the weekends, you know, because I got the full-time, you know, cute monkey job. Where did you get the name Buckets? At the Caddy Shack, I'm smart off, like, my first year of Caddian. I was, like, 14 years old. and smart off to one of the older, more senior caddies,

about a 6-4-280 black dude. And he made me, he's like, every time he saw him, he's like, bucket, go get the buckets. And then it just stuck. Gotcha. So you've been buckets ever since. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your craziest story from caddian?

So much. But my personal one, It was probably when I came for Barack Obama when he played for the first time in Olympia. Wow. How was he? He wasn't that bad. He was a, you know, a lefty guy, and this was the summer before he was elected for his first term. It was like Father's Day.

I remember just being at the shack and, like, God, I had to be like 95 degrees out in humid. And the assistant came master was like, hey, I need you to come up. You know, we're carrying for somebody special. special today. She's like, I need you to stick around a little bit. So you go and we play, he probably played and him and three other guys played in like five hours for the round. And then, but it was just like there's secret service everywhere. There's secret service in front of us on the hole in front of us, whole behind us, and on the whole, like there was at least a crew of like 20 guys and just carts, you know, and then, but at the end of the whole round and everything.

At this point, he had announced he was running for president at the time. Oh, yeah. Like, he was, like, during the campaign and everything. I think he was actually playing with his campaign manager. Gotcha. And then two of his other, not sure if they were relatives or whatnot. But, yeah, at the end of the round, I mean, he probably shot, I'd say he about shot, like, 95. Okay.

I bet. And the championship course. What was he, what was he like? Was he, like, funny? Was he, like, chit-chatti with you? He wasn't really, like, chit-chaddy. I mean, he was super nice and, you know, like, right-of-we. way, you know, I introduced myself his bucket.

I mean, he laughed at that. He's like, oh, you know, which is that name, you know? And, you know, it's looking at him the story and, you know, it just, uh, he just went off from there. But he was always on his blackberry. That's what the one thing I noticed. He was just on his phone, you know, the entire time. You know, I never seen it.

You know, it was just always like, he'd finish up first or something like that. And he'd just be off the side of the green, just, you know, not even watching the other guys, HUD or finish out or anything. I will say, probably pretty understanding. It doesn't feel so shocking. Yeah. Yeah. I would say usually that's kind of annoying, but when you're about to be the president of the United States, I kind of like to see that.

Yep. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely. And then, yeah, everything was going great. End of the round. You know, it was a four, they were in carts, so we were in his four-cadding. And it was me and, like, the assistant caddymaster, they were, they were cadding for them. At the end of the round, they didn't even tip us.

Although, that was the craziest part about it, I thought. You know, it was like, you know, you're about to be president of the United States. didn't even throw us anything. So we end up getting compensated through the club, but still, it was just like, I mean, it was quite an experience. I mean, it wasn't, you know, wasn't too mad about it, but.

They didn't tip anything? No, $0.0.00. We got a no-tip and pippin situation. A little overstepping. You familiar with no tip and pippin? Yeah, he plays out there quite a bit. We got a. Same course.

Yeah, we got a, we got, um, he's played out there a couple times. my buddy, Cohn, skated for him. He's got, like, a jersey signed by him and whatnot, but a former owner of the Bowls, one of them is a member out there, and he brings him out pretty much once a summer.

Yes, I don't know if we said it, but you're out at Olympia Fields, and I think our first caller was from Olympia Fields, and he dropped the no-tip-and-pippin thing, and I'd never heard that before. It's one of the best nicknames ever. I mean, bad, but. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, who, do you know, Remember the guy's name? Was it like Ryan? It was Ed. Oh, Ed. Okay. Yeah, he, um, he's a, do you say he was assistant catamaster right now? Yep.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I know, Ed. He's good, good guy. Yeah, Ed was great. Yep. Yeah, so then, um, yeah. Other than that, uh, let's see.

We're, uh, what else you need to know? Oh, like, oh, yeah, Olympia. You want me to tell you more about that? I mean, I know. I know. I like the story. Yeah, Obama's story is fantastic. Yeah, very good.

Any background check for you? I mean, all these people are around them, did they check you out at all? Or are you just happily carrying around his putter for the whole round? No, I mean, yeah, that was another surprising thing. They didn't really check me personally or anything like that. I mean, I was just in, you know, my polo and khaki shorts and, you know, my head, my towel and hat. That's pretty much it. And you rock a bucket hat, or is that just strictly came from a huge caddy that gave you the name?

No, yeah, I do. I do wear that, you know, a bucket hat or a visor. I'll switch it up. Okay. Yeah. Very nice. That makes a lot more sense. Now we're connecting the dots.

All right, buckets. We appreciate the call. That's a great story. A little Obama action. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. I can't wait to hear the podcast.

When is it going to go up? Oh, you'll be live tomorrow morning, baby. Awesome. All right, guys. Thanks for calling in. Thanks for waiting on hold. We appreciate it. Yeah.

Have a good one. See you, man. You too. You too. Enjoy it. that's pretty cool to be able to say that. Oh, yeah, very cool. Especially because you spend, I mean, that's a good five hours you spend with the guy.

Yeah, you can learn a lot about it somebody. Yeah. Watching them how they act. Not surprised the guy's on his phone. No, that makes 100%. I didn't realize it was the same golf course. So when he was like, yeah, it is the no-tip-and-pins situation. I forgot.

This guy didn't introduce himself. Yeah. We didn't go through that. Yeah, I forgot to drop out. Me and Lurtz were about to come out of our gym. You guys jumped up when you said that. I was kind of like, it was leading questions because I knew they was going to know the same circles and all that.

So he knew Ed. That was our guy, Ed, for earlier. I like that they know each other. Yeah. I feel like the caddy crew. Yeah. I mean, same club. You got to expect that, no?

Why are you crushing my dreams? I like... Well, hold on. What's your dream to, like, work apart? I like that all the caddies, like, everybody, all the caddies know each other. Doesn't matter if it's the same club, right? Oh, okay. It's just a code.

Gotcha. Like, a nice dream. Yeah. Let's go to, uh, Tyler. What's going on? Hey, how's going, Ray? It's going great. How are you, man?

Good, you? Good. How are you? I'm good. Should you do it again? I thought we were going to. Where are you caddying out of? One One Way, Sixth Country Club in Rumford, Rhode Island. Heard that place is great. Never been out there.

Oh, that's awesome, dude. I've been... So all the pros do all the amateur. They have the Northeast Amateur out of there. So all the pros start there, pretty much. That's right. So you're from around there? Yeah. You've been caddian there? Yeah, my crew.

I've been caddian there since I was like 13 years old and 20 now, so I can't there for a little bit. What's your craziest story from caddian? So I had a round where a guy, it was this member guest tournament, he scored when we got two holes in one in the same hole, two days in a row. What? Yeah, he basically, same club, same. hole hit the back in the the 12 hole was like a 200 yard part 3 uphill with a huge bunker in front he basically hit the back of the hole and the green slopes down towards the front he said he hit it heard saw it hit hit the back rolled down towards the front he's

like I think that went in we're like I don't know maybe he starts sprinting up the hill towards this he's like 50 something years old he just takes off and we see him go throw his arms up in the air and he's jumping around, jumping around. This is the first time he did it. Second day, I was in the group ahead of him. We see him on the tee, and we hear him from the 13th green, which is like a whole hole in front of him.

He's screaming and yelling like, there's no fucking way. He actually did that again. Turns out, yep, did it again, got two holes in a row, holes in one. That's insane. I mean, I've never heard of that. Two holes in one on the same hole. That's a deep hole.

You're looking at it right now, Ben? Yeah, it was just a 195 range. Lurch just pulled it up. You're right. It's a very intimidating little part three because you can't even really see the green. Oh, yeah. That's a big. It's fucking crazy.

You can throw balls from the back and it'll roll all way up to the front or off the green. Jesus. That's crazy. That's unbelievable. Two holes in one in the same freaking hole. Was he a low capper? What was his index? He's like a 15-hand.

He's even being higher than that. That's just wildly annoying. That's frustrating. I'll never have one. I know I'll never have one. I haven't had one either on that hole. How many have you seen in total as a caddy? On that hole?

I think the only time was those two, which is crazy. Wait, did you say you've never had one either on that hole? I'd never had one ever, but. On that hole specifically? But also not on that hole either. Yeah, not specifically on any hole, but no. Just clarify. Those are the only two you've ever seen.

It was the same guy back-to-back days. Yep, pretty much. And the prize wasn't even in a car or anything. It was just flat-screen TVs. He thought he was going to get two, but they were going one. We just bought a flat-screen TV for our room. They're crazy cheap. Oh, yeah, back then.

Yeah, I guess back then seven years ago. They're a lot more expensive. That's good point. Yeah. All right, Tyler. We appreciate the call, man. That's pretty wild, too. I've never heard anything like that before.

back-to-back hole-on-ones on the same hole. Oh, yeah, they're pretty crazy. Well, keep up to good work out there, and hopefully if I get out there, I would love to play that track. I've heard it's always, because we do a Newport trip. We've done a Newport trip for years now, and every time I'm in the area. I'm at the Coast Guard Station in Newport, too. You're what? I'm at the Coast Guard station, Newport, too.

Hell yeah. Thank you for your service. Oh, thank you very much. We appreciate that. Yeah, I've been recommended that place many times. Like I said, every time we go to the Newport area, so I got to the Rhode Island area, so we got to sneak out there. Yeah, I'm sure you could. Oh, I can't.

He just threatened you. We'll hit you up if we do. All right, cool. Sounds good. Say, man. Thanks for calling him. No problem. Anthony, you there, pal?

Yes. What's going on? It's Riggs. Wonderful. How are you doing? I'm doing great. So where are you caddying out of? I'd be a cancer club in Maryland, Massachusetts.

That's on the water, huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So have you, Lurch, have you ever been out there? I have not, but my dad just played out there a member guest. Loved it? Loved it. He said it was absolutely beautiful.

So I'm dying to get out there. I've only heard the best thing. So, Anthony, here's my best story I have about Catanzet, is that at my old apartment, when I lived in South Boston, we used to, we had a big apartment with, like, it was just set up perfectly to have a bunch of people over, and we were out of school, so we used to have people over all time. and people would leave shit naturally and somebody left a rain jacket at my apartment with the Catanzet seashell logo on it

and people would ask me all time they'd be like wow where's that from be at Catanzet and they'd be like that place is awesome when'd you play out there never because one one green can get flooded in high tide right or floods around it it's all sand I believe is that correct or no

it doesn't really get flooded that has to be like hurricane level storm for a bit of a bit of a dumb comment Well, no, I mean, see the screen over here? Yeah, we're looking at the drone, but again, that doesn't really play on a podcast. We're like looking at the, looking at a picture. It's just the thought. So anyways, Anthony, how long you've been caddian out at Catanzet?

Eight years. Wow. What's your craziest story from Caddian? Probably the craziest thing I've seen is, obviously, you know, I just mentioned that island-type green would sand all around. I had a guy. who he wasn't even a member he was a guest he decided he had to you know he take a leak as you do on golf courses but instead of waiting to get to the woods or anything he decided i just i'll just

put my dick out on the screen right here and just piss into the sands in front of all the groups around us which was just absolutely disgusting i think that's illegal i i believe so too i mean there's a group on the next tee of just little old ladies and fortunately they didn't turn around and see him, but otherwise, he was not invited back. He didn't even try to hide it? No, not really. So I assume he's a guess. So did the member speak up or did anyone speak up or what do they know?

I don't know what happens there. Oh, yeah. The member was. Live it. Quite a, quite a sick. Yeah. Man, that's just, you always, okay, here's, you always, you always at least make an effort to make it look like you're trying to hide it.

Yep. All right. I mean, you wait 30 seconds. There's trees or whatever. a bush you can go and now he's like i like the view here this guy's an asshole sounds like an asshole ben you lurch you had the nicest piss of your life was it cabman nicest piss my life but even then you kind of walk off to the side of the cliff walk off i peed over a cliff i mean it wasn't even close to the golf course no it was lovely it was

probably the most gorgeous piss i've ever had yeah golf court piece can be great no they're great but again you can't just put your dick out in the middle of the sandbar yeah there's a time and a place for everything what's the best hole out there 16. 16. It's beautiful par four. It's just, yeah. With new restoration, you can see

pretty much all the greens, beautiful view of Cape God special. I like that. All right, man. We really appreciate the call. Thanks for having me. See, Anthony. Keep up to good work out there.

Thanks for clarifying that old wives tale. I heard that it floods around the grain. You thought that's where a story was going to go, didn't you? I did. that I was like, come on, tell me. He corrected me. And then, like, there was an amazing hole where it was a wild storm in the wind that he talked about. And there was waves coming around the green.

You got so excited. Your ears perked up. Like, oh, I'm going to be vindicated. This is a hit. You made me think about something. What's the most beautiful piss I've ever taken? Like, you know what I mean? Yes.

Like, where I, the only thing I can think of, I went to Hawaii when I, right after I graduated high school. And I think I took a piss on the beach out there at night. And that was, that has to be it. But it's just something that people can think about. What's the most beautiful piss you've ever taken? No, I know mine was a cabot. Yeah. I would say mine.

I was overhanging the cliff and off I went. I think I took like the same piss. Yeah. You guys got the same. Gotta be my answer. Okay. Something for the people don't think about. Yeah, no, it is.

I would guess a lot of people. Not pictures. Yeah, I guess a lot of people would be going to their golf experiences that are listening to the show. You're probably right. That'd be my guess. Yeah, because otherwise, pissing just like out in the open is, like I said, earlier, illegal. Yeah, it's a very rare. You really don't do it unless you're into golf or like hunting and fishing.

Something for hunting and fishing listeners to think about. Yes. Most beautiful piss. Let's say prior to when I really started getting into golf, my nicest piss would have probably been on a fishing trip in Alaska. My dad and my brother. Right. Yeah. Because most 99% of pisses are just pretty standard.

We're just in a bathroom. Well, yeah. That's what I mean. I mean, it's pretty rare that if there's a bathroom close by, you're being outside. But something to think about. Something to think about. That's something to think about. Yep.

Last one. All right. We got Jay. Jay, what's up? Are you there? What an uneventful close. Jay, are you there? Please.

Well, I heard something. Jay, are you there? Feel bad. I know he's probably been on the line for a while. He's going to get his chance. Last call is dead? So this is Jay for Weeburn. Oh, Weeburn.

Come on. Yes. Jay. What's up? I'm doing. How are you doing? How are you guys doing? I'm doing good.

How are you guys? Good. We've probably had, I don't know, I'm going to guess a couple dozen of these so far, and you're our last guy on the list, so sorry you made you wait. No problem. You really came through the last second there. We're just getting ready to hang up on you. Oh, my God.

I had you guys, like, in the background on my phone. I was watching the video, and all of a sudden I hear Jerry from Weber. I'm like, holy shit, I'm on. So I got a high. got here as soon as I could. Holy shit, I'm on. That's great. Weeburn, Lurge, it sounds like you know something about Weeburn. Oh, yeah.

I've never been out there. Well, believe they have a bunch of paddle courts out there? Yes, we do. The paddle courts are, like, right next to the paddoll. Right next to the catty track, basically. So when I was living in Boston with Riggs here, I joined a paddle league out of the Brookline paddle club. Sounds much fancier than it is, but great guys.

Like a white collar situation. But it's not. It's out of like the back of the college. This is a golf podcast. Right. So. But anyways, went to Weeburn. The course looks lovely. Never got on it, but played some paddle very close by, as you said.

Nice. Webern. That's the correct answer to what I just told. What was he supposed to do with all that? Doesn't care, which I appreciate. Just through you a courtesy nice, a nice, but the nice, the tone drifts off. So it's just an F you at the back.

It starts with nice, and then an FU. I mean, what else is he supposed to say? No, that's the right answer. Appreciate that. All right. Thank you. So, Jay, how long have you been caddian out there? I'm in Canyon there for about three seasons, so I'm pretty new to it, but you start

to win the end and out kind of quickly. How important is it, like, your vision to see in golf balls? How important is it? Yeah, like, it's pretty fucking important. That's actually my story. That's actually my story today. Jay's electric. It's unbelievable.

What a wonderful clothes. Hey, Reg. It's pretty fucking important that I can use my eyeballs, huh? Oh, good story. Nice. That's really impressive. How important is it? You have this skill.

Pretty fucking important. Pretty fucking important, buddy. Is there a lot of firing going on? Like, are you seeing, like, turnover in, like, the first two months? Like, oh, this guy doesn't have it. Is that a thing? Is that a real thing? You know.

Or is that just... I mean, it depends really because some years... So, like, for example, last year, we have... like 10 maybe new caddies and you could tell by just like looking at them or like watching them on the course that like they don't look into it or like they don't really they're just there to be there you know what I mean yeah definitely so you could let me like you really got a you really got to like tagging to like stick with it and like the and even the boss see like some of the kids you still aren't getting it like midway through the summer been here for a while

still and getting some of the concepts so I mean firing happy. but it doesn't happen that. It doesn't not happen that often. Thank you. Yeah. Nice. No, that makes sense. It makes a lot of sense.

Nice. Nice. All right, Jay. Well, we appreciate the call, man. All right. Thank you guys for taking me. Yeah, you got it. And this season, keep out, you know, keep up the good work,

try to see the golf balls. That's huge. Yeah, it's pretty fucking important. Pretty fucking important. Strong close. Have a good night, Jay. Thanks for calling. Strong close.

Yeah, strong close. Hey, you two, guys. All right, boys, that's it. The call sheet is clear. We made a commitment. We made a promise that we are going to, we are going to take all of the people who I responded to, who called in. We were going to take all of them.

We got hundreds of emails. You wouldn't believe how many emails we got. Yeah. And then it was very tricky going through them and deciding who deserves to have the calling number and who doesn't. Right. So it was kind of random. I just did it really randomly. I tried, I did try to find, like, courses that I thought were interesting.

Kioa for you, obviously we know Dylan and all that. I have bummed. We didn't hear from our guy Tricky Nick at Stream Song. Yeah, what happened to him? I was messaging earlier. He kind of said, I think he was going to something tonight, but he was planning on calling it. He tweeted out that he was calling in. Luckily, we'll do this again.

We'll get Tricky Nick on. Yep. But if you ever go out to Stream Song, you've got to request Nick. Cricky Nick. He's the man. He's the absolute man. But outside of that, I don't know how many, anybody got any idea? How many caddies we talked to?

16. 16. Oh. Wow. That's pretty good. That is pretty good. I will say those first couple, too, we got a lot of stories out of. Yeah.

So those kind of went. But 16 local caddies. We're doing our part. We are. You know, it's been a tough week for caddies in terms of headlines. It's been a very tough week for you. You know what I mean? There's no doubt about that.

It's good of us to do. It almost feels like, not charity, but maybe. Community service. It's just the right thing to do. The right thing to do. That's the better way. Yeah. That's the right thing to do.

It's the right thing to do. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll be back on Tuesday. two shows a week, as everybody knows, from here on out. Thanks for doing this. Thanks for listening along with all these caddies, all these fantastic stories we got from your local caddies. Just your common men out there trying to make a buck grind in and working.

They got crazy shoes that they're wearing where you can't even pivot it sounds like. No, those are good shoes, though. Apparently, they're good shoes. You got back issues. Just guess that right out of the air. There's only so many shoes that, like, you know, these are special shoes. And as a bad back guy, I was like, it's got to be these shoes. That was a wild moment.

I mean, you're literally, you might be two to three. Haka shoes. Yeah. Haka or hookah or something like that. Hocke. H-O-K-A-S. Yeah. I mean, the soul was as thick as the rest of the shoe.

Yes, that's, it's equal proportions. Soul and then kind of the slip that you put your foot in. Unbelievable stuff. Tiger at Riviera this weekend, enjoy that. A very good field there. That tournament became very official. It got like an invitational status going forward, so it's going to be even bigger of an event. But enjoy Tiger at Riviera.

We'll be back on Tuesday. Hit it hard. Hit it hard. Hit it hard.